is possible
#arma3_scripting
queen cargo
the push instructions probably always get some callFunction or something like that in the end?
still forum
Ah yeah. You only get to know it's an array after the values have been pushed
Not always
_myvar = [1,2,3]
endStatement;
push float 1;
push float 2;
push float 3;
makeArray 3;
assignTo _myvar;
gonna private convo
probably better ๐
still forum
๐
little eagle
Could I use intercept to make Mr. de-dmen publish tf ar version one point zero?
subtle ore
I thought intercept ate bugs for breakfast lunch and dinner?
still forum
https://youtu.be/AUWKw9Jk5_4 It does exist ^^
little eagle
Oh, someone from the Panzergrenadierbrigade 37 is in the ST HUD!
halcyon crypt
what is the actual bug in that video? The popping sound?
tough abyss
"GameDataCrap " naming lel
halcyon crypt
I get that same sound when I plug in my headset or sometimes when I start playing music or some other system sound starts playing
(on Linux)
queen cargo
you did not noticed that the guy starts radio chatting and keeps being normal on the left side?
while the character rotates
and the guy radio chatting should be moving too?
from the left to the right (according to the position)
halcyon crypt
lol no didn't notice that
still forum
The pop sound moves your speaker into full negative so it cannot generate any sounds anymore. Which essentially makes you completly deaf
queen cargo
so what i said was not even the bug?
cool ... where can i file a bug report? ๐
(i know where, just making jokes here)
still forum
The movement was right when I heard it last time
halcyon crypt
it's not ๐
queen cargo
still forum
Are you sure it doesn't just sound wrong because you cannot hear anything at all on one ear?
The right ear is completly soundless
queen cargo
same end-result
halcyon crypt
that's quite some weird behavior ๐
still forum
Indeed
queen cargo
last time i tried to do something like that i could not get the L & R channels fixed ... made a minecraft plugin for teamspeak
but it was fully retarded in regards of angle
but i would start in pretty much all routines that modify sound
when a radio chat close starts
subtle ore
@still forum Aha! A fellow audition user!
still forum
I mainly use it as live mixer
subtle ore
Welp
subtle ore
Neat
still forum
decompileASM {[1,2,3,4]}
push float 1;
push float 2;
push float 3;
push float 4;
makeArray 4;
decompileASM optimize {[1,2,3,4]}
push array [1,2,3,4];
This will be so good when it's done :3
little eagle
Dedmen, if you're bored this much then maybe you should look into making a preprocessor for sqf files that does it's stuff at addon build time. Instead of the game start.
I'm pretty sure we could shave off 20 seconds of preprocess/compile time when starting the game with ace, and at least 3 for every mission restart (preInit and postInit are recompiled mostly).
little eagle
Also make it kill newlines except for those used inside strings! I'm tired of line 3k errors for functions with 20 lines.
It would've been something I can see purpose in for a change...
still forum
You can fix the 3k line errors by just moving your script component include
little eagle
You mean above the functions header?
still forum
yeah
little eagle
But then the thingy wouldn't work anymore
The thing that does make these pages: https://cbateam.github.io/CBA_A3/docs/files/arrays/fnc_filter-sqf.html
still forum
You can't teach it to ignore the first line if it's a #include ?
little eagle
Would it work if we do:
#include "script_component.hpp"/**/
?
But even if the lines were correct, 2k chars wasted for every function is dumb.
queen cargo
@little eagle no need for such things
just use gcc preprocessing only
wont be 1:1 the arma preprocessor, but better
little eagle
Sure I "just use" it. Now I have to find someone that actually knows how to implement that into the make.py.
queen cargo
little eagle
Doesn't help me as no one has done this for Arma yet.
queen cargo
uhm ... so you say that due to nobody having used gcc preprocessor on arma you cannot google on how to use preprocessor on any file?
fyi: already used gcc on arma sqf file
little eagle
Thanks.
queen cargo
some macros will be broken due to arma not being fully c preprocessor
those need small adjustments
little eagle
Oh, we don't have a lot of those, so...
queen cargo
you actually really do not have a lot
this would be the first entry on that google search
which would have provided you with this information: gcc -E in.c -o in.i
where in.c is the input file and in.i is the output file
still forum
@queen cargo How do you make gcc find the include files?
queen cargo
correct pathing and correct workspace
armas "file system" is at last nothing but a simple copycat of normal filesystem
--> start at the root of your addon
eg. addons/x39_proj_scripting/
execute from there
gcc will do the rest
little eagle
See? This is a deep rabbit hole and some smart ass posting lmgtfy won't help...
queen cargo
for those outside of your addon, https://www.rapidtables.com/code/linux/gcc/gcc-i.html
@little eagle gcc is fully documented with literally all questions ever asked already available
just no sqf attached to it
little eagle
And? I wanted dedmen to sink his time into it because he already seemed bored.
queen cargo
just that dedmen is busy enough with things that would do way more good then solving a problem that is none
little eagle
than*
And saving 20 seconds would actually be an improvement over doing stuff that never will be finished anyway.
little eagle
Have you considered deleting your account?
queen cargo
have you ever considered listening to what i am saying?
little eagle
Why would I when you clearly don't?
queen cargo
gimme examples
little eagle
I wanted dedmen to sink his time into it
told you how to archive
queen cargo
just that dedmen is busy enough with things that would do way more good then solving a problem that is none
little eagle
So are you saying that you posted that lmgtfy for dedmen, even though I requested something from him and he didn't respond with any questions about how to achieve it?
still forum
It'd be faster for me to replace the ingame preproc to remove all the empty lines. But that won't really make it faster
little eagle
Now that we bullied Quiksilver away, I need a new (old) one to pick on.
still forum
But If I give you the ability to load precompiled code that's already after preproc+compile+optimizer
queen cargo
i was here before you @little eagle
i will be here long after you have been forgotten
still forum
I'm also here way less time than you. And I'm blue :u
little eagle
daba
still forum
But all I can do is Intercept stuff. And as long as you don't want Intercept
austere granite
nobulli.jpg
subtle ore
Isn't the bully life kind of hard ? @little eagle
austere granite
@little eagle put this as your avatar please: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C85-Ur1V0AAkAVM.jpg
little eagle
What can I do, people chose to be wrong (disagree with me).
You will not make me wear an anime avatar, sorry.
still forum
No one wants anime. We need more fur
subtle ore
Is commy always right is the real question? ๐ค
Hey don't force your furry nature on us dedmen
That's just plain wrong
subtle ore
Lool
still forum
Rather Dedmen on the right :u The middle guy is ugly
little eagle
Is commy always right is the real question?
Yes.
subtle ore
Good to know Commy, import or local?
little eagle
The burden of always being right about things when the shit hits the fan does not mean I'm your personal magic eight ball.
subtle ore
Hahahah ๐
fallen locust
"The amount of indents should be inversely proportional to the length of the function." ๐ฟ
little eagle
That's right.
fallen locust
Sooo the longer the function the less of indentation?
little eagle
Yep.
fallen locust
Cool
little eagle
This is prescriptive, not descriptive. It's an ideal for making good code.
fallen locust
void thing()
{ \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t return 0;};
little eagle
And I don't take credit for it. Linus wrote that.
subtle ore
Linus....who...?
little eagle
The guy with the penguin.
little eagle
No, but they are like 30% of the file size of unbinned mission.sqms.
fallen locust
No wonder with that logic
peak plover
Is there a way to binarize all sqf and remove all indent
little eagle
preprocessFile(LineNumbers)
peak plover
But files will still big
little eagle
That is why I suggested to dedmen that he makes a preprocessor that does it's magic at addon build time.
fallen locust
Why just not make it yourself?
little eagle
Because dedmen seemed bored.
still forum
I'm not bored. I just like doing cool stuff :U
SQF Assembly is cool.
When X39's optimizer works as I imagine it about 20% speedup across the board through all scripts
Imagine!
fallen locust
I mean 20% of infinity is still infinity ๐
queen cargo
assembly is funny
at least non-cpu ones
queen cargo
๐
peak plover
๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐
still forum
Hey guys does anyone know how I can check if my player received damage with a script?
little eagle
damage player > 0
still forum
Thanks! I'll try that
still forum
probably broke?
little eagle
It isn't and it works perfectly.
little eagle
When will they add lbSetColorRight etc. to the wiki?
still forum
With "they" you mean KK or me?
little eagle
"They" means everyone but me.
still forum
When they feel like it I guess
Weird tho.. He lsits that command as 1.80 but we got only bug fixes in 1.80. No new script commands
My OCD isn't big enough to fix that
little eagle
No one should care about which version a command was introduced.
lone glade
it's useful for people playing on legacy aka linux users ๐
little eagle
All 3.
still forum
I lied. Fixed.
lone glade
never forget the 17 days of crossplay
little eagle
It lasted twice as long as 1.78
subtle ore
Alganthe, don't worry. Eol will be nice
Linux, mac and windows users all in sweet harmony
lone glade
mac users, aka the one dude who's testing branches on it
little eagle
I just have given a multiline edit box control a scrollbar by putting it inside a controls group with the same height dynamically determined using ctrlTextHeight.
still forum
Be careful about dem branches. Some to thin to carry yo weight
meager heart
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Command_Group:_GUI_Control ```
This page was last edited on 10 September 2008, at 04:07.
And?
meager heart
Exactly!
still forum
Why did you post that?
meager heart
This has been there since alpha?
Why did no one tell me.
little eagle
It's false, because I see commands from A3 there.
little eagle
Well, then it's still false, even if it edits itself, that is an edit.
So saying last edited 10 years ago is wrong.
still forum
It doesn't edit itself
Check it's source
It's source just says "display everything from that category here"
little eagle
Guess that makes sense.
still forum
And that's what it does and what it did for the last 11 years
meager heart
nice
still forum
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Category:Pages_using_duplicate_arguments_in_template_calls&action=edit&redlink=1 This page doesn't even exist at all. But still has loads of stuff
/\/\(O_O)/\/\
little eagle
Oh noes. I just realized that Dedmen can now attach poop emoji to all my comments.
kindred bane
Will this code work?
case (!isNil {_x getVariable "player_rank"}): {format ["%1<br/><t size='0.8' color='#B6B6B6'>%2</t>",_x getVariable ["realname",name _x],switch ((_x getVariable "player_rank")) do {
case 0: {"Test"};
case 1: {"Test 2"};
default {"Unknown"};
}]};
@kindred bane Can you format this next time, see linage in #info_help_tips
subtle ore
Err...how many tabs do you have in there? Use spaces next time lol
subtle ore
Use 4 tabs in replacement of tabs
kindred bane
What u mean?
lone glade
no, don't
subtle ore
Anyways, that code isn't complrte
lone glade
use a proper editor that replace tabs by 4 spaces
subtle ore
Atom
kindred bane
im using sublime text 2? ;P
subtle ore
Sublime Text
lone glade
wait, 2 not 3?
subtle ore
Atom is fine Alganthe
subtle ore
Yes, yes itbis
lone glade
wait one, we have sqf highliters from ace
kindred bane
anyways any idea if that switch thing will work XD?
lone glade
no it won't
kindred bane
hmm =/
lone glade
you're also missing parts of the code
kindred bane
what u mean
lone glade
case (!isNil {_x getVariable "player_rank"}): {
format ["%1<br/><t size='0.8' color='#B6B6B6'>%2</t>",
_x getVariable ["realname",name _x],
switch (_x getVariable "player_rank") do {
case 0: {"Test"};
case 1: {"Test 2"};
default {"Unknown"};
}
]};
``` properly formattedand see the first case? that means there's a switch, and I don't see it
subtle ore
@lone glade Maybe it crashes for you sure...peasent.
kindred bane
Oh, thats cause its part of the code alganthe im editing playertags in altis life ;P
lone glade
eat a dick midnight, you know electron apps are utter shite
the only one that somehow works is VS code, and it's because it's not electron per se but typescript
whomever thought making apps in native javascript / coffeescript need to rethink their life choices
subtle ore
Heheheheh
kindred bane
well thanks guys ๐ i think i got it ill test now.
lone glade
it's objectively worse than other editors
sublime and vs code shit on it
if you think it's good you're also probably using github for windows or gitkraken
charred carbon
Notepad++
lone glade
fucking hell
austere granite
VS code I couldn't get used to.
Tried pretty hard, but no luck
I keep sublime for my rpt
lone glade
I keep sublime for my rpt
You realize how stupid that sounds?
You're using a text editor that can't edit large files, aka what an editor is supposed to do.
or even fucking read them
charred carbon
Why not vim, it's a great editor
meager heart
@austere granite Did you released yourchristmas present?
austere granite
I'm not editing large files. I worked with both vs code, sublime, np++ and I like atom the most.
austere granite
LIFE PROBLEM
lone glade
that's why I told him to post it in scripting
kindred bane
I dont get it??
lone glade
Most people won't help you when they realize it's for life stuff
and for good reasons
meager heart
@austere granite Question above ? ๐
little eagle
@jade abyss This is what it looks like when I do scripting in vanilla no mods: https://github.com/commy2/Arma-3-Scripted-Lobby/blob/master/missions/LOBBY.VR/Lobby/script_component.hpp
jade abyss
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
austere granite
No, not yet. Maybe tomorrow
little eagle
๐
little eagle
I needed my own data type essentially.
jade abyss
How comes?
little eagle
To create lobby groups and I could attach variables to it and the other type SLOT.
jade abyss
#define CREATE_NAMESPACE_GLOBAL createSimpleObject ["Building", [0,0,0]]```
You create an obj and use it as namespace? ๐Yup.
jade abyss
Ah, i think i remember. Haven't you done that IngameGroupSelection UI?
lone glade
"use it as namespace", no, all objects are namespaces
jade abyss
I only knew of location
lone glade
controls can also be used as namespaces
little eagle
I needed two global namespaces, so I use the simple objects for them.
austere granite
The only namespace I use is profileNamespace
little eagle
https://i.imgur.com/CmzMiXW.png
^ 200 kb of code for me ๐
Actually it's more like 50kb.
jade abyss
dynamic Groups i assume?
jade abyss
Like "Adding new Groups on the fly"
little eagle
Created by script during the mission.
jade abyss
๐
little eagle
This is what a user would need to do to create a mission with slots:
https://github.com/commy2/Arma-3-Scripted-Lobby/blob/master/missions/LOBBY.VR/init.sqf
lone glade
example of control namespace
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/addons/arsenal/functions/fnc_buttonLoadoutsRename.sqf#L38
๐ ๐ฏ
it makes not being able to store arrays or vars in lnbData a lot less problematic
lone glade
it's for readability
technically I could drop the one for params, but I find it more readable this way.
little eagle
No joke, you could technically remove all of them.
meager heart
Is it fully scripted and no addons needed ?
jade abyss
adding the UI-Files, rest should be doable without it
little eagle
There are no ui files. It's all mono color ๐
jade abyss
Technicaly, the whole OBE thing i did, could be Vanilla Only too. Just the changes in the CfgVehicles forced me to do it as an Addon.
Why not? Add some fancy interface!
little eagle
That's the worst. I'm always glad if there're no "pretty" pictures.
Dunno why I made this. Probably to prove a point about me being able to do vanilla scripting.
meager heart
My 1/5 cents - It has some style or design or whatever you call it.. just leave it like that, without funky colors and toxic elements
edgy dune
So I got the following code
peak plover
who whoa
edgy dune
_this addAction ["action I wana add",
{
//Code
},[1],0,false,true,"User20"," driver _target == _this"];
_this ?!?!?!
edgy dune
okay hold lemme finish XD
so ik that watever the code is will run once custom key 20 is pressed,but how can I have it where the action will run while the key is pressed down
lone glade
words
subtle ore
Mobile sucks
peak plover
@little eagle does this need a certain amount of units pre-placed? or can I only place 1 playable unit and it would work?
subtle ore
setPlayable, rip :'(
peak plover
I remember arma1-2
Where I mostly started
I know the pain
But I don't know the pain of editing raw sqm without an editor
That A2 3d editor was so garbage
We've come a long way
lone glade
and then people STILL complain "waaaaah it's not good enough"
subtle ore
Well it wasn't really all that editor and more 3d
lone glade
member when placing shit on a table took 10 minutes?
subtle ore
Only if you're lazy
peak plover
I know of people who placed down bases by reloading the mission after every object to get it right
rip
peak plover
I remewber when 3den was announced to completely replace 2d editor
And people were mad and sad
lone glade
"how can I still access the 2D editor"
"Do you have brain damage after using it for so long?"
jade abyss
I remember the first steps in A2 with the alternative 3D-Editor
subtle ore
@jade abyss Pretty awful right?
jade abyss
The old one? Yes
subtle ore
Nigel many people are gods then
lone glade
you mean... poseidon
subtle ore
Zeus gods no less
subtle ore
๐ค
lone glade
I meant, poseidon is the official name of the opposing zeus in ZGM, as well as a tool ๐
or whatever the zeus vs zeus gamemode is called
peak plover
I never palyed that
lone glade
I never touched any official gamemodes
peak plover
I only play ~life~ ugh... hardcore gamemodes
lone glade
outside of EG, and that was like, 2h top
subtle ore
Yeah...
peak plover
Anyone played that TVT mode called blitzkreig when a3 was in alpha, one of the first servers
peak plover
So many teamkills when people didn't know how to play arma and recognize uniforms
lone glade
"G is for Gear"
subtle ore
Lol
peak plover
hahaha
lone glade
I still had people do that in 2016
subtle ore
Why?
peak plover
So you can go a lot faster in this car, are you using the boost?
you mean shift?
No double tap V
My latest favourite
lone glade
hahahahaha
subtle ore
I remember when grenades were a firing mode of sorts too
lone glade
your hand is a muzzle
subtle ore
Overheats? :P
peak plover
There was a mod for A2 that kinda fixed some of the CQB combat. ST_(something)
They need to fix the turning around and stuff in A3
lone glade
I want barrel occlusion back
peak plover
Like turning around is not centered around you, but your gun or sth
lone glade
try to go through a doorway with a sniper rifle, the barrel pokes through the wall
peak plover
Well, New squad update does it well, pubg does it well
lone glade
before you got stuck
subtle ore
@peak plover Nuh uh, gtfo with that comparison shit
I am stopping you right there
That shit ends here
peak plover
Just talking about barrel occlusion being possible
subtle ore
Nu uh
lone glade
it's possible, BECAUSE IT WAS FUCKING REMOVED
like the perfectly working gun pipper we had for planes
subtle ore
I don't want to hear it Nigel
lone glade
nope
subtle ore
๐ค
peak plover
Turn around before the next frame loads. glitched
lone glade
that's not how the collisions work
peak plover
Sure
subtle ore
PhysX is tricky like that altanthe
lone glade
and I know why they removed gun occlusion, too many people complained and thought it was clunky
subtle ore
It could pull a fuck you at any moment
lone glade
you're trying to use a fucking lmg / sniper rifle in a doorway
subtle ore
Physics or not
subtle ore
I don't care Alganthe (and i understand that)
PhysX
RV4
No can do my friend
It'd find a way to send the player to space
lone glade
no, the "sending to space" happens due to shit going under the ground and being propulsed with an insane force out of it
peak plover
๐ค
lone glade
player collisions aren't affected by those issues
subtle ore
Yeah but Alganthe never doubt the possibility
lone glade
well, if you somehow end up squished between units it does but hey
lone glade
as in:
spawn with a shitload of other people spawning at the same time
you'll either ragdoll and fall face first on the ground or die on the stop and your body propulsed into the air
subtle ore
I've still seen the player adjusted left or right even when spawning in the same spot
lone glade
or in very rare cases ragdoll and then propulsed then die
yeah, that's normal
that's not a physX interaction tho.
subtle ore
Nope
subtle ore
Nigel...
lone glade
nigel....
if you delete something you need the index ref, guess what, you can store that in a var
lone glade
[1,2]
peak plover
ughhh
lone glade
deleteAt would removed the third number (index: 0, 1, 2)
agile pumice
anyone see any obvious syntax errors here? https://pastebin.com/raw/wxvnEr9N
peak plover
fnc_tracksreplace =
{
bannable offence
tough abyss
you know you can make an addon to just replace objects without having to use sqf
agile pumice
XD
peak plover
Your { is on the wrong line
agile pumice
look, this isn't general practice for me okay?
its just a quick script for a proof of concept
agile pumice
its only a habbit of I repeat it again, which I most likely will not
but I agree with you
I would fix it if it weren't for all the gamelogics using it
lone glade
you know ctrl+F exist right?
subtle ore
Wait wat
lone glade
if you don't have an editor that can mass replace (N++ at the very least) you're doing something wrong
subtle ore
You're using game logic init to execute shit?
agile pumice
yes
subtle ore
Well there is your issue to begin with
Don't do that
It's more work than you need to do
lone glade
justification incoming in: 3...2...1
agile pumice
so what would the alternative be to find the position of the tracks
I thought checking a radius of several map tiles would be better than scanning the entire map
lone glade
100m * 100m is a single tile
agile pumice
yes
subtle ore
terrain object comand variant would work fine for track finding iirc
lone glade
so you placed a fuckload of game logics all over the map
agile pumice
thats where the 100 comes into play on line 6
subtle ore
๐ฑ
agile pumice
there's about 30 of em
subtle ore
Dude....
agile pumice
I'm open to suggestions for an alternate method
lone glade
using [worldisze / 2, worldsize / 2, 0] as a position and worldsize radius
subtle ore
^
lone glade
do it once on the server at init and cache the thing
peak plover
posinit and also add a init EH so that if zeus adds stuff
subtle ore
Wait, how is worldSize determined as a command? Distance diagonally?
lone glade
config
nocturne iron
@agile pumice it may seem like a waste of time, but you will eventually some limitation inherent to the non dynamic nature of your approach and will have to rewrite the entire thing as a script or series of functions
lone glade
and yes, it's the diagonal
subtle ore
I think that was implied shifty
nocturne iron
it's a hard learned lesson that hurts the more you put it off
subtle ore
@lone glade figured as muc
nocturne iron
I've done pretty much the exact same thing in the past, just trying to save him the pain
subtle ore
Yeah but bad practice will remain bad practice if you can't learn how to use better alternatives
lone glade
or recognize why it's terrible
subtle ore
"triggers are amazing guys" "it just works"
tulip cloud
I was looking for the paa that is used for the gradient for the info sections in the topleft/topright corners. Anyone know where they are located or if there is a way to give a gui element a gradient background instead of using paa?
lone glade
inb4 "uh, my triggers don't work anymore"
sounds of the scheduler choking in the background
subtle ore
Hahahah
nocturne iron
triggers are cancer
subtle ore
@tulip cloud How do you mean?
agile pumice
this is honestly the first time I've heard someone tell me not to execute code from a game logic
subtle ore
What
nocturne iron
fuck it, write 3den modules if you're lazy and dip your fingers into addons
lone glade
I want to know who taught you that now
subtle ore
Who the hell told you that?
agile pumice
You did, 5 minutes ago
lone glade
inb4 it's one of us who was trolling, trying to find the worst way to execute sqf
agile pumice
Midnight - Today at 12:28 AM You're using game logic init to execute shit? eagledude4 - Today at 12:29 AM yes Midnight - Today at 12:29 AM Well there is your issue to begin with Don't do that
tulip cloud
I want to create a gui element with a gradient background. Kinda like this https://gyazo.com/67e57525f6db82db8b727d20cb4c2772
Though haven't found anything that creates a gradient or clean gradient texture yet looking through .paa files
lone glade
call compile an execVM in a game logic -> the creator of all things
peak plover
@tulip cloud it's an image
subtle ore
How am i encouraging you to use gls with that statement?
lone glade
it's paa images, can't do gradients
agile pumice
I think there's some confusion going on here, Midnight
subtle ore
Evidently, can you explain to me what i am missing sorry?
nocturne iron
@subtle ore only recommended if you're writing code to be accessible, ie for a gamemode you want to be adapted easily
agile pumice
I said I was executing code from a game logic, you told me not to. Then when I said "this is honestly the first time I've heard someone tell me not to execute code from a game logic" you asked me who said it XD
subtle ore
@nocturne iron True, but only if you're looking for simpleton setup kind ot stuff.
lone glade
yes
nocturne iron
ye, I'm pretty much doing that for my binkov thing
tulip cloud
Anyone know where the transparent gradient file is located? I'm hoping it's a 1x25 or something pixel image that I can stretch to scale.
subtle ore
@agile pumice You were talking about people who told you do execute, not the people who told you not to
lone glade
and we were wondering who told you to do that (execute code from GLs)
subtle ore
@nocturne iron Which isn't a bad thing...accessibility is the first step to expansion
nocturne iron
@tulip cloud just make it yourself, photoshop + ImagetoPAA spam is a neccessary part of the arma 3 graphic design process
nocturne iron
for maximum pretty ui tho
subtle ore
Hmmm...
tulip cloud
@nocturne iron I try to avoid what is already part of the game if someone knows.
lone glade
I reused BI VA icons and got a non copyrighted bin icon from the net for ACE Arsenal ๐
and someone made me a GL icon ๐
subtle ore
If Justin wants something more unique to his mission then make it yourself justin, otherwise i'd agree with you
nocturne iron
Awesome
subtle ore
@lone glade Gross
lone glade
no search bar for loadouts for you midnight
i'll make sure to put your UID in my naughty list ๐
tulip cloud
I'm very OCD about duplicating content that might already be available to me in all the arma files. I can easily create it that isn't the problem. Trying to be efficient.
subtle ore
Damn! Such evil Alganthe
lone glade
that'd be a great april's fools ....
subtle ore
Hehe
nocturne iron
inb4 sneaking UID bans into CBA
lone glade
get most of you guys UIDs and randomly fuck with your game
"thefuck, why do bananas appear in my inventory?"
"why does my weapon keep jamming?"
subtle ore
You don't have it Alganthe, i am fine
lone glade
It can't be that hard to find your steam profile midnight
subtle ore
Nooooo
nocturne iron
already got it @subtle ore
nocturne iron
get hired by battleye
subtle ore
Even worse
lone glade
til, there's websites that reference all your steam IDs
subtle ore
Oh
subtle ore
Do it Alganthe, nuke from orbit
nocturne iron
remove your name from your steam dude
subtle ore
Wha?
nocturne iron
fair enough
peak plover
doxxed
nocturne iron
tbh I don't mind if people find me
peak plover
pizza time
subtle ore
There are at least more than one Bryce Cain's from Boise Idaho
subtle ore
Pizza whar kind?
peak plover
Doxxer's choice
lone glade
do people still do that ?
subtle ore
Double dog dare you nigel
lone glade
because you sure as fuck get sued by the pizzeria here
peak plover
IT IS THE C U R R E N T Y E A R
Doxxing is old
lone glade
it's not on the person who's "receiving" but on the person calling
but damn, trolling specific people through ACE and CBA is much easier than I thought....
subtle ore
Do it...
peak plover
high time to sign up as a dve
lone glade
don't like that asshole who keep reporting issues not using the template?
BOOM, profile vars cleared
subtle ore
Holy fuck lol
subtle ore
Steal mom's credit card info from a lifer entry?
peak plover
๐
lone glade
honestly "fun bucks" should be banned / illegal
it's euros / local currency or bust
would cut down on a lot of predatory practices
subtle ore
Maybe
stable wave
are there any script libraries other than the armaholic one?
subtle ore
Yes
lone glade
the ACE3 / CBA github repos ๐
peak plover
for cba
if ((toLower serverName) find 'life' > -1) then {
// rip
};
inb4 you realize nigel typed that
subtle ore
Wtf
peak plover
-1 is everything from 0 to infinite
subtle ore
But.
lone glade
also, that is perfectly valid
subtle ore
Why
lone glade
find returns -1 when it doesn't find a valid index
peak plover
!= is two buttons > is 1
peak plover
simple
lone glade
also, != is two commands
peak plover
do you mean whiy find >-1?
subtle ore
No
nocturne iron
time to speed test this
lone glade
i'll probably do arsenal stats in january, don't have the drive with holidays and skrubs screaming that I broke their loadouts (hint, I didn't touch them)
subtle ore
Oh
lone glade
ACE Arsenal doesn't have stats implemented yet
peak plover
Alganthe why does my game not freeze when I open arsenal. You are taking away from the expereince
subtle ore
Stats, we dunno what that is supposed to mean
subtle ore
Uh
peak plover
Ballistic infromation
subtle ore
Oh
peak plover
Tactical technical info
lone glade
which is basically useless in vanilla
nocturne iron
(((stats)))
peak plover
I only take armour >lvl 4
lone glade
no, the info there is wrong
subtle ore
How so?
lone glade
only ballistic protection and explosive resistance / mass are right
peak plover
Is new one based on ace ballsitic info etc.?
subtle ore
Doesnt read config values?
lone glade
all the "range" and other ballistic info are wrong
it does
but "range" is the maximum zeroing for example
subtle ore
Huh, interesting
lone glade
still need to look into how i'll do the interface, in the meantime I got commy to fix scaling for the button bar, I fixed other scaling issues.
Added QOL improvements to the loadouts screen (including a search bar)
Added a button to import loadouts from BI VA
peak plover
manually test and insert all values
lone glade
still haven't gotten a single proper "issue" reported, I already knew of the scaling issues and it happens on really weird resolutions anyways
peak plover
Are u using pixel?
lone glade
interface is pixel perfect
OUTSIDE OF THOSE FUCKING FRAMES THAT RENDER DIFFERENTLY
oh god...
subtle ore
๐ค
lone glade
that 1px difference between literally all the controls and how frames render
nocturne iron
ballistic pro, explo pro and damage could probably be done dynamically by spawning in actors with the given armour etc and shooting them with a 'standard' rifle and normalizing the values you get back
ew
nocturne iron
has a better feel
subtle ore
Well, it wouldn't be practical
nocturne iron
you could probably automate it and export it to a table
lone glade
and would be wrong
nocturne iron
why?
lone glade
because of the error margin due to the value being taken after all the calculations are done
damage isn't only using armor
nocturne iron
yeah ofc
you'd have to refine it a lot
but you'd get an empirical measurement of performance without having to use the guns or translate fairly arcane weapons stats
either that or a 'bullets to kill ruskie at 300m bodyshot' rating
lone glade
"fairly arcane", you mean what is actually used for the damage calculations?
nocturne iron
yeah, it doesn't make sense to people who aren't versed in it
lone glade
also, fun fact:
those bars "limits" (min and max) are taken from the lowest and highest value for the currently loaded weapons / containers configs
nocturne iron
interesting'
subtle ore
So question here, never used controls very much. When do i use ctrlCreate and when do I use a config?
lone glade
never
always
subtle ore
Gotcha.
lone glade
unless you like pain, then go for it ๐
subtle ore
Never
nocturne iron
always do it by config
lone glade
there's a very VERY niche use case for ctrlCreate
like, the pylons UI for ACE uses it
and that's because the number and position of pylons isn't fixed
subtle ore
Couldn't you just adjust it during runtime via script?
lone glade
No, what happen if you run out of controls because there's too many pylons?
nocturne iron
only if there's a hard set maximum midnight
nocturne iron
like, say I'm writing a button board menu
I can hide options/change their functions dynamically
but I can't have more buttons than I've defined in the config without using ctrlCreate
drowsy meteor
ctrlCreate is a wonderful tool if you need to add buttons to pre-existing interfaces, like map screen or display 42. other than that, it has very limited use. i use it on loop scripts so i dont have to copy and paste a million times as well
nocturne iron
really dumb question
but params works for _this var in event handlers right?
fixing lots of ugly old code
jade abyss
Sure, why not?
param["_Var1","_Var2","_Var3"] etc
Don't see why it shouldn't work ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
nocturne iron
thanks dscha โค
lone glade
params works for ANYTHING that is on the left of it and provides an array
well, that returns an argument that it can take at least
jade abyss
e.g.
_Arr = [1,2,3];
_Arr params ["_VarWith1","_VarWith2","_VarWith3"];
Should also work
without a "prefix", it uses _this
warm gorge
Is it possible to have players on 2 different sides in 1 group?
lone glade
No
warm gorge
Damn alright ty
nocturne iron
what do you need it for
nocturne iron
@warm gorge
warm gorge
Something im working on. Need to create the ability for different sided players to talk to each other. I know I could use channels created radioChannelCreate, but I cant use them as theres a limit to how many can be made
peak plover
Createa your own chat
little eagle
@little eagle does this need a certain amount of units pre-placed? or can I only place 1 playable unit and it would work?
Yes. The debug mission has 20 dummy slots placed. I was thinking about automating the process of placing them by adding 3den scripts to my missions pre int though. Thanks for reminding me. After that, it will work essentially automatically by just opening the mission in the editor once. I can even make it autosave ๐
3den is, in contrast to the arsenal and zeus, pretty great actually.
lone glade
"If only the goddamn menu commands were documented properly." - silentspike 2017
peak plover
gucci ๐
I looked at it and the units are like virtual dude, I wonder how well this will plug and play with one of my missions
I hope it works just liek that
little eagle
Things that will need adjusting are:
initPlayerLocal.sqf and initPlayerServer.sqf need to be redirected to the new unit.
init.sqf scripts with waitUntil {!isNull player};.
Maybe that could be worked around by doing selectNoPlayer every frame until you've chosen a slot. Will try.
Trying to make it as compatible as possible.
stable wave
anyone knows why BIS_fnc_textTiles causes FPS drop?
little eagle
Checked the RPT log file for script errors?
stable wave
there doesn't seem to be any error
little eagle
If it works correctly, then the fps drop is probably just from the function operating.
stable wave
hmm. might need to give it a performance test
little eagle
How many years until we get "ctrlFocused"?
meager heart
and ctrlSetFocus _ctrl returnยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
little eagle
But https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ctrlSetFocus already is a thing, which makes this even more infuriating.
tame portal
"Hey guys let's only make the scripting commands we need for our content and not more"
"Sounds like a great idea John"
and so ctrlSetFocus but not ctrlFocused was born
little eagle
Can't believe they don't need ctrlFocused. If they think so, they just don't know yet.
nocturne iron
interesting tidbit, BIS_fnc_findExtreme was introduced after BIS_fnc_findMix and BIS_fnc_findMax
why
ofc we have selectMin and selectMax now, but it's inexplicable
jade abyss
How many years until we get "ctrlFocused"?```
Imagine having RV-E OpenSource ๐there's an EH for that commy
are you ready to witness greatness?:
onSetFocus = QUOTE(GVAR(leftSearchbarFocus) = true);
onKillFocus = QUOTE(GVAR(leftSearchbarFocus) = false);
i'm sure you weren't ready
little eagle
Yeah, just add both of them to all controls and set some variables yourself. <_<
lone glade
you could turn this into a command
and I have 0 ideas why the fuck they still haven't
little eagle
XEH for displays when?
queen cargo
hint that is how actually a lot of ui development outside of arma works too @little eagle
little eagle
Working around incomplete api? Great.
lone glade
cue in the 930 required js dependencies
queen cargo
@lone glade yes, just yes
there are multiple properties which are not-existing but can be created using event handlers
it is common to have to do it yourself
simply because not everything can be covered
a missing command with existing event handlers is no flaw
if neither was existing, it would be a problem
lone glade
a command that returns which UI element is in focus seems..... you know, useful
but then again, no more senior devs on A3 coding wise, or they're focusing on tonks
queen cargo
QoL feature
nothing more
or even worse: current focused element can be anything including nothign from your actual dialog
lone glade
the one thing I hope get changed for A4 is the asset reuse, it's extremely blatant (but not a problem due to the modding scene)
little eagle
Idea 2:
focusedControl
Returning the control the focus is on.
I think we don't even have this for dialog/display.
lone glade
nope :/
queen cargo
there is always just one focused control
little eagle
And?
queen cargo
and one control with keyboard focus
lone glade
which is the focused control
little eagle
^
queen cargo
and? and if your script bugs out it will bug everything out
keyboard focus does not has to be the actual focused control
lone glade
wat
little eagle
What? ๐
lone glade
yes it does
queen cargo
no ...
lone glade
if the control isn't focused you can't give it keyboard inputs
austere granite
even ctrlSetFocus has quirks ๐
little eagle
I mean, if there are 2 kinds of focus, just make it return an array with both elements or smth.
lone glade
because those aren't the focused EH
austere granite
Some do detect mouseEnter, but not exit... and mouseEnter will only ever trigger once
lone glade
I can guarantee you 100% that a control CANNOT take keyboard inputs if it isn't focused
little eagle
Never heard of that either.
austere granite
and one that note, if you open up a dialog then keyUp will still pass through from the mission display, but keyDown will not
queen cargo
difference is the kind of focus
only one control on your whole system can have keyboard focus
logical focus however, is something different
lone glade
wait a second, mouse hover isn't focus
queen cargo
same goes for arma
lone glade
keep it to arma, we all know how arma systems compare to "the rest"
austere granite
I'm talking about different ARMA ui stuff ๐
little eagle
Ya'll weird.
austere granite
in the case of "You'd expect this to work... but for some reason it doesnt"
lone glade
no, it's more the case of:
"wait, why the fuck is that working like this?"
queen cargo
you all just hate arma for SQF, for its UI system, for foobarblublub and ignore possible solutions completly ...
you just hate it that it is not perfectly fitted for your needs ...
lone glade
like, FSMs, most of SQF, UI, the physX implementation
let's be honest, nearly all of them are either aged as fuck or badly implemented
there's no redeeming factor here
queen cargo
go and code another game
austere granite
well X39 in 90% of cases i can work around it, and granted A3 UI scripting has improved a lot
lone glade
wow, I was waiting for that one
austere granite
but still sometimes there's some stuff thats.... wtf
queen cargo
yes @Adanteh#0761
obviously there is
but nothing they ever complain about is an actual issue
it is QoL
lone glade
fun fact QOL are issues
austere granite
yeah the lack of QoL is what makes arma a turn-off for most people i think :p
queen cargo
QoL in scripting is literaly on the lowest end ever possible
UI QoL? even more lower priority
you can work around your "issues" extremly easy
little eagle
It takes like 3 minutes to write ctrlFocused.
queen cargo
especially you should be capable of doing it in a brief moment
austere granite
in some cases i can't with UI ๐ฆ
queen cargo
same in SQF @little eagle
lone glade
the thing is, the less we need to abuse the sqf layer the better.
little eagle
Hmm, write it once in 3 minutes or write it 1000 times in 3 minutes ๐ค
austere granite
i don't have examples right here, but i've spend way too much time on arma UI in the last month and in a couple scenarios spend a ton of time on trying workarounds, none of them working
X39 how do you work around not being able to detect how far you scroll in a controls group? Handle mouseZChanged yourself and use that to detect scroll levels? ๐
i mean... that could potentially be a workaround, but wtf
i understand we can't have absolutely everything
lone glade
the UI system is a gigantic band-aid on an open wound
queen cargo
@Adanteh#0761 sadly yes ...
however, scrolling is not rly usable in any UI system i ever used
all just required a hell lot of background coding
austere granite
But for example the ctrlFocused would be a nice easy thing to do probably
little eagle
Instead we get super useful stuff like https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/isUIContext. I'm sure no one here has used it, even though X39 will tell me how great it is.
lone glade
wtf
austere granite
i wonder if that's for the admin commands? ๐
lone glade
considering how much they abused uiNamespace for arsenal (and for no fucking reasons too) I wouldn't be so sure about that
austere granite
uiNamespace needs to speak out against this blatant #metoo'ing
delicate lotus
Is this a good implementation of a mission timelimit?
_timeLimit = "Timelimit" call BIS_fnc_getParamValue;
timeLimitEnabled = false;
if(_timeLimit>0) then {
timeLimitEnabled = true;
globalStartTime = diag_tickTime;
waitUntil {diag_tickTime - globalStartTime >= 3600};
"endTime" call BIS_fnc_endMissionServer;
};
If not then Im keen to hear suggestion to improve it ^^
still forum
If you have spawned that and not called from init.sqf then yes
lone glade
not using tags
delicate lotus
tags?
little eagle
Yeah, globals need ofpec tags.
lone glade
any global var need tags imho
still forum
Might not be bad for a mission.. I mean.. it's your mission that breaks when you add a mod from someone who thought the same
lone glade
if someone end up using your varname you're kinda screwed
little eagle
well... its not a script for others to implement
That has nothing to do with anything. Global variables need ofpec tags to be considered "good implementation" period.
delicate lotus
also the code is spawned like this from initServer.sqf .
[] spawn compile preprocessFileLineNumbers "scripts\timeLimit.sqf";
still forum
why not just execVM?
delicate lotus
Ive read on german arma forums (armaworld) that execVM is bad
still forum
execVM and spawn compile preprocessFileLineNumbers are exactly the same thing
little eagle
Or why not just make these variables local variables. I see no point in having them as globals.
still forum
^
delicate lotus
They will have furtur implementation in npc dialogs
like HQ telling you how much time left
lone glade
then better start using tags now
little eagle
execVM is bad, but it's slightly better than spawn compile preprocessFileLineNumbers by virtue of being shorter to write.
delicate lotus
ah okay
lone glade
both shouldn't be used anyways
delicate lotus
what should then be used?
delicate lotus
yes
still forum
For a script that is just spawned once execVM is the best if you want to be scheduled
little eagle
execVM it, because it's executed only once anyway.
delicate lotus
okay. And what if It would be executed multiple times? A function?
still forum
Don't listen to the idiots from some idiot filled german arma forum
exactly
cfgFunctions
delicate lotus
but why through a game logic?
lone glade
i'm trolling, ignore me
delicate lotus
lol XD
little eagle
You could optimize it by using sleep 1 or smth like that inside the waitUntil, but no one will ever notice any difference so meh.
delicate lotus
you mean uiSleep
still forum
FurV as Tag?
delicate lotus
Yeah that could work
lone glade
fur
little eagle
They're the same for dedicated servers for all intents and purposes.
still forum
You could use FurtherV if you really wanted to
delicate lotus
I should use the same tag in my stringtables.xml right?
little eagle
Silly Dedmen, OFPEC tags are 3 to 5 chars ๐
delicate lotus
Yeah lucky you, your name has the length of 5 characters
little eagle
Is it luck or foresight?
delicate lotus
wait I know your name from somewhere
lone glade
Furer works too ๐
little eagle
wait I know your name from somewhere
hides
delicate lotus
commy2 the guy who released a script to make custom guided missiles on armaworld
little eagle
Yes, that is what I'm known for.
lone glade
Don't know if I should laugh or feel empathy ๐
delicate lotus
The tag should be lowercase right?
little eagle
No one recognized you, and I'm practically famous now, alganthe. So I don't need your pity.
Doesn't matter.
lone glade
cries in wiki pages
little eagle
Lower or mixed.
delicate lotus
I love the refector function of intellij