#arma3_scripting | ARMA | Page 402

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:52 PM

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And yet, you can't create Slots for JIP Players sherbRIP

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:feelsBadMan:

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:52 PM

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Well, my lobby "can".

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:53 PM

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When the mission.sqm has enough Units placed down before.

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So it doesn't count 😄

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 2:53 PM

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every unit is extra size

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I guess you gotta have a mix somewhere

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:53 PM

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yo mama is an extra size

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 2:53 PM

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can't just put down 1000 units

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Does it count if all you have to do is to execute:

100 execVM "setup.sqf"

once in 3den and then to export the mission?

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Yep

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Doesn't count

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ingame, on the Server, create new Slow, that would count.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Does it matter what units there are placed

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

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Rest is scripting fkery 😦

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No, Nigel

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As long as it's marked as "playable"

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 2:54 PM

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so true

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:55 PM

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But you don't need playable units if you use createUnit selectPlayer.

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:55 PM

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To create a lobbyslot? You need one

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:55 PM

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Depends on which lobby you use.

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:55 PM

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I wanna punch you

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The ordinary lobby, when you connect to a Server.

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:56 PM

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Just script your own lobby. Takes 2 days.

jade abyss Dec 28, 2017, 2:56 PM

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I wanna punch you again.

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And again because of... reasons.

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 2:57 PM

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Sure, a single command would be nicer. But just compare the wait times: 2 days for your own implementation, and 10+ years and counting for something from the base game.

lone glade Dec 28, 2017, 2:57 PM

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should be around 3-4 for A4

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:20 PM

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_obj = [_this,0,ObjNull,[ObjNull]] call BIS_fnc_param;
_myStr = [_this,3,"",[""]] call BIS_fnc_param;

How am I suppose to use params instead of the bis function?

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I mean, how can I tell to params that the fourth element is _myStr and the first one is _obj ?

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I'll do it like this

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:22 PM

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delete this

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:22 PM

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params [
    ["_obj",objNull,[objNull]],
    ["_myStr","",[""]]
];

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or is wrong?

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:22 PM

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params [
    ["_obj", objNull, [objNull]],
    "",
    "",
    ["_myStr", "", [""]]
];

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:22 PM

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👌

quartz coyote Dec 28, 2017, 4:24 PM

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@little eagle sent you A PM is you have a few minuts

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:30 PM

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Yes, I had to search for the displays config in the all-in-one config, and I had to write the sort script. >.<

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:42 PM

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what's the difference between

{isNull player}
isNull player

?

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or are they the same

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:43 PM

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first is code

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Code

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/typeName

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typename code

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:44 PM

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{isNull player}
is a glorified string known as CODE
and
isNull player
is a BOOLEAN.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:44 PM

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👌 👍 👆

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:45 PM

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I think this is part of a bigger code snipped where the question would make more sense (lazy eval?).

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:45 PM

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apparently lazy eval is bad in arma?

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Performance wise

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Only use it in isNil "_blah" && {}

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:46 PM

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No, it's not. People just don't know how logic works and do flawed tests.

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I had this discussion a million times. Get's tiring after a while. Last time I explained this to ulteq and after an hour, he now is on my side in this.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:47 PM

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!(_x getVariable ['nig_perf_cached',false]) && {!(_x inArea [player,(_dist/3),(_dist/3),0,false])}

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:47 PM

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The "nig" tag cracks me up.

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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still can't understand why the fuck do I have to use {} if I have to get a boolean as an output. Code where I found this

if ( isNull player || { isNull player } ) then { do Magic Tricks };

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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cheap condition && {expensive conditon}

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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That code snipped makes no sense.

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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i know

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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You're checking the same thing twice.

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 4:48 PM

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guess where I found this 😄

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:49 PM

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if (!isNil {player} && {!isNull player } ) then { do Magic Tricks };

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:49 PM

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See: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/a_or_b "Alternative Syntax".

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player is never nil/undefined, unless you broke your game.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:49 PM

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yeah well _unit

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:49 PM

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Sure, that's different.

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You know what also helps, nigel?

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:51 PM

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hmm?

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:51 PM

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if (!isNil "_unit" && {!isNull _unit}) then {

->

if (!isNull ([_unit] param [0, objNull])) then {

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:51 PM

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😂

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 4:52 PM

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@peak plover [nigel,lifetime] call nig_sendToJail /shrug

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:53 PM

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life

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:53 PM

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#define lifetime 9999999

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 4:53 PM

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He has it

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The lifer code

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He just doesn't want to admit

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:54 PM

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😨

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l-l-l-lying

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n-n-n-not life

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:54 PM

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I believe it.

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 4:54 PM

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Nigel, pull yourself away from it

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You can recover

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 4:55 PM

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Anyone has a decent heli extraction script? I made a few attempts but they doesn't work properly

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Or make some blufor npcs ignore combat

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:56 PM

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Better get a real player to fly the heli.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:56 PM

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hire a china to do it

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disableAi 'AUTOCOMBAT';
setbehaviour 'CARELESS'

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 4:56 PM

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The problem is that there is a combat so either it never lands or it lands and leave too fast

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Thanks, I'll try that

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:57 PM

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If you want them to still be able to shoot, get behaviour safe or aware

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but autocombat is must

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enableAttack false

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is also probably good for u

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 4:57 PM

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I see, okay

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:57 PM

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Ignore combat is like:
group1 setCombatMode "BLUE";
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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setCombatMode

setCombatMode

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 4:58 PM

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deleteVehicle _unit;
no unit no problem
¯\(°_o)/¯

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:58 PM

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I don't think just careless makes them not fire, but I guess disabling autocombat fsm does.

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 4:58 PM

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Wtf is that nigel

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 4:59 PM

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It is an attempt.

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¯\(°_o)/¯

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 4:59 PM

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😑

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 4:59 PM

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I see, hope this works, is the last thing I need to do

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:00 PM

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carless should (injtheroy) disallow autocobmato

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 5:00 PM

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Idk, if you want them to never fire, and there is a command that has a parameter "BLUE" (Never fire), then I'd try that personally.^^

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:01 PM

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Well

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if ur heli wont land

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planting a invisible helipad can help

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 5:01 PM

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setDriveOnPath for helis?

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 5:02 PM

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🤔

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 5:02 PM

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I can set the behavior only on the heli driver, right?

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:02 PM

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setDriveOnPath has z

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so maybe it works

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 5:02 PM

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so it ignores combat while the gunners fire

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:03 PM

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behaviour is group

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 5:03 PM

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oh

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rip

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 5:03 PM

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Or unit, which then makes it apply to the whole group.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:03 PM

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U can make him solo group

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 5:03 PM

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If setting a behaviour on an individual unit is required, it can be achieved by creating a temporary group, use joinSilent to make the individual unit belong to that group, then change his behaviour, use joinSilent into the original group, then delete the temporary group.

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😂

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I somehow doubt this works.

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:04 PM

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same

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 5:04 PM

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It's on the wiki, so it must be true, right?

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 5:04 PM

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I think if it's set to the group the unit will use the other grou´behaviour

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:04 PM

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🤥

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I want a wiki account already

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I have very important note to make

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2018 witll be crazy if they fix wiki accounts

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can't wait

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 5:11 PM

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@peak plover Do you not have a bohemia acount?

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:12 PM

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I do but it does not work on wiki

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 5:15 PM

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@peak plover Wiki -> Log in (top right) -> Bam

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 5:17 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Special:Bohemia/registration/stop

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redirects me here

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 5:18 PM

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Oh

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You tried after the temp acc restriction

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Dwarden said he'd restrict new accounts til the new year

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Bot spam

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:15 PM

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We'll see then new yera

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:16 PM

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rip

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wouldn't be surprised if people were trying to bot accounts to grow their units pages

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:17 PM

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unit pages are broken

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still beta

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 7:18 PM

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@eager prawn Well in this case it was just a bunch of spam bots sending links. Don't think it ever got around to changing things

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:18 PM

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ah okay

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:18 PM

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ohh nvm

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may be fixed now

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:18 PM

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I mean

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units pages work

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they just don't work well 😃

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:18 PM

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It used to be that >200 or so units it stopped owrking

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:19 PM

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but its hardly a priority considering they are working on tanks dlc

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my unit got limited at 500 members

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then the limit got either raised or removed, because we havent hit it yet

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 7:19 PM

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I think they have a team for web thohgh

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:20 PM

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Busy working on arma 4 units

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or maybe dayz lol

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:21 PM

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oh well, we're probably a bit offtopic here though, #community_units 😉

little eagle Dec 28, 2017, 7:21 PM

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This is the #offtopic_scripting channel.

subtle ore Dec 28, 2017, 7:21 PM

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😉

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:24 PM

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scripting is actually the topicless offtopic

eager prawn Dec 28, 2017, 7:25 PM

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must mean that FM never reads the channel 😃

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 7:25 PM

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ANah, FM is smart he gets it

digital pulsar Dec 28, 2017, 8:10 PM

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whats an elegant way to convert 1/0 into true/false

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 8:14 PM

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selecteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

digital pulsar Dec 28, 2017, 8:15 PM

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yeah, of course, array index

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meanwhile i came up with sth like this boolFoo = intFoo > 0

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 8:22 PM

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alt of select

winter dune Dec 28, 2017, 8:39 PM

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#define TRUE 1
#define FALSE 0

no?

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 8:50 PM

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yes

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 9:35 PM

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@Foley#1330 better:
bool = int != 0;
“Zero/Non-zero” = (False/True)

abstract shuttle Dec 28, 2017, 9:35 PM

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Good evening everybody! Does somebody has an Idea how to change the color of an "button text" while hovering over the button?

austere granite Dec 28, 2017, 9:35 PM

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change the config entry for it in description.ext

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 9:37 PM

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@abstract shuttle colorBackgroundActive in config

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@abstract shuttle or ctrlSetActiveColor

abstract shuttle Dec 28, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Thank you in advance! 😃 I'll try it out! 😃

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 9:38 PM

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Oh fc, text not background

abstract shuttle Dec 28, 2017, 9:39 PM

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Yeah... I'll try to change the color of the text on a button...

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 9:42 PM

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@abstract shuttle don’t know how do this in config, but you can use two event handlers “MouseEnter” and “MouseExit”, with ctrlSetTextColor

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@abstract shuttle try color2 or colorActive in config

abstract shuttle Dec 28, 2017, 9:56 PM

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Okay, thank you very much mister! 😃 That means I need to change it in every dialog. :b

austere granite Dec 28, 2017, 10:03 PM

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INHERITANCE

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 10:03 PM

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👆

austere granite Dec 28, 2017, 10:03 PM

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I'd ping you and explain it, but you have a shitty ascii name so NOPE

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your loss 😉

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(inb4 you can do rgith click mention)

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:06 PM

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@Adanteh#0761 or someone can explain how inheritance works on Arma?

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if it's not too complex

austere granite Dec 28, 2017, 10:06 PM

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See can't tag me either

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2pro

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:07 PM

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pr0

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 10:08 PM

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@hoary copper https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Class_Inheritance

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:09 PM

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oh thanks

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always forget the wiki

austere granite Dec 28, 2017, 10:11 PM

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How to not suck at arma modding.

Use the wiki a lot
Have a lot of time on your hands
Ignore people with blue names
4)???
5)PROFIT

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 10:12 PM

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How to not suck at scripting

param
macros
don't do it

tough abyss Dec 28, 2017, 10:15 PM

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What do macros do again?

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I know they are for config

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I think

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 10:16 PM

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@tough abyss not only for config, for scripts too

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 10:17 PM

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Macro are preprocessor stuff

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#define FALSE true

if (FALSE) then {
    hint 'Gucci gang':
};

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Preprocessor replaces false with true

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It makes life easier rly

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 10:20 PM

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Macros just replace one text with another text at compilation time:
#define PI 3.14
#define ADD(A, B) (A + B)
...
sum = ADD(PI, 10);
...
After compilation:
sum = (3.14 + 10);

tough abyss Dec 28, 2017, 10:22 PM

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..... Wow... And with that, that's how people make dialogues and not have to edit individual config classes?

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Like on a bigger scale?

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:23 PM

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where do I put my #define tho?

tough abyss Dec 28, 2017, 10:23 PM

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Init works

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:23 PM

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anywhere is ok?

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 10:23 PM

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kindof

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you can only use it where preprocessor is used

tough abyss Dec 28, 2017, 10:24 PM

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I use #include to organize my scripts

peak plover Dec 28, 2017, 10:24 PM

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http://ofp-faguss.com/files/ofp_preprocessor_explained.pdf

tough abyss Dec 28, 2017, 10:24 PM

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So not everything is in the injt

hoary copper Dec 28, 2017, 10:25 PM

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cool stuff, haven't used it yet

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my mission is pretty much a mess

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but it almost works, so it's fine

strong shard Dec 28, 2017, 11:04 PM

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About define... what do you think: what will be in result?

#define MY_CONST “aaa//bbb”

myVar = MY_CONST;

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:12 AM

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Script error, because of the wrong quote marks?

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 12:47 AM

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Hey guys, does players become a null object when being killed for a short period of time?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:47 AM

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No.

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Corpse until respawn.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 12:52 AM

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What do you mean? @little eagle m

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:53 AM

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player becomes the corpse after killed, until you respawn, and then it becomes the new body.

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Well, "becomes the corpse". It stays the same body as it was before, but now it's a corpse.

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Corpse is just a body with !alive.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 12:54 AM

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yeah but If im doing isNUll player before respawn

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just after being killed

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:55 AM

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Then it reports false? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 12:56 AM

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It appears that the parameter unit passed from the onKilled eventhandler is null in servers POV

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 12:57 AM

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It might seem different with differnet respawn types

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but seems like it's kinda the same all the time

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:04 AM

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But killed is executed on the local machine only.

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There is no servers pov, unless the unit belonged to the server, in which case there is only the servers pov.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:08 AM

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Well, I meant if the player object is sent to server.

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However it appears its just the name that cant get

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:08 AM

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There is no killed event on a dedicated server for players.

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So you're talking about something else?

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:09 AM

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Im talking about sending the player object to server

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I get an error when I try to use name as Error: No Unit

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:10 AM

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name has always been like that for dead units.

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It does not mean the object is null.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:10 AM

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It was just an assumption i made

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Yeah, it's wrong. But justified from the stupid warning of name.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Fucking bohemia

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:12 AM

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Error type: Number, expected: Number, Not a number.

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 1:15 AM

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i do like how somehow the magical command bar does know the name of units still

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:16 AM

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Engine solution maybe?

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Wouldn't be surprised if it's profileName being continously broadcasted from each client :kappa:

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:17 AM

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It's hard coded.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:17 AM

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As in engine solution?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:17 AM

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It's not the profile name though.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:17 AM

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I know, that was a joke 😄

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:17 AM

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As in engine solution?
Yes.

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But name itself is also an engine solution on it's own, so ideally they'd follow the same logic. But they don't.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:19 AM

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When doing getPlayerUID player on the guy who is killed

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(on server)

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it reports back as <NULL-object>

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So it seems that it is actually NULL

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Let me test further

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:21 AM

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diag_log [_killed];

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:22 AM

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yeah which reports the object variable of that unit...

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so its fairly strange

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It appears its only at certain times

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:22 AM

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Then the answer is that it's not null.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:24 AM

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They are NULL to the server though it seems

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:24 AM

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What are you trying to achieve?

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:25 AM

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It doesn't matter, however, right now im just logging deaths. And no do not say log on client side.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:26 AM

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diag_log [_killed];

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yeah which reports the object variable of that unit...

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Not null.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:26 AM

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On client, no, or its just really fast

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There is something weird going on

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:26 AM

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I meant you should do diag_log [_killed]; on the server.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Yeah im doing it now

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Good.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:27 AM

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Yep, NULL on server

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https://gyazo.com/ad967889b73f9bbac67d5f06b10cce76

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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It may be a problem on how you pass it to the server.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Its passed through a public variable eventhandler

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But I doubt that is where the problem lies

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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THEFUCK

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Yeah, and there may be a bug in there.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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why the hell are you using throw

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jesus christ

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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Why not?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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because it's stupid

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:28 AM

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^ this tbh

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:29 AM

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Why is it stupid though? 🤔

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:30 AM

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Bannable offence

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:30 AM

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Armed assault command that wasn't used and shouldn't be used

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it's from a failed attempt at adding javascript* support....

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:31 AM

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Still, why not use it?

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Like something being null when it shouldn't would be an exception

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:33 AM

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check where the # is

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right before throw

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on top of using this command (that imho should've been removed along with try and catch) your syntax is wrong

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:34 AM

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Whats wrong with it?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:35 AM

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huh, they somehow thought adding a new syntax to it was a good idea;...

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:36 AM

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Whats wrong with MY syntax though?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:36 AM

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it should be inside a try catch block

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:36 AM

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Why should it? I don't need to handle all thrown exceptions of course

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If I want to recover, THEN sure I can try catch it

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:37 AM

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Whats wrong with it?
It's a worse if-then-else.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:37 AM

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just stop using this horror and use if then else like everyone else

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:37 AM

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Goto Mk2.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:37 AM

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the whole thing is a failed attempt at adding javascript support, AGES ago, it's one of those commands that shouldn't be there

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along with some of the TKOH ones that don't do anything

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:38 AM

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I thought you said Java support? 🤔

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:38 AM

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corrected^

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:42 AM

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Either way, you haven't provided one argument for not using it except for it being a failed attempt on javascript support. I mean its pretty standard practise in all other languages.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:45 AM

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I don't see any of the a3 functions have this

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Go through the new DLC functions

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Nothing

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It's definatley not a standard practice in arma

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:46 AM

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I didnt say it was standarrd practise in arma

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:46 AM

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That's a reason not to use

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:47 AM

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If you go and look into the functions_f PBO, you want to go neck yourself regardless.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Dlc functions are more okish

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Tasks functions not so much

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Send me a hastebin of one

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:49 AM

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until you get to tac-ops

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:49 AM

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Haven't seen that yet

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:50 AM

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and then you realize all the senior devs didn't touch those

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Interns lol

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:50 AM

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yes, interns

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:50 AM

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Senior Devs > SQF > Wot?

meager heart Dec 29, 2017, 1:52 AM

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if (alive this) throw "u wot m8"; //-- nothing happens 
if (alive this) throw hint "u wot m8"; //--- u wot m8

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:52 AM

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if (alive this) throw hint "u wot m8"; //--- u wot m8

#

error

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:52 AM

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needs to be in a try catch block anyways

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:53 AM

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hint is evaluted before throw, and since hint reports nil, the if will never do anything.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:53 AM

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@lone glade it doesn't??

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:53 AM

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No error, but the code is just a long version of:
hint "u wot m8";

meager heart Dec 29, 2017, 1:53 AM

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https://gyazo.com/2539c8c22967e03b5a85fd80ec3315d1

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:53 AM

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it does

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:54 AM

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sldt1ck, ignore these two and just read what I wrote (carefully) and you'll see what happened.

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Point is, this will also print the hint if the object was dead.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:54 AM

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Ehm @lone glade it will throw an unhandled exception and then dont continue further

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:55 AM

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No, it won't.

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hint is evaluted before throw, and since hint reports nil, the if will never do anything.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:55 AM

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Im not talking about his snippet

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:55 AM

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OK.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:55 AM

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but if (true) throw "true"

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will not require a try catch block

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:56 AM

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see:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Exception_handling

#

also realize

Armed Assault

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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That doesn't mean anything. It's bad even if it were introduced a week ago.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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@lone glade do you code any other language than SQF?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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🤦

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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Cause then you would know how throw and all that works

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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Just keep digging

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:57 AM

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Yea, I'm sure the problem is just that alganthe doesn't know how it works...

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ttc makes shitty code. Hard to read and slow. No reason to use it. End of conversation. There's nothing to add.

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Before fraudsters like X39 chime in.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:59 AM

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try {
    call _fnc_hi;
} catch { hint _Exception; };```

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 1:59 AM

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Thanks for proving my point?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 1:59 AM

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are you going to use the oo functions next?

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because yes, those exist..... for some reason

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 1:59 AM

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I looked at those, made me wanna go kill myself.

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name of guy how could he even do that shit, like what was he thinkinmg

meager heart Dec 29, 2017, 2:02 AM

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0 spawn {sleep 2; player setDamage 1; waitUntil {!alive player}; if (alive player) throw hint "u wot m8";}; //--- u wot m8

And commy is right 👌

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:02 AM

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the fuck is that horror

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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^^

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why would u ever do throw hint ...??

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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no

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wtf

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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Should give you an error

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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that's the first thing you notice?

meager heart Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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lol

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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really?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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Should give you an error
No, it doesn't. For the third time.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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I know

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But it should

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:03 AM

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Ah, prescriptive should, not descriptive should.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:04 AM

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^^

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But again

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We all know who made this game

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:05 AM

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there's a very high likelyhood that the person who made that attempt at adding javascript into RV1 isn't working there / didn't work on A3

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:09 AM

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Prescriptive should vs descriptive should is a bug in the English language, and we should therefore move on to EnEnglish for the next iteration of the American presidency.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:09 AM

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EEnglish

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german is now the lingua franca of the world, time to change all those var names

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:11 AM

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german is now the lingua franca
lol what?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:12 AM

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I see you haven't heard the news, germany nuked china and the US, it now controls the world

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everyone needs to wear knee high socks and sandals now

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:16 AM

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Im not mistaken thinking people can mess with the memory to change their uid so getPLayerUID gets a different UID?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:16 AM

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you can't

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:17 AM

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Sure you can.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:17 AM

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UID is your steam64 ID

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:17 AM

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I always check on server just because of this.

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Since they cannot compromise it on server.

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I guess(??)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:17 AM

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The only way to have a secure is server is to administrate it. I thought people figured this out by now.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Administrate it?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Moderate.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Have someone on it H24

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Have an admin on, kicking the cheaters.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:19 AM

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Yeah, because getPLayerUID doesn't go through server if used locally right?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:20 AM

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Dunno what else to answer.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:21 AM

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Well you could answer my question (if you know of course) 😃

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Can s1 make a dll that screenshots player screens during gameplay?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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yes

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Cheat suspision? sends screenshot to admin

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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you can even send the screenshots somewhere else if you want

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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snapchat the cheaters to admins

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:23 AM

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but I seriously doubt that's a good idea / legal

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Well you could answer my question (if you know of course)
Ok then:
Yeah, because getPLayerUID doesn't go through server if used locally right?
Has nothing to do with what I wrote.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:24 AM

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Ah okey

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But I mean always good practise to do server side check of player id I suppose

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the admins on server of course

meager heart Dec 29, 2017, 2:25 AM

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Btw there is https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/screenshot

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:25 AM

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But you do what you can to secure your mission in the first place amiright?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Sure.

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But I'd avoid adding placebo checks just to make you feel better about stuff, idk.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:29 AM

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anti-cheat
Just don't play with cheaters

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:30 AM

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Yes it can be spoofed

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And checking on server is a good solution

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@lone glade When were they attempting to add 'javascript' support?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:31 AM

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Never.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:31 AM

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promised for a3

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:31 AM

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No.

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Java != js

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For starters.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:32 AM

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what is it

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:32 AM

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The Java stuff is still buried in the engine I think (Dedmen?). But I'm not seeing how their try/catch commands were part of that attempt

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:33 AM

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ah, I was right the first time, it was java not javascript

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:33 AM

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They weren't.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:33 AM

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it's from Armed assault (arma 1) so go figure

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it isn't part of that attempt?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:34 AM

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But why bring that up if it doesn't change anything?

#

It may have been inspired I guess. Java has ttc, right?

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:34 AM

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Almost every language does

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Just seemed peculiar you instantly associated the command(s) with their Java attempt

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:35 AM

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I really thought it was, since they updated them in A3 (recently)

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:37 AM

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😂

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:37 AM

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They only updated throw, but they did the same to breakTo, so what does that matter?

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breakOut, not breakTo. Sry.

rotund cypress Dec 29, 2017, 2:38 AM

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I really don't see the problem..

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:39 AM

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With ttc?

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:39 AM

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breakOut has it's uses that no other commands provide tho

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:40 AM

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If you say that, then the same is true for throw.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:40 AM

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we use breakOut in the zeus module ^

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like, a lot

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:40 AM

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Both make ugly code.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:41 AM

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scopeName "Main";
private _fnc_errorAndClose = {
    params ["_msg"];
    _display closeDisplay 0;
    deleteVehicle _logic;
    [_msg] call FUNC(showMessage);
    breakOut "Main";
};

switch (false) do {
    case !(isNull _unit): {
        [LSTRING(NothingSelected)] call _fnc_errorAndClose;
    };
    case (_unit isKindOf "CAManBase"): {
        [LSTRING(OnlyInfantry)] call _fnc_errorAndClose;
    };
    case (alive _unit): {
        [LSTRING(OnlyAlive)] call _fnc_errorAndClose;
    };
};

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:42 AM

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if (...) exitWith {
    if (...) exitWith {
        if (...) exitWith {};
    };
};

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:42 AM

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Thanks for proving my point.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:42 AM

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i'd still consider that readable compared to the alternative

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Using breakOut in a return like style is quite elegant

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Especially when nested in quite a few scopes

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:43 AM

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Especially when nested in quite a few scopes
Well, there's your initial problem.

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:43 AM

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I use it for recursive calls that are looking for a certain value

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Like through a treeview or so

#

Is what I used it for today

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:44 AM

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Nothing wrong with being a few scopes deep

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:44 AM

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So breakOut / throw are band aids for bad code.

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:44 AM

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As long as it doesn't look like that 15k file posted here a few days ago

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:45 AM

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Breakout there makes sense to me? I mean this was the first time I used it in my current code in a lot lot lot of functions

#

I agree it has a habit of making things look ugly though

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:46 AM

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^ this's all I'm saying.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:47 AM

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I agree with that

#

but there's extremely rare occasions when you need to use it

#

unlike ttc

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:47 AM

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Same with exitWith, if I understand your reply as one to me, BoGuu.

#

And you, alganthe, used breakOut essentially as return, so I guess that's a good use for it.

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 2:50 AM

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silentspike did it first 😛

#

I also used it a single time outside of those zeus modules, as a return too in garrison

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:50 AM

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The ACE Arsenal mission has 5 spawn.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:51 AM

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😱

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:52 AM

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It's down to the user whether they choose to write 'ugly' code with breakOut, because in its most simple usage, it can be far from it (return)

#

Perhaps we should talk about breakTo instead

#

Because I'm hungry for spaghetti around now

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Sure, write what you want. Make a 5 MB script, but don't expect people to defend it.

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:53 AM

#

Lel

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:53 AM

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Who writes 5MB scripts?

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:53 AM

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I do

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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Dunno, forgot what the size of the thing was.

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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I wrote a cryptominer in SQF

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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Oh right, that 15k line thing

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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LMAO

#

What

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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I use it to mine while people play on my life server

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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That crashed my chrome when I opened it

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:54 AM

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😄

#

That's why life mission 30 mb

#

All the bc miner

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 2:55 AM

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It's funny how there can be half of ACE in one file.

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:56 AM

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If life server developers can write miners in SQF, they should get a job with better pay

#

Because they deserve it

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:57 AM

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😂

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:58 AM

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Gotta do an ico for Arma Life Coin

#

Will support microtra sanction between server

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:58 AM

#

Did you see Dogecoin is now worth 1 cent?

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:58 AM

#

whot

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:58 AM

#

🤑 LifeCoin

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

That is impossible

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

It's a fact unless changed

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

And I made it so yo have to process yep transactions yourself to send it

#

Two*

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

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The market cap was 1 BN* or so

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

btc ~12k

austere granite Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

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Iota ain't got nothing on me

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

Btw BUY

#

BUY

#

100k in 2018

lone glade Dec 29, 2017, 3:02 AM

#

liar

#

you're saying that because you're dumping to invest into sqfCoin

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 3:03 AM

#

Normies ruin everything 'tho

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 3:04 AM

#

Hold onto your butts:

#

LifeCoin

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 3:05 AM

#

CSATCoin - Iranian currency in 2035

#

MillerCoin - US/EU currency in 2035

dusk sage Dec 29, 2017, 3:06 AM

#

BohemiaCoin

#

Constantly crashing

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 3:06 AM

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😂

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:06 AM

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19:47:02   Error position: <select 0)];} forEach R3F_LOG_CFG_can_tra>
19:47:02   Error Generic error in expression
19:47:02 File mpmissions\__cur_mp.Tanoa\R3F_LOG\init.sqf, line 46```

#

Could anybody explain this error to me? The code it's mentioning doesn't even line up with the line number.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:14 AM

#

Line numbers have pretty much always been broken.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:15 AM

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Check above the lines, prob is somewhere there

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:15 AM

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Need to see the whole code to figure this one out.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:16 AM

#

That also

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:16 AM

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My guess is, that _x is not an array.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:17 AM

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Thought the same but: Wouldn't that cause another Msg popping up?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:17 AM

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I'll try in a minute.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:17 AM

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aye (i can't remember the Messages anymore^^)

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:17 AM

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It's the RF3 script int.sqf within RF3 log

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:18 AM

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Link?

#

Pastebin it?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:18 AM

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One second, I'll get it pastebin

#

https://pastebin.com/yYd2vPqS

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:20 AM

#

1 select 0
Generic error in expression.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:20 AM

#

Yep, then prolly not an array

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:21 AM

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What is R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:21 AM

#

What is a generic error expression exactly? Sorry not a coder, but trying my best to fix it.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:21 AM

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Just a generic error.

#

Dunno how else to say that, lol.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

#

You try to select something from an array, wich is not an array

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

#

Something something param.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

#

2014, ouch

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

#

What is R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo?

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

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* Copyright (C) 2014 Team ~R3F~
copyright XD

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:22 AM

#

Digging for the source of it.

#

I know it's a function.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:23 AM

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Just use the debug console inside the mission preview to retrieve it.

#

R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:23 AM

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print out what R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo is
diag_log [R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo];

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or systemchat

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:23 AM

#

copyToClipBoard str R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:24 AM

#

Many ways lead to rome ¯_(ツ)_/¯

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:26 AM

#

Can't find it even with Agent Ransack T-T

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:27 AM

#

With who?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:28 AM

#

It's a program that can look into folders and search all program files for key words

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:28 AM

#

sherbFellow

#

wot

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 7:28 AM

#

Like a grep?

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:28 AM

#

What are you searching for?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:28 AM

#

R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:29 AM

#

Go ingame

#

type the code we posted before

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:29 AM

#

In the debug menu?

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:29 AM

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print out what R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo is
diag_log [R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo];
systemchat str [R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo];
copyToClipBoard str R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo```
Select one of them from above

#

Of course, yeah

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:29 AM

#

https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/images/8/86/A3_console_mission.jpg

#

Debug Console.

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 7:34 AM

#

I like your message but the fact you're not using the Ui colour from the beta is upsetting

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:34 AM

#

T-the link is from the wiki?

#

I'm still using that orange.

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

What can I use to upload a image?

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

imgur?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

imgur

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

👍 Commy

#

btw. what ya thinking about my name today, Commychan

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

Beautiful.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:35 AM

#

aww, thank you

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:36 AM

#

I also liked "Dschanghis Khan".

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:36 AM

#

My personal Favs still come

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:36 AM

#

Can't wait.

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:36 AM

#

https://imgur.com/r2tyGz5

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:37 AM

#

?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:37 AM

#

copyToClipBoard str R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo

#

And then ctrl+v it here.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:37 AM

#

add str between it or use copyToClipboard (as commy wrote)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:37 AM

#

You also need to start your mission.

#

Doubt it is in the VR.

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:38 AM

#

aH, my bad

#

paistbining it now

#

https://pastebin.com/LQyCLrmy

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:47 AM

#

That looks right, did the same original error happen while testing?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:48 AM

#

Yes, after talking to my partner we are thinking another set of scripts is effecting it in some way.

#

Issue is we don't know exactly when it happened, as we never messed with this file.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:49 AM

#

Ye, if you mess with R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo in ways not intended, it could break.

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:51 AM

#

Could it be effected by external other mod/scripts?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:51 AM

#

Yes, if they mess with R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo.

#

Or if there's another script error before that.

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:51 AM

#

It would have to specificually call or use that name convention right?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:51 AM

#

What?

outer fjord Dec 29, 2017, 7:52 AM

#

Like for another script to interfear with it, it would have to use something that actually names R3F_LOG_CFG_can_transport_cargo as part of whatever it runs?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 7:53 AM

#

Actually, hold.

#

["land_misc_cargo1ao",110],"smallboat_1","seafox","pbx_acr","boat",["aav",8],

#

I see these elements in the array.

#

And that's wrong.

#

"smallboat_1","seafox","pbx_acr","boat"
Those don't belong there. There is another script that modifies the array and appends it with these broken entries.

#

And that is why it says "Generic error".

#

Another mystery solved. I'm grabbing something to eat.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:58 AM

#

Oh yeah, right commy

#

good boy @little eagle Here, have a treat ☕

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 7:59 AM

#

wait why are those classes even in a3

#

bc they're not in the game

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:59 AM

#

Mods?

#

maybe?

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 7:59 AM

#

Nah they're original a2 classes by the looks of it

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 7:59 AM

#

You don't wanna know wich names i've seen (and used 😄 )

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 8:00 AM

#

oh no

strong shard Dec 29, 2017, 8:00 AM

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@little eagle
About define... what do you think: what will be in result?

#define MY_CONST “aaa//bbb”

myVar = MY_CONST;

// in string will be interpreted as a comment:

#define MY_CONST “aaa

myVar = “aaa;

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 8:00 AM

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Give it a test

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I doubt it though, because you're defining it as a string

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 8:01 AM

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what speaks against?

myVar = “aaa//bbb”;```

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Should work, maybe... idk... idc

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also searching food

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 8:02 AM

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It should

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Good scavenging dscha

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To define as plaintext you don't use quotations

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It's a major advantage of #define over a=b

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because a=b doesn't support plaintext

strong shard Dec 29, 2017, 8:05 AM

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@jade abyss if you not use define - all works good, but if you would define string with // in define...

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 8:07 AM

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then: Why use define?

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 8:11 AM

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^

strong shard Dec 29, 2017, 8:13 AM

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@jade abyss why use define. define - easy way to define constant in all scripts and configs. Curr i am use format for avoid this “error”

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:21 AM

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I feel like I was answered this before. It would result in a script error, because “ and ” are invalid characters.

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Also: “aaa//bbb” is not a string

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This: "aaa//bbb" is a string, because it begins and ends with ".

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This: "“aaa//bbb”" would also be a string. Same reason.

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And no, // are not cut off inside strings.

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The reason why your example is cut off, is because “aaa//bbb” is not a string. Because it doesn't start with quote marks.

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Only " and ' are quote marks.

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“ and ” are different characters that appear like quote marks, but aren't actually quote marks.

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I hope this settles this.

meager granite Dec 29, 2017, 8:31 AM

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Looks like preprocessor treats comments like comments even inside preprocessor lines

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#define MY_CONST #(aaa/*test*/bbb)
myVar = MY_CONST;

myVar = (aaabbb);

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:32 AM

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That is because you used #.

meager granite Dec 29, 2017, 8:32 AM

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Same with quotes

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Pasted wrong test actually, meant to post quotes

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#define MY_CONST "(aaa/*test*/bbb)"
myVar = MY_CONST;

to

myVar = "(aaabbb)";

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parenthesis don't matter either, just been testing to see if it does any difference

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:35 AM

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Which preprocessor is this?

meager granite Dec 29, 2017, 8:35 AM

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preprocessFile\LineNumbers

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Its not like other commands use something different

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:37 AM

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Never encountered this with addons.

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Trying...

strong shard Dec 29, 2017, 8:39 AM

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For my arma 3 it looks like this: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/906779173773135918/99895DE4964B18A0AFA239CAAD55AC15E620C857/

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:40 AM

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Same.

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But now explain those weird quote marks.

meager granite Dec 29, 2017, 8:41 AM

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Typed into Microsoft Word before pasting here (lol), which likes to turn quotes into special ones?

strong shard Dec 29, 2017, 8:41 AM

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@little eagle it is “ from ipad keyboard

meager granite Dec 29, 2017, 8:41 AM

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#define MY_CONST "aaa/*test*/bbb"
var1 = MY_CONST;
var2 = "aaa/*test*/bbb"

var1 = "aaabbb";
var2 = "aaa/*test*/bbb"

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Looks like preprocessor commands exclude comments regardless of being inside string (quotes) or not

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#define CONCAT(A,B) A##B
#define TEST #CONCAT(aaa/,/bbb)
var1 = TEST;

var1 = "aaa//bbb";

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This is how you'll need to do it then, I guess

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 8:48 AM

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#define SLASH /
#define MY_CONST 'aaa##SLASH*test*SLASH##bbb'

myVar = MY_CONST;

I came up with this.

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#define MY_CONST 'aaa##SLASH##SLASH##bbb'

For the other thing.

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Though I found that glue (##) is annoying to work with, because some chars require it, other don't (like *).

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I was waiting for you yesterday, Dedmen.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 9:16 AM

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@winter dune CTP==FPS. Yeah servers are locked to 50 fps but you can unlock it using my patch
@little eagle command calls with nil get silently ignored. I completly understand because Nil != SCALAR or whatever the accepted parameter type is. But did you ever try that with a command that takes ANY?
Maybe I should just check what it does instead of asking you :U would probably be faster
@pastel cloakuu#1044 Yes Java is still in engine. I don't understand your reference to try/catch
@jade abyss Check above the lines, prob is somewhere there the code snippet is always correct tho. Just the line number might be off. And that generally only if you have a #include after a multiline comment.

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Sorry @pastel cloak I meant @dusk sage and Discord is a useless piece of shit that everyone should just stop using

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@little eagle Why tho? Was sadly hooked into family christmassy stuffz

pastel cloak Dec 29, 2017, 9:20 AM

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It happens my dude, all g

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 9:22 AM

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Not good at all. It's so annyoing that Discord can't get their crap together :/

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 9:54 AM

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Because of exactly what you just did. Someone has to talk sense into this insanity.

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The only times command provided with nil does not fail silently, is if they are nil's inside arrays:

group player setGroupId [nil]

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Then it says "type ANY, expected STRING".

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But if the lhs and/or rhs arg is actually nil, not an array with empty element, then it always fails silently.

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Something I haven't quite figured out yet is why:

hint hint "fuck the police";

prints, and fails silently, but:

hint hint hint "fuck the police";

prints and fails with error message.

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I guess that's why:

[hint "", hint hint ""]
[<null>,nothing]

unary nil reports "nothing", not "nil", and feeding "nothing" is noisy.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:03 AM

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I have the perfect thing to test that

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Just look at how the calls are ordered in assembly

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:04 AM

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Seems like GROUP type nil: [group nil] is also noisy when fed to other commands.

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But I think that's just the type check:

[group group nil] // Generic error
[units group nil] // [array]

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So stacked nil are silent as long as the types are correct.

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And commands that report nil don't report nil when fed with nil, but nothing.

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I wonder if there is a technical difference between the nil-return commands nil "<null>", and the ordinary nil.

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[hint "", nil]
[<null>,any]

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Besides string representation.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:08 AM

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nil has a type

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your second nil is a nil of type ANY. the first one maybe doesn't have a type?

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Or it's just a empty GameValue

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That's a nil without a nil

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:08 AM

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Ah, any is ANY type?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:08 AM

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yes

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A nothing (Not the var=value nothing) is a empty GameValue and thus doesn't have a type

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:09 AM

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Didn't consider that ANY is actually implemented as a type on it's own, but that makes sense.

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Also explains why it's shown as any.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:10 AM

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{hint hint hint "fuck the police";}

push string ""fuck the police"";
callFunction hint;
callFunction hint;
callFunction hint;

{hint hint "fuck the police";}

push string ""fuck the police"";
callFunction hint;
callFunction hint;

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hm

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:10 AM

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I think the stack it pushes to is more interesting for this.

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[group nil]
[00000000031B7690]

Did we ever figure out why certain typed nil's are shown as memory addresses?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:11 AM

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The first one might error because hint returns Nil if it has a valid string. and returns Nothing with a invalid string.
In the first example the second Hint returns nothing. so the third get's nothing as argument and fails

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:11 AM

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assumption: first one prints, exits nil
second one takes nil, fails silent
third has nothing to take, fails explicit

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that is exactly how it would work in sqf-vm

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:11 AM

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I don't know if you did. If a Type doesn't have a name it shows it's memory adress

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:11 AM

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or more: sqf-vm would not fail silent at all

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[HINT]: fuck the police
 hint hint hint "fuck the
      ^^^^
[ERR][L1|C6] RUNTIME: EXPECTED RIGHT PARAM TO BE OF TYPE STRING
Finished in 7 instructions```

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:14 AM

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And no the stack pushes are not interesting at all

callNular nil;
callFunction group;
makeArray 1;

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:15 AM

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[nil,hint "",hint hint ""]
[any,<null>,nothing]

So,
any is nil type ANY;
<null> is nil typeless; and
nothing is empty GameValue?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:15 AM

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yeah.

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Not perfectly sure about the typeless nil. But I can't check right now because my HDD is deadish

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:16 AM

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It's weird that it can be typeless, but I have no better explanation.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:16 AM

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not that weird

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:16 AM

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I'd guess a default constructed (c++) Nil is typeless

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:16 AM

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You'd think they'd make it the same as the return value of the nil command, but oh well.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:17 AM

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return GameValue(GameDataNil(GameTypeAny)); //nil of type any
return GameValue(GameDataNil()); //nil without type
return GameValue(); //empty gameValue (nothing)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:17 AM

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Yep.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:17 AM

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The problem is the devs write these returns manually

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So it depends on whatever dev wrote that sqf command and his style of default return value

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:18 AM

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Now I wonder if the assignment constructor is also nothing or an entirely different beast.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:18 AM

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different beast

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missing value on the stack

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:18 AM

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How can there be something missing on the stack? Empty stack?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:18 AM

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you just do not push anything to the stack then @little eagle

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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Wouldn't it carry over the last value, or is my understanding of it wrong?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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your understanding is wrong

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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You can imagine it like

endStatement; //Clears the stack
push string ""fuck the police"";
callFunction hint; //Takes 1 value from the stack and pushes back it's returned value

endStatement; //Clears the stack
callFunction hint; //Takes 1 value from the stack... wait.. It's empty...

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wait I'll edit that message.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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can explain further if youre interested

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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Yeah, so it's empty and my understanding is right.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:19 AM

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There

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I always leave that out when pasting assembly. But in this case it's important

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:20 AM

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I wonder why it doesn't ctd if it errors there.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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why should it ctd?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Because there is a special check for it before every command call

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Doesn't seem like something handled by sqf exceptions.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Instead of just pulling from the stack it does actually check if there is something on it

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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And throws a script error.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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And throws a evaluation error

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😄

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Jup.

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Makes all sense.

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Well it doesn't, but in the forensic sense it makes sense.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:22 AM

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The optimizer could also detect empty stack btw. And fix it. But probably a bad Idea to do so because a optimizer shouldn't change visible behaviour

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:23 AM

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not sure how we should fix this

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we cannot optimize invalid syntax

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just reporting it would be possible

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:24 AM

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could compiler error it. but returning nothing isn't actually a problem if it's a func that was never supposed to return anything

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:24 AM

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How many minutes would it take to fix this with access to source?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:24 AM

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if you expect a returned value and it can return nothing that's an error ofcause

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about 5

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:24 AM

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krgr -_-

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:24 AM

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As usual ¯_(ツ)_/¯

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:25 AM

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5 minutes to allow for
var1 = var2 = var3 = var4 = "test"

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:25 AM

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@still forum that is nothing of an optimizers bothering
you only optimize valid code

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:25 AM

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yeah. I know.

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Could maybe make something optional later on

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:26 AM

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But this is for a script language used by amateurs (like me), so at least make sensible exceptions and error handling / messages.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:26 AM

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https://github.com/X39/sqf-vm/tree/master/SQF-VM in case you are bored @little eagle
there you can try to implement it
should take you a brief minute and give you an idea how "much" work it would be

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:26 AM

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For devs it's certainly interesting to have a potential error check on every compiled script. But the linter should already take care of it

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:26 AM

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also provides you with better erroring for theese kind of things

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:26 AM

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Ohhhhh

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and btw... I know have instruction access. Meaning I could no myNumVar += 5

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:27 AM

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but still is far from complete 🙈

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:27 AM

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Problem is that you will not have SQF VM, linter etc. running when the actual error happens: someone playing your mods.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:27 AM

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But linter should catch it when you pack your mod

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 AM

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thing is: then it is already to late

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unit testing your mods is your thing

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 AM

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Would it catch assignedTeam player reporting nil iff remote controling a drone?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 AM

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that is one goal of sqf-vm

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if it was implemented, yes

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 AM

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So, no^^?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:28 AM

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right now neither player nor assignedTeam is implemented

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assignetTeam would require networking

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:29 AM

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remote controlling a drone is also not implemented 😉

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:29 AM

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It's barely implemented in the base game.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:29 AM

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quite easy task actually, but due to no ppl besides me are rly deving sqf-vm and i have right now extremly limited time ... it is stupid to even start implementing a full network stack for sqf-vm

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but it can be done
a nobrainer actually ... most stuff is just busywork

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implementing commands

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crap ... forgot what i wanted to do ...

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:30 AM

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X39, you could make yourself a legend if you could develop the following:
Precompiled sqf scripts at build time.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:30 AM

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So basically assembly in PBO's

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:30 AM

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Preprocessed*

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:30 AM

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But I think you mean.. .yeah

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:31 AM

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gcc

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i am not into python is the thing

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:31 AM

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There's still the step of implementation, X39.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:31 AM

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wanted to add it to arma.studio

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but again ... limited dev time

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:31 AM

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wanted to add it to armake. But.. C

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:31 AM

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That is something badly needed, but not really recognized by people yet.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:32 AM

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If armake would be c++ it would be easy to do as it basically already has everything that's needed.
But I don't have time to mess around with C crap

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:32 AM

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can you create a list with the different instructions available in arma (and its quirks) @little eagle ?

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might create a PR onto the armake

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:32 AM

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preprocessor?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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then you do not even have to adjust for gcc

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yep

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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Armake already has a working preproc with everything that Arma does

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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why then not use it?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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It's used for configs

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Would need to run on every sqf script when it's packed

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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#define
#undef
#ifdef
#infdef
#else
#endif

#

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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I guess it wouldn't be to hard.
if packing SQF then script = preprocess(script)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

#

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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simple task then ...
gonna check

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:33 AM

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__FILE__

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:34 AM

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You can stop now commy

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:34 AM

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__LINE__

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:34 AM

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Already said there is no need for that stuff because the preproc is already completly implemented

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:34 AM

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I am 99% sure I forgot something.

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Well, comments.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:35 AM

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hell i need to go to a doc for my eyes ...

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:35 AM

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https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/master/src/preprocess.c#L656 just call that when packing SQF scripts. And then pack the resulting temp file instead of the original script into the pbo

GitHub

KoffeinFlummi/armake

armake - A C implementation of Arma modding tools (PAA conversion, binarization/rapification, PBO packing). (WIP)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:36 AM

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    // first constant is file name
    // @todo
    // strcpy(constants[0].name, "__FILE__");
    // if (constants[0].value == 0)
    //     constants[0].value = (char *)malloc(1024);
    // snprintf(constants[0].value, 1024, "\"%s\"", source);

    // strcpy(constants[1].name, "__LINE__");

    // strcpy(constants[2].name, "__EXEC");
    // if (constants[2].value == 0)
    //     constants[2].value = (char *)malloc(1);

    // strcpy(constants[3].name, "__EVAL");
    // if (constants[3].value == 0)
    //     constants[3].value = (char *)malloc(1);

Doesn't look promising without those.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:36 AM

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https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/ed76c8ac795727ebc4ca74bd696bbe30d19be3f3/src/rapify.c#L382-L388

GitHub

KoffeinFlummi/armake

armake - A C implementation of Arma modding tools (PAA conversion, binarization/rapification, PBO packing). (WIP)

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:37 AM

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So, armake when?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:37 AM

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those could be implemented using sqf-vm

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in theory

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:37 AM

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I want them implemented in make.py

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:37 AM

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not __LINE__ though ..

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 10:38 AM

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I want it implemented in sqf

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:38 AM

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See that's the annoying thing about C why I don't want to handle that shit.

    lineref = (struct lineref *)malloc(sizeof(struct lineref));
    lineref->num_files = 0;
    lineref->num_lines = 0;
    lineref->file_index = (uint32_t *)malloc(sizeof(uint32_t) * LINEINTERVAL);
    lineref->line_number = (uint32_t *)malloc(sizeof(uint32_t) * LINEINTERVAL);

success = preprocess(source, f_temp, constants, lineref);

Could be just

string preprocessedSource = preprocess(source, constants)

in C++

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:38 AM

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@peak plover got you covered 😃 sqf-vm

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just use sqf syntax with him @signal peak

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 10:38 AM

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I need an advanced text editor inside the game.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:38 AM

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You expect me to do this? I made one C++ thing in my entire life.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:39 AM

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but that is beautiful ❤ @still forum

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:39 AM

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sure

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But sadly armake isn't beautiful c++

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:39 AM

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Flummi wanted to show off.

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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FLummi made AGHM

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AMG

#

AGM

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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BEST MOD

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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pff

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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Some life communities still use it

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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I-is that a compliment or an insult?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:40 AM

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some life communities also still ask me if they can use XMedSys

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:41 AM

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Insult it is.

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jk

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:41 AM

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yes

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:41 AM

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I like how the next Arma patch after we dropped AGM made it crash when opening the inventory.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:42 AM

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Oh, those beautiful "Patches"

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:42 AM

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Now we just get boring ENUM errors.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:42 AM

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wot?

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Where?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:42 AM

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1.78/1.80

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LOADCOEF

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FOREIGN ERROR, ENUM BLAH

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:43 AM

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oO

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Wich codes/commands?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:43 AM

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player setUnitTrait ["LoadCoef", 1];

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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i am completly out of touch with armake ... can anybody tell me what is called when you just pack a PBO?

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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Anything else?

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(can't remember using setUnitTrait at any time 🤔 )

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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@queen cargo nobody here knows that.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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because for some reason there is an args.unpack but not a args.pack ?!?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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Well, they fixed loadCoef apparently, but set3denMissionAttribute sill errors.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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ah

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:44 AM

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so it is like usual ... fiddling through legacy code

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:45 AM

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I'd tell you if I knew.

jade abyss Dec 29, 2017, 10:45 AM

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So just the usual "Verschlimmbessert" or "Kaputtrepariert"

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:45 AM

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https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/73fde59d6d4c0dfa1645109904dde8f461a86278/src/build.c#L300 Here it finds stuff to binarize

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I guess you could use that callback thingy to look for SQF files

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Or maybe here https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/73fde59d6d4c0dfa1645109904dde8f461a86278/src/build.c#L364

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Or here https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/73fde59d6d4c0dfa1645109904dde8f461a86278/src/build.c#L145

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:47 AM

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binarize is not handling sqf files

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:47 AM

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Yes?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:47 AM

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no

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or yes

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or maybe

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both

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:47 AM

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Make it do that

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

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thing is: need to know where to start

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

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The binarize step turns config.cpp into preprocessed config.cpp and then into binarized config.bin

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

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right now i have no idea where to stop

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I would just check when it writes files to PBO. and instead of writing the SQF script write preprocess(script) instead

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:48 AM

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if (success > 0) return success * -1; wtf!?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:50 AM

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Like here: https://github.com/KoffeinFlummi/armake/blob/73fde59d6d4c0dfa1645109904dde8f461a86278/src/build.c#L145 I'd just
if filename ends with sqf then preprocess and write that to pbo.
But this is C crap. So I have to load the string from a file completly into memory, then preprocess it and write it to a different temp file then read that temp file completly into memory again and write that into the pbo

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Have fun I guess

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:52 AM

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actually seems fairly simple if i understand this correctly

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:52 AM

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Yeah it is. It's just a chore

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:53 AM

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"isn't"?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:53 AM

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int preprocess(char *source, FILE *f_target, struct constants *constants, struct lineref *lineref) {...}

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this is literaly the whole magic

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:53 AM

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Which I already told you before 😄

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:54 AM

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instead of opening the source file myself thus one just has to rly pass it and only open the target file

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:54 AM

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I've seen this line before squint

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:54 AM

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Even pasted you the link to the lkines that prep the constants and lineref. because you have to be careful how you prep them because it will crash if you don't do that in exactly the correct way

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And if that get's changed in the future and someone forgets to update both places it will crash or leak memory

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Yey C

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:55 AM

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it is called: move it into a function

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meh
not today ...

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:55 AM

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^

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:55 AM

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got busy work to do to get paid next month

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:55 AM

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Exactly my thought everytime I thought I'd do something on armake

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look at it for 10 minutes and think "Ugh.. No.. Maybe some other day"

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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...

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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it is ugly code @little eagle

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ugly code stays ugly

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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Don't blame me.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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did not do

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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Good for you.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:56 AM

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i just repeat myself: gcc

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even showed you how to use it 😛

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:57 AM

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Thanks. I wish someone implemented gcc to make.py.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:57 AM

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python is not a language designed for me
i can read and write it but i do not want to

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:57 AM

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I'd be fine with a batch file too. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:58 AM

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didnt i already have shown you how to use gcc in preproc only mode?

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should be fairly easy to use tbh

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:58 AM

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But as you already said gcc won't produce exactly the same output as Arma preproc

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:59 AM

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which does not matters if commy adjusts the defines

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armas preproc is broken

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was broken for ages

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but i do not blame them for not touching it

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 10:59 AM

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armake preproc does perfectly the same as arma preproc

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 10:59 AM

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Maybe I should just let the Arma preprocessor do this and use a extension to write all my functions to file...

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 10:59 AM

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theese kind of things are code once thingies full of legacy code

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what is not done 1:1 like in arma are those concat operators and stringification ops iirc

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

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Nope

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

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maybe it also just have been a broken file ...

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

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Armake was updated about a week ago

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:00 AM

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talking about gcc

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:01 AM

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The more you guys talk, the more I think:

Maybe I should just let the Arma preprocessor do this and use a extension to write all my functions to file...
It will be annoying to make, but then I have a super fast loading ACE/CBA_A3 for myself.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:01 AM

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you also just could adjust the c code yourself

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it would be 5 mins to do so for me
but an hour or so to get it build correctly, tested etc

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:02 AM

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With Intercept you can list all PBO contents.
Just go through all SQF files
{if filename ends with then write preprocessFileLineNumbers <filepath> to C:\temp<filepath>} forEach allFiles

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then you have a perfect copy of every ACE pbo with preproced SQF scripts.

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@queen cargo btw you need openssl dev libs to build armake

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And there is no build script for windows afaik

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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wat

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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so make that about 5 hours

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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how
why

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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Kommi only works on Linux

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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openssl for a packing tool?

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:03 AM

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"Kommi"?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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It needs it for the bisigns

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lol

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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ohh .. .forgot that part

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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XD

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My brain broke. Flummi*

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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and i highly doubt he made it as opt-in ...

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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yeah.

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I guess you can manually remove the files and comment out references to it

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:04 AM

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so make that more like 12 hours

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in that time i could write the preproc myself 🤦

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:05 AM

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And because Linux.. Only has a makefile. Because why bother with crossplatform cmake if a makefile works just fine

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:05 AM

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{if filename ends with then write preprocessFileLineNumbers <filepath> to C:\temp<filepath>} forEach allFiles
This one looks promising too, but why Intercept for that if I could do the same with the base game?

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:05 AM

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You cannot go though all files in all pbo's with the base game

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I guess you could manually create a list of all file paths

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

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I just need to adjust the PREP macro.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

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you can use a batch to get all files

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

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That's super easy.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

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or hook CBA's compile func

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:06 AM

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Yep.

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Since you guys seem to be unable to produce something, and instead talk about build scripts for tools for tools that could maybe achieve this, I'm scrambling together all we already have and create something that works.

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And this is what I'll use: http://killzonekid.com/arma-extension-make_file-dll-v1-0/

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:09 AM

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Ewww

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:10 AM

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told you how you can archive the same with a proper preproc

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:10 AM

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A "proper preproc" will give me different results than the Arma one, and therefore produce improper results.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:11 AM

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just fixes what arma does wrong 😛

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:11 AM

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I have no use for that.

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:11 AM

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it does not contains the arma quirks*

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:11 AM

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Yeah, and is therefore not suited for this task.

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How is this so difficult to understand?

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:11 AM

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you still can edit armake, download openssl, build openssl, build armake

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but i guess that would take away the fun 😦

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 11:12 AM

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The fun will begin once I shave off 30s of game start time with ACE.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:12 AM

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And take so much time that it would only pay off after it's 100th use or so

queen cargo Dec 29, 2017, 11:13 AM

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so much time that you would be faster writing it yourself

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something i have to do anyways sooner or later for sqf-vm

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 11:42 AM

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by the time you'll have it done nvme will be cheap and the gains you'll get will be like 0.2sec

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 11:44 AM

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What does nvme have to do with preprocessing scripts?

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 11:45 AM

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the speed of loading in general

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was a joke

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:37 PM

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I need to add some createDiaryRecord entries. Indirectly from init.sqf I check for hasInterface, and waits for "local player", and then adds them, but it does not work for JIPs. What else do I need to do? Wait for "time > 0" ?

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 12:37 PM

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🤔

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Why

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:37 PM

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Why do you wait for local player?

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Initialization_Order

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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Because that's the object I add the entries to

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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You can add diary entries to objects?

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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You have to????

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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interesting

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:38 PM

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E.g. for unit switching. If you play as A, and switch to B, you don't see A's entries

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 12:39 PM

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can't remove entries

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:39 PM

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What means it doesn't work for JIP's ?

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script error/ game crash/ nothing/ it actually works fine/ ...

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:39 PM

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No entry showed up. In SP and (editor) MP testing it works.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:39 PM

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wut?

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No entry showed up for JIP's in SP?

peak plover Dec 29, 2017, 12:40 PM

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You don't have to wait for local player

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init.sqf runs after player is initalized

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:40 PM

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No, it works fine for non-jip.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:40 PM

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Does the script actually run? Maybe there are other things that stop it from running on JIP

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put some diag_logs or something into it to see if it does run

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:40 PM

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initPlayerLocal.sqf

nocturne iron Dec 29, 2017, 12:40 PM

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I'd suggest using someone elses solution if it's taking too much time

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^

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Diary entry frameworks have been done a thousand times

errant jasper Dec 29, 2017, 12:41 PM

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My own solution parses human-readable files containing the text.

little eagle Dec 29, 2017, 12:41 PM

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Use the initPlayerLocal.sqf and all your issues will magically disappear.

still forum Dec 29, 2017, 12:41 PM

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human-readable files? So.. You mean just like any SQF script?