#arma3_animation | ARMA | Page 20

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:22 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/ghbXgGB

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someone wanna give some feedback?

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:23 AM

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you plug it in straight. Most animations I've seen rotate the magazine into the holder from the front.

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Like. going with the bend of the mag

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:24 AM

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id love to do that aswell, but how do you implement such a thing into arma?

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Well just angle the hand a bit. Maybe, from perspektive of your gif angle it about 5-10° clockwards. When you have the magazine, come in slightly from the front, go back till you bump into the magazine compartment, then go up. And angle the hand back suck that the magazine "clicks" in

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:26 AM

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yes but that would mean the magazine wouldnt move with the hand ingame, right?

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Don't know if that's realistic. But it seems more dynamic atleast. Not so clunky/straight.
Well I guess you have to animate the magazine too ^^

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:26 AM

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the hand would pretend to hold a magazine until its on the position where it is righ now

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if there is a way to make this happen ingame without the magazine just to pop up in the last few frames, id love to do that

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I think I have seen animations where the magazine just pops up in your hand while you are at the ammo pouch on your vest

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You already animate the magazine in your gif. Can't you just animate it further to go with the hand?

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:28 AM

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but the mag is at no point a child of the hand, right?

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well the problem is

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I dont actually implement the animations into arma 3, that I have no god damn clue of 😄 thats why I work with someone else together. that person explained to me that every piece of the weapon that wants to be animated has to be made with configs

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how do you animate the weapon using a config if you want the magazine already pop up at the ammo pouch?

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:30 AM

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There are some ways to make fancy animations with config. Don't know how though ^^

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:30 AM

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ask me about it 😄

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:30 AM

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Guess we'll have to wait for a real #animation_maker 😄

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:31 AM

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do you know someone how does?

white juniper Jan 10, 2019, 9:32 AM

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The half a dozen people that wrote in this channel yesterday. But they are all offline right now 😄

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 9:33 AM

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then I gonna wait for such a person to read all this

ruby hill Jan 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Making the magazine follow the hand is not a trivial task. The mag is part of the weapon, and thus can't be animated via .rtm

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You're left with the possibility of matching the mag to the hand via linear animations configured via model.cfg type configuration.

lone cobalt Jan 10, 2019, 2:35 PM

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thats what i assumed..

ruby hill Jan 10, 2019, 2:35 PM

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It's generally tedious and impractical to do, so virtually all addon weapons out there (including official content from arma3) do not animate the proxy along with the hand. Longest I've seen is a mag appearing at the last moment and it's just following straight up, possibly a slight angle.

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However, it is technically possible:
https://i.imgur.com/n0Oxyvc.gifv

Imgur

queen stump Jan 10, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Pls share eyesyes

ruby hill Jan 10, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Pls fix proxy simul rate 😄

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Mag proxies arent simulated at the same frequency as the host weapon, which means you can see it jittering on other characters when they reload.

queen stump Jan 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Nothing I can do personally shrug

ruby hill Jan 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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😄

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I meant to file a feedback-tracker-issue anyway for this.

queen stump Jan 10, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Oh yeah, please do

desert raven Jan 10, 2019, 5:28 PM

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AI/other than local character animations do that in some occasions I've noticed it too.

naive hemlock Jan 10, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@ruby hill can i haz awesome tool plox

deft fern Jan 11, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@naive hemlock hope it's not delayed by 1 month every time you ask 😄

desert raven Jan 11, 2019, 10:49 AM

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Should we crowd fund it?

naive hemlock Jan 11, 2019, 10:57 AM

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@deft fern 😉

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fair enough

ruby hill Jan 11, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Its currently not a priority, sorry.

naive hemlock Jan 11, 2019, 12:08 PM

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yeah man i know, still in awe about it 😃

white juniper Jan 13, 2019, 7:28 PM

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I want to make a "static" object with rtm animations. I have the fbx with animations inside it.
I looked at the fbxToRtm tool in Arma3Tools. Do I need to create a bind pose for my object? It doesn't have a skeleton that already exists in game like the humans or animals

thorny anvil Jan 13, 2019, 7:30 PM

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you need bones to position the model.. static cargo positions are typical of this.

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nothing stopping you creeating your own skeleton with the namedSelections you choose to use.

white juniper Jan 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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I see I need to create a skeleton config as xml and will need to write the model.cfg skeleton too. No problem.
What is that bindPose fbx that one can select in the fbxToRtm tool, and do I need it?

desert raven Jan 13, 2019, 7:33 PM

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@white juniper where did you pick the xml requirement?

white juniper Jan 13, 2019, 7:34 PM

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from the "fbxtortmgui" tool. It asks for a model config. And the file explorer asks for xml filetype

desert raven Jan 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Oh.

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Well then that's likely right. :D

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Never used that tool.

lone cobalt Jan 14, 2019, 1:30 AM

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sooo.. there is this: my weapon now does that jump when the reload animation begins. https://imgur.com/a/Ost0wgI

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whats the best way to get rid of that?

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re-adjust the animation?

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its probably the head, isnt it?

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footage is coming

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https://imgur.com/a/iw4J0Qa

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im so frustrated.. 😄 this is the very final polish for me to finish this g36 project

lone cobalt Jan 14, 2019, 2:07 AM

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I would like to combine this question with another one: are there any templates aviable that have the exact pose of when the player just stands still with his weapon raised?

sterile ice Jan 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I'm pretty sure toadies rig for max fits perfectly. Haven't tried any for blender.

naive hemlock Jan 14, 2019, 10:04 AM

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check the FBX provided with the samples or tools - it has all the static poses you would need

white juniper Jan 14, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Never used that tool. are there other ways to do it that might be simpler?

desert raven Jan 14, 2019, 2:38 PM

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well I use Blender and armatoolbox so can import directly to .rtm

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in a time long before I've used fbx to transfer the animation into OB and saved the rtm there

white juniper Jan 14, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I tried that too. And got the animation frames into OB but the animation was not correct. Like instead of turning left/right it turned up/down and parts stretched and bugged into eachother.
Basically it didn't load the animation correctly. Maybe just some fbx export setting

naive hemlock Jan 14, 2019, 2:58 PM

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i personally didn't get the gist of that fbx2rtm

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and blender feel convulted to work with when i am familiar with another package, but at least it exports rtm directly perfectly

ruby hill Jan 14, 2019, 10:17 PM

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I use FBX2RTM extensively.

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BI's version however uses an old fbxSDK, so it simply doesnt work with newer fbx file versions.

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I use it to batch convert anims I made.

desert raven Jan 14, 2019, 10:18 PM

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ah mondy you beautiful butterfly

ruby hill Jan 14, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Make tons of actions in blender, export those to FBX helper skeleton, (best done via script), and then RMB on that export folder, send to FBX2RTM.bat I made and off it goes converting all my new FFV anims.

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luckily blender spits out old enough FBX for that tool 😄

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/FBX_to_RTM

However, Mobu 2015 has been tested and does not work with FBXtoRTM.

suggests that BI never actually upgraded the embedded SDK.

FBX to RTM

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"fixing" rifle/launcher bug

this appears to be an issue with the MoBu rig they are using. Never encountered such a problem.

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Export .rtm via Objectbuilder is possible, however you must use the correct model for it.

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FBXToRTM\skeleton\Male\Male.p3d

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This one is neutrally weighted, meaning each vertex is only skinned to a single bone.

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When exporting .rtm from this model, OB will be able to calculate a fairly accurate bindpose using these to create an .rtm that can be used on other meshes than this.

if you expor an .rtm via OB from your custom character with proper skinning, the resulting rtm will be not universally useable, and only look correct on your model.

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In case of making animals, this way can be used. But it's not correct and will mess up should a different type of animal try to use the same anim with same "t-pose"

lone cobalt Jan 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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the Arma 2 Animation samples in the Arma samples folder, are these exclusive arma 2? or are they used in arma 3 aswell?

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I still struggle getting a proper template ready. I think I used an outdated rig from toadie

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I think I definetly need help from someone who is familiar with such things..

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Ive got my hands on a file that may have just what I need. Problem is, I cannot put the main pose from that file into the rig of my animation. The unit scaling is completely different

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Export .rtm via Objectbuilder is possible, however you must use the correct model for it. Problem is I have my own skeleton, not the Arma human one or anything that's already there.
I can figure out how to do human animations by using the existing skeleton. But don't know where to start with a custom skeleton.
How do I export RTM from OB? couldn't find the button anywhere ^^

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are these exclusive arma 2? or are they used in arma 3 aswell? Afaik the Arma 3 human skeleton didn't have many changes. You probably have to do some minor converting though to get it to work

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 8:47 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/ClDuOok.png

Imgur

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This is how you can export .rtm from OB. Right click into the animations window.

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A2 and A3 anims are compatible.

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@white juniper

Regarding 100% custom skeleton:
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/201941-operation-blockhead/

I have released full sources for this, that should get you started.

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Operation Blockhead

Heya,

 



Almost half a year ago a purely curious adventure into Arma3's animation setup got out of hand and turned into what this is now.
However,...

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Wow. Never even thought of right clicking there 🤦
Ah right. Completely forgot about that

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 8:52 AM

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Are you making new character/animal/lifeform anims, or static building destruct .rtms?

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The latter is configured completely differently.

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:53 AM

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I am making a fox that turns his read left and right 😄

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 8:53 AM

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ok then my lego sources are good to go. 😄

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:53 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329978448938532868/534415586416001035/arma3_x64_2019-01-14_17-10-54.png That one. Just human sized and looking cute

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Postal 2.

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Yeah People already told me that ^^

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Attachments cant have .rtm though.

white juniper Jan 15, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Yeah. Just example of the model. I have a bigger variant that sits on the ground that I want to use as a Arsenal access point.
Just sitting around, wagging his tail and looking around from time to time.
Can probably do that with model.cfg too, but I don't really wanna go to that effort

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508635914646323202/534089492794048522/2019-01-13_20-20-52.png That. Just looks boring when it's so static. Though it already glows in the dark.

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 9:17 AM

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oh genuinly cute

queen stump Jan 15, 2019, 9:22 AM

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That's nice!

ruby hill Jan 15, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Let me if you encounter problems with the lego sample man, it should let you do exactly this.

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The sources also contain an .xml for Fbx2RTM. 😄

regal dawn Jan 16, 2019, 6:27 AM

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This song was obviously the inspiration behind @white juniper ‘s Fox mod: https://youtu.be/jofNR_WkoCE

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All joking aside, excellent work on the design 👍

vapid cairn Jan 16, 2019, 9:46 AM

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Will you actually release the foxes as a mod?

white juniper Jan 17, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Well they are just static objects. Maybe with a wagging tail. So not really that useful I guess?
I might throw it onto the workshop, But it's really just static object that acts as ACE Arsenal and a goofy looking silencer ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sterile ice Jan 17, 2019, 10:11 AM

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👀

queen stump Jan 17, 2019, 10:17 AM

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That sounds already worth releasing eyeskang

white juniper Jan 21, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Btw mondkalb. In a macro in a config.cpp you use scope = ##integer##
But scope = #integer should be enough

white juniper Jan 21, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Shouldn't be too hard figuring all this out.... Except that I never used blender and don't even have it installed :D
Does the bindpose model have to be cubes on every bone?

Okey Arma toolbox says I need to enable Arma stuff in the object properties.. No Arma stuff there though..
Maybe the toolbox doesn't work with latest blender? I don't have enough time to learn blender just to make some small animations 😄

lone cobalt Jan 21, 2019, 5:26 PM

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it works fine for me

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do you use the 2.8 beta?

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addons from 2.7 do not work in 2.8 any more

white juniper Jan 21, 2019, 5:33 PM

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2.79 I tried. the standalone zip version

lone cobalt Jan 21, 2019, 5:34 PM

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you sure you took the files into the correct path?

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should work

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But I can confirm that the arma tooblox should work with 2.79

white juniper Jan 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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yeah. The plugin worked. I could import/export p3d's. Just the stuff in the object properties panel wasn't showing up

lone cobalt Jan 21, 2019, 5:35 PM

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idk that should work aswell

desert raven Jan 21, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I had that happen. Just reinstalled the toolbox and it was fine again.

lone cobalt Jan 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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"have you tried turning it on and off?"

desert raven Jan 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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that does really help occasionally

lone cobalt Jan 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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it also can fix a broken marriage

shadow holly Jan 22, 2019, 9:40 AM

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How would one start making custom player animations? A google search did not yield much as far as tutorials, which I skimmed. These mainly show how to add triggers and using vanilla animations. Essentially I'm trying to recreate from scratch a mod/script that never got released; a more fluid light saber animation for personal use. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

desert raven Jan 22, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Animation part should be done with proper tools and compatible Arma skeleton (blender+macsers armarig / max+toadies rig).

Then there is the configs for the animation to play properly in game that has very little documentation. Most of the time it's all about studying the vanilla configs and finding something similar that you can adapt to your use.

And then there is the scripting side for which there is nothing written down for such specific use, but possibly studying the example you want to improve might be a good place to start. The scripting commands and their generic use is documented fairly well in the wiki.

lone cobalt Jan 22, 2019, 10:07 AM

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I can only help on the part with the raw animation

desert raven Jan 22, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Also might add that what you want is likely very difficult to achieve so do pack a lot of patience

shadow holly Jan 22, 2019, 10:10 AM

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I just got "done" learning dialogs... lol that was fun. thank you for the input! I'm surprised of the lack of tutorials on this subject Web side

ruby hill Jan 25, 2019, 9:47 PM

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@white juniper
sorry, only got back to regular PC+Internet now.

Not sure what config you are referring to, but

scope = MACROVAR;

will work just fine. no need for any #-symbols if no concatenation is needed.

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Single #-symbol just wraps the following in quotation marks, which are not really needed needed in configs at all. (To the horror of many people :D)

white juniper Jan 25, 2019, 10:13 PM

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ah yeah the stuff from that guy.. Right. He didn't need quotes in the path element at all

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^^

winter fiber Jan 26, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Does a3 have facial animation? If im making a chin strap is there bones for me to weight it too? Im not finding any facial rigs in the samples

desert raven Jan 26, 2019, 6:58 AM

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It has and there is a sample bust in there I recall.

sterile ice Jan 26, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I think the bone was called Llip(double L) , not sure tho.

desert raven Jan 26, 2019, 9:42 AM

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there are others too

final gull Jan 26, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Friends. I want to do a simple animation of waving his hand. Tell me what I need to create an animation. Thanks.

desert raven Jan 26, 2019, 10:29 AM

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2 Most common options would be either using Blender and Macsers Armarig or 3dMax and toadies armarig.

Both Blender and Max have huge amount of tutorials on how to use the animation tools to make the animation ready for exporting.

The method of exporting however differs.

For Blender I would recommend FHQToolbox that allows you to export directly to RTM (Arma animation format) and with 3D max you would export them as FBX and import into Object Builder into one of the Arma Sample P3Ds and export again as RTM

final gull Jan 26, 2019, 11:12 AM

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@desert raven Thank you! How to create config?

desert raven Jan 26, 2019, 11:18 AM

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youll have to look how Arma animation configs classes are done and find one that fits your need and make a new version of it

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for animation configs there is not really tutorials available

winter fiber Jan 27, 2019, 4:24 AM

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@desert raven Where are you seeing this bust? Im only able to find the normal body skeleton, none relating to lip bones. Im in Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01

desert raven Jan 27, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Might have been Sample RTM perhaps

dusk kindle Feb 2, 2019, 11:20 AM

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Am I right to think that the game's RTMs aren't meant to work with A3_character_example.p3d? (when previewing them with Object Builder/Buldozer)

drowsy nymph Feb 2, 2019, 11:31 AM

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they're binarised

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there are a couple of unbined ones in \Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Anims

dusk kindle Feb 2, 2019, 11:34 AM

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bummer, that's what I'd figured :/ I was hoping to preview all the game's RTMs with the tool

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I can probably just script something to do that ingame instead

drowsy nymph Feb 2, 2019, 11:37 AM

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there's an ingame animation viewer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VptM3K5bRoU

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though I think there's also one in the debug console now maybe

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yeah, the "animations" button https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/images/8/88/Arma3_Debug_ExecutionResult.jpg

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Also this, but I've never tried this one https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/219181-wip-anevi-animation-easy-viewer/

dusk kindle Feb 2, 2019, 11:41 AM

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Oh wow those are perfect

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Thanks man, you've saved the day for sure

spice walrus Feb 6, 2019, 9:46 PM

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This one is good also @dusk kindle
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1341387001

dusk kindle Feb 6, 2019, 11:21 PM

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@spice walrus awesome, thanks! Anything that makes looking through the stock anims easier is welcome

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 10:25 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4d9FuXT8Q Soon!

YouTube

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Arma 3 New Animation Workflow

It's been a long time coming, and honestly I had this crap figured out a long time ago, but never released it. Check back here soon for a link to the downloa...

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desert raven Feb 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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soon™ 🤔

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Very soon

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:24 PM

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wohoooo, fbx2rtm is being used by someone other than me 😄

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:24 PM

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You don't remember helping me set up the Bindpose stuff? @ruby hill XD

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Uhm... errr 😊

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:26 PM

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haha, it was a year ago, I'll let it slide 😛

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:26 PM

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😄

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:27 PM

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A lot of people use max, and there hasn't been a defacto rig that works with FBXtoRTM with it

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:27 PM

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some ideas to improve it, as fbx2rtm really makes batchprocessing easy, too.

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first check if rig and bindpose have a camera bone

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you'll need it for prone reload variants.

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:27 PM

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oh really?

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I have a camera but it's more for visual stuff, where would it go exactly?

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Otherwise you get a nasty jump in 3rd person when reloading while prone

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Another thing:
I've made a small toRTM.bat in my sendTo folder, it consists of this

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    echo %%i
    "G:\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\FBXToRTM\Fbx2Rtm.exe" -cfg p:\animsource\modelbox.xml -skeleton ManSkeleton -bindpose "P:\ANIMSOURCE\bindpose_w_camera.fbx" -fps 30 -scale 1.0000 %%i
)
pause```

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:28 PM

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ecamera

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:28 PM

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This uses fbx2rtm's command line interface

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yes

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

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The bindpose is acting as the skeleton in my rig

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it's constrained to the rig

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and then FBXtoRTM is converting them into proper naming

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I guess it's the modelbox.xml that does it

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Yes it is.

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camera bone's parent is "pelvis", but it may need manual repositioning and relying just on the parenting will not always match the other anims.

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resulting in camera jumps in 3rd person

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:30 PM

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let me check my hierarchy

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I think BI used a 1.3m offset upwards from pelvis and just bakes that in.

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

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hmm, it's linked to spine2

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:31 PM

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going off memory. In vbs its parented to pelvis 😄

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Ahh, I think this is based off the old Bindpose they provided us, so I haven't changed the hierarchy

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I don't want to break anything if I change it

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Camera bone should always stay above whatever it's parent is, like a simple addition of the offset to boneposition in modelspace (not bone/local space)

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"Camera","Pelvis",

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from model.cfg of character's base. So its deffo still Pelvis

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Ok I can change that, not a huge deal

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Important: .rtm files contain no hierarchy

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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I hadn't really noticed

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:34 PM

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So the hierarchy in your rig is really unimportant in regard to arma. You can join your bones in your rig as you see fit

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Oh, well then I don't really need to change anything 😛

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Yes

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You can also add a shittonne of helper bones and use them with modifiers

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like weapon slots for rifle/launcher on back,

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:36 PM

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I think these are meshes that get converted over into bones

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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your exporthelpers are. ePelvis for example

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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so you can actually animate the camera and have it affect the FPS camera in game?

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Yes.

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Thrid person only.

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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oooh I see

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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First person is tied to pilot-memorypoint, which is skinned to Head bone

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Oh shit wait

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WAIT

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that means I could make an action cam

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Thats why some of Bi's anims have the head detach and move around

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:38 PM

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I guess I'd need to remake all the animations for action cam though XD

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:38 PM

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action cam, now here's a massive blast from the past that basically nobody knows about

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:38 PM

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I remember it being a big deal in the ghost recon games for console, and gears of war

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:39 PM

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All the way up until 3den you could select specific camera maneuvers in a trigger in the editor. Like camera circle around, zoom in, etc.

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These were in fact .rtm controlled.

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:39 PM

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interesting

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Which means, if you set up your own small camera animation rig, you can make really awesome nonlinear camera movements and have them play

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:40 PM

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What would be nice is if I could overwrite specific bones in an animation, that way I'd only need to animate the camera specifically

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:40 PM

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gestures do that

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:40 PM

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So I could have an action cam gesture?

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:40 PM

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They're layered animations that BI for some reason called gestures 😄

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Yes you could.

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:41 PM

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huh..

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Have it affect camera bone only for some change in 3rd person camera behaviour

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:41 PM

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ideas....

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:41 PM

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same for head in first person. But there obviously the head will move around 😄

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:42 PM

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yea

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I'll mess with that at a later date, would be nice to have some dynamic movement in the camera

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something subtle

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:43 PM

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camera type objects have always been awesome jokers to hack anything

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You could attach vehicles to cameras in arma2 still 😄

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And then move them around using camera's camSetPos and camCommit.

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With A3's vehicles moving into PhysX simulated scene this stopped being possible 😦

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:45 PM

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that's a shame

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:46 PM

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It was particularly great for horror/zombie missions. Attach a particleSource to a camera and have it float trough the forest, following players, drawing pentagrams and such

digital steppe Feb 7, 2019, 11:46 PM

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haha

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sounds fun

ruby hill Feb 7, 2019, 11:46 PM

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Slow-motion missiles without needing setAccTime 😄

lone cobalt Feb 8, 2019, 10:27 AM

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looks great! whats that in his hands? some kind of bullpup xm8?

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Would like to try my hand at weapon animation, have a few early beginner questions if anyone is feeling generous with their time;

Haven't yet got my head around when and where per-weapon animations take effect. For instance when switching to my weapon how is the transition interpolated/blended to reach my weapon raised pose?
Related to the above, given several different man rigs around how important is it to have a starting pose which exactly matches the default soldier pose. If it is important how do the different rigs compare in this respect. I guess what I'm asking here is what steps need to be taken to avoid unsightly snaps/jumps?
If I was feeling masochistic, is it possible to do the whole workflow in ObjectBuilder? So far I can import an unbinzarized rtm (from Matrices) over a skeleton p3d and step it but I haven't the foggiest what menu/tool would allow me to manipulate joints.

ruby hill Feb 8, 2019, 2:28 PM

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No need to worry about this. The configuration of the entire moves setup takes care of fading in and out of weapon hand-animations
Very important to avoid visual artifacts from appearing when transitioning to a new anim (i.e reload prone or reload layered animation)
Yes

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Thanks very much. Confess I was still pretty confused as there appeared no concept of bones anywhere in OB but have just found a video by eggbeast which clarifies a lot, skeleton is a mesh?

zenith token Feb 8, 2019, 3:14 PM

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its just that there is no IK in OB... so you have to move every bone on its own, and they are never attached. So if you move the shoulder, the hand stays where it is. And there is no safeguard. So you can create spaghetti man accidentally easily

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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its not very efficient animation tool

zenith token Feb 8, 2019, 3:15 PM

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you can make pure static vehicle sitting animation if you feel like it, but anything dynamic (or anything involving fingers)...

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:17 PM

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ok, blender it is (though I haven't warmed to it so far, none of the ways of interacting with it i might try intuitively yield expected results) just, you know, you want to spend your time making rather than learning yet another new tool

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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but you cant do stuff if you dont know how to use the tools

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it applies to everything

zenith token Feb 8, 2019, 3:19 PM

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you dont need to know how to model to animate though

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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sure, just a question of how differently it works to what you already know

zenith token Feb 8, 2019, 3:20 PM

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so you dont have to learn the full skillset

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:21 PM

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for instance still haven't found the key/mouse combo that will let me pan the view in blender, normally expect some combination of ctrl/shft/alt and LMB/RMB

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just slow when you have to google every little thing

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/editors/3dview/navigate/navigation.html

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@light pollen

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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ta

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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learning the tools is necessary evil.

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and its only evil if you think it is

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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so macser's rig is the way to go?

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and let's say i was animating a new launcher, is there a place i can find an existing launcher pose so I only need to tweak the hands?

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:31 PM

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you would need Mikeros subscriber tools for DeRtm tool so you can convert the animations back to readable format

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:32 PM

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roger, get from the game release

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any advice on bringing the debinned rtm into blender?

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:34 PM

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you will want the rtmimporter addon

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:34 PM

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thx

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:34 PM

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its on github

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the link might be around this channel somewhere too

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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is it this one; https://github.com/4d4a5852/rtm_import

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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thats the one yeah

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:36 PM

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sigh python, oh, right python runtime is built-in to blender

desert raven Feb 8, 2019, 3:39 PM

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indeed it is

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and the addon will just add an import button into the import menu

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you dont have to do anything special

light pollen Feb 8, 2019, 3:44 PM

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thank you chaps, seems i have everything i can think of now, time to watch some videos

ruby hill Feb 8, 2019, 10:11 PM

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So if you move the shoulder, the hand stays where it is.

The sample skeleton unit should have hierachical bone selections that let you work around this. But you shouldn't be animating in O2 in the first place

drowsy nymph Feb 8, 2019, 10:36 PM

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The Arma 2 sample skeleton was better, sadly. At least that one had automated positioning of the local axis

light pollen Feb 9, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Do you know then why in this video eggbeast is apparently able to move just hands and have the arms move automatically via IK?

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https://youtu.be/ARXJhG5bYEk?t=285

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I think he says the RTMs he's working with are from A2.

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@acoustic oar

naive hemlock Feb 9, 2019, 1:33 PM

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@light pollen it is a handanim, not a reload anim

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basically it is the pose

light pollen Feb 9, 2019, 1:35 PM

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right, and the case here is that the engine only incorporates the hand positions relative to the weapon? (i think i read somewhere)

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"RTM of handgrip is configured in the weapon config and engine uses only hand bones position relative to weapon bone." - Armored_Sheep

desert raven Feb 9, 2019, 1:39 PM

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in weapon animation only the hand and finger positions are read in their relation to the weapon bone on the character

ripe lotus Feb 10, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I have flaps in a jet (obviously). How can I make them accesible with two sources that dont add to each other? I mean I want to hook flaps to source rpm and flap. But for both the angle is the same and they add so it effectively makes it double maximum angle of rotation

zenith token Feb 10, 2019, 2:45 AM

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thats the only way. there is no formula driven thing

digital steppe Feb 14, 2019, 9:29 AM

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https://gum.co/KAOLj Alright, I finally got to releasing the rig, don't be scared, it's free, just put in 0.

Gumroad

Arma 3 Rig and Guide

This Rar contains a 3DS Max file for the Arma 3 rig that I made, as well as some additional files and a PDF guide.

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Enjoy, let me know how it goes.

sterile ice Feb 14, 2019, 11:37 AM

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You're a legend🙌

ruby hill Feb 14, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Bad form. No credits given to the people whose work you built on AND asking for donations. 0/10

digital steppe Feb 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I had help from a lot of people, which is why I thanked everyone

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I'll make amendments if you want your name specifically on the document

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The truth of the matter is that I shouldn't of had to build this rig and introduce the ability to use FbxtoRtm in the first place, if there's bad form anywhere it's on BI's part.

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And I'm not sure what you mean by the work I built on, I can't credit anyone really because I made all of that by hand, no one else did anything @ruby hill that includes needing to edit the broken bindpose and modelbox.xml, which belong to BI, who I credited

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Other than the original mesh, bones (come to think of it, I re did those as well, in a way that would retain the original skinning of the mesh) and the inclusion of the bindpose stuff, it's all mine baby.

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And building it took time and effort, as well as making the guide, I see nothing wrong with asking for donations

lone cobalt Feb 14, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I wish I could take a look right now. but its valentines day. A mans gotta do what he must do

light pollen Feb 15, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@drowsy nymph The Arma 2 sample skeleton was better, sadly. At least that one had automated positioning of the local axis By this do you mean that the A2 sample had selections defined with a local axis for each joint (and its whole descendant mesh)? If so should I assume from your comment that neither BI nor anyone else has ever released the same for A3? EDIT: Nevermind after fossicking through the A3 samples I found a combination of source files that more or less explain what I was asking.

light pollen Feb 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Also can somebody confirm my understanding of 'weighting' a model? If I had to guess I'd suppose it controls how completely a vertex conforms to movement of the bone/selection it's linked to? If that's correct would it then be right to say it's largely a matter for clothing and the base (naked) character mesh typically conforms 100% to skeletal movement?

ruby hill Feb 15, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Replace "weighting" with "influence", then that concept should be easier to understand.

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Note that there is a limit: A vertex can only be influenced by up to four bones (not named selections, these are different)

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Not sure what you mean by 100% conforming to skeletal movement. There is no other source but skeletal for characters.

light pollen Feb 15, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Thanks very much, everything I needed to know.

regal dawn Feb 15, 2019, 9:04 PM

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can someone give me the name of a vanilla "talking on radio" animation please?

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 7:59 AM

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Thanks to those who have helped with my questions, making progress. To set context, I'm still exploring OB as an animation tool. Appreciate this ignores your expert advice but I have no ambitions as a modeller/animator - just looking to extend my ability to put stuff in game (with small tweaks and/or new hand pose) and OB is v. convenient (at this stage I think worth putting up with lack of skeletal constraints).

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Am I right in supposing that the source for matrix export is all vertices in the named selection resolved to some sort of average vector (in lieu of a 'bone') which is compared (translation/rotation-wise) with the same selection/vector in the T-Pose?

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

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rephrase the question plox

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 10:46 AM

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I'd like to see if I can assemble an OB 'rig' that combines a poseable skeleton with the actual a3 character mesh. I'm hoping I can bring the mesh in as 'work selections' (prefix '-') so they'll be (AFAIK) ignored when it comes to exporting matrices and then have a very simple 'triangle man' skeleton beneath (plus work selections which include a local axis for descednant nodes). So I'm just trying to get my head around what is/need-be weighted, what won't/shouldn't-be and which bits will actually be the source for matrix export.

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AFAIK the matrices represent translation/rotation when compared to the t-pose but in a conventional workflow i expect these would be simple bones (origin, direction, magnitude) where OB seems to use an actual mesh comprising many vertices. So, specifically my question is how is the mesh associated with each named selection converted to DX matrices (being more complex, by virtue of having many more data points than a bone).

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 10:49 AM

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OB doesn't use skeleton per see

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there is a Tpose someplace in your samples or tools, but that is just a simple representation

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what you'd want is a base mesh in Tpose where you could transfer weights from the base mesh to a new mesh

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i for one haven't tried that myself, but afaik, you cannot transfer weight from mesh to mesh B like you can with other software out there

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there are 2 tools i haven't tried and i am not sure how they work

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tools - copy weights
and
tools - weight automation

that you might wanna look into

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 10:53 AM

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thanks, sounds like i need to start with the a3 character sample as the initial model (with weights intact)

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and bring simple 'skeleton' to that

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 10:54 AM

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SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01\A3_character_example.p3d is in Tpose

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again, you need to get your head around how the skeleton works in A3

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there isn't one

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not in the general sense anyways

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SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\FBXToRTM\Skeleton\Male\male.p3d

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

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no ('skeleton in general sense), hence my question/assumption about how it generates matrices from a mesh rather than a bone. i'm guessing the collection of points can be resolved to a vector (probably similar to OB direction-from-faces) and then compared with the same thing for the same selection in the anim frame.

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 10:59 AM

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the animation matrices for rtm

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is nothing more but a set of translations/rotations/scale anims

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based on a set of “origin” points which are the joints

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you can indeed set a new custom skeleton if needed, but then again, all the existing rtms won’t work

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can i ask what you intent doing?

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might be easier to answer things more acurate

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 11:04 AM

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nothing special/particular just my first foray into anims and still doing 'tool selection' for my purposes it is most convenient to use OB so I'd like to generate the most accurate/useful base model.

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probably the first thing i'd actually want to produce is a full set of jump anims (there's only the rifle raised variant in the base game)

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

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my 2 cents here

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you are gonna hammer some nails into your own foot

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trying to use ob to create an animation from scratch

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the entire point of a proper keyframe animation is to get manually do the least amount of manual keys

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and let the rest “interpolate” on its own

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with adjustements when/where needed

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and that is something ob cannot do. so you’ll be forced to do a single frame at a time for all the frames needed

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this is why everyone suggests you use a proper 3d software

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for that sort of thing

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 11:11 AM

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roger, appreciate (all) the advice, animation from scratch isn't something i'm planning to get into, just a few adjustments to existing anims

drowsy nymph Feb 16, 2019, 11:12 AM

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If you're not satisfied with it the current skele and are wasting time trying to make an pose-able skinned character model, logic would suggest that in fact it is not the "convenient" workflow you think it is

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 11:12 AM

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if that comes from monkey

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who is more OB savy than myself

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and doesn't have a inner hate towards it

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says it all

drowsy nymph Feb 16, 2019, 11:13 AM

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I've used OB to animate things before, but accepted that if i want to see it on a skinned model I need to export the .rtm and import it to another instance of OB

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but nowadays i just use Blender with Macser's rig and Alwarren's exporter

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 11:15 AM

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my thinking was effort now, convenience thereafter (from matrices, export matrices)

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 11:15 AM

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does macser rig/alwarren exporter importer combo

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allow RTM import as well?

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@light pollen what i am trying to say is that OB is simply not worth the effort for some stuff

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i personally use it just for setting up some things

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there are way way faster ways to achieve anything with a proper 3d software than it is with OB

drowsy nymph Feb 16, 2019, 11:17 AM

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@naive hemlock AFAIK the manipulators don't work right after importing .rtm

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but the rig itself would make recreating poses somewhat less of a hassle anyway

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or building the new pose from scratch

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or maybe just animating the parts you want and doing the "paste over selection" crap in OB to add it to an existing .rtm

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 11:24 AM

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beyond ease of rtm import/export i also wondered if the original a3 mesh over the original a3 pivots would yield more accuracy, a video series i watched on using blender suggested nobody's rig is really super accurate when it comes to finger placement (meaning repeated trial exports to game are required to refine this).

drowsy nymph Feb 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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super accuracy of the fingers will go out of the window on some models anyway because the gloves etc aren't always weighed the same as the bare hands, and have different scale/geometry

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 11:33 AM

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well i expect i will throw in the towel and swim with the tide eventually but i'm going have a go at this, might potentially turn into a useful resource and certainly will be a good learning exercise. i very much appreciate you all sharing your advice/experience.

desert raven Feb 16, 2019, 12:00 PM

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With some trickery Blender rig can be made to use the imported RTM with constraints.

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The constraints just have to be enabled and perhaps tweaked a bit after RTM import.

tired depot Feb 16, 2019, 3:07 PM

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By default, importing with the addon is going to disable the ik constraints. The widgets, and ik targets won't have any keys in the rtms. But the standard bones do. You'd get a right old mess as the ik solvers conflict with existing keys. If you wanted to use ik on an existing animation, I'd suggest removing the keys for the limbs you want, then switch the ik constraint back on. Animate. You can do this from the dope sheet. Same window used to store and edit all your actions.

desert raven Feb 16, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Usually ppl might need a single frame from one of the vanilla anims to match transition between them which makes that a little easier

light pollen Feb 16, 2019, 4:51 PM

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don't suppose anyone has (or knows of someone who has) explored facial animation?

naive hemlock Feb 16, 2019, 5:39 PM

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i have rigged / weighted a head once

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it has been a pain

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have not made a facial anim myself though

desert raven Feb 16, 2019, 5:55 PM

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I've done some tinkering in that regard

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You can search this channel for that

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We have recreated facial rig for Blender floating around somewhere around here.

ruby hill Feb 16, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Biggest issue here is playing face anims. There's not exactly a switchmove equivalent. You can use setMimic and thats about it.

light pollen Feb 18, 2019, 10:42 AM

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In a surprise to nobody (even me), experiment is a bust. Having a weighted mesh in bone selections queers the exported matrices (somewhat predictably given BI only gave us Michelin Man). And if the mesh only exists in work selections then it doesn't animate with the bones. Blender it is then.

ruby hill Feb 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Yes, you cannot derive an rtm from a non-discretely weighted skeleton in O2. 😄

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The bone center caluclation that O2 does to "guess" the bindpose gets all screwed up

light pollen Feb 18, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Actually I'm now thinking it might not be such a deal-breaker as I have a work selection just for the weighted mesh which I can delete immediately prior to export (leaving only the 'bones').

desert raven Feb 18, 2019, 12:05 PM

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sounds quite complicated to produce simple animations

light pollen Feb 18, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Fully intend to learn the Blender workflow also (yesterday I was asking for a definition of 'weighting' so lots learnt either way). But a per-joint poseable version of the A3 mesh for quick tweaks and hand anims in OB feels like a good thing to have; https://imgur.com/a/LhoyoI1. Ditching the mesh before export is like <Click> [Delete]. https://nofile.io/f/cAoYRfxr4qs/ArmaMan.A3.Defunkt.v02.p3d

desert raven Feb 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/161228-armarig-for-blender/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

ArmaRig for Blender

A constrained Ik rig built in Blender.Aimed at A2/A3. Intended for use with Alwarrens Arma toolbox. Static and hand anims can be exported direct to PBO. Dynamic animations like walk/run cycles can be also be exported directly with some extra work. Im not an expert on the inte...

light pollen Feb 18, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Thanks, got that and the toolbox and the importer.

desert raven Feb 18, 2019, 12:57 PM

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I would argue that "quick tweaking" in OB is not as quick as doing it externally

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of course it might depend on what one is used to use

naive hemlock Feb 18, 2019, 1:20 PM

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there is nothing quick about object builder / oxygen

light pollen Feb 18, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Unless you're standing at the foot of the Blender learning curve. 😉

queen stump Feb 18, 2019, 1:23 PM

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@naive hemlock Don't hate 😛 You just didn't master it yet LULW

naive hemlock Feb 18, 2019, 3:47 PM

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@queen stump 😄 i wanna see you do a full reload animation in it, since you've master the inner workings of dis blyatiful software

zenith token Feb 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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whenever you do a full install you get to appreciate the blyatifulness of it in all its glory... UI efficiency 3%

queen stump Feb 18, 2019, 9:55 PM

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NO LULW

ripe lotus Feb 19, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Is there any source for vehicle model cfg that will go 0-1 and repeat ? (Constant loop)

digital steppe Feb 19, 2019, 1:19 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config

Model Config

ruby hill Feb 19, 2019, 2:41 PM

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ClockMinute for seamless movement, clockSecond for discrete steps.

slow inlet Feb 19, 2019, 4:33 PM

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So I made a gesture where it puts your hands up. However for people to be able to see the gesture I need to remotexec it on the mission. Is there a good way to handle that in the mod instead?

desert raven Feb 19, 2019, 4:36 PM

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I think thats just how you have to do it in MP

slow inlet Feb 19, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Ahh I see, cheers for the info

ruby hill Feb 19, 2019, 6:47 PM

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No

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Ah wait, no. BI broke the MP synch of playAction

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so yeh, you'll have to RExec it.

naive hemlock Feb 19, 2019, 6:48 PM

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gets his hope high each time he sees Mondkalb posting in the animation channel

ruby hill Feb 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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💩

naive hemlock Feb 19, 2019, 6:50 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lone cobalt Feb 22, 2019, 11:07 PM

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quick question

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the shoulder bones are not affected by a default stance for a weapon, right?

drowsy nymph Feb 22, 2019, 11:57 PM

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the weapon handanim?

lone cobalt Feb 23, 2019, 1:57 AM

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uh yes

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whatever its called idk

zenith token Feb 23, 2019, 2:14 AM

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stance -> prone, crouch, stand, anything inbetween. Yes stance affects shoulder bones.
weapon holding animation (handanim) doesnt

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unfortunately, because the default shoulder positions are awefull -> they change position for every stance, so that if the weapon is properly placed in the shoulder in standing, it will look off in low stand, high crouch etc. (clipping)

lone cobalt Feb 23, 2019, 2:51 AM

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I noticed that and expected this answer

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thank you tho

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finally going to try out kiorys rig

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Might want to hold off @lone cobalt I'll be releasing an update later today

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Less bone popping, much less

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 12:54 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/302527403098505216/547797245483810826/unknown.png

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I could use a bit less bone popping on my ragdolls xD

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Wtf is going on there?

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Ah custom rig?

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:03 PM

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yeah

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so far have had no luck setting up the ragdoll config

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as far as I know the bone/skeleton/selection setup, memorylod, pivotmodel setup, ragdoll and moveset config, are identical to ArmaMan except for the different shape of the character

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and few classname changes

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but the joints go wild when it ragdolls

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no errors/warnings anywhere and no documentation to go on about it. Except Mondkalbs BlockMan, but so far I have not been able to gleam any apparent differences with my setup

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I also dont think the ragdoll joints would still be using the ArmaMan points as they seem to blow way past the man ragdolls dimensions

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Wonder if it's as simple as missing an autocenter entry somewhere, probably not

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:24 PM

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hmm

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that would be the character or the pivots p3d

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pivots p3d as far as I know only contains memory lod

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and character is a copy of the sample character p3d

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tweaked to fit the new rig

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:30 PM

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I know it's weird, but I've seen autocenter placed in BI's mem lods as well, whether it's accidental, oversight, I don't know

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particularly character related stuff

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my only guess as to why this is happening though? It's probably defaulting to the old rig for ragdoll

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although, it's weird the arms are stretched but not the legs

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actually, if anything, it looks like the pivots for the joints are off

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so it's defaulting the pivots rather than the bones

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:33 PM

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yeah It might be some sort of config issue too. But since theres absolutely no documentation for ragdoll congif, I have no started messign with it at all yet

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for me it looks like the joints actually break

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:34 PM

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well we're made of hard stuff when it comes to config shit, I'm sure you'll find it eventually

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like they aren't actually connected?

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:34 PM

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yes

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but the mesh distortion hides that

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Do they like fall apart and start rolling around on the floor etc?

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:35 PM

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they dont move far but yeah it looks more like that

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I might be wrong about that too though

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:35 PM

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there must be a config for how the physics behave on the ragdoll then, even UE4 does this without a proper setup

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:36 PM

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oh yeah the ragdoll config is quite big package

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:36 PM

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where is it located?

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:37 PM

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class CfgRagDollSkeletons

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:37 PM

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which folder/file XD

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:37 PM

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ummmm not sure. I took mine from the AllConfig dump

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:38 PM

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I'll do a search with VSC

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it should find all the entries in all configs

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:45 PM

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was in data_f\config.cpp

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I do have some ideas what to poke at

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but swinging blind gets a bit frustrating at times

lone cobalt Feb 23, 2019, 1:46 PM

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@digital steppe alright, gonna put my animations on hold then

digital steppe Feb 23, 2019, 1:47 PM

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There are two entries, one of them has an idle animation applied to it

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{
    class BaseRagdoll;
    class Soldier: BaseRagdoll
    {
        idleAnim = "A3\anims_f\data\Anim\sdr\ragdoll_fingers.rtm";
    };
};```

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I doubt that is it, but it's something to look at

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The rest of it is setting up the physics and behaviour, so if you're extending from this, it should work

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that's assuming you've named everything exactly the same

desert raven Feb 23, 2019, 1:49 PM

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I've duplicated the soldier ragdoll class and renamed it

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so I have everything in it visible

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and tweak-able

lone cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@digital steppe about that update

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anything new

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?

digital steppe Feb 25, 2019, 3:37 PM

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I'm remaking it again

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if you need animations absolutely right now, the current version will work fine

lone cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 3:48 PM

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nah its not immediate

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i wish you the best of luck

digital steppe Feb 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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It's honestly me not being satisfied with how the CAT rig is positioned

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I'm also trying to make it IK/FK and MoCap friendly

lone cobalt Feb 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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perfectionism strikes back 😉

digital steppe Feb 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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no use half assing it

sinful dragon Feb 26, 2019, 9:04 PM

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When trying to run the bulldozer - I can not see any of the animations. Pressing enter only writes "anim" on the top left corner. Could I know just with that if the issue is in the p3d or in the model.cfg?

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:06 PM

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your model and model.cfg do not seem to connect

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so likely you have issue in modle.cfg

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like for example the name of the class for the model is not named the same as the .p3d

sinful dragon Feb 26, 2019, 9:07 PM

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which of the classes should be the same name? the one in class CfgSkeletons or CfgModels?

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:08 PM

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the one inside the cfgModels

sinful dragon Feb 26, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Thanks, will try that

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:08 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_How_to_animate_a_model

ArmA: How to animate a model

sinful dragon Feb 26, 2019, 9:08 PM

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does in need to be the full "name.p3d" or just "name" ?

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:09 PM

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name

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find chapter 4.4

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in the above document

sinful dragon Feb 26, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Thanks, will read througth all of it just incase

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:12 PM

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👌

dull warren Feb 26, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Am I correct in thinking that animation types (e.g. for reloading weapons) are limited to translations, rotations and hide/unhide? From the Wiki that seems to be the case but I was curious as to whether it is possible to scale as well.

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 9:37 PM

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yes there is no scaling animation in model.cfg as far as I know

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you would have to animate points with multiple bones to achieve scaling effect

drowsy nymph Feb 26, 2019, 9:59 PM

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You can sort of scale with a hide animation if you have the object weighed to multiple bones

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but it's more a case of exploiting a bug than an actual scale anim

desert raven Feb 26, 2019, 10:00 PM

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😄

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I tried to not to mention that

drowsy nymph Feb 26, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Yeah, it shouldn't really happen and it's not like it's useful since it only scaled relative to [0,0,0] instead of a user-defined coordinate

dull warren Feb 27, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Thanks. I was in the process of converting some of my weapons to use magazine proxies but discovered a major issue. The external width of a mag well on one rifle is exactly 26mm (assuming 1 Arma unit =1m) which is slightly too thin in reality but should still be thick enough to hide any 556 mag inside it. (I think the widest part of an ar15 mag well is 24.7mm)
Sadly, both BI and RHS proxy mags are wider than this so poke out the side of the mag well slightly.
I was trying to work a sneaky way where I could still use them...

deft fern Feb 27, 2019, 7:43 AM

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@dull warren both bi and RHS magazines will be changed

dull warren Feb 27, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Fantastic!

sinful dragon Feb 27, 2019, 2:29 PM

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My weapon model's holding animation is correct, but the handgun is not held between the 2 hands but instead is inside the right hand's fingers

queen stump Feb 27, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Well, that's correct? But I'm not sure, if I understand correctly.

sinful dragon Feb 27, 2019, 2:40 PM

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the pistol grip is inside the right hand, inside the skin, bone etc, instead of being between the right and left hands

queen stump Feb 27, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Then offset the weapon bone in anim or weapon itself

sinful dragon Feb 27, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Not really sure how to do that - I copied the animation code from Arma 3 Samples and didn't change much other than the paths to things

queen stump Feb 27, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Open the pistol model and move it around in model space

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If you are using vanilla animations and not your own

sinful dragon Feb 27, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Ok gotcha, just wasn't sure if I needed to fix that in the model or somewhere in the code! Using vanilla animations btw

ripe lotus Feb 27, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Speed of anims with vanilla sources can't be adjusted, correct?

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I just found out they can. Damn

desert raven Feb 27, 2019, 9:31 PM

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👍

ripe lotus Feb 27, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Sorry

ripe lotus Feb 27, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Although no I dont think I found a way, tried with AnimationSources

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and since animPeriod works only with user sources then Idk

desert raven Feb 27, 2019, 9:54 PM

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you can overwrite a engine source and alter its parameters

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theres how-to in the model.cfg wikipage

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cant quarantee it works though

ripe lotus Feb 27, 2019, 9:58 PM

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But I wanted to have different speeds for two anims using same source so that might be tricky

desert raven Feb 27, 2019, 10:19 PM

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that might not be possible

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what are you exactly trying to do

ripe lotus Feb 27, 2019, 10:58 PM

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The flaps anim in F18, minor detail but outer flaps move faster in real jet

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Kinda did it just by setting minValue to 0.2 and maxValue to 0.8

zenith token Feb 27, 2019, 11:00 PM

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you can animate the same bone twice btw... overlaying multiple animations on the same bone can give some nonlinearity. Its not particularly efficient...

desert raven Feb 27, 2019, 11:07 PM

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min and maxValues would be good way to do it

tardy hound Mar 2, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Is it possible to do a delay in model.cfg animation for something like a door? I'm trying to create an elevator door where the second piece doesnt start to close until the first piece is mostly inside it already.

desert raven Mar 2, 2019, 8:51 PM

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1st piece minvalue = 0 maxvalue = 1, 2nd pieces minvalue = 0.5 maxvalue = 1

tardy hound Mar 2, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Thanks!

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 10:23 PM

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I have a reload animation - this is how it is supposed to go:
"exctractor" goes out, "bullets" still in, after a bit they disapear. After another bit "bullets" re-appear and "extractor" goes back in.

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              class bulletsOut
            {
                type = "hide";
                source = "reload";
                selection = "bullets";
                minValue = 0.8;
                maxValue = 1;
                hideValue = 0.9;
            };
              class bulletsIn : bulletsOut
            {
                minValue = 0.35;
                maxValue = 0.8;
                unHideValue = 0.9;
            };
            class cylinderOut
            {
                type = "rotation";
                source = "reload";
                selection = "extractor";
                axis = "extractor_axis";
                minValue = 0.9;
                maxValue = 1;
                angle0 = rad 0;
                angle1 = rad 110;
            };
            class cylinderIn : cylinderOut
            {
                minValue = 0;
                maxValue = 0.2 ;
                angle0 = rad 0;
                angle1 = - rad 110;
            };```

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but there is 1 problem - bullets are out from the first frame.
Everything else works as intended

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Any idea what could be causing it? I tried giving the "bulletsOut"'s min and maxValues different values, but to no vane

desert raven Mar 3, 2019, 10:30 PM

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possibly the bullets area part of another animating selection

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Nope, only this animation in the code so far

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or do you mean something else by that?

desert raven Mar 3, 2019, 10:41 PM

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you have multiple bones yes?

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does the bullet belong to any other bone selection

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 10:41 PM

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yes

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"trigger","",
"extractor","",
"cylinder","extractor",
"bullets","cylinder",
"hammer",""

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yes, cylinder

desert raven Mar 3, 2019, 10:42 PM

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so in OB teh bullet is part of "bullet" and "cylinder" selections?

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if so that would be the problem

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 10:42 PM

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not in OB, they are separete

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I can select "cylinder" in the selection and drag it wihtout the bullets moving, and wise wersa

zenith token Mar 3, 2019, 10:45 PM

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would it be possible to limit FFV to one axis and have regular turretmovement on the other?Say the FFV axis is vertical, and turret is horizontal.
It would enable AI to use small windows in buildings by occupying an invisible turret with that property. Up and down they move their upper body, left right their entire body is moved around an axis that is close to the wall (as opposed to their body center), like in case of a bipod

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:13 PM

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@sinful dragon what the hell are those radians in hideValue

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:14 PM

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@deft fern ehh I noticed that too after posting, just a copy-paste issue )

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removing them didn't solve the issue througth

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

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HideValue range is 0 - 1

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Where 0 = minValue & 1 = maxvalue

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Not sure what that means
does it mean that I can only use values 1 and 0 in hideValue, and nothign in-between?

desert raven Mar 3, 2019, 11:18 PM

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sure in betweem but not over

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rad 0.9 does not give you desired results though xD

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:20 PM

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indeed, and I tried switching around those numbers a couple of times - with no good effects

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:20 PM

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If you minValue = 5 & maxvalue = 10 then I. E. HideValue = 0.5 means that selection will be hidden when source value is at 7.5

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Ok, I understood that so far

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But shouldnt that mean then that
minValue = 0.8;
maxValue = 0.801;
hideValue = 1;
gets the "bullets" hidden at 0.8? Because in my case - they are hidden at 1.0, even througth my values are set to that right now

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:24 PM

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No it will be hidden at 0.801

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:27 PM

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meant that, but still - the bullets are hidden when they shouldn't be. I will try a solution I just came up with, but most likely it wont work

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Also, having hide and unhide at same value doesn't make sense

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(bulletsin )

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:30 PM

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doesn't the value in hideValue and unHideValue get affected by the min and max vallues?

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

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?

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:32 PM

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not sure what you mean that same value for hide/unHideValue make no sence

deft fern Mar 3, 2019, 11:33 PM

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You have same values for hide and unhide in bulletsin class

sinful dragon Mar 3, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Ok I think I got what you meant, will try ajusting and see if it works

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            class bulletsIn
            {
                type = "hide";
                source = "reload";
                selection = "bullets";
                minValue = 0.3;
                maxValue = 0.4;
                hideValue = 0.5;
            };
            class bulletsOut : bulletsIn
            {
                minValue = 0.7;
                maxValue = 0.8;
                unHideValue = 1;
            };```

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tried this, but still same issue

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"bullets" doesn't unHide at any point after it gets hiden at 0.35

desert raven Mar 3, 2019, 11:57 PM

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why dont you just do 1 hide animation wiht minValue 0 maxValue 1 and hideValue 0.35 and unhideValue 0.75?

sinful dragon Mar 4, 2019, 12:00 AM

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I didn't know I could have mutliple parameters in 1 class, will try taht out!
edit - it's late, going to sleep will come back at you if it worked !

deft fern Mar 4, 2019, 7:43 AM

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@sinful dragon also don't forget that reload is going from 1 to 0

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 2:58 PM

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            {
                type = "hide";
                source = "reload";
                selection = "bullets";
                minValue = 0;
                maxValue = 1;
                hideValue = 0.4;
                unHideValue = 0.8;
            };```

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@desert raven finally came around to trying that - but to no effect

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the bullets still don't get unHiden at 0.8, or at all after 0.4

drowsy nymph Mar 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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ingame, or in buldozer?

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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bulldozer so far

drowsy nymph Mar 5, 2019, 3:04 PM

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because as reyhard said above, ingame the reload source runs 1 to 0, so you have to play it backwards in Buldozer

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Yeah I knew that, I go over to the end (1) and scroll back to 0

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bullets are hidden all the way down to 0.4, but I wanted them to be unHiden from 1 to 0.8 and then again unhiden from 0.4 to 0

deft fern Mar 5, 2019, 3:07 PM

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can you paste whole model.cfG?

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 3:08 PM

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1 sec

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" Your message could not be delivered because you don't share a server with the recipient or you disabled direct messages on your shared server, recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends, or you were blocked by the recipient. "

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thanks discord, I'll upload it to pasteBin or smth

deft fern Mar 5, 2019, 3:09 PM

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yeah, pastebin is fine

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 3:10 PM

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https://pastebin.com/wXp3FZXC

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the "reload" didn't work even before adding all the other animations, I just did those while ignoring reload for a couple days. Also it's only the bullets part, rest of "reload" works as intended

deft fern Mar 5, 2019, 3:15 PM

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so you want to hide bullets between 0.4 - 0.8, right?

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Yes

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when cylinder goes out - bullets gets removed, and added back right before cylinder goes back in

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:08 PM

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What about this - could the issue be that I am using Oxygen 2 (ArmA 2), while in the biki it says "unHideValue (A3 only)" ?

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:08 PM

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@sinful dragon you have installed arma 3 tools and run the Object BuildeR?

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Yes

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:08 PM

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thats not Oxygen 2

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I know, I preffer Oxygen 2, I will try opening up the model in the Arma Tools one instead

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:09 PM

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dafug

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do you have the old tools installed too?

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Yes, separetly

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:10 PM

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dont

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Why not? Does it fuck with some settings/configurations etc?

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Also unHide still doesn't work OB from Arma Tools, so has to be something else

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:13 PM

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ok so right now I have no idea if you have your tools set up correctly at all

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so debug is pretty much obsolete

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and yes the old tools should not be installed at the same time

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and they definitely should not be used for Arma3

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I don't have the old tools installed, only oxygen 2. I used Arma 3 Tools before downloading oxygen 2, so it should be installed correctly, I haven't ran in too any other problems so far

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Ok gotcha, will double check if it is all installed correctly

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:15 PM

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There is 0 reason ot use O2

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Object Builder is pretty much the same with likely few fixed things

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and its possibly you are not running the right engine as buldozer

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:17 PM

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For some reason OB doesn't "save" my layout, every time I open it I have to manually re-open every tab and window and reposition them all again aswell which gets annoying when I open and close it fairly often

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:17 PM

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well you dont have your tools set up right then

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

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start here

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Yeah, I'll check if my tools are installed correctly now just in case, even througth I haven't had issues with other "arma 3 exclusive" functions before

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I followed this https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/190353-howto-work-drive-setup-bulldozer/ when installing tools last time, is that one incorrect or a copy post?

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 4:20 PM

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yeah thats not right

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it is how its supposed to work

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but using the Arma Tools Launcher causes more trouble than good

#

so quite possibly why yout layout does not save is because you run it from the launcher

sinful dragon Mar 5, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Well shit, I guess I'll have to do the PMC one, and link it to everybody else who for some reason asked me "how 2 install tools fast?"

lone cobalt Mar 5, 2019, 8:09 PM

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question:
im sitting on some mg animations atm and Im struggling like probably so many before me with the left hand clipping through the ammunitionbox. My goto solution is to grab the mg at the ammunitionbox, but im playing around with the idea holding the entire mg at stomach height. How many things need to be considered if I want to have a weapon be hold at stomach height?

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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a lot

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also it will not work in prone if its at hip

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446446342131417088/528298739576602624/unknown.png

#

I've done one like this

lone cobalt Mar 5, 2019, 8:25 PM

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is it possible to have handanims only for the prone stance?

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next to the default handanims I mean

desert raven Mar 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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No

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1 handanim /weapon

#

If you made a custom move set fot hip fire weapons you could possibly alter prone stance for it

#

But that is quite unknown waters.

#

And a lot of work

ruby hill Mar 6, 2019, 9:40 AM

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And not easily trackable. The solution here would be weapon specific action maps that automatically trigger.

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I've made a prototype set of animations for MGs held at hips, and it requires a massive amount of scripted tracking to ensure the character stays in that stance, as there quite a lot of cases that will "snap out" the character from using that set of animations.

lone cobalt Mar 6, 2019, 2:06 PM

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I guess I gonna stick with grabbing ammunition boxes then 💁

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:26 PM

#

Got my P drive re-installed and animations done (I just went with another animation), but now I have this ingame :

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https://imgur.com/a/zKQIuyt

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while both OB and Bulldozer look normal https://imgur.com/a/DEI7Aeu

#

any idea what is causing it & how to fix it?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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you mean the offset?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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The cylinder being on top of the gun

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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your animations are not set up right

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likely

#

something is moving the cylinder on top

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Guessed so, but what is it that is doing that?
& should I post my model.cfg ?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:30 PM

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is there any animation that moves the cylinder to that position?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:30 PM

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shouldnt be

#

all animations are rotations

#

            class cylinderRot
            {
                type = "rotation";
                source = "fire";
                selection = "cylinder";
                axis = "cylinder_axis";
                minValue = 0.5;
                maxValue = 1;
                angle0 = 0;
                angle1 = - rad 60;
            };```
for rotating 60 degrees when firing

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:31 PM

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did you test all animations in buldozer?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:31 PM

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yes

#

they all work correctly in bulldozer

#

I also noticed then I was trying to fix it by renaming the source to something else - the cylinder wasn't right above the python anymore, but still not where it was supposed to be

drowsy nymph Mar 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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does the weapon model's geometry LOD have autocenter 0?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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No idea what that means, do you mean the LOD called 0.000 ?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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no

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geometrly lod

#

good call @drowsy nymph

#

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Named_Properties

Arma 3 Named Properties

#

is better btw

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Thx, will check that out

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

also this

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD

LOD

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

but first - am I supposed to have autocenter 0? or disable it?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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autocenter 0

drowsy nymph Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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you're supposed to have it on weapons

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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compare to the sample rifle

drowsy nymph Mar 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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and gear items

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but not vehicles

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Ok, will try that out now. and I basicly copied the code from sample rifle so idk why I didn't have autocenter there /

drowsy nymph Mar 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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it's in the model itself, not the config

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you can only copy named properties in to another model by physically pasting geometry from one .p3d to another

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:36 PM

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📎 unknown.png

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Since I haven't done any other propertynames - are there any other super required ones like this one?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:38 PM

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not for weapons

#

each sample has the commonly required ones for the type of object

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Ok, will keep that in mind

fossil sun Mar 6, 2019, 9:51 PM

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How can I get custom animations into arma? Is there a mod or addon of lots of animations for civillian tasks?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Static or moving animations @fossil sun ?

fossil sun Mar 6, 2019, 9:52 PM

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moving

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to go with voice acting

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

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character animations?

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

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No mods for that, but there are scripts I believe

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 9:53 PM

#

do you mean like how to make new animations?

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or how to use animations in game?

#

and no, there are no animation packs

#

animations are quite time consuming to make and get into Arma

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:55 PM

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@fossil sun https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/switchMove
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Moves

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these are your best bet at something "easy"

#

Also most fancy mods add their own animations to list, but you'd have to find them manually, and probably none of them are for "Civilian voice acting"

fossil sun Mar 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Well I jsut need civillian things like. animations for working and animations for speaking and just normal things we do day today. Answer a cell phone and stuff.

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 9:59 PM

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My 2 links is the best you gonna go without spending >ALOT< of hours on creating animations yourself. You can also view those animations ingame in the animation viewer, saves some time

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 10:01 PM

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yeah there are no such animations as far as I know

fossil sun Mar 6, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Ah, oh welll.

#

If i got a bunch of 3d Max/Blender/Maya animations how easy could it be to import it into arma?

desert raven Mar 6, 2019, 10:06 PM

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not easy

#

you would have to figure a way to project them onto the Arma skeleton

#

and then export that out into Arma animation format .RTM

#

and then build configs for each animation

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 10:11 PM

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(akward having having a channel for animations with disabled image imbeding imo)

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https://imgur.com/a/Etq8zZS

#

so new issue, my "reload" animation plays when I fire, I guess thats an easy fix - I just put the "fire" source to be "reload" instead

hasty anvil Mar 6, 2019, 10:11 PM

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🤔

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 10:12 PM

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but what do I name the old "reload" source for it to animate on reload of weapon?

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found it I think, I guess it's "reloadMagazine" based on BIKI/Model_Config

#

is there any description somewhere on what each individual source= does?

drowsy nymph Mar 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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The middle column on the biki page describes what the sources do

sinful dragon Mar 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Thanks,somehow didn't realize that fore some reason until now

hazy plaza Mar 7, 2019, 3:55 PM

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After the Arma 3 update, which appeared a few days ago. All my Custom Animations are broke can someone help me ?

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For Example all Driver sit on the hood etc.

#

at version 1.88 all animations work

desert raven Mar 7, 2019, 6:04 PM

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odd, never heard such happening

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do they still use the correct animation?

#

how many animations are affected?

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have you repacked them?

hazy plaza Mar 7, 2019, 10:05 PM

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my arma is the problem after the update dont work any animations :C

regal dawn Mar 8, 2019, 12:34 PM

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what about vehicle wheelbase realistic demage animations in game?who have mod or something like this?

naive hemlock Mar 8, 2019, 12:40 PM

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no idea what you are talking about

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besides this is not the place to ask for mods or find me a mod sort of questions

desert raven Mar 8, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@regal dawn unless you explain what you are after we can't help you.

regal dawn Mar 9, 2019, 9:34 AM

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i mean more nice animation for game ,demage system with more nice animations

naive hemlock Mar 9, 2019, 10:11 AM

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lol

desert raven Mar 9, 2019, 12:43 PM

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@regal dawn thing like that can't really be modded.

ripe lotus Mar 10, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Trying to animate wheel, with simple rotationX it will rotate ok, but also scale itself, why?

drowsy nymph Mar 10, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Bone is probably sharing verts with other selections

ripe lotus Mar 10, 2019, 7:35 PM

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You are correct, thank you

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Hello, guys, does enableBinocular = class even works?

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i have managed to make gesture not stopping from using rifle optics with the enableOptics = 1; parameter, but enableBinocular = 1; and enableMissile = 1; cant do the same

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Ha ha, you know what? Ive got it to work with -1

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This makes no sense

sterile ice Mar 13, 2019, 12:32 PM

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Lol

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There are alot of settings for animations which are not working properly, or I'm too dumb.
Gotta try setting these values to - 1 to see if it works 🙃

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Comrades, have anyone got the idea how i can estimate weapon reload animation time?

drowsy nymph Mar 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

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why estimate it when it's in the config?

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 6:43 PM

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where?

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afaik there is only the reload animation name and its speed

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magazinereloadtime is only for launchers

drowsy nymph Mar 13, 2019, 6:48 PM

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no it's not

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defined in the gesture speed IIRC. Time = 1/speed

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.rtm and model.cfg both run 0 to 1

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 6:56 PM

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hmm

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Thank you! It works for most of non rhs weapons

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rhs reloading lasts exactly like the speed parameter in seconds

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and the srifle_GM6_F have 0 speed)

desert raven Mar 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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out of curiosity, why does the reload time matter?

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 7:16 PM

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im making workaround reloadstart handler

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i though i had already, but suddenly reload speed method of rhs is completely different

drowsy nymph Mar 13, 2019, 7:30 PM

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my advise would be not to bother with workarounds @harsh jacinth

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/140837-development-branch-changelog/?do=findComment&comment=3343690 Added: Muzzle event handlers for reloading weapons (reload - start, reloaded - finished)

harsh jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Yep i heard about that

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but our community already uses the kola's cool radio animation mod

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and i build some serous mess for it)

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for some unfourtunate reason i have tested only on guns with rhs reload time method

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 10:28 AM

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I'm in the process off trying to convert some of my mods over to using magazine proxies. I'm running into two issues and can't seem to make progress despite going through the biki info etc.
The first issue is that I don't seem to be able to get the magazine to move/animate on reloading. I assumed that I'd just need to add the magazine proxy to my skeletonBones list and either make it a child of the old magazine (which already has animations setup) or add new animations for the magazine proxy. However neither of these seem to work making me wonder if I'm not naming the proxy correctly in the model.cfg file. (I'm using A3\Data_f\proxies\weapon_slots\MAGAZINESLOT.p3d as the proxy that I've inserted in my weapon and am referencing this as 'MAGAZINESLOT' in my model.cfg)

The second issue I suspect I can't fix and my only hope is that BI make further tweaks to their 5.56x45 stanag models as we've already discussed the fact that scaling is not possible during animations.
BI and RHS have both now changed their 5.56x45 magazine to be the correct width (THANK YOU, guys!) so they don't poke through my magwells anymore. However, BI's stanag magazine looks to be significantly too long so can be see where the bolt necks down: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383593050900791297/556139434710401038/unknown.png

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I've already positioned the magazine proxy about 2-3mm too low so don't really want to lower it further...
If anyone has any help/suggestions for these two problems, I'd be most grateful!

drowsy nymph Mar 16, 2019, 10:37 AM

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You shouldn’t need to make a new bone or anim for the mag to move. Just name the proxy what ever the mag bone was before you changed it to a proxy

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 10:45 AM

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I had noticed the example in the wiki was just called 'magazine' but when I attempt to re-name the proxy in Object Builder, it wants to change the name of the file/proxy it points to. (I.e. the whole A3\Data_f....)

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But I'm just giving that a go now

queen stump Mar 16, 2019, 10:58 AM

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Don't change path to proxy, just select the proxy in viewport and then in selection list right click and create new selection

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Ah - thanks, I'll try that (as re-naming the proxy did not work as expected/predicted!)

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:21 AM

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Brilliant! That's fixed problem no.1. Many thanks. Do we think the chances of BI tweaking their model again are close to zero? (I.e. do I still need to find a solution for issue 2?) For info, I'm fairly sure all my dimensions are pretty accurate and this does tie up with RHS's mag position/dimensions as well. So other mod makers may have a similar issue at some point.

queen stump Mar 16, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@deft fern 👀 ?

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:29 AM

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well, they have correct length according to factory drawings

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so I guess magazine proxy is too deep in your weapon? @dull warren

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Probably easiest to ping you a DM with an image if that's OK?

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:32 AM

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well, you have sent same image as here so I think there is no point in DMing it 😉

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Ah - I thought you'd not seen that. Sorry!

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:32 AM

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just experiment with mag proxy position till it fits

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:33 AM

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The mag will sit far too low in order to do that so I'm very keen not to!

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For reference, this is with RHS's PMAG with the proxy about 3mm higher than the image I previously posted: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383593050900791297/556139166124212246/unknown.png

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So this proxy position looks to be pretty much spot on

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:35 AM

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pmag doesn't have correct size yet

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it's old model

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only USGI & magpull magazines were adjusted

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https://s2.desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/k/image/1358/28/1358284114356.jpg

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http://www.biggerhammer.net/ar15/cad/

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:37 AM

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Yeah - my magwell dimensions is from that second link. I'll just check my original mag against that first link (very handy - thanks!)

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For info, the lower edge of my original mag overlays the bottom edge of the BI one with the proxy in that position. But I'd be delighted to discover my mag being too short and lower the proxy - especially if there's a chance RHS will update their mag models in time....😉

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So my original mag is actually 3mm longer/deeper than that CAD drawing

drowsy nymph Mar 16, 2019, 11:44 AM

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@deft fern BIS mag could be placed a little high. I know when we introduced Pufu's new STANAG mag to RHS, it was the correct length but aligned such that the top of the mag was where the feed lips on the original oversized mag was. This made it sit too high. I lowered the whole magazine model a bit so now the cutout detent lines up with the mag-release latch on our M4/M16s and the feed lips don't go as far beyond the base of the bolt-carrier

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:46 AM

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bis mag is selected

📎 unknown.png

drowsy nymph Mar 16, 2019, 11:47 AM

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That Pufu's new one? I thought it had more bullets and the follower?

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 11:48 AM

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ah, might be the old one then

drowsy nymph Mar 16, 2019, 11:49 AM

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yeah, I open the old one by accident a lot because they're named the same save for a n somewhere to indicate it's the new one 😄

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Something doesn't tie up somewhere - assuming 1 ARMA3 unit is 1m. This image is with the BI mag (white arrows) and my original mag (yellow arrow):https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383593050900791297/556445953347944458/unknown.png

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As you can see, they line up almost perfectly with the BI mag sitting may be 1mm lower than my mag

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My mag is about 3mm too deep when compared to the CAD drawing and the feed lips sit just below the bolt carrier. So this suggests the BI mag is about 10-15mm longer than my mag/the CAD drawing

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😕

deft fern Mar 16, 2019, 12:02 PM

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alright, I'm try resize it then

dull warren Mar 16, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Thank you!!!

naive hemlock Mar 16, 2019, 1:16 PM

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@drowsy nymph ideally should have just replaced the old one, which i obviously didn't

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😄

drowsy nymph Mar 16, 2019, 1:24 PM

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well keeping the textures and mats for the old one is necessary at least. For now

fossil sun Mar 16, 2019, 9:17 PM

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What sort of animation can I do with scripting? I learning SQF and I was wondering what can I do with just the scripting? Am I just stuck with all the animations in the editor? I have downloaded quite a few mods but I can't seem to find some more less military more civilian type animations, how hard is it to import custom animations? I haven't done 3D stuff in 10 yeas but I only really learnt the basics , would that be enough?

desert raven Mar 16, 2019, 9:21 PM

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no that would unfortunately not be enough

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you cant do any new animations with scripting

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only run existing ones

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and character animations could be said to be advanced level stuff

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animations have to be basically made from scratch as they need to be made with the same skeleton the Arma man uses

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so using animations from other sources can be difficult

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on top of that there is the animation config work that can be simple for simple animations but if you want to do something more advaced like animations sequences that properly blend together it will get more difficult

crisp berry Mar 17, 2019, 4:49 AM

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@fossil sun what exactly are you after?

vivid onyx Mar 17, 2019, 2:33 PM

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hi guys. is it possible to make an hide animation that will hide on a range of values? for example, can I make it hide when value is lower than 0.33 AND value is higher than 0.66 ?

desert raven Mar 17, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I think that would need 2 animations

vivid onyx Mar 17, 2019, 2:47 PM

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yeah thats what I thought. I see the vanilla slammer tank dont have 3 stages of damage on its monitors

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I wanted to add green, orange and red damage levels on my monitor

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green and orange are working as expected. guess I can just put the red on top of the orange one instead

desert raven Mar 17, 2019, 3:15 PM

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you can have have 3 animations from with hide and unhide values 0.0/0.3 0.3/0.7 0.7/1.0

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hmm actually yeah that does not quite work xD

drowsy nymph Mar 17, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Why the 0.3/0.7 anim?

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should only need 2 anims both with min/maxValue 0/1 and appropriate hide and unhide values

desert raven Mar 17, 2019, 3:31 PM

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yeah after I sent that I realized it was not right

zenith token Mar 17, 2019, 5:16 PM

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you can also rotate instead of hiding... depends on use case what is better

desert raven Mar 17, 2019, 5:32 PM

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uu thats true

toxic tendon Mar 17, 2019, 8:38 PM

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someone should make a ceramonial footdrill / rifledrill pose pack 😉

fossil sun Mar 17, 2019, 9:54 PM

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@crisp berry I was just trying to make a little film sequence and iI was looking for some more civilian style animations.

frozen fable Mar 22, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Any way to unbin rtm files?

desert raven Mar 22, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Mikeros subscriber tools

frozen fable Mar 22, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Which one specifically?

desert raven Mar 22, 2019, 6:00 PM

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deRTM

frozen fable Mar 22, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Thanks, appreciate it

formal merlin Mar 25, 2019, 4:03 PM

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who knows how to correctly calculate the speed if there are animations of different lengths, for example -> there are 90 cars and there are 220, and there are 650 and so on

class GestureReloadM24: GestureReloadAnfield{speed = 0.26;file = "\slm\anims\rtm\reload\GestureReloadStandM24.rtm";};
class GestureReloadProneM24: GestureReloadM24{mask="ReloadMask";file = "\slm\anims\rtm\reload\GestureReloadProneM24.rtm";};

naive hemlock Mar 25, 2019, 4:49 PM

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what?

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 4:52 PM

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cars = frames. And how I explained to him in DM that how I see Speed variable working is speed * rtm frame count = fps it plays

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so for an animation that has 90 frames for example you would set speed to 0.333333 to get approximate 30fps playback

naive hemlock Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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i didn't get cars = frames thing

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 4:53 PM

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90 cars

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cars being translation error

naive hemlock Mar 25, 2019, 4:54 PM

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never heard car = frame before, but whatever

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 4:56 PM

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a mishap ¯_(ツ)_/¯

zenith token Mar 25, 2019, 4:56 PM

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gopnik translator perhaps?

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i remember cooking recipes translated via google or some other in ~2000 or so... utter train wreck 😄

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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What rig do you blender users primarily use to animate with?

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Macsers

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I dont even thing theres any other released

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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I found 3 so far

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Links?

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

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macsers is one, http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=23432 this is two. Third was send to me by a friend

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Macsers is the most advanced unless your friend has made some wizardry of his own

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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No his one is shit

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that's why im asking

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xd

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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shit how?

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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As in i'm pretty sure it doesn't even work

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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ah

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so you just dont know how to use it 😛

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it is also possible you have some older version

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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_>

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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but I can assure it works

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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oh

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no im not talking about macsers one

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I'm talking about my friends one

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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ah

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that I can understand

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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I used macsers one before and like it but i was just checking if anything new and potentionally better got released in the meantime

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 5:52 PM

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no I think its become pretty much default to use since its readily set up

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SNlcS_v_A this for example is made with it

YouTube

Lost Dragons

Lost Dragons Arma 3 Mod - WK-209 Improved entry animation.

Improved entry animation for WK-209 gunner position. This version is good enough for testing it out in game to see how it works there and what needs to be im...

▶ Play video

frozen fable Mar 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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That legit does not even look like arma anymore

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(Which is a good thing)

zenith token Mar 25, 2019, 6:01 PM

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maybe because its rendered in blender? 😛

desert raven Mar 25, 2019, 6:05 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLwdxdi7B30

YouTube

Lost Dragons

Lost Dragons Arma 3 Mod - WK-209 Improved entry animation In Game

Aaand ACTION! This time presenting you with a view on how the climb in animation looks in game! Seems that the "get in/out" animations dont play as smoothly ...

▶ Play video

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indeed. it does look more like Arma in game

naive hemlock Mar 25, 2019, 7:17 PM

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really nais

clear prism Mar 26, 2019, 12:49 AM

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thats sick

frozen fable Mar 26, 2019, 9:29 AM

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What is a reliable way to position your character relative to the vehicle you want to animate him for? (For example position him in the driverseat) Currently i'm just doing it in a trial and error way.

desert raven Mar 26, 2019, 10:48 AM

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The origin of the model will be the origin of the proxy position. So it can be easier to first drag the whole armature in side the vehicle and then pose him

naive hemlock Mar 26, 2019, 12:37 PM

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or drag the vehicle around the rig (or whatever, armature or whatever blender calls it)

desert raven Mar 26, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Oh true that's an option too :D

lone cobalt Mar 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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about reload animations: how do you make the trigger finger point forwards? Since there are no keyframe informations of the hand that leads the weapon

desert raven Mar 26, 2019, 10:03 PM

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trigger finger is controlled by weapons trigger animation as far as I know

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which activates when you fire

lone cobalt Mar 27, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Does that also control the finger within the reload animation? I observed that many other mods also have the issue with their reload animations, that the finger is on the trigger while vanilla animations somehow overcame this issue, this would be likely my last polish to my animations

desert raven Mar 27, 2019, 3:22 PM

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It is possible it's set in the reload animations config

lone cobalt Mar 27, 2019, 5:22 PM

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how if I may ask?

desert raven Mar 27, 2019, 5:24 PM

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no idea, was just thinking its a possibility

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you could compare to vanillar reloads if there is something different

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also it is possible the finger is actaully animated in the reload animation

proper mist Mar 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Hi, i have ha problem with sound on a animated object. Its a permanetly spinning fan and i want to add sound on it. model.cfg:
class Animations
{
class spinn
{
type="rotation";
source="time";
memory=1;
selection="rotor";
axis="spinnAxis";
animPeriod=5;
minPhase=0;
maxPhase=1;
minValue="0.0";
maxValue="1.0";
sourceAddress="loop";
angle0="0";
angle1="360";
};
};
config.cpp
class AnimationSources
{
class time
{
source = "user";
sound = "huge_fan_02";
SoundPosition = "spinnAxis";
};
};

whats the default for AnimationSources class time or how do i inherited it right ?

desert raven Mar 27, 2019, 9:56 PM

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you want to create a custom source class. like FanSource, and instead of user, have its source as "time"

slim wedge Mar 29, 2019, 11:44 AM

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Does anyone knows how I can get custom effects ingame ? I want to do a sort of plasma bullet effect with custom effect for ground impact with particles. But I can't find any tutorial for this

desert raven Mar 29, 2019, 11:53 AM

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There are now tutorials for that kind of things. You would have to study how impact effects are configured for ammo, then study how those effects are build in the effects configs and then create your own

crisp berry Mar 29, 2019, 5:15 PM

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@slim wedge may get you started: https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/221163-emitter-3ditor/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Emitter 3Ditor

Eden WYSIWYG emitter editor Use particle and light emitters in your scenarios without any scripting. Adds an emitter editor akin to the old utility mission editor that has floated around since the original OFP and the Eden way of adding emitters via object attributes. Does NO...

snow seal Apr 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I'm having some trouble implementing reload animations. The animation itself plays fine, but when it ends, character goes into a somewhat awkward pose then shifts into the handanim. I want to eliminate this strange behavior. Also, what is the proper method for making prone variants of reload animations so that your character's torso does not lift up off the ground?

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Here is the issue in video form: https://gfycat.com/PhysicalIndelibleBengaltiger

chrome perch Apr 1, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Hey can someone help me understand the animation configs a bit more? I am trying to create animation config entries which are just used to switch to other random defined animations. However the unit stays at the first animation and does not switch to another one.

here is the config
https://github.com/diwako/ACE3/blob/unconscious_anims/addons/medical_engine/CfgMoves.hpp

Mainly talking about the GVAR(face***) animation entries. startin at line 81

small badge Apr 3, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Is there a way to animate a pistol slide firing on the last round? I have a gun here that does not lock the slide back on the last round. I tried having anims on the isempty but it doesn't seem to animate it in-game. it looks like the anim phase ingame goes from 0 to 1 instantly and it doesn't slowly transition.

drowsy nymph Apr 3, 2019, 9:28 PM

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There is isEmptyNoReload too

small badge Apr 3, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I replaced the isEmpty source with isEmptyNoReload and sadly it remains the same, I looked at the other guns in the game and it looks like the bolt doesn't reciprocate on the last round

drowsy nymph Apr 3, 2019, 10:46 PM

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But I think you won’t get it to be non-instantaneous since a mag is either empty or not so it’s a binary 0 or 1 state

snow seal Apr 4, 2019, 12:31 AM

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yeah afaik isempty and isemptynoreload are meant to be used in conjunction with reload and reloadmagazine

cyan glen Apr 12, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Anyone know if any mad man have mad a custom animation for when you dont use your rifle (so not on the back like it is right now)? Or is "Tactical Weapon Swap" the only one?

desert raven Apr 18, 2019, 11:33 AM

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@deft fern you happen to know if zeroing animation source for weapons is not synced in MP?

lone cobalt Apr 22, 2019, 4:29 PM

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heyho Ive got a problem with the fingers of the right hand not moving in a reload animation. Is there something that needs to be activated in order for the fingers to move? the left hands fingers are doing just fine

sharp beacon Apr 22, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Hi all, im having problems with my custom weapon reload animation, it's related to IK curves as my reload anim in 3ds max doesnt appear the same in game. Can someone explain arma IKCurves and the best way implementing them?

lone cobalt Apr 22, 2019, 6:03 PM

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how different are they?

sharp beacon Apr 23, 2019, 1:45 AM

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@lone cobalt i'm pretty sure that my custom animation is playing just that the blending with the hand anim makes it look wonky, i.e hands not in the correct place when pulling the charging handle and jerking at the start and ends of the anim

lone cobalt Apr 23, 2019, 9:06 AM

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can you show a recording?

sharp beacon Apr 23, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Sure thing, will do so when I get home

sharp beacon Apr 23, 2019, 12:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4dVvdfijk0&feature=youtu.be

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Here's the recording of the animations

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 2:58 PM

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your animation playback speed may be set as faster

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and the IK blend curve might not be optimal

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whats the framerate your animations is exported with?

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I'm discovering crew animations and planning on upgrading all IFA3 crew anims that are still not custom

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I have a question regarding cargo anims

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is it possible, via any mean, to force the camera to look in the direction of the head ?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385885667751755796/569675810064171009/unknown.png

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Like lock the free look?

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:34 PM

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reason being on those anims, laid down cargo units are watching horizontally inside themselves

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not necessarly lock it but at least not have the camera facing front but sky

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:34 PM

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does your animation rig have the camera bone?

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:34 PM

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or side

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the skeleton itself ?

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:35 PM

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yes

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:36 PM

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let me look for the list

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i'm using the blender one from alwarren I think it is

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327499008660733962/570287583792201749/unknown.png

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I guess no

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I don't even have weapon 🙄

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:39 PM

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😄

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well most cargoanimations keep the weapons hidden

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:40 PM

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until I need one with visible weapon 🤓 but yeah

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still camera is a bit annoying for those laid downs guys

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:40 PM

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macsers armarig could be useful

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:40 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/165841157350227968/570284005161959427/unknown.png

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:40 PM

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im not 100 sure if the camera bone would be needed though

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it might be related to the 3rd person more

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 4:41 PM

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reason I have a static line paradrop plane exit animations (3 secondes freefall before chute deployment)

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and we want people who will fall headfirst (anim is random) to panic a bit 😄

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:42 PM

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ye definitely

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mm im not actually sure where thats set, I have similar issue with my getin animation that I have not actually had time to look into yet

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@ruby hill we could use your arcane wisdom in this one. is camera/1st person view movement locked to the animation/head bone movement somewhere in the animation config?

ruby hill Apr 23, 2019, 4:45 PM

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headbob=2;

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Correction

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            headBobStrength    = -1;```

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 4:53 PM

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hmm I actually have that in my get in animation but since the animation is anchored to the proxy the view does not work/ the head points to the direction the sitting proxy does.

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well its not todays problem but thanks anyway @ruby hill for quick help, perhaps @proud bay will have his problem sorted with this

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

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trying right now

ruby hill Apr 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Those are the settings that give me correct head control for our get in anims.

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head = empty;

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

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empty head ? hey that's me !

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

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😄

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hmm I''ll try that "empty", Had "defautlHead" in it

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might as well run pack for it on the background 😄

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I'm still looking "into my neck" with these parameters

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327499008660733962/570293513883877382/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327499008660733962/570293558028795924/unknown.png

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class LIB_Stretcher_1: Crew
        {
            file = "\WW2\Core_a\IF_Animations_a\Vehicles\Stretcher\stretcher_1.rtm";
            interpolateTo[] = {"KIA_LIB_Stretcher_1",1};
            headBobMode = 4;
            headBobStrength = -1;
        };```

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 5:07 PM

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put the head = "empty"; there too

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 5:08 PM

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yep just made that and starting the game

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same issue

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probably in issue from viewCargo

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looks ok

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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you got it working?

proud bay Apr 23, 2019, 5:17 PM

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nope

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https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wkcB5KHbsp/

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config dump of the anim configfile >> "CfgMovesMaleSdr" >> "States" >> "LIB_Stretcher_1"

ruby hill Apr 23, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Might be related to the proxy orientation and view limits

desert raven Apr 23, 2019, 5:54 PM

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in my case the proxy faces the opposite direction than where the animation begins and the view movement is very limited. I'll look into that

sharp beacon Apr 24, 2019, 2:33 AM

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@desert raven Noted, I think it was exported as 30fps

crisp berry Apr 24, 2019, 2:57 PM

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can you trigger ragdoll somehow? like if you eject crew from a moving vehicle

desert raven Apr 24, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I think so. Doesnt ACE do that?

white juniper Apr 24, 2019, 3:16 PM

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setUnconscious apparently does it

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I made a intercept script command once to do it

crisp berry Apr 24, 2019, 3:40 PM

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ty

deft fern Apr 25, 2019, 10:19 AM

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cargo anims head direction is overwritten by ViewCargo

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one workaround that I came up was setting up disabled personTurret

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 10:20 AM

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For get in?

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Could the cargo proxy be animated to rotate

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Or will that actually mess up the animation

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Probably

deft fern Apr 25, 2019, 10:22 AM

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FFV turrets on offroad are animated because of that

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Animated to do what? Turn after\during get in?

deft fern Apr 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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turn 180 degrees when turn out occurs

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Uuh

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Have to check that out!! Thanks @deft fern

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In theory I could have a turned out/stand on the chair and peek out of the hatch position in between the actual seat and getin/out animation

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If its made right it would not even clip into the guy sitting on the seat if someone manages to climb in while there's another character already sitting. XD

proud bay Apr 25, 2019, 11:01 AM

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I will try too TY

crisp berry Apr 25, 2019, 1:10 PM

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how hard is it to either port the jump over animation to pistol/unarmed/binocular or to make a new one from scratch?

config wise it should be pretty much the same as for rifle but just using the other Wxxx classes

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Id suppose if you know what you are doing and have right tools blending leg movement from one animationa and upper body movement from another should not be too difficult

crisp berry Apr 25, 2019, 1:56 PM

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wouldnt you "just" replace the weapon in hand and rather not touch the movement parts?

sharp beacon Apr 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Alright at the last stretch of animation right now, open bolt weapon.

When in isEmpty state, bolt is forward - reloadmagazine bolt slides back.

However when there is still rounds in magazine, bolt is open (to the rear) - reloadmagazine slides bolt from open position to the back, out of my weapon.

Any reccomendations on a remedy for open bolt reload? ( Sorry if I dont make any sense, it's been a long week )

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//
class Firing_BoltAssembly
{
type = "translation";
source = "reload";
sourceAddress = "clamp";
selection = "BoltAssembly";
axis = "Bolt_Translate";
minValue = 0;
maxValue = 0.8;
offset0 = 0.5;
offset1 = 0;
};
class Empty: Firing_BoltAssembly
{
source = "isempty";
offset0 = 0;
offset1 = -0.5;
};
class Empty_Bolt
{
type = "translation";
source = "isempty";
sourceAddress = "clamp";
selection = "Bolt";
axis = "Bolt_Translate";
minValue = 0.7;
maxValue = 0.8;
offset0 = -0.01;
offset1 = 0.05;
};

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What I would like to achieve is that if there is still rounds in the magazine, reloadMagazine would not move "boltAssembly"

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Oh @crisp berry I must have misunderstood what you wanted. Id suppose it would not be very hard at all if you only want to swap whats held

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but doesnt the default one already work like that with different items

crisp berry Apr 25, 2019, 4:45 PM

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i havent tried yet to add it in instead of the regular step over, however playMove results in the unit to switch to rifle first

desert raven Apr 25, 2019, 4:46 PM

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ah

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could it be used as gesture instead?

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is its purpose to replace th vanilla step over or to be something new?

crisp berry Apr 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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yeah its already done by ACE, FL, us, and others

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but only for rifle