#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 142

bold flare Oct 30, 2019, 2:32 PM

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so. yes.

edgy cobalt Oct 30, 2019, 2:32 PM

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oh, thx

stuck oyster Oct 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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If you get that big pbo you are most likely packing something wrong in there

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Like raw tgas

woeful viper Oct 30, 2019, 4:51 PM

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gotta get all the stolen goods in one haul

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 5:27 PM

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Anyone able to point me to tutorial or something on how to import buildings and structures into arma?

misty urchin Oct 30, 2019, 5:31 PM

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As in how to format the models? How to do the configs? What part are you having issues with?

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 5:45 PM

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well i have no idea how to do any of it i purchased a model of a modern house on turbosquid. but now i need to figure out how to get it in game

misty urchin Oct 30, 2019, 5:46 PM

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facepalm

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Hopefully they aren't really stolen assets.

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 5:46 PM

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tbh i have no idea

misty urchin Oct 30, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Turbosquid and cheap model sites are often a roll of the dice unfortunately. I don't have any good tutorials that come to mind for a building specifically, I'm sure someone else has a better idea and will chime in eventually.

median bough Oct 30, 2019, 5:49 PM

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@primal phoenix
what experience do you have with arma modding and 3D development?

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also, how much was the model?

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 5:50 PM

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free actually https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/small-usa-house-3d-model-1247424

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i have minimal modding experience . ive barley touched much in modeling. all i really kind of know is how to texture on blender

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besides that my only experience comes from building cities and stuff

median bough Oct 30, 2019, 5:54 PM

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once you have watched some videos from blender guru, gained some basic knowledge about model and texturing work, you might be able to get the model textured and game ready... in 2-3 months i guess

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never skip the basics...

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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well i know how to use blender just don't know how to import into arma i thought ur question regarding experience was about arma not everything in general @median bough

median bough Oct 30, 2019, 8:55 PM

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here are some videos that might help you to understand
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/207631-from-blender-to-arma-3-complete-process-tutorial/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

From Blender to ArmA 3 - Complete process tutorial

Hello, As I had many requests, I did this all-in-one tutorial I am sharing today. I hope it will be helpful to you. All important stages are available in videos description. I will try to make more tutorials in the future, so dont hesitate to guide me to parts of the videos t...

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if you haven't installed it by now, get arma toolbox for blender

primal phoenix Oct 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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yeah i have that installed thanks a lot appreciate the help 🙂 @median bough

median bough Oct 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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👍
those videos are not about buildings, but enough to get an idea i guess

white jay Oct 31, 2019, 5:50 AM

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are there any blender arma 3 presets?

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for making like shadow lods etcx

stuck oyster Oct 31, 2019, 7:44 AM

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No

white jay Oct 31, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Arma 3 toolbox for blender

stuck oyster Oct 31, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Toolbox has different lod types that can be assigned for each lod object yes.

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In the Arma properties dialog

median bough Oct 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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but afaik no shadow lod creation preset, if that was the question...

stuck oyster Oct 31, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Not sure what a preset would mean in this case really. Like theres no such thing for modeling anything

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what I understood was the LOD parameter itself was the missing thing

median bough Oct 31, 2019, 7:07 PM

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if so, toolbox it is

jade rock Oct 31, 2019, 10:10 PM

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is it possible to be able to layer textures, so the same selection but 2 different layers in textures ? meaning I could have a vinyl and a paint layer.

stuck oyster Oct 31, 2019, 11:15 PM

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no

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you will have to "dumb down" your workflow to a lot older technology

hushed umbra Nov 1, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Would anyone know where to source a copy of Odec3D's AN/PEC-15 model /textures? I've asked him but he's lost the file over the years. Don't know if this is the right channel to ask but seems like a good place to start

stuck oyster Nov 1, 2019, 7:41 AM

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Model you can't have if the source is lost
The texture you can extract from the pbo.

tropic jewel Nov 1, 2019, 8:09 AM

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I am in the middle of importing a vest model into Arma, within Blender I have each of the materials setup and assigned to different parts of the model. However I am unable to see the Arma Toolbox Material Settings in the settings at the side, I can see them on the sample models. When I load the model in game I can apply a texture to the model but it only applies to the vest section. Can anyone tell me what I have done wrong that could cause this issue?
My model and settings: https://i.gyazo.com/60cc7c0afaffc0d7a4322174a59d66cc.png
Sample model settings: https://gyazo.com/60cc7c0afaffc0d7a4322174a59d66cc
Model in game: https://gyazo.com/cd4594f28eae0e02f23ab2c51f783ddd

stuck oyster Nov 1, 2019, 8:47 AM

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You've likely unwrapped it wrong or to separate uvsets.

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Each Blender material would also have their own Arma material settings.

tropic jewel Nov 1, 2019, 10:23 AM

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OK, so I got the base texture working, all I needed to do was restart blender and I got the Arma Toolbox Material Settings in the settings at the side, how can I setup my model so that I am able to change the textures within the config, for example like

hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"506th_gear_vests\data\customs\Texture_PistolHolster.paa","506th_gear_vests\data\customs\Texture_PistolHolster.paa","506th_gear_vests\data\customs\Texture_PistolHolster.paa","506th_gear_vests\data\customs\Texture_PistolHolster.paa"};

https://i.gyazo.com/93fa097496e83b7c51aedfb8f212ebc7.png
I currently have vertex groups setup for each that correspond to each uvmap and when I use the above code again, only the vest changes (which is labeled as camo), any ideas on this issue?

outer condor Nov 1, 2019, 5:37 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/165841157350227968/632483332290248736/20191011192247_1.jpg

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getting the issue that the turret/commander view position is sometime off - anyone see such issue yet with vanilla or other mods?

woeful viper Nov 1, 2019, 7:15 PM

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i get it with driver sometimes on mission start/ spawn, first time you are in optic view position, but the overlay isnt there

stuck oyster Nov 1, 2019, 7:32 PM

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possiby the proxy animation is not completely straight

rough idol Nov 1, 2019, 9:57 PM

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@outer condor turn in/out spamming?

kindred oak Nov 1, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Sorry, I'm kind of new here. How do you open a p3d file?

bold flare Nov 1, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Arma 3 tools object builder

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or Blender toolbox

median bough Nov 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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as long as it is your model and it is not binarized

stuck oyster Nov 1, 2019, 11:36 PM

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☝ meaning if it's unpacked from a pbo you can't open it.

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@kindred oak

kindred oak Nov 1, 2019, 11:36 PM

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oh well damn

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appreciate the answers

median bough Nov 1, 2019, 11:37 PM

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and before the question comes up: no, you are not allowed to debinarize models that are no yours or do not have explicit permission

kindred oak Nov 1, 2019, 11:37 PM

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ok

bold flare Nov 1, 2019, 11:38 PM

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🍿

stuck oyster Nov 1, 2019, 11:39 PM

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And if you are making retextures, those are made with configs if the model is build to support hiddenselections. If not it can't be done.

kindred oak Nov 1, 2019, 11:40 PM

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yeah i've got retextures down, was just hoping to make a new model without going from scratch

median bough Nov 1, 2019, 11:40 PM

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you need to go for the "from scratch" way then

kindred oak Nov 1, 2019, 11:40 PM

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understood

outer condor Nov 2, 2019, 3:26 AM

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@rough idol as X3KJ mentioned it happens right at mission start. can happen during play too
it doesnt always happen - it seems something is triggering it

quaint mason Nov 2, 2019, 5:16 AM

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Does anyone know where I can find an example model.cfg for a mortar or howitzer?

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 7:42 AM

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You can try mikeros eliteness, but there's nothing special in those model.cfgs. @quaint mason

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It's all the same stuff with translation and rotation animations as any other vehicle.

outer condor Nov 2, 2019, 11:14 AM

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it seems the proxy position issue is partially related to your weapon/anim stance

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like the weapon up pistol or launcher without weapon appears to cause it (too?)

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Ive had similar where the driver/gunner/etc action animations head bone has been misaligned and lookig a bit sideways

woeful viper Nov 2, 2019, 12:48 PM

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head alighnment isnt the same - it uses the view driver memory point, where normally the overlay would be drawn, but doesnt draw the overlay. The view is way forward of the tank.

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i have a head alighnment issue with a pilot animation, but that is consistent. (noticeable because it doesnt line up with the crosshair/ way the shots are going in the crosshair. How did you fix the head alignment? just rtm? Because in rtm everything is straight from what i see

quaint mason Nov 2, 2019, 5:02 PM

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@stuck oyster eliteness, forgot about that. thanks

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 6:01 PM

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as said though, theres nothing special in those that you could not write with the example of the tank or car

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 6:20 PM

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hi, when i build my pbo and bin it, scripts cant be found

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any idea why?

median bough Nov 2, 2019, 6:21 PM

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what tools are you using?

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 6:21 PM

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addon builder

median bough Nov 2, 2019, 6:21 PM

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AAAAAAAAAA

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fail

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i guess i should use pboPoject?

median bough Nov 2, 2019, 6:22 PM

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1:
https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive
2:
use pboProject, and nothing else

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 6:22 PM

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aight Thanks

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its not creating any pbos?

median bough Nov 2, 2019, 6:41 PM

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and?

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what is happening?

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what do the logs say?

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 6:41 PM

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nothing just that its done

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its just converting to bin

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 6:48 PM

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@near osprey do you have p drive set up?

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yes

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but im not outputting it in p drive

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 7:44 PM

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yeah thats the correct way

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what does the pboProject console say?

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it usually tells you what the problem is

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or the logs

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 7:50 PM

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it doesnt log any errors

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1 sec

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Whats the average poly/faces for good buildings

bold flare Nov 2, 2019, 7:55 PM

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the best buildings have the least polygons needed to look good

stuck oyster Nov 2, 2019, 7:55 PM

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☝

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there are no average numbers

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building is too vague concept

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a shed is a building

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and a multi storey hotel is a building

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if you always follow the rule of thumb Dedmen said, you should end up with as good as it can be model

near osprey Nov 2, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Aight Thank you

hushed umbra Nov 3, 2019, 11:16 AM

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have an issue where the shadows on an optic appear on the wrong side, eg the side closer to the light source is dark, but the other side is bright. would this be something I can fix in the rvmat or in the model?

clever forum Nov 3, 2019, 1:52 PM

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hello its normal i can't import FBX model on Object Builder ?

stuck oyster Nov 3, 2019, 1:54 PM

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no

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your OB settings likely lack the path to DLL parameter

clever forum Nov 3, 2019, 1:56 PM

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i have reinstall the arma 3 tool and i have the same problem

stuck oyster Nov 3, 2019, 1:57 PM

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you will probably have to set it yourself

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also dont run OB from the tools launcher

south ridge Nov 3, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I work, work and understand that I need a reactor model. Damn reactor from the frostpunk game. Colossal and complex work is coming ... Uff ...

stuck oyster Nov 3, 2019, 3:12 PM

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?

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not adviceable to take models from other games.

eternal bloom Nov 3, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Anyone facing normals issues when exporting a model from Blender 2.80 using Alwarren's ArmAToolbox 3.0.3 ?

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when I open my P3D with OB all my normals are facing downward

stuck oyster Nov 3, 2019, 3:53 PM

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is your path to 02script correctly set up?

eternal bloom Nov 3, 2019, 3:57 PM

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ok...

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I ended up with a path like ..\..\..\..\..\..\..\..\..\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\ObjectBuilder\O2Script.exe which for some reason (...) was not valid

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surprised it still managed to write a P3D

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thanks

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now I have perfectly lit ugly models 🙂

stuck oyster Nov 3, 2019, 4:03 PM

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👌

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 6:00 AM

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Is there something wrong with placing my model in TB cause when I load the game up and try to open the door of the model that was placed in TB and it doesn’t work, but I’m the same session if I place it through eden the doors work? Anyone know why

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 8:43 AM

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yes. you are missing correctly set up land_ prefixed config

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there is a wiki page for that

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 6:50 PM

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I added land_ into the models config, and added named prop house aswell but its still not working when its been played in TB

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but still works if place in eden

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:06 PM

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did you follow the BI wiki page for land prefix?

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:06 PM

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i believe so

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i must've missed something

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:06 PM

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possibly

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does the house have class = house named parameter?

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:07 PM

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i added map house class house house map

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yeah

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https://i.imgur.com/Dynnsw5.png

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this is for LOD 0

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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does the land_classname match with the p3d name

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no those go into the geometry lod

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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like the model its calling?

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only in GEO?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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yes

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unless you have no geo

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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i have 3 in geo

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not 4

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:08 PM

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house map

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is not a parameter

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:09 PM

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its map house right?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:09 PM

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the others are and should be only in the geometry lod

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yes

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there is named prameters wiki page too

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the sample house is good for comparison

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:11 PM

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okay, so i got rid of all the named properites on everything but GEO

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what exactly should be in geo

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just those?

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damge no class house and map house?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:11 PM

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there are more you can use if you need to

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but those would be essential ones

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:12 PM

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okay

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:12 PM

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does your land_ class inherit from class house_f?

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:12 PM

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would any of those stop the doors from opening?

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i dont think so i sent land on all the classes

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:12 PM

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that does not sound right

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:13 PM

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ill show u one sec

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:13 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/The_Land_xx_class

The Land xx class

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:13 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/H7KjXhD.png

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:13 PM

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this page explains how you need to set it up

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:14 PM

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thats the class for the bunker im trying to set up

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I hope these are your bunkers and not the ones stolen from bludclot

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:14 PM

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nope i made them

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:15 PM

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look closely to the wiki page and compare to your config

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:15 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/dWp2rhb.jpg

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:15 PM

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the problem is quite obvious

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and I also asked about it already

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:16 PM

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okay but do u see anything that i should change?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:16 PM

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yes

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but I want you to find it

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because you will need to learn to see the issues

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:16 PM

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ur one of those hard teachers i seee

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:16 PM

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indeed

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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oh

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h

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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the solution is in the first config example box in that page

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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is it cause the land isnt the same as the P3d?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:17 PM

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that would be my conclusion

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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alright ill try it cheers

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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also

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please tag your models

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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wym?

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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p3d called bunker

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is asking for compatibility trouble

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when someone else makes p3d called "bunker"

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always

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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so like AR_Bunker

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gotcha

stuck oyster Nov 4, 2019, 7:18 PM

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always add a tag to all your files

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except config and model.cfg

white jay Nov 4, 2019, 7:19 PM

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okay okhandbutflipped

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ill test her out

scenic mirage Nov 5, 2019, 5:56 AM

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So if I can provide someone with a 3D model of a legbag... can it be made?

median bough Nov 5, 2019, 6:05 AM

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can what be made?

sturdy laurel Nov 5, 2019, 11:21 AM

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I found a strange problem with object builder, even if I put the model in the position of the weapon sample, in game it appears in a different position. https://i.imgur.com/MDd2iyp.png https://i.imgur.com/vi3UNUC.png
anyone know how to solve?

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 12:21 PM

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it is not a bug, you just not have set it up correctly.

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either its a weighting or model.cfg setup or you possibly dont have autocenter = 0 in the p3d geometry lod

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use the sample vest as reference

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 12:54 PM

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@sturdy laurel

sturdy laurel Nov 5, 2019, 1:00 PM

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@stuck oyster I added autocenter = 0 but still the vest remains in the middle of the legs, I think it is a problem of the model.cfg

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 1:08 PM

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your model.cfg class for the p3d has to be the same name as the p3d

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refer to the sample vest and model.cfg and the model.cfg bi wiki page

sturdy laurel Nov 5, 2019, 1:18 PM

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@stuck oyster you mean this ? https://i.imgur.com/q3BWn78.png

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 1:25 PM

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ye

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if that is correct and the autocenter is set right then last thing that can affect it is your weighting

sturdy laurel Nov 5, 2019, 1:27 PM

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@stuck oyster to make the weight I used the blender transfer weight using the arma model player as a basis

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 1:28 PM

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well that migth not be good enough

sturdy laurel Nov 5, 2019, 1:29 PM

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@stuck oyster Is there another way to make weight? because I know only that

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 1:42 PM

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well sometimes you have to manually tweak it

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with the weight paint tool

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:14 PM

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i downloaded the A3_character_template.p3d and imported to blender but i cant find the bones. are the bones in this model?

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:21 PM

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No

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You can use the Macsers armarig or some other like it, or make your own

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:23 PM

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ok so how do the animations come into play then for the character?

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for using the default animations that is

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:25 PM

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If the character is weighted right the animatios move ir.

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The RTM itself contains the skeleton.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:26 PM

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RTM?

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:26 PM

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The Arma animation file

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That moves characters

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:27 PM

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ok gotchya, just trying to figure out how to size and weight paint a armor set i made for arma so this is a little confusing as to doing UE4 stuff

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:27 PM

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Your new character must match the ArmaMan's dimensions

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The animations do not scale.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:28 PM

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ok. how would i weight paint the proper bones to the armor? is there a skeleton i can download?

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Yes I answered to that above.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:29 PM

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oh the animation

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so the A2_animation_poses?

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:29 PM

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??

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Macsers armarig

misty urchin Nov 5, 2019, 3:30 PM

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ArmaRig: https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/161228-armarig-for-blender/

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Is what you need

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:30 PM

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ok ty

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:30 PM

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@misty urchin let the man find things. 😝

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:30 PM

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ive been googling for 2 weeks lol, this was my last resort

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:31 PM

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You need to invest more skill points on google-fu

misty urchin Nov 5, 2019, 3:31 PM

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True, but I thought that was going in a forever circle lol

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Enough keywords usually resolves it.

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In the long run it helps more.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:32 PM

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yea, figured "aram 3 blender character rig" would have been sufficent but thats too simple i guess lol

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but ty

misty urchin Nov 5, 2019, 3:34 PM

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If you remove all except Arma and Rig it would be ABlobHaha

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:34 PM

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lol

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Well with that exact search the above armarig is the first search result.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:35 PM

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LOL i did have it! guess i just downloaded it at 0300 and forgot about it lol

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I do strongly recommend sleeping enough. It does make modding a lot easier.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:36 PM

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yea lol

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:36 PM

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And I do mean it seriously.

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People ask a lot of stuff they already know but can't access/remember because they're dead tired.

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:37 PM

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truth

median bough Nov 5, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@stuck oyster
Sleep is for the weak!

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Flesh is weak.

median bough Nov 5, 2019, 3:37 PM

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No u

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:38 PM

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ok so the bones are a little differnt then im use to. when i weight paint, do i just add the vertex groups and use the names of the bones or is there another procedure?

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ive only done UE4 games so this is a whole nother animal for me

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:41 PM

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I would think weighting is the same in pretty much all the games?

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You can transfer weight from the sample character for starting point

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:41 PM

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in UE4 you made the skeleton part of the armor then weight painted it.

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but in this it looks way different

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Well its pretty much the same thing. Set armature modifier to your object and point it to the rig

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The set the rig to pose mode and select your object and go to paint mode

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The rig will then be active and you can select bones you want to weight

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Blender weighting tutorials are good to check out too

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:44 PM

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yea, the weight paint isnt foreign but the way its done is deff different lol

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OHHHH i see now

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the skeleton is only referenced with the vertex groups when you paint

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Blender has pretty extensive documentation and tutorials

errant pine Nov 5, 2019, 3:46 PM

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this actually looks alot easier then i thought lol, even easier then UE4 stuff

stuck oyster Nov 5, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Well blender is quite far developed toolset.

white jay Nov 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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im trying to make all the pilars go down in my roadblock animation, can someone tell me whats wrong with this block in the cfg class pilar1 { type="translationY"; source="pilar1"; selection="pilar1"; axis="pilar1_axis"; minValue = -.8; maxValue = 1.0; offset0 = 0.0; offset1 = -.8; animPeriod = 0.0; initPhase = 0.0; };

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it does this ... https://gyazo.com/4aa527c22a94361003645d70de106085

slate epoch Nov 6, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Make minValue 0 and then you can also fiddle with offset1, making it +, not -

white jay Nov 6, 2019, 8:44 AM

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okay is there any reasoning behind it?

white jay Nov 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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https://gyazo.com/d8642567068069fb36ea8bca852e027e

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its fixed now but something is wrong with my put up in my CPP config now it will raise it but not lower

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        {
            class OpenDoor_1
            {
                displayNameDefault="<img image='\A3\Ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\Actions\open_door_ca.paa' size='2.5' />";
                displayName="Put Up";
                position="interaction";
                priority=0.40000001;
                radius=3;
                onlyForPlayer=1;
                condition="((this animationPhase 'pilar1') < 0.5)";
                statement="this animate [""pilar1"",1];this animate [""pilar2"",1];this animate [""pilar3"",1];this animate [""pilar4"",1];this animate [""pilar5"",1];this animate [""pilar6"",1];";
            };

            class CloseDoor_1: OpenDoor_1
            {
                displayName="Put Down";
                priority=0.2;
                condition="((this animationPhase 'pilar1') > 0.5)";
                statement="this animate [""pilar1"",1];this animate [""pilar2"",1];this animate [""pilar3"",1];this animate [""pilar4"",1];this animate [""pilar5"",1];this animate [""pilar6"",1];";
            };
        };```

stuck oyster Nov 6, 2019, 10:52 AM

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@white jay you are animating them to the same value in both actions. Also use animateSource command and give them all same animation source.

white jay Nov 6, 2019, 6:15 PM

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ahhhh i see

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thanks

rustic epoch Nov 6, 2019, 7:40 PM

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We have made some own assets including modular Bunker parts.some of the Bunker Areals are under sea level,hence submerged in water. Our Problem is that one can swim through the floor when going up a sloped part.

Hope this makes sense😆

Is there anything we could add to a model to make the player unit stop swimming like when you go onto Land after swimming?

dreamy dome Nov 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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LF any model maker, send me a pm

median bough Nov 6, 2019, 7:46 PM

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@dreamy dome
nope, not like this...

white jay Nov 7, 2019, 6:23 AM

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is there a way to help model viewer not crash when the object is high poly?

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like a setting so itll load longer and not crash

median bough Nov 7, 2019, 6:45 AM

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No, not as far as i know

white jay Nov 7, 2019, 6:46 AM

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i just figured out why

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its cause i have 7 doors on the building and the doors are insanely highpoly and i didnt even realize, under TB each door is 45k selected faces

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so im merging them down alot

median bough Nov 7, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Lol what? 45k for a door? How did that happen? 😆

white jay Nov 7, 2019, 6:49 AM

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i think i went bevel and sub D crazy XDDDD

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did even realize it

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didnt*

stuck oyster Nov 7, 2019, 2:28 PM

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thats waaay too much

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got to keep game models simple

white jay Nov 7, 2019, 8:11 PM

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yeah i dimmed them down by a lottt

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i have a question i want my floor to be glossy what would i make the soecular power?

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i went on the wiki but didnt really understand it

stuck oyster Nov 7, 2019, 8:23 PM

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Id recommend you take the wiki page and then test different values to see what the descriptions mean

white jay Nov 8, 2019, 12:52 AM

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is there a way to get like a pro trail version of the pboproject cause i cant ofustcate my stuff

stuck oyster Nov 8, 2019, 12:55 AM

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nope

white jay Nov 8, 2019, 12:59 AM

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man i just want the pboproject xD

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dont want the other stuff

stuck oyster Nov 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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price is the same

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

white jay Nov 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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sad face

stuck oyster Nov 8, 2019, 1:09 AM

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your modding for the wrong crowd if obfuscation is necessary

white jay Nov 8, 2019, 1:10 AM

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its the "life" crowd the most toix

terse elm Nov 8, 2019, 12:51 PM

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even obsf wont stop them

sour sigil Nov 9, 2019, 12:23 AM

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true. it’s not hard @terse elm

drowsy lantern Nov 9, 2019, 2:36 AM

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@white jay yea I can agree the ENG life crowd is the most toxic people

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Hi, been having issue after issue on a small tester project im doing before moving on to a more ambitious one. So maybe some advice or even just some "maybe its this" ideas. Currently struggling to get a test head into game and working, now facing this and I do not have a clue as to whats causing this. It looks like its using the default arma guy face texture, even though it shouldnt. My texture paths are all correct as far as I know and I dont get any error logs whatsoever (no "cannot load textures" ) they also look passable in the bulldozer. I attempted to run it first without even knowing what an RVMat was, and it booted with a blinding white textures. Now, with RVMats that I "frankensteined" together, it looks like this. Obviously first and foremost the head is purple and again, using a purple default face texture. But it also has this "static" on it aswell which I know is likely a seperate issue as the static (unlike the purple) shows up in the bulldozer. Likely when one "part" of the head is behind another. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389468196689805324/642736816692396043/TextureError.jpg

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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For future reference, please format text to be easier to read.

The Arma skin shader is probably the most complex one and quite different from the rest of the rvmat shaders.

I recall it is documented in the BI wiki though so that would be the starting point Id wager.

Now judging by what you are making there you may want to transition into full female characters at some point, which will have some limitations and difficulties to it, depending on what your aim is.
Mainly the problem lies in the Arma animations and that they are made for a broad shouldered 182cm tall man and the animations do not scale, so all new characters using the same animations have to be in similar dimensions.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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for our blender friends - seems really usefull tool https://gumroad.com/l/BoxCutter

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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its quite nice, I think I bought it some time ago but have not used it much

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now that 2.8s booleans are not as reliable as in 2,79 I might give it a new whirl though

worldly belfry Nov 9, 2019, 3:27 PM

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hardops is worth looking into aswell, by the same guy

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 5:55 PM

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hey was wondering is it possible to get the arma 3 models of the HK121(NAVID) or will i have to rebuild it from scratch?

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 5:56 PM

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no you cant get it

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 5:57 PM

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rip, i was looking at making a version of it with a foregrip looks like im making it from scratch then

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 5:58 PM

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just make the foregrip a bipod attachment...

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 5:59 PM

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nah cause i wanted to remove the navids front hand grip at the front

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so i would have to edit the actual model

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:02 PM

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only way would be making your own model then

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@stuck oyster I looked into the BI page on the skin shaders, but it just doesnt seem to add up I guess. Not the page itself, its just that for this simplistic project im not looking for the intense level of detail found in there.

Really, unless you specifically know otherwise, it doesnt seem like an rvmat issue. You can see the default arma mans face (or parts of it) in my initial screenshot. Which leads me to believe my texture is failing completely (as it uses around 5 of its own textures for the face without calling on default arma textures whatsoever).

Adding to that, I know rvmats are fairly complex and vary from model to model, but when I said I "frankensteined the rvmats together" I specifically reverse engineered the RVMats used in someone elses custom head project (studying the file paths they used, then changing them to my own). Im not well versed in arma but by my understanding, the rvmat shouldnt be responsible for an entire texture being wrong and purple?

As to my aim, I was mainly doing the head alone as a proof of concept before moving onto (maybe) adding rainbow six siege gear/heads into arma 3. And female heads on the default arma body shape are a bit malformed or odd, but really I dont think they look all that bad in full kit. Because generally the vest is bulky enough its not as odd looking. So maybe in the future ill have to learn how to make the frames of some of the smaller siege operators fit well, aswell as making the bulkier guys clip less. But im just trying to get this smaller project done first. And based on how much im struggling, I doubt my abilities going further into my bigger project tbh.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:07 PM

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well then you can stop right there, because adding stuff from other games is illegal

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Model rips are illegal, but models made in blender of the likeness to the originals arent to my knowledge.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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ima pressing X to doubt on this...

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:09 PM

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How is it illegal

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Ubisoft isnt blizzard. So I doubt id be attacked for using namesakes and likeness. And there is no law to my knowledge that would make it illegal. Likeness can be copyright infringemement if you are SELLING the product. But we are talking about an arma 3 mod here

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:12 PM

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i doubt you are remodelling them from scratch

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 6:12 PM

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remodelling from scratch is fine as long as they dont hold copyright on the model

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Character designs fall under intellectual property

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 6:13 PM

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^

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:13 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1285636607&searchtext=

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 6:14 PM

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ye doubt its models ripped straight from fallout

bold flare Nov 9, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Likeness can be copyright infringemement if you are SELLING the product.
bullsh. Thats completely unrelated. You just think that because many companies don't want to invest resources into lawyers and stuff, for stuff that doesn't hurt them commercially.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:15 PM

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whatever the situation with that fallout mod is "someone stole, so that means i can steal" - no thats not how it works

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:15 PM

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They obviously didnt steal their models, or it doesnt seem likely.

bold flare Nov 9, 2019, 6:16 PM

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If you violate our #rules youll be removed, doesn't matter whether you think its right

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Once again, not using ripped models.

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ye i think it'll be fine under fair use but im no lawyer lmao

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:18 PM

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My point with that link was that, this is an undeniable likeness of fallout. It flies by steam workshop regulations. So whatever your stance, if you think that mod is illegal in its likeness, it is still accepted by steam and hasnt been warned or removed.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:19 PM

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its not fair use. People made star wars mod. Disney shut them down because of illegitimate use of IP.
Steam has NO quality control whatsoever, particularly not on the workshop

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:20 PM

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It was my understanding that all or most models in the star wars opposition mod (when it was available on workshop) was using ripped models from various disney games.

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Literally illegal assets. Idk about the IP thing.

median bluff Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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ye they were ripped

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hence why the halo mod is still standing

bold flare Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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It flies by steam workshop regulations.
there are no regulations 🤣

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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no thats different. The one i talked about was brand new models, with AAA quality. Disney doesnt tolerate use of IP, because IP laws are such that if used by too many people its considered a "common good of the public" or whatever and they loose the IP.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@white jay the skin shader can make it purple if you have made it the wrong way.

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:22 PM

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which is why they go around like vicious attack dogs biting everyone

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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but also regarding the rest here, if you want to make models without throwing poop on the fan, make original work

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simple as that

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Do you remember this mods name? Id like to read about it. Im pretty passionate about my project but if it is legitimately illegal then id like to know before I make a ton of stuff thats gonna get thrown in the garbage.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:24 PM

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if you have anything not self made, youve already soiled yourself.

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RB siege stuff is pretty generic gear so is there really need to even make "likeness"

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:25 PM

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I know the RVmat could be responsible for color change, but we are talking abt the texture not existing. Like its not a purple version of my texture, its just the default arma face plastered all over the model. I can get a better picture if you want one.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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nah the pic really doesnt say much

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but you should be able to see it in OB buldozer

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and see how changing things in the rvmat affect it

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you might have wrong textures in wrong channels etc etc

woeful viper Nov 9, 2019, 6:27 PM

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with the ripped model thing - thats illegal
the IP thing - thats a greyzone and risks your work, because owning company could come and cease and desist you at any time they get aware. Unless you make money off of it (that includes donations), then it is 100% illegal

If they think you ripped the models, you have to prove they are not ripped - if they are too accurate, it can be argued you ripped the models and "copied" them off of that. Eitherway, even if you have proven that, you will still get cease and desist for IP.

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:28 PM

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The bulldozer view shows the correct textures and isnt purple. The rvmat looks a bit off and definitely needs some work but even with it on, it still looks reasonable in bulldozer. My issue is entirely how it appears in game.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:29 PM

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then Id wager the configs for the face are wrong

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You have dived into the deep end of character modding.

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thers handful of people who dabble in sking textures/materials and female models,

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Well you may have just indirectly solved my problem honestly. I forgot the heads.hpp file even existed.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 6:30 PM

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so basically theres no guides on how to do stuff

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:32 PM

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And my heads.hpp file makes repeated calls to A3/Characters_F\Heads\Data\h1_white_bald_co.paa

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Well, I deleted all those calls to the default arma textures and it fixed the default arma man showing up as the skin, atleast from what I can tell. Still purple and static-y but that, im assuming, is just my rvmats. Though I wish my object builder would show me this purple error so I could see what fixes it.

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Is there anywhere with concrete guidelines on what settings I should be using in texview for my paa's?

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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nope

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or what do you mean in texview

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as texview is just tool to convert to .paa

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all textures must adhere to the power of 2 sizes

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and have correct type _suffix when loaded in texview

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also would be better to use imgToPaa

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also for just texture/material development you probably should not connect the face to the HL selections at all

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so that the engine does not try to change it

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are you packing with pboProject?

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and have you set up P drive with arma3P

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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With the suffix types, which are neccesary for the textures to work. Not look AMAZING, mind, just basic function.

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Ive been using the P drive, and the default pbo tool. Idk what its technical name is.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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addon builder?

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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And as to texview, it has boxes at the top that im a bit clueless on. I assume RGBA and the like are just views, but the other box with options like DXT1/3/5 and other stuff is lost on me.

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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you dont have to worry about those

white jay Nov 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Yea addon builder. From the default tools launcher

stuck oyster Nov 9, 2019, 7:07 PM

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it converts texture the correct way when the suffix is right

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I would recommend you look up PMC wiki arma 3 tools and P drive setup guide and use the PboProject from Mikeros toolset (installed in the guide) to pack

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Addon builder works only if you feed it absolutely correct things

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because it does not give any feedback on your errors

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so when you pack with it, theres no knowing if its right

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unless you are 130% sure youve made no mistakes

molten nacelle Nov 10, 2019, 3:00 AM

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oh

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oh no

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not addon builder

clever forum Nov 11, 2019, 4:32 AM

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hello how to open .cas files and acces to all the files on the .cas files

white jay Nov 11, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Anyone know if its possible to edit the LODs of an "obsfucated" or binarized p3d? Not looking to un-binarize it or whatever the term is. Theres a significant amount of mods I and friends use that add custom heads, and strangely enough most of them are broken in that you can see the back of your eyeballs in first person. I know how to fix them, atleast if they are similar to the head im working on. But I obviously cant change the viewpilot of a binarized model. So im curious if anyone knows of a non O2 way to tell the game what to do with the viewpilot of a model or if its possible "patch" it with another mod like youd do for a retexture?

stuck oyster Nov 11, 2019, 8:55 AM

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@white jay not possible

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Old broken mods that the author does not upkeep just need to be dropped if they are buggy.

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@clever forum never heard of .cas file.

clever forum Nov 11, 2019, 8:58 AM

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it's a resource file like 3d models of a game

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or mods

stuck oyster Nov 11, 2019, 9:06 AM

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If its from some other game you should not be opening it. Using ripped models is theft and forbidden.

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You didn't make it, you don't use it.

steel vector Nov 11, 2019, 3:00 PM

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a .cas file is a license file for AutoCAD (to protect the contents), or a Total War Model file, which means it's from another game and therefor not allowed in Arma.

cedar rock Nov 11, 2019, 5:56 PM

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is there any documentation of setting up vehicles other than just looking at the example files, and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Cars_Config_Guidelines? I have some old dusty models from A2 that I'd like to tinker with in A3. I believe those two sources will be enough but if anyone knows of any other up to date guides I'd love to have different versions of information!

stuck oyster Nov 11, 2019, 6:03 PM

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not really anything in depth

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all the basics are the same

cedar rock Nov 11, 2019, 6:10 PM

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alrighty, thanks

white jay Nov 12, 2019, 5:49 AM

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anyone know of a guide of video that explain color texturing, i dont know if thats what its called but its like setting a wall to a specific color and the texture loading on designated to that color, almost like mask maps

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and can u do it with substance painter

white jay Nov 12, 2019, 6:09 AM

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what are u having trouble with?

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ok

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did u bake it?

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are u using substance painter?

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you should try blender and substance painter

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really good products

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you uv'd the thing u made right?

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and what failed?

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i see

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did urs not turn out like that or is that urs?

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ahh

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okay i see

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honestly stacking UV maps isnt that great of an idea unless u really have to

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if its just for boxes like that just use a basic UV and see how that turns out

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u dont really need to save space on the UV when its that simple of an obkect

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see

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this is why substance painter is a good route

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u can bake the highpoly on the lowpoly in substance painter and u dont have to stack ur UV's

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just give it a try u can use it for a month without buying it

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also does ur AO

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yeah i get that

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im guessing u are wanting to do that with more complex objects?

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cause a box in 1024 even 512 would look fine without having to stack

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are u setting up ur RVmat right?

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well arma can go up to 2048 so

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HQ wood grains

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honestly i dont know much about 3d max, im all up in blender

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see if u wanted to add wood planks

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model wise in blender u could make a highpoly and just bake it on with substance painter and honestly probably not get that noticeable quality change

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blender 2.8 is amazing

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-(._.)/- arma reads my normals good

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i think it might have a prob with stacking

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i tend not to stack them

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if u want

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its arma tho

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xD

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a pain

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why not just make each side of the box have its out normal map and just stack each sides within the 8 boxes

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i was thinking about it and it didnt make too much sense since ur wanting to stack ur UV's

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i was trying to say u could have like a scene with like all 8 of ur "boxs" and then unwrap them and have a normal map for all sides of them but then just stack ever other box on top of the first one so the normals would be the same

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but i dont think u want 8 in one scene

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okay well then i mean u can pre make the scene and do that

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unless u want them handplaced

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doing something with my model but ill try in a lill

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 6:42 AM

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How about you try giving each side its own uv space and baking the normal that way and see if that works.

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Does your box use soft or hard edges in inte P3d.

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Because its quite possible some of the stacked sides are not right side up on the uv

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@white jay there's mondkalbs multimaterial tutorial in the wiki.

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I don't understand the question.

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But probably not.

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Also. What shader are you using in the rvmat

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So just to get me up to speed, is this used as single object in game?

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Or is there many boxes combined to one object?

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What you want is not always what you can do.

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There is possibility that you are saving the vertex normals in some weird way too.

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How about you recalculate them in OB? Or look at where they are pointing to in the OB viewport? Might give a clue where it goes wrong.

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Also are you sure you have the rvmat set up right?

jade eagle Nov 12, 2019, 7:39 AM

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how can I offset the an item in object builder?I made an item that uses the flashlight configs and right now the player always grabs it right in the middle (because my object is larger than the flashlight but has a handle on top) I want to move it a little bit down in the player hands.. but just moving it in OB doesnt work.. moving axis neither, experimented with proxies also but that was super fishy

tulip beacon Nov 12, 2019, 7:46 AM

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autocenter

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 7:46 AM

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@jade eagle what flashlight do you mean?

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Did you yet try with separate islands for all sides?

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??

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Are you sure?

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Because you are doing something wrong here as objects don't normally behave like that

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I do. Don't have time for that in depth debugging.

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Ok so P3d does not understand different objects or scenes or anything like that. P3d is single object/mesh that has 1 up direction

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Normals must be made with that in mind

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Then you are modeling it wrong somehow. Perhaps saving custom normals or something. Because that does not sound like normal behaviour.

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Do the same boxes in OB

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Well I'm not max user so can't help you there. But it is not a common problem so some part of your workflow is flawed right now.

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It could be your rvmat too

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Use pastebin.com

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Well that would explain it

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Your rvmat is incomplete

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It requires all the stages

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And that too

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My bad, assumed when you knew to use super shader that you actually knew what's what.

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Complete shader from where?

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That does not quarantee anything.

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I'd assume DZ has default rvmats somewhere like Arma 3 does

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Don't use P: in texture paths

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Look at the end of the rvmat for example

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possibly if it cant actually find your file

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because that path would translate to P:\P:\path

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ok so buldozer behaves as the game engine

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and game engine reads paths from engine root

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P:\ is the virtual engine root

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and OB by default is set to use P: as default path prefix

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so for OB buldozer \path translatese to P:\path

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and P:\path would translate to P:\P:\path

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fine your stuff works

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 9:08 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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well unfortunately cant reporduce it

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📎 unknown.png

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soft and hard edged

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behave as they should

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so its a model problem and something you do seems to break the vertex normals

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or lock them

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didnt save the model. just made a cube in OB and gave it a copy of the a3 default supershader with a normalmap texture similar to yours tha I cut from some pic in the web

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yes but it confirms the problem is somewhere in how you modeled them

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did you try recalculating the normals in OB?

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select all, hit F5

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 9:45 AM

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I have no idea what in your workflow goes wrong, never seen such issue.

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what do the objects look like in OB/buldozer without the normalmap texture/rvmat

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and did you check where your normals point to in OB

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 10:17 AM

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I doubt that

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the buldozer preview runs in the engine

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📎 unknown.png

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the vertex normals you would see here

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 10:30 AM

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looks like soft edges

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 10:34 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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OB soft edges would look like this

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those are baked normals

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so something you do in Max

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That I don't know. I work in Blender.

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soz dont have timer right now

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I already did the same in OB

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well basically its one of those

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or both

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somewhere youre baking custom vertex normals to the objects and they dont transfer properly to p3D

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P3D requirements are a bit different than what you might do in MAX I suppose but I cant remember details

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p3d is the Arma model format

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that OB creates

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so in OB youre working in p3d

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 10:43 AM

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I guess you're checking some special checkbox when exporting from max.
I never had problems with my max exports

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I always do game export, FBX 2014

Smoothing Groups enabled, and sometimes triangulate, depends on whether I need it

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Don't have access to OB and Arma right now

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But I can give you the fbx that I get out of it

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yeah. gimme 10

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ye

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Wow I'm worse at this than I thought. Only just learned you can bake a normal in max 😄

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Hope this is correct 😄

📎 boxtest.max

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📎 Box001NormalsMap.tga

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📎 boxPlain.fbx

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 12:14 PM

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wuht 😄

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can you send me your rvmat? the uv's should be co....... oh

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Yeah.. Think so

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I'm just wtf'ing at max right now

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UV seems to be correct in the fbx, but not in your rvmat.

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your rvmat is invalid

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your uvTransform is an empty class, which is invalid (atleast I think so). Also the super shader is missing all other stages

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You can just take the default super shader as a base
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader#Default_Values
and replace the normal map

Super shader

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But the UV in my export looks correct to me. Why is it wrong when you have it ingame.
The UV you get is 0-1 from edge to edge, but mine is slightly inset.

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I have no idea whats wrong there. I guess I should try to reproduce the import step from OB->game, but can't do that now

median bough Nov 12, 2019, 12:37 PM

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caps...

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please...

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bad move

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veeery bad move

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you know that there are ways to sound opinions with less profanity?

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 12:39 PM

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!purgeban @unreal pond 90d abusive language towards developers, allcaps, excessive profanity

high scarabBOT Nov 12, 2019, 12:39 PM

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*fires them railguns at @unreal pond* Ò_Ó

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Not under my watch... wtf man..

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You invest time to help a guy and then that.

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If anyone else has that same issue..
Heres the solution

Before converting the texture to .paa I had to add the word _NOHQ to the filename...
🤦

median bough Nov 12, 2019, 12:41 PM

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don't bite the hand that feeds

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 12:41 PM

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And for some reason thats the DayZ devs fault even tho they have absolutely nothing to do with that

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

📎 firefox_2019-11-12_13-49-55.png

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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oh so he was still using the wrong rvmat

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 1:47 PM

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that too

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Seems like that escalated quite fast after I put my phone in my pocket

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meh

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 PM

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It escalated quite fast after I tabbed out to read a single thread on BIF.
When I came back everything was on fire somehow 🤔

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Hes on DayZModders discord now..

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same pics, same text

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or maybe he was there earlier actually

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anyhow, seems like there was no solution for him there

bold flare Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 PM

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he has been the whole time (for the last week), he just crossposted to here. While also crossposting between 3 channels in modders discord

stuck oyster Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Aint that the fast way to get answers!!111!1

white jay Nov 13, 2019, 1:03 AM

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how does baking lights into a model work?

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like fake lighting

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I think this might help you @white jay https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/128589-glow-in-the-dark-textures/

cedar rock Nov 13, 2019, 1:37 AM

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I've heard in past years that using the same materials helps improve game performance if that texture is used multiple times, like setting the texture to the face in o2 instead of painting on a uv map. firts off, is this true? also would it work the same way if I wanted to make a cluster of buildings where all the doors and windows would be the same, would it be effective to make the doors and windows proxies?

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How it was explained to me once was that the game engine will load something and of course keeps it cached, so my idea is that if I have a bunch of doors and windows that are all the same in one area made into proxies the engine would handle it better, rather then being defined in each building separately.

white jay Nov 13, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Not sure how ARMA proxies the models but I do know that using one texture for several objects is preferable to using separate textures. Engine cashes the texture once unless space is running out. Fewer textures, fewer loads, less memory, better fps. @cedar rock

cedar rock Nov 13, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I'm hoping it works the same with proxies, because I feel it'd make life easier not having to make the config for each door and properties for windows for every single building, on top of performance gain.

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 8:07 AM

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You would still need all configs and animatios done for each proxy part

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In that use proxies would probably be more costly

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So I'd advice against such

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Multimaterial rvmat is what you want for buildings.

weary sierra Nov 13, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Not sure that I'm asking in the right channel, but still. Noticed that some trees on the maps (Chernarus for example) completely block the InditectHit damage. So if a person sits "inside" the tree he gets no damage from the explosion, thought bullets can still damage him. As far as I understand, the FireGeometry od the tree model must be tweaked somehow. Does anybody know is it possible at all and what settings are the best?

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 12:26 PM

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those tree models are not accessible

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so nothing can be done

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but best to confirm vanilla trees actually do this

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because Chernarus is not A3 vanilla terrain

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@weary sierra

weary sierra Nov 13, 2019, 12:42 PM

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Our modMakers have access to those trees. They've alr3ady changed some parameters so that bullets can penetrate them correctly. The only problem left is with indirectHit

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Maybe it's just an engine trouble and not possible at all))

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 12:47 PM

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@weary sierra not sure what you are talking about. Arma 3 trees are not accessible for modders. If you are working with ripped models you should stop.

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you will never be able to release those and will likely get banned for doing such.

weary sierra Nov 13, 2019, 12:48 PM

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I suppose they work not with vanilla trees, but with CUP

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 12:49 PM

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you may want to get that confirmed before this discussion can continue

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also CUP trees are not publicly accessible

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so if they have Arma 2 trees from the released datapackages its ok.

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otherwise you may be crossing lines

weary sierra Nov 13, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Yeah, that's true

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Arma2 trees

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This problem occures only on ported arma2 maps

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Yeah, confirmed. Spruce trees from arma2 that are widespread among Chernarus. That's the point

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 1:12 PM

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yeah those are probably lacking correct penetration materials

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I would suggest testing if same issue is apparent in Arma 3 trees

rough idol Nov 13, 2019, 1:33 PM

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thats engine limitation

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explosion raycasting exits on first collision - there is no shock wave penetration whatsoever

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2019, 1:43 PM

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needs more submunition shrapnell

weary sierra Nov 13, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Thanks! Seems that the only option left is ACE fragments

cedar rock Nov 13, 2019, 4:19 PM

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@quick terrace do you still have the example file from this thread, or have you completed mentioned possible tutorial? https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/185296-multimaterial/

quick terrace Nov 13, 2019, 4:19 PM

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what thread?

cedar rock Nov 13, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Sorry had wrong link

quick terrace Nov 13, 2019, 4:25 PM

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📎 example_multimap.7z

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@cedar rock

cedar rock Nov 13, 2019, 4:42 PM

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thank you, much appreciated!

lunar axle Nov 14, 2019, 7:08 AM

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hi guys ,
Are they aircraft missiles example ? or maybe somebody have one ?

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Don't think there's samples but the model itself doesn't have much specialities. Probably autocenter =0 in geometry lod. Other than that its modeled like any other object

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The sample weapon is probably most closest.

rotund lodge Nov 15, 2019, 4:43 AM

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Hey guys, I'm currently playing around with PhysX objects and have created two simple objects (a pole and a ring) both with a functioning geometry lod.
Both objects have a base class of Furniture_base_F, and the pole object's simulation is set to thing, while the ring object's simulation is set to thingx.
That all works, however when I create the ring directly above the pole it falls down but appears to sit ontop of the pole's geometry LOD rather than fall down past the pole.
Even though the geometry lods aren't touching or overlapping. It appears that the rings geometry lod is utilising the overall size of the geometry lod instead of the actual object? (if that makes sense :/)

Pole's Geometry LOD:
https://gyazo.com/a0cac0354d99ae5232e022267b2df3fc

Ring's Geometry LOD:
https://gyazo.com/9ae62ad97ccf985e6546b63f5631d568

Outcome:
https://gyazo.com/3732cc237c97c19984de843a22311e46

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Is the ring build from separate segments? And are the components named right? And have mass?

rotund lodge Nov 15, 2019, 5:56 AM

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The ring is one component, both objects have closed edges, triangulated, have sharp edges and have mass

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One thing I’ve just noticed is, the ring interacts and has geometry with other objects besides the player

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Meaning you can walk right through it, but the geometry is fine if you drive a car into it

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As well as it’s interacting with the pole

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And both objects have found components*

rough idol Nov 15, 2019, 7:02 AM

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@rotund lodge if it's one component then it's 100% non convex

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Game tries to fix that and create one convex component without hull

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If you are using max, there is worm tool for source engine which may assist you with geometry creation

rotund lodge Nov 15, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Ahh ok, that sounds about right because when I tried playing around wit hit before and convexed it, it just came a cylinder and covered the hole

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I'll try in Blender, seeming I made the ring in blender. I know there is a convex option in blender, hopefully it does a better job than OB?

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nvm it just converts it into a cylinder like OB

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@rough idol thank you sir, that was the issue. I just quickly made a geomtry lod using rectangles (multiple components) and it works like a charm!

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I tried playing around with it multiple times, seeming I knew that they had to have closed edges, triangulated, sharp edges and assigned mass. But didn't realise it needed multiple components. Thanks again mate 🙂

bold flare Nov 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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#creators_recruiting <-- if you move there, then please move and don't copy. Otherwise you'd be crossposting and violating our #rules k thx bye

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nvm

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!issuewarning @tired forum crossposting

high scarabBOT Nov 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Done.

bold flare Nov 15, 2019, 3:44 PM

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didn't check before writing that.

tired forum Nov 15, 2019, 3:48 PM

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@bold flare I did not copy my post I rewrote it, also didn’t know that asking in two places was a rule

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@bold flare I’ll go check rules now

bold flare Nov 15, 2019, 4:29 PM

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rule 9

visual onyx Nov 16, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Hello all need information about create a custom driver. I found tutorials for cargo position but it seem not be the same. I had done the position of rig character, but i don't know how to do it effective in game. rtm? scripting? etc

outer condor Nov 16, 2019, 3:12 PM

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is anyone here using Pennyworth's tweak to get A3 lighting in Buldozer for model preview?

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ref
https://discordapp.com/channels/165833394851282944/442259877411291136/478851724925337612
https://discordapp.com/channels/165833394851282944/237578735128281089/628773734660046848

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Done it a. Couple of times but it gets tedious when P drive renewal loses the settings.

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Oh wait for OB buldozer.

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For that have not used it.

bold flare Nov 16, 2019, 9:57 PM

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!ban @white jay 0 IP infringement, ripping 3D models, publishing ripped BI 3D models in unbinarized form, violating EULA by redistributing game files to non-owners.

high scarabBOT Nov 16, 2019, 9:57 PM

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*fires them railguns at @rough nexus* Ò_Ó

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2019, 9:59 PM

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oh that happened

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people dont want to listen when its clearly said over and over again that this kind of stuff isnt going to be approved

worldly belfry Nov 16, 2019, 10:07 PM

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hasnt this dude been banned before for similar violations or was that something else?

bold flare Nov 16, 2019, 10:08 PM

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He was being investigated before. But not banned because noone found the time to find proof

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he actually has unbinarized, ripped BI models in his mod

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Some people accused him of exactly that months back, but noone showed proof. Now I have proof

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Yaah I read a bit of the comments on his workshop.. Few quite condeming revelations there

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Meh. He too was helped here when he started out. Another waste case.

woeful viper Nov 17, 2019, 1:06 AM

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just wished i had seen what he wrote to try and legitimize it

outer condor Nov 17, 2019, 4:02 AM

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so no one is using actual ingame lighting with Buldozer?
do you guys then work all ingame with filePatching and resetShapes?

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Yeah

quick terrace Nov 17, 2019, 10:15 AM

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@outer condor i am using penny’s shaders

outer condor Nov 17, 2019, 10:48 AM

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@quick terrace do you use arma3 dir for exe and such, or plain p drive?

quick terrace Nov 17, 2019, 10:56 AM

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currently p drive

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i think

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used to use a3 drive

outer condor Nov 17, 2019, 6:22 PM

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is the head model hard linked to an infantry model, or can one assign a head dynamically by some means?

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 6:24 PM

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It's linked to the identity of the unit I think

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As long as proxy is used that is.

outer condor Nov 17, 2019, 6:31 PM

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so if you want all possible combos, you need to define all as identities?

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 6:59 PM

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mm yes I think so

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then the faction configs define what heads/identities the faction uses

white jay Nov 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Me and a couple friends are doing a small project which requires adding a character model with a completely new skeleton to ARMA, and we're having some minor trouble when it comes to the integration of the model, as well as the new skeleton, most specifically what needs to be done in some LODs, stuff like proxies etc. If anyone would be alright with giving a couple pointers in the right direction (not asking for you to do any work, just to more or less explain what must be done on a couple cases), then please DM me

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 9:14 PM

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You can't call what's the most complex thing to set up in Arma a small project.

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Basically you would follow the example of the basic Arma Man and derive everything from there. Model setup and the configs for new animations and the character to use those new animations

white jay Nov 17, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Well, yeah xD

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And that's mostly what we've been doing

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Just aren't quite clear on what we should do with a couple proxies and some details on a few LODs

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 9:18 PM

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If you can narrow down the issues to single questions those can be answered, but there's really no way to explaining the process that it would cover everything in this way.

white jay Nov 17, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Ok

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The most pressing issues we're currently having are what proxies we'd need to keep and/or change. What we're trying to do right now is to integrate the uniform (which is the base model for the new character) and the skeleton into the game. We've mostly figured out to do it, but Armaman has proxies for things like Bysta (which seems to be a head?) and hmd, which we don't really know what they are, and some of the other proxies placements don't make much sense. So far we've been going along with the head being part of the uniform, and having no facial expressions.

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Head mounted display, so nvgs and such. Each proxy corresponds to a item, expect the bysta/head which allows the swapping of the head model for different identities

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To get a model in game you don't need any of them, but to use all engine features you need all of them

fringe brook Nov 18, 2019, 6:01 AM

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Can someone explain how to setup hidden selections, they aren't working when I follow the guides that are out there.. I setup what I wanted to call them in object builder (By selecting some parts of the model and then made a new LOD with that name) and in model.cfg I have the same names in "sections[] = {};" and then I setup the same names in in the config.cpp under hiddenSelection; but it is not working... I hope this is the correct place to ask...

white jay Nov 18, 2019, 7:27 AM

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is the Object builders "Faces" count correct, cause i imported a model that had like 30k faces and it told me it had like 120k faces in OB

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also are good face counts/poly counts for buildings in arma?

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2019, 9:53 AM

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@fringe brook make sure it's written the same way.

@white jay yest the OB count is accurate. You may have not triangulated your mesh before exporting. You want triangle count, not face count.

Building is too generic term to give any meaningful answer. Shed is a building, hospital is a building. 120k is a lot though so it better be a big building.

south ridge Nov 18, 2019, 4:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/AvOKoKj.jpg

model campfire

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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@south ridge is there a question related to that pic. Also its polite to provide description of a link you post

south ridge Nov 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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imgur - file sharing for screenshots.

No questions. Just shared, maybe someone will like it. I think they will appear in the workshop soon, if there are thoughts on what to add, I will be glad :). While working on them.

bold flare Nov 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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the uv resolutions on the brick seem un-uniform. So stretched on top makes it look rather bad

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same on the wood pieces laying sideways

south ridge Nov 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Yes, doing it now. In proportions, the problem, me need to fit a lot of textures in one. I do not want to make extra files.

fringe brook Nov 18, 2019, 7:50 PM

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@stuck oyster They are written the same way...

white jay Nov 18, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Thanks, will try to work with that, HorribleGoat

white jay Nov 21, 2019, 12:51 PM

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@fringe brook, make sure that the named selections aren't part of any other named selection which is animated (hide, rotate, etc.) or isn't a part of another named selection liste in "sections" of model.cfg.

stuck oyster Nov 21, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Sections can be part of animated parts but other sections would be no no

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Good call.

cobalt pawn Nov 22, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Is it possible to get models with custom skeletons to work in the virtual arsenal? Right now when i select the Spartan model, it just shows the basic armaMan model.

rpt error:

Uniform is for a different skeleton (unit: OFP2_ManSkeleton, uniform: Spartan_ManSkeleton)

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2019, 6:04 PM

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the unit would need to use the same skeleton too as far as I know

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so it might not work in the default arsenal

vast tulip Nov 23, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Can geometry/fire LODs use tris in them?

rough idol Nov 23, 2019, 8:40 AM

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yes, as long as its convex

bright echo Nov 23, 2019, 11:32 AM

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does reloadMagazine source not work when switching magazines on vehicles?

stuck oyster Nov 23, 2019, 11:33 AM

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That is possible. The magazine switch might not count as reload action

bright echo Nov 23, 2019, 11:35 AM

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it sure seems that way, the source works fine in buldozer but in game when I switch magazines the animation does not play, other animations (like reload) work fine

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thats a bit of a pain- i guess I can script it with the reloaded EH anyway

rough idol Nov 23, 2019, 1:46 PM

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pretty sure it works

bright echo Nov 23, 2019, 2:19 PM

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hmm I just tested the AT offroad and its working there

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yeah nevermind I just realized what the problem is, the problem is i'm an idiot

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((Forgot the animationSources for it))

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too used to infantry weapons

minor jasper Nov 23, 2019, 11:19 PM

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does anyone know why reversed 1 is set in properties on a backpack? as it flips the model, so the text on a radio backpack reads backwards. what is the function of reversed? why is it applied to packs?

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i.e. must we remake our pack, or can we just remove the property?

worldly belfry Nov 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Anyone know the exact offset of the laser/flashlight proxy?

bold flare Nov 24, 2019, 1:12 AM

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what you mean?

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its whereever it needs to be on whatever weapon

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each weapon is different

worldly belfry Nov 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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in relation to 0,0. Im trying to line up the lod on my model, but its offset forward quite a bit

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if I know the exact amount I can just do the math and save the trial and error

bold flare Nov 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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The attachments 0,0 position is exactly where your proxy is

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any additional offset is specific to the attachment model

orchid spruce Nov 24, 2019, 11:10 AM

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is there something that might not be set correctly in a p3d that would cause secondary textures to not be used?

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like nohq and smdi ones?

minor jasper Nov 24, 2019, 11:10 AM

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rvmat

orchid spruce Nov 24, 2019, 11:11 AM

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I have a few models that both use mostly the same nohq and smdi textures and a mostly same rvmat with only paths change, but one the newer model none of the shader textures work

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like the normal maps don't appear to work even on the arma 3 arms

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like the p3d just refuses to use any shaders

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the only difference in the p3ds is that I made some of them later

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and the ones made later have the issue

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huh it appears to happen during binarizing

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I tried loading the unbinarized p3ds in arma and the shaders were all fine

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I guess addon builder breaks something when binarizing

stuck oyster Nov 24, 2019, 11:24 AM

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No,addon builder just packs whatever errors, bugs you feed it. It does not give you any errors back. If you want debugging, use mikeros pbo project.

PMC wiki has simple steps on how to setup P drive and the tools. @orchid spruce

median bough Nov 24, 2019, 11:28 AM

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@orchid spruce
That's why it is also called "addon breaker"...

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PboProject is the weapon of choice

orchid spruce Nov 24, 2019, 12:10 PM

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pboproject gives me the same issue

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even on those older p3ds that were working fine before

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there are some errors but nothing relating to shaders

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or could it be from the 14:06:41: Cannot load material file sim_extra_gear\tex\jungle_uniform.rvmat ones?

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looks like it's fine now with the pboproject material errors fixed

stuck oyster Nov 24, 2019, 12:41 PM

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PboProject gives you warnings and errors for reason

tropic jewel Nov 24, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Am I able to get clarification on a couple of things, a3\characters_f\proxies\pistol_holstered is the proxy name to display a players pistol in a holster, (the proxy being set so that its next to the pistol holster) and what "lods" is it meant to be on, just the visible ones, 1, 2, etc + View Pilot?

stuck oyster Nov 24, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I would say its required only in the visible lods of the character yes

strong plaza Nov 25, 2019, 3:10 PM

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is there a recommended door dimension for arma buildings?

tulip beacon Nov 25, 2019, 3:12 PM

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definitely wider than irl standard

strong plaza Nov 25, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I was thinking 2.1m x 1m

tulip beacon Nov 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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we did some tests, can't remember exact dimensions, but wether you can go through depends on weapon you are holding

strong plaza Nov 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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maybe wider

tulip beacon Nov 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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i guess you have to account for huge long guns like m107 or whatever

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plus you can always make geo a bit wider than visual

strong plaza Nov 25, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I'm thinking of leaving out the doorframe from the geo

bronze kiln Nov 25, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@strong plaza I make a small character and then reference it to the ingame characters once its tall enough I just put it beside every door in the models I make

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and delete it at the end

visual onyx Nov 25, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Hi all who know how to make custom driver. I have a blender arma rig in position but i don't know if its same as cargo or if we have a tricks with hand position

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like weapons

late root Nov 25, 2019, 9:07 PM

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For an airplane, should the model always have any sort of bomb bays open or closed?

woeful viper Nov 25, 2019, 9:13 PM

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closed is more straight forward in my book

terse elm Nov 25, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Anyone else had the problem when configing ships were the steering flips when u hold down shift

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 7:55 AM

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anyone knows exact formula on how _co/_ca blends with _mc in TreeAdv and TreeAdvTrunk?

rough idol Nov 26, 2019, 8:10 AM

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@tulip beacon did you see rvmat with Czech comments?

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 8:17 AM

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hmm, i guess no, where is it?

rough idol Nov 26, 2019, 8:24 AM

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📎 RHS_LabelAdv.rvmat

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this modified one ofc, I can try to search for original one later

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 8:26 AM

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dir[]={0,0,0}; 👀

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 8:32 AM

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@rough idol not quite what i'm after but interesting anyway, thanks!

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i have one with russian comments

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Trunks use _CS where alpha channel stores ambient occlusion

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@tulip beacon you mean like how the shader works internally?

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Don't think that stuff is written down publicly

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 11:05 AM

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@stuck oyster maybe someone experimented with that. I am interested in how color and macro maps "multiply" or do whatever they do to each other

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Ah. Yeah have not seen anything about that myself at least.

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Probably closest stuff is the old multimaterial stuff for Max material

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 AM

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From my tests they behave as equals. Black x White = black, no matter whether co black and mc white, or flipped

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Multimat can't be applied, cause it is different shader

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I'm talking about treeadvtrunk

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I'm just trying to find dynamic range of rgb values which would give consistent and predictable results

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415157150432886784/648763522682978325/107410_20191126085317_1.png

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Horizontal stripes are co 0,0,0, 127,127,127 255,255,255

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Vertical is the same but mc

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Treeadvtrunk shader

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It looks like multiplication when values are closer to 0, and average value when closer to 255

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415157150432886784/646217345785790464/unknown.png

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Here i tried to find reasonable max value for white color

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Top to bottom 170 180 190

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/415157150432886784/646218312497496065/unknown.png

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Might be hard to tell the difference during the day, but at certain time at night or in the early morning if white is too white it may start to "shine"

woeful viper Nov 26, 2019, 2:41 PM

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have you tried if blending is different to supershader? Because blending for super shader is described on biki

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 2:44 PM

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it definitely could be since treeAdvTrunk uses _CS.paa on the latest trees at least

woeful viper Nov 26, 2019, 2:44 PM

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super shader mc map: "RGB is calculated as LERP with basic map"

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 2:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 2:58 PM

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now i need to find a user-friendly explanation of lerp

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biki says that in supershader alpha channel defines what to use, but in treeadv(trunk) alpha channel is pure ambient shadow

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i mean there is no way to define how and where to blend basic and macro textures in treeadv(trunk)

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:04 PM

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might the blending of mc onto basic be hardcoded?

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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well, it looks like that for these shaders

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:06 PM

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maintexture rgb * mca rgb * 4.5947
simple multiplicative blending

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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maintexture rgb * mca rgb * 4.5947 where is it from?

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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are these rgb's 0 to 1 or 0 to 255?

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:09 PM

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floats. 01

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:10 PM

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i mean where did you get this formula?

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:10 PM

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must've seen it somewhere, don't remember

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:10 PM

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love the 4.5947

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ok, so 0.9 x 0.9 x 4.5947 = 3.72 which clips to 1?

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:16 PM

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lighting also takes an effect

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if tree is in shade, its just black

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:16 PM

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that's if mc's alpha is 0

bold flare Nov 26, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I guess thats just to offset the light level stuff

tulip beacon Nov 26, 2019, 3:17 PM

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i didn't make screens with alpha A/B

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 10:59 PM

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So I'm following a modeling tutorial with blender
The person in the video tells me to check the "Arma Object Properties" box under a panel labeled "Shading"
I'm using Blender 2.81 and I see no such thing anywhere
And google isn't any help as usual

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 10:59 PM

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its in different place. on the right side where the other panels are

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if I rememeber right

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Does it have something to do with Arma Toolbox Material Settings

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 11:00 PM

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no

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well yes but I think it should be different panel

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do you have right version of the toolbox installed?

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the 2.8 version from FHQ git?

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Lemme check

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Alright I think I found the right one
But it's saying "upgrade to 2.8x required" in blender
What

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 11:05 PM

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maybe its not the right one?

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Could you link me to the right one

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 PM

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soz im heading to sleep.

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I dont think theres many links on the git

cobalt pawn Nov 26, 2019, 11:06 PM

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you can find the latest one here.

https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox/releases

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:09 PM

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The same options are present with this one as the first one I tried

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2019, 11:09 PM

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so you have object selected?

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:09 PM

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ye

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I just don't have any clue where to find the shading panel in this version or whatever it has become

cobalt pawn Nov 26, 2019, 11:11 PM

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here's a pic where to find it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/610473651116048424/649024372945715213/arma_tools.png

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press N on keyboard.

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Thanks

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I found it

granite edge Nov 26, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Trying to export my object as a p3d makes it throw an error that says a Mesh object has no attribute "calc_tessface"

cobalt pawn Nov 26, 2019, 11:49 PM

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under Arma Tools Window click on "Tesselate all non-quads". Not sure if it will fix it, I've never seen that error before.

granite edge Nov 27, 2019, 12:02 AM

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um
that just causes another error
AttributeError: module 'ArmaTools' has no attribute 'tessNonQuads'

cobalt pawn Nov 27, 2019, 12:33 AM

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@granite edge Might be an error with the armatools addon. Try deleting the ArmaToolbox Folder at the file location below and then reinstall the addon. Make sure you leave the ArmaToolsBox file you downloaded as a zip file.
"C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.81\scripts\addons"

granite edge Nov 27, 2019, 12:37 AM

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I removed it and tried reinstalling it but blender hard crashed lmao

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alright that solved my problem

muted prairie Nov 28, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Does anyone have a share-able list of all fire geometry damage materials? I recall finding a bunch years back when I was dabbling with object builder but have no memory of where that was

bold flare Nov 28, 2019, 8:06 AM

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they are all in the same folder in the Vanilla pbo, if I only knew which one now 😄

slate epoch Nov 28, 2019, 8:37 AM

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A3\Data_f\Penetration\

muted prairie Nov 28, 2019, 9:06 AM

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thanks! very useful to have them at hand

sour sigil Nov 28, 2019, 3:13 PM

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where would be the best place to start to learn how to model

bold flare Nov 28, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I'd say blenderguru's youtube channel 🤔

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just something generic, non arma related.
Probably hard-surface oriented

sour sigil Nov 28, 2019, 3:26 PM

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let me rephrase, i know how to use blender, i don’t know how porting into arma works

slate epoch Nov 28, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I think that Arma Toolbox might help you 😉 😄

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/145290-arma-toolbox-for-blender-arma-23-exporter-script/

Also afaik there are some videos how to, for Blender 2.79

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Arma Toolbox for Blender - Arma 2/3 exporter script

This is the Arma Toolbox for Blender, a collection of python scripts that allow you to import and export P3D modles in MLOD format from/to Blender, with some extra support for things like Proxies, LODs and other Arma-Specific things. The Toolbox is open source and under GPL-3...

gaunt cobalt Nov 28, 2019, 3:35 PM

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hi, i need to force soldiers and vehicles to walk on the surface of an object, something similar to what happens with ponds

woeful viper Nov 28, 2019, 3:47 PM

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? only jesus walks on water

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2019, 3:52 PM

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there is no native way tomake things walk on surfaces.

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except path lods but that might not be what you are after

slate epoch Nov 28, 2019, 3:54 PM

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or if it's like house or something, then roadway lod

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path lod is for AI 😛

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2019, 3:54 PM

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assuming AI is in question as he ask about forcing walking

slate epoch Nov 28, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Ah yeah

gaunt cobalt Nov 28, 2019, 4:02 PM

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this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQxTXyYgOTw

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I'm thinking of some way to fool the engine and make believe that it's about an invisible pond, maybe

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but I don't know if it's possible or how to do it

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2019, 4:06 PM

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that does not make any sense. Please describe what you actually want to make

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@gaunt cobalt are you trying to make a pond or something else?

gaunt cobalt Nov 28, 2019, 4:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/1iXkgHR.jpg

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I need it to be really an obstacle to get through this

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stone rivers

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Stone-run.JPG/1200px-Stone-run.JPG

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2019, 4:36 PM

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forget the ponds

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thats not the right way

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your rocks are solid objects

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so they need roadway surfaces and pathlods for AI to navigate them

gaunt cobalt Nov 28, 2019, 4:55 PM

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but they could still run on them, right?

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I need you to walk slowly

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(google translator, sorry)

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I want to simulate the irregular surface, walking and also on a vehicle

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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characters by default walk on pathlod paths

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and if you make the surface rough and make blocky rough geometry for geometry lod, vehicles will bounce on it and probably break up

weary citrus Nov 30, 2019, 4:10 PM

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16:58:36 Bad muzzle direction in Flashlight_Maglite:'usti hlavne'-'konec hlavne'```

Getting this in RPT, what could that mean? I don't use those memory points. Should I?

bold flare Nov 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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handgun might need muzzle direction

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even if it can't fire

weary citrus Nov 30, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Fixed by using:

muzzlePos = "flash";
muzzleEnd = "flash dir";

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Yeah no points means it defaults to 0,0,0 for both and that's baaaaa-aaa-a-a-a-d

gaunt cobalt Nov 30, 2019, 10:58 PM

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@stuck oyster
https://i.imgur.com/8gOzk5H.png

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Could be like this?

quiet terrace Nov 30, 2019, 11:13 PM

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@gaunt cobalt I think HorribleGoat has some huge QuestionMarks on his head as I am.
but after reading and think over it a couple times.....is it possible that you want a character to be very slow when he passes a river or another specific ground? Like you can not sprint in swamps?

if so this is something that is hardly made with an object itself.
to pick an example from map builder. you have to get your textures properties that finally would tell an object that passes it what conditions this ground has.
so if you define your textures with water properties and would assign this texture to the area you want it to and ran over it you would apruptly slowed down to whatever speed you have set it to

gaunt cobalt Nov 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Yes, what I need is that units and vehicles reduce speed when they pass over the stones

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https://imgur.com/a/guRPnGg

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

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water wont work

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you need ground surface type thats set to affect speed

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if there i such parameter

gaunt cobalt Dec 1, 2019, 1:11 AM

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for vehicles it's fine, just need to find some limitation for the infantry

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_SBSl6v40

tulip beacon Dec 1, 2019, 10:46 AM

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@gaunt cobalt pretty darn good looking

fleet elm Dec 1, 2019, 5:26 PM

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So if I wanted to do something as simple as adding a name to a vest, how would I go about doing that?

lunar tiger Dec 1, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Anyone know any way to download assets as a character to open in 3ds max?

median bough Dec 1, 2019, 8:56 PM

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what...?

lunar tiger Dec 1, 2019, 8:58 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/evnkU8P.png

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can you open the clothing model in 3ds?

median bough Dec 1, 2019, 9:00 PM

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if you mean if it is possible to open arma 3 p3d models in 3ds to modify it, the answer is:

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https://giphy.com/gifs/LRKET0Syb0rDO

Giphy

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(nope)

lunar tiger Dec 1, 2019, 9:03 PM

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backpacks, pants, clothes work?

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equipaments

steel vector Dec 1, 2019, 9:05 PM

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The models for Arma 3 (all models) are not allowed to be opened and/or modified.
Retextures are allowed as long as it meets the applied licenses

lunar tiger Dec 1, 2019, 9:07 PM

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and objects that other people modeled, like backpack, guns etc?

bold flare Dec 1, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Only if the author of the model shares the source files

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which is rarely done

steel vector Dec 1, 2019, 9:07 PM

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If you want to make your own models and need a base to work from you can get the free assets on Steam

median bough Dec 1, 2019, 9:08 PM

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... i get a feeling, woooohooooo ... 🎶

steel vector Dec 1, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Same here 🙈

median bough Dec 1, 2019, 9:09 PM

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@lunar tiger
to cut it short:
anything that comes in P3D format is NOT allowed to be edited unless you have explicit permission by the original creator.

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and don't even think about asking for ways to do it anyway. just a little wink 😉

steel vector Dec 1, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I know, I know 🙈🙉🙊

outer condor Dec 2, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@median bough as always its important to be precise
BI sample models come as p3d source format (MLOD) (and other formats for a few)

one can use OB to export to other formats
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/164400-p3d-to-3ds/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

P3d to 3ds

Hi there, I am completely new to modelling in Arma. I have been trying access the BI Arma 2 models for use in 3DS but I cant seem to get it to happen. I have tried converting the models using Oxygen but it does not seem to work. I have also found Soul_Assassins tools, however...

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📎 unknown.png

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as long as a source p3d is available, and the license allows, you can modify it

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explicit permission is not required depending on the license

bold flare Dec 2, 2019, 2:43 PM

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We all know the didn't mean BI sample models.

outer condor Dec 2, 2019, 5:33 PM

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you answer always for a general audience

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hence you generalize your response

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why else would you respond in a channel instead of PM otherwise

bold flare Dec 2, 2019, 5:39 PM

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you answer always for a general audience
I don't. I usually reply on a case-by-case basis.

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why else would you respond in a channel instead of PM otherwise
Why have a open forum if everyone might aswell PM eachother?

outer condor Dec 2, 2019, 5:56 PM

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waste of everyone's time

woeful viper Dec 2, 2019, 6:34 PM

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"general audience" your generalized statement will be lost after 5 posts because finding something in the history is a lost cause

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and the general audience appears to be ... "those people" 90% of the time

bold flare Dec 2, 2019, 6:35 PM

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And things like

explicit permission is not required depending on the license
WILL be missunderstood (or willingly missinterpreted) as a "I don't need permission unless the license says I do"
which is wrong. And they will then just say "that guy said its fine, not my fault"

woeful viper Dec 2, 2019, 6:36 PM

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explicit license is required UNLESS the license says otherwise

bold flare Dec 2, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Answering a "can I rip this guys stuff and edit and republish it" with a generalized
"If you have the p3d you can export it and edit it"
isn't really productive to the situation. And people usually come here to get specific answers to their specific questions.
Generalized answers are very good on forums, where people use search to find it and be enlightened by it

outer condor Dec 2, 2019, 6:43 PM

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read again what i wrote Dedmen

bold flare Dec 2, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I did

outer condor Dec 2, 2019, 6:45 PM

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and the license allows

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seems not

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and you missed i tagged audiocustoms - aka talking to him and not that random guy

median bough Dec 2, 2019, 6:49 PM

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anything that comes in P3D format is NOT allowed to be edited unless you have explicit permission by the original creator.
and BI grand explicit permission for sample models, public data pack and what not. to refer to your response

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i didn't see the means of going deep into detail with that guy since his wording of the questions pointed into a uncomfortable direction

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i might be wrong about him in particular, but experience tells me that people who ask those questions, also the way how he asked them, have shady minds

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i might be a little biased, but i also got reasons to be. like many other content creators on here... sadly...

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explicit permission is not required depending on the license
well, the license is the "explicit permission by the creator", or the other way around: is not

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so, depending on how you look at it, we are both right and wrong 😄

outer condor Dec 3, 2019, 5:58 AM

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explicit normally means you ask the author directly. this is not necessary if the license states otherwise

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even more an author can always give individual exceptions (to a license or in general)

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my advice for those who want to do 1on1 assistance, and are too branded by the rife abuse:
first question should be to ask if he/she is the author of the asset and can show proof/meaningful evidence, or if can demonstrate a license/permission if 3rd party

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then you can end conversations early and not waste your time

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and as results these channels can be helpful again for legitimate users

marsh canyon Dec 3, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Quick question: Is it even possible to use proxy models to show as a weapon accessory?

rough idol Dec 3, 2019, 12:11 PM

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no

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you can do some hacks with magproxies & hidden muzzle though

marsh canyon Dec 3, 2019, 12:13 PM

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Oh okay

weary citrus Dec 6, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Is it possible to position items in a ground holder when dropped from inventory?

📎 image.png

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LandContact is working when placing the ground holder via 3den

📎 image.png

twin urchin Dec 6, 2019, 10:02 AM

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you can if you have weapon holder

rough idol Dec 6, 2019, 10:16 AM

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you have to model it in a way so it fits that default weapon holder

hollow cypress Dec 6, 2019, 10:19 AM

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Just quick question, which software to you recommend using for models? And do you think adding accessories to already existing uniforms would work?

bold flare Dec 6, 2019, 10:20 AM

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And do you think adding accessories to already existing uniforms
if you don't have source files you cannot modify the model, and I don't think proxying in a uniform would work.
You can model accessories as goggles though.

I use 3ds max, but Blender is especially good because of the Arma blender toolbox

weary citrus Dec 6, 2019, 10:43 AM

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you have to model it in a way so it fits that default weapon holder

thank you

orchid spruce Dec 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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why would putting sights on my custom gun cause the camera position to go all wrong when aiming? isn't camera position taken from the scope p3d in that case?

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why would putting sights on my custom gun cause the camera position to go all wrong when aiming? isn't camera position taken from the scope p3d in that case?

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also can someone help me figure out how do that thing where you have a scope mount that is only visible when a scope is attached?

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I have this in the model.cfg but it doesn't seem to work class rail_hide { type="hide"; source="hasOptics"; selection="rail_lowprofile"; minValue = 0.000000; maxValue = 1.00000; hideValue = 0.0; unhideValue = 0.7; };

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ah nvm about the not hiding issue, I forgot to include that selection in the skeleton bit

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there's still the sight issue though

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nvm again, it was because I didn't have the ViewPilot lod

stuck oyster Dec 7, 2019, 10:02 PM

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👌 Thanks for writing what the issue was! could help someone else

icy ridge Dec 7, 2019, 10:48 PM

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For understanding the proxy system: Could someone tell me why the BI Sample Vest has a proxy? all tutorial I read point to vests not having proxy except for holsters were the gun model will be visible in the holster. The Tactical Vest doesn't seem to have any of that functionality.

stuck oyster Dec 7, 2019, 11:06 PM

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what proxy does it have?

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the holster it seems

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so that particular vest is just an example

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and does not represent the actual model that has same visuals in the game

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its just for the sake of example

icy ridge Dec 7, 2019, 11:20 PM

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what confused me is, that there is no Holster modeled.

stuck oyster Dec 7, 2019, 11:21 PM

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it is there just for examples sake

icy ridge Dec 7, 2019, 11:21 PM

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ok thank you

stuck oyster Dec 7, 2019, 11:21 PM

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the model is not meant to be used

bold flare Dec 8, 2019, 8:02 PM

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figured i'd ask here as well
figured people were able to read #rules before breaking them..
Please delete that message, I'd have to ban you to delete it.

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@midnight verge

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The rule is number 9 which says "no crossposting"

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thanks

midnight verge Dec 8, 2019, 8:03 PM

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hmmm ok

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no worries

orchid spruce Dec 8, 2019, 8:39 PM

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does anyone know why a part of a model would be randomly using the wrong normal map? the paths in the p3d are all correct, it's pointing to the correct rvmat and the rvmat is pointing to the correct _nohq map but it's still not using that

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I have my gun model that has a material that's used on most of it and then some parts have their own materials, but some of those parts still somehow use the normal map from the main parts

orchid spruce Dec 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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aaaand it randomly fixed itself

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thanks, arma

median bough Dec 8, 2019, 9:31 PM

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arma'd

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¯_(ツ)_/¯