#linux_mac_branch | ARMA | Page 5

scenic sleet Nov 21, 2016, 8:55 AM

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see the ArmaOnUnix group on Steam

scenic sleet Nov 21, 2016, 9:45 AM

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https://discord.gg/kBdcxvN

steep sphinx Nov 22, 2016, 9:22 PM

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@hidden grail when you get back, by the directory do you mean the addons file or something else?

hidden grail Nov 22, 2016, 10:18 PM

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no, I mean the arma 3 directory

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addons is located in the arma 3 directory (like some_path/arma 3/addons)

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you should put it right into arma 3

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@steep sphinx

steep sphinx Nov 22, 2016, 10:26 PM

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yeah I'm using mac, but I was looking around for another Arma3 folder but that was the only one

hidden grail Nov 22, 2016, 10:38 PM

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did you find it in the steam folder ?

steep sphinx Nov 22, 2016, 11:58 PM

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the Steam/steamapps/common/? I found it there

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also was there a massive Arma 3 update this morning?

scenic sleet Nov 23, 2016, 9:17 AM

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no

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no update this morning

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or yesterday morning

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sadly

hidden grail Nov 23, 2016, 3:39 PM

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😥

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@steep sphinx yeah, thats the one

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btw from time to time some people have Arma updates too, but it does nothing 😕

scenic sleet Nov 23, 2016, 3:51 PM

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it's related to workshop somehow and seems to be an issue on Steam's end

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happened for other workshop games, but not as much as it does for Arma - maybe because everyone tends to have much more workshop content for Arma installed

hidden grail Nov 23, 2016, 4:02 PM

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yeah, that might be the issue

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I unsubbed all the arma mods some time ago, cuz it was like 25GB of mods that I could not use 😑

scenic sleet Nov 23, 2016, 4:36 PM

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all the mods I have installed work OK, what doesn't work are a lot of single player scenarios - they crash the game - and some terrains don't work either it's like there's a dense blue fog and you can only see the ground at your feet.

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main issue with workshop in general is the lack of automatic dependency installation - i.e. you want to play a scenario which depends on mods you don't have installed but Steam won't automatically select them for install, so you have a pretty tedious task of manually installing the required mods, any mods those mods require and so on

hidden grail Nov 23, 2016, 4:53 PM

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with the previous version of arma I had problems with a lot of mods

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now it seems mostly fine, but the newest RHS seems to be buggy on linux and also Exile does not work with arma unless you use some really old version

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because of that best thing would be to create a repo/cloud drive with linux/mac compatible mods and create a launcher that would automatically download needed mods

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like http://a3launcher.com/ for windows

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cuz a lot of players does not know how to install mods, ... I have already helped like 40 people to get the mods running and it was pretty much a painfull experience 😫

scenic sleet Nov 23, 2016, 5:49 PM

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auto installation of stuff like mods is something I was going to look at doing if I work on a launcher

hidden grail Nov 23, 2016, 6:01 PM

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😃

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I have been working with Ysblokje on a launcher (mostly him, I just created a Qt GUI and some stuff that he deleted :D) if you would like to look at it, it might help u

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https://bitbucket.org/ysblokje/arma3launcher

hidden grail Nov 23, 2016, 8:33 PM

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@steep sphinx if you still have problems with the mods you might have a look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLGmahxF4ZQ&feature=youtu.be

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you can use your mods instead of course

steep sphinx Nov 24, 2016, 2:48 AM

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there was another video that was bit more helpful for me which I'm doing atm

steep sphinx Nov 25, 2016, 12:15 AM

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hello again

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@hidden grail I did the thing in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv3p2z_Q5LE) and now it says "Addon 'CUP_TrackedVehicles_Bulldog' requires addon 'A3_Sounds_F_Vehicles'" and "Bad version 71 in p3d file 'cup\airvehicles\cup_airvehicles_staticline\cpbrasvestlo.p4d'" do you know what these mean?

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I mean I know what they mean but I'm not sure how to get 'A3_Sounds_F_Vehicles" and get a good version of the second thing

hidden grail Nov 25, 2016, 10:53 AM

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I dont know how to get it, maybe your version of CUP is not working with our old version of arma

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it might be missing some parts

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I havent tried CUP for a longer time, so I cant really tell

scenic sleet Nov 25, 2016, 4:19 PM

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@left fog any news on the next linux/mac (but mostly linux) build?

strange mango Nov 26, 2016, 4:25 AM

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its a newer p3d version not supported by the older linux build

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you can get an older CUP build from withSIX

scenic sleet Nov 26, 2016, 10:19 AM

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though hopefully we'll get the 1.62 build very soon and you won't need to get the older CUPs

steep sphinx Nov 26, 2016, 9:26 PM

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yeah

quasi orchid Nov 30, 2016, 3:42 AM

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Hey guys im new and looking for some firends to make anyone on mac arma4

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3

hidden grail Nov 30, 2016, 8:22 AM

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hey @quasi orchid , you can join our ArmaOnUnix group https://discord.gg/p28Ra36

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we are Arma players playing on Linux and Mac, you can find someone there

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I am also owner of a server with regular players, so you can check it out

scenic sleet Dec 1, 2016, 5:36 PM

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if you see a 5GB update available for Linux, it's NOT an updated version, still 1.58. My guess is that someone screwed up.

worn whale Dec 1, 2016, 8:40 PM

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Hello anybody on?

hidden grail Dec 1, 2016, 9:11 PM

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yes we are here 😃

steep sphinx Dec 2, 2016, 3:05 AM

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oh no nvm

scenic sleet Dec 7, 2016, 8:52 PM

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@left fog Is there one big issue holding up the next port release, or is it lots of things?

hidden grail Dec 7, 2016, 9:24 PM

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@scenic sleet has he ever replied ?

scenic sleet Dec 8, 2016, 9:23 AM

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in the past yes, not recently though

grim plinth Dec 10, 2016, 9:57 PM

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yall bois alive

hidden grail Dec 11, 2016, 8:07 AM

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of course, we are a thriving community 😃

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even with an old arma version

scenic sleet Dec 11, 2016, 11:43 AM

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speaking of which, won't be playing this weekend, have to work 😦

dry venture Dec 11, 2016, 2:57 PM

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anyone tried to capture arma 3 with obs? especialy on mac with game capture (syphon)? how was it? can it cause BE ban as it's implementing code?

hidden grail Dec 11, 2016, 3:01 PM

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@scenic sleet you should reassess your priorities 😄

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@dry venture I only used OBS in linux and it worked, but I didnt join any BE protected servers, so I dont know

quasi orchid Dec 13, 2016, 7:25 PM

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https://steamdb.info/app/107410/depots/?branch=port_164 was updated 4 days ago, but arma 3 updated from 1.58 to 1.58 today with 2GB patch?

hidden grail Dec 13, 2016, 7:31 PM

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port 1.64 ?

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ehm

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thats really interesting

quasi orchid Dec 13, 2016, 7:34 PM

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@left fog Creator of Banished was also criticized for not using SDL http://wiki.libsdl.org/APIByCategory ... for example Dota 2 is built on SDL2

molten pulsar Dec 13, 2016, 7:35 PM

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^ hm? how random of you 😛

quasi orchid Dec 13, 2016, 7:36 PM

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I'm just replying to a comment by dwarden 2 months ago, but since I don't know how to Quote on discord...

molten pulsar Dec 13, 2016, 7:36 PM

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ah

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you can't 😛

left fog Dec 13, 2016, 8:14 PM

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yet

hidden grail Dec 13, 2016, 8:24 PM

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what about the port @left fog ? Will we get 1.64 or is it a secret Christmas gift ?

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🎁

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🎄

left fog Dec 13, 2016, 8:34 PM

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㊙

hidden grail Dec 13, 2016, 8:38 PM

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👽

dry venture Dec 13, 2016, 10:55 PM

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😮

sly rover Dec 16, 2016, 2:36 AM

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This ㊙ interests me

dry venture Dec 16, 2016, 9:05 AM

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㊙ = New Year Present KreyGasm

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p.s. we need some smiles on this server

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 11:04 AM

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😃

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New year ? I hope for next Tuesday Sitrep

molten pulsar Dec 16, 2016, 11:27 AM

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I really wish that the ports were closer to the non-ports version

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I'd be able to finally move back to Linux only 😃

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 11:34 AM

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@molten pulsar is 1.64 close enough for you ?

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I think bigger concern for you would be the number of players on servers

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there isnt many players at once on a server compared to windows

molten pulsar Dec 16, 2016, 11:36 AM

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that would also be solved once versions come closer 😃

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but my reasons are mostly mod development related

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 11:37 AM

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arma tools are atm windows only 😦

molten pulsar Dec 16, 2016, 11:38 AM

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not really, mikero's tools are linux as well

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but all the modeling stuff is I guess, not into that though 😄

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 11:39 AM

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yeah, but I am not sure if they work correctly, I had problems packing some .pbo files with it

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I mean with Mikero's tools

molten pulsar Dec 16, 2016, 11:44 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ haven't tried any of that yet because of the versioning stuff 😁

left fog Dec 16, 2016, 11:53 AM

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patience padawans 😀

molten pulsar Dec 16, 2016, 12:06 PM

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☮

scenic sleet Dec 16, 2016, 12:08 PM

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🤞

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 12:24 PM

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dont worry Yodo, we still have faith 😃

scenic sleet Dec 16, 2016, 1:17 PM

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has anyone examined whether startup parameters like -enableHT have any effect with the linux port?

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(https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Startup_Parameters#Performance)

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I don't really have any issues with performance generally, except for the 5fps bug, just curious

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 1:29 PM

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I am using it but I think hyperthreading works also without putting it there

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just tested it, -enableHT has no effect

sly rover Dec 16, 2016, 3:34 PM

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I've yet to get binary mods working on Linux

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I don't think the client supports it

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But if they ever do, I may start porting those which are open source.

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Or attempting to, at least. I am no expert.

left fog Dec 16, 2016, 4:21 PM

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@scenic sleet wait ... checking ⏲ ... gj ... this gunna be interesting ...

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so it's broken on linux 😉 and may even cause in some cause only 1,4,8 core to be used skipping HT ... fix wip

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and also let's improve it on Windows too when we on it 😉

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 4:40 PM

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@sly rover do you mean the .bin mods ?

sly rover Dec 16, 2016, 5:12 PM

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No idea what .bin mods even are

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But I mean libraries that extend Arma

hidden grail Dec 16, 2016, 5:35 PM

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me neither and thats a problem, I found a King of the Hill like mission on steamworkshop, but I dont know how to use it on dedicated server as it works for me only in the in-game server

scenic sleet Dec 17, 2016, 9:14 AM

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@left fog cool 😃

pure vault Dec 17, 2016, 12:16 PM

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i also had the feeling that -enableHT never had any effect

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crossingfingers 😃

brave ocean Dec 19, 2016, 12:26 AM

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any ETA for a GNU/Linux 1.66?

sly rover Dec 19, 2016, 1:18 AM

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That is super secret

scenic sleet Dec 19, 2016, 9:58 AM

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Let's hope it's not so secret that we can never know about it 😉

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:10 PM

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there were some changes in the linux steam depot earlier ... preparatory work for an update, or just maintenance?

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Updated 3 hours ago - https://steamdb.info/app/107410/depots/?branch=porttest

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:39 PM

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no maintenance, please 🙃

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:40 PM

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well 1.64 is being staged in the porttest branch ... so it's close, but whether it's today or just sometime in the next 3 weeks ... that's anyone's guess

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:41 PM

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we want it as 🎁 under the 🎄

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:41 PM

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I don't regularly check steamdb so maybe the level of activity we're seeing today is normal and has been happening regularly for weeks

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:42 PM

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the branch port_164 was upgraded yesterday and thats not usual

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:42 PM

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the porttest branch does have the following description though - "temporary beta for port publishing"

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i.e. it's definitely a staging branch for going public, but maybe that will actually happen after Christmas and they are just getting things ready now

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:44 PM

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you have to be positive GBee 😃

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:45 PM

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I'm actually not sure if I want it for Christmas ... I really DO and yet it might mean I'll resent having to spend time with friends and relatives because they are preventing me from playing on Tanoa 😛

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:45 PM

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also it would be a good idea for BI to make it available on Linux and Mac before the Christmas sale 😉 ... Tanoa

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💰

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GV6 was right, everything would be much easier if you manage real life in arma 😃

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:47 PM

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well, they might make more money if it's first available outside the sale 😉

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:47 PM

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not sure if that many people would buy it, I probably wont

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:47 PM

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Won't be getting more money from me because I pre-ordered Apex direct from their site months ago 😄

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huh? Really?

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:48 PM

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I would buy it on sale, but probably not otherwise

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 3:48 PM

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Absolutely must-have for me. I mean Tanoa alone looks worth every penny

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I would have paid full price even if it wasn't though ... I'm a bit of a die-hard fan, I bought Arma and Arma 2 plus expansions even though they never came to linux purely on the strength of my experiences with Operation Flashpoint.

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 3:53 PM

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I really like Arma too, but I have already put way too much money into Arma (server) and would like to buy Apex rather with some discount on it

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hmm, i found out that I have Arma 1 too

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never played it tho

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I probably got it for free

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:03 PM

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https://dev.arma3.com/post/oprep-combat-patrol << If/when that comes to linux we should organise a campaign playthrough with some of the group regulars

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:06 PM

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yeah, we could do, but as you said only with group regulars 😃

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number of the TK players is increasing, kids had found out about the port

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I am not sure how well will Tanoa run, but I would also like to try BMR Insurgency on Tanoa

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:13 PM

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think the number of cheaters is on the rise also, seen some really odd stuff in the last couple of weeks.

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:15 PM

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hmm, I didnt notice anything except team killers, but I havent been playing much during the night

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I would like to enable BE but its broken

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it crashes everyones game after few minutes

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:17 PM

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TK is the biggest issue, yeah, we need an auto-punish mod or similar. It's not always easy to get enough people voting people off the server, especially if it's mostly the kids

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wonder if that will be fixed in 1.64

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:17 PM

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I hope so, I can give you admin right if you want 😃

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:19 PM

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It might be useful, but I'm not looking for the power 😉

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we'll see what happens, if things get even worse then yeah, I'll take admin to help get rid of the troublemakers

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:21 PM

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lol, everyone is afraid of the power .... except Neffex, but I dont want him to be admin, he would misuse the power again

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:22 PM

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right, because it's almost too easy to start abusing it no matter how good your intentions are.

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:22 PM

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everyone says that it would make them worse and they would start cheating, like if it was the Ring 😃

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:22 PM

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heh

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well I wouldn't start cheating 😉

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but I wouldn't really trust anyone who asked for admin - it's like politicians, the only people who want power are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be given it

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:25 PM

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unfortunately true

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:27 PM

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doesn't look like we'll get 1.64 today, too late

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maybe tomorrow

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:28 PM

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🤞

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accroding to the BI schedule there is SITREP on tuesday or wednesday

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they would annonce it there, unless the responsible guy is already baking Christmas cookies at home 😃

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GBee what did you mean by the 5fps bug ?

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 4:39 PM

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framerate tanks around 3-5fps and never recovers. It's a bug affecting lots of users on Windows and I've seen it a few times on linux. Started in 1.58 and BI haven't yet found the cause or fixed it. Bohema think it's related to a memory issue (as in not enough so it starts swapping) and that the 64bit executable will make it much rarer because it removes the memory cap on the game

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seems to happen for me mostly with large explosions nearby, some users have linked it to sound echos (1.58 was when the new sound engine was unveiled), but it could be any number of things.

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that time Dailibor was dropping cluster artillery shells on the village we were standing it it happened a couple of times, I had to quit and restart

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 4:42 PM

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hmm, I had problems with explosions and shooting causing my fps to drop to 2fps, but after I removed all the mods I think it stopped

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maybe it was caused by JSRS sound mod, not sure tho

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I will test it when I got some time

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I saw a video from Operator Drewski and he said that the x64 version uses only about 0.5GB more RAM then the 32 bit version

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I didnt try it tho

scenic sleet Dec 20, 2016, 5:03 PM

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well that wouldn't be a huge surprise, Bohemia spent a long time making it so that Arma will run in just 2GB of memory - given that, even if it's allowed to use more that doesn't necessarily mean that it will. However it would mean that it no longer has to start swapping things in and out of memory to stay under than limit which is where some of the performance issues occur. The reports I read from people who had tried it were that the framerate was now much more stable - not necessarily higher, but without sudden drops as they turned around or as action was going on around them. They were able to leave the view distances much higher with similar framerates.

hidden grail Dec 20, 2016, 5:06 PM

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nice 😃

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not sure if it will affect my explosion and massive shooting issues, as it is probably problem with low gpu power

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it might help when you are flying or going 300km/h in a car (hatchback sport ftw)

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when I wasnt using mods with the version 1.54, I have been playing arma from a RAM disk 😃

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but then I moved to SSD and it significantly improoved the performance when turning around and flying

sly rover Dec 21, 2016, 12:14 AM

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My solution to the teamkillers: Password protected server with a weak password. If someone cares enough, they can join, but most will just pass it by.

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But I also don't pay for my server, so I have no incentive to bring people in to keep it populated. I just play when friends want to.

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As for Apex, I'm buying it as soon as it is available on Linux.

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One of the few things I'm willing to buy right now, with my very limited budget.

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 10:34 AM

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hmm no new Sitrep, well I guess I was wrong 😦

left fog Dec 21, 2016, 10:42 AM

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i just finished fixing Combat Patrol DEV branch servers ... patience ... 😁

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 10:43 AM

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👏

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 10:46 AM

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is that also available for us ?

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 10:46 AM

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no, just Windows dev branch

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but I guess Dwarden means that he had to fix those before he could organise the port release 😄

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 10:47 AM

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😌

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@sly rover Yeah, that is also a solution, but considering that many of the people on the server dont even respond to my chat questions aimed at them, I dont think that we would get that many people on server.

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also new comers would never be able to connect, because noone reads the description in the server name 😃

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btw is there a way to disable workshop mods downloading ? I have some mods enabled for windows version (only to get some inspiration and see what the servers use, I dont use win 😄 )

dry venture Dec 21, 2016, 12:33 PM

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@HER0#0927 kick or timeout function will help a lot

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with voting and stuff

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 12:37 PM

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voting people off a public server can be hard, you need a certain percentage of people to vote and it's like herding cats - fine when the majority of the people on the server are regulars who read and respond to messages, but otherwise ...

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one of the issues with Arma in general is that a lot of people joining servers, especially mod servers, haven't a clue what is happening. They are stuck at a spawn point, watching others running about and then disappearing, they don't know how to play, where to go and they get frustrated. Before long they are shooting teammates and blowing up the vehicles because at least that's more fun for them than being able to do nothing at all.

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 12:59 PM

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true

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it seems that people with Apex got some update 😄

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 1:15 PM

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yup

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5.2GB

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still v1.58 though

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they removed the windows only restriction on the DLC in the depot

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but you still need 1.64 for it to work properly

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but unless it was an accident, that means we're getting 1.64 today?

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 1:20 PM

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or it was just a joke 😄

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 1:21 PM

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I've actually always been able to access Tanoa, it's just that all the assets are missing, so it's just empty terrain - no buildings, objects or vegeatation

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and it looks like nothing has actually changed yet

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 1:42 PM

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no buildings, objects or vegeatation -> no lag 😄

dry venture Dec 21, 2016, 1:47 PM

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300 fps😍

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 1:51 PM

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you can play it like quake 😄

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 2:38 PM

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11.5 GB update downloading now 🤗

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 2:40 PM

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😮

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all it says for me is NOT ENOUGH DISK SPACE

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 2:53 PM

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I don't know why I'm so anxious for this to finish downloading ... I've got an end of month work deadline looming and we're two weeks behind, I really shouldn't be playing any games

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 2:55 PM

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😄

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 2:57 PM

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well, confirmed, 1.64 is here ...

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 2:58 PM

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you already downloaded it ?

left fog Dec 21, 2016, 2:58 PM

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grins ;)

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 2:59 PM

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dakujeme 😃

left fog Dec 21, 2016, 2:59 PM

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missing the ninja emote ⚔

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 3:00 PM

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I am standing in the Jungles of Tanoa 😄

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 3:01 PM

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@left fog is the Arma server binary also updated ?

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 3:03 PM

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resolution in the editor seems off though ... while in-game it's fine, the editor looks like I'm running at 1024x768 or something ...

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the menus etc I mean

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 3:06 PM

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what about the performance GBee ?

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 3:07 PM

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umm, well I don't want to rush to judgement, I've got a lot of applications open right now which may be hurting performance. Getting ~35fps in the jungle with no AI etc which is less than half what I'd get on Altis in the same situation

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 3:10 PM

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hmm

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so probably no BMR Tanoa

left fog Dec 21, 2016, 3:14 PM

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official news: Arma 3 ports for Linux and Mac are now on version 1.64 (for better picture, 1.66 is Windows main stable build now)

strange mango Dec 21, 2016, 3:14 PM

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😮

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 3:41 PM

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well, not to ruin the mood, disappointing news from the updated Port FAQ, they aren't committing to a 64bit version for Linux/Mac ... which would have fixed the low VRAM issue and helped performance as a result. Now the lack of a guarantee isn't a firm statement that it won't ever happen, but it definitely puts the ports at a serious disadvantage 😦 Especially since Tanoa seems to perform so much worse in the Linux/Mac version.

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@left fog Thank you again. You delivered in time for Christmas, and that is hugely appreciated.

left fog Dec 21, 2016, 3:48 PM

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@scenic sleet because the 64-bit isn't even ready for windows

heavy lion Dec 21, 2016, 3:51 PM

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Also thanks for updating from me :)

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 3:52 PM

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@left fog I understand that. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but something like "we will look into the possibility" would be more positive than "we cannot confirm". No-one will fault you if later you come back and say "sorry guys, we just couldn't make it work"

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"cannot confirm" is what politicians say when they just don't want to give bad news 😉

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I get that the whole ports thing is 'experimental', a trial which has no guaranteed outcome and might just be cancelled at a moment's notice. I also get that Bohemia doesn't owe us anything.

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anyway, I'll just repeat that I'm hugely grateful that we're able to play Arma 3 at all on linux, let alone that we're getting the updates and access to the Apex expansion.

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 4:20 PM

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yeah, thanks 😄

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its nice to play an AAA FPS game on linux

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 4:50 PM

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seems like the HDR works now the same way as on windows, probably thanks to the graphics update 😃

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thanks Dwarden, you were right the server version is now 1.64

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 5:00 PM

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oh, that reminds me, I should check whether some of the bugs I reported are fixed 😄

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 5:02 PM

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@scenic sleet whats the issue about the textures set to high ?

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I have set my textures to high and it works

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 5:11 PM

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Works for me as well, but some people, including Liam from GamingOnLinux find that it keeps resetting to Medium/Low on their systems

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maybe linked to the VRAM limits

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maybe not, haven't personally heard an official explanation of that one from Bohemia

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I've not had problems with it set to High and playing at 1920x1080, maybe it drops at higher resolutions because it runs out of memory

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I know it dropped the texture resolution in-game dramatically when I tried playing at 4k

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and even when I tried QHD

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 5:16 PM

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ok then

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i like the new graphics update, the colors are more vivid

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 5:18 PM

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US uniform and default Sand textured weapons looked too light (almost white) when I tried it out earlier

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 5:21 PM

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hmm, dunno

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I have looked at the Ifrit, and that one has really HDR colors now

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 5:23 PM

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oh, you were playing on Altis/Stratis?

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That probably makes a difference, the lighting is different I believe between those islands and Tanoa

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to account for the differences between strong tropical sun and a more northerly Mediterranean setting

hidden grail Dec 21, 2016, 5:25 PM

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yeah, I have been playing on Altis

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 5:25 PM

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I'll play with it later, I thought there might be some alternate uniforms for NATO but if they are in the editor, I couldn't find them

blazing sphinx Dec 21, 2016, 6:33 PM

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Thanks Bstudio (cc/ @left fog ) to care about Linux family and MacOS

cyan knoll Dec 21, 2016, 7:08 PM

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guys, i have an error 'version 72 in p3d after buying apex'

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wworks again after rm'ing /Expansion/Addons/*

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something apex is breaking the port

half geode Dec 21, 2016, 7:17 PM

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I am not sure when was Apex released but it might not be compatible with the current linux port version?
nah current is 1.64, make sure you updated to that it should work with it
in case of problem report on feedback.bistudio.com if nobody responds

cyan knoll Dec 21, 2016, 7:53 PM

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i uped a crash report already

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i'm running 1.64 now

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without the /exp/addons stuff

scenic sleet Dec 21, 2016, 9:59 PM

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I'm able to play the Apex campaign, but there were some periodic lag spikes and despite a fix going in for the infamous 'stand up when near to wall' issue, the problem seems a LOT worse after the update. It's causing me to stand up even when I'm not obviously near any objects, for example I was crawling through a crop field, turned to the left and I switched to a crouching position.

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I've also had some audio popping and clicking issues, not all the time but periodically.

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At least two of the bugs I had with 1.58 have been fixed though, I can now play third party scenarios which would previously cause a crash. The 'Mr. Anderson' achievement now properly unlocks too.

quasi orchid Dec 21, 2016, 10:10 PM

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YAY, played the first Arma 3 multiplayer game in 3 years ❤

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thats when I dragged drive_c to the Recycling bin

sly rover Dec 22, 2016, 3:09 AM

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@scenic sleet I thought they made it so you couldn't turn as far when prone, or you automatically crouch

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So that you can't spin around on the ground

cyan knoll Dec 22, 2016, 8:58 AM

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APEX : narrowed down v 72 p3d in : vegetation_f_exp.ebo* and map_tanoa*, remove these from armapath/Expansion/Addons and away she goes, APEX welcome screen, apex weapons in the Varmory, enjoy :p

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 9:41 AM

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@HERO Well that would be a logical change, but if they did that, I missed it and any discussion around it. If that's the case though it seems to trigger a little too easily, I wasn't turning 180 or even 90 degrees but just about 45 degrees at any time. Are we saying that you can now only crawl in a more or less straight line?

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 11:17 AM

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Well Apex Protocol seems like fun, although in singleplayer it's a little 'one man army'. I must have killed 30-40 guys in that first mission

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the Tanoa End Game scenario was even better though, strange just how much the change in terrain altered the feel of the game. The soundscape on Tanoa is incredible, they even added metallic creaking sounds to the tops of the container cranes and I like the sound of loose stones as you scramble over rocky areas.

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Hope Altis/Stratis gets at least a little of that attention. It really does make a difference.

dry venture Dec 22, 2016, 11:28 AM

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stone sound is just awesome

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more little improvements/details like this and arma goes epic

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 11:30 AM

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the other notable thing about Tanoa is the increased detail and cover e.g. streets in the towns aren't just empty, there are planters, bins, benches, bollars, parking meters and other objects which make the place feel a little more real and in the case of the first two, offer cover for street fighting. Lots of additional details in road markings, more road signs too. This is something I'd also have liked to see in Altis, it's wouldn't take much to do and it just helps with immersion.

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also, what's with the message laid out in stones, to be visible only from the air? An S with an arrow pointing almost south? Is this a secret clue leading to some special hidden place? Why haven't I read about this?

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one disappointment is that the Temple reminds you of Tomb Raider, and then you try climb up it and realise that this isn't Tomb Raider at all because you can't even lift yourself up waist high ledges. This is where the mantle and running vault seen in mods badly needs to be included in the core game (with necessary limitations, e.g. it shouldn't be possible when carrying too much or with certain weapons). Though it would be nice to be able to throw gear to lighten the load before then being able to jump i.e. toss a backpack or rifle onto the top of a rocky area so that you can then freely haul yourself up to that position.

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similarly, you could at least pretend that gullies are filled with water, throw gear to the opposite 'bank' before you wade through 😉

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(getting off topic here)

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 11:53 AM

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I think lara croft weighs 40kg where as soldier with military gear more like 120kg

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 11:55 AM

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with a full bergen maybe, which is why I made the point about there being a limit to what you can do when carrying large objects or too much gear. Even ACE, the 'realism' mod has climbing

left fog Dec 22, 2016, 11:55 AM

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i bet you would want something like Parkour capable animation system 😉

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 12:01 PM

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it would be nice, but I think what we've got now through existing mods is perfectly adequate, it's just inconsistent because some servers include those mods and others don't. Fine when you're talking about weapons and vehicles, but disappointing when it comes to basic improvements to movement 😃

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anyway, I'm just rambling. Everyone has their own Arma wishlist, nothing really special about me and mine. I will enjoy the game for what it is 😉

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anyway, that stone message has got me curious. It could just be nothing at all, it could be pointing at the Temple, but what if it's not? I'll now spend hours crawling over every inch of the map in a generally southern direction looking for some hidden treasure

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 12:11 PM

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@cyan knoll thank you , it worked !

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:15 PM

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50% off sale on Apex on the official store right now - https://store.bistudio.com/

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 1:26 PM

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For me this new version lags when I am shooting

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it didnt happen before

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@left fog do you know if there is some swap file on linux that Arma uses ?

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or does it use linux swap partition (if set) for overcoming the low RAM issues ?

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I read that on windows it uses pagefile, not sure about linux tho

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:37 PM

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@cyan knoll false alarm , it start the game ok alright , but as soon as i try loading from the campaign it pops a missing glassclutter message or something then refuses to load the mission

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 1:41 PM

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Pedeathtrian probably found a fix for the p3d problem

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/195451-unable-to-start-game-since-apex/

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:43 PM

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that doesn't explain why it just works for me

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although ... in the expansions menu within the game, there is 'Apex' but there was also a blank entry that in the past was also Apex (it just didn't work). I have disabled that 'blank' expansion in the past.

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maybe that's the reason, it's actually installed two different copies, but I had just disabled the wrong/broken one?

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:48 PM

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@hidden grail thx for the tip , launching the game with the argument -world="Altis" as mentioned in that forum post fixed the issues no need to delete any files manually, not sure about wether the apex tonoa campaign works though currently going through the old campaign

left fog Dec 22, 2016, 1:48 PM

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it seems like wrong install, erase depotcache folder content, verify data, if that fails, clean reinstall

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people run Apex with ports fine w/o the 72 error ...

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:49 PM

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weird coz i tried verifying cache and even reinstalling the entire game put i still get the 72 p3d error , only with that argument it works fine

left fog Dec 22, 2016, 1:49 PM

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you will still fail to run Tanoa, so starting it is just flawed workaround not solution

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:49 PM

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Note the blank (nameless) expansion - https://ibin.co/36G3HalOaBc5.png

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let me try re-enabling that, seeing whether it breaks or whether it's just a red-herring

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:50 PM

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yeah noticed that too ,

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but disabled is greyed out for me

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so the workaround was my only option

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:51 PM

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it's been there since Apex released, with 1.58 I could enable that expansion and Tanoa would appear in the editor, though it was missing all the objects, just an empty terrain

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:52 PM

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Its really weird since some people have the 1.64 with apex and yet no complaints

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:53 PM

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ok, enabling it again didn't break Apex... so I guess it is a red herring. Apex, Tanoa etc just continue working fine for me :/

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:54 PM

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At least apex works for u

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:55 PM

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yeah, but I care that it doesn't for you guys

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:55 PM

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i guess the only permanent fix is to wait for a solution from the dev , although i still cant understand why it works for some people and some just dont

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doesnot appear to be a distro related issue probably something else

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:56 PM

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I mean purely selfishly, because if you can't run Tanoa then there won't be anyone in multiplayer on Tanoa 😉

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:56 PM

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hahaha

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good point

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what distro are u on ?

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:57 PM

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Mageia

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:58 PM

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never heard of it , from which distro is it forked ?

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 1:58 PM

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can see why it would be distro specific, that wouldn't make any sense

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Mandriva

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(formerly known as Mandrake)

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 1:58 PM

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nah i dont think it is just askin out of curiosity ^^

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nice

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so i removed the -world="Altis" argument , and tried pedeathtrain's second solution by opting into the legacy ports , apex now starts like a charm

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/195451-unable-to-start-game-since-apex/

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thx @hidden grail

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i know its still not a perfect solution but at least now both tonoa and altis work

left fog Dec 22, 2016, 2:26 PM

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it's not using it, checked

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 2:46 PM

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@quasi orchid maybe you should try what Dwarden suggested, removing the game cache

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I cant remember where it is tho

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 2:47 PM

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i removed the entire arma 3 folder and reinstalled it completely

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twice

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it always somehow pulls a bad version

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 2:47 PM

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its not in the arma folder and I dont think that after you delete the game from steam it deletes the cache too

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it stays there I think

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 2:48 PM

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oh in that case i havenot tried that , other than checking cache integrity through steam ofc which i also did

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well then it would help to know where that cache is 😃

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 3:13 PM

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i found something here

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in ~/.local/bohemiainteractive/

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not sure if it would help tho, make a backup first and go back to the normal branch if you want to test it

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 3:16 PM

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exact path varies depending on distribution, it's ~/.local/share/bohemiainteractive on mine

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note that if you're going to try deleting it, that's where your save games and configs are stored

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and Steam Workshop mods by the look of it

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 3:18 PM

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?

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mods are in ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/workshop/content/

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on Debian 😄

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 3:26 PM

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possibly useful considering we can't use either TFAR or ACRE - https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/200791-release-addon-free-arma-radio/#comment-3131290

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 4:13 PM

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~/.steam/steam/steamapps/workshop/content/ on archlinux confirmed , will try later to delete it and reinstall for now ill enjoy playin on the legacyport 😃

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thx @hidden grail

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 4:16 PM

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@hidden grail looks like some workshop scenarios (not mods) are at least cached in that folder on my system - local/share/bohemiainteractive/arma3/AppDataLocal/Arma 3/MPMissionsCache/

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oh, I know what those are, they are the missions downloaded from servers ... ok, mistook them for stuff I'd downloaded from the Workshop

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 4:27 PM

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you're welcome

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GBee also when you play on a server the missions are saved there

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oh thats what you said 😄

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that MPMissionsCache is useful to "reverse engineer" the missions from windows servers 😄

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@quasi orchid removing the settings in ~/.local/share/bohemiainteractive wont probably work

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Ped found the depot cache (its in .steam folder) and removed all files from there as Dwarden suggested and he also switched to main branch but he still have the p3d issue

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 4:42 PM

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so as guess as long as i got my game working its useless to try emptying the cache eh ?

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thx for the headsup man

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 4:48 PM

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@scenic sleet are you using the main branch or you are using the branch with the beta code ?

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yeah it seems so velociraptor

scenic sleet Dec 22, 2016, 4:49 PM

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main branch

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i.e. no branch selected in beta options

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note, I may be the one with the broken cache ... just possible that it's broken for everyone else because they have the latest files and for some reason I don't. Not going to delete and reinstall to find out just in case it means I lose Tanoa 😃

quasi orchid Dec 22, 2016, 4:52 PM

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in case u ever lose it , now we know what to do ^^

hidden grail Dec 22, 2016, 4:53 PM

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😄

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it works for Detox as it should too

hidden grail Dec 23, 2016, 11:58 AM

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ok, so now I bought Apex too and I got no errors, but when I start Tanoa, there is load of objects missing

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in Georgetown there is only like 10 buidlings or so

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I will try to use the legacy code

hidden grail Dec 23, 2016, 12:33 PM

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legacy code solution worked ! 😄

scenic sleet Dec 23, 2016, 1:13 PM

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weird

hidden grail Dec 23, 2016, 1:48 PM

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yeah

scenic sleet Dec 23, 2016, 10:06 PM

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well just completed Apex Protocol campaign in multiplayer, that was great 😃 Last mission in particular was a definite fav

scenic sleet Dec 25, 2016, 3:06 PM

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well this sucks, upgraded to the latest version of my distro and now Arma crashes on startup

cedar maple Dec 25, 2016, 3:12 PM

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thats how linux works innit

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did you do something to me?

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oh you did?

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fail horribly in every way

scenic sleet Dec 25, 2016, 8:08 PM

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well fixed the issue. Annoyingly I've had the same crash several times before, and every single time I forget what the cause was and spend a couple of hours trying to fix it until I remember. Pulseaudio wasn't running, and EON requires pulseaudio (for some reason)

hidden grail Dec 29, 2016, 10:32 AM

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I finished the Apex campaign too, it was really good, and Tanoa looks really great (even on standard settings 😃 ) I also love the sounds of storm, it sounds like a real storm 😃

scenic sleet Dec 29, 2016, 10:36 AM

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yeah, that campaign mission where you start in the Jungle with heavy mist and rain was very atmospheric

hidden grail Dec 29, 2016, 10:52 AM

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I played also wasteland on Tanoa while there was storm

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and it i really great, even the dense jungle performs pretty well for me

sly rover Dec 31, 2016, 10:18 PM

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It performs way better than I was expecting

molten pulsar Jan 6, 2017, 11:55 AM

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anyone got some experiences to share regarding steam / A3 on Fedora 25(-ish) perhaps with an AMD card (R9 290)?

sly rover Jan 6, 2017, 3:56 PM

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I don't. Is there something in particular you are looking for?

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You shouldn't have to do anything specific to Arma to be able to play it.

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Assuming Fedora 25. Anything lower, I don't think the drivers are new enough.

molten pulsar Jan 6, 2017, 4:22 PM

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just wondering if it actually works before I go back to the Linux world 😃

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e.g. Fedora 25 is fully Wayland now so that might potentially causes issues

sly rover Jan 6, 2017, 4:51 PM

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Well it isn't fully wayland, an x server still runs for compatibility.

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So you shouldn't be able to notice the difference

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And if you did have a problem, you could still use plain x11

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Hopefully after reporting your issue :p

dry venture Jan 7, 2017, 1:48 PM

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what to expect with intel 7700k in arma mp? stable 60fps with 5km object distance?

verbal nova Jan 7, 2017, 2:56 PM

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hahahaha

silver urchin Jan 7, 2017, 4:13 PM

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Lower it down to 500m ;)

short tulip Jan 7, 2017, 5:04 PM

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So anyway, I bought this game on January 2nd, less than an hour before the Steam Sale ended. I haven't had a problem with this game's performance besides the inability to play with Windows clients and my own personal inexperience with the game. Is it new for the game to be working so well on Linux?

quasi orchid Jan 7, 2017, 5:34 PM

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Whether you have a performance problem really depends on what you do. In most single player scenarios it runs well but the issue lies in multiplayer and with "large" games which I would say is anything above about 30 players. That is where performance genuinely becomes a big problem and enters into the unplayable region (sub 30 fps) regardless of hardware. Its not really a 120 fps type of game, that is basically impossible unless you in an airfield looking at the sky, so it does perform uncharastically poorly in an empty mission. So you are going to have to define "well" to you with objective measures based on some scenario.

short tulip Jan 7, 2017, 5:36 PM

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Oh. Well, I've only been playing single-player content so far. The closest I've come to playing multiplayer is looking at the server browser and lamenting that there is still a version mismatch and no ability to filter out incompatible servers (that I know of).

hidden grail Jan 7, 2017, 9:32 PM

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you dont have to worry about bad performance on multiplayer servers on linux as the maximum number of players I have experienced was 19 and this occured only once

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mostly there is like 5-8 players on server

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during weekends usually a bit more, 10-14

remote forge Jan 9, 2017, 7:52 AM

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I don't think 7700k performance will be tested anytime soon 😄

scenic sleet Jan 9, 2017, 9:57 AM

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considering it's not really much faster than the 4790k you really cannot expect 5km view distance @ 60fps - the issue with view distance isn't CPU but memory, and on linux you're currently limited to even less vram and memory than you'll be able to use on Windows. Hopefully the 64bit version comes to linux and that will change.

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I had view distance and objects turned right down to 1km last night in Georgetown on Tanoa and it was still having problems (4790k). Textures were the biggest issue, by the end I was getting low resolution lods on pretty much everything

dry venture Jan 9, 2017, 11:28 AM

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Tanoa even on pc is ~20-30fps

scenic sleet Jan 9, 2017, 2:29 PM

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jungle and other areas are fine for me, but yesterday in Georgetown with several other players was not great

silver urchin Jan 9, 2017, 2:58 PM

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Yeah the Georgetown is pretty bad for everyone

scenic sleet Jan 9, 2017, 10:01 PM

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It may not perform great, but I do really like Georgetown, it's small but a proper modern city with some really nice details

sly rover Jan 11, 2017, 3:15 AM

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@short tulip Ever since the port was made public, we have enjoyed nearly the same performance as Windows.

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Some eON ports just work out that way

glass grotto Jan 11, 2017, 5:33 AM

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But it is still not update to date with the win branch or is it ?

blazing sonnet Jan 11, 2017, 6:32 AM

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Still not

molten pulsar Jan 11, 2017, 8:36 AM

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it's only 1 version behind (1.66 vs 1.64) so my guess is that it won't be too long before they start to sync up 😃

glass grotto Jan 11, 2017, 9:00 AM

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Only reason I use windows at the moment is arma.. :/

blazing sonnet Jan 11, 2017, 2:02 PM

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One upside to what marceldev89 said is that because Windows and Linux are only one version off, the legacy branch (previous stable branch version) is currently MP compatible with Linux 😃

sly rover Jan 11, 2017, 7:19 PM

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@left fog has been dropping hints that it might happen eventually (soon?)

scenic sleet Jan 12, 2017, 10:00 AM

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if they continue to push out updates for Windows at the same rate, and they likely will with all the new DLCs in the pipeline, then I don't see things syncing up until 2018 at the earliest

molten pulsar Jan 12, 2017, 10:45 AM

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depends on how those DLCs will be implemented though, the porting people should only have to worry about the DirectX -> OpenGL (et all) stuff and perhaps some platform dependant code

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lets say that they're internally synced up with 1.66 then they'd only have to work out the changes made with an update instead of porting the whole thing 😛

scenic sleet Jan 12, 2017, 10:47 AM

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it's the testing cycles, not the porting which takes time

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they aren't going to release each port without it going through full regression testing, which would take at least a week on top of whatever time is spent integrating changes from each point release

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with something as complex as Arma, I'm guessing a week is a huge understatement for their QA process. They then hand off the build to BI who will do their own QA

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we might start to see some overlap where for a brief period both platforms are in sync, though that might actually be worse - i.e. being able to play on hundreds of servers one day, then just a handful the next

molten pulsar Jan 12, 2017, 10:54 AM

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perhaps you're right, we'll see 😃

sly rover Jan 12, 2017, 3:55 PM

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I was not just speculating, by the way.

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But obviously that isn't official still.

scenic sleet Jan 12, 2017, 10:49 PM

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there's a difference between "Dwarden has been dropping hints" and "I know for a fact that it will happen soon". Yes, Dwarden has vaguely suggested it will eventually be the case, not so sure about the 'soon' part but maybe you saw something I didn't

scenic sleet Jan 12, 2017, 11:08 PM

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If Dwarden has said something more concrete to you then that's great news and I wouldn't doubt your word if that was the case, I was only responding to what you wrote which was that he has dropped hints, which he has, but all the hints I saw were entirely non-committal about timelines

left fog Jan 12, 2017, 11:44 PM

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expect less, be happier if you get more 😉

molten pulsar Jan 12, 2017, 11:55 PM

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expect more and get even more than that, that's better 😁

sly rover Jan 13, 2017, 3:57 AM

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I expect nothing and get Apex :D

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But I am also optimistic about what could hapen

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+p

fallow belfry Jan 13, 2017, 12:30 PM

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HI! is there mod support for Arma iii on linux?

remote forge Jan 13, 2017, 12:38 PM

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that depends on the mod authors

fallow belfry Jan 13, 2017, 12:41 PM

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because i just installed arma 3 on my mint box, and trying to launch with workshop content crashes the game at the bohemia screen

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is there a way launch the thing without mods and without un-subscribing from your workshop content? otherwhise i'll compile a list and just delete everything

hidden grail Jan 13, 2017, 1:51 PM

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@fallow belfry if you are just subscribed to mods, it does not automatically load them

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you need to copy them into your arma 3 folder or symlink them there

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then you can load them throught the game or use -mod=.... in the steam launch options

fallow belfry Jan 13, 2017, 1:52 PM

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even if they work through steam workshop?

hidden grail Jan 13, 2017, 1:54 PM

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yeah, I meant expecially these mods

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the steam workshop mods dont work out-of-box

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arma can see only those mods that are in the arma 3 folder

dry venture Jan 13, 2017, 2:47 PM

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as i remember steam mods route can be changed, don't know if it's working with linux

fallow belfry Jan 13, 2017, 2:57 PM

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i'll uninstall them and try again thanks 😃 btw is there Apex support on linux?

hidden grail Jan 13, 2017, 3:14 PM

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yes, linux has already version 1.64

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but a lot of people has been experiencing some issues with it like Tanoa throwing errors

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but there is a quick fix, you have to opt for beta branch with password Arma3LegacyPorts

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then it works

safe stream Jan 13, 2017, 4:40 PM

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i do hope they bring the linux branch up to par with the main branch

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i'd love to play on linux full time and be able to join everything

scenic sleet Jan 15, 2017, 6:10 PM

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scenarios work out of the box, mods not so much

sly rover Jan 16, 2017, 3:13 AM

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Mods work even

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Just not binary mods or any mod/mission that requires a newer version. Being only one behind, that means that mostly everything works.

scenic sleet Jan 16, 2017, 9:35 AM

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right

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a lot of Steam workshop installed mods work out of the box e.g. RHS, CUPS etc

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 11:02 AM

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you didnt have to symlink them ?

scenic sleet Jan 16, 2017, 12:56 PM

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originally I did, but I thought the last time I installed a new mod (post 1.64) it no longer had to be manually symlinked, maybe I'm wrong about that, I can't remember clearly

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looks like Arma 3 might get some competition on Linux, looks like Squad is being ported ...

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 1:08 PM

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😃

scenic sleet Jan 16, 2017, 1:14 PM

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I'm an Arma loyalist, so I'm not going anywhere, but there are a couple of different ways this could affect Arma 3

left fog Jan 16, 2017, 1:17 PM

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@scenic sleet i would say more that RO or INS than going against us , but i consider all those games as enrichmnnt of pool with the tactical shooter games

scenic sleet Jan 16, 2017, 1:23 PM

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right, certainly not the first to Linux (other than Arma) but it's the game that, at least in my experience get mentioned in the same breath as Arma. More games to the platform is on balance a good thing, but as we've previously discussed it can be a double edged sword with increased choice reducing per-game sales in the short term.

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in the longer term it makes it more viable for gamers to switch to Linux, but publishers do need to recognise that balance and that there won't be an overnight platform shift in the same way you might see with a console launch.

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anyway, I hope this is positive overall for Arma - persuading BI that Linux is a growing platform

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 3:33 PM

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the question is, can you play vs zombies in squad ? I dont think so 😄

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another tactical shooter for linux is great, but we already got Arma and Insurgency (even Arma 2 and I think BF Project Reality can be played through wine)

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what we need is some not so serious shooter, something more fast paced like Battlefield ... or maybe Project Argo

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that said, since we got Arma on linux I have dualbooted only a few times to windows to play some other FPS game

scenic sleet Jan 16, 2017, 3:45 PM

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I've long preferred the more serious, tactical stuff to the likes of Battlefield. It wasn't always that way, but OFP changed a lot of things. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a few less realistic FPS games in singleplayer but I don't enjoy the fast FPS multiplayer experience.

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Especially since those games attract the kind of players that completely ruin the experience for me, running and jumping around like idiots, not playing as a team, spraying rounds like crazy etc

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it's also the reason why Wasteland doesn't appeal to me very much, yes you sometimes get people coordinating and working together as a group but most of the time you also get people just running off to do their own thing and it's geared around personal reward rather than team reward

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 4:03 PM

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i like games like BF also because its ez to get into it, and you can play it for lets say an hour, but when you enter arma, you have to play it at least 2 hours (if you can control yourself, otherwise you will find out that you are alredy playing it 5 hours but you dont want to stop)

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also I liked BF because i could play it after a hard day when I didnt want to look all around me all the time for a dot on the map which can be a sniper 1km away

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BF is easier on brain when you had a long day and you dont want to think about anything (no strategies and stuff) 😶

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 5:01 PM

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for those who use mods, the newest CBA mod is crashing arma

glass grotto Jan 16, 2017, 5:08 PM

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on mac os ?

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 5:13 PM

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linux, but on mac it will be probably the same

glass grotto Jan 16, 2017, 5:14 PM

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will check it out. and report to the cba team

hidden grail Jan 16, 2017, 5:14 PM

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we have 1.64, so maybe they use some 1.66 specific things

sly rover Jan 16, 2017, 5:34 PM

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I don't like Insurgency very much. That weird mix of casual shooter and realism is one I don't enjoy.

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I was looking forward to Squad, a long time ago when they said they would release Linux versions, but Arma now has a special place in my heart.

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I hope that BI never drops support for Linux, but even if that happened, I'd be happy with what we have.

dry venture Jan 18, 2017, 9:19 PM

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ehm, somebody wrote about squad on mac, but couldn't find any info, only about when all content implemented we will start creating client for mac

hidden grail Jan 19, 2017, 2:14 PM

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squad on linux not mac 😃

crystal scaffold Jan 19, 2017, 5:28 PM

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does anyone know how to change displays on Linux? I have two displays connected and arma picks the 'wrong' one ...

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fullscreen window instead of window seems to be an option

gritty sage Jan 19, 2017, 5:31 PM

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basic.cfg/arma3.cfg has forcedAdapterId and more

crystal scaffold Jan 19, 2017, 5:35 PM

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thanks @gritty sage, worked fine to force it to adapterId 0

scenic sleet Jan 19, 2017, 6:41 PM

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oh that's useful to know, I just move it to the correct screen every time at the moment, didn't even think those settings would work on linux

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and yes, it does work even though it enumerates my displays in a completely different order to everything else, so that my primary display was 2, (1 logical order) and 1 was the rightmost display with display 0 on the left being the only one conforming to some kind of logical pattern

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oops, maybe spoke too soon ... can force 0 or 1, but if I give it 2 it starts on 0 instead

scenic sleet Jan 19, 2017, 9:52 PM

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so top tip - backup your Arma configs

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somehow lost mine after running out of disk space and now everything is horribly messed up. Can't seem to get back the same video settings/quality, I've been switched to the all new bindings system, all preferences are gone. Should be playing Arma right now but instead I'm going to be spending the night trying to restore everything back to how I like it 😦

molten pulsar Jan 19, 2017, 11:08 PM

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pro tip, backup everything 😄

scenic sleet Jan 19, 2017, 11:45 PM

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including your backups

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and your backups of backups

dry venture Jan 20, 2017, 8:39 AM

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@emp64#8389 ok, thx, misread it then

scenic sleet Jan 23, 2017, 10:17 PM

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should anyone be wondering, Arma isn't playable on linux at 4K ... though the main issue looks like memory. Really hope that the 64bit client comes to linux, because before it runs out of memory and even the closest objects drop to the worst LOD possible, it looks bloody amazing

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sadly, I'm now having trouble playing at 1920x1080 because it looks lousy in comparison

hidden grail Jan 23, 2017, 10:20 PM

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😄

remote forge Jan 24, 2017, 7:50 AM

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Well it would be playable, but Linux doubles the usage of memory, so the internal cap is too low as 4K frames resolution fill the available ram/vram too damn fast

molten pulsar Jan 24, 2017, 7:57 AM

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could try 4K with (way) lower texture settings 😛

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kinda pointless for 4K but oh well

remote forge Jan 24, 2017, 8:24 AM

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Not really pointless, you can and will see a difference of 1080p vs 4K resolution with the same texture settings.

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For example try playing arma in 640x480 and then in 4K with the same texture settings, I know that might be a bit overkill, but I think you get my point 😄

scenic sleet Jan 24, 2017, 9:43 AM

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@remote forge Hence the hope that the 64bit client comes to linux and then the memory cap will be removed

remote forge Jan 24, 2017, 9:58 AM

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Yeah hope so too, but the memory cap is there, because it helps make the game more stable. Without it, the game runs out of memory much sooner due to the multiplication of linux memory management and subsequently is more likely to crash.

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Be aware, that the 64bit is not the ultimate saviour of the universe and/or the holy grail, do not get your hopes up too much 😃

scenic sleet Jan 24, 2017, 10:25 AM

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As someone who has done their fair share of 32bit to 64bit porting, my hopes and expectations aren't higher than they should be

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lifting the memory cap won't affect the stability of the game

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it's currently 700MB texture cache in the linux client - considering I have 16GB RAM and 8GB VRAM ... not going to start running out of memory if the texture cache was increased to match the VRAM

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I'm sure BI/VP can come up with a reasonable formula, allowing sufficient memory for the core game and the textures, based on available system memory and vram

remote forge Jan 24, 2017, 10:55 AM

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Yeah, the surely will, the question is when 😄

scenic sleet Jan 24, 2017, 11:54 AM

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all depends on VP I guess

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BI have done the 64bit port, it now depends on whether EON is available in 64bit

scenic sleet Jan 24, 2017, 12:28 PM

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I'd guess that since VP might charge more to maintain both a 32bit and 64bit version, that BI will only offer one version for Linux which would logically be the 64bit version since no-one uses 32bit linux anymore (on a machine they'd use for gaming)

remote forge Jan 24, 2017, 12:35 PM

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makes sense

hidden grail Jan 28, 2017, 5:17 PM

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Hey all, we got an Arma event now, join if you are interested

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details are in #multiplayer_events (I hope Dwarden is ok with this announcement :D)

molten pulsar Jan 28, 2017, 6:39 PM

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I doubt there's a big problem with announcements in here since there aren't too many of "us" 😛

hidden grail Jan 28, 2017, 7:22 PM

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last time Dwarden deleted my announcement

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because it should have been in the event section

molten pulsar Jan 28, 2017, 8:45 PM

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oh pitty, haven't said anything 🤐

hidden grail Jan 28, 2017, 8:54 PM

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😃

short tulip Jan 31, 2017, 6:37 PM

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@hidden grail Next time you have an event like this, I would like advance warning so I can try to plan ahead. Also, Friday night is a bad time for me to join in on a gaming event.

hidden grail Jan 31, 2017, 6:56 PM

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@short tulip you can join our steam group and get an event notification in advance https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Arma3LinuxMac

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also when I plan some event its only like 1 or 2 days before the event (cuz I dont know I will have time...)

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and we were playing on saturday not friday, I dont think there is timezone where was friday at 17:00 UTC saturday

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 4:30 PM

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Any clues about the following error? Bad version 72 in p3d file 'a3\vegetation_f_exp\clutter\grass\c_grassbunch_hi.p3d'

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It's a fresh Fedora 25 install with the default radeon driver

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tried verifying local files a couple of times but that doesn't fix a thing

gritty sage Feb 3, 2017, 4:42 PM

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newer p3d format than what the engine supports. Really shouldn't be happening tho

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 4:50 PM

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apparently there's a development branch for the linux port? I'll try that and see what happens 😛

left fog Feb 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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no, that's linux dedicated server, don't mismatch with ports ...

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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wut?

left fog Feb 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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main branch has native linux server ... and thus profiling branch has it too ...

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 4:52 PM

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check channel 😀

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oh A3 linux port development branch is 1.58 dammit 😛

hidden grail Feb 3, 2017, 5:46 PM

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this is a common error with Apex DLC

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Arma3LegacyPorts

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use that as beta password and then switch to that branch

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@molten pulsar

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 6:08 PM

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seems weird, but I'll give it a shot. ty 😃

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~~isn't that supposed to be a windows client branch though? 😛~~

hidden grail Feb 3, 2017, 6:11 PM

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yes it is meant for windows 😄

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but linux version is broken for 95% of people i know 😄

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its weird tho, that for some people it works ok

molten pulsar Feb 3, 2017, 7:00 PM

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nice it works, thanks

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the open source radeon driver can't quite cope with it but it's playable 😃

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I feel like it ran better in the past, maybe a year ago?

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could've been with the fglrx drivers though

hidden grail Feb 3, 2017, 7:10 PM

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ehm, might be

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for me even the previous version ran a bit better

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but this one has better HDR

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and I use nvidia

short tulip Feb 4, 2017, 4:08 PM

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So I tried the Arma3LegacyPorts code on Linux. It opts me into the Legacy Port branch which is exactly the same thing as the Linux version... on Linux. So Steam just does a 0 byte download to transition 1.64 to 1.64.

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I lolled

hidden grail Feb 4, 2017, 4:43 PM

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do you have Apex ?

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the code is needed only for Apex, because thats the only broken part

short tulip Feb 4, 2017, 5:02 PM

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Really? I do have Apex.

molten pulsar Feb 4, 2017, 5:08 PM

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it made me download 4 or 8 GB-ish of data when switching

hidden grail Feb 4, 2017, 6:34 PM

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and is Tanoa and stuff working for you Kandarihu ?

sly rover Feb 6, 2017, 5:38 PM

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You only need that code if the game is messing up for you

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If it isn't, you can play without opting into a beta

short tulip Feb 6, 2017, 9:29 PM

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@hidden grail To be honest, I haven't tried much of Tanoa. Just a little bit of Zeus, just experiementing with it on my own. I think I'm going to just save it for after I'm done with the non-Apex Single Player

hidden grail Feb 6, 2017, 10:14 PM

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I havent played the non apex campaign, but the Apex one is pretty cool, especially when playing it coop

scenic sleet Feb 7, 2017, 10:58 AM

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It's punishing if you play the Apex campaign Single Player, it's really a designed for Co-op

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I got halfway through then a corruption after running of out disk space wiped my Arma saves and configs ... so I have to start all over again 😦

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at least in single player campaign you can save the game, in coop you have no saves but you do get limited respawns ...

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you definitely end up playing much more stealth in Apex solo - you pretty much have to use silencers and avoiding kills when you can to remain undetected

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of course that could just be because I play everything on Veteran+

molten pulsar Feb 8, 2017, 10:16 AM

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@left fog any chance to see the screenshot command implemented on the ports? Currently getting DX11 error : Saving of screenshot to file failed: : E_POINTER with screenshot "test.png" 🙁

hidden grail Feb 8, 2017, 2:09 PM

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cant you use the steam screenshot feature ?

molten pulsar Feb 8, 2017, 2:15 PM

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technically but I need the programmatic approach

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I guess I could write an extension that does something similar to the steam overlay thing

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"official" support would be nicer and less work for me 😁

strange mango Feb 8, 2017, 3:08 PM

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@marceldev89#4565 Pennyworth wrote an extension for this. contact him

molten pulsar Feb 8, 2017, 4:13 PM

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oooohhh 😃

raw quiver Feb 8, 2017, 11:06 PM

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Any ETA on 1.66 for linux?

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average time between windows and linux updates?

hoary carbon Feb 8, 2017, 11:37 PM

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seems like the ports are released bit after the main has been updated. So i would think that the 1.68 would drop and then after that, 1.66 for the ports would be released

short tulip Feb 9, 2017, 12:54 AM

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So we're still one or two away, huh? The gap used to be a lot wider, right?

raw quiver Feb 9, 2017, 1:44 AM

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Ah that's too bad. Any servers that play on 1.64?

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Im installing on my windows part. now but

hoary carbon Feb 9, 2017, 1:45 AM

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i know, it seems it takes time to make the port

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but also i think it is so there is a less issues

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not many servers are running old version

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s

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Tho there is a legacy branch available to server i thin

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*think

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so setting up a server shouldn't be too hrad

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Also public servers might be a nightmare

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as there is no battleye protection as far as i'm aware off

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the linux Dedi server support battle eye i mean, The Port does not current;y

short tulip Feb 9, 2017, 12:24 PM

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I just looked at the server browser and let it run for a bit. Out of an apparent total of servers of 1710, only 131 are running 1.64. Out of those, only one of them has anyone on it, with a single player. Meanwhile, there are currently 150 servers on 1.66 with at least one player on them.

molten pulsar Feb 9, 2017, 12:28 PM

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this is a bad time to test that 😄

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in Europe people are supposed to be working

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and the US is sleeping I think

hidden grail Feb 9, 2017, 12:50 PM

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true

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look at it at around 19:00 UTC

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I know of 2 really good servers with version 1.64 😄

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most of the players are EU, US based, some are from Russia

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there was also a few Australians, but they are gone i think, they moved from mac to win

short tulip Feb 9, 2017, 8:31 PM

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Out of an apparent total of servers of 1784, only 130 are running 1.64. Out of those, only two of them has anyone on it, one of them is emp's own server with 4 players, and the other is some private group with 23 players. Meanwhile, there are currently 327 servers on 1.66 with at least one player on them.

hidden grail Feb 9, 2017, 8:51 PM

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yeah, there is just a few servers for linux and mac players

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but it was even worse before 😄

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btw that emp's server is pretty good ... at least from what I've heard 😉

scenic sleet Feb 11, 2017, 5:15 PM

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server browser is often misleading when it comes to showing actually number of players/servers - most serious players are part of units (clans) that run their own private servers. Even for the linux client, the SteamLUG server, a few of the guys from the GamingOnLinux community run private servers.

short tulip Feb 11, 2017, 9:35 PM

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Yes. The private server that I saw belongs to a group called Black Watch International.

sly rover Feb 14, 2017, 6:45 PM

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Both the client and the server do support BattlEye, by the way

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And anyone is welcome on the SteamLUG server, if you can guess the password (or ask someone for it)

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But please do not post it here

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Or anywhere public

scenic sleet Feb 14, 2017, 7:09 PM

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they support BattlEye, but it's not enabled on every server. emp64 had it disabled on his servers because it was causing crashes, I don't know if that's still the case

sly rover Feb 14, 2017, 9:40 PM

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Yeah, I have it disabled because of the crashes, mostly

short tulip Feb 14, 2017, 9:49 PM

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I was hoping that BattlEye would be a better anti-cheating system than NProtect Gameguard.

left fog Feb 15, 2017, 12:41 AM

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@short tulip well ... be sure it is ... you trying compare uncomparable 😉

hidden grail Feb 15, 2017, 2:51 PM

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I dont know if it still causes crashes, but windows players who downgraded had problems connecting when BE was on

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not sure if they would still have these problems tho

hidden grail Feb 16, 2017, 8:44 PM

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Hey all, another of our Arma events will be held on Saturday at 17:00 UTC. I am looking forward to see you on the battlefield.

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@short tulip

short tulip Feb 16, 2017, 8:45 PM

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I just saw the announcement on Steam.

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@hidden grail

hidden grail Feb 16, 2017, 8:45 PM

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ok, just making sure 😃

molten pulsar Feb 17, 2017, 9:11 AM

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anyone else having texture issues? Whenever I look around the textures pop in white and then turn normal

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mostly on vegetation I think

sly rover Feb 18, 2017, 2:02 PM

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It happens sometimes. An SSD could fix it, or loading the entire game into a ram disk.

molten pulsar Feb 18, 2017, 2:12 PM

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I guess it's a opengl/driver/amd issue

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it's all the time and I'm already running on a SSD 😦

short tulip Feb 18, 2017, 4:55 PM

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I notice that at Camp Gori, looking straight at the stone building that looks like a bunker and looking away, the entire ground is invisible for a few seconds.

hidden grail Feb 18, 2017, 5:01 PM

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Arma event ! Join the emp's Event server
mumble server: armaonunix.ddns.net

quasi orchid Feb 18, 2017, 5:42 PM

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now?

hidden grail Feb 18, 2017, 6:11 PM

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yes

short tulip Feb 18, 2017, 6:39 PM

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I'm terribly sorry. I really didn't have a good time on the server today. And I'm mostly appalled by my own behavior. I got kicked twice just in the lobby. And I don't even know why. And without even bothering to figure out what I was doing wrong, I reconnected both times. I then proceeded to crash vehicles and kill a friendly (I didn't realize he was a friendly, but ignorance is no excuse). About the only good thing I did today was blow myself up with a grenade. That was my only enemy kill and my only contribution to the team.

quasi orchid Feb 18, 2017, 7:03 PM

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Well I also couldn't distinguish between us and the enemy. IT was fucked up somehow

hidden grail Feb 18, 2017, 7:38 PM

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it was the veteran difficulty

quasi orchid Feb 18, 2017, 7:41 PM

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well lets do that again

hidden grail Feb 18, 2017, 7:55 PM

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you can join anytime you wont, we just finished a race

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ty for the game guys, it was fun

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@short tulip I have no idea what causes the kicks, but more people have problems with this

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if you are not familiar with the game veteran difficulty can be pretty confusing, I kill my team mates even after I have plaed ~600h 😄

quasi orchid Feb 18, 2017, 8:42 PM

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I never got kicked. Only thing was an error about a jpg that is missing after a session

glass grotto Feb 19, 2017, 12:29 PM

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Is the arma 3 launcher just windows ?

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just saw it. 😦

hidden grail Feb 19, 2017, 3:49 PM

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yes, there is no official launcher for linux/mac

quasi orchid Feb 19, 2017, 5:03 PM

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I play ARMA on a MacBook with external Monitor. IS it possible to make the mouse work during the game only on one monitor. e.g. I am looking with binocolars in Arma from left to right. If I click then on something I am in on my other monitor

glass grotto Feb 21, 2017, 9:29 PM

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do you use the second one ?

quasi orchid Feb 21, 2017, 10:36 PM

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yes

quasi orchid Feb 23, 2017, 5:32 PM

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nobody an idea?

hidden grail Feb 23, 2017, 6:07 PM

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cant you disable the second screen while playing ?

quasi orchid Feb 23, 2017, 6:25 PM

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I play on the second one and the first one is my laptop.

hidden grail Feb 23, 2017, 7:13 PM

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and cant you disable the laptop screen ?

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or you need it on ?

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I have no idea 😄

quasi orchid Feb 23, 2017, 7:16 PM

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i cant I guess. never tried

hidden grail Feb 23, 2017, 7:18 PM

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if you cant, install linux in that case 😃

quasi orchid Feb 23, 2017, 7:21 PM

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mhh what would be the terminal/bash command for activating and inactivating a screen

hidden grail Feb 23, 2017, 7:24 PM

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on linux ?

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you can use gui for that 😃

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on mac the command will be something different, as mac does not use Xserver afaik

sly rover Feb 26, 2017, 5:42 PM

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@quasi orchid In the config files, you can specify which screen to use

quasi orchid Feb 26, 2017, 5:43 PM

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Yeah but will the mouse be limited to that screen?

sly rover Feb 26, 2017, 5:43 PM

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For me it is

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But I don't know, I don't use a mac

quasi orchid Feb 26, 2017, 5:44 PM

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Ah ok.

sly rover Feb 26, 2017, 5:44 PM

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Unless if my mouse is actually displayed (on the map, in the menus)

quasi orchid Feb 26, 2017, 5:44 PM

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ok will try

sly rover Feb 26, 2017, 5:44 PM

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Then I can move it to other displays, but that is expected behavior.

molten pulsar Mar 2, 2017, 10:03 AM

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has there been any word about a possible 64-bit Linux client yet? 😁

quasi orchid Mar 2, 2017, 2:17 PM

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not yet!

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where are mods stored after installing using STEAM. They are gone missing after download. Tried KA TRYK Revision. Didn't found anything in Users/name/Library/Application Support/Steam/Steammaps/Common/ARMA3

gritty shard Mar 2, 2017, 2:46 PM

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@Werekorden#0504 workshop content should be saved in the .../steamapps/workshop/content/107410 folder - the path could have a different capitalisation

quasi orchid Mar 2, 2017, 5:19 PM

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Yes indeed there is a folder 765024652 where the TRYK mod-Files are in it.

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started the mod by adding "-mod=@ 107410"

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unfortunately the mod won't work properly

blissful ravine Mar 3, 2017, 3:57 PM

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https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/looks-like-the-experimental-linux-version-of-arma-3-will-get-the-64bit-treatment.9232

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https://steamdb.info/app/107410/depots/?branch=port_168-64

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😍

left fog Mar 3, 2017, 4:35 PM

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grumbles ... i told you so ;)

hidden grail Mar 3, 2017, 4:43 PM

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👏 👏 👏

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@quasi orchid there should be no space after @

molten pulsar Mar 3, 2017, 6:09 PM

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nice 😃

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wait, 1.68. Does this mean they're getting quite close to tracking each other?! 😁

short tulip Mar 4, 2017, 4:46 AM

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Ooh boy. This might mean that the branches might sync up. We'll get to play with the rest of the community.

left fog Mar 4, 2017, 12:12 PM

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don't be too excited too soon

hidden grail Mar 4, 2017, 2:24 PM

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if we will be on par with win version, we would need some proper arma launcher to be able to use mods

dry venture Mar 4, 2017, 3:46 PM

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i hope we will have them on par this year

covert quiver Mar 4, 2017, 4:11 PM

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would be freakin awesome

short tulip Mar 4, 2017, 4:57 PM

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I downloaded 26GB of terrain mods from the Steam Workshop and then found out that none of them work. I guess I need a launcher for that. Also the mod for lego soliders and MLP soldiers. Also not working.

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I guess I need a launcher to use it.

dry venture Mar 4, 2017, 5:01 PM

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doesn't standard @modname works?

quasi orchid Mar 4, 2017, 7:37 PM

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@hidden grail Sure That is the case. there is no space between the @ and the Foldername. But maybe the Enemy Contact Mission somehow doesn't work on mac with the Mod because of folder structure!

hidden grail Mar 4, 2017, 10:22 PM

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@quasi orchid , @short tulip the problem is probably that you need to copy/move/symlink the mods from the workshop folder into the Arma3 folder

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or at least you had to do this with the previous arma version, I am not sure if this is needed also with the newest (linux/mac) version

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 9:05 AM

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Ah thx emp64 I will try

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 11:56 AM

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@hidden grail mhh tried it with both fodlers. the ARMA3 Folder under Users/name/Library/Application Support/Steam/Steammaps/Common/ARMA3 and with the Addon Folder under Users/name/Library/Application Support/Steam/Steammaps/Common/ARMA3/Addons

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The Mod is shown in the startscreen of ARMA3 and the Mission Addon is also shown. so it is somehow loaded but won't use the files if MIssion is started

wise canyon Mar 5, 2017, 12:47 PM

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https://github.com/muttleyxd/arma3-unix-launcher

hidden grail Mar 5, 2017, 1:08 PM

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@quasi orchid put it here Users/name/Library/Application Support/Steam/Steammaps/Common/ARMA3

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not into addons

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 4:38 PM

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Yes emp64 I tried this path as well as the addon path. But I will make a clean install and try again

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thx for the help sofar

molten pulsar Mar 5, 2017, 4:45 PM

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@quasi orchid you should probably check http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=29755

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Linux and Mac are in no way different from Windows

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besides the paths

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 4:46 PM

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Thx will do

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 9:09 PM

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Alright Now the Mod is installed. the issue was that the symlink didn' worked properly.

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Now I it happens that ARMA crashes after starting Enemy Contact with Error Code: Bad Version 73 in p3d file essgoogles\headset2.p3d

gritty sage Mar 5, 2017, 9:11 PM

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The Mod has a Model that requires a newer Arma version that the one currently available

quasi orchid Mar 5, 2017, 9:11 PM

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damn

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couldn't find that in steams workshop

molten pulsar Mar 6, 2017, 1:29 PM

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hmm is there a way to disable the workshop subscriptions just for the port(s)?

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e.g. I want Windows to keep the workshop subscriptions but not on Linux since most of the mods are incompatible anyway wasting away disk space ^^

hidden grail Mar 6, 2017, 9:06 PM

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probably not, but if you find a way please share it, from time to time I am getting some mod inspiration from win servers 😃

molten pulsar Mar 11, 2017, 9:42 PM

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hmm seems like copy & paste isn't working from e.g. vim to the game (debug console)

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copy & paste from game to game works fine

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could be related to wayland though

hidden grail Mar 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

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same issue with Xorg

quasi orchid Mar 12, 2017, 3:26 PM

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do we know which addons work with our port?

molten pulsar Mar 12, 2017, 3:48 PM

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well, pretty much all of them that don't target 1.66 config / scripting features 😛

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the shitty part is that pretty much only withSix keeps track of older versions of mods

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which obviously doesn't work on linux/mac

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basically everything that has been released before 2016-12-01 will work unless they use DLLs (e.g. ACE3)

hidden grail Mar 12, 2017, 4:51 PM

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hey everyone, Arma 3 event starts in 10 minutes on the emp's Event server, feel free to come and join us
will see you on the battlefield ⚔

hidden grail Mar 12, 2017, 9:16 PM

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gg wp

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@quasi orchid for some reason you need to restart the game from time to time, otherwise the fps will continue decreasing

short tulip Mar 12, 2017, 9:18 PM

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Yeah. I'm doing that too.

quasi orchid Mar 12, 2017, 10:27 PM

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yes indeed. after 2.5h of gaming it dropped dramatically

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but it was also a problem of beeing in Paros with so many vehicles fire and people. I am playing on a laptop

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and my graphic card is not supported by ARMA3

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only my onboard graphics work

hidden grail Mar 13, 2017, 8:04 AM

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Also sound mods might drastically lower your fps during gunfights, especially jrsr

quasi orchid Mar 13, 2017, 8:04 AM

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have no mods in

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but thx fot the info

molten pulsar Mar 16, 2017, 9:45 AM

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I wonder what the reasoning is behind the Linux/Mac Arma: Cold War Assault port being a separate steam title

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and will this happen with A3 if it ever gets out of the experimental stage?

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probably not because of the price difference but still wondering 😃

dry venture Mar 16, 2017, 7:06 PM

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"oh, man, not like this, not like cod...what's next? separate mp, oh wait" (c) some guy from internet

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i think they will stay the same, cause it's the basics of steam features/capabilities

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+mac/linux user number is not that big enough to support its community

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and what I mean is community of players that develop the game, make it breath look into stalker series 8 years and has new featues and even dx12 support in development by modders

forest walrus Mar 18, 2017, 4:17 PM

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Is it worth it to get Arma 3 to play on a mac right now? I'm a little confused about the whole seperate version system from that of windows. I'm pretty much only wanting to buy the game to play dayz.

molten pulsar Mar 18, 2017, 4:26 PM

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there is no "DayZ" for Arma 3

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there are plenty of "clones" though but you might be limited to older versions of those mods since the ports are a bit behind

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currently it's 1.64 for the ports and 1.68 for Windows

hidden grail Mar 18, 2017, 5:22 PM

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the only alternatives to Dayz mod for Arma 3 atm is Exile with zombies and Epoch with zombies. As we have now version 1.64 there are no server with these mods (or maybe there is one or two but without players).

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I would say that unless we will get on par with windows it is not worth it

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I used to host a server with Exile and zombies, but I dont do that anymore, as there was only a few players playing it.

short tulip Mar 18, 2017, 5:24 PM

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Just about the only servers on 1.64 are mostly empty anyway.

hidden grail Mar 18, 2017, 5:25 PM

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yeah, sadly true

short tulip Mar 18, 2017, 5:28 PM

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I don't know what server mods are worth it with low player numbers. But I'm now convinced that Liberation just doesn't work. After all the hours I spent last Sunday trying to take over a single city, I'm now convinced we'll need several times the max force we had back then to be able to make any progress, and they are going to need to be willing to stick with it.

gritty sage Mar 18, 2017, 5:31 PM

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Our public Server is running Liberation on chernarus currently. No problem clearing citys just with 2 players. :x

hidden grail Mar 18, 2017, 5:39 PM

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really ?

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when i play it they are just recking us even if there is 6 man squad

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back in the days when we had 1.54 Liberation was ok and we took over the whole island several times

short tulip Mar 18, 2017, 5:42 PM

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On the day of the event, I think the player count hovered around 4-6 people for the most part. We were stuck trying to take one city, and we just couldn't.

hidden grail Mar 18, 2017, 5:43 PM

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also lately there is a lot of new players and there is no cooperation between them

hidden grail Mar 18, 2017, 6:29 PM

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we took now one city, and there was only 2 of us

molten pulsar Mar 18, 2017, 8:29 PM

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lower the aiming precision in the server's profile 😛

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AI skill at 0.7 or higher and precision around 0.3-ish works well for small player counts

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for me anyway, might be a little less challenging but more enjoyable I guess ^^

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you'll still get mowed down if you make a mistake so no worries there 😁

covert quiver Mar 18, 2017, 9:11 PM

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I have crashes after around 30 minutes playing, then if i restart i can play like 10 minutes, and when it crashes and i restart the game again i can't play. Must restart whole computer that i can play again. Log after third crash: http://pastebin.com/DCpZy21R

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anyone has same issues and maybe fixed it?

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oh and i also have strange noises during playing

short tulip Mar 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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From your speakers? Or your fans?

covert quiver Mar 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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no, gamerelated ofc out of my headphones

short tulip Mar 18, 2017, 9:13 PM

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What CPU are you using?

covert quiver Mar 18, 2017, 9:14 PM

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i5 6600k

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only during playing arma

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found an guy on reddit who has the same issue with the sound and he said nobody else in the bi forums has it

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and he uses like me ArchLinux, maybe its related to it.

molten pulsar Mar 19, 2017, 8:49 AM

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strange noises as in glitchy? Turn on vsync

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on my system the sound goes weird as soon as I go above 60 fps 😛

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(on Fedora though)

covert quiver Mar 19, 2017, 10:38 AM

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ok will try 😄 ty

covert quiver Mar 19, 2017, 2:26 PM

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@molten pulsar fixed all 2 problems thx

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anyone know when the problem low fps after long time playing gets fixed?

dry venture Mar 19, 2017, 3:09 PM

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as it was on win - memory leak, fixed in some patch as i remember

covert quiver Mar 21, 2017, 6:00 PM

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didnt fixed the game crashes at me, this time i got an error message which is full of strange stuff, like that my temp folder is C:/tmp/arma3z8I967/ or the internal library netapi32.dll is loaded in the game

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on linux

strange mango Mar 24, 2017, 9:57 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma:_Cold_War_Assault_Mac/Linux_Port

scenic sleet Mar 24, 2017, 5:35 PM

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@short tulip Did you secure all the radio towers adjacent to the city? We've had no problems taking even the largest cities with a small number in Liberation in the past, but the key is making sure they can't call reinforcements by taking all the surrounding targets first

short tulip Mar 24, 2017, 5:37 PM

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I never thought of doing anything other than just going into the city and killing any enemies I can find.

hidden grail Mar 24, 2017, 8:06 PM

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😮 I didnt know that they can call the reinforcement thanks to the towers

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they should rather use satelite phones

scenic sleet Mar 25, 2017, 11:28 AM

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nearby bases and radio towers can both make it much more difficult to secure objectives. With radio towers in particular causing waves of heavy reinforcements that can make it practically impossible to completely secure a city

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but take all the radio towers around the city first and you'll see maybe just one or two light waves of reinforcements - air dropped infantry mostly

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 10:56 AM

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so, what's the password for the port_168-64 branch? 😜

main latch Mar 28, 2017, 1:47 PM

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good question!

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Hi guys, any of you have tried to install arma 3 linux on steam this days?

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i've tried 3 times and always get a corrupt download

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 1:59 PM

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I've been playing ARMA 3 on Linux lately. It worked without a hitch.

main latch Mar 28, 2017, 2:00 PM

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i see, so the problem is only to install it (for me )

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 2:00 PM

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must be a precursor for 1.68 release 😁

main latch Mar 28, 2017, 2:00 PM

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i hope! 😃

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 2:02 PM

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try downloading it with the legacy branch (pass: Arma3LegacyPorts)

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might help somehow

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 2:07 PM

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I tried opting into the development build and got a 0 byte download. I tried opting into the legacy build and got a 2.1 MB download. I opted out of the beta and got another 2.1 MB download. Looks like the mainline build, the development build, and the legacy build are all 1.64.

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 2:07 PM

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mhm they are

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development was way older though last I tried

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like 1.52 ish

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 2:08 PM

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1.58

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 2:08 PM

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close enough 😄

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 2:17 PM

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@main latch If your downloads are turning out as corrupt, maybe it's a problem with your download region, and changing to another one will give you a better download.

main latch Mar 28, 2017, 2:43 PM

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i changed them 3 times, from Venezuela, to Miami and Brasil.

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i've downloaded the game 3 times, 19 gigas everytime.

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:/

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 2:44 PM

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I don't know, then.

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 2:50 PM

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do you have enough disk space?

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 3:24 PM

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@short tulip according to steamdb the 1.68 branch is passworded

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you need to guess the right password ... or use dictionary attack 😄

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 3:24 PM

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Oooh. So it really is up?

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 3:25 PM

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https://steamdb.info/app/107410/depots/?branch=port_168-64

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updated 4 days ago 😃

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maybe release on next sitrep ?

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🤞

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 3:34 PM

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I'm not sure if I'm ready for 64 bit. My overbloated web browser and all the other stuff makes it so that I only have a few GB of RAM to work with for any game that I launch. ARMA 3 wound up maxing out my system and bringing my computer to it's knees on a few occasions. If the game will start consuming more RAM than ever before, this will happen very easily. I'm going to make plans to upgrade it as soon as possible, but it's going to have to be the second priority.

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 3:36 PM

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I tried it on windows for a short gameplay and it does not seem to eat much more RAM

short tulip Mar 28, 2017, 3:36 PM

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Okay. Cool.

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 3:37 PM

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also AFAIK you can use some arma command line argument to set the max amount of RAM it can use

main latch Mar 28, 2017, 4:46 PM

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@molten pulsar yes, i have lots of empty space on my disk

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 4:49 PM

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did you try verifying the files after download?

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like with the steam verify files thing

quasi orchid Mar 28, 2017, 5:00 PM

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So the obvious passwords are not working like the legacyports password.

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 7:24 PM

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it wont be legacy anymore 😄

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but I got there a new rc branch

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according to steamdb that one was updated a day ago

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but its still 1.64

molten pulsar Mar 28, 2017, 7:47 PM

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isn't that the 1.68 hotfix testing branch?

hidden grail Mar 28, 2017, 8:51 PM

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dunno, but I still got 1.64 when I downloaded it

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but if it is win branch it would not work

scenic sleet Mar 29, 2017, 9:09 AM

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@short tulip So Arma devs worked very hard to make the game run with just 2GB of memory, which is all that's available to a single process in 32bit Windows. The switch to 64bit doesn't mean it will immediately start using considerably more RAM, it just means that it's less constrained when it actually needs a few extra MB. It should mean that it doesn't need to drop cached data from memory to make room which results in frame drops.

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For Linux though, it should have an important additional effect because the EON wrapper had to also put textures etc into system RAM, so that means it was sharing 4GB between the game itself and data that would on Windows have gone into VRAM, that means depending on resolution you couldn't make out the texture resolution etc because there just wasn't enough RAM available

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with 64bit, we might finally be able to play Arma 3 in resolutions above 1920x1080 with everything maxed

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and for some people (Liam from Gaming on Linux), it means being able to play at any resolution with textures set higher than 'low'

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that's the dream at least

wise canyon Mar 29, 2017, 9:32 AM

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32 bit processes on Windows are not limited to 2GB of RAM, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx

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switching to 64bit actually will immediately consume more memory since you're switching from 32bit to "64bit" (actually 48bit in todays CPUs) memory pointers

scenic sleet Mar 29, 2017, 10:41 AM

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@wise canyon did you even read that link?

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large address support for Arma 3 wasn't added until 1.64, hence it was limited to 2GB for the 3 years since it was launched

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and even now, it's limited to 3GB for 32bit

wise canyon Mar 29, 2017, 10:43 AM

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yes, exactly, it's not limited to 2GB

scenic sleet Mar 29, 2017, 10:43 AM

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switching from 32bit to 64bit pointers uses such a tiny amount of additional memory that's it's hardly worth mentioning

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WTF?

covert quiver Mar 29, 2017, 3:19 PM

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<@&105622502444711936> circa ETA for the arma 3 ports 168 update?

sly rover Mar 29, 2017, 7:44 PM

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I don't think mentioning all of them will get us an announcement any sooner.

graceful compass Mar 29, 2017, 7:47 PM

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As always, we'll share any relevant ifnromation in a SITREP when it's appropriate 😃

sly rover Mar 29, 2017, 7:47 PM

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Thanks anyway <3

covert quiver Mar 30, 2017, 5:31 PM

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thanks 😃

dry venture Mar 30, 2017, 8:55 PM

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Feral release mad max vulkan beta for linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFevTC0RTEo

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 12:35 PM

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@dry venture wrong channel this more belongs to #other_games_chat as Arma 3 don't use opengl at all (by default (not talking about ports)) ,
re video, overally it's as expected Vulkan is faster than OpenGL ... (still lot of devs will like Opengl as it's less work than Vulkan, let's hope that change in future)

dry venture Mar 31, 2017, 2:55 PM

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what about dx12 and metal? heard that they have someprebuilt stuff so there is less work and faster transitioning from to dx12/vulkan/metal

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 3:23 PM

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well DX12 maybe , also because of rest of the directx packages (i/o, sound etc), can't really tell much about Metal considering that's what should die and be replaced with Vulkan

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but i respect Apple made it 'ready' years before anyone else, mainly influenced by Mantle

scenic sleet Mar 31, 2017, 4:44 PM

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we shouldn't hold our breath for Vulkan support in Arma 4 (if it happens)

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still, it's nice to dream of a day when we have a fully native Arma game on linux

short tulip Mar 31, 2017, 4:45 PM

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Why can't we expect Vulkan support in ARMA 4? There's plenty of good reasons why they can support Vulkan, and not really any good reason for them to go with DX12.

scenic sleet Mar 31, 2017, 4:46 PM

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DX isn't just graphics

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and Dwarden has been pretty critical of the alternatives

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(for sound, input etc)

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plus they are and always have been a DX shop, not sure I can see them giving up those years of experience to learn something entirely new

short tulip Mar 31, 2017, 4:48 PM

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Well, they'd have to give up their experience with DX11 to learn DX12 anyway. It's not transferrable.

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 5:14 PM

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@short tulip because Vulkan is 2 years too late to the fray to be fair ... it's hope for the new generation of games tho

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but one shall never say never ... so i will not deny nor confirm whatever that means

short tulip Mar 31, 2017, 5:18 PM

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I think DOOM 4 is a good demonstration of what Vulkan can do in an actual game. Star Citizen is also going to be switching to Vulkan as well.

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 5:20 PM

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i'm not arguing which one is better, Vulkan is good because it's widely adoptable standard over multiple platforms

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it just came too late to ensure propriertary solutions aren't strong

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approx as OpenGl 4.x 😉 ... was taking too long to happen

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so, for future Linux takeover, i suggest you tell the nix guys, to speed up the schedule by 2 years

short tulip Mar 31, 2017, 5:22 PM

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But speeding up the schedule on things only causes things to come out badly.

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 5:22 PM

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well, like the other APis are perfect 😁

scenic sleet Mar 31, 2017, 5:35 PM

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the audio device issue in the linux port since 1.58? really needs fixing, drives me crazy that I have to exit the game every time I need to switch to my wireless headphones :/

left fog Mar 31, 2017, 5:36 PM

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i hope you reported it to VP / A3FT too ofc

scenic sleet Mar 31, 2017, 5:43 PM

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believe I did, but we're talking a year ago so my memory is hazy

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it may have been an intentional decision, since the ability to switch devices on the fly is controlled by a flag to PulseAudio so maybe it was causing issues for some people and they disabled it as the 'quick' fix

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will dig through the tracker and see whether I did actually report it there and not just in the forums etc

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pretty sure I didn't report it directly to VP, they aren't exactly the most approachable bunch

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Found this ticket, which isn't mine but describes the issue - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T117022

molten pulsar Mar 31, 2017, 5:51 PM

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doesn't that also happen on the Windows client? Fairly sure that switching between motherboard and USB sound required a restart last time I had an USB audio device

scenic sleet Mar 31, 2017, 6:06 PM

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duuno, but it wasn't an issue in earlier releases

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and since it's a flag set at the API level in the case of pulseaudio (audio framework/apis on linux) the issue is in the wrapper not the game itself

short tulip Apr 1, 2017, 12:29 AM

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If I have the main audio set to stereo, the change in audio doesn't matter. On my Linux install, it's not about going between the speaker jack in the back of the motherboard or going to the port that leads to the headphone jack on the front. It's a matter of changing between 5.1 audio and stereo. So if it's just Stereo, I can change between headphones and speakers in the game without the audio crashing. Also, there is a short in my front headphone port where it will go back to speaker if the headphones aren't positioned just right. I managed to mitigate that issue, however.

sly rover Apr 1, 2017, 3:10 AM

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Because I have other games with the same issue, I just have my games audio device as the pulseaudio default and set everything else manually

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There aren't as many applications that play sound and aren't games, and they all allow switching, so it makes it easier.

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As for DX12 vs Vulkan, only d3d12 is not transferable from d3d11

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The rest of the api should be pretty similar, I think

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Like audio, input, windowing, or whatever else it provides

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SDL can do the same stuff, as far as I know, and is crossplatform, while also making it easy for users to configure things without needing options in the game (like preventing the game from minimizing on focus loss)

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But that doesn't mean it is easy to switch to SDL + Vulkan/OpenGL vs DX

scenic sleet Apr 1, 2017, 10:52 AM

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HERO the problem is that my bluetooth headphones disappear as a device when they aren't switched on, which means they can't be the default device

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if I want them to work I actually have to power them on, then disable all other devices and only then will Arma use it

quasi orchid Apr 1, 2017, 12:56 PM

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I am "complaining" that the emp64 servers are down 😉 . Hope they come up again. Thx emp64 for your work sofar. It was great to play together

hidden grail Apr 1, 2017, 2:00 PM

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hey @quasi orchid sry for that, I restarted the server and forget to start the arma servers

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I have to setup cron to start those automatically 😄

quasi orchid Apr 1, 2017, 2:04 PM

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no problem I properly should go outside. 22°C and sunny

hidden grail Apr 1, 2017, 2:06 PM

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😄

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no way

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sun is also in arma

quasi orchid Apr 1, 2017, 2:06 PM

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sure

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maybe I do both

hidden grail Apr 1, 2017, 2:08 PM

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best is to go to some restaurant where you can sit outside with a laptop and play there connected to their wifi

covert quiver Apr 1, 2017, 3:55 PM

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nice joke, what nasa laptop do u use for playing arma? 😄

quasi orchid Apr 1, 2017, 4:04 PM

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I use a MacBook Pro retina

sly rover Apr 1, 2017, 6:15 PM

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@scenic sleet You could still turn on your headphones, set them as the default, then start the game.

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If that was more convenient

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Among other ways that are probably less useful

hidden grail Apr 2, 2017, 2:36 PM

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not sure if NASA uses laptops for their work 😄

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I got and i7-4702mq and gtx760m

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and i mostly got 35-55fps

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not speaking about the new laptops with 1060 which are almost on par with a desktop rig

verbal nova Apr 2, 2017, 2:40 PM

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Kind folk of penguin land. There appears to be a wee penguin in #looking_for_unit that could benefit from your knowledge.

hidden grail Apr 2, 2017, 2:52 PM

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thx for echo -FM-

verbal nova Apr 2, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Np. Figured you guys had all the info on that.

gritty sage Apr 8, 2017, 5:25 AM

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/594550/ Arma 1 is also available for Linux now? Interesting

scenic sleet Apr 8, 2017, 7:59 AM

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yeah, a month back

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hoping they do the whole series

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for that reason, it's odd that they started with the oldest since demand for it is going to be lower than the newer games

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I've bought it out of nostalgia anyway

molten pulsar Apr 8, 2017, 11:26 AM

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it was probably the easiest due to DX8 or 9 I guess

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or 7 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

scenic sleet Apr 8, 2017, 12:15 PM

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right, it's just that if they use it as the metric for demand ...

molten pulsar Apr 8, 2017, 12:34 PM

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anyone know if the file patching stuff works on the (linux) port?

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I guess replicating the P drive folder structure in the A3 root should work?

short tulip Apr 8, 2017, 1:02 PM

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My understanding for why they ported Cold War Assault to Linux is that the story was very well received.

scenic sleet Apr 8, 2017, 5:57 PM

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just started it after buying it a couple of weeks back and it hangs for me 😦 Might be related to me trying to play it in 4k though

sly rover Apr 9, 2017, 12:03 AM

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Nostalgia can be a strong force too

scenic sleet Apr 9, 2017, 8:43 AM

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does anyone know where the Arma: CWA port is storing settings? I need to blow the config away but I'm not able to find it

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nevermind, found it ... hate it when that happens, spend 30 minutes searching, ask for help and then find it 20 seconds later

scenic sleet Apr 9, 2017, 9:15 AM

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well deleting the config and reinstalling didn't help, now it just won't start at all

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apparently I've played 42 minutes of the game, yet I've not managed to actually play a single second 😦

scenic sleet Apr 9, 2017, 10:04 AM

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well finally got it working. I think the nostalgia bubble burst in the first minute 😄

scenic sleet Apr 10, 2017, 9:40 AM

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Has anyone tested to see if TrackIR support works in the linux client? OpenTrack works on linux apparently, so in theory something could be cobbled together

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thinking I might experiment with it, and get EDTracker

molten pulsar Apr 12, 2017, 11:26 AM

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my ports release sense is tingling 😁

hidden grail Apr 12, 2017, 2:30 PM

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why ? steamdb ?

molten pulsar Apr 12, 2017, 2:37 PM

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mhm some activity again 😃

hidden grail Apr 12, 2017, 2:43 PM

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next tuesday or wednesday would be nice, but in CZ there are holidays comming

quasi orchid Apr 12, 2017, 6:11 PM

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Uuuuuuu PLEASE make us a eastern present!!!!!!

scenic sleet Apr 13, 2017, 8:38 AM

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well Dwarden has already said he would prefer the port skip 1.68 given it contained so many bugs and go straight to 1.70, since 1.70 hasn't even been released for Windows yet ...

molten pulsar Apr 13, 2017, 9:44 AM

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well he didn't say it in here

left fog Apr 13, 2017, 11:03 AM

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that was personal opinion not company stance

hidden grail Apr 13, 2017, 3:36 PM

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will we get some day support for extensions ? like the ones in TFAR and ACE

molten pulsar Apr 13, 2017, 3:48 PM

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that's the job of those mods though

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assuming that extensions do work on the engine side

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they "just" have to recompile their extensions for Linux

gritty sage Apr 13, 2017, 4:06 PM

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You will. Once the Mod authors think it's worth the effort

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TFAR needs to completly rewrite the interface between Teamspeak and Game. And a bunch of the Teamspeak stuff also has to be Rewritten. So.. Not worth it right now.

scenic sleet Apr 13, 2017, 4:41 PM

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ACRE/TFAR both use a windows only API to teamspeak

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maybe one day we'll get a Radio DLC for arma that brings some of the best bits of TFAR/ACRE to Arma

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although in the past some have criticised BI for implementing features in the engine which were previously only available in mods, because it hurts the mod authors feelings or something equally silly

gritty sage Apr 13, 2017, 4:57 PM

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TFAR just recently changed it's interface from Windows NamedPipes to sharedMemory. That will be far easier to convert to Linux. But there is still a ton of Windows Only stuff in the Teamspeak Plugin. It's not thaat much work.. I guess 3 weeks tops. But I don't have any Linux dev environment and also don't play Arma on Linux which I would need to test all of that.

molten pulsar Apr 13, 2017, 5:48 PM

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oops, completely forgot about the teamspeak side of TFAR/ACRE 😁

scenic sleet Apr 13, 2017, 6:02 PM

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yeah, it's a shame we have both TeamSpeak and Arma on linux, but the bit in the middle is still Windows only

gritty sage Apr 13, 2017, 6:15 PM

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TFAR and ACRE are Open-source. Anyone could do the Linux compat

gritty shard Apr 13, 2017, 6:21 PM

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port v1.54 had no support for extensions - can't say anything about the later versions

scenic sleet Apr 13, 2017, 8:02 PM

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@gritty sage I miss the days when I had enough free time to work on personal projects :/

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though unless I'm looking in the wrong place in the source, there really doesn't seem to be much to TFAR ... I'm intrigued

gritty sage Apr 13, 2017, 9:11 PM

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I think the Teamspeak plugin was about 3k lines of code in a single file before the rewrite

dry venture Apr 14, 2017, 9:18 AM

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there was some radio mode with crossplatform support

gritty sage Apr 14, 2017, 3:31 PM

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The Arma Radio script thingy is crossplatformish

hidden grail Apr 14, 2017, 5:03 PM

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@left fog will the jet DLC work also on linux/mac ? Is it worth buying for us ?

gritty sage Apr 14, 2017, 5:05 PM

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I'd say it will be ported like any other DLC has been ported so far. I don't see any reason why not. Most of it are scripts and Models which don't need any effort when porting. The Engine stuff that was added is probably also not Platform dependent. Sooner or Later everything will be ported to Linux/mac

quasi orchid Apr 15, 2017, 8:45 AM

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I hope they release it simultaneously, so linux and windows users alike can play together on the same build/versions, it would be a very good move, and a big dlc update is the perfect opportunity to do so...

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Ah, well... It's hoping for something that likely wont happen...

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And even if they did, it probably wont last long with windows getting all these smaller "fix patches" every so often.
They could if they wanted to, but theres nothing to gain for them by doing so it seems.

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Unless sales and such prove them otherwise.

Also how long will it take for modders to make that new carrier driver enabled i wonder XD

covert quiver Apr 15, 2017, 9:10 AM

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i think its impossible because of the arma engine

dry venture Apr 15, 2017, 10:05 AM

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@ДѴДЯЦS LЦЖ#2554 it's not about sales, it's about customer happiness, why all or most of really successfull apps have mac/linux versions? cause it's not that much( 5-10%) to do but the effect is much greater (watch blizzard)

quasi orchid Apr 15, 2017, 10:16 AM

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@covert quiver its not impossible due to the arma engine, if that was the case there would not be a port possible in the first place, there are many developers who have similtaneous development on multiplatform. just delay the windows updates and synchronise work on both/all platform, its not that hard at all. that and you already can play together with windows users, but only if they are willing to use legacy builds... so cross platform is very much a thing here and the engine works just fine.

@dry venture its as much about sales as it is about customer happiness, sales indicate customer happiness as well as it indicates demand, and for some reason there just hasn't been that much incentive to synchronise the builds yet, but maybe that is because there isn't enough demand for it yet and customers, as is, are just happy/satisfied enough that there is arma on linux to begin with in the first place...
multiplatform games always perform better over a similar single platform game because you can reach a larger audience, so if the game is good you naturally have a bigger overall effect.

and developers like blizzard synchronise builds on purpose for the reasons of having the same gameplay experience and options across the board. this is important especially for multiplayer games, thats why i am really questioning why they havent done this for arma yet, which when you are honest trives mostly on tis multiplayer and modding support... not the singleplayer.