#arma3_scripting | ARMA | Page 408

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:42 AM

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oh no I dont wana bother them

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:42 AM

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I don't think actions work on disabled things

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:42 AM

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fuccc

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sleep maybe? like

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this disableSimulation true;
sleep 4;
this disableSimulation false;

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:47 AM

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That would work yeah

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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oh boi

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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But the vehicle shouldn't move

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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can u set a velocity to a obj that has no simulation

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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as the simulation is what moves the object along it's velocity

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So yes you can. But it won't move

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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foiled again

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:48 AM

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I have an idea.

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Lemme think

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:49 AM

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ears open

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:49 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/createSimpleObject I don't know if they always have collision

createSimpleObject

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They have no physx.. But I don't think you can drive through it.. But you could still try

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:50 AM

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oh I c,it woulnd thave phytx

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:51 AM

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My hope was that they maybe also have no collision.. But from reading the wiki it looks like they have

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:52 AM

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doesnt hurt to try I suppose

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so why does it work for infantry tho? dont they have phyx?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:52 AM

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true

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I guess ragdoll's have. But alive and moveable units don't

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 8:54 AM

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createSimpleObject is just a GEOM muppet. It doesn't really has a namespace. Usually used for "outlands" where no one touches but sees it.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:55 AM

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hmm would hard would it be to take a existing solid object and make it into a static object?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:55 AM

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yeah. But GEOM includes collision. Which is the problem

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simple you mean?

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_replaceWithSimpleObject

BIS fnc replaceWithSimpleObject

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 8:56 AM

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But don't use it in MP much

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Use with caution as this technique is not very clean - should not be used for many objects and definitely not in MP games.```

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^^ rip

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 8:56 AM

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What I can say about this notice

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:56 AM

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You don't need MP to try if it works

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if it does work getting it to MP is not the problem

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 8:57 AM

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is on my results 47/50 objects were created normally, while 3 of them might just disappear or having wrong state (dirAndUp etc)

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Thats what the notice about

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:57 AM

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alright ima try this out,if it fails ill just crie as usual

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 8:57 AM

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Just for the case if you are not going to use it for 1000+ objects, but 1-3 = fine.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:58 AM

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prob gona be 1-4 object maybe,our mission maker just asked me to find a way XD

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well head zeus operator

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well

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it makes the object a staitc object but

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cant add it zeus and

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cant walk through it

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foiled again

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this is harder then I thought

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:08 AM

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@edgy dune As been told this is just a GEOM muppet. Object doesn't have a namespace. It has only one state via "I do exist". It cant recieve setVariable, netiher EVH.

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@edgy dune This results in that this object only collide with others. End.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 AM

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I c

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:33 AM

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what r u trying to do @edgy dune ?

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Make units walk through objects?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:34 AM

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and vehicles

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u know how in star wars hangers have sheilds? well someone iin my unit has a "shield object" a transperent blue object basicly. Wat id like to do is have that object be so that ppl and vics can go through ,basicly like a static object

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:34 AM

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🤔

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I don't really know, but I think I get it

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disablecollision

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:36 AM

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No

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Vehicles are physx. No work

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we tried a lot already

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Wait

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@edgy dune Did you try disabling the collision of the shield object? Instead of vehicles and units?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 AM

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I can cursorObject disableCollisionWith player and walk through houses, cars, placed objects

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I don't see how this would not work

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Do you read what I write?

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Vehicles != player unit

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 AM

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hmm

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 AM

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As I said we tried that already. And as I also said vehicles are physx and don't work

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 AM

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Bad workaround actually, it is better to just destroy the GEOM LOD of the object, which will make it passable

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:38 AM

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But I don't think we tried disabling the collision of the "shield" itself

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Yeah. That was what I would do. Disable GEO with a animation. But as he is using a BI model that isn't an option

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:39 AM

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Just a create your own p3d - best solution for desired "transparency"

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As disableCollisionWith has EL. If this object is not local to current PC, you'll have to send this to JIP.

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To all of the players ofc

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Oh I dont have access to the sheild obj,all I k is that

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its just pretty much a thin vr block

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:40 AM

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Did you read what I wrote above?

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Disable collision of the shield

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instead of vehicles and units

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 AM

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oh yea thats wat I was responding to,I dont have access to it

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 AM

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attach the SHIELD to something

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https://i.imgur.com/DRajZxx.png

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attaching a car to a car causes the car not to collide with cars

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Ah.. Thought disableCollision can generally disable. But it can only disable between two objects

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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oh attaching

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Yeah! AttachTo disables collision! That's awesome

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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lemme ty that

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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@edgy dune If your shield is created via mission.sqm, i'd rather do disableCollisionWith in init-line.

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@still forum Bad idea to use attachTo

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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why?

indigo snow Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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If its a custom object, why not modify the object itself

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Why is the only viable probably working way a bad idea?

indigo snow Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Just disable the collision LOD?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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How?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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What command?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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@still forum read my post about mission.sqm

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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We already know disableCollisionWith won't work

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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^

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:43 AM

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@still forum attachTo damages performance alot more than just JIP packet, believe me

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:44 AM

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For a static object that never moves?

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Out of which you have at most a dozen in the mission

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:46 AM

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I highly doubt it's worse than something else

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Whatever, as i told: If the object is accesible via mission.sqm - just make disableCollisionWith in init-line of the object

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No strings attached 😄

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Yes

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But

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No matter where you use the command

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it acts the same way

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Also using init line is cancer

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Yes? Ofcause you can use something that doesn't work. But how does that change the situation that it doesn't work?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Object created via createVehicle on server machine will have no effect on all PCs, because it is EL

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Thats why i stated mission.sqm

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:48 AM

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🤦

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:48 AM

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@still forum I use it alot, haven't seen its not working

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Otherwise it would be stated somewhere on Wiki that it doesn't work, ain't it?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Dude. We just tried. It doesn't work. And wiki also says it doesn't work.

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In a Big yellow warning box with a big yellow exclamation mark

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Object created via createVehicle on server machine will have no effect on all PCs, because it is EL That's wrong

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createVehicle is global.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Command has to be executed where objects are local, and as long as they don't change locality, the effect of this command will be global.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:49 AM

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oh shit it works

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:49 AM

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Where does it say its not working?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:49 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableCollisionWith

disableCollisionWith

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This command doesn't disable collision between PhysX objects.

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I thought it was in the warning box.. apparently it's right above it

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Maybe we should make the non physx hingy also a big yellow box?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:50 AM

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@unborn ether YOu can't drive through a object with a vehicle, but you can run through it with a unit

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:50 AM

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@edgy dune woop woop

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Why would you create a PhysX object with which you want to have no collision? 😄

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:50 AM

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OH LOL IT DOENST WORK WITH INFANTRY

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but with vics only

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:51 AM

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@unborn ether Vehicles are physx.

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@edgy dune disableCollision then for units?

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:51 AM

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yes

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two worlds combine

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Nice, problem solved 😄

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 AM

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done

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Why would you disable collision of a vehicle towards unit? 😄

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 AM

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_this attachTo [box ]; 
mergedList=allUnits+vehicles;



{ _this disableCollisionWith _x;} forEach mergedList;

hint "done";

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so wat have we learned today

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1) arma 3 is not made for a star wars mod

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 AM

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😄

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 AM

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How to find a ton of wonky ass weird workarounds to make some wonky ass thing work that nobody thought about before

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Just a usual Arma day

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:53 AM

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yiss

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:53 AM

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still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:53 AM

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Though.. If a starwars mod made that shield

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Why don't they just add a method to disable collision?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:53 AM

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They should have thought about GEOM LOD

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really

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:54 AM

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well about that

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I have no idea why the head zeus of my unit asked me to find out how,I assuemd a sheidl

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sheild*

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I just needed a story to explain it easier

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The thing is in the mod theres a acclamator,thats empty and not solid cuase well

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:55 AM

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lul

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:55 AM

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arma 3 cant handle a giant space cruiser

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so wat he does is fill it,like how optre has buildable rooms like doom3

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:56 AM

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slaps @edgy dune with a rolled up newspaper to punish him for inventing stories

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:56 AM

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so image for somereason my superior wants to make sheilds or something

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also in the update ofr the mod droideks wont have sheilds,so ima script a shield on them that lets bullets through but thats a later story

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sorry 😃

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but its easier to explain XD

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 9:57 AM

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Shield that lets bullets out but not in?

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:58 AM

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in

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The thing is I just want the sheild to be there for cosmetic,but its solid, so I wana have it where things go through it,but thats a thing for a later time

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https://imgur.com/a/XouZK

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result ^^

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man scripting is fun 😃

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I like making the arma 3 sub go 18000 kmph and 600km away from the map

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btw I can confirm that going 600km away from the map does not crash the game

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:00 AM

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On x64 it will at some point, but that point is kinda far away

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:00 AM

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yeah 600km is not enough You need to go reeaaaaally far

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It's the same on 32bit as on x64

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:00 AM

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ive gone th speed of light tho

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i set the velo ti 9*10^9

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to*

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:01 AM

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I imagine the size of the map you need for that stuff

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:01 AM

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anyways time to sleep XD

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yea we wanted to have

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the star fighters come into ops at light speed

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and pop right over the AO,same for star ship but well.....frames

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:02 AM

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Simulate it with pseudo-movement, like you just setVelocity it into nowhere with a resulting setPos

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:03 AM

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^^^

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I thought about that

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do it over water so it sorta looks like ur moving

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pararrel axing? watever the word is

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no wait I need to sleep now

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Sleep is for weak

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SQF is life

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SQF is love

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:04 AM

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spqr Senātus Populusque Rōmānus

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:07 AM

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How to add curator items with custom icons and options 😐

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:08 AM

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options? What do you mean by curator items? They are just normal items like in the editor

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:08 AM

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I want custom icons for them so they stand out

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Wht kind of items?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

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I am doing a new ai script, I want it to create a object that has a custom icon in zeus. So when the group get's cached it can be edited and moved and uncached by the zeus

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

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Ah you mean in 3D? I thought you were talking about the unit/object/vehicle/item/module list on the right side

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

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yeah 3d

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

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I'm quite sure that's in engine and not modifyable

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:09 AM

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per frame with draw 3d?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Uh.. yeah. Could work

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DrawIcon3D positionWorldToScreen

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:10 AM

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🤔

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Or just drawIcon3D. Don't need worldToScreen ofc 😄

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Hmm

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 AM

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There was function for custom icons

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 AM

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There is the thing that online, player groups have arma units logo abouve them

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I wonder if that's editable or an option

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 10:14 AM

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This one https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addCuratorIcon

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:14 AM

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All things I so far wanted to edit on Zeus was in engine :/

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:14 AM

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ohh thanks

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Whoa this is exactly what I needed

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Also shouldn't kill performance as it addds to the array of curatoricons

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:17 AM

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But you can't move it as far as I see? You probably can by manually doing stuff in it's internals

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How does that thing work internally?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:18 AM

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private ["_curator","_icon","_iconID","_icons"];
_curator = _this param [0,objnull,[objnull]];
_icon = _this param [1,[],[[]]];
_show2D = _this param [2,true,[true]];
_show3D = _this param [3,true,[true]];

if (_show2D || _show3D) then {
    _icons = _curator getvariable ["bis_fnc_addcuratoricon",[]];
    _iconID = count _icons;
    _icons set [count _icons,[_icon,_show2D,_show3D]];
    _curator setvariable ["bis_fnc_addcuratoricon",_icons];
    _iconID
} else {
    -1
};

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So rest of it

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Is internal

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Ohh

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:19 AM

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Are you sure? setting a variable doesn't sound that engine side.
Probably some func elsewhere

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I just wonder if it might use the drawIcon3D way you already thought of using

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:22 AM

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Cant find in functions_f or curator_functions

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Hi there,
how can i find out, what gear is put to different supply crates by default? config path to init expression?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:32 AM

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spawn it and check what's in it ^^

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Honestly the easiest way

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you could ofcause scan it's config

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:33 AM

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problem is - generic BIS containers are the subject to resource leak, they leave garbage in logEntities and jip queue

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:33 AM

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Boxes too?

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createVehicleLocal then

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Maybe local garbage in logEntities but nothing in JIP

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:36 AM

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create some containers "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle getPos player;, check entities (4 vests with SupplyXX container associated + 1 orphaned SupplyXX). Destroy crate - orphaned object doesn't go.

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It's in vanilla reproducible everytime

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:37 AM

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Ohh like containers like clothes inside a container?

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That's interesting

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:39 AM

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yep, and

clearMagazineCargoGlobal _crate;
clearWeaponCargoGlobal _crate;
clearItemCargoGlobal _crate;
clearBackpackCargoGlobal _crate;

doesn't help. Orphaned SupplyXX stays orphaned, contributes to JIP queue, network traffic, messages like Server/Client object not found

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Is that happens on dedicated server ?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:41 AM

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🤔

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:41 AM

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dedicated, hosted game, 3Deden

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Are ther empty versions of the creates?

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:43 AM

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idk

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:45 AM

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messages like Server/Client object not found SERIOUSLY?

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You might have just solved the biggest mistery in Arma server hosting history

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:45 AM

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So, how do I repro in local hosted MP?

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:46 AM

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reproduce what? Leak? obj not found?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Nice old talk about object not found? 😃

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Leak,
spawn several crates around you
"IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle getPos player; get logEntities, destroy crates by any mean, e.g. deleteVehicle cursorTarget; recheck entities.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:49 AM

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I actually solved this great mystery about Object Not Found once and for all. Simple thing - you cannot delete oprhan object link with deleteVehicle if the vehicle is not owned by you.

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Why "several"?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Because one is boring

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@unborn ether Who owns the vehicle then?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

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So if object is created with server (OWNER: 2) and you deleteVehicle it, the link still exist for owner, while vehicle is null already.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

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So it's always left over somewhere?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Shit but true

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

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And vehicles deleted on client are left on server?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Not like somewhere, the owner still have its namespace links, but fails to find it.

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Same for any owner

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:51 AM

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But if the owner deletes it then it's truely gone for him?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:51 AM

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If owner of the vehicle is client and server deletes it - client will also spam Object not Found

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yes

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It's better to deleteVehicle anything with server for example, previously making setOwner 2

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You'll get rid of that spam

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BUT, not everything works that way fine on engine, while cleaning garbage like bullet projectiles

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Thats why you get something like Object Not Found (16: 423)

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Where 16 is your clientOwner

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:53 AM

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I never heard about anyone having a reason for that spam

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:53 AM

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I've been struggling with this since Arma 2

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:53 AM

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Maybe that helps BI to fix it now?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:53 AM

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Just found out it a year ago

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:53 AM

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private _box = "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle getPos player;
diag_log text "====================";
logEntities;
deleteVehicle _box;
diag_log text "====================";
logEntities;
diag_log text "====================";

So, would this work executed as local host?

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:54 AM

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yep, SupplyXX leak will be there

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:54 AM

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I don't know, since i don't see the creator and the insigator of that deleteVehicle

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:54 AM

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There's only the local host.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:55 AM

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I'd say you need atleast 2 machines

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Local Host, mean client-server?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:55 AM

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And SupplyXX are the container dummies of uniforms/vests/baclpacks, right?

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Local Host means local host. No idea what a client-server is. That's an oxymoron.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:56 AM

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yes, they pile up in entities, jip queue, parasite network

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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can u delete those entities? or iddentiyfy them?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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you can list them with logEntities

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I'm sure I could delete them too. But SQF probably can't

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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How do you know if the ones were from delete things 'tho?

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ahh okay

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Dedmen can delete them lol.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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if (local _object) then {
    deleteVehicle _object;
} else {
    if (isServer) then {
        _object setOwner 2;
        deleteVehicle _object;
    } else {
        // RE it to server to make it go away
    };
};

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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I can delete everything :U

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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you can if you know netId, but there is no way to find them by entites, nearobject etc

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Sorry no markup

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:58 AM

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You can edit messages 😉 and add markup

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 10:58 AM

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```sqf

```
for syntax highlighting.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Did anyone check what the roque object's position is after it "disappears" ?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 10:58 AM

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[0,0,0] for sure

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as its objNull already

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 10:59 AM

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So no? Damn that would be a fun project to investigate now

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Still 5 hours at work. And then 5-6 days waiting till my HDD is undeaded

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Well, whoever said this works, it doesn't, because I overwrite the previous log file with the new one - same frame.

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I also see no Object Not Found (16: 423) in the RPT.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:02 AM

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@commy2 As been told to get rid of it, deleteVehicle should be performed at the point where vehicle is local to command instgator

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A bit of notice, any driver unit (MP) takes owner to himself once he enters the seat

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:03 AM

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I don't want to get rid of it my friend, I want to reproduce it. Provoke it.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Then createVehicle it on client and deleteVehicle it on server or vise versa. Repeatedly. Once you'll get it

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:04 AM

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"Repeatedly" - oh boy.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Well that doesn't happen all the time for some reason.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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@little eagle , you want to reproduce supplyXX leak or obj not found?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Yes.

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 11:05 AM

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Spawned: Pos: [852.500000][5.892423][4234.500000], N:IG_supplyCrate_F | Destroyed: Pos: [852.500000][-88.984962][4234.500000], N:IG_supplyCrate_F

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Preferably all by one script, so I have a unit test.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:08 AM

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Sec

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:09 AM

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> Loc:1, ForDel:0, Dstr:0, DmgDstr:0, DmgDead:0, Sim:1, Inv: 0, AnyPl:0, Out: 0, NetID:2:193, Pos: [0.000000][0.000000][0.000000], N:Supply140
> Loc:1, ForDel:0, Dstr:0, DmgDstr:0, DmgDead:0, Sim:1, Inv: 0, AnyPl:0, Out: 0, NetID:2:198, Pos: [0.000000][0.000000][0.000000], N:Supply100

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I got these two left after deleting the box. Is that what you mean?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:10 AM

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Looks like it yeah

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

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isn't that because of their destruction type? (aka ground sinking)

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

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private _vehicles = [];
for '_x' from 0 to 25 do {
    private _vehicle = "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,random 1000];
    _vehicles pushBack _vehicle;
};

[[_vehicles],{
    params ["_vehicles"];
    {deleteVehicle _x} forEach _vehicles; 
}] remoteExecCall ["call", -2];

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run on server with client connected

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

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deleteVehicle'd things don't sink into ground

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:11 AM

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those are ammoboxes

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yes they do

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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huh 😮

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I guess I never deleteVehicled a ammo box

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Maybe same as destroyed buildings then? kinda

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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but yes, deleteVehicle does remove it, not sink it

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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stap confusing me :u

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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it could be a bug with that destruction type tho, houses have a different destruction type from boxes ^

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 AM

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What do you mean about "sinking" i dont get then?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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they had the same in 2013, but since sinking houses didn't look good they changed that

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Default destroyed animation?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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0 spawn {
    systemChat "begin";
    logEntities;
    sleep 1;
    private _box = "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle getPos player;
    sleep 1;
    logEntities;
    sleep 1;
    deleteVehicle _box;
    sleep 1; // deleteVehicle applied next frame
    logEntities;
    systemChat "done";
};

^ this is the repro for the log file filling up, though I don't know if this means that these objects are still accessible in the game.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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nope, destruction type

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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I mean destroyed houses sit under the ground and never get deleted

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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nah

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it was changed in december 2013

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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And as the supply thingies somehow also don't get deleted

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Are you sure?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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yes

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:13 AM

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I remember that from less than a year ago

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 AM

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house sinking was removed a few months after launch, at least on vanilla buildings

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 AM

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less then a year ago so less than 8 days ago?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 AM

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NOTICE: deleteVehicle destroys any object created via createVehicle. If it is a map object (not mission.sqm) it will have NO effect. Any map building is "sinking" to the ground to -100 Z-Vector and will be present until end of times. Truth

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 AM

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than* , nigel

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 AM

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@little eagle , those orphaned supplyXX objects only accessible if you know their netId, afaik you can get those from logEntries, no other way from inside the game

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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And I think there was a bug report on feedback tracker about it last year @lone glade so you really really sure?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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it's possible they reintroduced it

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wouldn't be the first time that happens

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Can you get them via their netID and then delete/setPos them?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Well, now let me be a skeptic for a moment. If you can't access them ingame, what harm do they do appearing in a log file?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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They are in JIP queue and they are apparently simulated

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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they're still in the scene or not?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Yes they are

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 AM

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yeah, then it's an issue

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 AM

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And they spam errors to RPT

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Can't reproduce the errors in RPT.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 AM

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But one question. How do you manage to not delete a "sinked" object created with createVehicle or mission? Thats strange

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:17 AM

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is it reproducible with all vehicle types?

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or just supply?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Thats a general object behaviour only applied to an objects of a map (where you cant delete or neither attach them).

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:18 AM

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Another question. Why N:Supply140 and N:Supply100? The box had like 10 vests and two backpacks. Why one of each?

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:18 AM

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@still forum , delete - yes. On DS i had issue with spamming object not found. Server (2) didn't know about the object but owner (HC) had it in entities (tried to do some sync work, messages Type_93, Type_121. I checked the object on HC (it was there and it was orphaned SupplyXX), destroyed that instance on HC by netId, it was gone

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:19 AM

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So destroying by netID works.. That's good.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Well thats destroying a link straight. Anyways thats kinda messy.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:19 AM

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But no way to get netId of orphaned obj, it's not searchable

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:19 AM

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I could get all these entities via Intercept but maybe there is a better way

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:19 AM

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didn't someone here say destroying it where it's local works?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Yes i did.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Can't you just live scan the RPT on the server. Harvest the ID's and delete

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:20 AM

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then just remoteExec deleteVehicle with the object as target

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boom, done

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Or run logEntities on the server. and use a extension to analyze the logfile

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:21 AM

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Replace all:

deleteVehicle _object;

with:

_object remoteExec ["deleteVehicle"];

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:21 AM

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missing target

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:21 AM

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No, everywhere.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:21 AM

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Kinda spams a packet to everyone but well..

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You should just remoteExec it to server with setOwner

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:21 AM

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Why?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

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One packet, 100% guaranteed

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

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remoteExec goes through the server to find the owner if you pass the object

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

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this remoteExec will send a packet to 0 - EVERYONE

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so every PC including server DS will do deleteVehicle

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

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thing is, that those orphaned objects are still the subject to change ownership , even if it has netId like 45:3456, if client 45 disconnects, that shit changes ownership to 2 but netId is still 45:xxx

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:22 AM

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... yes, and as I said, just pass the object as target

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:23 AM

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@south pasture Well thats sad,

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:23 AM

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I still can't reproduce it.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:23 AM

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@lone glade Vehicle will be deleted on the first cycle when packet sent, so you don't know who will delete it first and if he is an owner of it.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:24 AM

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jesus

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:24 AM

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_object remoteExec ["deleteVehicle",_object];

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will exc only wehn object locla

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:24 AM

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^ this will execute it on the owner's machine only

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:25 AM

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^ this one proper.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:25 AM

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and is what I meant

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:25 AM

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Then its ok

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But this still sends a bit more packets than usual, as I assume it will scan owner among all PC's.

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Not sure tho

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:26 AM

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set the remoteExec mode to 1 in description.ext, now watch as your network melts

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:26 AM

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Fun fact.
"Supply20"
"Supply40"
"Supply100"
"Supply120"
"Supply180"
"Supply200"

These are very efficiently compressed b the netcode. As you can see there are some missing 😄

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:27 AM

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max one is 480

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which is 48 grenades, or 480 bananas

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:27 AM

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or infinite dogtags

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:27 AM

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🙀

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I don't think you can have infinite dogtags?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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wait, they are mass 0?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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they were

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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I managed to get 10 000 car keys

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Didn't you want to get that changed

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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yes, but meh

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:28 AM

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I think dogtags were too. So you couldn't accidentally loose it

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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imho all objects should have mass, but hey

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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can you deleteVehicle buildings?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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map objects?

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kind of

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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@still forum only generated from mission or createVehicle

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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if you wanna troll the server owner by getting tens of thousands of car keys and crash the server / destroy framerates :/

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:29 AM

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lul

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Just fill your backpack with as many till you crash

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and then everyone who opens it will crash

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:30 AM

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select the thing, hold shift, hold right arrow, watch as your framerate drops

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Well, I got this message:

12:29:21 String STR_cba_xeh_all_component not found

on the server.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:31 AM

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YE BROKE IT

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:31 AM

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stringtable key missing.

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:31 AM

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And on the client 318 times:

12:30:12 Server: Object 3:341 not found (message Type_121)

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:31 AM

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Oh man.. delving into netcode. How fun

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:32 AM

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What a blast

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:32 AM

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So essentially, deleteVehicle will trigger this error message when used on a remote object.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:32 AM

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👌

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:33 AM

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If a non owner calls deleteVehicle. Does it keep existing for him?

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That's what commy tested isn't it?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:33 AM

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No, its nullified

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deleteVehicle is a global on effect

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:34 AM

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it still exist in the scene apparently

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:34 AM

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So I should look into what locally happens when it's deleted and not into the network message that's sent out?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:35 AM

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You should scan your code for any deleteVehicle and build a logics for yourself about how the locality is passed

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OR

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Just send it to server via remoteExec with setOwner 2; 😄

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:35 AM

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nah

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just pass the object as target in remoteExec and you're done

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:35 AM

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No no. I'm checking what the engine does

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If deleteVehicle locally doesn't work then I don't need to dive through the netcode

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Well, something is wrong here still. If I execute:

if (isServer) exitWith {};

private _vehicles = [];

for "_x" from 0 to 25 do {
    private _vehicle = "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,0];
    _vehicles pushBack _vehicle;
};

[_vehicles, {}] remoteExec ["call", 2];

I still get ~300 of these on the clients RPT. Without ever deleting anything.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Maybe they get..........

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Maybe the object is just fake

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and when you open it it opens the inventory of the invisible magic inventory object at [0,0,0]

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:36 AM

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if you spawn all of them at 0,0,0 they maybe end up exploding

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:36 AM

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And?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:36 AM

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But exploding doesn't mean they are NULL

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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And when you delete it the fake object is deleted but not the actual inventory

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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wait a second

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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So, since I can reproduce this without deleteVehicle, you all need to rethink this.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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maybe what's left is the ground holder attached to it?

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so you're deleting the object but not the holder for some reasons?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Not deleting anything, alganthe.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Can someone find out what the type in the config is for supply boxes? The thing in config that says that objects are boxes. I guess simulation and type

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:37 AM

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@commy2 Thats a new mystery to me about why the remote objects are not found just by sending them. jeez

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:38 AM

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If I have the netId I could just check what kind of object is behind that netID

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I will make the repro as simple as possible. Sec.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:38 AM

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but for that I need my devenv at home :/

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I also get a lot of these:
12:35:36 Matrix is not valid as physx transform! Object: 60b46b00# 498: supplydrop.p3d REMOTE, IG_supplyCrate_F, Remote

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Oh jezus, never send it via remoteExec again 😄

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I think i just made a new blackhole about deleteVehicle

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:41 AM

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You can get the object via netID right?

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What is typeOf?

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or str _obj

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:42 AM

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@still forum , my objects, which contributed to Object not found were SupplyXX (orphaned, without parent), message types 93, 121

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I don't really want to look up the message types.. Should I? It's always such a chore

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:44 AM

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I can reproduce without remoteExec.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:45 AM

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those objects are out of sync between master copy of the world (server) and other client copies

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:45 AM

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GLOBAL EXEC:

if (isServer) exitWith {}; 
 
private _vehicles = []; 
 
for "_x" from 1 to 2 do { 
    private _vehicle = "IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,0]; 
    _vehicles pushBack _vehicle; 
};

Server RPT:

12:44:13 Server: Object 3:1310 not found (message Type_121)
12:44:13 Server: Object 3:1309 not found (message Type_455)
12:44:13 Server: Object 3:1308 not found (message Type_455)
12:44:13 Error: Object(3 : 1309) not found

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 11:45 AM

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The thing in config that says that objects are boxes
vehicleClass = "Ammo"; ?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:46 AM

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@commy2 So it comes out when you remoteExec a command to create vehicle to a client - server fails to find it. Nice.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:46 AM

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@little eagle , and now check what object and what type, parent for 3:1310

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:47 AM

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No remoteExec used here.

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Just createVehicle and pushBack.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Global Exec is a remoteExec (if you mean about Debug Panel)

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Yeah, but it sends a piece of CODE. Who cares.

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The correct name is debug console.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Well seems like engine cares who sent it to you, some stuff around the instigator?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:48 AM

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If I execute blank code, no error happens.

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So it is createVehicle or pushBack.

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Definitely not remoteExec.

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Or deleteVehicle.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:48 AM

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Diag binary has diag mode BodyRemove. That coouuuld do stuff here

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 11:49 AM

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using random words won't make us magically help you

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:50 AM

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@commy2 When you press a GLOBAL button in Debug Console it sends this code (code block yes) as remoteExec to 0. The thing is that vehicle created via remoteExecuted instigation results in some harsh when creating a vehicle.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:50 AM

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I think in engine objects are only deleted when no one references them anymore... So someone probably keeps a ref.

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I can find out who.. With my frickin dev env GRRR

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:51 AM

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@commy2 I never tried what you did now before actually. So this is another mystery yet to solve.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:51 AM

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@still forum , maybe that ONE is jipQueue?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:51 AM

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But clients don't have a jipQueue so it should only exist on the server

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they should atleast disappear on the client

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Anyways its still better to create and delete vehicle only on a server machine (whatever method you use)

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Lessens the problem i think much.

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:54 AM

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@unborn ether , with world copy syncing - yes. But still those BIS vanilla crates leak supplyX - degrade network, performance, you name it

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:54 AM

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LOCAL EXEC on client:

private _vehicles = []; 
 _vehicles pushBack ("IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,0]); 
_vehicles pushBack ("IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,0]);

Server RPT:

12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1565 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1560 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1561 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1562 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1563 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1564 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1566 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1567 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1568 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1569 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1570 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1571 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1572 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1573 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1574 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1575 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1576 not found (message Type_121)
12:54:12 Server: Object 3:1577 not found (message Type_121)

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No remote exec, no GLOBAL EXEC.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Jesus

south pasture Jan 8, 2018, 11:55 AM

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when after 10+ hrs session you have 5k+ orphaned objects - no joy

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Message 121 could be UpdateCar or UpdatePositionCar

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Just never create any vehicle on client machine if its not createVehicleLocal

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profit

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Which would make sense

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Well, If I create only one object, no error happens.

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It has to be 2.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Try this on the server and see if client get this spam

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:56 AM

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Client: Object %d:%d (type %s) not found. That's the clientside message right?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:56 AM

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yep

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Yeah. Then that's a "Car" update message. Probably telling people it moved or was created

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without telling them that it even exists beforehand

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Ah, nvm:
LOCAL EXEC on client:

"IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle [0,0,0];

Server RPT:

12:57:32 Server: Object 3:1617 not found (message Type_121)
12:57:32 Server: Object 3:1618 not found (message Type_121)
12:57:32 Server: Object 3:1619 not found (message Type_121)
12:57:32 Server: Object 3:1620 not found (message Type_121)
12:57:32 Server: Object 3:1621 not found (message Type_121)
12:57:32 Error: Object(3 : 1610) not found
12:57:32 Error: Object(3 : 1611) not found
12:57:32 Error: Object(3 : 1612) not found
12:57:32 Error: Object(3 : 1613) not found

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Let's try the other way around...

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 11:58 AM

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Are you sure this is not the same objects spam you've created before?

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can you get a netID on created veh?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Yes, I restart the mission to make sure.

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Well, back to 3den.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Oh yeah. Compare netID's

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 11:59 AM

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Not restart.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 11:59 AM

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if it's like netID+1 then we know it's creating 2 vehicles

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:00 PM

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If I execute createVehicle on the server, no error happens.

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If I execute it on the client, there appear these in the servers RPT.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:00 PM

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It is spamming that message right? periodical updates and not jsut one message per object?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:00 PM

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3: is indeed the clients ownerID.

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No, only when I create them.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:01 PM

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So one message per object. hmpf

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:01 PM

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So creating it on server doesn't spam anything?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Doesn't appear to be so at least with this repro.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Well anyways thats an impending doom, because projectiles are also generated from a client with createVehicle.

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It coming to you can't do much about this spam.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:03 PM

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but projectiles don't leak do they?

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Atleast I don't know of a problem related to them

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:04 PM

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No actual idea for now about this exactly, still gives creeps.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:05 PM

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@little eagle did you check the netID stuff? If you create a box and the box has netID 5 does the error message have netID 4 or 6 ?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:06 PM

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@still forum clientID:netID it goes like this

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@still forum so first INT is a clientOwner ID

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:06 PM

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and the second is net objID I know

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If they increment though we know that the faulty object is indeed a seperate object and that it is spawned together with the actual box

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And if I have that I can trace where that thing is spawned and see what it does when it should get deleted

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:08 PM

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I disconnected with the client to inc the client owner id and now it says 4:xyz

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:08 PM

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If that is a netID generation fault, why would vehicle be properly exisitng? I think that should have led to a exception.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:08 PM

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I don't think it's a fault with the netID

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I think it creates the box first. Tells everyone on the network that it was created and then sends a position update. All fine.
Then it creates some helper object for some reason. Doesn't tell anyone that it exists. And then sends a position update. And other are like "wut? What's that?"

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So either it's a bug that it doesn't tell others that it exists. Or it's a bug that it sends position updates

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:10 PM

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Testing the first of the net ids in the RPT:
Server:

objectFromNetId "4:4" // 2c885600# 42: backpack_small.p3d REMOTE

Client:

objectFromNetId "4:4" // 47deb580# 37: backpack_small.p3d

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:11 PM

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And the ID of the object you created is?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:11 PM

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?

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A different one, because this is a backpack inside the crate I created.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:12 PM

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Is the netID of the vehicle you actually created. The box you have as cursorTarget. Is that different than the error message from RPT?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:12 PM

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I think its a fault of a backpack added to a box, since backpack is an actual standalone object instance.

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No idea what else that can be

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Found it, it's "4:3"

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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So like I guessed then

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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"4:3" is not logged on the server.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Actual object is 4:3 and it also creates a 4:4 that goes rogue

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Bingo, for 💩 sake

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:13 PM

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But the backpack works just fine, even on the server.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Try creating a box with a backpack from your server now.

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See if it results the same way

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:14 PM

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I'm tacking some stuff in https://github.com/dedmen/TodoStuff/issues/1 btw. I can't check all the engine side stuff without my dev-env. Maybe next week

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:17 PM

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If I create the box on the server, no error is logged.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:17 PM

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@commy2 btw, did you use addBackpackCargoGlobal on client?:

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@commy2 or just addBackpackCargo?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:17 PM

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No.

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Neither.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Oh cmon BI.. please... Boxes have AI? You can't be serious

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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"IG_supplyCrate_F" createVehicle position player;

Is all I did.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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boxes are onto us

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Btw, I can wear the logged ids as vests or backpacks just fine.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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That means that backpack is coming from config entry.

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:18 PM

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Yee.

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This is probably just a position update sent to the server for an object that it not yet received or something simple as that.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Now try to pickup that backpack from a box

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You've created

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on server

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And see client RPT

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Im pretty sure it will start spamming

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:21 PM

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No error.

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Nothing logged.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:21 PM

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So the server is the true daddy here. Ok. Anyways i never createVehicle from client.

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Thank god

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Tip of the day: createVehicle and deleteVehicle from server only (if not a createVehicleLocal)

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:23 PM

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and now someone please create an issue on the tracker so it can be ignored for an indefinite amount of time

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:23 PM

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I'm quite sure it already exists

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:24 PM

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In hundreds of copies.

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They should just disable the log message.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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are boxes physx?

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Offtopic: Just fapped to https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgDisabledCommands

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Yes.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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I need something to punch

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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your groin 😄

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:26 PM

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what is simulationType of a ammobox?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:26 PM

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thingX afaik, goig to check

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:27 PM

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@still forum simulationType is an engine tied entry which specify how this object behaves, for example if its a car which just explode on death, or a building which "sinks" down.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:27 PM

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Yeah?

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Why are you telling me that

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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and no, it isn't.

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destruction != simulation

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Pretty sure what you described is destructType.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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^ yes it is

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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Sorry then

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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so

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:28 PM

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destrType*

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:29 PM

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I found something I need to try asap, we may be able to make illumation only grenades

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:30 PM

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destrType = "DestructBuilding";
from ReammoBox_F

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:30 PM

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I need simType :U

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"simulation"

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:30 PM

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simulation = "thingX";
from ThingX

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:30 PM

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Ugh Fun then

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Just looking through the sim types.. strategicGame sounds interesting

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hovercraftX submarineX paraglide temp slop

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:32 PM

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What do you mean "looking through them". I'm pretty sure they appear all over the place like a single spaghetti in noodle soup.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:32 PM

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true

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else if else if else if else if else if else if... for all sim types

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:32 PM

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submarineX is used by SDV_01_base_F

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:33 PM

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rip sdv, you poor vehicle that will never be used properly

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:33 PM

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hovercraftX is unused

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:33 PM

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What happens if we make a box with thing instead of thingx

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:33 PM

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No physx.

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Which would solve like half the issues with it.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Could that have an impact on the errors?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Doubt it.

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It's not really about the box I suspect. The same would happen with a tank with the same cargo config.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:34 PM

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would or does?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:34 PM

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Would.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:34 PM

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If it happens with all inventory vehicles I need to look elsewhere

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but so far it sounded like it only happens with boxes and backpacks (which are boxes)

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Whats wrong with creating a vehicle on client? Creating it on server means that the server gets even more things to do. @unborn ether

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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@rotund cypress rogue existend non existend items and RPT spam

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Well only boxes have backpacks etc in their cargo in vanilla.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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the stuff we are talking about for over an hour

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Sorry cba to scroll up

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Whats wrong with creating a vehicle on client?
Nothing, just some RPT spam that means squat.

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:36 PM

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Rogue existend?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:36 PM

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after you delete it a part of it is still there

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:36 PM

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And what is causing the RPT spam?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:36 PM

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The bogus object that doesn't really exist but still sends position updates

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Probably position updates sent to the server of objects not existing on the server (yet).

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:37 PM

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@rotund cypress Causing tons of leaks when created on client.

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:37 PM

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Ah I see. Leaks?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:37 PM

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these objects

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That are there but cannot be deleted really

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You can only delete them by getting their netID from a error message or logEntities manually and then deleting them by getting the object from it's netid

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:38 PM

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I mean creating vehicles on client regardless of RPT spam or not, is what I would do since it is probably in most cases > beneficial than having RPT spam

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:38 PM

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If boxes are thingX and backpacks inherit from them. Backpacks are also thingX

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And so far we know backpacks and boxes are the problem. So it might aswell be thingX that's the problem

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But if you have a lot of vehicles that you cannot delete even if you want?

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:39 PM

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I mean honestly, every damn update RPT just starts being spammed more and more

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Small missions probably doesn't matter.

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Wait it results in you not being able to delete them?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Most of the RPT spam is these objects though. Atleast that's what it currently looks like

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Do you read what I write?

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You can only delete them by getting their netID from a error message or logEntities manually and then deleting them by getting the object from it's netid

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Ah sorry

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:41 PM

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I'd really like to know if it also happens with thing boxes instead of thingX

tough abyss Jan 8, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Pretty sure there is old sqf code run unscheduled to brute force remove them, from last time issue with supplyX getting left behind

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Sorry if you already wrote this, but what is actually causing this?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:41 PM

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a bug / bad design

rotund cypress Jan 8, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Yeah thats all welll but how can i reproduce it myself?

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Of course its a bug.

tough abyss Jan 8, 2018, 12:42 PM

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Kinda weird seeing people trying to rework similiar bug/issue a year or 2 later

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:43 PM

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This is a Neverending Story itself 😄

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But the magic is really black here

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I even found a better example

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I didn't look into it yet. Maybe there is a chance to fix it

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I think Getting Over It is an exact explanation of that experience 😄

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:44 PM

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And hand BI the fix just to have them put it onto their todo stack

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Sometimes i think that a problem of the engine at its core, i'll never believe they've never investigated that

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Well ofcause it's a problem in the engine

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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I think in the part where you cant really do much about it anymore.

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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And what is the actual problem? RPT getting too big after long missions?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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All the objects being there and being simulated

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-> server fps bad

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Mainly its not just simulation case

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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@unborn ether Everything can be fixed

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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The thing is that really cause CPU utilization

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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Well, the repro is creating and deleting cargo boxes. Which mission does that?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM

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@little eagle Ever dropped a backpack on the ground?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Like twice in an actual mission.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Add's up

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:48 PM

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some public "dynamic" missions do it a lot more often

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:49 PM

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So, I heard deleting the cargo didn't help either?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Like.. Take a 60 player public server that's online for 3 days. Players swap like 3 times a day. So 180 players per day. 3 days that's 540. Everyone dropping backpack twice.
1080 rogue simulated possibly even physx vehicles sucking all the CPU time

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:50 PM

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at that point i'd be more scared of scheduled scripts breaking

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:50 PM

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All of them also spamming network messages about their position updates

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causing crapton of RPT errors on all clients. Spamming their RPT and dropping their FPS

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:50 PM

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but yes, I once saw a 42GB RPT log

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42 fucking gygabites

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:51 PM

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So the issue isn't that that's not a real problem.

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I think I even had 200GB once

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or 178. Something close. I have screenshot somewhere

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:51 PM

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That can't happen to me luckily. I only have 119 GB space left.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:52 PM

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If you want to continue remind me about https://github.com/dedmen/TodoStuff/issues/1 in a week. If I have time I'll look into the engine side of things

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:53 PM

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RELEASE TFAR 1.0 ALREADY

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ded mod

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no update in 2017

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:53 PM

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I can't run Arma.

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I can't dev on the plugin

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fuck off

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:54 PM

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you dev on prod, all your commits are releases

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:56 PM

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^ that will at least force you to write your code carefully.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:57 PM

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Ammo boxes can also have fuel and fill up vehicles?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:57 PM

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fuel, no idea, ammo yes

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considering both are usable on the same objects then i'd say it's also possible

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Atm:

"Does this commit break anything? Nah, some other dev will complain if it does before release".
no one tests it
release, "Why is this broken?"

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 12:58 PM

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"Huh, that issue wasn't raised in testing"
"How the fuck did nobody notice this?"

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Does the bug also happen when putting a backpack into a box? Where the backpack entity should realistically get deleted and removed from logEntities

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 1:00 PM

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isn't there an issue with backpack entities not being deleted properly too?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:00 PM

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Yes

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Where the backpack entity should realistically get deleted and removed from logEntities
What? Why?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:05 PM

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If you put a backpack in a box. The model disappears

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 1:05 PM

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it shouldn't, the ground holder still exist somewhere

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:06 PM

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It just just an entry in a list of items

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But yeah. The ground holder appears to continue existing. Which is probably the problem

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init EH is called on the backpack when you take it out of a box?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 1:07 PM

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@still forum https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/firstBackpack

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Yeah. Understood

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But if you remove the backpack from the box via script. Then the rogue entity is leftover?

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Oh wauw.. If you call removeBackpack on a unit. He drops his backpack on the ground. Creating a new weapon holder and broadcasting it to all clients. Then calls init EH on the holder. Adds the backpack into the holder which it again broadcasts to everyone over the network. Then removes the backpack from the unit's inventory, again broadcasting the changed inventory over the network. Then again sends a position update over the network.. Then calls deleteVehicle on it.

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 1:20 PM

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🙀 🙀 🙀

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:20 PM

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They could also just remove the backpack from the unit. And delete it.

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But... BI and over 10 year old code that was written in a rush and never looked at again

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 1:23 PM

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Some of that might be to fix the duplication which was very present in alpha

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You could just drag the same item very fast and create 2 or grab the same item very quickly with another player from a container

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bag or such

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 1:23 PM

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@still forum Are you sure about it? WeaponHolder is created each time you open inventory without cargo container

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:25 PM

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Yes

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You don't open inventory

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As I said when you remove the backpack via script from a unit

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Didn't say anything about opening inventory

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 1:37 PM

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👌 Nothing of optimization value was lost

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 1:40 PM

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I'll better stay with optimizing and fixing scripting stuff.

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That other stuff is too much hassle

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 1:42 PM

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do I have to make any changes to any scripts ive made for zeus if I wana put em in eden

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 1:43 PM

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example?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Probably.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 2:06 PM

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oh commy tags?

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also question

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now im lazy,and I have a vr block with 2 addAction,one makes the block red the other blu

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now as I am lazy I dont reallly want to walk up to the vr block and I want to have another vr block thats next to me,allow me to activate an addAction of another block

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how do u do that?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Give the one you want to change the color of a variable name and use setObjectTexture with that name instead of _target

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 2:24 PM

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well about that

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heres the full story

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so idk if u saw but me and demen had a swell time tryna find a way to have infantry and vic be able to go through a object

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the reason was that my unit is a star wars unit and we would impliment such ermm "feature" as a shield, like the ones in front of hangers

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 2:25 PM

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"demen" triggered

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 2:25 PM

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sowwie

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now the hangars have hangar doors, and well if u watch star wars the venator has like 6 of em far awayt from each other

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theres a object that we have where there is this small little box u walk up to to open the hagnar door

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hangar*

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Wat I wana do is have it so that I could open any of them from say the "air traffic control center"

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 2:27 PM

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🤘

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 2:28 PM

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thats the full story

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any ideas how such can be done

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I would try the who varialbe naming thing tho

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 2:35 PM

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if the opening boxes just have addAction scripts

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just add these actions to yourself

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then everyone can come up and press your buttons to open doors

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 2:35 PM

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-.-

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ur having fun arnt u,but yea ill try that

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i should first find out wat object it actually is XD

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Exactly like I described:

Give the one you want to change the color of a variable name and use [x] with that name instead of _target

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 3:20 PM

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Okaie dokie i try when I get home ripppp

meager heart Jan 8, 2018, 3:22 PM

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May the force be with you

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 3:25 PM

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\\//_

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Eh.

lucid junco Jan 8, 2018, 3:27 PM

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hi, is there some way to disable Ai go prone? know about setunitpos "UP". but i need them to be crouched or UP but never layed down.

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 3:38 PM

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@lucid junco AI will resume his current behaviour even if you force command. The behaviour of AI proning is possibly coming from a suppression module. This one can be disabled with:

_unit disableAI "SUPPRESSION";

Should help

lucid junco Jan 8, 2018, 3:40 PM

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will try thx

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doesnt work

unborn ether Jan 8, 2018, 3:47 PM

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@lucid junco Visit https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableAI, try disabling some behaviour step by step until ALL and watch if prone commands are no more

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:13 PM

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@lucid junco ```sqf
_unit disableAI "AUTOCOMBAT";
_unit setBehaviour "AWARE";

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I think you can also make a config edit for terrain config. They should have a value that's the chance of going prone in that ground type

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 5:16 PM

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The floor is lava! You can't go prone on that

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Haha, exactly

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:18 PM

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"the floor is lava" - physX

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:23 PM

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i'm trying to create an array of units whose name contains a couple characters of a string. I was hoping to do something with find or in with allUnits but can't get it to work.

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:23 PM

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You want what?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:24 PM

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use select?

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:25 PM

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if i have units named "a_unit1", "unit2", "unit3", "a_unit4" then how do i quickly return "a_unit1" and "a_unit4"

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:25 PM

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allUnits select {"myChars" in _x}
use tolower if you don't want case sensitivity

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:26 PM

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tf?

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how do i quickly return "a_unit1" and "a_unit4"
[a_unit1, a_unit4]

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:27 PM

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yea, i'm not explaining well, sorry, i need foods, hold on, i'l clarify

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:27 PM

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mychars in name _x?

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I dn't think you can in for a unit?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:28 PM

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use str then

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:29 PM

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(toLower name player) find 'n' > -1

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checks if n is in player name

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returns true if n in name

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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in returns a bool, use that instead

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oh wait, no you can't use in like that 😄

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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in isn't working right or i'm not doing it right

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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Are you all drunk? None of what you all write makes any sense.

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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@sand pivot are u spawning units with the editor?

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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yeah, I might be

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:31 PM

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editor, not curator, so yes, prenamed, really there are only a few units that i want to earmark as curator objects

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Lol commy are u drunk, because you can't make sense ? 😄

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Are the units of a cerrtain side or ethnecity or in a certain area?

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Don't name them all

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Just grab them from allUnits from inArea or sth

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I can't imagine naming 100 units

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 5:32 PM

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I think you need to toArray and then nearstObjects

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:32 PM

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there are only like 8 of the 100 civilians that i want to grab

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 5:32 PM

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@little eagle I don't understand what you mean

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Names are not reliable, use vehicleVariableName instead

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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Then give them names, remember the names, and write the names down as array.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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If you set their names anyway. Use that as variable name and use use the variables

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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i think find will work as @peak plover suggested, i'll test and report back

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/juVGjZJ.png

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Use variable name instead of name

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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i don't mean names names, i mean variable names

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Aah

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Yeah then.. Just use them if you already know what names you have

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:34 PM

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_myUnits = [my_dude_1,my_dude_2];

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:34 PM

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[unit_1,unit_2,unit_3,unit_4,unit_5, unit_6, unit_7, unit_8]

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Done.

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:35 PM

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i would be explicit but trying to make this work across a variety of missions so just using an index like "x_unit_blah" allows me to just find the "x" units

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i think i'm sorted now

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Coding that behavior into the varnames of the units is a bad idea.

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:36 PM

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i'm listening

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Listening what? That's all. It's ugly.

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:37 PM

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private _dudes = [];
for '_i' from 0 to 100 do {
    private _dude = missionNamespace getVariable [format['my_dude_%1',_i],nil];
    if (!isNil "_dude") then {
        _dudes pushback _dude;
    };
};
// _dudes now contains all of my_dude_<0 - 100>

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:37 PM

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ha, ok

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would you suggest an alternate method for adding objects/units to the curator? @little eagle

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perhaps just in their init?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Yea.

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:40 PM

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i guess the other issue i didn't account where scripting helps is if i have multiple curators

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though that can be done in the init as well

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:43 PM

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forEach allCurators

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:43 PM

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yup

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{_x addCuratorEditableObjects [[this], true]}forEach allCurators;

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:43 PM

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that won't work on a server

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:43 PM

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blast

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 5:44 PM

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actually

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if in init

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it will

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because init also runs on server

sand pivot Jan 8, 2018, 5:59 PM

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throwing it in the init of the object worked on the DS. thanks for being a sounding board for bad ideas y'all

winter dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:28 PM

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params [
            "",
            "",
            ["_value",false,[true]],
            ["_value2",[],[[]]]
        ];

Should I be doing this or not?

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or just use param for each parameter

subtle ore Jan 8, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Params = multiple
Param = single

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Also, that's a lot of whitespace wasted. Slap it on one line

winter dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:31 PM

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hmm ok

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so even if I need to select for example, param 2 and 3

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should use params and then type "" where I don't need that param

subtle ore Jan 8, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Yep

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//passed [this,2]
//fnc_yourFnc
params[["_unit",objNull,[objNull],1],["_int",0,[0],1]];

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:39 PM

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params with 2 or more variables. param with just one

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but for consistency I'd say always params

winter dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:40 PM

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and how can I transform my params above?

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if I only need the 2 vars

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:40 PM

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Keep it like that?

winter dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:41 PM

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so it's not wrong

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but it just looks bad

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:41 PM

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jup

winter dune Jan 8, 2018, 8:41 PM

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...

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 8:41 PM

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Well... Different people like different things

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:03 PM

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param works completely differently than params. They're vaguely related at best. param is a better version of select, and params is like private + a bunch of select/param all at once.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:05 PM

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So... They are completely different.. In that param does the same exact thing as params besides actually assigning the variable

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Yes, they are completely different.

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Wasn't params just the "Mutli Array" Version of Param?!

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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does param still call the default return even when a suitable value is given?

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_value = param [0, call slow_ass_function];

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:06 PM

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No. param is a better version of select. You can say param and select are similar, but not param and params.

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:07 PM

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@Adanteh#0761 you apparently didn't understand how SQF works ^^

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:07 PM

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just saying it would be nice that it was somehow magical and wouldn't do that

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:07 PM

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You can only pass values

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a potential function call that might return whatever or nothing or might error or crash the game is not a value

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Ah, param had Index Selection, params defines the _var directly instead of IndexSelection

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Dedmen, by your logic, private and params do "the exact same thing" plus params doing a bit more.

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:09 PM

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param[0,ObjNull,[ObjNull]];

params
[
    ["_Obj1",ObjNull,[ObjNull]],
    ["_Obj2",ObjNull,[ObjNull]]
];``` *

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:09 PM

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underscore

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Semi colon.

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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fork off

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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spaces between commas..... ? :3

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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My Keyboard sucks

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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Now put the [ in the same line.

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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no space after comma is broken code

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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@austere granite 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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it won't work

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:10 PM

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@little eagle NEVER! 🖕 🖕 🖕 🖕

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Capitalizing commands like objNull is broken code.

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:11 PM

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yo mom issa brokin code!1oneeleven

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:12 PM

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That's pretty mean dude

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:12 PM

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It's just commy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:13 PM

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In 2017, German shitposter Dscha was asked what it felt like to insult a human, "I wouldn't know, i've only ever insulted commies"

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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*2018

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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2018

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okay

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FU

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fuuuuuuuuuuu

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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noob

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😄

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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private _obj1 = param [0, objNull, [objNull]];
private _obj2 = param [1, objNull, [objNull]];

params [
    ["_obj1", objNull, [objNull]],
    ["_obj2", objNull, [objNull]]
];

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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why private the param?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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:U

austere granite Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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else it doedsnt private....

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:14 PM

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U srs

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troll

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Hmm

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micro optimization question

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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private _obj1 = param [0, objNull, [objNull]];
private _obj2 = param [1, objNull, [objNull]];

params
[
    ["_obj1", objNull, [objNull]],
    ["_obj2", objNull, [objNull]]
];```
*fixed

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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@jade abyss Dschakyll and Hyde

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Already on my list 😄

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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delete that @jade abyss

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Force me

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Wasted lines, wasted energy, wasted trees, Save The Trees!

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:16 PM

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What's the cheapest way of doing a local object or marker or location?

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Screw the trees, blow up the earth!

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:16 PM

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There's a possbility there would be 1000 of these

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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What's the cheapest way to do 3 completly different things and only one of them?

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no

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Hmm

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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The cheapest way is to turn off the electrical j...

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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There is 1 way to create a local object. And rest dunno

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Is it expensive to do a local object or marker or location for 1000 times? What's cheapest way of saving position like that? Array?

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:17 PM

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The cheapest way is to turn off the electrical j...```
j.... ?

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Was that a ref. to that famous Doc?

still forum Jan 8, 2018, 9:18 PM

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position?

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Just save the position as... numbers

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And I think location is cheapest?

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Axel Stoll was very famous.

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Dr. Axel Stoll

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Hmm

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:19 PM

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"Die Sonne ist KALT!"

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"Weiß ma wieder keiner"

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:19 PM

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I could save the location and I'm wondering what if I have 1000s of them.
I want zeus to be able to "wake" or edit cached units which will be deletevehicle'd

little eagle Jan 8, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Well, "Physicians" want to tell you that the sun is a black body when it's clearly white/yellow.

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:24 PM

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okay so ik i asked this earlier but I think I explained it wrong

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its the hangar door thing

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so in the optre mod there is this thing called

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hangar door[frigate]

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and it has a little box next to it that allows u to open and close the door

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now say i have a vr block thats say at the air traffic control center, is there away to have that box open that hangars door? basicicly trigger that animation?

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or actualy,how can u set the animation of something?

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wouldnt that do the same thing?

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Suree

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I'd look into how ace opens doors with shortcut

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:34 PM

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well its not with ace

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:34 PM

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You could get code tips from it

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it's open source

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Locations is fine, but I get fps drop on map

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I guess that's fine

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:35 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/wQzUi

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if u see that image,that little box,all u do is walk up to it and it pops up like an addAction

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ohh yea

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 9:37 PM

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https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/9cce08f1521384b37a9d185a0a5cae875029c8b8/addons/interaction/functions/fnc_getDoorAnimations.sqf

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https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/9cce08f1521384b37a9d185a0a5cae875029c8b8/addons/interaction/functions/fnc_getDoor.sqf

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You can get tips from here

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:38 PM

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aye will look

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:38 PM

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use https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animate with an addAction

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:38 PM

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holy shit how much has commy2 done O.O

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okay so about that animate thing

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:39 PM

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oh right, https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animateSource exist now

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:39 PM

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_this animate ["door_1_rot"];
_this animate ["door_2_rot"];
``` and I used [west, "HQ"] sideChat format["%1",(animationNames _this)];

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:40 PM

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you're missing the state (0 or 1)

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 PM

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_this animate ["door_1_rot", 1, true];
_this animate ["door_2_rot", 1, true];

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would I have to try with 0 aswell?

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i got those 2 names btw

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 PM

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animateSource ^ and yes

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:41 PM

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from hinting the names at my self

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oh so use animaeSource and try with 0

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:42 PM

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and animateSource third param is the speed (and also optional)

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:45 PM

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hmm still not working

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and this is wat im using

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_this animateSource [((animationNames _this) select 0), 1, true];
_this animateSource [((animationNames _this) select 0), 0, true];
``` I use them 1 at a time

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:51 PM

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read what I posted right above

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you can't pass true as third param

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:51 PM

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oh u cant?

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 PM

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@lone glade uhm

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animateSource

animateSource

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house animateSource ["Door_1_source", 1, true];```

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 9:52 PM

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yea i was gona say

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Since Arma 3 v1.65.138459 speed of animation can be altered with coefficient.

lone glade Jan 8, 2018, 9:55 PM

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oh, didn't see it was bool or number

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 9:57 PM

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😉

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:00 PM

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so ive been addding a hint to the bottom of my code,just so that ik syntax wise it worlks

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_this animateSource ["door_1_rot",0];
_this animateSource ["door_2_rot",0];
hint format["time %1",time];

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it hints the time,but still doesnt animatie the hangar, any ideas why?

queen cargo Jan 8, 2018, 10:08 PM

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tried different number for the phase?

tough abyss Jan 8, 2018, 10:11 PM

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look at the configs for the hanger you are tring to open

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:11 PM

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I could do that

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 10:12 PM

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+I guess the name is door_1_sound_source or something similar

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:12 PM

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and yea I did try diff phase 1

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numebrs*

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I found something that gives a list of all the animations

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animationNames

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and just used those strings

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animationNames

animationNames

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which should theoretically be available for use with animate command

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animateSource != animate

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 PM

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oh shit i need to go to class

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 10:13 PM

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AnimateSource uses the config entrys

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Thats why i mentioned: door_1_sound_source

edgy dune Jan 8, 2018, 10:23 PM

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Will try that and config hunting after my class xc

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Xd*

thorn saffron Jan 8, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Does setVelocityModelSpace change the speed smoothly or is it set to that speed at once?

jade abyss Jan 8, 2018, 10:27 PM

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at once

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 10:35 PM

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hmm

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I cannot add locations as editable objects for curator

thorn saffron Jan 8, 2018, 10:57 PM

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I remember there was some script command that smoothly changed the vehicle speed, can't quite remember what it was called

peak plover Jan 8, 2018, 11:07 PM

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:\

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setVelocity?

thorn saffron Jan 8, 2018, 11:20 PM

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private _veh = vehicle player; 
_targetSpeed = 200;
_vel = velocityModelSpace _veh ; 
_speed = 1;
waitUntil {
    if ((_vel select 1)> _targetSpeed) then {
    _speed = _speed * -1;
    };
    _veh setVelocityModelSpace [
    (_vel select 0),
    (_vel select 1) + ( _speed),
    (_vel select 2)
    ];
    (_vel select 1) == _targetSpeed;
};```
I get generic expression error in the if statment and the final check in the waitUntil

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the part that adds the speed works fine