#arma3_scripting | ARMA | Page 396

jade abyss Dec 19, 2017, 3:06 AM

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Not Adanteh.

austere granite Dec 19, 2017, 3:07 AM

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This is 100% correct

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 3:07 AM

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I wonder what they would even be

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Probably like epoch, breakingpoint, life and koth

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But they can't really add anything

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So what if it's just more planes and cars?

austere granite Dec 19, 2017, 3:09 AM

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differnet terrains

jade abyss Dec 19, 2017, 3:09 AM

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Yeah, i guess

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 3:25 AM

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Bornholm / Lythium

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They good

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What about script wise?

cloud thunder Dec 19, 2017, 3:52 AM

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The last A3 updates 1.78/1.80 broke some of the doors on Lythium

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 3:59 AM

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"Broke"

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Lythium just didn't update for changes

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 4:04 AM

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They do Dev builds too, so mods have a chance to check it out

gray hemlock Dec 19, 2017, 5:09 AM

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@little eagle From Razer on the Desolation dev team, thank you. Think that was exactly what he needed.

spark phoenix Dec 19, 2017, 6:28 AM

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for anyone wondering, the enfusion code documentation on http://lystic.net/dayzwiki/ was exported from the patch nearly 6 months ago. I can update it if you all would like me to keep it going

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 6:35 AM

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Update from what? The publically available 11 month old Enscript documentation that is actually more current than lystic's website?

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I don't quite understand why the doc from january has more information than his copy of that doc from 6 months ago...

gray hemlock Dec 19, 2017, 7:07 AM

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lol, Yeah sure, please keep the information up to date....
That would have probably been a decent response.

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 7:09 AM

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The latest information is 11 months old. If lystics website is 6 months old then there is absolutely nothing to update.

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So no. There are other things more worth investing time into.

dim terrace Dec 19, 2017, 8:24 AM

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[Public] Entity locality is set before the init script call
❤

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soon on devbranch

cedar kindle Dec 19, 2017, 8:32 AM

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0w0 whats this

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 8:35 AM

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Does that mean I can use setVariable public and it works now inside the init event?

dim terrace Dec 19, 2017, 9:20 AM

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not sure, it's more about if(local _vehicle)exitWith{}; in init fields

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on dedicated server all vehicles were local to everyone during init phase and then changed locality accordingly after mission fully started

glad pendant Dec 19, 2017, 9:21 AM

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im currently reading through the pbos in the ace mod does anybody know what pbo the call functions are under?

dim terrace Dec 19, 2017, 9:22 AM

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so i.e. virtual garage functions were executed on each machine

meager granite Dec 19, 2017, 9:24 AM

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I think it affected JIP as well

dim terrace Dec 19, 2017, 9:51 AM

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indeed

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:22 AM

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@glad pendant Almost every ACE component has it's own functions, and they are in the functions subfolder.

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E.g. https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/tree/master/addons/common/functions

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:25 AM

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What's with the double __

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:25 AM

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fnc__handleRequestAllSyncedEvents?

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:36 AM

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yeah.

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:37 AM

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That's how jaynus named them. 🤷

waxen jacinth Dec 19, 2017, 10:45 AM

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Does someone have an idea, how i could hideobjectglobal within a markershape or isn't it possible since nearestterrainobject only allow radius? I tried something like that but it only takes value 100 as radius:```C
_area6 = createMarker ["area6", [5004.360,11376.789]];
_area6 setMarkerSize [100,20];

foonx_hideobjects = {
{
_pos = getMarkerPos _x;
_size = getMarkerSize _x select 0;
_obj = [];
{hideObjectGlobal _x} forEach nearestTerrainObjects [_pos, _obj, _size];
} forEach _this;
};

_hideObj = ["area6"];

_hideObj call foonx_hideobjects;```

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:47 AM

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I think you have to multiply a radius by sqrt2 so that the corners of a square are filled in. And then discard all objects outside the square with an inAreaArray check.

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Should be the same for rectangle, and you have to multiply the shorter side iirc.

waxen jacinth Dec 19, 2017, 10:49 AM

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Ah, sounds like an option to try - cheers.

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:50 AM

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Getting a paper to check just so I don't spread bs.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:50 AM

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nearestTerrainObjects

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why

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And yes you can

waxen jacinth Dec 19, 2017, 10:52 AM

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Well, tryin to hide some stuff in a corridor and except of setting up small zones with low radius i thought i give it a try over a marker

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:52 AM

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r = sqrt(2)/2 * a, with a being the length of one side of the square.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:52 AM

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inAreaArray

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my mullato

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:52 AM

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Yep, nigel, but first you have to get some candidates.

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Of course you could check ALL terrain objects, but you have to use nearestTerrainObjects anyway to get them.

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So might as well make the radius as small as possible.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:53 AM

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ofc I thought it was somethign else

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:53 AM

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To cover all edges.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:53 AM

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Yes yes

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I wonder if inarea works with 3d triggers?

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It should because alt syntax lets use z

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:54 AM

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Never tried, I hope so.

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What's the equivalent for "area" for 3d shapes?

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:54 AM

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bounding box?

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:55 AM

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Room?

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:55 AM

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volume

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:55 AM

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inVolumeArray

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@still forum ^

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:56 AM

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inpolygon takes 3d positon as well

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:56 AM

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Must be mad math internally.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:56 AM

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Is inpolygon slow?

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I just started using it in a loop

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:57 AM

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Idk, I don't think it's particularly bad for SQF standards.

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Probably depends on how many objects you check and how many points the shape has.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:57 AM

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3 points right now

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But I might do 4

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:58 AM

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That sounds like nothing.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:58 AM

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Drawing a polygon based on player fov and using it to change view distance and cache units

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 10:58 AM

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inPolygon would've been useful for ACE backblast.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 10:59 AM

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yessir

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 11:03 AM

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For a rectangle, the radius r = sqrt[(a/2)²+(b/2)²], with a and b being the two sides.

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Except that's wrong. 😦 Fixed.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 11:07 AM

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Ok does this make sense to you
Locally caching objects and units outside of the player view distance increases fps

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Doesn't the enigne already do that

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 11:08 AM

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What do you mean by caching?

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disable sim?

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 11:12 AM

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yeah

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and hide

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network traffic gets lower, fps higher

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 11:29 AM

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The game itself doesn't do that. They're still simulated as long as they are on the map. But it'd be interesting how it compares with the dynamic simulation stuff.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 11:29 AM

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Well

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For one thing

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Dynamic simlation works globally based on wake up objects or players

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one player on each side of map

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will mean more oobjects active

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client side caching means that if somone else is fighting on the other side of the map. they are cached for me

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 11:31 AM

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If that doesn't break anything.

peak plover Dec 19, 2017, 11:31 AM

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At first I used allMissionObjects

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And it did

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But now I use cba initPost and add everything to an array. So it does not have a scriptiing impact

meager heart Dec 19, 2017, 12:05 PM

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@peak plover i believe you know it but ... there are things like setDynamicSimulationDistance and setDynamicSimulationDistanceCoef to play with in "combo"

cold pebble Dec 19, 2017, 2:38 PM

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Hey

'Unknown Enum Value' Errors

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They fixed it 😛

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Fixed: The 'Unknown enum value' errors would display incorrectly for the createAgent, createUnit, setVehiclePosition, and createVehicle script commands (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127233)
Fixed: The 'Unknown enum value' errors would display incorrectly for the getUnitTrait script command (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127243)
Fixed: The 'Unknown enum value' errors would display incorrectly for the edit3DENMissionAttributes and set3DENMissionAttributes script commands (https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127247)

meager granite Dec 19, 2017, 3:01 PM

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👍

south pasture Dec 19, 2017, 3:39 PM

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Hi there,
is it normal to have lots of Server: Object 2:XXXX not found messages in RPT? Are those heavy desync issues? Any way to mitigate that situation?

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What should i point attention at?

ripe imp Dec 19, 2017, 3:43 PM

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if i have a bunch of markers, how can i get the position of one of them, choosing randomly?

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can I have them in an array somehow?

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 3:49 PM

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Hey guys, to get the position of cursorTarget, is there a better way than using screenToWorld [0.5, 0.5]?

south pasture Dec 19, 2017, 3:50 PM

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@ripe imp

getMarkerPos (allMapMarkers select (random count allMapMarkers));

ripe imp Dec 19, 2017, 3:51 PM

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what if i only want to pick one from a few of the markers, not all?

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["name","name2"] instead of allMapMarkers ?

split coral Dec 19, 2017, 3:52 PM

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getMarkerPos selectrandom ["name","name2"]

ripe imp Dec 19, 2017, 3:55 PM

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thanks both!

split coral Dec 19, 2017, 3:58 PM

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👍

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:29 PM

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im having some trouble generating a random number using variables

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_rNum1 = 2;
_rNum2 = -1;

_rNum = floor(random _rNum1) _rNum2;

_thisWorks = floor(random 2) -1;

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_rNum = floor(random _rNum1) _rNum2;

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that line doesnt work

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:31 PM

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Are you trying to multiply?

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:32 PM

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no im trying to select from a range of numbers, including negatives

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:32 PM

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Because something is missing
floor(random _rNum1) <<<here>>> _rNum2;

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:32 PM

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im trying to replicate this format

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floor(random 2) -1;

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:33 PM

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floor(random 2) + -1;

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Or rather

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floor random 2 + -1

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:33 PM

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floor(random 2) -1; picks a random number from -1 to 1

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its not a s ubtraction

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:33 PM

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Yes it is a subtraction.

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floor random 2 - 1

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Subtraction.

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:34 PM

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i see

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so i need to add the variable okay i get it now

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:34 PM

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Yes.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:34 PM

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2 + -1 is still subtraction as well ^

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:34 PM

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No, that's an addition.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:35 PM

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Yes

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But the value is now 1

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It's subtraction with a mask Commy

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:35 PM

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No, the value is -1, not 1.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:35 PM

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Wtf? 2 + -1? No?

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:35 PM

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2 add -1

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Addition.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:36 PM

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Yes

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But the sum is now 1

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Same thing as 2-1

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:36 PM

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The result is the same, but the operation is different.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:36 PM

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Yes

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:36 PM

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That's like saying
1 * 1
is the same as
2 - 1

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:36 PM

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What i am saying it gets you the same result

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The original post had -1

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:37 PM

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The original was a subtraction.

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:37 PM

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yeah i thought it was a negative at first

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thats why i tend to put spaces before and after my operators

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:37 PM

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It wasn't. It used the binary minus command, not the unary minus command.

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thats why i tend to put spaces before and after my operators
Very good idea.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:38 PM

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@little eagle 🖕 😂 🖕

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:39 PM

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What was that for?

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:39 PM

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why are all the speeds measured in kph instead of m/s?

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:39 PM

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Just do:
vectorMagnitude velocity _vehicle

plucky willow Dec 19, 2017, 4:42 PM

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nice that gives m/s

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thanks

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:42 PM

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@little eagle

1 * 1
is the same as
2 - 1``` That's why, it's not like saying anything

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:43 PM

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You do realize that these two expressions:
2 + - 1
and
2 - + 1
are using 4 different commands, numbers not included?

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:44 PM

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Yep.

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 4:44 PM

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And confusing unary and binary minus was what caused this issue, so you have to be correct in explaining it.

subtle ore Dec 19, 2017, 4:46 PM

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Well, you explained it correctly then yes? All is well

severe solstice Dec 19, 2017, 4:57 PM

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_nObject = nearestObjects [(getPosATL _playerObject), ["HeliH"], 200];
_nObject = _nObject[0];

would this work? can i overwrite an object like that?

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:04 PM

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Hey guys, to get the position of cursorTarget, is there a better way than using screenToWorld [0.5, 0.5]?

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 5:10 PM

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@severe solstice

_nObject = _nObject select 0;

or

_nObject = _nObject param [0, objNull];

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@rotund cypress

positionCameraToWorld [0,0,0]

???

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:14 PM

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Ah maybe that could owrk

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 5:16 PM

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Or do you mean this?

private _target = lineIntersectsSurfaces [
    AGLToASL positionCameraToWorld [0,0,0],
    AGLToASL positionCameraToWorld [0,0,1000],
    cameraOn, objNull,
    true, 1
] param [0, [nil, nil objNull]] select 2;

But then you might as well use cursorObject.

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:16 PM

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Yeah positionCameraToWorld did not work

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 5:16 PM

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What's the goal?

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:17 PM

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Basically if I am looking at a pos, I want to teleport to that position.

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screenToWorld kind of works.

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 5:19 PM

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The only problem with screenToWorld is, that it goes right through objects.

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Only cares for terrain.

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:20 PM

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Exactly

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 5:20 PM

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private _posASL = lineIntersectsSurfaces [
    AGLToASL positionCameraToWorld [0,0,0],
    AGLToASL positionCameraToWorld [0,0,1000],
    cameraOn, objNull,
    true, 1
] param [0, [[]]] select 0;

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This reports the position you're looking at, including intersections with objects, but it is [] if there is no intersection.

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The 1000 is the maximum distance.

rotund cypress Dec 19, 2017, 5:22 PM

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Yeah that works

south pasture Dec 19, 2017, 5:26 PM

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Second try
Is it normal to have lots of Server: Object 2:XXXX not found messages in RPT? Are those heavy desync issues? Any way to mitigate that situation?
What should i pay attention to code wise?

severe solstice Dec 19, 2017, 5:41 PM

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ty commy2

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 6:35 PM

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@little eagle I thought you have more time now :u Intercept-CBA is there for you ^^ I don't know the math for that stuff

austere granite Dec 19, 2017, 7:32 PM

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What's the easiest way to figure out which sort of control type a given ctrl is?

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i have some random controls and wanna figure out if i gotta do lbSetCurSel, ctrlSetText or whatever on them

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 7:34 PM

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can you get a controls config path? Their config has the type

austere granite Dec 19, 2017, 7:37 PM

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yea i figured, that would require manually going through each controls group parent and check like thta

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think ill just setVar in this case

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and use that as a switch so i know what sorta value to expect

river meteor Dec 19, 2017, 8:29 PM

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What is the best way to link the positions of a background picture and text? Been trying all sorts of things, but the dialog changes dramatically with every change of game resolution

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 8:31 PM

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safezone, proper grid

tame portal Dec 19, 2017, 8:39 PM

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@river meteor BI also included a nice way to make dialogs with the EDEN update, a bunch of helpful macros

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Those macros help you write dialogs once and have them function on all resolutions and whatnot 👍

river meteor Dec 19, 2017, 8:42 PM

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@tame portal Are you talking about the GUI editor they included?

tame portal Dec 19, 2017, 8:43 PM

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Nah, the way the new dialogs are made is purely from writing the configs for the dialogs

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It might require some thoughts on what has to be displayed where but once you get the hang of it you will be making shiny dialogs that work on all resolutions and whatnot in no time

river meteor Dec 19, 2017, 8:46 PM

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Do you have a link to a list of these Macros? Haven't heard about this from EDEN

tame portal Dec 19, 2017, 8:47 PM

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They are in your gamefiles

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one second

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#include "\a3\3den\UI\macros.inc"```

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There

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And also cpp #include "\a3\3den\UI\macroExecs.inc"

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this is for example how a dialog of mine looks like

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https://hastebin.com/uzesikunar.cpp

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^ that dialog template defines some macros of its own to make it even easier, the dialog is always selft centered with those

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to be honest if you just want a quick dialog i suggest you do it without this stuff, otherwise you will have some hours of testing and fiddling around with it ahead of you

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like i said, its fairly easy to get the hang of it once youve built one dialog with it

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:35 PM

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What would be the best way of counting how much distance a vehicle has traveled from spawning it?

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 9:36 PM

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With cba? PFH with 1 second delay and add up distance from position stored on last execution of that PFH to current position. The more precise you want the less delay you use

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:36 PM

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PFH was Per Frame Event handlers IIRC?

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https://cbateam.github.io/CBA_A3/docs/files/common/fnc_createPerFrameHandlerObject-sqf.html

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oh this one

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 9:39 PM

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no not PFHObject

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just PFH

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:40 PM

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k got it

still forum Dec 19, 2017, 9:42 PM

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although PFH object might also be good for that.. Never used that

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 9:44 PM

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It's kinda dumb. I just recreated it after I deleted it, because someone actually missed it.

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And I felt bad.

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:49 PM

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just gonna use PFH with GetIn and GetOut

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 9:49 PM

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Make the pfh remove itself and use only getIn. Will be cleaner.

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:50 PM

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isNull objectParent player > delete PFH

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 9:50 PM

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Yes. pfhid is passed as _this select 1.

simple solstice Dec 19, 2017, 9:51 PM

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_this select triggered

little eagle Dec 19, 2017, 9:52 PM

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param [1] 🤷

river meteor Dec 20, 2017, 1:11 AM

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What determines which controls are placed on top of other controls within the same dialog

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

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controls should be read from top to bottom

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or the way around, don't remember

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:21 AM

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this, but then focus controls that

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created order/config order, but any control that can take focus will go on top of that no matter what

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 1:22 AM

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you sure? placing a button behind a rsctext hides it I think

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:22 AM

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there is no way outside of that to control z order

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using ctrlSetFocus on that button will pull it forward then

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lts say you put a listbox first in config, then put a picture or so halfway over it

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when you click the listbox, it will go over the picture

river meteor Dec 20, 2017, 1:32 AM

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Which control is the drop down menu?

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:38 AM

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combobox

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ctrlCombo

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:15 AM

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can I reference the player in a control config? I want to be able to return the current weapon icon and set the image for the control

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would I have to do that with script or is it possible in config?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:16 AM

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It is possible

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was done in A2 before. iirc some Epoch "Extensiones" added them

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is a good indicator where you have to go:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/primaryWeapon

primaryWeapon

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Right, I've already got it working with ctrlCreate

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:18 AM

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getText from the config where it links to the Pic

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:18 AM

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but I need that to work in config

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:18 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/primaryWeapon
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getText

primaryWeapon

getText

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:18 AM

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private _icon = getText(configFile >> "CfgWeapons" >> primaryWeapon player >> "icon");

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I'm just simply talking about how I would apply this to the control

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:19 AM

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can I reference the player in a control config? I want to be able to return the current weapon icon and set the image for the control
would I have to do that with script or is it possible in config?```
What do you want exactly now?!

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+why Ref a player in the ctrl config?!

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:20 AM

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AH nevermind

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:21 AM

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_Ctrl_Symbol ctrlSetText "\a3\ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\Actions\open_door_ca.paa";```
example

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:21 AM

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you want to fill your control after you created it, don't you?

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:21 AM

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sighs in sadness @jade abyss I've already gotten it to work -> I just would like to be able to do this with a config

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@shut flower Essentially...?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Do WHAT with the config?

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:22 AM

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no clue what you mean with your config

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you can execute a script from a control's init

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maybe you mean this?

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:22 AM

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Yes

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preciesly

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Then say it

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derp

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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I need to update the icon upon weapon switch

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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so not

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posnfogndaspgindfspigndf

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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HEY Man, I thought I was being clear 😦

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Not even close^^

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You want to upgrade the Ctrl, when you change the weapon

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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you talked about things nobody invented already 😄

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Yes or No?

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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YES, now that I know I can execute a script from the control all is well Dscha. 🤗

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Ah wait a sec, are you in your fighting gear?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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Doubt it will be well 😄

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fighting gear? oO

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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🖕

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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🖕

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bitch

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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that escalated quickly

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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Dscha is a big bully 😢

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:24 AM

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pff, tester

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:25 AM

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Errr..I don't have a rebutle.

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:25 AM

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rewhat?

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:25 AM

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When you really want to do this on weapon switch you will need some eventhandlers for this

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:25 AM

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shh, don't spoil the fun for us

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Heh

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:26 AM

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sorry, I'll get some popcorn 🍿

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Dscha, a rebutle man

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Just repeating that, from 10min ago:

It is possible
was done in A2 before. iirc some Epoch "Extensiones" added them```

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:26 AM

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a refutation or contradiction.

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Yeah but my question was -> HOW?

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:27 AM

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may I spoiler now?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:27 AM

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Thats for you to find out, little tester

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=}

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5 more min

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making fun atm 😄

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:28 AM

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Bah

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Someday I'll have mighty Staff and Veteran muscles like you Dscha

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Maybe

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:28 AM

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No

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^^

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You are just a Tester

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and stay it

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😛

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:28 AM

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Asshole

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:28 AM

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(currently searching for the link)

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+Yeah, i know

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:29 AM

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Who told you you could reference players in a config? 😕

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:30 AM

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No clue what he meant with that anyway

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:30 AM

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I'm quite surprised about the idea to do so

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:30 AM

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😑

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:31 AM

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there might be an intercept solution for this

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:31 AM

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We get it Dedmen, you like intercept solutions

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Oh, you beat me to it Chris

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:31 AM

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yeah I wanted to prevent dedmen to paste it here

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:31 AM

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@subtle ore You mean smth like that:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/309042409759834113/309110309598003200/Screenshot_1.jpg

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:32 AM

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Yeah.

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I am not in kahoots with any lifer or zombie shit right now please be aware of that

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:33 AM

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let it set the icons for the weapons on each frame, this a solution that will work all the time troll

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Doesn't matter where it's from. It's the same principle

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:33 AM

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Well you know

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Altis life + it's communtiy can make anything bad

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 2:33 AM

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mainly it's community

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:34 AM

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EH with Open/Close Inventory and take/put wich call a function that updates the Pic in the Ctrl (checking for primary, Secondary Weapon etc)

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 2:35 AM

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👍

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 2:36 AM

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(take & Put is important! Keep that in mind)

nocturne iron Dec 20, 2017, 3:04 AM

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Anyone aware of a away to remove the zeus 'unit' ui with scripts?

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 3:21 AM

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hide it on display init

jovial ivy Dec 20, 2017, 3:33 AM

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Is there like, a good way to deal with silly double quotes? [true,[0,""Already Connected to Database""]] (Can't really not get them, it gets returned like that from extDB3 it seems)

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 3:35 AM

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you could use call compile

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but this is a quite unsecure way

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as long as you just want to parse out messages send by extdb this should be ok

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but don't do this for real data you retreive from extdb

tough abyss Dec 20, 2017, 3:43 AM

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call compile / parseSimpleArray

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Or look at using https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/211872-oo_extdb3-a-driver-for-extdb3-addon-mysql/ or https://bitbucket.org/torndeco/extdb3/issues/69/set-of-functions-used-to-handle-extdb3-api

Bohemia Interactive Forums

OO_EXTDB3 - A driver for extDB3 addon Mysql

OO_EXTDB3 - A driver for extDB3 addon MysqlLastest version : 0.2 by Code34
GitHub : https://github.com/code34/oo_extdb3.altis

OO_extDB3 is a driver...

Set of functions used to handle ExtDB3 API.

I have compiled some functions that could help begining mission developpers in the task of using extdb3. Most of theses functions are error safe and well optimized. I would be glad to see them improved and included in a pbo next to the .dlls.

Feel free to contact me on steam for any questions.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/youpala

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Also arma escapes quotations by using double quotations

cloud thunder Dec 20, 2017, 9:48 AM

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Does any one have any idea on how to id a headless client on dissconect?
This is not producing any result

    addMissionEventHandler ["HandleDisconnect", {if (_this select 0 == HC_1) then {"HC_1 Disconnected" remoteExec ["hint", -2];}];
};

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HC_1 is the name of the headless client module

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 9:52 AM

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Did you place a virtual entity for the hc?

cloud thunder Dec 20, 2017, 9:55 AM

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yes , hc is working

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the virtual entity is named HC_1

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 9:58 AM

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Do some debugging with diag_log [_this]; in HandleDisconnect.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:16 AM

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hmm

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Does

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initPost not fire on buildings that are palced?

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Alternatives?

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:17 AM

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Disabled for buildings for performance reasons, decided back in A2.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:17 AM

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Ohhh...

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#mad

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fuck.

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I just realized it's a good alternative for allMissionObjects "Buildings"

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:18 AM

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What is?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:19 AM

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XEH addClass

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:19 AM

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Building your own array of all buildings you mean?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:19 AM

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["Buildings", "init", {
    nig_allbuildings pushBack (_this param [0])
},true,[],true] call CBA_fnc_addClassEventHandler;

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Yup

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:19 AM

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Well, it would be.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:19 AM

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This way no perforamnce drop compared to allMissionObjects because it's fluidly adding them 1 by 1

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

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Are those "buildings" scattered around the whole island?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

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Yes

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

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MissionPlaced or MapItems?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

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misionplaced

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

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Okay

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MapItems could not be loaded, when the init for it is triggered and the EH wouldn't be attached to it

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Tried
entities "Building"
?
Should be faster than allMissionObjects

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 10:21 AM

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I had some serious headaches a few years back with that crap -.-

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:21 AM

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entities does not work with buildings

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:\

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https://i.imgur.com/5wkTE7o.png

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When the allmissionobjects hits 😦

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:24 AM

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Ouch.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:25 AM

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80 to 30 fps drops are not cool

cloud thunder Dec 20, 2017, 10:25 AM

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addMissionEventHandler ["HandleDisconnect", {diag_log [_this];}];
returns
[[HC_1,2.04158e+009,"HC9272","HC_1"]]
so yeah , don't know know why code above didn't produce any result. Nonetheless, the entity name does return first in the list so this is enough to gone on building code to clean up HC's messes. Thanks for the suggestion.@little eagle

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:28 AM

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It's bad practice to use vehicleVarNames for scripts. They always break when you try to do something.

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Should check the typeOf of the object the machine disconnected from or something like that.

cloud thunder Dec 20, 2017, 10:30 AM

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but typeof will always be the same for HC_1 and HC_2

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:34 AM

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Mark them with a setVariable.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:39 AM

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I guess my only fix is to make this into a mod and just use init EH in there

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 10:40 AM

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@peak plover Try with this, but keep in mind that it's "Building", not "Buildings".

📎 cba_xeh_all.pbo

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 10:41 AM

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ohh yes, thanks

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 11:41 AM

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Do the allMissionObjects still "hit" like that when you run it in a scheduled environment?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:41 AM

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yes

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 AM

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The command is bugged then.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 AM

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The command won't suspend if it takes more than 3ms, so I guess

south rivet Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 AM

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@cloud thunder why don't you do _this select 3 isEqualTo "HC_1"?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 AM

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The command must be internally unscheduled

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 11:43 AM

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Yup, that the problem. Since games are soft realtime systems, any command that might take a long time (a variable amount of time), should at least optionally be suspendable.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:43 AM

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Would be cool to have an alt syntax for heavy commands like that

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to allow suspension if takes more than a defined time

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Even better allow to tweak the time it takes

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 11:46 AM

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I am facing a similar issue right now. For a particular mission a buddy is making, many gas stations have been removed. I need some way to remove the gas station signs around them. But they have no classname, so only immediate way I see is to search through all object on the map and check for the model file.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:46 AM

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You can do that, but do it during pre-init,because they are map objects it shoudl work

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Well anytime before time > 0 is good

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drunign "briefing"

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 11:47 AM

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Run it on the server preInit? Thx, I will try that, next time I look at it.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 11:48 AM

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I spawn ALL of my ai on postInit (so they can be spawned in editor placed buildings) and the benefit is no laggy start when starting mission

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 11:53 AM

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Suspension only works between commands. If a single command is slow, it will be slow. Also, >30 fps is still above the 3ms limit.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:00 PM

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Yeah, I know. But other things that the scripting engine needs their time too. But I think it is a wrong for a command named something like .all. or find. Since you have no way to prevent a spike.

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 12:01 PM

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The scheduler is shit, news at 11.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:02 PM

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It needs 8 to 30 ms is below the 3ms limit

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At 100 fps 1 ms increases fps a lot more than at 30 fps

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Im just saying for those big commands it sohuld be an option to limit execution time per frame

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Because I can work around that, but not this

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Anyway it's not all bad it's cool

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:04 PM

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Yeah, the problem is you have no alternative to prevent a possible FPS spike. Almost all of my code runs in the unscheduled space. I find it is faster, and it prevents any concurrency problems.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:04 PM

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mods are alternative

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just any mod with init EH

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 12:05 PM

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Did the xeh_all thing work?

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:06 PM

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Sure, for that particular issue I had. But in general, if you need to run any "all" command during runnin gameplay .....

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Btw, @little eagle , is CBA intentionally extension-free, or just not found any reason to have one?

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Just curious

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:15 PM

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umm

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["Building", "init", {
nig_perf_arrayB pushBack (_this param [0])
},true,[],true] call CBA_fnc_addClassEventHandler;

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added units too ?

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wait

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https://i.imgur.com/f8NCZEh.png

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RPG is a buiilding?

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So I guess no it does not work (properly)

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:17 PM

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Try printing the RPG's inheritance tree

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:17 PM

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How do you do that

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:18 PM

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Do you know the class of the p3d ?

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/configHierarchy

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:18 PM

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nig_perf_arrayB arrayIntersect (allMissionObjects "Building")
// []

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no dont know

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How do I get the p3d class ?:D

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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I mean the classname that has that p3d as the model. But it might be: rhs_rpg7v2_pg7vl

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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"LOP_TKA_RPG_Pack"

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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ahh, yeah backpacks are buildings

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stupid really

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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What, really?

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WEll it didn't add any editr placed objects I had so it didn't work anyway

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:21 PM

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Noticed, it when crawling for gas stations. All buildings have a fuel supply memory point, despite the memory point maybe being abstent

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I believe, backpacks are "static" and "Static" are buildings

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Yeah, Backpacks << Bag_Base << ReammoBox << Strategic << Building << Static << All

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:23 PM

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aah, that makes sense

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reammobox lol

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:23 PM

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And that is why you don't try to classify real world things in a tree structure

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 12:23 PM

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no they did the exact opposite

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 12:23 PM

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Well also that 😃

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 12:50 PM

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Muzzleflash, I don't think there was ever a need for one. Having one would be really annoying, as everytime Battle Eye fucks up, you get bug reports and complaints for stuff you can't do anything about.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:00 PM

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Ahh, yeah that's true. In fact because of forced steam workshop updates, and e.g. ACE updates, I never have it on, so forgot about it

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:01 PM

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Maybe A4, when Intercept is still a thing. Then everything could be added command based. But who knows if it will still be needed then.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 1:07 PM

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Apaprently it's still years away

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So might as well focus on A3, because a lot of people won't switch until it's got a bunch of mods

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But then again modders are more likely to go to a4 faster if it's performance hugely bets a3

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Which wasn't really the case in a2 >> a3

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:09 PM

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I switched immediately, but I never did any modding outside of basic stuff for my unit.

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in A2.

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No point in planning anything for A4, since we don't even know if it will use RV4 or RV3.5.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 1:13 PM

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Yup

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:14 PM

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Most of the squads I have been in, typically delays quite a bit before adopting to new one. Arma is just not Arma without ACE.

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:15 PM

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Sure, but someone has to make the mods.

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Not many people stayed A2 -> A3 in the modding comm, so lots of stuff had to be reinvented.

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:16 PM

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i think most private communities stayed with A2 for a while, public servers switched over almost instant

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:17 PM

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Yeah. I believe some of the long term content makers were dissatisfied with the conditions for Steam workshop.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 1:17 PM

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From A3 > A4 will be different too because sqf is gone

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:17 PM

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I think that's just excuses and they lost interest.

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:17 PM

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There's no indication sqf will be gone?

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just have a wrapper for it

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:18 PM

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SQF may be gone, but no one knows for sure.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:18 PM

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But to be honest, was surprised ACE3 took so long. I know it is large mod. As an outsider, I perceived it to be mostly a port, to adapt to minor changes in script commands, and GUI stuff, but seems it was closer to a rewrite. Still I am grateful for the teams effort. From the names I think some of the "old guys" are not there any more.

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Yeah, I think some people lost interest

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 1:18 PM

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every now and then a rewrite isn't such a bad idea

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:18 PM

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It was their hobby I guess, and they wanted a new one.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 1:19 PM

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ACE3 still in dev. Medical is getting rewritten , which is huge

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:19 PM

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The ACE 2 code is really bad. No better than your average mission. It had to be done all from scratch.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 1:19 PM

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I know. As an outsider, I just thought they would port and then replace components gradually, instead of writing it from scratch. The end result is better.

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 1:19 PM

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ACE 3 code is salvageable for a different game, but ofc SQF has to stay.

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Same for CBA_A3 as it is now.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 1:20 PM

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The ballistics are crazy and stuff like that

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das good

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 2:32 PM

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What will happen if I remoteExec a unit new voice, set it to also run on jip and then the unit dies and gets deleted?

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Hmm wowo, endmission on the server will keep the mission running on the client without anything working

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 2:45 PM

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That depends. I guess it will still run, poorly, e.g. the unit is null? If you use the object/netid as the jip identifier, then it should not run when the object is deleted.

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Really, you can endMission on the server and clients stil run ? 🤦

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 2:46 PM

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Yeah

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 2:47 PM

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Well I know that I will be subjecting players to come April 1st.

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Maybe a scoreboard for how long it takes each player to notice 😃

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 2:48 PM

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I was like, why are all the ai running in place?

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Why does nothing work

south pasture Dec 20, 2017, 2:50 PM

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Hi, should i explicitly remove EHs, associated with a unit, if the unit is deleted? Or engine cares of it itself?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 2:51 PM

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depends

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_unit addEventHandlers are gone

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allVariables _unit as well

south pasture Dec 20, 2017, 2:53 PM

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What should be disposed manually?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 2:54 PM

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if you are reffering to the unit directly

south pasture Dec 20, 2017, 3:05 PM

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@peak plover thnx

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 3:21 PM

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// Get/set unit side
private _unitSide = _unit getVariable ["unit_respawn_side",nil];
if (isNil "_unitSide") then {
    _unitSide = (side (group player));
    _unit setVariable ["unit_respawn_side",_unitSide,true];
};

Returns UNKOWN

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IS this something new? didn't happen before

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

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init script?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

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postInit

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

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Weird.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 3:22 PM

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imma try with sleep 1

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yeah

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sleep fixed it

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I swear to god this was working fine when I tested all of this a few months ago

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Damn, I thought postinit had sides..

cedar kindle Dec 20, 2017, 3:35 PM

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it does

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used it several times

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 3:44 PM

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Well i've got no other explenations

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ohh, locality issue

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I trhink

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 4:09 PM

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Non local group had unkown

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that's what was causing issue

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But I can't remember ever having this happewn

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weird...

tropic gazelle Dec 20, 2017, 4:58 PM

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@tough abyss Hello, can be create a table in extdb3?
` SQL1_1 = CREATE TABLE ?(
uid VAR_CHAR (32),
kills INT (11),
friendly_fire INT (11),
nick VAR_CHAR (64),
first_connect_at DATETIME,
last_connect_at DATETIME,
total_connections INT (11),
died INT (11),
PRIMARY KEY (uid)
)ENGINE=InnoDB;

SQL1_INPUTS = 1`

tough abyss Dec 20, 2017, 5:04 PM

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Test it out and look at the extDB3 logs if it complains

tropic gazelle Dec 20, 2017, 5:06 PM

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[17:44:12:595246 +01:00] [Thread 260] extDB3: SQL_CUSTOM Config Error: D:\Mods\@extDB3\sql_custom\capfunctions.ini(49): '=' character not found in line [17:44:12:595650 +01:00] [Thread 260] extDB3: Failed to Load Protocol: SQL_CUSTOM

tough abyss Dec 20, 2017, 5:09 PM

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SQL1_1=
SQL1_2=
SQL1_3=
or put it all as single line

tropic gazelle Dec 20, 2017, 5:09 PM

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ok i will try ty @tough abyss

south rivet Dec 20, 2017, 5:20 PM

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@peak plover I also have a problem since 1.78 where quite some scripts require a second of sleep before working in any init stage.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:38 PM

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Im getting a 'player' with allPlayers that is local to the server

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🤔

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2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "true"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "O Alpha 1-1:1"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "true"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "O Alpha 1-1:1"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "true"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "O Alpha 1-1:1"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "true"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "O Alpha 1-1:1"
2017/12/20, 19:33:40 "true"```

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That's impossible...

south rivet Dec 20, 2017, 5:39 PM

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but, allPlayers should be an array. What is this

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:39 PM

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I'm doing forEach allPlayers

south rivet Dec 20, 2017, 5:39 PM

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Ah

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 5:46 PM

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Did anyone join in progress at that time?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:46 PM

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nope

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There are no opfor slots as well ( i tihnk O means opfor )

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 5:48 PM

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and obviously the server is dedicated, and no headless clients?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:49 PM

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There's a hc, but I have allPlayers - (entities 'HeadlessClient_f')

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2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "O Alpha 1-1:1"    //unit
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "true"            //local
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "EAST"            //side
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "blu_21_2"        //unit
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "false"            //local
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "WEST"            //side
2017/12/20, 19:47:59 "---done---"        //script finsihed correctly

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 5:51 PM

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Did any player die at that time?

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If a player dies, and he disconnects, his locality might get transferred to the server. Or does it get deleted? Anyway, I am at a loss.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:53 PM

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Nope

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No one died

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The issue is

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using allPlayers seems to return some weird entity that's apparently on the opfor side

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 5:53 PM

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Can you replicate it? Can you get its classname or any info on it?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 5:54 PM

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it's a unit created by a module

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I'll try deleting the module ...

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vanilla cas module btw

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 5:56 PM

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In your log, can you add the class to the output using typeOf ?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:02 PM

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haha well it does not show the O anymore, removed the module. Apparently CAS module is a player :S

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:26 PM

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Question of the day, nil (broadcasted) object variables before deletion of an object or leave it?

rancid pecan Dec 20, 2017, 6:30 PM

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mhello

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the only problem
" Session lost " and players kick
120 - 150 people are active on my server daily
my dedicated https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/game/ - mc-64 oc

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:30 PM

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_unit setVariable ['abc',123,true];
deleteVehicle _unit;
``` ?

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:30 PM

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Nigel 🤦

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Thats not setting a variable to nil

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:31 PM

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Yeah, but

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Is that what you mean?

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Because you don't need to do that

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if oyu have ace / cba you already have ~70 variables set to any player

subtle ore Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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Heheheh

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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lels, no i will never and have never used CBA and ACE

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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@rancid pecan wrong channel #server_windows || #arma3_troubleshooting

rancid pecan Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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okey okey sorry

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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setVariable does not hurt anything other than ram usage

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM

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If I want my FPS to drop to 10 then sure ill use it

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:33 PM

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And you needed >30milion variables to cache the game back in 32 bit

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:33 PM

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crash*

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:33 PM

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yes

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https://i.imgur.com/kZCqlGI.png

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42 fps with ace + 20 other mods

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:34 PM

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Well, the storage may not be a problem, but if you are broadcasting lots of variables, you will find there will be performance issues for sure.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:34 PM

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10k objects 400 units

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beat that

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publicvariable only broadcasts once

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:34 PM

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So?

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Dont know where that came from

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Also your FPS is shit

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Should be > 60

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You are also probably alone in that server

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:35 PM

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show me that you can run 10k objects with 400 units with > 60

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yea alone

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:36 PM

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You running DRO?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Nope

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:36 PM

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@tropic gazelle please, no, just no.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:37 PM

#

Anyway, on topic, setting a few variables cost nothing. There is no need to nil them before deleting. In fact to do so will incur unnecessary communications overhead.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:37 PM

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Just altis with a bunch of bases and units spawned in 3den and that's it

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exactly @errant jasper

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:37 PM

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@errant jasper pretty ignorant statement

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:37 PM

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The overhead comes, would be you would potentially need to inform all clients that they should nil. And since the object is deleted the data gets removed regardless.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:37 PM

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It will cost you a lot if you broadcast variables with large values

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:38 PM

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That what I am saying.

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Do you read?

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:38 PM

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define large values?

tough abyss Dec 20, 2017, 6:38 PM

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Just use pastebin, also i would try use raw sql queries instead of prepared statements for that. Anyway you error is bad SQL Prepared Statement.
Up to you to figure that one out

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:38 PM

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sending 1 is same as sending 1000

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sending a function or some code is bad

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:39 PM

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I said that if you want to nil it on all machines, because each have their own copy, you will have to communicate to each of those machines so they can nil it each, which is pointless since the object is going to be deleted anyway.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:39 PM

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Well my question was more to like this: if an object gets deleted, does the player still store that data

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:39 PM

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And the answer is no.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:39 PM

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Okay so object gets deleted, all machines automatically remove all variables to that out of their storage?

tropic gazelle Dec 20, 2017, 6:39 PM

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@tough abyss https://pastebin.com/azHtAf2M Sorry

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Not sure if it works like that

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Don't know if the actual memroy getss cleared

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Either way its not a problem, but I was curious to if it did or not.

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And regardless, broadcasting variables will cost something.

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Depending on how large the values are

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:41 PM

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Yeah, no point int sending out trash

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:41 PM

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Well we can't technically know what happens when an object gets deleted because that is not visible to the scripting engine. But there is no reason BIS could not do that (delete the memory, or reuse it). And in that case, there is little reason to believe setting it to nil will.

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:41 PM

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There is no point in setting variables to nil before deleting an object.

#

Happy?

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:42 PM

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Yes, but my curious mind asks you why there is no reason

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Because it deletes itself?

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:42 PM

#

Also, you can set a million variables and FPS will not drop by 10 or even 1.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:42 PM

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Well, when clients are receiving them, something has to happen

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Not saying it would affect it when they are already set

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:43 PM

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Sure, you can't sent a million variables in a frame across the network without redchaining everyone.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:43 PM

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^

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Im sure its not a million though

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:43 PM

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What's a million?

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:43 PM

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It is important to distinguish between setting a variable, a thing local to a machine. And broadcasting a variable.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:43 PM

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Enough should be setting 3 variables at roughly the same frame

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:44 PM

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You mean broadcasting?

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:44 PM

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Yes

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:44 PM

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Pretty sure you could do more, but why would you.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:45 PM

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Well some people would do that

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Some people sets much more than 3 variables in a single frame, I have seen some pretty bad mission designs

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:46 PM

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There are so many position updates etc, a few sqf variables won't hurt anyone.

rotund cypress Dec 20, 2017, 6:46 PM

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broadcasting

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:46 PM

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Yes.

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Easy test though. Play your mission: Red chain -> bad, no red chain -> good.

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:47 PM

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Although I would say people should have a good reason to broadcast every single frame. Even most game engines only do it at most say 20 times per second, regardless of FPS.

#

This also helps compact network packets, reducing the overhead.

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:47 PM

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Don't broadcast every single frame : (

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:48 PM

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Yeah. That's bad.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:48 PM

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before:
https://i.imgur.com/SZVEKzn.png


_target = cursorObject;
for "_i" from 0 to 100000 do {
private _name = format ['var_%1',random 1000000];
private _arr = [];
for "_i" from 0 to 100 do {
_arr pushBack (random 10000);
};
_target setVariable [_name,_arr,true];
};

AFTER:
https://i.imgur.com/WI5VFJ1.png

AFTER DELETEVEIHCILE:
https://i.imgur.com/SUV54TD.png

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Memory is cleared after deleting the namespace for the variable

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:49 PM

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I think the most frequent broadcast in ACE is weather synch, which does broadcast the wind from the server every 5 seconds or something like that.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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if you are worried about that then imagine how much sending positions are doing

#

sending a single variable per server is nothing

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even on every frame

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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Medical is pretty bad when a unit respawns.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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@peak plover The problem is publicVariable is "reliable" and "ordered"

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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But then again, medical is pretty bad as a whole.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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don't old variables carry on to the new unit anyway?

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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position updates and directions updates are typically unreliable

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:50 PM

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Yes, nigel. They have to be reset.

#

Cause new body.

#

And yes, there are smarter ways, but:

But then again, medical is pretty bad as a whole.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 6:51 PM

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That's why you have to be careful with how much you sent. Given most bandwidth, and a good enough server, you could of course send several MBits per second in terms of bandwidth. But using publicVariable, if anything is lost in transmission, publicVariables are halted on until the first lost has been received.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:51 PM

#

player setVariable ['noob', true,true];
//killed myself
player getvariable 'noob';//true

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Ohh yes

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Medical settings like blood lvl get rest

#

I try to go by the logic, ```sqf
if (i think it will be more than 1 unit normally takes) then {
don't publicvar
};

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:54 PM

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Medical isn't that bad tbh. It has some smart ideas. E.g. the health states like blood pressure and all that junk are only sent to the medic when a unit is examined.

peak plover Dec 20, 2017, 6:55 PM

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If I've got 300 ai, then sending out player ace vars is nothing and not noticable.

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Because the ai have tons of variables like pos, and if they shoot the bullets and impacts and what not

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 6:56 PM

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ACE Medical does making placing groups as Zeus lag a bit more than usual though.

cedar kindle Dec 20, 2017, 7:35 PM

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even with medical AI disabled ?

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 7:39 PM

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Yes.

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:39 PM

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sliderSetRange [40008, 1, 10];
sliderSetPosition [40008, 1];

#

Can someone explain me why even if I do this, I can drag the slider to 0?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:43 PM

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0 = 1

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:44 PM

#

If I debug the sliderPosition when I drag it, it goes from 0 to 10

#

so let's say that I want to have only from 1 to 10

#

do I have to set the range from 1 to 9 and then add 1?

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to get a range that goes from 1 to 10

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:44 PM

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Wait

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sliderSetRange [101, 1, 100]; = Range from 1 to 10

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So in the output should only 1-10 show up

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:48 PM

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teoretically yes

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:48 PM

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(that's a bit too long ago that i messed with them)

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:48 PM

#

but if I set a variable, which hint the current slider position

#

like this one

#

_sliderValue = round (_slider select 1);

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I get a value from 0 to 10

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maybe cause of the round process?

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:49 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/sliderPosition

sliderPosition

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:50 PM

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isn't equal by getting the second element from the slider?

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which is the value

#

or do I have to use sliderPosition

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:50 PM

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good Q 🤔

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:51 PM

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i'll test it right now and tell you if something changed

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:51 PM

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Yeah, checking my old file if i can find something usefull in there

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:52 PM

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think I found why

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Round : Rounds up or down to the closest integer.

#

so if the sliderPosition is less than 0.49

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I'll get a 0

jade abyss Dec 20, 2017, 7:53 PM

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Yeah

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 7:54 PM

#

if (round (_slider select 1) isEqualTo 0) then { _sliderValue = 1 } else { _sliderValue = round (_slider select 1); };

#

think will do the work

still forum Dec 20, 2017, 8:35 PM

#

@errant jasper
Anyway, on topic, setting a few variables cost nothing. There is no need to nil them before deleting. In fact to do so will incur unnecessary communications overhead. Nil'ing PVARs will remove them from th JIP queue. So it does have a benefit.
@rotund cypress Okay so object gets deleted, all machines automatically remove all variables to that out of their storage? Yes. Everything that doesn't have any reference to it get's deleted.
So if that objects variable had the only reference to that value it will get deleted.
Well we can't technically know what happens when an object gets deleted I do.. So I don't know why you couldn't too.
Intercept-network can analyze PVAR traffic btw.
I think the most frequent broadcast in ACE is weather synch, which does broadcast the wind from the server every 5 seconds or something like that. Yep. But if you are not alone there are lots of CBAs bouncing around. Didn't look what's inside them yet.

errant jasper Dec 20, 2017, 8:47 PM

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@still forum True nil'ing, will help with removing PVARs from JIP queue. Though the original context was in the variable space of an object. I guess we can know what happens when you delete an object. Just not from official info or without violating the EULA - so I didn't know (for sure) before.

thorn saffron Dec 20, 2017, 8:51 PM

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is there any EH or XEH to detect if unit killed something (NOT was killed mind you). I want a script to run when player kills stuff without putting scripts on the targets (so it can be compatible with ALIVE and other scripts that spawn AI)

still forum Dec 20, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Well you can use the "was killed" XEH and check if the killer was your unit

austere granite Dec 20, 2017, 8:51 PM

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@still forum maybe you know this, but is there a specific reason that allVariables still returns nil variables?

still forum Dec 20, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Because they are not deleted.

#

nil is also a value. So if you set a variable to nil it still exists

thorn saffron Dec 20, 2017, 8:52 PM

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@still forum but I want to detect if unit killed someone, NOT if it was killed

still forum Dec 20, 2017, 8:52 PM

#

That's what i just told you

#

There is a special handler for nil on missionNamespace though I think. Where the variable really get's deleted when set to nil

little eagle Dec 20, 2017, 8:54 PM

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Was about to say. It works fine for the mission namespace.

#

There was a time when you couldn't even set them to nil on CONTROL and DISPLAY, but that was fixed.

thorn saffron Dec 20, 2017, 8:57 PM

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@still forum But you need to add the "killed" EH to the AI

still forum Dec 20, 2017, 8:57 PM

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Exactly what I told you

#

the XEH is added to everyone

cinder gyro Dec 20, 2017, 9:32 PM

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I have this in a sqf ```sqf
[_box, player, true] call ace_arsenal_fnc_openBox;

and I have this in the init of the object I want to open it in
```sqf
this addAction ["Arsenal", "scripts\openArsenal.sqf"];

To me that looks like it should work but I cant get it to actually work, anyone know what I did wrong?

lone glade Dec 20, 2017, 9:35 PM

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box is undefined if that's your only piece of code, also,
https://ace3mod.com/wiki/framework/arsenal-framework.html

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and now to finisht the goddamn feature doc with all the shortcuts 😭

cinder gyro Dec 20, 2017, 9:36 PM

#

How would I define the box then?

lone glade Dec 20, 2017, 9:37 PM

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you don't need to, just check the link I posted or put:
[this, true] call ace_arsenal_fnc_initBox;
in the init field of the object

cinder gyro Dec 20, 2017, 9:38 PM

#

Wait I need to use initBox and openBox on the object for it to work?

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I want to open it via a Action btw

lone glade Dec 20, 2017, 9:39 PM

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OPENBox OPENS the box, it's the func making sure you can open it and does it if you can.
IINITbox adds a variable to the object with all the items you specified and adds an ACE interaction

#

there.

cinder gyro Dec 20, 2017, 9:40 PM

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That actually makes alot of sense facepalms

winter dune Dec 20, 2017, 9:40 PM

#

Would someone be kind and give me an example on how to create a good progress bar (not the dialog part) and tell me how can I improve it's performance?

shut flower Dec 20, 2017, 10:57 PM

#

take a look at the progress bar in ace

#

https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/addons/common/functions/fnc_progressBar.sqf

spring niche Dec 21, 2017, 1:18 AM

#

I dont know if this is the right place to do it but, I need a couple of devs that can help me out on my project

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 1:19 AM

#

You need to provide more information.

#

"Hey I need your help but I won't tell you with what! You have to ask me what i want so you can do my work for me!"
You won't get many people helping you that way

lone glade Dec 21, 2017, 1:20 AM

#

this is on the same level as "can I ask a question"

spring niche Dec 21, 2017, 1:26 AM

#

Im not asking for help im just looking for people that can dev

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 1:27 AM

#

#creators_recruiting then

lone glade Dec 21, 2017, 1:27 AM

#

i'm looking for people that can dev
that's asking for help

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 1:27 AM

#

But even then you have to provide info

#

"Hey dev something for me"
"What do you need?"
"I dunno. Just make something"
"wtf? Bye."

lone glade Dec 21, 2017, 1:28 AM

#

paid peanuts too

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 1:29 AM

#

@still forum @lone glade Deving life server LOL

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 1:29 AM

#

Thought exactly the same

#

Was debating with myself if I shall repost this here with a 😂 at the end

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 1:31 AM

#

😄

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:27 AM

#

Would this XEH setup run a function when any units get killed?

    class unit_killed_event {
        killed = = "_this call HG\Functions\Client\AI\fn_aiUnitSetup.sqf";
    };
};```

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:28 AM

#

noooo...

#

For one.. syntax error

#

second that won't do anything.

#

Third PreStart is not Killed.

lone glade Dec 21, 2017, 2:28 AM

#

preStart is for running stuff after the game has loaded

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:28 AM

#

before the main menu

#

Technically before a lot of things load

lone glade Dec 21, 2017, 2:29 AM

#

before anything load other than assets really

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:29 AM

#

oops, sorry I was copying stuff from the examples

#

I didn't notice Extended_PreStart_EventHandlers

#

@still forum where is that syntax error, why it won't do anything?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:34 AM

#

x = = "" is the syntax error

#

killed is afaik wrong

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:34 AM

#

"killed" is one of the event handlers

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:35 AM

#

Yeah. But it is Extended_Killed_EventHandlers then a subclass of whatever name

#

No

#

A subclass of the same name as the one you add the event to

#

so you probably want CAMan or Man

#

And the killed has to be a unique name for your mod that no one else overwrites

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:44 AM

#

    class Man {
            kill_reward = "_this call HG\Functions\Client\AI\fn_aiUnitSetup.sqf";
        };
};```

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:45 AM

#

Still syntax error. But this time in SQF and not in the config

#

\ and . are not allowed in non-string variable names

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:46 AM

#

    class Man {
            kill_reward = "_this call fn_aiUnitSetup";
        };
};```

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:47 AM

#

👍 Now to fixing the indentation 😂

#

That should work. And then in fn_aiUnitSetup you check who the killer was. And if it was the local player or.. whoever you want then you know that, that guy just killed someone

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:56 AM

#

I'm editing the simple shop script. Normally it requires you to run the function detecting if the unit was killed using the init, it would mean adding it to every placed unit.
The original script: https://pastebin.com/2XX5MG3h

I tried to edit it to bring out the code from inside the "Killed" EH: https://pastebin.com/r7YuF0Rs

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 2:58 AM

#

typeName and isEqualTo and params? What witchcraft is dis?

#

I have no idea

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 2:59 AM

#

I just edited the existing function ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

@still forum Now, how do I make that XEH thing to run in the script?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 3:07 AM

#

Huh? "run the XEH thing in the script" ? The XEH thing runs your script. Your script runs in the XEH and not the other way around

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 3:13 AM

#

The Simple Shop is a script you add to a mission with adds shooping money and stuff. One issue is: to get money for killing the AI you need to add this to the placed AI unit's init field
[this] call HG_fnc_aiUnitSetup;
I'm trying to figure out a way to make the kill-reward thing work for any AI, even the one dynamically created by ALIVE or similar mods. Just without the need to edit the mods themselves.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 3:16 AM

#

Why don't you just use XEH to call that thing on every units init then?

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 3:17 AM

#

Because I only need it when I use the shop script? Not sure how all of that works though

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 3:18 AM

#

Or CBA's addClassEventHandler with retroactive enabled

#

https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/blob/master/addons/xeh/fnc_addClassEventHandler.sqf

#

Just add "init" handler on CAManBase

#

That is essentially the same as the init field in editor

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 3:19 AM

#

Would that need to be an addon that runs on every mission?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 3:24 AM

#

no

#

that is script

#

Well you need CBA

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 3:24 AM

#

got CBA as I have many mods that use it

#

["Man", "init", {[_unit] call HG_fnc_aiUnitSetup;}, true, [], true] call CBA_fnc_addClassEventHandler;
and add this to the init scripts? (initServer.sqf etc.)

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 3:31 AM

#

one init script

#

but not initServer

thorn saffron Dec 21, 2017, 3:44 AM

#

Alright! I think I got it working

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 4:07 AM

#

How do you handle splash (explosive) damage from HandleDamage?

warm gorge Dec 21, 2017, 4:37 AM

#

Is there any difference in doing either of the following?

#

[player] joinSilent grpNull;

and

[player] joinSilent (createGroup playerSide);

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 4:42 AM

#

join grpNull probably does the same internally. So the first one would be faster 🤓

warm gorge Dec 21, 2017, 4:45 AM

#

Yeah thought so, cheers

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:00 AM

#

How exactly would I go about moving the currently referenced directory to a below directory.
I want to include a definitions file in a script but the script isn't in the root.
So it's in -> scripts\server\time\fn_realTime.sqf
and the defintions is located in: -> configs\defines.hpp
Obviously doing #include "configs\defines.hpp" won't work.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:01 AM

#

use full paths?

#

in mission just "..\..\stuff" to go up

final storm Dec 21, 2017, 5:02 AM

#

How would you execute a script when the game first loads?

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:02 AM

#

@still forum Ah okay, thanks.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:02 AM

#

preStart XEH with ACE or in CfgFunctions

final storm Dec 21, 2017, 5:02 AM

#

thx

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

What's people's preference on:

if(true) then
{

} else {

};

versus

if(true) then
{

} 
else 
{

};

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

neither xD

final storm Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

2nd

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

Both are wrong

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

if ( true) then {

} else {

};

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:04 AM

#

👆

#

But the space after the if ^^

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

Ugh

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

yeha

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

so now we're debating this now

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

I just copied his haha

#

It looks better in sublime lmao

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

if(true) then {

}:

versus

if(true) then
{

}:

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM

#

first. Because having the { on a single line just doesn't have any use

#

waste of space

final storm Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

^

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

Well no use -> But clean looking? In my eyes yes

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

https://gyazo.com/22fe86b02ee88f3e4b33eba9d50d1498

final storm Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

good on the eyes

#

but can get too long

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

by the end of a long ass file it's just even longer

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:06 AM

#

The

if cond
{
<code>
}

comes from C. Because in C you can also do

if cond
    <code>

which is very different. So if you don't see the { if it's at the same line it could be a problem

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:07 AM

#

Hmmm

#

Alright, well I'll remember that

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:07 AM

#

In SQF you always have to have the {. So it makes no sense to draw extra attention to it and make sure you can see it

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:07 AM

#

Okay. Makes sense.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:08 AM

#

Ofcause you could forget it. In C forgetting it can cause unforseen consequences that might be very hard to find the cause of.
In SQF it's a error.

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 5:25 AM

#

Best:

if(true)then
{

};```

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:28 AM

#

^^ My favourite, but obviously that isn't the popular opinion

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:32 AM

#

Anyone know how one would one call a function as the game starts? I have defined it in cfgFunctions just am wondering how I would execute it on gamestart

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:33 AM

#

what?

#

You just asked that before and I answered you.

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:33 AM

#

That wasn't me?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:33 AM

#

wut?

#

Lol

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:33 AM

#

That was Pablo old man

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:33 AM

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Why do two people randomly ask the same very rare question in the same hour

subtle ore Dec 21, 2017, 5:34 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:34 AM

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set preStart = 1 in your cfgFunctions entry

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You don't execute it on gamestart. It executes itself

cerulean whale Dec 21, 2017, 5:34 AM

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well

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fair point

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lmao

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cheers

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 5:49 AM

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throws 🍌 at @jade abyss. You awake? :u Dscha sleepin

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 7:02 AM

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Anyone know of a way to disable the deaths cased but walking into tail rotors as it bugs out in MP and i dont see bis fixing it as its been like this for years now. So any clue how i can disabled this system or code around it?

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:02 AM

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@still forum Sup furry?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:02 AM

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I'm now also in the blu peoples grp.

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:02 AM

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OH damn

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GG!

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congratz

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:03 AM

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@restive cedar Did you try if Damaged EH might work? Dunno if you can somehow detect if a vehicle cause that damage

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:04 AM

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Partytime sherbLove sherbPeace sherbNoodle 🍬 🍹

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:04 AM

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Dirty Idea is to add handleDamage and if you get insta killing damage while only being a few meters away from a helicopter then ignore that damage

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I wonder how long it takes till people complain to Dwarden why that furry thing is blue 😄

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:04 AM

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😂

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I am also blue, soo... i doubt you will have any complains 😂

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:05 AM

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You are some weird thumbs up guy. I'm a attractive fur fox

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:05 AM

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"attractive"

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erm

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 7:08 AM

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humm need to test it but i wonder is nulling this will solve the issue
tailBladeCenter = "rotor_02_center";
tailBladeRadius = 0.5;
tailBladeVertical = 1;

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:09 AM

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Didn't the Geo of the model comes in count/"interacts" with the player model?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:10 AM

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you mean colliding with the rotating geo lod. That's how I thought the tail rotor does damage

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but not sure anymore

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:10 AM

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Yep

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I mean, you will get blocked by the rotor when the engine is standing, irrc

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And since it's an "active PhysX"-object... hm.. basicly the same as ramming an Inf with a car

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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Learned something new... It really doesn't hit you

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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@restive cedar you could try use init code to try detect when the client creates a new player object

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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engine checks if you are in the area and if the rotor turns.. dead

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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wut?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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So yeah tailBladeRadius might work

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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Oh my

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:12 AM

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If you are in the blade radius you get insta setDamage 1

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:13 AM

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The issue is when it happens, the client creates a new player. You end up with a dead body with gear & player is controlling a new player with same gear

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:13 AM

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What are you talking about @tough abyss ?

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He asked how to prevent death when being hit by helicopter rotor

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:14 AM

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I know the bug he is on about

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Pointed him at another route he might consider looking at.
I just gave up on it and just kick the client when it happens

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:15 AM

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Oh okey.
The tailBladeRadius only works with helicopterRTD which is default? I think?

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:19 AM

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Does it also apply to the Advanced FS?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:19 AM

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I guess so

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:19 AM

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(just asking, since it changes alot of stuff)

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:19 AM

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Don't think that would make a difference

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I guess it might also damage the helicopter if something get's into the rotor

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:20 AM

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tbh, i wouldn't change it^^ Let them die, when they run into the rotor 😂
But i am a sadist and dong give af, so...

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:21 AM

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Problem is they don't die lol 😉

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:21 AM

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wut?

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Arma

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Torndeco - Today at 8:13 AM
The issue is when it happens, the client creates a new player. You end up with a dead body with gear & player is controlling a new player with same gear```

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Totaly missed that

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btw. BlueManGroup atm in #arma3_scripting . No peasants writing 😄

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:28 AM

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Being blue has one downside... Links automatically expand with a preview that I can't remove. Or can I? On Slack I can remove the preview

tough abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:34 AM

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User settings, text and images. I think u can disable it there

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Ahh and you can also <https://link/stuff> and it won't embed

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:34 AM

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Yep

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Good to know

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 7:35 AM

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Thats how i trolled Commy 😄

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 7:54 AM

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yes Torndeco that the issue im talking about ill do soem tests with handledammage and see what i can get to work its just so annoying to have the clones

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handledammage no good

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will keep looking

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humm so nothing is being triggered
res=[]spawn{ waituntil {!isnull player};player addeventhandler ["Dammaged", {diag_log str _this}];};

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 8:09 AM

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Dammaged is not HandleDamage tho

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 8:12 AM

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yer i tried both

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i might have a conflict as im using nss admin panel and that might cause a replacement of the EVs

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i got this from killed
"[NSS_AC_Admin__SP_PLAYER_,NSS_AC_Admin__SP_PLAYER_,<NULL-object>,true]"

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ok so Hit, HitPart, HandleDamage and Dammaged do not tigger from tail rotor splats
Killed triggers but its pointless as it only sends the player as the killed and killer

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 8:16 AM

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But. Does killed get the old object so that you can just delete it?

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 8:18 AM

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The issue is that the old object keeps all handles,defines and so on what im trying to do is prevent the cloning in the first place ill look into the config way now and see if that yealds better resaults

meager heart Dec 21, 2017, 8:22 AM

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addMissionEventHandler "EntityKilled" ?

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It fires on everything

restive cedar Dec 21, 2017, 8:27 AM

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yer killed works but its too late at that point

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gonna try this now https://pastebin.com/kp5HAsY4

Pastebin

class CfgPatches { class A3_Air_F_antitail { author = "$STR_A3_Bohemia_I - Pastebin.com

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nope damn

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Must be hard coded

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 8:40 AM

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I think it might be 2 meter distance from your feet...

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If you get up on a ramp so you stand 1m away from the rotor and if you get hit.. Then yeah.. They disabled the radius check

dim terrace Dec 21, 2017, 9:15 AM

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pretty sure it can be adjusted

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but in case of helicopters, you have engine function + collision with actual geometry

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instead of empty memory point try i.e. using main rotor - engine might somehow try to fallback to some default value in case parameter is empty

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 9:22 AM

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@shut flower thanks, I already searched into the ACE but i didn't find it lol

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 9:58 AM

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one last thing, is cba_fnc_addPerFrameHandler similar to BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler with the param onEachFrame?

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and if yes, is there a way to reproduce it without using cba

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:04 AM

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Yes It's roughly the same

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if you use a delay of 0

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:05 AM

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so for example, is better to use a frame handler instead of a while true / for i from 0 to 1 in a progress bar, right?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:05 AM

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depends

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a EachFrame handler fires each frame

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a while true loop everywhere from each frame to every couple minutes

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And I don't even know why you would use a for loop with step 0

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:09 AM

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but in terms of execution per second

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have to test it, don't know even what to ask lol

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I only know that I have to find something less cpu demanding for the progress bar

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which right now on my server runs with a for loop step 0

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:10 AM

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A progress bar ON the server??

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:11 AM

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when a specifi action is triggered*

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:11 AM

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And where did you get the Idea of using a for loop with step 0?

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A progress bar on the server doesn't make any sense as no one can see it there anyway

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:11 AM

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not on the server side

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on the client side

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I thought that while true will execute more than needed

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but I never tested it so far

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:12 AM

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A while loop in the scheduler is as low cpu demanding as you can get

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a loop that infinitely runs .. Runs infinetly often.. So.. Your definition of "more than needed" is weird.

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:14 AM

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Wasn't the fnc outdated?
BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler

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and added to the ordinary function? @little eagle
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addEventHandler

addEventHandler

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:16 AM

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addStackedEH uses a single addMissionEventhandler with EachFrame as backend

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previously it used onEachFrame as backend

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Also.. You really shouldn't use StackedEH as onEachFrame except if you really need to pass a variable that you can't pass otherwise

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:17 AM

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so all in all, spawning a while true with a delay is less cpu demanding for a progress bar than using a for loop

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:17 AM

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yeah. But both are completly negligible

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:17 AM

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yes

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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but why this? Can't understand it lol. Isn't more demanding if runs infinitly rather than X times per second?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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?

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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imho, in 90% of the cases, you don't need it on EachFrame

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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while true and for with step 0 do exactly the same thing

errant jasper Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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Btw, besides pausing (not running) when not needed, is there any other practical different between onEachFrame and Draw3D?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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Yes.

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onEachFrame runs before and Draw3D runs after simulation

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:18 AM

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one before one after the Calculations

winter dune Dec 21, 2017, 10:19 AM

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These first two loop types are identical in speed (+/- 10%), and are more than 3x as fast the proceeding two loop types.

for "_y" from # to # step # do { ... };
{ ... } foreach [ ... ];
Where as these two loops are much slower, and for maximum performance, avoided.

while { expression } do { code };
for [{ ... },{ ... },{ ... }] do { ... }

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this is from the wiki

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:20 AM

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while and foreach are completly different things

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you can't measure the performance of a loop that never ends anyway

errant jasper Dec 21, 2017, 10:21 AM

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I currently, have a tiny animations framework, with setup, running the animation for a certain duration, and then teardown. I currently use EachFrame, so should I switch to Draw3D? Should be mentioned some of the "animations" involve creating local vehicles moving them around, and eventually deleting them.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:21 AM

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But that's somehow correct. But also
while {true}
is slower than
_true = true; while {_true} But does it really matter?

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@errant jasper if EachFrame works fine then stay with that

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:22 AM

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*nods*

errant jasper Dec 21, 2017, 10:22 AM

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Alright, yeah it has worked well so far. Noone noticed it was up to a single frame behind 😃

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:22 AM

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is slower than
_true = true; while {_true} But does it really matter?```
Because Engine is not "calling the function" `true` ?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:23 AM

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If it was a frame behind then Draw3D will most likely be "frame perfect"

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yes

jade abyss Dec 21, 2017, 10:23 AM

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oh my

cloud thunder Dec 21, 2017, 10:55 AM

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Wiki says allUnits does not contain units of sideLogic
but, on dedicated
{deleteVehicle _x} forEach (allUnits select {!(side _x isEqualTo west) && !(side _x isEqualTo civilian)});
and
{deleteVehicle _x} forEach (allUnits select {!(side _x isEqualTo west) && !(side _x isEqualTo civilian) && !(side _x isEqualTo LOGIC)});
deletes game logics
On hosted server it does not delete them. Trying not to delete game logics. Any ideas?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 10:57 AM

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isKindOf "Man"

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:00 AM

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@still forum

But that's somehow correct. But also
while {true}
is slower than
_true = true; while {_true} But does it really matter?

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I need that nanosecond

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:00 AM

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microsecond*

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:01 AM

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picosecond*

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but yeah i dont think anyone will actually ever need this level of optimization

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:04 AM

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You can use all the ms yoou gain from this on more cool things

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:06 AM

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I do need them. If you have to iterate over dozens of players every frame to collect their position data.. saving a few microseconds somewhere is worth a lot

cloud thunder Dec 21, 2017, 11:11 AM

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@still forum isKindOf "Man" works. THx. Is that a bad description on wiki, bug in arma or my misunderstanding?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:12 AM

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I don't know. allUnits should only return infantry. Logics are not infantry

cloud thunder Dec 21, 2017, 11:16 AM

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Yeah, maybe a new bug? could be related/similar to @peak plover 's problem with allPlayers returning CAS module as player.

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:20 AM

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@still forum in the case of updating hud elements I agree, but mostly people just make their code unreadable because of optimization :P

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:21 AM

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You'd have to have lots of hud elements to make it worth ^^

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:21 AM

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Well worth it in some cases

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:21 AM

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@tame portal > comments hurt performance
Don't think so

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:21 AM

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?

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

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if code get's unreadable just add comments

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

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unreadable code for performance?

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comments never hurt performance

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

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I didn't say comments hurt performance?

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:22 AM

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what deadman said

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:23 AM

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I just said that people sacrifice readability to squeeze out a millisecond where it's not necessary

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*Some

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:23 AM

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You cannot sacrifice readability for performance, it's impossible, you can always comment, causing readability to be good and code fast.

However people sacrifice readability in sake of laziness and time

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:24 AM

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Yeah some people go crazy about performance.. Like putting everything in over a hundred local variables. Because using local variables is faster than calling commands..
And then some lines later they do the most crazy ultra bad performance things as if they don't care about performance

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:24 AM

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Take Quiksilvers huge file as an example.

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:24 AM

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That's what I was referring to

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:25 AM

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😂

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:26 AM

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Some improvements make a lot of sense and are important in some code.
But then people come along. Take these optimizations that make sense elsewhere. Put it in a place where it makes no sense at all and repeat that with all optimizations till they have a mess of crap code that's completly unreadable because they are also too lazy to comment why they are doing things like that

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:26 AM

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@peak plover if I make everything to local variables instead of refetching stuff, I am kind of making the code unreadable while lowering the execution time by maybe some seconds, so yeah its possible 😛

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and well yeah what he just said.. people usually dont comment

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:26 AM

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I find it very helpful finding bugs or doing small tweaks after my code is complete and I go over it to comment it

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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Actually in his case it didn't improve anything

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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so dont let them go down the path where its necessary to comment if they cant be arsed to do it

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I didnt read through the whole file 😄

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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as local variables are only better if your scope is close to them. Which is what I meant with the "put it in a place where it makes no sense at all"

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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using private _var = false; is faster than _var = false;

tame portal Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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the file made my chrome browser on my phone hang, so i closed it again

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:27 AM

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local variables are a improvement that can be significant. But in his case it was worse than not using local variables in the first place

peak plover Dec 21, 2017, 11:28 AM

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Yeah what Dedmen said

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Put it only where neccesary

still forum Dec 21, 2017, 11:28 AM

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Some people get a feel for when things make sense. Other people just slap butter on their toast till they have a butter with toast.