#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 118

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:36 PM

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so a hat

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you use in a campaign?

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in any case

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a hat needs a model

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that is made in <insert your choice of 3D modeling software>

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Blender is free for example

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:37 PM

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a campaign hat, its a different name for a drill sgt hat

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I have blender and photoshop and like god knows what else

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:37 PM

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aa

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well what I was explaining works for any hat 😄

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so blender ok

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:38 PM

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yeah I got blender

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:38 PM

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you need to make a model of course and texturing it would also be good. For general Blender use there are numerous tutorials on varying topics on internet

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then that model needs to be transferred to Arma format (P3D)

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Id suggest FHQ Blender toolbox for that (Blender addon)

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it exports directly to P3D

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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yeah im basically new to anything modeling wise, its just the sgts in my unit were bugging me about it

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since our old mod a friend made for us broke like a week ago

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:39 PM

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it could very well be simple enough project to start with

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modeling I mean

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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I mean it sounds simple

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to make a drill sergeant hat

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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the Arma 3 Samples have a example too

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for what it needs Arma wise

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model.cfg example and config.cpp example

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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^ that sounds hard

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:40 PM

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not really

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with the examples you got to change a few lines to fit them for your use

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which is pretty nice for a start

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Also you will want to get the most easy to use tools and set up the development environment right the easy way.

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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i just didn't know if there were other programs I needed

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besides blender

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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the 2 first links + the buldozer one are the most usful for you

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modeling wise Blender is enough

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:42 PM

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texturing?

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just use photoshop?

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:43 PM

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that can be enough yes

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there are of course numerous different programs that can make it easier and faster

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and you can do some texturing even in Blender

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well a lot

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but more advanced texturing is well advanced techniques

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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yeah i don't see myself doing advanced things

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until I get comfortable with this

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:44 PM

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not yet 😄 got to start simple

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ye

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:45 PM

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I started basic with c++ and stuff and managed to make some neat stuff with that

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but I got bored with that

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and now wanna do something with modeling and just make cool stuff

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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👍

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thats great!

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:46 PM

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yeah I decided to keep it simple by doing that hat that I mentioned

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because it sounds simpl

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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it does

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its not as simple as a barrel or a box

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because fabric can be hard to make look good

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but its also a challenging project

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:47 PM

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surprisingly not that many mods have the hat though, thats why I wanted to make it

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and the ones that do are a bit broken too

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:48 PM

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yeah no if its useful to you then its great

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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yeah its definitely something I want (for the full metal jacket jokes) and just something to have while our unit does boot camp and stuff for new privates and recruits

stuck oyster Jul 15, 2018, 9:49 PM

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👌

white jay Jul 15, 2018, 9:50 PM

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I'll definitely start that today, still getting my new computer sorted out.

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:24 PM

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Could anyone tell me like the perfect door height to width combination? I dont want the door to look fat, nor oversized, is there any height-width combination that balances it out very realisticly?

stuck oyster Jul 16, 2018, 4:26 PM

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what kind of a door?

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front door? interior room door?

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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front

woeful viper Jul 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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google standard size of door...

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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and interior, both should be the same

stuck oyster Jul 16, 2018, 4:27 PM

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well irl they rarely are

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:28 PM

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would the standard real life door size work though?

stuck oyster Jul 16, 2018, 4:28 PM

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but depends really on what you are building

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:28 PM

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just a house

stuck oyster Jul 16, 2018, 4:29 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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from Arma sample house

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front door

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looks like the interior door is the same size in the sample

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wich of course is just fine

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 4:56 PM

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that's a high door holy shit

stuck oyster Jul 16, 2018, 4:59 PM

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2.42m?

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not really

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📎 unknown.png

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just a bit taller than irl door

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but it is so to make sure the arma character can pass through it

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 5:09 PM

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allrighty, thanks

waxen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 5:40 PM

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I usually make myndoor height 2.1 metres

foggy finch Jul 16, 2018, 7:03 PM

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@fallen quiver this thread might be what you looking for - https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/201408-info-infantry-metrics/?tab=comments#comment-3136668

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you could also load the samples character into your scene if you want a visual aid.

fallen quiver Jul 16, 2018, 7:27 PM

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Appreciate it

halcyon wren Jul 16, 2018, 8:55 PM

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All my door openings for my current project are 1100mm wide and 2200mm high

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Depending on doorframe and door this goes down by 8-10cm

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https://i.imgur.com/rzEn8el.png
Thats how they look in usage.

Imgur

quick terrace Jul 16, 2018, 9:00 PM

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that ^

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the average EU doors are 2100 x 900mm (HxW)

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always add a minimum of 100mm to the human size for arma

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i would say the minimum is 2100x1000mm for arma use

sturdy parcel Jul 16, 2018, 9:39 PM

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as a side-note: the human frame in arma was increased in size versus ofp. This meant that buildings and structures used directly from ofp for arma1 were too small for the human to fit thru.

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for cup/cwr1,2 those buildings had to be re-modelled.

echo rain Jul 16, 2018, 9:51 PM

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@halcyon wren that looks grreat

quick terrace Jul 16, 2018, 11:05 PM

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but i see the seams of that brick texture 🙃

hidden bronze Jul 17, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Why do we still not have the kiowa? Heavy WIP
https://i.imgur.com/wFIEYLi.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TRwAtfL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/inBSImb.jpg

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Hopefully we can avoid it not being finished like all the other ones

agile flint Jul 17, 2018, 9:18 AM

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No one has made one thats why. We have lots of WIPs, I think even Pufu has a semi modelled Kiowa somewhere

foggy finch Jul 17, 2018, 9:35 AM

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its his secret toy, he said so a few days ago

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😂

woeful viper Jul 17, 2018, 5:27 PM

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maybe they all finished them, but they are keeping them all for their own fun.

quick terrace Jul 17, 2018, 8:52 PM

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@agile flint i actually have it 99% modeled already (HP and LP meshes). i always find it difficult when i open that file to find out what that 1% rest was

halcyon wren Jul 17, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Obviously that 1% is 100% of the remainder...

quick terrace Jul 17, 2018, 8:55 PM

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😃 yeah

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well good luck with it

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@hidden bronze ^

hidden bronze Jul 17, 2018, 8:59 PM

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It's all in the texturers hands right now. It'll be my communities first release of an aircraft from scratch in arma, so we'll see haha. The pylon configs are already giving me a headache. 🤤

quick terrace Jul 17, 2018, 9:00 PM

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so that mesh is considered done from a modelling perspective?

eternal bloom Jul 17, 2018, 9:32 PM

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@fallen quiver https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Soldier_model_proportions

fallen quiver Jul 17, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Thanks people

woeful viper Jul 17, 2018, 9:44 PM

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outdated

eternal bloom Jul 17, 2018, 9:45 PM

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i also made these helpers a while ago if you're interesed https://i.imgur.com/J3ryeCj.jpg

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door size is based on typical Altis house and there are all "best" heights for adjusted positions

sturdy parcel Jul 17, 2018, 10:13 PM

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i'm interested and that url is helpful to everyone.

eternal bloom Jul 18, 2018, 6:14 AM

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@sturdy parcel https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Qa2g04jOkp5ZF-62s1nssgj9h8TvFIPg/view?usp=sharing

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it includes a mod with the helper ready to be used

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the object is named "mesures de bâtiments" which stands for building metrics in french...

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i made this in december 2016 so i hope it's still up to date

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 6:47 AM

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@woeful viper send me updated text/images and I'll put it in ^^

sturdy parcel Jul 18, 2018, 8:26 AM

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the object is named "mesures de bâtiments"
mes parents habite en territoire francais. Je comprendre un peu. 😎 Merci.

woeful viper Jul 18, 2018, 12:04 PM

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@bold flare https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Geometry links to https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/201408-info-infantry-metrics/

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and the lod page is pinned in here

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Boring. Fixed 😄

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Can someone help me out with a problem? I made a 3D Model and Textured it with Substance Painter, it gave me a bunch of different texture maps: https://imgur.com/a/Uexatzc
Ingame it takes the normal map as color map and doesnt care about the rest. It's the first time I made an rvmat and I really couldn't understand a whole lot about them.
Rvmat:

ambient[] = {1,1,1,1};
diffuse[] = {1,1,1,1};
forcedDiffuse[] = {0,0,0,0};
emmisive[] = {0,0,0,1};
specular[] = {0.015,0.015,0.015,1.0};
specularPower = 50;
PixelShaderID = "Super";
VertexShaderID = "Super";
class Stage1
{
    texture="kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_co.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={1,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,1};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};

class Stage2
{
    texture="kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_nohq.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={1,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,1};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};

class Stage3
{
    texture="kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_ao.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={1,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,1};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};

class Stage4
{
    texture="kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_smdi.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={1,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,1};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Stage1 is normal. Not color. Stage2 is detail map.
https://gist.github.com/dedmen/90691e56c2dd77bc152ce0a48caf47ba#file-arma-shaders-yaml-L191-L197
Here's a list of the stages

quick terrace Jul 18, 2018, 1:05 PM

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have a look over supershader RVMAT

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what you have there is completly wrong

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader

Super shader

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:06 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader Here. More info

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Aww :/

quick terrace Jul 18, 2018, 1:06 PM

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nin-ja 😃

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 1:06 PM

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ohhh, that makes more sense. I thought the stages are just to count the textures and It would recognise the ending of the file... Thanks to both of you 😃

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Actually the color is Stage0. But... Well. I never tried putting Stage0 into a rvmat. But I'd guess that doesn't work

quick terrace Jul 18, 2018, 1:07 PM

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also you NEED to have the entire thing written down, all the stages, even if not used

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Thanks

foggy finch Jul 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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@cyan heart _ao should be _as otherwise texture conversion to paa will fudge

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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where can I get the default values for the other stages from?

foggy finch Jul 18, 2018, 1:10 PM

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a3/data_f/default_super.rvmat has them

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:11 PM

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^ Should probably be added to the Super wiki page. It has most defaults but not all in their example..
Can you PM me that file?

foggy finch Jul 18, 2018, 1:11 PM

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yep sent

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:15 PM

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Thanks. Added them to the Super Shader wiki page

stuck oyster Jul 18, 2018, 1:15 PM

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👌

halcyon wren Jul 18, 2018, 1:45 PM

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Stage0 does work. 😃

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

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🙈 I actually didn't even want to know 😄 Now my brain has one more Arma weirdness inside it :/

halcyon wren Jul 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

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But its super logical, nothing wierd about it. 😄

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People who enjoyed this fact also enjoyed:
Did you know that Autocenter comes with three distinct states? On, Off and Undefined.
Rumors of engine programmers also persist saying that autocenter=-1 is valid.

stuck oyster Jul 18, 2018, 1:51 PM

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what could -1 even do xDD

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or the undefined

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 1:52 PM

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It will invert the model inside out. So that the center is actually outside of the model /s

stuck oyster Jul 18, 2018, 1:52 PM

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ah that makes sense

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thanks

white jay Jul 18, 2018, 2:01 PM

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But its super logical, nothing wierd about it. - triggggggert 🙃

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:11 PM

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I have another problem, I made a super awesome cheetah pattern texture for my object, I wanted to use hiddenselection because I have multiple textures now, but the part I wanted to retexture is now invisible :(
config.cpp:

class CfgVehicles 
{    
    class Static;
    class kka3_portable_blitzer_F : Static 
    {
        scope = 2;
        model = "\kka3_portable_blitzer\kka3_portable_blitzer.p3d";
        displayName = "Blitzer (Weiss)";
        faction = "Empty";
        vehicleClass = "Small_items";
        hiddenSelections[]={"blitzer"};
        hiddenSelectionTextures[] = {"\kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_co.paa"};
    };
    class ka3_portable_blitzer_grau_F: kka3_portable_blitzer_F
    {
        scope = 2;
        displayName = "Blitzer (Grau)";
        hiddenSelections[]={"blitzer"};
        hiddenSelectionTextures[] = {"\kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_blk_co.paa"};
    };
    class ka3_portable_blitzer_speedo_F: kka3_portable_blitzer_F
    {
        scope = 2;
        displayName = "Blitzer (Stealth)";
        hiddenSelections[]={"blitzer"};
        hiddenSelectionTextures[] = {"\kka3_portable_blitzer\data\kka3_blitzer_speedo_co.paa"};
    };
};```
model.cfg:

class CfgModels
{
class Default
{
sectionsInherit = "";
sections[] = {};
skeletonName = "";
};
class kka3_portable_blitzer: Default
{
sections[]=
{
"blitzer"
};
};
};```

I do have a selection inside the p3d called "blitzer"

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Did you check your RPT for any errors with loading that texture?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:13 PM

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Yea, neither MikeroTools nor Addon Builder give me any errors

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:14 PM

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Yeah.. They don't if that file is corrupted or something

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check rpt ^^

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:14 PM

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I used the texture files without hiddenselection (manually in O2) and they work

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So i guess it has to be my setup of hidden selections, do they work for the class "static" ?

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:15 PM

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Should work yeah.
Did you check RPT yet?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:15 PM

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one sec

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16:10:16: Warning: kka3_portable_blitzer\kka3_portable_blitzer.p3d:1 Section without material is in shape with ST coordinates

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What does that mean?

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Did you leave the material empty inside the model on that selection?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:17 PM

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no

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I assigned a texture and Material to the selection

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Do I have to remove them?

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:18 PM

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No. I don't know that message. But I thought maybe it's just the without material part

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:19 PM

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There is a selection without material, but it doesnt need a material and it shows up perfetly ingame.

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Pkey that message literally just says you have a section without material in LOD :1 Don't know what a "ST" is. Probably doesn't matter.
Any more errors? I would expect something with the texture path.
Did you confirm that your configs look correct in the ingame config viewer?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:21 PM

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Haven't check for the config viewer, one sec.

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:23 PM

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My idea is maybe remove the leading \ in the hiddenSelectionTextures path. Can't look at my stuff right now on how I did it

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Alright, I'll try

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There seems to be something wrong in the Config Viewer, HiddenSelectionTextures is defined twice, once without a path and once with my path

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the \ didnt change anything

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Sure that they are the same?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:30 PM

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one sec

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Not maybe hiddenSelectionTextures vs hiddenSelectionsTextures ?

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:30 PM

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That should be the issue

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I'm testing now

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Yea got it, thanks for your help. Sometimes it's the easiest things...

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:41 PM

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I can see the substance painter brush in there 😄 (In the screenshot in the deleted message)

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:46 PM

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Lol really?

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:47 PM

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Yeah. I used that same brush on one of my projects too. The caution one 😄

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 2:47 PM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/941700382297961130/E1AA5F7D984626768098B7B22339CD31F0DC1AD1/

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Ahhhh 😄

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 2:50 PM

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https://dedmen.artstation.com/projects/anmEz There. On the backside (Only visible in the sketchfab thingy)
And yeah.. I know.. Orientation is broken. Reimported the model into painter after changing the UV. And it flipped things around and I couldn't be bothered to fix it

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Damn, that looks good👌I Need to learn quite some stuff in Substance...

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Don't call my work good 🔨 It's bad!

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Lol

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 3:03 PM

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I guess as a maker you'll always find bad parts of things you made ._.

cyan heart Jul 18, 2018, 3:04 PM

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At least better than mine, I haven't made alot of models, but when comparing my first and latest, you can see a great increase of quality :)

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Same for me.
https://dedmen.artstation.com/projects/Y1LvY First thing to make it into Arma.
https://dedmen.artstation.com/projects/qgDvy latest thing.

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Veresion 2 🤦 duh

sturdy parcel Jul 18, 2018, 7:06 PM

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Can't remember of this was raised in terrain makers or here, but here is more appropriate...

I can confirm that p3d's and wrps in DaySA use a (slightly) different file format with new tweaks. Although i can decode them they are not worth pursuing further because, for god knows what reason, the version values are the same as for Arma. This makes them impossible to determine. which is what.

foggy finch Jul 18, 2018, 7:07 PM

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was terrain mikero 😃

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but yeah more relevant to here i guess

sturdy parcel Jul 18, 2018, 7:08 PM

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thank you. ch+ is well covered and translation is already discussed there.

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vbs had the brains to add 1000 to all file format values so a distinction could be made, but I guess the days devs aren't paid enough to think.

foggy finch Jul 18, 2018, 7:17 PM

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thanks for your time investigating them, sheds some light as to why we cant inspect the binned files with eliteness etc,. i was using that to keep tabs on any interesting stuff they added to dayz

sturdy parcel Jul 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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well there'd have to be a demand and interest in making models and maps for dayz before i pursued it further. Bis seem to be thier own worst enemy, locking out a range of tools (official or otherwise) that would or should help them.

bold flare Jul 18, 2018, 7:27 PM

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maybe they'll change that when DayZ really goes into beta. Or on release.. or something. One can hope

supple tartan Jul 18, 2018, 9:54 PM

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hello, im new to modding in general. so i at first started to create a character for arma then i ran into some difficulty's and me being low on time. is there a way for me to snag armas default soldiers for refference and adjustments so i can recycle some of my characters clothing and just make it as a gear set?

quick terrace Jul 18, 2018, 9:54 PM

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yes

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you have A3 character sample in the samples folder (you'll need to download the samples first off steam)

vernal lynx Jul 18, 2018, 9:55 PM

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@bold flare Oh I get your comment on my twitch channel earlier now 😄

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I like your wolf tho haha

supple tartan Jul 18, 2018, 9:57 PM

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@quick terrace off of workshop or?

stuck oyster Jul 18, 2018, 9:58 PM

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steam library - tools

polar fiber Jul 18, 2018, 9:58 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/390500/Arma_3_Samples/

stuck oyster Jul 18, 2018, 9:58 PM

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there you go

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also there is a TemplateRTM folder in there with a uniform model in the "male.p3d"

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though using it is risky

quick terrace Jul 18, 2018, 10:01 PM

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best bet is too get the .fbx or the .p3d from \SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01\

wraith girder Jul 19, 2018, 2:08 PM

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hey, i've got this kit bag i want to use in arma, i'm new to arma modding so i'm going to be a bit slow, i have the model (in fbx), i've used a pbr workflow for the textures

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i know arma uses a different workflow, and looking at their textures i can't make senese of them

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i guess my question is what's the equivilent of roughness and metalic maps for arma

woeful viper Jul 19, 2018, 2:13 PM

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arma uses old legacy workflow of non-pbr with specular and gloss maps

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/RVMAT_basics

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going from pbr to arma is tricky because you can't cover the full range of specularity in pbr with one texture and material. If you have glass (zero roughness) and dry dust (max roughness) in pbr you have to settle for a compromise there - it will be either too shiny for the rough areas, or not shiny enough for the smooth areas

wraith girder Jul 19, 2018, 2:27 PM

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@woeful viper Thanks! i'll take a look at this

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Can someone tell me how to change the particle effects when I shoot my model from sand to something else?

bold flare Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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put a material onto the geo/firegeo LOD

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you need a surface rvmat. You can look in Arma 3 Samples house sample for an example

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 3:44 PM

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I do have a glass rvmat in my fire geo

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Still Sand particles

stuck oyster Jul 19, 2018, 3:45 PM

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P:\a3\data_f\penetration

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Yea I have the glass rvmat from this path. Lemme double check

stuck oyster Jul 19, 2018, 3:48 PM

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in everything in fire geo?

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 3:50 PM

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https://imgur.com/Jtf0Wff

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nvm

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I just saw it......

stuck oyster Jul 19, 2018, 3:51 PM

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teehee

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 3:51 PM

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I was looking at it for 20 minutes straight and didn't see anything. Then opened the link I just sent to make sure the link works. And boom, I see it instantly

stuck oyster Jul 19, 2018, 3:51 PM

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😄

bleak tangle Jul 19, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Are you packing with Addon Builder? pboProject would have told you about that error while packing

stuck oyster Jul 19, 2018, 5:27 PM

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@halcyon wren since you are an expert in foliage modeling in Arma would you consider 4k tree crown/branch texture horrible idea? I got a fairly large "tree" that will have some leaf like elements that could benefit from the extra pixel detail and Im thinking of adding a bunch of smaller plant/vine kind of things with polyplanes on the trunk of it to blend them better on their surroundings which would also benefit from the higher resolution. The same texture can be shared with all the variants of the tree too.

halcyon wren Jul 19, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Mine are all at 2k and its already incredibly detailed. 4k should be no issue.

vapid nexus Jul 19, 2018, 5:35 PM

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do i need to write autocenter 0 in just the geomentry lod or in memory also ?

quick terrace Jul 19, 2018, 5:46 PM

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just geo

vapid nexus Jul 19, 2018, 5:48 PM

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ok thanks

woeful viper Jul 19, 2018, 6:08 PM

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hm makes me wonder... achilles heel of arma rendering seems to be alpha blending (esp. when it covers large parts of the screen - very noticeable with muzzle flash effects). Lots of grass and trees is more taxing than polygons. No idea if if blending alphas with higher resolution takes more processing power, but it would make sense to me.

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:25 PM

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@stuck oyster just wondering why is using TemplateRTM folder risky?

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https://gyazo.com/3727361c3063262bdde0439075ac33ab yea this is aparently what i get when importing p3d files into blender, anyone got a clue as to why this is happening?

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 6:43 PM

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@supple tartan whats the issue? You mean those large triangles?

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:44 PM

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@cyan heart yea idk what are those for nor why are there at all

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never done modding in general, and i just want to recycle some of my stuff from a character which i wanna turn into a gear set

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 6:45 PM

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Those are proxies. Basically they are linked to other p3d's. So they have a path to them which loads ie the head etc to the model, without needing to include them in every single character model. Also the head model will be placed on the character model depending on what head you select later on ingame, so this has to work that way.

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When you open the p3d and have a look at those triangles you can see the path to what p3d's they are referring.

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:48 PM

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allright i do also see multiple layers of this template

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 6:48 PM

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BlackShadow - Today at 2:44 PM
i just want to recycle some of my stuff from a character which i wanna turn into a gear set

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 6:49 PM

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@supple tartan you can delete them for now and later on use the template in the samples and just paste your character in. You may have to delete a few parts like legs/foots/hands depending on if you have your own in your model. This way the proxies will be pasted as well, so you don't have to care about them.

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:49 PM

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@pure whale yea grammar warning, not english

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@cyan heart hmm allright, i was just thinking of taking the clothes of my character and just adding a arma 3 soldier and pasting the clothes onto him

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 6:52 PM

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have you ever done rigging before?

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 6:52 PM

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👆

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As Mike said, there's more to it than just pasting. Naming all your stuff accordingly (rigging) and weighting it can be pain in the ass....

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 6:54 PM

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you dont "just paste something on"

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.<

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:54 PM

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@pure whale i know how it works, and i have (sortha)

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 6:55 PM

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and if you already have modeled pieces to use for a character from hopefully a legit source you dont necesserally need to export it to blender, object builder has an albiet limited toolset to do such things

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unless your familiar with blender then disregard

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for simple things i almost exclusively use object builder personally

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:57 PM

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@pure whale i am familiar with blender for creating in general, but never used it to make game assets.

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 6:57 PM

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then goodluck! o7

supple tartan Jul 19, 2018, 6:58 PM

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is there a tutorial for adding in clothing to arma i can follow?

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couse i dont want to bother all of you guys here all the time

pure whale Jul 19, 2018, 7:00 PM

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its the same process as importing any models

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just have to rig it to the ofp2 skeleton

cyan heart Jul 19, 2018, 7:02 PM

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There's a tutorial somewhere, lemme see if I can find it

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https://youtu.be/-T_uo4Xz-WI

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The rest is just like Mike said, similar to everything else

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:25 AM

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Hey everyone, having a issue with the rotationZ in the model.cfg. Im modelling a vault and i want the handle to turn on the z axis when it opens just like a real vault. However the issue im facing is that the handle is decreasing in size when animated (video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8fitMdAfDQ&feature=youtu.be) pastebin to model.cfg (https://pastebin.com/GDV8nvdQ)

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:26 AM

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you most likely got it on some other selection too

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all animations need their own bone and selection

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if you need more complex sequences the bones have to be chained

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:27 AM

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Im pretty sure i dont use the selection anywhere else.

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There's only 2 bones defined so actually i am sure.

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:27 AM

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is it part of the door mesh too

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:27 AM

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yes

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:28 AM

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or door selection

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:28 AM

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the handle is part of the door selection since it has to move along with the door.

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:28 AM

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no

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that is just what I said and is wrong

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you need to chain the bones

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so that the rotation bone follows the door

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Can you link me a resource on how to do that ?

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:29 AM

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the source house might have something, or the tank for example has turret that rotates and the barrel component that rotates with it

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and BIKI has "how to animate a model" page

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and page for model.cfg

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the skeleton needs to bee something like ```cpp
"door","",
"handle","door"

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so that the door is a moving part

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and the handle is another moving part that is also a child part of the door

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so it moves with it

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Gotcha!

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:32 AM

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but its can have independent animations

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Ah ok, if this is the issue im going to be happy.

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Let me test it out

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:32 AM

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also the handle part must no be in the same selection as the door

agile zenith Jul 20, 2018, 12:35 AM

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It works, thanks alot! Another thing is broken now but ill try to fix it alone first!

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Fixed

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lol

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Huge thanks, your a god.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:36 AM

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yes. he certainly is, he gives good, accurate, advice over and over again for everyone.

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 12:36 AM

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I got a texture bake going. had a moment to spare

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Also thanks @halcyon wren I'll test the 2K if its enough and if not go for the 4K. The tree thing is like 20 meters tall which is why I was asking.

lusty ginkgo Jul 20, 2018, 4:30 AM

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would it be possible to animate a building's destruction?

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 4:43 AM

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certainly

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you use rtm files

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a bridge eg, is the easiest to visualise where the bridge suppports are the bones

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for each frame of the rtm you move each bone to progressively different positions.
unbinarised rtm files themselves require a model.cfg describing the skeleton, so that bis binarise can binarise it.

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it's there wher things get a bit tricky, because addon breaker can only binarise human rtms. pboProject does what's needed.

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read the docs accomanying pboPro to get understanding of what goes where.

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Destruction .rtms however are broken in Arma3

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In A2 it was fine. You can easily see this problem in A3 by placing the large construction crane and destroying it.

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They dont interpolate between keyframes.

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 8:20 AM

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They dont interpolate between keyframes. isn't it because of simulation tick of houses?

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I remember that if player attached some vehicle to class house then the object became extremely slugish

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it's same thing with house falling down after destruction - movement is limited by simulation tick

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 9:56 AM

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That might be it!

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I wonder if it can be tricked by giving the object a dummy model.cfg anim that is on loop to force per-frame simulation.

stuck oyster Jul 20, 2018, 10:30 AM

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same happens if you attach a vehicle to man and then AI climbs into it

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 11:08 AM

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They dont interpolate between keyframes.

my opinion is that it's because the engine cannot handle UNbinarised rtm. In A2, it could, in A3 it can not. Addon Builder cannot or does not enable binarisation of NON ofp2_manskeletons because it has no means of passing the correct skeleton name to bis binarise. The primary difference between binarised and plain IS relative 'interpolate between keyframes'

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if bis binarise can't binarise the rtm, it simply copies the plain jane version for packing.

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It's a very long time since i tested bridge desturction, and I can't be certain i've actually done so for a3. But my memory does tell me, the unbinarised rtm failed, and the binarised version works. (which is why there's code in pboProject to scream it's head off if you attempt to pack a pbo with unbinned rtm, I certainly put it there for a reason)

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 11:37 AM

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I tested crane with unbinarised rtm and it was working

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binarised rtm on the other hand was broken

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 11:53 AM

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ouch

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what tool did you use to binarise it? (because a3 uses a new format)

broken abyss Jul 20, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Hello guys

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Can anyone supply me with a basic config for building destruction?

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Or should I just strip the sample building config?

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Which looks like a huge mess to me

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:12 PM

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read the messages above, because there's a discussion going on that it does and doesn't work

broken abyss Jul 20, 2018, 12:12 PM

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Allright, thanks Mikero

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:35 PM

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I tested crane with unbinarised rtm and it was working binarised rtm on the other hand was broken

Very interesting. I'll try to repro tonight.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:37 PM

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since you both work for BI how the hell do you binarise these non-ofp2_manskeletons?

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:38 PM

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hah, I can only speak for the VBS side

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:38 PM

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haaaaaaaaaaaa

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(sorry)

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:38 PM

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We include a file called animations.cfg in the directory of the .rtm files, in there we specify the skeleton to use. Our packer handles it then accordingly.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:38 PM

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ditto pboPro (similar, not same)

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Contents:

bindmodel="P:\vbs2\animals\animal_kangaroo\kangaroo_skeleton.p3d";```

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:39 PM

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+1

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be aware that for BIS there are three different versions of the binarised format.

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 12:41 PM

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in a3 it's called rtm.skeleton

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📎 rtm.skeleton

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contains only name of skeleton

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:42 PM

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oop, located in the directory or specifically along the anim files?

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:42 PM

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in my case, explictly in the anim folder, nameOfRtm.cfg

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 12:43 PM

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along the rtm file

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:43 PM

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Aye, cool thanks. I'll give it a closer look tonight. I've got a smoke-stack destruct rtm thats missing the interpolation, and it shouldn't be a binarized anim since I dont tell it any skeleton info...

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:45 PM

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exactly. so in your case, unbinarised doesn't appear to work

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:45 PM

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Let me quickly double check the unpacked .rtm 😄

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:49 PM

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we need @fervent steppe here. He has an animated crane. Not sure iif it migrated to a3.

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:50 PM

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My highway bridges for Arma2 had animated destruction rtms, and they were ported to A3 via cup. Havent checked those, though 😄

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ok, checked it. My smokestack is unbinned .rtm as expected.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:51 PM

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k

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so following the thread or trying to, you're saying the unbinned smokestack, at least does not work. Whatever tesitng i did do some time back, the binned version (of whatever damn thing i was using , the vysilac tower from memory) worked, binarised. gonna have to go swimming in my archives for notes.....

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:56 PM

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I'll try with binned anims tonight and report back.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:56 PM

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thank you.

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:57 PM

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It seems that the opposite of

binarised rtm on the other hand was broken```
Might be true-

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But a multitude of factors can play in here. I wouldnt be surprised if an editor-placed crane will behave entirely different than a wrp-integrated one.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 12:58 PM

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for sure. the insidious land_xx (and simulation=)

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but i'm picking up a difference here between destruct anims and 'crane' anims.

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gonnna pull out the most_stred30 you did for cwr2 and try that.

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 12:59 PM

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I was entirely on the subject of destruct anims. Any kind of articulation of the crane is not the topic.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 1:00 PM

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k

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 1:00 PM

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most_stred30 will likely be A1 data then.

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 1:00 PM

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revised for a2, and subsequently a3.

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 1:01 PM

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binned top, unbined (local data with file patching) bottom

📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Oh...........

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we're talking about two different things, then. 😄

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Was the playback of the destruct anim jittery in both cases, or just in one?

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 1:02 PM

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seems so. and that is fine, it's all part of the rtm jungle.

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 1:03 PM

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it wasn't smooth in both cases but binned one was doing some weird movements because of broken (?) skeleton

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Ahh ok. I thought the unbinned was smooth and interpolating between frames. Didn't even realize the crane had a broken skeleton when a binned rtm is used. 😄

sturdy parcel Jul 20, 2018, 1:07 PM

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this btw, is the quikc n dirty way of binarising any rtm

binarise.exe -skeleton=NameOfCkass some.rtm outputFolder

rough idol Jul 20, 2018, 1:08 PM

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no, no, there is interpolation between frames but "smoothness" of whole animation is limited by simulation tick it seems

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I compared "default" destruction type where building is going underground and intervals are same

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I will try later building custom exe with increased simulation tick to see if it's still case

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but most likely it's going to happen next week

halcyon wren Jul 20, 2018, 1:09 PM

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Perhaps a change if the house is not class=house but class=housesimulated?

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:06 AM

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I heard my name mentioned

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Sorry for the late reply. What's up gents

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:07 AM

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@fervent steppe does your 'crane' work in a3, and separately, do your destruct anims (rtm) work in a3

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I know we both worked on the rtm files, in a galaxy far away, but don't remeber the details.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I can't get the rtms to work on the bridges. I think rtm destruction is borked in a3

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The crane doesn't work because i classed it as a tank so I can pick stuff up with the animated crane hook 😜

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And spin the turret around lol

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Ah right! We did Mike haha

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It works when viewing in bulldozer. Just not in game 😢

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:13 AM

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ok. current state of play appears to be as follows:

UNbinarised rtm's won't work for destruct anims, binarised ones do.
the reverse is true for animations like cranes.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Hmm. And pboproject Binarizes when creating the pbo right. So they should work now?

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:14 AM

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your destruct rtms, yes (becuase i will binarise them). but it would be nice if you can confirm that.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Hmm I'll have to try the bridges then. Because when they did destruct the animation was all wonky.

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:15 AM

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thanks

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Ok. I'm putting the kids to bed and I'll confirm shortly

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:16 AM

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don't scare them too much.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Must read peppa pig first 😂

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Good read for any of you fellas wanting a nice book to read 😂

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:18 AM

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mine is AA Milne at moment. (pooh bear has a lot to answer for)

median bough Jul 21, 2018, 12:19 AM

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i gave my 9y old nephew "the silmarillion" as a gift

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:20 AM

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hobbit yes, unfinished silmarillion, is a big leap for a 9 y/o.

median bough Jul 21, 2018, 12:21 AM

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next will be hobbit, and then lotr. i won't spoil and screw the timeline 😄

stuck oyster Jul 21, 2018, 12:21 AM

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👍

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:21 AM

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+1

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:23 AM

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hehe

median bough Jul 21, 2018, 12:23 AM

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i told him that he has to read all the books first before we watch the movies

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:24 AM

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en francais?

median bough Jul 21, 2018, 12:25 AM

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simarillion is quite a rock to climb, but according to my sis he's doing surprisingly fine

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@sturdy parcel
comme s'il te plaît

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i hope google translate didn't troll me 😄

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 12:30 AM

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my bad, i thought you were french.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:36 AM

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ok soooo. the the rtm sorta works...it destructs but the animation is still wonky..it doesnt match how it looks in buldozer

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should i make a video showing animation in buldozer vs in game?

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would that be helpful

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 AM

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animation in object builder

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https://youtu.be/QoJC5z7Hwvc

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same object now in a3

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https://youtu.be/f-sLQAfuzz4

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:03 AM

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'sorta works' means binarised? versus not working at all?

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 1:03 AM

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yes binarized

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checked before and after with dertm

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 1:04 AM

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👀

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:04 AM

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thanx

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 1:04 AM

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no problem

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i assume theres still something bi needs to fix?

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:46 AM

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ok. so it now seems that the type of fault in binarised rtms is the same for both destruct., and crane animation, (basically, wandering all over the place). The differnce now, apart from the need to fix it, is that unbinarised does not work at all for destruct, but does, for crane.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 1:48 AM

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oh wow

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:48 AM

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there's nothing unusual or wrong or corrupted about the quartenions used in binarised rtm,. so the fault is purely bis decoding at the other end. THis is a bit of a surprise, since the only real difference between a2 binarised and 3 binarised is the ability to have sounds like footsteps (which bis don't use anyway)

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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oh

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:51 AM

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i wonder if a binarised a2 rtm of that bridge would work?

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if it does, i can change my code to produce them instead.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 1:52 AM

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hmm

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i guess one way to find out lol

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 1:53 AM

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you could test that by simply dropping it on top of the current unbinned version and crunch the pbo.

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 4:25 AM

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nope does the same weird animation

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damn i had hope lol

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 5:48 AM

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is that unbinarised does not work at all for destruct, but does, for crane.
What do you mean by "destruct" and "crane"?

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I am sucessfully using unbinned .rtm files as destruc anims for bridges and other structures. The only issue I am having is that the playback doesn't seem to interpolate between keyframes.

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@sturdy parcel

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 8:10 AM

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well according to milkman unbinarised doesn't work, and he may well be meaning the same fault that you do. What I'm trying to do is get something coherent with all the differeent pieces of info.

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 8:20 AM

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Ah, right. 😄

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 8:24 AM

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Milkman pasted a video above of the effect of a binarsisd destruct type anim on a bridge. And I am assuming, it's the same net 'wrongness' that's been reported for cranes. (non desttuct type anims)

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The same visual occurs when using an a2 binarised rtm, which confirms my guess that the binarised data itself is not at fault.

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 8:26 AM

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It looks like the bone centers get mixed/distorted, so they rotate around wrong origins.

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 8:27 AM

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yes

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binarised rtm uses relative changes of position from the previous frame. uunbinarised use absolute model references. Binarised uses a quartenion to store that difference, versus the standard transform matrix.

tulip beacon Jul 21, 2018, 8:46 AM

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don't know if it was mentioned already, but how many frames does your rtm have?

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there is a limit of 15 or 30 frames can't remember exactly, above which everyithing stops working

rough idol Jul 21, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Crane anime is also destruct

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 9:03 AM

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how then is the animation done for the crane for the arm and cable? You led me to believe that the standard up down left right motions weren't working.

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 9:04 AM

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/EA9XK 😃

rough idol Jul 21, 2018, 9:14 AM

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There are only destruction anims for crane

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I posted pictures of it before

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 9:17 AM

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milkman has a crane rigged using tank sim for the turrets, you might be confusing that with what reyhard posted yesterday

sturdy parcel Jul 21, 2018, 9:23 AM

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yep

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 9:47 AM

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This is both a very interesting topic and also hilarious how there are three sub topics that get mixed up 😄

jaunty leaf Jul 21, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Nice glock and glock accessories @foggy finch

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 10:30 AM

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thanks

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 10:32 AM

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😃 seen the glock before, for the attachment, you seem to be having some small issues with the normals/bake

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 10:41 AM

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yeah cage skew, i fixed it and reprocessing now

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 10:41 AM

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what do you use for baking?

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 10:41 AM

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toolbag3

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 10:41 AM

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yeah i feel that the cage controls are meah there

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 10:42 AM

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compared to caging stuff in max its bliss 😄

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i just wish it had vertice controls for the more fiddly parts

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 10:42 AM

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versus say actually controling a mesh, yeah

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:26 PM

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as soon as i add my normal and speculare map it starts to look like this

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/934945136886873339/8E3A0979E68399926EBCCDCFB3121927646CBAC4/

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i have checked my uvws my normal map looks okish shouldnt look like tihs atleast

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and my model has the correct smoothing groups

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:35 PM

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can you post here both textures files @vapid nexus

polar fiber Jul 21, 2018, 12:36 PM

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not a triangulation error?

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and some of those black edge seams do look like the smoothing groups don't match the bake to be honest

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:41 PM

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i checked my smoothing groups in max and they black edge seems dosn't show anywhere there

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and Pufu will make an image hold on

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:42 PM

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try previewing that normals map in some ofter software applied to the mesh (ie - 3ds max)
did you triangtulate things before baking that normals?

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:43 PM

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i did not

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i used substance painter to bake it with though

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:44 PM

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always triangulate before baking normals

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does substance painter shows that area as it should?

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:45 PM

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yep

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this is inside sub

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https://i.imgur.com/K3oD2J1.jpg

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:48 PM

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can you check in OB that that part of the sights is hard edges and not smooth

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like it look from that ingame image

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in any case, there are several baking errors around these parts

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:50 PM

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yea i see it in OB

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thats wierd i don

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don't see it in 3dmax

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but in ob i do

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so that means when i exported it

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it didn't export my smoothing groups

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and i exported it as an FBX

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:51 PM

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try and to avoid FBX when/if possible

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if you are using max, try exporting via the scripted exporter as bitxt

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:52 PM

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oki

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i wil try that many thanks

cinder pivot Jul 21, 2018, 12:53 PM

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@quick terrace I thought fbx was the goto to export into OB?

polar fiber Jul 21, 2018, 12:53 PM

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.fbx 2014 works fine for me so long as it's triangulated before exporting and doesn't have extra UV sets

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 PM

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^^ that

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 PM

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i use 2016

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😦

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at least i think its 2016 as i have 3dmax 2016

cinder pivot Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 PM

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I guess I don’t know which I use as I export fbx from blender

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 PM

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FBX fucks up really bad if you wanna export smoothing groups and multiple UV sets

cinder pivot Jul 21, 2018, 12:54 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 12:55 PM

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if triangulated and one sigle UV set, should work ok, but i am never sure about it

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so for max users, you can always go via bitxt route, never had any sort of issues with it

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 12:56 PM

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bitxt isnt that for blender ?

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 1:00 PM

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bi txt is a text file

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there is a script for max that comes with the tools that allow you to export from max as bitxt (it only exports selected meshes)

bold flare Jul 21, 2018, 1:01 PM

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We'll.. that's certainly good to know... Wish I had known that sooner XD

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But where is it?
Seems to be the same as with the shader definitions for my material editor. I'm missing files in my Arma 3 Tools and don't know where to get them from :/

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 1:15 PM

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i think it is called VM_s-P3D_Export.mcr

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under, for whatever reason
\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01\

bold flare Jul 21, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Ah in samples not in tools 🙈
Deleted samples last week to make room for a game 😄

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Do you know anything about the file the Material Editor uses to find what shaders exist? I seem to not have that

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 1:23 PM

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no idea, it's been a long time i used the oxygen material editor

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here's the script just in case

📎 VM_s-P3D_Export.mcr

pure whale Jul 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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I exclusively import as an obj and I've never had issues with objs

bold flare Jul 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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I've been using fbx so far

pure whale Jul 21, 2018, 2:14 PM

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fbx on the other hand has been annoying every time for me

polar fiber Jul 21, 2018, 2:19 PM

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I always lose smoothing with .obj

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 3:34 PM

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no issues with FBX on my side.

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Carries over eveything, including skinning

bold flare Jul 21, 2018, 3:35 PM

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only gripe I have is that I cannot export my material paths in the fbx and that I always have to reassign everything in OB based on selections

pure whale Jul 21, 2018, 3:40 PM

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let me specify, purchasing assets I always have issues importing ranging from this and that, and without the correct settings I have issues exporting to fbx from ob, when I use obj I have very few issues importing & exporting so I just stick with it, whenever I export as an fbx I also have issues with scaling, I'm not sure if it's just me that's the issue or what, but importing objs I never have scale issues, when I was opening arma 2 buildings I used objs and it worked great

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 3:46 PM

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@halcyon wren does that covers exporting say, structures that require 2 UV sets/

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@bold flare pfff, i never actually even bother trying to export paths. i always find it easier to do that in O2 anyways

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 3:48 PM

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yes, two UVs work fine for me

quick terrace Jul 21, 2018, 4:11 PM

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and keeps smooth groups as well

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from what software?

fervent steppe Jul 21, 2018, 4:14 PM

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So I guess the verdict is...until bi fixes rtm destruction were out of luck?

halcyon wren Jul 21, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Blender. Smoothing groups I preserve by splitting endges

sudden chasm Jul 21, 2018, 5:29 PM

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The Arma Licensed Data Pack doesn't have unbinerized vegetation models for arma 2 does it.....

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Oh nvm. its hidden in a folder called map objects. my bad

pure whale Jul 21, 2018, 6:43 PM

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lol

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all small objects are not in structures or buildings for arma 2

vapid nexus Jul 21, 2018, 10:11 PM

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Pufu that exporter you linked worked like a charm many thanks fixed all my problems

foggy finch Jul 21, 2018, 11:10 PM

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I dont think FBX issues are related to any fault in the file format, its more to do with the import stage into OB,. I can load the same FBX in a variety of software/renderers/engines and all is fine, occasionally when I load an FBX into OB the normals will be buggered post import., yet same file fine in other apps.

quick terrace Jul 22, 2018, 12:05 AM

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it is 100% relates to the importer, i can replicate it each single time . trie fbx version from 2006 to 2018

foggy finch Jul 22, 2018, 12:09 AM

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yee, makes me rage everytime it happens 😃

bold flare Jul 22, 2018, 12:09 AM

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

white jay Jul 22, 2018, 7:55 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/tU46nzC WIP #43434343

sudden schooner Jul 22, 2018, 8:12 AM

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Planned enterable?

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Looks good so far.

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Don't suppose anyone could recommend a good way to make some passive income with my modelling skills? Don't need a lot. Just enough so that I can free up some more time to dedicate to making mods.

bold flare Jul 22, 2018, 7:02 PM

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I did some work before on freelancer websites. Was programming work though but I'm sure there is some modelling stuff too. But the "market" is flooded with Indian/Taiwanese people who take any work they can get and atleast 2 years ago it was kinda hard to get anything at all although there are hundreds of offers.
But maybe worth a try

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 7:03 PM

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yeah i have looked around on cg trader etc but it seems like for everyone looking for a job there are 20 people applying. Plus a lot of the job posting seem like 10 year olds asking for work for their dream game that they can't actually fund.

stuck oyster Jul 22, 2018, 7:03 PM

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put assets on UE / Unity store

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could work

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been meaning to do some myself but dont want to share my own projects stuff

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 7:04 PM

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yeah that's what i'm thinking seems to be the best option so far

stuck oyster Jul 22, 2018, 7:04 PM

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would have to make some more generic stuff for such effort

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 7:06 PM

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It's just trying to find something that people will actually wan't to buy

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it's all well and good making "Survival prop pack no. 342" but people will probably buy one of the other 40,000 survival prop packs lol

stuck oyster Jul 22, 2018, 7:09 PM

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yeah theres a lot of competition

cinder pivot Jul 22, 2018, 7:10 PM

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People always will need props/structures/vehicles so something along there might be good

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Game ready + textured/uv’d could be a selling point

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Yeah, Thinking getting in on the modular building (rust style) type deal might be decent

cinder pivot Jul 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Or just the model so they can do that

bold flare Jul 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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My Idea would also be buildings. Can easily expand it later with more buildings that fit together

sacred grail Jul 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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yeah

bold flare Jul 22, 2018, 7:11 PM

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Just game ready. Without furnature. Enterable.

cinder pivot Jul 22, 2018, 7:12 PM

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^ buildings, build that into a building pack then a pack + props to make a scene

bold flare Jul 22, 2018, 7:13 PM

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😄 Yeah. Props that fit perfectly into your buildings. Like a furnace that perfectly fit's into a corner in some of your buildings to make sure people buy both

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Everyone is starting out with little props I'd say. With buildings there's alot less competition.

terse sparrow Jul 22, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Hello. I have a building with 1 texture and 2 rvmats (one for the windows and one for the rest).
The thing is that if the texture is in .tga then the model have 2 sections but if I change it to .paa, the model now have 205 sections.
Why is this happening?

pure whale Jul 22, 2018, 8:36 PM

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tgas should automatically be converted on loading buldozer no?

terse sparrow Jul 22, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Yes

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https://gyazo.com/ec46ef7022ed74a3edf3796e2909cd8a

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https://gyazo.com/565988f7fff64ce18157f2710597f719

stuck oyster Jul 22, 2018, 8:41 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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check what these are

terse sparrow Jul 22, 2018, 8:42 PM

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I saw it too

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205 sections

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with .paa texture

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but why?

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Maybe a display bug?

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Oh i think i have the answer

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All my mesh was 1 group of polygons

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I splited it into 2 groups, now i have 2 sections with the .paa

quick terrace Jul 22, 2018, 10:19 PM

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did you export that mesh using some community exporter

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:01 AM

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Ok guys, How fucked am I? https://gyazo.com/fcfbb6a0d6404e397ea716b2d85f8990

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 9:04 AM

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well as long as you are fine to not have collision/roadway.. Not very.

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Collision as far as waking on it? As long at objects wont phase through the walls I'll be happy with it. If it can't be walked on, it's no biggie.

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 9:07 AM

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yeah. Collision LOD has a maximum size that, that thing sure exceeds unless you cut it up into smaller pieces

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:07 AM

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If objects can phase through it then I'll just block the entire structure off with a fence or a wall of some sort.

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Ah ok, I may look into it in the future, getting it textured is my main concern atm.

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I'm assuming this will be the largest structure in arma to date lol.

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:08 AM

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you have 50m in each direction from 0,0,0 coordinate for geo lod(collision) and ~35m from 0,0,0 for roadway lod,.

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nah its small 😉

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:10 AM

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So in theory if i took all the faces that make up walkable surfaces, and broke them up into 50m areas, I could reassemble them to have that mesh walkable? If that's something that can be done then I may end up making those sections it's own object with snap points or something so I can assemble it in BD

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 9:10 AM

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Yeah that's possible. That's what all the really large buildings in Arma do.

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But you have to be very precise/careful at the seams otherwise people might fall through or bug around or get stuck

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:11 AM

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I'll keep that in mind, appreciate the replies.

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:13 AM

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you might find it easier to split the outside areas into seperate objects bearing in mind the limits ^^, same with main structure

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/1640/59DFzA.jpg

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that entire thing is made from 3 sections.

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:13 AM

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So you basically make 3 meshes on the entire object and apply snap points to them somehow for reassembly?

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from the entire object*

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After all the collision has been applied im assuming

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:15 AM

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i have the corner pieces, the center section and another section used to connect those, all in all it is only 3 objects used many times

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i had to split due to lod limitations, which i planned from the start

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all aligned using snap points

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:16 AM

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makes sense, so my next question is figuring out how to split this building up since the geometry is already completed.

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:17 AM

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if its fairly symmetrical inside it shouldnt be too hard 😃

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:17 AM

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i'll have to look into it, I'm guessing I'll have to use seams and find the best points on contact to split it

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Yeah, It's pretty much all triangulated.

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:18 AM

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yeah its much easier when you plan large buildings to be split from the start

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my only gripe with snap points is they only work on horizontal planes and not vertical, but something is better than nothing 😃

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:20 AM

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Oh man, I'll have that to look forward to aswell I guess. I'm modeling an entire downtown of real world buildings, should be fun putting them together then, lol.

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:20 AM

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plus if your using the same objects a bunch to make 1 stucture like that stadium, its less modeling overall

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are you using multi-mats?

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if not, you should be 😃

white jay Jul 23, 2018, 9:21 AM

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Not yet, right now I'm still in the process of all the geometry in blender

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:22 AM

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it might be worth making a test object or two to figure out multi-mats with when your at the texturing stage

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there is a guide on the biki

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 9:39 AM

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@white jay the lod limits for Geo /roadway are on the biki under their respective headings- https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD
as well as the multi-mat guide https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mondkalb's_MultiMaterial_Tutorial

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 12:56 PM

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What do people use to make sure distances in a model are correct? I always create a temporary placeholder box with the measurements I want and just put that next to the part that has to be correct.
For example a picatinny rail mount.
Is there a better way?

polar fiber Jul 23, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Yeah, I do bounding boxes

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Pic rails can be useful for measuring things because they have standardised dimensions

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I have a template model of one that I use for a bunch of stuff

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 1:20 PM

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same, modeled one once, pretty much that as a universal template, adjusting its length when required

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i'll pm you some refs for em

quick terrace Jul 23, 2018, 2:20 PM

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yeah, i find it is way easier to model stuff that have ris rails, because the dimensions are standard

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i used to model stuff using background images, i hardly do that anymore, bar the starting point, when i box some things out

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i do try and find as much referances in terms of scale and shit before i even start modelling (cad data, diagrams etc)

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i sort of eyeball the rest

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Slap a texture on it and I'll have a nice bayonet for the RHS M2010 Sniper Rifle 😄

📎 3dsmax_2018-07-23_16-37-14.png

harsh minnow Jul 23, 2018, 2:53 PM

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probably a dumb question but here it goes, is it possible for people to extract textures I used if I upload something to the workshop

hexed fulcrum Jul 23, 2018, 3:03 PM

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if the .pbo its not protected it can be unpacked.. in case of textures they can be opened with TexView2 and its possible to save the already compressed version of the texture with a common format

harsh minnow Jul 23, 2018, 3:05 PM

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how can I protect it? I assume it is a separate program or option

hexed fulcrum Jul 23, 2018, 3:06 PM

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for textures you have to "obfuscate" the entire .pbo mikero tools have that option (subscribers version only)

harsh minnow Jul 23, 2018, 3:08 PM

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👍

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Yes they can extract it. No you cannot protect it from being taken out. You can fool amateurs. But if people really wanna steal you stuff then they can

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 3:42 PM

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bayonet needs an alternate fire mode like breaking point "melee" on guns xD

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 3:42 PM

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I'm sure RHS guys will be happy to add a bayonet firemode with animation to their sniper rifles.. Right PuFu?

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 3:43 PM

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maybe a custom bayonet charge animation like in the new call of duty 😄

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 3:43 PM

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you did a mistake , you should have done the shooting knife from Russia

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 3:43 PM

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yess

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 4:36 PM

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https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/011/964/333/large/uro-3d-20180723123319-1.jpg?1532349276

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pfft wont beat tacticool knife 😛

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Mine's bigger tho 😏

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 4:37 PM

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yeah but useless for opening tactical bacon, too slim and pointy 😉

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/0y6N4

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more renders there for the poly fiends 😃

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 4:43 PM

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those smoothing groups makes me sad , those in arma ingame

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 4:49 PM

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How does one place side rail attachments in OB? I tried putting the picatinny center at 0,0,0 but it's floating next to the model about a cm up and 2cm away to the side. Do I just need to guesstimate the position?
Deleting the Arma samples was the worst idea ever 😄
Nvm.. wasn't. Arma samples only has a bipod attachment which is indeed placed at 0,0,0

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 4:58 PM

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no its done via proxy

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so the weapon has to be configured for it

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and with the config rigged to accept the attachment in the appropriate slot, which would be pointer

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 4:59 PM

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I'm making a new attachment for weapons that already support side attachments

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Already got the attachment on the weapon and at the "right" attachment point. It's just a couple cm next to where it should be.
Other 3rd party attachments work fine on that model

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 5:00 PM

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for a picantinny rail the general rule of thumb is to stick the proxy at the base of the groves that hold the attachment, if the attachment in question was positioned "correctly" it will sit fairly well on the gun

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 5:00 PM

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adjust its position in ob then 😃

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 5:01 PM

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https://gyazo.com/f918d7cdcfafa0c290f9f4004ddc645b something llike this is good, but maybe a bit higher

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idk

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Again. Attachment side. Not weapon side

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The weapon is correct

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 5:02 PM

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o

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:02 PM

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I moved it 1cm down and 2 to the side. Now it's horizontally centered over the barrel. But hovering even higher above the weapon 😄

pure whale Jul 23, 2018, 5:02 PM

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well the center of the proxy should be the center of the attachment p3d xd

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need pic lost u lol

polar fiber Jul 23, 2018, 5:09 PM

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side attachments are in some really stupid place

foggy finch Jul 23, 2018, 5:10 PM

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yeah

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i might have a sample model i can throw you @bold flare

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:11 PM

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https://s.sqf.ovh/arma3_x64_2018-07-23_19-11-10.png This is what i have right now.
https://s.sqf.ovh/3dsmax_2018-07-23_19-11-40.png from that

polar fiber Jul 23, 2018, 5:14 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/og7ods1s7828vgp/Rail_Align_new.p3d?dl=0

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That has verts positioned where the rail slot is on the BIS side rail attachment

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 5:15 PM

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most of the guys forgot , you can actually see the A3 models inside the OB

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that way you can easily place those proxies

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Agaaaaain.. Not making a weapon

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 5:16 PM

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then load attachment and place it like it

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:16 PM

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like what though. That is the problem ^^

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 5:17 PM

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well you can load any attachment to see if its same location but its only via buldozer ofc

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Ahh now I understand.

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Yeah. That would atleast be less work than restarting Arma everytime 😄

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 5:19 PM

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load it via proxy and keep it the middle and then modify your model position , thats it

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 5:20 PM

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Okey from Uro's sample I got an offset of roughly
15,5mm
19,0mm
36,0mm
in 3ds max
That also matches da12thMoney's alignment thingy

Works nicely thanks
https://s.sqf.ovh/arma3_x64_2018-07-23_19-20-46.png

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Why did they get all the other attachments done correctly. But only mess up side attachments (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

quick terrace Jul 23, 2018, 5:23 PM

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because of the convulted way the entire attachment system is designed?

twin urchin Jul 23, 2018, 5:23 PM

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crappy system

polar fiber Jul 23, 2018, 5:28 PM

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It's like they intended the side rail proxy to be along the middle of the weapon too

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but then that only fits one weapon

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also it's the only proxy that's usually upside down

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so I imagine they also intended them to be on the left side of the A3 weapons at some point

bold flare Jul 23, 2018, 7:00 PM

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https://dedmen.artstation.com/projects/xa2y4 Thanks. It's done ^^

woeful viper Jul 23, 2018, 7:46 PM

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i think he should mount the knife on top of the scopes rail

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better for aimed stabs

olive quiver Jul 23, 2018, 9:04 PM

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anyone got an idea what on earth is going on here? in blender it is fine https://gyazo.com/6c2557e560ea0bc117ca1897d246b4dd
but OB just wants to be a spastic https://gyazo.com/d7fe9372b32d7929f81206994eef4b43

polar fiber Jul 23, 2018, 9:24 PM

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need to apply scale, rotation and transformation before you export

formal vapor Jul 23, 2018, 9:28 PM

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@twin urchin Why do the smoothing groups make you sad?

olive quiver Jul 23, 2018, 11:26 PM

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rip, thought it would take it from the selection

lusty ginkgo Jul 24, 2018, 3:30 AM

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do classes with the named property class = land_decal work with external configuration?

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 3:53 AM

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they are 'valid' in the p3d, but whether they also generate a land_xx x class (for wrps) i am not sure but doubt it.

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and what do you mean 'external config' ?

lusty ginkgo Jul 24, 2018, 3:56 AM

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the land class

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:01 AM

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i doubt it since it isn't animated. (afaik)

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you can always check this yourself by writing a land class in same config as your wrp, and seeing via Eliteness whether it was baked into the wrp too. (only specific geolod class= trigger the search for land_xx (and consequent bake), not, the fact you have a config class for a land_pink_elephant).

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there's no hard and fast rule about which classes cause the trigger because bis add another one when it suits them.

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:06 AM

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you can give them a class/config to manipulate in the editor, outside of them being basically a road based planar object I do not know, would need more info from BI

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:06 AM

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yes, that too, and calling them land_decal_blah causes no issues either.

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BUT, it will probably be ignored by bis binarise as irrelevant for a wrp.

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:09 AM

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I would not class anything land_xx that doesn't explicitly require it to function though, it would be un-neccessary.

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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yes, plus it's misleading, plus you can only ever have one single land_nameofP3d in the game.

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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but since the decals are baked with a land_decal class, which is a special class recognised by the engine most likely for rendering/drawing reasons

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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example please (some\a3\config.cpp)

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getObjectType

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only thing on the biki states object type for LandDecal is that page

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they do draw in in the same fashion as shapefile based roads

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:12 AM

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I don't mean to be argumentative, but that doesn't indicate a class in a config.cpp

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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land_decal is baked in class named property in p3d

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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ah sorry sorry, misread.

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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np

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BI have their runway models setup with land_decal class,. I dont know when those changed to that as they used to be road classes.

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roads_f/runway/runway_main_F.p3d for example

sturdy parcel Jul 24, 2018, 4:15 AM

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interesting stuff, and undoubtedly useful if you write scripts to taxi a plane

foggy finch Jul 24, 2018, 4:16 AM

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but the reason for the switch it most likely due to being optimisations for rendering and general optimisations

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as road classes have extra baggage

lusty ginkgo Jul 25, 2018, 2:39 AM

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are surface decal models performance heavy?

foggy finch Jul 25, 2018, 4:01 AM

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I wouldnt say so, they are more simple than a road

lusty ginkgo Jul 25, 2018, 5:29 AM

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time to put decals EVERYWHERE

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:47 AM

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has anyone come across this line pboproject?
""C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\Binarize\Binarize.exe" -targetBonesInterval=56 -textures=p:\temp -binPath=P:
for whatever reason, binarize.exe is crashing when trying to pack a vehicle ive slapped together

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 7:48 AM

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where does the vehicle come from? the p3d most notably?

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:49 AM

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my own build other than a seat and front sprockets for tracks

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 7:49 AM

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Had a guy yesterday who's binarize was crashing because he wanted to pack ripped DayZ p3d's ^^

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

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lol nah nothing silly like that

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 7:50 AM

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does binarize log anything if you run that command line manually?

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I think binarize has a RPT too? Somewhere

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

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not sure how to do that, rather new to this sort of thing, cant see any logs from binarize

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 7:52 AM

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Windows+R -> CMD

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then copy the command and paste with right click

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"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\Binarize\Binarize.exe" -targetBonesInterval=56 -textures=p:\temp -binPath=P:\ that. With the quotes

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no wait..

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I think the input file for it is missing in there

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

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oh yeah didnt copy the entire line

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 7:54 AM

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but yeah. Paste the entire line. And it might tell you stuff in the console

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

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that worked, failed but might be more usefull, cfgvehicles, cfgammo and cfgnonaivehicles is missing apparently

merry gorge Jul 25, 2018, 7:57 AM

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cant get autoslope to work on a wall im making, anyone know where im going wrong?https://imgur.com/a/CnV9WR0

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 8:01 AM

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err thats not right, cfgvehicles is definatly there

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 8:08 AM

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what exactly does the error say?

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 8:15 AM

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C:\Users\Diesel>"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\Bina
rize\Binarize.exe" -targetBonesInterval=56 -textures=p:\temp -binPath=P:\ lpr\ta
nk platform p:\temp\lpr\tank platform"
19:54:32: Warning: CfgVehicles missing in PreloadConfig - may slow down vehicle
creation
19:54:32: Warning: CfgAmmo missing in PreloadConfig - may slow down vehicle crea
tion
19:54:32: Warning: CfgNonAIVehicles missing in PreloadConfig - may slow down veh
icle creation

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 8:22 AM

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PreloadConfig not config.
But no actual error in there. just warnings

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 8:23 AM

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its got me lost haha

sturdy parcel Jul 25, 2018, 8:35 AM

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binarize.exe is crashing when trying to pack a vehicle
there are a legion of reasons binarise can crash, and nothing much can help you because binarise, having crashed, can't report what the error is that caused it.

the most common crash encouterered (so far) has been mass (weights) are wrong or wrongly distributed in the geolod. so you might start there, but, sad to say there are other causes only a little less frequent than that.

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the only good news for you is that it looks very like you are actually using pboProject to invoke binarise, and if so, it has already checked and eliminated a very large range of above faults from happening.

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it should also go without saying that if you attempt to binarise an already binarised p3d, bis binarise will crash for that reason too. (but pboPro won't let you do that)

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 8:43 AM

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no, can confirm theres nothing been ripped or is already binarized, could verywell be geo mass weight as i really didnt put any effort into that eg. selected all verticies and applied a total mass 😛 probably the cause of the issue

sturdy parcel Jul 25, 2018, 8:44 AM

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It's the general case. I think you appreciate it's not posssible to be any more specific than that (without someone looking at your mlod)

wispy orchid Jul 25, 2018, 8:56 AM

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you can move all the lods but res lod to edit lods and enable them one after each other again to see where it crashes (or if it crashes already on the res lod)

sturdy parcel Jul 25, 2018, 8:57 AM

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yep. good workflow that, it's the 'halve an halve again' rule made easy

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only lod he can't hide (that i'm aware of) is the all important geolod

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 9:01 AM

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@olive quiver Warning: CfgVehicles missing in PreloadConfig - may slow down vehicle creation could be an error with the config.cpp/bin that binarize has in it's directory. Just stumbled over that by accident.
Might aswell be normal for the default Arma 3 Tools distribution though.

outer condor Jul 25, 2018, 9:43 AM

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@bold flare thats normal BI tools spam

bold flare Jul 25, 2018, 9:44 AM

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That's because it's PreloadConfig is missing the CfgVehicles = "fastFind" entry. I think binarize.exe loads a config.bin from it's own directory doesn't it?

olive quiver Jul 25, 2018, 10:18 AM

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ok, cheers. will give all this a go shortly

outer condor Jul 25, 2018, 10:27 AM

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@bold flare it loads from p:\bin\config.cpp

tough sinew Jul 25, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Hello! I have a question abour Sections, I have a model with 99 sections and none of my textures are duplicated... Is that ok?

woeful viper Jul 25, 2018, 1:27 PM

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no

tough sinew Jul 25, 2018, 1:35 PM

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😮

quick terrace Jul 25, 2018, 2:41 PM

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LOL 99 problems

ebon abyss Jul 25, 2018, 2:48 PM

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I got 99 problems but arma3life ain't one!

outer condor Jul 25, 2018, 2:53 PM

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@tough sinew https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma:modeling:section_fixing

median bough Jul 25, 2018, 3:11 PM

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99 problems, one solved, 165 problems
#JustArmaThings

twin urchin Jul 25, 2018, 3:16 PM

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some guy has over 3000 sections and doesnt care 😛

strong plaza Jul 25, 2018, 5:46 PM

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how the hell do you even get that many sections?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Hey boys, I've got this issue:
My static MG is moving properly, but the memorypoint's don't move at all, therefore the weapon moves but the bullets fire allways straight forward.
Here's my model.cfg: https://pastebin.com/SGA8cy0R

I've checked countless times my usti hlavne and konec hlavne memory points ARE assigned the gun weight: OtocVez

rough idol Jul 25, 2018, 6:48 PM

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Věž = turret

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Hlaveň = barrel

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 6:48 PM

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are those points rightly assigned in the config?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 6:51 PM

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https://pastebin.com/YaqKu8AP

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here's cfgVehicles

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the issue is: that weapon does not follow standard "turret - horizontal", "gun - vertical" rules, it's the other way round

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therefore the naming might seem odd

tough sinew Jul 25, 2018, 7:00 PM

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@outer condor I dont have duplicated textures :S

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I know how to reduce them

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 7:37 PM

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@atomic path I think you may need a memoryPointGun = "machinegun";

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in the turret config

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as your gun is bullet type

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 7:38 PM

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allright, let's try

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 7:39 PM

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and a memorypoint for it too

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 7:39 PM

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yeah, it's there

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nope, doesn't work

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 7:42 PM

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are the memorypoints in many animated named selections?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 7:43 PM

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one

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Some of them are in more than one though

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but the usti hlavne and konec hlavne are in only one animated selection

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should the autocenter=0 be in memory?

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The eye and eye_look memorypoints are moving properly

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also looks like the turret setting for max and min elevation/rotation is not working

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the elevation limit works, don't mind that

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:12 PM

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no autcenter 0 is geometry lod named property

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each verticle should have only 1 animated selection so that sounds to be correct

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any reason you are not using the default turret animationsource names?

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you might need the custom ones declared in the class animationSources

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mainGun, mainTurret they are I think

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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yeah, but wouldn't it being wrong also cause the weapon not to move?

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scince the weapon is moving correctly

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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true

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and you had autocenter 0 in the geometry lod?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:17 PM

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the reason why I re-define all of this is basically weapon using vertical first and then horizontal, opposite than any tank

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yes

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at this point I have it in every LOD

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:17 PM

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😄 dont do that xD

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but I think I spotted the problem

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you got isdiscrete = 0 in model.cfg skeleton class

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:18 PM

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yeah

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:18 PM

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vehicles need it 1

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or so I recall anyway x9

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:19 PM

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we'll see

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I need it scince the weapon is belt-fed

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:19 PM

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well try if its that

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and yeah making the belt nice with isdiscrete 1 is pain in the ass

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:21 PM

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nope, didn't help

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:23 PM

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alright you can revert that x9

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is the gun facing right way?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:25 PM

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yeah, it's firing to the front of the gun

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:25 PM

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ah yeah you said that earlier

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:25 PM

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okay, do I need bot view-gunner and view-pilot?

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view geo, fire geo?

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:26 PM

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no I dont think those are necessary in this

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do you have mixed uppercase lowercase selection names?

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or all they all 100% same in config.cpp, model.cfg and the p3d

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:27 PM

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I'll make sure to fix that

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but again

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I think it would cause the weapon not to move at all

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:28 PM

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possibly, or if the gun memorypoints dont match

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that might be an issue

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:29 PM

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fixed, packing

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if that was the case

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I'm gonna blow up BI

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:31 PM

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ooo I know!!!

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you have spaces in your memorypoint names

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usti hlavne

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not usti_hlavne

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Im pretty sure Arma does not like spaces much

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or scratch that apparently thats legit

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just looking at sample tank config

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:33 PM

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I literally have a note written to myself: "usti hlavne" not "usti_hlavne"

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:33 PM

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xD

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:33 PM

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scince I had this problem long ago and spent so much time looking for that mistake

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:33 PM

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I dont personally use spaces in anything

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just so I dont mismatch them

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:34 PM

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not working still

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also from 3rd person the view doesn't follow the weapon

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but when aimed it does

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:35 PM

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do you have these memoryPointGunnerOutOptics = "commanderview"; memoryPointGunnerOptics= "commanderview";

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:36 PM

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nope

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:36 PM

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any view memorypoints?

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:37 PM

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pos_gunner, pos_gunner_dir, eye, eye_look

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and gunnerview

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:37 PM

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not in config though?

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oh wait I have it here xD

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:38 PM

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I do believe those are inherited

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the eye and eye_look work perfectly

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:38 PM

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alright

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oh

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you had that autocenter named property right!

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actually now that I checked out my stuff I dont have it

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so remove it

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:40 PM

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from where?

stuck oyster Jul 25, 2018, 8:40 PM

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well everywhere youve put it xD

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geometry lod is where it should be if needed

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but its coming back to me now

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vehicles dont need it

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buildings do

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and static turret is more like a vehicle I think

atomic path Jul 25, 2018, 8:41 PM

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let's see

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nope

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😄

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https://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/4vognc/memory_points_not_following_turret_rotation/

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I'm not the first one though

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/174891-turret-model-turns-currectly-but-crosshair-does-not/

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here's another discussion on the topic

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:41 PM

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I have even more interesting issue:
I've created a weapon, one amongst many in certain addon
pboproject crunches it all fine, no errors or warnings in binlog
problem appears in the game: when selecting weapon I get the message "cannot open <path to file>.p3d
more interesting facts: my friends can use this weapon packed from the same files by them
When using .pbo created by their pboproject it doesn't work for me
All weapons crunched together with this one work just fine

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also, I can fire the weapon, it plays weapon's sound and shows proper names on HUD, but the memoryLODs don't work and the weapon is invisible

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:42 PM

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-filePatching enabled? And a config with a different path in your arma directory?

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:42 PM

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if the path was wrong it wouldn't crunch and it wouldn't work at my friends

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:43 PM

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It would

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and yes it would

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that's why I said filePatching.

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:43 PM

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you don't have the 'correct' pbo installed in the game.

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:43 PM

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If you have filePatching enabled. And it finds a config under the same path as in your pbo. It will use the one it finds in your game directory instead of the one in the pbo.
And if that config has a wrong path...

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:44 PM

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presumably this p3d comes from a commity addon. the one extracted on your p drive is correct. the pbo used in the game, is not.

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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I'll launch the game with filePatching

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Why? If it's the problem I'm thinking of you need to start without.

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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never had it on

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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well you can very easlity see if that p3d exists in the pbo by using elitentess.

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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Good. Then it's not that. That's why I asked -filePatching enabled?

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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that's exactly what i did Mikero, extracted the pbo

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the M91.p3d is there

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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k

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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I even opened it via ODOLconverter

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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what does the ingame config viewer say?

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:47 PM

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the LODS and all is there

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ingame config viewer leads to the correct path

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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is the path where it says "Not found" a different path? or the correct one?

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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what is, the 'correct' path please

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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the same path it leads to in "cannot open p3d"

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and the same path where the file is

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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Dude.

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The path please

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:48 PM

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what\is\the\correct\path

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:49 PM

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copy-paste at best. People tend to fix their issues accidentally by typing off something different than what they have

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:50 PM

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19:46:49 Warning Message: Cannot open object north\nf_weapons\fin\m91\m91.p3d

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:51 PM

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what the hell is ODOLconvertor ?

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:51 PM

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T_D's debinarizer

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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it's free debinarising site where you get the resLODs dissorted to prevent stealing them

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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k

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ah, yes, tim dittmar

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:53 PM

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All my model paths start with a leading \
Yours doesn't

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:53 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/nHug1nT

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yeah, I've tried both

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:53 PM

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~~Wait~~ nvm. Forgot an arma bug 😄

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:53 PM

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they both work

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I mean with and without a slash

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 5:54 PM

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can you send me the pbo?

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:54 PM

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yes. leading slash is inferred for ALL file references except picture=

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(can't ask bis to be consistent)

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 5:55 PM

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just like leading p: in OB or slash in rvmat file

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 5:56 PM

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ouch, that was a low blow <grin>

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there's a bug in obejct builder which 'allows' a drive:\ specifier. which is completely illegal

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anyway, that's not helping much. i asked you for \the\exact\file because people often extract incorrectly

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can't help further, i'll shut up, and leave it to the gurus in here.

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 6:00 PM

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wait didn't I post it earlier?

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 6:02 PM

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yes, all good, and it looks fine.

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 6:04 PM

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My guess is pboprefix. That's why I asked for the pbo 10 minutes ago.. But apparently I'm just being ignored as my advice is not wanted here.

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 6:10 PM

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chillout dude, the pbo is almost 100mb

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 6:13 PM

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and you are sure you have 100% the same pbo as your friends?
And also don't maybe have the pbo twice in two slightly different versions?

forest harbor Jul 26, 2018, 6:14 PM

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(omg i am actually importing one of my buildings into arma 3.)

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Do the other weapons work? Is that the only one that doesn't?

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 6:20 PM

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Dedmen, you've found the issue

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I had an old version of a weapon I was inheriting from

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so it inherited the class of an old weapon

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while my friends didn't have that pbo

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great shot man

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 6:21 PM

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+1

bold flare Jul 26, 2018, 6:21 PM

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sometimes you hit the jackpot when throwing stones in the dark

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but other times you hit someones window

atomic path Jul 26, 2018, 6:22 PM

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thankfully it's arma modding community so everyone live in windowless cellars

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 6:24 PM

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i live under a rock, like most other woodlice and pests

woeful viper Jul 26, 2018, 6:25 PM

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lies... his obsession with goats proves that he is a louce specialized in goats...

sturdy parcel Jul 26, 2018, 6:25 PM

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only the pretty ones.

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and my obsession with goats has proven to be effective, to get anything to work with arma.

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(but most people don't perform the cermony properly)

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it's the bit where they have to stand on tip toe, singing a nursery rhyme, while waving chicken feet above their head that always let's them down)

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:06 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/8DvDEJm.png
Anyone know how to fix this issue with the shadows / normals?

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It's most noticeable on the stock.

eternal bloom Jul 27, 2018, 10:08 AM

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maybe by decreasing specular power

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_RVMAT#Basic_surface_setting

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link edited

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:09 AM

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I've tried it already.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:10 AM

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have you flipped the normalmap green channel?

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:10 AM

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No?

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The normals are from A2.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:11 AM

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ah those should be ok

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you could fiddle with the fresnel value

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:11 AM

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Is there a specific shader or render flag I need to use?

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:11 AM

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compare to Arma3 equivlents

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for what?

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I assume you got supershader in use

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if its from A2

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:12 AM

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The RVMAT.

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I do.

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class StageTI
{
    texture = "a3\weapons_f_rus\rifles\ak107\data\ak107_f_1_ti_ca.paa";
};
ambient[] = {1,1,1,1};
diffuse[] = {0.7,0.7,0.7,1};
forcedDiffuse[] = {0,0,0,1};
emmisive[] = {0,0,0,0};
specular[] = {0.152,0.152,0.152,1};
specularPower = 120;
PixelShaderID = Super;
VertexShaderID = Super;
class Stage1
{
    texture = "a3\weapons_f_rus\rifles\ak107\data\ak107_f_1_nohq.paa";
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage2
{
    texture = #(argb,8,8,3)color(0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5,DT);
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage3
{
    texture = #(argb,8,8,3)color(0,0,0,0,MC);
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage4
{
    texture = "a3\weapons_f_rus\rifles\ak107\data\ak107_f_1_as.paa";
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage5
{
    texture = "a3\weapons_f_rus\rifles\ak107\data\ak107_f_1_smdi.paa";
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage6
{
    texture = #(ai,64,64,1)fresnel(5.4,1.4);
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage7
{
    texture = "a3\data_f\env_land_ca.paa";
    uvSource = tex;
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[] = {1,0,0};
        up[] = {0,1,0};
        dir[] = {0,0,0};
        pos[] = {0,0,0};
    };
};

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:12 AM

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MM ok so why do you have A3\RUS folder?

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Im suspecting this is going wrong on multiple levels now

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Nah I have all that set up already. Like, that part works fine, trust me.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:13 AM

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NO

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you dont put anything in the A3 folder

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never

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thats for A3 data

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you own stuff you put in your own folder

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:13 AM

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It's in documents.

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In its own folder.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:14 AM

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its too hot to argue with you

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youre doing it wrong.

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end of story

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:15 AM

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I mean, no? That's not the issue. The issue is that the normals aren't rendering correctly.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:15 AM

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no its not the issue

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but for fucks sake dont put your own shit under A3 folder

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:15 AM

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That's not A issue either.

stuck oyster Jul 27, 2018, 10:15 AM

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alright good luck

quick terrace Jul 27, 2018, 10:21 AM

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no one will even try and debug what it is wrong with it (seems like a SMDI and NOHQ issue) if you are not have your setup correctly

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because it might simply be a complete waste of time

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:22 AM

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The setup's fine.

quick terrace Jul 27, 2018, 10:22 AM

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lol

icy roost Jul 27, 2018, 10:22 AM

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This addon is already on the workshop and it works FINE.