#linux_mac_branch | ARMA | Page 14

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 3:06 PM

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and now its working

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lmao

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 3:06 PM

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I'm going to restart after a driver update, maybe that fixes something

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 3:08 PM

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my launch options for this attempt

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-maxMem=6144 -maxVRam=6144 -skipIntro -world=empty```

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 3:08 PM

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okay well good luck, also if you need a server to test on there is this Invade & annex server

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name starts with [502th] or something like that

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 3:09 PM

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any mods?

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actually i'll be testing on the 7cav server

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 3:35 PM

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going to try -d3dNoMultiCB

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maybe that will do something

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 3:38 PM

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15 minutes

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damn, didn't work

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going to try the stuff the dude on reddit suggested

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if you get any improvements please shitpost them here

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 3:49 PM

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will do

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 4:07 PM

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-d3dNoMultiCB did not prevent any crashes

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 4:20 PM

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so did -noCB failed

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 4:21 PM

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going to try out gamemode

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with the default config

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 4:54 PM

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for some reason arma just crashes for me, if I let it freeze it will end it's process but leaving winedevice.exe open

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no logs though

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Hmm I'm also having that same problem with the BattlEye query timeout after 10-15 min on the server

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Hm I need someone to test PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1 PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 %command%

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I think it may be some sort of sync issue

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as proton doesn't like it when you run two programs at once

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Honestly, and unfortunately, from your logs, I'm willing to bet that it's more likely BattlEye's attempts to scan the other process's memory that are failing

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Because BattlEye likes to scan the memory of all processes that are running, not just ArmA, so I'd be willing to bet that it's not allowed to do that

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Or that the functionality might be unimplemented or at least limited in wine's ntoskrnl implementation

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Also, unless you have Valve's patched glibc AND their kernel patches applied, then FSYNC will be disabled by default for you

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since you kernel and glibc likely don't support the new futex multi-waits

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:11 PM

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someone does have it working

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we just need them to post their config for this thing

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Are we sure that he lasted past 15 minutes?

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Gamemode

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https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/cmc706/arma_3_multiplayer_with_battleeye/

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i mean

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why would they lie

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did you try with the default gamemode settings? @white sonnet

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oh you crashed

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 6:19 PM

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yeah I did but I still crashed

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I did get some info though

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my friends over at ArmaOnUnix said they always freeze when leaving the server

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so maybe battleeye is just disconnecting us

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:20 PM

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yeha

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i was told the server reported "Battleye timed out"

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when the crash happens

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:21 PM

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I crash on disconnect as well (which is honestly livable). What we need to figure out is what's causing BE to kick us (causing a disconnect, causing a crash)

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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https://pastebin.com/xEADTEEV

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@quasi orchid @white sonnet out of curiosity, are you running arma3battleye directly, or are you doing as that OP suggested and renaming arma3launcher -> arma3battleye

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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here's a pastebin from PROTON_LOGS

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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err, other way around, but you get it

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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i'm renaming battleye to launcher

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since that means I can just click from steam

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Ok, good. I'm running it from a shell script, and I was just making sure that wasn't the cause of the issue

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Have you tried just a blank gamemode config to see if that would do it for you?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 6:36 PM

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no haven't tried that

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Hey all, i'm the OP from the post on /r/linux_gaming

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Here's my gamemode.ini as requested

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https://pastebin.com/PHkHDS1z

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there's not much special going on there, I messed with some overclock settings but I don't actually think they work

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 6:42 PM

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thanks Kiwi, will try the configs

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Has anyone had any luck getting it working on here or do you all get the same issue?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 6:43 PM

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everyone I know that have tried it has the same issue with battleeye timing out

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tried a soup of launch parameters with no luck

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Powersave config?

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Lol

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:44 PM

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anyone know the path to the proton log you guys posted?

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I've legit not got anything beyond esync disabled, the pulse audio fix, and gamemode in there. I played for about 2 hours last night

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I'm on kernel 4.19.62-1

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@covert quiver powersave is the default gov, so it's what gamemode restores to when the game closes. If I'm not doing anything demanding, there's no sense in my cpu turboing up to 4+ghz and generating a load of heat

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desired gov is what gamemode uses when playing games

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I might have a stable setup, with only his CPU settings in gamemode, and then the "defaultgov" setting removed, and "desiredgov=performance"

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nvm. Literally just as I said it it crashed again. bollocks

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:51 PM

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what distro are you guys using and what's your kernel version?

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I'm on amd-staging-drm-next based off of 5.3-rc3 with a few additional patches of my own, but it's all graphics driver stuff, and I'm on arch

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I'm manjaro on kernel Linux 4.19.62-1-MANJARO

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I'm tempted to upgrade my kernel to 5.3 just to see if it breaks it 😛

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I would not be surprised if it's becaus of the kernel

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:57 PM

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LTS kernels ftw though, I used to keep the bleeding edge versions and always seemed to end up having to reinstall my system every few months. Since I stopped doing that I've noticed I get way less issues

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Are you sure that you were on a BattlEye-enabled server for more than like... 20 minutes

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that's the longest I've lasted

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 6:58 PM

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yep, was on a code four king of the hill server for ages

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I was dipping to 27ish fps at some points when there was a lot going on around me but apart from that it was totally fine

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are you launching it directly from steam after having renamed the exe or are you running the exe manually?

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:05 PM

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I'm running it manually. With ESYNC on, I get like 130fps on Olympus

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which rivals my windows performance

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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I don't know that it'd make much difference but I'm running it via steam with the renamed files

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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One of the other guys is doing that as well, and he's getting the crash too

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so that's not it

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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@stark basin You have to enable PROTON_LOGS

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and then it will appear in your home folder

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Be careful though, the timing out issue caused it to write thousands of characters per milisecond to the file for some reason

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I had a heccin 36.1 GB log file

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:07 PM

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I'll give it a go and see what we get

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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@stark basin When you have the game running, how many copies of winedevice.exe do you have

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and what does CPU usage look like

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 7:09 PM

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something about your config has some magic shit @stark basin

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i am taking a nap

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:09 PM

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3 winedevice.exe instances

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Any of them pinned at 100% CPU usage

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:11 PM

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core 3 is at 100% pretty much constantly yeah

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Hrm

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Oooooh

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have you guys had the battle eye installer show up at any point

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Yes. First time through

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Ahh okay shit then

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I thought maybe you had somehow not had tht

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:20 PM

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hmmm... I can't get proton logging to work

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:20 PM

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here's some screenshots of my game settings
https://imgur.com/a/jY1eP5I

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steam launch args: PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 gamemoderun %command%

trim ridge Aug 6, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Are you running this as root by any chance?

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I don't know anyone that runs their graphical environment as root, but that might explain it

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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No, definitely not running as root

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my user is a sudoer but I'd imagine you'll be the same and doubt it'd make a difference anyway

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trying to diff the first 4k lines of my log with the one posted on the reddit post

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the files don't play very well in diff tools since there's timestamps in a lot of places, could regex them out but from what I saw I can't really see much different. Here's my log incase anyone wants to take a crack at it
https://pastebin.com/NFc02PWs

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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just set up a timer before joining koth

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and it crashed exactly 15 minutes after joining

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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someone should set up a server we can all connect to and we'll see if it kicks us

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 7:56 PM

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we played recently 4.11-1 on a private server without a crash

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battleye wasnt enabled though

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so it is almost certainly because of BE

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:56 PM

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should try it with battle eye

gritty sage Aug 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Last time I played on windows I crashed 17 times in 2 hours

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🙄

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Maybe I should move over

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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yea arma 😄 but thats certainly not default behaviour

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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how did we derive that it was an memory access violation ?

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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i think my arma (on windows) crashed once during my last two months

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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has anyone got the logs of that happening?

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also if someone could try it on kernel 4.19.62-1 then we'd at least know if it's a kernel issue

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I'd upgrade but I don't want to lose whatever voodoo magic is making this work :p

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 8:21 PM

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im on 5.1.20 and experience crashes

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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newer kernels aren't always better and often come with stability issues

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I'm on a long term support kernel so I get bugfixes, security patches and performance updates but no new features

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Also timing myself on a koth server just now

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up at 21 minutes

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no crashes

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Dont downgrade your kernel if you know you need stuff from 5+ though, or if you're not confident in what oyu're doing

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:28 PM

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so it's the kernel?

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:28 PM

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I don't know, I'm suggesting someone with the know how to downgrade their kernel confidently should try on teh same version as me

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Hm there must be way around it, I can switch kernels in arch but there must be a way to choose kernels before starting up

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I think you can do it from grub if you've previously had it installed

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:32 PM

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good idea, I have grub installed

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:34 PM

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it's in advanced boot optiosn or something

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btu you need to have previously had that kernel installed

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also fun fact, alt tabbing has like a 30% chacne to crash your game 😛

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I'm on i3 so it's more like switching workspaces

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I never managed to get a setup I liked with i3 and steam

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Too many windows

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:37 PM

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well my setup is i3 gaps and I mostly work with terminal stuff (ranger ftw)

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okay I got 4.19.65

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close enough

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Really hope it works man

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:43 PM

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never did this before but at least there is the arch wiki

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:48 PM

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On the plus side, if none of this works for you guys, the fact we can actually load in and play on battleeye in any way at least shows that there's been a huge amount of progress made. I reckon we'll see official anticheat support within the next 6 months, possibly within the next 2 proton releases

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Yeah I'm happy with 15 minutes of golden time

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but I think BE support will be coming shortly

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 8:50 PM

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so what kernel version btw

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if we can verify that this is a solution then ill probably use it

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also what version specifically

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:51 PM

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linux-lts

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4.19.61 or 4.19.65

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I hope I don't have to mess around with my nvidia drivers for this kernel

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:52 PM

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should be fine if you're using dkms drivers

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if you're not then I have no idea what will happen

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you might have to reinstall

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Lets see what happens, here I go

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Stein was never heard from again

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Kiwi have you tried Planetside 2?

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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godspeed traveller

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I played it years ago when it was just like 6 months old

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it was decent back then but I hear it's a lot better now

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I meant with the BE developments

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 8:56 PM

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ahh no I've not tried on linux

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Well according to users on protonDB it used to not even launch, but now atleast i can get in and play for about minute or two before i get booted

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I also crash in arma which was why i was asking

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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how big is it?

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in terms of disk space

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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And if proton db is any indication the kernel might be the solution

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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I'm kinda low but if it's less than 15 or so I'll download it and give it a go

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:01 PM

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10 gbs or so

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Hmm my screen shot utillity isnt working but your report and another after are both on kernel 4.19

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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downloading it now but it'll take an hour or so to get it

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Thanks for testing that 😄

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I was going to test r6 siege but dont feel like downloading 70+ GB for a small test

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yeah I think someone on the reddit post I made mention they were gonna try that

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might be worth checking there tomorrow or something

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I'm doubtful, I don't really think that jsut because it works for one game it'll work for all of them

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Think they followed through and said it didnt work

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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ahh fair enough

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I'm alive!

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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did you crash?

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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But if it's kernel related

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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okay fingers crossed

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testing

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:05 PM

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what do you get if you run uname -srv

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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I did switch kernels

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output is Linux 4.19.61-1-lts

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:07 PM

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cool, just so we have a reference if this works ;P

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don't alt tab when you're in there btw, it can crash your game

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:08 PM

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lets see if my fps is better or worse with the kernel

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(I should probably compile my own kernels for that added boost)

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:09 PM

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honestly I don't fuck with stuff like that anymore, I just take an lts kernel and stick with it until the next one comes out.

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the number of times I've broken my os screwing around with kernels

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Dont forget to spray paint flames on your pc it's atleast another 3fps

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:10 PM

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it's rare that you end up even using the stuff you get in the newer kernels 😛

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I'm currently just using the shipped kernel setup that KDE neon gives, cause i dont touch that shit, for fear of exploding everything

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:12 PM

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it's generally fine but you can totally screw up your drivers and stuff

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I once ended up with no display driver, didn't even have nouveou to fall back on

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so I basically bricked my machine, couldnt' get wifi working again and jsut had to reinstall rather than mess about trying to recover it

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:14 PM

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just a btw I spawned on a roof in warlords

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:23 PM

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crashed

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:23 PM

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well bad news guys, it crashed

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:23 PM

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How does yours crash?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:24 PM

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same way as it always does, 15 minutes then freeze

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Ah just making sure it crashed just like mine

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Quick everyone assume kiwi is lying 😛

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Darn you caught me

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:25 PM

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maybe I should try and find the exact kernel you are using

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Do you get an error message or anything?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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no error message that I could tell

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:27 PM

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That sucks

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You're Nvidia right?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:28 PM

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yes

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latest

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(driver latest at least)

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Something's got to be different but I honestly have no idea what it could be

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:30 PM

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has to be something with manjaro then

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I'll check if I know anyone who is using manjaro to test it

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Are you doing anything specific when it crashes

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Like does it only happen in vehicles or anything like that?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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no it's completely random

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I should think a bit more in depth about this

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:32 PM

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and you only get it on multiplayer?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Yeah I can play for countless hours on singleplayer but only multiplayer has this issue

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and it seems very timed

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wait do you have a swap file?

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I actually don't

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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that could be it

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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hmmm

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:35 PM

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maybe battleeye can't read memory in swap

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:36 PM

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someone gave me an error earlier and it said it was a memory access violation

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I'm putting money there's a counter being updated somewhere and overflowing making you read invalid memory

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and for some reason it's not overflowing on mine

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that would explain why you always get like exactly 15 minutes

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:37 PM

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that could explain it

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can't exactly disable my swap file because of performance reasons

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So I'll see about making arma not use it

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:38 PM

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how much ram do you have?

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I've got 16gb and I've never actually seen the swap file being needed when I had one

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Just figured I'd rather have the 8gb of disk space as disk space

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Yeah only have 8 GB

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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ahh fair enough

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I have 16gb

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I'm going to try and run Arma without the swap anyway

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I don't even know how you do that 😛

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:40 PM

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my hard drive is old and slow so it might even be worth it

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also swapoff -a to disable it

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:41 PM

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ahh cool that's useful to know

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This is completely unrelated to arma 3 but if you're doign a lot of proton/wine stuff and notice things take ages to close or crash and you can't close them a really good alias is alias kaexe='killall -r .*.exe'

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just run kaexe and it kills all processes ending in .exe (so wine/proton ones)

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:42 PM

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That's a good one, adding it to zshrc

stark basin Aug 6, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I gotta head off for the night guys. Really sorry I couldn't get this working for you. If you find anything new keep me posted and I'll check in tomorrow

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See ya

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:45 PM

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bye

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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f

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:57 PM

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So i killed the two battleeye processes and my arma came back to life, with a battle eye query error

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Which makes sense but just documenting it 😄

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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we might have to wait for battleye to do it

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or proton update

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but we should keep trying if anything

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 9:58 PM

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I'm going to try and disable swap

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so far no crashes and it has been 13 minutes

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Stein you did email BE right?

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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No not yet, I just wanted to make sure this is working or not

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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~~if anything, atleast we are making noise about it~~

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Yea a bunch of "Users timing out on battleye" that'll get attention! 😄

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I mean, mainly the ARMA team

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We are showing interest and willingness to try

uneven pasture Aug 6, 2019, 10:02 PM

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We need more manjaro tests! If it works there, they have a implementation i want! 😛

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Aw arma crashed again

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let me see if I can make it crash one more time

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but this time no tabbing out

white sonnet Aug 6, 2019, 10:21 PM

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nope still didn't work

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I have a few more tricks I could use, I'll try again tomorrow

covert quiver Aug 6, 2019, 10:28 PM

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I also tried performance branch just for the hell of it. Didn't work

quasi orchid Aug 6, 2019, 10:49 PM

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https://pastebin.com/xEADTEEV

On a second note, many users raise concerns that using Proton with Battleye may cause bans. So far, nobody has been banned, but I am paranoid that this might be due to Battleye doing bans in waves in order to make it harder for cheaters to get away with their actions. Does Battleye do ban waves, or do the preliminary results of not getting banned prove that anyone working on getting this fully working will not receive bans?

Thanks,
Tactical Tux```

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i'm going for it

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@battleye

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most likely using the contact is just going to return me with a guy with a script who doesn't know what the hell I'm on about

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but I have to make an attempt, right?

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I found a useful debug command line argument;

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DXVK_HUD=memory

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there's more options for it, check here

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https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Alright I'm going to try a few things. First try and get the exact kernel kiwi is using, meaning I might have to download manjaro or get it off some site. Second try and compile my own kernel and see if that works, if all else fails I'll probably do some research on what's special about manjaro

quasi orchid Aug 7, 2019, 3:41 PM

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https://manjaro.org/

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that's the official site

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Well I did manage to find someone who has manjaro and they said it's not working for them either

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so we can rule out any kernel weirdness

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for now at least

uneven pasture Aug 7, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Quick grab the pitchforks! 😛

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I still want to try and use kiwi's launch args PULSE_LATENCY_MSEC=30 PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 gamemoderun %command%

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with the kernel on

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swap off

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if that doesn't work I heard there is something called fsync you can disable

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Hm I can't launch the game

quasi orchid Aug 7, 2019, 7:56 PM

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make sure proton is installed, make sure your files are renamed right, and i guess make sure gamemoderun is working @white sonnet

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 7:58 PM

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proton is alright, I suspect gamemode might be hanging

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@stark basin Well if it's not the kernel, swap or launch args, then it's probably something with to do with your prefix, if you followed a tutorial on setting proton up, a link to that tutorial would give much insight as to what is going on here

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 8:32 PM

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look what I found:

22:31:31: Starting BattlEye Service...
22:31:31: Launching game...
22:31:32: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.
22:31:32: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "Ç¬à»¨à®¼ä¥à©¼ï´à®å±à©¢ï±Ç¦ïµï¸°ï¹ï¸¹ï«ï¸à»à¯æ¥à©»ïà®çà©¾ïÇ´ïï¹ïï¸ïä¸àºá£à¥©ì ê®¢".

quasi orchid Aug 7, 2019, 8:32 PM

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yeah i've been seeing that

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LOL

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 8:33 PM

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sometimes you can see it with certain options enabled

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but most of the time the arma splash shows up before you can see this window

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I am almost sure this is something to do with the prefix

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would be interesting if kiwi can upload the prefix somewhere

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because that would answer a lot of questions

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also if you have 8 GB ram or more, disable swap

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my fps has never been so happy

white sonnet Aug 7, 2019, 8:54 PM

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alright switched the prefix setting from windows 7 to windows 10

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lets see what it does

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oh this is new

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22:57:23: Installing BattlEye Service...
22:57:24: Successfully installed BattlEye Service.

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so it installed correctly

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now it just keeps saying 22:58:30: Starting BattlEye Service...

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I'm going to leave it for a bit and see what it does

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22:58:30: Starting BattlEye Service...
23:02:56: Failed to initialize BattlEye Service: Driver Init Error (5).

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okay so arma keeps it's own logs, so yes it is a memory thing:
Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00000000

stark basin Aug 7, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Hey all, whoever asked me to test planetside 2 I can't even launch the game

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it just blackscreens for a couple mins then exits with no message

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anyone had luck with arma?

uneven pasture Aug 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Ah weird ran perfectly OOTB with proton minus the AC kick out

stark basin Aug 7, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Just had a brain wave

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I dunno if it'll help at all

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but it might be worth a go

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you can specify different memory allocators in the launch args for bohemia games, maybe one might fix your issue since it's a memory access violation

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Custom_Memory_Allocator#Commandline_parameter

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the default is malloc I think

uneven pasture Aug 7, 2019, 10:48 PM

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well there is a search order highest priority is tbb4malloc

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Im giving it a whirl with system

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Ah it just insta crashes

stark basin Aug 7, 2019, 10:53 PM

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maybe try with -hugepages too

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dunno

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I'm winging it here 😛

uneven pasture Aug 7, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I believe im testing with the system allocator so

white sonnet Aug 8, 2019, 7:29 AM

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We could try setting max memory args, but that memory error I searched up revealed this:
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/frequent-crashes-access-violation-0xc0000005.3315684/

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same 15 minute crash but on normal windows

white sonnet Aug 8, 2019, 9:33 AM

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end of rpt file:

Mods: A3;curator;kart;heli;mark;expansion;jets;argo;orange;tacops;tank;enoch
Version 1.94.145977
Fault time: 2019/08/08 10:54:35
Fault address:  00000000 00:00000000 Unknown module
file:     MP_Warlords_01_large_ver2
world:    Altis
=======================================================
note: Minidump has been generated into the file Profiles\arma3_x64_2019-08-08_10-38-05.mdmp

white sonnet Aug 8, 2019, 10:25 AM

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I did notice something quite odd, after joining a server lobby and then leaving battleeye prevents me from connecting to other games, saying that I need to restart the game

edit: does crash if I enter the game and then attempt to leave

stark basin Aug 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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I get that, it doesn't let me connect to another game if I exit a server

stark basin Aug 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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steam beta client has proton 4-11_2

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might be worth antoher go?

uneven pasture Aug 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Seems it only updates libraries

quasi orchid Aug 9, 2019, 1:01 AM

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also

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tested with Proton 4.13-2

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which is proton4-11 patches on wine 4.13

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same thing

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maybe I'll try getting a new version with proton-tkg

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July 5, 2019

The Wine development release 4.12 is now available.

What's new in this release:

    Still more DLLs are built as PE files by default.
    Support for Plug & Play device drivers.
    Better support for the Visual Studio remote debugger.
    More support for enumerating display devices.
    Various bug fixes.

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yeah i'll run proton-tkg and get a proton 4.13 build

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see how that fares

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this is how I got ACE and TFAR working originally so maybe it can give me some hope

quasi orchid Aug 9, 2019, 1:27 AM

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there's a fortnite fix that apparently made fortnite work at some point

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i agree

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building it rn

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if this performs any magic i'll share my cfg for proton-tkg

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also that is here:

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https://github.com/Tk-Glitch/PKGBUILDS/tree/master/proton-tkg

gritty sage Aug 9, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Better support for the Visual Studio remote debugger.
uhhhhh.. interesting. But if TFAR works then I don't need to do any fixing anyway 😄

quasi orchid Aug 9, 2019, 7:34 AM

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yeah it does

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but your going to have a fun time running it

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alias installts3plugin='WINEPREFIX="/mnt/windrive/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/107410/pfx" proton4.13 "/mnt/windrive/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/107410/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/TeamSpeak 3 Client/package_inst.exe"'```

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alias windowsteamspeak3='WINEPREFIX="/mnt/windrive/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/107410/pfx" proton4.13 "/mnt/windrive/SteamLibrary/steamapps/compatdata/107410/pfx/drive_c/Program Files/TeamSpeak 3 Client/ts3client_win64.exe"'

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alias proton4.13="/home/tacticaltux/.steam/root/compatibilitytools.d/Proton-4.13-2/dist/bin/wine"

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yeah editing .bashrc is going to be your best friend if you get ts3

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@gritty sage

gritty sage Aug 9, 2019, 7:42 AM

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do you happen to know if in-proton shared memory could communicate to native linux shared memory?

quasi orchid Aug 9, 2019, 7:55 AM

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nope lol

covert quiver Aug 9, 2019, 8:35 AM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32330293/how-to-share-memory-between-linux-program-and-windows-program-running-through-wi

white sonnet Aug 9, 2019, 8:38 AM

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So far I have tried everything except installing a new distro to try and get BE to work, so in hope that something breaks and suddenly starts working I'll compile my own kernel and see how that turns out

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and then I'm going to install every single extra library I can find for the wine/proton prefix, basically nuking it and see if anything works afterwards

hearty turtle Aug 9, 2019, 9:15 AM

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The guy that reported it working for more then 15 minutes said he uses gamemode: https://github.com/FeralInteractive/gamemode I haven't tried it, but I did play for 3 hours in the main campaign with no crashes, so Arma 3 through Proton in now more stable then it's Linux native port.

covert quiver Aug 9, 2019, 9:18 AM

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yea i use gamemode myself

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the crashes only seem to occur on battleye servers

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btw, just tested proton4.11-2 and the crashes are there too

white sonnet Aug 9, 2019, 10:29 AM

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I'm going to try the zen kernel for now, also I don't mean to spam here I'm just documenting what has been tried so far

white sonnet Aug 9, 2019, 2:57 PM

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nevermind, nvidia doesn't have drivers for the zen kernel

hearty turtle Aug 9, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Alright I just tested with gamemode on and it still crashed for me.

ashen knoll Aug 10, 2019, 5:26 AM

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@quasi orchid You are gay

quasi orchid Aug 10, 2019, 5:28 AM

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He's from my unit and I mentioned this channel

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lmao

hearty turtle Aug 10, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Well now for some reason when I join any server the game immediately crashes, I was going to check if it was per-server issue but when I tried a different server it just crashed, just checked battleeye and thankfully I'm not banned.

hearty turtle Aug 10, 2019, 5:51 AM

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OK, hmmm... you know it's odd, I just got into a game and the game crashed again, but this time I could hear people still talking in voice chat after the game stopped rendering but was still running in the background.... so I was still connected to the server it's just the render engine had crashed. I wonder if it's some graphical setting that's causing the issue, I will experiment further.

white sonnet Aug 10, 2019, 6:36 AM

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I never had that happen before so something must be different

white sonnet Aug 10, 2019, 10:56 AM

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@quasi orchid any luck so far with a custom proton build?

quasi orchid Aug 10, 2019, 11:26 AM

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no difference

white sonnet Aug 10, 2019, 11:42 AM

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@stark basin Can you upload your prefix somewhere so we can take a look at it?

hearty turtle Aug 10, 2019, 11:59 PM

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Here's a question for everyone, has anyone tried play on a non-king of the hill server? I started looking for the problem more generally and found this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/107410/discussions/0/619568793915456382/

uneven pasture Aug 11, 2019, 12:01 AM

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I've tried to play on multiple invade and annex servers

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The exact same issue arises when you try to leave a lobby

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Atleast it's similar behaviour

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It freezes up

hearty turtle Aug 11, 2019, 12:03 AM

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but could you stay in the server longer then 20 minutes?

uneven pasture Aug 11, 2019, 12:04 AM

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No

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It crashes at 15mins roughly

hearty turtle Aug 11, 2019, 12:04 AM

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Shoot, K thanks.

white sonnet Aug 11, 2019, 6:48 AM

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I timed it, it's exactly 15 minutes, I think the BE on the server cannot communicate with the clientside BE, so after failing to communicate for 15 minutes it kicks the player

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the freeze however is caused when you disconnect from a BE enabled server

hearty turtle Aug 11, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Yeah I was gonna time it too, my unscientific tests indicated it was exactly 15 minutes too.

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Just tested my memory, it checks out fine. I'm gonna see of I can upgrade to 16gigs as that was one thing I noticed the guy on reddit has who got it to work has that i dont.

white sonnet Aug 11, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Elegant Beef has 16 GB RAM and he still gets kicked so it's not that

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the problem is that something is preventing server-side BE from talking to client-side BE

uneven pasture Aug 11, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Well the freeze is related to the BE service probably not properly disabling, cause if you manually kill BE it doesnt crash arma

ashen knoll Aug 12, 2019, 5:37 AM

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@quasi orchid You are ultra gay

uneven pasture Aug 12, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Woah woah, that language isnt called for

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Atleast call him super mega ultra

hidden grail Aug 12, 2019, 6:05 AM

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actually I think there are rules against using such language, if some of the veterans or someone else sees it .... you will get a warning

gritty sage Aug 12, 2019, 7:15 AM

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@ashen knoll I would recommend you stop doing that. Not every moderator knows that you know eachother.

quasi orchid Aug 12, 2019, 8:40 AM

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lol

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:30 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/RqqmSSB.png

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It was a good run

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can't get it to start at all

covert quiver Aug 15, 2019, 8:35 PM

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report that stuff here too: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/30

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I'm gutted I was literally playing all last night with no issues

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Came home for some koth and bam

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nothing works

covert quiver Aug 15, 2019, 8:36 PM

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:/

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well to be fair, I think battleye will work soon enough without issues on proton

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:38 PM

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yeah it feels close

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I know some people had problems with freezing after 15 mins but it always worked for me

covert quiver Aug 15, 2019, 8:38 PM

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yea thats very weird to be honest

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that it worked for you

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i think just that battleye still has a mechanism that gets checked after 15 minutes and proton triggers it

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but why its working for you, no idea

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:40 PM

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has there been a proton update or something in the last couple days?

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I'm trying to work out if I've changed something

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 8:42 PM

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No new proton update

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Awwww maaaaan

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I don't know what I did

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Did you update packages? Touch anything in the prefix?

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I've run system updates but apart from that nada

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I haven't had a kernel or graphics driver update

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I guess it's possible some wine dependency got updated

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but I thought proton used it's own versions

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 8:49 PM

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0 clue

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I was under the assumption some library on your end was enabling it to work

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Time to look at all recently updated packages and guess which one reverted makes it work 😄

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:07 PM

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ohh no

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something much worse has happened

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So I got it working again

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got into a game...

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about 15 minutes later

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I freeze 😂

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I'm one of you now

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:09 PM

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doesnt this imply that it was a updated library then?

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:09 PM

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potentially

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Go hunt it down 😛

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:10 PM

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[2019-06-08 22:20] [ALPM] installed wine-staging (4.8-1)
[2019-06-08 22:23] [ALPM] installed wine-mono (4.8.3-1)
[2019-06-08 23:05] [ALPM] installed wine_gecko (2.47-2)
[2019-07-03 15:33] [ALPM] installed winetricks (20190615-1)

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those are the wine related things I've had updates for in the last while

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Wouldnt have any effect on proton

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system libraries would

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Atleast i think it would

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I know it was working yesterday

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but I also updated packages yesterday

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well technically today at like midnight

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:12 PM

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So after you knew it was working?

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:12 PM

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so you'd assume it would have to be something here

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Got a list of all the libraries you updated?

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:12 PM

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https://pastebin.com/gQ5Lzx8s

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nothing looks even slightly related...

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:13 PM

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All the libs look like KDE related

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So...

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:14 PM

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everyone switch to an old version of KDE? 😛

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:14 PM

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It'd have no reason to call the KDE libraries

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I know, just making light of the mystery

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each game on proton gets its own wine prefix, right?

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Yea

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steamlibrary/steamapps/compatdata

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Hmmm... I did install faudio fixes for skyrim a couple days ago

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but I definitely did it for that specific prefix

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:16 PM

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But it worked yesterday you said

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:16 PM

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so it probably isn't that

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yeah that too

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Just double checking these are all the updated packages, right?

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yeah

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:17 PM

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weird shit

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:18 PM

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my update prior to that was like 5 days ago

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which I know didn't break anything

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:19 PM

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No clue how annoying it'd be to revert to previous versions, but would be interesting to see

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lol I'm one of those people that clear the pacman cache after an update 😛

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I don' thave enough diskspace to keep old versions lying around

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I totally know what that means

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Ah

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:20 PM

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pacman keeps backups of old packages by default

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and unless you set up additional stuff to clear them they just stay forever

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Could regex these out and go through each installing the older version, but meh

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:20 PM

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I can never be bothered setting them up to get auto removed so I just manually run the clear cache command and nuke them after updates 😛

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Highly doubtful for those causing the change considering they're all KDE related packages

stark basin Aug 15, 2019, 9:23 PM

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can battle eye update independently of arma?

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I wonder if they can change things without pushing a full game update or something

uneven pasture Aug 15, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Arma could fetch a new version when launched

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But you would've got the same version when we had it

hearty turtle Aug 15, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Makes me think the thing to do is delete battle eye and reinstall over and over. This issue happens to some people on windows from time to time, they fix it by just deleting battle eye and reinstalling...

hearty turtle Aug 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Hey for anyone who it was working for, where you able to leave servers without the game crashing too?

uneven pasture Aug 16, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Kiwi was not capable of

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They're the only one here that has been capable of playing without crashing

hearty turtle Aug 16, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Shoot was hoping I could limit my testing to just leaving the server

white sonnet Aug 16, 2019, 9:59 AM

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So uninstall and reinstall spam

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that could work but I'm interested in what file BE is blocking

buoyant slate Aug 16, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I can still play KotH without crashing

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but it's not like my installation is special, because on Exile I'm always crashing after 15 minutes

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and I can leave KotH servers without crashing

white sonnet Aug 16, 2019, 12:43 PM

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are you sure the KotH server has BE enabled?

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I did think about this being a reason, maybe some servers work with linux battleye and some don't

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and maybe kiwi's test server got updated or something changed there

buoyant slate Aug 16, 2019, 1:40 PM

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I'm playing on armakoth.com so I'm pretty sure it has

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I crash there too, but really rarely

white sonnet Aug 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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How do you mean "rarely"? does it sometimes last longer than 15 mintues?

buoyant slate Aug 16, 2019, 3:10 PM

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it usually lasts longer than 15 minutes, like 9/10 times

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but once or two I crashed at 15 on this server

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there are servers where I always crash at 15 minutes mark no matter what

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so it may be server thing, but not necessarily

hearty turtle Aug 16, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I don't think there are any servers that run KOTH without battleye, and if their are they usually are all password protected. I will try the server Venom is on.

hearty turtle Aug 16, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Logged on to the armakoth.com server, and crashed after 15 minutes.

white sonnet Aug 16, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I'll do some of my own tests once arma finishes downloading, accidentally deleted it while testing stuff with steamcmd

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But hey, if it ends up making battleye work I'll share the command that deletes arma 😄

hearty turtle Aug 21, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Well I've pretty much given up at this point, Battle reinstall span doesn't seem to work and I've probably done it 20 times.

white sonnet Aug 22, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Got 17 minutes on the profiling branch

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2 minutes more than stable

hearty turtle Aug 25, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Yeah 17 minutes for me too now, I didn't change anything though.

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I'm on 20 mins guys in proton 4.11_3

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It came out today

white sonnet Aug 27, 2019, 9:36 PM

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only 20 mins @stark basin?

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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33 minutes

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Is it...

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Working?

white sonnet Aug 27, 2019, 9:39 PM

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oh man, it's 11:39 PM but I must test this

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guess I'll make some coffee

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Seems fine so far 🤞

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I'm almost tempted to spend some money on vehicles since they might not be a total waste 😂

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41 MINUTES

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This could be promising guys

white sonnet Aug 27, 2019, 9:47 PM

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yeah this could be good

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just moving to the stable branch

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Make su you're on the version of proton I said

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Could be that

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Or it could be battleeye that's updated

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Who knows

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 10:07 PM

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61 minutes

white sonnet Aug 27, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I think I crashed

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but I need to make sure since it didn't really crash in the way it normally does

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what server are you testing on? maybe I can join and see if I last longer there

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 10:19 PM

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add me on steam Kiwi332

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And you can join my game from there

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hwo did it crash?

stark basin Aug 27, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Well I'm gonna head off, but I managed 93 minutes. Didn't change servers or anything, all in one session

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https://imgur.com/a/o56Mram

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Keep us updated @white sonnet

white sonnet Aug 27, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Will do, no good news though, still crashing at the 17 minute mark

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not sure what I'm doing wrong but I have an idea

hearty turtle Aug 28, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Not working for me too, times out at 17 minutes, I'm gonna reinstall battleye a few times.

hidden grail Aug 28, 2019, 7:28 AM

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important question for you Kiwi, are you running Arma on linux ? 🙂

steep lotus Aug 28, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I'm on 20 mins guys in proton 4.11_3

I would assume so based on this :P

hidden grail Aug 28, 2019, 8:52 AM

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😄

white sonnet Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 AM

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not working for me, man I thought it would work this time

stark basin Aug 28, 2019, 9:19 AM

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@hidden grail of course 😂

white sonnet Aug 28, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Hm just curious, do you have SteamVR installed?

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I know it's far fetched but I have tried everything I could think of, except running BE before arma

stark basin Aug 28, 2019, 3:08 PM

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I don't have steam vr installed

quasi orchid Sep 11, 2019, 12:36 AM

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f

trim ridge Sep 13, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Still hanging at ~15min still

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for me, even tried switching to AMDVLK from RADV

covert quiver Sep 13, 2019, 5:52 PM

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yea thats probably the time battleye does a checkup of something

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which proton, currently, fails

trim ridge Sep 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Yea, but then it makes no sense that @stark basin is able to make it work

covert quiver Sep 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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maybe some weird battleye bug

trim ridge Sep 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Unfortunately, I can't try on his kernel version, becuase it's too old for my graphics card

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NOt exactly weird tbh, I'm surprised battleye works at all

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without privilege escalation

covert quiver Sep 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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i have no idea how battleye works, but id think battleye does a check when joining and then every 15 minutes

trim ridge Sep 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I mean I'm surprised that the BE kernel mode driver is able to do ANY of the things that it's supposed to be doing without privilege escalation

covert quiver Sep 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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@trim ridge could be battleye checking the checksum of proton. because custom built proton versions dont work

trim ridge Sep 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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which it definitely doesn't have unless proton has some polkit hack

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Custom-built versions don't even launch?

covert quiver Sep 13, 2019, 5:55 PM

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nope. at least for me.

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arma works, but starting with battleye doesnt

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i have high hopes for the next proton version, as the new wine version also has battleye fixes

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but manually building proton with the new wine version doesnt let you start battleye

quasi orchid Sep 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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i tried on a custom proton version? @covert quiver

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4.13 with proton-tkg

covert quiver Sep 14, 2019, 11:35 AM

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@quasi orchid can you play on BE servers with custom BE?

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battleye is giving me errors when I start the arma3battleye.exe

warm dune Sep 14, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Which Proton version?

covert quiver Sep 14, 2019, 12:13 PM

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4.15 ge

warm dune Sep 14, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Might be something with GE since I could get it to load (for 15-17 mins) on Valve's Proton 4.11 as well as Proton-TKG, but couldn't get it working with GE myself.

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Might try again since my last attempt was on 4.15-GE-1 but the last release of that fork is 4.15-GE-4

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Nah still won't launch with GloriousEggroll's fork but still opens fine with regular Proton 4.11.

covert quiver Sep 14, 2019, 12:55 PM

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try compiling proton yourself with wine 4.15 and report back

warm dune Sep 14, 2019, 1:02 PM

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I did that with tkg a few days ago and it got into BattlEye and crashed after 17 min

quasi orchid Sep 14, 2019, 2:48 PM

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ill see if theres any difference

hearty turtle Sep 15, 2019, 12:08 PM

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I tired the same kernel as Kiwi no luck there.

hearty turtle Sep 18, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Well I just tried on 4.11-5 no luck.

covert quiver Sep 18, 2019, 8:54 PM

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there were some BE related commits in wine4.15

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so well have to wait for proton 4.15-1

quasi orchid Sep 20, 2019, 5:20 AM

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someone should be able to build "proton 4.15"

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attempting it now with proton-tkg

quasi orchid Sep 20, 2019, 6:07 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/Ji1njhW

quasi orchid Sep 20, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Got stuck dealing with input issues. I have to wake up in 4 hours so I'll continue tomorrow

warm dune Sep 20, 2019, 7:05 AM

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The mouse movements being weird as you turn?

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If so then absolutely no idea why that's showing up again especially after it was fixed a year ago

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Noticed it too while doing tkg-4.16

quasi orchid Sep 20, 2019, 7:21 AM

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I couldn't click on anything in the menu @warm dune

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I could move my mouse and use my keyboard but mouse input didn't work at all

warm dune Sep 20, 2019, 7:22 AM

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I think that happened to me when _rawinput_fix was set to true

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for some reason

quasi orchid Sep 20, 2019, 7:31 AM

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i tried it at true and false

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going to rebuild in false and fuck w/ settings

warm dune Sep 20, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Might be worth making sure it's the same setting in both wine-tkg-git's settings as well as proton-tkg's customization config

clever juniper Sep 22, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Hi , guys. I want to use mods on my Mac, how can I do it without an Arma 3 launcher ?

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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You could set the launch arguments yourself if you really don't want to use any third-party launchers

clever juniper Sep 22, 2019, 6:37 AM

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But how to set the arguments ?

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 6:43 AM

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In Steam right-click the game -> Properties -> Set launch options

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Then add the mod argument at the end like -mod=mod1\;mod2\;mod3

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Mod folder is relative to the game folder

clever juniper Sep 22, 2019, 7:56 AM

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It doesn’t work . Which third-party launcher should I use on my 2017 MacBook Pro? Any suggestions?

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Arma 3 Unix Launcher is one of the few I know that works on Mac https://github.com/muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher/

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You'd have to build from source though

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But it does come with a reasonably convenient script for building on mac https://github.com/muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher/tree/mac_installer

clever juniper Sep 22, 2019, 9:10 AM

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I tried and failed, it is too complicated to build from source though.

I changed the launch options and I can see the mod icon. But after I clicked on the icon, nothing happened. How can I fix it?

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Mod folder path might be wrong or the mod requires a newer game version than the Mac port

covert quiver Sep 22, 2019, 10:00 AM

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The mac arma client is unsupported and you wont find any other players/servers unfortunately

clever juniper Sep 22, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Yes, I know that. But I just want to play custom campaign and mod in the editor

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Out of curiosity where is the mod folder and what is the launch argument you set?

covert quiver Sep 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

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@clever juniper just so you know, before you buy the game, but i guess you did already

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Using a absolute path should be possible for mods

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You can also just enable them in the extensions menue

warm dune Sep 22, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Absolute path is what my launcher does but I don't have mac support yet

covert quiver Sep 22, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Just copy/symlink the mods to the main arma folder and use the extension menue

quasi orchid Sep 24, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Anyone here getting memory leaks on the new steam UI?

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assuming thats what it is

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generally just vehement usage of memory

warm dune Sep 24, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Yeah it happens. Turn off "Enable GPU accelerated rendering in web views" in Settings -> Interface

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Chromium is 100% a stable web framework

quasi orchid Sep 24, 2019, 6:49 AM

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looking at my pc and seeing Steam use ~29 GB of memory isnt fun, hopefully this will fix it

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thanks

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(32 GB sys, 32 GB swap)

warm dune Sep 24, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Issue is being tracked on the steam-for-linux issue tracker btw https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/6502

hearty turtle Nov 9, 2019, 7:13 AM

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The mouse issue has been fixed in Proton 4.11-8 but no luck online still kick/crashing after 17 minutes.

stable wigeon Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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@hearty turtle not on all, for example i can play without problems on " GOGS WORLD EPOCH ALTIS|" 193.70.80.6:2302. BE is enabled on this server.

white sonnet Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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And this server uses battleye?

stable wigeon Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Yes

white sonnet Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Odd

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I wonder how the server is setup

stable wigeon Nov 9, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Even have infiSTAR (custom anticheat).

warm dune Nov 10, 2019, 1:01 AM

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For more than 17 minutes?

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That's pretty cool

covert quiver Nov 10, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Since infinistar is only server side, it would be a miracle if it would not work

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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@warm dune @covert quiver BE is enabled too not only infistar and i played without problems for more one hour.

covert quiver Nov 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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thats very interesting, seems like you have the same "issue" as the other guy has

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can you test on other servers too?

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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I will try

covert quiver Nov 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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that'd be great

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be sure to report on Proton Github Issues too

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Now im testing "[DE-PVE]Der Rentner Treff Epoch Altis x64" 89.163.213.50:2302 for more than 30 min and all ok.

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Now i will test server that i know was not working for me.

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 1:39 PM

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And yes this server is still not working: "Ignatz-Gaming Epoch by DoD Gaming |" 176.57.141.174:2302 . 17 min. and my A3 hangup. I tested 3 servers and 2 was working one not. Just checked another server: "[GER/EN]HD Energy|Epoch Altis|PVP|Tanks|" 24.134.49.217:2302 and my game hangup, played 17 min. 😕 So for now: 4 servers tested 2 was good.

covert quiver Nov 10, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Huh, thats weird

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@stark basin did you test on other servers too?

stable wigeon Nov 10, 2019, 5:02 PM

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😐

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 12:21 AM

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soooooo

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 1:27 AM

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is there any chance mac and linux get updated to the same as windows?

uneven pasture Nov 11, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Probably not

covert quiver Nov 11, 2019, 7:14 AM

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@magic shore we are on the same version as windows here on linux with proton

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Only Battleye is still not working for everyone

stable wigeon Nov 11, 2019, 11:15 AM

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@covert quiver If its working for me its working for everyone else.

covert quiver Nov 11, 2019, 11:19 AM

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not really,for the majority of us it doesnt and we get kicked after 17minutes from most servers (15 minutes before some updates ago)

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you can join the armaonunix discord, where most linux arma users are

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https://discord.gg/FKqzUH3

stable wigeon Nov 11, 2019, 11:28 AM

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You can check this 2 servers which was working for me: [DE-PVE]Der Rentner Treff Epoch Altis x64" 89.163.213.50:2302 and "GOGS WORLD EPOCH ALTIS|" 193.70.80.6:2302

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Thanks for invite i was already member.

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 6:35 PM

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im on mac but when i start Arma 3 from steam nothing shows up

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im still on 1.82 but windows is on 1.9 something

wise canyon Nov 11, 2019, 7:06 PM

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there are some issues with macOS Catalina, Steam and/or Games

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some/many games are not 64bit compatible, which Arma 3 should be

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and sometimes Steam doesn't detect that properly

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 9:06 PM

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so arma 3 should be updated to 1.9 but its not registering because of steam?

covert quiver Nov 11, 2019, 9:12 PM

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nope. MacOS still has the 182 version

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and since the official mac&linux port got discontinued a while ago, this'll very likely not change

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linux has moved on by using inofficial wrappers to play the latest version (proton)
but since something like that doesnt exists in mac, this wont work in mac

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 10:53 PM

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damn

magic shore Nov 11, 2019, 11:11 PM

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?

magic shore Nov 12, 2019, 12:36 AM

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wut

clever juniper Nov 12, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Anyone one here can not join multiplayer server ?
There are more then 270 multiplayer servers on the internet and I can not connect to anyone of them successfully.

Is it because I can not use my Mac to play with other window gamers on the internet?

steep lotus Nov 12, 2019, 12:37 PM

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It is because there are no servers running the 1.82 version of the game which the mac and linux ports are stuck at

steep lotus Nov 12, 2019, 2:58 PM

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and unfortunately proton doesn't work on mac @clever juniper

clever juniper Nov 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Ok

wise canyon Nov 12, 2019, 3:53 PM

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DXVK and Vulcan support for macOS is being worked on in the MoltenVK project, https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK/issues/203

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that's the biggest blocker for macOS support in Proton, https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/1344

clever juniper Nov 12, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Ok, I will download it. Have you ever downloaded anything from GitHub successfully ? I failed to download and use the arma 3 Mac launcher😩

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Anyway , thanks for the websites

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By the way, I know that the arma 3 development of Mac has been stoped and I hope that the 1.82 version would not be the last version of arma 3 for mac

uneven pasture Nov 12, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Considering what mac is doing to their own OS, it's becoming less and less viable for gaming

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Native vulkan support, and 32bit support is a very good method to ensure gaming support 😄

covert quiver Nov 12, 2019, 8:56 PM

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DXVK and Vulcan support for macOS is being worked on in the MoltenVK project, https://github.com/KhronosGroup/MoltenVK/issues/203

didnt knew that, sorry for the misinformation then!

is moltenVK a 1:1 translator or does it cost performance?

uneven pasture Nov 12, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Probably going to have some performance cost like dxvk

covert quiver Nov 13, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Yes, but this way its one more translation layer

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So technical the more layers exponential less fps

magic shore Nov 14, 2019, 12:58 AM

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what can i use to play arma 3 on mac on 1.96

uneven pasture Nov 14, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Nothing atm

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So bootcamp

covert quiver Nov 14, 2019, 6:38 AM

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@magic shore if you wanna play on normal servers either install windows or linux (be is still not working correctly on linux, but you can play on non-BE enabled servers)

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Or you say to your windows friends that they need to downgrade their arma

gritty sage Nov 14, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Or you say to your windows friends that they need to downgrade their arma
to a version they cannot even get anymore

covert quiver Nov 14, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Really?

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Compatibility branch is not working anymore?

gritty sage Nov 14, 2019, 11:01 AM

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it is

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but.. its a bit old now

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legacy branch on windows is always just previous game version

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we are like.. half a dozen versions away already

quasi orchid Nov 14, 2019, 11:07 AM

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@magic shore Maybe you will manage to install arma3 windows with PlayOnMac

magic shore Nov 14, 2019, 8:18 PM

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@quasi orchid where can i download it safely?

stable wigeon Nov 14, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Linux: Another server working without problems and with very good FPS: "ArmAKotH.com King of the Hill v13 - EU#1 Malden INFANTRY" 188.165.198.127:2302. No addons needed.😃 EDIT: I noticed that this server not need BattleEye LUL.

quasi orchid Nov 15, 2019, 1:09 AM

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@magic shore from official page : https://www.playonmac.com/en/

clever juniper Nov 15, 2019, 8:39 PM

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https://www.playonmac.com/en/supported_apps-1-0.html

This is the list of games of play on Mac. Not include Arma 3

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But it enable you to play some famous window AAA games on Mac , such as assassins creed
and call of duty.

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It is worth to download

quasi orchid Nov 15, 2019, 11:37 PM

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With PlayOnLinux you can install a non listed game (yep more complicate but...) so mabye it's possible too in POM

uneven pasture Nov 16, 2019, 3:05 AM

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There is no point to install arma3 through wine on a mac, it doesnt have dxvk so if it even launches the performance is going to be trash

clever juniper Nov 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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I know that the latest version of mac os, Catalina , does not support 32 bits games. Is Arma 3 a 32 bit game?

uneven pasture Nov 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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Shouldnt be

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If it is i shudder

magic shore Nov 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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can anyone message me how to play arma 3 on mac step by step i would be very grateful

uneven pasture Nov 16, 2019, 6:26 AM

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Download steam>download arma

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Can always install linux or windows using bootcamp

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Linux cant run on BE protected servers reliably

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Windows would probably just be windows, assuming BE works inside bootcamp

quasi orchid Nov 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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attempting to build proton again

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WINE 4.19

quasi orchid Nov 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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mv

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mb

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proton 4.20

quasi orchid Nov 16, 2019, 8:43 AM

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i think proton 4.20 or some version since 4.17 regressed

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im going to try 4.19

quasi orchid Nov 16, 2019, 9:15 AM

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nope

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4.19 has a battleye regression

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driver load error

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but it does seem to work fine w/o battleye

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Okay

wise canyon Nov 16, 2019, 11:08 AM

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@clever juniper the (old) ports are 64 bit, https://dev.arma3.com/ports

Arma 3

Experimental Ports | Arma 3

Experience true combat gameplay in a massive military sandbox. Authentic, diverse, open - Arma 3 sends you to war.

verbal nova Nov 17, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Profanity removed

quasi orchid Nov 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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what was the message @verbal nova

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i was pinged

verbal nova Nov 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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See the message above yours

uneven pasture Nov 17, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Tactical tux tried a high level tactic to report the mod... smart

quasi orchid Nov 21, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Clearly 5 billion IQ ARMA play /s

uneven pasture Nov 21, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Clearly

quasi orchid Nov 22, 2019, 12:19 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502667914265231362/647229076100349961/Screenshot_20191121_181713.png

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I'm doin the thing

uneven pasture Nov 22, 2019, 4:26 AM

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@quasi orchid trying to find the issue is "the thing"

quasi orchid Nov 22, 2019, 4:28 AM

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battleye gives error 1053

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and game gives another error

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if a bohemia dev can translate an application load error for me that'd be sick

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or tell me where to find things like that for battleye and arma

uneven pasture Nov 22, 2019, 7:39 AM

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My google foo shows

2nd start: 02:24:22: Starting BattlEye Service... 02:24:39: Failed to initialize BattlEye Service: Driver Load Error (1053).

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Source this old ass wine post
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/89v8ml/fortnite_works_with_wine_35/

molten pulsar Nov 22, 2019, 4:31 PM

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what are you trying to do? Has wine/proton ever allowed battleye to work?

uneven pasture Nov 23, 2019, 1:20 AM

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Well apparently some players are capable of playing arma on BE protected servers

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So yes it appears to work on some setups

stable wigeon Nov 23, 2019, 6:11 PM

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So can someone confirm that this servers not only working for me:

"GOGS WORLD EPOCH ALTIS|" 193.70.80.6:2302
2."[DE-PVE]Der Rentner Treff Epoch Altis x64" 89.163.213.50:2302
3."ArmAKotH.com King of the Hill v13 - EU#1 Malden INFANTRY" 188.165.198.127:2302. No addons needed.😃
4 "MGT Epoch Altis|BaseSpawn|BaseCams|Quad" 164.132.207.106:2302

stable wigeon Nov 23, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I noticed that this servers not need client (to run) BattleEye LUL (i see that this servers have BE).

stable wigeon Nov 23, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Looks like if you not get kicked from the server with message "BattlEye : Game restart required", game will not crash on this server with BE after 17 min, but it will work withot BE as well. (sorry for my very bad english)

clever juniper Nov 25, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Anyone here can not use the aircraft turret/ gunner camera to aim?
I can not control/ use/ move the turret camera .I can fly a drone and fire missiles . But I can not use my mouse to use/control the turret camera of plane, helicopter and uav. So I can not aim the targets
But I can use use the gunner camera of sea and land vehicle, include the camera of hunter and speedboat
(Sorry for my bad English)

molten pulsar Nov 25, 2019, 11:43 AM

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If you're the pilot then you can't control the camera and basically fire straight ahead, you'll need to be the actual gunner/copilot

clever juniper Nov 25, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I was the gunner of the uav

scenic sleet Nov 26, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Was the camera locked in a particular direction? Ctrl+T ?

quasi orchid Nov 30, 2019, 9:48 AM

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going to attempt running arma3battleye with proton4.21

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from

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https://github.com/TK-glitch/PKGBUILDS/releases

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frogs carry me to victory please

quasi orchid Nov 30, 2019, 10:35 AM

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hahah

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"battleye requests a restart"

stable wigeon Nov 30, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@quasi orchid servers reported by me are still working after last BE update.

quasi orchid Nov 30, 2019, 11:05 PM

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yeah, I'm just tryting to see if newer WINE versions make a difference

magic shore Dec 4, 2019, 4:50 AM

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im back

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can someone with good knowledge on how to play on arma 3 servers dm me

uneven pasture Dec 4, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Install with proton use the -nolauncher parameter and hit play

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You can join non BE protected servers

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If you mean on mac, good luck no one runs the unix build

stable wigeon Dec 5, 2019, 7:37 PM

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@magic shore you can play with BE on this servers:
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/226724-some-servers-working-with-battleye-on-linux/

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There must be more, i not tested all 😛

molten pulsar Dec 14, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Waaaaiiittt there's a -nolauncher option now? 😅

clever juniper Dec 14, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Guys, I want to use mods on mac, which file or folder should I put the mod files into? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KqB2OvocF3pGoitqyXyBhnjg-_n3Ylo_

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I want to download mods from this website, https://www.moddb.com/games/arma-3/downloads

rigid shore Dec 14, 2019, 10:51 AM

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Location doesn't really matter, since any mod which isn't coming from the Workshop need to be added to the Arma Launcher anyway.

clever juniper Dec 14, 2019, 11:00 AM

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ok , but is the github Mac launcher the only third party launcher that I can use on my Mac?

rigid shore Dec 14, 2019, 11:03 AM

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The one by muttleyxd is the one to go, because it supports most important stuff:

Workshop mods support (symlink to ~arma/!workshop)
Detect @mods (ArmA main dir)
Add mods from outside ArmA's dir (symlink)

Which should answer your question 😉

clever juniper Dec 15, 2019, 9:41 AM

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ok

covert quiver Dec 15, 2019, 9:33 PM

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proton works very well for almost anything besides battleye

gritty sage Dec 15, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I'd recommend you stop waiting for a updated Linux/Mac build or any news about it.

covert quiver Dec 16, 2019, 11:05 AM

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lol, but yes, proton is the only hope we have with Arma 3

quasi orchid Dec 18, 2019, 7:36 AM

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Sad because there's many people waiting for the new current update for a linux port.

That also means more people will play your game.

devout osprey Dec 20, 2019, 3:33 PM

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How to install windows version because linux client is not up to date

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anyone?

short tulip Dec 20, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Install Proton. Go into the properties and have it force using a Compatibility Tool.

devout osprey Dec 20, 2019, 3:50 PM

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ty

covert quiver Dec 20, 2019, 3:53 PM

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also use -noLauncher as startup parameter

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its in the properties too

devout osprey Dec 20, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I keep getting kicked from all of the servers because of battleye. Does anyone have a fix for this too?

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I found a post on reddit where the OP had renamed the BattleEye.exe to the launcher name which worked but they explained that you could get banned

short tulip Dec 20, 2019, 4:32 PM

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The only thing you can do is go find some servers that don't use BattleEye

devout osprey Dec 20, 2019, 4:32 PM

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There is literally none :P

gritty sage Dec 20, 2019, 4:33 PM

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there are literally hundreds

clever juniper Dec 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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But what kind of servers are we talking about? Is it possible for us to create a server or host a match for Mac and Linux gamers?

covert quiver Dec 21, 2019, 1:39 PM

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yea sure

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but most linux gamers migrated already to proton

quasi orchid Dec 21, 2019, 3:16 PM

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There are hundred of servers, but literally 10 playable, or perhaps 1 game per-30 minutes if you don't get kicked from the server... Or have to install mods in-order to play.

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And then have the mouse issue for proton, where if the game gets under a specific load, the aiming is clippy.

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I believe it's just needs a proton api update soon, like what they did to metal gear.

uneven pasture Dec 22, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Yea most players on linux are on proton so they dont have a deprecated old version, anyone can host a pw protected BE off server

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How about dont play on BE protected servers

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I've played hours of Arma3 on proton without issues

stable wigeon Dec 22, 2019, 3:09 PM

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@devout osprey you can play with BE disabled on ur side, on this servers (servers have it enabled): https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/226724-some-servers-working-with-battleye-on-linux/

stable wigeon Dec 23, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Just updated working servers list https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/226724-some-servers-working-with-battleye-on-linux/

stable wigeon Dec 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Just noticed that my post about working server(s) was removed from BI forum, without any message... why? I see this message: "Error code: 2F173/O"

gritty sage Dec 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Error code? Sounds like an error?

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It's there for me?

stable wigeon Dec 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/226724-some-servers-working-with-battleye-on-linux/ just click

gritty sage Dec 28, 2019, 11:13 PM

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I did. Looks fine here

stable wigeon Dec 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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So why was deleted?

gritty sage Dec 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I'm on phone and logged in as moderator tho.
It's not deleted

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OH!! It is. It's hidden

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Didn't see that at all

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Can't see reason on mobile @ashen dew

ashen dew Dec 29, 2019, 12:05 AM

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@gritty sage Some Server owners of the listed servers complained and requested the post to be removed until they resolved their issues with BE. (#6099)

@stable wigeon I apologize for doing so without a notifying you.

clever juniper Dec 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Guys, is there any video about how to install the Arma 3 unix launcher (mac) ?

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the github

rigid shore Dec 30, 2019, 4:26 PM

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reading documentation could work instead, beats a crappy video anyway

clever juniper Dec 31, 2019, 7:31 PM

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ok, but I have a question about the arma 3 unix lunacher, I am a mac user, after I install the script, where should I put these codes in to ? Should I open my terminal? git clone https://github.com/muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher.git
cd arma3-unix-launcher
mkdir build
cd build
cmake ..
make

wise canyon Dec 31, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yes

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those tools are probably not available unless you have xcode command line tools installed

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cmake probably needs to be installed separately

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the macOS install script takes care of it

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https://github.com/muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher/tree/mac_installer

GitHub

muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher

Launcher for Linux and Mac ArmA 3. Contribute to muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher development by creating an account on GitHub.

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it should do all required steps

clever juniper Jan 1, 2020, 6:38 AM

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I have already installed the launcher on my macbook successfully, but I can not use the launcher to move my mods to the Arma 3 game file in my external hard disk.

clever juniper Jan 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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So what should I do ?

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 9:02 PM

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hi, can somebody please help me, I have linux mint 19.3 and have been trying to get arma 3 to work on it, I got it setup for proton 11, I got -noLauncher in the startup options, Ive done tried switching arma3launcher.exe and arma3battleye.exe names around, I tried changing arma3launcher.exe and arma3_x64.exe names, i tried following a tutorial where it had me wine, protontricks, and unix arma 3 launcher and that didnt work, ive even tried using %command% things from the proton website

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just to be clear though when i hit the play button it launches the arma 3 logo where it does addons and other stuff, but after that goes away it just stops

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 9:21 PM

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@here

rigid shore Jan 10, 2020, 9:22 PM

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@ here doesn't work, and won't make people look faster 😉

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 9:22 PM

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well im at my breaking point

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ive been trying all day long

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@rigid shore can you help then?

rigid shore Jan 10, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I'm not a linux/mac user, so all I can do is forward you to https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105467328782692352/560414868969095168 or wait for someone who can answer you

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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wait steam only provides 4.11, so the latest is 4.16

covert quiver Jan 10, 2020, 10:12 PM

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@slow pawn doesnt sound like something i have encountered. you can come over to our armaonunix discord server. youll be more likely to get help there

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 10:15 PM

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i doubt it I couldnt even type there @covert quiver

steep lotus Jan 10, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Oh, we probably still have a setting to not allow talking in the first x minutes which was added when the server got raided by spam bots @slow pawn

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 10:39 PM

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ah

slow pawn Jan 10, 2020, 11:27 PM

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im about to give up hope at this point @steep lotus

sly rover Jan 11, 2020, 5:11 AM

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@slow pawn We need a lot more information. What gpu and graphics drivers are you using? Do you have Vulkan working otherwise? Did you see any interesting errors?

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 3:17 PM

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It’s a Radeon 7850 graphics card

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As far as drivers go I just put this in my grub and restarted the computer

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Posted image of what I put in #offtopic_hardware

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I don’t think I need vulken

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As far as errors I’ll post a image in the hardware offtooic chat

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I hope that information helps @sly rover

covert quiver Jan 11, 2020, 4:05 PM

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@slow pawn you need Vulkan for Proton.

But if the splashScreen shows up, this isnt the problem

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Do you have the amdgpu driver installed?

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Yes

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@covert quiver

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When I put -noLauncher I get the arma 3 initialization thing with the logo

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But without it I get a .net error or something I posted it in the off topic hardware

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 4:58 PM

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How does your launch options look?

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copy everything in launch options and paste it here

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also make sure that none of your exe's are renamed when using -noLauncher

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Right now it’s just -noLauncher

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I didn’t add anything else

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And none of my exe are renamed @white sonnet

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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make sure you have these two packages installed mesa-vulkan-drivers vulkan-utils

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there is a wiki in the pins here (mostly out of date though) but you could read through the FAQ section for some answers if you have any more issues

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:31 PM

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@white sonnet ok I’m done doing that

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Ok something is happening steam is now installing OpenGL Vulkan shaders

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Ah that should do it, looks like vulkan wasn't installed

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:37 PM

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So then I just use the -noLauncher and it should work

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 5:39 PM

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should work

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Ok, we shall se

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Yep that worked, THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! @white sonnet

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Your welcome, if you get any other issues or just want to chat about linux then come over to ArmaOnUnix, link is in the pinned wiki

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I tried being in that chat for a solid 2 hours and it didn’t unlock the ability to chat

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It says in the rules if you joined, then a hour latter you will be able to speak

white sonnet Jan 11, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Odd, maybe our bot went down or something else went wrong

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I can add you to the newcomer role manually if that's the case

slow pawn Jan 11, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Pls do, I’ll rejoin

quasi orchid Jan 11, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Until bohemia stops being racist with wine, and allow the passthrough like they did with blizzard like WoW, or Overwatch, and other games.
You simply can't play with BattlEye servers, and it works fine on my end with proton, but I still had the 4.11-10 update I believe.

sly rover Jan 11, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Heh, I figured it was Vulkan.

hasty falcon Jan 12, 2020, 2:34 AM

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May sound a bit dumb but, if I’m using the Linux port can I still join my lads on their servers? They’re all using windows, I’m the odd one out.

quasi orchid Jan 12, 2020, 4:32 AM

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The linux port is still outdated, and discontinued... So it needs the update to v1.94, current is like v1.87.

uneven pasture Jan 12, 2020, 4:33 AM

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It's nothing with bohemia being "racist against wine", blizzard anticheat runs on wine for overwatch, if it didnt run we'd not be capable of playing

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No one would allow wine specifically to run without anticheat, cause if any cheaters get wind of it, they'll flock there and just cause issues

covert quiver Jan 12, 2020, 9:58 AM

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@hasty falcon Not with the linux port, but you can force the usage of Steam's Proton and play with them this way.

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You need to find / host a server with battleye disabled though

hasty falcon Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 AM

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I’m aware of proton and it’s capabilities, thank you for enlightening me and I can proudly say that I’m a bit disappointed because Linux gaming is becoming more and more of a real thing yet most devs kind of brush it off from what I see. Once more, sincerely thank you for your replies.

uneven pasture Jan 13, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I highly doubt we are getting any special behaviour, I assume that it works fine on wine

quasi orchid Jan 13, 2020, 10:00 PM

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does anyone else get DX11 INVALID_ARG crashes?

magic shore Jan 14, 2020, 5:52 AM

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any news on macOS port or is does it still not exist

uneven pasture Jan 14, 2020, 6:02 AM

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It exists it's just behind massively

quasi orchid Jan 16, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Hey everyone, I loaded Arma 3 up on my MAC which meets all requirements, and the textures are all messes up, basically every texture just messes up especially for vehicles and grass as shown in the screenshot below
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633021259550031920/667466710537732127/image0.png

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Someone please help

night sinew Jan 16, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Looks like an antialiasing issue. Hardware might affect this if your drivers are up to date. Disable antialiasing and see if that changes anything

magic shore Jan 27, 2020, 4:42 AM

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nothing updated for mac im guessing

covert quiver Jan 27, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Official ports are deprecated. if you are not on linux, you are out of luck

night sinew Jan 28, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Make a hackintosh

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W/ Linux of course.

uneven pasture Jan 28, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Use elementary OS instead of macos

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Problem solved

covert quiver Feb 2, 2020, 12:50 PM

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hmm, never tried the -beservice parameter

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last time i heard, those servers just hadnt set up battleye correctly or something like that

stable wigeon Feb 2, 2020, 1:50 PM

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@quasi orchid A3 its not hangup after 17 min playing?

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Server IP?

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Give me server name where u playing with BE enabled.

stable wigeon Feb 2, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I used -usebe -beservice but its kicking me like always with message: "Battleye: game restart required".

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But i tried other server

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@quasi orchid are u see be service in ur process list?

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Ok, thx

covert quiver Feb 2, 2020, 7:44 PM

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@quasi orchid how much did you play?

Have you been able to play more than 17 minutes on a server?

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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!issuewarning @quasi orchid for profanity. Please see #rules for further information

wind pagodaBOT Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Done.

short tulip Feb 7, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I didn't see it either, but I think you should refer to rule 9

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Rule 9 tells you how to respond if you think you were improperly handled by a mod.

gritty sage Feb 7, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Can't show you something that was deleted...

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Once the DB comes back up, I will post more.

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I would have gladly shown TermNCR what I removed had he asked me directly.

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short tulip Feb 7, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Hmm, I see.

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:40 PM

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So to answer your question, even though you've rage quit because you didn't want to own up to your own mistakes.

Here is your "invisible" profanity.

short tulip Feb 7, 2020, 5:41 PM

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He's gone from the server now, though.

gritty sage Feb 7, 2020, 5:41 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I'm well aware, hence my message above. At this point I'm proving a point

gray cedar Feb 7, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Bravo good sir bravo

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:43 PM

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And the reason he left last time...

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short tulip Feb 7, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Ouch

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I'm really sick and tired of users playing the victim, hence the full public disclosure. Its not something I'd normally do.

short tulip Feb 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Yeah. I certainly know the feeling.

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So did you delete the offending message or did he?

verbal nova Feb 7, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I did

uneven pasture Feb 7, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Didnt realize this server was so heavy handed on profanity

uneven sphinx Feb 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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How do you go into 3rd person on a Mac keyboard?

sly rover Feb 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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You can always reassign the key

silk compass Feb 27, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Quick but deep question here: I was watching a video on Linux recently and started wondering does Arma run better on Linux?

covert quiver Feb 27, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Maybe on a shitty computer

short tulip Feb 27, 2020, 5:07 AM

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This isn't really a native port. It's the Windows version wrapped in a compatibility layer. That isn't good for performance.

bright oak Feb 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Has anyone ever tried GPU passthrough with Arma?

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to continue from #general_chat_arma
thank you for mentioning that, I completely forgot about those radio thingies.

But in terms of my original question, I wish to rephrase it. The final thing to know is how easy it is to create scripts/mods using linux.

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:24 PM

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scripts are the exact same on linux as on windows

bright oak Feb 28, 2020, 6:24 PM

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what if they reference filepaths?

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:25 PM

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they are game internal paths

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using backslash, and case insensitive

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:25 PM

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what external programs does TFAR use?

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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doesn't matter where you build the addon

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ive installed but never used it yet

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Teamspeak

bright oak Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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teamspeak

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Ah

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Oh that should be np to run on linux

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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yeah its not

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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they may even have a native client but i cant remember

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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but you just gotta get it in wine

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ah

bright oak Feb 28, 2020, 6:26 PM

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and the radio mods can communicate between two wine instances?

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(between arma and ts)

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I think thats the main issue

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I heard they don't you have to somehow get it into the same

tall burrow Feb 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Into the same wine 'instance' or something?

bright oak Feb 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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im not sure, never done it before

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fortunately I still have windows on dual boot so I can always play arma with my unit

quasi orchid Feb 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I'm thinking on buying Arma 3 soon, would a Mac Mini support it?

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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no

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atleast not besides a VERY old version

quasi orchid Feb 28, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Why would an old version support it?

gritty sage Feb 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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because there is a mac port of arma

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but its development was stopped, so you only have that very old version

white sonnet Feb 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah I wouldn't advise picking up Arma 3 for mac, as proton doesn't work on mac (or at least very badly)

quasi orchid Feb 28, 2020, 10:29 PM

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How old?

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When was it stopped?

white sonnet Feb 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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At least two years ago iirc

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Also, TFAR and I think ACRE works on linux, but you have to fiddle around getting it to run and to communicate on the same instance, I have made an install script for TFAR+TeamSpeak but it's really too outdated so I wouldn't really trust it

quasi orchid Feb 28, 2020, 11:54 PM

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I mainly want to have a general Arma experience.

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Play it, know how it is, I heard and watched videos saying it was an awsome game.

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At least for the capaign.

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Should I buy it?

quasi orchid Feb 29, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Is the workshop compatible with Mac?

gritty sage Feb 29, 2020, 3:02 PM

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workshop works, but you gotta install the mods manually

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from numbered folders