I just said that using:
COSH(x) ((exp (x) + exp - (x)) / 2)
is nicer on the eyes than writing the two exponentials and the fraction every time. Fraction bars are always ugly in code.
#arma3_scripting
little eagle
lone glade
I wish we had a different sign for it
little eagle
atan2 is actually a thing in coding outside of sqf though. And I must say that whoever came up with the name did a great job.
I wish we had a different sign for it
If I ever make a language, it would use : for division, and / for the fraction bar. With the fraction bar being the lowest priority command of them all, and : being the same as *.
lone glade
"after the commy rose, now introducing CommyCode (CC)"
stable wave
Which namespace do variables in onButtonClick field exist in?
lone glade
wat
stable wave
I mean the onButtonClick attribule in the button control
strong shard
@stable wave you can use currentNamespace and isEqualTo
meager heart
I think he asking about wich varspace he need for he's script above, there he have just nothing_here getVariable
lone glade
no, his sentence still makes no sense
winter dune
If there is a function called A which spawns vehicles, if I remote execute it with for every player in the game, it will spawn 1 * number of players vehicles or only one?
lone glade
one for each player
winter dune
so you can actually make your server crash if you do this, nice
lone glade
you can make everyone crash, server included if you call a recursive func
winter dune
in this case, should be used createVehicleLocal if I want to remote execute that function for everyone except server
lone glade
wait, what
little eagle
currentNamespace getVariable default doesn't sound like a bad idea.
winter dune
i'll explain better with a sqf example
little eagle
If the goal is to crash the game, then you don't need to create vehicles.
winter dune
// Function A
createVehicle ... ;
// remoteExecCall
[] remoteExecCall ["functionA",-2];
That would create one vehicle per connected client, except the host.
winter dune
the goal is to optimize the life garbage ๐
little eagle
Looks more like a bug.
lone glade
or an offering to the fire gods
little eagle
I guess it depends on what the vehicle is that is created.
lone glade
unless it's a lightsource...
winter dune
but instead of spawning 1 vehicle, it spawns from 2 to 4 for each player
little eagle
If it's something that should be for every player, then it's ok I guess.
winter dune
yes, lightsource
createVehicle ["#lightpoint", getPos _vehicle, [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
that changes everything
little eagle
Except that it assumes dedicated server, which is dumb. Why would you intentionally make your mission not being debugable in SP?
lone glade
oh wait.... that's for "police lights" isn't it....
winter dune
yep
little eagle
No, it doesn't. #lightpoint is supposed to be created with createVehicleLocal.
winter dune
actually, now I'm realizing why you don't like life missions xD
little eagle
Not sure what would happen if you createVehicle (global) a local simulation.
Depends on how CV handles this.
It is very confusing though, and since confusing code = bad code, it's bad code regardless.
warm gorge
How would you go about go about creating an ingame banner sized texture over a plank of wood of some sort? Ive seen servers do it to place above shops but unsure how its achieved
lone glade
exact same way people do billboards or how the ACE slideshow works, setObjectTextureGlobal
warm gorge
Ah figured it out, thought it was some fancy way I didnt know of. Simply just using a user texture object with an image with transparency to give the effect that its smaller
meager heart
also there setFlagTexture if you need make custom flags
still forum
@peak plover It's not like the wiki says Return Value: Array for isFaltEmpty
@queen cargo Intercept math commands are already done. That was the first in Intercept-CBA
queen cargo
I know @still forum
thorn saffron
is there a single command to remove all items, magazines and weapons from an inventory?
peak plover
Sure the wiki says it, but the name kind of implies that it's a bool
still forum
Wiki > Name
peak plover
Q: Is this position flat?
A: [3541345,13451541,0];
Q: Where is this postion?
A: Yes
logic
still forum
For Arma. Yes
peak plover
I just spent hours writing a script and when i run it all it breaks, that was the reason
thorn saffron
shopInventory addItemCargo (getItemCargo box1)
Does not work for me, I have an idea why
I'm trying to transfer stuff from one box to another
getItemCargo returns 2 arrays one for the class name, and another for the number of that particular items
[["optic_Aco","acc_pointer_IR","NVGoggles","G_Tactical_Clear","H_HelmetB"],[1,1,1,1,1]]
still forum
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addItemCargo
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getItemCargo
True @thorn saffron They are incompatible
thorn saffron
I kind of worked out this myself ๐
peak plover
private _target = shopInventory;
private _cargo = getItemCargo box1;
{
_target addItemCargo [_x,((_cargo param [1])param [_forEachIndex]);
}forEach (_cargo param [0]);
I guess it won't run if I just put it in the console, right?
winter dune
is shopInventory and box1 assigned to your objects?
thorn saffron
yes
winter dune
try to hint them to be sure that they are assigned
meager granite
jade abyss
wtf @meager granite
austere granite
wtf lel
still forum
Have seen worse tho
meager granite
Having tabs for each level would've been a cherry on top of it
jade abyss
Hard to find something worse
still forum
meager heart
lol
still forum
Non-quiksilver stuff wasn't part of the challenge
jade abyss
@still forum
(don't come up with quakslivers stuff :smile: )
peak plover
That's where call {if()exitWith{}} would have helped
still forum
Non-quiksilver stuff wasn't part of the challenge
That would be a perfect example where one should use a switch
jade abyss
Now find something worse than that
In this case? Yeah, switch. For the sake of readability
peak plover
quicksilver stuff >๐ก
using ' instead of "
using private array
still forum
jade abyss
Not to you ๐
still forum
Worst publically visible script BI ever made
jade abyss
Still waiting for @peak plover 's answer
austere granite
i disagree with switch dscha
jade abyss
You're a french, aye?
austere granite
because you'd have to make it a switch (true)
jade abyss
inb4: ๐คฆ
peak plover
@jade abyss ' instead of " is good. But if he cars of that small helpful '. Why is he using private array? Everryone knows the array variant is slower
still forum
We already established that he is an idiot
austere granite
could also just make it a loop and use BREAKOUTTTTTTTTTTTT
jade abyss
You could also put a finger up your blackhole
thorn saffron
how do you make SQF syntax show up in discord?
jade abyss
```sqf
CODE
```
austere granite
#define DSCHAISLAME(var1,var2,var3) if (sd_xp >= var1) exitWith { sd_level = var2; sd_xpNeed = var3 };
call {
DSCHAISLAME(7000,15,8000);
DSCHAISLAME(6200,14,7000);
}
special commy method
still forum
It's good tho
thorn saffron
private _target = shopInventory;
private _cargo = getItemCargo box1;
{
_target addItemCargo [_x,((_cargo param [1])param [_forEachIndex])];
}forEach (_cargo param [0]);
{_cargo removeItem _x;} forEach (_cargo param [0]); ```
ok, so this creates copies of the items from the box1, but ```{_cargo removeItem _x;} forEach (_cargo param [0]); ``` does not remove the original items.bis arsenal is 3k lines 1 file
still forum
I would personally make an array of xp,level,xpneed and iterate till I find the right one
austere granite
yeah same dedmen
jade abyss
And? Nigel?
peak plover
still forum
@thorn saffron Does box1 have more than 1 of that item?
because removeItem removes one
and if you move everything anyway why don't you just remove all items
jade abyss
looks girlish
peak plover
looks girlish
You would know
jade abyss
Yeah, cause i know some girls ๐
still forum
@jade abyss You doo? Are they really as glibbery as everyone says?
peak plover
sooo true
still forum
Scooby doo
jade abyss
@still forum Depends on what you do to them ๐
Guess why some ppl call me DschadoMaso
(okay, noone does... but it sounds cool)
Anyway, @thorn saffron , what are you trying to achieve in the end +where does the Array come from?
inner swallow
you should call yourself dschinghis khan
still forum
@jade abyss If you read the code you'll see where it comes from
jade abyss
I already did, Dschangis Kahn
inner swallow
oh, i missed it ๐
jade abyss
@inner swallow https://i.gyazo.com/cc2998de628178854b4e4517d870c29d.png
Yeah, from 1 crate to another @still forum , still wanna know what he is trying to achieve
inner swallow
๐๐ฝ
thorn saffron
private _target = shopInventory;
private _cargo = getItemCargo box1;
{
_target addItemCargo [_x,((_cargo param [1])param [_forEachIndex])];
}forEach (_cargo param [0]);
clearItemCargo box1;```
works but if I use _cargo instead of box1 I get the generic error
```clearItemCargo _cargo;```because: _cargo is the ItemList
thorn saffron
duh
jade abyss
clearItemCargo box1```Ofcause you get an error if you do bullshit that doesn't work
also you don't get a generic error.
Read a few lines lower. Thanks
peak plover
This looks like the makings of a good life mod
thorn saffron
@still forum Hey, i have little idea when it comes to any kind of scripting
still forum
Read Biki. Always read Biki.
If you have little idea when it comes to any kind of reading too. You're screwed I guess.
We don't do anything different. We either read Biki or remember what is written there
thorn saffron
And how the fuck I'm supposed to know what exactly to look for
still forum
You are using clearItemCargo So I would look for clearItemCargo
You were using getItemCargo before. So I'd suggest looking for getItemCargo
jade abyss
jade abyss
it is, yeah. If you know the basics, it's pretty simple.
No need to memorize, at least not everything.
thorn saffron
Yeah cause I didn't look at it and I totally did not figure out that the return out of getItemCargo is 2 arrays that are incompatible with addItemCargo
still forum
Though granted the Biki isn't that good in explaining the basics. As in syntax. You can read the syntax on every commands page as examples. But it doesn't really explain that well why it is like that
jade abyss
Yeah Taro, thats a pretty big fk up by BI, in that case
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Welcome to scripting, thats a new layer of madness (compared to configs)
still forum
I don't know which idiot decided to put the counts in a seperate array.
But I also don't know which idiot decided on the save format of the Arsenal
jade abyss
save Format of Arsenal is? (too lazy to search)
still forum
But I know that KK is most likely responsible for get/setUnitLoadout which was good
save format of arsenal is "bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage","bandage",.....
jade abyss
dafork
still forum
get/setUnitLoadout is ["bandage",50]
jade abyss
Reminds me on the DayZ Databases ๐
still forum
getItemCargo is [["bandage"],[50]]
peak plover
class Item7
{
class data
{
class type
{
type[]=
{
"STRING"
};
};
value="rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855_Stanag_Tracer_Red";
};
};
class Item8
{
class data
{
class type
{
type[]=
{
"STRING"
};
};
value="rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855_Stanag_Tracer_Red";
};
};
This is the true power of arsenal
still forum
This!
jade abyss
@peak plover Remove the tabs pls
still forum
And that's why storing an array of duplicate strings is the best idea ever
thorn saffron
{
_target addItemCargo [_x,((_cargo param [1])param [_forEachIndex])];
}forEach (_cargo param [0]);
For me its hard to create stuff like this, often I just can't wrap my head around this kind of stuff
still forum
because not only that format is dumb. But also the way BI serializes Arrays is even dumber
still forum
{
_target addItemCargo [_x, (_cargo select 1) select _forEachIndex];
} forEach (_cargo select 0);
๐ก
still forum
Or if you want even easier
{
_target addItemCargo [(_cargo select 0) select _forEachIndex, (_cargo select 1) select _forEachIndex];
} forEach (_cargo select 0);
That's probably easier to understand
You just go through all items. Pick the name from the first array and the count from the second
peak plover
param is harder to understand than select? It's prety much the sam
still forum
pretty much the same but what better says select that element from this
this select that or this param [that]
The first basically says exactly what it does
thorn saffron
That I kinda figured out that I had to do it like this, the issue with scripting for me is HOW to do what I want
peak plover
Sure
I guess it depends on case and this case it's better to select
I still have some old stuff where I used select and then did isNil check ๐คฆ
still forum
Use the right tool for the job. Always.
param has no place in this job
candid jay
all, is there a way to retrieve terrain elevation under an object?
not the object elevation itself, the terrain level
fo instance if I want to set an object on the ground under a flying one.
inner swallow
you could do ASL - ATL or something
peak plover
Terrain elevation under a object?
inner swallow
they mean, if something is flying at 500m and the terrain height below the thing is at 350m, then they want to obtain 350m
candid jay
yes
inner swallow
i mean i suppose you could only get the X,Y coordinates of the flying thing
and for whatever you want to set under it, it just spawns at X,Y,0 ATL
candid jay
ok so that would be ATLtoASL [X,Y,0] for absolute, I guess
inner swallow
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i was thinking of a multi step process, but maybe that works too
not familiar with ATLtoASL
inner swallow
cheers
little eagle
@candid jay
all, is there a way to retrieve terrain elevation under an object?
getTerrainHeightASL getPosWorld _object;
@austere granite ๐ฉ
peak plover
What happend to your name commy
candid jay
thanks!
little eagle
Or do you mean the objects elevation above the ground?
still forum
It's a fake account. Some guy is pretending he is commy :U
little eagle
Now the tables have turned. : /
little eagle
- Get kicked.
still forum
but why
little eagle
๐ฉ abuse.
still forum
Can only get banned so. temp ban which auto removed groups then
You cannot abuse poo ๐ฎ
austere granite
i wish dedmen would get kicked for his shitty name ๐ฆ
tough abyss
No
grizzled spindle
Is there any difference between setVehicleLock and lock?
grizzled spindle
No I have read the wiki and it looks the only difference is one takes a number and one a string
rotund cypress
@grizzled spindle that is the difference between them
still forum
Just like the note that I told to read on the wiki page that I linked says
grizzled spindle
Well sorry if that rustled yall feather but i was wondering if there was somehting i missed. Like why create 2 functions that do the same thing? Anyway ill drop it now. Happy new year
peak plover
Made me physically furious. Happy new yearss
jade abyss
@grizzled spindle Don't ask for reasons, in 99% of the time.
still forum
One takes Enum as string which can cause enum errors. The other takes it as number.
both of these commands (not functions) are over 12 years old now.
and lock didn't take enum back when it was added. That was only added 2 years ago
So no one created 2 functions that do the same thing. Back when they were created they were doing different things.
10 years later one of them was extended so it can also do the stuff that the other command can.
queen cargo
@little eagle no longer blue? interesting ๐ค
tough abyss
One of us! One of us!
still forum
commy is still blue even if you don't see it
jade abyss
Yeah, he sobs the whole day
little eagle
Nah, but it's funny being asking by EVERYONE about it.
peak plover
poop abused ๐
little eagle
The ๐ฉ is dead, long live the ๐ฉ!
peak plover
how do you do that?
little eagle
๐ฉ
jade abyss
๐
subtle ore
Wow, much bulli
peak plover
Result:
0.219925 ms
Cycles:
4547/10000
Code:
{_x distance player < 150}count allunits;
Result:
0.0366 ms
Cycles:
10000/10000
Code:
count(allUnits inAreaArray [(getpos player),150,150,0,false])
rewriting old scripts is funny
tame portal
The question is, why is it that much faster? ๐ค
tame portal
Sounds right
austere granite
das bretty gud
tame portal
I would have thought its because theres more done in C++ without going back to SQF
little eagle
That's right. I was about to write that.
tame portal
Mine or nigel?
little eagle
You.
queen cargo
@peak plover @tame portal reason is because count actually calls the code which takes time
whilst the later just iterates over all elements in native code
tame portal
๐
austere granite
Bretty gud
little eagle
You essentially remove an SQF loop, for the price of one C++ loop. Which is much much better.
queen cargo
@tame portal arma also has one if you actually would use community tools ..
ArmA.Studio
tame portal
I meant an "official" one ๐
queen cargo
though ... the debugger currently is dead due to no interest in it and an update broke it
tame portal
I've used yours before
tame portal
Type your code into a terminal
little eagle
This warrants a poop.
peak plover
hahah
tame portal
๐ฉ
austere granite
sepErate
peak plover
separate
still forum
@tame portal Arma also has a official debugger. It's just BI internal sadly and they never published it.
lone glade
it's NOT:
defiantly
definately
definily or whatever other variation ๐ก
austere granite
like i would listen to someone that doesn't like Atom
little eagle
I've seen 5MB scripts.
tame portal
Definitely
peak plover
ASk quicksilver
lone glade
such a great editor
austere granite
So have I, and I choose to not have them
lone glade
what if you missclick a binary file?
tame portal
Bluescreen
peak plover
^
soooo tru
brain is having a fart
private _patrolWPs = missionNamespace getVariable ['ai_ins_patrolWPs',[]];
_patrolWPs pushBack _wpPos;
only works if the var already exists
peak plover
๐ค
little eagle
You need to setVariable this too.
austere granite
so use setvar
little eagle
Because the default isn't already attached.
lone glade
nope
little eagle
Yes.
austere granite
you do if it does the defaeult return
little eagle
^
little eagle
But he creates a new one in case it was undefined.
austere granite
there is no original if it uses default return
little eagle
And that one doesn't stick.
tame portal
but if it doesnt exist, it creates a new one but doesnt save it as a global var again
lone glade
oh, I was assuming it existed
austere granite
ASUMING
peak plover
Yeah It's got achance that htis will run before
austere granite
with extra S
little eagle
๐ฉ
tame portal
Asks script related question
Multiple people are typing
lone glade
learn to read?
little eagle
Well, this is the scripting channel.
lone glade
unless he's telling me to type assuming with three S ๐
peak plover
๐จ ๐บ ๐ท ๐ท ๐ช ๐ณ ๐น ๐พ ๐ช ๐ฆ ๐ท
Ofcourse we are talking about scripting and not poop or random stuff
lone glade
triggerring initiated
tame portal
I was pointing out that as soon as theres a question in the room everyone races to answer it ๐
Never seen that in other channels lol
peak plover
It's more of a competition
lone glade
because they're fairly easy to answer for everyone involved
little eagle
Make it a harder question.
lone glade
now, if commy asked some questions related to his sqf catenary mathemagics nobody would answer
little eagle
tfw so smart no one can answer your question
austere granite
i have that problem with UI now in arma ๐ฆ
lone glade
....
tame portal
Points intensifies
lone glade
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW COMMY WROTE A LOBBY IN 3 DAYS
and rested on the 4th ๐
(we don't have troll emojis, i'm improvising)
lone glade
thonking
queen cargo
the actual interesting part is getting the lobby working ingame
the actual coding is mostly just busywork
lone glade
literally sqf in a nutshell
little eagle
If I write something, and this might seems strange to you, it is implied that it actually works. EVEN INGAME.
lone glade
filled with bugs
peak plover
gibs me lobby lol
queen cargo
not sure what you try to imply @little eagle
austere granite
@little eagle you might want to make sure you add a thing that you can limit slots to a Donator tag
lone glade
ctrl+F in ui_F -> done
lone glade
where did I put my torch again...
little eagle
It's easy to expand for anyone with a bit of knowledge in sqf. Atm it's pretty bare bone.
austere granite
bit of knowledge in sqf
life
maybe you can implement the AltisLifeCoin crypto too to unlock slots
little eagle
I have P as a project in ST3. So all I need to do is to ctrl+shift+F if I want to find something in the games sqf source.
austere granite
Is ST3 some sort of atom package?
lone glade
burn him
little eagle
Kappa
lone glade
no blobs, no kappa, discord is clearly the inferior product
little eagle
Someone attach a ๐ฉ to this worthy post.
lone glade
commy blue power got absorbed by dedmen, in the end there can only be one !
little eagle
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/pull/6000
6000 Pull requests ๐
lone glade
I wonder how many i'm at
little eagle
Actually it's issues and pull requests, but shh.
little eagle
And the number of commits on master will double once medical-rewrite is merged.
lone glade
319 for commy
jade abyss
defenetely time for that.
edgy dune
question, how can I get the name of a object im looking at when I use addAction, im tryna make a force pull action cause why not XD
nopenvm
I got it
echo rivet
hey guys i'm wondering if you may have a solution for this. I'm spawning a function with a parameter. Is it possible to change that spawned function by calling it with [0] spawn _oxygenON; or how would you go about breaking the loop?
[1] spawn _oxygenON;
oxygen.sqf
_oxygenON = {
_state = _this select 0;
while {_state == 1} do stuff
i guess that would just be calling the function all over again
subtle ore
@echo rivet
while{_state == 1} do
{
if(_state == 0) exitWith
{
//exit current scope
};
};
omg kill me
subtle ore
Lol
queen cargo
it is noit @echo rivet
you probably gonna need an actual global variable
alternativly you could just take the spawn script handle and use terminate on it later on
spawn itself however, will always create a new instance of that (and not affect the existing instance)
worn igloo
I need someone to help me find the reason why my function isn't executing using the call command
worn igloo
Basically what this script does is create an ambient heli that is spawned randomly 3000 meters around the player. Then it moves across somewhere near the player. It works when executed via execVM but when I call it it doesn't execute. The function is defined.
ok
meager heart
๐
worn igloo
I tried calling the function with sqf _w = [] call a3e_fnc_AmbientHeli; but the code never executes
meager heart
Just first what i see private <array> and private <string> are deprecated
function is defined ?
where you call it ?
meager heart
is this exact how you call it ?
_w = [] call a3e_fnc_AmbientHeli
worn igloo
yes
meager heart
where ; at the end ?
meager heart
_w = [] call a3e_fnc_AmbientHeli versus _w = [] call a3e_fnc_AmbientHeli;
worn igloo
yeah ik I just typed it out quickly, it wasn't a copy paste
meager heart
so when you call it nothing happens or some errors ?
worn igloo
No errors are thrown that's why I'm so lost
execVM works perfectly fine keep that in mind
meager heart
then maybe something wrong in cfgFunctions
i mean where you define it and how you do it
meager heart
file name ?
worn igloo
functions.hpp
meager heart
no that function file name
meager heart
you have there
class CfgFunctions
{
class A3E
{
class drn
{
class DRN
{
class AmbientHeli {};
};
};
};
};
what is
class drn
{
};
hmm
not sure but all the other functions work properly
_w = [] call drn_fnc_AmbientHeli;``` Now that I think of it I might have been using this insteadI can't currently test my script bc I'm away from home and don't have access to arma, is there a way I can test it online?
meager heart
i don't think so
worn igloo
Dash was supposed to implement something along the lines
meager heart
Dash ?
worn igloo
yeah its an IDE for arma 3
meager heart
oh ok
still forum
SQF-VM could. But it doesn't have CfgFunctions
worn igloo
Is there some restrictions on compiling a block of code? Could there be anything preventing it from being compiled?
still forum
If you have a syntax error it won't compile
If you are still here in an hour I maybe can take a look at it. Maybe I'll see something
worn igloo
Right, the thing is I don't have a syntax error because the script runs perfectly ok with execVM. When you have the time take a peek. https://pastebin.com/vDR6H9Y3, fn_AmbientHeli.sqf. https://pastebin.com/bkACQKWT, functions.hpp.
still forum
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Functions_Library_(Arma_3)#Tag
Meaning your function is DRN_AmbientHeli not a3e
meager heart
yes I think you just need remove that subclass drn
meager heart
yes sorry
worn igloo
yeah I realized that earlier, I did infact call the function using sqf _w = [] call drn_fnc_AmbientHeli;
I was reading that if you have call return a something and the function doesn't return anything it will throw an error. Does this mean it could halt the function completely?
asking does this make a difference sqf _w = [] call drn_fnc_AmbientHeli; vs sqf [] call drn_fnc_AmbientHeli;
meager heart
i think it depends on where you are using it and how, if function not returning anything that not mean that it will throw an error
and error can hold anything i believe if just halt ๐
worn igloo
I'll just wait till I get home tomorrow and try again
meager heart
glhf
still forum
@ะะตะปะบะพะฝ#5567 I was reading that if you have call return a something and the function doesn't return anything it will throw an error. There is only one very rare case how you can make a function return nothing. And that thing is a bug in the script engine
@worn igloo
ivory ferry
I need a script to put in the debug console to damage the vehicle I'm in, what do I type?
still forum
(vehicle player) setDamage <damage>
ivory ferry
what value do I put in just for a little bit
scenic shard
has anyone been successful in making the player switch to another team and unit on death? (MP-mission)
scenic shard
I have tried to create a new unit by script and use selectPlayer _unit, but nothing happened.
also tried to join the player to a new group from the correct faction, but then it seems like respawning starts to freak out.
what I want to do is whenever a west player dies they change faction to resistance, and if they die again as resistance they just respawn as normal
rotund cypress
@scenic shard use createAgent command and not createUnit. (EDIT: selectPlayer should apparently work with createUnit as well)
selectPlayer _agent;```And also, thats not really possible with ArmA right now, you are all in different factions, Blufor, Independent, Opfor, Civ etc. I mean the closest you'd get would probably be to put everyone on civ and then just spawn them with different clothing.
still forum
Your player will always be the faction he selected in the slot selection. You might be able to find some workarounds to make other people believe he is of a different faction
little eagle
Easily doable with selectPlayer. If it doesn't work for you, you made a mistake.
scenic shard
hm ok, then I'll go back to that version and try to see why it didn't work
rotund cypress
If you post your createUnit code we can maybe help you a bit better.
drowsy skiff
@scenic shard post your code or pastebin link and that will help people here to spot obvious errors / make suggestions
warm gorge
Has anyone heard of an issue where players spawning sometimes become invisible and cant move until they relog?
rotund cypress
No.
That sounds quite strange.
Follow exactly what happens when they log in and you will most likely find an issue that comes with it.
@warm gorge
warm gorge
Yeah always get complaints but can never reproduce it myself
rotund cypress
Check your code before they log in / gets logged in and try to think what code can cause some of these issues.
echo rivet
hey, i'm trying to pass a bool value to this function using the following. But I get Error ==: type bool, expected number, string, not a number etc etc. I don't get why this doesnt work >.<
[[player, true], "A3W_fnc_oxygen", false, true] call A3W_fnc_MP;
to function
oxygen.sqf
private ["_player","_state"];
_player = _this select 0;
_state = _this select 1;
while {_state == true} do
{
_player setOxygenRemaining 1;
hint "Oxygen";
if (_state == false) exitWith {};
};
Did you try to read the wiki?
echo rivet
yeah i stayed up for hours last night trying to find whats wrong, tried different solutions
still forum
If you read that you'll know that you can't use == with bool's
And if you'd further think about that you'll notice that comparing bools actually doesn't make any sense
little eagle
What's the purpose of this?
still forum
Because bool == true is the same as bool
and bool == false is the same as !bool
echo rivet
while {state} do
... if (!_state) do
little eagle
What's the purpose of this?
echo rivet
because it gets stuck in the loop
still forum
Well yes
echo rivet
keeping the oxygen from dropping
rotund cypress
A3W_fnc_MP
still forum
Again
Scroll all the way down and read the last note
waitUntil only exits if you exit with true. You however exit with nil which is not true
also.. Your exitWith doesn't even make sense because if _state is not true it will exit anyway
rotund cypress
There is no waitUntil in his script
still forum
And you also never set _state to false
SQF isn't magic. Variables don't magically change their value
echo rivet
think i bit off more than I could chew, im quite new to scripting in arma
still forum
Yes there is no waitUntil. Didn't even see that
still forum
@echo rivet Where do you set _state to true?
little eagle
So this is for a diving mission - not addon - that's supposed to make the player be able to hold breath forever?
echo rivet
@still forum I pass true from [[player, true], "A3W_fnc_oxygen", false, true] call A3W_fnc_MP;
echo rivet
until I change it
lone glade
it's not even that
still forum
@echo rivet Where do you change it?
lone glade
it's not BI_fnc_MP
still forum
That was what I originally wanted to ask. when you set it to false not true.
echo rivet
later in the code with [[player, false], "A3W_fnc_oxygen", false, true] call A3W_fnc_MP;
warm gorge
Why is this be ing remote executed
rotund cypress
Most likely a copied function from BIS_fnc_MP though @lone glade
still forum
You are calling the function a second time with a different parameter
that doesn't change the first instance of that function
why do you set the servers oxygen on serverside anyway?
rotund cypress
@echo rivet I would say use a global variable instead, if you want the loop to ever end, you need to set that to false somewhere
warm gorge
I dont think its serverside if hes passing player
warm gorge
Nevermind I didnt read the code properly, my bad
rotund cypress
Tbh, I think the player needs to be local in order to set the oxygen
little eagle
This is like 5 lines of code if done properly. No idea why you're all making it so complicated.
still forum
Again a reason why it doesn't make sense to remote execute it
rotund cypress
^^
lurre_globalVar_state = _initialState;
while {lurre_globalVar_state} do
{
player setOxygenRemaining 1;
hint "Oxygen";
};```ok so here is the code I use to try and switch side:
player addEventHandler
[
"Killed",
{
params["_oldUnit"];
if (side (_unit) isEqualTo WEST) then
{
private _group = missionNamespace getVariable "indGroup";
if (isNil "_group") then
{
_group = createGroup resistance;
missionNamespace setVariable ["indGroup", _group];
};
_newUnit = "B_RangeMaster_F" createUnit [position _unit, _group];
selectPlayer _newUnit;
}
}
];
seems like a unit is created fine but I dont get control over it and get sent to the respawn screen
echo rivet
i read it was best practice to execute such scripts serverside to prevent hacks
rotund cypress
@echo rivet read my paste above
little eagle
Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
rotund cypress
Then just change lurre_globalVar_state to false whenever you want to end it
still forum
@echo rivet You should stop caring about "best practices" that some idiot told you if you don't even know the basics
Doesn't make sense to think about security if your code doesn't even remotely work at all
little eagle
@scenic shard I immediately see that you use createUnit wrong:
NOTE: THIS SYNTAX RETURNS NO UNIT REFERENCE!
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/createUnit
So of course you can't use selectPlayer if you don't have the object reference.
rotund cypress
Also, oxygen is not really something that is critical to have very secure.
echo rivet
@still forum yeah that makes sense
im just in it for the learning, its' a pretty useless script even if it works ๐
rotund cypress
@echo rivet did you see my snippet?
rotund cypress
_initialState is a parameter
little eagle
That code needs some breaks though. No point in resetting the players oxygen 12 hundred times per frame.
still forum
just use a waitUntil instead of a while
little eagle
^ this tbh
rotund cypress
Why?
still forum
Because waitUntil only loops once per frame
little eagle
1 code block, not 2.
scenic shard
@little eagle aw crap, thanks!
still forum
while loops forever until 3ms are filled
echo rivet
could sleep it for a couple of seconds, it takes a while to drown
still forum
Or maybe 10k executions. but I guess the 3ms is reached first
rotund cypress
Or if (oxygenRemaining < 0.1) then {setOxygenRemaining.......};
@echo rivet
Instead of sleep
little eagle
You will always drown with this if the player has low enough fps, and enough other scripts are running, because the scheduler is ๐ฉ.
rotund cypress
You could use a waitUntil block as these guys said, but then inside the while loop
Also now when I think about it, pretty pointless to have an initialstate parameter so you could remove thath @echo rivet
Just set the lurre_globalVar_State to true at the top
Also, I would recommend to not have this running all the time, but rather if (surfaceIsWater position player)
little eagle
That check is probably worse than just using the setter anyway every time.
rotund cypress
Maybe even using onEachFrame for this
Wouldnt really help if the player has low FPS though
little eagle
Dunno, if he never experiences the scheduler falling asleep with your setup, who cares. Hard to motivate people for edge cases if it means they have to use their brains abit.
Don't think you can drown between frames ๐
rotund cypress
That is most likely true, hehehe, but they could if their FPS was really really low and it checked for getOxygenRemaining.
I suppose.
little eagle
No, because you'd reset it.
Even if the simulation is slow, you reset it every frame.
rotund cypress
I didn't mean reset each frame, but check each frame
if (getOxygenRemaining < 0.1) {setOxygenRemaining...};
little eagle
You mean like the frame is so long that it's enough for oxygen to reach zero, and we assume the check to kill you happens before sqf?
rotund cypress
Something along those lines ๐
little eagle
Pretty sure other things start breaking down at 0.1 FPS.
little eagle
Could be tested if it actually happens. I still have my doubts. I bet oxygen reduction is slowed down with simulation time.
rotund cypress
Would be fair.
austere granite
The actual damage script is in an FSM I think
rotund cypress
Ayy, that would make sense.
Except for AI stuff though, what actually is a good use of FSM? I've never really used it much.
little eagle
Everything that operates in states, I guess.
still forum
lone glade
^ for real state machines
little eagle
I like how the first example is showing something that could be implemented in SQF without the FSM editor.
As a design concept it's fine, but the actual FSM editor and .fsm files are horrible.
fickle field
join the chat someone
little eagle
Y-you just tagged a random person.
still forum
Discord didn't even show me when I wrote the mention
Discord says there is no "someone" so I thought I could post
echo rivet
Ok thanks for the input everyone. Here is the fully functioning script. It will be available for admins on a wasteland server.
if (isDedicated) exitWith {};
if ((getPlayerUID player) call isAdmin) then
{
if (isnil "OxygenSwitch" ) then {OxygenSwitch = 0};
if (OxygenSwitch == 0) then
{
OxygenSwitch = 1;
OxygenRefill = true;
while {OxygenRefill} do
{
player setOxygenRemaining 1;
hint "OxygenON";
sleep 10;
};
}
else
{
hint "OxygenOFF";
OxygenRefill = false;
OxygenSwitch = 0;
};
};
admin aboose
echo rivet
tss ๐
scenic shard
when I exec this part from the debug menu I spawn a new unit and take control of it as it should. but when it's wrapped in a killed EH I die and respawn as normal.
any idea how to fix it?
private _group = missionNamespace getVariable "indGroup";
if (isNil "_group") then
{
_group = createGroup resistance;
missionNamespace setVariable ["indGroup", _group];
};
_newUnit = _group createUnit ["I_Soldier_A_F", getMarkerPos "respawn_west", [], 0, "NONE"];
selectPlayer _newUnit;
because the respawn code is ran after the killedEH
scenic shard
is there any way around that, or any way I can disable the respawning for that unit. as it is no longer the "real" player unit and should not be used anymore
little eagle
set the respawnTime to 0.1 and use respawn event instead?
scenic shard
hmm, is it possible to have different respawnDelay's for different factions?
little eagle
No.
scenic shard
ok, should be fine anyway. just need to duplacate all the respawn markers for both teams.
unborn mauve
Modify the existing fields with your units, vehicles and groups.
In the initVar.sqf, when the files are compiled and called, add a condition to run your files when a condition is met.
Load the game with the mod of that faction.```Any idea how I could do this?
Antistasi trying to change the faction from CSAT to NATO
Am a total noob when it comes to scripting so bear with me
little eagle
@still forum
15:22:56 [0,310.372,0,"XEH: PreStart started."]
15:24:09 [0,383.486,0,"XEH: PreStart finished."]
Do you see how bad it is?
lone glade
70ms ain't bad
little eagle
70 seconds, alganthe.
still forum
@little eagle did you profile how much of that is ACE?
little eagle
All minus 2 seconds.
still forum
Do you want me to add that to my profiler? Log the compile time for EVERY compiled script?
So you can find what scripts take the longest?
little eagle
It's preprocessFile, not compile.
still forum
preproc is cheap tho
little eagle
Hence, preprocess at addon build.
Well that is what you all keep saying, but the numbers don't add up.
still forum
How about you compile at addon build? :3 Dats awsm
little eagle
No ACE, duh.
tough abyss
ye
little eagle
2 sec preprocess / compile for CBA looks right.
still forum
Maybe I'll do that when I can dev again
little eagle
Though even that could be sped up.
still forum
not even onsite
well..
I have a offsite backup off some of that stuff
but I deleted that after moving it away
peak plover
did you lose anything important? ๐ฆ
still forum
so it's only theoretically a backup of some of the stuff
not yet
It isn't fully dead yet
peak plover
sucks ๐ฆ
peak plover
Hey ace people need quick tip
I converted the ACE3 settings to cba settings
where does I put them ?
lone glade
from a mission?
peak plover
For server
cedar kindle
build the template that comes with cba
https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/tree/master/template/cba_settings_userconfig
winter dune
why does this code throw a missing ; error?
_lightSource = createVehicleLocal ["#lightpoint", getPos _vehicle, [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
did you copy-paste that or typed it off?
what about the lines above/below that?
need more context
still forum
How do you know that exactly that bit throws the error?
winter dune
_vehicle = vehicle player;
_lightSource = createVehicleLocal ["#lightpoint", getPos _vehicle, [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
this into the debug console
still forum
okey
Well. I see that your code is wrong and absolutely won't work like that
but I don't see a missing ; error in there
still forum
yes
yes it is
The error message usually shows exactly where something is wrong
AHH
I see
winter dune
before [
still forum
the createVehicleLocal command doesn't exist
subtle ore
๐ค
still forum
There are 3 types of commands nular (0 arguments), unary (1 argument), binary (2 arguments)
and there is no unary form of createVehicleLocal
jade abyss
unary?
still forum
meaning the game falls back to reading that as a variable. So you have written
_var = _var2 [array]
which doesn't make sense obviously. So the compiler uses the universal "missing ;" fix
@jade abyss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arity
still forum
I always like saying how it really is although that confuses everyone. But it's how it is. That command doesn't exist.
A different command with the same name does exist. But that one in the code doesn't
jade abyss
still forum
yes
jade abyss
๐ค
still forum
"A different command with the same name" could confuse people. As most people assume "same name == same command"
jade abyss
Creates an object of the given type. ๐ค confus0rt what you mean with "not the same command"?
still forum
There is no "createVehicleLocal ARRAY"
A command exists of name and number of arguments
The createVehicleLocal 1 argument command doesn't exist
jade abyss
Ah, you mean != same syntax's available
still forum
but there is a createVehicleLocal 2 argument command that does exist
subtle ore
You really confused that to no end Dedmen lol.
still forum
Syntax is part of the command
jade abyss
dfsgndsfngdnfsgndfsgn
still forum
They are not seperate
subtle ore
Yes, that isn't of any confusion.
still forum
Like
- ARRAY
and ARRAY + ARRAY
Completly different commands
But most people would say it's the + command. But it really isn't
jade abyss
Are you drunk? ^^
subtle ore
I honestly thought you were implying that createVehicleLocal was createVehicle just with local effects applied
still forum
no ^^ Just a Intercept dev that knows how Arma works
jade abyss
But yet, the command createVehicleLocal is there ๐ค
still forum
The binary command createVehicleLocal exists.
The unary command createVehicleLocal doesn't exist
jade abyss
You overcomplicate stuff atm
still forum
nular/unary/binary is part of the command's identity
That is how things work in the engine. It's the reality
jade abyss
Yet, you overcomplicate it^^
still forum
I'd say that's needed to understand why it complains about a "missing ;" when you just missed an argument
subtle ore
"Cookie_F" createVehicleLocal _cookiePos:
//real
"RaisinCookie_F createVehicleLocal[_pos]
//not real
Is that what you're trying to say?
still forum
no
subtle ore
Or? I am confused
jade abyss
I think everyone is atm
still forum
"Cookie_F" createVehicleLocal _cookiePos exists
createVehicleLocal _cookiePos doesn't exist.
subtle ore
That was never in question?
still forum
That is what caused the error though. So.. I'd say that was in question
subtle ore
In what way? An array was used as the right param?
still forum
He used a syntax that doesn't exist. Which is some kind of wrong
No. He only had one parameter
There is no createVehicleLocal command that takes one parameter
jade abyss
Yep
still forum
Arma has 3 tables of script commands. 0, 1, 2 arguments.
He had a command with 1 argument with the name createVehicleLocal.
So Arma sees "Hey! 1 argument" so it looks in the table for commands with 1 arguments.
That table doesn't contain a createVehicleLocal command. Thus it doesn't exist
jade abyss
And again, you overcomplicate and confuse ppl, when you write: the command xyzdoesn't exist.
still forum
But that's how it is
jade abyss
furry
still forum
And that's why Arma tells you "missing ;" instead of "invalid argument"
subtle ore
๐ฟ
jade abyss
Just type: Wrong Syntax.
ppl get that quicker and easier, than your binary,unary, whateverarty stuff from above.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
still forum
Okey yeah. The syntax was wrong. Here is how it would be correct:
_lightSource = createVehicleLocal;
["#lightpoint", getPos _vehicle, [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
Just like Arma recommended to you in the error message
still forum
no
It could add a unary createVehicleLocal command though with same syntax as createVehicle
Which would make the error go away
subtle ore
Useful? I guess?
still forum
IMO createVehicle and createVehicleLocal should support the same kinds of arguments
subtle ore
/shrug
still forum
But this is Arma.
jade abyss
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
still forum
Intercept won't be only on the server if you also use it on the client
subtle ore
Well is there any indication as to why it wasn't so to begin with?
still forum
Some BI dev was too lazy/forgot/didn't think about it
subtle ore
Heh
jade abyss
aka "never needed it"
jade abyss
I mean, the initial Version was the same, just the Alternative Syntaxes are different
subtle ore
Right
jade abyss
Syntax:
type createVehicle position
type createVehicleLocal position
subtle ore
Just why not make it consistant?
still forum
Then find the guy that forgot to update createVehicleLocal and throw some old newspapers at him
subtle ore
Old newspapers? Hot coffee, he'll remember weeks after to get into gear
quasi thicket
@little eagle - It didn't work ๐ฆ
winter dune
_vehicle = vehicle player;
_attach = [[-0.37, 0.0, 0.56],[0.37, 0.0, 0.56],[-0.5, 2.1, -0.95],[0.5, 2.1, -0.95]];
_lightBlue = [0.1, 0.1, 18];
_lightleft = "#lightpoint" createVehicleLocal (position _vehicle);
_lightleft setLightColor _lightBlue;
_lightleft lightAttachObject [_vehicle, _attach select 0];
_lightleft setLightBrightness 0.2;
still can't make it work properly, everything seems to run without any error, but I still can't see anything. It is supposed to create a blue lightpoint.
the funny thing is that with createVehicle, it works
with createVehicleLocal nope
I'm retarded and need sleep
thanks to all your replies before
still tricky to me with all this fancy stuff
tough abyss
Table indexโs start at 1 k bye
quasi thicket
Ok, i'm gonna ask here as well
How do i move a group of players, into a vehicle on a dedicated server
because i can NOT get it to work
I currently used this setup, and it only moved a few people into the vehicle:
4 groups named alpha, bravo, charlie & delta and 2 vehicles names plane1 & plane2
subtle ore
@winter dune Is this being executed on a client? Server?
candid jay
any ideas why [_foreman] remoteExec ["SCAR_UCM_fnc_addActionsToForemanLocal", 0, _foreman]; run on server, does not call SCAR_UCM_fnc_addActionsToForemanLocal when a player dies and reenters game?
_foreman is an invincible AI.
little eagle
You use another function with foreman as id, that replaces this one?
candid jay
no this is the only one.
little eagle
Well, JIP is only executed if you join in progress. They probably never disconnected from, the game.
candid jay
settings are respawnOnStart = -1; respawn = 3; respawnDelay = 5; respawnDialog = 0; respawnButton = 0;
ok but then they should still have actions
my issue is that actions on foreman are lost.
and i have no clue
little eagle
How many of these foreman there may be?
little eagle
Then just use true as JIP flag, and consider this syntax to be broken.
Wouldn't be surprised.
candid jay
i have the same issue with other ai, and those can be killed
little eagle
addActionsToForemanLocal is CfgFunctions?
candid jay
itโs one of those moments where i really want to uninstall arma and set it on fire
yes it is.
little eagle
So you're saying if I do:
{
diag_log [clientOwner, _this];
} remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_call", 0, cursorTarget];
as local host, it will print on a second machine, but not if I go back to lobby and reenter?
That is something that can be tested.
Btw., again. If you use the same object as JIP flag twice, you will overwrite the previous RE from the JIP stack.
So this syntax is in any case really shitty for this
subtle ore
Is it possible script a gear dialog open for vehicles like you can a player?
little eagle
Since no vehicle weapons or mags have icons, I'd say no.
subtle ore
Well no i am talking as if the player were to open the inventory of the vehicle to see their MX for example whilst out of the vehicle
little eagle
Just press G/I and switch from container to "player" or something like that. Done that before.
subtle ore
So workaround time? Lovely
little eagle
I don't get what you mean. You press G/I and there's your inventory?
Where's the workaround?
subtle ore
scripted
little eagle
So I assume just opening the dialog the normal scripted way doesn't work?
candid jay
do you know if variables set with setVariable and global are set on clients before init.sqf is called on them for JIP?
little eagle
Pretty sure they are.
Who knows. init.sqf is always a toss.
This works for me. Second array on the right was before I (the unit looked at) returned to lobby and reentered.
So it was executed again.
Note how I used player as JIP id, and it just reported it's netId. I'm 99% sure you just re-use the id in a second script and it overwrites the previous function from the stack.
halcyon crypt
You went back to being a noob? ๐ฎ
little eagle
๐ฎ
halcyon crypt
the veteran tag ๐
halcyon crypt
lol
candid jay
i am not, itโs running only once on server. oh well.
little eagle
I can't reproduce then.
little eagle
Probably. Looks fine for me. Sometimes it converts to jpg, and on jpg it's always hard to read texts.
{
diag_log [clientOwner, diag_frameNo];
} remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_call", 0, player];
Was the code.
candid jay
do you mind pasting that code here so i can see it?
little eagle
Done.
little eagle
Executed locally on the host.
Back to lobby: frameno updated, owner the same
DC from game: frameno updated, owner incremented by 1.
So it always executes again.
little eagle
Using mods? Maybe a mod uses RE with jip id.
little eagle
Just make a small framework out of this. Put all RE functions in an array and setVariable public them. Then on client, walk through that array on all units or something.
This RE syntax is wonky anyway.
candid jay
ok
zinc forum
Hey, can anyone help me with (what I think to be) a small project? I'm trying to figure out someway to make an ingame chat command or something where you can type in a password to gain access to curator or become a moderator. I'm a very novice scripter so while I have the idea in my mind, I don't know how to create it.
Yeah, I know that, but what if you wanted a second zeus that wasn't admin? Since you can only have one admin on at one time.
tough abyss
hmm then no clue
zinc forum
Couldn't there be way to trip some sort of trigger that assigns curator to the player who triggered it?
Using game logic and an outside script?
If this is typed then call upon code elsewhere?
I really don't know.
little eagle
Using mods?
zinc forum
No, trying to do this for my unit's public server, but I can use mods for regular operations
little eagle
I think this is a two part problem. First to make custom chat commands, second to assign a curator by script.
Both of which are possible. But don't know where your problem is.
zinc forum
The issue I havve is I have little idea how to do it. I don't know how to script it.
little eagle
Both steps?
zinc forum
๐ฆ
Most of the scripting I'm doing right now is searching online for code and editing it as I go
little eagle
Oh boy.
zinc forum
It's working so far, we're making an annex and invade. I just don't know the syntax or the functions to use
little eagle
It's working?
zinc forum
What I've been doing, the annex and invade, I've gotten a teleporter script to work and an automated gate script.
but I haven't gotten anywhere with this because I don't know where to start
zinc forum
I was looking online and found something for custom chat commands, but I wouldn't know how to use it to assign a curator by script
little eagle
// '#skipTime 12' will make it night
["skipTime", { parseNumber (_this select 0) remoteExec ["skipTime"]; }, "admin"] call CBA_fnc_registerChatCommand;
You mean this? Because it requires CBA / mods.
But it would make one step easier for sure.
zinc forum
wow
Thanks, I didn't know about that
So if you change "skipTime" to something else and type it in while CBA is active, it will make you admin?
Would there be a way to directly add curator without becoming admin? I mean not that it matters to much because you could have a MCC zeus then a second zeus using this method (or atleast I'm assuming you can).
little eagle
Something like this is how you add curator by script:
// init.sqf
if (isServer) then {
commy_ZeusGroup = createGroup sideLogic;
commy_fnc_assignCurator = {
params ["_unit"];
private _logic = commy_ZeusGroup createUnit ["ModuleCurator_F", [0,0,0], [], 0, "NONE"];
_unit assignCurator _logic;
};
};
And this is how you'd execute it on client:
_unit remoteExecCall ["commy_fnc_assignCurator", 2];
Wait so how does this work?
little eagle
Creates a zeus module and assigns the passed unit to the zeus module, which means Y can be used to open the curator interface etc.
zinc forum
_unit is a global command right?
little eagle
No, it's a local variable, but close.
zinc forum
So if I have this in the init of a unit, then they can become a curator?
little eagle
Well, _unit would have to be this for the init box.
And I guess the init box is executed on every machine already, so the RE part should be adjusted to not spawn a ton of curator logics for no reason.
zinc forum
Isn't this the same as creating two game masters and making units the owners of the module?