(Oh ACE2...)
#arma3_scenario
torn tree
daring dock
you would spawn a dummy gbu and blow it up
signal coral
like when we walk up the dam area they start to prepare the boxes and we have like idk 2 minutes or so to detect that they are doing so and take em out
torn tree
2 minutes
daring dock
well one thing at a time, so basically the condition would
if -> number of explosive boxes next to dam -> failure
Thats tight
torn tree
The first thing you'd have to manage is have enemies go to the crate, trigger a trigger and then walk away after a short pause
daring dock
well you could just trigger on number of objects that are typeOf ammo_explosive_whatever
torn tree
You still need enemies going there
signal coral
I stacked up 4 cases of explosives since 1 crate looks like nothing
daring dock
you could technically use any kind of crate
torn tree
Realism though
daring dock
none of this is realistic anyway
torn tree
Looks nicer when you look at it
daring dock
we're going to worry about it now?
that's it we're adding shipping containers
add the long shipping containers!
signal coral
βΊ
daring dock
So I'm guessing you use, ace, so you could use ace cargo
have a truck with ammo boxes in it, drive over, start putting boxes down with people patrolling around
the placing of boxes you could do in zeus to save time
so don't worry about that
signal coral
where do i find ace things in editor ?
daring dock
modules
daring dock
I don't have ace moduels memorized but there is ace cargo
and boxes automitcally work with it
signal coral
so i spawn a truck and then put the module on it ?
daring dock
just having the module anywhere should work
very few ace modules need syncing anythign
signal coral
but then where comes the truck from
signal coral
im confused
daring dock
ace cargo activates the ability to have cargo
literally just place the module
and don't do anything else
signal coral
so i put down the module, spawn a truck, put an explosive crate in it , set a trigget somehow when i figure out how to do that it drives to the dam ?
torn tree
Driving to the dam is as easy as placing down a waypoint
daring dock
The trigger is only for the end
signal coral
yeah but when does this waypoint get off , because if i set it wouldnt it just drive at the beginning of the mission?
daring dock
Trigger isn't relavent until the boxes are next to the dam
torn tree
Place a move wp right in front of the truck and sync that wp to a trigger
Then place every other wp after that
signal coral
first i need to figure out how to put a box in it
daring dock
Remote control a unit
In le zeus
You want to automate as much as you can but if you can't think of a way to do it with zeus
signal coral
i need to setup zeus for it dont i
is it enough to place down the game master zeus module ?
signal coral
got it , does it matter which one ? there is (blufor) etc
signal coral
aight
on a side note btw, i do very much appreciate you taking your time and energy to help me out here and basically answering my basic noob questions with patience
torn tree
Does your unit use MCC?
daring dock
no prob, I like getting people into misison making
signal coral
if you tell me what that stands for ;P
daring dock
MCC makes things easier but it's good to learn how to avoid relying on it.
torn tree
Mission control center
daring dock
it's a mod
signal coral
i think all i ever saw was alive
torn tree
It comes with zeus access thats why I was wondering
daring dock
MCC is famous for lowering framerates though, it's got so many scripts
when I was making misisons for 40-50 people we eventually had to phase MCC out which was only possible thanks to acihlles
signal coral
we have a 20gb packed mod file just for our server so i dont really know the whole list of addons except the ones we have in regular use
daring dock
don't worry about
torn tree
I was forced to use it though
daring dock
so was I until I found the alternative and made the templates myself
torn tree
Didnt know it killed the performance
daring dock
so Casey, when you open zeus do you get and option "add/remove units from zeus" under the zeus tab?
signal coral
so how do i add the crate to the back of the truck , so far its just placing it beneath
daring dock
I'll tell ya in a second
signal coral
daring dock
look in modules
then open the zeus tab, do you have any options like add/remove stuff?
(it's okay if you don't)
daring dock
that's the units tab
signal coral
arsenal remote control zeus lightning bolt
daring dock
so in the modules tab, there is another tab
okay so I reccomend you get this
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/191113-ares-mod-achilles-expansion/
which won't require any addtional download for players but is really useful for you
signal coral
okay let me just restart game and get it real quick
torn tree
Unless the server kicks out ppl with additional mods
daring dock
if that happens we'll have a backup plan
in fact if you're unit srever is up 24/7 just try connecting to it and see if you get into the lobby (although steam verification isn't work with a lot of servers since yesterday so we might not be able to)
signal coral
y i got the mod , gonna try and get on server
daring dock
if you can't get on the server it's not a definite because many servers aren't working right now
but if you do get in we definately know it works
signal coral
it better does we have training this evening π
daring dock
(might not be able to rip)
signal coral
wouldnt be so sad about it , i got early work tomorrow anyway, and im 1 hour behind my clan already since im german and most of them are from uk
signal coral
currently in loading screen
well see
mhm , it seems stuck on the loading screen where it says the build version top right
signal coral
should be fine tho
daring dock
so basically you have more tools in zeus
and you can use a thingy to add objects as editable to zeus
signal coral
uh rip, looks like we have ares in the mod pack https://puu.sh/tWY4d/4155153160.png
signal coral
well i cant edit what addons get loaded since its a mod pack we have
daring dock
well you coud
signal coral
how so, im just a user not the creator
signal coral
if i change the folder wont it just redownload?
daring dock
i men if you change the file arma sync will say so
if you find the ares addon and just delete it
the achilles will work
signal coral
trying that
yeah looks like its working π
got that add remove editable objects now
daring dock
so now you can add ai and put and remotecontrol them to pick up objects
signal coral
how do you mean
daring dock
so you don't have the little circle icons over units you placed in eden, but when you add them to zeus you should be able to
signal coral
daring dock
I don't see any boxes btw
signal coral
i didnt put any boxes
even if i put a box on the ground and try to pick it up with the ai guy it just says inventory
daring dock
you use ace action on the box to pick it up
walk over to the truck and use ace action on the truck there should be a load option
signal coral
oh yes they are "loaded" into the truck now , i guess they just dont show up on the back
daring dock
no, that would require to make a bunch of custom scripts
signal coral
so
we have a truck now that has a box of explosives on it , well done for an hour i guess π
daring dock
but for the sake of the mission you can now have the truck drive to the dam
and when it gets there you can take hte boxes out
signal coral
i go back to editor for that yeh
wait, i went back to editor and the box is suddenly next to the truck
actually can you drop me a link to your tutorial series ?
signal coral
well i just feel dumb for asking for a step by step , i dont think that should be the purpose ;P
daring dock
well none of these videos are much of a step by step thing so xD
signal coral
y i figured
well i am on the part where i put the crate in the truck via remote ai , went back to eden, crate is next to the truck, now if i want to move that truck to the dam i think i need a trigger for when it would drive up correct ?
daring dock
ya you could do a timer or when players enter it
signal coral
wonder where the best place to put the trigger is
since if i put it too far the drive to the dam will be to short
daring dock
where is most predictable
signal coral
500m trigger having outer circle on the dam should work, so we have different angles on which way my guys would go
daring dock
make sure you take into account the travel time of the truck
signal coral
well right now its sitting almost next to the dam
daring dock
oh so it's only a short distance
whatever you feel comfortable with considering it gives the illusion the truck drove there from farther away
signal coral
i just remembered , the truck thing will screw my first objective no ? find intel about the explosives in the first town
daring dock
well they won't go to the damn until they know anyway right
basically a seperate part of the mission
signal coral
yes well i sort of thought of it like there was kind of a special guy over there in that town that carries like a map of where they put the explosives on the dam, so if we get that we have the intel on where to find it once we get there so we can defuse it
ugh im gonna give it a rest for today and go try out for honor i guess
daring dock
okay
signal coral
btw my lead said he did something to the server, so now we are able to join again π im not sure if bi fixed their stuff or if he did something really clever to the server
daring dock
I'll get back to coding my stuff then xD
well, unless he blocked the ip for steam authentication, it fixed itself but okay
signal coral
daring dock
okay good
signal coral
anyway, thank you for your time today, ill prob. continue tomorrow after work , i added you on discord if thats alright , but i will try to keep questions to a minimum from now ;P
for honor looks great tho
daring dock
no problem, see ya around
naive linden
heya what do you people pack missions with these days addon builder sucks it wont pack it, pboProject neither
I dont want to use eden editor packing I do all manually
well Eliteness did it
sinful rampart
cpbo or Mikero makePbo or Mikero pboProject or addon builder. All work for me ^^
mostly cpbo. Very old tool from A2 times but for missions it still works atreat
naive linden
well eliteness did it for me and not like Im going to install gazilion of tools to do one thing, so I tried pboProject but it wouldnt pack nothing, addon builder is too dumb cause #includes and elitness had no complaints so we have a winner
I do pack addons with pboProject but for some reason it wont do missions.... meh case closed I guess
rugged cedar
Guys, is there a way to fix this error after editing a class name in my mission.sqm??
line 0: '.raP': '[]' encountered instead of '='
naive linden
yeah fix typo you made
rugged cedar
if I knew where the typo was I wouldn't be asking π
I have the file open in notepad++ and well..... it's like a page from Bletchely park!
Now, the thing is, when I changed the class names of a weapon, in the editor, the mission wouldn't load, so I thought easy enough, search for the missing class name, and simply replace it with the new class name...
Then the mission failed to show in the editor, and then the old line 0 started showing
rugged cedar
seems I had the "binarise mission" ticked so it's no wonder nothing made sense!
signal coral
good moaning boys
naive linden
will this work respawnTemplates[] = {"Revive","Spectator","MenuPosition"};
I want BI revive enabled, and if player gets killed he switches to spectator, and when the time runs out he then gets menuposition
not sure if that is the right setup or order
naive linden
ok I think these templates dont work from description.ext or are not required
but if I include class Params { #include "\a3\Functions_F\Params\paramRevive.hpp" }; that the server crashes
:/
novel rune
You cannot #include from addon space in description.ext. It's broken.
It will always crash the server, unless the .hpp is inside the mission folder.
Fix never.
naive linden
fekin...
how do I get fancy revive setting then in lobby
copy directly from the hpp
?
naive linden
ye seems to work
modern pulsar
I'm testing a mission using bis_fnc_bleedTickets and BIS_fnc_respawnTickets, set to 1ticket every 15 sec. It works on a listen server, but when I run it on a dedicated server, the tickets bleed way faster at 3tick/5sec. Any ideas?
turbid hamlet
perhaps both the server and you (the client) are running the script that bleeds tickets?
modern pulsar
it was in an isServer:
if (isServer) then
{
[west, 3000] call BIS_fnc_respawnTickets;
[east, 1500] call BIS_fnc_respawnTickets;
[[WEST,EAST],0.5, 1, 15] call BIS_fnc_bleedTickets;
It doesn't work outside of those either though. I think the module might just be broken; if I put the eden module down I see that the default bleed values are 3 every 5sec, which is what happens when I run my version on a dedi
but just the fact that it works as expected (1 every 15) as a listen server makes me think the module is herp-derp (using just the 3den placed module has the same problem; no matter what bleed values you enter it's always 3 every 5sec)
turbid hamlet
I used tickets in a TvT mission once , but I didn't use a module for the ticket bleeding (didn't know there was one)
instead I had the server remove one ticket every 10 seconds via script, similar to what you did
come to think of it, what do you use the module for? setting up the amount of tickets you start with?
modern pulsar
yeah inital tickets + bleeding depending on who has dominance
tropic ocean
Whats the best way to make a solid way of Plattforms? I'm trying actually but even with C&P it looks like this: https://img.knight-industries.org/2017-02-12_10-01-59.png
I just want a 6x20 Area "flatened" with that plattforms
ionic thorn
First guess is that they're following the bottom contour , hence why they're not flat.
river nymph
make it in the VR world then copy them over
ionic thorn
^
tropic ocean
hmm yeah that is what I can try thanks for this
that actually works they way Iwant it to lol n1
tropic ocean
my helos actually are doing a "I'm thinking that im flying" start but they shouldn't do that. Maybe its because of the self-built plattform? https://img.knight-industries.org/2017-02-12_13-36-12.png Any Ideas how to prevent this?
rocky carbon
yeah they wont initially regocnize that they are on surface and think they are in the air as there is no terrain surface beneath them. Setting fuel to 0 initially could work for instance and fuel them up later with a script or trigger
tropic ocean
but they are on this plattform. I'm not sure why this is not recognized as "surface"
rocky carbon
Its just not how the surface/altitude check works in that situation
tropic ocean
thats bad π¦
rocky carbon
Well your are building something off the normal scope there
so such is expected
sure it could be better
tropic ocean
well my expectation is that surface is also a plattform. I mean that would be better. Not sure if this "bug" will be fixed if I use pier walls. Lets just try that
lunar frigate
Hey, Is there a way to use the BIS_fnc_spawnGroup function with the custom Compositions feature of the eden editor?
Alternatively is there a way to quickly get something I can Copy and Past to create items at the locations specified in the editor?
Like I want to build a base in the editor, but then spawn it in with a script.
Just looking for short pipeline to take that information, and put it into a script. I used to use XCAM, and it would spit out a generation script to build the things you placed.
Like Basically, I want a base to get built as players complete objectives, Right now each "Stage" is saved as a custom composition, but I can't seem to find the path other the way to spawn it in the mission without placing it on the map.
o.k. found something, going to try it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=630702051&searchtext=E3DEN
pseudo zinc
How can i force AI to keep their guns raised?
daring dock
_soldier setBehaviour "COMBAT";
ty
lunar frigate
Looks like E3den is exactly what I wanted. Adds another option to Tools menu, export objects, and "Export Selected objects to .sqf";
Sometime some of the objects aren't exactly perfect, but mostly pretty solid.
What's the best way to activate a respawn position via script?
Building a mission and so far I've used triggers linked to modules to activate new spawns.
This spawn will be activated via an add-action script.
is there like a setSpawnActivated command I can just pass the Spawn module to?
fiery swift
can someone tell me whats the purpose of packing some things into a clientside pbo ?
byside from that? ^^
lets say i have a dialog in a mission wich would give a medical state about a person like leg wounded and this dialog has image pathΒ΄s to show the paa how big of a diffrence would it make?
because alot can be packed into the misson or not? like on most Invade & Annex servers i dont need any mod but still get custom pictures on Ad-Signs π
is there a "visible" performance "hit"
but by packing it into a pbo i could save the user from downloading the mission over and over again if the file gets to big or ?
torn tree
@fiery swift thats only useful when you want to use that pbo for multiple missions because need to download your mission only once anyways
hallow abyss
How to add Infos to Intel objects "Secret Documents (intel)" - "Intel_File2_F". When i place it in the Editor it has already a Pickup Action but i have no Options to add informations in 3den Editor.
jaunty marsh
Does anyone know how to play a custom sound file based on a objects location when a trigger is activated?
fiery swift
@jaunty marsh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJcdzPR_9kU
stone quiver
Dumb question, how hard is it to mass with missions from other makers? I wanna try to add Shactac, TFAR, CBA. Am I just asking for pain?
sinful rampart
To add these 3 Mods you don't need to modify the missions
daring dock
error:invalid data type. Those are mods not missions, and I don't think I understand what you mean by mass?
stone quiver
Brain derped Mass=merge. Didn't see that Armageddon is a mod, not a mission file. Huh. Interesting .
rocky carbon
Can't you just use them together. What do you mean by merging them?
stone quiver
Tbh thought it was a mission and I'd have to redo everything like when I edit ACE assets in other missions
mortal elk
Hey guys, so I'm playing some escape maps with my friends, and we want to disable the vanilla Arma3 Stamina, and force walk due to weight. I'm assuming I've got to edit/add something in the pbo. Can someone guide me on this? https://gyazo.com/41e29cf38e4fc62055f61ae69dee750b
So far I've added player enablestamina false; & player forcewalk false; to the InitplayerLocal.sqf
but nothing has changed
daring dock
hang on I got something for this @mortal elk
init.sqf
if (hasinterface) then {
waitUntil {!isnull player};
player enableStamina false;
player forceWalk false;
player setCustomAimCoef 0.5;
player setUnitRecoilCoefficient 1.6;
player addEventHandler ["Respawn", {
player enableStamina false;
player forceWalk false;
player setCustomAimCoef 0.5;
player setUnitRecoilCoefficient 0.3;
}];
};
don't worry about playerlocal, just put it in the init
mortal elk
Awesome thank you. Is the aim stuff necessary? Also, the mission is no death, only unconscious. so do i need the respawn stuff?
daring dock
no prob
mortal elk
@daring dock I can just tack this on to the end of init.sqf?
daring dock
I don't know how BI writes their SQFs but anywhere around halfway or later should be fine.
mortal elk
Worked great. thanks for the help man
daring dock
no problem, I'll be around
radiant basin
Hey, is there away to download mods from the workshop for my server that i am renting?
daring dock
I linked you some stuff in #arma3_questions , did it help?
radiant basin
@daring dock No it didn't :c but thanks for trying
azure parcel
@daring dock isn't the code in the respawn event handler better placed in onPlayerRespawn.sqf?
daring dock
it can but it works either way because you alread checked for "hasInterface" and are referencing "player" which event script init.sqf already gathers as an argument when running. The less files that need changing the better.
azure parcel
Alrighty
daring dock
also on an eventscript you need to specify if you're targeting the old unit or new unit
via _this select 0
azure parcel
I asked this in #arma3_questions a short while ago but got no response, so I might as well try here. Has anyone here ever run into a problem with arsenal crates trying to reset player inventories to what they would be at spawn whenever someone accesses it? i.e. Medic spawns with 3 medkits in vest, accesses arsenal, suddenly has 6 medkits, removes all of them, goes back in, 3 medkits again.
daring dock
running any mods?
azure parcel
ACE, RHS, ALiVE, but the bug was present before RHS at least
daring dock
ACE does that
azure parcel
any way for me to prevent it?
daring dock
uhmm...I don't know if you can, but the lead guy on ACE hangs around in scripting. There's probably a script solution
Have you tried using a diffrent backpack?
azure parcel
it still happens if you change uniform/vest/backpack
daring dock
ACE likes to convert the medical stuff into bandages and other things of the sort
azure parcel
Yeah but it adds other items too
for instance my squad leader was complaining about suddenly having 20+ grenades in his inventory after using arsenal
daring dock
try running without ACE and if the problem goes away we can be sure before digging into the issue there
Don't wanna chase a red herring if it's not the problem
azure parcel
sure thing
azure parcel
@daring dock just confirmed, issue isn't there when ace is removed
daring dock
okay so at least we know it's ACE
rocky sinew
Hi all, im looking for some script suggestions to make my mission template stand out from the norm.
I dont want to increase my mod line but would like tp spice up my missions.
For example I added push boat script to my tanoa template, as well as shushi's breaching script.
So any suggestions or recommendations for new/interesting scripts would greatly be appreciated.
daring dock
If you have the patience to learn GUIs they always make people go "wow" because they can physically see the result
between that and getting character dialogue the rest is just minor back end stuff
dry whale
Hey guys, got a question about Zeus for you. So, sometimes when Zeusing one of my missions, my computer crashes. Not surprising, #Arma (love you BI), but my main problem is that when I relaunch my game, go back into server, and slot back in as the unit with Zeus capabilities, I no longer have Zeus access! Anyone have any solutions for this?
Also, I know there was previously a mod that allowed anyone who logged in with the Admin password on the server to get Zeus. I'm not sure where to find that mod - I'm sure that would be a solution to my problem if I could find it.
daring dock
need delete the zeus module and create a new one, resync it to the entity, to reset it.
Sounds like MCC
dry whale
Nah not MCC - it was just a server side mod. Haven't used it in a couple years.
Problem is that it is still a persistent mission - can't relaunch the mission as I have 60+ guys on the ground.
So I can't delete the zeus module and create a new one.
daring dock
you can from a script
it wouldn't matter if you went back to editor anyway because you'd have to put up a new mission file
daring dock
not that I've seen
I've had this issue before but I run mission no longer than 2 hours so it hasn't been an issue
dry whale
Yeah we do 3hour ish missions with a TON of mods
so sometimes I crash loading in and out of Zeus
daring dock
I mean I have 30gb of modes and I don't crash
The mission probably just has too many units
split valve
@dry whale to allow a logged in admin to be Zeus, you can put #adminLogged as the owner
dry whale
@winged chasm Seriously? That's awesome. I'll give it a go tomorrow morning.
Would that allow it so that say one person could be zeusing, then log out of Admin, and another person could log in and continue where the last zeus logged off?
Or would you still need to reboot the mission, or do the script as Nitro suggested.
dry whale
Well that's just lovely. I'll give it a go as soon as I get back on my PC.
mossy echo
@dry whale I've got a script that works with all types of Zeuses, I'll give you it once I'm home.
naive linden
so BI revive doesnt work unless its enabled in the eden editor or am I missing something?
https://hastebin.com/vesosepake.ini this is what I use in description.ext and I didnt do nothing in editor, or I did but I disabled it/reverted to original, but iirc values in description.ext should be considered primary and they overtake editor values
dry whale
@mossy echo Thanks man, I would appreciate that.
@naive linden Yeah you have to enable it under multiplayer settings in editor, then configure it how you like.
Same thing with respawning.
dry whale
@mossy echo Do I need to do anything with the Zeus module?
mossy echo
Nope, this simply allows the Zeuses to join mid-game
mossy echo
probably
mossy echo
np (:
azure parcel
afaik you shouldn't need another script if you're using #adminLogged, as it already switches to whoever is admin mid-mission
marsh rampart
Hey is there an easy way to identify apex assets laid in a mission? We've just had an influx of new players and we're finding they can't play a lot of our missions because the mission contains assets from the expansion. It's frustrating searching for that 1 piece of fence or single asset in the mission that stops a handful of new players from being able to play. (I thought it wasn't supposed to work like that?)
marsh rampart
be nice if they were highlighted in the editor somehow. I like to build intricate bases etc and it's a shame when a portion of our playerbase can't play the mission because I goofed and placed a single piece of fence from APEX
worthy rampart
The restriction only applied to objects and buildings from the expansion that aren't "props". I don't think they'll have "exp", but a way to check that with scripting would be to look at https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/allMissionObjects and look if thi returns expansion from it https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/configSourceMod
marsh rampart
Ok yeah, I was thinking if I was smart I'd write a script to place a dot marker on the map at every expansion asset. You know... if I was smart π¦
I might pop into the scripting channel and see if there's anyone willing to do something like that. Thanks for the info
signal coral
is there an external tool to unbinerize mission.sqm files? if the mission file gets corrupted and cant be opened in the editor is there a way to recover that?
sinful rampart
Mikero's depbo, PboManager, armake
prime dome
Dedmen i think he wants to unbinerize sqm files, not extract pbo
But yeah, in editor go to scenario preferences, uncheck binarise, save scenario again.
Not sure about the second qustion
split valve
@marsh rampart In the entities list in the editor (press E and it'll come up on the left side) you can see Apex objects with the Apex logo (see png above). Select it in the list and press F and the camera will move right to it.
marsh rampart
Ohshit good stuff man, I didnt think about that. Thanks very much
split valve
No worries π I went on that snipe hunt at one point, and then finally noticed the logo. π
sinful rampart
@prime dome Mikero's depbo and armake can unbinarize. Pbo Manager maybe too. I dunno.
prime dome
Ah.
didn't know
Pbo manager hasn't been updated in quite some time afaik, so probably doesn't. I just use it for PBO-ing
mortal elk
So, I play Escape maps on my server, and on one of the maps, there are no slots when loading the mission. 1. this is mission side and not map side right? 2. Which file do I edit to add the slots?
pearl nexus
not sure if there is another way but the default method of creating a slot is placing a unit and making it playable in the editor.
river nymph
usually when the slotting list doesnt show up theres a mod mismatch between mission, client and server
river nymph
see if you can host it in local MP (so host from your game). If it has slots then, its the mods on the server not being right
if it doesnt, you dont have the right mods
etc
mortal elk
So that is it
I'm not very familiar with uploading a single map to the server, I only used CUP Maps which is fairly simple. am I missing a step with this map? Map is CLA_Clafghan.
I just put the map in the root folder as @Clafghan
daring dock
oh dear
When you put in an addon into the server's main directory, the one that contains the arma3.exe you copy the folder with @ then you make sure you aren't missing any dependencies or you might be kept from launching, and that your server has the mission pbo in MPMissions folder
mortal elk
all done
the mod in question @CLA_Clafghan 0.3.1 has inside it : @CLA_Clafghan 0.3; Addons; meta.cpp
inside @CLA_Clafghan 0.3 there is mod.cpp; mod.paa
and inside Addons is all the pbos
I simply put the whole folder of @CLA_Clafghan 0.3.1 in my root folder
is this correct?
mortal elk
it does, im guessing because of the name, an older version? but but one has mod.cpp and mod.paa in it
daring dock
it still won't work, it needs a folder called addon inside of the first @ folder
icy comet
Is there a way to change the mission name in the mp mission selector? Like bohemia does with their missions because mine always have the file name.
sinful rampart
Description.ext and somewhere in the mission Attributes. But I thought Eden moved all the description stuff into some UI's in the editor
icy comet
As I said It does not work
The name you put there will not show up in the mission selection screen
pearl thunder
the missions I have all work fine with the mission name showing in the mission list
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
icy comet
okay I show you what I did
pearl thunder
better be quick then ^^
also, did you (re)export the mission for MP, reupload the exported mission and restarted the server?
icy comet
I never changed what I did and yes It exported it
but I did not restart the server
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866188251 this is what I have entered
pearl thunder
restarting the A3 server is essential
icy comet
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866188274 and this is how it looks
pearl thunder
restart the server and everything will be fine
I think it only reads the mission data on startup
it should even lock the files
pearl thunder
kill server > reupload > check
icy comet
still not fixed
icy comet
thanks
torn tree
@icy comet Let me know too if you figure that out. That "name box" does what it wants. Sometimes, it works just fine, other times, it only works in MP missions while in editor it keeps showing the filename, and othertimes it doesn't work no matter what
south holly
@icy comet I made a mission way back before Eden where the name did not show up properly, and IIRC I figured out that I had gone way overboard with set decoration and cutting down on the objects in the scene suddenly made the name show up properly
icy comet
how the heck can the count of objects influence the mission name?
south holly
I have no idea, and didn't have time to investigate further, but cutting down on the objects seemed to be the thing that fixed it back then
If you have a ton of objects in the scene, try copying the mission and deleting them and see if it helps?
icy comet
I also dont have tons of objects XD
Im not even using the task modules cuz they dont work well for me
also I only have 3 triggers
you see its a very small mission
south holly
Then it's probably not that
icy comet
mmmh could it be that I need a translation file or something like that?
south holly
Dunno, man, it's been a looong while since I've done anything with Arma and that was the only suggestion I had
raven whale
@icy comet briefingName ="my mission"; in description.ext works
icy comet
Im going to test that
Holy cookie jesus
it worked
why the cookie isnt that on the wiki?
azure parcel
cookie?
plucky glade
Question about the Guard waypoint ... If I don't snc the backup units with G waypoints to a guarded by trigger - is it normal that they will go to any friendly unit that is under attack?
plucky glade
sync
pearl nexus
you can edit messages by right clkicking
plucky glade
Well thanks for that - did not know π
plucky glade
So it seems that units somehow can "call for help" and groups with a guard WP will move, even if they are synced to a guarded by trigger - is this intended behaviour?
plucky glade
I did but please correct me if I misunderstood - I am under the impression that they will only goto a guarded by trigger when the originally guarding unit has been dispersed.
' The units will unerringly move to the 'Guarded By' triggers, positioning themselves exactly on top of them. They will act according to their normal rules of engagement (Fire at all, engage at will, etc). When a group either starts fleeing or is destroyed, any other groups standing by with a Guard waypoint will move in to take their place.'
Thing is .. mine even move to other units and positions with no guarded by trigger area
I'll try to make a demo mission.
elfin moon
[]: 'bin\config.bin/CfgParches/IDF_helmets/' not an array
i get this whenever i load the mission
nothing seems broken but just want some info on if this is a gamebreaking or if i can leave it there
novel rune
fix it
plucky glade
So I've recorded my demo mission if anyone has ideas please help me out so that my groups with guard points don't just go wandering off becauase a completely unrelated group got killed. https://youtu.be/_CFz8zCb4sA
and with wandering off I mean going 3-4 kms across the map
on foot
Off to bed..
south holly
@plucky glade https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Waypoint_types#Guard "Besides guarding areas marked by "Guarded by" triggers, guarding groups are also ordered to destroy any enemy units which are known to any group of the same side."
plucky glade
SEriously? That jsut does not make any sense. Missed that because I just read https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Waypoint:Guard
TILT now I can scrap the whole mission I've been working on for two days . oh well clean slate.
Thanks anyway totally missed that - I guess it got too late yesterday.
prime dome
It's a good way to get a dynamic defence rolling
if you just want them to sit in an area and defend it, use HOLD
modern pulsar
So if I have a mission on Altis and add Apex structures (like the green sandbags) does that stop non-apex owners from joining? I didn't think so but it seems to be behaving that way
novel rune
They won't be able to see the APEX exclusive assets and will be able to walk and fire through them.
modern pulsar
how sure are you about that
novel rune
What do you mean? If you don't own APEX, you physically don't have the assets on your machine.
modern pulsar
because I thought it was either going to be 1) you can't join at all or 2) non-apex owners can have all that non-critical stuff for free
I thought it downloaded it for everyone regardless of ownership
novel rune
Well, you're wrong then.
I don't specifically know about the green sandbags, but generally, assets have to exist on the clients machine and they don't if they are from the APEX DLC.
And no, the game does not download any assets if you join a mission, aside from stuff inside the mission PBO file.
And it would take ages to download APEX objects-
modern pulsar
yeah obviously it won't donwload that content from the game server...
novel rune
From where else?
modern pulsar
I'd just assumed everyone had apex content so they could join missions using apex objects
but obviously not be able to play on tanoa / use apex vehicles as driver
novel rune
Nope, you only have the APEX assets, if you bought the DLC.
modern pulsar
Alright well that's a bit shit, but oh well
novel rune
There was a guy here two days ago that specifically asked for a script to show APEX content on the map, so he can remove it from the mission.
modern pulsar
Eh no worries I can remove them manually quite easily, thanks for the tip though
heli/marksman DLC props should still allow non-owners to join though right? it's only the expansion that has that issues because it's a separate download
novel rune
Aside from APEX content, all other DLCs have their assets on everyone's installation.
prime dome
Sandbags are structures @modern pulsar
So afaik they require ownership
Everyone has apex weapons, vehicles, units
And i think some props as well
But structures/buildings, etc + map require Apex DLC
prime dome
Is it just me or do global commands like join, setPosATL, setObjectTextureGlobal not work consistently in MP when run server side? I'm having to remoteExec them to work properly...
novel rune
They work just fine.
prime dome
@novel rune well clearly we play different games
might just be JIP issues
except join not working
that wasn't a JIP thing
novel rune
All of these commands work for JIP.
prime dome
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
novel rune
Make a repro.
prime dome
Hmmm.
this is the script for the join thing http://pastebin.com/rDyGvHHN
works in self hosted server with AI
didn't work on DS
Proper repro mission will come soon β’
(it'll probably just be the mission i'm having issues with, don't really have the time to set up an isolated thing)
novel rune
When is this executed? Smells like race condition with playableUnits being empty.
prime dome
script called towards from another script, which is called from the end of init.sqf
i.e. init.sqf -> script1 -> script2 with the join thing
novel rune
I'd make sure you script actually runs and variables like GrpCSAT_VIP are defined correctly.
diag_log and observing the server rpt
prime dome
Well they should be, since script1 has:
// check if both units exist, if yes then move them to the location and set flags appropriately
if !(isNil "UnitCSAT_SUR1") then
{
//UnitCSAT_SUR1 setPosATL _spawnLocation;
[UnitCSAT_SUR1, _spawnLocation] remoteExec ["setPosATL",UnitCSAT_SUR1,true];
_flag1 = 1;
};```(the commented out bit wouldn't work)
novel rune
script1 -> script2 -> script3 is definitely no stable environment to check if a script command is broken. There can be so many user errors on the journey
prime dome
and i only call script 2 if those units exist
I just find it interesting that they work if remoteExec-ed
novel rune
You create artificial delays by using that command.
prime dome
haven't tried with join though
I see.
Does execVM-ing them open a possibility for issues, too?
novel rune
There are always possibilities of issues, idk what you mean exactly.
diag_log
server RPT
That's how you find out.
And it's the only way to find out.
prime dome
okay. I can do the diag log thingy, server RPT will be tricky, i'm not an admin π
But, thanks.
Might just be easier to remote exec π
novel rune
All I can tell you is, that hundreds of people have used setPos, join and setObjetTextureGlobal on servers before and there were no issues.
And there is no need to remotely execute these commands, since they all accept remote units and they all have global effects.
prime dome
Aye, i'm aware they're global, is why i was using them in the first place π
But yeah, they weren't working for reasons unknown
novel rune
Maybe you're right and they're all bugged.
But then you have to make a repro mission that is as straight forward as possible to confirm and report.
prime dome
And setObjectTextureGlobal...people seem to call it multiple times before they see an effect, if it's applied in object init and stuff. I've taken to remoteExecing setObjectTexture (non-global) to make it reliable.
Yeah, repos just take time
And knowing Arma there's a high chance that an attempted repo won't show an issue π
Oh BTW, these commands all worked fine in local hosted MP
OH WAIT small detail i forgot to mention
setPosATL
novel rune
people seem to call it multiple times before they see an effect, if it's applied in object init and stuff
People do all kinds of stuff. 3 different reports from people claiming that ACE settings stopped working after 3.9. Everyone that reported an RPT got told that they forgot something and they all fixed it.
prime dome
On DS, it didn't move me, as a player
but the other VIP? was AI, got moved
same group too
novel rune
Your player unit does not exist on the server, if the mission has ai disabled for player slots at the init phase
It all sounds like race conditions
prime dome
AI was enabled...
eh, i'll look at it again
initial question was just to check if the issue is widely known
novel rune
It's not. I at least never heard of it.
torn tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9ZGPO7n-A Any thoughts on this mess of a creation? I actually turned it into a lil game of "attempt to outrun the CSAT dude so that he doesn't explode in your face"
Since when does cfgsounds actually include a syntax to change not only volume and pitch but also max audible distance in the same array? I literally wrote myself a function that would do smth similar because the say3D distance annoyed me :S
lost osprey
Is there fairly simple way to add in a sandstorm to a mission?
I've tried to use the MKY mod and I can't even get the demo mission to work, not sure if it's broken or what
ionic thorn
I do believe Alias has a script
pale topaz
daring dock
omg that name is cancer plz change
ionic thorn
It's difficult to tag
azure parcel
it also doesn't look too appealing
pearl nexus
i'm digging the profile pic though.
grave harness
guys, is there a tutorial anywhere on how to create a simple team-deathmatch game ?
I got nothing on youtube or google
So far what i did:
- Create arena
- Add respawn position module (2x - One for Blufor, one for Redfor)
- Add Tickets (set to 20 each side)
- Add Countdown (5 minutes)
- Place playable units
- ???
- No-profit
ionic thorn
Have you had a look at Murcialago's or even Celerys A2 stuff?
grave harness
too feature rich
torn tree
@grave harness what specifically are you struggeling with?
The simpliest TDM is, have playable blufor and opfor units, markers named simply "respawn" (can have any surfix like numbers when you copy and paste it around), have the playable units have move waypoints + cycle waypoint and enable respawn on custom location WITHOUT ticking any boxes. Then host as MP
Then you should have a TDM with AI thats moving around (make sure AI score is enabled aswell) and you respawn at a random location depending on where the markers are (have loads of them)
grave harness
Well, was looking for a simple game using the respawn position module, ticket module and countdown module. Couldn't really find any documentation or tutorials on how to use them or set them up for a simple deathmatch game
torn tree
Forget about modules :D
grave harness
i thought the "respawn" marker was the old method
torn tree
Well
grave harness
and the module was new
torn tree
Both work
Well actually
Respawn markers are the default way of doing respawns
If you want selectable respawns, markers that have been preplaced will work but if you want to add respawns midgame there is a function to add respawn locations
Countdown: just plop down a trigger with condition true and 300 sec timeout (5 min) and sync it to a scenario ending module (zeus has it) and set it so it shows victory for thebside having the highest score
Tickets: Uhhhm
But yeah you dont really need a respawn module for infantry to respawn. You could try to access the 2D editor and look at the modules there because in the 2D editir it would show you how to sync a module / what to sync it with
formal citrus
I have a function for ambient artillery fire that seems to work fine when run isolated in a simple mission, but fails to perform in a bigger scripted mission context. E.g. the artillery in the sample mission elevates the barrel and shoots nicely. In the bigger scripted mission it just fires horizontally, no barrel is ever raised. The script is at : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24047108/ Any ideas what might be the core reason for this?
formal citrus
self answer: there seems to be races / not enough scripting resources for the doWatch command in the initialization. When I put a sleep 60 at the start to wait until all the other scripts have been started, the artillery fires nicely
edgy gull
Quick question: I have a mission with a dialog. Is there any way to apply changes to its definitions without restarting the whole mission every time?
I thought diag_mergeconfigfile would reload the dialog config on the fly, but apparently not. Or I just used it wrong.
mild minnow
How do you create checks for: if unit(s) in vehicle then vehicle to then run a command or waypoint.
novel rune
if (_unit in _vehicle) then {
// do stuff
};
balmy jasper
torn tree
@novel rune whats better? _unit in _vehicle or vehicle _unit == _vehicle?
novel rune
idk, I think using in this way is very easy on the eyes compared to the more common one you posted.
carmine apex
any way to get Config: array[] += { "abc" }; in mission files working?
novel rune
That makes no sense.
There only is one mission config file.
+= is for config patches
The mission config does not patch the master (addon) config
mild minnow
Where is the best places to get information about scripting and making your own custom missions?
ionic thorn
https://forums.bistudio.com
http://killzonekid.com/category/games/arma-3/
http://www.ofpec.com
... and there are many many more..
mild minnow
Thank you for your feedback, @ionic thorn . Much appreciated.
ionic thorn
Welcome
long stone
Hey guys, i was wondering if anyone knew how to make the VTOL aircraft land without flying over the landing zone and circling back? Ideally would like it to land like a normal helicopter. Any help would be much appreciated thanks
prime dome
Scroll wheel menu > thrust vectoring
torn tree
@prime dome He's talking about AI behaviour
@long stone You can't but with Arma's AI I'm happy if they can land at alll
I mean, you cant force them into hover mode
prime dome
Oh I see, sorry.
torn tree
Yeah, its the problem of the AI not entering hover mode until it already flew over its expected landing zone, but unfortunalty you cant force the AI into hovering earlier and unitCapture / unitPlay are no good options either because that wouldnt change the rotors to hover (Looks kinda weird, again, you can't force it with AI piloting it) and atleast as far as I've noticed, you cant force the landing gear down either :/
azure parcel
AI in my experience hate landing in general
torn tree
The best way to get helis to land is to place invisible helipads whereever you want them to land. They'll always prefer to land on those. If you let them decide where they want to land..... just no
Well, the land waypoint + inv helipad did the job just fine
What did landAt do BEFORE that change though
Ohhh I get it, landAt was basically for planes only
Though I'm unlikely to touch AI helis for as long as their AI is broken
Ever observed the AI trying to engage targets with the Hellcat?
Almost every russian RHS heli suffers from that issue and I once spotted the blackfoot do the same thing, basically escaping the enemy rather than using its firepower to combat them
Back in arma 2 even transport helis with door gunners would perform gun runs. Now most of the heli pilots turned into pacifists
REALLY???
xD
The weird thing is: The AI helis are still able to use the guns they have either if they have guided missiles OR if the target is right in front of them
Weirdly enough, the AH-9 (weakest helicopter in vanilla) engages targets quite happily
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaah, compared to THAT problem, the heli thing really is small, but I wouldnt say that it should be ignored as for me it is somewhat important that AI helis can actually be opponents to worry about, or allies that can help you when you are on the ground. Luckly I only ever had that 3 FPS glitch once π
Not that you said it should be ignored but, you know, I basically broke my head trying to analyze whats wrong with those helis and trying to force them to do something
What about the tank PhysX glitch though?
You know, the one where they suddendly get a lot of speed either forward or backwards for no specific reason other than having several metric tons of metal being thrown around possibly near friendlies
prime dome
not feasible for BI to fix in my opinion
Honestly I'd rather they decide it's not feasible than we give them an excuse for it.
Seeing that so many unfeasible things have since become feasible
torn tree
Well who knows, mayby they fix it mayby they wont. It's not a massive issue since tanks are still very usable but its both hilarious and sometimes annoying whenever it happens. Once had an AI tank crash over another AI tank which flipped it. Hilarious but unwanted.
Another thing that once happend is that the AI mounted up a tank and the first thing to happen was that it launched backwards down the entire road with it
slender stump
Is there a module during mission making that I can restrict 3rd person viewing or do I have to use a script?
torn tree
Just increase the difficulty of the mission
slender stump
ah, I can't restrict it regardless of the difficulty?
torn tree
If you use a dedicated server, select the highest possible difficulty. If you used a locally hosted server, go into your options into custom difficulty and disable third person, then host the mission with custom difficulty.
I believe there is a way to detect third person actually
slender stump
ok, I can fix that. I thought there might be a ARMA 3 vanilla module. I can use ACEX to do it.
azure parcel
@torn tree you can set custom difficulties in dedicated as well
torn tree
Yeeeeeeeah but the easy way to do it without messing with profiles is to just put it on veteran
prime dome
@torn tree it's all tracked vehicles so it absolutely is a problem.
It's also shit to have infantry get killed because the IFV did a flip on them.
I mean it's been 4 years since the Alpha now, and 4 years since this bug.
I'll be irritated if it's unfixable but I do hope that they take a good look at it
Before declaring it so
At best I'm willing to wait till #tanksDLC for an official answer
lapis isle
Hey guys!
I have a Question. Im building mission where I would like to set an ambush using IED and BRDM
I set a BTR to move to the IED and I want the enemy BRDM to push to that IED location afterwards
when the BTR is destroyed
how do I sync it?
prime dome
place a trigger around the IED
sync it to IED
on activation code:
((synchronizedObjects thisTrigger) select 0) setDamage 1;```alternatively name the IED ied1 and
ied1 setDamage 1;
i assume you know the trigger conditions (PRESENT, ANYBODY)
make another trigger with no condition selected and no radius, type switch
name BTR something, lets say btr1
in this trigger's condition field, put sqf !alive btr1
give the BRDM a hold waypoint in front of it, and sync it to this trigger
put down another waypoint , this time move, near the IED's location
@lapis isle
lapis isle
Thanks you I will check it right away !
I needed a push I was stuck in a point where BTR is destroyed and BRDM didnt move
No wi know I should have put second trigger π
prime dome
haha glad i could help
lapis isle
but tell me. I can not sync it I can only make it set point on activation
or something like that my Arma is not in English
set activation of the navigation point i guess
prime dome
yeah, it should be set wapoint activation (or closest translation)
before the 3D editor it used to just be sync
so excuse older mission makers, we're slow to adopt new terms sometimes π
similarly if someone asks you to "group" a trigger with units, they mean "set trigger owner"
lapis isle
no no no Its ok π I just make sure I got it right
Ok it works, thanks you π
I would like to bother you for 2 more minutes
The last thing I need to finish my mission
I have 4 boxes of matches (I thing I might group them to be taken from the groud as 1) and I want them to be recovered
I made something like this
this addAction ["WeΕΊ zapaΕki","collect.sfq"];
and in the sqf file I put
Player SwitchMove "AinvPercMstpSrasWrflDnon_Putdown_AΒmovPercMstpSrasWrflDnon";
Sleep 0.5;
DeleteVehicle matches;
yet still they lay on the ground
it says there is something wrong with deleteveh
torn tree
Ehm
"this addAction ["WeΕΊ zapaΕki","collect.sfq"];" "sfq" should be "sqf"
Also I suggest doing it more like this: _matchbox = _this select 0; Player SwitchMove "AinvPercMstpSrasWrflDnon_Putdown_AΒmovPercMstpSrasWrflDnon"; Sleep 0.5; DeleteVehicle _matchbox;
lapis isle
aaaa haha maybe there is the problem
sfq sqf
didnt see that
I there a way not to make separate SQF file per matchbox?
Thank you very much it works π
@torn tree
torn tree
@lapis isle My code does exactly that. You can have anything collectable what has that addaction attached to it, but it works for single objects only (So basically, no composition of objects)
lapis isle
That's very handy!
Yet I saw an error saying that "this" is not acurate
This means I dont have to name all the objects?
torn tree
No you dont but if you use "this" make sure to use it in the objects init field
lunar frigate
Hey guys I'm trying to use https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_endMissionServer But it doesn't seem to work for anyone who's dead and a spectator in ACE3. What's like the actual best way to end a mission. I keep having missions where either the server ends and people are like running around with everything frozen, or like some people get the mission end screen or whatever.
torn tree
endMission "END1";
lunar frigate
but that's like an instant end right? doesn't play the music or anything, just cuts to debreif?
torn tree
jup
but you know, you could always make yourself some sort of custom ending before endMission but its a good way to instantly terminate the mission
daring dock
You need to use CfgDebriefing
class CfgDebriefing
{
// Used when all players die in MP
class endDeath
{
title = "Both teams have died.";
description = "Everyone was killed by the bomb.";
picture = "KIA";
};
};
["endDeath",false,2] call BIS_fnc_endMission;
huh Revo To end a mission properly on a server, use BIS_fnc_endMissionServer instead
@daring dock He wants to use BIS_fnc_endMissionServer not BIS_fnc_endMission though π
And that one has several predefined strings. Can also be executed via one of the zeus modules if I'm not mistaking
daring dock
endMissionServer doesn't have as many paramters for custom endings
and can' use custom endings
he could just as easily run a remotely executed script globally that has the custom, what I like to call, outro sequence
torn tree
With "Custom endings" I mean, so smth with scripts before you end the mission and then end the mission
I did a "custom ending" myself by freezing all units, showing a hint which side won, make the screen fade to black with end music playing and then the mission would end
lunar frigate
endMissionserver Doesn't work well with ace spectator
only ends for players who are still alive
doesn't end mission for playabe units of type game logic
novel rune
Good point. The function seems to use bis_fnc_listPlayers, which probably doesn't work with spectators.
torn tree
Idea
Use endMissionServer, then put a sleep in of about the time that it would normally take for the mission to end after endMissionServer has been executed (Because the mission doesnt end right away, you know, music and stuff) and then after the sleep use endMission "END1"; to forcefully end the mission on all clients. I'm pretty sure that the problem is that the mission doesn't actually end for everyone, and using endMission will force everyone to be sent to the debrief including spectators
novel rune
or just rewrite the function
torn tree
Its a lil more fancy than just a sudden "You are now in Debrief" screen
novel rune
Is this the same argument as for the edited main menu again? I hope no one plays Arma for pretty cutscenes.
torn tree
No but I'm just saying that ending the mission with a sudden cut is less enjoyable than having a proper ending cutscene. KOTH for example isn't ending with an instant teleport to debrief either
novel rune
case "sidescore": {
private ["_sides","_scoreMax","_winners"];
_sides = [east,west,resistance,civilian];
_scoreMax = 0;
_winners = [];
{
if (playableslotsnumber _x > 0) then {
private ["_score"];
_score = scoreside _x;
if (_score > _scoreMax) then {
_scoreMax = _score;
_winners = [_x];
} else {
if (_score == _scoreMax) then {
_winners set [count _winners,_x];
};
};
};
} foreach _sides;
[["SideLost",false,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",_sides - _winners] call bis_fnc_mp;
[["SideWon",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",_winners] call bis_fnc_mp;
[["",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",allcurators] call bis_fnc_mp;
};
Seems to handle curators
But the spectator entities probably have no side. Or are at least not civilian
SIDE_LOGIC
or whatever it is
torn tree
Probably
novel rune
So all you need to do is to rewrite that code block. bis_fnc_endMission is fine just bis_fnc_endMissionServer is borked
torn tree
That code would need to be rewritten to have everyone who isnt east,west,resistance,civilian get that [["",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",allcurators] call bis_fnc_mp;
If arma wouldnt take 5 minutes to launch for me I'd go check what side spectators are
novel rune
2 lzy 2 entr steam pw
torn tree
Autologin ftw π But ya know, its like 6:39 AM and I'm just too lazy for everything
Just out of curiosity, what would happen if [["",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",allcurators] call bis_fnc_mp; was actually [["",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",allplayers] call bis_fnc_mp; and above [["SideLost",false,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",_sides - _winners] call bis_fnc_mp; [["SideWon",true,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",_winners] call bis_fnc_mp; ?
Last time I spammed the end scenario module, everytime I spawned it it caused the previous fancy endscreen to be overwritten and basically start from the beginning, so basically the previous end scenario thingy was cancelled by placing another one down
Wonder if that would happen in that case aswell except that we are 200% certain that everyone is getting the end screen one way or another
novel rune
Don't think spectators are listed in allUnits either, but not sure.
torn tree
*allPlayers
novel rune
Yeah, same. Not sure.
torn tree
Launches Arma 3
Just wait like 10 mins then I have the answer
Alright. allUnits returns empty. allPlayers returns the spectators aswell. Side of the spectator is "LOGIC". Tested on a locally hosted MP server
novel rune
cool
[["SideLost",false,nil,nil,true],"bis_fnc_endMission",[sideLogic]] call bis_fnc_mp;
if only they used events and not remoteExec / bis_fnc_mp
Then this could be fixed with a one liner in ACE or the mission.
also
case default {
[_type,"bis_fnc_endMission"] call bis_fnc_mp;
};
They use case default instead of default
torn tree
wat
novel rune
You know how the syntax normally goes right?
torn tree
Yup
novel rune
default CODE is a command that sets the code to be executed if no condition in switch is true.
it returns nothing
(just like setDamage would return nothing)
So you end up with:
case nil
Which does nothing either
So the case is just useless
But doesn't error
torn tree
Bohemia has done well that day they made that
novel rune
I see it used that way in a few places. I think they're just confused about their own syntax and why it doesn't error.
You can write this too:
case case case case case case case case default {
[_type,"bis_fnc_endMission"] call bis_fnc_mp;
};
Same thing
torn tree
That would only activate if case is case case case case case case case default
torn tree
So the cases dont do anything if it ends with default?
novel rune
You have to read it from right to left. And beginning with the first case it all reports nil and no longer does a thing.
Any command fed with nil does nothing
endMission nil
does nothing
player setDamage nil
does nothing either
But it also doesn't error.
At the point where the first case is executed and does nothing thanks to default reporting nil, the CODE block for the no-condition-is-met in the switch block is already set.
lapis isle
hey guys! Urgent question
Can I reverse the action of overdriving the mission?
I went to an empty map and istead of LOAD I saved the empty map for finished mission
Can I undo it?
sinful rampart
Don't think so.If you've overwritten the old mission data then no real way
lapis isle
Well shit :/ luckily I had a backup version no so distant from the final version π
OK thanks π
sinful rampart
Version control π
daring dock
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/926/330/4dc.gif overdriving the mission
I have a git with 5 branches for version control
civic sierra
we play a game mode called aas and the zones are comprised from ellipse's, would there be any way to set the elevation of an ellipse , for use on something like an oilrig? this way people above or below wouldnt be able to take a zone
pearl nexus
can't you do that with triggers in eden now? like lift them and give them a height too
novel rune
I don't think they respect their height.
pearl nexus
they?
novel rune
triggers probably do 2d distance checks.
azure parcel
according to https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/191168-how-to-change-height-and-bottom-of-trigger/ it should be possible
can't test atm
@civic sierra
pearl nexus
i see. sorry. never really use the editor. was picturing a sphere but itS' a giant endless cylinder
pearl nexus
actually it seems to be possible. there are different types of triggers
novel rune
But they all only have a and b size
novel rune
c (Optional): Number - trigger area Z size / 2, in meters (Since Arma 3 v1.59.135137)
There it is. Possible since 1.60
pearl nexus
cool. good to know
civic sierra
i tried setting it to a trigger with the z, unless i did it wrong. before adding anything to an oilrig i just tested it in one of our templates i raised the zone 400m but i was still able to take the zone on the ground. it is a sort of endless cylinder but it does have an elevation cap, as we cant take the zone from after a certain elevation in a chopper
novel rune
z / height seems infinite by default, you have to edit the size of the trigger and elevate it.
civic sierra
dataType="Marker";
position[]={3401.8296,104.21147,13503.023};
name="respawn_west";
text="respawn_west";
markerType="ELLIPSE";
type="Empty";
colorName="ColorBlue";
a=20;
b=20;
id=2;
so add a c in the mission file
or add a trigger
novel rune
No idea if you can just edit the mission file. I somehow doubt that works.
private _area = triggerArea this;
_area set [4, 20];
this setTriggerArea _area;
Do triggers have init boxes? You could paste that there to set the z to 40 meters (2x20).
civic sierra
im a noob at all this, when i set the z before i used set pos command, ill try the set trigger area
yes the trigger has init box
the actual marker does no
not
novel rune
Yeah, markers are for maps and maps are 2 dimensional.
civic sierra
yeah the game mode preexists the 3d editor, the people that made the aas template were experts at this, even said id have a tough time..
teal bison
Hi, some one can help me with this? https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/202462-helpt-to-conditions-in-misson/ Thanks!!
civic sierra
im going to try the set trigger area command se how that goes
modern pulsar
you can set trigger height values in 3den, which is probably better because you get an exact preview of its ceiling
civic sierra
hmm i wasnt aware of that, as long as i can get it out of 3den without a dependacy ill give that a look too thanks π
modern pulsar
at the very least it will give you the correct syntax for height in the SQM. Looking at one I have here you can see the size it set with a,b,c:
{
dataType="Trigger";
position[]={4871.8979,17.271833,14417.569};
class Attributes
{
name="trigger1";
sizeA=65;
sizeB=65;
sizeC=21.315001;
activationBy="WEST";
};
id=5;
type="EmptyDetector";
};```Who the hell thought abc was better than xyz? π€
river nymph
maths
a and b are elliptical dimensions
(-a,a) is the line between the two furthest points and (-b,b) the line between the two nearest points on de ellipse
plucky glade
Doesn't explain the C, though π
novel rune
It's called an ellipsoid or as I call it "smartie shape".
lapis isle
Hey guys! Could you tell me how can I Disable AI not to mount the vehicles?
I think I set waypoint too far from them and now they eneter a vehicle instead of patroling on foot
ember mica
2 things, 1 is it modded, 2 are they in a group?
lapis isle
it is moded with ACE, RHS and they are in a group
and with BCombat
It's uum.. AI boost
ember mica
Ok, and i believe the AI will only go in the vehicle if the squad leader goes in first. So, try taking them out of the squad. (can someone tell me if i'm being stupid or not :D)
prime dome
Take the vehicle out of the group, yes
lapis isle
The vehicle is separated from the group. In fact its 100m away π
prime dome
I think I set waypoint too far from them and now they eneter a vehicle instead of patroling on foot
yes this is how they behave
ah
hmmm
ember mica
Take the AI out of the group?
prime dome
^?
ember mica
That way, they shouldn't follow the group leader?
prime dome
Take the AI out of which group?
lapis isle
If I take out the leader next one will be in command won't it?
ember mica
If you take them ALL out
prime dome
then they're not a group
prime dome
And won't follow the goup waypoint...
prime dome
But yeah, this seems like a mod thing
I've never seen vanilla AI enter a vehicle that's not in the same group
ember mica
Must be the AI booster thingy you were talking about
prime dome
maybe whichever AI mod you're using has some variable that controls this behaviour?
^^
I'm not familiar with AI booster though, so i can't be more specific
lapis isle
Wait guys let me straight things up π
ember mica
Or... maybe run a script that says if the AI is on the (e.g Blufor Side) then it destroys the tyres of the vehicle? (If they get in driver)
lapis isle
I have a squad of 4 guys patroling alongside the airfield I guess 400m to walk
ember mica
You could just lock the vehicle?
lapis isle
opposite to the squad have 2 BTRs (with drivers AI/players) waiting for the group of players
ember mica
And what's the issue? The patrol gets in the BTRs?
lapis isle
yes
ember mica
Lock the BTRs?
lapis isle
It runs all the way through the Airfield, gets to the BTR and than starts to patrol
I can do that but only lock for players. Cant do that Lock for AI π
ember mica
this setVehicleLock "LOCKED";
Wouldn't that work?
Or, you could do this.
this lock 2;
Wont it be locked for everybody?
daring dock
what are we doing?
lapis isle
Il try that thank you π
My Ais are messing Around I dont like what they are doing π
prime dome
BTW
you can lock the vehicle from the editor too
change from default to locked π
daring dock
They want to lock AI but not players
daring dock
so AI don't drive off with your vehicle?
lapis isle
yes
daring dock
[this, 0] remoteExec ["Lock", allPlayers, true];
And not vanilla afaik
daring dock
untested but if I'm smart enough that should unlock on the init for only the players
prime dome
it has global effect though
daring dock
for players
remoteExec targeting allPlayers
is Server a player?
serious question, server isn't a player right?
Also headless clients would probably mess that up
prime dome
No server is not a player, i admittedly misread the remoteExec command π
daring dock
ya got that?@lapis isle
prime dome
saw 0 and interpreted as being executed on the server
lapis isle
Uuum Im confused now π
daring dock
[this, 0] remoteExec ["Lock", allPlayers, true];
do colors make it less confusing?
lapis isle
yes thank you π
lapis isle
Ok so I wrote this in Players init, and taht it?
prime dome
won't unlocking it with any locality unlock the thing globally though?
That looks like you're just running the command for all players
rather, on their clients
and the BTR looks like it's local to the server
daring dock
in the vehicle init
prime dome
eh, maybe i'm misreading the whole thing.
daring dock
because 'this' is reffering to the vehicle
allPlayers is the units that have it unlocked
@prime dome 'running the command for all players' that's the idea fam, everyone but AI
Vehicles are always global
prime dome
What
daring dock
unless createVeihcleLocal
prime dome
That's...interesting.
daring dock
but that's a specific command
prime dome
I thought the driver owned the vehicle
daring dock
negative
prime dome
I did not know.
daring dock
that's only for netcode
Driver sends position data
server returns position to passengers
prime dome
I see
daring dock
The vehicle itself, including it's variable, is global
prime dome
I see
So about the remote exec
You're running
this lock 0 on every client
command changes things globally
So won't it result in being globally unlocked?
That's what's confusing me.
biki says local argument, global effect
river nymph
Global effects > unlocked for all clients and server
lapis isle
Ok Im testing it now
river nymph
Toczer just either disable bCombat
lapis isle
Its not tht simple
river nymph
or find out how to stop it from putting AI in vehicles
lapis isle
This mission of mine is a COOP one
river nymph
I mean it is that simple if you dont want them to board vehicles
You find out why bCombat does it and find out if you can stop it
or remove the mod
prime dome
That's what i was thinking too.
daring dock
I like solving problems instead of circumventing them
river nymph
The problem is a mod / external script influencing the AI and not being able to have a local lock
daring dock
Wiki says locks can be local
prime dome
Aye, you're actually trying to circumvent the issue here π
daring dock
Wat
river nymph
please show me on the wiki where it says there is a lock command with local effects?
youre trying wierd things with locality locking when you should be looking into bCombat instead
maybe it has a variable you can set to stop the behaviour
daring dock
prime dome
it literally says local argument, global effect
daring dock
Well im literally stupid
novel rune
Yeah. Local argument means you have to execute the command on the machine which owns the vehicle or it will fail
daring dock
This is why my name isn't blue