#arma3_config | ARMA | Page 86

inland gulch May 19, 2018, 9:12 PM

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@jade brook forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do I use the delete keyword?

jade brook May 19, 2018, 9:14 PM

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https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/blob/master/addons/jr_prep/config.cpp#L35

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This for classes, but I recall this also working for entries.

inland gulch May 19, 2018, 9:15 PM

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I'll give it a shot, thanks

stoic lily May 20, 2018, 3:45 AM

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it will still be inherited

undone quiver May 20, 2018, 8:27 AM

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How much does mass distribution effect the AI overall when operating vehicles? I mean in theory it shouldn't effect their decision making right? Asides from extremes on light and heavy.

boreal heart May 20, 2018, 8:59 AM

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@hot pine What does this new uvanimation stuff allow from an Arma perspective?

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Sounds very interesting

hot pine May 20, 2018, 9:00 AM

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i.e. halftracks using carX simulation

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moving maps ( @wise tusk )

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maybe rivers

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easier digital clocks/indicators where mfd is not applicable

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dunno, use imagination 😛

livid heath May 20, 2018, 10:03 AM

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Are rotating miniguns possible in a gunpod proxy? I imagine not but thought id ask in case support had been encoded for it

hot pine May 20, 2018, 10:05 AM

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yes

untold temple May 20, 2018, 10:15 AM

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yep, revolving animation source

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I thought it was in the model.cfg example I posted

livid heath May 20, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Yeah sorry forbad memory been doing way too much recently!

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So we forfeit shell drop and gas fx for the benefit of moveable gunpods

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And emptying rocketpods

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Which clinches it

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Am considering a half days blast through our helicopter gunships

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How are two-seaters handled? Pilot has the pods, or can components be added to gunner also now?

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Thinking of a cobra

untold temple May 20, 2018, 10:59 AM

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you pick the default pylon owner in the config. Can be changed ingame by clicking the icon next to the loudout selection

livid heath May 20, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Oh wow thats so farsighted to include twin seat compatibility

untold temple May 20, 2018, 11:00 AM

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turret[] = {#}; parameter in the pylon class

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undefined is driver IIRC

livid heath May 20, 2018, 11:01 AM

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0 or 1 i guess? Ah ok

untold temple May 20, 2018, 11:02 AM

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0 would be gunner (first turret)

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1 second turret. [0,1] second gunner of first turret etc. etc.

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turret[] = {}; will reset to driver

livid heath May 20, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Its a lot of work bringing our air fleet up to standard, but good fun. I’m thinking of bringing back my simple preset useraction for cockpit rearming on the fly

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As all the other solutions ive seen seem a bit overengineered

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I was showing myke through the general jets changes last week, you might recall his innovations in arma2. Its really nice to have engine support for this stuff now thanks to john and sauls drive and vision with jets

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Myke was pioneering mass and faction based universal pylon systems in a2 but hampered by the engine limitations

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Moveable animated gunpods and twin seat functionality is the icing on the cake

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I guess a step too far was a native code to enable in cockpit rearming drawing from the pylonpresets if near to an object with transportammo

sick zephyr May 20, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Hey guys, I've made a custom optics mesh and whenever I try to select it in Arsenal it gives me the "preNLOD format" message, any idea what might be the issue?

strange egret May 20, 2018, 6:21 PM

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is it binarized ? error free?

sick zephyr May 20, 2018, 9:28 PM

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yeah

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mikero

frank holly May 21, 2018, 12:42 AM

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Hey, might be stupid question but what does modelSides[] do?
Also does anyone have a nice list of config examples for vics(and pretty much everything else), smth like this https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:config:stiltman-retexturing-tutorial and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide

strange egret May 21, 2018, 1:10 AM

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google "allinone config arma 3" for the latest version of full ingame config. You can also check all configs ingame with configviewer (in mission editor there is a button)

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sample configs with comments are in arma 3 samples on steam

frank holly May 21, 2018, 1:11 AM

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okey, thanks

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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@sick zephyr try #arma3_model - i think it means the model its bugged in some way. maybe binarize logs or debug.log from diag.exe will give more info

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 8:28 AM

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is there a way to reload added configs by a mod i am working on without the need to restart the game all the time?

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 8:33 AM

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@uncut wagon diag_mergeConfig

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 8:38 AM

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thanks i will look into that

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 9:00 AM

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hmm does that also work with new modules for eden editor? I am running that command linking to the cpp file in eden right now.

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 9:26 AM

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not sure what you mean - pastebin the config and screenshot please

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 9:28 AM

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I want to add new modules to the eden editor
https://pastebin.com/8wsZRdTp

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Turns out I forgot to add the include in my config.cpp to the custom eden category...

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still, it looks like I cannot update this config on the fly then.

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 9:35 AM

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why should you not be able to

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 9:36 AM

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no idea. I am running arma3diag exe and execute this command

diag_mergeConfigFile["P:\diwako_anomalies\config.cpp"]

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 9:36 AM

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did you load this as pbo in the first place?
if not you have to leave the editor and go back for it to be active

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 9:37 AM

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yes I have loaded the mod as pbo

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 9:44 AM

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so you changed the pbo, loaded the config browser and your change was not applied?

uncut wagon May 21, 2018, 9:46 AM

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so far i did not open the config browser. Sorry ot be such a nuisance.. It is alright now. So far what i wanted to do works.

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But i appreciated the effort in helping me

stoic lily May 21, 2018, 9:56 AM

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np

oak hound May 21, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Hello , Would it be possible to block particles with a wall

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I created a spray paint but the particles are not stopping on the wall

buoyant mason May 21, 2018, 3:09 PM

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No, it's a engine issue @oak hound

oak hound May 21, 2018, 3:13 PM

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okeys ty

dawn jetty May 21, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Does anyone know a solution to MakePbo giving me 'missing file(s)' even though the file exists?

strange egret May 21, 2018, 5:31 PM

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the files dont exist, if it says so. This means wherever you put it, it was the wrong place

dawn jetty May 21, 2018, 5:53 PM

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The issue was resolved. It didn't like being in a subdirectory on the workspace. Naughty naughty.

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Thank you.

grand zinc May 21, 2018, 6:38 PM

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https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/pull/928 here are more thoughts on magazineWell's by CBA/ACE @\reyhard

untold temple May 21, 2018, 7:27 PM

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The base class thing that the guy is talking about is unnecessary. The classes will merge if they have the same name. Overwrites would only happen with people using the same array name inside the class. Which is why properly tagging TAG_Magazines[]= for each array is crucial

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It works without interdependency on a core addon, so long as people stick to the agreed classnames for the wells

jade brook May 21, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Yes, he misunderstands how this works.

frank holly May 22, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Hello, I have a rather weird problem: A modded vest calls for a file(.paa, with entire path) that is not mentioned in my current config anywhere.
The model, textures etc come from another modpack(I don't plan to release, it's for training purposes).
I copied entire vest class part from source mod and adapted the path, file names etc(done this before many times).
Yet in game when choosing that vest I get an error with the path that is used in source file
I have no idea what to do at this point, base classes for that vest show up fine and the vest itself inherits form those base classes + new model, picture and texture(and texture is giving the error)
Any ideas?

frank holly May 22, 2018, 12:53 AM

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did some testing, seems like only the model parts(.p3d) cause the error
Can you config a static path inside a model?

frank holly May 22, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Well thanks for help, after some research I found out it is tied to the model. And I can't open it with object builder. But if I simply add a pbo with provided static path and the file everything works

opal crater May 22, 2018, 2:02 PM

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If i would like to change how placement of explosives is handled where should I look? (I want to edit how the scrollmenu action works) I'm looking around Put class.

jade brook May 22, 2018, 2:21 PM

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fired eventhandler filtering for weapon "Put".

opal crater May 22, 2018, 2:25 PM

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I was thinking about changing "place explosive" action to "hold action" type, is this even possible to do it via config editing or would it require a lot of coding?

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Oh, I see that I would have to set useAction =0 on SatchelCharge_Remote_Mag and probably script my own action adding for objects inheriting from it. Damn I hoped it would be simple 😄

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Guess I will check if this is possible with EH, thanks anyway!

stoic lily May 22, 2018, 3:38 PM

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aiRateOfFireDispersion = -35;

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@hot pine is the negative value new?

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so far it was just 0-1 from what i understand: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#aiRateOfFireDispersion.3D1

hot pine May 22, 2018, 4:46 PM

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it was always possible to use negative values

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it's aiRateOfFireDispersion * (random number from 0 to 1)

stoic lily May 22, 2018, 5:04 PM

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yeah my bad

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i still dont get the idea yet though. you could just reduce the base aiRateOfFire (plus random offset ontop) instead of reducing it with this, no?
so whats different with this approach?

hot pine May 22, 2018, 5:26 PM

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and what is your idea ;)?

stoic lily May 22, 2018, 5:52 PM

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timeToShot = aiRateOfFire + aiRateOfFireDispersion * Random<0,1>
5-10 = 5 + 5 * [0-1]
5-10 = 10 + -5 * [0-1]

toxic solar May 22, 2018, 7:00 PM

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So decided yesterday to start playing around with configs, and so the first thing I did was make a new helicopter inheriting off another one where the only diffrence was the armor values and the textures and that worked. So the next thing im trying to do is edit the pilots and copilots camera to have more thermal modes and add weapons to them. This is where im failing a bit, I believe I followed that the link https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference#Inheriting has to say about inheriting , but doesnt work so i was wondering what did I do wrong?

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https://pastebin.com/h8bJBfqN

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Im assuming that I inherted the turret incorrectly

stoic lily May 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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@toxic solar best to look at some samples like BI sample models, or some RHS/CUP/IFA3 configs

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also get an AIO config and study the base classes of cfgVehicles

toxic solar May 22, 2018, 7:19 PM

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cool will look at the rhs ones, and ah wats a AIO config?

narrow swallow May 22, 2018, 7:27 PM

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AllInOne Config info
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/AllInOne_Config
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/191737-updated-all-in-one-config-dumps/
https://github.com/pennyworth12345/ConfigDumpFileIO/releases

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Be handy to get these links pinned in here.

grand zinc May 22, 2018, 7:30 PM

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only the BIF thread is regularly updated. And that's also linked on the wiki. and the bif thread links to the github repo. So you really only need one of the links

narrow swallow May 22, 2018, 7:31 PM

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But the historical value~

thorn leaf May 23, 2018, 1:51 AM

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explosionTime = 10; Can't seem to get this to work on bomb's is there no way to get this to work on bombs for timed fuses? Or any other EZPZ options?

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Is it possible to inherit a turret of a vehicle and then change one property or would I have to define every single property of the turret I want to inherit and then change the one property I need?

livid heath May 23, 2018, 7:01 AM

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You can inherit normally and paste only the changed line so long as your parent definitions are written correctly

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@thorn leaf i wonder if explosiontime is used only in certain simulation types

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 7:20 AM

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I think then im inheriting the class wrong then

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class base_vic;
class new_vic_base: base_vic
{
    class Turrets
    { 
        class MainTurret;  
    };

};
class new_vic:new_vic_base
{
    class Turrets:Turrets
    {
        class MainTurret : MainTurret 
        {
            //code to do, idk like add weapons for example
        };
    };
};
``` Just to confirm, would I inherit like so

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I just followed the turret config refrence and was wondering if its still upto date

hot pine May 23, 2018, 7:50 AM

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https://pastebin.com/iDGG7EvA

Pastebin

class LandVehicle; class Tank: LandVehicle { class NewTurre...

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in case of turrets you need to recreate almost whole inheritance tree

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since if tank is scope = 2 & has only class MainTurret; you will end up with tank without working turret

undone quiver May 23, 2018, 7:53 AM

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When making a ORBAT, is it possible to have multiple top tiers in it? Or can the highest tier only be one icon?

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 8:12 AM

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oh damn so I might have to recreate the whole thing for turrets eh 😭 welp I guess I'll start that when I wake up

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im assuming that I still have to recreate the whole tree for turrets for helicopters as well? my first goal is to just change the gunners weapons

hot pine May 23, 2018, 8:32 AM

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yeah, you will have to recreate it there too

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 8:41 AM

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fun times await me

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Now do I have to redefine all the turrets,or just the turret I want to edit?

strange egret May 23, 2018, 9:20 AM

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you just need the proper inheritance tree, not the parameters

stoic lily May 23, 2018, 12:45 PM

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@toxic solar get a config dump/AIO and delete all the parameters/copy-paste the class structure

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if you are into regex, or teach yourself the basics, this "removes all but XXX": ^(?!.*?(^ *class|XXX)).*\r\n

thorn leaf May 23, 2018, 4:25 PM

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So actually @hot pine I guess the issue isn't the explosiontime. Because I got it to work. I believe I just had it on too high..

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The issue I have now is I want to disable detonation on impact

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 4:25 PM

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ill try and see if I can get a config dump, as for regex I haev no clue what that is XD

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:30 PM

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k so i need some help with getting the dumps, someone posted this link earlier https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/191737-updated-all-in-one-config-dumps/ and has a link to his repo. If I understnad correctly I would take dumpConfig.sqf and put it in like a mission file, put the .dll extension in my arma 3 folder and run for example [configFile >> "CfgVehicles"] call compile preprocessFileLineNumbers "dumpConfig.sqf" in the debug win dow and it should all end up in my clipboard, is that correct?

narrow swallow May 23, 2018, 5:32 PM

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Correct.

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:33 PM

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wonderful ,now what if I get CallExtension 'ConfigDumpFileIO' could not be found in my .rpt file and the game dies

stoic lily May 23, 2018, 5:36 PM

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@toxic solar make sure to disable battleye

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it blocks dlls otherwise

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:36 PM

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oh

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lol

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I will try that

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on a side note I guess,how does ace get its .dll past battleye?

stoic lily May 23, 2018, 5:38 PM

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sent to Bastian from BE to get it whitelisted

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:39 PM

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oh I see

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well heres hoping that I can dump it all now

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Now whats the .zip from the github link I mentioned for? if I have the .sqf in a mission file and the .dll in the arma 3 folder,what would I need the .zip from https://github.com/pennyworth12345/ConfigDumpFileIO/releases/tag/1.0.0 for?

narrow swallow May 23, 2018, 5:51 PM

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You mean Source code (zip)?

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:52 PM

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yea

narrow swallow May 23, 2018, 5:55 PM

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It's the source code, everything that is in that repository.

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 5:58 PM

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oh I see

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okay so I have disabled battleye and I still get the CallExtension 'ConfigDumpFileIO' could not be found in my rpt file, any ideas as to why?

narrow swallow May 23, 2018, 6:10 PM

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What folder did you actually put the dlls in?

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 6:11 PM

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dll/x64

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in the arma 3 root folder

narrow swallow May 23, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Ah... Just put them in the root folder directly

toxic solar May 23, 2018, 6:14 PM

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pffft I thought I should have put them in the folder called dll XD, lets try that

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oh shit,it works 😃

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hahah now I shalll go mad with power and create a helicopter with 1 million armor XD,

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thx for the help

grand zinc May 23, 2018, 7:43 PM

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actually you put them into the @mod ordner. But in your case you don't have one

toxic solar May 24, 2018, 8:41 AM

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okay so for a helicopter config, Ive so far found the properties

cyclicAsideForceCoef = 4;    //Effects Pitch up and down speed
cyclicForwardForceCoef = 2;    //Effects Roll left and right speed
backRotorForceCoef = 1.377;//Effects yaw left and right speed

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now how would I go about finding the properties that deal with the speed/force of collective up and collective down? I looked in the Test_heli_01 config example but it doesnt have anything about that in there

stoic lily May 24, 2018, 9:00 AM

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if you havent done so yet, search in the BI forum or specifically the TKOH section (better with google site search)

light nest May 24, 2018, 11:16 AM

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@toxic solar liftForceCoef

worthy beacon May 24, 2018, 11:37 AM

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hi

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I have a problem with the configs of AGM missiles Of a Airplan

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I cant select the missile for fire

livid heath May 24, 2018, 11:43 AM

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could be a weapon not assigned to use your magazine?

worthy beacon May 24, 2018, 11:47 AM

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no

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i sure assigned the AGM in polygan system

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the missiles loaded and can seen on wings

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but cant select to fire

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i had type the weapon config like other weapons but only this not work

untold temple May 24, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Probably the weapon and ammo have mismatched flightprofiles[] and modes[]

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and @sullen fulcrum - info is generally here https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Missile_flight_profiles

untold temple May 24, 2018, 12:30 PM

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dev branch diagnostic.exe has a "shots" mode that will show everything the bombs and missiles are doing

toxic solar May 24, 2018, 3:27 PM

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@light nest ah thx

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I felt like that had something to do with collective up,but i wasnt sure if it had anything to do with collective down

toxic solar May 25, 2018, 3:02 AM

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@stoic lily question about ur earlier comment today,whats the TKOH section?

stoic lily May 25, 2018, 3:50 AM

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@toxic solar https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/forum/220-take-on-helicopters/

toxic solar May 25, 2018, 3:54 AM

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oh i see

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thank you

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I didnt think that non arma 3 stuff would be relevant here

toxic solar May 25, 2018, 4:36 AM

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now would be save to assume that the plane config ref https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/A3_CfgVehicles_Plane_class_config_reference could help me with helicopter properties?

grand zinc May 25, 2018, 10:39 AM

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@hot pine bug in magazineWells. Inheritance doesn't work.
https://gist.github.com/dedmen/dc980cf8d6b4b719484e2dd8158a7de1#file-magazinewells-cpp-L218
That specifies the Big Stanag556 magwell. Which inherits from the normal https://gist.github.com/dedmen/dc980cf8d6b4b719484e2dd8158a7de1#file-magazinewells-cpp-L133 Stanag556 magwell. But ingame only the Big magazines work. Neither the normal nor the small.
So magazineWell's ignores inherited values

hot pine May 25, 2018, 10:52 AM

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hmm, I will check that later

dry kraken May 26, 2018, 10:51 AM

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where i can get idc or configName lobby and multiplayer servers list dialog?

jade brook May 26, 2018, 10:54 AM

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🤔 ?

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lobby: RscDisplayMultiplayerSetup

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idc: IDD_MP_SETUP

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server list, this one is a control, not a display: IDC_MULTI_TAB_SERVERS

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In quick play dialog: IDC_MP_QUICK_SHOW_SERVERS

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IDD_MP_QUICK_PLAY

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Other idd idk, probably the main menu.

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To get these I just go to
"P:\a3\ui_f\hpp\defineResincl.inc"
or where ever you have Arma unpacked.

dry kraken May 26, 2018, 11:26 AM

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@jade brook thank you!

dry kraken May 26, 2018, 3:14 PM

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i try'ed make RscControlsGroup in editor. Place controls group and controls. But i have problem. I can't select controls to make coords to my controlsGroup

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@dusty epoch how you store controls to groups?

solar fox May 26, 2018, 4:36 PM

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arma physics doesnt has any "Rubber" base stuff or?

valid ridge May 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

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How do you setup categories for module attributes?

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Basically like the System specifs --> tabs

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The basic module framework guide doesn't explain it

dusty epoch May 27, 2018, 12:30 PM

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@dry kraken what do you mean ?

dry kraken May 27, 2018, 12:48 PM

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@dusty epoch controls groups in your smartphone script

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you placed controls to group with gui editor?

boreal heart May 27, 2018, 1:31 PM

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@sullen fulcrum Exact same problem I've had with my FC37 since I started the restoration project on it like 2 years ago haha. I just cant get the damn gun to work for the life of me

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The gunpod appears on the aircraft, however it appears kind of inside it, and when it shoots the rounds just drop straight down

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Strange

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I havent touched it in a while so not sure really

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Prior to making the gunpod a pylon thing, it worked fine

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After that, nah not working properly haha

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@sullen fulcrum This is my config for the gun

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https://pastebin.com/CrB92nLv

dusty epoch May 27, 2018, 2:00 PM

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@dry kraken with stupid amounts of patients

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and no that wasn't a spelling mistake xD

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xD

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think i found the issue

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#include "Lega\Lega_Handler.hpp";

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i think i know whats wrong here xD

dry kraken May 27, 2018, 3:27 PM

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for now i use tables instead groups 😄

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for me this way faster xD

dry kraken May 27, 2018, 6:55 PM

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@dusty epoch
sorry, I incorrectly constructed the question. My English is terrible. I tried to place a group and already in the editor to move it to control. As far as I remember, there was a function of converting coordinates to a group. I imported the dialog into the editor, but I can not move controls to the group, the editor sets the group as the very first layer. I thought that you were faced with this problem. Sorry to bother you. Have a nice day.

livid heath May 27, 2018, 7:27 PM

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@boreal heart @sullen fulcrum if yo usend me your model and config i'll look at it o nthursday (am away til then)

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need aircraft + weapon model, configs for aircraft and weapons, model.cfg for same

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should be a 5 min job to fix

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but depends on seeing all of it in same space

dusty epoch May 27, 2018, 7:57 PM

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@dry kraken CtrlCreate ?

velvet mesa May 27, 2018, 8:16 PM

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hello!

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anyone knows the default pistol animation?

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https://gyazo.com/873dc769d5cdd36f6f9cc283fea2d36b

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I have a pistol on a Launcher position and it looks weird :S

untold temple May 27, 2018, 8:49 PM

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default pistol animation wont work

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launcher slot weapons use inverse kinematics between the hands, and the Launcher bone

velvet mesa May 27, 2018, 9:00 PM

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so its not possible to put a pistol on launcher slot?

jade brook May 27, 2018, 9:01 PM

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No, launchers go into the launcher slot. Pistols go into the pistol slot.

velvet mesa May 27, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Andd if i have made a custom launcher that looks like a pistol?

jade brook May 27, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Then it would be a launcher, but I'm pretty sure postures for launchers are fixed, so it'd look weird.

untold temple May 27, 2018, 10:15 PM

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it's possible to put something in the launcher slot that looks like a pistol, sure. What I'm saying is, the animation that BIS made will not work, because the relative position of the hand and launcher bones is not what you'd expect. Since the launcher is supposed to be on the character's back when he is holding a pistol.

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You'd have to make an entirely new animation with the hands posed in the pistol position, but the launcher bone moved to the correct place near the hands

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and what commy says about the character move set not being the same for launchers and pistols, is true

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movement etc. will not be the same as a "real" pistol

dry kraken May 28, 2018, 5:18 AM

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@dusty epoch I wanted to know how you recount the positions under the group, because in the group the coordinates differ from the usual ones.

dusty epoch May 28, 2018, 6:51 AM

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i push the old controls into an array and fetch the last control from the array and work out the positions from there

boreal heart May 28, 2018, 7:01 AM

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@sullen fulcrum Where can I find this Zasleh selection? Want tomake sure I got the right one

dry kraken May 28, 2018, 7:52 AM

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@dusty epoch ty

austere prism May 28, 2018, 7:57 AM

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Not sure if this should be in #arma3_scripting or here. I want to create a macro for an item.

#define ITEM(ID) \
  class synixe_item_##ID : synixe_item { \
    scope = 1; \
    displayName = "Item ID"; \
    descriptionShort = "Unique Item ID"; \
  }

How can I get the ID inside the quotes to actually be the ID passed

grand zinc May 28, 2018, 8:00 AM

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use single quotes not double quotes

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or use a QUOTE macro

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#define QUOTE(x) #x
descriptionShort = QUOTE(Unique Item ID); \

hot pine May 28, 2018, 8:02 AM

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    descriptionShort = Unique Item ##ID; \```

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some thing like this?

austere prism May 28, 2018, 8:06 AM

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I didn't realize you didn't need quotes. That works perfectly, thanks.

grand zinc May 28, 2018, 8:07 AM

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you shouldn't even need the ## @hot pine
displayName = Item ID; after preprocessing -> displayName = Item 15;
And then on binariziation the quotes are put there automatically by most binariziers.

hot pine May 28, 2018, 8:10 AM

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you are right, but might be useful to know that such thing exist if someone decide to combine it with i.e. No##ID

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#.23.23

PreProcessor Commands

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@austere prism - I would recommend reading this page - you should find plenty of interesting info there

desert wing May 28, 2018, 9:00 AM

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I'm getting the No entry bin\config.bin/CfgWeapons/ItemInfo.scope error on game start with my weapon addon I'm working on (not blocking, just appears on the main menu and is dismissable and lets me continue), what's the most likely fixes? If I comment out itemInfo in my config and it replaced the same error with WeaponSlotsInfo.scope

grand zinc May 28, 2018, 9:06 AM

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WeaponSlotsInfo and ItemInfo don't belong in CfgWeapons. The game scans CfgWeapons for... Well.. weapons.
And errors out if the scope is not specified. IteInfo/WeaponSlotsInfo don't have a scope

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https://configs.arma3.ru/162.137494/configFile/CfgWeapons.html
Example https://configs.arma3.ru/162.137494/configFile/CfgWeapons/arifle_Mk20_F.html inherits it's WeaponSlotsInfo from mk20_base_F which inherits from Rifle_Base_F which defines WeaponSlotsInfo your weapon probably also inherits from Rifle. So you should get WeaponSlotsInfo from there.

desert wing May 28, 2018, 9:07 AM

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aha

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cool, thanks!

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Nailed it, thanks so much!

boreal heart May 28, 2018, 10:34 AM

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@sullen fulcrum Cheers mate, will have a look at it in due time!

storm dagger May 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Dumb question.. is it possible to attach a weapon to the targeting cameras along with the laser?

livid heath May 28, 2018, 6:03 PM

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@sullen fulcrum that seems like a dubious action. It may be that removing your plane zasleh is necessary in which case you must delete bothe the proxy triangle and the selextion together

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Dont leave a broken muzzle flash proxy in your plane model

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You can name your muzzleflash in your gunpod model whatever you like so long as you add it to the model.cfg and the pylon weapon config too

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I have wing cannons on the skyraider that use muzzle flashes in the plane model and minigun pods added to pylons with differently named muzzleflashes

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So long as the two dont conflict u should be good to go

marsh sandal May 28, 2018, 7:48 PM

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could somebody please give me a hint, why this is not overriding the modelsides: https://pastebin.com/0HaQUTEn

hot pine May 28, 2018, 8:05 PM

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    class i_g_soldier_f: soldiergb``` wrong inheritance

toxic solar May 28, 2018, 9:27 PM

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for helicopters, does enginePower effect anything or is that for land based vehicles only?

marsh sandal May 28, 2018, 10:12 PM

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thx!

uncut wagon May 29, 2018, 6:45 PM

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is it possible to create a module for eden, which only allows the mission maker edit the A size area and not the B value? I am basically wanting a module that is always either a perfect circle or a square.

valid ridge May 29, 2018, 7:13 PM

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Don't have a B Value

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and just use A twice

uncut wagon May 29, 2018, 7:16 PM

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And how would i do that? I am using the parameter "canSetArea=1" which enables the visible area and both A and B

tranquil marlin May 29, 2018, 9:48 PM

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How do you fix if a helmet from a mod goes into the crotch of the player?

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any headgear rather?

tranquil marlin May 29, 2018, 10:28 PM

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so alright

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Probably shouldn't bother trying to fix it

lethal crag May 30, 2018, 12:34 AM

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Question, I've gotten practically everything set up for a faction mod that adds special units that use other mod equipment (dependencies and permission already set in place), the unit spawns with most of their gear, but I don't understand how to add attachments to the weapon using only weapons[] = {SMA_M4afg_Tan, Throw, Put};

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I've got all the necessary classnames for everything, just no idea on how it handles attachments.

untold temple May 30, 2018, 12:40 AM

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you have to make extra weapon classes with linkeditems for them to be given to units

lethal crag May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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oof.
Alright, so I'll need to make a cfgWeapons, create the class with linkeditems, then include it in weapons[] = ?

untold temple May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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yep

lethal crag May 30, 2018, 12:41 AM

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alright, seems a bit more doable.

austere prism May 30, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I am trying to add ACE interaction to a whiteboard map. I am using

class ThingX;
class Land_MapBoard_F: ThingX {
  class ACE_Actions {
    class ACE_MainActions {
      class openMap {
        displayName = "Open Map";
        statement = "openMap true";
      };
    };
  };
};
``` with no luck, anyone know what I need to do to get it working?

austere prism May 30, 2018, 5:20 AM

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I was able to figure it out

jade brook May 30, 2018, 5:31 AM

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It's missing a condition = "true";. For some reason, "true" is not the default value.

livid heath May 30, 2018, 10:04 AM

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@tranquil marlin you need a model.cfg with a minimum default entry for your headgear so it is tied to the bi skeleton

tranquil marlin May 30, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Yeah

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Reverse engineering this stuff and learning about how it's done, it was binarized not encrypted 🤦🏿

strange egret May 30, 2018, 12:55 PM

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there are headgear samples...

tranquil marlin May 30, 2018, 1:44 PM

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I'll look at those and compare the model cfg

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just to see if there is something missing

livid heath May 30, 2018, 4:54 PM

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well, my question was really this - do you have a model.cfg for your headgear?

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99% of the time you get placement issues in a headgear item it is missing the model.cfg entry for that specific model.

strange egret May 30, 2018, 5:20 PM

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autocenter

placid ether May 30, 2018, 7:57 PM

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Could someone provide some help making custom combo boxes for the editor. I currently have

    {
        class Attributes
        {
            class Combo;
            class MyComboBox: Combo
            {
                class Items
                {
                    class Item1
                    {
                        text = "Item1";
                        data = "Item1";
                    };
                    class Item2
                    {
                        text = "Item2";
                        data = "Item2";
                    };
                };
            };
        };
    };```
And then have the attribute set to use to this custom control. But what I end up with is a combo box with the items "enabled" and "disabled". This is how it appears to be specified on the wiki, but clearly i'm missing something.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Eden_Editor:_Configuring_Attributes:_Controls#Combo

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I've been looking at the config viewer to take a look at some of the existing combobox. These all have the "Items" class at "Combo">>"Controls">>"Value">>"Item" but I haven't been able to figure out the inheritance correctly and keep overriding other required sub-classes.

tranquil marlin May 30, 2018, 9:03 PM

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@livid heath yeah I got the cfg

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what was weird though is that in the past it worked but as of a recent update (between the mission pack dlc and tanks)

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then it got broken

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it doesn't have autocenter in the cfg

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 9:41 PM

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if I wanted to change the muzzle flash of a weapon to someother weapons muzzle flash, would that be located under CfgWeapons or CfgMagainze?

grand zinc May 30, 2018, 9:42 PM

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afaik that's in the model. If not then CfgWeapons

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 9:42 PM

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oh so I cant change a the muzzle flash of a pistol to say idk a 30mm autocannon for example

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unless I edit the model

grand zinc May 30, 2018, 9:43 PM

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not sure. I'd expect the flash to be in the model but I don't know if it really is

livid heath May 30, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Its a proxy in the weapon model

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@tranquil marlin add a property autocenter with value 0 to your models geometry lod

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Headgear is a proxy model in the character model

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All proxies should have autocenter 0

untold temple May 30, 2018, 9:52 PM

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You can change it if the pistol accepts suppressors

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you'd make a dummy muzzle attachment model and assign a new muzzle flash through that

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 9:54 PM

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ah thats a shame I cant change it in config

livid heath May 30, 2018, 9:56 PM

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Cunning!

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 10:22 PM

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so question about adding a gun to show up in virtual arsenal. afik or can see from the ADR-97 offical mod, all I would have to do is make the weapon in CfgWeapons and do the following in cfgPatrches

class CfgPatches
{
    class name_of_mod_folder
    {    
        units[]=
        {
            ""
        };
        weapons[]=
        {
            //class name of the weapon
        };
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[]=
        {
            //whatever addons I require
        };
        
    };
    
};```

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is that correct? or am I missing anything else, as the weapon doesnt show up in arsenal

untold temple May 30, 2018, 10:24 PM

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needs to be scope = 2, and if it's inheriting from another gun, it needs the baseweapon parameter replacing with its own classname

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 10:27 PM

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okay I had the scope,but not the baseWeapon param,will try that

toxic solar May 30, 2018, 10:45 PM

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and it works,thx

livid heath May 30, 2018, 11:15 PM

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Also it has to be the base weapon with no pre-added attachments. For example if you made an m60 which has a bipod and made your base class have an attached bipod your weapon would not show in the arsenal

untold temple May 30, 2018, 11:27 PM

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you can have attachments on a baseweapon

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muzzle attachments work at least

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all the AK-74s in RHS have a default muzzle attachment through arsenal

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dunno about scopes etc.

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 1:39 AM

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Now about attachments, I assume that for attachments to work they have to be defined on the model as well

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 3:42 AM

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So say I have two files as such

mymod\mypob.pbo\config.cpp
mymod\mypbo.pbo\myfolder\myfile.cpp
``` and I wanted `config.cpp` to have a `#include` that would include `myfile.cpp` 
and so Im doing the following
```cpp
#include "\myfolder\myfile.cpp"
``` but that inst working. Is there something im missing?

stoic lily May 31, 2018, 4:29 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#.23include

PreProcessor Commands

stoic lily May 31, 2018, 5:04 AM

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is it possible to set a fuse time for bombs? by default they explode on impact AFAIK
can this be done via submuntions for example? or would it require scripting

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 5:09 AM

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oh I see,I had a \ in the front that didnt allow it to work

livid heath May 31, 2018, 7:51 AM

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@stoic lily before the new cbu functions i had a firedEH on the plane that monitored the bomb and spawned a bunch of random mines including a timed one to deter cleanup ops

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The timed one ran a script at init that made it explode after a time

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Worked well

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I think the way native ammo simulation works you have a single opportunity to make something happen -on impact, unless it is a subminition dispenser in which case it happens sooner than impact. Either way the munition is destroyed and then explosion effects damage crater etc etc are all triggered

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So you could in theory make a subminition dispenser that spawns an identical looking model 1 foot off the ground with no fx or damage and have an initEH or crater fx on it that spawns a timed explosion function

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@untold temple thats an interesting note thanks, we had to make bases for all our weapons as they wouldnt show in arsenal for example if they came supplied with a removable scope

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They were scopearsenal=2 and listed in weapons[]

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For example i made a camo skin variant m16 with a scope and suppressor. I had to make a base class without either in order for it to be available in the arsenal

hot pine May 31, 2018, 8:12 AM

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no baseWeapon param most likely

boreal heart May 31, 2018, 8:36 AM

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Would a bomb fuse timer be hard to implement into the game?

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Pretty much what War Thunder has

undone quiver May 31, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Do you still need to define a driver mem point for a drone?

livid heath May 31, 2018, 11:07 AM

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@hot pine what is a baseweapon param?

hot pine May 31, 2018, 11:09 AM

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param for filtering weapons in virtual arsenal

livid heath May 31, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Ok interesting what does it look like?

grand zinc May 31, 2018, 11:14 AM

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just baseWeapon = "classname"

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that's used for weapons with pre-attached attachments

livid heath May 31, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Thanks!

marsh sandal May 31, 2018, 6:44 PM

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hi, im trying to let i_soldier_f wear uniforms of every side.. anyone can give me a hint, why its not working ? https://pastebin.com/J8g4KTF3

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 7:04 PM

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so when adding a eventhandler, say the fired EH in a config, when im giving the file path to the .sqf, is the file path relative to the place that the EH is assigned, so for me the config.cpp like so?

myfolder/script.sqf

or is it relative to the addon so i would maybe have to do something like so

mymod/mypbo.pbo/myfolder.script.sqf

grand zinc May 31, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Why try to remake something that someone else already successfuly made? @marsh sandal

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It's a bitset. Not an array

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https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/optionals/nouniformrestrictions/CfgVehicles.hpp

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@toxic solar The file path is the full file path. It's not relative to anything

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It's PREFIX/path/file.sqf

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 7:06 PM

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I think I get it

marsh sandal May 31, 2018, 7:46 PM

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ah did not know that. uniforms unlocked didnt work

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will try that thx

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 10:06 PM

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so I have EH in one of my classes, and whenever I go into zeus I get an error saying
no entry for bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/EventHandlers.scope
now I didnt know that there was a scope for the EH as none of the examples ive seen had them ,now would I fix this eror by adding scopeCurator?

vernal sequoia May 31, 2018, 10:07 PM

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silly question....... "//" or "///" for commenting?

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cause when i hotkey single line comment its just the "//", but arma samples notes are "///"

untold temple May 31, 2018, 10:10 PM

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// works for single line

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/* some comment */ works for block commenting

grand zinc May 31, 2018, 10:16 PM

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@toxic solar you have CfgVehicles>>EventHandlers somewhere. That's wrong.

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you tried to create a vehicle called EventHandlers. Instead of creating eventhandlers for a vehicle.

toxic solar May 31, 2018, 10:19 PM

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oh I see, that makes sense, I thought I could get away by just saying class EventHandler with out having it in side the base class

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 1:24 AM

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Is there anything that effects on the move accuracy of a weapon? does dispersion also effect on the move accuracy or just stationary?

undone quiver Jun 1, 2018, 5:40 AM

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So when inheriting the properties of another class. Like say taking the Y-32 to make a new aircraft. How does the related turrets work within inheritance? Like do I need to define them blank in the new class, or do they not carry over?

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 5:57 AM

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what I did for that ^, is I got like the config dump, got the full inheritance from almost top to bottom, so for Y-32 I had

class Plane_Base_F: Plane
{
//Whatever is inside
};

class VTOL_Base_F: Plane_Base_F
{
//Whatever is inside
};

class VTOL_02_base_F: VTOL_Base_F
{
//whatever is inside
}

``` and that gets the whole turret tree....idk if thats the best way tho

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and then have like

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class newVtol:VTOL_02_base_F
{
//whatever inside
}

undone quiver Jun 1, 2018, 6:05 AM

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So lets say I wanted the Y-32 without the turret inheritance, what would that look like?

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 6:05 AM

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like no turrets at all

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?

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class VTOL_02_base_F: VTOL_Base_F
{
          class turrets
          {

          };
};

Im guessing

undone quiver Jun 1, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Yea that looks like what I need

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lots of needing the flight profiles, less needing the turret stuff 😄

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 6:07 AM

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XD

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has anyone ever seen the following error?

bin\config.bin.hitArmor
```Im guessing it has something to do with `hitArmor` in cfgAmmos for one of my classes that I added in but when I double checked to see if it had anything ,but it had something assinged to it that I know works.
so there any other possible area I should look for outside of CfgAmmo, or is it something just wrong with my ammo class

stoic lily Jun 1, 2018, 7:09 AM

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@livid heath thanks for the tips 👍

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:10 AM

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@toxic solar - shotgun ammo?

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:12 AM

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yep

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shotgun ammo

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:14 AM

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Arma bug, it's already fixed on devbranch

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:15 AM

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oh shit ,whats the issue with it?

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Theres actualy no vinilla shotguns are there?

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:15 AM

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if you don't want to wait you can fix it in your ammo cfg

    class B_12Gauge_Pellets;
    class rhs_ammo_m576_buckshot: B_12Gauge_Pellets
    {
        hit = 8;
        indirectHit = 0;
        indirectHitRange = 0.6;
        class HitEffects
        {
            Hit_Foliage_green = "ImpactLeavesGreen";
            Hit_Foliage_Dead = "ImpactLeavesDead";
            Hit_Foliage_Green_big = "ImpactLeavesGreenBig";
            Hit_Foliage_Palm = "ImpactLeavesPalm";
            Hit_Foliage_Pine = "ImpactLeavesPine";
            hitFoliage = "ImpactLeaves";
            hitGlass = "ImpactGlass";
            hitGlassArmored = "ImpactGlassThin";
            hitWood = "ImpactWood";
            hitMetal = "ImpactMetal";
            hitMetalPlate = "ImpactMetal";
            hitBuilding = "ImpactPlaster";
            hitPlastic = "ImpactPlastic";
            hitRubber = "ImpactRubber";
            hitConcrete = "ImpactConcrete";
            hitMan = "ImpactEffectsBlood";
            hitGroundSoft = "ImpactEffectsSmall";
            hitGroundHard = "ImpactEffectsHardGround";
            hitWater = "ImpactEffectsWater";
            hitVirtual = "ImpactMetal";
        };
    };```

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there are no shotguns but I guess you are inheriting from B_12Gauge_Pellets

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:16 AM

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yep

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is that from cba? arma 2?

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:16 AM

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huh?

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what do you mean?

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:17 AM

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I mean,what mod has B_12Gauge_Pellets or is something thats in arma 3, but there no weapons for it

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:17 AM

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I wrote it's arma bug 😉

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there were some test of shotguns in A3 alpha times but all of them proved to be flawed and therefore cancelled

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:18 AM

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oh I get that now

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so cutting room floor stuff? i think thats the term idk XD. Actualy since we are on the topic of shotguns, doe dispersion effect them like it does for normal guns or is that part also weird

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:22 AM

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there is another param for that

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:23 AM

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oh really? whats it called? oh also thx for the help with the hitarmor thing

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ah w8,ima guess it

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fireSpreadAngle right

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:27 AM

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yup

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but it need to be defined in cfgWeapons

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not in ammo or magazine as wiki suggest

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:30 AM

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oofff

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rip the wiki

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I assume it has to be in the firemode class like where dispersion is

hot pine Jun 1, 2018, 7:48 AM

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no, it's defined per muzzle

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 7:59 AM

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oh okay

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well thx for the help yo

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 8:18 AM

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actually one more thing for shotguns,is there away to change the number of pellets for the shotgun? or is it fixed?

livid heath Jun 1, 2018, 8:25 AM

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Its fixed afaik

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 8:35 AM

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damn thats a shame, oh well

lean minnow Jun 1, 2018, 10:13 AM

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hi there

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can any1 help me with some config stuff?

#

i have couple of questions

grand zinc Jun 1, 2018, 10:15 AM

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There are 2000 people online right now.

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No one will bother to ask you what question you have. So just ask away

boreal heart Jun 1, 2018, 11:45 AM

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@sullen fulcrum Have you tried

maxBrakeTorque = ##;
maxHandBrakeTorque = ##;

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Under cfgWheels for PhysX wheels

#

Also your solution of deleting the Zashleh thing didnt work 😦

#

I'm taking up Robs offer and seeing if he can fix it directly.

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Deleting the Zashleh thing just made the gun spawn inside the hull as usual with muzzle flash and thats about it

dim lintel Jun 1, 2018, 3:22 PM

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guys i want override CfgRoles >> Default

#

class CfgRoles
{
    class Default;
    class Arsenal: Default
    {
        displayName = "Arsenal";
        icon = "\A3\Ui_f\data\GUI\Cfg\Ranks\general_gs.paa";
    };
};

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it's that correct?

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this would create a new role extended from Default huh?

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but i want modify Default, don't know if that's possible

stoic lily Jun 1, 2018, 5:13 PM

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class CfgRoles
{
    class Default
    {
        displayName = "Arsenal";
        icon = "\A3\Ui_f\data\GUI\Cfg\Ranks\general_gs.paa";
    };
};```

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but bad idea to do so

dim lintel Jun 1, 2018, 6:23 PM

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this not working

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it will say "already defined"

stoic lily Jun 1, 2018, 6:52 PM

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where? post your config and rpt

dim lintel Jun 1, 2018, 6:58 PM

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the server don't even start

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there pop up a windows window

toxic solar Jun 1, 2018, 10:14 PM

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So if I wanted to change the reload time of a weapon, would I use magazineReloadTime or what I have to change the animation

spare night Jun 2, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Any suggestions on editing physx on my su25 to stop an issue, does a bouncing left to right when at 170kmph on the ground?

hazy monolith Jun 2, 2018, 2:52 AM

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Can anybody tell if there is some actual user-friednly tool whether online/offline to browse configs, like AllInOne configs? Ty.

toxic solar Jun 2, 2018, 3:12 AM

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u mean open a all in one config?

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like notepad++? or the arma 3 config viewer?

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so if I assing a eventhandler in a config, can I remove that event handler later on using scripts?

barren umbra Jun 2, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Ok so there are scripted bombs that you can set damage for. Would it be possible to edit the base configs for missiles and such in order to add an ability to set damage to 0 for anything that inherits from that?

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I'm messing around with an APS script and currently I'm forced to spawn a blocker object in order to detonate the projectile (I don't want to just spawn a small explosion effect).

hazy monolith Jun 2, 2018, 3:14 PM

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@toxic solar Yeah, something like a Config Viewer. Notepad++ is fine, but its mostly useful for editing case not reading (because of folding and data size ofc).

toxic solar Jun 2, 2018, 3:15 PM

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w8 so whats wrong with using notepad++ for viewing? no colors?

hazy monolith Jun 2, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Its nothing about it to be wrong, I do use sublime for that case. Im talking about visual ease like on this outdated russian web https://configs.arma3.ru/162.137494/configFile/CfgWeapons.html

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Just can't find any author to buyout this web-tool or any similar offline app.

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Kinda not much common with that stuff.

livid heath Jun 2, 2018, 4:56 PM

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Hi @barren umbra whats APS?

barren umbra Jun 2, 2018, 6:05 PM

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@livid heath Active Protection System, it destroys HEAT shells, missiles and rockets before it hits the tank. I'm fixing/working on a hard-kill type that destroys the projectile. There are also soft-kill types that cause missiles to lose the lock, that can also be scripted, I already done something like that by mistake.

round kernel Jun 2, 2018, 6:54 PM

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Anyone know how to add HuntIR from ACE to a GL?

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Idk what the classname is for the magazine

jade brook Jun 2, 2018, 6:57 PM

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ACE_HuntIR_M203

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https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/docs/wiki/framework/huntIR-framework.md

hazy monolith Jun 2, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Can anyone remind me some scripted command to return OS type? thanks.

woeful stirrup Jun 2, 2018, 9:24 PM

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@toxic solar I believe magazineReloadTime is only used in cases where there is no animation, like on vehicle coaxial MGs. If there is an animation, it determines magazine reload time.

toxic solar Jun 2, 2018, 9:25 PM

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thats wat I feared

untold temple Jun 2, 2018, 9:32 PM

#

hmm, I thought the reload animation .rtm was always normalised from 0 to 1 so played for the duration of the config time

grand zinc Jun 2, 2018, 9:32 PM

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@hazy monolith productInfo.. Why are you asking about script in #arma3_config ?

undone quiver Jun 2, 2018, 10:05 PM

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What does a HEAT round 2nd penetrator do if used on buildings? Like does it just despawn, or will it spawn after going through the building?

hazy monolith Jun 2, 2018, 10:42 PM

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@grand zinc Damn, wrong channel 👀

lethal crag Jun 2, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Inheritance question, I'm making a faction mod. And I've been trying to use inheritance to grab a rifle variant but seem to have gotten lost as to how to go back layers of inheritance whilst keeping the variant I want.

"SMA_M4afg","SMA_M4_BASE","SMA_556_RIFLEBASE","SMA_AssaultBase","mk20_base_F"

Those are the layers I've gone through
and here is all I'm trying to do in cfgWeapons.hpp form:

class cfgWeapons
{
    class Vehicle_Crew_M4: SMA_M4afg
    {
        scope = 2;
        displayName = "SMA M4";
        class LinkedItems
        {
            class LinkedItemsOptic
            {
                slot = "CowsSlot";
                item = "SMA_eotech552_3XDOWN_des";
            };
            /*   
            class LinkedItemsMuzzle
            {
                slot = "MuzzleSlot";
                item = "muzzle_mas_snds_SMc";
            };
            */
            class LinkedItemsAcc
            {
                slot = "PointerSlot";
                item = "SMA_SFFL_TAN";
            };
        };
    };
};

lethal crag Jun 3, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Scratch that request, I figured out how dumb I was being and may have forgotten to declare the external base class

desert wing Jun 3, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Hey y'all, I'm trying to add some custom grenades. I've got them showing up as items in the editor/virtual arsenal and the player's inventory, but then you're unable to select them in the top right menu in-game and can't throw them. I had a look in config viewer and it's looks like the muzzles aren't being appended in the Throw class. Anyone got any ideas on what might be causing it? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  class Default;
  class GrenadeLauncher;
  class Throw : GrenadeLauncher {
      muzzles[] += {"sp_smokegrenade_muzzle","sp_grenade_muzzle"};
      class ThrowMuzzle;
      class sp_smokegrenade_muzzle : ThrowMuzzle {
        magazines[] = {"sp_mk4a_smokeGrenade","sp_mk4b_smokeGrenade"};
      };
      class sp_grenade_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle {
        magazines[] = {"sp_l2a1_grenade"};
      };
  };
};```

jade brook Jun 3, 2018, 7:49 AM

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@desert wing You have to add A3_Data_F_Tank_Loadorder to requiredAddons[] in CfgPatches, otherwise your config patch is loaded before A3_Weapons_F from the base game, and the muzzles you added are overwritten by the base games array, as BI is using = and not += like you are.

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Also, delete class Default;.

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Everywhere. You will break some modules otherwise (at least when you place it inside CfgVehicles), due to horrendous scripting of the module framework by BI.

desert wing Jun 3, 2018, 8:20 AM

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Ahh thanks so much! Nailed it!

fathom thorn Jun 3, 2018, 11:07 AM

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Hi guys. Anybody know if ladders work on vehicles?

stoic lily Jun 3, 2018, 11:08 AM

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@fathom thorn maybe try attachTo a ladder object

jade brook Jun 3, 2018, 11:09 AM

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Since the deployed tactical ladder of ACE appears to be a building, I would conclude that ladders only work on the simulation type of buildings.
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/addons/tacticalladder/CfgVehicles.hpp#L39-L40

fathom thorn Jun 3, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Ok yeah Ill just attach one then. Thanks

lethal crag Jun 3, 2018, 4:14 PM

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so, been slowly making progress on this, backpack is finished and stuffed full of the appropriate items.
Next up is uniform/vest.
Is it feasible/possible to use TransportItems and TransportMagazines with a vest in cfgWeapons, or is there some other strange way I have to do that?

barren umbra Jun 3, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Whats the classname for the ordinance you can use setDamage on? I want to poke around tat stuff, but I can't find the classname now

undone quiver Jun 4, 2018, 5:11 AM

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What does canHideDriver = -1; do?

hot pine Jun 4, 2018, 7:11 AM

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@undone quiver
// -1 default, 0 false, 1 true

undone quiver Jun 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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What does it do exactly? Sorry couldn't find documentation on it

hot pine Jun 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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turn in/out

hot pine Jun 4, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@hearty sandal - look what I found in game source
simulation = "shotLaser"; minTimeToLive = 1;

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it was introduced in 2010 to RV 😄

regal gate Jun 4, 2018, 9:32 AM

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Star Wars mod confirmed 👀

muted olive Jun 4, 2018, 11:26 AM

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What config parameters affects ballistics with simulation=“shotRocket” ?

hot pine Jun 4, 2018, 12:55 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_Properties duuuh, for so many years I was wondering why min/maxPhase wasn't working - reason was bad parameter name

Model Config

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corrected it and it seems to be quite handy for loops

stoic lily Jun 4, 2018, 1:01 PM

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correct name: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Model_Config&type=revision&diff=107972&oldid=107846

hearty sandal Jun 4, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Oo @hot pine I wonder if I have seen that before. Cant remember.. xP Is there any relation to the laser pointer mechanics and the IR visible beam? If there is I may have explored using that before but I think I never was able to weaponize it 😄

hot pine Jun 4, 2018, 3:46 PM

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no, it's sort of extending "tracer" from barrel till intersection

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and it applies damage to soldiers (there is even nice condition in code for shooting through glass without damaging it)

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but it seems also to be hardcoded to 100 meters only @hearty sandal

hearty sandal Jun 4, 2018, 3:47 PM

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oh that wont do xD

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would have been nice to have engine solution though

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my beams go something like 5km or so if I remember right

strange egret Jun 4, 2018, 4:25 PM

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isnt that related to laserpointer? IR also only shows for 100m i think.

stoic lily Jun 4, 2018, 5:34 PM

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one can change the drawing distance of the (IR) laser

sullen fulcrum Jun 5, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Is there a way to make it so clothing doesn't take damage from actual fires within the config?

jade brook Jun 5, 2018, 3:33 AM

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No.

barren umbra Jun 5, 2018, 9:58 AM

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Does anyone knows what resource/dialog/whatever, that grayish overlay you can see around the middle is? I did my best to remove the vignette effect, by using an addon, and it did go away, but when I changed the UI size I noticed that there is still something overlaid on my screen. I want to get rid of that as well.
https://i.imgur.com/D5XECgW.jpg

hot pine Jun 5, 2018, 10:00 AM

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low stamina splash?

hot pine Jun 5, 2018, 5:04 PM

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Proxy direction is wrong?

thorn leaf Jun 5, 2018, 6:19 PM

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maxMainRotorDive = 15;
neutralMainRotorDive = -5;
minBackRotorDive = -15;
maxBackRotorDive = 9;
neutralBackRotorDive = -5;```
can anyone explain those?

hot pine Jun 5, 2018, 6:23 PM

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where did you get those values?

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nvm, they were designed for case like chinook were back rotor can tilt too

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values are in degrees

hot pine Jun 5, 2018, 6:47 PM

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as for laser - it's hardcoded to 100 meters (and yes, IR range can be changed via config - atm it is 1750 m iirc)

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there is even model to test "laser" tech \a3\data_f\laserBeam.p3d

thorn leaf Jun 5, 2018, 6:52 PM

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What should I do to drop altitude quicker with helos on SFM

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thanks btw @hot pine

desert wing Jun 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

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In terms of playing nice with mission generating scripts/etc. is it generally better when making factions for Groups to have custom CfgGroups categories under a single faction (e.g. an Army faction with Marines and Light Infantry categories) or multiple factions with the standard CfgGroups categories (e.g. a light infantry faction and a marines faction which each have Infantry in them)?

jade brook Jun 6, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Probably as close to what vanilla does as possible.

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 10:54 AM

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ok my random config question of the week follows:

        class Presets
        {
            class CAS
            {
                displayName = "CAS";
                attachment[] = 
                {
                    "uns_pylonRack_12Rnd_Rocket_Zuni_FRAG", //want on turret -1 (driver)
                    "uns_pylonRack_12Rnd_Rocket_Zuni_FRAG", //want on turret -1 (driver)
                    "uns_pylonRack_a7_6Rnd_Bomb_Napalm_500", //want on turret 0 (gunner)
                    "uns_pylonRack_a7_6Rnd_Bomb_Napalm_500",//want on turret 0 (gunner)
                    "uns_pylonRack_a7_6Rnd_Bomb_MK82snake"//want on turret 0 (gunner)
                };
            };
};

is there any way in class Presets to specify the turret to apply the pylon magazine to?

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I can see in the 3den editor yo ucan choose the turret icon in the dropdown menu next to the magazine options, and in the default options you have class pylon1 { maxweight = 1600; hardpoints[] = { "uns_a6_wing_o" }; attachment = "uns_pylonRack_a7_6Rnd_Bomb_MK82snake"; UIposition[] = {0.55,0.35}; priority = 7; turret[] = {0};//gunner -------------------THIS bay = -1; };

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has anyone got a working set of presets wit hdifferent munitions for pilot and gunner on a 2 seat aircraft?

untold temple Jun 6, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I don't think switching ownership works in presets or magazines. Only the vehicle pylon

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 1:02 PM

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ok thanks. damn and blast lol

untold temple Jun 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Means one could do it with the Zeus presets classes I guess, just not automatically through Eden attributes. But I imagine if people are competent enough to change the loadout in Eden, they're competent enough to manually set ownership for appropriate weapons

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 1:36 PM

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yeah i added a script to in-mission game that reads the presets, and allows you to select one if near to a truck

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so to use that in a 2 seater easily, i'd like the presets to have some way of managing the turret its applied to

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i guess it isnt supported though i nthe native code

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main issue is rockets

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hrm. i guess i could modify my code to check for a rocketpod class and apply it to the pilot turret.

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but i'm unsure of whether the pylon classes having turret[]= {}; would override/ force the pylons to be owned by one turret or another.

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will have t otry it out i guess

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 2:12 PM

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v = vehicle player; 
wepp = v weaponsturret [-1]; 
wepg = v weaponsturret [0]; 
{v removemagazineturret [_x, [-1]]; v removeweaponturret [_x, [-1]]}foreach ( wepp); 
{v removemagazineturret [_x, [0]]; v removeweaponturret [_x, [0]]}foreach ( wepg);

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this removes all weapons and magazines fro mboth gunner and pilot on my 2 seater plane BUT the munition models remain on the pylons

untold temple Jun 6, 2018, 2:23 PM

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use setpylonloadout with an empty value to clear it

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 3:28 PM

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ok thanks!

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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hrm empty value?

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ok "" works

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 7:29 PM

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ok last problem - am trying to find an empty weapon on my plane and delete it

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    _wepp = _plane weaponsturret [-1];
    _c = count _wepp;
    hint format ["pilot weapons %1", _c]; sleep 2;
    if (_c > 0) then
    {
        _i = 0;
        while {_i <= (_c -1)} do 
        {
            if ( (_plane ammo (_wepp select _i)) < 1 ) then //empty
            {
                _name = getText (configFile >> "CfgWeapons" >> (_wepp select _i) >> "displayName");
                hint format ["removing: %1", _name];sleep 2;
                _plane removeweaponturret [(_wepp select _i), [-1]];
            };
            _i=_i+1;
        };    
    };

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so this kinda works

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if ( (_plane ammo (_wepp select _i)) < 1 )

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seems to be a bit odd - it returns true for weapons that have magazines present - meaning my code removes them

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what i want to find is an empty gunpod

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any idea how to check if a weapon is empty whe nit isn't necessarily selected?

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this has come about because I'm preserving certain weapons fro mremoval, i.e. laserdesignator_mounted, CMFlarelauncher and any type of machinegun or cannon (which are added normally in weapons[] array

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however i also have gunpods

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so my sloppy code is leaving the empty gunpod weapon on the plane

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i need to work out how to find and remove it

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i guess i can make specific conditions if the gunpod classes are present, but i didnt want to write it that way as it limits other people who might want to use it

livid heath Jun 6, 2018, 7:54 PM

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ok not to worry, i added an array of defined gunpods

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simple just not ideal

toxic solar Jun 6, 2018, 11:41 PM

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is there any refrence wiki for RotorLibHelicopterProperties class?

stoic lily Jun 7, 2018, 3:59 PM

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@toxic solar did you check the TKOH sample model for the FM?

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i think they had a somewhat commented xml in there

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possible to add handleDamage EH to land_classes buildings?

toxic solar Jun 7, 2018, 5:08 PM

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hmm didnt know if TKOH had a sample XMLs,will go look there

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w8 arma3 and tkoh have similar RotorLib stuff?

stoic lily Jun 7, 2018, 5:31 PM

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same

toxic solar Jun 7, 2018, 6:14 PM

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well ill try and find a documented XML then, the ones from https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Take_On_Helicopters:_Samples dont have much comments on them 😭

hot pine Jun 7, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Tkoh is outdated

undone quiver Jun 7, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Is there a way to config the typical fly height of a vehicle?

jade brook Jun 7, 2018, 10:55 PM

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I think default is 100 m and I can't remember any config entry to change that. Could always just do an init event in config with flyInHight command.

toxic solar Jun 8, 2018, 12:32 AM

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if I wanted to change the reload time of a magazine for a vehicle, do I put magazineReloadTime in the magazine class or the weapon class, ik the wiki says the magazine class but someones pointed out to me that the wiki is sometimes wrong XD

jade brook Jun 8, 2018, 1:22 AM

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magazineReloadTime is a config entry from CfgWeapons subclasses.

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the wiki says the magazine class
The wiki is wrong again.

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but someones pointed out to me that the wiki is sometimes wrong XD
False. I pointed out that the wiki is wrong about most things, not just some things.

toxic solar Jun 8, 2018, 1:26 AM

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oh

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its most ,shit

toxic solar Jun 8, 2018, 1:57 AM

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does magazineReloadTime also effect infantry weapons or just vehicle ones?

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I feel like if I want to change the reload speed for infantry weapons its a animation thing?

toxic solar Jun 8, 2018, 3:13 AM

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ah w8 nvm ,I think I figured it out

hot pine Jun 8, 2018, 7:50 AM

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https://pastebin.com/gU1AQEJe @grand zinc If I remember correctly you extracted that list recently, right? Here is some commentary to all available shaders

Pastebin

XX(type, prefix, Normal) /*diffuse co...

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 8:12 AM

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So I'm having trouble using a parent class and trying to modifying it's turret.

        model = "\PDF\model\servoskull.p3d";
            class Turrets : Turrets
        {
                class MainTurret : MainTurret 
                {
                };
        };
    };```

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Do I need to define the turret class as well as a external class?

vale temple Jun 8, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Hey, I'm trying to make myself some custom compositions for zeusing - so far stuff I could find was basically "do it like Ares", so I did. The compositions work in the Editor, but I can't get them to show up in the Zeus interface.
source: https://pastebin.com/WzwFmcSn (I've put it all in one file for pastebin, but in reality I have bunch of includes with hpp files... like I said, it works in the editor)

Any idea what might be wrong? Kinda feels like I'm missing a variable somewhere to make it accessible. Cheers.

EDIT: cheanged pastebin to include CfgPatches

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:30 AM

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@hot pine I have the comments besides the last 3. And the last 3 comments aren't that helpful 😄 I'll need to find time to look into the shaders someday to get info about the last ones. Although besides the Collimator one they don't seem that interesting
But thanks o7

hot pine Jun 8, 2018, 8:31 AM

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https://pastebin.com/9Q3fn3XF and here are vertex shaders

Pastebin

XX(type, prefix, Basic) /*no extra info*...

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I found BasicFade quite interesting and yesterday added it to missile flames

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:32 AM

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oh lol. Completly forgot to document the vertex shaders 😄

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Btw did you get the magazineWell's inheritance bug fixed?

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 8:51 AM

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So I'm very confused now, and missing something on understanding the whole inheritance system. If I define B_UAV_01_F . That should include all the stuff inside it right?

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:51 AM

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if your requiredAddons is correct then yes

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 8:52 AM

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But each time I try to just "blank" the turrets to remove them, I get duplicate class errors and all sorts of stuff

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As shown in above codebox post.

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:52 AM

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What you are doing there is adding nothing to the MainTurret class

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you aren't removing anything

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you need to use delete to remove

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and also. You are trying to inherit from Turrets But you don't specify where Turrets is supposed to be coming from

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 8:54 AM

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Which is were I'm confused. Like Mainclass -> New Class -> Child Class right? So Why doesn't the game not know the turrets already exist within the drone since it's simply a child class itself?

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Like how far up the totem pole do I need to define to just say I want to mess with the vehicles turret?

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:55 AM

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class B_UAV_01_F : parent {
class Turrets;
};
    class Skulldrone : B_UAV_01_F {
        model = "\PDF\model\servoskull.p3d";
            class Turrets : Turrets
        {
                <do stuff in Turrets>
        };
    };

like that for example

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I rarely do such stuff though. You might need to define that in the class where Turrets was first added

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 8:57 AM

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So looking at the Drone config it goes Air->Helicopter(turrets in this)->Base->Drone

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But in my mind all that should of been already done by just pointing at the drone. So how would I get rid of the turret? Just push up all the way to helicopters and branch from there?

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 8:59 AM

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you can

    class Skulldrone : B_UAV_01_F {
        model = "\PDF\model\servoskull.p3d";
        delete Turrets;
    };

Which will delete the Turrets entry. And it will be gone in your class ans below

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 9:01 AM

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So does the delete work with other classes within something as well? Is it just a general command thing?

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 9:02 AM

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delete will remove whatever you give it. If you want to delete the MainTurret class inside Turrets. Then put the delete inside Turrets and delete MainTurret;

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 9:04 AM

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And the first way you showed me is simply to override the default turret stuff yea? So I wanted to add weapons or something? Just so I understand this lesson.

grand zinc Jun 8, 2018, 9:12 AM

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with the correct inheritance yeah

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I usually don't do such advanced config stuff. So I might not be the best guy to ask

undone quiver Jun 8, 2018, 9:39 AM

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mmm

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Didn't work :. It removes the functionality of the turret(moving), but it's still a option to be selected on the drone.

livid heath Jun 8, 2018, 12:44 PM

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class turrets{}; destroys the content - may not be useful here though

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so how inheritance works - you need to state the basic subclasses in a parent vehicle class you wish to inherit from in child vehicle classes

cursive thorn Jun 8, 2018, 3:07 PM

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For a session tonight, I am trying to create a hotfix to fix wrong mass values. This is an example:

#define MASS_KG(X_KG) __EVAL(X_KG / 0.04536)

    class CSA38_Mp35 : CSA38_Mp28 {
        mass = MASS_KG(4.24);
    };```

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ACE Arsenal reports the weight fine, but when I try it out ingame Arma itself considers it much lighter.

cursive thorn Jun 8, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Think I got it fixed. Apparently you have to define it twice now .....

    class CSA38_Mp35 : CSA38_Mp28 {
        mass = MASS_KG(4.24);
        class WeaponSlotsInfo : WeaponSlotsInfo {
            mass = MASS_KG(4.24);
        };
    };

hot pine Jun 8, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Only entry in weaponslotsinfo is valid

cursive thorn Jun 8, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Yeah. But I see some addons, like ACE (Arsenal), reads first the mass, then tries ItemInfo, and finally WeaponSlotsInfo. So if I don't set both the values might be different.

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I guess I could set it to 0 so it is indistinguishable from not there though.

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Now I get to the trouble of magazines. Never paid that much attention, but it seems only the magazine itself decides weight?

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So a almost empty magazine weighs as much as a full one - no accounting for bullet or cartridge weight?

hot pine Jun 8, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Iteminfo is for items

cursive thorn Jun 8, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Thanks for the info. Though many config entries for weapons, including bohemia's have an ItemInfo entry with at least priority.

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So is there a recommend value for magazine weight? Like

Number of bullets * bullet weight
Number of bullets * cartridge weight
Number of bullets * cartridge weight + magazine box weight?

untold temple Jun 8, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I think we try to find the weight of the loaded magazine on RHS stuff

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so that would be the latter

cursive thorn Jun 8, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Yup, I believe so, at least looking at the online config viewer that fits. Bohemia seems to use the second one (at least for 30rnd stanag).

lethal crag Jun 8, 2018, 8:42 PM

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Repeat since nobody answered
so, been slowly making progress on this, backpack is finished and stuffed full of the appropriate items.
Next up is uniform/vest.
Is it feasible/possible to use TransportItems and TransportMagazines with a vest in cfgWeapons, or is there some other strange way I have to do that?

stoic lily Jun 9, 2018, 5:59 AM

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these are cfgVehicles parameters

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which is used for equipment on the ground

grand zinc Jun 9, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Yeah. But I see some addons, like ACE (Arsenal), reads first the mass, then tries ItemInfo, and finally WeaponSlotsInfo. So if I don't set both the values might be different. @clear venture

clear venture Jun 9, 2018, 9:38 AM

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that's because for some godawful reasons NVGs have both itemInfo and WeaponSlotsInfo

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considering this code is used for all the items in ace arsenal I needed to be able to get all item / weapon mass without using 3 funcs

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and FYI it stops after it find one, in order (mass, itemInfo, WeaponSlot)

cursive thorn Jun 9, 2018, 10:01 AM

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For my particular case, one of the entries had a (wrongly coded) mass, and another wrong mass in WeaponSlot. If I just corrected the WeaponSlot, it seems to me that ACE Arsenal would have read the "ordinary" mass entry. I don't know if it would be possible to read ordinary mass last instead, as it seems the other two take precedence (but that might just move incorrect behavior from one "kind" of incorrect config entries to another kind). Anyway, personally I just set both to not have to worry too much.

lethal crag Jun 9, 2018, 3:39 PM

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@stoic lily so if that's only for cfgVehicles, what way could someone use to put items into their respective gear?
is that something that would require linkedItems?

undone quiver Jun 9, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Does HEAT spawn it's secondary even when hitting infantry directly?

terse plank Jun 9, 2018, 10:14 PM

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probably

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if it explodes then it spawns it

woeful stirrup Jun 10, 2018, 12:00 AM

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It spawns the secondary when hitting target dummies that bullets normally go through, at least.

undone quiver Jun 10, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Another random question

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Anybody experienced or know a good tutorial on custom MFDs?

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I want one that highlights infantry

livid heath Jun 10, 2018, 9:21 AM

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So instead of putting target boxes around say an IRtarget you want it around a visual target?

undone quiver Jun 10, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Yea, like how the Y-32 puts dots on the HUD for valid IR targets, I would want something like that for infantry only diamonds or something little more easily recognizable.

barren umbra Jun 10, 2018, 11:26 AM

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@undone quiver The dots are are actually a texture file, I guess you could take the name and look for the config in order to the infantry markers to something else.

hazy monolith Jun 10, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Is there any actual load order in addons when requiredAddons[] = {};? Thanks.

terse plank Jun 10, 2018, 3:32 PM

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from what i've been able to gather, it depends on the dependencies. So if your Mod A depends on B which depends on C, then you go C, B, A

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i'm still wrapping my head around config mods though...

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 5:01 PM

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@hazy monolith If the array is empty, your addon will be loaded first... In 'random' order with all the other addons with empty requiredAddons.

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'random' as in not actually random, but undefined order.

hazy monolith Jun 10, 2018, 5:48 PM

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@jade brook Thanks, so its just spawn-like load order.

stoic lily Jun 10, 2018, 6:27 PM

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@jade brook the order is defined by load order of modfolders and alphabetic order of pbo names

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(with details like dta before addons, etc)

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 7:18 PM

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There is a difference between what happens to be true, sometimes I might add, and what is the defined behavior. Load order by the -mod parameter is not reliable.

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Is it possible to use the __EXEC and __EVAL commands to add to a var you can use later in a config entry with strings in a {"entry1","entry2"} format? I'm trying to do a modular define for items on a display3den menu.

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 8:13 PM

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you cannot use it to edit config entries on the fly if that's what you mean

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Not on the fly no, in the same addon but with multiple developers/modules

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 8:17 PM

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theoretically you can set variables and read them. There is parsingNamespace for that.

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But I never used it

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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I don't think you need to use parsingnamespace within the config file when you are using __EVAL and __EXEC it seems like they are already in that namespace and dont need a reference to it, you only need that namespace if you are getting a variable from outside the preprocessor. The issue I was having was the formatting inside of an __EVAL since the items[] define needs separated strings

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 8:20 PM

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config is automatically in parsingNamespace

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Ah you mean using __EVAL to generate an array?

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 8:24 PM

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elsewhere in an #include... __EXEC(MenuStripItems = "{" + "'Entry1'";)

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when defining items[] = __EVAL(MenuStripItems + "}");

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It would be nice to have that functionality so one can have another #include with
__EXEC(MenuStripItems = MenuStripItems + "'Entry2'";) and so on

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 8:31 PM

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Sounds like you could also just use macros

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 8:54 PM

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@raven kiln No, __EVAL does not work with arrays or classes. Only with string and number entries.

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__EXEC is pointless and has no use case that could not be achieved with simpler methods.

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 9:07 PM

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So is there any way to add to a var for use in a config array entry?

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 9:08 PM

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you are trying to reuse the same file in different places. But have it have different arrays at the different places where it's used right?

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I'm trying to have a compiled config entry based off of a var that gets added to by #include for modules

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 9:10 PM

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There is +=, but it has huge issues whenever the class containing that entry is inherited and modified.

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 9:11 PM

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But why do macros not work for you?

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 9:12 PM

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I'm trying to have a compiled config entry based off of a var that gets added to by #include for modules
Not possible. And __EXEC and __EVAL need uncompiled configs as a prerequisite.

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If stuff like this were possible, there would be no need for separate x_compat_ace addons.

raven kiln Jun 10, 2018, 9:13 PM

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thats too bad, thanks for the info

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Well.. Certain mods can write config entries via script.. So technically...... 😄

jade brook Jun 10, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Intercept has that?

grand zinc Jun 10, 2018, 9:14 PM

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One of my plugins has that

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Not open-source though.. Because allowing people to write configs is not a nice idea ^^

toxic solar Jun 11, 2018, 2:38 AM

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is there a way to have a bomb weapon, drop say 10 bombs every time you fire, kind of like how burst is for like a rifle.

toxic solar Jun 11, 2018, 2:59 AM

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ah nvm, I think i got it figured out XD

undone quiver Jun 11, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Question about using the Inti = in the config.

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Does it have to call a external script?

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Or will something like class Skulldrone : B_UAV_01_F { displayNameShort = "Skull Drone"; model = "\PDF\model\servoskull.p3d"; class Turrets; init = _this flyInHeight 10;

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work?

grand zinc Jun 11, 2018, 7:07 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Event_Handlers#Event_Handlers_in_Config.cpp

undone quiver Jun 11, 2018, 8:03 AM

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fmmm, flyInHeight just seems to be a fickle thing.

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Is it still hardcoded to a certain limit? Like 20m?

toxic solar Jun 11, 2018, 8:50 AM

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I think I saw this mentioned by someone ,but is there something to have a bomb delay its blast once hitting the ground?

stoic lily Jun 11, 2018, 12:04 PM

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only for grenade simulation - otherwise needs scripting

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maybe you can combine submunition with grenade though

hot pine Jun 11, 2018, 12:15 PM

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you can take a look at demining charge from Laws of War DLC

toxic solar Jun 11, 2018, 5:39 PM

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oh yea doesnt laws of war have unexploded ordances and so u can have like a casual GBU sticking out of a playground or something?

untold temple Jun 11, 2018, 6:08 PM

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there's only UXO for the cluster bomb submunitions AFAIK

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I seem to remember one of the BI guys saying that it might have too much of an adverse effect of critical gameplay moments if single-use ordance would also dud

wise tusk Jun 11, 2018, 6:43 PM

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How does engine know if vehicle is Anti air?

livid heath Jun 11, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Define engine

wise tusk Jun 11, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Arma engine :/

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How is it defined that you can see the vehicle under Anti-air tab in Eden editor

grand zinc Jun 11, 2018, 7:20 PM

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That's probably editorCategory of that object

wise tusk Jun 11, 2018, 7:22 PM

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@grand zinc does all vehicle config have that?

grand zinc Jun 11, 2018, 7:22 PM

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if it shows up in editor yes

wise tusk Jun 11, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Ok then. I will have to use it in script then. There is no other way probably to determine if vehicle is AA?

stoic lily Jun 11, 2018, 7:30 PM

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@wise tusk threat value

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airLock (or newer stuff) in ammo

toxic solar Jun 12, 2018, 8:47 AM

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where are the class names for ExplosionEffects for ammos located under? I was thinking about maybe making my own explosion effect for a bomb

jade brook Jun 12, 2018, 3:16 PM

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@toxic solar They actually are root level classes, because this game was programmed by madmen.

toxic solar Jun 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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:bangs head on wall:

snow turret Jun 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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:removes wall to bang head on:

toxic solar Jun 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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fun times, theres also some stuff for each effect in CFgLights and CfgCloudlets too oooooffffff

snow turret Jun 12, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Yes

toxic solar Jun 12, 2018, 6:09 PM

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I just wanted to make a bomb have lightning effects ;(, welp time to learn

snow turret Jun 12, 2018, 6:09 PM

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Like zeus lightning?

toxic solar Jun 12, 2018, 7:28 PM

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yea I guess

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:09 PM

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ok scratch that

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:09 PM

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@sturdy marlin

class CfgFunctions {
    #include "INC_airPower\cfgFunctions.hpp"
    #include "vcom\cfgFunctions.hpp"
};

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:09 PM

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for config comments its similar to Java right? // is a comment

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:09 PM

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configs are cpp/c++/c

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similar/actually exactly the same as in C

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which is also exactly the same as in java

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Yeah ok I got why it looked so screwed up for me.

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I was opening it in notepadd and for some reason it was removing all the spaces.

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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That is because line endings

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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but when I pasted it in discord chat or opened it in Eclipse it looked like it had actual structure.

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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use notepad++

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or anything other than windows notepad really

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Yeah lmao

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Ok thanks for the assist

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:12 PM

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VSCode has a bunch of useful plugins for SQF and Arma programming, just be a little careful with ArmaDev, lost a bunch of code with its live code feature today

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:12 PM

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VSCode will also soon get a SQF Debugger 😉

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:13 PM

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That would be nice, although I would say I have been having issues getting the live code to work well with the limitations that system imposes

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Also double checking

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but I'm using PBO Manager

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is that the best user friendly?

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:14 PM

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it's the easiest tool I'd say

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And thus also the "dumbest"

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:14 PM

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The restart cycle that dominates dealing with PBOs and how slow Arma can be to load is not productive.

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Well its probably best for me if I'm just editing configs for now.

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:14 PM

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PBO Manager I mostly use to edit an existing PBO because I don't want to rebuild it for a variety of reasons, or to extract a PBO easily. It does a reasonable job anyway

sturdy marlin Jun 12, 2018, 8:15 PM

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class CfgFunctions {

    #include "INC_airPower\cfgFunctions.hpp"

};
{
#include "vcom\cfgFunctions.hpp"
};
Is that right, it's for the description.ext?

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:15 PM

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@sturdy marlin I already told you.

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:16 PM

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When it comes to building your own mod it is usually a good idea to set up a more productive/less manual system than PBO Manager as recreating them and restarting is alas something you do a lot of.

sturdy marlin Jun 12, 2018, 8:16 PM

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ah, sorry I didn't see it. Thanks

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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VSCode and some junctions for the PBOs can be pretty powerful as can its live code (but be careful as they are hard links) and it has a build system as well that calls addon builder and linters etc. Takes time to learn but it also saves some suffering as well.

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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how does that live code thing work? script only or config too? diag build with mergeConfigFile?

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Although based on how much work I lost today having an entire git repo blown away right near the end of a feature I would definitely have been more productive with notepad!

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It has a bit of config and uses the known steam directory combined with PBOPrefix to create a hard junction pointing back to your client src directory

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It toggles the junction on and off. So if you lay out the project right and use the long version of the pbo prefix contents (ie x/modname/addons/addonName) then it produces the directory structure and combined with -filepatching gives you a bit of modification on the fly/on restarts of missions

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But I really really really wish I knew it used hard junctions not soft ones, I can't see why it uses hard at all that is a terrible choice!

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The live code replacement only really works on scripts and then only ones that aren't directly associated with the lifecycle, so you can't reload the contents of say a PostInit function. But if you have something called with ExecVM and you haven't added another file that isn't in the PBO then you can run your replacement without a restart. Doesn't work for any config I know of nor FSM.

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:23 PM

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I usually softlink my modfolder from my dev folder into my z in Arma directory

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and then I edit the modfolder directly. Everything is linked but the editor doesn't see that

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:24 PM

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That is basically what it does, has a mechanism for toggling that on or off.

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But it hard links and ole is not going to change that for some reason.

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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EZM_Hardcore = [ [EZM_mediumCivilians, 10], [EZM_mediumSoldiers, 10], // [EZM_fastCivilians, 15], // [EZM_fastSoldiers, 15], [EZM_crawlers, 1], [EZM_spiders, 3] ]; Have I succesfully commented out "EZM_fastCivilians" and "EZM_fastSoldiers" / will the function still work?

sullen fulcrum Jun 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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So I'll probably just go back to soft linking it manually, just a bit more painful than the mechanism right there in the IDE

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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sorry for interrupting.

grand zinc Jun 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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can't you just get rid of that. Do the softlink manually and then edit inside the modfolder?

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There is also a shell extension for softlinking directories via drag&drop

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@desert compass looks correct yes

desert compass Jun 12, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Thanks

livid mica Jun 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

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Can someone help me find the correct config class. I am trying to add some eden editor attributes to markers. I am able to add attributes to the markers labeled "Icons" since they are all based on:
class CfgMarkers
{
class Flag {};
};

But I am unable to find any config reference to the area markers called Ellipse or Rectangle. I am fairly certain that the configs for them are not in Cfgmarkers. Does anyone have any idea where I might find them?

solar fox Jun 13, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Hi everyone 😃

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i want to make most stuff be unbreakable/ be "stronger" and im kind of stuck atm

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class Land_HBarrier_1_F;

class Land_Razorwire_F : Land_HBarrier_1_F
    { 
    armor=1000;
    scope=2;
    };
    
//____________________________________________________________________


class Land_GarbageContainer_closed_F : Land_HBarrier_1_F 
    { 
    armor=1000;
    scope=2;
    };
....(Many more objects dont want to spam discord)

i put this as a config.cpp in a folder and pack it with pboproject but the stuff still flips when bumping it slightly anyone any idea? i have a sliiiight guess that the Land_HBarrier_1_F doesnt have any armor to begin with but it should still work or?

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i also put scope=2; on everything because there was some stuff that wasnt placeable and i thought it would be neat if the config also allows that 😃

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i might be completly wrong right?

jade brook Jun 13, 2018, 4:40 AM

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armor has nothing to do with physics behavior.

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@livid mica RECTANGLE and ELLIPSE are hard coded marker shapes. Another marker shape is ICON. Only ICON can use images defined in CfgMarkers. Those are called marker types and are different from marker shape. There is no reference to marker shapes in any config, because, again, shapes are hard coded.

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Marker type, which all are defined in CfgMarkers) only applies to ICON shape. Type is nested inside one specific shape so to say.

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For RECTANGLE and ELLIPSE there is however an equivalent not called type, but brush. CfgMarkerBrushes. Maybe that is what you're looking for.

solar fox Jun 13, 2018, 4:51 AM

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all good works fine now

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got it fixxed

hot pine Jun 13, 2018, 7:19 AM

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armor is one of the params in tree/wall fall equations

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so there is some little connection to "physics"

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😉

livid mica Jun 13, 2018, 7:59 AM

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Thanks for the information @jade brook. I did not get it working but its not that important so ill leave it at that. Thanks again.

jade brook Jun 13, 2018, 1:55 PM

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armor is one of the params in tree/wall fall equations

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Why?!

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(rhetoric question, doesn't need an answer)

strange egret Jun 13, 2018, 2:05 PM

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armor is synonymous with "healthpoints" so why not?

jade brook Jun 13, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Because a healthy tree doesn't fall faster.

terse plank Jun 13, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Falls slower though, but depends on the thickness of the tree 😛

stoic lily Jun 13, 2018, 4:09 PM

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did anyone ever do simpleObject definitions?

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i used BI's diag function to create the config code, set always Eden=1 - the code is active confirmed by config browser but the option in Eden is still not available (neither for vehicles nor objects)

heavy turret Jun 13, 2018, 7:25 PM

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is it possible to make storage containers only accept certain types of items

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weapons for example

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 7:29 PM

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you can make items only accept certain kinds of storage containers. but the other way around? 🤔

heavy turret Jun 13, 2018, 7:30 PM

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like a "weapon crate" which only lets u put weapons inside of it

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or maybe an crate that only lets u add an array of items

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may not be just configgable tho idk

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 7:31 PM

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you can definetly script it of course. But I don't know a config way

heavy turret Jun 13, 2018, 7:53 PM

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alright thanks

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i cant script for shit so xD

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:08 PM

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class Mission { class Intel { timeOfChanges = 1800.0002; startWeather = 0.3; startWind = 0.1; startWaves = 0.1; forecastWeather=0.30000001; forecastWind = 0.1; forecastWaves = 0.1; forecastLightnings = 0.1; year = 2039; month = 6; day = 24; hour = 00; minute = 0; startFogBase = 5.0; forecastFogBase = 5.0; startFogDecay = 0.014; forecastFogDecay = 0.014; }; Sorry what is "timeOfChanges" ?

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Also, for some reason its refusing to let me change the time to night.

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:09 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWorlds_Config_Reference#timeOfChanges 🤔

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:09 PM

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thanks

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but it doesn't really explain what it is :/

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:09 PM

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why? It doesn't say anything

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:10 PM

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just wondering, but how do I set the default time of the mission e.g. after a restart to night?

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because it feels like the Exile mod is forcing the time to be static and just stay day.

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(on a dedicated server)

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:10 PM

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It's the same value for Tanoa,Takistan, CUP maps, Lythium. It's just some static value

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That might very well be yeah

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Any idea how to disable this? or what config folder it'll be in?

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I assumed it'd be in the mission.sqm

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but I think I'm blind.

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:11 PM

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If it's something in Exile.. Then it won't be in mission.sqm

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:12 PM

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Ah looks like I'll need Filezilla then right?

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because when I connect with FTP with windows explorer it only displays folders, not executables

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:13 PM

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🤔

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No Idea how you get from exile. To executable via FTP.

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And no.. my windows explorer displays executables

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:14 PM

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Ok, I'll investigate a bit more

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try figure out whats going on before I ask.

terse plank Jun 13, 2018, 8:48 PM

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@desert compass time of changes means the duration over which the weather changes in the mission

desert compass Jun 13, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Ahh

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ok thanks

terse plank Jun 13, 2018, 8:49 PM

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You can do that via the editor too, the weather settings window

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(which i believe is also called "intel")

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default is usually 30 mins

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so 1800s

grand zinc Jun 13, 2018, 8:55 PM

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Can you add that to biki? :3 To the empty entry I posted?

terse plank Jun 13, 2018, 9:33 PM

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yeah, shall do that 👍🏽

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i kinda wanted to (also that cfgAIskill stuff) but was being lazy about logging in 😛

toxic solar Jun 14, 2018, 8:42 AM

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so as far as I can tell, the only thing that I can see that effects the max speed that a helicopter can go is mass, is there anything else that would effect it? ive tried looking at tkoh samples but not seem to have any answers for me

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so for example, ive tried changing maxSpeed around but it doesnt seem to effect anything. ive changed maxSpeed for planes/vtols before and for those it changes thrust values but I dont notice any changes with helicopters

hot pine Jun 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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@toxic solar liftForceCoef & bodyFrictionCoef

livid heath Jun 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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weird question of the day... so we have two 2-seater planes (A6 and F4). When trying to addaction to the A6 using

EB_rearmid5 = (vehicle player) addAction ["<t color='#FFFFCC'>~Master Arm2</t>","rearm.sqf",[(vehicle player)],15,true,true,"reloadMagazine","",20];```
the action shows to the player pilot, and he can use it. When adding it only to the F4 in the editor under the same conditions, the action is only viewable if you dismount the aircraft. Any idea what could be different between the A6 and F4 to generate this strange behaviour?

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I'm thinking there must be something odd about the pilot proxy perhaps, so it believes you are too far outside the radius ?

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outside the aircraft you can see the action right by the pilot ladder

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setting radius to 100m makes no difference though

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useractions in config show up, but if they call scripts which use addaction, those actions do not show on the F4 (from inside the plane), while the exact same scripts work perfectly on the A6

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both planes have autocenter 0

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both planes have the exact same parent classes

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i changed them so they both use the exact same pilot proxies

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still, the only way to see addactions on the F4 is from outside the plane

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the gunner can see the action from inside the plane

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just not the pilot

livid heath Jun 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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ok it's definitely model-related. If i change the model = xx in the F4 config to the A6 model, then the A6 model version works fine with addaction

livid heath Jun 14, 2018, 2:56 PM

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so i transplanted in every F4 lod one-by-one to the A6 model. something in the F4 lod 1 breaks the addaction

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all the other lods work fine

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am thinking maybe a bounding box issue?

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FIXED - was a bad pilot proxy AND the radius of the actions wouldn't reach the cockpit. the combination of both was mindbending lol

terse plank Jun 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Is it possible to pin this? The 1.82 config dump. https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/191737-updated-all-in-one-config-dumps/?do=findComment&comment=3283480

terse plank Jun 14, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Alright, so here's what i plan to do. I want to edit the config of the Zamak MRL such that it:
(A) Can use the datalink feature
(B) Use a custom magazine_Missile_rim162_x12 magazine
(C) Fire it using weapon_rim162Launcher

So I think I'll need to make a new version of magazine_Missile_rim162_x8 with the ammo count set to 8 instead of 12, then make a new version of weapon_rim162Launcher that uses this magazine, and finally add that weapon and magazine, along with the datalink component, to a new version of the Zamak MRL config.

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Question is, should these three classes go into the same config.cpp, or should i add the magazine and weapon to CfgMagazines.hpp and CfgWeapons.hpp?

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 4:17 PM

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For faction sides theres West, Civillian, East

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What is independent?

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Just "INDEPENDENT"?

terse plank Jun 14, 2018, 4:18 PM

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resistance

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 4:19 PM

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SC_SurvivorSide = CIVILIAN; SC_BanditSide = EAST;

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change to

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SC_SurvivorSide = CIVILIAN; SC_BanditSide = RESISTANCE;

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?

terse plank Jun 14, 2018, 4:19 PM

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oh shit no

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GUER

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/side

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 4:19 PM

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thank you :)

terse plank Jun 14, 2018, 4:19 PM

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np

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Sorry but in what file do I set Faction Relations?

toxic solar Jun 14, 2018, 5:39 PM

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oh bodyFrictionCoef ,I shall go try that then

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:39 PM

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I want to make Independent Hostile to West and vice versa.

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is that edited in the config.cpp or description.ext for example?

jade brook Jun 14, 2018, 5:40 PM

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That is hard coded, not config.

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Not even if I were to open it up in the editor and change it via that?

jade brook Jun 14, 2018, 5:41 PM

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Attributes -> General -> Misc.
There you can change if Indep is friendly to West or East.

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:42 PM

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Thanks

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I apologize for being kinda useless in this area.

jade brook Jun 14, 2018, 5:44 PM

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It has crossed swords or the SED emblem. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:SED-Logo.png 🤔
Guess crossed swords means enemy and shaking hands means friendly.

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Yeah

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I was thrown off because of this forum post

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/191857-how-to-set-one-faction-within-the-independent-side-hostile-to-everyone/

jade brook Jun 14, 2018, 5:47 PM

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gc8's post is right.

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Thread should've ended there.

desert compass Jun 14, 2018, 5:49 PM

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Ah ok

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thanks for clarifying

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So everything worked

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except opening the mission in the editor

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somehow broke the traders I think

toxic solar Jun 14, 2018, 8:29 PM

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so does liftForceCoef for helicopters make it so that u can collective up faster or just rather carry more weight? and does it also allow for faster collective down speeds?

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 1:00 AM

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Can you config an editor module to be unique/only able to be placed once?

stoic lily Jun 15, 2018, 4:23 AM

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not really - however what do you intend to achieve actually @raven kiln ?

snow turret Jun 15, 2018, 6:05 AM

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in the fnc for your module, set a variable. Check if before execution, if true then continue, false, exit.

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 6:37 AM

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@strange dome #rules cross-posting. Not allowed.

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 10:41 AM

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@stoic lily using editor modules in a mission making addon to implement area/sync specific modules like setting team AO limits, start area, etc. It would be great if the mission maker didn't have the ability to place another module of that type and mess up the module implementation

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 10:46 AM

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you could use 3den eventhandlers to detect placed objects and delete the module again if it already existed. Or show a warning. Or add a check in your module script and show a warning on mission start

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 10:47 AM

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👍 Think i'll go with the eventhandlers, cool

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 10:54 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/add3DENEventHandler
Quite sure you can add these in a preInit https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Functions_Library_(Arma_3)#Pre_and_Post_Init handler if https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/is3DEN
But I remember there was some quirkyness with Eden and init eventhandlers. Either preInit or postInit not firing. I think it was postInit

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 11:09 AM

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Since I am only doing this for modules, could I use a module with is3DEN = 1 and do a switch for the passed _mode in it's function and for case "registeredToWorld3DEN": run a function that searches for config names in all3DENEntities and do the delete/hint to mission maker from there? Then I could avoid creation/deletion eventhandlers

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:09 AM

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I have a question about recoils. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/cfgRecoils makes no mention of maxRecoilSway or swayDecaySpeed - are these still used, and if so, how do they relate to the values in e.g. recoil = "uns_recoil_ak"; ?

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 11:11 AM

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@raven kiln if that registeredToWorld3DEN exists then sure. didn't hear about that yet

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No they aren't used @livid heath

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Also for the CfgWeaponHandling I cannot see that prone is used.

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 11:14 AM

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@grand zinc BZ One uses it in Jets DLC, it might be new to that

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Yeah. Just checked again. Can't find a use of prone but there is recoilProneCoef in MuzzleCoef in Muzzle attachments

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@raven kiln It's atleast not documented on biki.. Just checkd. Yeah it's a EH.... wait...

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:16 AM

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        class Default
        {
            muzzleOuter[] = {0, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6};
            kickBack[] = {0.05, 0.1};
            permanent = 0.1;
            temporary = 0.01;
        };
        recoil_single_mk20[] = {0, 0, 0, 0.03, 0.00554145, 0.028696, 0.03, 0.00795425, 0.0120096, 0.03, 0.00691425, 0.0085568, 0.06, 0.0033246, 0.003648, 0.06, -0.0003603, -0.002304, 0.06, -0.0008825, -0.002256, 0.06, -0.00091925, -0.00147, 0.06, -0.0004707, -0.000375, 0.06, 0, 0};
        recoil_single_prone_mk20[] = {0, 0, 0, 0.03, 0.00554145, 0.007174, 0.03, 0.00795425, 0.0045036, 0.03, 0.00691425, 0.0039728, 0.06, 0.0033246, 0.001938, 0.06, -0.0003603, -0.001536, 0.06, -0.0008825, -0.00141, 0.06, -0.00091925, -0.000588, 0.06, -0.0004707, -0.000125, 0.06, 0, 0};
        recoil_auto_mk20[] = {0, 0, 0, 0.03, 0.00554145, 0.028696, 0.03, 0.00795425, 0.0120096, 0.03, 0.00691425, 0.0085568, 0.06, 0.0033246, 0.003648, 0.06, -0.0003603, -0.002304, 0.06, -0.0008825, -0.002256, 0.06, -0.00091925, -0.00147, 0.06, -0.0004707, -0.000375, 0.06, 0, 0};```

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 11:16 AM

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It's a eventhandler.. apparently

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:16 AM

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this seems to be an example of how recoil is configured in A3 config. It doesn't use the class xxx format but rather the array format

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 11:17 AM

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@raven kiln Here is a list of eventhandlers https://gist.github.com/dedmen/894d252ace6829d294319e9277931354#file-arma-eventhandlers-1-82-L91
It's in the same list as GetIn/InventoryOpened and so on. So I guess it's addEventHandler script command. But how to add a EH to a object that doesn't exist yet 🤔

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:18 AM

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are they interchangeable (old vs new format)? or are they interdependent?

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Ahh @raven kiln https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers:_Eden_Editor#RegisteredToWorld3DEN
Editor specific event handlers can be also added directly to objects, using addEventHandler command. that explains that
But don't know why it would be passed to the module function. But you could just test if that's the case

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seems different @livid heath
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/cfgRecoils#Legacy_Recoils
Recoil is defined as three numbers in a row indicating time taken,kick back,kick up
So they atleast are doing different things. I'd say independent

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:21 AM

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interestingly the new vanilla AKM uses the "new format" and does not have separate recoil definitions in fullatuo and single modes ```
recoil = "recoil_akm";
class recoil_akm: recoil_default
{
muzzleOuter[] = {0.3, 1, 0.3, 0.4};
kickBack[] = {0.04, 0.08};
temporary = 0.01;
};

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 11:22 AM

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@grand zinc I'll test it out, seems promising

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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so i guess i'm wondering how the old and new modes interact... i.e. do i need to clean up 200 weapons in our configs to delete the old recoils in each fire mode... and wondering e.g. how does recoil change in fullauto now if not defined in the firemode?

stoic lily Jun 15, 2018, 11:27 AM

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old no longer work afaik. reyhard should be able to confirm

livid heath Jun 15, 2018, 11:32 AM

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so in summary: ```
1 delete old firemode related recoil formats like this
class Single: Single
{
recoil = "recoil_single_mk20";
recoilProne = "recoil_single_prone_mk20";
};
2 delete all instances of maxRecoilSway and swayDecaySpeed (redundant)
3 delete all legacy "array format" recoils like this recoil_single_mk20[]=xxx
4 add new "class" recoil formats like this
class uns_recoil_m16: recoil_default
{
muzzleOuter[] = {0.2,0.6,0.2,0.2};
kickBack[] = {0.01,0.03};
permanent = 0.13;
temporary = 0.01;
};
5 update weapon classes with a single recoil parameter like this
recoil = "uns_recoil_m16";

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@hot pine is this about right?

hot pine Jun 15, 2018, 11:41 AM

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looks ok

barren umbra Jun 15, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Question: how is the recoil done on the tanks in the Tanks DLC?

untold temple Jun 15, 2018, 1:37 PM

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muzzleImpulseFactor[] = {torqueFactor, forceFactor} in the magazine

raven kiln Jun 15, 2018, 2:04 PM

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@grand zinc The function running off is3DEN = 1 module works just as intended

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https://giant.gfycat.com/GiantOfficialFalcon.webm

grand zinc Jun 15, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Someone should document that somewhere 👀

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Ah crap the eyes are looking in my direction

toxic solar Jun 15, 2018, 3:00 PM

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ah,u played ur self

stoic lily Jun 16, 2018, 4:07 AM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/217330-config-macros-excecution-order/ anyone knows?

undone quiver Jun 16, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Does the backpack slot have a ID like weapon slots?

untold temple Jun 16, 2018, 11:10 AM

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allowedSlots[] = {901}; I think

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or could just be the isbackpack = 1; does it

undone quiver Jun 16, 2018, 10:14 PM

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mmm

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901 = the slot within a backpack though right?

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Basically I'm trying to have a weapon take the backpack slot as well

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If that is possible of course

untold temple Jun 16, 2018, 10:20 PM

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unlikely. Particularly since backpacks vehicles rather than weapons iirc

undone quiver Jun 16, 2018, 10:22 PM

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But every "slot" has a ID right?

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Like rifle = 1, Launcher = 2, GPS = whatever big random number, ect

untold temple Jun 16, 2018, 10:26 PM

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Not really

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the type of weapon that something is, is determined by its "type"

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AFAIK vehicles don't have that

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and each type has certain hardcoded behaviours

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animation sets etc

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it's not simply what inventory slot it goes in

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the inventory is really just a UI

undone quiver Jun 16, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Could you lock out the backpack slot in any way?

heavy turret Jun 17, 2018, 1:01 AM

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https://gyazo.com/8943f25824f765bd1f39a58542c3db37

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am i doing something wrong?

undone quiver Jun 17, 2018, 1:27 AM

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Kinda need the actual config to see, as the error states it's missing stuff.

heavy turret Jun 17, 2018, 1:34 AM

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hmm

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odd cus im packing fine and reloading

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ill look through it to double check

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 3:56 AM

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not sure if this should be here or #arma3_scripting but for adding a EH in a config I saw that I could have a execVm in quotes that calls a SQF file. What I also saw was that you could have the code be in the quotes it self, however ive only seent it with simple one line statements. Is it possible to have a code block be warppaed around quotes so that I wouldnt have to call a SQF file? Ive tried putting the entire code block in a single line and putting quotes around it but it didnt work

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and one other question, is it possible to have EH added with configs remove it self?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 9:44 AM

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@heavy turret you have development branch?

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That error is telling you that the command doesn't exist

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it only exists on dev branch

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@toxic solar yes that's possible. If it doesn't work then you have some error in there. Show me your snippet.
But keep in mind that the EH is recompiled everytime it's called. The more code the longer that's gonna take. But same with execVM so.. No real difference there I guess

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No config EH's cannot be removed. You could check a variable in your script though

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 9:48 AM

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thats what I ended up doing to "remove" the EH, thers no way to make it so that teh EH is compiled before hand is there?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 9:51 AM

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no

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well.

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you can use CfgFunctions for your function and then just call that from your EH

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The EH code itself is still compiled before every execution. But then it's atleast not as complex

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 9:52 AM

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oh yea I saw CfgFunctions when I was looking around con fig examples, as for the snippet

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_tempVar=random 100;
if(_tempVar>1) then 
{
    hint "test EH";

};
``` I have that on the fired EH just to see if it works, and as of right now I just call the sqf file that the snippet is in

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and if I did it right the I guess string version should be

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"_tempVar=random 100;if(_tempVar>1) then {hint ""test EH"";};"

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 AM

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yeah. Though I would prefer
'_tempVar=random 100;if(_tempVar>1) then {hint "test EH";};'
for simplicity

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 AM

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oh so no need for the double " then

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 AM

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ye

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 9:55 AM

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fun

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 9:56 AM

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and macros also work inside single quoted strings

toxic solar Jun 17, 2018, 9:56 AM

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i have absolutely no idea what macros are 😭

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ive seen them in configs, but not sure why they are there

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 1:20 PM

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how would I go about adding a config-based EH to every soldier class? I imagine I'd have to edit the base CAMan class, since every other soldier class inherits from that, right?

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by itself that seems simple, but I'm not sure how I'd get my addon to load before any other addon does (including vanilla A3 patches)

untold temple Jun 17, 2018, 1:30 PM

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why does it need to load before?

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use Eventhandler subclass and it wont be overwritten https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#EventHandlers..._Class

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 1:40 PM

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well, will that still affect derived classes that have already been created prior to my addon loading?

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hmm... surprisingly it works, but I'm not sure why

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especially because my addon should run last, due to

requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Data_F_Tank_Loadorder"};```

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:19 PM

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hmm... turns out it's not affecting all soldier classes, only a handful of them (such as the VR units)

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out of interest, how does ACE3 handle applying extra parameters/entries to, say, weapon classes from seemingly any addon?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:23 PM

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what do you mean by "handle"?

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They just look up the config entry like any other config entry

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:25 PM

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but seeing as the addon loading order matters, how do I ensure that my addon loads before any other addons? otherwise, any subsequent class inheritances would not have my changes applied to them, right?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:26 PM

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requiredAddons.

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you can ensure to load after. not before

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:28 PM

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okay, in my case I need to do changes to all soldier classes, and since they all inherit from CAManBase I thought I should probably do my changes there - is that the right approach so far?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:28 PM

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yeah

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new entries you add won't get deleted by other mods

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but if you modify something that other mods also modify. they might overwrite you depending on load order

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:29 PM

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cool, so I've also determined that CAManBase is created in characters_f (with the associated CfgPatch A3_Characters_F)

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so logically I need to require A3_Characters_F in my addon aswell, right?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:30 PM

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you should use the tanks loadorder to make sure all vanilla loads before you

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:30 PM

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see that's what's confusing me

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:30 PM

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"A3_Data_F_Tank_Loadorder"

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that in requiredAddons makes sure that all of Vanilla Arma loads before you

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:30 PM

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if I do that (and I have before), my changes apply to BLUFOR soldiers aswell as some VR ones, but not to civilians

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what's going on with that? am I missing something obvious?

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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check the civlians class in config viewer and check where it inherits from

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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well, it also inherits from CAManBase eventually

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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then something is overwriting your changes ¯_(ツ)_/¯

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:31 PM

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that's... messed up

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:32 PM

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if something that loads after you overwrites your changes. you cannot do anything about that

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That's just a case of "mod a is incompatible with mod b"

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:32 PM

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yeah I got that, and it makes sense because I'm adding to the EventHandler class, but my additions no longer show

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however CBA's event handlers are there... and I'm not running any other mods besides CBA and ACE3... 🤔

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:33 PM

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is your inheritance on the EventHandler class correct?

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:33 PM

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as good as it gets:

class CfgVehicles {
        class Land;
        class Man : Land {
                class EventHandlers;
        };
        class CAManBase : Man {
                class EventHandlers : EventHandlers {
                        class Cre8ive {
                                ...
                        };
                };
        };
};

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:35 PM

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CBA doesn't have inheritance on the EventHandlers class

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And Arma itself also doesn't

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class CfgVehicles {
        class Man;
        class CAManBase : Man {
                class EventHandlers {
                        class Cre8ive {
                                ...
                        };
                };
        };
};

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:37 PM

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but EventHandlers already exists on the Man class, at least on my end

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:37 PM

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yeah and? Doesn't mean it has to inherit

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https://configs.arma3.ru/162.137494/configFile/CfgVehicles/CAManBase.html there. Here you can clearly see that EventHandlers doesn't inherit like CargoTurret does

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You don't need to inherit to add entries in a class

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:37 PM

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I thought you were always supposed to fully inherit classes that you're planning on modifying

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:37 PM

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you just need to do the same inheritance as everywhere else. So if no one else inherits. You also have to not inherit

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I'm still unsure because the last time I added to a sub-class (such as EventHandlers), I ended up overwriting it and thus deleting everything that was previously in it

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Read my last sentence again

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:39 PM

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that, and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Class_Inheritance mentions you need to do it this way

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hmmm... okay

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so basically I need to have access to the config.cpp where the class is initially defined

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and then I have to do the same

grand zinc Jun 17, 2018, 5:39 PM

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config viewer should also be able to display that info

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I see your point

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thanks for the help, this is just really confusing because the results of my screw-up didn't look at all like they were coming from that (to me, anyways)

fiery vault Jun 17, 2018, 6:16 PM

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hate to bring this up again, but the thing I mentioned about overwriting a child class is exactly what's happening