#arma3_feedback_tracker | ARMA | Page 27

fickle root Jan 26, 2020, 8:01 PM

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but other helis and one single jet (buzzard) have no get out animation and AI can fire as long as they want, you still can get out

untold sky Jan 26, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I thought you just meant that the animations are so slow, that you usually get shot dead before you're done exiting

fickle root Jan 26, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I found out that it has nothing to do with damage to the vehicle itself, since when I "player allowDamage false", I still can get out, even where get out animations present

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so in my understanding, it has something to do with damage the player gets per second

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depending on vehicle, on which part of it and with what you shoot at it, you still can get out

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so like if I shoot with max 7.62 mm on Caessar civilian plane, I still can get out, despite the get out animation.
but if I shoot at it with 12.7 mm, the get out anim restarts each time a shot is taken by the plane.

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for jets and helis I need at least 20 mm (Nyx autocannon) to interrupt/make the animation restart

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haven't tried on quad bike. probably something like 5.56/5.45 mm should be enough for the get out anim to restart

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so I think, that the only way to fix it, would be to completely remove the get out animations (where present), since most of ground vehicles, most of helis and 1 jet (buzzard) don't have them and it works just fine, like in A2

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and if BI want to "simulate" that time is needed for somebody to get in, it's 100% possible to make it like in Squad, where you don't have get in animations, but when you press to get in, there is a little "clock", that indicates how many sections of it are left, before you're inside.
this "clock" is already present in Arma, when you hold space to revive or in order to do other stuff as well. And if space button is released before clock has finished - action gets canceled.
I think it's a very clever way doing so.
Hope that in next Arma it will be like in Squad.
Since get in/out anims take a lot of time to record and implement, but don't bring anything to gameplay at all.
Time/efforts/$$$ could be better spent on something more important.

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@untold sky check this video
the first in the video is Buzzard and everything is fine (without get out anim)
the second in the video is Wipeout and you can forget about getting out of it. Same applies to the rest of jets following after him in the video (with get out anim).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV-XPVNP03A

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same problem with blackfoot, hellcat, orca, caessar and quad bike
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148491 List of helicopters/planes where it's impossible to get out when under armor fire, due to get out animation and DPS (damage per second) to the player

fickle root Jan 26, 2020, 8:47 PM

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had to ask a player of our server to use just 20 mm Nyx autocannon and fire really slowly, so that there is some time between each shot fired, so one can clearly see in the video that the get out anim restarts on each shot received.
and the player also had to shoot right under the cabin of the jet, so I got enough damage, so the get out anim would restart on each shot.
If it would have been a 30/40 mm APC cannon, or even Cheetah/Tigris, the player shooting at me, could have aimed at any part of the jet for the get out anim to restart on each shot, but then I couldn't have recorded it, since the rate of fire would have been too high and one wouldn't have seen, that the get out anim restarts on each shot received.

fickle root Jan 26, 2020, 10:34 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148556 List of vehicles with wheels sinking into the ground (locally)

sterile nova Jan 27, 2020, 7:14 AM

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@fickle root I already told you to test that get out thing without 3rd party scripts/mods...

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neither I or anyone from QA was able to reproduce it on vanilla arma

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 10:09 AM

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@sterile nova I tested it on a dedicated server in virtual reality Zeus 16+2 Master Virtual Reality (NATO).
It's a BI 100% vanilla mission with 0 scripts.
Do you want me to record a video of that?

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Please, give me a example on which jet/heli you have tested, with what you have fired at it and most important at which part of vehicle yuo have fired, while the other person was trying to get out

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If it was a jet and you have used something less than 20 mm Nyx autocannon - fail - you still can get out, since not enough damage.

If you have used Nyx autocannon, but have fired at the tail or middle section of the jet - fail - you still can get out, since not enough damage.

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the person shooting at a jet (wipeout) with 20 mm autocannon must shoot exactly under the cabin of pilot, so there is enough damage to the player for the get out anim to restart

sterile nova Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 AM

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tried AH99 and ZSU39

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the person shooting at a jet (wipeout) with 20 mm autocannon must shoot exactly under the cabin of pilot, so there is enough damage to the player for the get out anim to restart* if thats true, then its really minor issue and proposed solution is completely inadequate

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 AM

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it was done so I could record it on video

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I will record it with Tigris and Blackfoot then

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on BI 100% vanilla mission

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it's same effect

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has nothing to do with our mission

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don't forget, that AI is always shooting at where you're seating - the cabin and never at the tail or middle section of jet/heli, provided AI AA is left, front or right from you, of course!

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 11:21 AM

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We used only 20 mm cannon, so the vehicles concerned didn't explode, so I could record a video.
And as 1x20 mm cannon is not as powerful as 2x35 mm from Cheetah/Tigris and can't do enough damage when shooting at tail or middle section of the vehicle, we had to shoot under the cabin, where the player is seating

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 1:38 PM

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@sterile nova recorded extra for you guys.
no custom mission, no additional scripts.
100% reproducible whenever you want.
ZSU39 vs. AH-99
ZSU39 vs. A-164 Wipeout
100% vanilla BI virtual reality NATO mission (no mods) with Zeus on dedicated server
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEKP7_OWc2o

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same applies to all vehicles listed in my ticket

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 2:47 PM

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if you guys are thinking, that the problem with missing smoke as commander and missile warning sound is also related to our custom mission, I can record a million of videos on your own missions, with 0 scripts involved, if you don't believe me

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I just want the only game I've been playing since 2001 to be as polished/good as it can get and I don't mind spending months on searching for bugs, finding ways to repro them 100% for everyone, if it can help you in fixing them

untold sky Jan 27, 2020, 2:52 PM

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reyhard already said that has been reported in the past.. so..

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noone thought that

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 2:55 PM

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if it can't be fixed with a work around, because of how it's done in engine, then well, we will wait for next BI title.
But if there is a way to fix it, it should definitely be fixed, as much as possible. May be it won't be perfect, but at least eliminate as many problematic cases as possible, if possible

untold sky Jan 27, 2020, 2:57 PM

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It would be pretty low on my prio list.
If its engine issue then see what KK might say, but there are more pressing issues really

fickle root Jan 27, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I regret, that I've been playing A2 until 2018 and only then have switched to A3, when physix got more stable, sound engine replaced + visual face-lifting + DLCs that finally added enough content to choose from.
If I would have started to play A3 in 2013 and would have continued, I would have reported a lot more stuff and much much sooner, when A3 still was played the most, like 2013 + 2014.
I understand, that now most of knowledgeable BI team members are working on next title and not many of them are left to continue the maintenance of A3, but I'm still willing to help anyways, as much as I can, with hope, that as many bugs as possible will be fixed.

untold sky Jan 29, 2020, 7:45 AM

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CfgVehicles class has entry icon = "iconManEngineer"; role = "Sapper"; for I_engineer_F

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They are seperate icons and should stay seperate. The only bug I see is why its not displaying both icons

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team leader is a role?
That is already indicated by the ordering in the unit thingy, so.. doesn't really need a icon

desert trench Jan 29, 2020, 2:35 PM

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texture = "#(argb,8,8,3)color(0,0,0,0)"";";

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p:\a3\structures_f\civ\constructions\data\scaffolding_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\a_fuelstation_build_lod3.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\a_fuelstation_build_metal.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\a_fuelstation_shed_lod3.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\a_fuelstation_shed_lod3_f.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\destruct_full_a_fuelstation_build_metal.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f\ind\fuelstation\data\destruct_half_a_fuelstation_build_metal.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_-_Copy\civ\constructions\data\scaffolding_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev_1i1_metal_plates.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev_1l1_lod3.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev_2l_metal_plates.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev_3i2_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev2_01a_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev2_01b_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev2_03b_metal_plates_2.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\civilian\houses\data\housev2_05_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\commercial\fuelstation_03\data\a_fuelstation_build_metal.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\commercial\fuelstation_03\data\a_fuelstation_shed_lod3_f.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\industrial\houses\data\housev2_03_metal_plates_2.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\industrial\houses\data\housev2_03_mlod.rvmat
p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\military\airfield\data\mil_controltower_mlod.rvmat

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in case anyone is brave enough to rebin all these

untold sky Jan 29, 2020, 2:37 PM

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p:\a3\structures_f_enoch\military\airfield\data\mil_controltower_mlod
_mlod? 🤔

p:\a3\structuresf-_Copy\civ\constructions\data\scaffolding_mlod
structuresf-_Copy ? 🤔

desert trench Jan 29, 2020, 2:38 PM

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_mlod is for last LOD i believe

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the copy folder shouldnt by me as arma3p extracted it

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hm from 22th actually. not sure what happened there. our build pipeline is automated

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anyhow unrelated to the rvmat issue

untold sky Jan 29, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Well. Bug reports go onto the feedback tracker, not into this channel.

trim acorn Jan 29, 2020, 5:02 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148612 Relating to "STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION" Error code. Full zip file is in the comments.

untold sky Jan 29, 2020, 5:54 PM

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@trim acorn bluetooth headset connects via USB?
Did you try without it?
Crash is in rendering, maybe something bad with video drivers, but yours look current

trim acorn Jan 29, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Well, the bluetooth headset is connected via a usb powered... circle thingy... but I’ll be sure to check it out. I’ll also double check my drivers later

fickle root Jan 30, 2020, 4:56 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148667 List of weapons with mag visually missing when spawned on ground in editor
Note: only Rahim 7.62 mm and MAR-10 .338 have their mags visually present - see last screenshot link

When you take the weapon in hands -> it visually has the mag.
When you drop the weapon on ground -> it visually has the mag.

I myself respawn without backpack, vest etc. So I have 0 ammo for any of weapons spawned when I take them in hands.
But when I take them in hands, mag or rocket is instantly there, the one, which comes attached to the weapon by default, despite it visually missing when spawn on ground.

untold sky Jan 30, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Do the guns on the ground actually have a mag in them? And it doesn't show? Or do they just have no mag?

fickle root Jan 30, 2020, 5:03 PM

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weapons have mag visually, once you take them in hands, and mag remains also visible when you drop weapons onto the ground

untold sky Jan 30, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I mean. If you take them in hands it will also load a magazine if you have one in inventory

fickle root Jan 30, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I had nothing in inventory, weapons have only 1 mag, that comes attached to them by default, but 99% don't have it, visually

fickle root Jan 30, 2020, 6:24 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148668 All AK family weapons' charging handle should not go in rear position when mag empty

civic wren Jan 30, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Yep... when the reload animation starts with the removal of the empty magazine it magically sends it forward so that the charging animation works too btw... Good catch

fickle root Jan 30, 2020, 7:19 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148615
CMR-76 6.5 mm charging handle collides with shells ejection plate texture, going in rear position when mag empty + handle should not go in rear position when mag empty

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 12:35 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T66117#2018869
Please, finally fix the charging handle from moving on each shot like a jackhammer on TRG-20, TRG-21 and TRG-21 EGLM, since it doesn't need to be moved/touched even once/ at all, because there is a "button" you can press instead, behind the mag itself, after loading new mag, before shooting.
See video proof attached.
And the charging handle should also not go to rear position when mag empty, but stay in front position!

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 1:56 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148679
Mk20, Mk20C and Mk20 EGLM charging handle should not move on each shot like a jackhammer, but only once, after loading new mag, before shooting
See video proof attached.
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148682
Navid 9.3 mm charging handle should not move to rear position when mag empty, since HK121/MG5 charging handle does not
See video proof attached.
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148683
LIM-85 5.56 mm charging handle should not move to rear position when mag empty, since M249 charging handle does not
See video proof attached.
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148686
Mk200 6.5 mm charging handle should move on each shot, since Stoner 99 LMG charging handle does
See video proof attached.

untold sky Jan 31, 2020, 7:20 AM

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It shouldn't because this other gun doesn't do that

It should because this other gun does too

What kinda bug report is that?

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 8:43 AM

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It is exactly how I named the tickets, because of exact problems present with each of weapons tested.
Nothing wrong with this.

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In case you don't know, the weapons that I'm refering to, are the real counterparts of the ones present in game. So...

untold sky Jan 31, 2020, 9:15 AM

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The closest counterparts. They are still fantasy non-real weapons

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:20 AM

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If you check videos attached to tickets, you will see, that specific weapons the tickets are about, look 100% same as their real counterparts. Not just close enough.

rapid wing Jan 31, 2020, 9:33 AM

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imho they based on real gun so yeah , its just realism and accurate presentation

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 9:35 AM

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mags are not visible on ground models due to mag proxies

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I don't think it's going to be fixed

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a3\weapons_f_contact\data\dummyitem_muzzleantenna_02_f.p3d: No geometry and no visual shape - thats false positive rpt log - there is plenty of them in game. It could be disabled since it doesn't serve any purpose

rapid wing Jan 31, 2020, 9:39 AM

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so far if you got loaded mag then it should be on ground even with mag proxy

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:40 AM

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reyhard but on Rahim and MAR-10 mags are visible on ground

rapid wing Jan 31, 2020, 9:42 AM

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i think this is Eden limitation? due of mag proxy

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because if you do it manually you get the mag with the weapon

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those guns that have it , dont have the mag proxy

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so thats why

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Also concerning the antenna thing, it's not a simple rpt message, since it's also the same message I get on screen, when I try to spawn this antenna thing in editor.
So I have golden/yellow square on the ground, but no object visible, which confirms the message that pops up

rapid wing Jan 31, 2020, 9:44 AM

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previously when mag proxies didnt exist , all guns had mags in them

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:47 AM

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It's not game breaking with mags, but I felt I had to make a ticket about this.
Otherwise, most of the time you take weapon from dead body, ammo crate or via arsenal.
So when you have it in your hands and also when you drop it, it will still have the mag visually

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 9:47 AM

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@fickle root they don't have mag proxies

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:48 AM

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I understand this, now. There is more important stuff to fix.

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 9:48 AM

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and how are you trying to spawn it?

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:50 AM

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I selected in editor weapons section and you have it on the ground, so you can take it right from there when you spawn a unit as well

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Not spawned via console and not placed via mission file

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 9:53 AM

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You are running game without contact?

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:54 AM

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I have all the DLCs

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But yes, not launching via contact button

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Just play button

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Can you test it with Contact enabled?

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 9:57 AM

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You're talking about antenna or mags?

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via Contact

📎 Arma3_x64_2020-01-31_11-01-27-327.jpg

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lol, launched contact, I have the antenna visually.
relaunched "without" contact, simply by clicking on "play" and now also have it visually in the normal/vanilla editor.
but was not visually there and with the error message before.
i never pressed play contact button since Contact release

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is it same like in A2 CO, where you had to launch A2 prior to OA, so there was no message about Chernarus, BTR-90 and other stuff missing?

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Nah, now I know those are just 2 files which weren't copied to Enoch folder when platformization of ESD happened

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 10:09 AM

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so "bug" or no bug?

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otherwise I can ask to close the ticket

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or reuse the ticket for another bug, by changing its title and content

sterile nova Jan 31, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Changing name would be best

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no visual shape is false positive message but *Cannot open object * is not

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 10:15 AM

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oh and another thing!
it was saying SD Experimental Antenna (390-500 MHz) in editor, before I launched Contact.
after launching Contact and relaunching vanilla, now it's saying Spectrum Device Experimental in vanilla editor (as well as in Contact editor).
For other antennas, it was also saying operating frequencies range. Now for the rest of antennas, names changed as well (after launching Contact) and operating frequencies are not mentioned anymore.

fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 10:35 AM

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this is how I've proceeded to check mags visibility on weapons lying on the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndpB8oNo6U

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is there any chance that qilin's dark color will be fixed?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T137524 - Qilin LSV's RVMATs make it darker than other CSAT vehicles
https://i.imgur.com/8VVMD5D.jpg

Beagle said: The qilin has the right texture gamma value abs actually blends in into the terrain color.
It's all the older textures that are wrong after the "visual upgrade" in 1.64. All old CSAT hex vehicles are way to bright, almost like winter camo.

But for example Angara, that also appeared only in April 2018 isn't dark at all, compared to Qilin and has (visually) the same color brightness as Varsuk from 2013, despite it also having newer textures (1.82) than pre visual 1.64 update CSAT vehicles.
https://i.imgur.com/XnD4yyI.jpg

Even Xi'an, that is from exactly same time (APEX) as Qilin has no problems with dark color, compared to Qilin.
https://i.imgur.com/CHJJqQz.jpg

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fickle root Jan 31, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Please, fix the ability to see through deployed smoke when looking through Strider's windows, being outside of it.
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T137283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU6d0yi7Aaw

Hunter and Ifrit don't have this problem with their windows.

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civic wren Feb 1, 2020, 1:55 AM

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@fickle root Just discovered that the Yugo AK's lock the bolt back... thinking those were the ones that Bohemia checked out... Though the in game weapons should still not do that 😉

civic wren Feb 1, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Yeah, they definitely based the Vanilla ARMA 3 AKs on the Yugo ones... Not ideal tbh

rapid wing Feb 1, 2020, 6:49 AM

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@civic wren how did you figured that out?

sterile nova Feb 1, 2020, 10:36 AM

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@civic wren more likely on Czech samopals

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Since you know, it's Czech company :p

fickle root Feb 1, 2020, 12:18 PM

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reyhard if I check all Livonia buildings and make a list with screens or/and vids for problematic ones, view blocking missing on some and complete view blocking on others, despite several normal windows with glass present from player's perspective, do you think it will be fixed?

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Here some exemples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLxDUkVJwOo
https://i.imgur.com/qLrjlO9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JfwVjEz.jpg

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I don't really care about Livonia, but since Livonia buildings are used on Cherno 2020, which will be used on a lot great servers and missions, it's a problem then

placid cradle Feb 12, 2020, 1:49 PM

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a more meta question i guess, but is the feedback tracker something BI developed themselves, or is it part of a 3rd party package?

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Currently looking for something similar for my work

untold sky Feb 12, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Its called Phabricator

placid cradle Feb 12, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Dedmen know's everything

ornate marlin Feb 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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CUP uses the same. It's free

deft marsh Feb 13, 2020, 11:20 AM

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@sterile nova Would having class inheritance and mis-spelling a class by type-case create another class entirely but with a name that uses different Case?
e.g.
CAWorld contains the class Clutter - Note: the upper-case C.
In the CfgWorlds entry for Enoch it inherits from CAWorld, so by definition and inheritance it has class Clutter { //stuff };.
Within class Enoch it also contains it's own clutter class but it is defined as class clutter { //stuff }; - Note: lower-case c, all other BI terrains use class Clutter { //stuff }; within their configs.
You would assume it would over-write any duplicates in CAWorld > class Clutter { //stuff }; and it would have one class Clutter { //stuff };.
But in the in the case of Enoch it has two clutter classes, you can see this in the config-viewer in-game by navigating to CfgWorlds > Enoch and noting two clutter entries.

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here's an image to show you.

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sterile nova Feb 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

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nope, it's config viewer bug

deft marsh Feb 13, 2020, 11:23 AM

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would it be due to the case in the configs though?

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it just seems odd it has 2x classes of the same name 🙂

sterile nova Feb 13, 2020, 11:47 AM

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afair thats not the main cause

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as I mentioned, it's just config viewer bug - don't forget it's scripted thing

desert trench Feb 13, 2020, 12:40 PM

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can confirm. case is irrelevant here

calm smelt Feb 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/
is reporting a Phabricator Setup Error - Can Not Connect to MySQL error.
Image for reference: https://i.imgur.com/LeJv4KE.png

untold sky Feb 22, 2020, 9:58 AM

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ugh? again? 🙄
Its weekend now. Don't expect anything

calm smelt Feb 23, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Issue above has been fixed.

spare otter Feb 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

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The zeroing for the Katiba on the ARCO is a bit messed, one needs to pretty much aim with the 400m line to hit the target exactly at 300m, 100m tip chevron not working either for actual 100m engagements needing to aim with the 300m reference

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both for the Katiba and Katiba carbine

sterile nova Feb 26, 2020, 10:56 AM

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ARCO is zeroed for MX series

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there is also a AK variant

spare otter Feb 26, 2020, 9:25 PM

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shouldn't it be RCO for MX, ERCO for SPAR, ARCO for katiba?

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even then tho, the zeroing doesn't match MX either

near cedar Feb 27, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Supports module doesn't work with spetsnaz. Command's voice protocol is still played in farsi, and in fact you can't even connect the support provider to a vehicle that has Russian troops in it.

But if you sync the module to an empty Vic, then place Russians in, the inital dialogue is played in farsi. Then when the units request and reply, the dialogue is correctly in Russian.

near cedar Feb 27, 2020, 3:49 PM

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ah, so i need to specify a russian unit as custom HQ to make it work 🤔

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 1:07 PM

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airportSide CTD ticket created:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149781

solid marten Mar 14, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Gonna have a look

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

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And problem identified. Just a couple minutes

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Very nice find Lou, keep it comin

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 1:54 PM

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if you could also fix the weird output, that's be gold 😄

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 1:58 PM

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info? what weird?

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 1:58 PM

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see my note on https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/airportSide#Notes

airportSide

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random sides are thrown when the airportId doesn't exist

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 2:00 PM

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yeah thats part of the bug

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 2:00 PM

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oh noice

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 2:03 PM

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kinda funny actually that these don't crash the game too, they should 😄

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Arma is too robust

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 2:04 PM

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/s

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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btw @untold sky , may I ask what was the issue? :3

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 6:16 PM

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fnc_airportSide = {
_array = [];
side (_array select _this)
};

_side = 123131312 call fnc_airportSide;

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 6:16 PM

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then how 😅

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Created FT ticket T149788 for addWeaponGlobal/addMagazineGlobal
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149788

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@solid marten setPosASL2 exists in this ticket, I won't create a new one
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T78650

next to come: say3D and createSoundSource

solid marten Mar 14, 2020, 6:39 PM

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setPosASL2 is setPosWorld

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so I say add note and leave it be

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@gray wharf ^^^^^

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 6:44 PM

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isn't it possible to "redirect" setPosASL2 call to setPosWorld?
if not, roger that, it will die a peaceful death

solid marten Mar 14, 2020, 6:47 PM

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That command was dead for ages or forever, no one used it, there is no point making alias just add a note possibly

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 6:51 PM

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ok, will do

say3D and createSoundSource already have a ticket here
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T131341

I made a repro mission though, that I can upload

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added a repro mission and steps to this ^ ticket
@solid marten @untold sky

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 7:43 PM

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and note added to setPosASL2

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now, on to the https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Broken_Functions category :p

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149790 created

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 9:18 PM

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anyone know that bug where you have a dead guy on the ground, try to loot from his vest/backpack, but just nothing happens on drag&drop? I would loooove if anyone could find a reliable repro for how that happens

gray wharf Mar 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I didn't even know the bug, sorry :-
MP related I suppose

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 9:26 PM

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yeah. Not the one in vehicle. Outside of vec

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same exists inside vehicle and happens almost always there

daring wagon Mar 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84939 setRandomLip, lip movement is way too fast.

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T125411 (Sound changing when opening the map)
This bug has been annoying me since Alpha, especially when using a vehicle whose external sound is way louder than the interior one. I hope there is a way to fix it.

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 11:42 PM

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yeah that map sound is really annoying, your pos just stays fixed. But I assume it can't be fixed, if noone did after all these years

daring wagon Mar 14, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Too bad, I thought you or KK could look into it since it's 100% reproduceable and seems like a trivial thing (Not thinking that it's trivial to fix)

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About that inventory issue. I think I can reproduce the issue where the player can't move stuff around while in a vehicle, but that's singleplayer.

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So not sure if that's useful

untold sky Mar 14, 2020, 11:56 PM

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well we could

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where the player can't move stuff around while in a vehicle
That one I can already repro myself

daring wagon Mar 14, 2020, 11:58 PM

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I thought so.

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:04 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T121797 delete3DENEntities doesn't create a history entry, therefore deleting an entity by script is not reversible. I feel like that's not how it should behave, since all other 3DEN commands create a history entry.

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:07 PM

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TIL collect3DENHistory is a thing 😄

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:08 PM

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😄

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and I learned what TIL means

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:10 PM

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delete thing looks easy, I'll take a looksie

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Thanks!

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Hm, looks like it does add the history entry... OH! Found it
Mh.

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Fixable? 😄

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I assume the progammer writing this thought "oh, uh... mh... I guess I'll do that later" and now I'm here thinking the same

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Please don't 🙂

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I mean I'm thinking the first part

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Ah got it. Easy fix actually

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Nice

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Actually its deleting everything twice 😄 ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 12:49 PM

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😅

uncut briar Mar 17, 2020, 2:28 PM

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the more you know

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Found the reason why you cannot move items in inventory while in a vehicle 👏

gray wharf Mar 17, 2020, 8:51 PM

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w00t w00t!!

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plz share pseudocode insight?

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 8:52 PM

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no

gray wharf Mar 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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okay ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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is "what was the reason" answerable?

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 8:57 PM

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player inside vehicle is kind of simulation disabled, can't move items if you don't have simulation

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Thats been a constant issue since early 2015 😄 I think its time to finally fix this

raven hollow Mar 17, 2020, 9:01 PM

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oh boy

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 9:30 PM

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The priviledge of being a dev. Playing Arma and being like "oh, well this is annoying..." and then just fixing that a week later because you feel like it 😄

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👀

📎 2020-03-17_22-36-54.mp4

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📎 621971329934950400.png

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 10:35 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84691 can be closed. It's about the inventory issue.

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Thanks, if you have time to waste you can help find duplicates of that and link them in your ticket

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Wilco

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Really would like some community FT moderators :3

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I would volunteer 😄

gray wharf Mar 17, 2020, 10:41 PM

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oh so as soon as one becomes official, he wants the community to work, hmmm? 😄

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 10:43 PM

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No, I've been delegating work to you for a long time now :D I just post wiki stuff in channel and someone takes it

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I think it's really nice to have a dev who's so close to community. Well see over the next couple months what comes of it

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I don't expect you to be around much as soon as you started working 22/24h on Enfusion 😛

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@untold sky When you worked on the inventory issue, did you find any clues about why sometimes items get duplicated? There seem to be quite a lot of issues about it

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Duplication is a whole other beast. If you find a reliable repro for a dupe bug I can look at it

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Ic

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I added the related tickets to the inventory ticket

untold sky Mar 17, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Finally understood why reliable repros are so important. Needle in a haystack situation otherwise.
Thanks o7

daring wagon Mar 17, 2020, 11:21 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149837

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Eden Editor is not properly initialized when starting mission with start up parameter mission file (editor)

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Don't be sad, It's 100% reproduceable 😄

livid sleet Mar 17, 2020, 11:55 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T128253
Improper slingloading locality causes load drops on desync /w repro

fickle root Mar 18, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Dedmen this as well
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T75338 - Duping any items by right clicking and dragging at the same time /w repro
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T65900 - Weapons stop working (inventory issue)

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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@fickle root can you still repro the duping? It is from 2014...

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The other ticket is from 2013, and the last comment from 2014 says it should already be fixed. Please don't waste my time or I'll just ignore you in the future.

gray wharf Mar 18, 2020, 9:23 AM

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I would love this config one to be fixed, too
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T125949
anim issue where if you move while "high prone" (sitting) it moves you back to lying down

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(repro 500% of course)

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 9:25 AM

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config one? Proposed fix?

gray wharf Mar 18, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I don't know 😄
all I know is that it is an anim linking issue (and that it used to work (way) before)

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Animation Bug When Unconscious Unarmed (minor?)
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T123216 can be bothering, exists since unconscious introduction in Apex - if you have weapons, it's fine - else you're stuck on your back as the turtle you are now

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Oh, that's the reason I had those issues with my revive script. The more you know...

desert trench Mar 18, 2020, 11:16 AM

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i have units stuck in unconscious even when armed

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my workaround is:

    [_unit] spawn
    {
        _unit = _this select 0;

        sleep ((random 1) + 1);

        while {(toLower (animationState _unit)) in ["unconsciousrevivedefault_a","unconsciousrevivedefault_b","unconsciousrevivedefault_c"]} do
        {
            sleep 0.1;

            _unit switchMove "";//TODO: improve with actual transition
        };
    };```

gray wharf Mar 18, 2020, 11:30 AM

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switchMove "UnconsciousOutProne" ? @desert trench

desert trench Mar 18, 2020, 11:32 AM

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will try. ty

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Not sure if worth a ticket, but if the foliage is hidden in Eden by pressing CTRL+G, the FPS are actually worse compared to when foliage is on. I'd expect it to be better. Not sure if there's something wrong though

desert trench Mar 18, 2020, 5:29 PM

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maybe less occlusion = more to render

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 5:31 PM

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That could be.

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:13 PM

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@untold sky I wanted to ask since you have been flirting with the inventory UI lately.... What are the reasons why there is no "Transfer/Take all" icon on the inventory screen? Something like what hallyG did with https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/208648-release-hals-equipment-store-v14/?page=1 where you can choose any close container to transfer your purchases to.

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:14 PM

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reason is no dev found time for it

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as is the reason for everything

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i have something planned, we'll see

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The reason why I am asking is because OLD MAN trully needs such feature to move stuff around quickly

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:14 PM

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yep.

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Thank you for having something planed for that!

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Even if it doesn't come to fruition it is great knowing devs are aware of player's needs

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:15 PM

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does old man have many different items, or many of same type?

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:16 PM

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the example could be: I found 20 medicine items on a container, and I want to quickly transfer those not to my character but to my vehicle that is 2 meters away from the container

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So players just choose the destination (vehicle) and then click "Transfer all"

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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That would be handy ❤️

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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instead of moving items manually to their uniform etc and then to the car

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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medicine items are they different types, or a single stack of 20?

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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single stack... but just an example...

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Good

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:18 PM

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think overthrow... you are selling bananas and need to move 1000 bananas to the truck.... it would take you a million years to do that manually

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It would help OLD MAN but actually most missions specially modded ones... VINDICTA too...

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:19 PM

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my idea is button to transfer 5/whole stack at once

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But there's alot of planning involved in that

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Just out of curiosity, any chance to see more filter options?

spare vine Mar 18, 2020, 7:27 PM

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probably better question: any chance to see (more) methods to add custom filter options

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:31 PM

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filter?

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Yeah, the combo box when looking at an ammo box which allows the user to filter for weapons, objects, magazines

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:33 PM

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there is a combo box?

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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yes 😄

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📎 unknown.png

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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huh 🤔

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learn somethin new every day

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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🤣

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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what alternate filters could you think of? Scripted filters won't be a thing

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ideally all filters which are available in arsenal

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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uh. nope then

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Not possible?

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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way too complex

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I see

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Then no filters I guess

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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and considering I didn't even know that combobox existed, probably not enough value 😄

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 7:37 PM

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True, would be nice to have if it was easy to add, but not worth investing countless hours in

gray wharf Mar 18, 2020, 7:39 PM

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#nofilter

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Well going back to my suggestion, I believe that exile already has a take all button

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https://www.armaholic.com/datas/users/arma3-for-exile-mod-v05-alpha1-4_4.jpg

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the thing is that TAKE ALL button transfers all items from the ground/container to the player's uniform/vest/backpack

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I am suggesting another button to select the destination of the transfer all button (like HallyG's Store UI allows players to do)

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that alone would be a godSend

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Also, @untold sky said something about moving items in a stack of 5... I suggest just moving all items as long as the destination container has the space to accommodate the items, else just transfer all the items that fit in the container and leave the rest on the original location....

untold sky Mar 18, 2020, 7:48 PM

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oof, space to accomodate. more problems yey

sleek scaffold Mar 18, 2020, 7:51 PM

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hahahaha, just some additional checks!

civic wren Mar 18, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Maybe look at all those survival mods' trader scripts that transfer bought items to vehicles or gear and drop the rest on the floor...?

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I guess dedmen is working directly in the engine code, not much use to look at scripted stuff 😄

civic wren Mar 18, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Ah well, much easier to do then... should be in the next release I assume 😉

daring wagon Mar 18, 2020, 8:05 PM

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You heard him! Get moving soldier 😛

steady panther Mar 19, 2020, 3:08 AM

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meh take all buttons make things way too easy

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risk vs reward of looting in the middle of combat

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 5:30 AM

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@steady panther You can have a loading bar (like the CBA loading bar) after clicking the TRANSFER ALL button and perhaps additionally play an animation to remedy your issue... no need to manually click 100 items just to destroy your mouse in the process.

steady panther Mar 19, 2020, 5:40 AM

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for stuff where you move 100s of items would it not be better to have separate logistics system alltogether?

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like moving the actual crates of stuff etc

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although there is already the rearm at X action which is kinda the grab all you can type of deal

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rarely use that myself though

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 7:33 AM

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risk vs reward of looting in the middle of combat
@steady panther
Add a difficulty setting to disable it lul

steady panther Mar 19, 2020, 7:41 AM

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not a bad idea

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:42 PM

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@untold sky what you do is only engine and config related, right?

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 1:43 PM

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only engine, I prefer not to touch the other stuff unless someone forces me to

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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please, take a look at this, because it's so annoying since forever
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T66178

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 1:44 PM

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it's… "cosmetic"

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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no, it's not

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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its ~~cosmetic~~. low priority

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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the screen is only to show the problem

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 1:46 PM

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oh I actually read the description, indeed
not the same range between joystick and keyboard, ok ok

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:46 PM

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with a joystick the left/right limit is for some reason lower than for keyboard

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so you use a joystick and you're artificially handicappted for no reason

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I'd allocate about 2-3 hours to that bug to find the fault because I don't know that key stuff.
I only have 8 hours per week. So, low priority, maybe someday when I'm lazy and all of the hundreds of higher prio tickets are fixed

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:47 PM

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are there really that many config/engine things to fix?

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I thought most of them were 3D/textures

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Dedmen could you then please check A3 files for 'IntelGenuine'?
because in A2 (OA/CO), there are some files with this (I think it was .exe), which if it detects that it's not IntelGenuine (AMD CPU), it runs stuff using the oldest possible set of instructions, which results in poor performance for AMD, despite AMD now supporting same sets of instructions as Intel (namely SSE, AVX and AVX2 etc.)

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I remember that, the intel lib thing, search is running will take a while 😄

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:57 PM

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if such entries found, can something be done/changed?

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 1:58 PM

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depends on where it is

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 1:58 PM

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ah, ok

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you're still waiting for next Ryzen with your 3rd gen Intel?

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 2:00 PM

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?

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 2:01 PM

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or you have a new system by now?

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 2:01 PM

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I'm waiting for money mainly

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 2:01 PM

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)))

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 2:01 PM

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and I have AMD buldozer

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 2:02 PM

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then this IntelGenuine stuff if possible to somehow avoid/change it, it will benefit you )

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I'm almost 100% confident there is IntelGenuine somewhere in A3 )

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Dedmen, but there is the 'rearm' button when you're near a body and if I remember correctly, when you select it, it will take what's possible from body inventory and transfer to your inventory, provided space available

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I know. Just got told that yesterday

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 2:11 PM

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if only there was a possibility to adjust intensity/brightness of NVG or have it from ACE in vanilla...

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because in A3, NVG is not that horrible/useless anymore as it was in A2, but still very problematic

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also what I've observed, is when you select HDR standard instead of low (in video settings), when you shoot from AA 2x35 mm, Wipeout (A-10) cannon or other stuff, FPS drops dramatically

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no such problem with HDR low

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and the weaker the system, the more it drops

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good demo here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPjKDIYdPM0

YouTube

Lex Lex__1

ArmA 3 FPS

▶ Play video

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same still can be observed even now, with a RTX 2070 and i7-7700K

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also when you look at water instead of land or sky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln5nomoRMdo

YouTube

Lex Lex__1

ArmA 3 05 03 2017 00 15 03 04

Falling FPS 25-30, when the optical sight looks at the surface of the water.

▶ Play video

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Dedmen, found anything 'IntelGenuine'?

spare vine Mar 19, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Let the poor guy work in peace, he's already busy doing 10 things at the same time

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 4:36 PM

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No I didn't. If I had I would've told you

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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good news then!

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@spare vine I don't ping/DM him!

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 4:56 PM

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still ^^ hehe

spare vine Mar 19, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I never said you did... I just mentioned it because Dedmen already said he would look into it, so no need to "remind" him or ask for an update within 2-3 hours...

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Groove just has the natural tendency to be annoying 😄

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 6:29 PM

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well, if I wouldn't have insisted in a lot of cases, not only concerning Arma, there wouldn't have been as many positive changes

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better than crying on servers between players and do nothing else

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how much stuff was finally fixed by reminding it from time to time

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because now that A3 is almost EOL, more stuff, that before was considered as low priority, since there were much much more important problems, can be reminded and have more chance to finally be fixed

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because generally in Arma it's like this:
when the game is beta or some time after release, devs have more important thing to fix
when the game is almsot EOL, devs are concentrated on the next title

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so a lot bugs are never gonna be fixed

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 6:35 PM

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What I really need, is someone on feedback tracker who has the time to remove all the garbage, and assign correct priorities to tickets

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But I don't think thats ever gonna happen

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 6:35 PM

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have stopped some time ago

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will see if I can continue

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had like 5k tickets filtered already

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and like 3-4k remaining

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 6:36 PM

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"filtered" doesn't help me if they are still open and someone marked them as high prio even though they are garbage

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 6:37 PM

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hundreds of them were already closed, reminded/checked by me

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there is a lot of stuff I simply don't know and can't check, so I skip it simply

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maybe some of that is already fixed

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I have a lot of time now and I think I will continue with tickets

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a lot of immediate and high tickets were closed recently after checking them

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if only I had your knowledge + the time I have...

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 6:41 PM

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exactly that's the problem. I also did the FT checking once, for a couple weeks. Commented on hundreds of tickets. But there was noone on BI's side to actually take action like closing or merging duplicates. so all the time went to waste

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and a "this can be closed" command on a ticket has no worth to me looking for tickets to do, because the ticket is still open and still clutters my list.

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 6:42 PM

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well, what I did recently is checking tickets and commenting on those that are to be closed, and then sent link to my profil to dwarden

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and he closed all the tickets marked as to be closed, because checked/fixed

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but dwarden told me that I should bother him only once I have a lot of them, so he can do it at once and so I don't disturb him for like each ticket

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I think I will continue today or starting from tomorrow

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it's very time consuming to open literally each ticket, read, see if still reproduceable etc

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since most of tickets have not that self explanatory title and no good description or repro

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a lot of duplicates with bad titles and only by opening and reading them you can know it's a duplicate

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since most people don't know the exact words for specific problems they encounter, so searching by using keywords is useless often time

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also often I check 1 ticket and while checking it, find other bugs, that sometimes need several other tickets )

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 6:52 PM

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it's very time consuming
Exactly why I tend to not do it.
When I look at FT I sort by newest. which ofc misses all the long standing issues, like that vehicle inventory thing I fixed on... monday

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 7:02 PM

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My english is not good enough and I don't know how are called a lot of game mechanics, user interface elements or different vehicles parts.
And imagine me making a ticket about a problem )
And somebody then trying to look for it using keywords )))

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Description inside ticket can be good, but you have to open the ticket and read it )

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The most annoying is that I found some important things transfered to Wishlist, probably it was done when a lot of tickets were opened on daily basis.
Probably to keep number of open tickets to the minimum

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 7:16 PM

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bump on the say3D bug, T131341

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 7:44 PM

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no bumping allowed.

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 7:45 PM

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muh

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 7:46 PM

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trust me that I won't forget things, the chance that I forget is only high. not very high.

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 7:48 PM

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yet you recently told someone to bump for you to look up things 😋

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so you are taking over this very channel now? 🙂

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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this mine, goway

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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fite mi

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 8:18 PM

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dear @untold sky , what is your take on this matter: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T124140 ?

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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already on my list afaik

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for Phronk's AFAR

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didn't know there was a ticket

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Yeah and it is a quite old ticket too: Mar 30 2017

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Phronk will freak out if you manage to fix/add that!!

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Ye I know, maybe next week

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Anyway, thank you! Our EOL saviour!

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

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is this fixed? can't check
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T117702

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

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quick check

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ah scrollback doesn't reach 😄

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BWMod on linux server 8afc9b723ea56ac19b669db243f8c88ef0fdcbcb on my windows client 8afc9b723ea56ac19b669db243f8c88ef0fdcbcb
guess fixed then

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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commented it

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can please remove Picture in Picture from video settings left bottom, where now can only select a specific setting, like very low, low, standard etc and move it to the right upper corner, where we have objects and overall distance?

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because now we can only select PiP "quality", which limits the PiP display distance to a fixed value, not accounting for view distance

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 8:51 PM

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no I can not please

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 8:51 PM

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so even if set your view distance to like 5000m and have your PiP qulity at ultra, I think, you're limited to 2000m PiP only

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after this you have only haze

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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we only have so many Arma devs, I think we should prioritise

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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so moving from low, standard etc to a bar, you will still have same distances set, depending on video preset choosen, but at least you could increase it further + you could at least know to what the PiP distance corresponds
since setting it to low or ultra, you don't know the distance it will display. Only by trying it

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well, ok

untold sky Mar 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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stop trying to push so many nonsense non-issues that are either wrong or that don't matter or that noone else cares about.

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you are just wasting my time

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I see what you mean, but different people have different needs

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you don't need it, others do

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I know you're more on stuff that if implemented, won't require additional scripts, like new commands etc

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please...
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T143578 ❤️ - Lou's ticket

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 9:04 PM

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oh yes - I forgot about it, but I like it (I made a script in this regard)

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but you unsubscribed in January è_é

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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have it in my bookmarks, have more than 1000 tickets bookmarked )))

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 9:05 PM

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you are forgiven 😄

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 9:06 PM

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need to bookmark stuff, in case I find a duplicate, so I can link )

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have also to remember it )

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@fickle root Everytime I say something you appear with a wall of text! I am a little scared now, are you stalking me or something ? 😱

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 9:15 PM

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You don't want to know!!

sleek scaffold Mar 19, 2020, 9:15 PM

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😩 💩

livid sleet Mar 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Too many of the FT issues are just generic this thing is bad, what if we did this, etc. I'd rather see well written tickets with reproducible steps get pushed torwards a dev. Anything that basically requires adding new functionality or significantly changing functionality I assume is not going to be looked at or will require some form of authorization to allocate time for it. There are so many little bugs in Arma (like the vehicle inventory bug) that need good steps to reproduce and a dev to look at it and go oh oops, this is broken and it wouldn't take much to fix this now that I've looked at it.

fickle root Mar 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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@livid sleet we let you do it the proper way, since you know better how to do it right

gray wharf Mar 19, 2020, 11:46 PM

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@fickle root he doesn't criticise every and all reports; but there sure are dull reports like "I had a bug" or "someone hacked my server, pls fix"

daring wagon Mar 20, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Tickets like these would get removed if we had members from the community manage FT 🙂

spare vine Mar 20, 2020, 12:20 AM

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But also a lot of "deal with it" responses from community, because everyone who's been in this world a lot longer learns to bypass the quirks of the engine or uses mods to solve issues.

desert trench Mar 20, 2020, 2:57 AM

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@waxen tundra needs to promote some community FT managers 😉

ornate marlin Mar 20, 2020, 7:10 AM

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I second that.

gray wharf Mar 20, 2020, 8:11 AM

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"if the company won't deal with it…" *lifts his sleeves* "we will"

ornate marlin Mar 20, 2020, 8:36 AM

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gondor rushes for help because they thought the blinding brightness of Lou's underarm skin tone was an emergency beacon

gray wharf Mar 20, 2020, 8:51 AM

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…I am slightly naturally tanned actually 😅

gray wharf Mar 21, 2020, 4:07 PM

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brand new one, straight from @raven hollow and 100% reproducible
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149893

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:11 PM

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description is confusing and is missing tons of detail. _text and _parsedText are undefined, what is _myControl? is it the same for both?

gray wharf Mar 21, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Dscha is adding moar details as we speak

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Updated, @untold sky

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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What mission did you upload Lou?

gray wharf Mar 21, 2020, 4:18 PM

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mine

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:19 PM

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hmpf

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@untold sky new mission is up

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init.sqf - Change _parseMode = false; to true, then it works properly

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(HL if replying)

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:26 PM

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// will change _parsedText value
Well yes, you set _parsedText variable one line above. ofc it does

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or do you mean it modifies the content INSIDE _parsedText?

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Check my mission, ded

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:26 PM

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then the last line doesn't circumvents the issue, it has the same problem

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no time

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:27 PM

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    _text = if(_parseMode)then    {"abc"}
    else                        {parseText "abc"};
    if(_parseMode)then    {_ctrlA ctrlSetStructuredText parseText _text;}
    else                {_ctrlA ctrlSetStructuredText _text;};```
Makes a difference (gif incoming, one sec)

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:27 PM

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You mean when you reuse _text to also set it onto different controls?

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so the content of the right argument to ctrlSetStructuredText is modified, like with a array reference

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:28 PM

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_parseMode = true:
https://gyazo.com/439c1202544167bd06c8f9121c63a62b
_parseMode = false:
https://gyazo.com/5de9c63fcd5b62eead3c010fdbaa50c5

Gyazo

▶ Play video

Gyazo

▶ Play video

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:28 PM

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every of the three is a different parseText?

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so, the repro script you posted isn't actually the repro, it only happens if you have multiple controls that you are changing?

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:29 PM

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....
    _ctrlA = _display ctrlCreate ["my_RscStructuredText", 123];
    _ctrlA ctrlSetPosition [0.45,0.35,0.1,0.1];
    if(_parseMode)then    {_ctrlA ctrlSetStructuredText parseText _text;}
    else                {_ctrlA ctrlSetStructuredText _text;};
    _ctrlA ctrlCommit 0;
    
    sleep 1;
    
    _ctrlB = _display ctrlCreate ["my_RscStructuredText_c", 234];
    _ctrlB ctrlSetPosition [0.45,0.5,0.1,0.1];
    if(_parseMode)then    {_ctrlB ctrlSetStructuredText parseText _text;}
    else                {_ctrlB ctrlSetStructuredText _text;};
    _ctrlB ctrlCommit 0;
....```

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The mission that I uploaded is the correct one

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Anyway, check it later if you want.

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Yes so. The issue happens when you reuse the _text, because ctrlSetStructuredText modifies the contents inside it by reference

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:31 PM

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prolly

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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that's all i needed to know. That was completely not clear by your issue description, and what you told me and debugged yesterday

raven hollow Mar 21, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Yesterday was yesterday, we tested a bit longer after we spoke

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Anyway, everything else is in the mission that i uploaded in the comment.

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Issue: "ctrlSetStructuredText modifies the content of the structured text variable passed as argument"
That's all i need

gray wharf Mar 21, 2020, 5:10 PM

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That's… what is written in the description and code comment
It edits the provided structured text instance, where ctrlSetStructuredText should internally clone it

untold sky Mar 21, 2020, 5:16 PM

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no its not

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very unclear

gray wharf Mar 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

daring wagon Mar 21, 2020, 5:21 PM

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😄

desert trench Mar 22, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Dedmen learns the A3 programmer way fast 🙂

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what we came up with in cooperation with the original RV engine programmer team
https://web.archive.org/web/20161126112951/http://dev.withsix.com/projects/cis/wiki/CIT#How-to-report-a-bug

CIT - ARMA2 Community Issue Tracker - DH: (ARMA) Development Unraveled

Redmine

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they appreciated the quality approach big time

untold sky Mar 22, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Thats basically also how we do it internally

daring wagon Mar 22, 2020, 12:13 PM

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@trim acorn Is your note on this page about broken setObjectTextureGlobal still valid ? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_setUnitInsignia If it still is, could you provide the tracker ticket?

BIS fnc setUnitInsignia

sleek scaffold Mar 22, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Devs, may I ask... given A3's current state, how does the work priorities look like?... Something like:

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Crash Fixes (Stability)

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Bug Fixes

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Performance Optimizations

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Gameplay/Quality of Life improvements

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Add missing scripting commands

ornate marlin Mar 22, 2020, 6:34 PM

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it's 6): a little bit from everything

sleek scaffold Mar 22, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I knew it! 😅 , the reason I asked is so that we can also kinda prioritize reporting what is more important to you guys...

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I am pretty sure you also have a nber 7) Beard maintenance 🧔 😇

untold sky Mar 22, 2020, 6:41 PM

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What project lead feels is relevant > What I feel is relevant > What community feels is relevant

sleek scaffold Mar 22, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I like 7! Keep it up guys

coral lantern Mar 22, 2020, 11:33 PM

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truth cuz ya only do what your boss(s) tell ya or ya get fired...

untold sky Mar 23, 2020, 8:04 AM

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That's not what I said or meant to say.
Top priority is what my boss tells me.
Next is what I wanna do.
Last is what the community wants, which is either pushed forward because I want it too, or back if not.

fickle root Mar 24, 2020, 5:00 PM

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anybody can check this on DEV and comment if really fixed?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T117681
unfortunately I can't check this myself since I don't have a joystick

calm smelt Mar 24, 2020, 10:34 PM

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@fickle root
That error also occurs with controllers.
I'll see if it's fixed on dev

gray wharf Mar 24, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Hi @solid marten ,
I just saw your note removal
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=BIS_fnc_spawnEnemy&diff=150066&oldid=129312

_otherPlayer = (_players - [_player]) select 0;
```the variable `_otherPlayer` may not used but the line, it still throws an error?

solid marten Mar 26, 2020, 9:43 AM

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@gray wharf yes but the function works regardless,.

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I removed the line internally but it may not hppen with next update since it is quite minor and we are already in strict lock for the next update

gray wharf Mar 26, 2020, 9:46 AM

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okido! Thanks.

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but I thought sqf stopped the script on the first encountered error?

solid marten Mar 26, 2020, 9:47 AM

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depends on what the error

gray wharf Mar 26, 2020, 9:49 AM

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oh ok, I thought any thrown (shown) error. thanks

desert trench Mar 28, 2020, 6:34 AM

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it seems triggers are bugged in 2d editor at least

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condition: true with repeatable => fires only once

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condition: round (time %1) == 1 with repeatable => fires each second

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activation: none or anybody - thislist returns [] (despite bluefor and empty vehicle in)

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for bluefor it reports them
the empty vehicle is listed by "logic"

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seized by OFPFOR: doesnt trigger at all

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seized by BLUEFOR/Indep: lists both bluefor and empty vehicle

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WTF

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did this all got broken due to Eden/new condition (anyplayer)? in thus the define index in the source are different but no longer fitting 2d editor?

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@solid marten i think you mentioned way back the loading savegame bug with triggers is to be fixed - does this also related to mission init (triggers not available immediately and thus breaking "list triggerName")

daring wagon Mar 28, 2020, 8:28 AM

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i think you mentioned way back the loading savegame bug with triggers is to be fixed - does this also related to mission init (triggers not available immediately and thus breaking "list triggerName")

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That's interesting

solid marten Mar 28, 2020, 12:00 PM

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@desert trench the fix is done internally but not going to be in 1.98

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in fact a lot of internal fixes wont make it into 1.98, but you would be able to test those on dev

desert trench Mar 28, 2020, 12:03 PM

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@solid marten thanks for the info! are all things mentioned in the changelog for dev branch?

untold sky Mar 28, 2020, 12:06 PM

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I think many weren't push to dev yet, next week probably

gray wharf Mar 28, 2020, 12:30 PM

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so the next one still is 1.98, not 1.100 / 2.00

untold sky Mar 28, 2020, 12:46 PM

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1.98 is old man

uncut briar Mar 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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It is old? I'm not sure man.

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🏃

daring wagon Apr 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147399 Changelog says it's fixed, but for me it still doesn't show the overview image, author and proper briefing name.

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(Moved it from Veterans)

untold sky Apr 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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@solid marten ^

gray wharf Apr 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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#rules don't tag BI members

daring wagon Apr 1, 2020, 3:12 PM

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😅

solid marten Apr 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@daring wagon works here, you need to be specific

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If you have exported mission into scenarios (local not steam) then it was not showing overview picture and other bits. Now it does. The steam mission shows steam description not the one you set in editor as before, this did not change, what changed is that if your steam description contains paragraphs it wont show as one big blob as well as escaping any other HTML symbols that can interfere with structured text. So what doesnt work in your case?

daring wagon Apr 1, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I know. I had to leave, that's why I didn't add more details.

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TestMission_2: Doesn't show the correct mission name
TestMission_1: Does show an overview image, but it's the one I added for TestMission_2 before. The malden one is ignored.

📎 TestMissions.zip

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Detecting paragraphs for Steam descriptions is working nicely. It there nothing that can be done about headlines? [h1] etc.?

📎 20200402012909_1.jpg

untold sky Apr 2, 2020, 7:56 AM

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its structured text right? so should be able to convert bold and h1 and such too?
Maybe a bbcode->structured text helper?
Thats so much work tho 🙃

desert trench Apr 2, 2020, 8:02 AM

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Steam only supports a rather limited subset: https://steamcommunity.com/comment/ForumTopic/formattinghelp

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Is that overview text completely handled by the engine?

untold sky Apr 2, 2020, 8:31 AM

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grabbing from steam and displaying afaik yeah. If you mean whether you can grab it via script and fix it yourself, yeah probably.

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 10:17 AM

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@daring wagon both testmission 1 and 2 show the same picture for me

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just unpboed both, you only have mission.sqms? Have you tried https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Mission_Overview?

Arma 3 Mission Overview

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Looks like the fix applies to description.ext only not mission.sqm, I will have a look

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Should I test again with description.ext?

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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yeah just to confirm, I will look at the mission.sqm later

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Will do, but not now. I'll post the results later

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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ok

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Alright, I added the stuff from Mission overview to the description.ext, but if I export it now and open the scenario menu I get this error message.

📎 20200402143111_1.jpg

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A new set of test missions. One with description ext, one only with Eden attributes and one with both. Overview picture still doesn't show for none of them and the error message (posted above) shows now.

📎 TestMissions_New.zip

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 12:56 PM

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overviewPicture = "overviewPicture_ca.paa";
there is no picture in pbo

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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My bad. Overview pictures work now in all three cases (Eden Editor, description.exp and both)

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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the error?

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Still there

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 1:03 PM

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probably because missionsqm binarised

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Gonna test that

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 1:07 PM

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could you then give me the updated set of missions please

daring wagon Apr 2, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Error is gone now. But if I export them unbinarised one by one, they are all called description.ext in the scenario menu

📎 TestMissions_3.zip

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📎 20200402150858_1.jpg

solid marten Apr 2, 2020, 1:12 PM

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thanks

obtuse mason Apr 2, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Some interesting behaviours. Don't know if it is a bug or not.

If we try to exec getUnitLoadout from a unit that just spawned (up to 20-30 s), then it's loadout consist only from gloves. He shows on static dressed, but when he exits, he becomes naked.
The script to create soldier called from local player (using forceAddUniform add setUnitLoadout commands). After 20-30 s the loadout can be retrieved correctly.
I try to set up tower _ mg composition, and use attach/detach. If I create an mg at [0,0,_someheight], and try to attach it by script. the gun stays at [0,0]. I came from dev version, and it doesn't have such behaviour - the gun spawns correctly.
In stable I was needed to add waituntil {_gun distance2D _its_holder < _somedistance}
@solid marten Спасибо за скрипты на сайте, кстати - ты просто маньяк 🙂 Очень помогли при создании кампании.

untold sky Apr 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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then it's loadout consist only from gloves
what? gloves are not a equipment piece?

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@obtuse mason #rules english only.

obtuse mason Apr 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

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"gloves are not a requipment piece?"
I wonder where he hides all the rest.

sterile nova Apr 3, 2020, 10:32 AM

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is that equipment from some mod? it sounds more like setObjectTexture kicks in or there are some missing textures

obtuse mason Apr 3, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@sterile nova Yes, from IFA3 mod. For on-foot soldiers it saved (getUnitloadout --> setUnitLoadout) fine.

fickle root Apr 3, 2020, 11:54 AM

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@untold sky any chance to see the possibility to move already created and named markers on map, like in ACE?
Really annoying and waste of time to each time remove the marker and put it again and name it again

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don't know if a marker can be moved only by its owner in ACE or any marker by any player

untold sky Apr 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

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just use ace

fickle root Apr 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

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vanilla servers here

solid marten Apr 3, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@daring wagon and everyone. I need exported mission to scenarios where mission.sqm is binarized by default. Does it trigger error when clicking on scenarios?

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binarized mission @daring wagon gave me, triggers error packed or unpacked, need to know if this is a fluke or tendency

daring wagon Apr 3, 2020, 11:26 PM

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@solid marten I tested it again and this time it doesn't trigger the error message when the file is binarized.

📎 TestMission.VR.pbo

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A little feature request from my side. Would it be possible to add a command which returns current time and date of the machine it was executed on? It would make saving data with time and date possible as well as creating history for collected data. Would love to hear your opinion on this.

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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~~no it still errors~~

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~~on stable as well, wonder why no one reported it?~~

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 8:37 AM

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Not sure if still relevant. But this mission crashes my server because it can't find "\a3\3DEN\UI\macros.inc"

📎 Description2eext_Crash.VR.pbo

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 8:55 AM

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@daring wagon your old mission was erroing, removed that and new mission is fine. When you say crash your server, you mean when you select #missions?

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 9:00 AM

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When I join it.

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So yeah. Entering mission screen

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 9:23 AM

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what the error message say?

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include cannot include?

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is it included from description.ext?

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if so then there might be a fix already

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 9:28 AM

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File cannot be found. It's included from description.ext

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 AM

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dont think include fix made it to recent dev, try after next one

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Will do. Thanks

untold sky Apr 4, 2020, 10:24 AM

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But this mission crashes my server because it can't find "\a3\3DEN\UI\macros.inc"
Thats the other bug, not your include fix

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This include path is correct, but still doesn't work

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I didn't make a ticket for that one yet

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look at the pbo header in a hex editor, you'll see the weirdness, you have more repro pbo's in your DMs

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 11:56 AM

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It is a fix by association, the server won’t crash so I guess you can call it a fix

untold sky Apr 4, 2020, 12:02 PM

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The description.ext will still not have the include, and be missing things that you expect, or will parse incorrectly and still fail/crash

solid marten Apr 4, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Don’t think it will crash unless you try to load that mission which may or may not crash (probably won’t)

untold sky Apr 4, 2020, 12:22 PM

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still 3den packed #include doesn't work, pboManager/makePbo/addonBuilder packed does work. clearly a bug 🙃

sleek scaffold Apr 4, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@untold sky I don't wanna be a balls breaker but can I ask two things:

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Why is https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIN_fnc_showHorizontalCompass a Contact Exclusive? It is a UI improvement that should be universal imho

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Is it too late for a command to disable all default actions on players, like the default heal addaction that appears when you are wounded... I have my own implementation of heal using a custom UI so having the default one is redundant... but that is just an example I know a lot of mods will benefit from being able to easily remove those default addactions from the player

untold sky Apr 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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a Contact Exclusive?
I don't decide such things
Is it too late for a command to disable all default actions on players
no

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Why is https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIN_fnc_showHorizontalCompass a Contact Exclusive? It is a UI improvement that should be universal imho
@sleek scaffold I am kinda sure that it was forgotten. The compass GUI made it into the base game.

BIN fnc showHorizontalCompass

sleek scaffold Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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@untold sky @daring wagon I was not able to use it without running Arma 3 through the PLAY CONTACT icon... how do you do enable it on regular Arma 3?

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 9:56 PM

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With my mod I've just created 2 mins ago 😄

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You basically need to copy the function

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and execute it in vanilla arma 3

sleek scaffold Apr 4, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Thank you @daring wagon but we shouldn't need a mod to enable a feature that is already in the game files... @untold sky @solid marten

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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The devs know about it now, let's not get off topic

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Also, don't tag Greens, see rules

sleek scaffold Apr 4, 2020, 9:58 PM

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👌

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Are Dedmen and KK both greens?

daring wagon Apr 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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yes

sleek scaffold Apr 4, 2020, 10:05 PM

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thank you for the heads up!

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About that function to enable the Horizontal Compass of yours @daring wagon

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It has to be run as a mod or could it be run on a mission's Init?

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Because my mission is modless (besides CBA)

coral lantern Apr 5, 2020, 8:03 AM

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zero details, dont even know whats broken other then trying to call ctrlEdit which isnt even listed for ctrlCreate ? or is that the issue?

daring wagon Apr 5, 2020, 9:18 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T136596 ctrlCreate freezes the game if incorrect control class is used. I think it should throw an error instead.

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 11:39 AM

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wip o7

daring wagon Apr 5, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Nice

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Finally someone found a way to optimize Arma performance and make it use 100% of the available cpu

gray wharf Apr 5, 2020, 12:07 PM

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CPUs?

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doesn't count if it is a while { true } 😄

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:11 PM

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pff, you don't define what counts 👀

coral lantern Apr 5, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Note: this does not crash 3den... (eden just spits out: No Control )

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Well I assume display 46 is not open in 3den

coral lantern Apr 5, 2020, 12:16 PM

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yeah Im not familiar I was guessing 46 meant ingame as player. just happened to test it in eden and in-game when you mentioned 100% cpu. (which isnt the case either it just flat out freezes the .exe task)

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was watching resource monitor on arma and it sat at 5% just instantly turned red/non-responsive

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honestly I'd be impressed if Arma could even make my cpu go 100%

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:24 PM

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just reproed. 100% cpu load.

coral lantern Apr 5, 2020, 12:24 PM

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really? wow it didnt even touch my threadripper just hung was still responsive in all other ways as in. wasnt a like a hard freeze. (eg. Metro Exodus...)

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:26 PM

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problem found.. It has a minimum width limit. But the text in the control is empty... 🤔

daring wagon Apr 5, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I might have found an issue with findDisplay. Sometimes it freezes the game sometimes it simply returns displayNull.

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Gonna try to create a repro later

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:31 PM

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the ctrlEdit one is fixed, but.. It was control edit specific, and not "if incorrect control class is used"

daring wagon Apr 5, 2020, 12:33 PM

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interesting

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So is there a list what control classes are supported?

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:38 PM

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all should be 😄

gray wharf Apr 5, 2020, 12:49 PM

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wait, so possibly a performance patch for Arma soon\™ or was this 100% CPU a joke?

untold sky Apr 5, 2020, 12:50 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/553181045856534529.png

ornate marlin Apr 5, 2020, 12:51 PM

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i don't speak dedmen... what's that supposed to mean?

gray wharf Apr 5, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I think it's trying to communicate

ornate marlin Apr 5, 2020, 12:53 PM

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😄

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we... come... in... peace...

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waves french national flag

daring wagon Apr 5, 2020, 12:58 PM

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That was a joke 😄

coral lantern Apr 5, 2020, 12:59 PM

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🤦

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 10:37 AM

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I just throw that in there as a feature request https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150204 (commands to get machine time and date)

gray wharf Apr 8, 2020, 10:37 AM

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YES

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

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quite sure that feature request already existed

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

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I searched for time commands, machine time etc

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

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well its on my todo list

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 10:38 AM

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That's awesome!

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 10:39 AM

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already have implementation ready actually, same array as missionStart command

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Both for system time, and UTC

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Very nice.

gray wharf Apr 8, 2020, 10:48 AM

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I wonder if it has not been implemented for security/personal data reasons
e.g missionStart doesn't work in SP

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Doesn't make much sense. Then they could either disable it in MP or only allow it on the dedicated server.

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 11:23 AM

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for security/personal data reasons
Knowing the timezone of a player? Your server log already has their IP and SteamID

gray wharf Apr 8, 2020, 11:26 AM

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it's at least not in-game…
I mean, you could ban players from a certain timezone this way (I know, it's not a -huge- deal)
but most likely, it was not implemented because it was not needed.

daring wagon Apr 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Not needed maybe, but it always felt like such a trivial thing to have in a game which features a realistic star map and a full day and night cycle.

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Well I have it ready, and friday/monday is vacation soo

coral lantern Apr 8, 2020, 6:54 PM

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doesnt alive do all that, ie its def possible?

untold sky Apr 8, 2020, 6:55 PM

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they have a extension

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you can do everything with a extension

coral lantern Apr 8, 2020, 6:57 PM

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ah okay thought the extension was purely only to get the weather data thought the time/locale was internal from arma.

desert trench Apr 11, 2020, 6:36 AM

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class CfgMarkers
    class Flag
        icon = "\A3\ui_f\data\map\markers\military\mission_CA.paa";//<-- MISSING

coral lantern Apr 11, 2020, 6:38 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T67679

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dang @desert trench dats a old one...

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Not even sure why the cfg exists. its not used in eden at all? isnt the handdrawn or mil flag nor a country flag they all there. has nothing for a cfg either really it has no texture assigned to it at all.

desert trench Apr 11, 2020, 9:04 AM

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backwards compatibility

coral lantern Apr 11, 2020, 10:01 AM

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ah...

gray wharf Apr 11, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Maybe update to an A3 repro to help the devs, @desert trench

desert trench Apr 11, 2020, 10:08 AM

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waste of time

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either they want to fix the missing texture or not

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repro: open texture

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observed: doesnt exist

gray wharf Apr 11, 2020, 10:15 AM

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oh wait, it's the file itself that doesn't exist?

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I thought the issue was elsewhere

coral lantern Apr 12, 2020, 3:31 AM

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found a mission_ca.paa in a3\ui_f\data\igui\cfg\cursors

uncut briar Apr 12, 2020, 6:01 PM

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It seems that all rims of destroyed wheels of C_SUV_01_F redirect damage to same wheel:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150282

desert trench Apr 14, 2020, 11:23 AM

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spam https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150204

untold sky Apr 14, 2020, 11:23 AM

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uh lol i implemented that ticket a year ago 😄

gray wharf Apr 14, 2020, 11:33 AM

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and where is the command? 👀 😛

near nymph Apr 14, 2020, 11:33 AM

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time was local, servertime was servers...perhaps he means a "real-world time" ?

untold sky Apr 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

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Its been laying in my stash for a year, I moved it to internal ticket on weekend, might implement next week

near nymph Apr 14, 2020, 11:35 AM

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lol...that branch might be 3k commits behind. are u sure wasn't for arma 2? 😛

untold sky Apr 14, 2020, 11:37 AM

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what?

restive bone Apr 14, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Btw theres a new spam comment on that that hasnt been deleted

untold sky Apr 14, 2020, 3:02 PM

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ffs

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we have ReCaptcha enabled tho :U Why

restive bone Apr 14, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Maybe you gotta go to one of the training offered by "Chennai Trainings" to learn how to protect yourself from spam heh

fringe pewter Apr 14, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Man, I'm just tripping over M2 bugs :/

fringe pewter Apr 14, 2020, 7:48 PM

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First the backpack mismatch, now the guns aren't combining right per https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150335

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 7:46 AM

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Get us the reports and it'll be fixed o7

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:05 AM

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@untold sky is there a way to give more brightness or increase the lightning radius for lightning under barrel grenades?`
because they're useless since visual update. they don't illuminate anything, like at all. you can only see them, but nothing around them.
No such problems with missiles that illuminate a lot, while flying to the target, like "Tomahawk" missiles.
Or maybe give under barrel lightning grenades the properties of a missile? I don't know

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also is there a way to solve the problem with literally all helis, that are force-turned over, so they can explode, despite you landing them really flat and there is no reason for them to turn over at all, but they still do

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:08 AM

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lightning under barrel grenades?
you mean flares?

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:09 AM

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it feels to me like the game thinks there is enough damage and the heli kinda should expolde and so the game turns it over, forced way

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yes

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:09 AM

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https://github.com/gruppe-adler/gruppe_adler_mod/blob/3c88a2481881985443389a7b3a01bd3f60073d09/addons/grenadeLauncherAmmo/cfgAmmo.hpp#L4-L12

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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in A2, they worked perfectly, illuminating really bright and fare

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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I use gruppe_adler's brightflares mod too, works nicely

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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but it's a mod, that everybody needs to have

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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correct

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:10 AM

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I'm speaking about vanilla

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if it's possible to fix it there

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if it's a simple config thing, I don't see why not fix it in vanilla

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:12 AM

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unlikely, backwards compat. Suddenly changing how the flares behave.. @sterile nova has a better idea on the implications of that

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:13 AM

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or maybe create a new class that will have it the current way and replace by default with fixed

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or make it optional class, that one can "enable" inside the mission file if one wants to have it fixed

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I don't know, I'm not an expert

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@fickle root UGL flares are signal ones and that's by design

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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in A2 it was not signal?
because they were illuminating really good

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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(Disclaimer: I didn't invent that that 🤷‍♂️ )

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in A2 they were behaving like illumination flares

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:16 AM

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so no illumination flares present in A3 then, ok

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what about helis forced to turn over?

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even if they shouldn't

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:17 AM

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We could add illum flares, not much work besides localization? :D
I'd need a video of that, not sure what youre talking about there

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Been on new physx for 2 weeks now, I noticed no issues.. or atleast no really negative issues.
I noticed cases where vehicles were undamaged, even though the impact should've severely damaged them. but thats positive from a player standpoint

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:18 AM

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I land a little bird on both skids, perfectly horizontally, despite it being badly damaged and it turns over, forced way

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Had little birds last week, no issues noticed

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:19 AM

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It's not always

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but there were a lot of cases

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where a heli is forced to turn over for no reason

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I hit a little bird skid on the edge of a roof at full speed, made half a looping and came out undamaged even though I should be dead.
Thats my only "negative" helicopter experience with new physx

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:20 AM

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yes, this I know, "good" for players

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but I think dwarden or reyhard know why sometimes helis are forced to turn over for no reason

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don't remember who of both replied in the past here on this subject

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can't find it anymore

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was a long time ago

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:23 AM

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turn over, like upside down?

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:24 AM

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like it leans on one side, to be able to expolde

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despite me landing it really flat, even if heavily damaged

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on both sides at the same time

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so you can exclude the explosion, because I could have landed it only on one side and not flat

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if only I could find dwarden's or reyhard's response to this

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I don't remember if it was in 2018 or 2019 I wrote about it already

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:29 AM

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there is insta explosion when heli is upside down or on side

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:30 AM

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this is normal

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but the problem is not that it explodes

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:30 AM

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"normal" 😄

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:30 AM

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but that it's forced to lean on one side in order to expolde

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and it souldn't lean

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since I land it perfectly flat on both sides

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:31 AM

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weird, I remember mention of insta explosion only from my side

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:31 AM

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well, I don't find it really normal, yes, but it's ok

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but not ok when it's forced-leaned so it can explode

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:32 AM

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don't know what you mean by force-leaned

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:32 AM

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don't know how the engine works, but maybe it "thinks" that there is enough damage for the heli to be destroyed and leans it so it can expolde, to be destroyed

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I will try to record it, if I manage to

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have never tried to repro it on purpose

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last time I had it, it was 2 days ago on stable

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:33 AM

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leans it so it can expolde
nah, that sounds stupid 😄

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:34 AM

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landed perfectly flat on ground the littlebird and it somehow leaned on one side despite me holding it with Z button and trying to counterbalance with A/D

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then maybe it was dwarden who responded once to this problem

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but don't remember what exactly he said back then

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is it maybe then possible to make them not expolde, when the fall on one side, but only break the rotor then, like in real life?

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:39 AM

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that ^ I would pretty much love
let's not explode -only- because it's on its side/top
break the blades

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Dedmen, adding illuminating flares would have been so so much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:43 AM

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again reyhard will know more about it I think. But.. I would probably fix it, I don't see a reason for forcing explode
not sure if breaking blades is that easy, without advanced flightmodel enabled

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:45 AM

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the engine does it now for "normal" helicopters if e.g you fly too close to a wall

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I never tried deliberately flying close to a wall 😄 to break my rotors

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:48 AM

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phone poles are sneaky b*sterds

the blades are also destroyed if you tip the helicopter on the side when touching the ground, but when the helicopter fully tip, it's boom time.
So I guess "only" disabling the auto boom is required?

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:48 AM

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that behaviour can be changed but afair there are few edge cases which prevented that change from happening

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@thick hare should know more about it

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there are some specifically few checks in code which make that instant explosion and removing it was kind of working

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:49 AM

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found this ticket in this regard
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T118667 - Helicopters...tipped over helicopters (June 2016)
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T71119 - Make helicopter Crashes more realistic / not always exploding (May 2016)

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:50 AM

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its AIII-11332 I think, and AIII-12983

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 8:50 AM

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main issue I think was RTD - RTD helicopters are colliding with RTD defined points in XML

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Seems like, while turned over the helicopter can sink into the ground, which is bad

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:51 AM

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already worked well before

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old screens here
http://i.imgur.com/hdLtO2x.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/j45wxDD.jpg

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dslyecxi also made videos about it back then

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comparing how it was and what it became, how we know it today

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 8:54 AM

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what i remember , it worked well , same as in TKOH

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just one day it was changed into instant explode

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:55 AM

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yes, exactly

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was just fine before

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many years ago

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:55 AM

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I've marked it to be looked at again in the next few months. If just disabling forced kill is doable and working fine, maybe we can just go with that

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:56 AM

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please, add illuminating flares to your list as well )))

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 8:57 AM

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and better multicore usage kthxbai

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 8:58 AM

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also why not let helis in noob mod also use wheels and hand brake

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why do you have to switch to advanced mod for this, but on jets it works fine

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I'm sure there is some reason for that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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i think thats the limitation of the default flying model

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I believe the wheels stuff is done by the AFM itself

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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maybe this reason is as "valid" as the reason helis are exploding when they tip over

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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imho there is a mod that you can do it even in default flying model 😛

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:00 AM

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oh, ok, maybe

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so if there is a mod for it to work with default flight model, it's then possible!

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but "locked"?

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man, I already imagine helis not insta exploding when they tip over, wheels/hand brake working for default flight model, like on jets and illuminating flares.....

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 9:07 AM

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I already heard that with new physx wheels on helis work, not sure if default flight model

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:08 AM

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well, if a steamworkshop mod makes it possible for default flight model, then it's possible to make it work without any mod as well

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:08 AM

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on AFM they do

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but not in default

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:09 AM

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@rapid wing but you just said that with a mod you know it works on default flight model?

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:10 AM

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problem is , that mod is scripted

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otherwise it works

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:10 AM

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oh, ok

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:11 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1776600018

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:11 AM

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see this from dslyecxi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LMF4zrPh32w#t=971

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 9:12 AM

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pfuh noobs, just fly 10cm off the ground 😛

rapid wing Apr 15, 2020, 9:13 AM

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rotor damage kinda works but its random

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:19 AM

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even with damage false it explodes )))

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lol

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 9:20 AM

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because it's very obvious if in code which bypasses all scripts

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sort of if(heli flipped)then{heli kaboom true}

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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well... yes

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https://youtu.be/KwQvr0ADrmw?t=5

YouTube

Kala Gush

May 2010 Helo Crash FOB Kalagush

A civilian contract helicopter (Russian Mi-17) crashed while making an emergency landing due to mechanical problems on an ISAF base (FOB Kalagush) in Nuristan Province on May 3, 2010. The crew members were pulled from the wreckage as the aircraft's rotors turned at full power ...

▶ Play video

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cargo: 2000 pounds of 120 mm high explosive mortars and no explosion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grLzv9jLRmo&feature=youtu.be&t=76

YouTube

wcolby

Russian Mi-17 Crash in Afghanistan Soldiers Medal Awarded

On today's edition of Around the Air Force Technical Sergeant Nicholas Kurtz tells us why an airman was recently awarded the Soldier's Medal.

A civilian contract helicopter (Russian Mi-17) crashed while making an emergency landing due to mechanical problems on an ISAF base (F...

▶ Play video

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I remember jets and vehicles falling apart, like wings, doors, wheels in OFP2, that was never released, but most if not all of the vehicles then made it to A2, but without this advanced damage model

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 9:36 AM

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I got a "its possible" on adding illum flares

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:43 AM

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2005 (OFP2?), su-34 from ArmA 2 (2009) in peaces + buildings destruction and a wheel of a vehicle rolling

📎 arma_2-51.jpg

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📎 arma_2-52.jpg

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📎 arma_2-40.jpg

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📎 arma_2-12.jpg

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📎 arma_2-22.jpg

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2020 and still no such advanced/detailed destruction of vehicles/buildings (((

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 9:48 AM

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there might be a reason though 🙃
(my biggest regret was when the "brick-by-brick" building damage they announced didn't make it 😢)

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:48 AM

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oh yes

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 9:49 AM

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They announed that?

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:49 AM

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also do you remember them demoing physix with containers and barrels for A3 and not implemented

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also in early A3, you could open and close doors of Ifrit or ghost hawk

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Yeah

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:50 AM

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and not only

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maybe all of this missing because no multithreading...

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imagine all of this suddenly in next title...

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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They announed that?
at one point for "Game 2" yes

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Ic

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@fickle root doors are still openable, by script though

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 9:53 AM

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imagine all of this suddenly in next title...

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They defnitely need to step up the game

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:57 AM

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don't know why sliding/opening of door on vehicles was removed

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not finished for all vehicles and thus removed, so people don't ask why on one it works and on the other not

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 9:58 AM

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because you couldn't throw grenades inside

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 9:58 AM

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or because there were problems when shooting

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ah, ok

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 9:59 AM

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and even if you could, then it wouldn't kill people inside due to how explosions are working in RV

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you can already notice it on some openable vehicles like offroad or van

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it was also increasing complexity of physx LOD (this one is used for grenade collisions)

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:00 AM

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you remind me I have to check all windows in all houses for grenades to be able to enter through windows from outside and from inside, because there are a lot of windows in several houses that you can't throw a grenade through

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it simply acts like an invisible wall

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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yea, indeed, I wanted to take a look at some of them for 2.0

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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I hope that much more improved multithreading will finally allow to introduce a lot of stuff

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2.0 what?

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Arma 3 2.00

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Don't spoil it https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/622175034840186899.png
The numba is a secrit :U

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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😄

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:05 AM

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also is there a difference between smoke and normal grenades?

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when throwing through glass

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because one of both, don't remember which, you can throw through glass no problem, the other you can forget about it

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 10:08 AM

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UGL grenades are using shell simulation

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smoke grenade and regular grenade thrown by player are using PhysX

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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ok

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 10:09 AM

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~~1.100~~ 2.00 confirmed 😄

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sooo Arma 6 confirmed? 👀 someone tell Drewski!

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Arma 3^2

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Arma 32bit

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 10:12 AM

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That would be a step back 😄

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:14 AM

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yeah, this is the problem, that UGL is not using physix

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no way to shoot them through glass like smoke or normal grenades

uncut briar Apr 15, 2020, 10:22 AM

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UGLs have arming distance.

daring wagon Apr 15, 2020, 10:38 AM

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If UGL use physix and bounce like normal grenades, that would be funny

gray wharf Apr 15, 2020, 10:40 AM

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NO

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I understand now )

sterile nova Apr 15, 2020, 10:56 AM

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@daring wagon UGL smoke grenades are using PhysX and we know how they behave in game ))

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 12:41 PM

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please, make it possible to use wheels and hand brake for helis in default flight model without additional mods ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

uncut briar Apr 15, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Please add more FPS

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thanks lenny

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I wouldn't "waste" huge resources for a game that has no feature and a lot of limitations

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they should better work on next title

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even if BI could iron out almost every possible problems present in A3, they still would have hit current engine limitations, not allowing them to go further, implementing a lot of stuff they would have liked to

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the engine is the real problem in first place

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if somebody remembers how horrible the performance was, when Altis was first introduced...
Even small Livonia with not than much vegetation as could have been and with not as many different sorts of plants is not performing very well on current engine.
I imagine this is also the reason why they went for Altis and not for a green map of +- same size, because it would have been simply unplayable, even with current state of the engine we have

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so updated/redone engine is the only solution, with much better multithreading and a lot of capabilities implemented to be able to introduce them in the game over time

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hope they will really think of everything possible to implement in the engine, as capability, even if introduced later in the game itself

untold sky Apr 15, 2020, 1:24 PM

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and all not related to #arma3_feedback_tracker discussion

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 1:24 PM

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you're right, way off

fickle root Apr 15, 2020, 11:01 PM

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can somebody explain?
Tweaked: Made consistent the Fire Geometry across all characters

sterile nova Apr 16, 2020, 5:28 AM

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@fickle root https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695027939603120139/700212848415997994/unknown.png in 1.94, some of the characters were updated with new fire geometry. Now all of them have detailed variant. There will be wiki article about it how mods can update to that standard too but this will have wait till I will get chance to go back to the office.

fickle root Apr 16, 2020, 5:32 AM

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so what's the result of this?
better detection what part of the body was hit?

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more hitpoints?

sterile nova Apr 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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slightly better hit detection and possibility to do more complex hitpoints in future

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its connected to this https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/122121444703338496/700065438880628776

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 9:47 AM

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reyhard Yesterday at 15:33
yea, indeed, I wanted to take a look at some of them for 2.0

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i've actually had one ticket on that since 2015 😛

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will post it here again

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i also need to make a bug report about a DX11 out of memory crash... soon ™️

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 9:52 AM

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can't do much about not enough memory tho

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its not like we can analyze the crash cause and fix it. The cause is clear, out of memory. And the fix too, get more memory or lower graphics settings

gray wharf Apr 16, 2020, 10:38 AM

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but isn't the game supposed to load/unload according to available RAM? or is it a DX responsibility

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 10:43 AM

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^

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it's a 6GB VRAM GPU

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running theory is that Arma is looking at shared video memory and not just dedicated

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because this happens to someone else i know as well

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:44 AM

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Afaik it prints the available vram in RPT on startup?

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 10:44 AM

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hmm let me check, i did save the reports

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PhysMem: 16 GiB, VirtMem : 131072 GiB, AvailPhys : 9.0 GiB, AvailVirt : 131068 GiB, AvailPage : 5.4 GiB

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doesn't seem to

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oh wait

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it does

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 1:16:39 DX11 - Using DXGI adapter 0 (detected in config).
 1:16:39 DX11 - Using DXGI adapter 0.
 1:16:39     - adapter description : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
 1:16:39     - adapter vendor ID : 4318
 1:16:39     - adapter device ID : 8578
 1:16:39     - adapter subsys ID : 1069749336
 1:16:39     - adapter revision  : 161
 1:16:39     - dedicated video memory : 1987051520
 1:16:39     - dedicated system memory : 0
 1:16:39     - shared system memory : 4264034304```

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so... 1895MB dedicated VRAM, and 4066MB shared?

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:49 AM

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so problem might be that it thinks it can use shared memory, even though it cannot?

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 10:50 AM

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dunno. will make a ticket with all the reports it put together

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this is what task manager reports https://imgur.com/a/VaU0UyW

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:51 AM

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but according to that, both numbers that arma reports are wrong 😄

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 10:51 AM

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yup 😄

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Problem seems to occur when i have Chrome and stuff open. Without it i don't get it. Although as you can see VRAM use with all my stuff open in the background is < 1GB

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with chrome and stuff closed it's using 0.4 GB

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:54 AM

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that info there comes directly from directx.. and if that data is already wrong.. oof

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 10:54 AM

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win 10...

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DXDIAG seems to report things correctly...

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:55 AM

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maxvram is dedicated video memory + (if shared system > videomem and videomem < 512mb) shared system memory
and then Arma only uses 4/5th out of that because it assumes some is already used elsewhere

gray wharf Apr 16, 2020, 10:58 AM

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but if RAM usage changes (e.g Alt+Tab then opening, randomly, Chrome), does the game change its limit on the fly or does it remain on the "starting" values?

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:59 AM

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game doesn't know how much vram is in use by others

gray wharf Apr 16, 2020, 10:59 AM

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does it refresh on the "available RAM"?

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 10:59 AM

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no, because thats hardware

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that won't change

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it uses 4/5th of total available vram always

gray wharf Apr 16, 2020, 11:04 AM

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oh okay

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Also not sure if still the case, but it once had the problem of never detecting more than 4gb vram

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which make me 8GB 1070 big sad

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maybe we should reintroduce maxVRAM parameter

fickle root Apr 16, 2020, 11:16 AM

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it's in the launcher

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or is it not working?

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I remember when A3 was 32 bit and I had my 6 GB vRAM GTX Titan, it couldn't use more than 3 GB at ultra 22" 1680x1050, back in 2014

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 11:28 AM

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or is it not working?
that, also its limited to 3gb and other shinanigans, noone should be touching that parameter currently

fickle root Apr 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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i thought it was limited to only 2 GB, since A2

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 11:41 AM

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nah that was probably 32bit stuff

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 12:06 PM

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well, the game is using 5GB of VRAM according to task manager...

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it crashes because Arma pushes available VRAM to the max

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at the time of the crash, when the error message popped up, the system was using 5.8GB

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when i shut Arma all chrome windows and tabs had crashed too

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Arma uses 4/5ths of existing vram. If not that much is free then it'll indeed potentially die

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 12:16 PM

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hm.

fickle root Apr 16, 2020, 12:37 PM

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arma uses without problem more than 8 GB vRAM

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my 8 GB are always full

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another user here has a Radeon VII with 16 GB and he confirmed, that arma easily goes above 8 GB, if available

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not even 4k or WQHD

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just 1080p

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 5:31 PM

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yeah it'll use 80% of your VRAM as dedmen said

untold sky Apr 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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but there's som F'ery going on with directx/nvidia where it doesn't report the full vram that you actually have

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like how it displays 4gb for you while you have 6 or smth

near cedar Apr 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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it's actually reporting just under 2GB

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~2GB dedicated, ~4GB shared

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whereas it's actually 6GB dedicated and 14GB shared

sleek scaffold Apr 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Perhaps there should be a param to let players specify their Graphics Cards memory to bypass what arma reads from DirX/NvidiaDriver (a manual work around)

spare vine Apr 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

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I'm sure it's a know issue, and I don't believe it's related to what Dedmen is/was working on but;
If you include a non-existing file with SQF in a mission, 3den will simply load the mission and show an error message (file not found).
If you include a non-existing file in a config file (part of mission, like 'description.ext') it will crash the game completely.

Currently only tested in a modded environment and a custom mission, but if needed I can create a simple test mission without mods.

untold sky Apr 17, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Perhaps there should be a param to let players specify their Graphics Cards memory to bypass what arma reads
Thats what I already said yesterday

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@spare vine fix in next arma update. Was fixed last week

hallow sun Apr 17, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Since the update we have some weird vehicle "desync". Vehicles floating, tilted in the ground etc.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/499276918714007586/700117324270927893/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/656243699512246272/700666371893231666/20200417131637_1.jpg

raven hollow Apr 17, 2020, 1:08 PM

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maybe we should reintroduce maxVRAM parameter
@untold sky Yes pls.

fickle root Apr 17, 2020, 5:24 PM

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@untold sky please, introduce also RscTreeViewMulti
like you have done with: Added: RscListBoxMulti config class for scripted UI creation of multi-selection list boxes

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so one can select several things at once, and not one by one, performing same actions for each of items every time

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in our mission we have bots in group with player and the player wants to select all bots or some of them (more than one) to sell them, delete or transfer them to another player at once, not selecting only one at time and repeat same actions for each bot

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now it's simply impossible

untold sky Apr 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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please, introduce also
No. I don't even know why you are pinging me. Stop waasting my time

raven hollow Apr 17, 2020, 6:08 PM

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in our mission we have bots in group with player and the player wants to select all bots or some of them (more than one) to sell them, delete or transfer them to another player at once, not selecting only one at time and repeat same actions for each bot
@fickle root Make it a listbox :trollface:

solid marten Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 AM

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please, introduce also RscTreeViewMulti
Are here any commands to get or set multiselection on RscTree?

daring wagon Apr 18, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Still hoping for the treeView search fix (looking at someone specific) 😛

finite anvil Apr 18, 2020, 11:39 AM

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please, introduce also RscTreeViewMulti
Are here any commands to get or set multiselection on RscTree?
@solid marten no commands that I know of, even though tv supports multiselection. but maybe tvSetCurSel has an yet undocumented syntax for this?

sleek scaffold Apr 18, 2020, 10:32 PM

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hey @fickle root stop molesting my boy dedmen! he is busy doing my suggestions!

arctic root Apr 19, 2020, 9:57 AM

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please, introduce also RscTreeViewMulti
Are here any commands to get or set multiselection on RscTree?
@solid marten there is a TreeView parameter multiselectEnabled, but so far I haven't found any commands on BI wiki which could set/return multiple TreeView selected items.

gray wharf Apr 19, 2020, 10:00 AM

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@raven hollow ^ ?

raven hollow Apr 19, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Not that i know of ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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For RscListBoxMulti it's https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/lbSelection, according to KK.

sleek scaffold Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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just commented and found the culprit of a annoying bug happening when using the very popular EDEN editor "edit loadout" option: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150415

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please look it up in the future dear devs

untold sky Apr 19, 2020, 5:48 PM

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No

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Stop pinging me

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#rules

sleek scaffold Apr 19, 2020, 5:49 PM

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ok sorry 😦

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fixed

untold sky Apr 19, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Second time you spam ping me in one day. Have a read of #rules and consider this a warning

sleek scaffold Apr 19, 2020, 5:49 PM

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you are right, won't happen again, also re reading the rules now

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thank you for the heads up and not banning me 🙂

finite anvil Apr 20, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Hmmm I have just been using the CT_CONTROLS_TABLE but when using ctrlEdit as a base class it crashes the game as soon as you ctAddRow _ctrl? RscEdit is fine...

covert barn Apr 21, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Is there a chance to that RWRs might get looked at? https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126652
It seems Radar Warning Receivers only show signals when that radar is able to detect the plane with RWR. For example, Sentinel can only detect Rhea's radar when within a few km. IRL, the RWR detection range would only depend on radar power and RWR sensitivity, not on plane's RCS (radar cross-section)

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 12:42 PM

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there is a really issue with all guided missiles in the game, connected directly and only to overall visibility in video settings, that overrides or doesn't take into account what overall visibility and objects are set via setViewDistance/setObjectViewDistance in the mission.
100% reproducible even in the editor, just by placing a heavy AT soldier, setting desired setViewDistance/setObjectViewDistance and then just lowering/increasing overall visibility in video settings.
p.s. - objects visibility in video settings and setViewDistance/setObjectViewDistance via console doesn't matter at all, only overall visibility.

in my video repro you can see that:

overall and objects visibility is set to 3000 for both and one can't even see Pyrgos village on my right, on the other side of the bay
I set setViewDistance/setObjectViewDistance to 6000 m for both via console and one can see that it works, since one can now see Pyrgos village
I open video setting to demo, that 3000 m overall and objects still hasn't changed
I shoot with Vorona at a house 2057 m away and I hit it
I lower objects visibility in video settings to 500 m (overall still 3000 m and forced overall/objects still 6000 m) and shoot at the same house and still hit it
I now also lower overall visibility in video settings to 500 m (forced overall/objects still 6000 m) and shoot at the same house and the missile simply flies away in a random direction
I increase overall visibility in video settings again to 3000 m (objects still 500 m and forced overall/objects still 6000 m) and shoot at the same house and I hit it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDXjhMI5GzQ

YouTube

Groove_C ArmA

Arma3 x64 2020 04 23 14 10 03 791

▶ Play video

gray wharf Apr 23, 2020, 12:43 PM

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…write a ticket? if it doesn't exist

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 12:44 PM

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will do

untold sky Apr 23, 2020, 12:45 PM

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woah wtf. what magic is this :D
it shouldn't even care about visibility its just view direction guided I thought...

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Definitely looks like a balif bug that gets a ticket

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I started investigating it when I was told by players on our server, that despite them setting overall and objects in the mission itself to even 12k, they couldn't hit anything with jets' missiles, helis, infantry titans or voronas.
All of this, because missiles simply flew away in a random direction, despite enemy vehicles not even throwing smoke, since target not locked, because most of them guide missiles manually to avoid enemy armor using smoke.
Told them to set overall visibility in game video settings and it worked just fine afterwards )

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Should I choose engine or config as category when creating the ticket?

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Dedmen, feel free to change the ticket's title, if you feel the need to do so
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150535

untold sky Apr 23, 2020, 1:14 PM

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engine

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atleast I think its an engine issue I don't know

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 1:14 PM

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ok, engine

desert trench Apr 23, 2020, 1:43 PM

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this is a very old issue

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the CIT had it with TOWs

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i think its connected to simulation range

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Suma/Ondra commented on it. maybe can be found in archive org

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could have been fixed also for A2:OA but was forgotten be merged

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@fickle root did you try in A2/OA yet?

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 1:48 PM

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haven't played A2 for along time now, but I remember it

desert trench Apr 23, 2020, 1:49 PM

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https://web.archive.org/web/20151114132827/http://dev.withsix.com/issues/12101

Bug #12101: [OA] TOW control failing at distance - ARMA2 Community...

Redmine

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so you have even the build nr it was fixed

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for future reference of such cases :P
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/117349-cit-most-voted-bugs/
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/132338-please-review-cit-tickets-on-locking-radar-iff-and-related-aspects-list-inside/

fickle root Apr 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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fixed in A2 when EOL, but same error made in A3 )))

sleek scaffold Apr 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Nice find @fickle root!

coral lantern Apr 26, 2020, 4:56 PM

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PEQ laser can not be seen beyond 1.5km.... facepalms Ofc its not.... it is a <1w laser ya know...

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only thing yas need to fix regarding missles is fixing the bloody Shikra and other enemy CAP from behind able to shoot missles 'backwards' and no thats not a joke being quite literal.

coral lantern Apr 26, 2020, 9:29 PM

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oh and fix LRAA radar emitters to actually be a lockable target for anti-radiation guided missles at like a Cronus ie. the radar emission source.

fickle root Apr 29, 2020, 10:28 AM

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i have units stuck in unconscious even when armed
my workaround is:

    [_unit] spawn
    {
        _unit = _this select 0;

        sleep ((random 1) + 1);

        while {(toLower (animationState _unit)) in ["unconsciousrevivedefault_a","unconsciousrevivedefault_b","unconsciousrevivedefault_c"]} do
        {
            sleep 0.1;

            _unit switchMove "";//TODO: improve with actual transition
        };
    };```

@desert trench

switchMove "UnconsciousOutProne" ? @desert trench
@gray wharf UnconsciousOutProne doesn't help

gray wharf Apr 29, 2020, 10:30 AM

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#arma3_scripting more? also, any repro case?

fickle root Apr 29, 2020, 10:30 AM

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no, since it's not always the case, so difficult/impossible to repro

gray wharf Apr 29, 2020, 10:32 AM

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k

fickle root Apr 29, 2020, 10:33 AM

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but even before changing to UnconsciousOutProne it also didn't occur that often.
so changing to UnconsciousOutProne no improvements/changes
problem remains