#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 147

subtle bison Apr 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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i just copy&pasted them from the a3 sample models

stuck oyster Apr 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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also you may have texture or material set to them

subtle bison Apr 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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is that fixable in object builder?

stuck oyster Apr 12, 2020, 8:03 PM

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yes

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by selecting the proxy mesh and setting it to use soft edges

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and if it has texture or material removing those

subtle bison Apr 12, 2020, 8:04 PM

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but how :p

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where is the soft edges setting

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as example

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ok found smooth edges -- where do i remove the texture?

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if they would be visible in the uv editor .. then there arent any. uv editor in shadow lod is empty

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ok, no change ingame. pretty sure i did something wrong, because i have no idea what i'm doing.

thin wigeon Apr 12, 2020, 9:21 PM

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goat_sacrifice++; if ( anyone_listening ) then { please_help_me_before_i_go_mental='yup'; };

oak lintel Apr 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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does anyone know why the view is so strange? Everything behind the gun looks so big etc.
look the picture the ammo: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/699043538012340314/unknown.png

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 12:27 AM

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perspective?

oak lintel Apr 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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look the bullets in front of the weapon

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is to big and he position is not correct. but the bullets are correct in the "non gunner view"

rough idol Apr 13, 2020, 8:24 AM

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@oak lintel particle effects are rendered in different rendering scope. View pilot is top layer

oak lintel Apr 13, 2020, 8:26 AM

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i create a view pilot LOD with the same things in view gunner?

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and not more?

rough idol Apr 13, 2020, 8:55 AM

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I mean, you cannot have particle effects in same layer

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it's engine limitation

oak lintel Apr 13, 2020, 9:03 AM

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hmm okay unterstand... another method? i think "thing X" is to complicated with spawn bullets on trigger. but the bullets have physx 🤔

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 1:07 PM

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the ejected shell needs to be part of the vehicle model and animated throught model.cfg if you want it to be visible in the frist person view.

thin wigeon Apr 13, 2020, 1:16 PM

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I'm trying to make my first destructible model building. I think I've copied everything relevant in from the Test_House_01 and everything is almost working - glass shatters, etc. But when I destroy the model it doesn't replace with my ruin model, instead just falling into the ground and dissappearing, and in the console I'm getting "Failed ruin creation: no type for (mymodelname and path).p3d"
I'm not sure if there's a problem with the Test_House_01 sample? It uses the p3d ruin model as the "type" rather than "model" in the Ruin class within DestructionEffects. Am I just chasing shadows here? Anybody else seen this error?
FYI I have Land_ on the front of all the class modelnames in config.cpp. I have class=house and damage=building on the geolod. I am using House_F class for the intact and damaged models, and Ruin_F for the ruin model. I'm obviously missing something really stupid 😦
model.cfg https://pastebin.com/5J1CRdjU
config.cpp: https://pastebin.com/GrK1148B

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@thin wigeon if you refer your ruin config to use one of hte vanilla ruins does that work?

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oh just now noticed that error you get

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so the ruin class is broken somehow

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so first Id like to hear the outcome of using a vanilla ruins p3d

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then Id like you to try replacing your ruins p3d with the sample ruins p3d

thin wigeon Apr 13, 2020, 4:05 PM

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goat_sacrifices++; // thx Mr. Goat 🙂

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Question regarding physx: I've got a vehicle (8 wheeled APC). All wheels have the same parameters, damper animation shows same on both sides. Geo lod has same weight for every one of the 8 wheels, and object builder shows center of mass in the center of the vehicle.

Still, the left side (wheel_1_1 to wheel_1_4) dampers are fully compressed (checked with diag binary), with the wheels floating in the air, while the right side is perfectly fine, wheels on the floor, etc. Memory lod bounds and axes are correct (verified).

Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this ?

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 9:20 PM

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are any of the bad working parts part of 2 animated selections?

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Hmm, don't think so, but let me verify

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No

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 10:19 PM

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would have been too easy solution 😑

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just to clarify, the visual wheel part does not move all the way down but the physX part does?

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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The wheels on one side are completely "up", it shows in both the visual part, and diag_toggle "Supension" shows the springs on that side are completely compressed

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So the visual and physx part do match, but the springs should be in neutral, basically

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Let me see, can I post a link here ?

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1018319087591007632/7F93031E02C9D2AFBD349F6CFA465CF728E999D5/

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Left side of the vehicle, the wheels are all the way "up" and the springs fully compressed

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:00 PM

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does each wheel have its own damper axis?

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for the animation

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:01 PM

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No, common "Basic_Damper_Destruct_Axis" with a vertex at 0, 0, 0 and 0, 0, 1

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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so that should match for each of them

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Yeah

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I just noticed that the axis for the wheels on the right side are basically the same direction as those on the left side (so the yellow lines always move to the left side of the tyre), but I guess that can't really cause this problem

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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could be just how teh diag happens to draw them

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Yeah, i guess it always takes the highest vertex number of the axis

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I did flip them around now and made the wheel rotation a rotationX, just to be sure

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Well, I'll be damned

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It WAS the problem

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:06 PM

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😄

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daymn

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Good to know 😐

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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which part did you flip?

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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So, always do wheel axis with the high vertex outside

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Basically, all wheel axis (left and right) had the same direction (pointing to the right)

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I flipped the left side axis so the all point outwards

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:07 PM

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aaaa

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right so the axis direction matters in that too

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I know it affects the rotation direction of the rotation animation

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:08 PM

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I was thinking they should all be the same direction so the rotation would be the same... with a normal rotation and the axis pointing in different directions, the wheels turn the other way around

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:08 PM

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yah

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:09 PM

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So, make the wheels a rotationX instead of a normal rotation, and then they turn in the right direction AND the problem with the suspension is fixed

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:09 PM

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mighty weird finding

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Yeah

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That's why I love PhysX... always surprises you, even though this is not the first model I made

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:10 PM

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yeah I dont think that would have occured to me either

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👍

cinder meteor Apr 13, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Should document that somewhere, really -_-

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There should be a page on the wiki entitled "Frustrated by PhysX ? Look here!"

stuck oyster Apr 13, 2020, 11:12 PM

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ha yeah

hoary matrix Apr 14, 2020, 9:01 AM

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guys i wanna change a flag that on helmet what should i do ? i am a new to model make

median bough Apr 14, 2020, 9:02 AM

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What helmet?

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What flag?

hoary matrix Apr 14, 2020, 9:05 AM

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british

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and fast

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 11:05 AM

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No fast ways to do such.

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And no idea what helmet you are talking about.

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 4:24 PM

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i have problem with dmg on gunner position. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/699656215566745680/unknown.png

unter the line is dmg active. over the line isnt active

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i can only shot him in the vehicle. not outside

vernal lynx Apr 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I wanted to explain to Bax the way I understand and work with Fire Geometry in Arma. So why not record it and share it with the community ?
https://youtu.be/NEDS6MAqjuQ

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@vernal lynx you mean me? didnt help me... my firegeo worked. but not the gunner (half correct. i dont know)

vernal lynx Apr 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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nah nah I'm just posting that here, like I'm still alive but already out 🤐

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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ah ok^^

vernal lynx Apr 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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relative to your issue, do you have your gunner proxy in your firegeometry LOD ?

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yeah. my gunner becomes dmg. but not over vehicle. only in vehicle. the Bullet on the picture is in the head but the bullet is in the neverland^^

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maybe move the hitbox from animation not with the skeleton?

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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possibly the your fire geometry parts for the hatch are not animated or they animate beyond the vehicles original bounts

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or they dont have component names

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or they are not convex

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or they have no mass

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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hatch is animated. i can shoot on the hatch an the bullet and the penetration worked

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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what was the problem again?

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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the gunner becomes no dmg over the top. under the top ( in vehicle) is dmg active

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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what does you firegeometry lod look like?

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/699671487811944618/unknown.png

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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you dont seem to have the gunner proxy here?

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 PM

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my gunner have a custom rtm and i cant show it in the object builder

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i need a custom gunnerproxy ?

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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is there any proxu for it in firegeometry lod?

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/699672282959708160/unknown.png

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i have it

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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possibly your custom animation moves the character too far from the origin of the proxy

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 5:32 PM

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yeah i think too... i test it

oak lintel Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@stuck oyster problem solved. Animation was to far away from the center in modelling sotware

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:06 PM

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👍

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I've always read that max number of wheels on a tank are 10 per side (functional, excludes non-ground wheels), so 20. What are the max number of wheels on an APC or Car? ...on an Airplane?

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:14 PM

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where did you read that?

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Ah. Don't make me dig it up!

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Wait... so I wasn't concerned about the tank wheel limit until just now.

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:16 PM

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well I cant remember there being documented limits like that

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It should be pretty simple to test though

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:17 PM

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So by your response I could infer that there are no limits to the number of functional, dampered wheels on any vehicle?

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:17 PM

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well bone limit is 254 or something like that

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so that is a limiting factor

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but dont see why there would be hard limits on wheels other than that

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:18 PM

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ok. I think I'm good there

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Tanks_Config_Guidelines

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PhysX allows up to 20 wheels (10 per side) at maximum.

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 PM

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meh well that would be a hard limit if its accurate

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 PM

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only for tanks

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Yeah now that I re-read it sounds like it might be the same limit all across the board, even though it was stated in a tanks guidelines page

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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no, tanks use simplified wheels. Cars dont

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ah. ok

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So what's the limit for cars?

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I think there's an APC with 5 per side?

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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idk actually. No vanilla is all 8 or 6 wheels

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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lets put it this way. How many wheels you want? 😄

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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LOL

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I just need their dampers, soooooo

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at least 10 per side

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I guess you just have to try it out

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:24 PM

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but tank physics is not doing the job

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yeah... trial and error time

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:25 PM

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or not... physx code is open source

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

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That might be a handy bit of information in the future...

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Not sure what to do with it at the moment. It sounds powerful dangerous. @woeful viper

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Well i doubt you can modify physx for arma.

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so unless you make your own game, you are stuck with what we have

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 PM

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nope

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:28 PM

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its only for looking and understanding how it might work...

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(which is why i know its 20 max for tanks)

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Ok... well... Thanks for your help, but I was hoping to keep things within obtainable limits set forth by BI, et al.

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Although I do usually love theoretical discussion

woeful viper Apr 14, 2020, 6:37 PM

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i say doubt, because... well i have no knowledge for trying it. After seing some fancy stuff like shaders being made, who knows -a wizard like Dedmen could maybe do something with it 🤷‍♂️

junior saddle Apr 14, 2020, 6:43 PM

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I don't say this enough, but I'm really grateful for the help you guys give to all of us in the community. I hope that whenever I offer others my experience it's as helpful as you guys are to me. Truly.

stuck oyster Apr 14, 2020, 7:05 PM

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👍 blobhappygoogly

vestal kindle Apr 15, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Posting this here, maybe its more model related.
Hello,
I have an issue with my building. I got this message "No entry 'model.cfg/CfgModels/House_04/Animations/door_1a_rot.begin"
I know I had this message some times ago and I fixed by just starting the cfg from zero but it doesn't help here :/
I copied / pasted another cfg that is working for another model, I replaced the skeleton and class names but I'm still getting this error and my doors axis is broken.
He detect every doors and handles (and locked versions).

My model.cfg and config.cpp :
https://controlc.com/a4f6321d
https://controlc.com/3f6728b2

Hope you can help me here, I don't have more ideas :/

stuck oyster Apr 15, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@vestal kindle you need axis = selectionName defined or begin, end coordinates for the rotation axis.

vestal kindle Apr 15, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Thanks for the help !
Don't know how I missed that ^^"

stuck oyster Apr 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@trim herald unlikely if you have not found such. Also its a #arma3_questions type question.

trim herald Apr 15, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Thanks, I'll migrate the question

white jay Apr 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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anyone here know if blenders scaling units like meters and feet are accurate to arma?

median bough Apr 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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iirc arma as a real scale in meters, same as blender

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so 1m in blender should be 1m in arma

white jay Apr 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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alright thanks

stuck oyster Apr 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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yes

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that is accurate

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but if your object scale is not 1,1,1 at export that will mess it up

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and actually messes stuff up in Blender too

white jay Apr 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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yeah

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ctrl+A apply rotation and scale

subtle timber Apr 16, 2020, 11:16 AM

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Alright, so what I'm trying to do is tweak the config of an existing ragdoll mod to make it more realistic. Current problem is that the bodies fly too far after getting shot. Is there any way to increase the weight of the A3 character so they will drop to the floor, rather than 10 meters from where they initially died?

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 11:18 AM

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You can only alter the ragdoll config.

subtle timber Apr 16, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Yeah but is there a value in which you can change that?

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Undocumented

subtle timber Apr 16, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Because this mod changed that from the base game. In the base game a body will drop and stay there. In the mod it will fly away and then drop

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Can't remember exactly what parameters there are but I think there's something for the bone mass there too

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Things are very easy to break too.

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https://youtu.be/2K85eAUzfCg

YouTube

HorribleGoat

HORGO - ArmaWoman Bug 02

So "Progress" with the ragdoll issues.. Or at least something different.

▶ Play video

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Like this

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I would compare what's different between the mod that changes things and vanilla configs

subtle timber Apr 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I might do that yeah. I'll see what I can find

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 4:54 PM

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so I am trying to reskin some of the old arma 2 bunkers into arma 3 colours, but for some reason I can't seem to get the camo net on the bunkers to use the arma 3 semi-transparent netting shadows. They are solid rather than showing the holes in the net. Anyone know how to do it? I've been told using hidden texture selections on the net may break it?

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1002556686428910409/481855926C653B57BDBE46D1DBC1E7D6A3E8ADD4/

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I get solid shadows

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@spare roost you are missing that texture when packing p3d most likely

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you would need to have unpacked a3 bunker in your packing dir so binarize would be able to fetch that texture

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 5:55 PM

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do you know the texture in question?

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 5:56 PM

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doesnt alpha shadows also need specific sbSource defined

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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n@spare roost well, you should know which texture it is if you are assigning that texture in object builder? 😄

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@stuck oyster nope

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 5:59 PM

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well the camo nets are largely using the a3 structures > military > shelter ones

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and there are no issues with the references. I have the a3 folder in my P:\

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it is just the shadows that are wrong

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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its not the shadow

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so you don't have MLOD?

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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oh I thought they did. 😄 well learned something new today 👍

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yes

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yes meaning you have or dont?

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I have the open source mlods from arma 2

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of the bunkers

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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and which tool are you using for packing?

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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mikero

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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is that texture visible in buldozer?

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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the net textures are visible, yes.

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 PM

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can you show pic how they are looking like in buldozer?

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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sure

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pm'd to you

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that is the shelter using a reference to the BI blufor camonet .rvmat and camonet_nato .paa

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you can see the shadow on the wood looks correct, but in game it is solid

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:07 PM

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so transparency is working?

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it wasn't obvious on first pic

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:08 PM

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it appears to be in buldozer

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:08 PM

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and in game?

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if its transparent then perhaps its indeed shadow and sbsource - it means those a2 bunkers were updated in a3, since they are using different technic

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Pm'd. You can see the solid shadow

rough idol Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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in any case, perhaps you can use sbsource=visualEx for that prop

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it would be better for performance

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:11 PM

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yeah, it has none of those entries in any LOD. I'll investigate there as it appears the config / model.cfg is correct. All the textures are work as they should, apart from the camo nets themselves.

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thanks, it narrows it down

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:28 PM

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thanks, added that in. Worked first time

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1002556771695309529/D4C4671F1E5B89C3C9424CC77672E06D8D60408B/

bold flare Apr 16, 2020, 6:29 PM

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magic

stuck oyster Apr 16, 2020, 6:29 PM

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blobhappygoogly

bold flare Apr 16, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Didn't even know Arma could do such fancy shadows think_turtle
Must've just not noticed it while in battle

spare roost Apr 16, 2020, 6:55 PM

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I tend not to notice it in battle. Usually it is if I am running logi and sitting next to a truck / vehicle at base under a camo net.

lusty ginkgo Apr 17, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Is it possible to export a .p3d from Blender without the need to recalculate normals in Object Builder?

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I know the O2script path needs to be correct but that never seems to help

steel condor Apr 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Q: when we create a custom vehicle model, how do we go about supporting unit insignia?

steel condor Apr 17, 2020, 3:46 AM

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So, is it literally, there needs to be a thing called insignia in the model selections?

white jay Apr 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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question how do i view and edit textures for uniforms?

stuck oyster Apr 17, 2020, 6:28 AM

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@steel condor yes
@lusty ginkgo no, set the path right and it should work.
@white jay you need to extract said textures from the game data files or use ready made templates.
Editing them is made in a image editor of your choosing. Paint, Gimp, Photoshop etc

fading light Apr 17, 2020, 10:14 PM

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hi all ,I have a small issues with my building , when i throw a grenade or shoot in a side certain part of my building ,it acts like there is a invisible force field. i just have lod,roadway, and geometry.The builbing i made is the Gate room from stargate Atlantis.I just needed to be pointed in the right direction. Thanks

stuck oyster Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 PM

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need pics of the problem and of your geometry lod

fading light Apr 17, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Days of trying to sort out the problem and then I asked on here , minutes later I find the problem lol. its my geometry it's overlapped multiple times , once I removed all the overlaps then it started to work. Thanks anyway for the help @stuck oyster

stuck oyster Apr 17, 2020, 10:39 PM

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👍

white jay Apr 18, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Anyone know a tutorial of the controls for Object Builder( mainly to move around), Read the Wiki and a bit confused still

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Or am I confused and Object builder is not likened to eden where you can move around freely

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 11:49 AM

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It has very different controls yes.

mint patrol Apr 18, 2020, 5:03 PM

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https://imgur.com/T1gvwxA what is the problem ?

Model.cfg
class propeller: Rotation
{
type="rotation";
source="rotor";
selection="propeller";
axis="propeller_axis";
angle1="2 * 3.1415926536";
};

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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its part of some other animated selection too

tired forum Apr 18, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Anyone have time to do a import to arma (paid if price is reasonable)

bold flare Apr 18, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Arma 3 tools are non-commercial

tired forum Apr 18, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Thank you fed men

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Dedmen

mint patrol Apr 18, 2020, 6:01 PM

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its part of some other animated selection too
@stuck oyster what do you mean ?

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 6:19 PM

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you have 2 animated named selections and the rotor is part of both

mint patrol Apr 18, 2020, 7:06 PM

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'I cant find any other "rotor" references'

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 7:10 PM

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no its something else

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the rotor is 1 selection then there is some other selection the same part is also in

rough idol Apr 18, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@mint patrol https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105781854598094848/698848975499034624 check this post

mint patrol Apr 18, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@mint patrol https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105781854598094848/698848975499034624 check this post
@rough idol Thx bro 😄

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:05 PM

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So i've been trying to make it so that lights on a gun will disappear as ammo gets lower. Here's the model config that I have set up for it.

{
    type = "hide";
    source = "ammo";
    selection = "litFull";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 35;
    hidValue = 10;
    unHideValue = 0;
};
class LowMag
{
    type = "hide";
    source = "ammo";
    selection = "litMid";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 35;
    hidValue = 25;
    unHideValue = 0;
};
class EmptyMag
{
    type = "hide";
    source = "ammo";
    selection = "litLow";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 35;
    hidValue = 35;
    unHideValue = 0;
};
``` It doesn't work at all. No matter the edits I make to it nothing causes the lights to hide. Anyone see any problems? Its my first time messing around with the model config so I don't know much.

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 9:29 PM

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I think the value goes from 0 to 1

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where 0.5 is half of your ammo left

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or 1 to 0

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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so the minValue, maxValue, and hidValue all have to between 0 and 1?

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 9:34 PM

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If I remember right yes

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:35 PM

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okay i'll give that a try

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that didn't work either

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 9:44 PM

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this a vehicle gun or hand held one?

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:44 PM

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hand held

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 9:44 PM

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ammo should be correct source

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do you have the skeleton set up with the litXXX bones?

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:45 PM

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yeah

stuck oyster Apr 18, 2020, 9:45 PM

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are your selections written in same case

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litLow and not litlow

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are your testing it in buldozer?

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Yes and yes. I've gotten rid of the unhidevalue and they do disappear now but only when the value is 1

stark wagon Apr 18, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I'm just going to shelve this project for now and work on something else.

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:07 AM

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not sure where to ask this, but how do I change the bullet impact particle effect when you shoot an object? I've created a gore pile object and I'm trying to get a bloody effect when you shoot it like when you shoot a person

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similarly if you were to shoot glass you get glass particles or if you shoot metal you get sparks

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:13 AM

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firegeometry penetration material

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I recall there is a "flesh" material or somesuch in P:\a3\data_f\penetration

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I never mounted a P drive, would you have an idea where that file path could be?

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I see data_f in the addons as a pbo file

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:19 AM

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notlikemeow

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cant help you there.

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you dont have development envrionment set up right

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I'll do some digging

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Why dont you have it since you are clearly doing addon?

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I dont understand where new guys like you pop up who are all against setting up the stuff right

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I'm just working out of my blender folder

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:21 AM

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this is becoming a trend

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:21 AM

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followed a tutorial on youtube

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:21 AM

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ah

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that explains it

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youtube tutorials on arma modding are mainly made by people who dont know anything

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theres few good ones and maaaany many terrible ones

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I can't find alot of info on arma modding

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most of my googling goes to editor related stuff

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sometimes there's helpful documentation

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mostly on the BI wiki

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:23 AM

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true documentation is sparse

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but that does not make the bad youtube videos good 😄

white jay Apr 19, 2020, 1:24 AM

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so will mounting a p drive give me access to the a3 files?

stuck oyster Apr 19, 2020, 1:25 AM

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well yes.

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you should however do it by PMCwiki tools and P drive setup way

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I set up the p drive, the only thing I found was meat.rvmat under P:\a3\data_f\penetration, I applied that using the material setting in object builder but it still shows the dirt impact

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:13 AM

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where did you apply it?

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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under the visible object, trying it now on fire geometry instead

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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fire geometry is where its supposed to go

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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ah ok

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thanks

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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there is a wiki page about LODs

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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so is a component is just a separate mesh?

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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each separate part of the geometry is a component

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I would suggest you study the Sample models from Steam

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I'm thinking to get around the 99 component limit I can just connect multiple meshes with some invisible geometry

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:19 AM

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99 component limit?

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:19 AM

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at least that's what I've heard

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:19 AM

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🙈

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trust nothing modding related those people tell you from now on

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but also you were making some sort of flesh mound?

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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yeah

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making a horror mod

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I dont really see it needing more than 10 at most

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so

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I mean for future objects like buildings

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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study the samples

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I rarely go over like 10 meshes in one objects anyway

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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possibly download the A2 released data packages and study those too

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buildings can go to couple of hundred easily if you have windows and interiors

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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yeah

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starting off I'm doing simple static objects but eventually I want to make things like npcs

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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👌

white jay Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I did alot of ksp modding but this is my first time playing around with arma

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so I got a good amount of modelling knowledge to start with

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Hi, I've got quick noob question. I'm making an addon that add a burlap sack. I got it into the game, it follows the head, but it's located in the stomach, not on the head. I tried moving the LODs in Object Builder, thought it might solve the problem, but it remains. I still believe it can be solved by moving the LODs higher, but I'm propably missing something.

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Here's a picture: https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2020/04/20/Jibc.png If the sack was around 1 meter higher it would have been fine.

rough idol Apr 20, 2020, 10:33 AM

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@full skiff use autocenter = 0 in geometry LOD

tropic jewel Apr 20, 2020, 10:41 AM

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I am going to chuck this here as I am unsure if this is a config or model issue, I have created a Eotech sight with a magnifier, however, the reticle does not stay where the barrel is pointing (the center point) verified here with ACE day laser https://i.gyazo.com/bd17b58479dc3d7fc0278c7eacac6773.mp4 I am looking for it to stay centered like it does with something like this https://i.gyazo.com/9c843eaa1191bda73c6210f27d5d8f9e.mp4

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@rough idol I've already done that, perhaps I've done it wrong? Could it be related to something else

rough idol Apr 20, 2020, 11:20 AM

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so I assume your model is also attached to "head" selection?

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can you post some screen from OB?

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Here's the Geometry LOD selected: https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2020/04/20/k5Wi.png

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Here's the visible LOD selected: https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2020/04/20/NNzU.png

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LODs 1, 2, 3 and ShadowVolume all have verticles in the "head" verticle group.

rough idol Apr 20, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@tropic jewel are you using colimator shader for reticle?

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@full skiff and what about model.cfg?

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btw: are you using w7? 😄

tropic jewel Apr 20, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I would have to go back and look at it, how would I tell?

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 11:45 AM

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What rvmat does it have

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 11:46 AM

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I just copied model.cfg from Arma 3 Samples/Addons/Test_Character_01 and replaced "class A3_headgear_example: ArmaMan{};" with "class pytel: ArmaMan{};". pytel is the name of the .p3d file. And I'm indeed using Windows 7. I hope that's not an issue.

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Are you packing with pbo manager?

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 11:50 AM

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I'm packing with Addon Builder. I think we're getting somewhere. Is that the issue? I haven't binarized it though, I've had problems with that in the past.

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 11:52 AM

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I would recommend mikeros toolset and pboproject for error debugging.

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Addon builder let's pretty much everything through.

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Issues with binarization may also mean you have some deep errors.

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 11:54 AM

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Thanks for the tip, I'll try using Mikero's tools once I get the chance.

full skiff Apr 20, 2020, 3:11 PM

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It turned out I'm just an idiot. I was using .p3d without Geometry LOD, while I had the working .p3d in the wrong folder. So thanks reyhard, you were right about the autocenter = 0, I'm just a dumbass.

ember ingot Apr 20, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I'm working on a weapon mod, but I've been running into the problem that when I select a scope on the weapon, and I try to zoom in the camera goes towards the iron sights, but then it does go into scope view

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How do I make it the camera go towards the scope when ADS?

novel trout Apr 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@stuck oyster Need some help I have looked through the config and I don't think I am missing anything for a standard building can you take a look.
https://pastebin.com/5zVrZASZ

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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land_ prefix in the class name

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also

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naming p3d as "house"

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is bad

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you should always prefix your filenames with your mod tag_

novel trout Apr 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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AWwww shizz o

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So It need Land_ModelName

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yes

novel trout Apr 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Well

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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but also change to model name.

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naming it house will actually break the game I think

novel trout Apr 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Haha ok will get that done many thanks

novel trout Apr 20, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@stuck oyster Found it when I put it in arma 3 terrain the mass of the building needs to be heavier 😄

stuck oyster Apr 20, 2020, 10:04 PM

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that is a factor too yes

wispy orchid Apr 21, 2020, 10:20 AM

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question on arma toolbox for blender: it doesn't work for me, it says

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in the preference it says: 3D View: Arma: Toolbox - upgrade to 2.8x required
Verison 1.5.0 of the toolbox

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blender 2.80 and 2.82a tested

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must be something stupid on my side?

stuck oyster Apr 21, 2020, 10:22 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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this one is what you want

wispy orchid Apr 21, 2020, 10:24 AM

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ok, I downloaded it from http://friedenhq.org/arma-ii/fhq-arma-toolbox-for-blender/

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I guess this one is current: https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox/releases

stuck oyster Apr 21, 2020, 10:26 AM

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youp

blissful spire Apr 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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question - making a static UAV turret, model, vertex groups etc etc are done properly. turret itself will move (anims are good). however the actual crosshair isnt moving at all

pseudo jackal Apr 21, 2020, 9:11 PM

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someone should make xa-188

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http://prntscr.com/s3kvhz

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http://prntscr.com/s3kwef

stuck oyster Apr 21, 2020, 9:34 PM

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this isnt really a request channel

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but if you want to give it a shot that would indeed be great

icy ridge Apr 21, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I hope that this isn't considered a crosspost, but as I wrote I have trouble with my object builder and currently trying to isolate the problem and bughunting in a sense. can someone, whose Object builder is working correctly, post me their OB settings, or better a screenshot (of course made anonymous).

Also a question: Is the location of the .paa in relation to the .p3d important. As in if both are in the same folder in P:Drive but the paa is 2 folders deeper than the p3d?

stuck oyster Apr 21, 2020, 9:37 PM

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if path to .paa is correct it should load

icy ridge Apr 21, 2020, 10:35 PM

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ok thanks, than this isn't the problem

formal vapor Apr 22, 2020, 1:08 AM

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what's this textures.lst file in my addon folder directory?

devout wing Apr 22, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Hey, im new to modding and i have a question.
My clan is thinking about taking the C-160 Transall of the Operation Frenchpoint Arma 2 mod and give it new physics and a Reskin.
We would ask the Frenchpoint Team for permission, but i wanted to ask if something like this would be possible, maybe with using the physics model of the RHS C-130.

median bough Apr 22, 2020, 9:25 AM

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technically it is possible to upgrade all older arma content (see CUP), but therefore you need source material by the original author, and also his/hers explicit permission

gaunt cobalt Apr 22, 2020, 10:48 PM

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@stuck oyster Is it possible to insert an object in TB that executes a script? we try to use eventhandler init

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works for objects in eden

stuck oyster Apr 22, 2020, 10:50 PM

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no

white jay Apr 23, 2020, 7:33 PM

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A prop's LODs aren't changing, and FireGeometry isn't working (it's divided into components), bullets are going straight through. How do you set it to change LOD 0 to 1 at distance?

stuck oyster Apr 23, 2020, 7:39 PM

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lod changing is related to scene complexity not distance alone. if you got nothing else in the scene it might not change at all for a looong time

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firegeometry not working might be related to bad geometry lod also

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or your components in fire geo are not convex

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or possibly closed

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or its too big

white jay Apr 23, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Ok, wasn't aware of the first, that explains a lot

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Thanks

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As for the second, I'll take a second look at it

stuck oyster Apr 23, 2020, 7:43 PM

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there is a wiki page about LODs that explains what they need

tropic jewel Apr 24, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I am going to chuck this here as I am unsure if this is a config or model issue, I have created a Eotech sight with a magnifier, however, the reticle does not stay where the barrel is pointing (the center point) verified here with ACE day laser https://i.gyazo.com/bd17b58479dc3d7fc0278c7eacac6773.mp4 I am looking for it to stay centered like it does with something like this https://i.gyazo.com/9c843eaa1191bda73c6210f27d5d8f9e.mp4
I asked this the other day and HorribleGoat asked what my rvmat was, please find it below for the ViewPilot reticle texture (as I am guessing this is what is needed) this was given to me so Im not 100% sure how it works (or in this case why it doesnt), I still have not been able to fix this issue.

FogMode=Fog;
Ambient[]=     {50,50,50,1};
Diffuse[]=     {0,0,0,1};
Emmisive[]=     {10,10,10,0};
ForcedDiffuse[]=     {0,0,0,1};
Specular[]=     {0,0,0,1};
SpecularPower=8;
PixelShaderId=Collimator;
VertexShaderId=Basic;
renderFlags[] = {NoZWrite,AddBlend,NoReceiveShadow};
class TegGen0
{
    uvSource=9;
}; ```

blissful compass Apr 24, 2020, 2:40 PM

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does anyone know which config setting changes the speed a vehicle is allowed with it's tires destroyed?
edit found it:

dampingRateDamaged=1;
dampingRateDestroyed=1000;

junior saddle Apr 24, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Can someone help me jog my memory? I have a vehicle (eg. tank) with weighted vertices that need to flex slightly more or less. I've weighted them in OB, but I thik there was something else I needed to do to get it to work... like a parameter in the model.cfg maybe?

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nm. found it. I think I need to set the skeleton to isDiscrete = 0;

white jay Apr 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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https://ibb.co/G0jV8Lt

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new project i am working on. Probably going to take a while. This is a ship I sailed on

terse elm Apr 24, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Anyone had the issue when configing a tank where the smoke screen launchers make the sound but no smoke gets deployed?

stuck oyster Apr 24, 2020, 8:50 PM

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@terse elm I think that could be related to eventhandler inheritance

terse elm Apr 24, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@stuck oyster Fixed it, thx for the steer in the right direction

stuck oyster Apr 24, 2020, 10:04 PM

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👍 I recalled I have had same issue

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Can somebody help me out with this scope issue? I have made a little video to demonstrate the problem

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NHdvX-exeYYoelufV_aYUCI-ZMcGbfLC/view

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when a scope is equipped on the weapon, and you zoom in, the camera moves towards the center of the weapon and then switches to optic view

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how do I make the camera go towards the scope?

wispy sage Apr 25, 2020, 2:45 PM

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@ember ingot Do you have an opticView memory point for the scope?

stuck oyster Apr 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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if different zoom levels are enabled/configured, numpad +/- keys should alternate between them

north sundial Apr 25, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hey guys very quick couple of questions, if i want to define how a building sounds when shot do i apply a penetration material to it and if i wanna control how it sounds when someone walks on it do i apply a surface paa to the roadway?

stuck oyster Apr 25, 2020, 4:23 PM

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yes and yes

north sundial Apr 25, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Much appreciated

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@wispy sage Yes, I do have a opticView memory point set

rough idol Apr 25, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@ember ingot check for typos, it seems to be missing

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by default, camera is zooming on memoryPointCamera when aiming down sight

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@rough idol I can't find any typos, and I have set CameraDir to ="" and set a point in memoryPointCamera

rough idol Apr 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Share whole config then

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And could you show pić of memory lod?

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Sure

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of the scope right?

rough idol Apr 25, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Yes

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 8:19 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/eT9WXsH.png

rough idol Apr 25, 2020, 8:23 PM

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There is no geometry lod with autocenter =0?

ember ingot Apr 25, 2020, 8:26 PM

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whoops, let me fix that

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Alright, that didn't fix it

wispy sage Apr 25, 2020, 8:48 PM

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You also need a View-Pilot LOD. Stuff gets funky without it.

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Do you need to define pathways on models anywhere else or does naming the points in01 and pos01 etc do the trick?

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Naming in path lod is enough. Action points need config definitions thought

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Okay cool, current model im doing doesn't have actions, but for future reference, are the actions defined in useractions or somewhere else

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For the pathways

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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For that it's best to study the existing configs.

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Fair point will do, thanks 🙂

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 12:27 PM

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So my model is a separate ramp, platform, bridge and wall that are all walkable, do i need in positions at the top of the ramp for example

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and at the start and end of the wall

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 1:48 PM

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everywhere you want the paths to connect

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 1:52 PM

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gotcha, just didnt want ai teleporting to the top of a ramp or something

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 2:15 PM

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This is gonna sound dumb but, in arma if a two models have the same texture (i.e. a trim sheet or tillable texture), does the engine load the texture once or twice

mint oak Apr 26, 2020, 2:40 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/TuXRnHu.png Do you know how to fix it?

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 2:44 PM

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whats broken @mint oak

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@north sundial using same texture should be easier for performance yes

north sundial Apr 26, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Okay cool, i thought it was that way, but others in my team didnt think the engine worked that way

mint oak Apr 26, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@stuck oyster look at feet

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 2:47 PM

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oh the white thing? best to draw red pointy arrows at things you want looked at.

mint oak Apr 26, 2020, 2:48 PM

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ok sorry

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 2:48 PM

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anyway, missing model.cfg. missing weighting, missing autocenter 0 in geometry lod named parameters could be reasons

ember ingot Apr 26, 2020, 3:03 PM

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@wispy sage @rough idol Gentlemen, I thank you. It was fixed by putting a View-Pilot LOD on the gun

vernal lynx Apr 26, 2020, 9:25 PM

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hey there !
Any other relevant MULTIMAT tutorial appart from the one mondkalb made ?

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I just learned it supports alpha blending so I'm like "oh god what have I done"

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(please mention me I tend to forget to check back)

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@vernal lynx id say thats about it whats written down about it

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whats in the discord here

blissful spire Apr 26, 2020, 9:32 PM

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so im having issues with my turret not using my barrel mem points for firing. currently its using the middle of the model

vernal lynx Apr 26, 2020, 11:40 PM

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TY 🙏
I completly missed it after all those years stupid as I am 😦

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as I was doing terrain models quite rarely

stuck oyster Apr 26, 2020, 11:41 PM

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quite alright 😄 we all learn new things about arma all the time 😄

vernal lynx Apr 26, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I have a bunch to fix now haha !

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 1:02 AM

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I am so incredibly confused about packing my first model into the game. The model and all relevant LODs are setup correctly, texture is done and it keeps failing PBO packing saying that it cannot find the texture when I am staring it at, and it finds it once in the packing process anyway?

outer condor Apr 27, 2020, 1:17 AM

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@slender belfry post logs and screenshot(s) of the errors

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I can understand why it isn't working, it is because all of my configs are messed up. I was going to ask a question in #arma3_questions but i'll ask it here instead, I have checked a few modelling -> arma tutorials and they all cover building the model and doing the LODs which I can do, but they never cover creating the configs to get it inside of the editor. Would you happen to know of a tutorial that covers basic static object configs?

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Blender to Arma tutorial series probably has something about that. There are also sample models on Steam. "Arma 3 samples"

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 1:28 AM

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The actual software @stuck oyster or a steam workshop search?

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Google search would already given you the answer, but it's in the tools section of the library

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 1:29 AM

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got it, thank you 😄

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 1:30 AM

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👍 👍

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Still giving me a mission file summary 😦

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    basicDefines_A3.hpp :excluded
    config.bin :scanning
    config_macros_glass.hpp :excluded
    data\lw_stage_co.paa :scanning
    LW_Stage.p3d :validating...LW_Stage.p3d: missing \p:\lw_objects\lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa

    LW_Stage.p3d.dep :excluded
    texHeaders.bin :scanning
</end entries>
Missing File Summary
LW_Stage.p3d : \p:\lw_objects\lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa```

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My .cpp https://paste.ofcode.org/SjZNyZaEpbrYKTFVw2HJqh

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Ahhh i got it now. I didn't mass rename my textures

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Hmm, packing my textures is fine, but my texture doesn't actually load ingame or in object builder when I have taken the P off. When I put P on it works fine but I cannot pack. Do you need an RVMAT to be able to see yourr texture or not?

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Wich tool do you use to pack?

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@slender belfry

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:34 AM

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pboproject, dont think that'd matter anyway because i cannot see the texture in object builder

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(bulldozer*

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:35 AM

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taking the text from in account:
\p:\lw_objects\lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa <- wrong
\lw_objects\lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa <- correct (if you select lw_objects as the folder to pack)

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:35 AM

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yep that is how i am doing it, but it still will not load the texture

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i do not have a material though, maybe that is the case?

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Shouldn't matter.

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Wich folder do you pack?

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lw_objects or lw_stage?

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:36 AM

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lw_stage

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but when i do \lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa is goes red

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:37 AM

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red?

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:37 AM

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yeah in mass material & texture

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in object builder

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Texture is to the power of 2?

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2,4,8,16,64,128, ... 512, etc

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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1024

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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e.g. 256x512, 512x512

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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1024x1024

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its an exported uvmap from blender

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Wait, it goes red? Deselect everything in *ObjectBuilder. iirc it turns stuff red

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:39 AM

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https://gyazo.com/3cacd42d095e53fd76185140f42cb618

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when i rename it to lw_stage it goes red

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:39 AM

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ah

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:39 AM

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but when it is lw_objects it is fine

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but still doesn't load the texture

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if that makes sense

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:40 AM

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🤔

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:40 AM

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https://gyazo.com/07dddd366e8e56d161ae42198bc59c1d

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textureless

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:41 AM

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What if you select everything, press "E", change the path there?

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:41 AM

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https://gyazo.com/315d3f8dac30927892dca875ebbeb84b

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:42 AM

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one sec

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try to remove the leading \

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:45 AM

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just tried it, still no texture and also it stops it from packing

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could it be my file layout?

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https://gyazo.com/b3c29598ac9dac16f103a18cd86e1cb2

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:48 AM

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looks about right so far.

lw_objects\lw_stage\data\lw_stage_co.paa should to it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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(or i miss something, can happen. Haven't touched OB for a pretty long time)

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:49 AM

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does model.cfg need to have anything specific inside of it for a static object? maybe i have gone wrong there, this is new to me

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@wraith tendon if it makes it easier for you to debug i can zip my source up and send it?

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Can't do atm.

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:54 AM

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ok. this is what it says ingame also https://gyazo.com/a9c81ebcf11813396c161308b2a311b7

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:54 AM

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does model.cfg need to have anything specific inside of it for a static object? maybe i have gone wrong there, this is new to me
Not rly, no.

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Leading \ is still there

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 4:58 AM

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🤦‍♂️ works without the leading slash, thank you.. bulldozer tricked me to think it wasn't going to work

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Sometimes, you have to restart Bully

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It's a little whiny female dog*.

slender belfry Apr 27, 2020, 5:00 AM

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😂 thanks again. won't make the mistake of believing it next time

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 9:42 AM

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hey folks, I followed this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgymTnhZqWs just to try get my head around the process of importing tanks and, while I feel like I followed the entire video pretty well, whenever I actually try and drag the tank into the editor the game crashes, anyone who actually knows what they're doing wanna take a look at the files and see where the hell i've went wrong

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is there a common reasoning why it would crash when dragging to the editor or

quick terrace Apr 27, 2020, 2:45 PM

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could be a lot of reasons, both model and config related.

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easiest thing to do is simplify both for testing purposes , also checking the rpt

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if you want someone to have a look over your configs, best bet is to paste it over pastebin (model.cfg as well)

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and link it here

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@zenith wren ^^

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 2:50 PM

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checking the rpt?

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yeah I'll do that with the configs

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https://pastebin.com/ZJjJAarb - model.cfg

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it was all just the test_tank_01 configs but edited like the video above

quick terrace Apr 27, 2020, 3:03 PM

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class name of tanks is still
Test_Tank_01?

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:02 PM

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in cfgvehicleclasses?

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sorry I'm a major major noob just trying to wrap my head around this

quick terrace Apr 27, 2020, 4:43 PM

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a. what is the .p3d your using called
b. what is the class name you use for your tank

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c.if you are a major noob, what tank is it that you are trying to import into the game. is it a model you made?
@zenith wren

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:47 PM

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p3d is just test_tank_01, class name is unchanged, the model was a free model but obviously I wasn't gonna use or release that, it was simply for practice

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surely it shouldn't matter though in terms of technicality, if I made a cube in blender and followed the same process then theoretically it would still work right?

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@quick terrace

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:55 PM

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well no, a cube would be safe simple mesh that pretty much cant cause any issues

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where a random model could have stuff that is incompatible

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yeah, it has to be model related

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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does it load up in buldzozer?

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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as in object builder?

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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as in Object Builders game engine previewer

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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yeah it does

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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that is slightly more mysterious

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:57 PM

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the game doesn't throw any errors or such at me it just dies

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:58 PM

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well I would just replace your model wholly with a OB created cube and see what it likes from that

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did you start from the tank?

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or have you succesfully created a simpler static object with configs etc?

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:58 PM

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start from the tank

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followed the whole test_tank tutorial

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 4:59 PM

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bad move 😄

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 4:59 PM

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yeah probably lul

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I just wanted to see how 'simple' the process was to see if it was worth doing as a potential past time

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I mean I know there's nothing simple about the process

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but I wanted to see just how time consuming it would be

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Well theres not that much difference between the tank and simpler static object

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except simulation related stuff that needs to be correct

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so you are likely missing something related to that

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the model problem is simple to test by replacing it with cube though

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Battlestads videos are pretty good, he got quite a bit of experience under his belt.

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 5:02 PM

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yeah thats the one I followed

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I just don't know where I went wrong

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I guess I could test it with a cube

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 5:02 PM

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I would start from there

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process of elimination

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yeah, i'll do it at some point over the next couple of days got some uni stuff to work through

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is it cool if I ping you here when I get to it?

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 5:04 PM

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sure. Just remind me what its about if its few days later.

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 5:04 PM

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no problem, thank you!

north sundial Apr 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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what controls an object being able to be knocked over by a car? having an issue with a building atm and i cant see why its behaving differently than others that are configured the same

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/402858090233593858/704381714943836200/unknown.png

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like so

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 6:37 PM

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destruction/damage type

north sundial Apr 27, 2020, 6:41 PM

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In the config?

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 6:44 PM

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if its terrain object, then in the p3d

north sundial Apr 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Where abouts is it defined in the p3d, sorry its been a while since ive done config stuff for arma haha

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 6:47 PM

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named parameters in geometry lod...

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both have wikipages

north sundial Apr 27, 2020, 6:50 PM

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right got it

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much appreciated

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it was missing the properties completely

fluid ocean Apr 27, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@zenith wren as you have DMs disabled you will not have received the warning for profanity. Your post has been removed. Please read and abide by our #rules
Thank You

zenith wren Apr 27, 2020, 6:56 PM

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apologies, won't happen again 👍

muted dove Apr 27, 2020, 6:59 PM

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https://imgur.com/8JzijqR - Anyone got an idea why this is happening?

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the legs

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 6:59 PM

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bad weighting?

muted dove Apr 27, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Oh possibly

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 7:05 PM

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likely

muted dove Apr 27, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Ugh was hoping it was a quick config error hahha

stuck oyster Apr 27, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Dont think theres anything in the configs to affect model like that

white jay Apr 28, 2020, 12:24 AM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/228925-mv-ocean-freedom-project/?tab=comments#comment-3404751

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New mod i am working on!

quick terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:31 AM

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is this your first mod? @white jay ?

white jay Apr 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yep. Im sure its going to suck and or not going to work @quick terrace

quick terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:32 AM

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not necessarily

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just would have started with something smaller tbh

white jay Apr 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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@quick terrace I have a donut I'm experimenting with LMAO

quick terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:33 AM

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you need to have a look over splitting the mesh in parts

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so you can use multimats for textures

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not to say that the end model needs to be split in parts smaller than 50m so that the road and geo would work

white jay Apr 28, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I'm probably going to split the hull up into vertical sections along the frames to work with that

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The House is going to be the most difficult

quick terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:35 AM

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i was talking more about the interiors

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and by splitting i don’t mean actual seams in the mesh

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but having modules in mind from the get go

white jay Apr 28, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Okay i'll have a look at the meshing for that

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Thanks!

quick terrace Apr 28, 2020, 1:37 AM

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best of luck

tropic jewel Apr 28, 2020, 10:26 AM

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I am going to chuck this here as I am unsure if this is a config or model issue, I have created a Eotech sight with a magnifier, however, the reticle does not stay where the barrel is pointing (the center point) verified here with ACE day laser https://i.gyazo.com/bd17b58479dc3d7fc0278c7eacac6773.mp4 I am looking for it to stay centered like it does with something like this https://i.gyazo.com/9c843eaa1191bda73c6210f27d5d8f9e.mp4
I asked this the other day and HorribleGoat asked what my rvmat was, please find it below for the ViewPilot reticle texture (as I am guessing this is what is needed) this was given to me so Im not 100% sure how it works (or in this case why it doesnt), I still have not been able to fix this issue.

FogMode=Fog;
Ambient[]=     {50,50,50,1};
Diffuse[]=     {0,0,0,1};
Emmisive[]=     {10,10,10,0};
ForcedDiffuse[]=     {0,0,0,1};
Specular[]=     {0,0,0,1};
SpecularPower=8;
PixelShaderId=Collimator;
VertexShaderId=Basic;
renderFlags[] = {NoZWrite,AddBlend,NoReceiveShadow};
class TegGen0
{
    uvSource=9;
}; ```

frosty kraken Apr 29, 2020, 2:34 PM

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What units does the Arma 3 Object Builder use? Or can units be switched between different ones?

sturdy parcel Apr 29, 2020, 2:36 PM

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depends what you mean by 'unit'. any other p3d can be used as a proxy of another p3d. you could add a hotel to the left arm of a human if you wanted to.

frosty kraken Apr 29, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Hmm! Well, was thinking that what units (mm, px, points, picas, inch, you name it) are used by default.

quick terrace Apr 29, 2020, 3:01 PM

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meters

median bough Apr 29, 2020, 3:15 PM

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bananas

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😄

quick terrace Apr 29, 2020, 3:29 PM

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cannot be switched, it is always meters

glacial compass Apr 29, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Hello, would a kind soul be able to point me out to Ataboo's XM-25 source files? https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/146085-ataboos-xm-25-airbursting-grenade-launcher-ata_xm25/. The dropbox link is not working. Thanks a lot in advance
Cheers,
GFT

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 3:59 PM

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@glacial compass you probably wont find that anymore. the forum post is ancient.

glacial compass Apr 29, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Yes I was afraid so, but the weapon is on the Aegis mod so maybe there are some people still having the source on their files nd willing to share? Maybe

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 4:02 PM

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you got to ask the makers of aegis mod perhaps

glacial compass Apr 29, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Assuming this is the same model ofc

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 4:02 PM

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chances are 50/50

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but also if its already in aegis mod, why not just use that?

glacial compass Apr 29, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Because I'd like to avoid the dependancy, this is for a small project

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 4:05 PM

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you may want to consider either using something else or making the dependency

glacial compass Apr 29, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Probably need to find an alternative, unless I get lucky, indeed. Tx for your time

white jay Apr 29, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Any good comprehensive tutorials for modding? I'm a beginner

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I've been searching google and youtube for hours lol

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 9:17 PM

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nope

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I mean "modding" is way to broad term

white jay Apr 29, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I literally made a square "house" to test with

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how do i get this bitch into arma

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 PM

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well you could check out the BI forums editing section

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theres a pinned topic that could get you started

white jay Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Okay sweet i'll check it

stuck oyster Apr 29, 2020, 9:19 PM

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also PMCwiki for setting up the tools and development environment correctly

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theres likely never very specifc "how to put house in game" type tutorials

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but there are more general stuff that tell you the basics and give you the knowledge to deduce the rest

white jay Apr 29, 2020, 9:21 PM

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okay sweet thank u

ivory scaffold Apr 30, 2020, 9:49 AM

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hey guys i have a little question, how i can add a cullosion into a model with blender

noble hatch Apr 30, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Collision?

ivory scaffold Apr 30, 2020, 9:56 AM

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yes

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@noble hatch

noble hatch Apr 30, 2020, 9:57 AM

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You need a geometry lod

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Geometry

ivory scaffold Apr 30, 2020, 9:57 AM

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its hard to do that

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?

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 10:07 AM

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If you have to ask then, yes.

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As you would have to learn what it requires

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And how to do that.

hard grove Apr 30, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Hey I am new to modelling, I know it is allowed to use arma 2 models. once you download them is it also allowed/possible to use the models and put them in blender somehow? Want to open up some rooms :3

Or would I have to do it the old fashioned way and remake the whole building

noble hatch Apr 30, 2020, 11:33 AM

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arma toolbox for blender can import .p3ds

hard grove Apr 30, 2020, 11:48 AM

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ah okey

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 1:37 PM

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hello all so i am wondering what the "binarise crashed" error means when packing a pbo with a p3d in it. So I did some investigating and started removing lods from the p3d to see if it was a specific lod causing the error. So i eventually found out all the lods packed fine and that the view lod was causing the binarization to crash for what ever reason.

I have checked the bin log and its empty and pbo project throws no hints, no reasons, no nothing to point me in a direction to fixing what ever it is pbo project doesn't like about my view lod... It just said packing failed "binarise crashed". I have tried numerous things modeling wise to clean up the model triangulation, vertex cleanup, edge cleanup and nothing works.

Does anyone have any idea as to why pbo project wont allow this to pack like every other p3d?

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Possibly untriangulated nGons

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 3:20 PM

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nGons?

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are the view lods supposed to be packed triangulated?cuz it works both ways ive tried with no errors

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but what do u mean by nGons?

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Arma can handle quads and tris. nothing more.

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could be something else too

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how many verticles is it?

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have you tried it without textures or materials assigned?

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 3:23 PM

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no but i just retexture it with my own so i will test that now

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the vert count is 8.2k

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 3:23 PM

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textures correct resolution?

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 3:23 PM

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yes they all

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im checking the triangulation thing now that may be it

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 4:24 PM

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yea it was a triangulation thing im pretty sure it works now

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@stuck oyster

quick terrace Apr 30, 2020, 4:57 PM

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in general, is recommended to triangulate the mesh before baking

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and surely before getting it into OB

woeful viper Apr 30, 2020, 4:58 PM

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(and afterwards too)

quick terrace Apr 30, 2020, 4:59 PM

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@woeful viper ?

woeful viper Apr 30, 2020, 5:00 PM

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sometimes when you import in OB, quads that where triangulated but flat can be "optimized" apparently and are no longer triangulated

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i know i do it it blender always. I just forgot to do it for this specific p3d and pbo porj doesn't say anything about triangulation error if u were to pack it and w/o triangulating it. It just says binarize crash and i now know what that means

woeful viper Apr 30, 2020, 5:00 PM

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maybe its just with .3ds (as i mainly use this for import)

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its a bit random it seems

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:06 PM

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just for the record the "binarize crashed" error can also be a texture issue as well

quick terrace Apr 30, 2020, 5:16 PM

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what are you trying to bin @clever ibex

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?

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@clever ibex you using the free Mikero tools?

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:26 PM

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no im using the paid ones

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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they updated?

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:27 PM

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no there out of date by a few weeks i havent been at this in a while

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did he change that in a new update?

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:28 PM

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not sure but theres been quite many updates this year

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there are lot of new more specific error messages

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i just updated them now

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:29 PM

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of course sometimes stuff just cant be pinpointed accurately

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:30 PM

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now my command line is screwed up from updating them 😉 so all my scripts need to be changed

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yea i will run it tho n see if it says anything specific

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i guess -W=P:\ is no longer an option

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:35 PM

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whazzat?

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check the documentation

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:36 PM

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that was an old parameter that used to work with old mikero pbo proj but is no longer used i guess

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:38 PM

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best to ask the man himself for such info

clever ibex Apr 30, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i already figured out no need to he changed some command line parameters is all. I fixed it on my end it works

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but thx for the help as always 👍

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 5:40 PM

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👌

white jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Anyone here assigning textures & rvmats with fhq toolbox in blender? the documentation ive found on friedenhq.org is glossing over it a bit and the way I'm using it it's assigning to every face that hasn't got a texture yet instead of just the faces i've selected. Anyone figured this out?

granite maple Apr 30, 2020, 7:35 PM

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anyone know any good building packs

quick terrace Apr 30, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@white jay to be honest assigning them in ob is not so time consuming either

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@granite maple what?

granite maple Apr 30, 2020, 7:38 PM

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nvm

white jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I get some sort of obnoxious jitter when adjusting the viewport while blender is running buttery smooth - also after building my model in blender for almost two months now I'm much more firm and quick on the controls and wouldn't mind doing the assigning in there since it appears to be possible

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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you assign multiple materials on your model and for each you assign a corresponding Arma material

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if you have only 1 material on the model Blender assigns that on all your mesh

ivory scaffold Apr 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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hey guys if someone have a tutorial for geometry lod

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it will be nice

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🙂

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beacuse i am stuck with making Collision

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@stuck oyster

noble hatch Apr 30, 2020, 8:06 PM

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what are you stuck with?

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@ivory scaffold

ivory scaffold Apr 30, 2020, 8:12 PM

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i dont know how to make lods

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for the model

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in object builder

stuck oyster Apr 30, 2020, 8:17 PM

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You might have better luck using whatever program you modeled the original model.

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there are not much in the way of tutorials for OB itself

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its pretty cumbersome program to use

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there are couple of good tutorials on how to put stuff into the game on the BI forums editing section

quick terrace Apr 30, 2020, 8:31 PM

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collision as in geo lod?

noble hatch Apr 30, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@quick terrace https://gyazo.com/dd93b0fb272e50b704706e45c8f06439

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I'm trying to walk him thorugh it

white jay Apr 30, 2020, 11:12 PM

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@stuck oyster so, considering that I had the windows of my vehicle set up in obj and imported the p3d back to blender, all non-window surfaces were considered 'one material' (no material at all) and were assigned my second material and texture?
If no material is counted as a material too then I'd say I understand what the principle is.
Cheers for the Explanation, I'll go back into my dark testing corner until I run into a wall again ;)

minor ridge May 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Guys if i want to make a modpack having others mods inside it like Adv pike edition and ace splint sorta thing. So how to do it

ivory scaffold May 1, 2020, 8:24 AM

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hey guys what kind of lod i need to use for interior

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?

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 10:23 AM

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interior of what?

polar bone May 1, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Hi mates, what should I for my building to cast diffused shadows? They're razor-sharp atm

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stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Sbsource visualex. No need for shadowlod either.

polar bone May 1, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Huh, so I can delete shadowVolume lod?

polar bone May 1, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Works like a charm, thanks goat 🙂

subtle timber May 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Yesterday I've succesfully imported an object in to Arma, however when I rotate it it goes from normal to very dark

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It has a shadowlod which works, no shadow rips either

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I think it's something to do with the RVMAT

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Pics?

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 4:03 PM

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@polar bone ideally, if the building density is high, you would have a SVLod and use that together with visualex

polar bone May 1, 2020, 4:35 PM

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@quick terrace thanks for the hint! So, SV 0.000 + visualex in geo?

ivory scaffold May 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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interior of what?
@quick terrace
for buildings

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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visual lods

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there are no special lods required like pilot, cargo etc

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@ivory scaffold

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@polar bone need to check

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not sure what the named property was. visualex on its own uses the first visual LOD afaik

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but you can have soft shadows generated by svlod, or rather not the top most (highest density) visual lod

ivory scaffold May 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@quick terrace
what kinds of visual lods?

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?

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i don’t get the question

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the lods for arma can be divided into visual lods and geometry lods (very generic)

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first category is what the users see ingame

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secondary category is how the engine uses /interprets the objects the users sees

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD

LOD

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you need the res/visual lods + geo + mem + roadway + path + SVLod at a minimum

polar bone May 1, 2020, 5:00 PM

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So if I use visualEx with a model that has SV lod, then it'll use SV to generate soft shadows instead of res lod, am I getting it right?

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:00 PM

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fire and view lods as well depending on what the building is, complexity etc

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@polar bone no, afaik, if you use visualex with a model that already has a SVLod

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will use res/visual lods to generate these buffer shadows

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anyways

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i am trying to say that there might be cases where the complexity of the first res lod is pretty high

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and it would be better to have either a secondary res lod or a custom SVlod

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drive these shadows

polar bone May 1, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Oh, ok, now I get it 🙂 Thanks!

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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but i can’t remember by heart the named properties required to achieve that

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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In modelling a weapon, I've set up selections and axis for range zeroing sight movement, but cant find any hint of it being used in the sample weapon modelg or config.
Can anyone point me in the right direction with how zeroing is supposed to be done? Thanks

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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because vanilla A3 models don't use zeroing @noble hatch

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not for ironsights anyways

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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oh lol, shows how much I use em

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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which is what the question was

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i suppose

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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it is yes

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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we use em in RHS, reyhard came up with the idea, but it is a bit of a pain to adjust (as in you need to do it manually by testing it)

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Is it done for any iron sights?

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ah cool

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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afaik, it is done for all custom weapons yes

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that allow ironsight zerowing that is

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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how can I learn about how its done?

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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short version, you animate the sights to line up - front post, rear sight and a multitude of eye mem points

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but again, it needs to be tested and slowly adjusted to get the bullet drop to be where the sight is pointing at

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or in fact, the contrary

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:36 PM

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So thats what I'd been expecting

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but is there anywhere i can look to learn about the bits and bobs like animation source to use, config for the eye points etc?

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(Thankyou very much for your help btw)

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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The A3 sample weapon has underbarrel launcher

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which is set up with zeroing I recall

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

Model Config

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then the wiki is the best source for basic stuff

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Is it worth looking at the released Arma 2 stuff to learn how its done?

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thanks HG

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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dont remember if A2 had much of that done

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the sample weapons should be enough to get you started with it I think

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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yup, you're right, found what I need with the underslung in the samples. Thanks again

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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here is MK17 model.cfg if it helps:
https://pastebin.com/RRduyhiz

Pastebin

#define BULLET_HIDE(x,from,count) class Bullet##x\ {\ type...

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and AKM
https://pastebin.com/wku7uZqV

Pastebin

class CfgSkeletons { class Default; class rhs_rifle_skeleton; ...

noble hatch May 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Cheers PuFu, thats really handy

quick terrace May 1, 2020, 5:51 PM

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on the M17 it is a bit more complicated, since it the back sights is a bit more complicated in itself to operate than the trusty AKs

subtle timber May 1, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Pics?
@stuck oyster Sorry for the late reply

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333206752570900480/705918069674999858/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333206752570900480/705918093850837092/unknown.png

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Here's my issue

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Uploading my Rvmat to pastebin rn

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 11:07 PM

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could be a vertex normal or normalmap issue

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or maybe smoothing issue

subtle timber May 1, 2020, 11:08 PM

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https://pastebin.com/PPn8hWQ8

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This is my RVMAT

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 11:10 PM

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what does the normalmap texture look like?

subtle timber May 1, 2020, 11:13 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333206752570900480/705919744259260596/unknown.png

stuck oyster May 1, 2020, 11:16 PM

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what does the vertex normals look like in OB

subtle timber May 1, 2020, 11:33 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333206752570900480/705924824857313320/unknown.png

vernal lynx May 2, 2020, 2:19 PM

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shading issue

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assign sharp edges in blender before your export

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I weighted a spring from a cfgWeapons gun, yet it doesnt seam to apply with isDiscrete=0; set in its skeleton 🤔

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is bulldozer even able to preview this correctly?

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 2:55 PM

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No

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Weighted anims work only in live game

vernal lynx May 2, 2020, 3:00 PM

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tttsss thanks for confirmation

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I was loosing hair 😄

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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hey, sorry, can anyone here help me with rigging?

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i dont understand how to do that for arma at all

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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rigging of what?

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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clothes

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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do you have experience how it works in general? or in other games?

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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i've done it few times for TF2

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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then tehcnically its the same thing

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weighted vertexgroups that match the Arma animation skeleton

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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https://imgur.com/8QMYHbT

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dont mind the vest, its for fixing clipping issues

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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was there a question related to the pic btw?

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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yes

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this is what im trying to rig

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so far, i've tried weight transfer

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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ah, well I answered that above

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well that usualy works as a startingpoint yes

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is there like a problem with that or something?

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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How can i check the rig without booting into game

stuck oyster May 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

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you will need a arma character compatible rig/armature

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Macsers Armarig can be used for that for example

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or you can make your own

fast lily May 2, 2020, 5:40 PM

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thanks

past canopy May 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@fast lily did you rip that chestrig from tarkov

fast lily May 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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no

past canopy May 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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k

fast lily May 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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but, i'm tarkov fan, you got me on that

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I got a weird issue with a custom uniform model, the weapon IK seems to have suddenly stopped working on it

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like if I select a weapon the left hand is just sitting in the default position and not on the gun

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if I switch to a different uniform that hand is in the right place as it should be

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is there something in the p3d that could be missing that would prevent the IK from working?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:43 PM

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missing proxies

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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which proxy is needed for ik?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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well weapon proxy I suppose 😄

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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from looking at another p3d I seem to have all those basic proxies

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:56 PM

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then not that

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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is it possible that it would not work if there's maybe a duplicate or something?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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perhaps your weighting is incorrect

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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on the mesh?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yes

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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how would that affect it?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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no weight == no movement

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I mean does the mesh need to be weighted in some specific way for IK to work?

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cause all the rigging appears fine

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I don't have anything weighted to some of the roll bones and it looks like those bone objects get removed by object builder, could that cause it?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:03 PM

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this is still a Arma man type character?

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:03 PM

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yeah

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:04 PM

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what do you mean by "bone objects get removed by object builder"

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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like in the selections list where you can see all the objects and bones and stuff, the arm roll ones aren't there after opening the p3d again

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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thats weird

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I assume object builder removes selections that don't have anything assigned to them

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:05 PM

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no it should not

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:08 PM

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the weirdest thing is that the same model was working and then as I was tweaking things with the model and weights and stuff after just a random one of those tweaks it stopped working

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even though it wasn't any major changes

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:08 PM

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perhaps just re-export it into new p3d

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maybe it corrupted

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I tried that actually, I copied another p3d that was working and the copied the mesh over onto that one and it didn't help

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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well if you set your config to use another working model what happens?

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it maybe could be some sort of weird config issue too

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do any weapon animations work on it?

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yeah animations all work just fine

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it's just the left hand IK on guns

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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all guns?

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perhaps something wrong in the model.cfg then

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1.] test by changing the config model = to something that you know works

orchid spruce May 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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it's the same model.cfg I've been using for everything, and other uniforms that use the same model.cfg work fine

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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2.] copy the model.cfg from some other working uniform and rename classes so they fit

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 10:07 PM

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http://prntscr.com/sacfov

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333206752570900480/705924824857313320/unknown.png
Can I not use the assign hard edges in O2 instead?

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 10:13 PM

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well sure but you dont want all the edges to be sharp

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just the sharper corner ones

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selecting the ones you actually want would be many times faster in BLender

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Does this go for every LOD?

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Or just the first

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I assume all

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 10:15 PM

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All that you want to look correct I suppose

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Alright, I'll try it out

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I would test on the first one that it fixes the issue thouh

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Did not seem to fix it

stuck oyster May 3, 2020, 10:59 PM

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did you try recalculating the normals in OB yet?

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Also its possible your ground normalmap is actually wrong made

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try some vanilla rock texture or something like that

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Yeah I just set up a new one

subtle timber May 3, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Also does not work for some reason

ivory scaffold May 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Hey guys can someone tell me what kind of lod i need to use for building interior?

ivory scaffold May 4, 2020, 5:49 AM

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@white jay

white jay May 4, 2020, 5:51 AM

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note that I'm a novice myself and only slowly building my first vehicle, but the way I understand it you'd just put it in your custom 0 lod together with your high quality exterior and gradually simplify it along with the exterior in the following customXX lods @ivory scaffold
If there's an actual cargoview lod for buoldings I stand corrected, and slightly confused

ivory scaffold May 4, 2020, 5:52 AM

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so what you saying that i can use view cargo lod for my interior

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?

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@white jay

white jay May 4, 2020, 5:58 AM

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don't think so, quite sure that's only for mounted passengers

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 8:57 AM

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There is no separate interior lod for buildings. Check Arma 3 samples on steam for reference

polar bone May 4, 2020, 9:30 AM

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What could be the cause for paths lod not working correctly? Positions are not showing up, despite having pos# named selections

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 1:52 PM

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@ivory scaffold i already answered that for you 2 times already

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you don’t need a separate lod for interior. it’s all in visual lods

hard grove May 4, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Hello guys, Im still new to arma 3 moddeling. I have been trying to make a server logo to start of easy. But when I export from blender into a .p3d it only shows 1 letter. The whole logo is 1 object in blender already

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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how do you export

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did you collapse your modifiers etc before export

hard grove May 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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File -> export -> arma .p3d
https://prnt.sc/saqd2c

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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etc

hard grove May 4, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I'll double check my modifiers. Give me a minute

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 2:02 PM

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are the letters actual mesh?

hard grove May 4, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Like this you mean: https://prnt.sc/saqh02

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Should they all be connected with a line for it to export in 1 object maybe?

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 2:06 PM

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no that should work

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you are perhaps missing textures or something like that if they are invisible

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are you packing with pboManager?

hard grove May 4, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I have not done anything yet with pbo-ing. I have just exported the blender into an .p3d and opening it within the object builder

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 2:08 PM

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oh so they dont show in OB then

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right ok

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so which one of them does show?

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also did you join them as 1 object

hard grove May 4, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Only the 'E' shows

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I combined them into one object. saved it and then tried to export

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the 'E' was the second object made before I combined them

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 2:26 PM

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how did you combine them?

hard grove May 4, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Control + J

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But I don't know what I did now. I got a loading error now

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Trying to figure out what I did now

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https://imgur.com/a/U3hi68Z

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I now have this error

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Don't know why my toolbox is missing suddently

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 2:56 PM

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your object does not have the arma properties enabled anymore

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you have likley been opening older P3D that only exported that 1 part

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and the changes you have now made have not exported at all

polar bone May 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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I'm making custom pond. It looks good, but it doesn't behave like water, meaning I can't swim in it, instead I just run under the surface 😄 I checked the A2 samples, but I still don't know what I'm doing wrong

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 3:39 PM

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water material on roadway lod

hard grove May 4, 2020, 3:39 PM

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HorribleGoat thanks for your help. I will try to sort this out when I have motivation again..

polar bone May 4, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I've applied a3\data_f\penetration\water.rvmat to roadway lod, but it didn't help 😐

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@ivory scaffold this is what you need

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#.3Cresolution.3E

LOD

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also, have a loo over samples

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 4:05 PM

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not the penetration material.

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the surface texture thing

polar bone May 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Thanks Horrible, now it works 🙂

ivory scaffold May 4, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@quick terrace
yes i am already saw that but i dont know what you mean when you say visual lod

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 4:08 PM

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lod 0.000 1.000 2.000 etc

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the lods that you actually see

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visually in game

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 4:09 PM

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visual lods = res lods, or whatever you wanna call em

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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any idea why is the light from flashpoint so weird? need more lines (faces) in my model?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/706936879232057344/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/706937419118805052/unknown.png

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 6:47 PM

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@oak lintel nope, it needs to be traingulated, and it needs to have proper hard faces set

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might also be

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due to no SVLod present (wild guess)

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah but i have it in the p3d triangulatet and is hard surface 😮

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 6:48 PM

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screen from OB?

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 6:48 PM

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yeah sec

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/706940699362459758/unknown.png

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svlod is shadowLOD?

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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SVLod is indeed Shadow Volume lod

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try that, or just use sbsource = visualex

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to generate shadow buffer from the res lod

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and try again

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 7:00 PM

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yeah i try at the moment sbsource = visualex

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 7:00 PM

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hmmm....

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can you check vertex normals quickly?

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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moment. i try first sbsource = visualex 🙂

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 7:01 PM

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as you can see, the lighting issues is showing these triangles you have on faces

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 7:10 PM

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the normals looking good
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/706945907064700958/unknown.png

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 7:48 PM

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the lightning is generated from the rvmat yeah? Maybe AS?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294232104265449472/706955363647488030/unknown.png with rvmat from my tent the flashlight worked

vagrant monolith May 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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how do I prevent my plate carrier from stretching when an unit is wearing it?

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idle pose its fine, but if I kneel it stretches and distorts itself

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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needs proper weighting

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some stretching will always happen though

vagrant monolith May 4, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I know, but I didnt think it would be this extreme on my first model 😅

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 8:26 PM

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did you test it at all before throwing it in game?

vagrant monolith May 4, 2020, 8:30 PM

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well, I modeled it in blender, then imported to object builder, took a look at example vest and made the leftarm, leftshoulder etc etc, but I have some trouble selecting the right vertices for them because the mesh is quite complex.
Then I made model.cfg and then added the vest to my modpack and got it to show ingame with textures and all, the stretching is quite extreme currently, but I think if I manage to tweak the points it will stabilize

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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yes that is not the right way to do it

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that way the weight applies 100 on each verticle

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instead of it going smootly

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you will want to look into weight transfer too in Blender

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and import the sample vest and transfer weights from it to your new vest

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and then you will need to tweak the weighted selections with the weight paint tool in Blender

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@oak lintel unlikely to be AS

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but you can put the procedural value instead of the texture and try it out

oak lintel May 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

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yeah i try it out in the next time. 🙂 thx

quick terrace May 4, 2020, 11:04 PM

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@oak lintel also, where did you stick these named properties

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considering you have no geo lod?

karmic silo May 4, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Hey, so I have been working on a ship mod, I keep getting an issue when I change the weight on a single object in the geometry it either fixes it and the character no longer falls though the deck. Or it breaks it and break another part of the ship next to it causing the character to fall. Any ideas?

stuck oyster May 4, 2020, 11:45 PM

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safe model x y dimensions are 50 meter radius