ip_rights_violations

[blazing wyvern]

let them cry

[pliant oar]

DIY is only route for absolute control, in everything, starting with accounts, server hosting and ending with content distribution/management

[stark mulch]

inhouse BIS mod hosting FTW 😄

[pliant oar]

but DIY takes times/resources hence nearly nobody does it good enough

[warm urchin]

racing games have a lot of mod content that are ususally ported from other racing games

[pliant oar]

hosting itself is in fact the easiest way ... it's the system around it which will take most of time to do right

[blazing wyvern]

well duh

[hallow frigate]

Any public repo hosting site is my choice 😃 VCS included, open source and fast download without direct self hosting

[pliant oar]

public repo is nice in theory but that don't give us absolute control 😉

so, public repo with twist

[stark mulch]

do u ever?

as soon as the files are public

thats it

[blazing wyvern]

lets make armaholic official instead

[nova drift]

if your mod gets even marginally popular and you self-host your files, the costs can become immense.

[stark mulch]

u only have the license to fall back on at that point

[cobalt creek]

@nova drift Depends on where you host

Alot of the Provider here switched over to non-Trafficlimitations

But mostly a guaranteed Speed of 300-500Mbit

[pliant oar]

naive, now try adopt that for some millions of users 😉

[nova drift]

Exactly ^

[stark mulch]

that covers upto 10 people downloading 😛

[cobalt creek]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Not my Prob in that case. They can be happy that they receive any Bandwith at all 😄

[stark mulch]

i know the pain for hosting alot of mods with many people download 😄

and the shit u get when it all slows down

[cobalt creek]

"You get, what you pay for"

oh wait

[blazing wyvern]

while we at it , make paid mods

:3

[cobalt creek]

^^

[nova drift]

I wish

[cobalt creek]

DLC-Like behaviour needed for it

[stark mulch]

public EBO packer too, if we can have it all 😛

[nova drift]

Content creators lose motivation quickly when you find everyone else around you is allowed to profit but you.

[hallow frigate]

Good topic. Servers should have to pass part of their income/donations to the content creators.

[echo orchid]

@blazing wyvern
RobertHammer: well with those other sites you can at least get rid of it faster :smile:
negative, not from my own experience....i get shit down much much faster via DMCA from Steam then anyplace else

minus maybe ArmaHolic since i have a direct line of coms with foxy

[nova drift]

paid mods = toxic, Paid User Generated Content is where it is at. Just ask microsoft.

[blazing wyvern]

stolen mods arent toxic ? 😛

[cobalt creek]

Thats "life".

[nova drift]

paying for a mod is a toxic idea to most, see Skyrim

[cobalt creek]

Yes and No, tbh.

It depends on, how its regulated, tbf

Not every dumbshit should have the right to do it.

[blazing wyvern]

then DLC are toxic too if going by your logic

[cobalt creek]

Thats from the Company itself 😛 That doesn't count

in the end -> The whole fkn WS needs an Overhaul/proper Moderation... Nothing gets published, until it was checked.

They can go and upload their Crap to any other Site, i don't give a f...

[nova drift]

That is the way BI does their DLC's .they call it Paid "Content" not a mire "mod" and people accept it

https://minecraft.net/en-us/marketplace/

[blazing wyvern]

if it was up to me then i would nuke the whole SW 😛

[cobalt creek]

meh

[nova drift]

Features(Mods) should stay free, but content is paid.

It is all in how it is perceived the term "paid mod" is just way too vague.

[stark mulch]

and again, BIS will need to employ someone to monitor it all

[cobalt creek]

Soo, prolly never happens ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stark mulch]

would a "cut" of each sale be enough for pay someones wages...

[nova drift]

Sure, but Paid User Created Content could be vetted separately from SW and even impose an application fee. But yes likely never going to happen, won't be holding my breath.

[faint nacelle]

theres also all kinds of taxes for selling your stuff if things are done by the book so prices would have to be high enough to cover those too

would you pay 10-20 euros for a mod?

and larger multi people mods could cost a lot more if they ever wanted to be actully profiting per capita

but this conversation does not belong to this channel

[neon crater]

Hey Dscha, what did i miss in this shit?

[midnight vine]

@pliant oar Maybe an ip_rights_discussion channel would be good so this can stay clean for actual reports?

[pliant oar]

if you want report stuff then just use the steam report system ... random urls here aren't helping much

anyway you can be sure we keep pressure on steam/workshop improvements and IP issues etc. but it's of no use to try describe those or put some timeframe cause it's way too unstable ground

[midnight vine]

Fair enough, I just thought that people in here seem to like to discuss it even if no outcome or timframe.

[pliant oar]

ok yes i was more about when you expect me to notice every url here

[fervent needle]

You mean you dont involve yourself in arma 24/7?

What?!

[pliant oar]

ofc i do, but nobody said it's all the braincores 😉

[fervent needle]

Haha

[grand gorge]

so, I wanted to release a font pack for arma 3 using a load of fonts which are all under the SIL OFL license (https://opensource.org/licenses/OFL-1.1)

the workshop will be a no-go since I am not the original author of the fonts, correct?

but I should be fine to release the @fonts addon on github, armaholic, etc, fine so long as I license the pack under OFL, as per PERMISSION & CONDITIONS section 5?

[undone pier]

short summary

1. workshop backend is crap
2. Valve doesnt care
3. BI doesnt care enough
4. BI was just going 100% with Steam and scrapped community partnerships for alternatives
5. 2+3 = nothing will happen to status quo

[pliant oar]

?

[river spear]

@pliant oar everything's ok

It's just that people realise that workshop isn't perfect and changing to any other alterative now for would be very cost and work intensive for bohemia so everyone has to get used to workshop and try improve to

*it

[pliant oar]

nothing is perfect, even the DIY will be constantly 'need more work' 🤣

[tender hawk]

4. BI was just going 100% with Steam and scrapped community partnerships for alternatives Seems to me like Bohemia's particular about what community partnership means these days looks at B01

[carmine folio]

@grand gorge If use that logic no-one is allowed to upload any content based off Arma2 Licensed/Sample Data Files to steam workshop, because they aren't the original copyright owners.

The simple version is if you aren't copyright owner, then no you can't upload. Its also good manners to ask permission beforehand aswell, when reuploading content.
But if you scroll up you see me debating that once the license allows you modify the content & redist the changes, then you can upload to workshop aswell.
(Because valve only asks for permission to modify content, when its steam workshop content)

[echo orchid]

^^

[undone pier]

funny how Dwarden always deflects valid critism with workshop. its just the truth that Valve doesnt care and BI is powerless and now trapped fully with workshop. maybe with Valve trying paid mods once more, they will improve the workshop system again

Dwarden says its impossible to scan workshop, while people have made tools to do so. people even discuss how it is to be done in here. does BI do anything about limiting the abuse? no of course not

how about for a change BI comes forward and says "we acknowledge the issue, we will invest resources to limit the abuse". to develop a tool to scan Arma workshop via hashes and name filters should be simple for a company like BI.

[pliant oar]

@undone pier you failed to understand the problem i was talking about , scanning for unmodified stuff is one thing, scanning for deliberately modified stuff is problem

so automated tools will become less useful as the violators learn how repack and modify the packed content (the raw source data) ...

which as you missed in the discussion i said already did happen in several cases ...

it's same with hashes and crypting overal, as any encryption and obfuscation developer will tell you, that protection is only temporary as long as the keys are static and clientside

issues with steamworks and workshop API and troubles with it's search and file access features are completely another type of problems

[undone pier]

you just deflect again

there is no perfect system

there is good enough effort

and there is no effort

BI choose the latter

[pliant oar]

deflected what ? or you trying to imply i'm/we doing nothing ?

[undone pier]

what is the current situation?

people reupload (for whatever reason)

and community modders are left to track them

by manual download

and you tell me a more advanced system is pointless

its just BI abusing modders once again

aka dont care

no effort by BI

[pliant oar]

stuff is being taken down ...

i said that it's pointless in terms of hashes the moment violators learn it's using simple hash compare and simple file-name compare

already seen that happen and that was vs someone who was taken down for repeated abuse already, by manual work

[undone pier]

you just deflect again
there is no perfect system

[pliant oar]

you just want to add system, which will be defeated by simple batch operation, it;s not solving the core issue at all

[undone pier]

so what? it will stop 90% of ppl as ppl are dump

which is 90% more than now

the core issue cannot be solved

=> no effort from BI side

[pliant oar]

again you just base that on your own assumption, the uploaded file(s) hash compare request we have with Valve repeatedly

as i repeatedly said, i can't say when and if that happen

and because there is no exposed database of all hashes of all mods on workshop (including the actively preserved past variants (as some are kept in history))

it's not doable externally by DIY w/o first access to that

same goes about getting rid of the private workshop items, which are abused to hide it from IP owners while sharing to friends/server users w/e

you know i/we do care and trying do something about it, unfortunately that just take time and way often longer than anyone here would accept, including us

[cobalt creek]

But you must agree, the current state is just simply inacceptable. When i see ppl like that KickAss guy, reuploading their bullcrap over and over and over again... that can't be a solution to report them over and over again, and nothing happens to them/him. There must be something done, no matter from wich side.
SW might be easier for ordinary players, who don't want to spend time in setting up folders, but for IP-"holders" -> Unbareable.

[pliant oar]

and how would what Kju asked stopped someone like Kickass ?

[cobalt creek]

Kju (and me also) isn't talking about guys like KA. More about those who just simply pack their files together and reupload it, without any changes.

[glad sparrow]

There is no way of stopping them fully, he can always use something like dropbox.

[pliant oar]

ye but packing together is another problem too, which i wasn't even talking about

packing together would mean that ANYTHING uploaded to workshop, would need to be downloaded, unpacked and then CHECKed again

while before i was just talking about checks vs the final uploaded files

[cobalt creek]

BUT:
It would reduce it. Hey, just take a look at #arma3_questions Channel. Ppl are too lazy to google for the simplest solutions, do you rly think, they would search for a solution, when they can't upload it to the WS? My guess: >50% wouldn't. And even if -> 50% less = 50% less work for Pufu, CUP, CBA, ModNameXYZ.

I meant .p3d hash checks for example

after .pbo check failed/no positive result

[pliant oar]

for starter what would work is something like selecting specific workshop items (trustable) which hashes would be prevented to reupload (no duplicates)

[cobalt creek]

For example, yeah

That would be a beginning and a step in the right direction.

[pliant oar]

so e.g. CUP, RHS, IFA3L, TU ...

[cobalt creek]

Or even let them Register somewhere, so ppl can protect their stuff/send their .pbos to.

Hell, even i would do the checks, if the files are legit

[pliant oar]

ye i would expect later that to be just some checkbox in the workshop item owner interface but still need manual vetting by workshop admin just for sure (per account, not per item)

[cobalt creek]

would be at least a step in the right direction ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[undone pier]

stopped someone like Kickass ?
a) Valve removes his ability to upload to (A3) workshop, or gives BI the ability
b) BI flags the content and Valve removes it quickly
c) Valve gives BI the ability to remove content directly

[cobalt creek]

But that depends on Valves shit :/

[pliant oar]

a) what you think we waiting for

b) alerady doing that

[undone pier]

would mean that ANYTHING uploaded to workshop, would need to be downloaded, unpacked and then CHECKed again
what do you think ppl like PuFu, CUP and others are doing? as said BI doesnt care and the modders have to waste their time

[pliant oar]

c) can't do that except bans/incompatible

[cobalt creek]

a) Since when is this a requst? Do you know that?

[pliant oar]

kju i'm talking about automated tool, which would need download EVERYTHING and check everything uploaded since last (at some intervals)

[undone pier]

yes so what?

[pliant oar]

so, we talking of TB of data processed and it will work until the very same problem when someone starts to repack and reprocess the raw

[undone pier]

withSIX is doing this (AFAIK)

you telling me BI cant?

aka BI doesnt want to do any effort

that said for starters you wouldnt even have to do that as the guy explained a few days

just get the listing files from workshop items and go from there

this probably would already solve 90-99% reuploads for now

if removing, banning, flagging, whatever is too much for BI, you could at least inform the authors, so they could just do the the DMCA

and dont tell me its too many people - the reuploads probably just affect 100 modders/projects

[pliant oar]

yet you need scan everything, not just something

and we tend to not comment of what is 'part of effort' but unclear outcome ...

for example the methods mentioned earlier would need to be quite altered if encrypted containers are introduced

[cobalt creek]

" if encrypted containers are introduced" <- ?

[pliant oar]

that was just theoretical example about things to count with, don't try see anything beyond it
when deploying some framework for some jobs one shall avoid negating it's portion with new feature later

[undone pier]

so whats the problem to scan with everything?

for starters ignore all files besides pbo

cant see how this should be unmanagable if it can be done by hobbyists

[fervent needle]

Whats the estimated size of whats on the workshop

[echo orchid]

@fervent needle ??

[soft egret]

36k Mods a few days ago.. Dunno size

[carmine folio]

You really can't workout the size without downloading the entire thing.
Last i looked arma publisher updates the modsize. Believe the c# steamnet librart (whatever its called), has seperate interface call to update mod filesize. So its prob same thing with offical library

[soft egret]

Steam web API stuff that @amber ibex found returns filesize for every mod. But not for each file seperate.

[amber ibex]

right now still to discover: a way to check the depot data steam provides

single file stuff can simply be accessed

but multi-file stuff cannot

[echo orchid]

yeah well, i am pretty sure that is not how things were suppose to work...afaik the steam shows the size of the latest update pushed

[cobalt creek]

Wasn't it *first?

[echo orchid]

?

[cobalt creek]

It just updates with the first push, then never again?

[echo orchid]

hmmm...afaik no, it always updates even after the first push

[minor sonnet]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923467781&searchtext=

no bueno

[glad sparrow]

Just type in 'Pack' in the workshop and you find a ton of RHS, CUP, etc re-uploads.

[glad sparrow]

@echo orchid http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763002576 RHS Re-upload

[carmine folio]

^^ Pack yields so many haha Just hover on 90% of them and it starts with:

*These mods are not mine, nor do I claim too have created them, This mod pack is for ease of download for my group

[echo orchid]

@glad sparrow cheers for the heads-up

[west reef]

Why am I suddenly picturing that scene where Anakin finds where those kids were hiding?

[river spear]

A tool that downloads all workshop mods in Ordner and finds file duplicates

Anyone has the hardware and bandwidth to do that? :D

Writing a tool that downloads all mods and occasionall checks for duplicates isn't magic

But the hardware would require a lot of space and good bandwidth

[echo orchid]

space on HDD not so much, bandwidth is a non-problem

[soft egret]

Just don't store it. Store each file one by one and then hash every pbo or file inside the pbo. Ezpz ^^

[midnight vine]

Using a service like OVH's public cloud would be perfect for such a tool - you can deploy high resources machine in seconds and pay for them hourly. Create the tool and build the server, snapshot it. Then just use the openStack API to automate deploying a machine and running the program once a week or something. Costs are very cheap, even a stupid 32 core, 120GB RAM is only 1.33€ an hour. We use the service at work for servers that don't need to be constantly avaliable.

[amber ibex]

ehh .... ye ...

you guys know that there is just a one time cost involved with scanning the whole worshop?

afterwards, you just check the latest addidions

[glad sparrow]

This one contains Kickass' work,
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=784199086&searchtext=pack

[amber ibex]

problem is to keep such a service running
it costs money
so auto-steam workshop protection would not be free

and still, the only thing i need right now is a working way to get the actual workshop content to the HDD

the rest is already located and such a tool can be put together in a few hours

(just do not got the time right now to further check for the required APIs)

https://discord.gg/Vmech5u again the link in case one is interested in creating an automated tool to scan the workshop

[glad sparrow]

CUP, TAC vests and other mods re-uploaded;
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=92301242

[river spear]

@amber ibex But I'm a C# cunt :D

[amber ibex]

not like C# is required for this @river spear
it is just one of many options

and i find it particularry more simple to use c# to parse the web requests properly then doing it in c++ or c

[river spear]

C

Let's just go straight to assembler

Nah C# is fine for the job

Has everything you need built in, easy to use, why not

I just don't like working with what valve provides. Their solutions always feel so partly broken sometimes

[amber ibex]

uhh ... ye ... partial ...

they are the only thing worse then SQS

[river spear]

Lol

[hallow frigate]

Why all Workshop contents? Just do the recently added from time to time. Those remaining existend will be discovered sooner or later

Dave's lot of resources

[echo orchid]

@amber ibex so i get that you need to download everything in order to check the contents of the pbos, but using steam API, can the contents of each individual upload be checked agains say....prefixes?

[amber ibex]

probably
just like MD5 hashes or whatever steam is using
though ... such things should stop cluttering this channel @echo orchid 🙈

[echo orchid]

fair enough

[river spear]

I dont think there's a actually a freely available endpoint to fetch information about a specific workshop item

Atleast not so detailed that it prints out files and information about them but rather general information such as size

[glass coral]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=917870624
This is a ripoff of the AWS Eurofighter + Firewill's Air Weapon Systems, also lacks keys
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=30354
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28646

[cobalt creek]

I have a feeling that.... you know. (uploaded 7min ago)
Anybody willing to DL? 😄

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=924074811&searchtext=

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923736926&searchtext=

("Taunus life")
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=923743619&searchtext=

(just on the first page of "recent" in WS -.-)

[glass coral]

http://i.imgur.com/6m41DFJ.png

[neon crater]

What is with these altis life morons?

[minor sonnet]

Lol thats a bit of a rhetorical question at this point

[cobalt creek]

(btw.: 20GB Packs, i cba to dl and check them)

@soft egret Are you bored again? 😄

[soft egret]

Not really.. But I see the first one is using TFAR already :x

[soft egret]

TFAR,CBA,HLC,TRYK.. These guys are hording reasons to be taken down :d

[cobalt creek]

All 3 got CBA in it
( 923743619 ) CUP, A3L, Australia, RHS also @echo orchid

923736926 = HAFM, HLC, GNT (Gnat?), Kio ( Kiory ?), MM (?), Mrshounka, @blazing wyvern is also in it, TRYK, XCam

lemme do tha list^^

924074811 = CBA, DAR, HLC, TFAR, Tryk, zabb

[echo orchid]

@cobalt creek which one?

[cobalt creek]

923743619

[echo orchid]

ahhh got it, id pres

[cobalt creek]

Yeps

DMCA the sh** out of them. Go Pufu, Go Pufu 🕺

[echo orchid]

cherio will spank some asswhipes later on

[echo orchid]

done

[cobalt creek]

👍

[clever scroll]

Anyone have any luck DMCAing in Canada?

[bronze oasis]

On Steamworkshop? Should not be any different from the rest of the world.

[echo orchid]

@clever scroll same thing everywhere

[river spear]

@echo orchid

http://i.imgur.com/VD4m6vx.png
http://i.imgur.com/xkbsztx.png

Let the data fetching begin \[T]/

[west reef]

Is this the bit where you all begin the whole evil counsel laugh?

Actually, if this was an evil counsel, what would be the theme song playing right now as you begin scanning the workshop?

[cobalt creek]

Why evil?

[echo orchid]

@river spear 😗

[gritty path]

Yes.

[echo orchid]

@river spear the hash checking works as well, this i assume works for shit that was repacked

[fossil basalt]

Muhahahaha

[cobalt creek]

Let the W(/B)itchhunt begin! To the pitchforks!🍴 (can't find "fork or "pitchfork" -.-)

[west reef]

Because good is dumb

Also villains get better music

[river spear]

looks how the database is getting filled with hashes and file names

plays russian national anthem in the background

[gritty path]

hahaha

[undone pier]

nice work @river spear 👍

do you filter out already the non Arma 3 stuff or what about all the warez shared via the workshop?

[river spear]

@undone pier I only track arma 3 workshop objects that are mods

[undone pier]

good choice i guess

[river spear]

@echo orchid

4% through the workshop now

I think I'll have the website to scan for your own mods done by tomorrow or so

Also

this thing here contains shitload of RHS

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=924949750

http://i.imgur.com/ItU0xiz.png

Jeez that list never ends, quite shocking when I look at the raw data now

[undone pier]

👹

@river spear did you manage also to access the friends only and private mods?

[river spear]

@undone pier Sadly no, Valve strictly prohibits that

If it isn't publicly available, none of the API endpoints will list it

Unless the reqeusting party owns the mod

Or I guess if you're the developer

of that particular game it was uploaded for. However filtering the 3800 mods available right now should be enough for now 😄

[undone pier]

i heard its possible somehow. anyway public mods is a great start already 👍

[river spear]

8,27% now

This is going to take all night 😫

I'll start work on the website then, if this takes sooo long

[echo orchid]

😘 @river spear

[river spear]

Oh my god, this mod I just reported here

17 GB

How the fuck did you check those peoples files before?!

[undone pier]

PuFu has fast inet and a lot of dedication

[river spear]

I'd would probably have killed myself at that point

Or, well, written this tool 😄

[cobalt creek]

👍

[undone pier]

PuFu is shooting down other workshop items instead 😉

[river spear]

You also have to thank X39 and someone that doesnt really have a nickname here for their knowledge they gave me ^^

[west reef]

we still need to give you a theme song as you're scanning

[fossil basalt]

Air wolf theme song

[west reef]

I was thinking more this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EEJTXIGWME

[fossil basalt]

Or Ice Cube, "It was a good Day"

[echo orchid]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil basalt]

aw, come on @echo orchid surely you have a preference 😉

[river spear]

75% of the workshop indexed now.

Website is almost ready

[echo orchid]

who's a star?!

@fossil basalt yeah, spanking

[fossil basalt]

haha

I'm not going to spank you, but you can spank the hell out of all the violators!!

[west terrace]

nicely done @river spear

[amber ibex]

Actually... I am not quite sure why no one ever created such a tool yet
Well.... Probably just like usual one had to start

If just arma.studio would write itself that easy 🙈🙈

[river spear]

I'll finish this tomorrow and paste the link to the online tool here

(Sunday)

[echo orchid]

@river spear hat's off to you man!

[gritty path]

Ineed, well played. 👍

[river spear]

@echo orchid https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/preload?id=843593391

[river spear]

CUP Core -> https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/preload?id=583496184

The links that you get at the end are valid for 30 minutes, so you don't have to scan again in that time

[cobalt creek]

"Yes, we scan." 😂

[dull moon]

awsome @river spear
what do i have to enter in the search bar? if enter the mod prefix i get an invalid entry message

[river spear]

the link to your workshop item

[dull moon]

oh nice 😄

[river spear]

CUP Core

has

5829 reuploads

Around 30 workshop items have the files of it in their download

FYI: Scanning the whole workshop and updating all data in my database takes around 6 hours, so the database will be fully updated around 2 times per day

[cobalt creek]

Question: "Searching for hash possible?"

[dull moon]

dude, you are a genius

[river spear]

For a specific file? @cobalt creek

[cobalt creek]

Of course, yeah^^

[river spear]

Yes, but I will need to make that first >-<

[cobalt creek]

iirc i've seen some hash stuff before

Then... why are you writing here?

Shall i send you some motivation pics?

[river spear]

Because you haven't paid me yet

[cobalt creek]

I pay you in pictures =}

[dull moon]

😂

[river spear]

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dull moon]

is an option to download the results as a text file or table possible?

[river spear]

I can make an option for that, yes

[dull moon]

this would be great, b/c once you close the tab or refresh it, the search begins all over again

[river spear]

like i said, the link at the end is valid for 30 minutes and doesnt cause a re-lookup, but yeah, there will be an option to download it as a txt

[dull moon]

you're the man!

[amber ibex]

No need to update the whole workshop @river spear
Steam tells you when an entry has been updated

[river spear]

Right, theres an update timestamp

Thanks

I'll change that

[midnight vine]

Great work OPTIX, its already found a load of reuploads of mine. Hat's off to you. 🥇

[river spear]

@midnight vine Whats your workshop mod if you dont mind me asking? 😄

[midnight vine]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=724653802

Just a small thing i wrote for some mates.

[river spear]

And yet it has 75 reuploads

jesus

[midnight vine]

Yep... i know right. I think your tool has uncovered the real state of the WS

[river spear]

Might aswell put a hyperlink on the results page that redirects to the DMCA page haha

[midnight vine]

We just need steam to provide an API call for DMCA requests

[cobalt creek]

Automatic DMCA'ing 😂

found something? -> Press this button to send DMCA automaticly

[midnight vine]

Not quite that simple... if only. But maybe you could fill out the form directly from the tool then hit send. I know it wont happen but its nice to wish.

[cobalt creek]

Flax, that was a joke from my side 😉

[midnight vine]

My bad, only half paying attention. Shooting americans on RS Vietnam.

[river spear]

You knowwww

theres probably an API endpoint for that lol

just not documented 😄

[river spear]

@dull moon

On the result page is now also a JSON version

which is pretty much the table but as saveable text

Yup, service seems to work fine now

[hallow lark]

👍

[undone pier]

@river spear how about caching the results? like you could still say "last scan was done 24hours ago: show old result or rescan"

[river spear]

@undone pier Makes sense, will consider it

[undone pier]

cheers. do you store the hashes in a DB or something, like this should speed up the result consirably for common mods/searches

[echo orchid]

@river spear you're a star!

[river spear]

@undone pier everythings stored in the database

i can provide access to it

read-only

becaue the website is slowed down by some factors, manual queries would probably speed it up

[undone pier]

is the reuplad count based on workshop items or actually the reuploaded files found?

[river spear]

Reuploaded files

Theres also a table at the bottom that shows which workshop items those belong to

[undone pier]

yeah ive seen it. this why i was confused a bit. i think it would be useful to name both at the top like "XXX files reuploaded as part of YYY workshop items"

[river spear]

I'll change it

[fervent needle]

Sick work @river spear

[willow star]

So we get a nice little workshop massacre over the next few day?^^

[fervent needle]

Bad news
We found 1157 reuploads of your files.

Haha

[echo orchid]

@river spear you you search more than a single upload at a time (as in entering more than a single ID) - in my case AFRF, USAF, GREF and SAF?

[river spear]

you can open multiple tabs

😄

[fervent needle]

Haha

Easiest solution^

[echo orchid]

😛

[river spear]

@undone pier https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=660460283

PS: Ill add a scrollbar, your file names are too long 😄

[undone pier]

cheers @river spear

[echo orchid]

yeah a complete overview is/was really apreciated

one more suggestion if i may, in the /how part, might wanna get a direct link towards the steam DMCA page: https://steamcommunity.com/dmca/create/

[cobalt creek]

updating prog is running on my Server now =}

[river spear]

@echo orchid In the "How it works" page?

[undone pier]

you may want to filter out bikeys - they are in a sense legitimate to be shared

not necessary as its server only, yet usually people have one mod pack the same for clients and servers

[cobalt creek]

*noted

[river spear]

ay ay

captain

[cobalt creek]

back to work!

[echo orchid]

@river spear yes...and true for bikeys 😃

[cobalt creek]

I am already shouting at him to work faster

[echo orchid]

@celest quest ^

[river spear]

wait im confused

why would someone put YOUR bikeys in his mod?

[undone pier]

bikey = you may join on this server with that mod

[cobalt creek]

bikey != bisign

[undone pier]

best think of optional mods like sound or FX replacements

[cobalt creek]

In a reupload^^

[river spear]

So: Ignore .bisign

[cobalt creek]

• .bikey

[river spear]

god why am i doing this

i want to eat

🍆

[cobalt creek]

shush slave

Anything else?
.bisign
.bikey
.?

[undone pier]

bisign is kinda unnecessary too as they only work when the name of the pbo is unchanged - however as they are very tiny, it doesnt matter in terms of processing i guess. mainly would make the overview usually 50% shorter

[celest quest]

I was just saying in rhs chat, in longer term you could perhaps make this function like haveibeenpunked, so you subscribe/watch certain items, and your tool emails them when a reupload is detected (rather than having to manually check now and then). Might be a fair bit of work for a small convenience though, I've no idea

[undone pier]

maybe as a pro feature for 1$ per month (with minimum of 3-6 months subscription)

[echo orchid]

i'd pay for it

[cobalt creek]

from Optix:
In this case, you have to register on the maverik page, otherwise he has to re-invent the wheel, regarding the E-Mail stuff.

(answering for Optix atm, he is coding and crying)

[undone pier]

for the file overview at the lower half i think usually more useful is to have the result grouped per mod item (rather the current per file) (both would be best ofc)

[cobalt creek]

I am talking to him about that, your files will be "collapsed".

So you get the WS Entry results first

[fervent needle]

Haveibeenarma'd

[soft egret]

Soo.. @river spear What is the most copied Mod on workshop? :3

[river spear]

How about we run the "Most-copied-mod-Olympics 2017"

[cobalt creek]

CUP

:D
5817 Results

in > 100 Reuploads

[river spear]

Winner gets another reupload for free

[fervent needle]

Its mods that allow reuploads tbh 😛

[celest quest]

inb4 CBA

[cobalt creek]

oh yeah

[fervent needle]

Nah nah

We need a highscores table

[echo orchid]

i spank asswhipes on a weekly basis, so i cannot compete there

[fervent needle]

Most reuploads in a week

[echo orchid]

damn, might have had a chance

[fervent needle]

Overall reuploads

[cobalt creek]

Resultpage received a small update. Should look better now.

[celest quest]

yeah, a scoretable would need some kind of weighted # of subscribers of original / number of duplicates.. :P

[fervent needle]

Most dmcas filed

Lol

[cobalt creek]

https://i.gyazo.com/13752db9c49c9cd999631c5e910b4f44.png

[echo orchid]

@fervent needle that i would win hands down

[river spear]

alright too bad lads everyone of you got their log awaited results deleted now

have to rescan if you want to see your results again

BUT

it ignores bisign and bikey now and bottom list is sorted by workshop id

[fervent needle]

@echo orchid I thought of that one for you 😘

Lol

[echo orchid]

😗

[cobalt creek]

doing CUP quickly =}

[river spear]

again

[cobalt creek]

^^

[fervent needle]

Hey now

5k+ uploads on cup terrains core

Why would you even reupload that

Its not like they get updated frequently

[cobalt creek]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[celest quest]

not sure if it stopped working or if the amount of entries for CBA overwhelmed the site 🤔 (stuck at "your data is being prepared", but maybe I'm just impatient

[cobalt creek]

gimme ID pls

[echo orchid]

did you break it?

[cobalt creek]

@celest quest

[celest quest]

450814997

[river spear]

@celest quest ill try aswell

[cobalt creek]

yeah... that... erm...

takes a while

[river spear]

we are sorting

welp

[cobalt creek]

^^

I guess, there are a few in there

[river spear]

Someone requested that the entries get sorted so now you have to live with it

😄

[cobalt creek]

sry

^^

[celest quest]

did it get past it for you yet

cause mine's still sorting

[cobalt creek]

Still sorting

[fervent needle]

at this rate of sorting for cba, standalone might be released first

[river spear]

legend says its still sorting

[fervent needle]

😛

[river spear]

i believe

that one day, sorting will be done

[cobalt creek]

either alot entrys or you server sucks^^

[river spear]

i doesnt

i promise

[fervent needle]

Lots of entries most likely

[river spear]

Yes

Definitely over 5000

[fervent needle]

Lol

[river spear]

Lets just wait

I pray that it didnt crash

[amber ibex]

@river spear sources

[river spear]

Hmm shouldnt be the resources

[cobalt creek]

So, the Database is now updating every ~ 1hr 30m (+-10min) =}

[river spear]

OK I will remove sorting now

and check on CBA again

Because I feel like it crashed

[celest quest]

yeah mine hasn't completed

probably been at least 25min

[cobalt creek]

you broke it!

[celest quest]

cop that

and now I disappear, before I can be stuck with a bill for repairs

[cobalt creek]

@fervent needle Invoice! Quick

[amber ibex]

@river spear ... It was a community afford to gather the knowledge
So where are the sources

[pliant oar]

as some were asking me about how handle way-too-many items at once takedown, which they discovered thanks to @river spear crawler ...

i suggest file single global report with all the url listed via https://steamcommunity.com/dmca/create/ , reachable from http://store.steampowered.com/legal/

[river spear]

Relax, I'm more busy fixing the isuse with the webserver than releasing the source now @amber ibex

Just give me the time

OK so I updated the progressbar to put print out more steps

checking CBA now

[cobalt creek]

started

[amber ibex]

@river spear others could take Care of different things while you are doing that

[fervent needle]

Rip

[tight copper]

Why would people need the sources if a search engine?

As of right now the only thing I can think of is so they can find ways to hide from it?

🤔

[dull moon]

or if the requester is trustworthy he might want's to help optimizing it?

[fervent needle]

The source should be requested rather then given freely, its all fun and games until people start trying to hide from DMCAs or his search tool

[dull moon]

^

[soft egret]

You can only really Hide by changing your filenames/hashes.. Which.. Repacking.. We already talked about that a few days ago..

Not really a secret thing

[cobalt creek]

But for 90% of the dorks -> Enough

[undone pier]

final endboss: friends only and private mods

[cobalt creek]

-.-

[undone pier]

hidden endboss: non arma files

👻

[coral torrent]

We can ask the nsa for that infos 😃

[dull moon]

pff... nsa is jack shit agains an overly attached gf 😂

[cobalt creek]

^^

[amber ibex]

@fervent needle asking as the effort to get the knowledge was community effort
In fact: I responded to @echo orchid s request for such a tool and actively invited ppl to the channel
@soft egret and I then discovered a lot of spots where to get that stuff from and one other guy I forgot the name of due to it being 4f56... Like discovered a script that could get the required information

Not like I have any interest in moving out of the tool
I want it to be open
That's all

[river spear]

Public or invite?

[dull moon]

imo this should be left in a close and trusted circle to avoid workarounds

[quasi steppe]

Isn't a workaround as simple as changing a single line because the tool compares hashes?

[undone pier]

there can be no workarounds besides repacking files

[river spear]

Can someone give me the CBA workshop link?

[pliant oar]

@undone pier and crushing blow, analyzing of files inside files and any chunks and history traces 😉

[midnight vine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=450814997

[undone pier]

of course you can go deeper than pbo levels, yet we leave that the commerical entity BI

as alternative OPTiX can send the bills to BI for the AWS instances

[coral torrent]

^

[river spear]

Okay

Issue is fixed

everything working smoothly again, CBA aswell

CBA -> https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=450814997

[amber ibex]

@undone pier was my plan initially

@dull moon will disclose myself anyway if it is not done

[soft egret]

Can we specify filters ourselves? It's finding reuploads of our LICENSE.md and the manw logo which I have in my Distribution.

[dull moon]

@amber ibex
cant follow

[undone pier]

he wants the source public - if OPTiX wont, he will do it himself

[dull moon]

ok, but for what reason?

[undone pier]

to be used by other people

for other games, different interfaces, improvements, optimization, more features, etc - or just by open source principle

there is no harm done releasing it (besides protecting reuploads i guess)

[dull moon]

ok, for other games makes sence. but tbh i don't want 1000 ppl open up a seperate crawler for a3.

[undone pier]

best case it forces Valve to get their act together and improve their backend and management tools

[dull moon]

it's just nonsense (having 1000 a3 crawler)

[coral torrent]

And thats the point why people are afraid of sharing something like this open source. Someone can take Optix code, make his own crawler based on that and say, yay.

[undone pier]

OPTiX may shut it down again any moment (for whatever reason), or BI/Valve force him to

decentralization is almost always positive in regards to internet

[coral torrent]

There is no reason to do that, and even if so he would share it then so other can continue. If he is capable of getting this tool to run smooth and relyable (which he is), there is no need to involve other people.

[dull moon]

why should BI/Valve shut it down? is there any legal issue?

[amber ibex]

A decentralized approach is also possible
Could program such a thing

[coral torrent]

And its one thing to have an idea and some helpful snippet is one thing, but to get it running then is something different. If Optix wants to share it ok, if not not.

[soft egret]

@river spear Can you also make it possible to export the file list for each "reupload"? Straight reuploads are forbidden for my Mod.. But if you for example move something from optionals folder to Addons that would be fine. Could also be solved by making it able to filter out certain files

[amber ibex]

@coral torrent putting stuff together when others did the majority of the task is not that har

[coral torrent]

I think the comparison to just "putting stuff together" is way off ... I sat down with him for a long time where he worked on getting this done. He is thankful for having some advise and this github snippet for something, but he still did the major part of this. I personally dislike the attitude you have in this. Instead of asking one time / offering help in coding you keep flaming him for not releasing sourcecode, even though this service is not even fully up and running? Right now you look very greedy / salty because of this, aaand I think this is not what you are like usually. So relax and let him do his thing. If he fixed his bugs right now and was able to create a git repo where he can invite people that want to commit in this project (what he is doing exaclty right now), then he will tell you that.

[dull moon]

👍

[coral torrent]

You can add all the suggestions you want and improve this all day long if you like @amber ibex / others that want to get involved. - just wait a bit

[fervent needle]

As locked down as needed, if the tool needs to change hands.. Fine or if there is a small group with access to the code.. Fine. I would rather see it that way then it become common knowledge that people are using something to quickly take down their repacks so they end up repacking internally vs copy paste

[midnight vine]

At the end of the day it's OPTiX's code and he can do with it what he wants.

[fervent needle]

The tool he hosts will be able to allow users to DMCA the most common reupload problems, once it gets more public then people will dig in and host elsewhere and we have a situation like Kickass on steam, basically ghost steamworkshops with downloads elsewhere or just repacking pbos/stealing content out of them

Its not like its hidden but as long as it doesn't blow up, its for the better

[amber ibex]

@coral torrent he wanted to have it released already
I offered help
And I am neither greedy or anything else
Just fuck ass annoyed that this way of thinking resulted most of the time in not releasing anytime
I am also annoyed that to get this public properly now, I have to code it fully myself while another who got into this and used information based on public effort
But as said
Will create the tool myself as nothing will happen any time soon

You also conceive most re-upload ppl as pirates whilst the majority is just ppl not knowing better

Those who actively pirate are not catchable using that tool

[coral torrent]

Hold on, i got the domain and stuff just yesterday. So this tool is not even online 24 hours, Optix has not even shared the site for 12 hours, the thing is not even bug free working for 4 hours, and you can't stop complaining? Just to make this very very clear: Optix just asked me how to handle the .gitignore for some building stuff that shall not be syncted with github. Sooo he is just on his way to share it with you right now.

"Will create the tool myself as nothing will happen any time soon" - This is the reason why I personally would never share anything with you then. I just said you he will come back at you very soon once its uploaded, and you continue this negative attitude. I really can't help you then.

[dull moon]

🤦

isn't it possible, just for once, for everybody to pull on the same string?

no, b/c this is arma...

[dusk dew]

Need a new channel, incase there is reuploads of a workshop crawler

🙉

Sounds like everyone needs to focus on the same goal

[amber ibex]

with a closed source solution it is pretty hard to do that
that is however the quint essence of ArmA
closed source communities developing closed source addons released to closed ranges of groups
with ArmA3 starting to make the community slowly shift to public source

it is not possible "to pull on the same string" by closed source
that limits capabilities
already explained the goals i have to optix and in the channel here
but no one is listening like usual and just pushing me into defending position
anyway
/case closed
have fun

[cobalt creek]

"with a closed source solution it is pretty hard to do that"
Dude ffs, it's not even 24hrs out oO Calm your shorts

It's also not about "defending" position, you just get in here and demand it to give it to you right now and when not given directly and told just to wait -> childish behaviour. Calm down and just wait a day or two, instead of bitching around and/or beeing sulky

And now -> All friends again with calmed shorts =}

[fervent needle]

@cobalt creek im far from calm

Full rage

[echo orchid]

hey ladies, please calm your spirits

[carmine folio]

Nice work @river spear some of those workshop packs have 5-8k subscribers 😲

But I noticed this one for example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=521312507

Does it really contain CBA? On the page it lists it as a required item.

[fervent needle]

It could have part of cba in it who knows, best to download and check if needed

[merry oasis]

it's just the CBA_A3 license.txt

[hallow lark]

If you search the workshop ID, you will see it contains the CBA license txt file, and that is it.

sniped

[fervent needle]

Ah, good way to check is just plop it into the tool

Smart thinkin

[coral torrent]

http://i.imgur.com/kP3zHBL.png

[river spear]

I'll add an option to ignore file types

[fossil basalt]

Where do we send the beers? 🍻

[cobalt creek]

<-

[plucky sand]

+1

[river spear]

-1

[cobalt creek]

+2 (stop cheating and finish that already!!!11 (please?))

[pliant oar]

acquired @river spear via undef function

[river spear]

Yes

Steam won't reveal not public items

No

Source workshop item has to be public aswell

I can't get hidden items

[soft egret]

@river spear You probably can.. There is another Web API thingy that gives you details if you give it an ID.. I suppose that might also work for unlisted stuff

[river spear]

@soft egret Yes, but the automatic process only counts in thr publics one

[fervent needle]

You would have to find or retrieve that ID as well

[river spear]

Making it work with a ID that is usually not in the pool will require a rewrite of quite some stuff

[fervent needle]

Best to focus on this version atm

[river spear]

Hash

It won't detect an older version

It only works with your current files

Could think about making it so it tracks previous versions aswell

[fervent needle]

Any way to search by pbo name or by hash specifically? Then you could put in a number of hashes or names then that would pull old/current version

No need to make a system to track old versions, just pull the pbo names from current search or ID and search for those as well

[river spear]

Also saving old names will result in a huge database very soon :P

[fervent needle]

Exactly, so best bet would be just use the name of pbos as well when searching, anything thats not in the current/matching hash would be under a separate list "reuploaded previous/altered versions"

No need to store old hashes of mod changes

[river spear]

I think the current setup works for now

[fervent needle]

That way people repacking to get around hash searching would also be found

Yea for sure

Just something future/a method to not track updates

[river spear]

I'll make it so you can exclude file extensions and also make the website compare by name and or size

[fervent needle]

You the dream

[river spear]

Pay me already

Huehue

[cobalt creek]

...with pics. Okay

[echo orchid]

what are your mods if you don't mind me asking?

?

do you have a link towards these specialties?

[cobalt creek]

I bet you made it 100% on your own

🤦

[echo orchid]

so what the fuck you doing here though

@fossil basalt ^

[cobalt creek]

🤦 ²

Where is the model from?

[echo orchid]

you should really read steam agreement

[fossil basalt]

Do you have a link to your workshop?

[echo orchid]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/redthedev/myworkshopfiles/?appid=107410

[fossil basalt]

Where's that from? The model.

[cobalt creek]

"Where is the model from?"

oh ffs... what so hard to answer a question?

And since you don't know/care -> I guess it's stolen or illegaly ported from another game

YOU are one the reasons, why this channel exists

[fossil basalt]

So, you are saying you did not make the model and it was imported from another game?

[echo orchid]

so again, why are you in this channel

[fossil basalt]

I'll inform Valve as well. As for your presence here, time is fleeting.

Thievery is not tolerated.

[cobalt creek]

"i didn't know"... yeah

[bronze oasis]

The rules are briefly stated: If you did not make 100%, then don't upload it.

[cobalt creek]

*not your IP

[echo orchid]

so you obfuscate, and create a license, you ask for the way spanking thieves work, yet you are the first one to use someone's elses files...

if i'd be BI, i'd spank the shit out of people like jonzie

unfortunately, i'm not

[cobalt creek]

This is not about him right now.

[fossil basalt]

Goodbye 👋

[gritty path]

well that was somewhat entertaining. 😄

[fossil basalt]

If only we were able to use the AOL .wav file

[gritty path]

hahaha

[cobalt creek]

😂

"i thought i'd hop on the train"

🤦

"infront of the train" would fit better

[gritty path]

i know right, along with 'i didnt know' ... sigh. are they really just that dumb? maybe? i try to give them more credit than that honestly.

[fossil basalt]

Thats why I let him hang himself with self incrimination.

[gritty path]

indeed, has entertainment value that way also. 👍

[west reef]

I don't think that it's that they're dumb, but that they are used to playing dumb granting them results

[cobalt creek]

Sad but true -.-

[fossil basalt]

Ignorantia juris non excusat / ignorantia legis neminem excusat
"ignorance of the law excuses not" / "ignorance of law excuses no one"

[cobalt creek]

German Phrase: "Keinen Arsch in der Hose haben"

("not having the guts"/"spineless"?)

[fossil basalt]

I thought it was : scheißkopf

[cobalt creek]

😄

[dull moon]

wait, what did i miss? was there actually an idiot thief outing himself here... in this channel?

[cobalt creek]

Yep

[dull moon]

no way

[cobalt creek]

and asked before how to "outrun" the tool from Optix -.-

[dull moon]

what the fuck? you cant be this retarded

[west reef]

He'd make a great politician

[cobalt creek]

You can, Chris.

[dull moon]

🤦

[fossil basalt]

goes back to reading

[cobalt creek]

"reading"

[fossil basalt]

pictures

[dull moon]

do they have numbers and need to be colored?

😂

[fossil basalt]

Dr. Seuss

[cobalt creek]

😂

(FM can count?)

[dull moon]

not sure yet ^^

[fossil basalt]

only up to nein

[cobalt creek]

(damnit, we drift of to offtopic)

😛

[west reef]

Only 1 number: 34

[dull moon]

i like 42 more

[cobalt creek]

69

[dull moon]

why am i not surprised @cobalt creek

[cobalt creek]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull moon]

^^

[tight copper]

AWWW SHIT

I missed the fun again

[river spear]

Whos the guy that outed himself

[cobalt creek]

"Red"

[gritty path]

^^

[river spear]

Wait

I know that guy

[fervent needle]

@fossil basalt pls yo dont delete the chat, I needed a good read

Missed the fun

[dull moon]

chat of a baned user get's deleted automatically iirc

[gritty path]

indeed.

[cobalt creek]

nah, you can select (delete nothing, last 24 Hours, last 7 days)

[gritty path]

well to be more specific, i think Dwarden is the only one with that ability.

[fossil basalt]

I have it as well, but choose to go for the greatest amount of time. They don't deserve the attention.

[gritty path]

that is fair enough i think.

[river spear]

I gotta admit

Enhanced Movement tops you call

in terms of reupload ratio

11 files are in that mod, it has 64 reuploads

Whyyyyyyy

[west terrace]

Cos life "mods"....

[merry oasis]

but nothing tops the guy who put 491 .biprivatekey files into his upload - he probably misunderstood something

[dull moon]

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

• Albert Einstein

[queen wing]

hue

[river spear]

Alright so

you can set filters now

and also choose whether to compare by hash, filename or filesize

[fervent needle]

@river spear sick work

[river spear]

PS: The file extensions list can also be used to blacklist files from being looked through

[fervent needle]

this is a Mercedes Benz 6x6 Brabus.

The car has plates that should work with Ivory Data pbo along with unit number.

This is not 100% complete version its an almost 1 Million+ Poly car. Its a pain working on tbh.
I uploaded it because I got lots of requests for it and am currently working on it.

oh steam workshop

1 mil poly vehicle in arma

[river spear]

Hopefully it looks amazing

I hope everyone already sent out some nice DMCAs

I've seen some items disappear already lol

[carmine folio]

Reads previous messages.
Nothing makes sense
Realizes someone got das boot 🔨

[river spear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuDtACzKGRs

[carmine folio]

Dear lord...

😂

[river spear]

Oh I thought that's what you meant

[carmine folio]

Someone got banned and their messages disappeared, that's why it wasn't making any sense.

[river spear]

I'd like to point out that RHS sent out a DMCA to literally EVERY person that has reuploaded their content

Some of these mod packs are 14 GB large..

My god

[west terrace]

Nicely done

[carmine folio]

Awesome!

[west reef]

I should share this with the Operation Trebuchet team

[undone pier]

@fossil basalt can you pin the URL to OPTiX service please

[sinful geode]

Hey cool, I found even my puny mod on two ws uploads. Guess what game mode?

😑

[west reef]

Now I want to see if I can't find my mod on the list

how do I use it?

[sinful geode]

copy your workshop item id to the search

[west reef]

Aw, I don't have anyone copying my little F-16 reskin 😦

[echo orchid]

@river spear of course "they" did

[hallow frigate]

Keep going and you may create new jobs at Steam to deal with A3 DMCA complains 😬

[sinful geode]

Did that car thief take his mods down? I only see one now. And one "test" mod. I guess he's testing how to bypass the crawler...

[echo orchid]

@sinful geode he did yesterday yes

[sinful geode]

Good.
But I'm sure we haven't seen the last of him yet.

[echo orchid]

what amazes me is that this lads

actually do spend quite a bit of time configging it, making features like lighting, strobos etc

why wouldn't they spend some time making their own meshes though...

i also love the procedural colors they always use, and the fact that these meshes looks sooo...lifeless and plasticly

[dreamy galleon]

who's this "car thief"? :p

[undone pier]

@river spear nice progress 👍
in regards to sorting (or grouping) results - too cpu heavy after all?

an option to download the files in the said workshop item (aka the above file list with hashes) would be NTH too

[river spear]

@undone pier sadly not possible right now, will have to look into it

[river spear]

Alright, looks like soon even repacking won't save them

Will work on the version that has even the files inside pbos indexed

[cobalt creek]

Lets see what my Provider/Datacenter says, when i clug the Connection 😂

[glad sparrow]

The purge

[lone oyster]

Just wanted to thank the creator of the Arma 3 Workshop Crawler 😃 "Sadly" I rank pretty bad with a mere 143 reuploads

[fervent needle]

Not bad at all, gettin up there in the world

[lone oyster]

Well I still have a few addons to go so I might climb that ladder a little ^^

[minor sonnet]

Unbelievable, the numbers, steams a mess

[dull moon]

not for much longer after we have the crawler 😉

[midnight vine]

Does anyone else have the issue with the DMCA form that you always have to verify humanity twice?

[dull moon]

sometimes

[sinful geode]

Any plans on releasing the crawler to the wider audience yet? I mean publicly advertising it. Or has it spread already? Are you getting much traffic on it?

[cobalt creek]

imho, let him finish that basic version first

[sinful geode]

Of course. I just want to be there with popcorn when the shit really hits the fan. 😁

[cobalt creek]

I'll highlight you 😄

[river spear]

No idea if people use it

I don't measure the traffic yet really

[vast notch]

Don't measure traffic @river spear Just measure tears 😄

[river spear]

Well, where should I make a thread about it?

What BI ArmA 3 subforum

[sinful geode]

BI forums?

General?

[vast notch]

+1 General https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/forum/108-arma-3-general/

[undone pier]

arma 3 life forum

[sinful geode]

huh. The mod I reported already has a DMCA notice on its page. 😃

[echo orchid]

this might also be a good place to post about it

also, let me know when you go public with it, i'll re-tweat it

[river spear]

Welp

https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/204650-arma-3-workshop-crawler-find-reuploads-of-your-workshop-submissions-within-minutes/

Might need to add more text, but I couldn't think of more to write

[cobalt creek]

add the Pic of the Crawler to it 😛

https://i.gyazo.com/979072cfbb4b82694c558f276ae5a83f.png

[sinful geode]

Maybe a quick guide how to file an efficient DMCA report?

[river spear]

 And what do I do when I've found a reupload?

DMCA the shi* of the guy that uploaded it.

But honestly, if you have good faith in the person behind the reupload, kindly ask them to take it down first. If that doesn't work or the reupload doesn't seem like a mistake, use your right and file a DMCA. You can do so by clicking here. 

[echo orchid]

wrong ^ 😃 never ask politely, DMCA it first ask question later 😃

[river spear]

Lol

[echo orchid]

well, i am talking from experience, each time i asked nicely i either got my comments deleted, or had a snarky reply = waste of time

[cobalt creek]

still no pic, bit.... user love pics

[river spear]

Ahhhh

Noice

The ban reason I get from the Steam API is handwritten by someone

[cobalt creek]

?

[river spear]

magical proof that some person is actually involved in checking the DMCA

[echo orchid]

what ban ?

[river spear]

RHS bans

The ones you handed out

[cobalt creek]

wut?

[river spear]

Some of the objects you DMCAd have weird ban reasons

You only get those via the API

For example

[echo orchid]

uhhhh....you got me interested

[river spear]

"ban_reason": "copyright complaint.  DMCA notice sent.",

Thats for this workshop item https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=906781167

[cobalt creek]

"That item does not exist. It may have been removed by the author."

😂

[echo orchid]

hr hr hr...i am sure the blokes dealing with my DMCAs got used to it already

[cobalt creek]

Prolly

[echo orchid]

as i said, i only comunicated once with a guy via e-mail

the rest happen pretty fast for me at least

[river spear]

The fact that the ban reason is "copyright complaint. DMCA notice sent." makes me guess that some person manually bans the item

[echo orchid]

yeah, i could have told you that already

[cobalt creek]

He must thought, since yesterday "wtf happend to those guys??"

[river spear]

But its the same reason for all the DMCAs RHS sent out lol

I bet some guy just went down the list

[cobalt creek]

Ctrl+V 😄

[echo orchid]

@river spear will re-check it now, see if the tool still finds anything left 😉

[river spear]

I'm working on that ATM

Need to fully exclude the banned items from the search

[echo orchid]

ahh, got it ok, i am pretty sure most on the list got their shit pushed in already

[river spear]

Ill make the banned items more visible, sec

[echo orchid]

@river spear FYI:
https://i.gyazo.com/44b2217f339d9b808e25b5a0a239c67d.png

[river spear]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait

hold right there

Damn

Marek himself

[echo orchid]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt creek]

(Offtopic: btw. the Greek thingy is also over now)

[river spear]

Actually whats Marek position at Bohemia

[echo orchid]

owner 😛

[river spear]

Hmmm

[echo orchid]

https://i.gyazo.com/6e5cf0d4c66cf87ab4d8ffb6f12589fa.png

or in fact, he is Bohemia Interactive if you were to go by his tweeter

[river spear]

How the hell did he find out about this

Or does he just randomly check his twitter every 20 seconds

[echo orchid]

@river spear not sure, but it is far from the first time we got liked or shared by him (we as in rhsmods tweeter account)

[sinful geode]

He has lots of BIminions

he's like santa claus with elves.

[midnight vine]

Nice job OPTiX, anything we can do to say thanks?

[dull moon]

he likes his soilent green still warm and bloody 😉

[echo orchid]

@river spear - i just checked the list from yesterday, the purge has been complete and there isn't any trace of RHS left besides the official stuff...still the list is just the same as yesterday 😉

[dull moon]

PuFu went to battle and won the war 😄

[echo orchid]

i always win it, it's just way way easier now to remove that fog of war and target my enemies directly 😛

[dull moon]

it's like NVGs for IP violating hunters 😂;

[west reef]

So we upgraded from anakin killing those brainwashed children to the complete temple purge

[echo orchid]

complete is an overstatement, i am pretty sure there are more in private uploads

as well as some older files that i should also check by mod tag prefix

[fossil basalt]

I wasn't joking about beer money

[river spear]

@echo orchid I'm updating the actual crawler in the background to remove the items that are already completely gone

The api says they are in state "9"

Whatever that means, but apparently it means they're gone

[dull moon]

i guess it is "not avaliable for public anymore but still editable by uploader"

just guessing, never had a DMCA against me

[echo orchid]

@dull moon do upload some RHS file and we can have a test done 😛

[dull moon]

uhm... how about... nope?

😄

[river spear]

@echo orchid

It now cleans up the list properly

https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=843593391

RHSGREF

Only 3 items remaining

[gritty path]

hahaha

[carmine folio]

@echo orchid pulled his Nightstalker out...

[echo orchid]

@river spear 😗

[pure canopy]

if you check the links there is only 1 up now

[echo orchid]

yeah, the one up is a false positive

as in they kept the naming, and is just an edited config file

[pure canopy]

cheschiech_s_radio_2035.pbo ?

[echo orchid]

y

[pure canopy]

ok

thast a big config file

[echo orchid]

might need to recheck it then

[cobalt creek]

omnomnom, new DB-Updater runs smoothly =}

[pure canopy]

the file size in crawler is 100799927 Bytes

Arma Rearmed 3

[river spear]

@echo orchid

The summary page is fully cached

If you check now, the other two are already gone https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=843593391

[pure canopy]

@echo orchid there is other RHS radios on that mod

sorry radio sounds

[soft egret]

I don't get how a file with different name but same filesize and hash could be a false positive

[pure canopy]

https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=843425103

this is also there

[dull moon]

🤦

https://arma3.workshopcrawler.com/resultsummary?id=497660133

seems like some work to do

[pure canopy]

and 50% of that are life mods 😃

[soft egret]

I won't even bother doing my DMCA's 😄 I'll just wait till you guys are done. You will probably also take down most of my stuff. Because most people just copy everything :3

[dull moon]

true... after PuFu's battle campaign the number of CUP reups fell by ~20 or so ^^

[cobalt creek]

😂 just awesome

[dull moon]

prepping for battle... smokes: check - coffe: check

and here we go

[fossil basalt]

You forgot "Epic music"

[dull moon]

oooohhh, you're right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI

[echo orchid]

@soft egret my bad then 😛

[river spear]

@echo orchid new rhs reupload of AFRF

Created yesterday ^^

[echo orchid]

cheers, will spank when i get in front of a pc

[cobalt creek]

@echo orchid You are having fun, do you? 😄

[echo orchid]

to some degree yes

[coral torrent]

there is no more fun than having content on the internet dmca'd

[cobalt creek]

having them complain/rage about you for beeing right?

[coral torrent]

orgasm

[echo orchid]

yeah, i have my steam profile private for a reason

they can't even send me a pm...

[coral torrent]

#gEtRekT sOn

[echo orchid]

i get a few friend requests after each multiple spank though

[carmine folio]

Maybe have a premium option where you can get emails when a new reupload pops up

Monitor your list of mods

[coral torrent]

Good idea 😃

[amber ibex]

Gonna create an Android app for you @echo orchid

[echo orchid]

@amber ibex - i'm on IOS 😉

but much appreciated 😃

[amber ibex]

Then you are out of luck 🙈

[echo orchid]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

better on IOS than lucky i guess 😛

[amber ibex]

Wanted to get an ios dev setup for ages but no monez for

[echo orchid]

what would such a dev setup require?

[amber ibex]

Test device and a mac to upload (latter is just assumed... Might also work using Windows or any Linux distribution)

[echo orchid]

i can ask, have a friend that develops mobile apps, afaik, he only has the apple boxes for IOS reasons

[cobalt creek]

Emulator?

[echo orchid]

knowing apple, that won't work 😛

[glad sparrow]

Won't work.

[midnight vine]

@amber ibex take a look at intel XDK, allows build, test and publish for Android, Windows and iOS

*from a windows PC

[dull moon]

well, i got no words for this. i'm simply ROFL
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=740804847&tscn=1494960551
😂

maybe @pliant oar want's to laugh too?

[pliant oar]

nothing there 🤣

[dull moon]

oh, that was fast

😄

did you do it?

[cobalt creek]

hmm.. is this sfw?
https://i.gyazo.com/fe835f6eb9e8d12c27517664bd901da8.png

[dusk dew]

audiocustoms have a small p e n i s

[dull moon]

it might be small in comparison to others, but be sure i got a lot of power in it 😄

btw, hes going for comments on the CUP mods. i think he's a little pissed ^^

[pliant oar]

@dull moon no, i bet some offices somewhere in seattle are on fire ...

[dull moon]

i guess so, first PuFu with RHS and no me with a CUP DMCA rampage... 😂
and i'm not done yet

[coral torrent]

This channel has become my daily dose of entertainment now 😃

[tight copper]

Mine too

Please tell me if there is others aswell, General chat is boring compared to this one

[dull moon]

i still got some stuff to do and i think i could deliver more of this in the near future 😄

shut it @cobalt creek

😄

i know what ur up to ^^

[cobalt creek]

Then, it's time for a best of:
"Saltier than the dead sea. Reactions of User who received a DMCA complain"

@dull moon Just because you HL'd me, you arschkeks 😄

[dull moon]

😂

[echo orchid]

@river spear - love the fact that you can now DMCA directly from crawler 😛

[river spear]

@echo orchid

http://i.imgur.com/OIvIU0A.png

[echo orchid]

@river spear

oh

my

god

[fervent needle]

whatt

[echo orchid]

contents of pbos

[fervent needle]

I know 😄 thats awesome

I would limit searches to rvmat/p3d/sound files

well

or maybe allow files to be checked on/off

[echo orchid]

.paa no?

[fervent needle]

like checkboxes to search .paa/.sqf/.p3d/.rvmat/.wss/.ogg would be best

do you have to download them all to check though optix?

[river spear]

Yes.

This will take some time

[echo orchid]

@river spear no stress

plenty of pressure though 😛

[merry oasis]

that should be about 7TB of data to hash, download is probably slightly smaller because of the chunk compression