#arma3_scripting | ARMA | Page 595

ebon citrus Jun 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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THAT ^^

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companies want their official discords to stay clean

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so let's keep it that way

warm venture Jun 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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now im getting script restriction 0 after adding in the filters

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REEEEEEEEE

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how does that even make sense

ebon citrus Jun 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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#arma_battleye ?

warm venture Jun 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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the whole point of the filter is so you DONT get blocked out.

ebon citrus Jun 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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it's magic

warm venture Jun 17, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yeah, not battleye filters

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something else

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yeahhh imma just run without be filters cause I cant even join otherwise.

ebon citrus Jun 17, 2020, 11:39 PM

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yay! Can open and close the bag now and the elements are taken care of. Just need to make the logic to add items into the bag and open bags of other players. Image attached below:
https://imgur.com/a/8qTM0ys

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dont mind the titles

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those are fixed already

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Any way I can force a AI out a vechile, they wont get out with any waypoints I give them?

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:24 AM

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moveOut unit;

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@high silo

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Tried that

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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that doesnt work?

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Nope, cos I need to reference the group as the unit doesnt have a variable name

calm bloom Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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hello, guys, have anyone tried to script rotor destruction effect? I have found BIS_fnc_helicopterDamage function that is ingame, but it is using non-existant file "hsim\air_h\data\scripts\main_rotor_destruction.sqf"

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 AM

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_myUnits = group (whateverGroup);
{
moveOut _x;
} forEach _myUnits;

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@high silo

young current Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 AM

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@calm bloom that is take on helicopter function

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nor for Arma 3

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Will try it

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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you have the group set as a variable, correct? if so that should work. It will return all units inside that group and force them out of the vehicle

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Yeah I do, will load it up and test it now 😄

calm bloom Jun 18, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yep, thanks but ive wondered if anyone dug in howto force the effect that is ingame

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Saying Error group: Type Group, expected Object.

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_myUnits = |#|group (team1);
{
moveOut _x;
} forEach _myUnits;

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Here @uncut rapids

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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foreach units team1

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:38 AM

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If I fastrope the AI they get out. Even though the heli is on the ground and the games registed it

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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assuming team1 is a group like one of yesterdays snippets was

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:39 AM

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You would be correct

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Worked!

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Thankyou

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But now they get straight back in after, even if they have waypoint. So will look into that

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:45 AM

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ah yeah i completely forgot to use the units comment in my code i sent LOL sorry about that one

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i literally had the wiki page for the command up and forgot it still LMAO

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Any clue why they might auto get back in? Im thinking about allowGetIn false;

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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as in the AI getting out and automatically switching back to a seat?

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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They all get forced out, then instantly start loading back into the heli

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Even if they have a move waypoint

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:49 AM

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maybe try disembarking the team leader first?

_myUnits = units group (whateverGroup);
moveOut (leader whateverGroup);
{
  if(!leader group == _x) then {
    moveOut _x;
  };
} forEach _myUnits;

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I tried [team1] allowGetIn false; It forced one out but everyone else stayed in

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Will try that 😄

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:50 AM

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maybe lock the helicopter after they disembark?

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idek why they would get back in so I'm just guessing tbh

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:51 AM

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allowGetIn expects an array of units not an array of groups 🤔

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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That just gave me errors expunged, I tried locking it and it didnt work

_myUnits = group (heli1); 
{ 
moveOut _x; 
} foreach units team1;
heli1 lock true;

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:52 AM

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wait so what are you trying to do

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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The helicopter lands, and the AI are unloaded. heli the flys away, but the AI dont listen to waypoints and auto load in when kicked out using that.

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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cause the script I sent would just make the group leader disembark first and then make the rest disembark

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I dont think I have the group variable set, I think I have the leader and the rest just follow him. Atleast thats what the scripts hinting.

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And thats why [team1] allowGetIn false; only kicked one guy out

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 12:59 AM

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so from what i just ran the group leader instructs them to board the vehicle as soon as they get out

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Thats same issue im getting

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 1:01 AM

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_myUnits = units (team1);
moveOut (leader team1);
{
  if(!(leader (group _x) == _x)) then {
    moveOut _x;
  };
} forEach _myUnits;
_myUnits allowGetIn false;

just worked for me

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Yup

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Worked for me too

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 1:01 AM

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just if you want to allow them into vehicles again you have to do _myUnits allowGetIn true;

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Brilliant, idk why he ordered them back in after

uncut rapids Jun 18, 2020, 1:02 AM

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AI makes absolutely zero sense

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makes scripting a nightmare

high silo Jun 18, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Couldn't agree more

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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https://prnt.sc/t1roy3
For some reason it tells me there's missing something in line 5.

this is supposed to show me when a Civilian has been killed.

addMissionEventHandler ["EntityKilled", {
        params["_killed", "_killer"];
}];

        if(isPlayer _killer)then{
            if(_killed (side _unit) == civilian) then {
            
            _killed_Name = "";
            [[format["%1  Killed  %2 ", name player,_killed_Name]]remoteExec["systemChat"]];

            }
        }```

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:30 AM

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that entire if statement is outside of the eventhandler code

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you close the event code on line 3

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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so move all that in between 2 and 3

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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yea. }]; goes after the code you want to execute on the event

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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now it says Line 1 missing )

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addMissionEventHandler ["EntityKilled", {
        params["_killed", "_killer"];
                     
            if(isPlayer _killer)then{
            if(_killed (side _unit) == civilian) then {
            
            _killed_Name = "";
            [[format["%1  Killed  %2 ", name player,_killed_Name]]remoteExec["systemChat"]];

            }
        }
}];```

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:33 AM

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the error shows the position where the issue is

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_killed (side _unit) thats wrong, though it isnt line 1

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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if (!(_building isKindOf "House_F") && !(_building typeOf "Land_BarGate_F") && !(_building typeOf "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F") exitWith {hint localize "STR_ISTR_Bolt_NotNear";};
if (((nearestObject [_pos,"Land_Dome_Big_F"]) == _building || (nearestObject [_pos,_vaultHouse]) == _building) && (west countSide playableUnits < (LIFE_SETTINGS(getNumber,"minimum_cops")))) exitWith {
    hint format [localize "STR_Civ_NotEnoughCops",(LIFE_SETTINGS(getNumber,"minimum_cops"))];
};
if ((typeOf _building) == _vaultHouse && (nearestObject [_pos,"Land_Dome_Big_F"]) getVariable ["locked",true]) exitWith {hint localize "STR_ISTR_Bolt_Exploit"};
if (isNil "life_boltcutter_uses") then {life_boltcutter_uses = 0;};

if(!(typeOf _building == "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F") && !(typeOf _building == "Land_BarGate_F")) then {
    _doors = FETCH_CONFIG2(getNumber,"CfgVehicles",(typeOf _building),"numberOfDoors");
    _door = 0;
    //Find the nearest door
    for "_i" from 1 to _doors do {
        _selPos = _building selectionPosition format ["Door_%1_trigger",_i];
        _worldSpace = _building modelToWorld _selPos;
            if (player distance _worldSpace < 2) exitWith {_door = _i;};
    };
    if (_door isEqualTo 0) exitWith {hint localize "STR_Cop_NotaDoor"}; //Not near a door to be broken into.
    if ((_building getVariable [format ["bis_disabled_Door_%1",_door],0]) isEqualTo 0) exitWith {hint localize "STR_House_Raid_DoorUnlocked"};
} else {
    _building setVariable["boltcut", true];
};

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Does this look fine? It's not working properly.

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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try this @neon crane

addMissionEventHandler ["EntityKilled", {
        params["_killed", "_killer"];
        
        if (isPlayer _killer && {side _killed == civilian}) then {
            [format["%1  Killed  %2 ", name player,name _killed ]]remoteExec["systemChat"];
        };
}];

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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aight

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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@warm venture define "not working properly"

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Alright

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so im trying to make it to where you can use boltcutters on bar gates and concrete gates

outer fjord Jun 18, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Can people in a ragdoll state not be effected by SetVelocityModelSpace?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:38 AM

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@warm venture linter says [1,3]:error:Parenthesis "(" not closed

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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https://prnt.sc/t1rs3q
Okay, but this should show the players name.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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What is the 1,3?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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line 1 column 3

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the first if statement condition has an opening ( but no closing )

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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https://prnt.sc/t1rs3q
Okay, but this should show the players name.
@neon crane And this shows every killed unit, not just civilians

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:43 AM

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so you want format["%1 Killed %2 ",name _killer,name _killed]?

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:44 AM

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it still says the units name, not mine shrug

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:45 AM

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is the unit not your player?

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:45 AM

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MP

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its for my milsim, with other players

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and i want to log if they killed civilians

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:46 AM

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if in MP it will always return profileName

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aka the name of player, not of the unit itself

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:46 AM

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soo uhm

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name profileName?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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no

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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no, name _killer will simply return the same as profileName _killer in MP

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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oh

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how can i get the players name then?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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My stuff still isnt working :/

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 1:47 AM

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name _killer

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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but only when you run the mission in multiplayer

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Oh facepalm
I'm in singleplayer eden

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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and please... have the wiki open on a second screen or with ALT-TAB, and read the descriptions, syntaxes and examples of the commands/functions... it will tell you everything you need to know...

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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well i have the wiki open

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but apparently on the wrong pages

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Guys, If i wanted to make certain doors to be opened by Blufor only ( Police Station ). How can it be done ?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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trigger

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I have all my pd doors open automatically when cops get near and they are holding a keycard.

neon crane Jun 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Okay. I made it like that now, that it would send 2 different messages when either a civilian or a blufor was killed. Though it just replies with Player friendly fired civilian

And Player killed the civilian Blufor

addMissionEventHandler ["EntityKilled", {
        params["_killed", "_killer"];
        
        if (isPlayer _killer && {side _killed == civilian}) then {
            [format["%1  Killed the civilian  %2 ", name player,name _killed ]]remoteExec["systemChat"];
        };
        if (isPlayer _killer && {side _killed == west}) then {
            [format["%1 friendly Fired  %2 ", name _killer,name _killed ]]remoteExec["systemChat"];
        };
}];```

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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What is arma scripted in? Lua or C? @robust hollow

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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sqf?

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or u mean the actual game

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like, engine level?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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yes but isnt sqf lua or c?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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sqf is sqf

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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cant find a sqf validator anywhere

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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for which IDE?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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im just using notepad++

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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https://github.com/LordGolias/sqf

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https://github.com/SkaceKamen/sqflint

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https://github.com/SQFvm/vm (i think?)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:02 AM

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What do these run in?

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what IDE

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or should I just get/use atom

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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the first works in a fair few, the second i use in vscode, the third idk

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i used the first to check ur code

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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3sec search on google: https://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=8680

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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but just on its own, no ide

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i think he might mean for linting

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I don't think there isn't any IDE linting (yet)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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if (isNull _building) exitWith {};
if (!(_building isKindOf "House_F") && !(_building typeOf "Land_BarGate_F") && !(_building typeOf "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F")) exitWith {hint localize "STR_ISTR_Bolt_NotNear";};
if (((nearestObject [_pos,"Land_Dome_Big_F"]) == _building || (nearestObject [_pos,_vaultHouse]) == _building) && (west countSide playableUnits < (LIFE_SETTINGS(getNumber,"minimum_cops")))) exitWith {
    hint format [localize "STR_Civ_NotEnoughCops",(LIFE_SETTINGS(getNumber,"minimum_cops"))];
};
if ((typeOf _building) == _vaultHouse && (nearestObject [_pos,"Land_Dome_Big_F"]) getVariable ["locked",true]) exitWith {hint localize "STR_ISTR_Bolt_Exploit"};
if (isNil "life_boltcutter_uses") then {life_boltcutter_uses = 0;};

if(!(typeOf _building == "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F") && !(typeOf _building == "Land_BarGate_F")) then {
    _doors = FETCH_CONFIG2(getNumber,"CfgVehicles",(typeOf _building),"numberOfDoors");
    _door = 0;
    //Find the nearest door
    for "_i" from 1 to _doors do {
        _selPos = _building selectionPosition format ["Door_%1_trigger",_i];
        _worldSpace = _building modelToWorld _selPos;
            if (player distance _worldSpace < 2) exitWith {_door = _i;};
    };
    if (_door isEqualTo 0) exitWith {hint localize "STR_Cop_NotaDoor"}; //Not near a door to be broken into.
    if ((_building getVariable [format ["bis_disabled_Door_%1",_door],0]) isEqualTo 0) exitWith {hint localize "STR_House_Raid_DoorUnlocked"};
} else {
    _building setVariable["boltcut", true];
};

if ((nearestObject [_pos,"Land_Dome_Big_F"]) == _building || (nearestObject [_pos,_vaultHouse]) == _building) then {
    [[1,2],"STR_ISTR_Bolt_AlertFed",true,[]] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_broadcast",RCLIENT];
} else {
    [0,"STR_ISTR_Bolt_AlertHouse",true,[profileName]] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_broadcast",RCLIENT];
};

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cause theres something wrong in here

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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although SQFvm is extremely powerful (and up-to-date)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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and im not sure what

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and my internet is being horrible rn so its gonna take an hour to download atom 🙄

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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@warm venture Can this be done with an already made map ? E.g Altis

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Thats what im running

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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programming 101: make sure your code is readable... that will make debugging a lot easier

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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This is all stock altis life.

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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[2,57]:error:can't interpret statement (missing ;?): <Variable(_building)> <Keyword(typeOf)> <String("Land_BarGate_F")>
[2,97]:error:can't interpret statement (missing ;?): <Variable(_building)> <Keyword(typeOf)> <String("Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F")>```

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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if you have problems with a life framework, ask questions there...

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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_building typeOf "Land_BarGate_F" --> typeOf _building == "Land_BarGate_F"

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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omg

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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like... 90% of that code is BS for us, and the amount of framework specific stuff is too much for us to debug for you

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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idk how i didnt catch that.

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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script errors should tell you this

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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client side errors?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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yea

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Sorry i really didn't get you. WDYM by "stock" altis life

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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What it comes with.

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thx connor ill try it.

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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aha i see. Thanks for your time buddy

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:08 AM

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talking about the keycard thing?

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I had to make custom scripts for doing that.

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its like 5 lines.

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:09 AM

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And the custom scripts were used on an already placed buildings ?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:10 AM

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No but you could

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if you know the door numbers

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:12 AM

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To make it clear. rn i am designing my map using Mapbuilder. i was working on the police station and i want the Blufor only ( Police ) to have the ability to interact with certain doors. Is this made using the mission or scripting the building it self before finalizing the map in TB ?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:14 AM

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if you mean scrolling and opening I dont think its possible but maybe..

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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yes

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I have scripts setup so it automatically opens when you get near

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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simply lock the door(s) by default, unless a cop gets close to it

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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How can that be done ?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:16 AM

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building1 setVariable["bis_disabled_Door_1",1,true];

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replace the first 1 with the door number

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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aha. So i should place the Police Station in the mission. Not in the map it self. ( To access and script it easily ). Right ?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:17 AM

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in eden editor, put down the building

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like the office building

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then by the doors it will have a door number.

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Yup exactly. I was gonna place them in Mapbuilder and then try to script them. which i think isn't possible

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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by mapbuilder do you mean eden

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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No

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Not sure what Mapbuilder is

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were talking arma 3 right?

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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There is a program used for designing the map. It saves the coordinates and some info of the object you placed on your terrain. After that you export the coordinated etc. as a form of txt file to Terrain Builder

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coordination *

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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I know how to do with eden editor thats all

lyric badge Jun 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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You don't use any other tools ?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:22 AM

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you dont need to for mission editing

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not the same as making a map

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 2:34 AM

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How do you run the linter in atom..?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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https://atom.io/packages/linter-sqf

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 AM

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if (!(_building isKindOf "House_F") && !(typeOf _building == "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F")) exitWith {hint localize "STR_ISTR_Bolt_NotNear";};

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So can anyone think of why this is giving the hint? the building is typeOf "Land_ConcreteWall_01_l_gate_F"

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@robust hollow https://i.gyazo.com/dafac79cf0c1ec06cff713dd8eaee329.png

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getting that with linter for whatever reason.

tiny wadi Jun 18, 2020, 4:05 AM

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When i setup a slider action, similiar to a buttons action in a dialog, do I need the prefix 'on' for the event handler?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I'm trying to make it so you can bolt cut a fence gate

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Its the concrete one with vertical bars. The issue is that when I try to get the cursorTarget, it usually grabs the object behind it because it goes through the bars..

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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@warm venture i dont use atom so cant really help you there. as far as the script goes, add log lines through the file so see what the type of building actually is and what line the script is exiting on and what conditions it isnt satisfying.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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is there a way to fix that..?

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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try cursorObject instead

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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its picking up the pier behind it

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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even when you do it with cursorObject?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Yeah.

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picking up Land_Pier

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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could always check if the player is within x distance of an object with that classname.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Right..r

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but

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I have an idea..

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 6:01 AM

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@robust hollow Epic! it works. Anyway, any idea why this doesnt work? [player,"weed"] remoteExec ["life_fnc_say3D",RANY];

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trying to play a sound from a source to nearby players, and no im not using player in the script, im using an object

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 6:13 AM

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based on that snippet alone, no. most likely causes i can think of are a bad object, incorrect sound class, quiet sound or RANY macro not defined.
u need to play around with it a bit and see what works to isolate what doesnt.

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Is there a way to make hidden selection textures / set object textures visible only for as example blufor? I mean, that only blufor can see this texture edit and opfor cant see the texture change/edit like its original.

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 7:18 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setObjectTexture
setObjectTexture has only a local effect, you could remoteExec that to west and it should work 🙂

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 7:43 AM

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@plain current ok thank you, ill give it a try 👍. To explain for what its needed is, need to do some kind of buildings & units stealth for one faction (so for the oponent it has to be stealth in visual) and the other faction needs to see their own buildings (so they can still walk in these) and units.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 7:53 AM

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[_speaker,"jailbreak"] remoteExec ["life_fnc_say3D",RANY];

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still cant figure out why this isnt playing a sound for everyone

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 7:54 AM

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because L*fe 😄

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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?

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because its arma?

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got it

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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no, life.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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basically nothing works properly in arma

warm hedge Jun 18, 2020, 7:57 AM

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arma3_x64.exe works really fine for me

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 7:59 AM

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i never have any issues i didnt cause myself 🙂

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:00 AM

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cause vaulting through doors/walls is normal eh

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 8:01 AM

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the geometry kinda pushes you out of doing that

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:02 AM

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all I accept are vanilla bug reports 😄

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:07 AM

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so whats the point of setting a building's doors to "locked" if it doesnt actually lock them?

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just lets them be opened no problem

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 8:07 AM

#

think_turtle

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look something similar to this?

house1 setVariable ['bis_disabled_Door_1',1,true]

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

#

No

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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@warm venture are such enterable buildings Vanilla?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Setting the door states to closed

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vanilla buildings added in editor yes.

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military offices

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

#

"setting them to closed" I am assuming this is in eden yes?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Setting them to locked in eden

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not closed

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:26 AM

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I suppose closed & locked

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you can report this kind of issues on the feedback tracker

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with the list of concerned classnames

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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so is there a reason why this wouldnt be working

warm hedge Jun 18, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Nobody knows what l*fe_fnc_say3D so we can say nothing

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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maybe because RANY or RCLIENT are server-side variables only, IDK

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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is life a swear word or something

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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yes

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:30 AM

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you keep starring out the i

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

#

read my message from before, there arent too many things that can go wrong with that

#

https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105462984087728128/723057813164785675

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

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... maybe cause i didnt have #include "..\..\script_macros.hpp" in the file where rclient is defined.

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

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which i indirectly mentioned before 😦

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:31 AM

#

I fixed it in that file

#

but not this one

#

assumed it was already in there but i guess not

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:33 AM

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bad game, bad

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 8:34 AM

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what doors wernt locking on the military office? they are all locked for me.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:35 AM

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None of them locked. They were locked in editor but could just scroll and open them ingame

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:36 AM

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try the game without mods, then come back 🙄
a locked door cannot be opened in-game (without scripting)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:38 AM

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No mods

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no client side mods*

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:39 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 8:44 AM

#

@warm venture are any server side scripts running that could unlock the doors?

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Or amything on the client that could be responcible for it?

#

Because if it works in the editor scenario, but stops working on your l*fe server, then wouldnt that mean that something in the scenario/server is disabling the lock on those doors, no?

#

Yet another reason why you should ask altis l*fe related questions on their special server

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There's maybe someone there who knows about the quirks of the framework

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I can't help but laugh every time I see l*fe

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

yeah would be pretty crazy

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if only they would respond

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

#

RengeWeird

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Idk, make your own framework with cardgames and professionals, then

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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*blackjack and ladies of the night

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Bad word

#

nyansmilebig

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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uh oh

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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let's say it's in the very grey area @high marsh

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

#

whats the best ide for sqf coding/linting

#

cause im getting an error in atom sqf linter

C:\Users\jflee\.atom\packages\linter\lib\linter-registry.js:154 [Linter] Error running SQFlint Error: '~' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
    at ChildProcess.<anonymous> (C:\Users\jflee\.atom\packages\linter-sqf\node_modules\sb-exec\lib\index.js:56:20)
    at ChildProcess.emit (events.js:194:13)
    at maybeClose (internal/child_process.js:998:16)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (internal/child_process.js:403:11)
    at Socket.emit (events.js:194:13)
    at Pipe.<anonymous> (net.js:593:12)

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 9:00 AM

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VSCode is nice

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

atom also has highlighting

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

#

here is a list of useful tools:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Community_Tools

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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yeah but I cant get the linting to work in atom @high marsh

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every time I save it I get that error

brave jungle Jun 18, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

Atom is broken right now haha

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multi cursor is broken too

#

I went back to 1.47

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 9:02 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

cold pebble Jun 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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sublime text ^_^

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 9:05 AM

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^ good too

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pref really

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

#

so if I have a "while" loop, is the code stuck in there until its exited?

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because I want to change the variable thae is being checked by the while after a certain amount of time.

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:27 AM

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the variable is checked every loop

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but the loop won't exit mid-code if the variable changes

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

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the while loop runs till it fails 🤔

while {
   // as long as this returns TRUE
   a < b
} do {
   // execute the following code
   a = a + 1
};

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:28 AM

#

so for instance

#

while{_pd getVariable["jailbreak", false]} do {
  if(!(_pd getVariable["jailbreak"])) exitWith{};
    [_speaker1, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];
    [_speaker2, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];
    uisleep 5.2;
};

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I want this to run, but I want to change "jailbreak" to false after 5 minutes or 120seconds

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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_pd getVariable["jailbreak"] // is incorrect

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and re-checking inside makes no sense

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

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It works fine for me

#

that parts true.

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

#

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getVariable

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Syntax: varspace getVariable [name, defaultValue]

and defaultValue is not optional.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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varspace getVariable name

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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name: String

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Anything or Nothing if the variable doesn't exist

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it works for what im trying to do so im keeping it

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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🤦‍♂️

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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if it aint broke dont fix it.

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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it is broken

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but sure, keep wrong code

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

#

then why does it work as intended?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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it's broken because it obviously doesn't work 🤔

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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yes it does? @exotic flax

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Dude. You come here to get help, get told what you did wrong, and now state "I don't want any help"

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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it works just fine.

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

#

Either you ask for help and accept it, or leave.

#

Your code is wrong.

#

And the if/exitWith is useless.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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yep already removed that

#

lol

#

if (player getVariable "restrained") exitWith {hint localize "STR_NOTF_isrestrained";}; this is part of L*fE and works fine. Its literally how all of the variables are checked in this framework.

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

#

...

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Yes because that code is correct

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and its different than yours

#

Yours is wrong and useless.
That snippet you posted is neither (might be useless, but can't say without context)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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if (!(_unit getVariable ["Escorting",false])) exitWith {}; //He's not being Escorted.

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ok

#

so this whole time yall were talking about the part I didnt have questions about

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:36 AM

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well your question was already answered

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:36 AM

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exitWith does NOT work within a while/do loop
getVariable either needs a string (name of var) or array (name of var AND default)

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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thank you. @exotic flax

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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but if we let you have your mistakes, you'll someday come back with the issues caused by that and waste more time

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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already told you that before though...

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:39 AM

#

then what would be ideal way of exiting the while after 5 minutes

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

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since your while checks for "jailbreak", simply set it to TRUE

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after 5min that is

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

in a different script..

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because it wont work in this one

#

because its stuck in the while until its not true anymore.

#

right?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

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yup

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at least... sort of

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:41 AM

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just seems like a lot of work

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:41 AM

#

you can add another boolean flag

like ```sqf
mustCheck = true;
while { mustCheck && { stuff getVariable ["stuff", false] } } do {

};

// and somewhere else
mustCheck = false;

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:41 AM

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if it was easy everyone could do it 🤣

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

learned that after 5 yrs of java

#

#kms

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 10:45 AM

#

exitWith does NOT work within a while/do loop

oh ._.

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:46 AM

#

?

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:46 AM

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wont exit within while {true} do { } loop

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:46 AM

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yeah we already crossed that line about 10m ago

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

sqf is easy, especially due to the ammount of documentation and support ❤️

#

Not without its quirks, though

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

_blah = 0 spawn {
  while{blahblah} do {
    
  };
};
terminate _blah;

maybe?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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This is only my personal opinion, but you usually want to avoid having a ton of while-loops

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:48 AM

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its..probably fact

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

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In my entire inventory code, there is not a single while-loop. I just despise them having worked in an unthreaded environment once

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

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how do you handle changes in inventory then? Handlers?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Sqf, though, is "threaded"

#

The scheduler will run each task at it's time

#

But this doesnt mean that you should fill the scheduler with while-checks

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

#

would be so much more convenient having everything in one file..

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:50 AM

#

Handlers and actions @high marsh

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Handlers are mostly for selecting elements, actions are responsible for updates

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I'm not sure exactly how handlers work with SQF and their engine functions. But I'm sure it's still running waiting to catch

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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@ebon citrus whats the best way to safe server perfomance in scripts? Like you do?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Less is more

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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would be so much more convenient having everything in one file..
That is just bad programming...

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

#

@high marsh so [] spawn { instead of while

#

?

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

#

No

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM

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@high marsh probably engine-side instead of scheduler

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Atleast i hope so

#

Handlers could also be implemented in a trigger-style

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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But I'm sure it's still running waiting to catch
no

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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how then

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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As in, an action happens and all registered handlers get called

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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event happens, eventhandler gets executed

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

#

since spawn is run async it seems and while is sync

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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and while is sync
no

#

while is a loop, spawn is not

#

they are completely different things

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

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Spawn creates a task in the scheduler

#

The scheduler will run that task once it gets to it

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:53 AM

#

so im basically stuck doing [] remoteExec["l*fe_fnc_pdJailbreakTimer"];

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:54 AM

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From my experience, a while loop will be run once inside the scheduler each time the scheduler returns to the task, as long as the condition is true

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That's...

#

Seems excessive

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:54 AM

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exactly my point

#

would be so much more convenient having everything in one file..
@warm venture

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

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What is fn_pdJailbreakTimer.sqf?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

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the new file I have to make to cancel the while.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

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No...

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:56 AM

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thats..what yall said

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:56 AM

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You dont need to make a whole new function to set one variable 😅

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:56 AM

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would sure hope not.

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but I dont see any other way.

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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depends on the context, and how often you need that function 🤔

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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It looks like not often

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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private _pd = missionNamespace getVariable "kavpd";
_speaker1 = missionNamespace getVariable "pdSpeaker";
_speaker2 = missionNamespace getVariable "pdSpeaker2";

_pd setVariable["jailbreak", true];

while{_pd getVariable["jailbreak", false]} do {
    [_speaker1, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["l*fe_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];
    [_speaker2, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["l*fe_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];

    uisleep 5.4;
};

#

Need it to exit the while after 5 minutes, then not let it run again for 20 minutes

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

#

Logic

#

Im having a hard time getting in my head this whole thing

#

So you want an addition to your script that involves breaking out of a jail?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 10:59 AM

#

This is all it needs to really do... it plays the sound file every 5.4 seconds until the variable is no longer true

#

then it locks the doors

#

or needs to

#

while{_pd getVariable["jailbreak", false]} do {
    [_speaker1, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];
    [_speaker2, "siren", 250, 1] remoteExecCall ["life_fnc_say3D", RCLIENT];

    uisleep 5.4;
};

uisleep 120;
// lock doors

#

thats what it really needs to do

#

but it doesnt work that way

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 11:01 AM

#

I hope you are aware that this is a discussion/support channel, not a "please write my code" channel...
Because I really got the feeling we're writing the next L*fe framework, without getting paid for it 🤔

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:01 AM

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lol..

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i guess its really that difficult to answer a simple question

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dont want to help - dont

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

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dont be toxic...

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

#

if it was easy everyone could do it 🤣
@exotic flax

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

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people are here to help

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

#

ME being toxic?

#

im trying to get help

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

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not to write your code for you

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

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and get nothing but sarcasm

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

#

i do not insinuate that you ARE, i am saying dont go there

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:02 AM

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from ppl with complexes

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

#

the problem is that you dont really know what you want and what you have

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

#

I know exactly what I want

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

#

there is a lot of context involved in Tonic's stuff that needs to be known/explained

#

or you need to take your script OUT of that context to make it understandable

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:04 AM

#

_pd spawn {sleep 60*5; _this setVariable["jailbreak", false]}

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:06 AM

#

so cause spawn is running on _pd, it makes _this reference _pd instead of the file itself

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:06 AM

#

_this is the arguments passed to spawn

#

in this context _this is equal to _pd

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:07 AM

#

Yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:09 AM

#

here's also an example of using params which is useful when you are calling/spawnning/executing something with multiple arguments. Take a look at example 1 on how it works in practise:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/params

#

just a side note

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:10 AM

#

yeah im using params in some of my other stuff

#

thx tho

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:11 AM

#

great

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:11 AM

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format["%1"] thats invalid

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:12 AM

#

oh boy.

#

forget i posted that

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:12 AM

#

Reminds me of ACE slack

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:14 AM

#

private _building = missionNamespace getVariable _buildingName; there.

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:14 AM

#

or rather r/armadev reddit.
with gems like

if (!alive OpforFlgCarrier) then
{
    (_ui displayCtrl 1007) ctrlSettext format ["Dropped"];
}else
    {
        (_ui displayCtrl 1007) ctrlSettext format ["%1",name OpforFlgCarrier];
    };

or

publicVariable "timelimit","ctfscorelimit","CaptureScore","CTFicons","Icon_Distance";

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:14 AM

#

if its wrong why does it work then

#

serious question im wondering

#

thats why i never changed it since last year when I made it. It worked

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

#

it doesn't work ¯_(ツ)_/¯

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

#

so im hallucinating the doors on my building opening/closing

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

#

the format ["%1"] you posted is invalid, it doesn't work

#

but what you posted will fall back to default value, maybe thats what makes it work

#

just one part of your code being wrong and not doing anything, doesn't mean that the rest is also broken

#

your code can be 99% broken, but still have two lines of code that work

#

Doesn't mean that its "not wrong"

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 11:17 AM

#

so is the new one better

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:18 AM

#

well that one line of code doesn't have errors

#

no visible errors

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 11:18 AM

#

please code with "Show Script Errors" flag in the launcher, too

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 11:23 AM

#

please code with "Show Script Errors" flag in the launcher, too
Perhaps add that to "Introduction_to_Arma_Scripting" on the wiki in a large blinking box at the top of the page 🤔

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:24 AM

#

server errors show up in rpt

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

#

client errors also show up in rpt, but 99% of the time the client will also freak out

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

#

yeah, i've rarely had cases where the client wont start throwing gang-signs and black boxes at me

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 11:25 AM

#

and seeing an error directly on screen makes more sense than trying to explain someone to check log files (which they sometimes also disable)

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 11:26 AM

#

and the error message also tells you exaclty WHEN the error occured

#

so that gives a hint

#

you can connect your actions to the error easily

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 11:33 AM

#

Perhaps add that to "Introduction_to_Arma_Scripting" on the wiki in a large blinking box at the top of the page 🤔
well, it's on https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Debugging_Techniques
if people read that

#

I also know that

An error in SQF will purely and simply halt the current script
is not true

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 11:37 AM

#

not for all errors, for some probably

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 11:38 AM

#

for example, an undeclared variable will throw an error but not stop the script
I am bringing the topic in #community_wiki to fix this note, for those who are interested

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 11:59 AM

#

I've noticed that I cannot choose my custom interaction menu options when in a vehicle, but I can when on the ground.

#

I've defined them within config.cpp, like so

class CfgVehicles 
{
    class Man;
    class CAManBase: Man 
    {
        class ACE_SelfActions 
        {
            class skipSong
            {
                displayName = "Skip song";
                condition = "((leader (group player) == player) or !isMultiplayer) and (!(group player getVariable ['XIM_bMusicStopped', false]))";
                exceptions[] = {};
                statement = "[player] call XIM_fncPlayNext";
            };
            class stopMusic
            {
                displayName = "Stop music";
                condition = "((leader (group player) == player) or !isMultiplayer) and (!(group player getVariable ['XIM_bMusicStopped', false]))";
                exceptions[] = {};
                statement = "[] call XIM_fncStopMusic";
            };
            class startMusic
            {
                displayName = "Start music";
                condition = "((leader (group player) == player) or !isMultiplayer) and (group player getVariable ['XIM_bMusicStopped', false])";
                exceptions[] = {};
                statement = "[] call XIM_fncStartMusic";
            };
        };
    };
};

#

This is using ACE's interaction menu framework

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

#

```cpp if you want 😉

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 12:01 PM

#

cheers

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:11 PM

#

whats the difference between setVariable ["bis_disabled_Door_1", 1, true]; and setVariable ["locked", true, true];

robust hollow Jun 18, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

the first hides the action, the second is a life var i think

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

does onPlayerKilled.sqf execute globally, locally to where the player is local or on server?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

locally

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:14 PM

#

which locally?

#

locally where the player is local or on server?

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:14 PM

#

actually

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:14 PM

#

is there any way to make a variable on a player accessible from other players when it is set via myVar = "value";

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:15 PM

#

setVariable

#

and make it public

#

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setVariable

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:15 PM

#

i know setVariable, but the problem is, that the value cannot be changed wtih the simple way anymore (myVar = "new Value";)

#

thats why i m asking

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:15 PM

#

it can be changed with setvariable

#

i dont see the issue

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

#

player addEventHandler ["Killed", {_this call life_fnc_onPlayerKilled}];

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

#

and yes, you can make public variables

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

#

it adds the eventhandler to the player

#

so i think its local to the player on player side..

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

#

@slender schooner publicVariable if you want

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

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the problem i m facing is, that i want to be able to access a players hunger and thirst in Life, and all the code used to change it is written with the simple form

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Lou, can you say is onPlayerKilled.sqf is local to server or player or global?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:17 PM

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local to the killed unit iirc

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:17 PM

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hunger and thirst should all be a local variable on server

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if you make those variables public, you might face a lot of network congestion

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depending on how often you update them

warm venture Jun 18, 2020, 12:17 PM

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w0w i was right about something

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gotta take note of this it wont happen again

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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that's the thing, Lou

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can we add locality of scripts to the event scripts page?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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@warm venture the more you learn, the more you are prone to… "not be wrong" ^^

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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ask questions and learn, yeah

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yea, i figured that out also, guess i ll try to make a callback function that gives the asking admin the needed info hmmm

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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always best

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public variables are something that gets fired at players whenever they update(?)

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and it also means that anyone can edit those values

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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publicVariable needs reinitialisation on each change

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and i suspect that they then overwrite EVERY players hunger/thirst

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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i honestly dont know

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i never used them

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i never had to

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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so its a hivemind hunger/thirst system

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would be funny tho, you drink, everyones thirst goes up

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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youre always best off using the player-objects namespace for that kind of stuff on server

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and update it to client when necessary

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:20 PM

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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like if you have a food-meter, update the position of that meter/animation when it crosses a threshold

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no need to update it constantly

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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ofcourse

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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server will keep track of when it needs to be updated

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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can we add locality of scripts to the event scripts page?
@ebon citrus sure thing! I thought about that last month. all we need is… data 🙂

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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yeah, i guessed so much

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i can try to start documenting them when i get back from lapland

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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i think life checks constantly every second if you crossed a certain threshold and then if you do, updates the values

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:22 PM

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wasteful

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:22 PM

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as i said, i think

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:22 PM

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🤷‍♂️

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i dont do l*fe

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:24 PM

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uiSleep 1;
is, basically a 1 second sleep, no?

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but with the difference that it also work when you dont focus on the game, no?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

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@winter rose initPlayerServer.sqf is executed server side and requires remote execution. Is there an alternative to detect a player-login, or will i just have to write my own script to detect player-spawn. Basically i want to add an EH on server-side to the player when they are loaded (controlling a unit)

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so is there an alternative/workaround to initPlayerServer.sqf that doesnt involve remoteExec?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:26 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers/addMissionEventHandler#PlayerConnected ?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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perfect

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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stahp ninja'ing meeeh 😄

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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just what i was looking for

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 12:27 PM

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~~that moment when you want to click the link, and someone sends a message, so you instead click the emote~~

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:28 PM

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you may click the emote as well if you'd like 😉

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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@ebon citrus note that you won't have the player unit, since it's on connection

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:30 PM

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@winter rose https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_getUnitByUid

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solves the problem

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i'll jsut spawn a task that waitsUntil that is a unit

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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yep (or the player disconnects)

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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yeah, that one aswell

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need to garbage-collect

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almost forgot about that one and wouldve had a memory-leak

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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a tiny rare one, but unfortunately one nonetheless

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:32 PM

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i did my garbage collection btw on the groundweaponholders

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easier than assumed

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

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although wouldn't an EH attached to a player be required to be on the client?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@modern adder I think in a vehicle, you get the vehicles self actions instead of the Man's.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:33 PM

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might need some edge-case logic still, but the main stuff is easy

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@exotic flax MP EH's https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Multiplayer_Event_Handlers

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then jsut check if the locality is server

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MPKilled, if it works, does just what i need it to

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MPHit is also great, as i can manage health server-side

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fill me in with objections, please

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but MPKilled is what im eyeballing for now

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btw, what's up with not being able to open backpacks of dead units?

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i know it can be done through the default arma 3 inventory

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but as it stands, i need to add that option to each killed unit with a backpack as an action

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and when/if the backpack is removed, remove the action on all clients

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pain...

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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it's because the unit itself doesn't have any inventory when dead, however there is a placeholder item placed "under" the body which gets accessed

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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really? 🤔 I thought bodies became "crates"

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:41 PM

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im sure they do

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because they have primary weapons etc.

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you cant set a primary weapon for a vehicle*

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can you?

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idk, but the item blops in their hands nicely

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same with backpacks

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

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in Zeus I always see the dead body and a placeholder "crate" which has an inventory (could be primary weapon only though, although I always thought its the full inventory)

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:42 PM

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and i need to handle the unit as a unit and not as vehicle inventory

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it's primary

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it gets dropped into a simulated weapon holder

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you can pick up the weapon and add it back to the unit's inventory aswell

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if you set it as the unit's primary, it will float in the air if the unit is ragdolled

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:43 PM

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although using getLoadout on a dead unit still works 🤔

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:43 PM

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sure does

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im using it

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and im lovin' it

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I hate that function 🤣

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:44 PM

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it's a mess of arrays

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but meh

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it works

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 12:50 PM

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Hmm, ok. How would I add the interaction to the vehicle as well then?

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I mean since it's always in the same order you can nit pick what you want

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 12:53 PM

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also add self interact for car

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or maybe there's something wrong with your condition?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@high marsh which is an amazing feature of getLoadout

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but some of the nesting is weird

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and i wish sqf had hashmaps/dictionaries

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@modern adder do the options show up, but can't execute them, or do they simply don't show up?

high marsh Jun 18, 2020, 12:57 PM

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the nested ones being mag lists?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:00 PM

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the loadout array is pretty complex: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Unit_Loadout_Array

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I have a function to handle the array for me

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🤓

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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How dare you

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Tough l*fe

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😎

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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I have macro's to quickly generate full loadouts 😛

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Don't show at all

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How do I add a self interact for the car too? What would it look like in a config.cpp?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Self (Type 1 / ACE_SelfActions) Something the user would do to themselves or to their vehicle (eg. Put in ear plugs / Check mounted Static Weapon’s ammo)

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although you might want to check the documentation regarding the condition and statement; since player might not be available

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The simplest action is just a condition and statement. The code to these are passed [_target, _player, _actionParams]. _player is ace_player; _target is the object being interacted with; and the 3rd argument is the optional action parameters (default []).

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Oh, so it's possible in the vehicle player isn't available and that's why it isn't working?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I believe the condition is triggered by the vehicle, and therefor there's no local player

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I see

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That would make a lot of sense

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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if i now want to execute a function on a player and receive a callback, how would i do that?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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however using _player is should return "you" as a player

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Alright, cheers

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_return = [] call fncYourFunction;```

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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i mean, yea, thats the way you do it locally, but i want to do it remotely

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Of course, the function must actually return a value, else _return will just be code

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Oh, I don't think you can

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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responseFnc = {
    name player;
};

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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But our solution to that was to use publicvariableserver

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:10 PM

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like this, i want to execute this on a player, and get his name

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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You send the variable via publicvariable server, then set up a public variable event handler

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Event handler will recieve the broadcasted variable

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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remoteExec 🤔

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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I don't think remoteExec can return a value

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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does remoteExec give back a value to the one executing the remoteexec?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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public variable also can't

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does remoteExec give back a value to the one executing the remoteexec?
if you think about it, thats not possible

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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i tried that, but it didnt want to give me the name

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Of course public variable can

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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you can remoteExec the value back

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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That's the very purpose of it

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To send a variable

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Of course public variable can
no it can't.

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publicVariable is one way, just as remoteExec

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you can do a one-way message back to original sender. With remoteExec or a PVEH

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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you could put something in missionNamespace (request), catch that on server, do something, put result in missionNamespace (response), catch that on client

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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spleens_imgonnakillyourfamily

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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remoteExec has remoteExecutedOwner

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which has the clientID of the sender, so you can directly reply back to them

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Or send it directly to the server in case there are multiple clients also doing the same thing

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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Arma-IPC is born 🤣

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:13 PM

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via publicvariableserver

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:14 PM

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my brain is just like spleens_imgonnakillyourfamily right now

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so, the remoteExec gives the remote player the id of the one who sent the remoteExec to them, right?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Or send it directly to the server in case there are multiple clients also doing the same thing
yes
via publicvariableserver
no. With what you said above multiple clients would overwrite eachothers variables.

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but remoteExec would be completely safe

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and remoteExec was built to replace that, so just use it.

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Shouldn't do

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Not with an event handler

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Won't they all run in seperate threads?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Won't they all run in seperate threads?
There is only one thread

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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at this point, remote exec would be my safest bet, as i tried so many things before

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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Sorry, I meant different scopes

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:16 PM

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the public variable is one variable that is set on the server and broadcasted to every player

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so, editing it, edits it for every player, ofcourse only as soon as it is broadcasted again via publicVariable

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Here this is what I use

{
    str [name player, diag_fps] remoteExec ["systemChat", remoteExecutedOwner];
} remoteExec ["call", otherPlayerName];

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send request to a player, and he replies back by systemChat'ing the reply to my chat

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and broadcasted to every player
you can use publicVariableClient, but for that you need to know which client it came from

modern adder Jun 18, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Which you can have the client send

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:18 PM

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but why, if remoteExec has it integrated

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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okay, so, trying to understand this code:
on line 2 it calls the function remoteExec which calls systemchat on the person that called it on the remote player with the parameters "name player" and "diag_fps"

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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with the parameters "name player" and "diag_fps"
no

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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systemchat in this case is a function that accepts those two parameters, right?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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with the parameter "[playername, 2312]"

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systemchat in this case is a function that accepts those two parameters, right?
no systemChat accepts one parameter, a string

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:19 PM

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with the parameter "[playername, 2312]"
yea, thats what i meant

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oh, i see

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and what is that diag_fps for then?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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grabs the fps

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the above script will log the target players fps, in MY chat

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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but isnt that useless then if systemchat only accepts one parameter?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:20 PM

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what?

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no?

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the parameter is a single string

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with the parameter "[playername, 2312]"

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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no wait, i think i missunderstand a bit the code there

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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str [name player, diag_fps]

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see str

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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so the str in front makes it a concatenated string

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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it converts the array to a string

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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i see

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:21 PM

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without the concatenated

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:22 PM

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now it makes sense

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this is gonna be hell to be programmed into my admintool

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catPOLITE

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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not at all

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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but, now i finally have a way to do it

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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remoteExec is rather simple as soon as you can get your head around it

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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well, i need to write a function for the displaying the info in it that it gets

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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it's the BE filters and CfgRemoteExec that's nice

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:23 PM

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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you familiar with controls and dialogs?

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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i hope that i can remoteExec my functions in Life just like that, without having to open an exploitable point

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yea, a bit

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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yeah, no

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no way

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:24 PM

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gonna have to look closer into the remoteExec and CfgRemoteExec

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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it's a lot of work to make your code unexploitable with remoteExec

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that's why you avoid it as much as possible

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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well, I avoid it

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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tbf, i dont really care a lot about hackers

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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up to you

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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if i spot one, i ban him

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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then i suggest whitelisting your server

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:25 PM

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nah

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:26 PM

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you wont keep a dedicated scripter/hacker out by banning them

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:26 PM

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i mean, if you look around a bit, and with the use of my now being created admintool, i ll see if someone cheats in no time

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mexShrug

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:26 PM

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or... you dont

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i dont mean to discredit you

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but youre talking about people who somehow dedicate their time to being essentially a bully

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some of thema re very good at it

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:27 PM

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if someone really has so much boredom to cheat on our server, then meh

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i know

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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but that's enough of those people

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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but most of them are just some children that bought a 500€ script from some shady site, and cry when you ban them

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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🤷‍♂️

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:29 PM

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anyways, thanks for the help

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TohruThumbsUp

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i love the arma community for this

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 1:30 PM

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back to running bought scripts on random servers 😈

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:30 PM

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oof

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 1:31 PM

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(there is BIS_fnc_getServerVariable too)

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:32 PM

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thats also maybe a solution, but i would need something that basically instantly gives me the answer back

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and cant be overwritten by another admin doing the same thing at the same time with another player

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but i ll keep that in mind if i ever need it

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TohruThumbsUp

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 1:34 PM

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and cant be overwritten by another admin doing the same thing at the same time with another player
remoteExec :3

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TFAR uses the remoteExec scheme above to get unique ID's for players radios

exotic tinsel Jun 18, 2020, 1:36 PM

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is there a full proof way to prevent player and ai callouts in group chat? if so can some one point me to some info.

surreal peak Jun 18, 2020, 1:46 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/enableSentences

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@exotic tinsel

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 1:49 PM

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@still forum thank you a thousand times, i now am able to get variables from other players

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NadeshikoYes

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finally

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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is possible to somehow optimize mission.sqm (playeable units)?

warm hedge Jun 18, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Optimize at what?

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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when i disable simulation on them - fps 60.
When enable - 30

exotic tinsel Jun 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working. I have this in the initPlayerLocal.sqf in a desperate attempt to turn them off. I also have in the server profile autoReport = 0; They still to happen from time to time. its odd.

player disableAI "AUTOTARGET";
0 fadeRadio 0;
enableRadio false;
enableSentences false;

surreal peak Jun 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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dont spawn ai in until they are needed is one optimisation

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mission_Optimisation Give this a read

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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is possible to somehow enable simulation when player loaded?

warm hedge Jun 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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In Multiplayer?

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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surreal peak Jun 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Dynamic_Simulation possibly (Terrano)

warm hedge Jun 18, 2020, 1:53 PM

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You meaning I'm true?

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@surreal peak i tryed this, but don't changed anything

surreal peak Jun 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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did u give my first link a read?

dusky pier Jun 18, 2020, 1:54 PM

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reading 🙂

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:12 PM

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hi

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:13 PM

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how do i make the ai stay in different positions if they are in the same squad

to keep units at their spot, you can use

{ doStop _x } forEach units _myGroup;

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:14 PM

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where do i enter that

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:14 PM

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that, or "simply" doStop this in their init field, only if this is not an MP mission

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:14 PM

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where do i enter that though?

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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@tough abyss doubleclick to the soldier, and write in the Init line

doStop this

As Lou Montana told, if its not a MultiPlayer Mission

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:16 PM

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its a scenario mission

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:17 PM

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never to be multiplayer?

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:17 PM

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do i have to play mp?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I ask because using init fields is not a good thing for MP

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Ok

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:18 PM

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if it is and only will be a single player mission, use the init field

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 2:28 PM

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is there a command that i can use in script to know how much is the server under "load"?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:29 PM

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maybe diag_fps

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 2:30 PM

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doesn't it only print the FPS of the game? i think the server does not have any fps in it?

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i mean it doesn't have anything but a console

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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#monitor ?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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^

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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you can use that in scripts?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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server has fps

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/serverCommand @flat elbow

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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monitor won't let the script know how the fps are

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monitor only prints to chat

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 2:33 PM

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basically my idea is to know how much the server and each client is under "pressure" so on big PvE maps i can hand-off the AI elaboration to the clients and free up the server

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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more pressure -> lower fps

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 2:35 PM

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You could take a look at how Liberation is handling that ;)
https://github.com/KillahPotatoes/KP-Liberation/blob/master/Missionframework/scripts/shared/diagnostics.sqf

It logs the FPS (and other stuff) on the server for both the server and clients

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 2:35 PM

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is there also a way that you know of, to know the "connection quality" of the clients? I think if the client have high ping it would make the whole server desync right?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I think if the client have high ping it would make the whole server desync right?
no

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there is a server.cfg entry to auto kick on bad ping

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Howdy

tame portal Jun 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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🤠

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 2:52 PM

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@flat elbow take a look at headless clients

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 2:54 PM

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okay, i m back with another issue

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i m feeling more and more like I AM the issue

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When i try to execute

{  
    str [life_hunger] remoteExec ["systemChat", remoteExecutedOwner];  
} remoteExec ["call", civ_1];

the RPT log shows me this error
2020/06/18, 16:54:26 Scripting command 'call' is not allowed to be remotely executed

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the thing is, i actually allow everyone to use call in the cfgRemoteExec.hpp
F(call,ANYONE)

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am i doing something wrong here?

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:57 PM

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so many to list!

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[str life_hunger] remoteExec ["systemChat", civ_1]; // why not that?

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 2:58 PM

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this shows your life_hunger to the other player

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the code itself works, but there is something that says that i m not allowed to use call remotely

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 2:59 PM

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it seems a conf issue yes

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:02 PM

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yeah something bad with CfgRemoteExec

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maybe "BIS_fnc_call" works

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instead of "call"

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:05 PM

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class CfgRemoteExec {
   class Commands {
      mode = 2; // set to 1 to whitelist only
      class call { allowedTargets = 0; }
   };
   class Functions {
      mode = 2; // set to 1 to whitelist only
      class BIS_fnc_call { allowedTargets = 0; }
   }
};

This should allow both

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:09 PM

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you know what

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i effing hate myself now

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not even morphine can help me anymore

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spleens_imgonnakillyourfamily

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the problem is, that i put the call allowing into the functions part

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stupid question now, if i use command that isnt whitelisted in the remoteexec, but i whitelist the function, will it still work?

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like, i use the "call" in a function that is actually allowed

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will it work or not?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:12 PM

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, if i use command that isnt whitelisted in the remoteexec, but i whitelist the function, will it still work?
if you remoteExec the function yes

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Thanks, @still forum & @exotic flax, I had a genuine good laugh 😂

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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emote spam, but in a supportive way 😉

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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so, if it whitelist this function without whitelisting the "call"

function1 = {
    { 
        str [life_hunger] remoteExec ["systemChat", remoteExecutedOwner]; 
    } remoteExec ["call", test1]; 
};

this should work?

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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no, you need to whitelist the functions/commands you want to remoteExec

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:14 PM

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~~very supportive SadOkayCat ~~

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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so in that example systemChat and call

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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i see

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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you are still remoteExec'ing "call" which is blocked
you can remoteExec "function1" tho

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but function1 needs to exist on the target

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:15 PM

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i see i see

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good to know

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so i basically have to open a security hole on that point

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hmmm

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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if you make your own script function, and whitelist that, no

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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guess i ll find a workaround to that sometime

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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And embed it in a mod

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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thats what i was thinking about right now

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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And have a key for that lod

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Mod*

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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well, euh......

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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or put in mission file ¯_(ツ)_/¯

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Own function -> in a mod -> signed

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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i think thats a bit too high for me tbh

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Is pretty much the safest

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:18 PM

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its a bit overkill tho

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Mission-file security is dubious

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You'll have to mess around with BE filters then

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:19 PM

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Be filters are always good to have for open missions

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But tedious to configure

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:20 PM

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i know

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i looked briefly over it and was amazed at how much stuff you can do, but taken aback by how much stuff you can do

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Yeah

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It's good ro focus on them once your mission is done

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:22 PM

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yea

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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And if security is actually a concern

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If youre whitelisted etc. It might not be worth it

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If you trust your players

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:23 PM

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the server will be open later

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no whitelist

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:24 PM

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What are you even making?

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:24 PM

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we dont have a playerbase yet, so that would be rather useless

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tanoa life

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mostly to train myself in scripting

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but also for the fun at working on it

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:24 PM

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😑

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Not the best place to start

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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i know, its quite badly written, but i just like the gamemode a lot

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Not that

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I mean youre taking in a lot at once, things you dont yet understand and you have to know and youll just learn bad practises

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i know i know

rancid basalt Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Start with Hello World, lol.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Ehhh

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Yeah

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Start with basic stuff

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i NEVER EVER made a hello world script

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Singleplayer missions

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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like, never

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Then addons

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Then multiplayer stuff

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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hint format["%1 %2", "Hello", "World"];

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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🤮

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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i know how hello world scripts work, but i dont want to ever make one

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Arrogance

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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nah

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Pride is one of the 7 sins, you know

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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i make scripts that show different text than hello world

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mexShrug

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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My favorites are: "yes", "hello" and "ielhbefphnrjdufkkw"

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Lorem ipsum is also a solid one

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:28 PM

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my favorite is "bruh"

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Different generations, i guess

rancid basalt Jun 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Hello world is usually the first few lines of code you try when first learning a new language. In usual programming, it teaches variables as well as input/output. For Arma, it was just a joke, lol

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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systemChat > hint

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Fight me in a way which does not involve flaming ir trolling/toxicity and does not display explicit violence or gore

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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why should i flame you?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I said dont flame

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:30 PM

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i think the same

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Anyways, im just used to using systemChat as a debug tool

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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*fight

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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To know where the code is running

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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i sometimes use systemchat and sometimes hint

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BUT

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Where it's entering

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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i prefer systemchat tho

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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And peint out some values along the way

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If the text is too long copyToClipboard does the job

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:32 PM

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if (alive player && (player getVariable "state") isEqualTo "toxic") then {
   player call BIS_fnc_🔨 ;
};

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:33 PM

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IT WORKS

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:33 PM

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thats syntax error tho

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if (alive player && (player getVariable "state") isEqualTo "toxic") then {
   player call (missionNamespace getVariable "BIS_fnc_🔨");
};

you want that

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:34 PM

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if(alive player && (player getVariable "state") isEqualTo "toxic")then
{
   player call (missionNamespace getVariable "BIS_fnc_🔨");
};```
*fixed

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:34 PM

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programming languages without emoji support is soooo 2001...

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:34 PM

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@ebon citrus yea i can use HC but my idea was to leverage user's computational power and not a HC, that's where my concerns come from

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:35 PM

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🤔 ( ✝️ @exotic flax ) 👉 🔨 @exotic flax

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:36 PM

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if (dead) then hammer?

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Thonk

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:36 PM

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it is not 100% clear to me what happens when you handoff the AI to a client, do the server hang waiting for data to be processed by the client? how much bandwidth does it take? would ping spikes make everyone desync? if the client disconnects, what happens to the AI? etc.

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:38 PM

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do the server hang waiting for data to be processed by the client?
no
how much bandwidth does it take?
some
would ping spikes make everyone desync?
The AI would look like it lags
if the client disconnects, what happens to the AI?
moved back to server
etc.
gub.

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:38 PM

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🤔 🚫 ✝️ 👨 👉 🔨 👨 👈 🔨 🐵

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:39 PM

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thanks for the insight dedmen, so i guess i should trash the idea of a distrubited AI?

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without a way to know how well is the connection of the client, i can't prevent the AI from lagging

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:39 PM

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if (dead) then hammer?
@slender schooner 🔨 == banhammer

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remoteExecCall-Loop meowtrash

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 3:40 PM

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so i guess i should trash the idea of a distrubited AI?
huh? no. why? its good

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i can't prevent the AI from lagging
yeah well... thats rare tho

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Send a msg to the client, he sends the answer back -> ~Ping 😂

slender schooner Jun 18, 2020, 3:41 PM

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sadPoliteCat

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:43 PM

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my idea was to weight the FPS of every client and then remove the ones that have either a high ping or are desynched or have too narrow bandwidth but for what i understood i don't have a way to know the latter part

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so if for example one client starts to desync, or his ping increase, i can take the control of the AI back and distribute it to other clients

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I wasn't fully kidding before, Fluffy

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:45 PM

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mmh yea i can use remotexec to see how long it takes to get the message back, but that would not tell me if someone is desynching or not

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:45 PM

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send remoteExecCall from Server, note time, wait for answer from Client, check timediff.

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Desync is another topic

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Desync was in OFP times a big problem tbh 😂

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Yeps

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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desync is still a problem

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whenever server is lagging

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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i see the server desynching even when i play it now lol

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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But, tbf... the internet was worse back then.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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⤴️

winter rose Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I remember playing with 800ms on 56k 👴

carmine sand Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Ye you shot him and he was teleporting and you were dead 😂

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:46 PM

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but these days the spread is bigger

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i can have 1000/1000 and my friend will have 12mbs

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Does getDammage work if I am trying to get a unit's ACE damage?

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Dual ISDN @winter rose - BUT: I had the best ping, just my downloads 🦆 ed hard

tough abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Or does it only work with vanilla arma?

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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do you remember the cars going straight out of the road and then gets teleported back in another position while you were on the turret?

jade abyss Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Of course

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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still a thing

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desync is not gone

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you cant make it "gone"

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it's jsut... better

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with ebtter internet standards

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but if the driver is lagging/desynced, the car will go wild

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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now it happens rarely to that level

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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better internet

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better servers

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better pc's

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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better engine

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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better game-engine

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:49 PM

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i remember my PC on his knees when i used A2OA

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:49 PM

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although; new engine, more stuff to send around, more data used, same problems as before 🤣

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:49 PM

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and it was the most powerful PC money can buy back then

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:49 PM

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less data in relation

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:50 PM

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IF all players would have better internet, which isn't the case

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 3:50 PM

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If you have a decent spec'd server and don't rape the network with setvar/pubvar/remexec, desync is quite rare even with +150 players

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yeah

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we had an event just on tuesday and it went just fine even on my dev-server

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:52 PM

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well for the ping my idea is to send a remotexec setvar command to the clients that will contain the current tick and the remotexec will set on the player a variable as an array with 1st element the time it received and 2nd element the time it's wrinting the info and then the server will get that info and subtract the two to get an idea about how long it takes for the client

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 3:53 PM

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The biggest problem really is mod makers not caring about the network traffic or how many script threads they generate. Many do network calls every time you get in/out of vehicles and spawn a thread for every vehicle. When you have 100s of vehicles your server is gonna start lagging quite quickly. Vanilla servers can handle +100 players easily without HC.

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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i thought the AI was the biggest performance wreck for a server?

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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send a timestamp to the client from the server

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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That as well

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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when you receive the timestamp compare it to current timestamp

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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You could probably read the ping through rcon or memory

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 3:55 PM

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that's your ping

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well, ping for remoteexec

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opr the method youre using

exotic flax Jun 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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AI is killing CPU, and therefor server FPS
public variables are killing network traffic

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:56 PM

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i can merge the two things, as if the client is overloaded, the remotexec will take more time too, maybe

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ie if i spawn it, i can also see how busy the scheduler is

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 3:58 PM

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You could try pubVar'ing the serverTime and compare compare the sent time to the arrival time, then you only need to send stuff 1-way instead of 2

flat elbow Jun 18, 2020, 3:59 PM

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yes but that would introduce another issue, that i have to send the pubvar to all the players at the same time

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which i think is a bandwidth spike

plain current Jun 18, 2020, 4:01 PM

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You could use publicVariableClient for sending to individual client or publicVariableServer for sending to server, you could also use setVariable or remoteExec, i just used pubVar as an example

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 4:04 PM

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what will backpack _object return if _object has no backpack?

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answer: empty string

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also

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i figured out my backpack issue

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i dont need to delete the action when i can just add this to the condition field ((backpack _originalTarget) !='')

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and with this, i dont even need to detect when the unit dies: ((backpack _originalTarget) !='') && (!alive _originalTarget)

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so no need for event handlers or remoteExec

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weSmart

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here's the whole script to add the "open backpack" action back to a unit. Just call it in the unit's init-field:

params["_unit"];

_classname = backpack _unit;
_backpackName = getText(configFile >> (_classname call Nca_fnc_getConfig) >> _className >> "displayName");

_unit addAction
[
    format ["Open %1",_backpackName],    // title
    {
        params ["_target", "_caller", "_actionId", "_arguments"]; // script
        _caller action ["gear", unitBackpack _target];
    },
    nil,        // arguments
    1.5,        // priority
    true,        // showWindow
    false,        //hideonuse
    "",            // shortcut
    "((backpack _originalTarget) !='') && (!alive _originalTarget)",     // condition
    2.95,            // radius
    false,        // unconscious
    "",            // selection
    ""            // memoryPoint
];```

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@still forum anything you think could be improved?

still forum Jun 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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nu

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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nice

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it's far simpler than what i was expecting

hollow thistle Jun 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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use private _var

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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does it change anything important?

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isnt _ basically private?

hollow thistle Jun 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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no, good practice.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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never done it if i dont need to init a variable before use in another namespace

hollow thistle Jun 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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isnt _ basically private?
not exaclty, you can still overwrite variables from upper scope.

ebon citrus Jun 18, 2020, 4:22 PM

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accidentally?