zinc wadi Apr 15, 2016, 9:08 AM

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If there is no weapon -> returns false

sturdy grove Apr 15, 2016, 9:09 AM

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i'm wondering if the A3 animation can be replaced

granite leaf Apr 15, 2016, 9:09 AM

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ish

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oh

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yes

zinc wadi Apr 15, 2016, 9:09 AM

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"" Is it possible to have a custom animation when a weapon is deployed?""
I gave you the command to check it.

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Then, you should ask the right question 😉

granite leaf Apr 15, 2016, 9:10 AM

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you can replace the A3 animation through the config.cpp

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I belive it is something like CfgMoves???

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but you will find it in the animation viewer

sturdy grove Apr 15, 2016, 9:10 AM

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@zinc wadi I will next time, thank you for your "help"

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@granite leaf I will, I didn't check if there's one for all, or every weapon can have one

granite leaf Apr 15, 2016, 9:12 AM

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there are only 3 weapon switches the devs have made for all weapons: primary, secondary and sidearm

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but atm, I don't think you can have specific animations played for specific weapons (unless it is scripted)

sturdy grove Apr 15, 2016, 9:12 AM

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clever system then 😃

granite leaf Apr 15, 2016, 9:13 AM

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yea

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If you want to create an animation for a specific weapon, then your best bet is like what I had above: waitUntil {(currentWeapon player) isEqualTo "YourWeaponClassName"}; switchMove "YourAnimation";

sturdy grove Apr 15, 2016, 9:14 AM

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a really bad way tho

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and from the comment of "AgentRevolution", probably it will exit the rested state

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i've to check

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"AgentRevolution
You can force a unit out of bipod or resting with:
_unit playMove "";"

granite leaf Apr 15, 2016, 9:15 AM

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yeah, it will exit the rested state, unfortunately.

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actually switching weapons while resting will exit anyway 😕

bold ember Apr 15, 2016, 12:22 PM

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@granite leaf it's ok man, just recently switching weapons whilst running was announced so give another ten years and they will make it not exit Kappa

granite leaf Apr 18, 2016, 11:35 PM

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Ok, cool.

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Hey guys. I have 2 questions regarding about skeletons. 1. Is it safe to freeze a termination bone, since I am not using it. And 2. How do I create facial expressions, and is there anything special that I need to do for the head of my skeleton? I know that BIS has made a facial expression skeleton in a separate .p3d from the main skeleton, but I am not certain if I should separate mine too? - Thanks! :)

ruby hill Apr 19, 2016, 8:39 AM

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Face anims are a different topic that I haven't seen any community person work on. However, it can be done easily. 😃

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But be aware that you are limited to static face expressions only.

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The technology allows playback of multiframe anims for faces, but the playback speed is hardcoded.

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Have a look into the head configuration, subclass "Grimaces" of the default head class.

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Also, depending on how the blend masks for head and eyes are set up, you may experience bugs with head movement that is stored in the face animation file (i.e. head tilting). But its an easy config side fix.

granite leaf Apr 20, 2016, 12:27 AM

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Ah, okay. Yeah the only facial expressions of a xenomorph is its jaw and maw, so it is probably best if I include it in the skeleton xD. Speaking of its maw, is it possible to make it move on a Z axis?

granite leaf Apr 20, 2016, 10:08 PM

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I know bones are used to rotate parts of meshes, but is there a way I can make the maw (if anyone is wondering, the maw is the little mouth that xenomorphs use to finish off their prey) move on a translation axis?

ruby hill Apr 21, 2016, 8:43 AM

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Via .rtm files you can do rotation, translation and even scale.

granite leaf Apr 21, 2016, 10:08 AM

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Awesome. Cheers! :D

last heart Apr 23, 2016, 2:22 PM

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where can I find the rtm files for the weapon reload animations?

last heart Apr 23, 2016, 3:14 PM

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nvm found it

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but why is my head moving when reloading? it just moves to the a** lol

tired needle Apr 25, 2016, 10:57 AM

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I think scale gets ignored during binarization, each bone has a translation and euler rotation but nothing else.

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Unless you just mean the effect of scale you tend to get when joint distances increase.

zenith token Apr 25, 2016, 7:19 PM

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maybe because he forgot the bone / or exported it wrongly ? If reload animation blends between normal pose and reload, that could be a possibility... not sure if head is counted for reload... i thought it was just arms, but i've never done reloads so far.

granite leaf Apr 25, 2016, 11:51 PM

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In 3DS Max, is it possible to use the Spline IK Solver on a standard bone? I do not want to redo another hour or so on painting weights.

granite leaf Apr 29, 2016, 1:04 AM

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Nvm, did a test for myself and it works.

thorny plinth Apr 29, 2016, 5:53 AM

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Im trying to attach a mounted MG to the top of a unarmed hunter using

_aircraft = _this select 0;
HMG_EX = "RHS_M2StaticMG_WD" createVehicle position _aircraft;

HMG_EX attachTo [_aircraft,[0.2, -2.2, 1.4]];

It works, but the animation when the gunner gets in is of him standing up point a weapon. Can this be fixed?
It works fine with AI. Also put this in Scripting help, was unsure where to put it.

north oasis Apr 29, 2016, 6:24 AM

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any one know why since 1.58 my animations all just crouch down and dont actually work how they did post 1.58

class AinvPknlMstpSnonWnonDnon_medic;
class CL3_anim_kick1 : AinvPknlMstpSnonWnonDnon_medic
{
file = "cl\cl3_anims\kick\anims\kick.rtm";
speed = 0.55;
looped = 0;
soundEnabled = 0;
disableWeapons = 0;
minPlayTime = 1;
ConnectTo[] = {};
InterpolateTo[] = { "AmovPercMstpSlowWrflDnon", 0.1, "AmovPercMstpSnonWnonDnon", 0.1, "AmovPercMstpSrasWpstDnon", 0.1, "Unconscious", 0.2 };
};

ruby hill Apr 29, 2016, 8:13 AM

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CHeck the baseclasses and where they come from. Possibly something changed in them and now yours are inheriting the "actions=;" parameter.

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Either set up correct baseclasses or add the correct actions parameter.

north oasis Apr 29, 2016, 8:37 AM

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i have just tryed this

        actions = "NoActions";
        collisionShape = "A3\Anims_F\Data\Geom\Sdr\geom_empty.p3d";

but at the end of the animation the unit gets stuck in the last fram of the animation

https://gyazo.com/76a3788b8c250f488ebffa2e6ea421a3

Gyazo

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you can get out by playing another animation ontop of that but this is not how it worked post 1.58

sturdy grove Apr 29, 2016, 9:48 AM

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Hi there!
We're trying to create some hands animations and reload animations.
One thing is not perfectly clear to us is the weapon position.
We're using Blender.
Here the anim:
https://images-2.discordapp.net/.eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cADKu-ptCBI0akugZj82e_ed-ap33GpTh0ifG8B-zsJj11N45FZ1Y253zf2cuvADWSSX46kkE2zCaNEYFxC9X5ILYDFGl6IPaFaPq0EHL13EH9Kdmvr9AQcfIt8.n56i_RizcgqiNRV9QIMu0r-GMp4.png

As you can see it's really close to the body, not as in Blender:
https://images-1.discordapp.net/.eJwFwVsOhCAMAMC7cADKo1D1NgQJmlVKoMaPzd59Z77qGZfa1CHS5wawnzPz2PUUHqkWXZnrVVI_p858QxJJ-bhLkwk2UrBkjEMi75foECyF4GJ0Bgk9RbsiPO3T-G26t6p-fwbFItw._DexpIuh-lx5CyQWIMeHTt7-S1Y.png?width=400&height=295

My question is, can the rtm "edit" the weapon position or i've to move the weapon further in OB and then tweak the rtm?

naive hemlock Apr 29, 2016, 10:30 AM

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weapon position is given by the weapon bone (small "w" for A3)

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check \Arma 3 Samples\Addons\TemplateRTM\Male.p3d edit 1.0 lod

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you'll see where is the bone axis positioned

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for the blender rig you're using (i assume is the one realeased publicly) it doesn't really matter where your mesh is. it matters where the bone (the one that you are exporting) is

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in short, if the position of the weapon in relation to the OB (0,0,0) world axis is the same as the A3 sample provided

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then bone axis is somewhere in from of your trigger guard

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so in short to answer your question: you don't need to move the weapon mesh, you need to move your bone in blender

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@sturdy grove ^

nova cairn Apr 29, 2016, 10:44 AM

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I'm trying to make a simple elevator object, but I have several issues with the way i design it right :

sturdy grove Apr 29, 2016, 10:44 AM

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Thank you Pufu 😃

nova cairn Apr 29, 2016, 10:45 AM

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i used the sample door pattern, and switch rotation to translationY

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1 : in OB, the elevator goes up to 10 units (min/max value=0/10, offset0/offset1 = 0/10), but in game it only move to 1 unit.
2 : the roadway follow the animation, but because of the way arma is designed, an unit placed on the raodway need to be in movement to be "linked" to the elevator, if the unit is static it ignore the roadway moving up (not very clear explanation ^^)

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this must have been done before, and I think this is possible to a certain point (arma remains arma), any idea or link ?

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(found a solution for 2 : make multiple layer of roadway, and place it a bit more distant from ground , it's a bit bumpy, but that will do the trick i guess :p)

naive hemlock Apr 29, 2016, 11:53 AM

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there was a bloke who did an elevator for arma, don't temember his name

nova cairn Apr 29, 2016, 5:54 PM

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i'm using : statement = ([this, 'Elevator_1_translation'] call BIS_fnc_DoorNoHandleOpen);
but i think there is a batter BIS_fnc_ that could do that elevator translation, any idea ?

hazy olive Apr 30, 2016, 6:20 PM

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anyone else is having trouble with gear and man animations being broken since 1.58 update?

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rpt is spammed with Obsolete skeletonSource OFP2_ManSkeleton

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and Error: Bone *** doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

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it used to work before 😃

hazy olive Apr 30, 2016, 6:42 PM

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it looks like the skeleton was changed or so. not even the already binarized animations work anymore

naive hemlock Apr 30, 2016, 7:04 PM

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i am pretty sure they haven't changed the skeleton

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which bone is missing?

hazy olive Apr 30, 2016, 7:12 PM

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all of a sudden all animations that we have had stopped working

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and the RPT is full with Obsolete skeletonSource OFP2_ManSkeleton now

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i have not seen any information that this skeleton is obsolete now

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after the last tools update it stopped working

ruby hill May 3, 2016, 9:38 AM

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Check ingame in config browser what the skeleton is that is defined in cfgMovesMaleSdr >> skeletonName

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I'd be surprised if they changed it from OFP2_ManSkeleton now.

last heart May 5, 2016, 9:01 AM

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is it possible to move an animation to a higher position through config?

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I want to have an animation that is for a turned out gunner to be about 2 m above the proxy

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or do I need to make a new animation?

naive hemlock May 5, 2016, 10:03 AM

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new animation if i understand this correctly

drowsy nymph May 5, 2016, 10:20 AM

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You could animate the proxy position in the vehicle's model.cfg I guess. So that it moves the whole proxy when the animationSourceHatch or whatever is active

last heart May 5, 2016, 10:37 AM

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yeah I did so and it works exactly like I wanted lol thanks 😄

torpid star May 10, 2016, 7:44 PM

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@EM: you should consider making the elevator a vehicle with seats that use a casual idle (as in standing in an elevator waiting) animation. i've been briefly trying to help someone solve the elevator thing with script-fu and it turned out to be just the usual frustrating arma shit. like we synced velocity at some point but arma made the character play the falling animation and shit.

probably possible in some crazy hacky easily breakable way but i'd still say do the vehicle thing eventhough it soudns really weird. best i could come up with at least (didn't execute on it but should work just fine).

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 7:52 PM

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May be possible to use setPos at a fixed interval

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or lerp between the starting and end point through a parametric function

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 7:57 PM

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I'm not sure what the effect of that would be performance wise though, I don't think it would be horrible, but spamming global commands nearly every frame isn't the best idea

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 7:58 PM

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of course not

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 7:58 PM

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AttachTo would be another alternative, but then you are unable to move your character and camera which isn't fun

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 7:58 PM

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send a command to all client with the information needed to animate the elevator

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just needs one broadcast

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send the begin and end position, the duration it should take for the elevator to reach the end point, and then on the client, interpolate between the two positions for the given duration

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hmm

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actually

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elevator would need to be local to each client

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scratch that

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well actually

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if you want a smooth transition, the elevators could be local to each client and synchronized upon actions

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:00 PM

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And the player's position?

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:01 PM

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each iteration of the elevator position would also update the position of the player within the elevator

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add the delta Z to the player

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to ensure that nothing bugs out (such as the player falling through the elevator), this would be calculated each frame during the duration

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also reducing lag from a scheduled environent

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:07 PM

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Using setPos? It wouldn't kill the server but a global command every frame is generally not a good idea

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:07 PM

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I didn't say run a global command every frame

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You send out the command once to all clients

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and then the clients process it from there

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:08 PM

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But setting your position isn't done locally, everyone needs to know about it

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:08 PM

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hmm

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:09 PM

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That's why badbenson's idea seems better to me

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:09 PM

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yea

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what kind of elevator is this? where is it going to be used?

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is it inside a building or is it a fancy elevator that people can see externally?

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if it's just one inside some elevator shaft, it can be abstracted with the player requesting to go to a certain floor. doors close, pause for however long it should take to reach the floor. player teleported to the elevator "room" on that floor. doors open

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for an illusion of an elevator

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other players may seem to mysteriously vanish though

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this would be the most performance friendly solution

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and in fact this is how it's done in Battlefield 4

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building off this idea: let's say a group walks into the elevator

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a player requests to go to the next floor

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the request is sent to the server > the server waits for a moment > teleports all players in the elevator to the next floor

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this way it's synchronized

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:20 PM

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ye but by determining the player's position via script you basically lock him in place unless you do your own scripting to control the character but that seems beyond overkill.

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:21 PM

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my last solution only does setpos once

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:21 PM

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so might aswell do attachto or what i suggested. not goign for best looking but kind of simplest and "cleanest" solution

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:21 PM

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It's an illusion of an elevator

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this would be the simplest

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:21 PM

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shit. let me read that lol

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:22 PM

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it's like Battlefield 4's solution for elevators

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:22 PM

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ye. could be cool

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:22 PM

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just go into an elevator, push the button, server then pauses and teleports everyone in the elevator to the next floor

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:23 PM

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yea. could walk around and shit

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:23 PM

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mhmm

torpid star May 10, 2016, 8:23 PM

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nice music in the background

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:23 PM

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everyone gets teleported at the same time

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yea!

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:27 PM

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Yeah just depends on how someone wants to go about it. Using your method you could actually have the elevator model on every level of the building and then only show it after someone hits the button and the doors open

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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^^

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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Pretty creative solution

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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yep -- all depends on how you want to go about it

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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I think part of the reason battlefield did it though was the fact that it would have been a very long elevator ride

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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if you have some fancy exterior elevator that's on the side of a building, this solution may not be the most believable, lol

lapis elm May 10, 2016, 8:28 PM

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Wasn't the elevator to the top of a gigantic tower?

blazing fjord May 10, 2016, 8:29 PM

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that, and they'd have about the same problem as we're having right now

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yea, the elevator was on a big ol' skyscraper 😛

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was fun running between the two elevators, opening and closing them, trolling the enemies

minor valley May 17, 2016, 5:04 PM

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Seems like the surrender animation is broken due to the "switching weapons while moving" feature. If you have a weapon and if you're crouched, surrending doesn't work and the player is stuck in a weird animation loop. Does anyone have a command to force the player to stand up ?

minor valley May 17, 2016, 5:27 PM

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Also, looks like holsering a handgun (by using this: player action ["SwitchWeapon", player, player, 100]; ) is broken and the player is defnitiley stuck in an animation loop until he selects another weapon

minor valley May 18, 2016, 12:09 PM

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Is there a list of different masks that can be used in CfgGesturesMale ?

real bane May 19, 2016, 8:13 AM

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i dont know a mask , but for sure if you know some basic from blender and object builder its easy to make animation and use it instead of arma 3 gesture if you want rig of bug 😛

austere orbit May 20, 2016, 7:39 AM

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Is it possible to make a paddling animation, so you actually have a paddle and the boat moves

real bane May 21, 2016, 10:24 AM

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It's hard to animated the finger of a character . I need to make a driver animations but when i need to rotate the finger... the bones are completly broken

sturdy flame May 26, 2016, 3:40 PM

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Hello guys!

minor valley May 26, 2016, 5:13 PM

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hi

sturdy flame May 27, 2016, 3:59 PM

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guy, who skilled with custom skeletons or animals for arma?

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cuz we doing animals pack and i dont know how to port it in p3d and apply anims 😦

lapis elm May 27, 2016, 9:42 PM

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Looked at the Test_Animal_01 sample?

sturdy flame May 28, 2016, 3:05 PM

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no

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i need to port model from 3D Max to P3d with own custom skeleton

sturdy flame May 28, 2016, 9:02 PM

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I FIND SOLUTION!!!!

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YEAH!!!

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Now we can make any custom skeletons and creatures!

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😈

minor valley May 29, 2016, 2:52 AM

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I'm looking for someone that can make a reload animation for my air gun weapon model. Would be paid ofc

crisp berry May 29, 2016, 4:43 AM

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@minor valley contact smookie and see if he has time

minor valley May 29, 2016, 1:48 PM

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Error 404: smookie not found

minor valley May 29, 2016, 2:27 PM

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Last active on BI forums: January 6

naive hemlock May 29, 2016, 2:36 PM

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@minor valley check with @rare peak

wild wagon May 30, 2016, 11:38 PM

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anyone know how to edit weapon recoil? im not saying just in a scripting way, im talking about animation as well

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default arma 3 recoil is appaling and immersion breaking, the only mod with fairly decent recoil is Veteran mod

zenith token May 30, 2016, 11:49 PM

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then why don't you look at how they did it?

wild wagon May 30, 2016, 11:50 PM

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even they didnt do it 100% right

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and they are russians, they dont care to talk

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if you played squad/insurgency

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i want that level of smootness

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is that possible in arma is all im asking

minor valley May 30, 2016, 11:51 PM

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Any idea why this happen : https://i.gyazo.com/186ef70301b42890b6db5fdd499bc183.gif ?

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I have mask = upperTorso, yet hands don't move

zenith token May 31, 2016, 12:10 AM

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you mean the hands follow the weapon instead of doing something else? Iirc you had to disable IK / blend between non IK and IK

minor valley May 31, 2016, 12:13 AM

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Here is the actual config lines:

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class GestureReloadDartGunStand: Default
{
file = "\saanims\anims\gestures\GestureReloadDartGun_Stand";
speed = 0.5;
looped = 0;
mask = "upperTorso";
canPullTrigger = 0;
leftHandIKCurve[] = {0.05,1,0.1133,0,0.71666,0,0.76667,1};
};

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Hmm.. What should I do then ? I'm pretty new to anims

minor valley May 31, 2016, 1:06 AM

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What does this IKCurve array even means ? I understood that when set to 1, it just doesn't apply the movements on bones. When set to 0, it does every move.

pulsar depot Jun 1, 2016, 12:57 AM

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Im curious, I have an interesting bug where when you jump it looks like you are putting your rifle on your back rather than jumping. Your elevation changes and everything, but it's using the wrong animation.

minor valley Jun 1, 2016, 2:32 AM

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@pulsar depot I have the same problem. The player jumps, but in the meantime, he looks like throwing his weapon on his back.

pulsar depot Jun 1, 2016, 3:57 AM

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what mods are you using?

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I'm having animatin issues out the yang, admittedly though, I know nothing about animiations and can't even figure out where to start troubleshooting it

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so yeah

minor valley Jun 2, 2016, 8:26 AM

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I don't use any animation mod if that's your question. Well, not mods that changes the behaviour of the jump anim.

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Try using bad benson's Enhanced Movement, and see what happens

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 8:33 PM

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Hi guys,

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When making animation, can I move axises around if they have the same name as a named selection? I'm working on some advanced animations, but the axis don't seem to move from it's original position.

That should be possible right?

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I want it to follow another moving object, and they have the exact same names, but the axis wont move from it's starting position..

drowsy nymph Jun 2, 2016, 8:55 PM

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Personally I define the axis selection in the skeleton as a child of the selection I am wanting it to follow, and then the final bone as a child of the axis

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but looking at some other models with e.g. an ammo belt, it should work if you define two selections for the axis - the axis name and the name of the bone you want it to move as

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 9:04 PM

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okey. so you make an extra animation for the axis then

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to be identical to the one you want it to follow

drowsy nymph Jun 2, 2016, 9:05 PM

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no, the axis should follow the part you want it tofollow if it is a child of it

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 9:06 PM

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aha I see

drowsy nymph Jun 2, 2016, 9:07 PM

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http://rkslstudios.info/Community/index.php?/topic/167-week-37-sep-12th-back-in-the-swing-of-things/

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 9:07 PM

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thank you I will try that

drowsy nymph Jun 2, 2016, 9:08 PM

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there's a sort of tut I did for an anim in arma 2 where I had multiple axis following movements of other bones

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 9:11 PM

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cool. I never thought if making axises into bones

drowsy nymph Jun 2, 2016, 9:13 PM

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as I said though, it might work if you give the axis a selection with the same name as a bone, so long as you also give it a selection with a unique name to use in the axis="-";

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and the anim probably needs memory=1; to be specified

vivid onyx Jun 2, 2016, 9:15 PM

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I have that in all my animations. Everything is based of axises from the memory lod

craggy walrus Jun 3, 2016, 2:58 AM

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Not sure if this is relevant to animation making, but have any of you animation guys out there noticed that 'AovrPercMrunSrasWrflDf' will switch weapon to your primary when you have your secondary out, and switch back again

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Namely if you did, player switchMove "AovrPercMrunSrasWrflDf";

sturdy flame Jun 5, 2016, 7:17 PM

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NEVER USE SWITCHMOVE!!!!

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use PlayMoveNow or PlayActionNow

fleet pebble Jun 5, 2016, 7:27 PM

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<will always use switchMove

craggy walrus Jun 5, 2016, 7:44 PM

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Not sure that helps the situation

minor valley Jun 8, 2016, 7:42 PM

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@trim badge

granite leaf Jun 10, 2016, 3:47 AM

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@Kol9yN switchMove MUST be used for cutscenes, unknown animations, and maybe even modded animations. However, it does not work on the animations the player controls, which is advised to use playMove or playMoveNow (such as moving and stance anims).

naive hemlock Jun 10, 2016, 10:11 AM

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switchmove should work with any anims teally

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the ones that have blends/transition from one to another

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same for the ones that are not defined that way

sturdy flame Jun 11, 2016, 1:40 PM

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@⭐Rawner135⭐#0845 yes, so close

placid escarp Jun 16, 2016, 4:24 AM

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does anyone here have MoCap capabilities? I'm working on an interesting mod (not zombies/life) and need some proper anims... these choppy Blender ones are just placeholders

sturdy flame Jun 16, 2016, 4:45 AM

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@placid escarp we have straight hands 😉 that better then mocap 😉 and can make any aims

dawn forge Jun 18, 2016, 2:10 PM

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Would anyone be able to point me to a guide or a wiki for learning how to animate? Looking to do stuff from character movements/animations .. I.e holding an object or an animation loop to animating parts on model(are they similar or pretty different)? I plan on just searching as well but I thought if anyone had some go-to guides that they know of and would be willing to share that would be great!

sturdy flame Jun 19, 2016, 11:40 AM

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how i can disable stepsounds for some default arma animations? If rewrite cfg, SoundEnabled=0; not works 😦
anims cfg just not rewriting 😦

ruby hill Jun 29, 2016, 2:05 PM

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soundEdge[] = {};

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 2:13 PM

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Is anyone interested in doing some animation work?

ruby hill Jun 30, 2016, 3:17 PM

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depends

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 3:26 PM

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i can pay?

ruby hill Jun 30, 2016, 3:26 PM

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haha. first tell me what you are looking for ^^

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 3:26 PM

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lol ill pm you

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 3:52 PM

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Anyone else?

crisp berry Jun 30, 2016, 4:40 PM

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you already talk to the best

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 4:46 PM

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he said he cant

crisp berry Jun 30, 2016, 4:47 PM

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so you are out of luck

storm trellis Jun 30, 2016, 4:48 PM

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lol

crisp berry Jun 30, 2016, 4:48 PM

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give up, sell all your assets and go into a monastery

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 10:11 PM

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Does anyone happen to know if man class can make use of type="hide"; animations? My test on this have not proven very fruitful, but could use some verification. The hide works fine in buldozer, but it seems placing the man in editor crashes the game... 😄

drowsy nymph Jun 30, 2016, 10:16 PM

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I don't think so since man-type objects are animated with .rtm. Classically we'd use hiddenselections for that kind of thing back in OFP

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:33 PM

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all these restictions to try to wrangle around. :9 meh

regal dawn Jun 30, 2016, 11:34 PM

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Replace the texure with a procedural alpha texture

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:35 PM

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oh but I was hoping to hide some proxies I have

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tried out this optical camo thing with attached camo objects but it would be much more effiecient if the objects were part of the man itself

regal dawn Jun 30, 2016, 11:36 PM

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I think there is a new hide selection command

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Maybe you can make the proxy a selection an hide unhide it via that command

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:39 PM

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oooh

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oooh

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what is this! new commands

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I'll try this

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unfortunately it does not work.

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oh and theres a note too that it works with objects created with createsimpleobject command

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oh well. Since the whole method is hacky I can make the rest of its use hacky too.

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I'll just have to uniforms. One where the camo is off and one that its on.

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besides that makes it easier to change its camo value

regal dawn Jun 30, 2016, 11:48 PM

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Oh well did not look into that command yet ^^ sry

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:49 PM

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no problem. was quick to test anyway

regal dawn Jun 30, 2016, 11:50 PM

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I remember someone doing a tutorial for such optical camo on a backpack but just with some rvmat did you llok into that?

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:50 PM

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Kiorys method? I've bee trying to copy that, but he didn't leave any examples

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/191975-optical-camouflage-material-research/

regal dawn Jun 30, 2016, 11:51 PM

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Did you try to contact him?

desert raven Jun 30, 2016, 11:51 PM

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yes

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but don't want to pester him with this if hes not around

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got it close enough

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its going to be curiosity item anyway 😄

regal dawn Jul 1, 2016, 12:03 AM

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You stuff looks great indeed

desert raven Jul 1, 2016, 12:17 AM

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thanks!

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its a start

ruby hill Jul 1, 2016, 8:13 AM

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No, hide anims, and in general any model.cfg defined animations do not work on characters.

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You can only hide things via hiddenSelection textures. hideanims would require extra bones, which you would have to add to the skeleton of your unit (if it even worked).

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This usually causes a whole mess with anims not playing back correctly due to now mismatching bone indicies. (yay anim binarisation)

desert raven Jul 1, 2016, 12:53 PM

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@ruby hill Thanks for confirming! I figured this might be the case when placing the char in editor crashed the game 😄 I'll just have to work around it!

sturdy flame Jul 1, 2016, 5:24 PM

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@crisp berry @storm trellis if someone need anims, ask me 😉 We can make anything

crisp berry Jul 1, 2016, 5:32 PM

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so you pay each other? 😃

naive hemlock Jul 1, 2016, 5:44 PM

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kju being sarcastic for once

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good lad

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:07 AM

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any ideas what's the best way to find an animation for a driver that fits the drivewheel? 😄

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:18 AM

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by learning how to make your own animation...

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you will need it anyway for commanders/gunners

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:20 AM

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not for my vehicle 😛 but how hard is to do my own driver animation?

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:23 AM

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how hard is it to walk? any person but a robotics engineer will tell you it's easy.

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:25 AM

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yeah makes sense ^^ are there any good tutorials for making animations?

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:26 AM

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you can lookup how to do keyframe animations in max first on youtube (if you dont know already)

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:27 AM

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I only have Blender

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but I do know how to do simple animations

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:27 AM

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there should be an animationrig for blender iirc

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you do the animation of the bones of the characterskeleton, then export the bones as fbx with animation. Import the fbx into objectbuilder. Then cleanup the animation keyframes (for static position you only need 3 frames), and export as rtm.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ACIBZrNIA not sure how usefull that is to you

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:31 AM

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thank you 😃 what do I have to keep in mind for driver animations?

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wondering if I can import rtm into blender...

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because I only need to change the position of the arms

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:34 AM

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there was a video tutorial about rtm for aircraft crew by gnats (in oxygen2 / for arma 2) or so i think on youtube, i can't find it atm

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:34 AM

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ok I'll look it up

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thanks

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:34 AM

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pretty sure it was gnats, not 100%. Might have been s1 else

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ah found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKtuy0Uhl8

last heart Jul 3, 2016, 11:41 AM

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cool thank you

zenith token Jul 3, 2016, 11:41 AM

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he does it in O2, (which you could too but its tedious...) - but pay attention to the basics (keyframes etc)

orchid crest Jul 5, 2016, 10:23 PM

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anyone interested in making animations for SAF mod?

naive hemlock Jul 6, 2016, 7:41 AM

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what's saf mod? 😛

regal dawn Jul 6, 2016, 8:59 AM

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i guess serbian armed forces

naive hemlock Jul 6, 2016, 8:59 AM

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lol

silk portal Jul 6, 2016, 8:59 AM

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Saudi Air Force?

zenith token Jul 6, 2016, 10:30 AM

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swedes...

lilac night Jul 6, 2016, 1:00 PM

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Figured I'd ask here:
What determines whether you can use playAction on a class of CfgGesturesMale?

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I inherited that class and ONLY changed the speed... but i can't use playAction on that. Does it have to be listed somewhere else too?

sturdy flame Jul 6, 2016, 2:43 PM

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@last heart ask me about anims 😉 we can make any anim 😉

naive hemlock Jul 6, 2016, 3:23 PM

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@sturdy flame - "we" - is that your split personality talking? can you please piss off back under the rocked you crawled under?

zenith token Jul 6, 2016, 5:23 PM

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does somebody - per chance - have a "library" with images of the different vanilla FFV animations?

zenith token Jul 6, 2016, 5:42 PM

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@thorny anvil is DeRTM part of any other tool of yours now?

crisp berry Jul 6, 2016, 5:52 PM

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still exists

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probably paid only

sturdy flame Jul 6, 2016, 6:12 PM

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@naive hemlock i have good team, this is WE! Now put ur tongue in self ass please, and stop try to attack me... got it?

bitter oyster Jul 6, 2016, 6:51 PM

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ehm... what?

ruby hill Jul 7, 2016, 8:11 AM

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@lilac night playAction works with gestures, if your gesture is set up to be reachable through a manAction

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That is class Actions >> someActonMap >> myNewManAction

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where it is configured as this:

myNewManAction[] = {myNewGestureStateClassName, Gesture};

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But beware of engine trickery. For new manActions to be valid, they MUST be configured in CfgMovesBasic's manActions:

{
    class ManActions
    {
        myNewManAction = ;```

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Simply declaring them there as empty string suffices.

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Or if you declare them there right away with the gesture array, all other actionMaps will have this manAction available, and this playAction works in all cases.
The power and magic of baseclasses. 😄

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The real benefit of this is, that you can specify gestures per stance. I.e a different reload animation per stance, say one for prone and one for the rest. ;)
(Not sure how well A3's anim configs are set up for this, as again, you'd need proper base classes here to manage this well and implement it easily.)

plucky fossil Jul 7, 2016, 4:48 PM

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what's saf mod? 😛

🚎

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anyway we got it handled

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by learning how to do it though kek

zenith token Jul 7, 2016, 7:56 PM

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that's the spirit 👌

plucky fossil Jul 8, 2016, 12:36 AM

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so the minValue and maxValue in model.cfg animations part is actually time in... seconds, minutes or what exactly... trying to adjust frame times and having a hard time with these...

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                    //i.e. The controller input when animation phase is 0.
      maxValue = 1; //The maximum value of the motion range.
                    //i.e. The controller input when animation phase is 1.```

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minimum value of pressure in PSI?

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motion range... well not explaining much

lapis elm Jul 8, 2016, 12:45 AM

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Just quickly testing it in buldozer changing the maxValue from to 1 to 10 didn't change where the animation ended. It only changed the number of intervals from the start to the end of the animation

plucky fossil Jul 8, 2016, 12:46 AM

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I see, what I am looking for perhaps is animperiod?

lapis elm Jul 8, 2016, 12:46 AM

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I'm also under the impression that animPeriod in the model.cfg does nothing, but I have to wait a bit before I can test it

plucky fossil Jul 8, 2016, 12:47 AM

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no rush take your time, Im done for tonight anyway its 3AM

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thanks for the check

lapis elm Jul 8, 2016, 12:47 AM

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I'll play around with it and post the results here

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 12:52 AM

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@plucky fossil it's the min and max value your animation operates in relating to the source.
For example if you take speed as source, the source will have values with unit m/s (from -infinity to +infinity). So you could say minvalue=0 and maxvalue=20 to limit the operating range of your animation to a speed from 0 to +20m/s.

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many sources operate in 0 to 1 range

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i suspect animperiod in model.cfg only would so something for animations with user source, executed with animate command. In normal operation it seems useless.

plucky fossil Jul 8, 2016, 4:16 AM

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well shoot... I need to sync the reload anim with actual mag anim defined in model.cfg and times... that does not sound like something that could help

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but lets first see the finished anim and then I can test and sync the times... this is all new to me

ruby hill Jul 8, 2016, 8:34 AM

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I'm also under the impression that animPeriod in the model.cfg does nothing, but I have to wait a bit before I can test it
@lapis elm

Correct. It's been some ancient copypasta that animPeriod somehow made it into the model.cfg, and has been repeated ever since.

animPeriod is only relevant in class animationSources inside the .cpp

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@plucky fossil You'll have to modify the reload or reloadMagazine animSource via class animationSources in the weapon's config. anim period will help you there then.

drowsy nymph Jul 8, 2016, 9:26 AM

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@ruby hill @Jastreb#8971 reloadMagazine period is defined magazineReloadTime in the weapon config (likewise reload source period is the reloadTime parameter that defines rate of fire). It's not like you can modify the hardcoded animationSources for weapons anyway, only cfgVehicles allows user defined ones.

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Basically to sync the weapon reloading model config sequence with the .rtm sequence, you need to look at the keyframe numbers in the .rtm. They should be normalised to run between 0 and 1 so when something occurs at keyframe 0.5 in the .rtm, it's representing 0.5*magazineReloadTime in real time, and the value passed to the model.cfg will be 0.5 as well

ruby hill Jul 8, 2016, 9:56 AM

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Ah cool, that's great to know.

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Yeh, animationSources lets you modify the reload source for example of vehicles. But it doesnt work in cfgWeapons.

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i.e.:

        {
            class main_firing
            {
                source                        = "reload";
                weapon                        = "derp_ksp88";
            };
            class main_reloadMagazine
            {
                source                        = "reloadmagazine";
                weapon                        = "derp_ksp88";
            };
            class secondary_reloadMagazine
            {
                source                        = "reloadmagazine";
                weapon                        = "derp_ksp56";
            };
        };```

You can then use secondary_reloadMagazine in your model.cfg to trigger this specific weapon/anim

drowsy nymph Jul 8, 2016, 10:02 AM

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Yeah, it's kind of a shame we can only do custom anim sources for cfgVehicles and not cfgWeapons

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but at least BIS have expanded the number of available sources for weapons

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 11:21 AM

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i only wish they would repair the sources that are vailable but dont work with physx variants (throttle for planeX and drivingWheel for tankX)

ruby hill Jul 8, 2016, 11:38 AM

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The entire approach of type specific simulation classes is outdated :/

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 11:43 AM

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i mean, why can't BI give us animation controllers directly relating to controller input, instead of some hardcoded simulation class stuff?

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T83574

sleek island Jul 8, 2016, 12:17 PM

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well to be honest whole animation system is outdated

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or i should say animation tree system

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nowdays animation must have a proper blending so you can do basicly everything

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like you can see in Squad or in RO2

left lotus Jul 8, 2016, 12:57 PM

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Hello, I have a question I want to make an animation for a hydraulic, one that angles up and out at the same time, would I use direct animation for that? And if so how do you set up for a direct animation?

plucky fossil Jul 8, 2016, 4:06 PM

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thanks for the input guys much appreciated

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 4:55 PM

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Oh the joy of debugging. Spent hours trying to figure out why maxHoldsterValue animation did not work just to find out it was my turret config that had broken it. Seems it only works on turrets directly in the class turrets but not on turrets nested in turrets.

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 6:56 PM

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Hey, got this weird thing happening with vehicle interior and passenger view. For some reason my interior seems to move with the turrets, even though theres no animated selection set up for it. The interior moves to left when turret turns to right and when I fire upwards the interior turns down and when I fire down the interior turns up. Nothing of the sorts happens on the outside view though. Any ideas where I could start debugging this? I've gone through model.cfg and config and I've removed the interior from any selection and it still moves.

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 7:24 PM

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no selections and it still moves? wtf?

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is it a normal turret, or a turret within a turret?

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your skeleton/ bone structure must be the same as the turret structure. So if a turret is dependant on another turret within the skeleton, that turret must also be inside the "masterturret"

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i assume that you have moved a "childturret" to toplevel in the config and now you get screwed over that way (especially with stabilizedinAxis)

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if maxHoldsterValue does not work with sub-turrets, have you tried isSelected?

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 7:45 PM

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I moved the turret I use holstervalue to the base of the class turrets, so I have 2 turrets there now and they seem to work alright. The whole interior movinb bussiness was happening before that change though so I assume they are not related.

In the skeleton I have:

"torso",""

"turretparts","torso",

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slighltly simplified but what you said got me thinking that does the engine now treat the "torso" I use as a base for the rest of the skeleton as a turret

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 7:47 PM

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is torso a turret?

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 7:47 PM

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no

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well not right now

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before I had it set up to turn with the main turret control

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but now that I took all the animations from it the interior still moves

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but it has never been its own turret class

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 7:49 PM

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are you sure the interior moves? if there is no selection i would rather say, the turret moves but the interior doesnt -> making it look like the interior moves in opposite direction

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 7:50 PM

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hmm

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it could be that. but it kinda jerks around and its not smooth like how the turret parts move

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and also why would it move up and down only when fired

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I gotta make the interior transparent!

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That should make it so I can see whats going on better

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oh and the behavior starts when I fire the first shot

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 7:58 PM

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well your not exactly doing standard stuff with your walkers, so i wouldnt be surprised about glitches...

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 7:58 PM

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yeah

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the turrets move normally before i fire though. :L after that, the weird moves start

zenith token Jul 8, 2016, 8:00 PM

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maybe its the recoil. try very weak ammo&magazine to see if it goes away

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amount of recoil unfortunately is hardcoded to hit (and i think initspeed) value, likely also indirecthit, afaik

desert raven Jul 8, 2016, 8:02 PM

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now that I got more view it seems the view stays at the same level but the mesh does rotate

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recoil wouldnt then count for the sideways turning?

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considered for a moment if its the camera/viewpoint that moves, but horizon and everything outside stays the same so it has to be the mesh that moves

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also now that I think back when I had the torso moving with the guns it moved smoothly, but when I fired the movement changed

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gotta try to take the torso out of the skeleton and see what happens

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oh whats that I see

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I wonder if it is the camera

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it kindla looks like the crew proxies move up and down

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😮

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the proxies do move

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or strech and compress

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that explains the up and down movement

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maybe it is the camera then

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if its just an illusion when the camera moves :I

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now to figure out why the proxy moves like that.

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could be the recoil if it affects the proxy

zenith token Jul 15, 2016, 2:01 AM

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so does addonbuilder actually binarize rtms properly finally? Havent done in ages, back then i still had the old version that was required as the new one couldnt 💩 ... cause all i'm seeing now is spaghetti (even for anims that have previously worked)

ruby hill Jul 15, 2016, 9:04 AM

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Always found the need to include a model.cfg straight with the .rtm, so that makes me suspect there's some binning going on.

steady hearth Jul 15, 2016, 10:05 AM

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ww2\assets_m\characters\germans_m\ger_wehrmacht\ww2_pilot_new.p3d
///ww2\core_a\animationvehicles_1_a\kfz1\kfz1_gunner.rtm

Error: Bone trigger doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton
Error: Bone weapon all doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton
Error: Bone bolt doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton
Error: Bone bottom rail doesn't exist in skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton

what this means? like too much bones in the rtm or too little?

E:\kju\Programs\MikeroTools>DeRtmDos.exe -p z:\ww2\core_a\animationvehicles_1_a\kfz1\kfz1_gunner.rtm
DeRtmDos x64UnicodeVersion 1.74, Dll 5.54 "kfz1_gunner.rtm"
z:\ww2\core_a\animationvehicles_1_a\kfz1\kfz1_gunner.rtm: UNbinarised
2 Frames, 71 bones
vertex[]={0.0,0.0,0.0};
No Error(s)

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```E:\kju\Programs\MikeroTools>DeRtmDos.exe -p -B z:\ww2\core_a\animationvehicles_1_a\kfz1\kfz1_gunner.rtm`

bones

...
Trigger
Weapon All
bolt
bottom rail```

so seems too much - to be removed; is this done in o2?

ruby hill Jul 15, 2016, 10:19 AM

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```what this means? like too much bones in the rtm or too little?````

Looks like someone applied the OFP2_manSkeleton to a weapon. So it is complaining that possibly some existing model.cfg type animations dont have their required bones available.

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Another possibility would be that the .rtm contains bone information about these selections, but the target model doesn't have them. The source creator would surely know what happened here.

zenith token Jul 15, 2016, 10:22 AM

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looks more like the later case. bones that are not inside the model.cfg -> the game has no idea how to treat them

ruby hill Jul 15, 2016, 10:23 AM

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Weirdly enough I've never experienced it actually complaining about excess bone info stored in an .rtm. It always did as it should: Just ignored it.

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Also, due to the method of anim binarisation (at least how it used to be), the OFP2_ManSkeleton is pretty much set. You cannot add extra bones, as that messes with the bone indicies and their references in .rtm.

steady hearth Jul 15, 2016, 12:50 PM

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thanks

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well he put a MG ontop of a jeep

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i will ask him to fix it

zenith token Jul 16, 2016, 2:28 AM

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o0 i just made a new tank commander MG animation with IK for the hands following the gun. If i stay in first person, the hands won't move. If i go in 3rd person the hands move perfectly fine. If i switch back to 1st person the hands have moved position (like 3rd) but stay frozen when i continue to move the gun... any ideas?

crisp berry Jul 16, 2016, 3:53 AM

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anything in debug.log?

zenith token Jul 16, 2016, 9:48 AM

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aha i accidentally deleted the gunner view lod - so it switched to 0 res lod but apparently that breaks IK

desert raven Jul 16, 2016, 11:31 AM

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wait so the hands dont move in res lods? or its just when it uses res lod as view lod?

zenith token Jul 16, 2016, 11:33 AM

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i specified it should use gunner view LOD, but this LOD wasn't present in the p3d. So it reverted to LOD0 (and complained in rpt) - which broke the first person IK animation

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put the gunner view Lod back in place-> fixed

desert raven Jul 16, 2016, 11:38 AM

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Excellent!

zenith token Jul 16, 2016, 1:36 PM

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addonbuilder says wassup? https://abload.de/img/20160715041926_1epkwr.jpg

desert raven Jul 16, 2016, 3:05 PM

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I see you've been talking with the chaos sorcerors again.

zenith token Jul 16, 2016, 3:07 PM

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i travelled too close to the eye of terror...

desert raven Jul 16, 2016, 4:29 PM

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youre going to need lots of fire to clean that up.

regal dawn Jul 17, 2016, 1:49 PM

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this will hunt me in my dreams 🙃

desert raven Jul 18, 2016, 8:28 PM

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xD

stiff rune Jul 19, 2016, 11:32 AM

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and i thought it was just me having these issues... any find a solution? 😃

zenith token Jul 19, 2016, 11:40 AM

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use pboProject... there is no other way. The old addonbuilder version that could still binarize animations properly stopped working long ago

stiff rune Jul 19, 2016, 11:42 AM

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thanks 😃

dense parrot Jul 19, 2016, 7:28 PM

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anyone around?

desert raven Jul 19, 2016, 9:44 PM

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perhaps

dense parrot Jul 19, 2016, 11:34 PM

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goat you still around?

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@desert raven

dense parrot Jul 20, 2016, 2:34 AM

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If anyone gets online who wouldnt mind helping with a project let me know.

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I am working on getting a working vehicle (a horse) in game. I have the model and I currently have 30 animations. I just need to port it over to arma 3, converting the model to a p3d isn't an issue. I'll need help with the config, model config and the animations.

ruby hill Jul 20, 2016, 12:28 PM

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Heh, I've done exactly that about 1.5 years ago. It's a complex task, but not impossible.

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Best starting point for you would be the configuration setup of any of the animals. For example the cow.

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See how the dedicated CfgMoves class (cfgMovesCow, I believe) is set up, and pay special attention to classes "actions", "states" and "manActions"

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Best is always to work with and learn from a functioning example

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Also it would definitely help you a lot knowing how to import a custom character into Arma3 first. I.e an entirely newly skinned soldier

strange abyss Jul 21, 2016, 11:05 PM

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What software do people use to make reload animation? I have been working with blender but I can't get the rig to work.

dense parrot Jul 22, 2016, 2:02 AM

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I use blender.

desert raven Jul 22, 2016, 7:33 AM

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Blender+ FHQ Arma Toolbox for Blender

strange abyss Jul 26, 2016, 1:07 AM

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Is it possible to preview animation in buldozer or object builder? It takes tons of time to make little tweaks to animations if you have to make PBO allways.

drowsy nymph Jul 26, 2016, 1:15 AM

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@strange abyss in OB - view\viewers\rtm preview been a while since I tried it though so not 100% how well it works nowadays

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[ ] keys aparently adjust rtm playback speed

sturdy flame Jul 29, 2016, 2:35 PM

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@dense parrot Im working on horse and other ANIMALS too 😉 So PM me and we can make something special togahter 😉

indigo lagoon Jul 31, 2016, 5:45 PM

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I'm having an issue with AnimationSources directly affecting my hitpoints as when I move it my wheels no longer destroy. What array should AnimationSources be in?

crisp berry Jul 31, 2016, 6:43 PM

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there is a BIKI page about hiding wheels via anims; have you seen that yet?

indigo lagoon Aug 1, 2016, 2:14 PM

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No I havent

crisp berry Aug 1, 2016, 7:07 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/How_to_create_destroyable_wheels

How to create destroyable wheels

desert raven Aug 2, 2016, 9:30 PM

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is the A3 weapon bone all lower case "weapon" or "Weapon"?

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"weapon" it is. Silly me could have opened up the model.cfg right away..

naive hemlock Aug 2, 2016, 9:52 PM

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a2 is Weapon a3 is weapon

desert raven Aug 2, 2016, 10:14 PM

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Yeah I've spent hours trying to figure out why my weapon bone does not move.. Might be useful to have "weapon" selection and not "Weapon".. 😛

desert raven Aug 3, 2016, 2:07 AM

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Ah the feeling when animation works as it should!

median crane Aug 5, 2016, 3:01 PM

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@zenith token @stiff rune Rename folder "anims_f" from P:/ drive and rebuild with addonbuilder. It worked for me. This issue was first appeared a long time ago and fixed later but It looks like the issue have appeared again.

desert raven Aug 7, 2016, 8:40 PM

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Did Arma have a way to specify exact point where getin/getout animations are played?

desert raven Aug 7, 2016, 9:25 PM

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Hmm could it actually just be knifed in via getin/getout eventhandler.

zenith token Aug 7, 2016, 11:15 PM

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isnt getin/out anim always played at "getin pos" in "get in dir" ?

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 7:45 AM

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Not in my experience. The animation plays in whatever direction you watch

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And at the spot you activate the command

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And I want to achieve this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLF4s8L8y4Y

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so im thinking bypassing the actual get in alltogether and making appropriate scripted entry sequences instead.

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Or overriding the getin to do the scripted entry depending on circumstances

zenith token Aug 8, 2016, 9:23 AM

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when i use getin for my vehicles with the temporary vanilla animation, it always points in the same direction (and clips with the head into the vehicle). there is some config value "preciseGetIn" or something like that (with precise) - try that before you go and do unnecessary scripts.

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 11:23 AM

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@zenith token "preciseGetInOut" was exactly what I was thinking of but was uncertain was it there. Could not find it on google and silly me did not think of looking into configviewer.

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there is also "getInOutOnProxy" that sounds interesting, but I could not find what it does 😄

zenith token Aug 8, 2016, 12:32 PM

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as it is documented nowhere (what it does), i guess testing would be the only way

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 2:02 PM

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That indeed. I think I still need to device a scripted system into the getin because by quick count there are 5 different cases how the walkers can be entered and I would very much like to have all the different sequences animated.. Simples way would of course the regular generic all around working step/hop into the vehicle.. But it just wouldnt do justice for the whole concept.

crisp berry Aug 8, 2016, 4:07 PM

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preciseGetInOut is KOTH only AFAIK

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if you search the exe, and if it doesnt turn up, its likely not in the A3 source/engine

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 7:53 PM

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oh. A3 configs do have it. Have to test it to make sure.

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But as said I need 5 different animations for both seats for all different approaches so im pretty sure Im going to need scripts for it.

zenith token Aug 8, 2016, 8:16 PM

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although its neat to have complete getin animations and such, i find it a bit wastefull (time efford vs gain)

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 8:27 PM

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oh yeah definitely

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but

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Arma modding in general 😄

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is a bit of an time sink anyway

slow zenith Aug 8, 2016, 9:56 PM

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@desert raven OMG that animation is so cool!

desert raven Aug 8, 2016, 10:07 PM

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@slow zenith Thanks man! Glad you like it in such a raw form.. XD Going to be epic when its more refined and proper!

slow zenith Aug 8, 2016, 10:08 PM

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that's raw form? it looks complete to me, lol. Well if it's just raw form then I can't wait to see it when it's refined and completed!

hexed hornet Aug 10, 2016, 9:02 PM

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something I've started working on a few days ago:
Blender Addon for RTM import
source: https://github.com/4d4a5852/rtm_import
screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/yqAE3

pretty much WIP
not very useful at the moment because of the disabled IK (and other control bones) in Blender

naive hemlock Aug 10, 2016, 9:20 PM

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pretty cool 😛

fleet pebble Aug 10, 2016, 9:22 PM

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Awesome!

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that will hopefully make propper antimations easier

hexed hornet Aug 10, 2016, 9:26 PM

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at the moment I need to disable all the bone constraints of the ArmaRig to import the RTM - currently looking for a solution to get the IK working again

strange abyss Aug 17, 2016, 8:38 PM

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I am trying to get hand IK working it shoud be left hand will be free to move to about half way to the animation then the right hand wil be able to move during the rest of the animation. have i got it right? rightHandIKBeg = true;
rightHandIKCurve[] = {0, 1, 0.592, 0};
rightHandIKEnd = false;
leftHandIKBeg = false;
leftHandIKCurve[] = {0, 0, 0.592, 1};
leftHandIKEnd = true;

ruby hill Aug 18, 2016, 8:04 AM

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The way you set it up right now is that left hand will slowly become IK-Active between phase 0 and phase 0.592, then remain fully active until the end.

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I'd recommend for the sake of readability to stack the params in the config, it could look like this:

{
    // time, phase
    0  , 0,
    0.5, 0,
    0.6, 1,
    1  , 1
};```

This will do the following:

Phase 0.0 to 0.5 = 0% IK
Phase 0.5 to 0.6 transitions from 0% to 100% IK

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The last pair you could leave out, but I keep those for the sake of readability.

sturdy flame Aug 30, 2016, 4:48 PM

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@ruby hill mate, please tell me how calculate speed param 😃 thank you

ruby hill Aug 30, 2016, 6:20 PM

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Target framerate divided by total frame count.

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I.e 30fps divided by 60frames gives you 0.5

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Its the inverse of time.

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2s anim duration = 1 divided by 2

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But go with the first equation to factor in the capture/native framerate.

sturdy flame Aug 31, 2016, 8:36 PM

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@ruby hill for example, i have anim with 246 frames in 25fps, what speed i should to set? Thank you 😃

ruby hill Aug 31, 2016, 8:37 PM

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Target framerate divided by total frame count.

sturdy flame Aug 31, 2016, 8:39 PM

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so 246/25 ?

ruby hill Aug 31, 2016, 8:43 PM

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No. The inverse of that.

sturdy flame Sep 3, 2016, 5:18 PM

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@ruby hill thank u a lot mate 😃

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25 / 246 = 0.1017

dark hawk Sep 7, 2016, 11:48 PM

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Spent the last couple o days trawling the internet for a concise answer and failed so I bow to your collective wisdom !
Im trying to import a custom weapon holding animation, it was created in the Blender rig fyi. Put the .rtm in an anim folder inside of data, put the model.cfg there, redefine handanim and.... scary arms time. from what I have found, this is possibally related to addon builder not doing something correctly ?

zenith token Sep 8, 2016, 3:34 AM

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depends on how scary the arms look... if its tentacle monster then yeah possibly. If its just gorilla arms you placed the bones wrong

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 4:21 AM

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Tentacle thing from nightmares kinda scary

zinc wadi Sep 8, 2016, 6:16 AM

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In japan, almost everyone would play with it.

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 7:35 AM

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This is true, however its for an australian F90, so not desired 😦

ruby hill Sep 8, 2016, 8:10 AM

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place the model.cfg in the folder with the anims. A3 does weird things otherwise during binarization.

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It just needs to know what the skeleton is.

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 8:37 AM

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yup, model.cfg with OFP2_manskeleton and the ArmaMan model entries.

drowsy nymph Sep 8, 2016, 9:09 AM

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is it the latest one with pivotsModel="A3\anims_f\data\skeleton\SkeletonPivots.p3d"; defined?

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not sure if you need that .p3d extracted to that path on P:\ as well

ruby hill Sep 8, 2016, 9:24 AM

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the pivtos model is only needed for ingame IK and animation layering

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it's purely a reference for joint locations

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 9:25 AM

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Yep pivots model is defined and present in P

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 10:06 AM

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ok, more messing aroud with it. IS it posiable the blender rig is useing a diff skeleton ? as the hands... "apprear" to be vaguely in the right positions/orientation etc. but everything is streached out to hell and the weapon has not moved, pic inc.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/hb2qsn8ahehf9kq/20160908200828_1.jpg?dl=0

drowsy nymph Sep 8, 2016, 10:11 AM

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Weapon never moves in handanim - it's always in the place defined by the rifle-raised anim. The handanim IK works based on the position of the hands relative to the weapon bone

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 10:37 AM

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hmm, so im on the wrong track then, but something is completly borked here somewhere, as it dosent seem to be positioning the hands relative to the weapon bone. Cheers for the assistance, back to the drawing board it is.

drowsy nymph Sep 8, 2016, 10:42 AM

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in general, just placing the weapon bone a few feet in front of the unit model, detaching the hands and posing them alone is enough to make a handanim

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it could be a packing problem though

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I think some people have experienced the tools messing up handanims on addons where they previously worked

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In Arma 2 I always used to leave .rtm unbinarised with ;*rtm in the list of files to copy for the .pbo packing tool, so I'm not too sure what Arma 3 expects of it

zenith token Sep 8, 2016, 11:34 AM

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unbinarized rtm never worked for me in A3. And addonbuilder doesnt binarize them properly. Had to use pboproject

dark hawk Sep 8, 2016, 12:37 PM

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Ah, right. Ill give pbo project a shot then ! Cheers

dark hawk Sep 9, 2016, 1:49 PM

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and... back. PBOproject semed to like it a lot better !https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8nu1d944ryhqqr/20160909125254_1.jpg?dl=0 but it still seems to be not lined up with the weapon bone ? Im adjsuting the anim in LOD 1.000 male.p3d in the samples and said animation has 3 keyframes, -0.500000, 0.00000 , 1.00000 Even tried moveing the weapon around in Objectbuilder and no change ? Am I exporting the RTM from the wrong place ? have I missed a blinding simple solution ?

drowsy nymph Sep 9, 2016, 1:51 PM

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That just looks like you exported the .rtm with hands and weapon bones too far away from each other

dark hawk Sep 9, 2016, 3:30 PM

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right well, it turns out keyframe -0.500000 needs teh weapon down n off to the right, in the jesus pose. the other two to the shoulder. Im thinking once I get this down to a fine art I should write up a series of steps for anyone else attempting the joys. Cheers for all the help guys !

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 4:57 PM

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should it be possible and when how, to edit an already existing Animation and Adjust it to own fittings

drowsy nymph Sep 12, 2016, 5:09 PM

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if you can unbinarise the .rtm

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 5:10 PM

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ok, i was need commander_apcwheeled2hi_out a slightly moved back. Since i want to add alternate view but don't have access to the Model p3d

drowsy nymph Sep 12, 2016, 5:10 PM

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I don't know that there are any plugins that can export .rtm or keyframes to better animation software though

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 PM

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where i use this animation

drowsy nymph Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 PM

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Why not just move the proxy further back?

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 PM

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but don't have access to the Model p3d

drowsy nymph Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 PM

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oh

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 5:11 PM

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so if i would have access to the p3d i would change it via Proxy

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but my only Option actually is, to / edit the Animation

drowsy nymph Sep 12, 2016, 5:12 PM

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well I think Mikero has something for unbinarising .rtm files, or you can look in the old Arma 2 unbinarised data to see if there's an appropriate anim that you can adapt

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but really, static crew animations aren't all that hard to make from scratch

stoic marsh Sep 12, 2016, 5:23 PM

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i don't have expirence in animations or 3d, i only make 2d stuff primarly and some basic config stuff

ruby hill Sep 13, 2016, 8:02 PM

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Figured this might belong here. :D
https://youtu.be/1_EaSnveeAA

crisp berry Sep 13, 2016, 8:09 PM

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quite neat 😃

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does this have/need a custom skeleton or is shrinking the A3 one possible?

ruby hill Sep 13, 2016, 8:09 PM

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its all custom.

crisp berry Sep 13, 2016, 8:10 PM

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so you are saying legos are not human? 😮 i am shocked 😛

ruby hill Sep 13, 2016, 8:10 PM

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I'm curious how the inventory will deal with something that is not OFP2_ManSkeleton. Curious also to see what other hardcoded stuff is in there. Otherwise I'll make this a thing. Beginning with hats.

crisp berry Sep 13, 2016, 8:11 PM

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mikero might have experience with non ofp2_manskeleton

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he left for Skype again though. doesnt like the new fancy chat tools

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(he hates Skype too though)

ruby hill Sep 13, 2016, 8:12 PM

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I've done plenty of animals before. No worries. Just wondering how the inventory systems will deal with this. 😄

crisp berry Sep 13, 2016, 8:13 PM

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the a3 one might have some hidden surprises indeed

ruby hill Sep 13, 2016, 8:17 PM

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I fear especially relating to ragdoll to run into dirty hardcoded shortcuts. 😄

crude arrow Sep 18, 2016, 3:10 AM

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Is there any documentation on how to get motion capture animations working with O2

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 9:22 AM

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just like any other character animation.

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You'll first have to retarget your mocap data to the arma3 puppet/actor. (should be in the sample files)

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then go via fbx2rtm

crude arrow Sep 18, 2016, 1:55 PM

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Cool, thanks Mondkalb

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 6:35 PM

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my experiments so far. :)
https://gfycat.com/NervousWellwornBug

crisp berry Sep 18, 2016, 6:46 PM

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very nice 👍 is this all animated? there is no physx simulation or do you use one of the vehicles?

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Walk anims are classic .rtm. Destruction is physX ragdoll.

crisp berry Sep 18, 2016, 6:48 PM

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quite impressive - how do you make the parts fall off?

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 6:48 PM

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By not having them jointed to the root bone.

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        {
            // No joints. let the bones all fall apart!
        };```

crisp berry Sep 18, 2016, 8:07 PM

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would this work also with the standard infantry model`?

zinc wadi Sep 18, 2016, 9:20 PM

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Pls, don't think about a GoreMod 😄

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 9:41 PM

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It could work with regular soldiers, but the model needs to be set up for it, which comes at a cost of visual fidelity in other areas.

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But yeh, totally possible.

regal dawn Sep 18, 2016, 10:15 PM

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Is there any documentation link for ragdog physX, last time i tried that with a custom skeleton model, couldn't get it to work

ruby hill Sep 18, 2016, 10:23 PM

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i dont think there is any.

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the configs are straightforward though.

deft fern Sep 19, 2016, 3:24 PM

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@ruby hill - sooo... if such lego guy is hit by car then he falls apart & magically get to the normal shape? if so, that's cool! 😄

strange abyss Sep 19, 2016, 7:17 PM

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Does anyone have timing for default pistol animation for model.cfg?

zenith token Sep 21, 2016, 12:43 PM

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ragdog? never heard of that 😄

vapid torrent Sep 21, 2016, 12:47 PM

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sarcasm much 😛

dawn forge Sep 21, 2016, 5:39 PM

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Would anyone know where a decent guide for making player animations for arma 3? Or vehicle animations?

desert raven Sep 21, 2016, 7:34 PM

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They are both totally different things @dawn forge .
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Animations
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_How_to_animate_a_model
These might get you started

dawn forge Sep 21, 2016, 7:36 PM

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thanks @desert raven

faint rune Sep 22, 2016, 7:06 PM

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Is it possible to create an animation where an object spawns in the anim and then disappears when it's over? E.g. creating something at a workbench and when the anim is played a hammer appears and is used in the anim

desert raven Sep 22, 2016, 8:32 PM

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Well in theory sure why not. For example It could part of the table, just hidden when not moving but that would require some nifty character placement and character animation syncing it you want someone to wield the hammer.

ruby hill Sep 22, 2016, 9:52 PM

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So all around I managed to get swappable heads work, along with lipsynch:

https://gfycat.com/PoliticalLazyArmyant

desert raven Sep 22, 2016, 10:01 PM

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very cool Mondkalb! saw that one too where the arms and legs fell off! Did not know it was possible in Arma. The mesh has to be separate though right for it to work it wont just cut a part off from a whole mesh?

ruby hill Sep 22, 2016, 10:06 PM

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Correct. The arms are separate from the torso, etc.

desert raven Sep 22, 2016, 10:26 PM

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hmm it might look pretty good on some robotics.

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Do they fall off only when the character dies or can they fall when its still alive?

idle charm Sep 23, 2016, 3:57 AM

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does anyone know what rtm I should use to test my rig in buldozer?

ruby hill Sep 23, 2016, 7:58 AM

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Go with a regular rifle walk cycle

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also, if you fancy, use a stand to prone transition anim

sturdy flame Sep 27, 2016, 10:36 AM

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@ruby hill Mate, how i can animate hands with paddle in canoe, same as it was works for bike in A2?

dense parrot Sep 28, 2016, 2:12 PM

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anyone think they can give me a hand?

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I'm currently making mods for DayZ Standalone.

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Sorry wrong room

floral basalt Sep 29, 2016, 8:29 AM

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Hi. Anyone can help with hand animation for weapons? Im trying to do custom hand animation for machete and have some troubles with this

sturdy flame Oct 2, 2016, 2:49 AM

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@dense parrot i can, i wsih too 😉 PM me 😃

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@floral basalt I can, PM me

zinc wadi Oct 2, 2016, 3:58 AM

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Whats the sense of a helping channel, if you do it by PM? Wanna charge money again?

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...

zenith token Oct 2, 2016, 3:19 PM

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of course... hes turning into the same parasite that the scummy part of life people are

dark hawk Oct 3, 2016, 4:04 AM

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is there an animation source for weapon attactment optics ? I.E.RCO/holo sswitching ?

drowsy nymph Oct 3, 2016, 10:02 AM

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no

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bipods are the only attachments that can be animated

sleek island Oct 3, 2016, 10:35 AM

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Still i wonder why BI didnt expand those anim sources on attachments

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plus still no reskin feature on them as well

zenith token Oct 3, 2016, 12:27 PM

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anim sources are very lacking, especially for vehicles

drowsy nymph Oct 3, 2016, 12:57 PM

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you can pretty much script your own sources for vehicles though. Weapons on the other hand are limited because there's no user animation at all

sleek island Oct 3, 2016, 12:57 PM

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ye i think you can most of things animate via source user

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but that doesnt work with guns sadly

zenith token Oct 3, 2016, 1:00 PM

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@drowsy nymph steering wheels and pedal anim for tanks, thrust animation for planes ... can you script that?

drowsy nymph Oct 3, 2016, 1:03 PM

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My scripting knowledge is too limited to know. But I assume there is a way to monitor the rate of turn for a vehicle and use that as a controller for the animation

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hell, at the moment my knowledge is bad enough that I can't figure out how to script one where the lights flip open when I turn them on

zenith token Oct 3, 2016, 1:14 PM

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but only by checking per frame, and then setting animation per frame- which is really bad

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that's like the digital watch in the vanilla civ car

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where having multiples drops frames by a bunch, just because they all have script controlled digital watch

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so no, continuous and analoge sources are not scriptable. Simple on/off, yeah sure.

sleek island Oct 3, 2016, 2:38 PM

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you cant reuse the same anims from cars to tank?

zenith token Oct 3, 2016, 2:41 PM

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you can, but they dont work

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steering wheels and pedals are nonfunctional for tankX

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and thrust source for planeX doesnt work either

sleek island Oct 3, 2016, 3:31 PM

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that sucks heh

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probably physx to blame?

zenith token Oct 3, 2016, 5:32 PM

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i dont see why... more like BIS not doing anything to rectify it

dawn forge Oct 3, 2016, 11:41 PM

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steering wheels and pedal anim for tanks, thrust animation for planes ... can you script that? I know BI does pedal movements with speed etc on the kart dlc as well, but thats a car so not sure if you can translate it over to tank/plane

zenith token Oct 4, 2016, 10:22 AM

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it doesnt

drowsy nymph Oct 4, 2016, 10:26 AM

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Guessing certain simulation types don't put out the data the same way that the animation source looks for as the controller

zenith token Oct 4, 2016, 10:49 AM

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they could just use the controll binds as source... which brings us back to BIS not doing anything about it

drowsy nymph Oct 4, 2016, 10:59 AM

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No good for me. I don't have an analogue keyboard 😃

zenith token Oct 4, 2016, 11:07 AM

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pft, noob... 😛

zenith token Oct 4, 2016, 11:32 AM

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it wouldnt matter, because digital keyboard is converted to analog with filtering (thrust for planes, steeringwheel for cars etc) and ramps

brittle isle Oct 8, 2016, 7:48 AM

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Hi gents, question:

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https://images-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNyVEOgyAMANC7cAAKhSnzNgQJmmlLaI0fy-4-3-_7mmscZjGbapcFYN2l8FitKI_cqm3M7ai572ILn5BVc9nOSirgpxR8eM0e4-SSewCGiP6NLmGMM4an4KIP8U22UzO_PwLpIro.mgFvmaucqqNRZGkvIZ0yk_V4Xng

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IS there any way to make his wrist look better?

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other than just moving the weapon forward?

drowsy nymph Oct 8, 2016, 12:32 PM

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@brittle isle Put the hand in a more neutral position and use the finger flexors to follow the grip angle of the stock, rather than rotating the entire palm. How I dealt with something similar on an M24 stock anyway: http://i.imgur.com/WA5XeoT.png

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Handanim IK is a right bitch to work around sometimes though

zenith token Oct 8, 2016, 12:47 PM

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still looks like broken wrist

drowsy nymph Oct 8, 2016, 12:52 PM

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it always will

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the weighing around the wrists is not the best, and neither is the IK system. It doesn't really like anything where the wrists isn't in-line with the forearm

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but with handanim you only really have control of the hand and not the forearm orientation

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The lower down the weapon the grip is, the better the wrist looks

desert raven Oct 8, 2016, 1:22 PM

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we could actually ask for hand anim IK curve control right!?

drowsy nymph Oct 8, 2016, 1:28 PM

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IK curve is for transition between the IK mask and the base man animation state during motion. It wouldn't solve the problem with wrists which would require expanding the handanim mask to include more of the arm

brittle isle Oct 8, 2016, 4:08 PM

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Thanks guys!

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Yeah @drowsy nymph I figured something like that by looking at the stock A3 rifles

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They did it that way as well

deft fern Oct 9, 2016, 9:12 AM

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imo rotating just rightHand & rightHandRing looks better since slightly prolonged thumb is less visible than broken wrist http://i.imgur.com/rGm213K.jpg

zenith token Oct 9, 2016, 12:07 PM

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yeah, looks alot more natural

sleek island Oct 9, 2016, 12:16 PM

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only if we could modify those hand anims properly and instantly see the result , instead you have to modify it in O2 or in whatever and then see it ingame if it works correctly

ruby hill Oct 9, 2016, 1:12 PM

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scripted IK targets would be nice...

zenith token Oct 9, 2016, 1:18 PM

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First i would prefer not having so much variation between stance anims ... just look how much the weapon moves back and forth from one stance to another. Iirc the lower stance version of standing is the worst. You can see how the mocap guy rolled his shoulders forward extremely to "make a small target", as opposed to neutral on all other stances. Makes the weapon clip into the body (or cause a huge gap in all other stances)

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i wonder how much work it would be to change the weapon bone pos and the shoulder rolling on a few of those rogue vanilla animations / how many anims you would have to edit

sleek island Oct 9, 2016, 1:20 PM

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reworking anything in that outdated animation tree is a nightmare

zenith token Oct 9, 2016, 1:20 PM

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i just mean adjusting, not entire rework

sleek island Oct 9, 2016, 1:20 PM

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ye when you adjust something in one anim that can break something in other

drowsy nymph Oct 9, 2016, 1:21 PM

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@deft fern the master, fixing my shit 😃

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looks good mate

zenith token Oct 9, 2016, 1:29 PM

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tbt, hands are a bitch to animate bone by bone...

quaint spade Oct 11, 2016, 2:36 PM

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hi guys just learnign animations for the first time, but im using maya for model making so is it possible to animate in maya and export it to arma?

zenith token Oct 11, 2016, 2:49 PM

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you can, if you have a rig/skeleton. Exporting the animated skeleton via FBX works.

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use the a3 character sample to base your maya rig/skeleton on

quaint spade Oct 11, 2016, 2:52 PM

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cheers x3kj, yer theres on old rig avalbile from arma (might still work)

zenith token Oct 11, 2016, 2:52 PM

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and remember that objectbuilder import ignores all bones without child bone - so you have to put an extra bone for all "end" bones

quaint spade Oct 11, 2016, 2:53 PM

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arr thanks worth noting

ruby hill Oct 13, 2016, 8:32 AM

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I'd recommend using FBX2RTM for converting your anims to .rtm. No need to go via objectbuilder.

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 8:38 PM

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is there a way to consrtain an object along an axis, like a piston?

drowsy nymph Oct 15, 2016, 8:40 PM

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in a model.cfg anim?

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you define the axis between a pair of memory points in the model

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 8:43 PM

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right for translation, i guess my problem is that the "piston" translates and rotates simultaneously. It's for the compression of a gear strut.

drowsy nymph Oct 15, 2016, 8:46 PM

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you can make the axis rotate

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it's a matter of how you set up the skeleton

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 8:47 PM

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Hm, the test_heli seems to also hint at a solution with the main gear on hte altSurface animation.. though it seems like kind of a cheat.

drowsy nymph Oct 15, 2016, 8:48 PM

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pretty much all aircraft use altradar source to do the gear piston extension on take-off

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but assuming you have a landing gear strut in two parts with the top part rotating and the bottom part moving up and down on the damper piston you set up the skeleton as something like "gear_f","", "gear_f_damper","gear_f",

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and have one rotation animation for the gear_f bone, and your translation anim for the gear_f_damper

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if the axis for the translation anim has its selection name e.g. gear_f_damper_axis, but is also in a gear_f selection, it will rotate with the rest of the landing gear assemley and gear_f_damper will translate along the axis as it rotates

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 8:58 PM

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I see. I'll give it a shot. Thanks

drowsy nymph Oct 15, 2016, 8:59 PM

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sorry, I cocked up the skeleton definition

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child goes before the parent and all bones are defined in pairs, so if a bone has no parent you use empty ""

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 9:02 PM

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Too bad Arma doesnt have constraints for less eye-balling of the variables

zinc hound Oct 15, 2016, 9:55 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/DMk0QVc.gif I think I figured it out.

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 6:46 AM

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Anybody that could help me to get rid off ArmA Wrists issue? i do my hand anims in Object builder with old school way by moving bones it works well just those wrists get fecked

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and its stupid that i cant see the result right away in OB

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any help will be appreciated

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 7:22 AM

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a quote from rayhard:
imo rotating just rightHand & rightHandRing looks better since slightly prolonged thumb is less visible than broken wrist http://i.imgur.com/rGm213K.jpg
and as comparison the pic from da12thMonkey before rayhard changed it:
http://i.imgur.com/WA5XeoT.png

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can't help more than that, no idea about anims...

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 7:25 AM

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thats the case with the rifle that has a regular stock with no pistol grip tho

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 8:54 AM

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you can try to ask hogthar how he did it, looks pretty nice here:
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/169309-design-mastery-weapons/?p=3046229

drowsy nymph Oct 17, 2016, 8:57 AM

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if it's the front grip, you want the hand turned slightly so that the palm is facing towards the player's body rather than facing to the side

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can see that in the anims hogthar did in the above thread

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the rear grip anim does look along similar lines to what reyhard suggested though - slant the hand so the wrist faces downwards and out rather than parallel to the ground and pointing dead ahead, and angle the grip by rotating rightHandRing

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 9:15 AM

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i will try asking hogthar how he did it

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because i did many tests and all failed

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all broken wrists

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:19 PM

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you do those hand anims in Object Builder? and with the A3 sample male ?

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always getting some differences in that

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ingame it looks different than in that sample

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so i really dont know

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:24 PM

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isn't it possible to view the animation in OB or at least in buldozer?

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:27 PM

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yes but i can see the proper result in buldozer but ingame it looks different

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:27 PM

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ok, ment you said something about not being able to see them earlier

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:28 PM

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my problem is that it doesnt show you the correct result with A3

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i am sure it would work with A2 heh

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so i would rather have a official animation rig on max

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instead messing with it OB

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:29 PM

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i'm just shooting into the dark here, but could it be that you use a diffrent sceleton than ingame?

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:29 PM

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well i use that BI provided in A3 samples

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so ...

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:31 PM

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you can only hope it is the same 😄

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:31 PM

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only solution is probably to use blender arma rig which i heard works good

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but i cant work in blender xD

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:32 PM

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but thats way above my paygrade... sry

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:32 PM

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it really pisses me off with all that outdated bs

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i would like to know what BI uses to create those hand anims but i am sure they dont use that OB to do that

regal dawn Oct 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

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at the very bottom of his OP he has some source animations files and a max rig:
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/163106-toadies-smallarms-and-animations-for-arma3/

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might be worth checking out

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

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i know there exist max rigs but those arent accurate neither

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they are mostly messy and old

zenith token Oct 17, 2016, 12:41 PM

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handpositions are just that. Only position of hand and fingers. Everything else in the rtm gets ignored. Arms are done by IK.

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 12:43 PM

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i already know that and that doesnt solve my issues with wrists neither

drowsy nymph Oct 17, 2016, 1:23 PM

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yeah but other tools wont solve it either since the viewport preview in unlikely to match whatever the game engine's IK calculates

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 1:28 PM

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that sucks

deft fern Oct 17, 2016, 1:40 PM

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can you post how your hand anim looks ingame now?

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 1:42 PM

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basically like this - http://www.armaholic.com/datas/users/mk18_4.jpg

deft fern Oct 17, 2016, 1:44 PM

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https://mega.nz/#!J8UEHDBA!BP8Dmp_uMen19jSx4JKBO52rWBfpAh-hEL5qGyDdcvI

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you can compare it to this

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you can also copy position of right hand only and paste it to your anim (rmb on anim window & select copy and then rmb on same box & copy over selection with only right hand selected in OB)

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 1:50 PM

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thanks , will do some science i hope this time the guy wont have broken hands

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 2:31 PM

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@deft fern one more thing how you preview these things? mainly when you want to get in proper pos with your weapon?

deft fern Oct 17, 2016, 2:33 PM

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I open some soldier mesh, then apply weapon anim & after that I can change weapon.p3d proxy to model I want

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 2:34 PM

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hmm ok

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ty

deft fern Oct 17, 2016, 2:35 PM

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http://imgur.com/a/oGJl4

sleek island Oct 17, 2016, 3:53 PM

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thanks reyhard , finally did some improvement

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👍

deft fern Oct 18, 2016, 1:06 PM

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cheers!

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 1:50 AM

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Does anyone use the blender tool box for animating?

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Specifically FHQ Arma Toolbox.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 11:03 AM

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yes, its great. You make your animation, select the rig/skeleton/armature, apply Arma object properties and set the frames you want to export and options you want and export via file-export-rtm.

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 11:33 AM

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What is the skeleton is custom?

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If*

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 11:36 AM

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Same thing but you will need to define it properly in the model.cfg

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also same rules apply. the first frame -0.5 must be in default pose and so on.

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but did toolbox actually do that automagically

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 11:50 AM

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Do you think you could give me a hand?

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I have no expertise with animations and very little experience with it as wel.

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Well*

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 11:56 AM

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Well that is kinda jumping into the deep end if you want to start with animations and get them in game right away.

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What are you planning?¨

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I would suggest you start with simple animation exercises if you dont yet know anything about it. There are quite many in youtube for that.

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You might even find a close example to what you want to do. Depending of course what it is.

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But the animation part is the easy one compared to the configurations

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But also if you are planning to do custom skeleton+animations for DayZ then the current configs A3 has don't apply

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 11:59 AM

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I've done enough to rig an armature and export an animation. I just never done it with arma.

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I'll need help with the config.

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I'm wanting to do a simple garage door animation.

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Not as simple as rotating because that can be done in the model.cfg

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:01 PM

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eh?

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no one uses .rtm for that

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what kind of door?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

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A garage door

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

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pictures

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garage door can be anything

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

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Like yours or mine.

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With the individual sections that all rotate and slide back into the garage.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:04 PM

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it can be done in model.cfg

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and in my opinion should

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and also for the sake of your sanity I hope you dont want the rolled door to be visible

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:08 PM

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yeah

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:08 PM

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/02/9d/e8/029de80cfe86162cea49d2d5caa77a63.jpg

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:08 PM

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i want it to be realistic

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no no no

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not the track and motor and all of that

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:09 PM

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http://www.oasisdoors.com/common/images/p4.jpg

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:11 PM

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That would work. The other would be fine too.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:13 PM

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I really wish you would have shown a picture before.. 😛 As said garage door can be anything. But for real it is just not worth it.

Hide the mechanism in a box or make the roll, and make it rotate but just compress the segmets, dont't roll them over.

I completely understand what you are thinking, but its just not worth it, except if your making garage door simulation game where you are suppose to stand still just watching the door roll up.

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:15 PM

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Did you play epoch for arma 2?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:15 PM

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nope

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or at least not so as I could say I've properly played it

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:18 PM

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sorry sorr

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sorry**

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my son needed me

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:20 PM

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oh no problem

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:20 PM

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anyway, in it they had garage doors that opened by simply rotating on an axis. They rotated outwards meaning you couldn't be close to the door as it opened and it rotated slowly. You could literally get killed just waiting for your door to open.

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As far as I know I can't get what I want accomplished by model.cfg

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Anyway, if I had only 6 bones in my armature how hard would the config be?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:24 PM

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well its not that its hard, but you would have to create also new cfgmoves config for just that door and setting that up just a door does not make sense.

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https://youtu.be/fTq4jc3L5LI?t=62

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I've done a door like this for example.

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and more complex moves are possible

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its just about chaining the bones right and timing them correctly

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:26 PM

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the only thing that would be in the model.cfg would be the bones, correct?

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and the cfgmoves would define open and closed?

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this is some of the stuff that i just dont know about in arma

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:27 PM

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I see 2 easy ways to do what you want:

make a box for the roll and just make the door segments go up and dissappera into the box as if they rolled up

2, if you want the roll to be visible just make endcaps for it so it does not show that the segments dont actually roll over it and then make the segments just go up and down

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And no its not that simple

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgMoves_Config_Reference

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this is what .rtm animation config has in it

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Sure you would not need everything in this. but there is also a lot that would need to be defined even if not in use as the engine looks up for all kinds of values even if the animation sequence does not need them

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:31 PM

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They have made it completely crazy haha.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:31 PM

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its for character animation

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:32 PM

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Most games just play an animation, it could have been a lot more simple if they had taken the time to do so.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:32 PM

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we'll perhaps. but this is what arma has

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:32 PM

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haha yeah. some of the things are just a hell of a workload.

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:34 PM

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well to make things simple you gotta think more game enviroment and less real physics and mechanics. Sure it would be cool for the segements to roll perfectly but is it needed?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:35 PM

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so if i defined my bones like this

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SkeletonBones[]=
{
"Bone1","",

};

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with bones 2-6 in as well

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then i could do it with a rotation animation

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or would my lower\upper bones need to inherit from the bone before them?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:38 PM

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well it depends how you want them to move.

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do you still want the segments to roll up?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:40 PM

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if it's possible

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:40 PM

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well it is.

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then you might want to keep the segment bones as separate

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 12:41 PM

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that's what i thought

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 12:41 PM

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and you will need more bones

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or maybe not

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https://awwapp.com/b/urbchdo6i/

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something like this

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your segment would have the door piece and a roll axis memorypoint

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and the segments move up and stop at the same point at the roll and then start the roll animation

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if you want them to roll over each other you will also need another translation that moves either the segment piece to proper offset or the whole axis+segement combo

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But I've gotta go do other things now, so this is as far as I can take you.

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 1:56 PM

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http://imgur.com/yZVwkgv

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for instance

zenith token Oct 19, 2016, 2:11 PM

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common thing that people want to make. I say: forget it. You need multiple animations (at least 4, but realistically 6-8) per section to make it look close to that in any shape or form

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the movements in the rotating section are nonlinear. If you only use 1 animation for the rotation there will be visible gaps.

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 2:39 PM

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actually i think i have it figured out

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:19 PM

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well maybe not haha

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:23 PM

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Possible: Yeah
BUT: Alot to do^^
You "just" have to bind some animations together. Like:
Move from Startpoint to first "turn"point (still at 0°), then slow down the anim until it reaches the point (adding the 90° turn animation), where it should be at this time, during its rotation to an 90° angle -> Move it slowly downwards, when reached the 90° -> Turn it down.
Now align it with all items :D

Tl;DR:
Too much effort needed, to make it look good 😄

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everything done in 1 AnimationSource

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:24 PM

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i thought it would work if i used the same source for the animation but for whatever reason instead or rotating and moving up it does something different

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instead of moving up to moves forward

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if that makes sense

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:25 PM

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Yeah, i think so

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:25 PM

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i can show you

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:25 PM

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Nah

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😄

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:25 PM

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okay

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SkeletonBones[]=
{
"Segment_1","",
"seg1_axis","Segment_1",
};

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:26 PM

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For now just start with a simple:

B C
A

Move object from C to B, then to A (after it reached B)

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(in 1 AnimSource)

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:26 PM

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class Segment_1_T
{
type="translationY";
source="Segment_1";
selection="seg1_axis";
axis="translation_axis";
memory="1";
minValue="0";
maxValue="1200";
offset0= "0";
offset1= "1200";
minPhase="0";
maxPhase="6";
};
class Segment_1_R
{
type="rotation";
angle0=0;
angle1=rad +90;
axis="seg1_axis";
memory=1;
minValue=0;
maxValue=6;
minPhase=0;
maxPhase=6;
source="Segment_1";
sourceAddress=0;
selection="Segment_1";
};

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i thought if the rotation axis and the object were joined that they would move together

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which they are

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but, it isnt working correctly

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are my SkeletonBones correct?

zinc hound Oct 19, 2016, 3:30 PM

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Is the parenting set up correctly?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:30 PM

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that's what i was wondering

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should it be "seg1_axis","Segment_1", or the other way around?

zinc hound Oct 19, 2016, 3:31 PM

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Well your showing the animation class

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class CFGSkeletons will have your bones in an array, if you want segment_1 parented to seg1_axis then it needs to show seg1_axis","segment_1"

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:33 PM

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Remember to add delayed startingpoints/times

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:33 PM

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so my parenting is correct then

zinc hound Oct 19, 2016, 3:34 PM

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so is seg1_axis in your memory LOD?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:35 PM

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yes

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the translation axis is too

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also the translation axis it to vertices, not sure if that matter or not

zinc hound Oct 19, 2016, 3:36 PM

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and also a selection in your visual LOD?

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:36 PM

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yeah

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:36 PM

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you use TranslationY which is for Y axis

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:36 PM

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i have it figured out

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:37 PM

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Use only Tranlsation and set up the direction with memorypoints

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:37 PM

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i reversed my parenting and it worked correctly

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 3:37 PM

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Might be a stupid question but i would like to know - it is possible to unbinarize rtm animation?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:37 PM

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not to my knowledge

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:38 PM

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I don't think so robert

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 3:38 PM

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that could save me a lot of time messing with doing animations lol

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:39 PM

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yeah it really would 😄

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:40 PM

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so i have it done with one segmate, now i need to come up with a formula to do it with about 5 more

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segment** haha

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:40 PM

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@sleek island you can with deRtm

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 3:41 PM

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never understood how that works

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:41 PM

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ive used derap

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didnt know there was a dertm

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mikero??

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:41 PM

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yep

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@sleek island you need a model.cfg with a skeleton defined and then you can define a rtm or a directory full of rtms to be debinarised

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:42 PM

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well thats nice

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:43 PM

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there comes a readme with it that explains everything as usual

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:43 PM

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so basicly you just need one of the skeletons from any of the soldiers

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so extract the model.cfg from any of the units and you should be fine

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 3:43 PM

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once i tried that and used A3 sample model,cfg of character but that didnt work out

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:44 PM

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what does it dertm to?

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bhv or something?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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.rtm

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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oh it just debins it

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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so i understood

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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yes debin

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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never heard a working converter for .rtm to some other format

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:45 PM

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i guess after that you could import into ob and then export

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 3:46 PM

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so if anybody can do that , can you send me the unbined MXM holding anim RTM ? 😄

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:47 PM

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do any of ob export options include the armature?

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:47 PM

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i can try it in the evening, but i can't promise you anyting i was just the monkey with orders and data from rayhard 😛

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:50 PM

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@sleek island You lazy .... 😄

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:52 PM

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cant find dertm

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 3:52 PM

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MikerosPBO Tools

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 3:52 PM

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as i have found, it's subscriber only

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 3:52 PM

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Paid version only

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 4:11 PM

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@zinc wadi how do i get the delayed startingpoints/times working correctly

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?

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:14 PM

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erm... i don't have A3-Tools installed anymore. Something with "start" or... no clue atm. Something in the model.cfg

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:15 PM

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minphase maxphase

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:15 PM

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Yep

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:15 PM

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lets say maxphase is 10

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:15 PM

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MainAnim starts at 0 until... idk. 100.
2nd Anim (Same Source, but a different Anim) starts at 50 for example.
Both end at 100.

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Faster 😄

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:15 PM

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indeed

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 4:16 PM

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that's what i thought

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:16 PM

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So:
Anim1: minphase = 0; maxphase = 10;
Anim2: minphase = 5; maxphase = 10;

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with the same Source

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 4:16 PM

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minPhase=0;
maxPhase=6;

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yeah gotya

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:16 PM

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and animPeriod

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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AnimPeriod was .cpp only, or?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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mm not sure which overrode the other

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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.cpp can "override" the AnimTime

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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animperiod is how long each phase takes, correct?

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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maybe leave it out of the model.cfg

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:17 PM

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(it basicly just sets the time, it needs going from 0 to 10)

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:18 PM

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its in seconds i believe

dense parrot Oct 19, 2016, 4:18 PM

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or how long the entire animation takes?

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it's the entire animation i believe

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:18 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 4:18 PM

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animPeriod = 0.00001; <-- usable

desert raven Oct 19, 2016, 4:18 PM

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also this is your friend

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 4:46 PM

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@sleek island do you have the .rtm filename?

sleek island Oct 19, 2016, 4:46 PM

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MX_dmr.rtm

zenith token Oct 19, 2016, 5:29 PM

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while you r at it Lappihuan, i could need all the FFV sitting rtms as well 😜

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 5:31 PM

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Filenames? 😄

zenith token Oct 19, 2016, 6:27 PM

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good question 😄 looking

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lol, thank god feminixtremists dont know how to mod... they would have a field day:
class CfgMovesWomen: CfgMovesBasic
{
class ManActions
{

zinc wadi Oct 19, 2016, 6:31 PM

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😄

zenith token Oct 19, 2016, 6:32 PM

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passenger_inside_1
passenger_inside_2
passenger_inside_3
passenger_bench_1
passenger_bench_2
passenger_bench_3
passenger_boat_1
passenger_boat_2
passenger_boat_3
passenger_boat_4

maybe there are more

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oh wait those are action names...

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\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_1aim1.rtm //idling
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_1aim.rtm //aiming
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_2aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_2aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_3aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_inside_3aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_1aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_1aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_2aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_2aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_3aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_bench_3aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_1aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_1aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_2aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_2aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_3aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_3aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_4aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\passenger_boat_4aim1.rtm

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\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_1aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_1aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_1aimlauncher.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_2aim.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_2aim1.rtm
\A3\cargoposes_F_heli\anim\vehicle_passenger_stand_2aimlauncher.rtm

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you could post them on the forum as well, i'm sure i wouldnt be the only one beeing thankfull for having them handy

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 7:05 PM

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Is it ok to do so since they are debined bis anims?

zenith token Oct 19, 2016, 7:09 PM

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debined anims are not considered "bad"

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otherwise there wouldnt be officially aknowledged tools for this

drowsy nymph Oct 19, 2016, 7:21 PM

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You used to be able to load binarised .rtms in O2 anyway and then export them unbinarised

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So I don't think it'd be frowned upon

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 7:23 PM

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perhaps i can just debin all rtms in \a3 and put them on my gdrive
will test that later

regal dawn Oct 19, 2016, 11:12 PM

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@zenith token 4500 rtm files filling up over time:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3USLs03hLF2dERZUWVGTHllMWM

zenith token Oct 20, 2016, 12:33 AM

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cool, thanks

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:35 AM

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Anyone know any decent animations that I can use for the MRAP gunner pos?

My objective is to lower the gunner so his head and shoulders are actually behind the armor

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I must have tried about 14 already 😦

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http://i.imgur.com/HFka6sR.jpg

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make me want to fall down

dense parrot Oct 20, 2016, 5:23 AM

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dude im pretty sure that has to do with the position of your proxy

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try lowering it

sleek island Oct 20, 2016, 8:19 AM

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@drowsy nymph Back in A2 it worked , i think but with A3 Object builder nope

dense parrot Oct 20, 2016, 8:52 AM

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shit i still have the a2 tools on my pc

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i can try to load one up

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my mistake, they must have been on one of my other drives

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can someone take a look at my model and maybe give me a hand?

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:24 PM

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@dense parrot lower the proxy in objectbuilder? I dont have source ;'(

dense parrot Oct 20, 2016, 4:25 PM

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thats bis work?

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:26 PM

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nope

dense parrot Oct 20, 2016, 4:26 PM

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oh, well hell

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:27 PM

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which is why I was trying to use replacement animations but nothing quiet worked

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Not even overly concerned about the hands being pefect on the gun, just dont want the gunner stupidly exposed

drowsy nymph Oct 20, 2016, 4:29 PM

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Don't we have a turn-in/turn-out action for that?

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:33 PM

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yes there is but cant use the gun turned in.

zenith token Oct 20, 2016, 4:33 PM

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learn how to make new static anims, gunther. it is not rocketscience.

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:34 PM

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I wonder if it would be better and possible to just allow usage of turret and gun while turned in (hiding behind armor)

drowsy nymph Oct 20, 2016, 4:34 PM

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so you can't just replace gunnerAction = "RHS_HMMWV_Gunner03"; gunnerInAction = "RHS_HMMWV_Gunner03_in"; with gunnerAction = "RHS_HMMWV_Gunner03_in"; gunnerInAction = "RHS_HMMWV_Gunner03_in";

cursive mulch Oct 20, 2016, 4:38 PM

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Yea I guess that works

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I guess it would be better to learn2anim tho

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 3:15 AM

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Whats with this "model.cfg cannot have externs" that PBOproject is throwing me? Why are you not allowed to inherit in model.cfg?
Is this just a "free" PboProject problem that subscribing will fix?

crisp berry Oct 22, 2016, 3:18 AM

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it can; probably either faulty inheritance setup of yours or wrong p drive setup/pboproject configuration

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but why post in this channel?

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 3:25 AM

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Because animations are done in the model.cfg?

crisp berry Oct 22, 2016, 3:35 AM

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fair point. its generally considered a config though

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 3:46 AM

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Also fair. I should've posted it there first but now I've already asked here and posting again in the config chat just feels like spamming to me
I don't want to be that guy

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 3:51 AM

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you can blame dwarden for that... he split it up in 4 channels. And yet its always the same people answering

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 4:09 AM

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so it really doesnt matter where you post in those 4 channels 😛

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 4:11 AM

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Yeah I suppose lol
Still having this issue though. My model.cfg pastebin: http://pastebin.com/YAxzyNmz
kju mentioned something about class Default not being defined but what would you do to solve that? The A3 Samples are garbage with this

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 4:13 AM

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just define your custom base. So class SWANO_WeaponBase { stuff}; And you put all that is in all the classes you currently inherit from into your SWANO_xx class

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 4:16 AM

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Oh okay 😄
Didn't know that was an option but makes sense in hindsight. Thanks a ton X3KJ and kju

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Mother of god it actually packed... lets see if the animation actually works now

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Nope lol but at least it packed so I can troubleshoot it now

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 5:27 AM

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So cruel. So tired. Gonna post this and go to bed, hopefully someone will have an answer when I wake up.
Trying to get the damn muzzle flashes to work now with no luck. Problem is they just don't appear at all, both when not shooting (common bug AFAIK) or when firing. Proxy is in place, selection is named "muzzleFlash" and here is the new model.cfg that actually packs now: http://hastebin.com/abukezuqac.scala
I'm sure its related somehow, but the trigger animation doesn't work either. SWANO_ConceptRifle is also the classname of the weapon I am using in-game and in config.cpp under cfgWeapons.
Night and thanks to anyone who helps while I'm away

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Oh and forgot to mention that selectionFireAnim = "muzzleFlash"; is defined as well in config.cpp under cfgWeapons. I know thats a common mistake too.

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 11:19 AM

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muzzleflash must also be in sections (in model.cfg animations) to be functional

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 1:55 PM

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@zenith token I'm not sure what you mean. It was defined in the CfgModels section, are you saying it needs to be duplicated like so:
class CfgModels
{
class SWANO_WeaponBase_anim
{
skeletonName = "SWANO_Weapon_skeleton";
sectionsInherit = "";
sections[] = {"muzzleFlash", "trigger"};

    class Animations
    {
        
        skeletonName = "SWANO_Weapon_skeleton";
        sectionsInherit = "";
        sections[] = {"muzzleFlash", "trigger"};

        class trigger {blah blah}...

?

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 2:15 PM

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class animation has no skeleton name, sections or section inherit

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it has only animation classes

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 2:18 PM

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Well I tried re-defining the skeleton and sections in Animations but that didn't have any effect unfortunately.

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Are the Samples files for this stuff out of date? Because a lot of what I'm doing differs from that quite abit

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 2:23 PM

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no? you just should not try to make up functionalities 😛

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class animation contains only animation classes. nothing else

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skeleton/sections belong in the parent class (swano_weaponbase_anim)

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 2:24 PM

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Yes I knew that and its already present, so what do you mean by "muzzleflash must also be in sections (in model.cfg animations) to be functional"

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 2:24 PM

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if it not in sections[] then the selectionFireanim in the config will do nothing

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 2:26 PM

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I know that too, and its defined both in the Cfgskeleton and in CfgModels

zenith token Oct 22, 2016, 2:28 PM

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ok i meant the top level of course, not the class animations. confusing statement is on me.

crude arrow Oct 22, 2016, 3:02 PM

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This makes me want to die

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Are there any model.cfg examples for weapons that actually work that I can look at? Unlike the A3 samples.

crisp berry Oct 22, 2016, 3:17 PM

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what exactly is the issue - still the inheritance or just muzzle not working?

#arma3_animation

```E:\kju\Programs\MikeroTools>DeRtmDos.exe -p -B z:\ww2\core_a\animationvehicles_1_a\kfz1\kfz1_gunner.rtm`

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