#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 116

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:02 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/fhCwQT/3dok.jpg

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thats the rendered view and the material, just a quick thing i threw together to test this

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I used render texture to output the tga file

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:04 PM

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if you add an uwvmap on that you could change the tiling

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:04 PM

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https://image.ibb.co/bXcD5T/ugly.jpg

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:04 PM

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but for example i added it this - https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/010/646/421/large/markus-bjorklin-namnlos.jpg?1525477493

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:04 PM

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thats what it looks like in buldozer

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:05 PM

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i would never in a million years be able to render out a normal map and texture in a program like photoshop

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Ok, let me ask this. How should i export? what format and settings?

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This is not a high res or anything

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from 3ds'

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:07 PM

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when it comes to bulldozer i don't know

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:07 PM

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I mean in 3ds max

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3ds, fbx, etc

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Obj

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:07 PM

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i would think fbx

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:07 PM

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alright

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Now theres a ton of settings for fbx export, different ones play well with different editors. any suggestions?

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:08 PM

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try it normal first

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:08 PM

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"Some materials in this scene may not be supported by certain applications and will import as standard gray materials instead. The following materials are affected:
-Material #26 [Cylinder001]"

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odd, its a standard material

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https://image.ibb.co/fhCwQT/3dok.jpg shows my material editor, isnt that just a standard material?

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:10 PM

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yes and in bulldozer it should be converted into an .paa file

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wich is the correct fileformat for arma 3

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:11 PM

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Convert the tga to paa?

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Ive tried that as well, same result

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:12 PM

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are you opening it in oxygen 2 or bulldozer ?

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:12 PM

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i dont have oxygen, im opening it in object builder and previewing with buldozer

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well im importing it

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tried 3ds and fbx

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:14 PM

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oxygen and object builder is the same thing

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:14 PM

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i suggest looking into this reddit thread

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https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/24nk0h/tutorials_for_modeling_and_texturing/

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:14 PM

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people who have been around for quite some time , myself included, will always call oibjhect builder oxygen

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because we are used to that

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:14 PM

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totally understandable PuFu

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:15 PM

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you need to export a texture, not a material

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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I mean for all I know its buldozer thats messed up

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idk

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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do you use proper suffix naming?

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yo

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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and idk if .rvmat is made in 3ds or object builder

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Texture_Naming_Rules

ArmA: Texture Naming Rules

cinder pivot Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/197417-3dsmax-substance-painter-object-builder-workflow-tutorial/

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:16 PM

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rvmat is basically a text file made with notepad

cinder pivot Jun 25, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Good info there^

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:17 PM

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oh thanks andrew i will put that into my arma 3 texturing tutorials folder 😄

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:17 PM

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yeah there is some good info in these SA vids

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:17 PM

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um

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no i didnt name it anything special

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lol

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:18 PM

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you need to assign both a texture

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and a material to a mesh selection

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:19 PM

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I was thinking so... but when i export from 3ds max, all i get is a tga file

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:19 PM

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what sort of mesh are you working on?

vapid nexus Jun 25, 2018, 11:20 PM

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he is testing on an cylinder

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:20 PM

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as i said, the TGA is the diffuse (in your case)
the material file is a text file
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader

Super shader

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:20 PM

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a cylinder

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yes i exported the diffuse

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:21 PM

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the RV Material and ATtributes

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contains aditional texture maps\

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such as normals, detail, spec/gloss ambient occlussion/shadow maps

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:23 PM

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Just to see what my options are.... any of you do work for hire? Im making a free mod, but it may be more worthwhile to just pay than learn all this, its WAY over my head.

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I never dreamed it would be this deep to get a simple single object into a game with a standard texture using 1 channel

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That page you linked might as well be written in greek, i dont understand any of it

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oh and @cinder pivot ty for the link. Ive saved it. Thats 3 hours worth of videos I will do my best to try and watch it

quick terrace Jun 25, 2018, 11:26 PM

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any of you do work for hire? Im making a free mod, but it may be more worthwhile to just pay than learn all this, its WAY over my head.
i am, but i am on the expensive side. in any case:
#creators_recruiting

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:27 PM

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So can I dm you or should I reask the same question in that channel?

cinder pivot Jun 25, 2018, 11:28 PM

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🤑 whatchu need made

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Lol

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Just a few simple basic models. Nothing special. Vegetation

woeful viper Jun 25, 2018, 11:30 PM

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Vegetation is very special, actually...

ruby dragon Jun 25, 2018, 11:31 PM

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Not when you take it down as simple as im taking it. And hell it can be 2d for all i care

half heath Jun 26, 2018, 12:22 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/447f2a821b7a69f654a8e90d5c178a9d.png

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I start at $90 an hour

fathom dagger Jun 26, 2018, 2:09 AM

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oof

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Hey guys, any idea what I'm missing here? I have a new model in game, and everything is working fine except everytime I do cursortarget or cursorobject on it I get null object returned

past edge Jun 26, 2018, 9:16 AM

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have you tried revealing the object to yourself?

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Opinions

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https://gyazo.com/72330dbd5cbafe995b868377dc3aef80?token=45780bf486a34ba634de3c1adff85254

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?

agile flint Jun 26, 2018, 10:54 AM

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@lime quest Is that dirt or rust on it?

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Rust

agile flint Jun 26, 2018, 10:54 AM

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If its rust it looks way too confided. I've never seen rust just apply itself so perfectly in spots like that and leave a perfectly smooth and good surfacve just next to it

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Youre right i wasnt so sure about the rust placement

agile flint Jun 26, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Maybe try make the rust more prominent over the entire thing? But also keep the confined areas

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Just looks too clean for rust that heavy thats all

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Ill make some edits

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 2:47 PM

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@past edge Yep, it still returns null object

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Right I cant get the object viewer in the object builder to load for whatever reason, bulldozer comes up with the message of External view Attach Failed, no Viewer Found. I know this has probably been ased a million times and I have tried looking online doing doing what they say, I even followed a video to set up the work drive etc so as to make sure that wasnt my problem and try to figure it out, but after hours of scratching my head as to what is going on Its not working, has anyone figured this out?

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in the configurator for bulldozer I have this path E:\ESO\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools [Work Drive]

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The Arma 3 Directory is set up in tools options as is the P;/ drive which is just P:/

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and in the object builder the options are this: P:\buldozer.exe -buldozer -name=Buldozer -window -noLand -exThreads=0 -noLogs -noAsserts -cfg=buldozer.cfg

bold flare Jun 26, 2018, 3:38 PM

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E:\ESO\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools [Work Drive] That looks weird. Shouldn't that just be P:\ ?

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:38 PM

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ill give it a shot

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I mean it has to find the arma3.exe doesnt it? which would be in the copy of the arma 3 tools folder no?

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so my duplicate

bold flare Jun 26, 2018, 3:41 PM

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don't know what buldozer would need arma3.exe for

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buldozer itself == arma3.exe usually

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atleast I used arma3.exe as my buldozer in the past

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:42 PM

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sorry just realised what I put, not in the bulldozer configurator, its in the Arma 3 Tools Options

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?

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What did I do?

bold flare Jun 26, 2018, 3:44 PM

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Nothing.

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Alright, Ill check to see what I have in bulldozer config

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Yeah its just P:/

bold flare Jun 26, 2018, 3:47 PM

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Like.. you could try... Just taking your arma3.exe, moving it to your pdrive and launching that in Object Builder instead of buldozer

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no guarantees tho ^^

halcyon wren Jun 26, 2018, 3:47 PM

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needs -buldozer startup param

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:48 PM

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in this bit? P:\buldozer.exe -buldozer -name=Buldozer -window -noLand -exThreads=0 -noLogs -noAsserts -cfg=buldozer.cfg

halcyon wren Jun 26, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Yes.

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Whats the startup param or is it literally what you said?

halcyon wren Jun 26, 2018, 3:49 PM

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its already in there

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P:\buldozer.exe -buldozer

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Ah so, it wouldn't be that then as it has it

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Right?

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Yeah the object builder options have External Viewer as P:\buldozer.exe -buldozer -name=Buldozer -window -noLand -exThreads=0 -noLogs -noAsserts -cfg=buldozer.cfg and the DLL as E:\ESO\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools [Work Drive]\ObjectBuilder

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Path for Textures is just P:\ like the manual says

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if I try to run just bulldozer on its own it says "FatalError P:\Dll\x64\PxFoundation_x64.dll could not be loaded" , is it possibly something to do with that?

bold flare Jun 26, 2018, 3:58 PM

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you can find that dll in your arma directory

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just move them over manually

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but if you run buldozer without the -buldozer parameter then it will just try to launch arma

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Okay, I have moved it, Ill give it a shot now, just a quick one I've noticed though as I was moving the file over in the Arma directory the folder is "Arma 3\Dll" and in the tools directory its "P:\dll" would that matter?

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Still says that it Failed to attach

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Ahh got it now, the x86 wasnt there either

sturdy parcel Jun 26, 2018, 4:39 PM

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there is only one 'buldozer' on your pc, it's called arma3(x64) exe.
there is no relationship between P:\buldozer, the dta\bin.poo you have on your pc, nor the dlls that the real engine uses and what a p:\buldozzer. exe might, possbly, be able to use. And, as often as not the shaders you must use because they came with the game, aren't always the same as those that P:\buldozer wanted. It is also ridiculul;ous to copy over a dozen or a milion dll's onto p: when the exe shoudl nto be there in the first place.
To fix this, permanently, all you have to do, change from "P:\buldozer.exe -lots -of -options" to "\where\ever\arma3,exe -lots of options"

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The bin\config.bin /cpp that ships with bi's true bulzozer is also incompatible and, in the past, caused the tiresome tetrahedron bug.

do you self a favor and run arma3p to be finished with this nonsense forever.

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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@edgy coral what type of object is it? cursorTarget does not return everything afaik

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@molten thunder https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools do this

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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@stuck oyster it's just a box, like a planters pot sort of. cursorObject isn't working either

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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does it have a config?

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is it a terrain object?

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 5:28 PM

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I just copied the files it said it was missing and it appears to be working now

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Id still suggest you do the above.

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Yeah it has a config. It's using House as it's base class

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:32 PM

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thats what I was after

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does it have valid geometryLOD?

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convex shape, componentXXX naming, mass 1+

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Anyone happen to know the location of the .paa texture files in the A3 Samples? such as Glass etc

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:34 PM

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More, less or no rust?

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https://i.gyazo.com/707f0fcc1713d348dbd723f81421848d.png

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:35 PM

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@molten thunder they are in the unpacked A3 data

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@lime quest less

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:36 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/165402bfac2840b95492d36bb7e0a0e0.png Without rust

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:36 PM

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looks like advanced equipment

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should be made out of materials that dont rust

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:36 PM

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@stuck oyster How is that Lost Dragons mod my friend

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I didnt realize until now that i recognized your name lol

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/363127001999212544/460932628447494144/unknown.png

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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ive been waiting for it

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holy smokes

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looks like ME

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Mass effect

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citadel

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Very nice work 😃

lean monolith Jun 26, 2018, 5:37 PM

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What is this supposed to be though?

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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it is a city complex

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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looks like a giant hive city from WH:40k

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although lost dragons isnt based completely off WH:40k

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Maybe its inspired i have no say since i didnt create it

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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https://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/26/25069/New_InfrastructureBlocks_InGame_Wip_01.PNG

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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but looks amazing

lean monolith Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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Oh. I can see the resembalance now

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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its insipired by a lot of things really

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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see im looking for data_f but its just noth there, plenty of other ones but no data_F

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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It has a mass of 150000, Component01, the convex shape I'm not too sure on how to make sure it's right @stuck oyster

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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should be

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https://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-dragons @lean monolith

Mod DB

Lost Dragons mod for ARMA 3

Lost Dragons is a multiplayer total modification aiming to bring out a new thrilling gamemode for Arma3 . Our concept is futuristic objective based team warfare with randomly generated map elements to ensure every game is a unique experience with completely...

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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when can we expect release lmao ive been waiting since 2013

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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soon™

lime quest Jun 26, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Time = Quality atleast

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:41 PM

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I may enjoy making it more than releasing it xD

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🙈 🙊

lean monolith Jun 26, 2018, 5:43 PM

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🐷

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:45 PM

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@edgy coral therse component convex hull tool in OB

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structure - convexity

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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I did the convex hull just to make sure and repacked. Still doesn't return anything with cursortarget or cursorobject

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:52 PM

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how do you create it?

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in Eden?

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with scripts?

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 5:54 PM

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I'm creating it in eden

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on the vr map

stuck oyster Jun 26, 2018, 5:56 PM

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if you drop some house next to it does that get returned with the commands?

edgy coral Jun 26, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Yup, I get the object back when I do cursortarget on a building next to it

sacred grail Jun 26, 2018, 6:15 PM

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Can somebody help me with this bake?

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https://imgur.com/a/ItJOGxk

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Its such a simple object and I have had no issue with objects like this before

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I can send you the obj if you want to try it?

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I have tried with and without a cage

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and keep getting this result

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I am baking with SP2

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Here is the Obj

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https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UnndPJJG25BJ3ihhYgf8EZXoQE6v0Ac0

timber cobalt Jun 26, 2018, 6:38 PM

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@polar fiber
"well hiddenselections is adding sections to the model, so I'd probably guess that is more intensive
also wont hide things like shadows and collision for those parts"

thanks

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 7:48 PM

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anyone know the location of a body.rvmat?

median bough Jun 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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go to your P drive
go to your a3 folder
hit F3
type body.rvmat
thank me later

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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I dont actually know why I didnt even think of that

median bough Jun 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

molten thunder Jun 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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Its so obvious, Cheers 😂

median bough Jun 26, 2018, 7:51 PM

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😄

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 2:46 AM

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So im trying to pack the model and test it in game, however, it doesnt appear to be packing all the files into the pbo, so for example it will only pack config, and not pack the other files in the folder such as sounds and physx

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and therefor I cant test it as it wont show up in editor

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 2:54 AM

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are you packing with addon builder?

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@molten thunder

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If so I would strongly recommend the tools installation method I linked earlier and using Mikeros PboProject (free version is available) for packing

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as it gives you a wide array of error reports when whatever you are packing has errors in it

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Addon builder on the other hand tells you just about nothing

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but if you insist packing with it you may have to adjust its settings to include right file types

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you might also have the common config error for example wrong pathing somewhere

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but since you already left I'll go to sleep too.

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Im just looking for that link standby

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Well the free version is broken apparently, its too late to do this now, Ill try again in the morning

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 3:06 AM

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it is not broken

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you just have to install all the mikero tools.

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:38 PM

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People, what tool do you use for creating 3D models for Arma? Blender or something else?

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 12:40 PM

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whatever floats your boat - blender is a solid choice

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 12:40 PM

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I started with Cinema4D and switched to 3ds Max now. Mainly switched because I wanted to teach myself more professional tools.
In the end you export as fbx anyway. No matter what tool you used the end result is the same

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Is it easier than Blender ?

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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3ds max definetly not

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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I'm concerned about transition from <tool of your choice> => Arma 3

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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also getting 3ds max is not that cheap unless you are a student to get it free

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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which tool does that with less hussle

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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blender

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Blender probably with the blender toolbox for arma

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:42 PM

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I would guess Blender

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👆

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:42 PM

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thanks lads

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:43 PM

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whatever tool you make the model, getting it into game requires pretty much same steps. The part where you convert it to p3d is so tiny that it does not really matter that much

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pretty much either export as P3D from Blender or FBX to ObjectBuilder to P3D from other software

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:44 PM

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cool

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:46 PM

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before the P3D stage there is the modeling of all the necessary LODS and after that is the configs and related shizels

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:46 PM

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I know you're going to hate me for asking - but how much time goes in making one vehicle from start to deployment?

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probably a lot

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 12:47 PM

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months?

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:47 PM

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X amount of time

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:47 PM

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🙂

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sounds fair

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:47 PM

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depends on how good a modeler you are

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how good config writer you are

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what kind of detail level you are going for

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I can make a box with cylinder wheels work as a car in an hour

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but its a box with cylinder wheels

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a good model can take weeks

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as in model and textures

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and good refined config can take days

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not working 24/7 tho

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 12:54 PM

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do you think BI have some internal tools for it?

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 12:55 PM

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for what?

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@craggy basin

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

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entire process

sturdy parcel Jun 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Like any game company, they're going to have a whole range of 3rd party tools to make models. 3dsmax for starters. BUT, if you're question relates to BIS tools, what you see, they use also.

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

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I see

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

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There have been many videos on BI's youtube channel where you could see how they make models and write configs

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 1:04 PM

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no shortcuts for them either then

sturdy parcel Jun 27, 2018, 1:05 PM

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no more than we have, and probably a little less than we have.

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 1:05 PM

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its not particularly complicated once you get the hang of it

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 1:08 PM

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👆

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that just might take a bit of time

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(can be counted in years)

craggy basin Jun 27, 2018, 1:09 PM

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😃

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I used to work some basic stuff in Blender, but it was some time ago. What scares me most is "armafication" of all that.

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but ok, thanks for all the help

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 1:11 PM

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armafication is pretty much like in any other game and can have some quirks. modeling is the same for all though

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and there are the sample models that show quite well how the basic stuff work too

agile flint Jun 27, 2018, 2:34 PM

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Blender is getting a nice 2.8 update soonish which take the platform to a whole new level

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Plus its free haha

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 2:36 PM

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Maybe I should get into Blender too 🤔

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 2:36 PM

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good luck - if you are used to max it will be painfull

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Well I just learned max and started maybe 4 months ago with it ^^
I'd say I'm not used to anything

fickle olive Jun 27, 2018, 3:36 PM

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as good a place to ask as any, anyone know which mod contains the mraps with the full RPG cage? not in CUP :/

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 3:39 PM

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Okay so I have downloaded all of the Mikeroos tools like you suggested @stuck oyster , for some reason though its still not working, saying something about Tools not found

sturdy parcel Jun 27, 2018, 3:51 PM

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which 'something' can't it find?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 3:58 PM

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it hits makePBO and says MakePBO is installed - One or more cant be found

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Iv'e just uninstalled everything and going to try reinstalling

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 3:58 PM

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pboProject

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?

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 3:59 PM

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Have the same problem too. Didn't have time to fuss around and just use armake since then. My error is

locating rapify...One (or more) tools are not installed for this user (or pc):

Press the any key

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The : looks like there should be a list.. but there is none

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And Rapify.exe is right under pboProject.exe in the same folder which is also the working directory

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 4:00 PM

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Yeah when I try and run PboProject thats what it says

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 4:01 PM

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"Press the any key" .. For one I have no "any" key.
Second. It crashes when I press anything

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MakePbo/Rapify/ExtractPbo/Eliteness all work fine

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Just use armake instead if you need a pboProject alternative.

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It's faster to use, faster, and IMO easier to use too.

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Don't even need a pdrive for it.

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 4:03 PM

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for me its locating rapify...found locating makepbo..One (or more) tools are not installed for this user (or pc): press the any key

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but if I run makepbo on its on it runs, so Im not sure

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or atleast it pops up with the debug

gritty osprey Jun 27, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Reinstall with antivirus off all of Mikeros Tools

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I had the same thing

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 4:44 PM

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alright ill give it a shot

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heres on during DePBO setup it says something about Target (PATH) not being found and then asks me about a headless server installation

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is that normal?

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Nope still says locating rapify...found locating makepbo..One (or more) tools are not installed for this user (or pc): press the any key

bleak tangle Jun 27, 2018, 4:53 PM

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What specifically does it say about the target path? You can just say no to the headless server installation, I believe that's for situations where you're installing tools without a UI, i.e. through command line

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 4:54 PM

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"press the no button in the UI if you are installing without having a UI"

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:07 PM

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I managed to get the addon Builder to work in the end and not hide files that I needed, still not showing up in the editor though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:07 PM

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Show me your config

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:07 PM

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must be the config

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ill PM you it

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:07 PM

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😄

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Aww expected something hard 😄

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scope is missing

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scope = 2

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The Car_F class is by default hidden. So if you inherit you need to "unhide" it

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Also make sure your CfgPatches has the car classname in units[]

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:10 PM

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soo patches is // List of units defined in this "PBO" units[]= { "MG_Cortina", };

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:10 PM

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yeah

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Cool thats set up right then, and scope is missing where? the first part?

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:12 PM

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In your vehicle config

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your model path model = "\@NI_Assets\\Veh\MG_Cortina" looks very wrong

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usually the prefix doesn't have a @ in it

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and the double backslash

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Do you have a pboPrefix?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:28 PM

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So the actual folder has @NI_Assets the double backslash probably missed when I was changing something

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:29 PM

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what is @NI_Assets?

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The pbo is called @NI_Assets.pbo?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:30 PM

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the Folder name so its @NI_Assets\addons\NI_assests.pbo

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:30 PM

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So do you have a pboprefix or not?

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NI_assests.pbo is that a typo?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:30 PM

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might be, im going to have a look

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so the .pbo is actually called @NI_Assets.pbo

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:31 PM

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So if you don't have a pboPrefix your path is correct (besides the double backslash)

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:32 PM

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yeah thats probably whats causing it im guessing

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:32 PM

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atleast theoretically it's correct. Don't know if Arma takes the @ properly. But it should

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:32 PM

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well here goes again haha

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Nope, still cant open the model

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ill try removing the @

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:35 PM

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You still didn't answer my pboPrefix question....

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:36 PM

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im not sure what youre talking about if im honest, this is my first model

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Are you building with BI Addon Builder now?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Yeah, only thing I could get to work

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:37 PM

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https://s.sqf.ovh/AddonBuilder_2018-06-27_19-37-47.png that

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:38 PM

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theres no prefix

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:38 PM

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hm.. Then it's probably really the @

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you could also just add a prefix

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if you don't use a prefix then it will automatically be set to your pbo name

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meaning if someone renames your pbo your mod will break

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:40 PM

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ah I see, so I put something like NI_Asset_Pack\addons

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:40 PM

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yeah

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or just NI_Asset_Pack

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And then your model path would be NI_Asset_Pack\Veh\MG_Cortina.p3d not sure if you need the p3d

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:44 PM

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alright ill give it a shot

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Still cant open the object

bold flare Jun 27, 2018, 5:47 PM

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PM me your final pbo

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🤦

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you give it the path to your model

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not the path to a folder which contains some model with some name

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Is that wrong like that in the samples??

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 5:54 PM

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Its probably my mistake if im honest

minor jasper Jun 27, 2018, 5:56 PM

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hi guys. so I have been lookinga tsome old huts used on our maps in unsung yesterday. I noticed they all had shadowvolume 0 only. and this lod has maybe 900 faces. so i added an additional lod shadowvolume10, and removed a lot of details. now in game the model shows SV10 and NEVER shows SV0. this has happened simultaneously on 20+ models I added SV10 for. they have property prefershadowvolume set to 1 and sbsource set to shadowvolume - they also have property class set to house and map set to house any idea why my models only show the lowest res shadow now? this happens on 12000 viewdistance or 500 viewdistance, with shadows on 50 or 200.

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all shadows are triangulated, sharp and closed.

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happens in VR wit hone hut present, or on a busy jungle map with 20 huts nearby

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Fantastic, its all in the game now Thanks for all your help @bold flare

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 6:17 PM

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Rob, are you on maximum graphics settings?

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you could try delete half the SV0 mesh (half the face count) and check if it still behaves the same - maybe it's the amount of faces that let the algorithm go "nope, wont use that"

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 6:52 PM

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So I cant seem to get the textures to load as it just puts a white one over it, they work fine on the model in the object builder, Im guessing its part of the config that I have to change so that it doesnt change them, which part would it be?

minor jasper Jun 27, 2018, 7:25 PM

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@woeful viper it's odd i tried on lowest and highest settings and it only shows SV10.

woeful viper Jun 27, 2018, 7:26 PM

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might the algorithm screwing with you saying "nope, 900 faces too much for my liking, so i use SV10 instead"

minor jasper Jun 27, 2018, 7:28 PM

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yea hok i'll tr yand reduce SV0 to just above SV10, but with something obvious in it, and see what happens - it's very peculiar t ohappen on every single building

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same in dev branch or stable

quick terrace Jun 27, 2018, 7:36 PM

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what is the amount of vertices, not faces for that SVLod 0?

tough sinew Jun 27, 2018, 7:42 PM

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As in config channel no one answers, let me ask here, is there any way to see reflectors in bulldozer in objectbuilder?

stuck oyster Jun 27, 2018, 7:46 PM

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I recall they dont work in BZ

tough sinew Jun 27, 2018, 7:47 PM

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😦

tough sinew Jun 27, 2018, 8:51 PM

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and reflector can be hhidden with a selection?

hollow fulcrum Jun 27, 2018, 9:05 PM

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yes

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generally speaking

tough sinew Jun 27, 2018, 9:39 PM

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speaking?

molten thunder Jun 27, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Its a phrase, like yeah normally

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:36 AM

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If I have my facts right (for a change), Bis also moved goalposts on reflectors and they are either no longer cfgNonAiVehicles, or the class has changed for A3. Point being, whatever we've contributed in the past to the biki is no longer valide.

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re pboProject not finding makepbo: FREE TOOLS ONLY

for some reason I don't recall, for some people using win10 (not all), you need to installe makepbo TWICE. It's something to do with a change to the registry hive for HKLM vs HKCU. It will be fixed on the next release of free tools. (subscribers already had the patch two days after I released the free versions. Murphy's law strikes again)

ebon abyss Jun 28, 2018, 7:34 AM

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same with win 7 64bit

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 9:31 AM

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@quick terrace sampled 3 models with the same problem SV0 has

700 pts 1140 faces
193 pts 340 faces
528 pts 936 faces

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never see nbefore the selection of SV10 over SV0 on EVERY model we edited...

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seems really weird

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 9:35 AM

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if SV10 is removed does SV0 then work?

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:36 AM

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that's a good point - will test later. i'm wondering if we need t omigrate al lthe lods to a new p3d file shell

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as they were made over 10 years ago

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

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these are structures?

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

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yes houses

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

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weird indeed

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:37 AM

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ok was just checking if anyone had this experience

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i'm thinking OLD models might have some old shite inside the p3d we can't see

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it's happend before lol

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:38 AM

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might be worth copy pasting everyhing in a new p3d

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:39 AM

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not specifically this issue, but i've had to migrate some of these old structures t oa new p3d to prevent CTDs

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:39 AM

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what are the named props again?

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:39 AM

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yeah will try that wit hone ofthem and see if it fixes the issue

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map house
class house
sbsource shadowvolume
prefershadowvolume 1
placement vertical

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the yeach have a SV0 and SV10 with no props

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and all vis lods have lodnoshadow 1

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shadow volumes are closed, triangulated and sharp

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and generally look like they should work

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there's a slim possibility tha tthe models were debinarized 6 years ago, but it's only slim

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so i ntha tcase the models would have broken geometry as each "cube" becomes "6 separate squares" kinda thing

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in the vis lods

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:42 AM

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use prefershadowvolume 0

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that is where the issue is

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:43 AM

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how does it work?

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:43 AM

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that named prop is not binary, so 0 is not false and 1 true

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but actually prefershadowvolume 0 points to svlod 0

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:44 AM

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prefershadowvolume=
Choose which shadow casting technique will be used. 0 = Shadow Buffer; 1 = Shadow Volume

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:44 AM

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nope

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that is sbsource

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:44 AM

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i thought 0 meant it would choose any vis lods without lodnoshadow 1

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Oxygen_2_-_Manual#Geometry_.28model.29_named_property

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is wiki wrong again (sigh) lol

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i thought we were trying to force the engine to choose the SV instead of trying to make a shadow fro mthe vis lods

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to be more efficient

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:46 AM

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i am telling you how i set up all my structure models 😉 my own and the one i did for apex

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do try it

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:46 AM

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yep understood mate. i'm jus tasking if the wiki is wrong

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will of course try it!

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:46 AM

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most likely

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 10:46 AM

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noooo how could that beeee

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 10:47 AM

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lol

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thanks guys, really helpful as always - will report back

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😃

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:47 AM

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https://resources.bisimulations.com/wiki/Models#Buildings:

Models

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there is another BISIM page with more info but i cannot find it on my phone right now

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 10:50 AM

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https://resources.bisimulations.com/wiki/Models#Named_Properties

Models

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doesnt seem to mentiom preferredshadowvolume

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:52 AM

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yeah not this one

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😄

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also i see there is no mention of visualx thing

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 10:52 AM

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shadow volume general guidelines has this:

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no properties needed in visual lods
geometry lod has named property "sbsource=shadowvolume"
geometry lod has named property "prefershadowvolume=0"
there should be at least two sv lods, 0.000 for normal high detail and 10.000 for medium detail which should be around 500 triangles.```

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 10:56 AM

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yeah

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 10:56 AM

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cant seem to find much anything about the sbsource = visualex

minor jasper Jun 28, 2018, 11:02 AM

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ok perfec tthanks

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 12:03 PM

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visualex is the one where it ends up looking all stripey i think - i couldnt live with that

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 12:04 PM

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same is for SVLod in certain cases

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 12:04 PM

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but you can control it (by shrinking SV lod) to get rid of that

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 12:05 PM

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true

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:31 PM

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visualex works better for massive objects though

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in my tests anyway

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:46 PM

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I hhave a problem with reflectors can anyone help me please 😄

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:47 PM

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depends what kind of problem it is.

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:49 PM

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I have a police car, when I turn the police lights the lightbar start to shine and there are 2 reflectors showing

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like normal lightbars

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the problem is that the selection on those reflectors are called "arcus" and there is no arcus named selection anywhere

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but the lights works

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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where is this "arcus" defined?

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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model.cfg

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only

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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then that wont affect anything really

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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skeletonbones

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at the end "arcus", ""

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:51 PM

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if its not used anywhere

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:51 PM

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and Ingame If i turn lights on, i can see the lights only when is ON

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 1:51 PM

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a bone is a named selection.

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:51 PM

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I assume you have not made this car

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 1:51 PM

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in a model.cfg, bis binarise ignores ALL 'bones' that don't actually correspond to a previousl;y named, named selection.

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:52 PM

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its from my comunity, im redoing some things

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:52 PM

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is there an animation for it?

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:52 PM

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yes

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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paste your model.cfg please.

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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ok

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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you probably have that selection in the memory lod

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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obviously not directly into here.

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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so it hides the reflector memorypoints

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:53 PM

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Ive searched in all lods

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and there is no arcus

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its arcus_and more thhings

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like arcus_right

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https://pastebin.com/MHXsdyRe

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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yeah the "arcus" has nothing to do with the light hiding

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its some sort of rotating thing

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the other "arcus_aisghjaoihgahg" stuff are the lights

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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but its working XD

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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yes

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as I said

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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                color[]     = {0, 0, 2500};   
                ambient[]   = {5, 5, 5};       
                position    = "arcus_azul_der_start";
                direction   = "arcus_azul_der_end"; 
                hitpoint    = "arcus_azul_der_hitpoint";
                selection   = "arcus";       
                size        = 1.25;          
                innerAngle    = 150;          
                outerAngle    = 170;        
                coneFadeCoef  = 4;           
                intensity     = 1;           
                useFlare      = 1;        
                dayLight      = 0;       
                flareSize     = 1.0;         
                
                class Attenuation {
                    start       = 1.0;
                    constant    = 0;
                    linear      = 0;
                    quadratic   = 0.25;
                    hardLimitStart  = 30;   
                    hardLimitEnd  = 65;   
                };
            };
            
            
            class arcus_izquierda1: arcus_derecha1
            {
                position  = "arcus_azul_izq_start";
                direction   = "arcus_azul_izq_end";
                hitpoint  = "arcus_azul_izq_hitpoint";
                selection   = "arcus";
            };
            
            
            
            class arcus_derecha2: arcus_derecha1
            {
                position    = "arcus_azul_der_start_1";  
                direction     = "arcus_azul_der_end_1"; 
                hitpoint    = "arcus_azul_der_hitpoint_1";      
                selection   = "arcus";
            };```

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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teh "arcus" selection does nothing

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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the hitpoints also doesnt exist

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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well if a selection does not exist it defaults to [0,0,0]

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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hmmm

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could be

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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no

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it is

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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ah hahaha

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so the thing is

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What is making those lights to be hidden

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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the classes with type = "hide"

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I would assume

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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but its a reflector

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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no, it's a 'named selection'

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:01 PM

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as far as I know the memory points are affected with that type of animation too

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:01 PM

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hmm

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look @sturdy parcel

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:02 PM

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it's simply a named selection, first and foremost, used as a reflector. but that should not affect the charactersitics of damageHide

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:02 PM

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So

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What links the light to the named selection

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the hitpoints?

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:03 PM

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the bone names.

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...which become classes (inside the model cfg)

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:03 PM

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I sorry for being a bit stupid hahaha

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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you don't sound stupid to me.

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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position = "arcus_azul_der_start"; direction = "arcus_azul_der_end";

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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those are hitpoints

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in memory

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points*

sturdy parcel Jun 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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ah, i apologize, they are mempoints. (normally seen in the use of door activations)

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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yes

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I know, im not moving anything

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:05 PM

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you have few hundred lines of hide animation classes in the model,cfg to hide these

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:05 PM

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I have the selection to hide and show the selections in the light bar

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and somehow when activating those, arefector comes out

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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you hide the reflector memory points

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they dont show

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you unhide them

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they show

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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ahh

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le me test

tough sinew Jun 28, 2018, 2:36 PM

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nope

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if i hide the hitpoint, light is not hiding

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😦

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 2:52 PM

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@stuck oyster what do you mean by visualex working better on large objects?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:52 PM

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well I've had shadows work longer distance on tall 90m+ objects

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with it

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 2:53 PM

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so you mean SV dissappears too soon?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:53 PM

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yeah

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 2:53 PM

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hm...

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:53 PM

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also my walker legs neede visualex

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as they are character

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and SV seems to draw very small on them

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visualex draws it fully

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 2:54 PM

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do you have the stripe problem on it?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:55 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/363127001999212544/461291826477924363/unknown.png

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yeah it seems to be present

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 2:56 PM

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i hate the stripes, it looks so awefull 😦 Walking on tanoa all i see is those stupid stripes

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 2:56 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I dont pay that much attention to them xD

agile flint Jun 28, 2018, 3:34 PM

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I've honestly never noticed them

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Apart from in this channel haha

cinder pivot Jun 28, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Is visualex bad for vehicles/performance?

eager trail Jun 28, 2018, 5:48 PM

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How close to the buldozer view should my textures look? They seem to look a lot better in buldozer than they do in-game.

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or just need to tweak my textures/rvmat.

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 6:00 PM

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the OB buldozer uses the old lighting so there may be some differences

eager trail Jun 28, 2018, 6:06 PM

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That would explain it, thanks for your help.

obtuse rain Jun 28, 2018, 6:08 PM

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Matt: Are you using Substance Painter?

eager trail Jun 28, 2018, 6:09 PM

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yes

sudden chasm Jun 28, 2018, 6:19 PM

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I don't suppose anyone knows of a way to have non clutter object inherit color from a terrains sat map?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 6:22 PM

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no way to do so

lusty ginkgo Jun 28, 2018, 6:46 PM

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has anyone tried using the terrain .rvmat shaders on regular objects?

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if so, what were the results?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 6:54 PM

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As far as I know it does not work

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been a while since I messed with it though

lusty ginkgo Jun 28, 2018, 6:59 PM

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damn

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 7:00 PM

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might have even crashed the game

lusty ginkgo Jun 28, 2018, 7:01 PM

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I remember setting an object to use the materials with hidden selections in a mission and I think it crashed the game so that probably is the case

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 8:30 PM

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I wish BI would make a super multi-material shader with more than 4 materials and a enviro map cough @woeful tartan cough

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It would be interesting to see what someone could do with terrain shaders on objects though. Maybe it'll work in buldozer.

thin salmon Jun 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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Does anyone know where to find to find a good arma player model for blender? I want one for scaling

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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if i had to choose i think i would prefer having parallax/displacement map effect for super and multimat shader over super-multi-mat tbh

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 8:52 PM

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The A3 samples should have something you can import

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Or, how about a super, duper multimaterial shader with everything! Muhahaha

woeful viper Jun 28, 2018, 8:54 PM

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with everything, including worse performance duh 😛

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 8:55 PM

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The multi kind of sucks in the shadows. The normal super shader uses the enviro to make the normal "pop" in the shadows.

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 8:59 PM

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what?

median bough Jun 28, 2018, 9:00 PM

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@thin salmon
You could also check the arma2 public data pack for models

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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@quick terrace ?

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 9:01 PM

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@thin salmon macsers arma rig or Arma samples from steam

thin salmon Jun 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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I've tried arma3 samples but it always pops errors

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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You might be trying to import the max file

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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how did you try it

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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you need someone to convert it to obj or .p3d

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sorry, .3ds

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 9:02 PM

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@thin salmon get FHQToolbox addon for blender and import the p3d

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simple as that

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:04 PM

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You might be able to open the sample model in object builder and export it as an .fbx or .3ds and import that into blender

stuck oyster Jun 28, 2018, 9:05 PM

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that works too

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but why not just get the toolbox addon and use p3d directly

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and get rid of the middle step

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like a pro xD

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🙈

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I don't use blender so I don't know anything about FHQT, but I would definitely recommend it @thin salmon

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 9:13 PM

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The multi kind of sucks in the shadows. The normal super shader uses the enviro to make the normal "pop" in the shadows.
can you rephrase?

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@formal vapor

thin salmon Jun 28, 2018, 9:14 PM

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well attempt no.1 with FHQ was interesting
https://i.gyazo.com/1af9aab07ea7735efe7f144d25071faa.png

formal vapor Jun 28, 2018, 9:18 PM

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With the multi-material shader the normal map doesn't show in the shadows. I would guess that's because the light source isn't shining on the specular map since it's in the shadow. With the super shader though you can still view the enviro-map, which apparently is affected by the normal map.

quick terrace Jun 28, 2018, 11:49 PM

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hmm, need to check that

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because that is not how i remember it behaving at all. you using a proper ADS for that multi?

olive quiver Jun 29, 2018, 1:25 AM

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hey guys, got a (possibly dumb) question. in O2 how would i find a memory points x,y,z location?
for a bit of context, im trying to get a model to be towable with leesh's tow mod and untill i figure out how to get it to lock onto memory points i need to find its coordinates

stuck oyster Jun 29, 2018, 1:42 AM

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does the memorypoint have named selection?

olive quiver Jun 29, 2018, 2:27 AM

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yep sure does

stuck oyster Jun 29, 2018, 2:35 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/selectionPosition

selectionPosition

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/modelToWorld

modelToWorld

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use these

formal vapor Jun 29, 2018, 2:57 AM

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@quick terrace You're more than welcome to take a look if you like, but that's what's happening for me. If you know a secret please do share.

olive quiver Jun 29, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Awesome, cheers

formal vapor Jun 29, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I can put something together and send it over.

quick terrace Jun 29, 2018, 10:55 AM

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neah i can test that on my own (the fact that normal maps are no visible in shadows)

agile zenith Jun 29, 2018, 7:26 PM

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Hey can someone explain to me how to "smooth" a object. I used to just throw a subsurf modifier on it but it increases the poly count too much. But i recently found a model for a balloon in arma that has even less poly's then my mesh but somehow is totally smooth? Pictures: https://gyazo.com/ff8f2a58e9aaabab1ce8d59c3a08c681 https://gyazo.com/f2d5a6cd715b1ce6400f2b7e4b8e69d2

stuck oyster Jun 29, 2018, 7:27 PM

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@agile zenith

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https://blenderartists.org/t/soft-edge-hard-edge-how-to/590897

Blender Artists Community

Soft edge hard edge, how to?

How to make soft edges in blender? I want smooth the following identified edges.(I don’t want to use edge split.)

agile zenith Jun 29, 2018, 7:28 PM

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Oh god, thanks! I was looking at the wrong places the entire time.

stuck oyster Jun 29, 2018, 7:28 PM

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well that was just the first page to come up in google

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so I figured perhaps its ok

agile zenith Jun 29, 2018, 7:29 PM

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I was looking at http://friedenhq.org/arma-ii/using-the-fhq-arma-toolbox-for-blender/ and the subsurf modifier page

stuck oyster Jun 29, 2018, 7:30 PM

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ye its more in the basic model stuff sector that one

viral cradle Jun 29, 2018, 9:14 PM

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@agile zenith Unless you're planning to bake details to a lower poly model, then there's no need to use subsurf. If you want edges that aren't razor sharp you could try the bevel modifier. It'll take a bit of practice though. I suggest doing a bit of research on it.

quick terrace Jun 29, 2018, 11:11 PM

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always bake them details ^

lusty ginkgo Jun 29, 2018, 11:34 PM

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for beveling edges I find it a bit easier to just make a selection and do them in edit mode in blender

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you'll have to remember the size though if you want to add more later

lusty ginkgo Jun 29, 2018, 11:53 PM

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do the fogMode and mainLight parameters in .rvmats apply to all shaders?

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Please help me, Im apparently retarded 😦 I have arma toolbox for blender. I open blender, and I create a cube. I check the arma object box to make it an arma object. I export to p3d in a folder P:\myaddon\export.p3d Then I open the p3d in the Object builder, it appears to open the file, but the cube isnt there.... Help?

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there is also no object in the middle list box, just 1.000 in the top right one

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:48 AM

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that's odd

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try ctrl + a and applying all the transforms first

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Ty for response! Well I didnt do any transforms to it

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I literally pressed shit+a

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exported

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well after checking the arma box

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Ive been at this for days, and I cant find out what im doing wrong

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:51 AM

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honestly I don't know why that might be happening

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have you tried checking the selection only box when exporting?

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:52 AM

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I will try that now

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https://image.ibb.co/kZ9ABd/obuilder.jpg

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That is the result in object builder

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:53 AM

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it says there are points and faces

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maybe it is the scale?

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might be massive or something

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Im new to object builder, how can I rescale it in there?

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:55 AM

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the scale shouldn't be different than it is in blender which is odd

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ctrl + a to select all, points, transform 3d, scale

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:56 AM

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nothing

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tried .2 scale up to 20 scale

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:56 AM

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try clicking the yellow 'X' button at the top

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:57 AM

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Use Direct3d. Tried it, no changes

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I am just at a loss because I dont know if its an export problem, a blender problem, an import problem or a object builder problem

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It says it has 8 points, 6 faces, etc

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 12:59 AM

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well it seems to be loading into OB if the info in the corner is any indication so I don't think it is import/export

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yeah

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if you create a shape within OB does that show up?

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Im sorry this is such a pain, and you have no idea how much i appreciate your help!

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I will be honest, I dont know how

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oh nvm

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yes

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i create a box, it makes a box with a pink checkerboard

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:01 AM

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try pressing f5 to recalculate normals

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:01 AM

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no changes

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well it added recalc normals to the history box

drowsy osprey Jun 30, 2018, 1:02 AM

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ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:02 AM

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@drowsy osprey NICE! i dig it

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:02 AM

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try creating something in OB and importing the p3d into blender

drowsy osprey Jun 30, 2018, 1:03 AM

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stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:03 AM

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@ruby dragon what does it say the cubes dimensions are in Blender

drowsy osprey Jun 30, 2018, 1:03 AM

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ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Radius: 10m

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:03 AM

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📎 unknown.png

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:04 AM

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all is same as yours but unit scale is 0.01

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:04 AM

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yea that probably breaks it

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why have you set it so?

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:04 AM

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I didnt

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I legit, just created a cube and exported it

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:05 AM

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by default it should be 1

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Your guess is as good as mine

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:05 AM

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well set it to 1

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:05 AM

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When I do that, the Dimensions circled in your pic change from 2m to 200m

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:05 AM

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yep

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your cube is there in OB

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its just 200m in size

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and OB has trouble showing large stuff like that in the viewport

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:06 AM

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thats what I thought might be the issue

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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yep

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usually it is just that

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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Now when i try to open in OB it says "Unable to load file. Load error."

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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did you actually preview when scaling down earlier?

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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never seen anyone having unit scale messed up tho

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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all i did was set scale to 1 and change 200m to 20m

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:07 AM

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in blender its usually 1:1 with the tools so that is odd

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:08 AM

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@ruby dragon you may need to restart blender

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sometimes the p3d gets stuck in the plugin

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close OB

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:08 AM

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ok

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:08 AM

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and blender

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and start them again

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:09 AM

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ok

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:09 AM

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and re expot

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also

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when you edit the unitscale and stuff to be correct

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save the startup file again

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:10 AM

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restarted, it did it again

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:10 AM

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so you always get the right settings

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:10 AM

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scale .01

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ahh ok

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:10 AM

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yes Blender opens a startup Blend where all the settings are stored

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:13 AM

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hey it works!

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now, lets see if i can get it to drop using eden

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:15 AM

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one of the most common problems I have encountered modelling for anything is inconsistent scale so if you have similar issues that should be the first thing you check

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and of course apply the scale transfomation in blender before you export

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:16 AM

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I LOVE YOU GUYS!!! ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

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it drops in the 3den editor WOOOT

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:16 AM

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glad it works

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:16 AM

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ty soo much!

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now if its not too much to ask please, check my math here. All i need to do for texture/material is to create one in blender for it, export that, convert to .paa, set it as the texture in the arma toolbox in blender, and export yes?

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:18 AM

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well yes

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:19 AM

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you need a texture (.paa) and a material (.rvmat) and in the .rvmat you configure the normal map texture and that sort of thing

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but yeah

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:19 AM

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wel idk what an rvmat is and the instructions with arma toolbox said it was optional?

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:19 AM

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just look at vanilla .rvmat files for reference

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it's optional in the toolset

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but your object will look odd without one in game

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:20 AM

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well

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shit

lusty ginkgo Jun 30, 2018, 1:21 AM

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a3\data_f\default.rvmat Just set it to that in object builder if you don't want to make a custom one

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:21 AM

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ok

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ty

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https://www.allegorithmic.com/buy/indie

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is this the surface painter people are often using in tut vids?

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Like.. its priced the same as an Adobe app per month... thats insane

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 AM

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welllll you could get only the substance painter I suppose

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but its not a mandatory tool

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its just popular right now

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:47 AM

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ah ok

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So goat. I added a material and made no changes, then i added a texture. I loaded a jpg image to use as the texture. Can you tell me how to get this to the paa that i need to put into the material box?

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:51 AM

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there are converter tools for that in the ArmaTools package. Either texview or the newer ImageToPaa

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 1:52 AM

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OH I just need to convert the image im using for a texture and remove the texture in blender!

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:56 AM

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also look up the sizer rules textures have

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and dont use jpg if possible

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its not very good texture format

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 2:10 AM

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does the paa need included in the pbo ? WORKING: P:\myaddon\thing.p3d P:\myaddon\tex.paa DONE: @Mod \objects\thing.p3d

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in the editor it says error: myaddon\tex.paa not found. I tried addint myaddon\tex.paa to the pbo

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didnt work ive got that paths wrong?

ruby dragon Jun 30, 2018, 4:41 AM

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Anyone?

strong plaza Jun 30, 2018, 6:38 AM

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try removing P:\ from your path

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:14 AM

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can somebody explain to me why glass gets all funky after triangulating a model?
before triangulating:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i04l7vijp5g0i66/20180630121146_1.jpg?dl=0
after:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3p8zt12rzeps96k/20180630121140_1.jpg?dl=0

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:18 AM

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@timber cobalt pretty weird that the UVs get fubared. do you triangulate a mesh that has normals maps baked?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:19 AM

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the glass itself has no normals, but the stuff under the glass does

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oh that is not entierly correct. my glass has normals too. I use vanilla rvmat for the glass

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:22 AM

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are the faces on your islands not welded (the vertices)

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:25 AM

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you mean if they are loose?

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this is my UV map

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/d5w9oij8fato94x/Untitled.png?dl=0

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:31 AM

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there are cases (i know it happened to me)

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where the faces are not welded to other faces, inside the UV islands

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in my case, as a 3ds max user, there was a UVW script that was causing it

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so each individual face was indeed unwrapped, but each was on itself an islands

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quick fix was welding all vertices with a small distance threshold

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:33 AM

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🤔

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:34 AM

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other than that i have no idea what could be causing it, because i never actually had that sort of issue. but do check your UVs after triangulating (inside oxygen i assume you are doing it)

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:34 AM

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I do it in blender

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but I kinda found a fix for it. Faces->Move top in Object builder on the glass selection

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:36 AM

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you have overlapping UV islands as far as i can see

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:36 AM

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but then if I triangulate it, I get these lines

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mrjobx4ffitke8/20180630123440_1.jpg?dl=0

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yeah that I do. I have some mesh that are sharing UV space

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:37 AM

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do you have some other mesh behind that stop (glass selection)?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:38 AM

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you mean in the UV map?

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:38 AM

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no, i mean a mesh behind that stop

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also, yeah, is that area overlapped in the UV?

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try an f5 on that glass selection (recalculating normals)

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:39 AM

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the glass is on its own UV map with nothing under it. but Im not sure what you mean by "stop"

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f5 in Object builder right?

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:39 AM

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back light whatever

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f5 in oxygen yes

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:39 AM

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ok

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:40 AM

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can you grab a screenshot from OB in that area?

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wireframe?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:41 AM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/d5w9oij8fato94x/Untitled.png?dl=0

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I really suck using Oxygen. I do almost everything in Blender -_-

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f5 didnt do anything. The normals was already recalculated in blender

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Dont know why "Faces->move top" in object builder kinda fixes that funkyness

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But I still see that line from when its triangulated

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:48 AM

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because that is how alpha works

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Guess I can triangulate everything except the glass piece to get around it. Still bothers me though

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:48 AM

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from that image i am not sure if the line is from the back stop light or from the glass on top of it

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it is mandatory to triangulate stuff when you want to bake normals

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instead of tringulating that face on auto, see if you can connect the other 2 verts (the top left to bottom right diagonal)

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manually

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:51 AM

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You mean connect the glass piece to the body? Atm the glass is a separate mesh

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:54 AM

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nope

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i mean connecting the other 2 vertices

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the face before triangulating is most likely a quad

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you can have 2 triangles in a quad, depending on diagonal (left right, right left)

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Oh yes it is quad

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Like making an x

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Gonna try

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 10:57 AM

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i have no other ideas tbh

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it is a shading issue in relation to normals afaik

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 10:59 AM

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Alright thanks so far

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 11:46 AM

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is the edge between the faces sharp or soft?

quick terrace Jun 30, 2018, 11:54 AM

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oh yeah, sharpness as well

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:33 PM

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@stuck oyster soft

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:34 PM

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do both faces have same material and texture?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:36 PM

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Same material, different textures

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:38 PM

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different texture on both faces of the glass surface?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:40 PM

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I think I forgot to say this, but I have 2 glass textures here. One that covers the whole lense thing, and one under it on the lense itself

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The cover uses a light grey texture with alpha

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The one below is red with alpha

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 1:43 PM

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if you hide/remove the red one is the line still visible?

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or you could sort the red glass part on top

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then the whole cover

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:44 PM

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Ok gonna try. Not home atm

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Ill let you know how it goes

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 1:52 PM

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Hello

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I think this is the right place to ask

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Does anyone have a comprehensive guide on how to import a model into A3?

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Im talking start to finish (excluding the moddeling)

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I have some models that I would like to import into the game

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Scripting and stuff should be no problem but every tutorial seems to be different

bold flare Jun 30, 2018, 1:53 PM

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What kind of model? Just a static object?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:58 PM

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@edgy yew you could have a look at some of my videos

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKCLIs1vgjwRdrAoJKzRmkKvcpVwnK2TK

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 PM

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@timber cobalt thanks, I might try a helicopter later

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Or this by sokolonko

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/278668437

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I have a tutorial for a door in there too

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 2:00 PM

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isn't flight physics hard to setup tho?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Yeah true you should start with a plain static object

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 2:23 PM

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I have this

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Stationary Artillery model

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and anohter stationary AA rocket

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should I try those first?

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 2:24 PM

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So you just want them as props for starters?

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 2:27 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/207631-from-blender-to-arma-3-complete-process-tutorial/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

From Blender to ArmA 3 - Complete process tutorial

Hello,

 



As I had many requests, I did this all-in-one tutorial I am sharing today. I hope it will be helpful to you.



All important stages are...

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this could be useful too

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@edgy yew expect that you will not find full step by step guide though for everything so you will need to figure stuff out (like the physx) by looking into the Arma3 sample models and BI wikipages and BI forum

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

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also the top 2 links here show how to easily set up the tools and development environment (P: drive) right

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 3:24 PM

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@timber cobalt I have a few models, I want to import them into A3 and eventually make them work properrly and compile them into a pack

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The models are pretty much done, but now I have to import and configure them

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I have a few weapons, vehicle(s) , and some static launchers and turrets

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 3:27 PM

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ok gl. I think you'll find alot of useful stuff in the tutorials posted

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 3:29 PM

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got any pics @edgy yew

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been a while since we've seen new stuff around here

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 3:29 PM

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Idk if I can share pictures

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need to look that up

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but for example

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the static launcher

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is a copy of this one

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 3:30 PM

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you can share links

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cant directly share images unless you have veteran status

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 3:30 PM

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the launcher is a copy of this one

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http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/Mk-141-launcher_DAT/Mk-141-launcher-005.jpg

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 3:30 PM

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but for instance if you have sent a pic to someone on discord you can use that link here too

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 3:31 PM

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I don't want redundant stuff what other mods already have

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but just as I wanted to use this model to test import

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BI announces jets bonus DLC with one of these

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but I still plan on doing it I guess

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if I can everything to work

timber cobalt Jun 30, 2018, 3:45 PM

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@stuck oyster @quick terrace it works now for some reason. Not exactly sure what did it. I re-UV mapped the glass and put faces on top

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I also reapplied the glass material

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:02 PM

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yo

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how do I rotate in object builder

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I need to turn the actual object and not tilt/change the camera angle

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https://imgur.com/a/QDSmkdD

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In front view

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I want the butt stock to be on the left side and the barrel facing to the right

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nvr mind I got it

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:16 PM

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@edgy yew what do you model with? I would probably be easier to make everything ready outside of OB

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Its ready

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im trying to import it now

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:19 PM

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well for the future at least could be worthwhile to make everything ready before taking stuff to OB

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:19 PM

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this is my first time doing this, According to the tutorial the weapon should be like that in the "front view" in OB

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:19 PM

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also if you happen to model in Blender you can use ArmaToolbox plugin to do almost everything in Blender and export directyl into p3d

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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wait seriously

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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yes

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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the models I have are for 3DS Max

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and some .obj

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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you did not make them then?

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:20 PM

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I almost never work with blender

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im more familliar with 3DS Max

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:21 PM

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well then you got to do it the traditional way

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:21 PM

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familliar meaning I have watched a few more tutorials on 3ds max

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I can try to import them into blender and then directly into a p3d right

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:21 PM

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word of caution though about using models from the interwebs. Make sure they are not ripped from some other game

edgy yew Jun 30, 2018, 6:22 PM

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IIRC ripped models can only be used privately right

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distributing them on the steam workshop is insta ban or not

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doesnt that chinese guy that makes KA weapons pack rips some of his stuff

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he uploads them once in a while and tells his subscribers to quickly make a local copy before it gets removed

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but then again I don't copyright translates into chinese

stuck oyster Jun 30, 2018, 6:26 PM

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Endorsing any ripping is morally wrong and will have other consequenses in the community if you get caught using them

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you dont for example see mr KA here

oblique vapor Jun 30, 2018, 8:32 PM

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Hey, looking for someone to do a rigging job of a character mesh. DM if interested

bold flare Jun 30, 2018, 8:36 PM

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@oblique vapor #creators_recruiting

oblique vapor Jun 30, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Oh wasn't aware of that channel, thanks

edgy yew Jul 1, 2018, 12:18 AM

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does anyone know

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how to import P3D files into blender

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do i need an extension from somewhere

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:20 AM

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Arma toolbox

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Plugin for blender that will allow you to import and export

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So um, with blender, how do we setup collision?

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 AM

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for Arma?

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Yes

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 AM

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like in OB

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Ive got my object in the editor

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 AM

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make a geometry object

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:29 AM

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but players can walk through it

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:29 AM

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it still needs to adhere to the same Geometry rules arma has

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all parts of the geometry lod must be convex

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must have mass

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and must be named componentXXX

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:30 AM

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It has a mass, its set to 1, but there is a mass

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:30 AM

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what type of object is it?

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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joined planes

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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why is the mass 1

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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idk

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just getting everything to work

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it doesnt move at all

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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and what do you mean joined planes?

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what does your geometry look like?

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:31 AM

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tbh im not so much worried about the collision per se, but i cant get any menus to pop up

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create a plane, duplicate it and rotate 180 on z. join them. duplicate that, rotate 90 on z, join that

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well flip normals in there too

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:33 AM

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no that does not work

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Shows up in game properly

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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I did not mean the vis lod

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but the geometry lod

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what do you have there?

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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just left the arma toolbox default

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:34 AM

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do you have a mesh in the geometry lod?

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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i have no idea

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its just a transparent png texture on a plane

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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then you probably do not

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mesh = object

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3d model

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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yes

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and all i did was create it, check arma object

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thats it

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:35 AM

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then you have the resolution lod for it

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which is the parts you can see

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you also need separate lods for different functions of the game object

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like collision needs geometryLOD

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD

LOD

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also

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if you dont already have them

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get the Arma 3 samples from steam

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and look how they are made

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:37 AM

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so in blender, where does one see/set the lods?

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of the mesh

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:37 AM

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arma properties tab

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:37 AM

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well all it has is LOD Preset which is set to custom

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:37 AM

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yes

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:37 AM

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and custom distance is 1

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1.00 to be precise

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:38 AM

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that is the "resolution" lod 1.00

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you go read that link now

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then look at what that particular dropdown menu in arma properties offers

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in Blender it works by having a separate object for each lod you want to export

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:39 AM

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and what if i only need 1?

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Its such a simple object there would be no gain on lowering it a further distances

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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then you dont need more

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simple as that

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but if you want collisions or shadows then you need to make those too

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:40 AM

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hmm. well i do remember i read that before and it said something about geometry physX

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but when i click that from the dropdown, there is only 1 thing to set and that is the mass

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If this matters, Im trying to use just blender. Not use OB at all

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is that my problem? I hate that thing

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:42 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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no you just dont click around enough

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:43 AM

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hmmm i dont have that

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nvm mins just inverted to yours

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:43 AM

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and in arma modding if you want to get anything really done you got to let go of any silly hate about the tools

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I respect that I do. TBH, once i finish this mod, im likely to either leave Arma modding, or at least stick to code-only mods. But Ive got many hours in this one and want to finish it

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:44 AM

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when you have 4 years+ into a mod we can talk about hours.

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:45 AM

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lol no I dont have 4 years, but still dont wanna scrap a project if i can avoid it

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graphics / modeling arent my strong suit obviously. And if i must dabble, I need an engine thats more n00b friendly. So enabling physics on the object in blender such as collision or rigid body is useless ?

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Also, things are a bit tougher in this case, im creating an exile mod. So im creating a mod for a mod for a game lol

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:46 AM

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yes

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read the lod page

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and look up that blender to Arma tutorial post on BI forumst - editing - modeling

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Must have 'Mass' (Alt-M).

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so if it has mass, even if its low (such as 1) is that going to work?

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Or does it need higher?

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:49 AM

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no if its not the geometry lod

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Import the Arma sample house into Blender

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study that

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:51 AM

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I have but will again. How do i translate it into what needs to be put into the arma toolbox?

stuck oyster Jul 1, 2018, 12:51 AM

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when you import it with the arma toolbox p3d import it has all the arma properties set up

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for each lod it has

ruby dragon Jul 1, 2018, 12:58 AM

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Ok, thanks as always for responding Goat 😃

latent trail Jul 1, 2018, 3:48 AM

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Hey, Is there any guides for setting up hiddenselections/camo?

worldly belfry Jul 1, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Set up and name the selection in objectbuilder, add your hiddenSelections config under the class and include the sections in the model.cfg

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 6:07 AM

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best example of how-to you can get is the 5t truck or if you're old enough to remember it, the Russian Ural. Both use the same model, but cleverly hide the canopy, or the fuel bunker, or the repair tank to make them different, visual, models.

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if you don't have access to the unbinarised versions, eliteness will extract the all-important model.cfg for you, and show you the releveant lod(s) and named selections.

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so if it has mass, even if its low (such as 1) is that going to work?

as the Goat has mentioned, mass only has relevance in the 'geometry lod'. Which sounds fine, but which geometry lod <grin>. If you only have one visual lod in the p3d, that is the geometry lod. If you have phsyx lods (two types), they and the boyancy lod is also a 'geometry' lod,. And via a mistake they made in bis binarise, mass MUST *also *be stated in these other types. While it must be present, it is not, actually, used.

outer condor Jul 1, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Vertex buffer needs to be created before rendering. Out of memory? ww2\assets_m\vehicles\planes_m\if_fw190f8.p3d
c:\bis\source\dev\futura\lib\object.cpp(2260)(func: Object::DrawSimpleInstanced)  [AssertNoDlg]  ThreadID=1148 cb.GetCB()<0```

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getting crashes with planes. any ideas what these could mean?

worn lintel Jul 1, 2018, 11:26 AM

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Hiya lads. I recently obtained permission from someone to use their model in a mod that’s in development. The issue is however he no longer has the source on his PC and the one on armaholic is binarised (as expected). I was wondering if there’s a way we can unbinarise the model ourselves?

simple lake Jul 1, 2018, 11:38 AM

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@outer condor sound like to detail LOD or Vert count in total for p3d

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i think i had when shadow lod sent total over limit or Shadow lod was to big for single lod

outer condor Jul 1, 2018, 11:43 AM

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it appears to happen actually when the plane crash

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its either the impact itself or something with the wreck model

simple lake Jul 1, 2018, 11:46 AM

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maybe wreck model is too complex or non existent

outer condor Jul 1, 2018, 12:15 PM

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thanks will do

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too complex might be

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 12:21 PM

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also check the binarise log. as noisy as it is, it's valuable info which might save you hunting where the error is happening.

outer condor Jul 1, 2018, 12:22 PM

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not much in rpt/debug.log

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 12:23 PM

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i meant the binlog that bis binarise produces.

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@worn lintel Tim Dittmar will reverse engineer the p3d for you providing you can prove ownership. Anything less than that, and no-one is interested in helping you.

worn lintel Jul 1, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Of course, where can I get in contact with Mr Dittmar?

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 12:25 PM

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he's on discord. moment....

worn lintel Jul 1, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Thanks 😃

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 12:25 PM

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@white jay

worn lintel Jul 1, 2018, 12:26 PM

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Thanks Mikero 😃

sturdy parcel Jul 1, 2018, 12:28 PM

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hayppy to help., but understand the above request and the way you phrased it is a typical ploy of the thieves. That, undoubtedly, is no fault of yours, but just be aware of the high alert status such requests make.