#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 109

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 7:34 PM

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makes your life a lot easier

late raft Mar 20, 2018, 8:09 PM

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I'll try it out.

white jay Mar 20, 2018, 8:18 PM

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Anyone here know Massi of Mas weapons fame .. ? If so reach out to him .. help him fix his mod signature probs since he updated on steam

quick terrace Mar 20, 2018, 9:10 PM

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@white jay this model makers channel mate, you lost?

white jay Mar 20, 2018, 9:15 PM

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No .. just seeing if anyone knows him as I said

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 9:17 PM

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send him a message?

white jay Mar 20, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Never mind .. no one can read lol

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 9:19 PM

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you could drop the .. and so on to make it a bit clearer. but Ok he has issues fixing his mod signatures.

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or apparently you got errors with his new signatures

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might be server addon version mismatch or server owner has not updated keys etc etc

quick terrace Mar 20, 2018, 9:24 PM

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🚓 again, why is this in model makers channel. there is a general chat for a reason...you can also use BIF to send the bloke a message etc

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 9:24 PM

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they have already messaged on massis steam workshop

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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moving on.

quick terrace Mar 20, 2018, 9:24 PM

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or that tru 😄

merry gorge Mar 20, 2018, 10:26 PM

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anyone know whats going on here? total noob
https://imgur.com/a/J87nR

timber cobalt Mar 20, 2018, 10:28 PM

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yeah

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you have an object in blender which is empty

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try to uncheck one arma lod at a time

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till you find your problem object

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/981u1emos4klc58/Untitled.png?dl=0

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 10:31 PM

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👌

timber cobalt Mar 20, 2018, 10:31 PM

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✊🏽

onyx carbon Mar 20, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Just started with modelling and still learning the basics. Got curious why these lines show up
https://gyazo.com/a2a85a2b2127a7eedec6a0ada619ed18

Its only a texture on an object without any uv mapping or anything. Simply curious why they appear

woeful viper Mar 20, 2018, 10:34 PM

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rvmat related i think (or lack thereof)

onyx carbon Mar 20, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Ah I understand, yeah there is no rvmat applied at this moment. Thank you

bleak tangle Mar 20, 2018, 10:46 PM

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I think that can also be caused by faces of the shadow LOD being too close to the visual LODs. One way to test that theory would be to disable shadows in your video settings and see if the lines still exist

stuck oyster Mar 20, 2018, 10:54 PM

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or lack of shadowlod

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I think that can happen with the sbsource that projects shadow from the visual lod

quick terrace Mar 20, 2018, 11:08 PM

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^^ precisely, nothing to do with rvmat

jolly mist Mar 20, 2018, 11:46 PM

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Really odd question but is it possible to have an animate a backpack? lol

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Im assuming no but Im not sure how that stuff works when it comes to the engine

stuck oyster Mar 21, 2018, 12:20 AM

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no

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it shares skeleton with the character and thus can only follow the character animation like uniform or vest

onyx carbon Mar 21, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Thank you all for the responses above, will try it out!
Another thing, if i'd like to use something from Laws of War and need to refrains it to the p3d in the A3 folder, what is the easiest way to find it?

stuck oyster Mar 21, 2018, 1:25 AM

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depends what do you want to use and how

onyx carbon Mar 21, 2018, 1:27 AM

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What I want to do is basically use the bodybag as an item in your bag, so referring to the model in a3 folder

stuck oyster Mar 21, 2018, 1:32 AM

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if it has config class you can trace that in the config viewer

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or use this

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getModelInfo

getModelInfo

onyx carbon Mar 21, 2018, 1:34 AM

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I see! Many thanks again!

late raft Mar 21, 2018, 2:57 PM

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The weighting issue I'm having now is.. when my character does an animation (like a pushup, perhaps) the appearance of his hands are practically perfect, yet when they are resting w/o animation (or just standing there) they look like this - https://gyazo.com/755c9367ace5bf2dcf74a1da3253dbbc

outer condor Mar 22, 2018, 5:40 AM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/215572-adjusting-ai-point-of-aim-in-tank-gunnery/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Adjusting AI point of aim in tank gunnery

Hello there, I've been making some player+AI vs AI tank-on-tank scenarios for quite some time and lately I'm getting somewhat tilted by the fact that in a...

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wasnt there some config/memory point introduced recently to adjust that?

rough idol Mar 22, 2018, 5:59 AM

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No, that new param is ai raytracing

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Aiming point is "zamerny " mém point

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SensorPos=start

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Zamerny=end

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It's sort of bad compromise since ai can fire from behind the cover but sometimes ai on the other side is not able to return fire

rough idol Mar 22, 2018, 7:38 AM

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feel free to use it on bi wiki 😛

📎 unknown.png

outer condor Mar 22, 2018, 7:53 AM

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@rough idol thanks as always! whats the consensus of Zamerny positioning - i guess BI puts it at model center, yet is this really the best approach?

rough idol Mar 22, 2018, 7:56 AM

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before recent changes it was either missing or placed on driver head (sic!)

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right now Oukej moved it a little bit below turret ring

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together with increased weapon dispersion it should give pretty decent results but it's still not perfect

past edge Mar 22, 2018, 8:47 AM

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on the infinitely small offchance that it gets considered by one of the programming gurus, I pitched an idea regarding those AI memory points in the thread kju posted

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and if not, one can dream~ 🤤

wooden osprey Mar 22, 2018, 10:54 AM

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Hey guys I need to ask I wanted to port vehicles from arms 2 to arma 3 its add-on with polish armed forces. Ok how to start because I've watched 6 tutorials and still idk what to do If I want to port

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2018, 10:59 AM

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you will want to set up your Arma tools and workspace right https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

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then you would need the models you want to port

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so you should check out https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Public_Data

Public Data

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but as you may have noticed porting anything into arma is not easy and even with Arma 2 models you cant just "throw" them in and they magically work

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they will need a lot of config work to be usable

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does CUP already have the models you want to port?

wooden osprey Mar 22, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Yea

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Yea I know but main problem is renaming it. Physyx and memory points even geometry tutorials I saw its nothing helpful I have completely wrong it because every tutorial says about cars but I need apc and tank

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Tutorials cover only the basic idea of how to do it in general, not how to do some specific model. You need to learn how Arma configs work and then use that knowledge to do what you want.

late raft Mar 22, 2018, 7:20 PM

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How would you make an insignia to put into the game?

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unless its a mission thing.

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I think it's a mission description.ext thing, mbad.

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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no im sure you can make a pbo with it and use it on custom faction etc

late raft Mar 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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yeah

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there's a config way and a description.ext way

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rather do the description.ext way tho.

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2018, 7:28 PM

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as you fish.

woeful viper Mar 22, 2018, 8:10 PM

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really? zamerny hardcoded? >.< if anything grinds my gears it is having options in config, except hardcode just ignoring it and using some czenglish stuff from ofp days...

sharp halo Mar 22, 2018, 8:11 PM

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In OB, can I copy few selections from one instance, to another, replacing the selections with same names in that one that I am copying it into? (becouse now it just adds to existing ones)

stuck oyster Mar 22, 2018, 8:14 PM

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no it wont replace

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you got to clear the old selection first

sharp halo Mar 22, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Ok got it, thanks

agile flint Mar 23, 2018, 2:35 AM

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@rough idol So what does the AI target, the zamery jazz? That got me thinking, what happens when you have a tank with really good gun depression, and the whole hull is still hidden behind the land? Ultimately means then AI will never hit you?

rough idol Mar 23, 2018, 6:12 AM

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Yes, see the picture

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Moving it to ie turret would mean it would be extremely hard to destroy if all critical hitpoints are located lower

oak lintel Mar 23, 2018, 5:10 PM

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is the shadow lod compatible with the light from the flashlight? the light from the flashlight is not correct on the models . not all models...

polar fiber Mar 23, 2018, 6:26 PM

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no, dynamic lights do not cast shadows

oak lintel Mar 23, 2018, 6:41 PM

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hmhm but work it only with the geometry?

plain jackal Mar 24, 2018, 11:17 PM

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is anyone having issues with buldozer not launching properly?

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https://i.imgur.com/1GM5NFm.png

polar fiber Mar 24, 2018, 11:21 PM

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happens to me if I don't have steam running, yes

plain jackal Mar 24, 2018, 11:29 PM

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odd

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maybe just a restart will fix it

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no luck

foggy finch Mar 25, 2018, 12:22 AM

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used to get that if the a3 launcher was running at same time as launching buldozer

fleet aurora Mar 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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This is kind of a noob question, but does anyone here know how to make vegetation sway in the wind? I'm trying to make a corn object, but it is currently stationary. I've changed the class property in the Geometry LOD to bushSoft, but when I go in game the corn doesn't sway in the wind. I know @foggy finch answered this before, but for the life of me I cant get it to move.

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 3:10 AM

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It’s a config line. https://sites.google.com/site/islandconfigs/cfgworlds-overview/cfgworlds-clutter

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affectedByWind

fleet aurora Mar 25, 2018, 3:14 AM

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would I need to make a separate clutter config, or can I just place it within the config.cpp?

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Are you using the corn as clutter?

fleet aurora Mar 25, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I am using it as an object to be placed down in xcam and terrain builder.

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Im not using it as clutter because It needs to be aligned with eachother

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Then it needs to be defined in the model config I believe.

fleet aurora Mar 25, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Would I just make a model.cfg and add the clutter config for the wind? or would it need to be defined in another way? such as a skelton/bones config?

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 3:22 AM

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I’ve only ever defined it with clutter. Haven’t gotten around to making my own trees and shrubs so you may need a more experienced modeler for the definitive answer.

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 3:49 AM

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Actually I’m wrong. https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/167570-custom-trees-and-vegetation/

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That should point you in the right direction.

fleet aurora Mar 25, 2018, 6:46 AM

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thanks for the help, I managed to get it to work when I place the object in the terrain builder, but not in the eden editor in terms of sway. that mikebarts stuff really helped me understand how everything should look like.

stuck oyster Mar 25, 2018, 7:56 AM

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clutter/map objects are configured by named properties in the geometry class

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Named_Properties#class

Named Properties

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@fleet aurora

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notice the bush/tree-soft/hard classes

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terrain objects and scenario objects do not always behave the same

foggy finch Mar 25, 2018, 12:00 PM

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^this, they dont have a unique cfgvehicles config class entry because all of their animations (wind sway etc) are done by the engine using the baked in named properties,. if you are loading them via cfgvehicles class in xcam/whatever, chances are they wont sway as per a map baked object.

rough idol Mar 25, 2018, 12:45 PM

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@foggy finch - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV4Sww0yC9s those parameters are working for even proxies - i moved antennas to separate p3d and added that parameter to geo lod

YouTube

Red Hammer Studios

Gaz-66 R-142 deployment showcase

▶ Play video

foggy finch Mar 25, 2018, 12:45 PM

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neat

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best post a WIP render since im here, enjoy -> https://imageshack.com/a/img922/9295/qnruh0.png

pale quartz Mar 25, 2018, 2:24 PM

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@fleet aurora glad I was able to be helpful.

onyx carbon Mar 25, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Alt + L ?

vernal lynx Mar 25, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Object::Intersect bme 1.#R,1.#R,1.#R normal

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does this RPT entry talks to anyone ?

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I have weird twinkling faces

strong plaza Mar 25, 2018, 5:10 PM

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is there a penetration material for bricks/cinderblocks?

median bough Mar 25, 2018, 5:46 PM

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This maybe?
a3\data_f\penetration\building.rvmat

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@strong plaza

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a3\data_f\penetration\concrete.rvmat

agile jackal Mar 25, 2018, 5:48 PM

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(No points in mesh Model) Dose anyone know how i could fix this?

bleak tangle Mar 25, 2018, 5:54 PM

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This cinderblock building (House_Small_02_F) uses building_plate.rvmat https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/images/a/a8/Land_House_Small_02_F.jpg

strong plaza Mar 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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cool, thanks!

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also, are penetration materials supposed to be applied to the fire or view lod? in the sample it looks like they're applied to the view lod

bleak tangle Mar 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Does the sample model have a fire geometry LOD?
My understanding of it is:
Only geometry -> geometry is used for view and fire
Geometry and view -> view is used for fire
Geometry and fire -> geometry is used for view

strong plaza Mar 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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aha

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it has no fire lod

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so I guess it defaults to the view lod then

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uh

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I was looking at the wrong model

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was looking at the damaged model

agile jackal Mar 25, 2018, 7:20 PM

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(No points in mesh Model) Dose anyone know how i could fix this?

late raft Mar 25, 2018, 9:24 PM

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ArmA 3 Samples from steam.

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:10 AM

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@agile jackal where does the error come up and when

candid loom Mar 26, 2018, 12:48 PM

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Hey there guys, I'm a relatively new to the arma modeling world. I'm working on a set of PVS-31s (+ other items) and I'm trying to figure out what's a safe poly count for items when going from high poly to low poly?

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https://imgur.com/a/yZ5qh

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https://i.gyazo.com/bcfaca3039e5ac1bec94d5eea4da2fa1.png

quick terrace Mar 26, 2018, 1:13 PM

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@candid loom for that thing, i would aim around 3-5k verts tops

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32k is something like a vehicle

candid loom Mar 26, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Going to have to get creative with what'll be the remaining verts

quick terrace Mar 26, 2018, 1:14 PM

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what do you mean? for one, that piece of equipment is never seen from 1st perspective

candid loom Mar 26, 2018, 1:15 PM

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I know that, just would like to retain as much of the shape as possible

quick terrace Mar 26, 2018, 1:15 PM

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secondly, you can bake down a lot of that into your LP normals map

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no reason why you shouldn't be able to retain the shape

agile jackal Mar 26, 2018, 1:52 PM

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@stuck oyster It comes up when i import my object into object builder.

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 2:58 PM

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question again: the weapon flashlight on buildings isnt correct. anyone know to fix it?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391911851883102209/427843150082473994/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391911851883102209/427843241174499331/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391911851883102209/427843297852129280/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391911851883102209/427843325073293322/unknown.png

turbid cove Mar 26, 2018, 2:59 PM

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I haven't seen that since Arma 2!

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 3:04 PM

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ok. didnt help me.

turbid cove Mar 26, 2018, 3:12 PM

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I wish I could ❤

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are these custom models, or vanilla models? @oak lintel

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 3:18 PM

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custom buildings

bleak tangle Mar 26, 2018, 4:20 PM

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I think that could be caused by a bad shadow LOD

polar fiber Mar 26, 2018, 4:23 PM

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looks like bad smoothing groups to me

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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i have test it, i harded all > doesnt work. I smooth all -> doesnt work.
Delete Shadow lod > doesnt work

hmhm

timber cobalt Mar 26, 2018, 7:09 PM

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Hi guys. Anybody know the exact size limit on geometry? I've heard people say 50m,60m,70m etc

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 7:49 PM

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dont think it can be said very exactly @timber cobalt I believe map parameters also can affect it

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so 50 is said to be safe

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60-70 may or may not work

timber cobalt Mar 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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ok thanks. Ill stick with 50 then

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 7:50 PM

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@agile jackal what format you are importing from, what program is the model made in. Need all the details you can give

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@oak lintel you may need to divide the surface more

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📎 unknown.png

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per vertex lighting it may be called or something like that

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 7:54 PM

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omg.. arma like... more loops per faces

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i test it in the next time @stuck oyster

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 7:58 PM

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similar issues have popped up on this channel from time to time

oak lintel Mar 26, 2018, 8:00 PM

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okay.. creepy... btw: best pitcure ^^

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:04 PM

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Arma + dynamic lighting == pain in the buttocks

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:30 PM

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Hi, guys. Anyone can help me with two problems? LOD geometry not working, i don't now why, i placed simple box for geo. Second problem: bug\glitch in texture, , looks like sifter when approaching - https://i.imgur.com/Vx3IVnO.jpg

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:32 PM

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geometry must be made out of convex shapes, each named componentXXX (thers find components tool in OB) and geometry must have mass applied to it in OB for the engine to recognize it

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and care to explain more about what in the texture bugs?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I think is shadow LOD conflict. I did copy LOD "01" in "shadow"

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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can you point on the picture what is wrong?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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Sec

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:48 PM

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shadowlLod needs to be closed and preferably as simple as possible

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Just copy geometry, if he work, right?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:51 PM

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well that can work

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but shadowlod pieces must also stay inside the reslod

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or they will cast shadows over it

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so Id say no

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make a new one correctly

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:53 PM

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@stuck oyster https://i.imgur.com/peECb1t.jpg

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 8:53 PM

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you got to go make a better pic

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cant see anything there

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 8:55 PM

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It does not matter

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Thank you for advice

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Maybe need invert face? @stuck oyster

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I heard about it somewhere

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:11 PM

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which face?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Faces, yes

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:16 PM

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yes but where?

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what lod

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what part of the model

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what do you think it will help?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Geometry

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:19 PM

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no dont think that would do anything

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:19 PM

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):

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:20 PM

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and I still cant understand what problem you have

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or is it the geometry not working?

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I already wrote what it needs to for it to work above

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does your geometry already have all I wrote?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:25 PM

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I did "Component convex hull" and geometry not work. I can place bipods, but unit can going through building

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@stuck oyster

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:33 PM

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did you add mass

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:35 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:36 PM

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how much?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:36 PM

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1000.0

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:36 PM

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should be alright

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did you rebinarize it?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:37 PM

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sure

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All right working, aside from geometry

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:38 PM

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can cars go through it?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Not can through

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I placed very simple box and he same not work, it very strange

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:41 PM

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did you add the mass to the whole object?

velvet fractal Mar 26, 2018, 9:42 PM

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Only geometry for all components

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Wow

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Stop

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Happened confuz with mass and now all working. O, thank you!

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Urha!

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 9:45 PM

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👌

agile jackal Mar 26, 2018, 10:24 PM

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@stuck oyster Its a pontoon boat off of skeckup and is coverted over using 3d studios and i exported as a .3ds file.Which when i go to object builder i tells me i can do a .3ds file format so do i need to rename it with different file format?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 10:28 PM

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no renaming it will just break it

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you should use fbx to export form 3Dstudio to OB

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And skechup may not be very good program to make models for Arma

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Id suggest you work in 3dmax if you already have it

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and if you are not the original author Id make sure its licensed so that you can use it

agile jackal Mar 26, 2018, 10:48 PM

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So for doors do i need to sperate them from other objects?

stuck oyster Mar 26, 2018, 11:03 PM

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doors on what?

river kite Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 AM

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does someone has the newest win10 update and problems after that with object builder ß

onyx carbon Mar 27, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Just opened Object builder with the latest win10 update, no problem at all

vital geyser Mar 27, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Fine for me

river kite Mar 27, 2018, 2:04 PM

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Hm ok then the update has just broken my ssd but thx for the answers

rough idol Mar 27, 2018, 2:06 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127168

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@river kite

river kite Mar 27, 2018, 2:31 PM

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Yeah thats the problem that i have too

pale quartz Mar 27, 2018, 4:59 PM

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You guys try disabling the game mode features of Win 10?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-disable-game-mode-windows-10-creators-update%3Famp

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Don’t know if it will help but it’s a place to start.

wind lintel Mar 27, 2018, 5:04 PM

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good afternoon guys. so I am starting making simple structures objects with Blender software, I was great about .p3d extension but when I try make a .pbo I give errors. I want to know if you don't have some material for introduce a content about .pbo folder. I did all the steps like open the archive .p3d in Oxygem and define texture again... So in this step I don't what I can do to create a .pbo folder of my project! questions like "creating" config.cpp, textheaders.cpp... with the "object" to load in Arma 3 for use in map...... I only want something like a "plane", "ground", "floor" to close one area of yard map and construce a city

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 5:10 PM

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BI forums have lot of basic questions asked and answered for and there is a plugin for Blender to export P3D directly called "FHQ Blender toolbox" which could help you out.
It has a thread on BI forums too where a lot of questions relating to its use are answered.

Steam also has Arma 3 Samples available which are very helpful in studying how Arma models are set up correctly.

bleak flame Mar 27, 2018, 5:13 PM

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.pbo isn't something you make manually usually, it's created by addon builder or mikero's third party pboProject

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 5:14 PM

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also PMCWiki is great source of info for a beginner. Starting from how to set up your tools the correct way.

vital geyser Mar 27, 2018, 7:16 PM

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@wind lintel Don't use Oxygen for Arma 3 it has been replaced by Object Builder in Arma 3 Tools

vernal lynx Mar 27, 2018, 7:19 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/242282650
13 hours sculpting / baking / texturing an uniform from Low Poly

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if that can be of any help 😃

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 7:38 PM

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hi guys, i didn't found the anwser on bis forum : How to attach a door_trigger to a door, for a building , like a3's buildings. I don't find the anwser in the model.cfg ( didn't seems to be a "bone ") or in the memory lod... thanks for your help !

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:40 PM

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model.cfg defines the animations that a model has and animations are all run by a "skeleton" that has "bones" that the animation classes then move around

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these can be accessed in numerous ways with scirpts or with what I believe you are after "userActions"

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There are some default ones like door interaction

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and I recommend you study the Arma 3 Samples to understand how the system works

harsh minnow Mar 27, 2018, 7:43 PM

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I can just about use zeus so I got no idea what u guys talking bout

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🤔 🔫

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:44 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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you dont have to if you dont intend to do models for Arma

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 7:49 PM

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sorry , i was talking about a door_trigger, in the memory lod, for a building model... not about a script trigger.

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:50 PM

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yes so was I

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check the Arma 3 Sample models

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 7:51 PM

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hum ok... but when you open the model.cfg from the house sample... there are no connection with the door trigger...

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:51 PM

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therse a house with doors set up there

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 7:51 PM

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i already didi it

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my door is opening well, but the trigger is not rotation with the door

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*rotating

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 PM

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everyrhing you want to move with an animation must be in the selection you are animating

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or in a selection that is is connected to the previous moving selection

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like "bone2", "bone1",

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animating bone1 will keep bone2 pieces with it until you animate bone2 pieces

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and that includes memorypoints too

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 7:58 PM

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have you already made yourrself a bulding with a functional door , with the trigger rotating well ?

vital geyser Mar 27, 2018, 7:58 PM

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the mem point just needs to have the same selection as HorribleGoat said

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I have made just about everything its possible to make in Arma

vital geyser Mar 27, 2018, 7:59 PM

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and you need to be looking at geo lod to be able to interact with a mem point

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:05 PM

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yeah i already tried all that ....

late raft Mar 27, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Yeah HG is like

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the #1 source of help on here

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in every field

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:27 PM

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@white jay so you have your door selection res lod, memory lod and geometry lod

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is your door opening so that it goes outside the original model

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📎 unknown.png

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:29 PM

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yes

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my door open well

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:30 PM

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could you drop some pics of the model in OB top view

late raft Mar 27, 2018, 8:31 PM

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he likes to draw

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😂

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:31 PM

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it usually gets the message through better due to language barrier

late raft Mar 27, 2018, 8:31 PM

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ikr

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:32 PM

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then again my pic there can be understood wrong too

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:32 PM

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😉

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:32 PM

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beacause its not complex enough to properly show the concept of the model bounding box

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so just to be clear @white jay you get what I mean with the model bounding box

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:33 PM

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yes yes

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:34 PM

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it can be easily solved by placing few memorypoints around the house to increase the bounding box size

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:38 PM

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okay, but i don't see in the Sample House, how it's connected...

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so don't bother you no more... i will post on bis forum, my config, and my lods !....

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:38 PM

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what is connected

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Im not quite sure what you mean by that term

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:39 PM

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the door trigger following the door animation

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:40 PM

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do you have the useractions configured for your doors?

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the action memorypoint is defined there

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and that memorypoint must also be in the door selection

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so that it moves with it

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:41 PM

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memorypoint is not in the door selection in the House sample

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:41 PM

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and the door will need properly named geometry part too so that when you look at the door the action comes up

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:41 PM

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yes i have the use action

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user

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:42 PM

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do you have a geometry block for the door?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:42 PM

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yes

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and it works fine

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 8:42 PM

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well would you try ot add the memorypoint the the door selection too?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 8:42 PM

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yes of course

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but it's not working, and it's not like this in the House sample

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Samples are not always right (neither am I) but have you tested binarizing the sample house if it works as you want

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 9:42 PM

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yes its works

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 9:51 PM

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Then you need to figure out whats different between the sample and your model

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also what do you pack with?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 9:51 PM

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yes i think i just found it

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it's in the condition = ((this animationPhase 'Door_2_rot') < 0.5) && ((this animationPhase 'Hitzone_2_hide') < 0.99999);
statement = ([this, 'Door_2_rot', 'Door_Handle_2_rot_1', 'Door_Handle_2_rot_2'] call BIS_fnc_DoorOpen);

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i don't call it the exact same way

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 9:52 PM

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well yes if your condition for the action is not met then it wont show up

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you dont have to have it exactly like that

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but the condition has to be met

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you can put simple condition = true;

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to make it always there

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 9:53 PM

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so where did it says that the trigger has to move ? here, or in the BIS_fnc_DoorOpen ?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 9:53 PM

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to test

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nowhere

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 9:54 PM

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okay, because some modders told me not to use call BIS_fnc_DoorOpen

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 9:54 PM

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yes thats just simple way of handling multipart door opening

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but it handles the animations

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how many useractions you have for your door?

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and when you say it animates right how do you test it

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and where do you want the trigger to move

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and if the actions work where is the trigger now then?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 9:57 PM

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it' not animated

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with condition = "this animationPhase ""Door_1_rot"" <= 0.5";
statement = "this animate [""Door_1_rot"", 1];";

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i replace the sample"s house with this lines

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and the trigger is no more animated

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that how i found it...

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:00 PM

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ok so you see the user action?

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but it does not do anything?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:00 PM

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i see it, it's opening the door

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but the user action is no more rotating with the door !

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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you need another useraction for closing the door

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the opening one becomes hidden when you use it

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 10:01 PM

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[V]Xnam - Today at 20:51
i already didi it
my door is opening well, but the trigger is not rotation with the door
*rotating

You could just attach the trigger(memLOD vertice / named selection) to the door in the skeleton in the model.cfg and it should move with the door when it opens

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or did i miss something?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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a lot

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Im thinking its more a useraction issue

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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it should but it' not working like this URO...

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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do you have useraction for closing the door

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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yes of course

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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it was not clear before

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:02 PM

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user action just works fine

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my only probleme was to make the user action rotating with the door...

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM

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so where do you see the second user action then

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM

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and it's defined somewhere here

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condition = ((this animationPhase 'Door_2_rot') < 0.5) && ((this animationPhase 'Hitzone_2_hide') < 0.99999);
statement = ([this, 'Door_2_rot', 'Door_Handle_2_rot_1', 'Door_Handle_2_rot_2'] call BIS_fnc_DoorOpen);

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:03 PM

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no in game

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you look at the door

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theres open door user action

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you use that

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:04 PM

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yes....

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:04 PM

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then where do you look to see the close door user action

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:04 PM

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the same place

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:04 PM

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the doorway

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or the door

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:05 PM

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don't know the difference of this two word in english

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sorry about that

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:06 PM

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📎 unknown.png

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:07 PM

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thanks 😉 : DOORWAY

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 10:07 PM

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😂

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:07 PM

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and with sample config you see the second useraction at the door

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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i see both with both script

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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yes but with sample config does the trigger point move with the door

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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sorry YES

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miss read

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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alright

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 10:08 PM

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could you post pastebin your config.cpp and model.cfg?

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i thin your missing something, or something not defined correctly

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:10 PM

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yes it's my way to call the opening door, i didn't know that the call BIS_fnc_DoorOpen handle the animation of the User action

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it's fixed know, i will use it

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:10 PM

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its just one way to do it

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:10 PM

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apparently condition = "this animationPhase ""Door_1_rot"" <= 0.5";
statement = "this animate [""Door_1_rot"", 1];";

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is not the good way

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so....

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:11 PM

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basically what it does is this ``` _structure animate [_door, _target];
_structure animate [_doorHandleDown, _target];
_structure animate [_doorHandleUp, _target];

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so it just animates the animations you have given it in the statement

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so your animate command is ok

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:12 PM

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.... so where is the USER ACTION rotation ?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:12 PM

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your animate command already does that

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it runs the rotation animation you have given the model in model.cfg

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:13 PM

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yes for the door, but not for the User action button !

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no ?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:14 PM

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are you using the sample model or your model to test this?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:14 PM

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both

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but no differences in the model. cfg

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hey you know, it's no a big deal if i don't understand why it's works... i will just use it like this and tha's all

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*it works

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:17 PM

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just a moment I'll test the sample house myself

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also what did you pack your addon with?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:17 PM

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pbo project old version

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(freeware)

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:18 PM

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from MavericApplications

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?

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:18 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:18 PM

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alright

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sample house door triggers do not move

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they are all fixed in the doorways

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:24 PM

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not in my house 😃

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wtf

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try with a lower radius for the user action

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i think i scale is down a bit to see it properly.

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*i scaled it

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it's not easy to see, i will try on my door, it' slides for 3 meters.

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:40 PM

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meh cant even get to the action points when theyre small

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Im still very willing to say sample houses points dont animate

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what you can do

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is set another point where the door is open

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and use that for the close door action

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if you cant get the point to animate with the door

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:42 PM

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" Im still very willing to say sample houses points dont animate ", you mean, still the beginning of the discussion ?

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or just in the sample house

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:43 PM

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in the sample house

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the points are not animated at all

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whatever youve seen that has felt like they are I cant replicate

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:45 PM

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okay maybe, but it works in the big metal sheld in A3, and there are no animated bones in the model.cfg

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:45 PM

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if theres moving parts there are animated bones in model.cfg

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:45 PM

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or what ever in the model.cfg, who is different from the Sample house' s model.cfg

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okay, so i just miss it

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😢

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 10:46 PM

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but in model cfg you would still just see the moving selections

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like "door1"

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the memory point "door1trigger" would need to be also in the "door1" selection

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to move with it

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 10:47 PM

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i tried, it' not working

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did you tried ?

stuck oyster Mar 27, 2018, 11:00 PM

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alright just tested it. even with the selection set up it apparently does not move with it.

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so I either remembered it wrong that the action points move or it has broken at some point.

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solution is to use multiple trigger points

white jay Mar 27, 2018, 11:08 PM

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OK will try to use this trick, thx for your time

bleak tangle Mar 27, 2018, 11:10 PM

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I don't think the triggers in vanilla A3 structures move either, but they use some newer tech that I don't think the sample house was updated for

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126930#1649747

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:15 PM

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AI pathing is entirely done in OB, no config stuff needed?

bleak tangle Mar 27, 2018, 11:19 PM

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Yes, in terms of the positions within the object. However config stuff is needed for them to interact with doors

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:19 PM

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copy that

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for now my MOUT buildings are doorless

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does the sequence of the pos numbers matter on the path mesh?

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 11:31 PM

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i never found it matters

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Paths

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just use them for positions you want the ai to stop at

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:35 PM

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I copy pasted the paths from the sample building, but it looks like it's not working

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 11:35 PM

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the samples have a fairly good example of the point setups in regards to good places forr posXX points

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are the inXX points above ground level in your model?

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if they end up under the terrain surface for whatever reason the AI wont see them

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:36 PM

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https://snag.gy/igMsFP.jpg

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when I order the AI to move somewhere the building pos don't show up either

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 11:38 PM

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you should number them in order too 1++

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:39 PM

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but it's a copy paste from the sample, shouldn't it just work?

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 11:39 PM

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this is arma

strong plaza Mar 27, 2018, 11:39 PM

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fair enough

bleak tangle Mar 27, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Yeah I'm fairly certain you need to number them in order from 1, but their position relative to each other within the model doesn't matter

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If you want a script to visualize it you can try this https://gist.github.com/pennyworth12345/a309b73aec15fabb649bcdb49e3262f3

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That'll give you labels and + icons at all of the positions from the path LOD in the building closest to you

foggy finch Mar 27, 2018, 11:44 PM

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👍

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at engine level i'd hazard a guess that it looks for the first inXX named selection and if it doesn't find the first one (in1/in01) it skips building a inXX array.

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it's all about naming conventions really,. and keeping them consistent

strong plaza Mar 28, 2018, 12:47 AM

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I copied the whole path mesh from the sample building and it still doesn't work

strong plaza Mar 28, 2018, 5:07 AM

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so building paths work with editor placed houses, but the ones in places in TB doesn't

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any ideas why?

strong plaza Mar 28, 2018, 5:33 AM

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https://snag.gy/g9FYqk.jpg

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 7:25 AM

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@Pennyworth#2634 , short and accurate answer, thanks a lot, i will check on this new actionNamedSel

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 7:46 AM

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@Opteryx#3972 https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/The_Land_xx_class

strong plaza Mar 28, 2018, 8:07 AM

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my config https://pastebin.com/MtEKf4Vk

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 8:11 AM

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class Land_opx_tac_obj_block1: House_F has to be renamed with your p3D name

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like this class Land_opx_tac_house1: House_F

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class = "Land_"+"p3dname" as told here https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/The_Land_xx_class

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and you have to check too, in your geolod, that you have a : class = house, in your property name

strong plaza Mar 28, 2018, 8:33 AM

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got it working now, thanks!

river kite Mar 28, 2018, 8:59 AM

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So after i had to install my windows new, i get this error when i want to open object builder Exeption -2147467259, something with the side by side configutarion is invalid. But i dont find any solutions for this

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 9:07 AM

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did you followed windows 10 's procedure to fixe side by side applications issues ?

river kite Mar 28, 2018, 9:08 AM

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how to do that ?

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 9:08 AM

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i used google,...https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/side-by-side-configuration-is-incorrect-in-windows-10-fixed/

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i think you can start with the 4rth !

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i suppose, its a windows installation issue, it's not related to object builder.

river kite Mar 28, 2018, 9:15 AM

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ok thanks will try this

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 9:15 AM

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good luck !

river kite Mar 28, 2018, 9:49 AM

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hm tried this but doesnt help. found a topic of this in the BI forum he installed some Microsoft visual c++ updates. Checked this and saw i have some outdated versions. After that i downloaded some of those at microsoft but it seems like that are older versions.

white jay Mar 28, 2018, 9:51 AM

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yes it's in the link i gave you too the Method 3: Reinstall the Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable Packages

echo rain Mar 28, 2018, 8:44 PM

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does weighting work on procedural model.cfg anims? or only 100% vertex weight named selections?

stuck oyster Mar 28, 2018, 9:16 PM

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it should but cant remember did it need the isDiscrete set to 0/1 (whatever man class has)

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ive found it rather mysteriosly working myself xP

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actually my water planes use it for little wave motion

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and that worked fine

fleet aurora Mar 29, 2018, 2:39 AM

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For vegetation models such as grass/bushes, how do you make it flatten out when vehicles roll over it. can anyone point me in the right direction?

tulip beacon Mar 29, 2018, 8:50 AM

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dammage = tent

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in geometry lod's named properties

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obviously you have to have a valid geolod for collisions to work

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:26 PM

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Can somebody tell me what am i missing here?

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https://i.imgur.com/rKJLpUI.png

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:27 PM

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open faces in your shadow lod looks like

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make sure its sharp edges, triangulated, and closed

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:27 PM

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I didn't do the modeling i'm retexturing and doing my own config.cpp

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and the original model doesn't have this problem

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:28 PM

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are you taking a binarized model?

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:28 PM

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no

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dude

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i got permission from the owner to retexture and create my own config

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his works just fine

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:28 PM

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lol so defensive

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:29 PM

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defensive?

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:29 PM

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if you have the binarized p3d and try to re-binarize it you will have issues IIRC

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:29 PM

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I am not trying to binarize ..

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:29 PM

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but if you're just calling to the model from the original addon I don't see what would cause that

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when you load your mod alongside the original does the original helmet also have the issue?

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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i'm creating my own config.cpp that is it and i believe i'm missing a material

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no it doesn't

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it works just fine

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when i load both mods

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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pastebin dat config

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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mine?

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or his?

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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yours

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:30 PM

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1 sec

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https://hastebin.com/caxunudozu.tex

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:33 PM

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its probably because you have model= pointing to a vanilla helmet

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while uniformModel= is pointing to the mod's helmet

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:33 PM

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mm

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:33 PM

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while I don't think that would cause the issue pictured, that could be a culprit

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:33 PM

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I did that because when i put the helmet on the floor

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it dissapear

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disappear*

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or invisible

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:34 PM

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try changing that

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:34 PM

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working on it..

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nope

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it didn't work

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:39 PM

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wait

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BEA_Headgear is your pbo right?

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:40 PM

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yeah

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i believe its a material

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but i don't know which one

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:40 PM

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ok so rather than taking the p3d out of VSM, you should just be pointing to it within VSM

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so "\BEA_Headgear\Data\Helmets\Models\VSM_ops" should be "\VSM_WhateverPBO\Path\VSM_ops"

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:41 PM

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No because i dond't want to depend on VSM that's the whole point of creating my own mod

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:41 PM

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well you dont get to make retextures of a model you didn't make and dont have access to the source files of

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if you want to do that you'll need to get the unbinarized models from the author

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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I've done it bro.. i already have other headgear that are working just fine

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without VSM

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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alright well frankly your attitude just makes me not want to help you

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ive told you what you need to do

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its up to you whether you want to do it or not

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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where are you from?

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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usa

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:42 PM

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thats weird

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we Mericans aren't that sensitive

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:43 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:43 PM

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thanks for your help kind sir

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I'll keep messing around with the configs see if i can fix it

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:44 PM

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lol good luck i guess

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:44 PM

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Thanks

onyx carbon Mar 29, 2018, 5:46 PM

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When stuff are invisible/transparent its usually an material issue

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:46 PM

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lol good luck i guess

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:51 PM

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is that all you can conjunction?

plain jackal Mar 29, 2018, 5:53 PM

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sent twice cuz phone

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 5:53 PM

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k

late raft Mar 29, 2018, 5:54 PM

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uh

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why is uniformModel pointing to headgear?

languid urchin Mar 29, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Isn't that how it supposed to be?

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that's how the helmet looks like when put on ground

polar fiber Mar 29, 2018, 10:06 PM

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WIP model with first test bake of normal map and curvature: https://imgur.com/a/kWHON some errors to correct

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2018, 10:25 PM

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bigbadabum! @polar fiber

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looks mighty fine

white jay Mar 29, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Is there a way to reload a proxy?

polar fiber Mar 29, 2018, 11:17 PM

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in buldozer?

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have to restart it AFAIK

stuck oyster Mar 29, 2018, 11:21 PM

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could try doubleclicking the proxy selection to open the proxy dialog and then re selecting it

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:16 AM

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@Win32'Shelestov#6717 I set the dammage to tent, but nothing happens when I drive over the object, do I need to set a higher mass in order for vehicles to interact with it?

late raft Mar 30, 2018, 1:20 AM

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?

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More info?

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:28 AM

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does the object have geometry and fire geometry LODs?

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where did you apply the dammage property?

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📎 unknown.png

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are you talking about terrain object or scenario placed object

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Named_Properties#dammage_or_damage_for_ArmA

Named Properties

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@fleet aurora

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Im off to bed as soon as Blender closes.

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:35 AM

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I set that, but nothing happens ingame when I drive over it. and its a terrain object that im testing.

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:37 AM

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does it the geometry have mass value

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and does it have FIREgeometry?

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:37 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/0a3181cb13ce8753ad951b0b94eb0de1.png

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it has a low mass set right now

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:38 AM

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I wissh you all set up your OB layout to something useful xD

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📎 unknown.png

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:39 AM

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yeah, im new to modeling and I havent changed the layout yet

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:39 AM

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how low is your mass

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cant spot oit anywhere

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:40 AM

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its set to 2kg atm, what should it be set to for a bush?

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:40 AM

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minimun value engine registers is 10

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so try giving it something 10+

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:40 AM

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okay, Ill try that.

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I had it set earlier to 20, but it would block the character from entering the corn, so I lowered it wayyy down.

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 1:42 AM

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yes it stopped recognizing the colision altogether

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you can try making the geometry just small bump and give it larger box for fire and view geometries

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and physx geometry

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it should be enough that the vehicle just touches the geometry a bit to make it break

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Blenders closed

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Im off.

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Laters

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 1:45 AM

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alright see ya

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thanks for the help

fleet aurora Mar 30, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I got it working, thank you for the help HorribleGoat.

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Hi all

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i want to arma3 modell

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but i have e problem.

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i do sample modelling in the blender

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but it looks like this when i rander it

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https://prnt.sc/iycfx8

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http://prntscr.com/iycg7s

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why ?

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 8:27 AM

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Hi @lunar plover. I suggest you read a bit more about 3D modelling to get yourself familiar with how it works and whats what. Each program has their specific ways of doing things and showing things but the building blocks that 3D models are made of stay the same.

What you see in Blenders view in that picture is called "solid shading" view mode and Blender offers a variety of different viewmodes for different purposes. Rendering it would mean a bit different thing to get terminology right, but that all will come to you when youve 3D modeled for a while.

In OB view there you see wireshaded mode which shows the mesh as the edges of the triangles/polygons the mesh is made of and can also be changed to same kind of solid view as you see in Blender and to others like textured view etc (also in Blender)

Now since you've chosen Blender as your program I suggest you look up tutorials on its use and go through those a bit more to get yourself familiarized with the program and start experimenting with 3D modeling and start building your ideas.

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 8:29 AM

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Thank you very much for your idea. @stuck oyster 😃

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I'm watching tutorials

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 8:30 AM

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Well it is very basic approach to any new program of creative activity.

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good luck.

plain jackal Mar 30, 2018, 8:32 AM

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also would recommend looking into this: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=20519

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once you are comfortably familiar with modelling in general of course

onyx carbon Mar 30, 2018, 9:33 AM

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^ more or less a must have

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 11:42 AM

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what should I reference for a measurement when modeling a building ?

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 11:44 AM

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you can set blende to use metric units if you want

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but 1 blender unit is 1 meter in Arma

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and 1 meter in blender too if you set it to use metrics

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 11:49 AM

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I did not set any meters

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i usinf default blander setting

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i using

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 11:52 AM

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1 blender unit is 1 meter

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 12:09 PM

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ok thank you

onyx carbon Mar 30, 2018, 1:35 PM

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For meters etc you need to press the Scene button on your right side
https://gyazo.com/bec7224411e3f4d051436d9d02f8b28c

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Help, please, error at pack in pboproject

scanning for pbos to make....
preprocessing Catholic_Gateway.pbo
<scanning files to pack>
..#UVSet#
bad tagg count 97144

Catholic_Gateway.p3d invalid file

</endscan>
preprocessing files produced an error
Catholic_Gateway.pbo not produced due to error(s)
Job(s) completed in 1secs on Fri Mar 30 20:00:01 2018

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:05 PM

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bad p3d

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could be something UV related

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is it very complex model

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:07 PM

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I have LODS 1,2,3 Geometry, HitPoint, Memory. Until a certain moment everything worked

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1,2,3 have UV

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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does it have many uvsets?

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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1

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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is it very highpoly?

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Low

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I have one UV for general textures and for glass

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I forgot

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:10 PM

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does it load in buldozer?

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Yep, i see model, but i does path to texture without "p:" - full path "Catholic_Gateway\Catholic_Gateway\Textures\Imege.paa" and same rvmat

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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why do you have so any cahholic_gateway folders

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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What?

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Why&

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Just

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I have only try path and he correct

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Now bulldozer not saved p3d, "An error occured during save operation."

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 5:37 PM

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just odd folder setup with Catholic_Gateway\Catholic_Gateway\ but thats not an issue

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just odd

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try saving to another p3d

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you may have got it locked in some program

late raft Mar 30, 2018, 5:40 PM

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what does the output say on pbo

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project

velvet fractal Mar 30, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Problems himself solved, i does restarted computer and now all working... magic. Thank you, @stuck oyster

lunar plover Mar 30, 2018, 8:10 PM

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i have another problem 😃

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https://i.hizliresim.com/Z9Bzkz.jpg

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character remains in the space

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how can i solve

stuck oyster Mar 30, 2018, 8:23 PM

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@wind sluice youd need to have increase the emmissive values of your rvmat

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but be aware that emmissive texture will not cast light out

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it will just look like glowing

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time to learn I suppose 😄

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its very essential part of Arma graphics

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not quite sure if there are any. Ive learened most by just experimenting with them, though some of it is written down on the forums and BI wiki pages

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and then hearing stuff form other modders

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the unpacked arma data has lots of rvmats to study though

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some are even commented

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and they got the textures used in them right next to them so you can figure out what kind of textures you would need

foggy finch Mar 31, 2018, 3:04 AM

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oh crap i missed wip friday picture time, seems the clock rolled into saturday for me

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/E6G5A

sonic valve Mar 31, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Question, how does collision work with dynamic loadouts? Does the pylon provide all that info or do I need to model a chunk of geo to get a rough idea how much it will take?

peak skiff Mar 31, 2018, 3:51 PM

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hi. anyone who configured planes here?
i have a couple of questions.
plane get slided in the side of previous turn.
i want to know how to fix it and what cause it
example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4vdjG4hjlo&feature=youtu.be

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 4:37 PM

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likely your weight is not distributed evenly

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cool plane I might add

peak skiff Mar 31, 2018, 4:44 PM

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thnx

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 4:48 PM

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when your OB viewports are not in DX viewmode you can see the weight center as blue cross

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📎 unknown.png

native garnet Mar 31, 2018, 4:52 PM

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You're a cool plane!

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 4:53 PM

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No you are @native garnet

dusk frost Mar 31, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Hello Guys, I have a problem with my model. I try to set my reverse light. I select the faces, copy them and then redefine them. After that i set the material to headlight_emit.rvmat but it wont show up in the object viewer. The headlights work, any ideas?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 5:40 PM

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do you have the light selection in the model.cfg sections array?

dusk frost Mar 31, 2018, 5:42 PM

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no, does buldozer load the model.cfg?

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Because my headlight rvmat work but my backlight and reverse light dont

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 5:43 PM

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yes it does

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compare to the sample car

dusk frost Mar 31, 2018, 5:43 PM

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okay, i will check it

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yeah i disable the config load and it works :D thanks ^^

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@stuck oyster Where do i need to add it? I have never edited this config ^^

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 5:55 PM

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sample car has sections[] array

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in model.cfg

dusk frost Mar 31, 2018, 5:55 PM

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okay and in this array i can add the reverse_light?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 5:56 PM

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read what the sample has there

fierce dagger Mar 31, 2018, 9:45 PM

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Im getting back into working on an addon since I have a bit of a break from school. I'm having trouble with this model here:
https://i.gyazo.com/6afd0aa0ba04ebe6d115d474f7fd0d9c.png
I've been using Blender and the Arma Blender Toolbox, managed to weight the mask using the arma man skeleton.
But bringin it in game, the head, back of the neck, and lower leck appear to be fine, stickign to the head as it moves, but I don't seem to have weighted the face bones right. Checking the skeleton I have in arma, there aren't any facial bones. Is there a Arma man's facial bone armature out there? Or is it somethign I haven't been able to find in the sample models?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 9:59 PM

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there is a sample bust that I used pretty successfully to copy weights to one of my hooded uniforms

fierce dagger Mar 31, 2018, 10:00 PM

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the bust has weights on it?

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I

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I re-weighted the entire thing then

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 10:08 PM

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You can import the bust into Blender with the toolbox

lunar plover Mar 31, 2018, 11:34 PM

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i have another problem 😃
https://i.hizliresim.com/Z9Bzkz.jpg
character remains in the space
can you help me on this. how can i solve @stuck oyster

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https://resmim.net/f/thJMS6.jpg

woeful viper Mar 31, 2018, 11:39 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Roadway missin i suspect?

stuck oyster Mar 31, 2018, 11:43 PM

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could be that yeh

fierce dagger Apr 1, 2018, 12:24 AM

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@stuck oyster thanks for the help, I think it worked, but I must have borked somethign else in the model cuz now Arma 3 stops working when I try to load the arsenal

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I will work on it tomorrow

stuck oyster Apr 1, 2018, 1:32 AM

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good luck

merry gorge Apr 1, 2018, 3:25 AM

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Got my first untextured object in-game and it seems to have some invisible faces, anyone got any ideas?

pale quartz Apr 1, 2018, 4:14 AM

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Flipped normals?

stuck oyster Apr 1, 2018, 4:24 AM

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👆

lusty ginkgo Apr 1, 2018, 7:47 AM

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So one of the LOD's on one of my models had 18 sections (should have been 4) so I sorted the faces and all that and refreshed the LOD and the section count was still 18. I saved and restarted, and then opened the model and switched to the LOD in question. The display this time said it had 333 sections. I sorted the faces again, and now it reads 91

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So my question is as follows:
The fuck?

lusty ginkgo Apr 1, 2018, 8:12 AM

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Now it's at 68

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nvm it seems that I somehow missed a few faces that had the original LOD .rvmat and not the lower res one

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sorting that out seems to have fixed it

oak lintel Apr 1, 2018, 8:45 AM

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@stuck oyster: its right. Bigger walls need more edges (loops) in the first LOD. The flashlight need them in the resolution lod. its very importent.

oak lintel Apr 1, 2018, 9:12 AM

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but its a littlebit better... but not perfect..

oak lintel Apr 1, 2018, 9:45 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293362141879074819/429939419089338368/unknown.png

oak lintel Apr 1, 2018, 10:20 AM

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other buildings worked https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391911851883102209/429947984852156416/unknown.png

stuck oyster Apr 1, 2018, 12:52 PM

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👍

oak lintel Apr 1, 2018, 1:24 PM

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👎

bitter shore Apr 1, 2018, 3:16 PM

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hey guys how do I make my model object indestructible?

stuck oyster Apr 1, 2018, 3:23 PM

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map objects need geometry lod named property dammage = no and objects with config.cpp classes can use destrType = "DestructNo";

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also you can give them some ridiculously high armor value

bitter shore Apr 1, 2018, 3:31 PM

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ok thanks @stuck oyster

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:10 AM

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what value should a wall/fence have in the geo lod for damage?

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I'm looking at arma 2 sample walls, it says "dammage - tree" but that makes my walls fall over in random directions

foggy finch Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 AM

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damage = wall

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:21 AM

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thanks!

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is it damage or dammage?

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sample models say dammage

foggy finch Apr 2, 2018, 1:22 AM

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either

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:22 AM

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aha

foggy finch Apr 2, 2018, 1:23 AM

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dammage was from a typo a long time ago, both are accepted,. mikeros tools will change dammage to damage for you iirc

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:23 AM

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good to know

foggy finch Apr 2, 2018, 1:24 AM

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you will need your walls to face you in the front view on OB, otherwise they will fall over to the side since damage wall only works on that axis

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I made 32 wall objects before configuring them only to find that out 😄

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:25 AM

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yep, already made sure of that

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I had that problem in arma 1

foggy finch Apr 2, 2018, 1:27 AM

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if you in any doubt as to named properties differences between a2 and a3, I always open an a3 asset of similar type in eliteness and have a quick scan at the properties in those

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some stuff that was ok in a2 has been developed further for a3,. so always worth a quick look into an a3 model imo

strong plaza Apr 2, 2018, 1:28 AM

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I've noticed that too

late raft Apr 2, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I was watching a timelapse modeling tonight

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They make it look so easy in blender

pale quartz Apr 2, 2018, 2:39 AM

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it can be if you know the tools better than I do

late raft Apr 2, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Im still learning the tools.

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I hope one day I’ll be confident enough to model something very nice

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:03 AM

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When modelling suspension on a vehicle, does it matter whether its modelled at full compression or non compressed at all?

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I'm unsure on what to do

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Is there a benefit to either etc?

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Middle? :p

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:30 AM

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@rough idol So this is my tank suspension. https://gyazo.com/0e2ac90eccf0c25089e944e4d096bcaf

Where those arms go up and down, both equal degrees in the positive and negative. So from your straight to the point answer, I presume it would be best to make them so the arms at at 0deg +/-

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Based on this suspension system - http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2236702&d=1507075488

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 6:32 AM

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For tanks také into account that you cannot animate those parts properly

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One end will be most likely attached to the wheel which will be going up and down

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:33 AM

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So I cant make it rotate around its pivot point?

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😦

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 6:34 AM

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Nope

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:34 AM

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Well thats going to be awkward since you can actually see this suspension fairly easy from an infantry perspective

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So any vehicle with pivotal suspension isnt going to work properly?

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 6:38 AM

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Cars are different story

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:39 AM

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May I ask why tanks are different?

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Because they don't have suspension mask

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Asked about it once but incorporating it to tanks was considered low priority

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 6:58 AM

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😦 Fair enough. Looks like Arma 4 it is then haha

agile flint Apr 2, 2018, 7:20 AM

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@rough idol One more question, how does Arma handle round armour with thickness changes throughout it? I.e a classic soviet tank turret where the frontal is thicker than the sides etc? Does the whole turret have to be one thickness? Or can you define thicknesses for something like?

rough idol Apr 2, 2018, 7:21 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Vehicle_Hitpoint_Creation

Arma Vehicle Hitpoint Creation

woeful viper Apr 2, 2018, 10:02 AM

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works fine - creating it is a bit of a pain though because you have to slice the turret into smaller sections to get it convex

outer condor Apr 2, 2018, 10:18 AM

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should the said page be linked somewhere?

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(currently its not and thus overlooked)

minor jasper Apr 2, 2018, 10:18 AM

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Making convex closed curved geo in object builder is one of my pet hates but i find it curiously addictive

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It’s like solving a 3d puzzle though much more difficult than the rubiks cube

woeful viper Apr 2, 2018, 10:41 AM

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why do it in OB?

woeful viper Apr 2, 2018, 11:09 AM

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most of that link is already in the damage description, apart from the 3d pictures

minor jasper Apr 2, 2018, 11:23 AM

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Im an encoder not a modeler, so of no modeler is available i have to make the best of it 😉

woeful viper Apr 2, 2018, 12:20 PM

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and yet you model in OB...

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takes you maybe a day at most to get started modelling such basic shapes as required for fireGeo etc in blender or another proper 3d tool - quicker if you already know stuff from modelling on OB.

polar fiber Apr 2, 2018, 12:38 PM

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I usually do shadows and geo in OB too

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quicker to check that it works in the way that Arma wants it to

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and it's only simple shapes

minor jasper Apr 2, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Given the quality of some guys work like nodunit, pufu, gurdy, toadie etc i would never describe myself as a modeler. As an encoder i get to tweak the work of modelers, and fire geo tends to be one of those areas that needs tweaking a lot. OB is ok once you get the hang of it. Just wish their was a decent user guide explaining all of the advanced keys and shortcuts in detail

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Its all word of mouth trial and error for new guys

woeful viper Apr 2, 2018, 1:27 PM

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Petyr talked about FireGeo - not sure how "fun" would be to make proper firegeo for something like T-54 or T-72 in OB. So i assumed Rob means geo including firegeo.
checking if stuff is closed is easy to do in max as well (i assume other tools are not behind in this)
and checking convexity is also very easy to do visually. Based on triangulated smoothing i can see immediately if a quadface is non-convex and nudge the vertices a bit to make it convex. Well, to each their own - i wouldnt want to miss the powerfull and easy to use tools.

Doing shadows in OB would be a nightmare for complex models for me - those that are not just convex and have detailed attached on the outside.

oak lintel Apr 2, 2018, 3:36 PM

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i have problems with my pathway. My units goes around of the building when its placed in eden. But when i set the height of -0.5m, the units goes in the building and on the position.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293362141879074819/430381224473919488/unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293362141879074819/430390310074581003/unknown.png

oak lintel Apr 2, 2018, 3:55 PM

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ok i fix the problem.. but my next problem xD
my unit stuck on the floor. Only the zombies... i think, when the unit follow me. he get stucked
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293362141879074819/430397018100203530/unknown.png

worn lintel Apr 2, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Hiya lads. I’m currently working on a mod, but require a modeller to help me progress the mod. If anyone wants extra details, message 😃

outer condor Apr 2, 2018, 4:39 PM

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@Flint#9351 #creators_recruiting

lusty ginkgo Apr 2, 2018, 8:48 PM

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so in OB when you create a selection from the face properties how do I add the actual vertices to the selection and not JUST the faces

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I can just select the opposite faces and create a selection from them and invert it

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not really a great workaround

polar fiber Apr 2, 2018, 9:18 PM

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why making one from face properties?

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if you're creating selection by texture/material, it's probably wiser to Ctrl+doubleclick from the list in Resource Library>>Sections

lusty ginkgo Apr 2, 2018, 10:17 PM

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I can select a part of the model, edit the face properties, and select the texture of the faces, create the selection

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so it is selection by the texture and material of only part of the model

polar fiber Apr 2, 2018, 11:53 PM

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as I said, try doing it through Ctrl+Double click from the texture or resource library instead, if you want to select by texture. That will select the full face rather than just points

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but AFAIK selecting the verts is no different to selecting the face in terms of how the game treats it

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I think model.cfg selections reference the vertex IDs, and the only difference is how OB displays highlighting

lusty ginkgo Apr 3, 2018, 12:06 AM

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See, I can't do anything with the verts if they aren't selected

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my goal in this case was to hide all verts and faces with a certain texture within an area I selected while leaving the verts with the same texture outside of the current selection visible

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 12:08 AM

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can you perhaps do the selections where you make the model?

lusty ginkgo Apr 3, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I haven't done anything with this model outside of OB

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 12:11 AM

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ah

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Id still think for example Blender would be far faster for things like that

lusty ginkgo Apr 3, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Yeah but you can't quickly switch between LOD's and have one layer as a background outline or use buldozer or anything like that

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but I have solved that issue so it doesn't really matter now lol

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 12:18 AM

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👌

lusty ginkgo Apr 3, 2018, 5:09 AM

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if y'all aren't aware there is a pretty cool blender addon called archimesh that is useful for creating houses with interiors and things like that

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if comes with blender and it's free so that's nice

shut arch Apr 3, 2018, 7:19 AM

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@lusty ginkgo the easiest way to set something like that up is to put each LOD on a different layer you can then select multiple layers to view. I by no way suggest that I am a good modeller. My brain just can’t get around making shapes work.

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Hey guys, ummm I got a weird problem. I am making modular roads and when its night and the vehicle has its lights on the lights would show broken like this https://gyazo.com/97074be01867abace739f77e930eb906 Any solutions for this? :x

turbid cove Apr 3, 2018, 4:32 PM

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it's not broken, it's... < Arma 2 quality :D
a geometry LOD issue iirc

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 4:47 PM

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A2? I didnt understand I made this for A3. Is the problem with it geometery?

turbid cove Apr 3, 2018, 5:04 PM

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I know, I was just kidding about Arma 1 and earlier
I don't have the exact answer, but other people here do (or may)

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 5:29 PM

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oh ok :p , I really need to know the problem as it took me loads of time to make this mod and would take me more i think to apply fixes for each model xD

lusty ginkgo Apr 3, 2018, 5:46 PM

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anyone know how to properly preserve the scale of a model being importing into OB?

halcyon wren Apr 3, 2018, 8:20 PM

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@bitter shore its an issue with the specularity + onsurface. especially noticeable if you have roads using the shapefiles.

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Bi fixed that issue by not using specularity much or at all on their roads.

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So not really fixed 😦

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 8:55 PM

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would splitting them in smaller grid mesh help?

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 9:28 PM

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There is not way to fix it?, I cant split them it would take a long time

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 9:28 PM

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remove specularity I guess

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 9:29 PM

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how :x

stuck oyster Apr 3, 2018, 9:29 PM

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the parameters are in the .rvmat

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the model uses

bitter shore Apr 3, 2018, 9:29 PM

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aha

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ok will try that

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Thanks guys !

broken abyss Apr 4, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I ran in to a bit of a pickle a few days back and I cannot resolve it since. I have a CfgVehicles.hpp and I seem to have everything set up but both PboProject and AddonBuilder say that there is a missing inheritance class:"...\CfgVehicles.hpp: Line 285 rap: missing inheritence class(es)"

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https://pastebin.com/819dDjqq

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I am lost

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It says the problem is with class ViewOptics: ViewOptics but it is defined at the beginning

cinder pivot Apr 4, 2018, 2:11 AM

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your turrets class doesn't have a closing };

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no wait it does, just way way down I guess

broken abyss Apr 4, 2018, 2:12 AM

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I almost shot myself

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So can you see anything else wrong with it?

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Actually it was an extra '};'

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Got it

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But thanks for bringing light to it

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I hate how it can't write whats really wrong with my config

turbid cove Apr 4, 2018, 7:37 AM

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@broken abyss use N++ and Allman style instead 😉

class myClass
{
   (…)
}

instead of class myClass {

sonic valve Apr 4, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Is it possible to add GPS as a PIP in a cockpit?

median bough Apr 4, 2018, 10:01 AM

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That's an interesting question and idea

minor jasper Apr 4, 2018, 10:07 AM

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Pip afaik is a CAMERA

lunar plover Apr 4, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Why is it looking upright on the Object Builder ?
http://prntscr.com/j0p3ob
http://prntscr.com/j0p55s

turbid cove Apr 4, 2018, 11:22 AM

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looks like an inversion X,Y,Z → X,Z,Y ?

lunar plover Apr 4, 2018, 11:38 AM

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This is correcty ? @turbid cove http://prntscr.com/j0pjg0

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How to inversion X, Y, Z to X, Z, Y ?

turbid cove Apr 4, 2018, 11:47 AM

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I honestly don't know sorry, I am mostly in this channel as a curious tourist

lunar plover Apr 4, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Ok no problem 😃

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My problem resolved. I solved the problem by opening a new blender file

woeful viper Apr 4, 2018, 8:33 PM

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i'm looking for input on solutions for the dilemma of firing slits on buildings/ fortifications:
When made realistic(ally small) they work well for Players but AI is utterly useless - they just fire against the wall. When the firing ports are made large so AI can use them the fortifications barely work for players anymore, because the "slots" would have to be as large as a building window.
Example of what i'm talking about: https://abload.de/img/firingportsc9omp.jpg
This works extremely well with weapon deployment and the stance system for players but completely unusable for AI. I'm maybe thinking of turrets that simulate handweapon deployment for AI to let them use those slots. The problem is that somehow the right weapon and magazines classes have to be spawned into the turret (propably doable), depending on what handweapon the soldier uses. But most importantly the model and also animations of said weapon in the turret need to be displayed.

FFV doesn't work, because the pivot in FFV is around the body, but i need it around the deployment point.
Using the Handweapon Proxy of the gunner's rtm would be a start for the weapon model inside the turret, but there is no animation or muzzle flash then, and the proxy can't animate indepently from the soldier.

Any ideas/ thoughts on this? Any better ideas?

stuck oyster Apr 4, 2018, 8:59 PM

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quite a pickle

lusty ginkgo Apr 4, 2018, 9:54 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/DeQyKQV.jpg
My very detailed garage plans

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hopefully the scale won't be messed up from blender

frigid dirge Apr 4, 2018, 10:14 PM

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I'm currently working on a Helicopter.
The Copilot has or should have a camera (FLIR).

This camera is not modeled, it only exists for the copilot.

Now my problem: As Copilot everything works fine. You can get in, you are able to take over the controls and all that oder stuff.
But when you are entering the camera (Optics) you cannot move it. It stucks in its view to the front - moving the mouse does nothing. Zooming in however works properly.
Do you have any idea where the Problem might be? https://pastebin.com/tu1sjX83
I already tried to use configs from other mods with the same result.

sharp halo Apr 4, 2018, 10:32 PM

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@frigid dirge is it defined also in model.cfg?

frigid dirge Apr 4, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Well, do I actually have to define something in the model.cfg? Because there is no animation whatsoever - just the Optics for the copilot.

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However, I did define some "placeholders" just in case: https://pastebin.com/qbLGUY6m

sharp halo Apr 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

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Nvm, I got confused with PIP, let me check again

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Dont know if that matters, but in the config for example of Blackfoot, memoryPointGun and memoryPointGunnerOptics are different points, and from what I understand, memoryPointGunnerOptics should be moved , so these two points create vector.

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference

frigid dirge Apr 5, 2018, 12:05 AM

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Well I'll have a look at that tomorrow, thanks so far 🙃

inland atlas Apr 5, 2018, 12:09 AM

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So on a gun, the proxys for top, muzzle, side and so on. Do the distances between the three points in a proxy matter?

tacit shard Apr 5, 2018, 2:29 AM

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Hey,
I just wanted to double check something, for the ViewGeometry LOD does it follow the same requirements as the other Geometry lods such as Geo and Physics? (Convex Shape and named component00)
Thanks

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 7:57 AM

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yes

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only difference is it has no mass and no penetration materials

minor jasper Apr 5, 2018, 8:33 AM

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It can also be quite simply made, no need to map to exact vis lod like fire geo

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 8:48 AM

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it does affect the camera collision and occlusion so that should be taken into account for sure

sonic valve Apr 5, 2018, 10:24 AM

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@woeful viper

I think the Malden bunkers kinda give the best example of the balance between the two. Apex Pillboxes take it to the extreme, why sandbag bunkers take it to the latter. Rather then weapon resting, you could try firing slits like a cross or something, to give the AI the up and down view it needs.

minor jasper Apr 5, 2018, 10:24 AM

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it should also be closed, not just convex.

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 11:11 AM

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@inland atlas no, the size of the proxy doesn't matter.

sharp halo Apr 5, 2018, 12:54 PM

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I exported file from OB to 3ds max with scale of 10000 to 1, 3ds format. When I import it back(edited) with 3ds format, I can scale it only 1 to 1000. Any way around? I am not using fbx becouse it messes up smoothing groups for me

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 1:22 PM

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triangulate it in Max before exporting as .fbx

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and use 2014 version of fbx

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but you can scale it after importing to object builder anyway. Activate the pin at [0,0,0] on the grid (just press Shift+C after starting OB) and use the Scale Points tool with an appropriate scale factor, making sure "Relative to pin" is checked and "Apply to all LODs" (if you're scaling multiple LODs at the same time)

inland atlas Apr 5, 2018, 1:44 PM

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@da12thMonkey#2096 Thanks.

tacit shard Apr 5, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Thanks for the help.

broken abyss Apr 5, 2018, 5:16 PM

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If you lock scale in blender it should be ok. @lusty ginkgo

woeful viper Apr 5, 2018, 5:37 PM

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@sonic valve last time i tried AI couldnt even use one of them Apex bunkers that had like a little second story and a huge window in the lower one - the AI see the target, then go to crouch to shoot (and hit the bunker wall), stand up again to re-find the target rinse repeat

edgy cobalt Apr 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Someone have idea, why all Apex objects have canocclude=0 and canbeoccluded = 0 properties?

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 6:40 PM

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ALL objects?

turbid cove Apr 5, 2018, 7:19 PM

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@edgy cobalt I would say canBeOccluded allows it to be hidden thanks to "occlusion panels", and canOcclude tells the engine it has occlusion panels?

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 7:28 PM

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those existed before the new occlusion geometry too

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could be an oversight

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 7:52 PM

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any reason to have 2 or less UV sets on a model?

woeful viper Apr 5, 2018, 7:58 PM

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two or less? To my knowledge you can't have more than two, so your question doesnt make sense

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 7:59 PM

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I was told some time ago there was no specific limit

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 8:28 PM

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any reason to have more than 2?

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I mean different materials/textures can share the uv0 set

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youd need more only if you have different uv layouts for different materials

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like multimaterial has

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 8:42 PM

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or any material with a detail texture or tiled MC texture

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in most cases I don't see why I would need more than 2

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wait nvm the mc + detail that's just UVTransform

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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did you maybe mean to ask 2 or more UV sets then?

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because your question above is a bit confusing

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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yeah, UVSets

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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yes but more or less than 2

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which did you mean to ask

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 9:06 PM

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I would want one that fits inside the boundaries for the MC texture or main texture and one that isn't contained for the multi material with tiling textures. I am wondering if there is any reason to stay at 2 or less or if you can even go above 2 at all

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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thanks. 😄 I just got confused when you asked it like that and then next said no need for more than 2

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but yeah only if you have some other texture you want to use some other uv layout for

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then you would need another uvset for that

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 9:08 PM

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I just don't know if there is a performance hit or if it is even possible

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I have only ever used 2

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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dunno about performance hit as it still loads the same number of materials

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I've used only 2 too because never needed another

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but I suppose it should work except if Arma limits them somehow

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p3d certainly supports more than 2

merry gorge Apr 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Does an object NEED an rvmat to actually work? Making some posters and they dont need any nohq's.

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so just wondering if I just path only the texture in face properties without pathing the rvmat

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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bottom LOD of most models in Arma don't have .rvmat applied, to improve performance

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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sure but their lighting etc may differ up close

merry gorge Apr 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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is it possible to have an rvmat that handles the lighting properties without applying any paralax etc

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like ambient[] = {1,1,1,1}; diffuse[] = {1,1,1,1}; forcedDiffuse[] = {0,0,0,0}; emmisive[] = {0,0,0,1}; specular[] = {0.15,0.15,0.15,0}; specularPower = 90; PixelShaderID = "Super"; VertexShaderID = "Super";

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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sure just leave the different stages to the basic generated ones

merry gorge Apr 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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but without the Stages

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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no stages you'll need

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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put a procedural in the normal map stage, or you use a different shader that doesn't use normal maps

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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👆

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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list of different shaders: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/RVMAT_basics#Material_types

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"super" pixel and vertex shader are simply the most commonly used

stuck oyster Apr 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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you can however try what it looks like without rvmat

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if its ok then go for it

merry gorge Apr 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Alright perfect, cheers for the help. Still trying to get my head around the import to arma!

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Is there any way to ensure that my UV layout doesn't have islands that go below 1 pixel?

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I thought that was what the lightmap pack thing in blender was for but there are still some small corners and faces that are black because the UV island is too small

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 9:57 PM

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doubt it, if you're completely reliant on automating the UV packing process

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they usually use a single texel density for the whole model

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 10:03 PM

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So naturally you wouldn't want a density that results in having islands below the size of one pixel. I can't find a way to control that, though

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Maybe I'm just uneducated, but why exactly can't a minimun UV island size be set? Unless there isn't enough room as a result, I don't see why that wouldn't be technically possible

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I'm sure it is possible to write a plugin that'll allow setting minimal texel density. There are certainly ones where you can specify the texel density of an object, but whether it plays nice with the packing of other objects, I don't know (not a blender user)

lusty ginkgo Apr 5, 2018, 10:13 PM

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I'll see if I can't find something

polar fiber Apr 5, 2018, 10:16 PM

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personally I never autopack the UVs for a whole model. I do it in parts, combining UVs based on how much texel density I think the objects will need, then manually do the layout to make everything fit

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autopacking everything usually makes things difficult when it comes to generating LODs. As things that should be close together, end up all over the place. And it becomes a pain to decimate border edges

knotty forum Apr 6, 2018, 1:23 AM

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hello was wondering if anyone knows of any good sources on video guides for making unifroms and such with arma 3 tools, cant find much on youtube

formal vapor Apr 6, 2018, 2:20 AM

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Random question, anybody run into problems with wonky specular maps with high poly models? Like 50k+?

lusty ginkgo Apr 6, 2018, 6:12 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/nNTxQmz.png
Anyone know what might cause this? I have tried everything trying to fix it (everything I am aware of at least)

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Only these faces and some on the wall in the background look this way. Everything else looks fine

outer condor Apr 6, 2018, 7:36 AM

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@knotty forum check https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=video-tutorials
however you want to use blender or max, not arma tools - they are just for importing, some tweaking and some arma specifics

knotty forum Apr 6, 2018, 7:51 AM

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ok i got blender

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thanks

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yah these are the same videos i found online, didnt really help

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2018, 8:10 AM

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what kind of tutorial you mean exactly? theres tons of general modeling tutorials for blender and learning to model is all about learning how the tools work and then adapting that knowledge to what you want to make. there rarely are tutorials on how to make something that specific

outer condor Apr 6, 2018, 10:55 AM

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Object Builder

Added: Ability to rename and delete a selection across all LODs at once

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is that new? there was an o2script for this already, was it not?

polar fiber Apr 6, 2018, 11:12 AM

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I imagine there's simply a menu/tool for it now, rather having to run the script

lunar plover Apr 6, 2018, 11:40 AM

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I get this error when I want to save my model. Why ?

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http://prntscr.com/j1p0nk

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Ahh ok. My problem is solved...

foggy finch Apr 6, 2018, 5:19 PM

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i see a tools update are the OB viewports still derping? (too lazy to switch to dev branch tools)

polar fiber Apr 6, 2018, 5:31 PM

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yes

foggy finch Apr 6, 2018, 5:46 PM

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damn

twin urchin Apr 6, 2018, 5:47 PM

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you mean the win10 issue?

foggy finch Apr 6, 2018, 5:47 PM

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ya

twin urchin Apr 6, 2018, 5:49 PM

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hmm ye they added a feature that you can delete some selection from all lods with one click

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and they probably dont use win10 in BI offices 😛

polar fiber Apr 6, 2018, 5:59 PM

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people at BIS have the same problem

past edge Apr 6, 2018, 6:00 PM

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wait, so OB's viewport sensitivity being crazy low is because of a Win10 issue?

foggy finch Apr 6, 2018, 6:00 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127168

past edge Apr 6, 2018, 6:00 PM

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I just shrugged that off as me having screwed up my installation

foggy finch Apr 6, 2018, 6:00 PM

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see issue

past edge Apr 6, 2018, 6:01 PM

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hmm, that's similar to what I've got

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unlike in the video, my 3D viewport is slow and sluggish

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the same way the 2D viewports are in that video

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probably the same underlying issue, but a different manifestation of it

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2018, 6:14 PM

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Going to redo my trees and this is the first of three tree surface materials I intend to use. Colors are just my sculpt material. 😄

📎 unknown.png

woeful viper Apr 6, 2018, 6:21 PM

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i would use 2heigth : 1 Width aspectratio for tree textures at least - you always have more tiling in heigth than in circumference

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looks decently organic, with a bit of fancy material work in substance that would look pretty dope i recon.

stuck oyster Apr 6, 2018, 7:17 PM

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that could be wise indeed

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though I dont have Substance so I got to do my materials in Blender

lusty ginkgo Apr 6, 2018, 8:58 PM

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blender's texture fill brush is so bad

late raft Apr 6, 2018, 10:40 PM

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lol

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HG those look nice.

dusk frost Apr 6, 2018, 11:54 PM

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Hi, i asked some time ago what these blue dots in vest example are. I know they are points with 0 weight, but what does that exactly do? or how does this effect the vest?

late raft Apr 6, 2018, 11:57 PM

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Are you asking what weights are or are you asking for the significance of 0% weight on parts of a model

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@dusk frost

lusty ginkgo Apr 7, 2018, 3:18 AM

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There is something that is just so satisfying about a 16-bit greyscale 4k ambient occlusion map

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baked with 32 samples

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it's so smooth and perfect

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of course I will downscale it to 2k for in game use but still

jade rock Apr 7, 2018, 4:09 AM

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what do I need to do to create an interation point on an object ?

foggy finch Apr 7, 2018, 4:30 AM

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32 samples is super low,. i usually use 512 or more

lusty ginkgo Apr 7, 2018, 4:46 AM

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yeah but that takes ages and melts my CPU

foggy finch Apr 7, 2018, 4:47 AM

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what are you baking with?

lusty ginkgo Apr 7, 2018, 4:47 AM

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so I just do it at 2x resolution and use noise reduction on low settings and a very small amount of blur before scaling it down to 1x

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blender

foggy finch Apr 7, 2018, 4:48 AM

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I dont blender, so cant help you with that