arma3_config

[hot pine]

then, you can define i.e.

    class Armor_Sail
    {
        class Default // when hit by ammunition without warHeadName
        {
            hit[] = {1};
            speed[] = {1};
        };
        class Chains
        {
            hit[] = {2}; // do twice as much damage
            speed[] = {0.9}; // reduce speed of chains - they would probably loose some motion after hiting canvas
        };
        class Shell
        {
            hit[] = {0.1};
            speed[] = {1};
        };
    };

you can also try increasing indirectHit on chains (with even close to null range) & tweak explosion shielding on sails so they are more vulnerable to it

[livid heath]

Superb

[simple trout]

@hot pine Thanks! Good information!

[undone quiver]

Disabling Optics In option in a vehicle?

Tried just OpticsIn{}; But you can still swap cameras which give you a wierd locked blank version.

[livid heath]

you can just set it up with empty opticsmodel, and the same movement and zoom / fov as viewpilot.

[hot pine]

empty empty optics model (like = "") will actually prevent going into optic mode

[undone quiver]

Interesting, is that just kind of how it has always been? I was looking far and wide for something like "HaveOptics = 0;" or something like that.

[hot pine]

        class PilotCamera //targeting pod
        {
            class OpticsIn
            {
                class Wide
                {
                    opticsDisplayName    = "WFOV";
                    initAngleX=0; minAngleX=0; maxAngleX=0;
                    initAngleY=0; minAngleY=0; maxAngleY=0;
                    initFov                = A3_FOV_DEG(10);
                    minFov                = A3_FOV_DEG(60);
                    maxFov                = A3_FOV_DEG(60);
                    directionStabilized    = 1;
                    visionMode[]        = {"Normal"};
                    //gunneropticsmodel="rhsafrf\addons\rhs_a2port_air\mi35\rhs_sight_9s475_x3";
                    gunneropticsmodel = "";
                    opticsPPEffects[]=
                    {
                        "OpticsCHAbera2",
                        "OpticsBlur2"
                    };
                };
            };```

in above example, pilot camera is not accessible with right mouse button but you can still manipulate with it

[strange egret]

I've noticed that i got a problem with my custom handweapons - the weapon resting indicators in the UI (left of stance) almost never show up. Like if you walk up to a window ledge you should get a little hollow cube indicating that it's rested. On all my custom handweapons this just never appears for some reason, only the pivot deployment option is shown
Why could that be? deployedPivot point is located slightly forward of the magazine and below (red point) https://abload.de/img/obbipodoeeg7.jpg

[livid heath]

yeah i didn't mean use "" for empty, i meant use the actual empty modeloptics model entry

just being lazy and not looking it up

modelOptics = "\A3\Weapons_F\empty";

[hot pine]

empty "" disables optics mode without having to make some fake turret and I think that is what Sabre One wanted to do

[buoyant mason]

Being able to change camera position when inside first person with config entry ?

[livid heath]

ah ok thanks. that's good to know.

is there a way to disable vests / uniforms for certain classes of player model?

like cfgidentities can restrict random accessories to certain arrays

would be great to be able to limit vests and uniforms to types of soldier base model

(thinking of adding vietnamese females)

obviously a vietnamese female would be slender, and so wearing a normal military vest would look completely wrong on her.

could be a fairly simple feature to add in the background, maybe?

maybe even an extension to cfgidentities array?

could have default settings in base classes, then allow modders to customise this for unit types.

i suppose that doesn't affect the actual pikcing up action though, only for example a randomisation function...

so we'd need something that set validity to vest, uniform, pack etc based on soldier model

this feature could unlock a whole new world of possibilities in arma.

[stoic lily]

need to script that

but should not be too hard

[outer sapphire]

i'm packing my addon with that config.cpp ```SQF
class CfgPatches {
class TeR {
author = "Terrano";
requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Ui_F"};
units[] = {};
weapons[] = {};
};
};

class CfgFunctions {
class TeR {
class init {
file = "TeR\init.sqf";
preinit = 1;
};
class script {
class RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup {
file = "TeR\RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup.sqf";
};
};
};
};

class RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup {
onLoad = "['onLoad',_this] call TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup";
};

but TeR_fnc_init is not start 😦

[grand zinc]

is TeR_fnc_init defined? did you check via debug console?

Can you call it manually via dbg console?

[outer sapphire]

@grand zinc yes, just checked

init not defined

but TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup defined

[grand zinc]

Then it can't compile your scriot

maybe a syntax error

Also.. your script class has a subclass with the function

but you are not doing that for init?

[outer sapphire]

thank you!

no errors log clear

[outer sapphire]

but still not working TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayer 😦 i don't get errors

added diag_log "TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayer started"; to script but is just don't launch script xD

[grand zinc]

What now? you tried to add preInit=1 to your Rsc func?

[outer sapphire]

no, i will try

bohemia addons loading first, as i understand

then custom addons

[grand zinc]

yes

[outer sapphire]

hm, added preinit=1 but still script is not starts

[grand zinc]

but the variable is defined and you can call it manually via debug console? It just for whatever reason won't preInit?

[outer sapphire]

Started script in editor. It works. No errors

Is start when menu opened and change ui controls (positions) and add new

maybe is mission specific

possible to start only when mission started

i will try add this to pre-init sqf 0 spawn { waitUntil {!((findDisplay 70) isEqualTo displayNull)}; [findDisplay 70] spawn TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayer; };

not working

[sullen fulcrum]

This is not how you check for null display

You use isNull

Or !isNull

[outer sapphire]

0 spawn {
waitUntil {!isNull (findDisplay 70)};
[findDisplay 70] spawn TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayer;
};

[outer sapphire]

hm.. i think i understand why is not working

when i use in mission sqf createDialog "RscDisplayMultiplayer";

but in when is needed - function is not work

or is can't find (findDisplay 70) or for use waitUntil i need to start mission

[outer sapphire]

changed code to ```sqf

onEachFrame {
if (!isNull (findDisplay 70)) then {
onEachFrame {};
[] spawn TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayer;
diag_log "Loaded this shit";
};
};

and still not works

something wrong with that game

[stoic lily]

requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Ui_F"};

is probably not enough

class RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup {
onLoad = "['onLoad',_this] call TeR_fnc_RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup";
};

use config browser to verify if this is actually defined

most likely your change here gets overwritten again by other A3 configs

[outer sapphire]

@stoic lily as i understand - my addon loading after requiredAddons[]

[stoic lily]

use instead: "A3_Data_F_Sams_Loadorder"

[outer sapphire]

somenhing like this? ```sqf
requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Data_F_Sams_Loadorder"};

as i understand that addon loading last

[wise oasis]

hey anyone here happen to know where to find documentation on adding a built-in IR strobe to helmets with ACE3? I lost the page a while back and can't find it

[silver aurora]

a few points:

• configSourceAddonList (configFile >> "RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup" ) returns ["A3_Ui_F"] - so requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Ui_F"}; should be sufficient
• class RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup inherits from RscStandardDisplay - that shouldn't be dropped
• there's already an onLoad handler defined in that class - the custom one probably should be added behind or the original one chain loaded or something like that

[agile flame]

guys, who skilled with weapons cfg editing? Need to make own mine without effects and sounds of explosion, need to for mod project, who can help PM me please

[graceful steeple]

So I've been trying to troubleshoot some CfgSounds stuff I've been working on, and in my searching I've noticed that some people define a 4th parameter for the sound[] property, anyone know what that 4th property is?

[graceful steeple]

Nevermind, I found it tucked away in a comment somewhere, it's distance

[outer sapphire]

@silver aurora changed to requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Ui_F"};, but still not launch my script 😦 tryed configSourceAddonList (configFile >> "RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup" ) in mission - i got ["A3_Ui_F","TeR"];

[stoic lily]

so did you verify RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup/onload via config browser or otherwise?

[outer sapphire]

sorry, was afk

tryed start config browser, but is broken

will check arma files

[sullen fulcrum]

Broken config browser? What about utilities config browser? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Utilities

[outer sapphire]

@sullen fulcrum repaired arma, opened config browser in editor

dialog with my parameters

onLoad - my function

but

when i connect to server - lobby is standart xD

and script don't load

that really interesting 😃

[sullen fulcrum]

So you modified SP display maybe instead of MP?

[outer sapphire]

hmm.. i open lobby in host tab

when i changed that script in ui_f.pbo - is change menu parameters

[sullen fulcrum]

Maybe you are modifying wrong one

[outer sapphire]

i will try do changes with config, no script

i think part of scripts works only on mission

where needed timing

something like waitUntil,ctrlCommit etc

[agile flame]

guys, who skilled with weapons cfg editing? Need to make own mine without effects and sounds of explosion, need to for mod project, who can help PM me please

[stoic lily]

@outer sapphire what do you want to do in the first place?

[outer sapphire]

@stoic lily i want hide role selection lnb and player list in lobby

[stoic lily]

1. use skipLobby parameter
2. modify the UI classes

[outer sapphire]

i can't slipLobby, because i need side select

modified UI - for now i got first changes 😃

[stoic lily]

you can make dialog after mission start to select side and assign player to desired side

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Side_relations#Scripted_approach

[outer sapphire]

hm.. i will try that way

@stoic lily thank you!

[stoic lily]

also: https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/160590-disable-briefing-on-persistent-server/?tab=comments#comment-2524434

aka forget about CfgFunctions for now

just execVM your script (with taking stuff from link in mind)

use diag_log in your code at various place to see how far your gets executed if you still have issues

https://github.com/commy2/Arma-3-Scripted-Lobby

[sullen fulcrum]

That forum post is 5 years old

[outer sapphire]

i was speak to commy2, he said - that method have troubles

[outer sapphire]

that why i want change arma menu 😄

[stoic lily]

most things in RV engine are still from OFP demo

[silver aurora]

including some lovely bugs - but I am still sad that there's no 31st of December in leap years ...

[sullen fulcrum]

Hey

My model got an error "Bad file format ( )" when loading up ingame

Anyone have any ideia what it might be?

[hard chasm]

binarise corrupted it, or you're using a dayz SA p3d. check it with eliteness to see what it is.

mind you, if you're using addon breaker to pack your models, keep taking the pills.

[wise tusk]

Are userValues for class MFD local?
edit. they are

[outer sapphire]

@stoic lily thank you a lot!!! It works 😄

joinSilent + skipLobby

[autumn crater]

I'm running into a really odd issue. Whenever I am trying to pack a new model into a PBO it's not loading.

I had an old model, called model A and was updating it to model B.

When I go to pack the model with either Addon Builder or PboProject, the model doesn't load.

I have deleted model A from my computer completely, I have cleared my temp folder, I have made sure all file paths are correct like 150 times. Each time I try to test the new setup, model A is loaded, I have no idea where model A is being loaded from. Does anyone have any ideas?
please tag me if you do

[simple trout]

so how do I create underwear? I know about the whole nakeduniform = blahblahblah but it's not working for me. Anybody with experience can point me in the right direction?

[stoic lily]

@autumn crater check rpt for loaded pbos

[autumn crater]

@stoic lily nothing there. When a friend packs the file, it works 100% correctly. This is without changing anything.

[stoic lily]

no pbos loaded at all? 😄

[autumn crater]

the pbo was deleted

when it was remade, it pulled model A (Which no longer exists and no paths point to- yes I know this sounds absurd, but I've also checked like 9 times, and had other people check and no one else seems to know why this is happening) @stoic lily

[hearty sandal]

👆 Was fixed. there was another version of the same pbo in the addon folder.

[grizzled pier]

@hot pine not trying to drag a conversation back up, but I was recently brought to the attention of the magzineWells, I saw that you were wanting a standard created so that modders from all over don't start creating their own groups. I was wondering A how is it going and B is the only discussion about it here? https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/issues/108 or is their a BI forum post discussing this as well. Thanks

[grizzled pier]

this is looking to add it to the 3CB weapons in the future btw

[hot pine]

so far I think CBA team mostly discussed it. Magazine wells will be most likely also be used by vanilla weapons but due to some magazine proxies related issues (7.62x51 20rnd magazines) it's still not in game and will be most likely postponed for next year @grizzled pier

[grizzled pier]

Cool thanks for that, I just want to be slightly more prepared than I was for when the plyon proxies and all of that came out. Still waiting to release all of our heli's with those installed 😧 I understand you may not be able to say but is there a standard that the vanilla magazines are following say for example caliber_nos of Rounds?

[hot pine]

it's rather type+caliber like
class MX_65x39

[wise tusk]

Can vehicle cannon sound be divided into internal and external?

[hot pine]

you can set very small range for 1st person view firing

there is no campos unfortunately

[grand zinc]

@grizzled pier yeah CBA is the new standard. Just like with JointRails. It's mostly done already. Unless you are missing something

[grizzled pier]

Thanks @grand zinc as I said earlier I was just intrigued as to how the approach for the naming convention of the groups was going. Just want to be able to make the 3CB weapons match and not have the issues of having an L85 with a drum mag appear in game for example.

[grand zinc]

CBA has XL/Drum classes specifically for that

[wise tusk]

Could anyone know a reason why HMD doesnt want to display on copilot?

[hot pine]

try showHMD = 1; in copilot seat if you want so show same HMD as pilot has

or you can define class MFD again in turret cfg to have some dedicated version

[wise tusk]

@hot pine thank you it worked 😃

[undone quiver]

What config option determines if a seat in a aircraft can lock using R and T options with radar?

[hot pine]

Allowtablock @undone quiver https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/A3_Targeting_config_reference#allowTabLock

[undone quiver]

Doesn't seem to work

Radar/sensors are fine, just can't seem to lock onto active pings anymore.

mmm, so the Y-32 which is what most my config is based off of, can't seem to lock onto active radar targets as well as pilot but only gunner.

[hot pine]

Does weapon allow radar lock?

Everything locking related should be listed on that page

[undone quiver]

I was thinking maybe it's the fact I don't have a weapon system that allows locking, but that would mean the pilot would still be able to target stuff when they take manual fire yea?

oooo

Wonder if irScanXXX can be used outside of the component sensors.

Figured it out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

[tiny sky]

So I'm looking at adding Persian-language text to MFD displays. I understand that first I'm going to need to add a font with Arabic lettering (ا ب پ etc.) first. Anyone know where to point me for those resources?

And since Arabic alphabets work differently than Roman ones (like cursive), is that handled well by the Arma engine?

[hot pine]

Are Arabic letters are part of Arma?

I'm not sure if C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\FontToTGA even supports it but you can try making new font

[outer sapphire]

as i understand in functions_f\Animation\Interp functions parameter _exp always 2.0?

[hard chasm]

there are no fxy files for arabic in arma. As stated, you would have to create them. For the character set itself, there's no issue since the engine is fully utf8

arbabic (and syriac) glyphs start at codepage 600 of the unicode character set. To use them, be aware that you MUST save your textfiles containing those chars as utf8 bom.

[wraith sedge]

Hi guys, I´m trying to overwrite the ArmA 3 inventory dialog but it´s not working, no controls are moved etc.

Why is that?

I have it in an Addon config file

[grand zinc]

did you check in config viewer ingame that your changes are apllied?

[wraith sedge]

2 new controls are being displayed

@grand zinc Let me see

Amm no

Vanilla ones no

Maybe is this

I´ve never "created" a dialog in a config so

Is this correct x = 0.2525 * safezoneW + safezoneX;

[grand zinc]

if your configs are not applied. Either they aren't loaded at all (CfgPatches?) or overwritten (requiredAddons?)

[wraith sedge]

Or do i need to write it like this x = "35.6 * (((safezoneW / safezoneH) min 1.2) / 40) + (safezoneX + (safezoneW - ((safezoneW / safezoneH) min 1.2))/2)";

It doesn´t matter, right?

[grand zinc]

doesn't matter.

[wraith sedge]

The thing is I created 2 new controls that are displayed and modified the vanilla controls but they´re not changed

I´m going to check CfgPatches and requiredAddons

Do i need to rename my addon to ui_f and class cfgPatches {class ui_f {[...]}};?

Or can I name it different

[grand zinc]

you have to name it different

[wraith sedge]

I do, I´ve done some changes let me see if it works now...

Now it does...

Amm

I changed requiredAddons

Just that

I missed ui_f etc...

But as far as I know requiredAddons are just for warning messages

Of missing files/dependencies

Or error messages

[grand zinc]

they make sure your config loads after the required ones

if you require something to load first.. You gotta put it in requiredAddons...

Because.. That's logical

[wraith sedge]

Oh, I didn´t know it queue up loading mods but that makes sense if you think about it

[hard chasm]

😎

[tiny sky]

Alright, so I got the MFD text working on my gunner display config. Everything except the crosshairs and the compass icon. Anyone know how to add those icon elements (not text) to an MFD? I've exhausted the wiki and I'm poring through default MRAP configs to find the solution

[south bison]

hello

i want to ask how to get my mod zues compatible

[hearty sandal]

what kind of mod is it

[south bison]

army mod

[hearty sandal]

so new units and vehicles and such and you want them to be visible in zeus?

[south bison]

mostly retuxture

but i want to be used in zues for multiplayer

[hearty sandal]

are the originals you have retextured compatible with zeus?

[south bison]

now can't answer that ... because some are venila and others rhs and other mods don't know if they are compatible

[hearty sandal]

google is your friend in these matters I believe

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/167463-making-my-addon-compatiable-with-zeus/

[south bison]

thx

[dusk jungle]

class CfgVehicles {
    class Heli_Light_01_base_F;
    class Heli_Light_01_unarmed_base_F:Heli_Light_01_base_F {
        class Turrets;
    };
    class B_Heli_Light_01_F:Heli_Light_01_unarmed_base_F {};
    class B_MyHummingbird_F:B_Heli_Light_01_F {
        test = 123;
        class Turrets:Turrets {
            test = 123;
        };
    };
};

Issue is that class Turrets in B_MyHummingbird_F ends up not containing any subclasses (even though splendid config viewer shows them). What am I doing wrong?

[hot pine]

you need to define it again

it's special behavior of turret class (+ some others too)

thing about it as https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/configProperties with disabled inherit option - that's how engine is looking at turrets

[lofty zealot]

What config fields in a vehicle tell how many units it may carry and where they are (driver, etc.)?
(please annotate me)

[hard chasm]

cargoPositions[]= (from memory)

damn, I used to know this stuff backwards.

maxTransport?

[hot pine]

transportSoldier

also can be controlled by cargoProxyIndexes[] & FFV turrets

then there is hasDriver command

[hard chasm]

@lofty zealot transportSoldier

Integer: Default Value= 0.

Number of 'passengers' this vehicle can carry. The value does not include the driver, nor any vehicle positions such as gunner (if any) or commander(if any)

[lofty zealot]

sounds complicated ...
so ... transportSoldier is the total number? or?
and how to know if there IS a driver slot, gunner slot, ... slot

[hot pine]

It's only total number of passengers

[lofty zealot]

so includes driver etc.?

no ...

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#transportSoldier meh ..

trying to understand the total number of slots possible, what tells who is driver/commander/...

[sullen fulcrum]

Have a look in bis fnc allturrets what it looks for in config that should cover a lot of positions

[hard chasm]

@lofty zealot

hasDriver=true/false;// also refers to a Pilot
hasGunner=true/false;
hasCommander=true/false;

// a copilot or codriver is the 1st passenger

total occupancy = hasGunner+hasDriver+hasCommander+transportSoldier;

[hot pine]

Has gunner and commander is quite useless to determine if those seats are present

[hard chasm]

if true, they are part of the vehicle

example of a4 man vehicle

hasDriver=true;
hasGunner=false;
hasCommander=false;
transportSoldier=3;
crew=TaxiDriver; //gunner,commander and driver are 'crew'
typicalCargo{girl,boy,dog};// otherwise will be filled with 'crew'
cargoIsCoDriver[] = {1,0,0}; // 4 seats, 1st two are in front windscreen
cargoIsCoDriver[] = {1,1,0}; // a benchseat in front, with one single seat somewhere in rear
cargoIsCoDriver[] = {00,0}; // an asian tricycle, diver in front, benchseat in rear

typical cargo and crew are generic. they do not have to be an explicit soldier or civilian; if generic, they are randomly filled with 'humans' on the same side, further up the inheritence tree.
this is flashpoint information and i don't think bis have been able to break it.

[hot pine]

First of all, you can get multiple turrets

Including ffv seats

[hard chasm]

sure, but they're in compartments

compartments are easier to understand if you look at the twin ack ack gun of arrowhead (forget it's name)

[fathom thorn]

Hi guys. can I force firing from vehicle positions to use the gunnerview lod?

[hard chasm]

gunnerusesPilotView= & commanderUsesPilotView=

[fathom thorn]

but those forces them to use the pilotview lod dont they?

[hard chasm]

yes. that's all I know.

[fathom thorn]

okey thanks

[hot pine]

for turrets - lodTurnedIn/lodTurnedOut/lodOpticsIn/lodOpticsOut
for driver - LODDriverTurnedIn/LODDriverTurnedOut/LODDriverOpticsIn/LODDriverOpticsOut @fathom thorn

@hard chasm what do you mean by compartments?

[hard chasm]

i'll have a look at the FFV stuff first so we're on same page. it's been some time....

[fathom thorn]

@hot pine thanks

@hot pine will those override gunnerUsesPilotView?

[lofty zealot]

thats why i never wanted to dive into config stuff ... waaaay too many variables to grasp 😩

[sullen fulcrum]

Add to it that half of them are not even engine properties

And another half is not documented anywhere

[hard chasm]

not being documented is up to us.
I stopped, but part of the reason is because, as you say, some of the properties are only inspected by sqXcrap which, bis notoriusly decide to change from one day to the next.

most of it is, however hard coded engine properties. There's no obligation ion BI's part to say or document anything about their engine. They just take a bit of glory when we supply it.

With the exception of the comref, the substantive part of the biki comes from OFPEC documentation. We only have ourselves to blame if its out of date.

[lofty zealot]

i care mostly about the engine related stuff

everything else is not useful to replicate stuff in sqfvm

[hard chasm]

yep

orders of magnitude volatile

[hot pine]

@fathom thorn I'm not sure if gunnerUsesPilotView is still working

so yeah, it will override it

[hard chasm]

lesson learned by me when the alice moduile first came out. spent and age and a half using it, documenting it, tooling it. All broken chimneys, and no lights in windows when it changed to Alice2. Never ever again. (same thing happened with particles from arma1, all wasted effort)

[fathom thorn]

@hot pine thanks

[inland gulch]

so for making uniforms, does the uniformClass have to have a scope of 2 or can it be connected to a base class or something?

What I mean is, is it possible to have custom uniforms without creating units that are visible in the editor?

[icy coral]

is there anyway to disable the turnout option for driver and commander ? When i use forceHideDriver = 1; i disable the option but i also cant see the driver in the 1st resolution lod :/

[hearty sandal]

you can set driverOutAction as ""

and gunnerOutAction as ""

[icy coral]

and then deleting the forceHideDriver = 1; ? seems not to work then i can turn out again

or should i change gunnerInAction to gunnerAction then ?

[hearty sandal]

hmmm lets see

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference#gunnerAction.3D_.22.22

the pair seems to actually be gunnerAction for turned out and gunnerInAction for turning in

so if you dont have gunnerInAction it will always be "turned out"

and then disabling forceHideDriver should keep it visible

[icy coral]

yeah, my problem is that my guy in the vehicle shouldnt be able to turn out

[hearty sandal]

yes yes but if there is no turning in

there is no turn out option

[icy coral]

hm so i should delete the whole line with DriverAction and gunnerAction and just let stand the DriverInAction and GunnerinAction

with DriverAction "" he still turning out but with no animation

[hearty sandal]

there is driverAction and driverInAction

and for turrets there are gunnerAction and gunnerInAction

and use just the driverAction and gunnerAction

dont use the InActions

[icy coral]

okay

will try it

its not a normal wheeled vehicle, its a tracked vehicle so works with tankx, but i dont know if this is the problem maybe

[hearty sandal]

should not be

[icy coral]

dont work either ugh

thats it for today, time for sleep -.-

[worn pewter]

trying to test GUI and getting
file 'stoXmissZadi\pi\coIb.png' not found

description.ext

    class iddZt{
        idd=2000;    //=dialogControl;
        class controls{
            class t: RscPicture{
                idc = -1;
                text='stoXmissZadi\pi\coIb.png';
..```
the file at
`%userprofile%\Documents\Arma 3\mpmissions\missZdXadiXarma3.Altis\stoXmissZadi\pi\coIb.png`
_>???

[worn pewter]

looks like <|'|> doesn't work in this place

[sullen fulcrum]

Maybe you need to use double quotes "?

[worn pewter]

@sullen fulcrum its what i meant

[hot pine]

@icy coral

    class Something
    {
        forceHideDriver  = 1;
        viewDriverInExternal    = 1;
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class MainTurret: MainTurret
            {
                class Turrets: Turrets
                {
                    class CommanderOptics: CommanderOptics
                    {
                        viewGunnerInExternal = 1;
                        canHideGunner = 0;
                    };
                };```

[sullen fulcrum]

Sorry but I doubt anyone understands you cryptic language @worn pewter

[grand zinc]

Correct. Single quote definitely works in configs. I'd say though that the path there needs to be a full path. Not relative to description.ext

[icy coral]

@hot pine thanks will try 😃

[hot pine]

I would check if that particularly .png is working with arma (8 bit, etc)

or I would try just jpg/paa

[icy coral]

thanks again works beautiful ^^

[worn pewter]

@grand zinc single quotes does not work in this situation, before writing opposite ,check it ,self
@hot pine the .png wouldn't work, but this doesn't matter because the issue was not related to it's compatibility at all

[hard chasm]

the story behind ' ' and png is they can't be used in desc.ext because they won't be binarised out of existence. This is not the case for configs and rvmats

the truth of the matter behind " and ' is that they very very rarely have any purpose at all and no reason to use them. At all.

[lofty zealot]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/commander
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/effectiveCommander
Where exactly is the difference inbetween theese two from config perspective?

[high berry]

commander will return the player in the "commander" seat within a vehicle. I believe this is the seat which has the flag commanding = 1
effectiveCommander can be overtaken from grouping. i.e. the group leader could be in a passenger spot of a MBT but the AI driver will listen to them, ergo they would be the effectiveCommander however the unit within the commander seat would be the commander

[lofty zealot]

okay, thanks

[lone spruce]

If I wanted an item to be able to be used more then once, say like a first aid kit, would I set up its configs the same way as a weapon magazine?

[high berry]

like a finite number of times or just as long as it's in inventory?

while you think...

Where is the driver optics FOV defined? I am looking at the configs for the Slammer and Stomper and can't determine why they are different. It appears as though the driver view for the Slammer is 1x and allows player to zoom to 1.7x while the stomper is locked with a wider FOV of about 0.3x

i've looked at their viewCargo, viewPilot, and viewOptics classes and they are all the same.

[lone spruce]

Basically I would like a large medical kit to have the ability to be used at least 2 or 3 times while it is in inventory

[grand zinc]

I thought the large medikits have unlimited uses 🤔

[lone spruce]

This is for a custom model I am working on for a survival mod

[lofty zealot]

use multiple items

consume em, and add the next smaller one afterwards

requires SQF though

[lone spruce]

So it wouldnt be done in cpp

[livid heath]

can anyone suggest who might be the best fx person in the modding community? As I'm always in my Vietnam war bubble, I don't pay much attention to these things. Thinking of blastcore type effects, napalm, gas, afterburners, that kind of stuff.

Explosions and smoke and fire, improved claymore fx etc

[stoic lily]

hardly anyone around anymore doing that

ALIAS still does great work with particles, but probably not the kind of work you are looking for

[scarlet oyster]

Back in the days of Arma1 NeoArmageddon did quite a lot of PFX stuff, he's still around in CUP circles.

[hard chasm]

yes. I remember there was a very good biki article about arma1 particles, it all made sense, prolly written by neo. But bis moved goalposts in arma2 and interest waned in going thru the decoding effort again.

[nimble sequoia]

Where does class Library {libTextDesc} appear in game?

[pallid mulch]

I've made a gas tank and after its destroyed i create a fire particle effect but it doesn't do any damage to the player, any tips?

[hard chasm]

@brazen sierra , that is wrongly formatted.. the answer is

    class Library
    {
        libTextDesc = "My fantastic pink elephant";
    };

if you mean, where is it USED

class cfgVehicles
{
class MyGreatWidget
{
class Library{....};

[nimble sequoia]

No, I meant what I asked, which is where does the contents of libTextDesc appear in game? (although thanks for the reply)

In other words, where would your "My fantastic pink elephant" text show up?
No where that I can see.

btw, that's the wrong Apollo you tagged - annoying someone else using my name

[hard chasm]

it appears in the description of the thing in the 3den editor i think, haven't looked for some time

[toxic solar]

besides the Arma 3 samples, is there any other place I can get better understanding for helicopter configs?

[stoic lily]

any particular part/functionality or "anything"?

[toxic solar]

well, I guess the two big areas are max speed and agility of the helicopter

like for example, make the ghosthawk act like the littlebird and the littlebird act like a ghosthawk

in terms of speed, acceleration, agility

[undone quiver]

From my experience a large portion of the performance of a vehicle is simply based on the configs alone.

Mass of the model does play some role, but not nearly as much as the config settings IMO.

[toxic solar]

from what I have been able to tell for helicopters

mass effects the top speed and sensitively to controls

so without changing the models Im tryna make the little bird and ghosthawk swap in terms of flight model

[nimble sequoia]

mikero: it appears in the description of the thing in the 3den editor i think, haven't looked for some time
That would be the logical place, or perhaps the Virtual Garage. But no, you won't find pink elephants there at all.
It could possibly be the in-game "Field Manual > Assets > Vehicles Info", but that seems restricted to just vanilla content?

[hard chasm]

i wish i could be more helpful, but i haven't really played the game since arrowhead. and at that time it was in gear selection. It's just confusing me why i have this 'library' for cars and trucks too.

[dry carbon]

Hey all, is there any way via config to limit the minimum thrust to a VTOL, so that you don't accidentally fall out of the sky? I find that playing around with the envelope and other such parameters helps suppress the rate of descent, but once the throttle is closer to 0% there is the risk of sudden irrecoverable loss of altitude.

[toxic solar]

isnt that how its supposed to be? 0 thrust =nothning to counter gravity thus the VTOl falls?

[dry carbon]

Yeah, but I want a limiter built-in

Helicopters have a "natural" limiter, if you will, called autorotation.

Because there're no freespinning blades, a jet VTOL's decent can be perilous. The limiter would be like a fail-safe to prevent pilot errors with fatal results.

So then, what if you need 0% thrust? Shut the engine off. I doubt 0% would be needed unless you are landed.

[toxic solar]

helicopters have blades, where as VTOLs dont ,IMO id say try a #arma3_scripting apporach ,but thats cause im not sure about a config solution for that

[dry carbon]

Some VTOLs have blades, but yeah you're getting to the point I was at.

I was afraid it might require a scripting approach...

[wise tusk]

Can there be SoundController added in sounds for vehicle? For example:

soundEngineOnInt[]=
        {
            "js_jc_fa18\sounds\FX_FA18_engine_start_in",
            1,
            1
        };

[undone quiver]

So reading through a bunch of RPT logs, does A3 not ignore //comments? I keep seeing error can't read /, and such.

[hearty sandal]

no, comments are not ignored, problem is elsewhere

[undone quiver]

So that is a yes they are ignored?

[hearty sandal]

no

the error message you are seeing is not related to comments

[undone quiver]

Ok sweet, last question. What does it mean there is No shape for ammo type. Is it a model we need to define?

[hearty sandal]

sounds possible. Does the ammo class have no model?

[undone quiver]

I didn't know bullets even needed a model to define.

[hearty sandal]

it can help if you inherit from existing ammo class and change what you need to change

[undone quiver]

Yea, I didn't do the original ammo configs, my guess is they went off of the BulletCore.

I mean technically model = ""; should solve that if we need no model yea?

[hearty sandal]

possibly yes

worth a try

[hard chasm]

What does it mean there is No shape for ammo type
you are inheriting from the wrong class / a non existent class. The property the engine needs to continue, simply isn't there. (in this case a property called type=). Your .rpt will be full of errors screaming at you when it discovers that what you said about the inheritence tree is not the truth. Example:

class A;
class B:A
{
class C; // wrong, it doesn't exist (in this tree)
};

example2:
class Z;

class B:Z // wrong, should be A
{

comments:

you are both talking in double negatives

No, the engine does not ignore //comment lines, it recognises them and ignores the line.

yes, the engine, when it recognises a //comment will ignore the line.

[toxic solar]

is there a better way to config MFDs other then change one thing and then see how it looks in game and then change another thing and try again?

[stoic lily]

@undone quiver there is an "empty" model/p3d in weapons

[undone quiver]

Thank you for the clarification!

[fathom thorn]

hi guys. I just added a new impact sound for my ammo, but I cant understand what parameter controls the volume

tried increasing the second paramter in all these
hitGroundSoft[] = {"soundHitBlade01", 0.14,

but no change

tried increasing the second and third parametern in these
soundImpactBlade01[] = {"WHwalkers\stompa\sounds\chainsaw_blade_hit_01.ogg", 0.35, 1};

no change

and I cant find any documentation on it

[strange egret]

volume pitch range (not necessarily in that order)

[fathom thorn]

yeah but which paramter is that?

[livid heath]

bullet models require mass in a geo lod afaik @undone quiver

or maybe i'm confusing that with grenades and shells

anyway, you'll soon know if you need it

[hard jolt]

Hello. Does anyone know if there is a way to replace a model of CUP A2 tree which is not defined in any config? I recon i can use addon prefix, but as far as i know i should repack whole 500mb addon

[stoic lily]

replace path in wrp/terrain

[hard jolt]

well, i think it is not an option too) So, looks like it is a 500 mb addon replacement

[wise oasis]

hello, anyone happen to know of a good template to use as a base for making custom units? I'm reading through the characters/gear encoding guide atm, just looking for a completed reference

[hearty sandal]

@wise oasis download Arma 3 samples on Steam.

[hard chasm]

well, i think it is not an option too) So, looks like it is a 500 mb addon replacement
kju's answer is the least effort. you replace the one and only reference to the object inside the wrp, and repack that wrp's pbo

fyi: vegetation models (trees) rarely have a config associated with them, because bis don't see any reason to select them in the game editor.

[undone quiver]

Is there any reference documentation for CfgGroups? Like does it require any additional stuff for make it work in Zeus?

[worthy beacon]

Hello
I have a problem with the Gbu 12 bomb
After i lunch it from the plane
It lunch and work but the pylon wont be free
Actuly i can see the GBU on pylone after lunch but cant use it again

The other weapons and magasines on the plane work fine

[stoic lily]

@undone quiver should not - just make sure all units, vehicles and their crew have scope=2

[undone quiver]

Copy I'll check

mmm, that seems to check out.

Like they work in the editor as group, and you can select them in groups in Zeus. But you can't place them, just see the spots they would take up if you were to when hovering over the area.

What is strange is we have a perfectly fine working one in another faction. But going back and forth comparing the two doesn't seem to net any results of discrepancies.

    {
        class West
        {
            class BLU_F
            {
                class Infantry
                {
                    class BUS_InfSquad
                    {```

With the All In One set up for Blufor

Does class BLU_F have to be actual faction class assigned to the units in the vehicleCfg, or did they just name it that way for convenience?

[stoic lily]

anything in rpt?

3rd level is faction class name yes

[undone quiver]

Nothing that would indicate a curator error

[livid heath]

@undone quiver https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/215209-fix-how-to-enable-your-items-to-list-in-zeus/

may help

check all of your groups units are listed in cfgpatches, and i imagine all of your units weapons and kit must also be, and all of the crew for any vehicles in the group. Any accidental duplications of items in the cfgpatches list, or any inclusion of a scope 0 class may prevent it from showing in zeus

[undone quiver]

Makes me happy to see that some one had the same problem. Thank you.

[livid heath]

took me a year to get to the bottom of it

certainly any missing classes listed in cfgpatches arrays will kill the list for zeus

[undone quiver]

Yea, I think they wrote a scope 0 class in the cfgpatches

[livid heath]

i guess it's not a very robust function 😉

there's likely t obe more than one conflating reason going on, so just audit everything

don't have any hope til you've covered all the configs

[undone quiver]

Most the time my solution is nuke it and redo it. Mainly because most the configs were made before I joined the team when they were still learning.

[restive veldt]

how can i modify an already existing class w/o changing everything that is declared in that class? EX: I want to add a magazine to the magazines array of a weapon, would i do that like follows:

class Already_defined_weapon
{
    magazines[] += {"New_magazine"};
};

[grand zinc]

you need to have the correct class identifier
That is classname and it's parent

so in your example you are most definitely missing the parent

Also you need to make sure your mod is loaded after the one that adds the weapon. You do that via the requiredAddons entry in your CfgPatches

[hard chasm]

dedmen is on the money with this, but no-one will thank you for altering a 'pre-existing weapon' it affects all other people who have your pbo on their pc, even tho, they're not using it. The correct way to do this is to inherit the class you want to change and use the new class you made to only affect you.

it takes an age an a half to get a good reputation in the modding communrity. it takes 5 minutes to destroy it. Your addons will be treated as suspect from then on.

[inland gulch]

would using DLC headgear in a mod create a dependency for that DLC?

or any uniform object, really

[undone quiver]

I believe so.

But of course people can still play with it, Just will get the usual watermarks.

[inland gulch]

I see

is there a way for me to test this? I have all the DLC

[undone quiver]

Find some one without the DLC to play your mod?

[hard chasm]

or just remove your dlc!

temporarily move the folder where the engine can't find it

[hot pine]

Dlc watermarks are checked via steam so removing folder will just cause pop up errors about missing Addons and models

[toxic solar]

what determines the overall area of a MFD? like for example wat makes a helicopters MFD usually bigger then a jets?

[hot pine]

MFD?

MFD = multi functional display

[toxic solar]

yes

like the HUD for a helicopter, wat determines its over all size, and for example how is the HUD for the A-164 limited to that small screen in the middle verses how for the Blackfoot its much bigger in comparision

[hot pine]

I'm pretty sure you are thinking about something different thing

MFDs, HUD & HMD are different things

MFD = multi function display - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-function_display
HUD = head up display - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-up_display
HMD = helmet mounted display - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-mounted_display

HUDs & MFDs are restricted by the screen size obviously - you can adjust memory points in p3d to increase or decrees screen size

[toxic solar]

oh okay I see, I thought HUD and HMD where the same as MFD.

[hot pine]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/A3_MFD_config_reference
HMD size is controlled via

                helmetMountedDisplay    = true;
                helmetPosition[]        = {-0.0375,    0.0375,    0.1};
                helmetRight[]            = {0.075,    0.0,    0.0};
                helmetDown[]            = {0.0,        -0.075,    0.0};```

[toxic solar]

oh okay I see,I could never find what helmetRight or helmetDown or helmetPosition meant

[hot pine]

wiki updated

[toxic solar]

oh just now? magical

so helmetPosition refers to teh top left position of the HMD?

and helmetRight points to the top right most position and helmetDown points to the bottom left position of the HMD?

[hot pine]

yea

I'm using following formula to scale up/down HMD

                #define HMD_SIZE 0.065
                helmetPosition[] = {__EVAL(-HMD_SIZE/2), __EVAL(HMD_SIZE/2), 0.1};
                helmetRight[] = {HMD_SIZE, 0.0, 0.0};
                helmetDown[] = {0.0, -HMD_SIZE, 0.0};```

[toxic solar]

Oh okay cool

Thank you very much

I shall now try and see the max size xd

what happens if the __EVAL isnt there?

[hot pine]

mfd is evaluated a little bit slower

since it's converting string to code & evaluating math

[toxic solar]

oh i see, does it also apply the same to other places like say hit="5*5";?

[hot pine]

yes

[toxic solar]

oh okay, I didnt know, and its two underscores correct?

[hot pine]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#EVAL

[grand zinc]

That only works if you have a binarizer that supports __EVAL though.
The only one I know is BI Tools.

[toxic solar]

oh so do I have to use CfgConvert to bin for it to work??

[grand zinc]

Or just use BI Tools AddonBuilder

[hot pine]

pbo project deals fine with them too

[grand zinc]

Oh? I always thought it either doesn't or it's very limited and doesn't support everything that should be supported

[toxic solar]

oooofff that makes tryna test as fast as possible a little bit slower 😦

[hot pine]

I think Mikero addressed most of the issues now

after I started making MFDs for RHS we ended up with files with hundreds of macros & evals

Hatchet send some test files to Mikero and apparently result should be same as BIS binarizer

there still might be some differences here or there - I didn't tried to catch them all since apparently they were rather minor/not visible ingame

[hard chasm]

my tools support eval/exec and warn you when the syntax won't produce a constant. here are only limited number of sqx functions that can be used. rad, sqrt,cos, etc etc. others aren't quite obvious, getProductversion eg can't produce a constant but 'looks' like it can.

[grand zinc]

Do you know since when that is the case?
A year or less?

[hard chasm]

probably, it is a very, very strong parser and can detect a heap of different typos. but most important of all is telling you the sqx verb your using can't be used.

[grand zinc]

But you don't support @ syntax right? The eval that's evaluated when config is loaded by game?
That was the one I wanted to test out if it actually works properly half a year ago.. Never did.
Syntax is val = @<code>; or val = @<code>}

I should really try out if that works. But I said the same half a year ago and didn't do it yet

[hard chasm]

@ was last used in xbox elite. I've never seen an instance of it in arma. but yes, @ behaves the same way as cfgConvert, notably, creating a <code>string.

[grand zinc]

In binarized it would be value type 4
https://github.com/dedmen/armake/blob/cpp/src/rapify.cpp#L523 here
That reminds me, armake is missing type 4 and 5 and 6 ^^
They exist. Even though CfgConvert doesn't produce them

[hard chasm]

type 4 is correct.

it was last used in the xbox, i have never seen it appear in any (arma) config.bin

let me check something that might help u.........

RAPTYPE100_STRING =0x0100,
RAPTYPE101_FLOAT,
RAPTYPE102_INT,
RAPTYPE103_EMBEDDED_ARRAY,
RAPTYPE104_XBOX_ONLY,// "@offset" syntax
RAPTYPE105_DOUBLE,
RAPTYPE106_LONG_LONG,

[grand zinc]

Oh 5 is double. Didn't know what that one was. But Arma doesn't seem to support it anyway

[hard chasm]

1xx refersd to the fact the 1st byte is 01

definate usage. i think, only from memory, in wrp configs. pls don't quote me.

oh and btw the delete keyword applies to any var, not just classes.

it marks the var is invisible to inheritence

[grand zinc]

Okey. It can stay as class for when it get's rapified. But I have to exclude it from parent/entry search then. Thanks

[grand zinc]

Okey forget everything about @. It's almost just a copy of the normal string type. Just with special syntax, and special type ID.
The tiny difference is that when you try to retrieve the value as string.
The @ one evaluates the string as code and returns the string that the code returns.
The normal one checks if the string starts with $STR and if it does returns the localized string.

So not that useful in the end

[hard chasm]

that's my understanding of how it works too.

[lofty zealot]

wondering right now, would this be useful:

class foo
{
#pragma code start
_arr = ["_foo", "_bar"];
{
    write__ format ["    %1 = 0;",_x];
} forEach _arr;
#pragma code end
};```
```cpp
class foo
{
    _foo = 0;
    _bar = 0;
};```

[hard chasm]

in the xbox it was used to point indirectly to the var of that name

[stoic lily]

what kind of sqf code can one use for config params (outside onLoad and similar) - just profileNamespace?

[livid heath]

animationsource question default Bohemia RPG7:
https://youtu.be/IjhrZAJDyvk
Is there any animation juju to fix the hidden RPG magazine during reloadmagazine sequence of an EMPTY launcher? see vid for example.
what is going on here, is that isEmpty or isEmptynoreload are basically hiding the magazine after firing. This means that magazineReloadSwitchPhase of 0.1 in the weapon config still doesn't show the magazine, unless there was already an unhidden magazine present in the weapon whe nthe reload sequence began.
Is this just a limitation ofanimationsources, or has anyone worked out a way to fix it?
Seems a shame to lose the nice reload animation.

@bold tapir @scarlet oyster any ideas?

[grand zinc]

There probably is not a way to spawn a second magazine for the animation, and then just despawn it again when it's in the tube and the real one appears?

or combine the isEmpty and magazineReloadSwitchPhase conditions? Not sure if possible. Just throwing in Ideas

[hot pine]

mag proxy + magazineReloadSwitchPhase

[lofty zealot]

really could use some answer to this here: https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/122121444703338496/512927640089395211
depending on that, my workload & goals for next SQF-VM release might change

[livid heath]

@hot pine still doesn't fix it 😦

[hot pine]

did you removed obsolete hide anim based on hasMagazine ?

it's no longer necessary

[scarlet oyster]

We did our RPGs with those params and it works correctly.

(https://gfycat.com/ShySpecificHorse)

[livid heath]

that was my next question !

            {
                type = "hide";
                source = "hasMagazine";
                selection = "magazine";
                minValue = 0;
                maxValue = 1;
                hideValue = 0.1;
//                unhideValue = 0.5;
            };
            class magazine_hide: unloaded_magazine_hide
            {
                source="reloadMagazine";
                hideValue=0.001;
                unhideValue=0.499;
            };
            class rounds_empty
            {
                type="hide";
                source="isEmpty";
                selection="magazine";
                animPeriod=0;
                minValue=0;
                maxValue=1;
                hideValue=0.1;
            };

so remove hasmagazine hide anim?

ok will test, thanks lads

[hot pine]

isEmpty need to be removed too

[livid heath]

ok thank you so much.

works like a charm

@scarlet oyster how did you achieve the magazine movement before loading? is it part of the rtm using IK on the mag proxy? or clever move anims on the magazine inside the weapon model itself? it would be a really nice feature to be able to bring the magazine up from the belt pouch / backpack in general.

if it's moving the magazine mechanically in the model.cfg it seems like a lot of work to achieve it.

[scarlet oyster]

Its a model.cfg anim

[livid heath]

well it sure is beautiful work mate

[scarlet oyster]

Thanks. That gif shows the first ingame test. It's far more refined now and applied to all weapons.

[livid heath]

so much potential with this funky new magazine proxy - thanks Bohemia 😃

[nimble sequoia]

What is the value range for animationSource engineTemp please? 0-1? Centigrade?

[hot pine]

0 - cold, 1 - fully hot

[nimble sequoia]

thanks 😃

[novel laurel]

theoretically speaking

is there any downside to using eventHandlers in unit config to make a loadout for a unit

and to force identities

i.e. using the eventHandler section in unit config for arsenal exported loadouts

so far as I can discern, it doesn't create dependencies, since it's technically a bunch of addUniform/addVest/addEtc commands that're fired on mission start, before unit init fields from the editor are fired

plus for example, if you're spawning a unit that has eventhandler init in its config, and if it has a vest that's part of an unloaded mod, it doesn't give an error or anything, the unit just doesn't have that vest

those are the only two things I can think of that are different than using normal unit config lines like weapons[] and backpack and etc

would there be anything else I should look out for?

[hard chasm]

my limited experience is that missing materials or textures simply cause that area of the terrain/model to be white.There is generally something in the (dot)rpt mentioning it. It does not crash the game.

On the other hand, missing p3ds, including proxies, DO crash the game.

[lofty zealot]

gonna call for attention on this one again: https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/122121444703338496/512927640089395211 need to know if such a feature would be useful for people or not in pbo packers

[full wave]

Hey sorry if this isn't the right place since i don't know if it is the right...

I have to do something which is something completly new for me since i only write scripts... I need a config change to get an id from the mission.sqm while i initialize the mission. Is there someone who can point me out better information then the Arma 3 website or even help me learning it?

I would be thankfull

[grand zinc]

I need a config change to get an id from the mission.sqm explain? what config change? and what ID?

[full wave]

I have to execute a setVariable command when starting the mission.

This Variable should be for every unit placed in eden (found in mission.sqm) the id of the unit.
The Construct is the following to get it in Mission.sqm:

class Mission
{
    class Entities
    {
        class Item0
        {
            class Entities
            {
                class Item0
                {
                    id=187; <------ this i the one i would need as variable
                    type="I_officer_F";
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

This is how i would need it

class Item0
{
    class CustomAttributes
        {
            class Attribute0
            {
                property="ser_3DEN_ID";
                expression="_this setVariable ['ser_3DEN_ID', _value, true];}";
                 class Value
                {
                    class data
                     {
                        class type
                        {
                            type[]=
                             {
                                "Number"
                            };
                        };
                    value=187;<------ The ID i pointed out.
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

I just don't know where i have to start the change of the Eden editor to get this result

I saw something where you can make a change in the Attribut editor... But i don't need another dropdown menu to set a value like a INIT Field i just need to get the Unique ID of the Mission.sqm over a Setvariable onto the Unit

I get this ID provided in the Mission.SQM in the beginning

class EditorData
{
    class ItemIDProvider
    {
        nextID=444;
    };
};

I hope this is understandable enough to know what i want to do

[stoic lily]

i think you can loadfile the mission.sqm and try to parse it

[pallid snow]

How would I go about adding custom attributes to the tools tab in the eden editor?

[arctic quarry]

Hey is there a way I can skip the lobby and then play a loading screen while the mission file is downloading?

[pallid snow]

#arma3_scripting

[arctic quarry]

there was no help there

[pallid snow]

Someone will come

You have to be patient

Don't multi-post

[arctic quarry]

I sat for an a hour and explained what I'm trying to do and I asked how to do it and all I got was someone shrugging there shoulders, and I can't talk in other chats??????

[pallid snow]

Just stay in scripting, #arma3_config wont help

[arctic quarry]

theres no luck

[grand zinc]

Actually. His issue is not doable with scripting

You can only change the slot selection display with config

[pallid snow]

I haven't read into it, but from what he posted, seemed like a script at a glance

[arctic quarry]

idk what it is anymore

since know one knows how to do it

or there just choosing not to assist me

[pallid snow]

Patience

[arctic quarry]

-_- I been here to long to be told that

I have an idea but idk if it will work

[pallid snow]

Try it

[arctic quarry]

idk how

[pallid snow]

but don't throw in the towel because no-one will help after 1 day. 😃

[arctic quarry]

thats why I'm here

[pallid snow]

Thats the fun of it all 😄

[arctic quarry]

dude I got no help after the first hour its arma

and this is to the point i need some help

[pallid snow]

Dedmen 
Today at 16:16
for such advanced stuff as what he is trying to do. The information is probably not there.
It's a VERY nieche things. And you need to have advanced knowledge about many things to make such a thing

[arctic quarry]

why did you repost that?

[pallid snow]

Because you keep saying no-one will help, but he has helped. He's given you an answer.

[arctic quarry]

-_-

[pallid snow]

Don't be like that just because it's not the answer you wanted 😃 Best I can think of is: You'll want to keep the download display up, but close the lobby display and load the loading screen. This will notify the user of the download, but have them in the loading screen ready.

I wouldn't know where to start

perhaps looking at Full Screen Loading mod or similar will help you get started.

[arctic quarry]

after an hour explaining you said the same thing

you said lobby display same thing I was told earlier

here ill ask you questions in a little about little parts I need help with

[pallid snow]

I'm a little busy atm, I wont be able to help you with much

[arctic quarry]

ok

what is this GUI?

What is this?
class RscDisplayNotFreeze: RscStandardDisplay

I think its a variant of all the other displays

:/

[fathom thorn]

Hi guys. can someone explain to me why my tank sinks into the ground when it dies? that also happens with the sample tank

[arctic quarry]

lol I didn't expect to read that and what are you meaning by with the sample tank?

[grand zinc]

Sample tank. From Arma 3 Samples I guess

[arctic quarry]

oh ok

hmm I had that happen to my car before and i forgot how i fixed it

did you make the tank with everything in the p3d?

[fathom thorn]

yeah the test_tank_01 from the sample files

yeah it has everything

[arctic quarry]

I think I know why

@hard chasm Uh?, do you have land contacts in your p3d and do you have a Wreck vers of the tank?

[fathom thorn]

no wreck, but landcontact yes

instead of using a wreck, Im just hiding some parts of it

and applying some damage materials

[arctic quarry]

wait give me a sec I need to test something and if I'm correct then i know what it is

[grand zinc]

Why dayz?

This is Arma discord

[arctic quarry]

ya I'm soo confused

when he said Dayz I got really confused

[hard chasm]

oh shit oh shit oh shit 😊

[pallid snow]

So in regards to cfgEden, what would one require to add a custom attribute to the tools drop down?

[grand zinc]

https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/addons/arsenal/Display3DEN.hpp#L21 here

[arctic quarry]

while I load up arma @fathom thorn can you show me what happens when your tank gets detroyed

[pallid snow]

Cheers 😄

[fathom thorn]

@arctic quarry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZRZjnaN8Tk&feature=youtu.be

[arctic quarry]

A thats cool asf B whats the problem I don't see the tanks falling through the map

@fathom thorn Are you talking about the Close ones that fall a little bit?

[fathom thorn]

the big yellow one

[arctic quarry]

ya can you show me a side view of the model in object builder

[fathom thorn]

the res lod 1?

[arctic quarry]

umm I think

and does it have wheels and able to be moved?

wait it has tracks

right?

[fathom thorn]

yeah it has wheels and it drives

ya

[arctic quarry]

so send me what your land contacts looks like

show me p3d

in object builder

make sure everything is lined up correctly

show me the Land contacts, Geometry(Each one)

?

[fathom thorn]

hmmm I cant post dropbox links?

Ill pm you instead

[grand zinc]

I've seen the one you just posted

[arctic quarry]

ok

[grand zinc]

@red wharf is the bot messing things up? deleting links?

[red wharf]

the message was posted 5 times

[arctic quarry]

Hey posted once and it removed it

and then he tried 4 other times i think but I only saw it for 1 second and then it was gone

[desert coral]

The dude posted it 5 times within time span of 5 minutes... Was not a discord lag or anything...

[red wharf]

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[arctic quarry]

uh he did I thought it was only once and so he thought it was glitch or something

[red wharf]

it's simple make new url for same picture and post it, ONCE 😃

[fathom thorn]

Got it

[undone quiver]

When making a tracked vehicle amphibious is it the same exact config set up as wheeled ones?

[cedar sail]

quick question guys, anyone know the line of config i need to get items/mags into a custom vest on spawn

[sullen fulcrum]

I've got two cylinders textured with digits, like rounded rotated ribbon (digital rpm indicator). It's animation sources comes from RPM so is float number (range 0 - 1). Obviously the cylinder's animation is smooth, rotate with transitions between digits. Is there a non-scripted way to remove the transition and have angled (incremental) rotation? Like every single unit - the first cylinder rotates by 36 degrees, and every tenth unit - the second cylinder rotates by 36 degrees?
I can do it by setting indenpendent animations for rotation of every digit (20 in total) but it's not what I am looking for (performance reasons).

[sullen fulcrum]

To better understand my issue feel free to look at this short footage: https://youtu.be/IPrHtRapaW0

[hot pine]

performance issue?

[sullen fulcrum]

I mean, I would need to make 20 animations in model.cfg just for one eng rpm indicator (40 in total).
EDIT: 21 and 42 respectively, forgot about one hundred digit.

[hot pine]

mondklab weapon model.cfg anims consist of hundreds anims and according to him it doesn't influence perf at all

btw: not sure if you already know, but you can set zbias in object builder

it should fix those arrows artifacts

[sullen fulcrum]

oh well... so if it's not a problem I will go this way. But, just curious, is there any way to rotate those digits incrimentally?
Oh, yeah, gonna do this or just reposition pointers' covers.

[hearty sandal]

@sullen fulcrum whats your model.cfg animation class like now?

for the rotation

[strange egret]

setting z bias can fuck things up royally

[sullen fulcrum]

@hearty sandal I truly underestimated the number of required animations. All 6 ribbons need 222 animations total. 😙 Quite costly for just eye candy effect. But, well seems it works in OB now, will test it in the game soon.
This is just one rotation of left engine last digit's ribbon (change from 0 to 1):

            class digrpm_l10_1: Rotation_Base
            {
                source = "rpm1RTD";
                selection= "ind_engrpm_l_10";
                axis="ind_engrpm_axis";
                minValue = 0.0099;
                maxValue = 0.0100;
                angle0 = 0.0000001;
                angle1 = 0.6283185;
            };

[hearty sandal]

you are very close to the animation limits though I recall it being said to be around 256

[hard chasm]

the mighty @scarlet oyster and I did some testing in this area.. the actual value is closer to 96. For house animations (broken glass) it's around 25

foot in mouth

[scarlet oyster]

96 bones was what I encountered in Arma2 when doing a lot of individual window shutters. Haven't reached a max bone limit in A3 yet. (But haven't tried for it, either)

[sullen fulcrum]

Actually, they are only 6 bones and only 2 sources of animation, but every bone (cylinder) animated by many partial animations. I am just checking the model in-game so will shortly come back with my findings.

[sullen fulcrum]

At this moment, the addon has 124 bones (planned 50 more) and 360 animations (220 comes from digits alone), but you've mentioned that it might pose a problem so I will look at it. Actually, the last ones added (digits) work so... I haven't checked the addon thoroughly yet, but it seems that all animations work, except ca. 20 announciator warning lamps that weren't tested in-game. So to me, it looks like 256 bones limit may be the correct one in Arma 3. No clue what the number of animations limit is.
Regarding ribbon animations, their increment (range of change, minValue <-> maxValue) must be really small otherwise its rotation might be noticed sometimes.

https://youtu.be/-QPgGQoN9mU

[strange egret]

imo... not worth the crapload of animations

[olive aspen]

hi, im pretty new to config editing and i get a error code 1 cfg convert task failed: i guess i have some syntax errors in my config.

class cfgPatches { class Peer_ABC { units[]= {}; weapons[]={}; requiredVersion=0.1; requiredAddons[]={"A3_Characters_F"}; }; }; class cfgGlasses { #include "cfgGlasses.hpp" };

and this is the content of the cfgGlasses.hpp

class cfgGlasses { class None ; class skn_m04_gas_mask_blue: None { author = "Model by Mr.Skellington, config by Peer"; displayname = "M04 Gasmask (blue)"; model = "data\skn_b_nbc_mask_hood.p3d"; picture = "ui\NBC_b_mask_hood_inv_ca.paa"; mass = 4; }; }

can someone explain my mistake to me?

[hearty sandal]

double cfgGlasses

[olive aspen]

oh yeah. i removed the cfgGlasses class in the cfgGlasses.hpp and its still not working

sa me errorcode

[hearty sandal]

what are you packing with?

addonbuilder/pboProject/other?

@olive aspen

[olive aspen]

addonbuilder

[hearty sandal]

if you can get addonBuilder to fail build then theres something serious wrong

I recommend you check out tools setup guide from PMC wiki and get Mikeros tools and pack with PBOProject

it will give you much better debug info

[olive aspen]

ok. is binerization nessecary or optional?

[hearty sandal]

It is highly recommended

[olive aspen]

ill check your recommendations tomorrow thanks a bunch

[sullen fulcrum]

@strange egret I haven't noticed impact on FPS yet so I'm gonna explore this field further. Note that 95% of the animations are in Pilot View thus shouldn't add load to a server unless copilot will jump in to his seat as he share the pilot view at this moment. But, yeah, 220 animations just for few rotating digits due to the lack of proper animation type is simply.... hmmm.... way too much. Maybe I will exchange them for HUD solution or leave them as rotating indicators.

[olive aspen]

is there a way to change the position a facewear has on the body. my gasmask spawns right at the crotch area not the face

;D

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/947341074457128930/10716317202FF424F474B5820C3E41760EB13D64/

[tropic lake]

But isn't that the correct position? The willy also needs protection from toxic gasses 😄

[olive aspen]

😄

the eyes would be a welcoming addition

[tropic lake]

afaik you need to add the correct memory point to the model

or proxy

to get it aligned properly with the face

but don't ask me which one 😄

you should probably ask in #arma3_model

[olive aspen]

wilco

[high berry]

I'm making a custom UGV but inheriting from a tank (because it is a tank). However, when I am controlling the driver the To Gunner's seat action is available but that causes issues (player locked to gunner view with no actions available and no ability to move, shoot, leave seat, etc.). Any idea what isn't right in my model that is making this action available?

[nimble sequoia]

@high berry If you don't want the driver to be able to move to the gunner's seat, put them in different 'compartments'.

driverCompartments = "Compartment1"; in main config.cpp
gunnerCompartments = "Compartment2"; inside gunner's Turret class in config.cpp

[high berry]

thanks. i'll try that

[wise tusk]

I am having a hard time with paths in CfgSoundShaders. I simply copied some sound for testing and it's original path was that:

samples[] = {{"A3\Sounds_F_Exp\arsenal\weapons\Rifles\Type115\50cal_Type115_closeShot_01",1}};

That worked and I had sound ingame.
I put that file in my sounds folder and tried this:

samples[] = {{"A3\js_jc_fa18\sounds\50cal_Type115_closeShot_01",1}};

samples[] = {{"js_jc_fa18\sounds\50cal_Type115_closeShot_01",1}};

None worked

[nimble sequoia]

@wise tusk Did you try: samples[] = {{"\js_jc_fa18\sounds\50cal_Type115_closeShot_01",1}};

[wise tusk]

Yep just now, same result

[nimble sequoia]

What error message do you get (from rpt) or does it fail to build with Mikero's?

[wise tusk]

16:41:19 Sound: Error: File: js_jc_fa18\sounds\50cal_type115_closeshot_01.wss not found !!!

[nimble sequoia]

When you call textures what path are you using?

[grand zinc]

are you 100% sure the file is there? and also on your pdrive in the same path?

[stoic lily]

1. drag the pbo in a hex editor to see the prefix
2. extract with some decent tool to see it

[wise tusk]

I am sure that file is there, I am packing with PBO manager and never had any issues with that so not using P drive.
I am not sure how to do the part kju has suggested

To textures I simply use "js_jc_fa18\data\Cockpit\FrontPanel\UFC_ca.paa"

and it works flawlessly

But with soundShader - nogo

[nimble sequoia]

I'd recommend p:\ drive and pboProject to build (as they probably would catch your issue at build), but guess you don't want to. Sorry, can't help further.

[stoic lily]

you can also use eliteness to browse the built pbo, check if the wss is in there and what the prefix is set to

[wise tusk]

Ok will do, thanks

[stoic lily]

another thing is to verify the wss format

like file may be here but not what the engine expects

[restive veldt]

I'm having an issue with a dialog that has shortcut buttons on it. I have textures for each of the buttons on the dialog but for some reason they are rendering distorted. When i display the textures for the buttons in a structured text hint, the textures show up as they should. Any ideas why im getting this behavior?

[nimble sequoia]

I'm not an expert on that aspect, but suspect it will be the UV map. Does the UV for each button texture completely fill the UV space?

[restive veldt]

tbh, i don't know. I'm not artistically inclined so someone else made them for me, I could send you one?

[nimble sequoia]

(It might have parallels to renderTargets which can exhibit similar issues)

Are the buttons an Object Builder model? I might be completely misleading you here.

[restive veldt]

negative, they are just a simple paa file

[nimble sequoia]

Yeah, I didn't notice you mentioned 'dialog'. Ignore me, sorry.

[restive veldt]

ah, lol thanks for your help though

[nimble sequoia]

I'll try another guess question though. 😉 Are the textures ratio in power of 2?

ie. 256x256, 512x512

[restive veldt]

ill have to check, i hadn't thought of that

lol i had to explain that to guy that i got them from at first to get the background for this dialog to show, chances are you just solved my problem

they are 128x128 so i don't think dimensions are a problem then

[nimble sequoia]

Are the buttons the same ratio?

[restive veldt]

well i have the buttons set as perfect squares but i have them built using safezone (because thats how the dialog creator i use outputs the data for the dialog)

[nimble sequoia]

Really don't know much about dialogs, but I read that positions and sizes are relative to the viewport, not in pixels. So if your viewport is 16:9 and you used x=128, y=128... problem?

[restive veldt]

not quite sure what you mean by that, but what i mean is that when i was building the dialog buttons, they are set up as perfect squares meaning height == width

[restive veldt]

could it possibly have anything to do with Size and SizeEx?

sizeEx seems to do nothing, but all size does is change text size, so I'm at a loss here

[hard jolt]

Can someone give an advice? My mate fixed the fire geometry model of a2 fir-tree, but i cant make reliable replacement because many terrains use it directly by the model path (so only addon prefix replacement of whole plants2 will work, AFAIK)

only problem is that client will not get a replacement if in has CUP terrains after that addon in load order

i was trying to plant some cfgpatches class into modded plants2 and mention it in required addons and in preload addons, but no luck

[hard jolt]

well. I didnt test it yet on large playres number with various launchers and load orders but

#include "\ca\plants2\require.h"

seems to be a workaround

[hearty sandal]

@hard jolt ask if cup can include it

[hard jolt]

Yep may be we should but how long we will got to wait for the patch)

[hearty sandal]

that youll have to ask from them

[high berry]

i'm having an issue with a tank i'm building where it continues to drive forward with no thrust applied. after i get to about 12kph, it just keeps going. I'll hit the brakes to slow down, but after releasing brakes, it speeds back up again, basically all the way to max speed

i've tried increasing the engineLosses but that doesn't seem to do it and i don't want to increase it too much and have other issues.

[high berry]

is there a way to get the vehicle RPM?

ideally through scripting

and/or the current vehicle gear?

[strange egret]

no.

only if there is an animation that uses the respektive source

[stoic lily]

you can via sound controllers

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getSoundController

• https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Sound:_SoundControllers

[somber meadow]

Is there any info anywhere on getting settlein crew anims working i.e. the CfgMovesBasic and MaleSdr States class? My attempt is doing the transition fine but staying in the settle RTM rather than switching to the proper anim state that I'm giving it via connectTo[]=

[outer sapphire]

is possible to repack addon without game restart?

[astral pagoda]

I suggest working with file patching

[outer sapphire]

i tryed -filePatching, but [] execVM from addon is not working for me 😦

[grand zinc]

is possible to repack addon without game restart?
no. Use filePatching. Only option.

[outer sapphire]

class RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup : RscStandardDisplay {
    onLoad = "[""onLoad"",_this,""RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup"",'GUI'] call     (uinamespace getvariable 'BIS_fnc_initDisplay');[5,70] execVM ""C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3\scripts\rovnatel.sqf"";";
};

that class defined in config.cpp in addon

i enabled filePatching, but still script not found 😦

maybe i do something wrong

[grand zinc]

Because that's not how filepatching works yeah

filepatching can't load files outside of arma directory

you want the path to be \scripts\rovnatel.sqf not sure about the leading backslash. Maybe remove that too

[outer sapphire]

thank you!

awesome!

that working

thank you!!!!

😃

hm...

script not found still

[grand zinc]

you just said it's working 😄

have you tried with and without leading backslash?

[outer sapphire]

yes, but still addon can't execVM my file

[outer sapphire]

12:20:58 Warning Message: Script \scripts\rovnatel.sqf not found
12:20:51 Warning Message: Script scripts\rovnatel.sqf not found

[grand zinc]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/isFilePatchingEnabled that returns true? right?

[outer sapphire]

yes, is working 😃 problem was in bat file

is possible to get active event handlers from control? When i use ctrlAddEventHandler [...]; is return eventHandlers value. But how i can get list?

[grand zinc]

no you can't

[olive aspen]

i got my gas maskes now working, until i try to start the mission. then the y disappear from the glasses slot and are no longer visible

do i have to add a allowedslot to them?

[dusty epoch]

withRscEdit is it possible to change the text color on selection

[tender folio]

does anyone know where the particle effects for .bisurf files are defined?

[wild pasture]

Like what properties a particle effect has? Most should be in a3\data_f\ParticleEffects\config.cpp, and most of them start with "Impact".

[tender folio]

im trying to find out how i can have a different effect play when my ManX character gets hit

like a blood splat but purple

[wild pasture]

A bunch of bullets in a3\weapons_f\config.cpp have a HitEffects entry that'll tell you which impact defined in the bisurf corresponds with what particle effect

I think you're looking for the particle effect called ImpactEffectsBlood

[tender folio]

hmm

alright thank ya

[tender folio]

having a strange issue with units not showing in zeus

units defined in CfgPatches and scopeCurater set to 2 and still no luck

[undone quiver]

@tender folio Rob (Eggbeast) Sent me this handy forum post link a couple weeks ago. That helped me solve my Zeus issues.
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/215209-fix-how-to-enable-your-items-to-list-in-zeus/

[tender folio]

thanks

[lethal bobcat]

I have a small question regarding Modules. When seeing this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Modules I found the class Attributes : AttributesBase. But almost every Module config I saw had class Arguments. I was told it might be a new thing but I could not find any documentation about it. Can sb. enlighten me?

[steep pawn]

What in a uniform config would possibly cause headgear not to show when wearing it?

[livid heath]

quick question about mod conflicts: I have two separate mods, both modifying configfile >> "CfgWeapons" >> "Put" >> "DirectionalMineRemoteMuzzle" >> "magazines"

both mods have the exact same requiredaddons and requiredVersion = 0.1;

they both use magazines[]+= {new mags};

and yet whichever order i load them up in, mod 2 always dominates, and mod1's magazines do not show up in the muzzle mag array in config viewer

i do not want to establish a depndency between these mods, they must each work alone. i am trying to enable them to work together with both magazines arrays being loaded

is it possible?

[hot pine]

just create new muzzle?

[livid heath]

i can try that thanks R

i was just trying to keep things tidy, by adding claymore types to the same muzzle

muzzles[] += does work in this case. thanks again 😃

[hot pine]

np 😉

[heady wharf]

Trying to set up a turret UI that shows an 8-digit grid for target position (rather than 6). Is there a config-based solution for this? Example, RHS MELB turret config has this:

class ValueTPOS: RangeText
{
idc=172;
font="PuristaMedium";
sizeEx="0.0295SafezoneH";
colorText[]={1,1,1,1};
shadow=2;
x="41.8 (0.01875 * SafezoneH)";
y="4 * (0.025 * SafezoneH)";
w="6 * (0.01875 * SafezoneH)";
h="1 * (0.025 * SafezoneH)";
};

[outer sapphire]

i can't find that addon

a3\missions_f_exp

but functions loading from that

[grand zinc]

Windows search does wonders
https://s.sqf.ovh/Discord_2018-11-24_19-04-14.png

[outer sapphire]

hmm

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489140736332398595/515952393721085952/52.png

[grand zinc]

Well...

Arma Apex DLC pbo's won't be inside the Arma vanilla pbo folder

[astral pagoda]

[outer sapphire]

😄

[young oar]

So if I have a custom skeleton that is bigger or smaller than the armaman, is there is way to have it when the custom skeleton picks up an arma weapon it switches the config to a different one so that the weapon can be used by both the original arma models or ones with a custom skeleton? or would that have to be done with scripts if that is even possible?

[hearty sandal]

it should be possible yes.

but will need a custom script to do so

Been planning that myself too for some time now

just have not had time to continue on my ArmaWoman project

[young oar]

ok, that's good. Just needed to know so i don't have to make duplicates of the weapon models.

[hearty sandal]

yeah no duplicate models

just config classes that use animations for the new skeleton

[young oar]

ok, i'll try and get that script working sometime when i get around to it.

[hearty sandal]

probably could be done using right eventhandlers

[fathom thorn]

hi guys. anyone here have experience with aiAmmoUsageFlags?
Im having two different weapons on the same turret, and I want the AI to switch between them based on enemy type.

the first one is for armour only:
aiAmmoUsageFlags = "512";

second, infantry and light vehicles:
aiAmmoUsageFlags = "64 + 128";

the AI seem to use the second one on all targets, even though its HE rounds

do I need some other settings too?

[outer sapphire]

is any way to change default playerSide?

[hearty sandal]

in where?

[outer sapphire]

@hearty sandal where you connect on server. You automaticly select west slot

[hearty sandal]

👆 very important information related to your question. Now someone might be able to help you.

[outer sapphire]

hm... maybe ```sqf
ctrlActivate (findDisplay 70 (displayCtrl 107));

but idk, will try

[hearty sandal]

do you have slots for multiple sides ?

[outer sapphire]

yes, but i find solution

just redefine rscDisplayMultiplayerSetup

class rscDisplayMultiplayerSetup {
    onLoad = "[""onLoad"",_this,""RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup"",'GUI'] call     (uinamespace getvariable 'BIS_fnc_initDisplay');ctrlActivate (findDisplay 70 (displayCtrl 107));";
};

and now i have - civilian side selected automaticly

[hearty sandal]

👌 👌 👌

excellent!

[outer sapphire]

but for now i have a new problem 😃

i have in description.ext

    joinUnassigned = 0;

role automaticly select.

but when i change side - role still on default side

that working only one time

but i need to select free slot when player change side

[nimble sequoia]

When an object is attached to a vehicle with attachTo, does it mass become zero?

[grand zinc]

Shouldn't. why?

Also why #arma3_config ?

[nimble sequoia]

Oh, I'm making configs (vehicle suspension). But I guess scripting would have worked too.

Do you know that it keeps mass? I suspect it doesn't and am asking for confirmation.

[grand zinc]

Well attachTo'ed vehicles are not simulated.. like.. well

they are attached

forced to follow the parent's orientation and position

so their mass doesn't matter

like.. massscript command should still properly return the mass.

[nimble sequoia]

If you attach a 10t object to a vehicle it might matter to the suspension of the vehicle?

[grand zinc]

nope

[nimble sequoia]

so the attached objects mass is not used in spring damper calcs?

[grand zinc]

yeah.
Haven't you seen yet what people build with attachTo?

a quad with 3 T-90's on top wouldn't work if their mass would weigh down on the quad

[nimble sequoia]

Good, that's kind of what I was asking - it has effectively no mass for the purposes of the vehicles suspension

[stoic lily]

@fathom thorn AI uses aiAmmoUsageFlags only as advice - not as strict limiter. cost of ammo is also playing into it much

[heady wharf]

In helicopter config, is there anything that needs to be defined besides driveOnComponent in order to get it to roll properly? Helicopter I am working on doesn't roll, makes the skids noise when landing and not sure why...

[fathom thorn]

@stoic lily ok nice to know ty

Does hit and ammotype also matter?

[stoic lily]

hit yes. type not sure

[tender folio]

is there a way to include the new 3DEN compositions in addons?

[tender folio]

also is there a way to add the properties of diving goggles to a helmet?

[olive aspen]

are you familiar with the ace goggles Framework?

the effects i configured in the config file for my mask are not working at all

[nimble sequoia]

Can someone kind remind me (it escapes my memory) how to prevent the damage showing across an entire vehicle when only shooting a wheel?

• shoot wheel to >50% of it's hitpoint damage ---> all class Damage materials switch to second stage and all of vehicle looks damaged
  I don't want there to be any damage to the main body when a wheel is shot off.
  class Hitpoints { ...other stuff... class HitLFWheel { name = "wheel_1_1_steering"; visual = ""; radius = 0.33; armor = -150; material = -1; minimalHit = 0.0133333; explosionShielding = 4; passThrough = 0; }; ...other stuff... };

[untold temple]

visual = ""; would be the section of the model that you want to change to the damage .rvmat

[nimble sequoia]

Thanks for the reply - do you mean that leaving it blank is the problem?

[untold temple]

well the wheel wont change material on its own without it being defined. Depending on what you are using to damage the wheel it might be damaging the entire hull with indirecthits

[nimble sequoia]

I might not have explained the issue well. I don't want the wheel to change texture when being shot, and so it doesn't have an entry for it's rvmat in class Damage. It 'deflates' fine and is destroyed fine when being shot.

[untold temple]

armorStructural and passthrough work in unison to apply damage from individual hitpoints to the main hull

[nimble sequoia]

However, it's the rest of the vehicle showing damage that is the problem. I'm examining hitpoints and can see that there is no indirect damage occuring.

ok...solved it 😃

visual = "-";

[untold plinth]

Back when I began modding in OFP I was certain there was an ability to randomise named selections on a model (boxes on the back of tanks ect) after a Google search I can't seem to find any info on it. Anyone have any idea? I don't think this was model related, might have been init scripted though.

But thought I'd post here to be sure.

[inland gulch]

Would it be possible to create a preprocessor macro that takes only the input and turns it into a simple object class where the input is the full path to the model?

So this: ObjectClass(\a3\animals_f\butterfly.p3d)
Would become: class tag_butterfly {scope = 2; displayname = butterfly; model = \a3\animals_f\butterfly.p3d};

I need to do this for ~8k different models and have a list of those files

[inland gulch]

nvm I made a batch file so I could have 2 separate inputs

REM run "for /r %f in (*.p3d) do call "P:\BTHBC_A3EM\source\batch\getFileName.bat" %f" in addon directory to get all .p3d names

@echo off
Set filename=%1
For %%A in ("%filename%") do (
    Set Folder=%%~dpA
    Set Name=%~n1
)
echo.ObjectClass(%Name%, %Folder%) >> classMacros.txt

The batch file I made for anyone that might find it helpful

[tiny sky]

For helo guys: what parameters am I gonna want to touch to handle like, balance and "wobbliness" of a helicopter with AFM? I kinda slapped the config together with no real idea of what's going on so it runs and stuff, just is weird when it flies. I can't even describe it

It's almost like it's slow to accelerate and at the same time feels unsteady

[wise tusk]

So the jet on the ground accelerates to some speed and instantly cant go faster. I am fairly certain the wheels are issue. What might be causing it?

[hot pine]

maxOmega @wise tusk

[wise tusk]

@hot pine unfortunately not. Speed increases constantly and normally , hits 252 and it is stuck .
Wheel config:

 class n_wheels
          {
            boneName="n_wheels";
            steering=1;
            side="left";
            center="Wheel_1_center";
            boundary="Wheel_1_rim";
                width=0.30000001;
                 mass=80;
                 MOI=40.0962896;
                 dampingRate=0.25;
                 dampingRateDamaged=1;
                 dampingRateDestroyed=1000;
                 maxBrakeTorque=1500;
                 maxHandBrakeTorque=0;
                 suspTravelDirection[]={0,-1,0};
            suspForceAppPointOffset="Wheel_1_center";
            tireForceAppPointOffset="Wheel_1_center";
                maxCompression=0.2;
                maxDroop=0.3;
                sprungMass=4000;
                springStrength=250000;
                springDamperRate=70000;
                longitudinalStiffnessPerUnitGravity=40000;
                latStiffX=25;
            latStiffY=180;
            frictionVsSlipGraph[]=
            {
              {0,1},
              {0.5,1},
              {1,1}
            };

[hot pine]

and what maxOmega do you use?

[wise tusk]

tried 2000 and 4000 same result

[hot pine]

it could be also MOI or longitudinalStiffnessPerUnitGravity

I would try also maxOmega = 20000

[wise tusk]

Will try them

Also, the "speed limit" increases to 330ish when flaps are down. Maybe then it is something with flight model?

[hot pine]

it could be too

[strange egret]

spawn it in air try if it flies

[heady wharf]

Anyone know if there is an idc for 8 or 10-digit target position grids for the Turret UI?

Here is an example for the 6-digit grid:

class ValueTPOS: RangeText
{
idc=172;
font="PuristaMedium";
sizeEx="0.0295SafezoneH";
colorText[]={1,1,1,1};
shadow=2;
x="41.8 (0.01875 * SafezoneH)";
y="4 * (0.025 * SafezoneH)";
w="6 * (0.01875 * SafezoneH)";
h="1 * (0.025 * SafezoneH)";
};

But I'd like to give the more detailed 8 or 10 digit version

[glass tree]

If this isn't the appropriate channel let me know and I'll be on my way.
So I have a music mod that I was just updating recently, and I decided that I wanted to add some categories to make it a bit easier to navigate among them, since it'd be used for Zeus and right now it's just a slew of songs all in 1 tab.
I've got it so when in the Zeus interface, you can bring up the 'Play Music' module and see the 2 categories 'DMP - Foreboding/Ominous' and 'DMP - MISC', however upon opening either of these categories none of the songs appear.
Prior to tweaking the config file all songs appeared and played just fine, so I messed something up in here (And I only included 3 of the 20 songs):

class CfgPatches
{
    class Darcy
    {
        units[] = {};
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[] = {};
    };
};

class CfgMusicClasses
{
    class DarcyOminous
    {
        displayName = "DMP - Foreboding/Ominous";
    };
    class DarcyMISC
    {
        displayName = "DMP - MISC";
    };
};

class CfgMusic
{
    class OpChimera
    {
        name = "Operation Chimera Theme";
        sound[] = {"\addons\music\Operation Chimera Theme.ogg",1,1};
        theme = "DMP - Foreboding/Ominous";
        duration = "168";
        musicClass = "DMP - Foreboding/Ominous";
    };
        class InTheEndCin
    {
        name = "In The End - Cinematic Cover";
        sound[] = {"\addons\music\In The End Linkin Park Cinematic Cover (feat. Jung Youth  Fleurie)  Produced by Tommee Profitt (1).ogg",1,1};
        theme = "DMP - MISC";
        duration = "234";
        musicClass = "DMP - MISC";    
    };
        class Sentenced2Death
    {
        name = "Colossal Trailer Music - Sentenced To Death (Powerful Action Hybrid)";
        sound[] = {"\addons\music\Colossal Trailer Music - Sentenced To Death (Powerful Action Hybrid).ogg",1,1};
        theme = "DMP - Foreboding/Ominous";
        duration = "238";
        musicClass = "DMP - Foreboding/Ominous";    
    };```

[hard chasm]

musicClass = "DMP - MISC"; //wrong
musicClass=DarcyMisc;

[glass tree]

I'll check try that, thank you.

[ruby pine]

would anyone like to help me configure to dual optics for my gun?

I'd need to define a separate model only visible when scoping

I dont know if the "viewOptics" class with two subclasses is the right way to go because when setting opticsModel it doesnt seem to actually do anything :/

[ruby pine]

I really need help so if it's possible then please do so :/

[astral pagoda]

Optic is not removeable?

[ruby pine]

you mean the scope cant be removed?

[astral pagoda]

Yes

[ruby pine]

nope, it's in the model itself

[astral pagoda]

okay

class OpticsModes might be what you looking for?

[ruby pine]

isnt that just for night/thermal vision?

I have one acog (zoomed) scope and one aimpoint (red dot) scope mounted ontop

[astral pagoda]

That's how e.g. DMR scope works

so it's the same as your case

[ruby pine]

they are supposed to be shot with both eyes open

so cant have "black border"

I cant make it use a different .p3d model when scoping in?

[hot pine]

no, you can't

you could script optic swap during zoom in but it's quite complicated thing

[ruby pine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kUDuReW3FA

okay

[hot pine]

it's single p3d

[ruby pine]

yeah I know

but I have everything excessive ripped off on my scoped model

and I also dont know how to make the scope "texture" appear black when in normal mode as in the video

whilst when scoping it is transparent

or rather, transparent with a dot inside

[hot pine]

have you checked example scope from arma 3 samples?

[ruby pine]

no I dont know where to get arma 3 samples

[hot pine]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/390500/Arma_3_Samples/

Steam

Arma 3 Samples

Formerly part of Arma 3 Tools, this application contains all necessary samples to get started with Arma 3 content creation. The collection covers a broad spectrum of topics, from scenario design to mod making. Along with every sample comes commented code and relevant document...

[ruby pine]

okay thanks

[wise tusk]

I am not sure if AoA source in class MFD indicates correct thing

[fathom thorn]

hi guys. Can I fill the cargo seats in a vehicle by default? only my turrets are crewed but I'd like the passenger seats to be populated aswell

[toxic solar]

For a helicopter what determines how long it takes from engine off to then taking off?

is it liftForceCoef?

becuase I have tried changing it and I dont notice any changes

[ruby pine]

wtf is proxyIndex

ive tried googling this but all references on bisim have been taken down

[hot pine]

proxyIndex is used for vehicle turrets

lets say you want second turret to use proxy with index 11

you can put proxyIndex = 11 in turret config then

@toxic solar do you mean start up time?

if yes, then you are looking for startDuration

[toxic solar]

@hot pine omg I didnt know that existed....thats such a simple answer XD. does it effect anything with soundEngineOn or soundEngineOff sounds? Or do I just have to make my sound be made to fit that duration?

[hot pine]

you have to adjust your sound

[toxic solar]

and does it also effect the rotorspeed ? so say i have this

class EngineExt
{
    sound[] = {"startUp.ogg", 1.25893, 1, 400};
    frequency = "rotorSpeed";
    volume = "6 * camPos * (0 max (rotorSpeed))";//"4 * camPos * (0 max (rotorSpeed-0.4))";
};
``` would `rotorspeed` be the same after say 

startDuration=5

```startDuration=20

[hot pine]

not sure atm but I don't think it's affecting it

[toxic solar]

okay ill go and try it out right now and see what happens

[ruby pine]

        {
            displayname = "hii";
            SET_OPTICS_APERTURE(300);    
            eyePosition = "eye_upper";
        };```

I added another mode to my weapon

is this the correct way to change eye location

[ruby pine]

anyone?

[hot pine]

nope, it doesn't look correct

https://pastebin.com/CvN32t8a

here you have rhs acog example

[ruby pine]

nope no success

[hearty sandal]

@ruby pine btw BI is not same as BISIM so dont look up BISIM stuff

[ruby pine]

I mean this is for vbs3 but there's literally no help anywhere to that

So arma3 code that might bw portable is still better than nothing. But i'm sorry if thats wasting your time

[hard chasm]

vbs maintain their own well documented wiki

[hearty sandal]

@ruby pine VBS works totally different way

arma documentation is of no use

you should have said this waaay earlier

VBS3 comes with internal documentation files

[hard chasm]

and they actually pay their employees to write them!

[hearty sandal]

assuming you have legit copy 😛

[ruby pine]

I do

but I can tell you, that the "internal documentation" is very poor.

[north plinth]

what version are you on?

[ruby pine]

3.9 something

not latest

[hard chasm]

i've only seen vbs wiki, and it was reasonable then.

[north plinth]

roger

[hearty sandal]

I work with vbs3 occasionally

I've seen the docs

I would not say theyre poor

[ruby pine]

what else is there other than developer's reference?

internet docs are down

[hearty sandal]

thats it.

but also everything works different from Arma

[north plinth]

wouldn't say that

[hearty sandal]

so the optics and such have to be made vbs way

semantics @north plinth

theyre 2 different products that share roots

yes