#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 133

stuck oyster Mar 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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so easier just to make new one

drowsy slate Mar 16, 2019, 10:15 PM

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it's for a video so actually releasing a polished drivable version was just a secondary project. guess it will remain video only until arma 4 lol

bold flare Mar 16, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Just take a quad. attachTo the dump truck to it. And drive the quad around

drowsy slate Mar 16, 2019, 10:18 PM

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for the video the wheels need to spin, so it had to be a proper vehicle, so I just made a really rough version with no interior or lights or anything like that

quick terrace Mar 16, 2019, 10:43 PM

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@polar fiber i asked, the answer was no. i also asked for something where they (BI) would have received the work i wanted to do as well - some interiors

polar fiber Mar 16, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Yeah, but he only asked about the process of asking. I was merely saying that even though it is a waste of time that goes nowhere, there are still ways to ask.

woeful viper Mar 17, 2019, 12:06 PM

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i think its unfortunate that vanilla stuff cant be touched in the slightest - for people who like the scenario of vanilla at least. If it wasnt like this we surely would have had a big bunch of "addons" for those vehicles - like alternate turrets and so on.

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i dont think there are many games that allow modding but not allow modifying the vanilla content... arma is the only one i can think of actually.

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modifying vanilla content is how i got into modelling (for X3 and bf:v) - doesnt require the "full set" of skills like it does for making a good looking model from scratch.
its lowering the entry barrier

white jay Mar 17, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Hey I have a question about Garage animations , how can I execute in the statement 2 animations delayed

stuck oyster Mar 17, 2019, 1:46 PM

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you can give different model.cfg animations different timings with the minValue and maxValue parameters

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for exampe if whole animation goes from 0 to 1

white jay Mar 17, 2019, 1:47 PM

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i have do this so: statement =
"this animate [""garage_gate_1"", 1]";
sleep 5;
"this animate [""garage_gate_1_X"", -2.4]";

stuck oyster Mar 17, 2019, 1:48 PM

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I suggest you write it into .sqf script file and run the script from the statement

white jay Mar 17, 2019, 1:48 PM

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okay thanks 😃

frozen umbra Mar 17, 2019, 11:46 PM

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hey lads, quick Q

does geo lod named property 'class' can have value = 'vehicle' ? according to bis wiki it only can have values such as : 'building', 'bush', 'fuelstation', 'fence', 'house', 'streetlamp', 'housesimulated','road','pond','BushSoft','BushHard','TreeSoft','TreeHard'
is there more Un-listed named properties I should be aware of?

woeful viper Mar 17, 2019, 11:51 PM

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you dont need it for vehicles

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 11:20 AM

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anyone know of a quick way to check how many LODs an ODOL contains?

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even better if it could report the face count in each.

twin urchin Mar 18, 2019, 11:28 AM

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maybe with Eliteness?

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 11:30 AM

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thanks, quite right

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 1:27 PM

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new question, with hiddenselections, is it possible to hide a selection by omitting a texture in the middle of the array using empty quotes ("")?

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i.e. {"tex01.paa", "", "tex03.paa"}

twin urchin Mar 18, 2019, 1:33 PM

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yes that should work

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being blank means that section will be hidden

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 1:35 PM

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cool, i guess if it didn't work one could just redefine the HS array to omit the unwanted selection name

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HS[] = {"Camo1", "Camo3"}; HST[] = {"tex01.paa", "tex03.paa"};

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but then i guess "Camo2" might show with the default tex.

twin urchin Mar 18, 2019, 1:37 PM

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i think so

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 1:37 PM

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thx

twin urchin Mar 18, 2019, 1:38 PM

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no problem 😛

torn pilot Mar 18, 2019, 1:39 PM

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or maybe; HS[] = {"Camo1", "Camo3", "Camo2"}; HST[] = {"tex01.paa", "tex03.paa"};

stuck oyster Mar 18, 2019, 1:41 PM

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HS[] = {"Camo1", "Camo3", "Camo2"}; HST[] = {"tex01.paa", "tex03.paa",""}; It might be better to have the last "" there too

white jay Mar 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I didn't understand exactly where it should be applied the antiwater

white jay Mar 18, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I can't find it in the folder a3

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into P Drive

stuck oyster Mar 19, 2019, 12:39 AM

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@white jay antiwater?

white jay Mar 19, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Anti-water rvmat required

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for make a boat

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drivable

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@stuck oyster

slate epoch Mar 19, 2019, 8:17 AM

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It's not like it would make it magically drivable, just water doesn't get rendered inside of boat

torn pilot Mar 19, 2019, 2:04 PM

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is it possible to say what's better performance-wise, four slightly-varied models sharing one texture or a single model with four variations achieved through hidden selections (five textures, at least two loaded for any variant)?

bold flare Mar 19, 2019, 2:10 PM

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four variants using hide animations might be better? Not sure if the engine is intelligent enough to not render fully hidden parts.

Depends on how many are loaded. If all variants are placed then I'd think the slightly varied models are more expensive, because you basically have to render a full duplicate every time.
Whereas the second idea the model data is essentially the same.

polar fiber Mar 19, 2019, 2:18 PM

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hiddenSelections that share the same texture can be akin to adding extra sections IIRC

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If the variations have unique textures for the different sections it's probably more efficient

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but if you intend to have shadow lod components for the parts you are hiding, those wont disappear and you'll have shadows cast by invisible objects

torn pilot Mar 19, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I know nothing, but I do seem to recall additional textures (sections?) being a bad thing - i.e. requiring whole additional draw call (???). That got me thinking HS might be relatively inefficient. And I expect the model data is more compact when it comes to video memory (???).

bold flare Mar 19, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Yes. Seperate sections are seperate draw calls.
Seperate models are too though

torn pilot Mar 19, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Would that not be the case also with two identical models (separate draw calls) or are you suggesting it will draw all instances of a given model at once?

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Not a biggie, I was just wondering if there was some established ideal.

bold flare Mar 19, 2019, 2:32 PM

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identical models can be batched together. Not sure what the limits on that are though. It might only work with models that are not animated

minor jasper Mar 19, 2019, 3:58 PM

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we did some instancing tests last week, placed over 100 USS Libertys in the tanoa volcano

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so millions of polys up close tothe pl;ayer, models tilted at varying angles

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each model calling for 10+ 4k textures

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and we checked fps

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it was fine

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which told us that instancing was working for the USS Liberty

clever ibex Mar 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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hello all so ive just created a model bridge and some vegetation how would i create a bounding box for them? So they appear on the in game map?is their any documentation for this on how to set this up?

stuck oyster Mar 19, 2019, 4:59 PM

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@clever ibex object bounds are automatically calculated. The map type it shows in game is defined in the map named property

clever ibex Mar 19, 2019, 4:59 PM

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got it thx 👍

livid kelp Mar 20, 2019, 2:48 PM

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hi can somebody tell me how to attach a sound (i allreready have made one) to my door ?
https://gyazo.com/4b87d8148918a7eade7b0cca372fff54

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2019, 2:51 PM

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@livid kelp https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/184094-adding-animation-sounds/?do=findComment&comment=2902646

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Adding Animation Sounds

Hi all, Did a search on the forums for sound and animation, but surprisingly it didnt actually turn up much! Basically, Ive got a config entry for adding a sound and I wondered where Im meant to put it: sound[] = {\Gun_Cabinet\Gun_Cabinet\Sounds\Gun_Cabinet_Close.ogg, 10.0000...

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the example post with the info you need should come up straight from the link

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        class AnimationSources
        {
            class Gun_Cabinet_Rotation
            {
                source = "user";
                initPhase = 0;
                animPeriod = 1.75;
                Sound = "MetalDoorsSound";
                SoundPosition = "ActionPoint";
            }
        };```

livid kelp Mar 20, 2019, 3:04 PM

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i guess my configsound is wrong
https://gyazo.com/9dd0b4a5f544a9a93ce26882f0f81d1b
in my config.cpp:
class CfgSounds
{
class wheel_door_01
{
name="wheel_door_01";
sound[]=
{
"atm\atm_structures\data\door\sounds\wheel_door_01",
1.1220185,
1,
300,
1,
0,
0,
0
};
titles[]={};
};
};
And in my object:
class AnimationSources
{
class Zeroanimation
{
source = "user";
animPeriod = 5;
initPhase = 0;
sound = "wheel_door_01";
SoundPosition = "door";
};
};

rough idol Mar 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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{
    class RHS_UAZ_Door
    {
        class DoorMovement
        {
            loop = 0;
            terminate = 1;
            trigger = "(phase factor[0.05,0.10]) * (phase factor[0.95,0.9])";
            sound0[] = {"rhsafrf\addons\rhs_a2port_car\sounds\UAZ\ext-uaz-getin",db+10,1,60};
            sound1[] = {"rhsafrf\addons\rhs_a2port_car\sounds\UAZ\ext-uaz-getout",db+10,1,60};
            sound[] = {"sound0",0.5,"sound1",0.5};
        };
    };
};``` @livid kelp

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sound need to be defined in cfgAnimationSourcesSounds

livid kelp Mar 20, 2019, 4:15 PM

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thanks, wheres the difference between : OpenTheDoor, SlamTheDoor and DoorMovement ?

rough idol Mar 20, 2019, 4:18 PM

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you can play specific sound depending on animation phase

lethal anchor Mar 20, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Hey, I am looking at putting a helmet into game. I have no idea what to define in object builder is someone able to help me?

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2019, 10:58 PM

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@lethal anchor The Arma3 Sample files have example for helmet that you can use as a reference

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Also El_Tyranos tutorials cover a lot of how to put different things into the game and could be helpful

lethal anchor Mar 22, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@stuck oyster, can you send me a link to him?

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2019, 2:56 PM

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dont have one at hand. Googling should bring them up and the thread is pinned in BIforums model editing section too

worthy nimbus Mar 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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hey all am trying to make a costom ui panel carmra for a gun sytem on a vic i have the panel art work done in paint shop but dont know how to get this panel to show inside the carmra system any help is more than welcome at this point.
i be leave its an optic art work that shows when you are in the camra posion

stoic blaze Mar 22, 2019, 10:22 PM

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So how much would I need to pay, to have someone make a REALLY nice MRAP?

bold flare Mar 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Assuming with REALLY you mean really really really nice...
4 digits range. And you would use #creators_recruiting if you wanted to actually pay someone for it

stoic blaze Mar 22, 2019, 10:24 PM

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So, a semi nice one?

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2019, 10:24 PM

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didnt someone already make one

bold flare Mar 22, 2019, 10:24 PM

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You're probably better off just learning to model yourself

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2019, 10:24 PM

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kinda remember seeing one on the forums

stoic blaze Mar 22, 2019, 10:25 PM

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If that's the case and someone could pop a quick link to that I'd appreciate it 😛

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2019, 10:33 PM

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will take same time for you to google it that it would take me

stoic blaze Mar 22, 2019, 11:02 PM

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which forum we talking about tho?

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2019, 11:05 PM

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BI Forum.. The official one

undone nexus Mar 23, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Hey Quick Question is it possible to make Indicators via Model cfgand useraction that looks like that?

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https://prnt.sc/n1qj5e

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or here a video from arma3 idk from which modder
https://gyazo.com/65563027f10fcb3f272fe4978eae6151
if yes any ideas how?

stuck oyster Mar 23, 2019, 2:47 PM

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dropped you a solution suggestion on the other channel you asked about this. Generally it is polite (and in the rules too) to post same thing only on one channel

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in other news, I've done a little touchups to the Lost Dragons battlearmor helmet

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 WIP_GOAT_Helmet_V2_04.png

woeful viper Mar 23, 2019, 3:14 PM

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are those guns in the eye? With ammo feed chain for the horns? 😄 that would be awesome

stuck oyster Mar 23, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Indeed it is

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The G.O.A.T Assault helmet

quick terrace Mar 23, 2019, 5:14 PM

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@stuck oyster someone took the goat thing a bit literarily 😃

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👍

stuck oyster Mar 23, 2019, 6:01 PM

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😜

agile zenith Mar 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Can anyone point me towards the right direction related to making proxies in blender and possibly some more info regarding proxies and how they work in general?

stuck oyster Mar 23, 2019, 8:18 PM

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proxies have different uses but mainly they are placeholders for the engine to replace wiht appropriatet model

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for example characters have multiple proxies like the weapon and launcher

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that are used in the engine to determine where the weapon model is loaded to

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in Blender if you are using the latest FHQ toolbox addon (Blender 2.79) you can add proxies in one of the menus

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in the model proxy is represented by a 3 pointed face that has one corner 90degrees. That corner is the position of the proxy

agile zenith Mar 23, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@stuck oyster You are a absolute hero, thanks!

formal vapor Mar 23, 2019, 8:31 PM

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ugh, I can't hide a shadow object with hidden selections

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it use to always work but now it's not, what am I missing? The resolution lods work perfectly with selections, but not this

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I think I know what happened

polar fiber Mar 23, 2019, 8:40 PM

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AFAIK it shouldn't be the case that shadows hide with hiddenSelections

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since HS just changes the texture applied to visual geo

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not the geo itself

rigid elm Mar 23, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Hey there, I'm fairly new to modding, I only did some retextures so far, but I now I want to import models for a helmet, vest and uniform or just as a playermodel, to see how it looks ingame and I was wondering if anyone here is able to help me because I have no idea how to do all that

median bough Mar 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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@rigid elm
take a look at the arma 3 samples. you can download them via steam.
once downloaded go to
..\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01
and you will find almost all you have to know there

rigid elm Mar 24, 2019, 12:07 AM

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I downloaded them but the character sample loads incorrect into blender with the head missing and a bunch of giant triangles

median bough Mar 24, 2019, 12:09 AM

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the giant triangles are the so called "proxy" models
they mark the point where another model will be "inserted" to the existing model and you will see them ingame as "merged"

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is will be done by the game

rigid elm Mar 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Ahh, thank you very much

median bough Mar 24, 2019, 12:12 AM

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so let's say you have a unit, and this unit needs a helmet. you don't add the helmet to the actual unit, you create a second model of the helmet and "link" it to the units head
that's a veeeeery basic explanation. others in here can do that better since i'm not an actual model maker myself

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😄

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but it's in the middle of the night for most of them, so patience is needed 😄

rigid elm Mar 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Its in the middle of the night for me too and I was about to go off and check for answers tomorrow 😄

median bough Mar 24, 2019, 12:13 AM

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good plan. best of luck then

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cya

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😉

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also signs off, has to work in 5h

rigid elm Mar 24, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Thank you, cya

formal vapor Mar 24, 2019, 3:18 AM

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@polar fiber I've used hidden selections to hid shadow parts before, at least I very well remember doing so

tulip beacon Mar 24, 2019, 5:26 AM

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what is face fading?

granite berry Mar 24, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Anyone know what to do when the views in object builder pan/rotate super slowly (alt+mouse1 and alt+mouse2)?

strong plaza Mar 24, 2019, 2:45 PM

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does your model have a very high polycount?

slate epoch Mar 24, 2019, 2:47 PM

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Well also check if you have DX turned on

still otter Mar 24, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I wanted to import a blender model to object builder. But whatever the datatype is there is a error. What am I doing wrong?

bold flare Mar 24, 2019, 3:45 PM

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what error?
Are you going via file->import ?

still otter Mar 24, 2019, 3:46 PM

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yeah, depends on the datatype. OBJ says extra characters on the line

slate epoch Mar 24, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Just use P3D plugin for Blender or is that no-go for you?

bold flare Mar 24, 2019, 3:46 PM

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blender with the Arma toolbox can already export p3d

still otter Mar 24, 2019, 3:46 PM

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and if i use the blender toolbox and export the model as p3d, error says unable to load file

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it was my way to go, but the error message is quiet useless to understand what is the problem

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 5:34 PM

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@still otter explain your p3d export process please, perhaps you are doing something wrong

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and which program says unable to load file?

still otter Mar 24, 2019, 5:37 PM

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i fixed it. With repair tools from win10

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 5:37 PM

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odd

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but good that you got it running

agile zenith Mar 24, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Not sure if this is the right place to ask it but since almost everyone here prob uses the fqh toolbox for blender i'd just try my luck. When creating a proxy in blender i get this error. https://gyazo.com/b84ecffefae804de21002b64b0c0074f Anyone know any fixes?

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I already checked if i was on the latest version

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 7:29 PM

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how do you create the proxy in blender?

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basically a proxy is just a triangle that has the proxy path as named selection

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but FHQ toolbox has some fancy tools for that too

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The proxy must however be joined with the LOD object that has Arma properties enabled

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you are likley trying to export a scene that has some other stuff in it too than Arma property objects

agile zenith Mar 24, 2019, 7:31 PM

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shift a > mesh > arma proxy while on the visual lod

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i dont get it while exporting, i get it after trying to create a proxy

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 7:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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try this

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not sure about the add proxy in the create menu

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could be its some old function thats no longer supported

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mine is greyed out

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📎 unknown.png

agile zenith Mar 24, 2019, 7:35 PM

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That's literally not there for me?

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 7:35 PM

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ur using some old version 😛

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no wonder shizels dont work

agile zenith Mar 24, 2019, 7:35 PM

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I updated it using the bohemia thread before this though

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/145290-arma-toolbox-for-blender-arma-23-exporter-script/ downloaded this one

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Ohh he has a experimental version

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Is that the one you're using?

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 7:37 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/145290-arma-toolbox-for-blender-arma-23-exporter-script/?do=findComment&comment=3310337

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Arma Toolbox for Blender - Arma 2/3 exporter script

On 3/16/2018 at 9:24 AM, Alwarren said: Feel free to try this experimental update and see if that fixes your problem https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_C1BxZphNz9Xzc0UWUtQmhrNjA Ill try it out. EDIT: I tried it, it still gave a trace error which did not export the .p3d. (The...

agile zenith Mar 24, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Thank you, it works!

stuck oyster Mar 24, 2019, 7:41 PM

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👌

buoyant condor Mar 25, 2019, 8:12 AM

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Hey lads, can you link to a tutorial or something similar for making custom vehicle optics, thanks

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 8:13 AM

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there are no tutorials for that

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I guess when people are in the stage that they need to make something more "advanced" stuff like that they ususally know where in the vanilla configs to look for examples

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basically you can just copy one of the vanilla optics classes and change stuff to your liking

buoyant condor Mar 25, 2019, 8:30 AM

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quick question about the optics. Do they need to be in a .p3d file or i can straight up use .paa

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 8:31 AM

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p3d

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optics are just flat plane with the texture on it

buoyant condor Mar 25, 2019, 8:32 AM

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fair enough, does the plane need to be a set size?

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or it just needs to match up with the paa

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 8:34 AM

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the size and position will affect what it looks like in game

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hmm you might find an example in the released A2 data. Not sure if theres any for A3 released

minor jasper Mar 25, 2019, 10:20 AM

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looking into fx design, i don't see a thread here for it?

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Is Rv4 compatible with Houdini?

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I imagine not?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 10:21 AM

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probably not off the shelf

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I think FX stuff has been spread over #arma3_scripting and #arma3_config

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but there has been very little talk about it so no dedicated channel has sprung up

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 11:43 AM

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how to prevent dead body to NOT fall through a custom floor part ? object have geo & roadways lods.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 11:44 AM

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sometimes that just happens. Dont think you can prevent it.

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vanilla objects have same issues

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Some do, some don't. I wonder whats the reason behind it.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 11:46 AM

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probably dead guys simulation precision

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 11:51 AM

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doesnt really make any sense, if you kill ai on top of the roof of some building his body stays there. see no reason why it should act differently on other models, its just something is missing at the custom model itself.

quick terrace Mar 25, 2019, 11:54 AM

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what is that floor width?

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in the geo lod?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 11:55 AM

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how many floors does the building have might affect it too I suppose

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 11:59 AM

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its just single layer "fake floor" . simple shape. the size is x=8 y=8 z=0.3

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:03 PM

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am I to assume its some sort of building part?

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you could perhaps test it with thicker geometry

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like 1.0 instead of 0.3

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Yeah , its just a simple tile to be used as fake floor part. LODs are set, all works fine for players and AI , but this one little thing with falling corpse.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:06 PM

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are there a lof of those

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Arma is known to not liking stuff build from small parts like that

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especially if theyre not terrain objects

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:08 PM

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even if you place ONE and ai killed on it, it falls through , so we can scratch that out. let me test it with thicker geo

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:09 PM

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thicker might work yeah

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vertical position precision with dead bodies might not be very accurate, or they might poke through the 0.3

quick terrace Mar 25, 2019, 12:13 PM

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0.3 what? meters? so 30cm ?

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that should be enough, anything smaller than 10 cm is prone to issues afaik

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:19 PM

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yep.

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Ok, I think I got it. Added Collision Geometry LOD and now its ok. How performance heavy is this newly added LOD gonna be, if lets say I have 20-30 of these parts clustered?
Its safe to say if we can observer a body falling through a roof/floor when killed , building\part have no Collision Geometry..?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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you did not have geometry lod in it?

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:32 PM

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nope )

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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that would explain the issue.

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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so some vanilla parts don't have collision, its that simple?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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no

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size of things and rotation of things affect it too

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but performance is not about the collisions but the amount of objects you create dynamically on the run

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20-30 is not a lot

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but if you start to build multiple structures out of parts like that then it will start to make a hit

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also keep in mind there may be number of other objects in the scene

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Arma is not meant for large scale dynamic building

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:38 PM

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no, these parts won't be used for building structures of course. as per falling bodies , maybe setting collision lod for "roof" and "floor" components is enough instead of the whole building?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:39 PM

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I dont quite understand the use of them, but no you need collision in all objects

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otherwise things will go through them

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you wont gain anything from leaving the geometry lods out

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except misery

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:40 PM

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im not talking about geometry lods

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geo physc

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:41 PM

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just give them that too

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:41 PM

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cool

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thanks dude

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:41 PM

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vehicles will need the physx lod anyway

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if a p3d does not have one of the "special" geom lods it defaults them too to the normal geometry lod

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but some things can break when it does that

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so best bet to make things work right is to have all the necessary lods in there

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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when you say "things can break" what do you mean ? can you give an example?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:49 PM

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what you have experienced with the bodies for example

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unexpected engine behaviour

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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now that I think of it, if I had geo phys lod missing and the engine used geo lod instead (by the default, as you said) it was just looking at part that had no mass.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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dont have geom parts that dont have mass

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if you intend them to have collision

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 12:52 PM

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thats it

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TIL )

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 12:53 PM

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🙈

quick terrace Mar 25, 2019, 1:24 PM

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PuFu: in the geo lod?
The Dude: added Collision Geometry LOD and now its ok.
@frozen umbra lol dude, i asked if you had geo lod....

frozen umbra Mar 25, 2019, 1:26 PM

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I did have ) not phys one "special" - Collision Geometry.

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in the end it doesnt matter , since it uses Geometry if Geometry Phys is missing and Geometry had no mass )

Geometry
Geometry Phys

quick terrace Mar 25, 2019, 2:06 PM

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for structures you don't need physix one

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 2:08 PM

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i've found vehicle collision sometimes working poorly if its not present

quick terrace Mar 25, 2019, 4:39 PM

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yes, that is true

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 9:54 PM

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How would I give a decal a road lod?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 9:57 PM

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add roadlod in OB

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copy the plane into it

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set surface texture to data_f\surfaces\whatever pleases you

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Will that cause weird results with AI? I am only attempting to use a road lod to cut clutter underneath it and give it concrete sound

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 9:58 PM

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should not I think

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 9:59 PM

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bare with me, I am really fresh to OB. How do I add a road lod to it?

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and do I use my existing decal .p3d?

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 10:18 PM

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yes you open that decal.p3d you have

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i cant remember what the default layout of OB is these days

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📎 unknown.png

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but this is the lod list

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you right click on it

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to make new one

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and right click that and select properties to change it to roadway

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Awesome! Perfect. So I am suppose to have 2 LODs, now. The original and the new road LOD?

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And what exactly is the technical details of what I am doing, in simple terms? Just so I am a little more educated.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Im not sure what you mean?

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 10:41 PM

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well, I always assumed a LOD was "Load on Distance". A long distance low res version of a model. Am I incorrect in this statement?

polar fiber Mar 25, 2019, 10:42 PM

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It's Level of Detail

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 10:42 PM

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ah

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makes sense

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👍

woeful viper Mar 25, 2019, 11:32 PM

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LOD is also used (in arma wiki) for technical models in the p3d - the lower res versions of the visible model are "resolution LOD", the rest technical LOD of whatever kind (shadow etc) -> see pinned message links

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Right on, thank you for the information.

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Regarding adding a surface to a new road lod, how do I go about that? Any time I bring up the texture/rvmat menu with "E", it always edits both the original lod and the new road lod

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 11:51 PM

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that should not be possible

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did you copy paste the surface from lod 0 to the roadway lod

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are you sure you are changing betweent the lods?

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 11:52 PM

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You just click on the name of it, correct?

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To switch

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2019, 11:52 PM

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double click

wise heart Mar 25, 2019, 11:52 PM

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got it

frozen umbra Mar 26, 2019, 12:20 AM

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@wise heart its veeeery old tutorial, but it will help you understanding the basics of lods - https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=ofp:modeling:brsseb_lesson8

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Thanks, I will certainly give it a read. Get a better grasp of the basics for sure

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 12:39 AM

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So, I am attempting to pack some .p3ds after redoing the model.cfg and its getting stuck on the binarise part in PBO Pro

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https://pastebin.com/qgc2aKwg

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model.cfg for reference

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 2:39 AM

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@sturdy parcel Is this common?

vestal finch Mar 26, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Object builder's giving me some problems in regards to my topology

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When I export my FBX from 3ds max 2017 and import it into OB it triangulates the mesh and has some discrepancies as well

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https://imgur.com/x0OaLSA

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and screencap in OB
https://imgur.com/DaBLH3Z

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Does anyone know whats the issue?

sturdy parcel Mar 26, 2019, 6:12 AM

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@sturdy parcel Is this common?

if pboProject has given your model.cfg a green tick of health, it's unusual for bis binarise to trip over it. You can,. if you choose to for a test, remove the model.cfg. This causes no ill effect other than the animations in the result obviously won't work.

polar fiber Mar 26, 2019, 7:34 AM

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@vestal finch you should always be exporting triangulated meshes anyway.

vestal finch Mar 26, 2019, 8:00 AM

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@polar fiber Alright, I tried that but I still have the same issue in OB, where there are missing connecting lines unlike how it is in 3ds max

polar fiber Mar 26, 2019, 8:08 AM

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OB’s a bit crap like that. The edges might show different in different shading modes (wire, solid, DX, non-DX)

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So long as all edges are in the UVs, it is okay

vestal finch Mar 26, 2019, 9:57 AM

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I see. Back in 2017 when I was modding for arma fbx to OB never gave me weird glitches like that. I found by triangulating in OB () it fixes the problem, thanks for your advice ! 😃

agile zenith Mar 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

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How do i disable the co-pilot seat in a helicopter? There only seem to be options for ther driver, gunner and commander?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 10:52 AM

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You need to figure out witch seat is named copilot/ has isCopilot config parameter

agile zenith Mar 26, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Does anyone know why my model has a random ball of light in the middle? I took 3 pictures since it seems to always align to the middle for some reason. https://imgur.com/a/2j7Kysc Does it have something to do with the shadow lod maybe or is there something i'm missing here.

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Looks like specular reflection

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So it would be the sun

waxen quiver Mar 26, 2019, 1:18 PM

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your texture is extremely shiny, you need to lower the specular power and edit the smdi map to make it less shiny

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@sturdy parcel The model.cfg is whats causing it to hang up. Does anything look obviously wrong in there?

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Took it out and no issues

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Again, model.cfg for reference https://pastebin.com/qgc2aKwg

rough idol Mar 26, 2019, 3:01 PM

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@agile zenith it's awareness icon for nearby entities

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try unchecking "Vision Aid" in difficulty settings

agile zenith Mar 26, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Wow out of all things i did not expect it to be that.

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Thanks though, appreciate the response

steep helm Mar 26, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Hi, what is the config attribute to make a helicopter rotor spin slower when charged up without affecting the actual startup time? thanks

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

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@wise heart drop the default classes

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I got it

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

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👍

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Found a thread on getting rid of inheritances

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Last issue I am running into (hopefully): My model that I imported from A2 has an issue of moving like 1 meter when at a certain distance. But when you zoom in closer it moves back to the original spot. What is causing this?

bold flare Mar 26, 2019, 6:13 PM

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check that all your LOD's are actually in the center

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:13 PM

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is there a button to center them?

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or just manually and eyeball it

bold flare Mar 26, 2019, 6:14 PM

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usually they should be centered when you import.
Otherwise manually I suppose

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:14 PM

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ok

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if there is only one LOD, how is it changing?

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Even if it is off center?

bold flare Mar 26, 2019, 6:17 PM

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If it's only one LOD then it's not the type of error I'm thinking about

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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with one lod that should not be possible

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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as I zoom out, you can see the detail change and then it moves. Is there a way for a .p3d to not show all the lods?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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is it animated to move?

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:21 PM

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no, no movement. I even have the model .cfg removed at this point to make sure

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same thing with or without it

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:21 PM

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well it is possible ther could be overlapping first lods

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but then again PBOProject should catch those now

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does it have geometry lod?

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or is it just the res 0

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:23 PM

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just a body lod

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oh bloody hell

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I am looking at the panel to the left of lods

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there's like 7 different lods

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:25 PM

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xD

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xDDD

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🙈

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📎 unknown.png

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I wish I could share my neat layout

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I don't want a custom layout for OB, as that would suggest I am accepting future use of it

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lol

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 6:46 PM

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xD

sturdy parcel Mar 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@wise heart

skeletonInherit="default";
and
sectionsInherit="Default";

would have caused a continuous loop, since there is (in fact) no other code to inherit

that's a bug which pboProject doesn't detect. That will be fixed

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 8:17 PM

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yup, I figured that much after the fact as well.

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noob cfg editing on my end

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lol

sturdy parcel Mar 26, 2019, 8:18 PM

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noob coding on my part

wise heart Mar 26, 2019, 8:19 PM

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we might have different definitions of the word "noob"

agile zenith Mar 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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They said i could'n make anything more ridicilous then a flying umbrella

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They were wrong

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https://gyazo.com/275443892585ce2587ec6c00bc93dea6

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Based on leonardo da vinci's air screw xd

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Question though, obviously this model doesn't look very good when the rotor is spinning too fast. Is there a way to reduce the speed of the animation without reducing the mp/h of the vehicle?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2019, 8:54 PM

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there are parameters for max rotor speeds in the vehicles config

fervent steppe Mar 27, 2019, 12:19 AM

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anyone know why this is happening

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https://imgur.com/a/2bMVr64

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its a multimat..looks fine in buldozer and is messed up in game

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 5:36 AM

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for ironsights, am I limited to 10 different zeroing ranges? I cant get it to go beyond 10 sets. I am planning for 100-1200m

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 5:54 AM

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maxZeroing... gotcha 😂

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 6:46 AM

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@fervent steppe pastebin the rvmat for 👀

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@vestal finch who uses ironsight beyond 400m???

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 10:12 AM

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hey, i'm just tryina be authentic 😂

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 10:12 AM

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XD

fervent steppe Mar 27, 2019, 10:48 AM

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@stuck oyster I may have fixed it. I think it was a bad second uv. I corrected all but one and they are now working. If I still get issues when I get home tonight I'll pastebin the config so you guys can take a look. Thanks pal!

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 11:12 AM

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👌

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 11:20 AM

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tryina crunch with pboproject, what does this mean?

19:19:29: Extensions:
"</texheaders>"
rapify x64UnicodeVersion 1.79, Dll 7.16 "config.cpp"
Warning: rapWarning: missing file(s)*****
Warning: SAF Mod\saf_weapons\ultimax\config.cpp circa Line 64: saf_weapons\ultimax\mk3.p3d
Warning: SAF Mod\saf_weapons\ultimax\config.cpp circa Line 74: saf_weapons\ultimax\anim\Ultimax_Hand_Anim.rtm
Warning: SAF Mod\saf_weapons\ultimax\config.cpp circa Line 154: saf_weapons\ultimax\mk3.p3d
rapWarning: missing file(s)*****

rerun with -noisy option to see decode

kind lion Mar 27, 2019, 11:31 AM

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https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models?author=tapsiful how many of these models look familiar to you?

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the ch53e looks like a copy of the rocket/cup/rhs one

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like... the same model

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the hinds look very familiar too

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(in hindsight i should've probably put this in ip rights violations, oh well)

quick terrace Mar 27, 2019, 11:34 AM

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@vestal finch check the configs at specified lines - most likely missing "" marks or path is wrong

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 11:43 AM

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@quick terrace seems fine actually it builds in addon builder but was recommended to try pboproject due to a hand anim issue. Now im getting this warning msg from pboproj

quick terrace Mar 27, 2019, 11:44 AM

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pbo project is a lot more vocal than addon builder (which i never tried using btw)

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did you try with noisy option on?

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is the RTM binned?

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 11:45 AM

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yeah, im not sure what to make of it

quick terrace Mar 27, 2019, 11:46 AM

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you cannot rapify an rtm twice for instance

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so if that RTM is binned already, it will spit errors

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can you pastebin that config.cpp?

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also #arma3_config

vestal finch Mar 27, 2019, 11:51 AM

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yeah just checked, the rtm is not binned as its from me. I'll migrate over to #arma3_config

noble hatch Mar 27, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Hi all, Anyone here had successes with shadowVolumes for cargo?
I want my box to be as daark and dingy as it should be crammed in the back, not bright as day.

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 3:30 PM

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You may need properly set up AS texture in your rvmat for that. Afaik shadows should work for cargo

noble hatch Mar 27, 2019, 3:31 PM

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will take a look, thanks for the tip

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Use of proper shaderes is adviced

noble hatch Mar 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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anywhere I can go to learn more on them?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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DriverGetInAction or something like that

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Thank you, already found it. Just wasn't in the sample for whatever reason.

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 3:32 PM

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On shaderes? There's couple of wiki pages on them

noble hatch Mar 27, 2019, 3:33 PM

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good point, shoulda looked before asking

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Also the BI forums should have more about them

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Hey, does anyone know why my helicopter has a spare passenger seat even though i only defined 3 cargo positions? I have this property settransportSoldier = 3; Turret config: https://pastebin.com/xw9ANM3n And these are all my proxies https://gyazo.com/5cbbad99d2d76e0a22d7d444675bb302

rough idol Mar 27, 2019, 3:49 PM

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transportSoldier = 0@agile zenith ;

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Oh wow, i just assumed it was for cargo positions as well. Thanks mate

floral sable Mar 27, 2019, 5:38 PM

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What sort of regex does the Object Builder "mass rename" support? I'm trying to rename oldfolder -> newfolder but

oldfolder\(.*)

newfolder\\1

doesn't work

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 5:41 PM

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no regex

floral sable Mar 27, 2019, 5:41 PM

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is there a better way to do it?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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well you can open the p3d in notepad++ and run replace tool

floral sable Mar 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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is it safe to open in a text editor? cool

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thanks

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thanks, sed did it all in about a second, you saved me a lot of time : )

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2019, 5:46 PM

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👌

slate epoch Mar 27, 2019, 5:49 PM

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alone works there

floral sable Mar 27, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Yeah, I noticed that, that's why I hoped maybe more stuff did

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Can anyone link me some documentation on passenger seats without using cfgturrets if that's even possible?

median bough Mar 27, 2019, 7:36 PM

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FFV requires turret configuration

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If you don't need FFV seats, you can take a looke at vanilla vehicle configs. Should be in the arma 3 samples iirc

woeful viper Mar 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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yes car sample

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Is there a gunner equivalent to driverCanEject = 1; and cargoCanEject = 1;? And if not can someone tell me a way how i can make it so that gunners can eject?

rough idol Mar 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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canEject = 1 in turret cfg

agile zenith Mar 27, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Ty, finally finished it now.

sacred grail Mar 29, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Would it be more efficient to have a multimaterial mesh and a supershader mesh in one p3d, Or to have a multimaterial mesh that proxies in a supershader mesh?

quick terrace Mar 29, 2019, 7:27 PM

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both in the same .p3d

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obviously unless that supershader is actually furniture or alike

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that is shared between multiple buildings

sacred grail Mar 29, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Both will be in the same p3d yes, My question is more that I will have some small objects included. Should I add these to the p3d via proxy or just have them as super shader meshes?

polar fiber Mar 29, 2019, 8:56 PM

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If the same sub-meshes will be used on other structures in proximity too, then it's probably best to proxy them and take advantage of the instancing

sacred grail Mar 29, 2019, 8:56 PM

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Yes they are part of a kitbash

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and the object I am using them for will be placed around in groups of perhaps 10-20

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so in that case a proxy might be more viiable?

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Question, When I try to get my helmet model to scale down to arma 3 head size using the head model in arma sample.

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It won't do it. xD

quick terrace Mar 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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?

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@sacred grail yes

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Could I Dm the picture?

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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@knotty trout are you using Blender?

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Yes

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

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do you scale the object in object mode?

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:30 PM

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using "S"

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:30 PM

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yes but in object mode or edit mode

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as if you scale it in object mode you also have to apply the scale to the model

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Object

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mode

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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p3d export does not automatically apply object transformation

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so you will first have to set it to 1 1 1 scale

sacred grail Mar 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Ah okay thanks @quick terrace

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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ctrl + A

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apply rotation and scale

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also the objects origin point must be in the 0,0,0 coordinate

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so making edits is best done in the edit mode

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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So when I go into object builder, I import it set the master scale to 1 1 1?

sacred grail Mar 29, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Depends on the unit system you have set up in blender

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 10:52 PM

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no not in object builder

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in Blender

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Okay.. So how do I do that. xD

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 11:03 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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@knotty trout

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in object mode, and the object selected

knotty trout Mar 29, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Oh I did that.

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So once I click them do they apply automatically or.. hit enter?

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2019, 11:08 PM

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it should apply it automatically yes

vestal finch Mar 30, 2019, 3:28 AM

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Hey guys is there a write up on RHS hand anim switching on deployed bipods? Like on the pkp and m240

near osprey Mar 30, 2019, 12:28 PM

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anyone here uses 3Ds Max?

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if so what measurement unit do i use

bold flare Mar 30, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Whatever you want. Metric units.

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When you use FBX to import to Object Builder you can choose the scale to convert automatically. So any unit works fine

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I think meters might be 1to1 conversion, but I usually use cm

near osprey Mar 30, 2019, 12:30 PM

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okay thanks

rough idol Mar 30, 2019, 12:37 PM

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@vestal finch http://www.rhsmods.org/page/developers#deploy-hand-anim-change

vestal finch Mar 30, 2019, 12:38 PM

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@rough idol hey reyhard! It says [WIP] for me

rough idol Mar 30, 2019, 12:39 PM

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ahh, sorry

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will fix it later then, seems like I forgot to publish it...

vestal finch Mar 30, 2019, 12:39 PM

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haha no worries, by the way if I integrate my weapon to use it will I have to make RHS a dependency?

rough idol Mar 30, 2019, 12:40 PM

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yes, it will

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although it can be made optional too

vestal finch Mar 30, 2019, 12:41 PM

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noted, thanks!

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I'm trying to touch up an old model I have lying around. I don't get any shadows in the interior from sunlight cast through the windscreen. Where would I look to fix this?

woeful viper Mar 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#ShadowVolume

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 6:48 PM

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yeah, that's what I thought, but when I opened up the A3 sample car and looked at its shadow volume it was solid and didn't have a gap for the windows

woeful viper Mar 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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have a screen what you mean with your problem?

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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so is there a different shadow volume I should be looking at? should the viewcargo have a shadow lod too?

woeful viper Mar 30, 2019, 6:50 PM

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if not specified it uses default shadow lod

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 6:52 PM

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ah, ok, so there probably should be holes for the windows

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yeah, I just spotted it on another model, I guess the sample was misleading, thanks

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wait, the biki says that it must be "closed", does that mean it can't have holes in?

bold flare Mar 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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yes

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"watertight"

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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so I need to double up all of the current faces? I guess I need to 3D more. 😦

bold flare Mar 30, 2019, 7:15 PM

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double up?

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if you have a wall.

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it needs to have both sides

floral sable Mar 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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yeah. I'll have to think about it as it's a car

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probably easier to remake the LOD from scratch

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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it can be any shape and it can have holes

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but the mesh must not be open

woeful viper Mar 31, 2019, 1:10 AM

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selfshadowing doesnt work properly if it's not a proper convex mesh. Depends on how stuff is shaped if its necessary to make convex or if you get away with concave.

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 11:18 AM

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https://pastebin.com/yLERyPKR

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Could someone check out this model.cfg?

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Im getting the following error

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Cannot find class 'Default' in master config

bold flare Mar 31, 2019, 11:19 AM

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skeletonInherit="Vehicle"; Why inherit skeleton from something that doesn't have any skeleton/bones?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 11:20 AM

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class Vehicle : Default {};

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this is external class

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Imo best way to sort it tou would have just 1 cfgSkeleton class

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 11:22 AM

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This is exactly from the template model.cfg 😕

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 11:22 AM

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and the cfgModels default - vehicle -youcopter classes could be combined too

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have not tried to pack the sample but Its possible its not build with the extra check PboProject performs in mind

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 11:24 AM

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right so for now sectionsInherit=.... is what I should do

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 11:45 AM

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https://pastebin.com/9MpqSSgF

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all extern removed

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can't find class 'Default' in master.cfg
rapify failed. View->output (LLW_Apache)

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😭

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What is meaned by the master.cfg

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 11:49 AM

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remove all the class default, vehilce and helicopter classes

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and all the skeleton inherits

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adn combine the helicpter and AH skeltons

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 11:56 AM

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ok

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so basically you are saying we cannot inherrit anymore

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and every class must have it's values redefined

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 12:00 PM

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well how you have written it now it does not inherit anything

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and besides why would you need to inherity anything since you just have 1 usable skeleton anyway

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 12:01 PM

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BIS has written this lol

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but ok

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 12:01 PM

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BI has written a lot of things.

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 12:02 PM

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is there a propper place to find samples?

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good samples with corrects syntax and everything

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 12:02 PM

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probably not.

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and BI stuff works in their own workflow I guess

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 12:04 PM

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weird

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 12:05 PM

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also I may be wrong in many things.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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and also looks like the test heli packs fine

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I just dont do that kind of inheritance myself because it makes no sense to have 3+ classes that end up into 1 compiled class

tacit herald Mar 31, 2019, 12:09 PM

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ok

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 12:18 PM

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also probably I then missed what was wrong in your earlier inheritance

floral sable Mar 31, 2019, 1:59 PM

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@stuck oyster you've confused me now. Basically I have a cube and I want to delete some polygons from it to make a window into it

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do I need to somehow make a smaller cube within the cube and then cut holes in both of them and make a little "tunnel" between the two? or is just deleting some polygons from the first cube OK?

bold flare Mar 31, 2019, 2:04 PM

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you need to make a tube essentially

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with polys on the inside

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https://s.sqf.ovh/3dsmax_2019-03-31_16-09-12.png

quick terrace Mar 31, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@floral sable don't use O2 for modelling

buoyant condor Mar 31, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Any idea what proxy i need to use for passengers to be able to shoot out the back of a vehicle?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2019, 2:46 PM

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You need to set up a fire from vehicle turret and use those proxies I believe

floral sable Mar 31, 2019, 3:14 PM

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yeah, that's what I thought, thanks dedmen

buoyant condor Apr 1, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Can you guys link me to a custom proxy tutorial?

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well to be more accurate im currently making the different proxies for a 2 crewman tank and im doing the commander/gunner who can turn out of the back of the turret nd basically sits on the hatch. I need him to sit on that hatch when turned out and to be inside when turned in. I can think of 2 ways of doing it. First is with a custom proxy. Second one is using 2 proxies, but i dont know if there's a way of linking the 2 different proxies to the different commander/gunner states

rough idol Apr 1, 2019, 9:17 AM

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you cannot do 2 proxies for 1 crewman

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you can either create custom animation with 2 positions (which is not that hard if it's static animation) or do model.cfg transformations on proxy itself

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connect animation to hatch movement and i.e. translate proxy from position A to position B

floral sable Apr 1, 2019, 9:46 PM

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How can I add hidden selections to a proxy model?

I have a vehicle model that has proxies for, e.g, the wheels that I want to allow people to retexture. Adding a named selection directly to the proxy model and adding it to the sections in the model.cfg of the "mother" model doesn't seem to work - do I need to follow something like https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Setting_Textures_for_Wrecks ?

stuck oyster Apr 1, 2019, 9:56 PM

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yes that would be the way

floral sable Apr 1, 2019, 10:03 PM

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how would I actually go about retexturing it? how do I specify what texture to use? if I just give it a unique selection name, can I use it in the hiddenselections of the main class?

floral sable Apr 1, 2019, 10:21 PM

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ah, got it to work, thanks - added a class to model.cfg, added section to it and not the mummy model, followed that guide, then added a hiddenselection to the parent model as I would normally.

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thanks for the help ❤

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hmm, I apparently did add the section to the mother model in model.cfg, dunno if that was necessary

raw beacon Apr 2, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Ive been modelling a quad barrel AA gun, is there a way for arma to shoot out of more then one barrel? If so could someone point me to the proper documentation as i havnt found anything helpful

floral sable Apr 2, 2019, 12:28 PM

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On closer inspection, the UV mapping on the hidden selections on proxy models is all wrong. Is this a common problem? Is there some obvious solution? I've triple checked and I'm sure that I'm applying the right texture.

I made the selection in Oxygen by selecting all faces, pressing E, finding a face with the texture I want to replace, clicking twice on that face, clicking "filter by", then create selection, then making a named selection as usual. This procedure worked fine for making hidden selections on the "mother" model to which the proxies are attached.

agile zenith Apr 2, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Thanks to everyone in here that helped me with my first vehicles! Both vehicles ended up on the frontpage of the workshop lol. (Don't know if this channel is exclusively for questions but just wanted to say thanks)

hasty pendant Apr 2, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Hey all, im working on my first project,(weapon), followed a lot of hours of tutorials and researching, but there are alot of things still confusing to me. first try to import my model(was invisible), 2nd try(visible, but position and rotation of gun wrong) texture doesnt show. I am using blender for modeling. Is there a certain way to do the texturing? people talk about normals and specular maps and how they work with the rvmat file. nother thing i'm confused with is how to get the character to hold it correctly. Any help would be much appreciated.

sacred grail Apr 2, 2019, 7:15 PM

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So for your first project a weapon is probably too complex. Start simple, like really simple. Make something like a crate or barrel, even perhaps just a cube. Once you can get that in game properly configured then start advancing onto weapons etc...

hasty pendant Apr 2, 2019, 7:17 PM

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thanx for the reply @sacred grail, yes i did that with a normal pole shape, with a very basic config file linking the textures and all that.

sacred grail Apr 2, 2019, 7:17 PM

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As for rvmats, These are essentially files that hold the file locations for the appropriate texture maps (e.g. nohq (normal), smdi (specular), as (ambient occlusion)

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I use max so cannot help much with importing from blender, I believe there is a toolset for blender that can import into object builder. However just exporting as FBX should be fine. Make sure that you know your blender system scale units so you can import to obj building 1:1

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Also I think you sometimes need to flip the y axis

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weapons are relatively complex so I would very much suggest getting to grips with more basic props like crates and barrels and make sure you have a solid understanding of the core mechanics with creating objects for the game. If you really want to make a gun consider making a very simply low poly gun just to save yourself some time in the learning process.

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This is some good documentation on the various types of texture maps used in arma

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Texture_Map_Types

hasty pendant Apr 2, 2019, 7:31 PM

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def need to flip the y axis. but ill just rotate it correctly in blender before i export. As for the scaling, i have a template character from a tutorial source that i use to scale the weapon and seems to work well. I have the arma toolbox for blender installed and can export fine. Yes im trying to do things as basic as i can. the blender phase i can work on myself. for now im just trying to get the gun to be held properly. I used a sample files like config and somewhat manage to understand the language, managed to change things like changing ammo from mp5 to .338.

sacred grail Apr 2, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Have helped him with some stuff ^ . If anyone want to guide him with positioning and encoding the weapon feel free 😃

hasty pendant Apr 2, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Thanx a heap @sacred grail.

sacred grail Apr 2, 2019, 8:22 PM

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np

tacit herald Apr 2, 2019, 9:05 PM

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ok Im back on my helicopter model

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https://pastebin.com/HQEQ6D7R

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still getting this error

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can't find class 'Default' in master.cfg
rapify failed. View->output (LLW_Apache)

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hey I may have just found it

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disregard for now

hushed apex Apr 2, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I have a problem - model of glasses item is rendered 'outside' the car/behind the unit wearing it. When unit not in the vehicle - glasses item displays correctly, it happens only inside vehicle.
What can be a cause?

agile zenith Apr 3, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Ok i'm having a very very weird issue currently that is actually just restricting me from progressing my model. Every time i try to save my p3d it gives me a error. Even if i just open it and try to save it without having made changes. Does anyone know a fix or should i just make a new p3d? https://gyazo.com/bc10b459e9d7f31eabc87896bc7e22b6

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2019, 4:58 PM

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windows has the file locked somewhere

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either save with new name, delete old file and rename the new

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or figure out where it is stuck

agile zenith Apr 3, 2019, 4:59 PM

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That's weird, restarting it did not work but just copying the p3d in my C: drive worked..

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I'll figure out a temporary fix, thank you.

formal vapor Apr 3, 2019, 5:01 PM

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In your task manager find binarize.exe and end it

agile zenith Apr 3, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Is there a way to completely disable the "wheel turning" animation on a vehicle while keeping the functionality?

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2019, 9:47 PM

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you mean when wheel turns when a car moves forward? which vehicle? vanilla? custom?

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 8:49 AM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/222702-how-can-i-integrate-my-custom-a3-vehicle-into-the-game/ Can someone tell me if the strider model is in samples or otherwise available?
Also that's a Strider with a Gordon turret.. 99% sure that's not available..

jaunty leaf Apr 4, 2019, 8:52 AM

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I think he ripped it

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 8:54 AM

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The strider might be in A3 Samples right? but the Gordon is not I assume?

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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neither are

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some people make in game combinations by hiding parts of vehciles and mashing them together with attachto

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oh but now that I read that he has a model

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 9:03 AM

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He also posted a screenshot of the model in blender

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soo...

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 9:03 AM

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yah just saw that too 😑

slate epoch Apr 4, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Well I mean, same as here

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https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/b97snt/i_fear_no_man_but_that_thingit_scares_me/

r/arma - I fear no man, but that thing...it scares me

29 votes and 13 comments so far on Reddit

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right?

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Yuuup. Thanks

polar fiber Apr 4, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Simplified Gorgon was in the A2 ACR data pack @bold flare but no strider and this is the A3 version of the Gorgon’s turret so is deffo all ripped

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Already taken care of on all bases 😄
Launch codes have been put to use

polar fiber Apr 4, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Aye I thought I better say so though in case he presents one of the ported ACR pandurs as evidence that there are modified A3 vehicles on WS

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And that got accidentally nuked too

bold flare Apr 4, 2019, 11:21 AM

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He confirmed that he ripped them.
Can still read his replies on the reddit thread.
He's currently ascending to witten level.

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:00 PM

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@stuck oyster About my question from yesterday, the answer is my own modded vehicle.

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Well you just dont add the anything to the wheel selection @agile zenith

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and it wont turn

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Yeah but i want them to turn when driving forward, just not the turning to the side animation when pressing A or D to turn the vehicle

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:03 PM

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then no

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Not even a way to reduce the amount it turns?

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:03 PM

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not that I know of

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Ah that sucks

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:04 PM

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why do you want it so?

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I'll show you a screenshot and you'll understand

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1moment

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One of the wheels: https://gyazo.com/5e9656f65ce7dbce2b6cba8898014428

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So it doesn't really have a lot of space to turn. Just like the original design (It has a tiny bit of space to move the backwheels but not a lot)

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:09 PM

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oh wait so youre talking about steering

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not driving

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Yes, sorry if i was a bit unclear.

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:09 PM

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very. 😄 but thats alright

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steering you can set as you like

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Via the memory lod, config or?

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:11 PM

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model.cfg animation classes that animate your steering parts

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Thanks

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Is that wheel even cabable of steering turn?

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Prob not lol

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:15 PM

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It looks like its bolted down pretty solid

agile zenith Apr 4, 2019, 5:16 PM

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Blame leonardo da vinci

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@stuck oyster quick question, can import a .p3d directly in blender, keeping the skin/vertices weighting/

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:48 PM

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yes

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 5:49 PM

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via alwaren's toolbox?

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:51 PM

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yes indeed

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 5:55 PM

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@wise silo ^

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only works in 2.79, correct?

wise silo Apr 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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we need rig

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not skin data 😛

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hello @stuck oyster !

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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theres new version of it for 2.8

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yo @wise silo

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 5:56 PM

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nope, we need to be able to copy skin data, from existing mesh to a new mesh

wise silo Apr 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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well i could have done that in blender already

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thats posible don't worry

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but still you need to work it

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 5:57 PM

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the max and fbx files on our cloud is just that - the existing skin weights (there is no rig present)

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so i can copy paste that weights so animations behaves the same

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because these are different from the A3 ones

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if you do what i did and use the max files provided by BI

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there will be clippings between the vests / gear etc weighted with the old method and the new stuff

wise silo Apr 4, 2019, 6:00 PM

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as goat said alwaren's toolbox imports p3ds without any problems so with data transfer

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we can do same thing

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i misunderstood you obviously

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i did weight transfer many times before

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 6:02 PM

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no worries, got me thinking on my drive back from work

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about why you needed a rig

wise silo Apr 4, 2019, 6:03 PM

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cause usually at least in my experience projection gets you 80-90 along the way. rest of the things need to be done by hand

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we can try

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 6:23 PM

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yeah that's my experience as well

viral cradle Apr 4, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Having some kind of rig , in blender at least, would give you a few more options. As Fuxna mentioned, data transfer is very handy. Even more so if the topology is done with a source mesh in mind. But if it isn't, you could still get a good "base" weighting with DT, and refine it in weight paint mode. Or if you really want to, you can go vertex by vertex and assign weights precisely. It's flexible.

quick terrace Apr 4, 2019, 10:31 PM

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@viral cradle yeah cheers

white jay Apr 5, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Would it be hard to make it so that when someone comes in contact with geometry or a certain part of the geometry of your model, it kills them?

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 6:27 AM

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There are some contact event handlers that possibly could be used. Or look up how fire damages players.

shrewd jay Apr 5, 2019, 2:13 PM

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@quick terrace
only works in 2.79, correct?

There are two versions on GitHub, one for 2.7X (https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox/releases/tag/bf-1) and one for 2.80 and beyond (https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox/releases/tag/v3.0.2-alpha)

If you use Blender, make sure to install either of those... earlier versions had a problem with weights and could cause them to be messed up

quick terrace Apr 5, 2019, 2:15 PM

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@shrewd jay yeah man cheers, i am a max user i’m afraid, was asking for @wise silo, but it was also a bit of miss communication . i am personally waiting on 2.8 to go final before i dip my fingers deep in it

shrewd jay Apr 5, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Yeah 2.8 is still a bit rough around the edges... Usable for most stuff, but I also have to go back to 2.79 for some of the work.

quick terrace Apr 5, 2019, 2:19 PM

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it's ok, max is also rough around the edges, and that is 1.7k a year 😄 with special offer discount btw

shrewd jay Apr 5, 2019, 2:21 PM

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ROFL never seen MAX... I had been working with GMAX a few years ago, but Blender seemed to be a step up from that one, although I really wish Blender had the Editable Mesh modifier.

woeful viper Apr 5, 2019, 2:47 PM

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gmax had less than half of what max offers...

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iirc max 3.1 or something was equivalent to gmax or something. My first steps with modelling... fiddling with it for battlefield vietnam modding ^^

sacred grail Apr 5, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Never even heard of gmax before, Was it like some lightweight distribution of max then?

quick terrace Apr 5, 2019, 3:52 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmax

Gmax

Gmax is an application based on Autodesk's 3ds Max application used by professional computer graphics artists. 3ds Max is a comprehensive modeling, animation and rendering package with some secondary post-production and compositing features. Gmax is much more limited due to ...

buoyant condor Apr 5, 2019, 4:11 PM

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quick question about armor calculation. Does arma 3 calculate armor slopes. I E if a plate is 20mm and its sloped so it equals 40, do i need to put 40 or 20mm .rvmat in fire geometry?

formal vapor Apr 5, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Is gmax still around? Is it subscription based? Is it worth upgrading from 10?

cinder pivot Apr 5, 2019, 4:35 PM

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how can you make a custom bridge object have an icon on the map when baked into it? i.e placed with TB and exported to be part of the map

sacred grail Apr 5, 2019, 4:40 PM

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ah i see yeah, saw some very outdated looking tutorials on youtube for it 😄

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 4:54 PM

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@buoyant condor if you user solid armor rvmat it will calculate the thickness from the geometry shape

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and yes slope should work

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 7:40 PM

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I must have done something wrong in ObjBuilder 😱

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in game LOD 7 is shown

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 7:41 PM

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up close?

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 7:48 PM

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yeah

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cant post pictures here

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at all times lod7 is shown

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except when in as pilot/gunner

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 7:50 PM

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perhaps try deleting that lod and see what happens

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just make a backup first 😄

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and you can link pictures from imgur for example

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or send them to a friend in DM and link that

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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didnt try deleting that lod yet

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wanted to let you know when I get out of the vehicle, Arma crashes

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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that sounds bad

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check the rpt log if it indicates anything

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 7:59 PM

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removed LODs 7to4

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crash when placing in editor

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checking rpt

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Fault address: 601B69F9 00:601B69F9 Uninown Module

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 8:08 PM

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perhaps bad texture somewhere

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Ill just roll back to an old model

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Dep3d doesnt find any errors

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 8:14 PM

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did you save it in OB

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and not use the p3d export

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I did save it in OB

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bad texture?

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no didnt use the P3d export

rough idol Apr 5, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Hidden selection materials?

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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corrupted file or not converted right

tacit herald Apr 5, 2019, 8:17 PM

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I was working on some proxies at some point and accidentelly deleted LOD1

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then hit ctrZ

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Ill roll back to an old model. the proxy chanced I did was minor

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 4:16 PM

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hey yall, i can get my texture/rv mat loaded in object builder and buldozer doesnt start at all. Tried all the solutions i found sofar online but no luck, can anyone here maybe help?

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 4:18 PM

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:installing-steam-arma-3-tools
https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive
have you done these @hasty pendant

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 4:45 PM

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whoops, steam just went down in my country, once im back up ill go on. thank you @stuck oyster

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:04 PM

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@stuck oyster ok so did exactly what the links instructed and still no luck

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:05 PM

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does buldozer start without anything in OB?

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:05 PM

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no it doesnt

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:05 PM

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does it give any errors?

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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"External viewer: Unable to create viewer"

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wierd, it worked ok last week, but now...

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:07 PM

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how are you running OB?

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from ArmaTools?

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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I open arma tolls and run OB from there

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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😛 you did not read the PMC pages carefully

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they say dont use ArmaTools launcher

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:08 PM

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1 sec lol

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ok opened OB directly from install file. no luck

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Is it because i opened the toolbox? should I redo the process then?

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:53 PM

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I cant really say. If the tool setup is done like in the PMC guide stuff work 9,.5/10

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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daum, ok redid everything

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how do I set the new p drive to launch at start up?

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:56 PM

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the mapdisk.bat you made can be added to windows startup

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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pasting a shortcut of it in the start up folder?

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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that should work I think

hasty pendant Apr 6, 2019, 8:00 PM

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yep it works, least thats one thing lol

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well @stuck oyster thanx for replying 😃 ill run the arma3p again and try again tomorrow.

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2019, 8:08 PM

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make sure your buldozer path is correctly set up in OB after running A3P

hasty pendant Apr 7, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Tried it all no luck, there's just one difference, when i launch OB like they say it doesnt give me a licence to agree to, i think that means that the registry was still there? How can I remove everything and do a completely clean install? are there files in other locations that i should delete manually?

hasty pendant Apr 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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are we allowed to post screenshots here?

stuck oyster Apr 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Links yeah

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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has anyone else encountered an issue like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367019524563795968/562059219117801508/20190331184139_1.jpg

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it only seems to occur when using heads that use the new darker skin tones introduced in 1.90

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no changes have been made on our end

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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it seems to occur only with Tanoan Heads

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 3:27 AM

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that is in how shadow lod that is not triangulated/ hard edge / not being closed looks like

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and looks like it has everything to do with the weapon / mesh, not BI heads

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 3:37 AM

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why would it occur only with Tanoan heads then?

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 3:48 AM

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does that occur with these heads, no matter of the body used?

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 4:21 AM

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no only ours

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but every other head is fine

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i havent tried any other mods

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replacing both the hl selections in the res LOD and snatching the full shadow LOD from samples failed to resolve the issue

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im at a loss

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 4:26 AM

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is your SVlod closed, triangulated, sharped edged and devoid of UVW data?

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 4:29 AM

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yes, just double checked

polar fiber Apr 8, 2019, 6:51 AM

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Check the named selections in the shadow LOD to make sure there are no hiddenselections in that LOD including the injury and identity ones

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 9:09 AM

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hey can someone explain to me why do I need to triangulate an object? I see a lot of people doing it and i'm not sure why they do it

hasty pendant Apr 8, 2019, 9:37 AM

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I think its so that one face doesnt have more than 4 points in it. If you triangulate you can be sure that all faces in your model each have 3 verts

polar fiber Apr 8, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Depends. If you're seeing it on car models, it's probably because it's ripped from another game 😄

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But exporting .fbx from Max, Maya etc. tend to lose correct normals if you don't export the mesh triangulated

hasty pendant Apr 8, 2019, 9:43 AM

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I work on blender and keep every thing to quads till after i made all my maps then triangulate before exporting to ob

polar fiber Apr 8, 2019, 9:45 AM

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the model will be rendered in triangles by the game engine anyway (they all do - hence the first thing I mentioned about ripped models being triangulated). Quads are just easier to work with in modelling software

sacred grail Apr 8, 2019, 10:36 AM

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@hasty pendant The quad workflow is generally good practise. Helps with clean topology with good edge flow. Plus its near essential for animators and subdividing. And triangulating is just a click and won't change the result.

hasty pendant Apr 8, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Yes

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Hey guys do you happen to run into a tutorial that explains how to make doors actually work?

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 12:23 PM

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what part of your does not work?

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theres the"how to animate a model" and model.cfg pages on the wiki that got through how animations work

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Yeah i've seen page.. I was wondering if there is any simple guide where someone gives some tips or ideas about how to it properly

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 12:25 PM

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no

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those pages are pretty much as simple as it gets

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those + looking how things connect in the Arma3 samples

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Well I've textured the door and it doesn't seem to apply the texture in buldozer.. Any Idea why? I gave it different rvmat and co destination when I pressed E

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http://prntscr.com/n935bl

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Never mind the textures don't work at all for some reason

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:14 PM

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@hasty pendant @polar gyro
Always triangulate (if possible in a non destructive manner) before baking

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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@quick terrace Any idea why it doesn't load my texture? the UV is the same

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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@polar gyro what is your texture resolution?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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1024

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using substance painter

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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what is your texture path

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 PM

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isrproject_houses\data\isoc_door_01_co.paa

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no that's not there

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idk why it wrote it

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 PM

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k

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 PM

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the funny is that the house is exacly configured the same

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:16 PM

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check the mass texture renaming tool

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if it shows the path as red or black

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:17 PM

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how do I check it?

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:17 PM

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in the tools menu

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 PM

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http://prntscr.com/n93dc8

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it's white

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 PM

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a. dx and opengl works with triangles anyways
b. you can check if a tris connection is the correct way or not - i think i have explained this before
c. the face normals are corrected on triangulation

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 PM

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ok now it's red

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I remove the P:/

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as I should have done

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and it says red

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http://prntscr.com/n93e9g

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 PM

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is p: set as texture path in ob settings?

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:20 PM

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your object builder is not set up right I think

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👆

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 PM

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that way it won’t require explicit path (as with drive path as well)

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 PM

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I didn't do such a thing..

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I've made few objects without any problem

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i'm gonna try to set it up

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:21 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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something like this

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:22 PM

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how do I get to this menu?

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k found it

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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from now on I do hope you do some vigorious searching on your own before asking

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😛

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Yeah lol

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well

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I've done that but it doesn't seem to change anything

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:23 PM

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did you check the mass rename tool again?

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actually

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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yeah that's black now

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but the textures are not visible yet

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:24 PM

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hmm you have only 1 texture in hte list

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so are the walls on the same texture?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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I've opened the door p3d file, so I can focus only on this and then i'll try to apply that into the house

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:25 PM

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it doesn’t show in buldozer or viewport?

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 PM

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are you sure the texture is applied to the door?

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are you sure the door is unwrapped?

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 PM

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the files needs to be tga or png to get them to show in ob viewport via dx mode

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:26 PM

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yeah i've done it several times. and I see the uvmap of the door inside the object builder, and it's the same uvmap i've textured

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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can we get a screen of that

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uvs and bulldozer

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:27 PM

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yeah

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http://prntscr.com/n93kcs

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http://prntscr.com/n93kqe

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:29 PM

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if you check the filter list in the uv editor

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is your texture listed there

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and if you click it what does it show then

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:32 PM

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you mean that?:

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http://prntscr.com/n93mk5

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:32 PM

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yes

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if you click that texture it should show uvs of faces that are assigned to it

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:33 PM

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http://prntscr.com/n93n9m

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looks good

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:33 PM

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you could also try triangulating the mesh

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select all hit either / or \

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 PM

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triangulated it and it doesn't seem to do anything

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 PM

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did you relaunch buldozer?

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:34 PM

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weird

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 PM

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yeah

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 PM

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ahh you sure buldozer is set to show textures

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 PM

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if you create a cube in OB and assign the texture to it what happens?

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:35 PM

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maybe you deativated it by mistake

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@quick terrace http://prntscr.com/n93pl8|
looks ok

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 PM

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can you send me that model and texture in Pm?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Yeah

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@stuck oyster doesn't seem to load the texture as well

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:37 PM

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zip that p drive folder

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:38 PM

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try any other texture

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from a3 for example

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:38 PM

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K

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SEC

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sec

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:40 PM

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isrproject_houses\data\þþisoc_door_01_co.paa
special characters in the path?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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wtf

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ok

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it adds it even if it doesn't there

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:42 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/iwBSDl5.png?1

Imgur

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well, works for me when i removed these chars

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:43 PM

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http://prntscr.com/n93tzy

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I don't see them

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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select the mesh - press E

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check that path

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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isrproject_houses\data\isoc_door_01_co.paa

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seems ok

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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remove that path

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press ok

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copy paste it again

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not sure why that .p3d came with the path i posted above

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as soon as i removed the 2 special characters it worked

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never seen this before

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:46 PM

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it adds it when I select the texture through the folder icon

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and I see this only when I copy the address

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/ZmUtdoS.png?1

Imgur

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:47 PM

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I see this when I choose my texture:

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http://prntscr.com/n93wu0

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and when I copy this exact line I get this:
isrproject_houses\data\þþisoc_door_01_co.paa

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i'm restarting my computer

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maybe that's the answer

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@quick terrace still the same

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even when I use the one you sent me

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this is next level FUBAR shit

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 PM

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no idea man, as i shown, works on my end just fine

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Yeah I know

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 PM

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i suggest a full reinstall of A3 tools tbh

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:53 PM

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@polar gyro do you have some other than english windows?

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might be a localisation issue

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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do you have some other language as native other than EN?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Hebrew

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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ninjaed

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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its likely related to that

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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you have hebrew selected when doing A3 work?

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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For the record that not a letter in hebrew

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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can you switch to EN

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Nope

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everything is english

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 1:55 PM

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that's a symbol (or 2 in fact)

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not a hebrew letter, i know, still

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 1:56 PM

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i'm reinstalling arma 3 tools

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maybe that will do something

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maybe the folder is fucked up

quick terrace Apr 8, 2019, 2:01 PM

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i personally haven't seen this before

polar gyro Apr 8, 2019, 2:02 PM

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ok

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I renamed the texure name

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to exacly the same name

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and it fixed it

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idk how and why and honestly I don't care

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thank god

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and thanks to you too for helping me out.. again 😄

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Question does anyone would know why my helmet would be between my crouch ingame?

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Currently trying to get a helmet ingame.

jaunty leaf Apr 8, 2019, 3:45 PM

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do you have a properly written model.cfg?

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Yeah

jaunty leaf Apr 8, 2019, 3:45 PM

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also does the helmet have the head selection set in the p3d

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yes

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 3:51 PM

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is properly written model.cfg the kind where the cfgmodels class for your item is named exactly the same as the p3d?

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and is the head selection the same as in the skeleton

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head vs Head

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and is teh skeleton same as in the same arma3 characters?

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I am using OPF2 arma man skeleton model.cfg

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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how about the other questions

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I believe so.

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 4:04 PM

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perhaps you can drop the model.cfg into pastebin?

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and screenshot the named selections list in OB

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:06 PM

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https://pastebin.com/rSVcfk0c

https://gyazo.com/2bfd589f17c1d9aa6dda7e45e283ab7c

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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and whats the name of the .p3d?

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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19th_EchoMod

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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    class Default
    {
        sectionsInherit="";
        sections[]={head vs Head};
        skeletonName="";
    };```

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why does the sections say this?

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Good question I don't know.

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https://tenor.com/view/awkward-black-kid-gif-3535805

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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do you have these?

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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LODNoshadow

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Is what I have

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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then look into the headgear example and fix what you are missing

knotty trout Apr 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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thanks.

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:23 PM

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hi guys. I keep getting these errors:

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21:17:20 In Vehicle: whwalkers\warhound\warhound_mp_pbg.p3d missing gunner get in direction point

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event though I am having them in the mem lod

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I dont like it when the logs are spammed. Any idea wy this happens?

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 7:27 PM

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perhaps delete and redo them?

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and make sure the names are same

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:41 PM

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is it a problem that I have multiple? I have 3 of each

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to be able to get in from more than one side

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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multpile get in poins?

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how are those configured?

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I only have these
memoryPointsGetInGunner = "pos gunner";
memoryPointsGetInGunnerDir = "pos gunner dir";

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but I have one on each side of the entry point so you can get in from any direction

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it works an all.. I just dont like all that logging

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 7:49 PM

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try single "pos gunner dir" mem point

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:50 PM

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ah that makes sense when I think about it 😄

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dir can be in the center at the hatch.

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thanks

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 7:51 PM

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btw: there is also possibility to use named selection for get in actions

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:51 PM

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oh really? thats news to me

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 7:52 PM

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like i.e. you have component "door" in geometry lod and this can be defined in config as get in selection

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:52 PM

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so that will leave the "open door" action available from all angles as long as you're close enough?

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 7:53 PM

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sort of, it's same tech as for door interactions

timber cobalt Apr 8, 2019, 7:56 PM

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ok

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 8:02 PM

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ohh @rough idol thats great news!

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 8:03 PM

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although now Im not sure if it was implemented in the end 😛

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 8:03 PM

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😮

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you tease

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 8:05 PM

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getInGunnerActionNamedSel
getInCommanderActionNamedSel
getInCargoActionNamedSel
getInTurretActionNamedSel
getInUnitActionNamedSel```

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turret implementation is missing so you can only have that gunner/commander thing defined in main level

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it should be working same way as actionNamedSel for UserActions

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 8:11 PM

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how does it connect to gunner and commander seats?

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by the name?

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since both are basically turrets

rough idol Apr 8, 2019, 8:14 PM

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in same way as old 2d editor was determining gunner and commander

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those params are in game for like 2 years

stuck oyster Apr 8, 2019, 8:22 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I guess nobody wrote them down anywhere 😄

plain jackal Apr 8, 2019, 8:36 PM

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The named selections fixed it, thank you @polar fiber

woeful viper Apr 8, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@stuck oyster most likely
primaryGunner = 1
primaryObserver=1

vast tulip Apr 9, 2019, 7:17 AM

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Hello, are there any tutorials or sites that document setting up LODs and shadows for custom objects?

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 8:20 AM

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there are samples for this reasons

vast tulip Apr 9, 2019, 8:21 AM

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No like, creating them, from stratch in blender

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 9:56 AM

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quick question:
i've seen this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Xa4y_4PsM
and in this video the guy shows how he assign vertex group names for certain vertices - inside Blender.
I guess there is a way to do this thing inside object builder, does anyone know how? i'm not sure what it is and apparently nobody talks about that.

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is it the component name?

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 9:59 AM

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not gonna watch that video just to get what you are trying to do

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so, what are you trying to do

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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animate a door

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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create a new named selections?

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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I understood that I need to make two vertices to be an axis

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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yes, in your mem lod

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:00 AM

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how do I assign it as an axis? and how do I assign which components will move?

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just create a mem lod and put those two vertices?

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I need to name them.. my question is how

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do I need to name the component?

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 10:02 AM

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select the vertices, go to your name selection panel, create a new named selection

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:04 AM

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http://prntscr.com/n9i0iz like that?

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 10:04 AM

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yeah

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Alright

quick terrace Apr 9, 2019, 10:05 AM

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btw, you only need components into the geo lod

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in visual lods, you only need proper named selections

polar gyro Apr 9, 2019, 10:05 AM

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oh really?