pboProject had an 'undocumented feature' ๐ท
#arma3_tools
dawn palm
wind elm
"feature" ๐
dawn palm
actually, it was such a glaring error I am surprised it took this long. only way it survived is that no-one seems to want to use anything else except P:\
orchid shadow
Finally soon I can reenable the pbo Delta patching
meager falcon
what?
orchid shadow
What?
ornate wasp
Minor update of "Visual Studio Code: SQF Language", includes fixes for the latest VS Code release.
tame monolith
I programmed an Extension in Visual Studio C++ and it worked perfectly fine. I used the wiki entry ( https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Extensions ) as a reference. Now I want to switch to an other IDE (CLion from JetBrains) which workes with CMake and the MinGW GNU compiler. I cannot get any code to work with Arma. It seems like the interface is not set up correctly, because when I try to load the extension in Arma, the .dll is locked (I cannot delete the file). But I cannot get any response out of the Extension. [My set up: Win7, 64 bit but Arma + DLL still at 32bit] Has someone Experience with stuff like that?
hallow rapids
well, what does the interface look like?
did you statically link libstdc++? If not, did you place the libstdc++ dll in path?
karmic niche
Always use an external program to load your dll manually and check if it loads and works correctly. It really helps and is about 20 lines of code!
It's really astonishing so few people do this...
sinful crescent
probably just missing the leading underscore of _RVExtension@12 because of the different function decoration of mingw
tame monolith
Thx to you all, I solved my problem. @sinful crescent you were exactly right. I already thought it might have something to do with the decoration but I couldn't figure how to fix it.
pliant lynx
@wide cedar my apologizes for not adding page to your tools earlier, thank you for your hard work! http://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:armake
if I missed someone elses tool(s), please let me know and they will get added promptly.
wide cedar
@pliant lynx thanks man
nocturne basin
bloody crap ... anybody knows why i get Application load error Q:0000065432 when ArmA gets started from visual studio? need to debug my extension and being too lazy to start it by hand all the time ...
karmic niche
My guess is that it's some steam protection (a very weak one, if that's really a protection because of the workaround).
Workaround: run Arma (Ctrl+F5) and then attach with the debugger.
nocturne basin
yup ... after some time googling now ... it seems to be ...
but the "fix" seems to be that dump ...
karmic niche
You can install the ReAttach plugin for Visual Studio which then makes things even easier:
You do a: Ctrl+F5, Ctrl+R, Ctrl+1 in quick succession and you are already debugging
nocturne basin
sigh ... fuck you steam ...
karmic niche
What do you mean "that dump"?
karmic niche
Been there, done that :P
Really, use ReAttach and it works like a charm. Ctrl+[F5, R, 1]
glossy inlet
build an intermediary extension that forwards the commands to your extension. So you can unload/load yours as you wish.
Build an application to debug the extension instead of doing that in Arma.
I've got a .exe compile of my extension that i use to test. Otherwise i attach after Arma started
nocturne basin
no need actually
CTRL+F5, F5 and changing debug options is enough @karmic niche
now just need to solve why my dll is getting ignored
which is probably (or most likely) me being stupid
karmic niche
If your DLL is ignored, first check it with Dependency Walker and then try to load it by an external 20-line C program.
Once THAT works, troubleshoot by debugging with real Arma
nocturne basin
ye ... think i will just grab some old extension project and rip it apart
karmic niche
You may be surprised but that will actually be faster than starting Arma over and over again ๐
nocturne basin
do not want to speak too much about what i plan as i am not yet sure if i will follow up and do not want to make hopes ... but just need a very basic command set to get working
it essentially is right now just "callExtension" returning an empty string that i need
great ... it is the same ... gah -.-'
elfin oxide
@nocturne basin I would suggest you use a dedicated server instead of the client, put in a emtpy mission just with a init.sqf to make the calls to your extensions and fetch results etc
That way you can test every 30 seconds or so, that should be short enough, and you dont need to think about battleye
Also for basic extensions with the new interface check out this: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/callExtension
nocturne basin
just to close at least that possible problem ... the location of the DLL is supposed to be at "@<AddonName>\MyDll.dll" ... right?
elfin oxide
yes
karmic niche
It will also work if the DLL is in the same directory as Arma 3, as far as I remember
Not for production use, of course ๐
elfin oxide
Stacks suggestion with a simple c program that hooks up the dll and executes it is the better way in development btw
saves alot of time, and can make some problems visible that arma won't tell you
karmic niche
Especially that the required C code is already written in https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Extensions
Copy-Paste!
...or not? ๐
karmic niche
Nope, I see no LoadLibrary in there...
nocturne basin
ok ... to note why that is no solution (would do it exactly like so) is fairly simple: i started thinking about debugging SQF with proper break points ETC.
to do that, i need to hook the script engine
as that bloody issue fucks up not only visual studio but also my x64dbg, i cannot find the ptr of the function handling the script execution that easy ...
--> it is no option to write a sub-tool for testing
karmic niche
Yes, but you were saying that you cannot make your DLL work at all
So first you try to load your DLL with an external program and once that works, you fix all the other problems, including ending world hunger ๐
elfin oxide
Agreed, and @karmic niche i meant have the dll code there in the wiki, not a techbench to run it sry ๐
nocturne basin
#define _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS
#include <Windows.h>
extern "C"
{
__declspec (dllexport) void __stdcall RVExtension(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function);
}
void __stdcall RVExtension(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function)
{
//https://github.com/intercept/intercept/blob/4360bf568d401614b45fed477a97e858dbfaad7b/src/host/intercept_dll/intercept_dll.cpp#L80
uintptr_t game_state_addr = (uintptr_t)*(uintptr_t*)((uintptr_t)output + outputSize + 8);
strcpy(output, "foobartest");
}
BOOL WINAPI DllMain(_In_ HINSTANCE hinstDLL, _In_ DWORD fdwReason, _In_ LPVOID lpvReserved)
{
switch (fdwReason)
{ }
}``` wanna double check?there is nothing inside litterally
but the basic RV hook and a single file containing the DLLMain
glossy inlet
For my hacky stuff I always just inject the DLL using an injector. Would also work if it would be loaded via RVExtension. But I also don't depend of the Stack from the RVExtension call
elfin oxide
you can remove the dllmain btw, since you dont use it at all
nocturne basin
not yet @elfin oxide
elfin oxide
ok ๐
karmic niche
@nocturne basin Why don't you do it in small steps? First make an echo extenstion. Check that it works and then try other stuff
elfin oxide
ohhh intercept you want to use your dll that way
nocturne basin
nope
just got the ptr from there
elfin oxide
echo will work fine
nocturne basin
checked intercept if it was possible with it
gave up after 3 hours
it is right now a simple echo extension @karmic niche
maybe it is the name ๐ค
karmic niche
The big intercept comment fooled me. So that code is not working for you?
nocturne basin
there is nothing working yet
dll never gets callen
never gets bound
maybe it is the name ... checking right now (RVExtension.dll)
nocturne basin
exactly
elfin oxide
No sign it attaches, and you don't get a result either
karmic niche
Seriously...
glossy inlet
Whats your filename and whats your script callExtension line?
Check Dependency Walker
elfin oxide
Check your rpt, if arma tried to attach it ti should contain a: unable to get version file for <name>.dll
nocturne basin
"RVExtension" callExtension "asd" @glossy inlet
karmic niche
- Dependency Walker
- https://github.com/overfl0/Pythia/blob/master/PythiaTester/PythiaTester.cpp#L70 (until the end of the file)
glossy inlet
Also open in Dependency Walker and check if the DLL exports are correct
karmic niche
@nocturne basin If you're refusing to check the most basic things, I will have to start refusing to help you
nocturne basin
when did i refused to check? Oo
karmic niche
Did you check with dependency walker? No
nocturne basin
want to get it working so i can continue
just that i am not able to perform 7000 tasks at once
karmic niche
Did you check with a custom program? No
nocturne basin
custom program: can write you one in 2 seconds
will work
depencendy walker: never heard of it, you just posted the link and raged about me not testing with it
karmic niche
The link is for the custom program actually ๐
glossy inlet
nocturne basin
noticed that too right now ๐
karmic niche
Will you bet 1000$ on that it will work with your current compiler settings? :>
glossy inlet
Btw MulleDK19 already built a realtime SQF debugger. Maybe he can help you with that ^^
nocturne basin
i know
though, i am borred and UI-Editor gone insane mode a little @glossy inlet :3
glossy inlet
So you have experience in reverse engineering yeah? Because you will need that to make something like that. From what i read your C++ knowledge is not that high.. But whatever ^^ none of my business
nocturne basin
well ... we will see
as i said, do not know if i will get this working at all or not
if i do, i successfully REed something
glossy inlet
๐ Have fun then. RE is always an adventure
nocturne basin
tried once already ...
IDA ran the whole day
and was never finished with analyzing
and in the end i lost interest :3
the dependency checker shows up some missing libraries for whatever reason ... not really familiar with the tool too though ...
just opened the dll
glossy inlet
Close all tree entries. If you only see WIndows kernel stuff youre fine. Check the Exports section on the Right. It should have _RVExtension@12
nocturne basin
_RVExtension@12 yes ...
gah ... plan b ...
ohh .. well ... plan b works
for whatever fucking reason -.-'
glossy inlet
Arma engine already has a very nice script debugger builtin btw. But I would guess its disabled in release builds
just call ScriptVM::SetBreakpoint with file and line and a unique breakpoint ID and..... Youre basically done
When that breakpoint is triggered you can step through the script and anything ๐ But there are probably some external tools required to use that to its full extent
nocturne basin
yep http://imgur.com/BEbLBaN ๐
sick verge
@glossy inlet is there some docs on that?
glossy inlet
BI has a debug DLL that uses that whole interface. So they basically have a fully dll accessible Script debugging system.
If you can get at BIDebugEngine.dll (which i can probably) maybe that will even work in the diag build. But I'm very confident that BI disabled that in all Public builds
no
glossy inlet
Ask BI if they could #define SCRIPTVM_DEBUGGING in the diag build. If you get them to do that then I'll build a dll to access that interface. Have fun.
The calls that load the debug engine dll are available in the prof build. but SCRIPTVM_DEBUGGING is not defined in prof build. Don't have access to the real arma3diag.exe right now
You can even step per Line, Statement or Instruction! It would be so beautiful if People had access to that.
This ofcause can't be enabled in Release build. Because performance and hackers and stuff. But I don't see any reason to not enable that in a diag build. But i guess if arguing like that they could also disable JNI in the diag build :D
You can try creating BIDebugEngine.dll in the Games workdir and check if it is being loaded at startup. There is some fun to be had with that ^^
glossy inlet
And if they enable It I'd be happy to provide the documentation for all of that
@prisma dragon Any chance to see that happening? Opening the Script debugging stuff in a diag build? Don't care about performance in a diag build anyway. And alsoi don't think the performance impact of the script debugger is that heavy.
Scripters would be veryyyy happy about that I think.
hallow rapids
I've seen a SQF editing tool thing that had breakpoints working and all
haven't used it but there's some video floating around of it
nocturne basin
yes i know
glossy inlet
Yeah.. MulleDK19's one. Afaik he is hooking the script engine. Which I could also implement. Basically redefine all the disabled Debugging functions. But why do all that if BI can just set one define at compile time and make it all accessible
Just saw diag.exe can't MP. Thats not that nice but I think people can manage
nocturne basin
because BI wont do
hallow rapids
I guess it's more about their internal tools than the interface thing
(for disabling it)
rotund rampart
@ornate wasp have you seen my PR?
vague shard
is there a way to read out the model mass via some tool or o2scripting?
for the latter i found only
<loper>mesh</loper>
<lopertype>ObjectData</lopertype>
<roper>index</roper>
<ropertype>Number</ropertype>
<returntype>Number</returntype>
<description>Gets vertex's mass. Mass is valid only for Gemometry Level</description>
<example>_mesh getMassPoint 10;</example>```as i am not familiar with model structure and such not sure if i get this right.
does one have the loop through all points the geo lod, and add up the mass assigned to each point (with most having none)
glossy inlet
Well the MLOD has a mass variable. For the whole p3d file. But you'd need a parser I think
vague shard
hm from what i know o2/OB shows the total mass in the bottom or so. however actually its just the sum of all mass "boxes" distributed over the model, is it not?
wind elm
Not sure if you mean that but:
does one have the loop through all points the geo lod, and add up the mass assigned to each point
Ctrl+A -> Set the mass -> Mass will be evenly distributed
If you select one vertice of it and set the mass -> Mass will be increased by that point by Mass X and X will be reduced by all the non-selected points. (i hope its understandable)
vague shard
we want to read out the information to make an overview about vegetation to know what are sensible values
(context is despite setting same range of value of armor geo property, cars and tanks can drive them over with no/less resistance compared to BI vegetation)
dawn palm
in ofp times geolod armor= value was respected. no idea if that remains true.
vague shard
ingame needs first classes for all vegetation..
dawn palm
kju, if there is no config class for the object, the engine takes it;s armor value from the p3d
wind elm
@vague shard One big nearObjects with "sorting"out (pushback the filename/path to a "black/AlreadyCheck"-list) function should do it.
Wait, aint we talked about mass?
dawn palm
yes indeed,
wind elm
Me is pretty confused
dawn palm
but kju is mentioning the ability to crush (say) a tree or bush
wind elm
wasn't it defined by the Mass?
Or is it a mix of both?
(wich i assume, when i think about it)
dawn palm
mass== 'bouncability' armor= value before damage= is affected
wind elm
Can you define the Armor Value inside a Model? I am not sure, seeing it anywhere.
dawn palm
i only know, as mentioned, ofp.
wind elm
(or does it take StandardValues, when there is con config for that model?)
dawn palm
but i do mention it, because many/most of the characterstics of ofp remain in the game, and have been forgotten/unused.
wind elm
true
dawn palm
in any case, there's one hell of an easy way to find out. ๐
wind elm
Blow it up?
vague shard
@wind elm armor=10000 to be defined in geo lod as named property
dawn palm
1000 = infinity
vague shard
nope
BI settings for trees:
6 armor=1500
1 armor=3000
1 armor=5000
15 armor=10000
7 armor=15000```
bushes:
```20 armor=700
11 armor=800
1 armor=1500```I must be thininking of accuracy= then.
wind elm
Rly? Okay. Never seen/noticed it before.
vague shard
accuarcy = 1000 => type is not shown, use parent
dawn palm
the obvious point there kju is to set it to some large enough value to expect a difference when a car smacks into it.
wind elm
dammage or damage for ArmA
Usage: Geometry LOD. This setting defines what happens to object after it is destroyed.
Please note that armor value can be set via config.cpp.```
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Named_Properties#Named_Properties
"can", hmm.. should it?sorry my bad.
vague shard
can = when sth isnt supposed to have a class then you have to use named properties
in other words BI introduced this workaround
they say class for vegetation and some other things would degrade performance
wind elm
Would explain, why there is none for all trees/bushes
(i mean, its a 10min thing to add them all to classes)
dawn palm
the above would be obvious, it's 'faster' to react to the p3d which is, after all, being read anyway, than process a config 'somewhere'
wind elm
Yeah, instead of "searching" for the Class -> Values -> blaa.
dawn palm
and they weren't 'introduced' geolod properties were even present in the models for ofp demo
classed objects are over-rides of the default game mechanics
ornate wasp
@bux Sure, will be merged. However you'd have to enable CBA commands/functions via settings.
dawn palm
small update to the dll:p3d to account for minor changes at 1.67 dev release of the game.
smoky halo
@dawn palm what changed?
limber garden
He'll probably be along later to explain it more, but he told me sourceaddress=mirror now has different min and max phases.
dawn palm
tanoa_map_objects.1.03.pbo released with more objects. The extras goodies are somewhat redundant as bis have now released the same extras as pbo. but, there you have it,
narrow bough
thanks @dawn palm
thin rose
Don't know where this community would be without Mikero.
dawn palm
the parasites and thieves wouldn't agree with you ๐
shy salmon
Hey @dawn palm could you provide a little guidance for me? I'm trying to build a release build from the ACE3 git using these instructions https://ace3mod.com/wiki/development/setting-up-the-development-environment.html and I've run into a few snags
When I attempt to execute make.py with the specified commands, pboproject then opens and tells me that the source folder is not apart of the workspace (P:)
Sorry for bothering you, I was unsure of who else to inquire to so I figured I would ask you because your tools are part of the process
dawn palm
if you want to build a pbo, the folder of that pbo must be in the same 'virtual addressing space' as everything else. Eg, since all your other files are (presumably) on p:\ (items like p:\a3) then your pbo folder must be there too in the 'correct' location.
shy salmon
Okay. Thank you for the response. Unfortunately, now it's simply telling me "Cannot open source folder. Packing failed"
dawn palm
well it aint where you said it was.
p:\some\where
you presumably already have p:\x and p:\z (part of ace3 setup)
other than that i don't know very much about this mod.
shy salmon
I think I may have discovered my mistake. Hold on.
Ah yes, silly me. I was pointing it to the wrong direction
Hmm
Still did it wrong apparantly
I don't understand. Why is it failing to open the source folder? I'm executing the make.py command from the source folder
dawn palm
and I don't understand why your're asking me. I know almost nothing about ace3 or it's setup.
shy salmon
I figured since they're your tools that are a part of the process that you may have an idea. I apologize for bothering you, hopefully I can figure it out on my own.
dawn palm
i'd assume one of the ace devs is here and will reply as and when
shy salmon
Hopefully. Your tools are very useful though and I know you probably already hear it a lot, but, they're very much appreciated
dawn palm
thank you.
pearl beacon
I suggest you get on our Slack @shy salmon more people there to help you, I am on phone atm so can't do much.
shy salmon
@pearl beacon Okay, will do!
vague shard
has anyone looked deeper into the binarized wrp format?
i am trying to rebuild a terrain made for A1/A2 in with A3 tools,
yet i am getting different results using eliteness to compare them (namely no clutterMask and extFlags)
glossy inlet
I planned to but didn't get to yet.
orchid shadow
Whoop whoop, Swifty 2.1.5.0 is out. -> http://getswifty.net/download.html
vague shard
2.1.4.6 [Fixed]Rewrote several core functions. speed++ [Added]Reimplemented pbo delta patching [Added] New icons for window toolbar [Fixed] Issue with window menu icons with high DPI screens [Fixed] SPDs are dead!. .. and much more..
sick verge
If you ever wanted to develop your ArmA projects with eclipse (including features such as a live syntax check) I have somehting for you: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/202181-sqdev-sqf-developing-in-eclipse/
vague shard
@sick verge such efforts are always much appreciated ๐ looks pretty decent and well presented :)
will load in my game mode code as "torture test"
vague shard
Formatter: A mechanism that puts the code into a proper pre-defined format (indenting and newLine-management) to increase the readability of (your) code.
did you consider to do this with a 3rd party tool, or does eclipse have good functionality for that itsef?
Logger: A logger that will get notified when something went wrong so that potential errors/bugs can be isolated and solved
how does this relate to the rpt?
Debugger: A debugger that lets you execute your code step by step and that lets you see and manipulate the content of your variables during runtime. No more endless print-statements to find out where the problem in your code is!
this is quite ambitious - i believe someone else is trying to get this tackled too
also you may want to talk to @severe lava - maybe he is happy to share some of his code or contribute to some extent
ref: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/118498-armadev-eclipse-plugin/
sick verge
Actually I thought about writing the formatter myself... But I must admit that I have not yet looked into it too deep...
The logger is meant to be logging the Plugin problems and nothing ArmA related...
Yeah I know... That's why the debugger is pretty much the last point on my todo list
vague shard
ive used this one: https://sourceforge.net/projects/uncrustify/
mainly for configs, but to some extent it worked also for sqf
sick verge
Oh yeah I already have... He gave me access to the source code of ArmADev but I think it's almost more complicated to strip something out of it than actually writing it myself
Okay I'll look into it when I'm approaching this feature... Thanks :)
wide cedar
some armake progress: https://puu.sh/u1YGR/0bcdd659ea.jpg
things are starting to look right
rotund rampart
Nice!!!
fallen stone
๐
pliant lynx
armake progress with virtual arsenal image, I dont understand the context?
pliant lynx
ah I see, good job then! ๐
wind elm
and this is usefull for? (no offense, i rly got no clue)
wide cedar
being able to completely build mods without any bi tools (on linux, on continuous integration etc.)
wind elm
Ah, nice.
onyx lion
anyone feels helping out in a small coding project?
to optimize the LITE creation process (resizing textures) a small tool would be handy that makes sure only change files are "rebuilt"
comparison based on "create/updated" file stamp
glossy inlet
"LITE creation process" ?
Which language and windows/Linux?
vague shard
basically resizing texture (can be also more)
windows for now, yet to have for both would be neat (linux for automated build process uses)
the basic probably would be:
- read input and output path as parameter
- if file does not exists on input, return false
- if file does not exist on output, return true
- if file in input is newer than in output, return true
- otherwise return false
glossy inlet
C++
bool shouldCreate(std::string inFile, std::string outfile) {
HANDLE inputFileHandle = CreateFileA(inFile.c_str(), GENERIC_READ, FILE_SHARE_READ, NULL, OPEN_EXISTING, FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL, NULL);
if (!inputFileHandle) return false; //If I can't open the input File I also can't convert it.
HANDLE outputFileHandle = CreateFileA(outfile.c_str(), GENERIC_READ, FILE_SHARE_READ, NULL, OPEN_EXISTING, FILE_ATTRIBUTE_NORMAL, NULL);
if (!outputFileHandle) return true; //If output file doesn't exist I'll create it.
FILETIME LastWriteTimeInputFile;
FILETIME LastWriteTimeOutputFile;
if (!GetFileTime(inputFileHandle, NULL, NULL, &LastWriteTimeInputFile)) return true; //If we can't get time just convert it anyway
if (!GetFileTime(outputFileHandle, NULL, NULL, &LastWriteTimeOutputFile)) return true;
//If input file was lastEdited after output file
if (
_ULARGE_INTEGER{ LastWriteTimeInputFile.dwLowDateTime, LastWriteTimeInputFile.dwHighDateTime }.QuadPart
>
_ULARGE_INTEGER{ LastWriteTimeOutputFile.dwLowDateTime, LastWriteTimeOutputFile.dwHighDateTime }.QuadPart
) return true;
return false;
}
if you're on linux you could just use make
vague shard
@glossy inlet looks good ๐ do you mind building an exe for cmd line use to have a test with it please?
glossy inlet
uggghhhhh :/ I hate command line parsing with spaces and crap
wind elm
"life"
glossy inlet
https://ideone.com/p0Pnac Couldn't find a online compiler that supports windows and downloading the executable.
high path
So if I'm making an arma extension for 32 bit linux in C then it should have the signature
"extern void RVExtension(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function)"
correct?
karmic niche
Why don't you use the code from https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Extensions ?
From what I can see, you're missing __stdcall
high path
It's a linux library, __stdcall doesn't exist.
karmic niche
Are you sure? I mean, sure, it's not used in linux but Arma will probably call it with that convention anyway as it's a Windows program ported to linux.
There is __attribute__((stdcall)) in gcc I think
dawn palm
you don't need an exe for the above simple need. a bat file is more than sufficient:
if exist thingy then exit/b 1
etc etc
including bash btw
karmic niche
Actually, I never wrote extensions for Arma that were used on linux so I can't tell. Try your code as it is and if that fails, add the stdcall attribute to see if that fixes it
high path
gcc was unhappy with it.
karmic niche
Took a quick look at ACE3 github and they are using __stdcall but they define it to be empty on non-windows platforms:
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/extensions/common/shared.hpp#L92
So you're probably safe if you omit it.
However, I'd got with the cross-platform way if I were you ๐ (ifdef)
high path
Well, I'll just add the ifdef anyways. Also, are extensions loaded at mission start or at server start?
karmic niche
From my (small) experience, on first extension call.
So if you want to fail early in case of issues, make some kind of init routine that returns "OK" so you know that it has been loaded and it works
And you call that as soon as you can
high path
I'm just making it echo back what it gets as arguments, just so I can get the loading process ironed out.
dawn palm
#if(n)def _WIN32 is a universal define for micro$oft including 64bit compiles
karmic niche
just so I can get the loading process ironed out
Even after that stage it's good to have a safety check put in place.
Let's say it works on your computer and you give it to your community members but then BattlEye blocks the extension. You will be wondering why X doesn't work. Of course that doesn't apply if you're doing a server-only extension but I always prefer to stay on the safe side, check things and fail early while I still can.
dawn palm
+1
high path
is it possible to execute code when arma loads the extension as opposed to when it gets called?
karmic niche
Hmm... dllmain for windows. I don't remember what is executed on linux.
Make a C++ constructor ๐
high path
sigh all this just so I can just write to a file
karmic niche
If you want to open a file on start you can use a static variable in your function that will hold the file handle opened on first call of that function
high path
no, no I actually have an extension I'm trying to use, but I can't get arma to recognize it, so I'm trying to determine what is wrong with it.
I'm trying to get https://github.com/mistergoodson/OCAP working. By default it comes with a .dll version. Someone made a pascal version which nobody can get to compile, then that same person made a very simple C version that I can get to compile, but can't get arma to recognize.
karmic niche
Have you written a program that opens your dll/so and calls your extension manually and why did't you do that? ๐
high path
well I can see what my so has in it using readelf or nm
but I have nothing to compare it to
Also checking, I'm using the debug console to execute my callExtension on the server. This shouldn't cause any problems related to security protections or anything, right?
ha ha!
I forgot I was working on a 64 bit linux, but 32 bit arma
dawn palm
for those who aren't aware of this (because i'd forgotten too) dep3d +Fx will automatically remove P:\ from file references which are sometimes wrongly inserted by object builder.
scenic canopy
@dawn palm I've been getting some crashes with makepbo lately, most of the times it works just fine but sometimes it just crashes once or twice and then suddenly works fine without any changes to the source. makepbo is started by pboproject, both are latest subscriber version. any logs I can send you?
dawn palm
define 'crash' please. genuine crash to desktop is verboten
it sounds like a memory error of some kind.
scenic canopy
yeah, I'd guess so too. it's an actual crash where the Windows Crash Report is shown
@dawn palm http://pastebin.com/m09qj8Nm
karmic niche
<rant>
Context: For the last two years I've been working on a torrent installer/launcher (yes, because I like to pointlessly redo the same work that has already been done by others) that can be used to make your own custom looking launchers and this guy turned-up. We've been talking for a few hours when I was trying to help him with setting the launcher up, and then he drops this...
...aha... can't upload images to this channel ๐
veeeeeeryyyyyy looooong siiiiiigh
</rant>
scenic canopy
aww
sick verge
Just released a new version of my SQDev plugin: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/202181-sqdev-sqf-developing-in-eclipse/
dawn palm
Windows Crash Report
it's almost a certainty, that assuming nothing's changed in what's being packed/compiled that you have either dodgy memory, video card or hard drive, in that order of frequency.
my own experience is that memory faults turn out to be video cards (or drivers) anyway.
My tools are well known for their stability (which is not the same as saying they are bug free). It's almost, but not quite, impossible for them to cause a ctd.
scenic canopy
same error occurs both locally and on our CI server
I'd guess it's something fishy with that specific addon we're building since it only happens for that specific folder, not the others
dawn palm
if it's not too large i'd like to look at it. ctd's are never acceptable.
scenic canopy
That could probably be arranged, the addon folder is just some configs and sqfs. It might have dependencies on quite a lot of models, I'll need to check that and if it's reproducable with or without them. If they aren't required I could just email you the troublesome addon folder, it's just a megabyte or so.
dawn palm
yes pls. I can cripple file reference checks. my guess is i've done something dreadful with sqf
chilly breach
How come that the promising "intercept" project lays dead on git?
It feels like the holy grail of arma scripting, what's stopping you (the pros) pursuing it any further?
glossy inlet
"the pros" are currently 2 people. Me and Nou. Nou has a new job and no time for Intercept. And I am working on TFAR and a couple other projects. So.. free Time is stopping us
I'm planning to work more on it once TFAR is done. And my other projects pile get's a little smaller
chilly breach
it is hard to believe that there are only two arma modder capable and interested in working on the project.
glossy inlet
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
elfin oxide
I only read though it before I left to my vecation right now. But it got a bookmark so I will revisit it and if I find something to suggest or work on I will create a pull requuest if there is a public git :) I am working on a siries of extensioms atm, also a major rewrite of A3Log, but after that this is on my list.
If I got things correctly this is indeed a very interesting idea.
karmic niche
if there is a public git :)
Is Github not public enough? ;P
elfin oxide
could have been that the cuttent dev build is located somwhere else, as I often do.
But if the up to date files are on github thats fine ๐
glossy inlet
Currently biggest thingymabob on Intercept right now is reworking the Memory allocator. I'm already half way done with that. I think current code on Github is 1.66 compatible. So people could run it if they wanted to
chilly breach
latest git version crashes after trying the example files.
*the game crashes (obviously) although I had problems compiling the example so they might be older versions.
elfin oxide
Might be a dumb question to ask but I never had the feeling that an extension would need its own mem alloc. What are the reasons you would use it? For and against it?
glossy inlet
Because... Intercept is not just an extension. We need it so we can use the refcounted classes that the engine gives us without implementing our own cache and crap.
smoky halo
extdb uses memory alloc, because mysql c connector wants memory preallocated for results when you use prepared statements.
A single column in a result with medium text data type will require 16mb.
So it helps avoid some memory fragmentation issues depending on usage / query's / dB scheme.
fallen stone
16mb o.o
smoky halo
LongText is 4GB ๐
glad mesa
i was ... reading that. ๐
nocturne basin
my lil tool starts to look like something
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/180068993888026626/284140776743632917/unknown.png :3
smoky halo
lol i need some coffee + proof reading crap before i post ;P
dawn palm
due to the way the microsoft os allocates it's memory: you can only rely on 25% of total ram in the pc to be available for any given linear block. 16gig ram? 4gig or less is garanteed. anything more is randomly not available.
it is not available simply because another app was placed, or is placed, dead centre of two chunks.
nocturne basin
Was something to Show The linter is working und @wind elm
smoky halo
There a cmdline version of linter or built into editor?
nocturne basin
No cmd line available but you could build one easily
It is all inside a single DLL
https://github.com/X39/ArmA-UI-Editor/tree/MVVM/ArmASQFLinter/Parser/Generated
Feel free to Grab and test
Only known issue i could find in sich Quick search was That-_something) and Co Are not recogbized correctly
smoky halo
Kinda bugs me that
test = parseSimpleArray "[1,2]" select 1; (0.33 10000 iter)
Is faster than
test = call compile "2"; (0.45 10000 iter)
Just might be useful for someone doing extensions.
meager falcon
yep
and its even better with the new callExtension syntax which saves you all the param formatting
glossy inlet
I was just optimizing a function. And formatting all params into a string to send to the extension takes 0.02ms. Horrible! Desperatly awaiting callExtensionArgs
smoky halo
Really wish they didn't mess with the return format from an extension ๐ฆ
exotic ice
@smoky halo Hey I have a quick question re: your tool, is it OK if I Discord direct message?
elfin oxide
@Dedmen why are you waiting? Its already there ... Also on dev is the new return too
@smoky halo you mean did not mess with it again? Since they changed it to ["stringdata",returnCode,ErrorCode ] already
Order might be different, look at the callExtension page its all told there
smoky halo
I mean to support 2 callExtension methods to be back compatiable.
Means documenting 2 different return methods, especially if you take advantage of the returncode
elfin oxide
Uuuhm I think its just fine now. They wont change the system they just came up with
callExtension string - string
callExtensionArgs Array - Array
They could speed up the input transmission though ... Its takes for arges when much data is processed
Ages aka 0.01 ms or so but still its bugging me
smoky halo
Its not really returning an array though ;)
Its a number and string you return not as useful as array. Its just wrapped in an array.
Would have perferred just a string
elfin oxide
Yeah ok I see the point. Still if you use the codes it is better that splitting the string again at output.
And with parseSimpleArray an array return is impletmemted
Its a typical duc tape solution from BI again but still i appreciate it
meager falcon
they could have implemented a callback eventhandler.. that would have been nice
so that the dll can actually offload stuff and directly call back when its ready..
the whole async way in sqf really bugs me
nocturne basin
@meager falcon would create nasty problems
meager falcon
If it only triggers a eventhandler, with the return of the Extension (and the extensionname) as param?
Not sure what problems that could cause
elfin oxide
I this wont work too well ... callExtension performs the loadLibrary command c++ side and if you would async that you could get real problems with instanceing and sorting which return goes where. If you wanna do something async make a queue and do a smart sqf side. Its barley even 50 lines of sqf to have a real good async implementation. I will publish a framework for that soon to use it or learn from the approach, you might look into that then
smoky halo
@exotic ice sure
meager falcon
I already know the async way, its more about saving te performance of permanent requests.
The LoadLibrary on the c++ side is btw only once performed, when the callExtension is first performed, after that the dll is attached to the ArmA3 process
So my Idea was basically to have a certain c++ function to be called (just like RVExtensionBack or something..) that only triggers the ingame EH with given params. It would have the same restriction as we have now with a single call
So its more like an Interrupt approach, instead of busy waiting
This would actually make larger scale calculations possible which are performed by the dll only (given the fact we can multithread)
elfin oxide
I dont see how that should work, as you cant just say the dll ok call me again whwn you are ready ... Some point of arma must wait
You execute the funtion of the dll which is exportet, and that execution is sync
meager falcon
You actually can:
callExtension -> createThread from the DLL and the callExt is ended
Dll is done -> call the "Interface" of the game.exe -> trigger EH
the sync part is done, when the output is set (RVExtension function end)
You can however create new Threads within the RVExtension function which are still executed, when the call has already finished
KK made a tutorial for this
elfin oxide
I know about mutli treading and the async approach, but your idea would rewuire the dll to call an endpoint inside the game for trigger the EVH
meager falcon
Thats what I said
elfin oxide
I mean sure its possible, but I don't think would do that
meager falcon
Yeah it was more like a wish.. like I said
it would free up alot of Script engine capacity if you do alot of Extension work in an async way
elfin oxide
This would be a nice thing, but honestly you can so mutlithreaded async on your own. My extensions to be released soon all feautre a framework for it which keeps the processing time down to nearly nothing, so just input in output out
So as this already possible, BI wont work on jt, as they most likely break their game by doing so
Remeber the engine is old, and they barely even tough it anymore
nocturne basin
how it comes that non of you thought about the SQF stack yet?
armas "async" mechanism is not real async for a reason
not to mention all those race conditions when you would like to update a game objkect in the main thread
deadlocks incomming
meager falcon
what are you refering to by "SQF stack"
elfin oxide
All scripts you execute are acually staked
nocturne basin
though ... not actually sure if it does work with a stack
but it is the most common thing
you should not forget that arma is designed in the way we love & hate it for reason
and if they could not get away those things ... i highly doubt that it would be "just quickly" implemented
not to mention that the whole crap of script engine would most likely break when you operate async on it (+ the game in some aspects)
meager falcon
Well would the callBack triggering the EH not only be another item to add to the stack then?
nocturne basin
you add it async
you would need to regulary check the async EH stack for such things
and all that just because some ppl want async dlls?`
race conditions and deadlocks would be the result ... probably ...
because somehow for some reason somebody finds a way to "abuse" or at least manipulate that stuff enough
meager falcon
isnt one allowed to dream ๐
nocturne basin
no ๐
meager falcon
ok then back to setting up a local server, gameupdater/steam client broke >.<
orchid shadow
X39, why would you get deadlocks?, the EH would return at some point in the script stack.
DLL callback would be put on the callback stack and then each item would executed on the end of the frame or whenever.
Its not like it would instantly interupt whatever the engine is doing at the moment.
meager falcon
^ this
nocturne basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlock there is a nice graphic https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Deadlock_at_a_four-way-stop.gif/220px-Deadlock_at_a_four-way-stop.gif
it is not a must that a deadlock would be created
race condition is far more likely
speculation is everything we can do in the end due to lack of code
elfin oxide
That deadlock showcase was so beatutiful <3
glossy inlet
Best solution IMO when the callback is executed add a new onEachFrame handler that executes he Callback SQF function and then removes itself as eventhandler. Would only have to make the addEventHandler threadsafe so it doesn't crap out the engine when it tries to add that EH in exactly the moment the EH's are processed
fiery hemlock
If a deadlock is created it's because of user code... there's no reason you couldn't create a deadlock in SQF... just like there's no reason you couldn't implement this RVCallback properly without deadlocks. The extension generated event can simply be dispatched to the main thread and handled at a later time
nocturne basin
If a deadlock is created it's because of user code dat
nothing else to be said
it is pretty much what i wanted to say the whole time
orchid shadow
So basically not what you were saying but if you pretend that was what you were saying suddenly its all true and you don't look like a idiot.
Yea, no you were still wrong.
Callbacks woulden't have deadlocks because you easily engineer around it.
If the code on the other side eg the "modder" side deadlocks that a whole other problem and is a user issue and not really anything to do with the feasability of a callback trough the exstensions.
dawn palm
hte engine has a 1 mscec abort timer. deadlocks are killed.
no sqf process of which, even t handlers are part, and call extensions, since what else do you think you can code in? are subject to the 1msec rule.
this is buried so deep in the orginal ofp code that bis have been unable to break it.
meager falcon
be BI
try to fix the engine
cant fix it
making a new engine
However, atleast some of you understod my idea of having the ability to call back to the SQF engine
verbal oar
Hi all. I'm trying to make own extension and I have 1 problem: arma doesn't see my dll from @mod folder, but from root directory it works fine. Why?
limber garden
When you had it in the @mod folder did you launch with that mod?
verbal oar
yes, of course
smoky halo
[2:13 PM] Torndeco: @verbal oar Statically link your extension
[2:13 PM] Torndeco: If you dll is dynamically linked the other dlls. They need to be in arma3 root directory or system dll path.
verbal oar
Thanks, I'll try
orchid shadow
@dawn palm I was referring to C++ code in the exstension.
Anyway X39 is a idiot and should just shut up about thing he dosent know about
dawn palm
mikero subscriber tools website is down until tuesday 7th march
pliant lynx
what does that mean, only updates are unavailable (MikeroUpdate) but tools still work normally?
dawn palm
Tthey work as intended., no updates however are available till further notice.
wind elm
Anything happend? (like Goat eating Servermachine)
dawn palm
was relying on someone else to pay the server costs.
wind elm
gg
dawn palm
had done so for some years now, i forgot.
anyway, am looking for an automatic host that will recieve the paypal and issue the password right there, right then.
I think optix offered. maybe.
smoky halo
This is pretty cool: https://github.com/kayler-renslow/arma-dialog-creator
vague shard
did you build the app yourself to test? in the forums he said its still WIP but wants to have somehow out soon
fiery hemlock
@dawn palm did you fix your preprocessor in a later version? http://pastebin.com/raw/Rh3GqeRj
dawn palm
that's such an old version of the dll i'd say almost certainly. but i'llcheck your #defines when I have time, and get back to you.
fiery hemlock
@dawn palm if you wouldn't mind checking this one as well ```#define CAT_I(a,b) a ## b
#define CAT(a,b) CAT_I(a,b)
#define STR_I(x) #x
#define STR(x) STR_I(x)
#define HASH #
STR(CAT(HASH,X)) // "#X"```
dawn palm
k
dawn palm
@fiery hemlock
1st example:
bis: "1 space space 2"
me: "1 space 2"
2nd example
bis: "space space X"
me: error because i won't ignore # and won't accept it
fiery hemlock
@dawn palm so both BIS' and yours still fail in both cases? ๐
as for the last comment, do you mean you don't intend for it to work? if so then how do you produce "#X" from X ?
also on an unrelated note, does your preprocessor have a predefined symbol like __MIKERO__ or __DEPBO__ and does it handle nested control structures? as i understand, the BIS' one does not, at least not the A2 one, though i haven't checked in A3.
dawn palm
bis can't handle nested # ifndef, i can, and do
nested hash ifdef works for bis, ndef does not
hallow rapids
is the preprocessing part of binarization?
dawn palm
it's just a fancy word for handling #defines
fiery hemlock
a preprocessor takes text with some directives and outputs processed text
it does not build a binary representation of anything
so no binarizing
dawn palm
.... or doesn't compile certain sections of code.
hallow rapids
I get what a preprocessor does I'm just wondering why @dawn palm has to do it
dawn palm
it's part of the c languagge and part of bis config.cpp's
hallow rapids
ah so it's basically just done for checking / parsing the configs
fiery hemlock
heh i wonder too, why is everyone rolling their own, whats wrong with existing tools? they come with every C/C++ compiler ๐
dawn palm
huh?
I don't have MIKERO but ARMA is used to expliclity binarise to arma rather than ofp. ditto OFP is an explicit compile switch
above italics should have underlines.
if so then how do you produce "#X" from X ?
buggered if I know. bis don't accept it as presented. neither do I.
and even if it were accepted, it would not produce #X me: # space X and bis: # space space X
define CAT_I(a,b) a ## b
you _probably wanted:
define CAT_I(a,b) a##b
wide cedar
@fiery hemlock i would prefer using cpp or something similar in armake, but since includes work differently due to the whole prefix system it's not that easy
dawn palm
have i lost the conversation here? what have includes or even cpp have to do with it? what am i missing?
aah. do you mean a separated parser?
wide cedar
cpp = the gnu c preprocessor, not c++
dawn palm
there's a difference in macros between c and c++ ???
wide cedar
not that i'm aware off. cpp is the name of the gnu c preprocessor: https://linux.die.net/man/1/cpp
naming isn't their strong suit i think
fiery hemlock
i think there's some standard differences though don't quote me on it
@dawn palm i'm just thinking in terms of C/C++ preprocessors here. do you mean that the spaces in the expansion of a ## b are intentional? if so, shouldn't there be 2 spaces like in the BIS' PP output you showed?
dawn palm
probably
but it seems to me you haven't tested this stuff at all to get the outcome you wanted.
fiery hemlock
Heh i did test it but when the output was "1 ""2""" on a simple catenate+stringize i didn't feel like testing further would make any difference. Admittedly this was an older version of your tools but hey i'm here to decide whether the new versions are worth spending money on. And since there are no trials or refunds as far as i can tell, what else is one to do?
dawn palm
you ask here as you did do. it makes sense to me you asked.
fiery hemlock
all these homebrew preprocessors don't much impress me though. why shouldn't i just use say msvc and get far better results
wide cedar
update: it's shit, acre murders it
fiery hemlock
cl /EP config.cpp >> config.i
glossy inlet
To save Flummi from writing that. Most already available preprocessors would need to be modified to respect Prefixes in #include. And as it is on the semi todolist that armake will also be able to load header files from inside packed pbos one needs to be able to make a custom #include resolve function. Which you can't with closed source preprocessors.
fiery hemlock
are you talking about SQF preprocessing?
also you can just use /I whats the problem?
only thing a C/C++ PP can't do is __EXEC __EVAL but i don't really know why you would want to use those anyway
glossy inlet
let's say #include "z\ace\addons\common\script_macros.hpp You have a folder called ACE3\addons\common which contains script_macros.hpp and a $PBOPREFIX$ that contains z\ace\addons\common How would cl know that it has to read that PBOPREFIX to know what folder it is currently in.
fiery hemlock
Whats the benefit of doing that? ACE3 vs z/ace
glossy inlet
No need for a P drive and symlinking everything to replicate a artifical prefixed directory structure
fiery hemlock
But why do you want z/ace/... and not ace3/... ?
glossy inlet
because the ingame preprocessor uses the PBOPREFIX paths.
fiery hemlock
So change the pboprefix path?
glossy inlet
facepalm forget it...
fiery hemlock
No seriously whats the benefit of using a different pbo prefix?
glossy inlet
It's just CBA/ACE/TFAR standart way of doing it. It's better for organization thingys
fiery hemlock
Ok so your source code is organized as ace3/xyz and pbo contents as z/ace/xyz? Whats preventing you from using the same path for both?
so basically some twit decided to be fancy and used โง๏ฝฅ๏พ: *โง๏ฝฅ๏พ:PBOPREFIX:๏ฝฅ๏พโง*:๏ฝฅ๏พโง and now it's too late for y'all to change it?
glossy inlet
Some twit being BI....
fiery hemlock
they made cba/ace/tfar whatever the hell those are?
wide cedar
if you symlink ARMA/z to your p-drive, the /z/MOD/addons stuff allows you to use filepatching with all your project files on the p drive
also, the prefix in general allows you to "root" the paths of any arma config regardless of location, allowing you to use absolute includes like \PREFIX\path.cpp
and as long as the binarizer finds the file, it doesn't matter where it is
fiery hemlock
you can't link %arma%/mod to p:/mod ? or %arma%/mod/addons/x to p:/mod/x ?
wide cedar
you can, but the system was introduced by people working on more than one mod with the same system ๐
lazyness always prevails and 1 symlink > n symlinks
fiery hemlock
automation > manual labor
wide cedar
i agree
fiery hemlock
because you see.. laziness prevails
wide cedar
i don't even use filepatching, and the majority of modders probably don't either
also, since these projects are now open-source, ease of entry is more important than comfort for the core devs
that's why building your mod shouldn't be dependant on things outside of the project folder
fiery hemlock
you could just link P:/z to P: though couldn't you
wide cedar
honestly, i would prefer just pretending no one ever invented the p-drive
it's horrible and needs to die
fiery hemlock
i don't see what difference it makes
wide cedar
it's just ass backwards. compare building a mod to building a c or cpp project
all it should take is $ make, not "start by creating a new drive letter"
fiery hemlock
well sure but the whole discussion was about whether or not you can use a C/C++ preprocessor to preprocess arma configs or not.. and i don't see why not
sure if you've got some magic pbo prefixes you might have to make some symlinks
wide cedar
because the fact is the prefix system was invented and now mods use it, so preprocessors for mods need to support it. so if you have cba in one folder, and ace in the other. and your preprocessor is trying to find "/z/cba/addons/main/whatever", you'll need to implement some kind of prefix support, whether that works by just putting a "P:" in front (bad) or searching supplied folders (good)
since the path /z/cba/addons shouldn't HAVE to exist
that's my reason
i can't speak for others of course
fiery hemlock
/Ix/cba/.. #include <cba/somefile> that's what you get for using them pboprefixes i guess now all your clients hardcoded the path and you're fucked forever
wide cedar
but i didn't come up with pboprefixes, BI did. it's even hardcoded in the PBO file format
and ideally mods that can be built with official tools should also be buildable with mine
fiery hemlock
GCC is open source... grab libcpp and build a little pboprefix thing around it ;D
dawn palm
you keep saying pbo prefix when what you really mean is \hard vs relative\ #includes
the choices are to use '\current\drive' for includes (P:\ does not come into this) or use a series of include file paths to search in. The latter being somewhat impractical for the purpose.
there's nothig mysterious about a linux file system using \hard\addressing based on the \ root folder tree and gcc compiles would understand that quite readily.
in the microSoft world that translates to (current drive)\
if ace / cba choose to trick the folder system by taking advantage of the bi engine's pbo prefix, that's up to them.
fiery hemlock
Cool. Now add a switch to your tools to use gcc cpp and i'll buy it in a heartbeat
fiery hemlock
Hows that?
pearl beacon
Untelo, you seem to know everything, why don't you just make a pbo packer with gcc cpp then?
dawn palm
you don't want 'klunky' software like mine, so use the official ones.
you don't want exev eval? write your own
you don't want sqf processi and lint checking, write your own or use steam tools. but above all, just go away.
fiery hemlock
Damn aren't we hostile...
@pearl beacon there's no need to write a packer. One could easily enough preprocess files before feeding them to an existing one
dawn palm
koffien explained it quite well, and he does a damn good job in his code catering for ace's use of symlinks
before feeding them to an existing one
so go ahead and do so.
smoky halo
http://odol-converter.azurewebsites.net/ now supports v73 ODOL
sry for interupting ^^
hallow rapids
#403
dawn palm
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
fiery hemlock
As for exec/eval i've never really used those so i don't know how useful or not useful they are, but personally i have far more experience with C/C++ macros which is why i would like to be able to use those. Different people, different preferences
dawn palm
if you bothered to read my documetation accompanying my tools, you'd understand how to use them and why.
but since you know so much about gcc and friends, use a precompiler of your choice and stop the nonsense.
hallow rapids
__EVAL seems useful if you need some data from the engine ๐
dawn palm
dynamic data, which can only be known (obviously) at start of game time.
they serve no purpose at all in a config.cpp that has been binarised, but in a descroptioon.ext they are essential.
fiery hemlock
Sqf processing / lint checking i've no experience with though i think i've seen some of that obfuscated sqf, and i don't mean to offend here, but it didn't seem that useful to me
dawn palm
_exec(var=var+1);
_eval (class watsit##var)
very useful for the six million class hitglass accomanying a building
i've used poetic licence for above btw
hallow rapids
hmm I guess that makes more sense than the example on the BIKI
__EXEC(cat = 5 + 1; lev = 0)
...
_cat = parsingNamespace getVariable "cat"; //6
biki examples are mission.sqm centric
where the descripton.ext (unlike config.bin) is compiled each time every time at game time
thus making it invaluable to pick up items like nPlayers, nameOFserver and etc
these things are 'normally' fed into things like rscDisplays
exec and eval can't exist in a config.BIN they are processed out. which is why, when you extract bis pbo's, you'll never see one.
ace make clever use of exec/eval in one single config.CPP which is not binarised.
dawn palm
yep or did.
pearl beacon
possibly
dawn palm
your packer specifcally excludes using my tools for one, single, config.cpp
pearl beacon
that was not for that
that was for fonts and something else
because your tools didn't copy the files ๐
dawn palm
burp
dawn palm
will fix, as you would expect me to, any time i'm told about a problem.
pearl beacon
uh, I did tell you about it when I was setting up the toolchain for ACRE
you said you won't ๐
dawn palm
ouch ๐
hallow rapids
lol ๐
dawn palm
anyway (moving right along) exec and eval mean sqx processing. which, of course, isn't known by a standard c(++) compiler.
exac and eval are implict in model.cfg
angle = rad+60;
pearl beacon
oh just to clarify, it only happens due to binarizing, for some reason your tools do it differently
and we get around it by just having those things in separate pbo which doesn't get binned
dawn palm
moment jonpas, looking something up in my code.
pearl beacon
ooh yeah I remember now, if a p3d is contained in the component, then it will throw away the unknown files and never copy them
hallow rapids
@dawn palm are these things related to exec/eval? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Particle_Effects:_Config_Parameters
I've seen those variables all over the configs I think
dawn palm
no they aren't sqx statements (which is what exec/eval is)
these 'variables' are;
hard wired in the engine. in which case they will always be initialised in bin\config.bin OR
looked at by sqf event handlers.
sqf modules, sqf anything.
but no, they aren't anything to do with exec eval
hallow rapids
alright, so similarly the safeZone things aren't related either. I guess that kinda makes sense
dawn palm
again correct. safezone is hardwired
hard wired doesn;t mean it's a constant. it means, the engine looks for that 'name'
hallow rapids
yeah
dawn palm
where they can, bis try not to use hard wired names, instead, relying on the ever expanidng sqf modules.
one of the best examples because it's easy to understand how it gets at a config.BIN is gaia's very brilliant jukebox sound system for playing music tracks.
hallow rapids
got a link? A quick search doesn't really show anything relevant
dawn palm
need a few minutes for jonpas
hallow rapids
sure ๐
dawn palm
@pearl beacon
productversion
one of your configs is checking the version number (array element 3) to see how to 'compile' the resulting config.
all exec evals must produce constants. and this one is known only at game time.
pearl beacon
ACE or ACRE?
dawn palm
not sure sorry.
dawn palm
it's obviously not right, but for me ace and acre mean same thing. for mikero it means 'pay attention'
ditto cba
pearl beacon
well I don't see anything checking what you are saying
dawn palm
I can only remember finding productversion in an exec eval and rejecting it as not PRE compilable. I then checked the pipeline packer of ace or acre, and spotted THAT config.cpp as being passed thru, unmolested.
pearl beacon
I am not sure what you are looking at then ๐ค
dawn palm
k. i'll move on to this sound file business.....
pearl beacon
any file
I looked up what the problem was
say you have a component with a p3d
and some eg. .aba files (ACRE antenna files)
your tools will pick that up and binarize the p3d, ignoring any files with unkown extension (such as .aba)
however if you remove the p3d (or move those files to another pbo), which then won't trigger the p3d binarization, it will pack it just fine
buoyant compass
@dawn palm do you know what could cause this error? https://gyazo.com/0cc739c521e20f92ee38df3c7382d739
used the tools last week and everything was fine up until now after a reboot.
it won't let me create or use keys at all
dawn palm
i have never,. ever seen that msg
it's pure bis DsSignFIle
all pboProject does is use that exe as a convenience to the user having to do it themselves (and get it wrong)
my very best guess is you have a corrupted bikey
buoyant compass
Well I thought the same, so I created one on my home desktop and put it on the other desktop I am remoting to and still the same issue. It doesn't even like to create new keys. Going to just try reinstalling a3 tools.
dawn palm
good move, imho
if it doesn't like creating keys that's pure dsCreateKey.exe. nothing less.
your tools will pick that up and binarize the p3d, ignoring any files with unkown extension (such as .aba)
ok!
i'm in a rock and hard place with that one due to people having all sorts of genuine crap in their folders.
I'll have to think on how to implement this, while maintaining keep it simple, stupid.
pearl beacon
I'd be ok with a param to makepbo with allowed extensions or even just disable ignoring
dawn palm
yep. understood jonpas. and thank you as always for your support.
anyone needing updates from my subscriber tools needs a new way of doing so. My current web provider has gone awol, and i have had to move to a different one. I thought it was a bill payment and was wrong. They're awol and hacked. Contact me on skype, discord or an email
sorry for the unavoidable pain. it hurts here too.
buoyant compass
If this helps at all with my problem, 2017-03-07 05:45:53,248 [INFO]: ===================================================================== 2017-03-07 05:45:53,250 [INFO]: == P:\DSSignFile\DSUtils.exe == 2017-03-07 05:45:53,258 [INFO]: Version: 0.5.* 2017-03-07 05:45:53,259 [INFO]: ===================================================================== 2017-03-07 05:45:53,259 [INFO]: System/Current dir: P:\DSSignFile 2017-03-07 05:45:53,260 [INFO]: System/Command line: "P:\DSSignFile\DSUtils.exe" 2017-03-07 05:45:53,261 [INFO]: System/OS Version: Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0 2017-03-07 05:45:53,262 [INFO]: System/OS 64bit: True 2017-03-07 05:45:53,263 [INFO]: System/Process 64bit: False 2017-03-07 05:45:53,268 [INFO]: System/Personal dir: C:\Users\Admin\Documents 2017-03-07 05:45:53,270 [INFO]: System/Local App Data dir: C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local 2017-03-07 05:45:53,271 [INFO]: DSUtils Started 2017-03-07 05:45:56,709 [INFO]: Create new authory: testname; Destination dir: D:\A3PDrive\DSSignFile 2017-03-07 05:45:56,998 [ERROR]: Missing file: D:\A3PDrive\DSSignFile\testname.biprivatekey 2017-03-07 05:45:57,000 [ERROR]: Missing file: D:\A3PDrive\DSSignFile\testname.bikey 2017-03-07 05:46:00,018 [INFO]: DSUtils Exited
Thats what I get after trying to create a key.... idk why it is saying missing file, and I even reinstalled the whole p drive and anything that should be associated with it.
DSUtils was unable to create the authority.
dawn palm
could be a mismatch running AsAdmin versus mere mortal, and no tools of any kind should ever be on your data drive:
that's asking for trouble for two reasons. bis consider the tools folder to be theirs and will delete the entire contents if they feel like it. secondly, bis binarise, in a desperate search for land classes when building maps will wander all over your drive and get very upset with garbage.
the latter is one of the most pernicous crash to desktops you can achieve. because you have no hope in hell of discovering what binarise is upset about.
buoyant compass
wouldn't it do the same on the c drive then to? The d drive on this system only has an arma server and a3tools folder for the p drive.
only reason I have a pdrive on the server is because my internet would take ages to upload back and forth.
dawn palm
the p drive for an admin versus mere mortal, are different, the same. or non-existent
and based on above, you don't seem to have a reason to have a 'p' drive
an armatools folder some\where, but P seems to be redundant
Am fairly sure Tom, (Julien) from bis, now prevents tools being placed on p:\
wouldn't it do the same on the c drive then to
no. bis binarise only wanders over current drive, which is normally p:
in a dos console i browsed to where i have dscreatkey
i typed the magic words
dscreateKey fred
and got a fred.bikey
perhaps you should first check you can do that simple thing in p:\dsSignfile folder
buoyant compass
CPAquireContext failed
buoyant compass
my local pc workes perfectly fine, its the remote server that is having a problem and I am using RDP.
dawn palm
ok
i'm not familiar with rdp. i'll google it so we're on same page
ah yeh, ok, then you should be able to simply navigate to the exe and somehow type dsSignfile fred
or a bat to do same.
buoyant compass
yeah I just get "CPAquireContext failed" when doing it from cmd
Thanks for the help anyways, might just submit a feedback tracker report and see what comes of it and wait until I can find the actually problem/solution.
vague shard
p:\z was used 1) was its the last character (folder ordering) and 2) most likely unique (so you can easily type the path/select the folder with keyboard)
dawn palm
Thanks for the help anyways
well at least you've narrowed it down to the specific cause of the pain and suffering.
smoky halo
@buoyant compass after a quick google search: it seems you do not have access to all files and subfolders in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Crypto\RSA\MachineKeys on your server
solution seems to be to delete those files
viscid verge
A question on object builder: I have an import for FBX, but a member of Unsung doesn't see it. Is this possibly an outdated version or some setting somewhere?
narrow bough
I had that, make sure he has FBX.dll in the object builder directory and its not blocked by windows
I put it down to a glitch in the matrix
smoky halo
i recall something like steam needs to be running aswell
buoyant compass
@dawn palm it ended up being a permission issue with the account; for some reason the other person on the box messed with some stuff after a reboot.
narrow bough
@viscid verge also get them to make sure the DLL Folder path is defined within OB's options - \SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\ObjectBuilder
viscid verge
ok, thx, fwd
@narrow bough that seems to fixed it, though the fbx model seems to be corrupted. neverending story it suddenly becomes. Thanks for your help!
narrow bough
hehe np
buoyant compass
@smoky halo Thanks, I was incorrect about the permission issue, seems to be the CryptAcquireContext created an keystore during the crash, the store somehow got corrupted, now the application tries to open the broken store and the app failes, because it doesn't catch the errors correctly.
smoky halo
Fixed: The shortcuts of FSM Editor were not usable on some computers
That bug has been driving me nuts, had to keep an old version of FSM editor. Thanks
glossy inlet
https://gist.github.com/dedmen/9d12594bda50fa4bc333659364af5092 serialized Callstack at breakpoint. It's really looking like something now
meager falcon
really, like can I use the Del button finnally ? xD
vague shard
@glossy inlet looking good! made in relation to what?
glossy inlet
Made from my script debugger
vague shard
cool ๐ you mentioned that project a while ago. do you want to feed it into a 3rd party tool?
(the callstack)
glossy inlet
X39's new Script tool thingy will integrate it. In the end it should look similear to the Visual Studio debugger.
hallow rapids
nice ๐
I guess it's a C# project?
and will it end up as an open source project and/or will the linter be shipped as a separate binary?
nocturne basin
linter is just inside its own DLL
using it still requires accessing it
maybe will put it in separate tool later
hallow rapids
cool ๐
nocturne basin
next things on the list for that tool: properties dialog ๐
hallow rapids
was really thinking about doing my own linter but if this plays well with mono then I probably won't ๐
nocturne basin
mono was up to 4.5 right now?
hallow rapids
no clue, probably
nocturne basin
should work then
nocturne basin
the current linter still needs to be type processing though ... but that can come later on the road
basic syntax linting is enough for now (ohh ... and it still needs to implement a preprocessor ... but that is some other topic ๐ )
fallen stone
Aslong as it beats the TypeSQF linter atm..
I wrote one line in an SQF file and it complained I had no semi colon ๐ฆ
dim phoenix
semi colons are overrated. You can replace them all* with commas and it still works the same.
jade zinc
Looks way cleaner is you use semi colons for specific delimiters tho, and commas another
native kiln
@dim phoenix I like @ more
dim phoenix
Are we still talking SQF?
nocturne basin
[] call foo @``` yep commyโญ
elfin oxide
^
dawn palm
@ is a reserved symbol in 02script. it means the nth value of an array similar to the select keyword
ar@3 // the 4th element
02script is sqf on steroids because it has it's own file io and display controls
hallow rapids
they really make an effort to avoid industry "standards" ๐
why not just use python or whatever
karmic niche
You typed "please do" wrong ๐
pearl beacon
what do you have against python
glossy inlet
It's dangerous ๐
pliant lynx
especially reticulated pythons.
meager falcon
why should lua be industry standard?
Thought it was C/C++ for any larger scaled projects (like games) (as well as C#)
Java for platform independency
HTML/PHP combined with MySQL for webprogramming
has anything moved past me?
glossy inlet
They were talking about scripting languages not General Programming languages
meager falcon
ahh ok my bad
ornate wasp
Mayor release to SQF Language for Visual Studio Code. More info: https://github.com/Armitxes/VSCode_SQF/releases
Big thanks goes to @rotund rampart apart from regular BI Products, CBA and ACE is now featured.
Marketplace: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=Armitxes.sqf
rotund rampart
๐
nocturne basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Q79bpeA10 and slowly integrating the debugger (credit to dedmen) further and further
if anybody is interested in testing, feel free to ask how to build the sources yourself ๐ or ask me for some in-dev release
dawn palm
can i have the music track with the code please?
nocturne basin
@dawn palm Hooky with Sloane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1qxGGkJ70U
dawn palm
๐
woeful cliff
@nocturne basin Copy cat
nocturne basin
it is callen competition @woeful cliff
not to mention that i started a week after my last contact try (roughly a month ago) on this properly as IDE for ArmA
woeful cliff
@nocturne basin You couldn't at least made the name original?
nocturne basin
why should i?
my ui editor was named ArmA-UI-Editor
the studio is named ArmA.Studio
could also call it ArmA.IDE ... but that is a horrible namespace name in c#
elfin oxide
let the better arma studio maker win ... honestly i would like to use something like that. I was disappoinent (no offend) @woeful cliff that there was no news coming though about your stuff. i looked into the videos on your channel often, as i was hoping to see a new version ๐ฆ
Soooo @nocturne basin if you do something please stick to it to the end
woeful cliff
Well, at least it removes the pressure from my shoulder, not having to focus on a public release anymore
nocturne basin
not to note that ...
woeful cliff
What? Rephrase
nocturne basin
@elfin oxide you already can get a WIP build but it is currently still lacking some important features
alpha release will be as soon as the base features are inside
a week or two maybe
youre IDE was in fact: dead
nobody heared anything from you
woeful cliff
Is Valve talking about Half Life 3?
elfin oxide
Allrighty @nocturne basin will have a look until a apha release
i guess battleye disabled right ๐ ?
nocturne basin
better you do ๐
still will contact him if it somehow is possible to tell battleeye to just kick instead of ban when somebody forgot to disable
woeful cliff
Someone once said "When you tell people your goals you donโt achieve them"
elfin oxide
if you play around with memory directly from arma BE will ban you for mem hacking for sure
if you have got a dll that handles the exchanges and memory stuff maybe he can whitelist that or at least be will prevent it from beeing executed, as it is not whitelisted
im not too far into that, because Bastian refuses to whitelist any of my extensions, even though he know they do not contain anything harmful. So i dont know what is possible
woeful cliff
If you're debugging the game, you shouldn't be in a public server anyway. And if you need to debug a private multiplayer session, disable BattlEye. Whitelisting it is not really important
karmic niche
Would it be possible to somehow detect BE being run (process name?) and refuse to attach to arma in that case?
As a safety check
elfin oxide
the studio can detect arma3battleye.exe for sure in the process list
that would be a nice solution to prevent idiots from loosing their arma accounts
nocturne basin
lazy idiots like me ๐
woeful cliff
Well, if they were smart enough to install an IDE for scripting, you'd think they'd be smart enough to not get banned
karmic niche
People make mistakes. Always. No exceptions.
elfin oxide
I would not agree with that. I often do alot of dumb things when i did not get too much sleep or think scripting while beeing drunk makes creative
karmic niche
@elfin oxide could you give some details about those extensions that bastian refises to whitelist?
I'm asking because I'm mainly interested in knowing how do they relate to Intercept
elfin oxide
A3Log
various ones for my server, including macas radio dll etc
all not harming, included with their source
woeful cliff
Time to format C:
elfin oxide
however something like killzonekids make_file dll is whitelisted
even worse some dlls that allowed injections are allowed right now
karmic niche
Soooo... it's more of a lottery, actually?
elfin oxide
Yes
ACE guys get their stuff whitelisted in minutes
if Basitan likes people he will take the time to have a look or even not that and whitelist it
if he does not know him / her and or does not want to read more than 10 describing words about it, forget about a whitelisting
karmic niche
Time to recruit myself to BattlEye then ๐
woeful cliff
At least BattlEye isn't as bad as EasyAntiCheat
EAC will ban for the ability to cheat, not just cheating itself
elfin oxide
Oh it is not? well ok its capable of copying and stealing company data from drives it was not alllowed to go into yes ...
and the world of bypassing it is so large, it got at least two dedicated forums build around it
BE was fine for a long time, and is better then nothing and better than some other anticheats, but by far not one of the good ones
woeful cliff
@elfin oxide At least it won't ban you for just having tools that can be used for cheating
unlike EAC
elfin oxide
sorry but that is not correct. BE bans you if you have got cheatengine process open, or a process that is called cheatengine. yes BE searches the process table string based for keywords
woeful cliff
No. I've confirmed that with them. They don't ban for running tools
elfin oxide
also there have been alot false posivtes around installed but not used programms as well
karmic niche
In all honesty, why would you have a process named CheatEngine running while you're connected to a BE-protected server?
woeful cliff
@karmic niche I use CE a lot for debugging. With several monitors I can't gurantee that I remember to close it every single time, which means it may still be running in the background
I specifically asked the support team whether they ban for having Cheat Engine running in the background, but not attached to the game.
No, we don't issue bans for that.
Your BattlEye Support Team```MulleDK19: Well, if they were smart enough to install an IDE for scripting, you'd think they'd be smart enough to not get banned
๐
elfin oxide
i get your points, but still I can say BE could be much better at what it is doing right now. Also i think this is not the place to discuss further ...
Your BattlEye Support Team -> best one man team ever
karmic niche
It's ok, I understand. I was just teasing you with your quote ๐
woeful cliff
EAC won't even respond to support requests of any nature
I always restart my system before playing an EAC game. Just in-game any of my tools are running. And I've got a few http://link.to.my.server.treesoft.dk/2017-03-15_00-30-17.png
karmic niche
Ah, that good old Ida 6.8 ๐
woeful cliff
IDA 6.9*
karmic niche
Chapeau bas!
woeful cliff
Best buy ever
So glad I'm a billionaire
Can't wait for https://solidarity.re/ to get off their asses
actually, get on their asses
karmic niche
Meh, they said they were starting a closed beta on January IIRC. And... nothing
woeful cliff
not closed
private
Oh man, it's so good to have some f'ing disk space again http://link.to.my.server.treesoft.dk/2017-03-15_00-39-04.png
karmic niche
But they "unveiled" the software at RECON 2016. At that pace, I'm not even sure they will release anything by the time RECON 2017 starts ๐
woeful cliff
Wouldn't it just be awesome when it does come out, and it's revealed it's not free?
woeful cliff
Not everyone likes my choice of coding font http://i.imgur.com/RYawOdH.png
But having used Consolas for years, I've found it a nice change. It's a lot less depressing to code in
glossy inlet
I will disable the whole Debugger backend when BE is loaded. But. BE might still let the Debugger dll Load... Have to test that. And if BE later sees that a dll considered a hack is loaded. It will ban. Even if that dll is not doing anything.
hallow rapids
@woeful cliff that font isn't too bad to be honest ๐
couldn't hurt if it would be monospaced though ^^
glossy inlet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-2WQzoG48 although it's very much WIP it is already very usable
hallow rapids
very nice ๐
nocturne basin
still very WIP @hallow rapids
but not much is needed before some alpha release
hallow rapids
unfortunately I have plenty of time since I'm on Linux ๐
karmic niche
Nice work, guys!
woeful cliff
I believe in options http://i.imgur.com/OzfRUhF.png
hallow rapids
whoever made that dialog, you're trying to show too much information at the same time
IMO, just a little feedback ^^
smoky halo
If anyone manages to get linux extension to work on latest arma3server linux.
Please give me a shout. Updated an extension with both exports, no luck
elfin oxide
{
void RVExtension(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function);
int RVExtensionArgs(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function, const char **args, int argCnt);
};
void RVExtension(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function) {
strncpy(output, "Please use the Array Input Variant", outputSize--);
}
int RVExtensionArgs(char *output, int outputSize, const char *function, const char **args, int argCnt) {
return 1337;
}```in case someone needs it
smoky halo
Workaround for linux extensions in server_linux
dawn palm
arma3p has been updated to account for released tanoa content. Credit: Scott UK
both free and subscriber have the latest version.
buoyant compass
Thanks Scott โค
dawn palm
It needed someone who cared to call this mod something original like 'tanoa'. Instead you folks can wonder what an 'expansion' mod is. They've probably broken the Keys and Mission folders that should also be in there, or forgotten how to use them.
for map makers you still need tanoa_map_objects.pbo
orchid shadow
Can you like stop updating the obsfucation, its just starting to get annoying now.
Its so fucking dumb anyway.
dawn palm
the dep3d component of the dll has been updated to work considerably faster in checking for errors. Especially for map making. dep3d +Fx will now fix points flag errors in binarised p3ds.
orchid shadow
Truely amazing.
How much cash did they shove in your mouth before you wrote the obsfucation?
smoky halo
@dawn palm what kind of point flag errors?
dawn palm
the old arma1 'obsolete flags' Tim.
from the ushort points table.
Kju;s put a lot of work into re-creating ifa for arma3, and those 'flags' were causing issues when trying to upgrade.
smoky halo
i c
pearl beacon
@dawn palm "failed to create P:\expansions.txt"
dawn palm
urrrrrrrgh
pearl beacon
happened at the very end, I assume before extracting Tanoa stuff
dawn palm
murphy bit me
wind elm
noob =}
wind elm
my bad.
dawn palm
fixed at version 1.38
available in dev heaven free tools OR
standard mikeroupdater
i can't get thru to the Maverick server at moment.
wind elm
Avira is crying to me about Virus again (arma3p.138 blablabla)
dawn palm
ahhhh, when u install. that's different
dawn palm
some virus checkers are a little too enthusiastic. i have same on Kapersky
split stratus
@dawn palm I thought i found a bug, then i was like, let me check if mikero updated, you did, so i downloaded it, and the bug went away ๐ โค
wind elm
(i wonder, is anyone still using Norton AV crap?)
pearl beacon
thanks @dawn palm
dawn palm
well, embarrisnhgly, the thanks are from me for finding an 'undocmented feature'
i also stopped extracting 97 squillion gigabytes of useless dubbing.pbo's
wind elm
thx, i was just about to mention that, if this is rly needed.
same for the Video pbo
(where the f is that damn thing)
"missions_f_epa_video" in A3\addons
dawn palm
illl add it some other time. the majors (dubbing* and missions*) are out of the way.
wind elm
Or at least optional?
dawn palm
agreed. you get to choose at start of a3p
wind elm
like a Q in the end:
"You wanna waste some more additional Space with dubbing and Missions? Y / N"
dawn palm
the Q has already been asked at top of file.
wind elm
rly? Okay, i must have ignored that.
hallow rapids
enter enter enter GO!
vague shard
@dawn palm what about skipping layers from Altis and Tanoa at least?
narrow bough
+stratis
dawn palm
what about skipping
nope, suddenly there's no end to it with a shopping list a mile long of 'unnecessary' pbos. What's already done is more than reasonable to improve the speed to something acceptable.
yours is a good idea kju, but there's no end to it.
narrow bough
very true, if people dont want/need extra stuff on their hdd I guess they can just remove them manually
vague shard
well these add ten of thousands of useless files
why skip dubbing and not layers - makes no sense
dawn palm
so edit the bat file to do so.
fallen stone
@wind elm <insert link in between these for no preview>
wind elm
Thx @fallen stone
@hallow rapids Nah, i personaly just don't like the previews, they toooo big.
hallow rapids
just in case, meant url shorteners not memes ^^
smoky halo
@icy urchin Sorry but already have a bf :P
fallen stone
eh
hallow rapids
intriguing ๐ค
woeful cliff
This is pretty useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofoI7p7alJs
vague shard
๐
hallow rapids
pretty cool ๐
elfin oxide
Well if it gets ever released yes ...
meager falcon
before sqf gets dropped
orchid shadow
@woeful cliff looking good man
hallow rapids
@smoky halo it seems that the publisher doesn't detect the bitness of .NET dlls correctly
we have the _x64 suffix but the workshop is still reporting it as 64-bit incompatible
smoky halo
@hallow rapids could you please send me the file?
hallow rapids
smoky halo
@hallow rapids I'll release an updated Publisher in a minute, the portion of code that sets the flags in entirely missing
pearl beacon
It was in one of the dev branch publisher releases btw
hallow rapids
sweet, I'll pass it on to our steam dude ๐
nocturne basin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/282160388802609153/293489853637722112/unknown.png
release expected next week
changes might come, but they are mostly logistic by now
also some cosmetic changes are yet to be implemented ๐
((variables view currently looks & feels horrible))
wind elm
just like you โค
(tbh, they look okay)
Maybe another Color, instead of black (i am used to blue)
pliant lynx
@wide cedar I tried armake the other day to convert png to paa, used this cmd line: ```
armake_w64 img2paa -t DXT1 filename.png filename.paa
when I load the DXT1 converted paa file with texview2 it is very dark, looks nothing like original png. is that texview2 issue or am I missing something?That's a known issue: https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/issues/32
That seems to be an issue with the stb_dxt encoder. I was thinking about maybe just applying a little colour correction, since i don't want to write another dxt encoder myself
pliant lynx
ah darn, ok thanks for the info.
woeful cliff
No need to keep that Wiki bookmark handy http://link.to.my.computer.treesoft.dk/temp/ShareX/2017-03-21_05-14-15.mp4
vague shard
neat
woeful cliff
Alright, I knew I hadn't committed for a while, but dayum, 322 changes to commit
vague shard
you like to walk on the edge eh?
native kiln
Living a dangerous life
woeful cliff
As much as I love the new C# 7 features, I fucking hate they didn't add Edit & Continue support for them
And it's not just the statements that contain the features you can't edit, no it's the entire method they're used in
pearl beacon
XAML Edit and Continue is handy though
woeful cliff
@pearl beacon Oh, yea
pearl beacon
but that's a VS17 feature ๐
woeful cliff
Although, it's kinda half finished
Like sometimes you have to remove an element then readd it, before it'll accept the change
pearl beacon
haven't used it much
heh
I have to make a basic text editor for a uni project, that's the only reason I know anything about it
woeful cliff
nocturne basin
hallow rapids
nice, congrats ๐
vague shard
@woeful cliff would you mind adding a little context please (meaningful title or short description). ty
woeful cliff
@vague shard uh?
vague shard
to your demo videos
dawn palm
well it appears that bis have moved goalposts again:
- it looks like 3rd party ebos can no longer be signed.
- it looks like bis either forgot, or deliberately broke, 'no prefix' pbos
can anyone else confirm either of these?
pliant lynx
what is 3rd party ebo? (I know what ebo is but are you referring to pboroject obsfuscation as 'ebo'?)
dawn palm
nope. people use 3rd party encyrption tools to create genuine ebos
pliant lynx
cunter ๐
dawn palm
I deliberately crippled pboProject's ability to do same (greyed out) because i didn't trust bis enough.
pliant lynx
wait what, you removed obfuscation?
dawn palm
read carefully. if you weren't aware of the greyed out check box, you're missing nothing.
pliant lynx
crippled, greyed out... ok, read carefully. still coming to same conclusion "you removed obfuscation". but I guess I'm wrong then heh.
dawn palm
i guess you are.
pliant lynx
yep no problem, I dont do stolen content Life mods so I have nothing to obfuscate ๐
dawn palm
well if you're able to confurm either of above, that would be helpful.
orchid shadow
Nice if they fucked ebos.
native kiln
@pliant lynx mikero disabled the ability to create encrypted pbos with pboProject
Obfuscated pbos can still be created
pliant lynx
huh?
pliant lynx
ok(?)
native kiln
You asked that
pliant lynx
whats the difference between encryption and obfuscation then?
native kiln
It's something completely different
pliant lynx
I only seen myself and have heard people talk about obfuscation, never even heard of Mikero Tools Encryption before now.
pliant lynx
no, can you please explain it to me? SIGH of course I know <insert rolling eyes smiley here>
native kiln
Your text sounded pretty serious
And given the average knowledge here I didn't doubt it
native kiln
Yes
It really sounded like you didn't know what encryption was lol
Basically ebos are pbos but encrypted with a key
That is hardcoded into the game
Some months ago someone dumped the key from the engine and thus was able to create ebos
pliant lynx
my confusion comes from mikero tools obfuscation vs mikero tools encryption.
yes youtube whisky drinker UnCunter guy
native kiln
Why the confusion?
pliant lynx
well ok correction again, UnCunter was to unpack ebo's but I heard he (or someone?) released the cunter to create ebo's.
why? like I said before your words I never even heard of mikero tools encryption, only obfuscation tick box in the pboproject GUI.
native kiln
It's been a thing for some time now ^^
Bohemia is weird though, they don't give the tools to their community to create encrypted content
Yet they make it themselves
*seld
God damn it
Smartphone keyboard
pliant lynx
so if encryption == ebo, then obfuscation == ?
dawn palm
just download the latest set of subscriber tools snake.
pliant lynx
oh ok so is obfuscation really the OFP era garbling the pbo header so normal pbo tools cant open it?