#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 91

white jay Apr 25, 2017, 3:07 PM

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you can try it with -hugepages and -enableHT aswell

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i think i use both of them too

sturdy parcel Apr 25, 2017, 3:11 PM

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ummm... what defines this as x64?

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 3:14 PM

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_x64.exe

white jay Apr 25, 2017, 3:15 PM

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i think this is his working settings

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 3:15 PM

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just that Tag, at the arma.exe

sturdy parcel Apr 25, 2017, 3:17 PM

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because the thought occurs to me that with file data firmly entrenched and stored as 32bit, unless some special care was taken it's doubled (or squared) in size when actually processing it.

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that doesn't have to be the case, but obviosuly? visual studio is going to assume 'default' sizes for the compiler.

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ah, should be fine. really. But as you'd be aware, there's a lot of binarising going on to get the objects and exported wrp, into a form the engine can actually work with. I'd put money on the temporary storage being the culprit here. (being larger than necessary)

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bis binarise uses the very same identical 32bit functions as the engine does to well, hell, binarise. But the difference here with what you folks are doing is using 64bit versions of the very same code. It's not given, that the the 64bit binarisation process actually 'works' and looks like, it doesn't. Until we get a binarise_x64, that code isn't used anwhere else.

white jay Apr 25, 2017, 3:31 PM

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it does, but only for me it seems 😄

sturdy parcel Apr 25, 2017, 3:31 PM

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k

bleak tangle Apr 25, 2017, 3:48 PM

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It worked for me when 64-bit was on dev branch, but doesn't now.

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 3:49 PM

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Also crash after when is loaded?

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 4:13 PM

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@sturdy parcel In my case its OB

sturdy parcel Apr 25, 2017, 4:13 PM

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yes, just realised my obsession with wrp

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 4:13 PM

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TB works fine with X64

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hehe

sturdy parcel Apr 25, 2017, 4:14 PM

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so used to skype map makers i can't think straight in any other convo

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 4:16 PM

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hehe

icy dirge Apr 25, 2017, 8:49 PM

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Sup guys so i made a gate.. when it's opened i can walk trough it, but when i try to drive trough it, it wont let me. Any solutions for this? I already tried to put a roadway underneath it, but that didnt help either.

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 8:50 PM

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one is geoPhys, the other is the ordinary geometry.

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in this case -> It seems like you didn't assigned MASS to parts

icy dirge Apr 25, 2017, 9:08 PM

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Hmm just did a quick check on the mass, seems fine. Still has the issue after the check.

wraith tendon Apr 25, 2017, 9:09 PM

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in GeometryLOD:
Structure -> Topology -> Find Components

icy dirge Apr 25, 2017, 9:11 PM

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Did that already, got two components one moves with the anim. when its opened

cinder pivot Apr 25, 2017, 9:38 PM

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is there a physx LOD?

icy dirge Apr 25, 2017, 9:50 PM

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Yes

cinder pivot Apr 25, 2017, 9:57 PM

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try removing that

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make a copy if needed

icy dirge Apr 25, 2017, 10:12 PM

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Tried that but didnt help 😦

formal vapor Apr 25, 2017, 10:33 PM

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Why do you need a phyx lod for a gate??? 🤔

stuck oyster Apr 25, 2017, 10:51 PM

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afaik if geometry is animated outside the model original bounds it does not work anymore.

icy dirge Apr 26, 2017, 1:21 AM

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Ok so i found the problem.. i didnt call the component in the geo lod "Gate_1" as it supposed to be. Works fine now! Thanks to all who try to help, appriciate it 😄

wraith bone Apr 26, 2017, 1:59 AM

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hey guys

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I made this plant in A3, it has all its textures and everything in its file, but I get this everytime I try to open it in editor; can't open object TOSP\TOSP_Plants\Tropical_Plant.p3d

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heres my config.cpp

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// this tells the engine what your addon is called
// the name of the pbo is TOTALLY irrelevant and not used in game

class CfgPatches
{
class SandsOfThePacific /// <<<this is the name of YOUR addon
{
units[] = {};
weapons[] = {};
requiredVersion = 0.1;
requiredAddons[] = {a3_data_f};// to 'get at' the pre-built static class
};
};

// this tells the 3den editor where ALL your objects are to be listed

class CfgEditorCategories
{
class SOFPObjects{ displayName= "Sands Of The Pacific Objects";};
};

// this tells the 3den editor sublists of above

class CfgEditorSubcategories
{
class SOFPPlants{ displayName = "Plants"; };
};

class CfgVehicles
{
class Static;

class tropical_plant: Static 
{
    editorCategory = SOFPObjects;
    editorSubcategory=SOFPPlants;
    scope=2;
    DisplayName="Tropical Plant";
    model=\SOTP_Tropical_Plant\tropical_plant.p3d;// only you know where this is, and it is in the same folder as this config
};

};

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Any help?

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 5:58 AM

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```cpp
YourConfigStuff
```

zenith quartz Apr 26, 2017, 7:22 AM

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can't open object TOSP\TOSP_Plants\Tropical_Plant.p3d
cfg -> model=\SOTP_Tropical_Plant\tropical_plant.p3d;
You didn't tell us something

wraith bone Apr 26, 2017, 2:57 PM

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Fixed it. Had a incorrect file path. model=P:\SOTP\SOTP_Flora\SOTP_Plants\sotp_tropical_plant.p3d

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:30 PM

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What influences the Bounding box of an Object in Eden? Geometry Lod? My objects bounding box is just a big about 1m cube. My geometry Lod exists but it has 0 points

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:30 PM

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View, Geo, Memory

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it takes the points, that are the furthest away from the model

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e.g.
Cube: a single point in the first Viewport is 10m to the left -> Bouding Box ingame is Obj + 10m to the left

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:31 PM

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I only have 1.0 LOD, shadow and Geometry LOD with 0 points.
The bounding box doesn't match up with the 1.0 LOD.

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:31 PM

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Too big?

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:31 PM

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No points outside the Model as far as I can see

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:32 PM

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BoundingBoxReal <- ?

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boundingBox != boundingBoxReal pretty often

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:32 PM

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It's a radio.. Maybe 10x10x50cm

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I have no Idea of modelling. Can I check that in Object Builder?

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:33 PM

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e.g. look at the TopView

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check for single points outside

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:33 PM

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negative

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:33 PM

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+never had such a small model, maybe its a minimum size (just guessing, no clue)

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:33 PM

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The "Documents" Model is even smaller and has correct bounding box 😦

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Maybe the empty Geometry LOD is the problem...

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:34 PM

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Yerp

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Or just wait a sec.

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just a sec more

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 3:35 PM

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I have the Model on github if anyone want's a look

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:35 PM

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wait just a little bit more

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cmon @sturdy parcel write 😄

sturdy parcel Apr 26, 2017, 3:36 PM

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nah, i'd interfere in sth i know nothing about. will ask you later.

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i'm learning more from shutting up.

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 3:40 PM

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😄

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@bold flare can you send me the link via PM? I am in OB anyway

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 5:51 PM

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Okay, who can find the Link to that Pic:
https://i.imgur.com/FLajlFv.jpg

it was an explaination about the boundingBox

Imgur

cinder pivot Apr 26, 2017, 5:55 PM

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That bus is in A2 sample models but has no textures

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 6:01 PM

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Nah, i was searching for the Page, wich explained the BoundingBox. I can't find it anymore

bleak tangle Apr 26, 2017, 6:04 PM

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Is your model able to be picked up, or is this just a static object? What about the documents model?

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 6:20 PM

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already claimed that ticket Penny 😛

bold flare Apr 26, 2017, 6:27 PM

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It's a Radio. So can be picked up like helmet and weapons.

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the documents model has a very tight and even smaller bounding box so I know that my Model is not too small

halcyon wren Apr 26, 2017, 8:55 PM

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So that stupid "Viewer Search" problem when starting Buldozer in Object Builder has gotten worse after I updated the tools. It just doesnt connect at all. it's stuck in its perpetual search. Anyone else experiencing this? And better, solved that?

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 9:05 PM

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It takes AGES to load, yeah

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(32Bit Version)

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64 starts instantly

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but.. erm... crashes when it loads a model in OB

halcyon wren Apr 26, 2017, 9:06 PM

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So I'll just have to suffer through the wait time? 😮

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BZ loads fine and quickly. its just that the viewer search is taking ages. Its the TCP connection thing I believe.

white jay Apr 26, 2017, 9:14 PM

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must be the TCP socket but searching for me suggests that the OB is looking in the registry for the viewer (buldozer.exe or arma3.exe)

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actually the path is configured in OB itself so that does not make any sense

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 9:27 PM

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TCP? wut?

halcyon wren Apr 26, 2017, 9:31 PM

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Yeh. Buldozer interfaces with Object Builder via TCP

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Thats why it has this startup param: -connect=pipe\A111E,8EDB

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In other random news. Buldozer, when run, has this as default date:
[1985,5,11,8,2]

😄

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I bet that hasnt changed since OFP

wraith tendon Apr 26, 2017, 9:33 PM

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oha, okayyyy

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That was new

white jay Apr 26, 2017, 10:00 PM

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if you use bd tools it sets it to [2001, 06, 22, 12, 0] 😄

proud finch Apr 26, 2017, 10:04 PM

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Anyone know why this shit keeps happening? Yes shadow LODs are sharpened, closed, and triangulated. https://gyazo.com/7937e96f3b154d75d35c2a8ae8dd75ac

spice horizon Apr 27, 2017, 1:05 AM

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Looking for someone with some free time that wants to help me get a model working in arma. It's a ticonderoga class cruiser

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The model is 75% done, but I do not have the skill set to write the configs and get it working

wraith bone Apr 27, 2017, 3:44 AM

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yo guys

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i was hoping ya'll could help me out

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I want to put in this building ,I already got the model and textures, but i'm horrible with Geometry and collissions and all of that, if you guys could point me in the right direction i'd appreciate it

bleak flame Apr 27, 2017, 7:30 AM

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A new red dot for RHS: AFRF: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nywD1

fickle olive Apr 27, 2017, 12:29 PM

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an arma have textures packed into RGB ? say roughness in red, specular in green, etc ?

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can*

polar fiber Apr 27, 2017, 12:39 PM

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roughness isn't used. _smdi is specular in green, gloss in blue

fickle olive Apr 27, 2017, 12:49 PM

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ah brill, thanks 😃

sturdy parcel Apr 27, 2017, 1:32 PM

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or you could use raw precedural textures along the lines of #argb(...)color(r,g,b,a)

wraith bone Apr 27, 2017, 1:56 PM

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can anyone help me or point me in the right direction

twin urchin Apr 27, 2017, 2:04 PM

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only if arma used roughness xD

cinder pivot Apr 27, 2017, 2:49 PM

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Geometry is just a simple build up of your building with cubes and stuff, take a look at samples to see what is needed

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2017, 2:49 PM

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a VERY SIMPLE build

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I've seen so many LOD1 Copys in the GeoLod 😦

river kite Apr 27, 2017, 3:01 PM

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Hey guys, short question. Does the Tacho needle (dont know if its called this way in english) also be moddled?

half heath Apr 27, 2017, 3:15 PM

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@bleak flame Good looking model. You still using Modo?

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2017, 3:23 PM

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its part of the Model, so yes. It must be modeled @river kite

river kite Apr 27, 2017, 3:24 PM

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Ok thanks dscha

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 6:57 PM

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question fellas what is a good poly count for a vehicle to put inside arma 3 without causing issues?

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someone told me 50k

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but that seems rather small

polar fiber Apr 27, 2017, 7:00 PM

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Quite the opposite. 50k is above average

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 7:01 PM

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jesus.

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25?

polar fiber Apr 27, 2017, 7:01 PM

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25-30 is typical

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the ones over 30 usually have machinegun turrets and things that require more detail

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 7:02 PM

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I am building an f16

polar fiber Apr 27, 2017, 7:03 PM

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interiors in 3rd person models are usually heavily optimised. You only need high detail for the view Pilot LOD

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 7:04 PM

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would 50k be ok or would that affect performance?

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2017, 7:12 PM

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As low as possible, as much as needed

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for example: Does one wheel rly need 1000 Points/Faces

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 7:13 PM

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no

wraith tendon Apr 27, 2017, 7:14 PM

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That was a rhetorical question 😛

delicate crystal Apr 27, 2017, 7:14 PM

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I know 😛

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I just felt like answering

twin urchin Apr 28, 2017, 8:24 AM

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50k F16 model? do you created that for DCS xD

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and if you have a nice HP of it , you can really easily create a LP - 25k and with baking you get like 90% of details in the normal map , other parts are just about geometry rounded vs blocky

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 8:58 AM

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☝

rich trail Apr 28, 2017, 11:19 AM

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☝

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 12:27 PM

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Uhm, I know I found a fix for something I did like this way back but I can't remember what it was. Yes, GEO has autocenter=0 https://i.gyazo.com/d37c00bc3b137e3a804d691082b9e08d.png

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 12:58 PM

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@proud finch its Arma mate...happens on Tanoa bridges aswell .... 😃

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(the light stuff from earlyer)

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 12:58 PM

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yeah that light thing triggers me

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 12:58 PM

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....

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But anyway idk anyone is realy willing to help you because they are all grumpy about Life mods here...^^

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 12:59 PM

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why doe, we're doing actual content and not retextures and old files from 500 different communities

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not that I expected people to know about it, just saying 😄

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:00 PM

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...Life mods are constantly stealing ripping doenst matter if its from another server or game ^^

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 1:01 PM

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FeelsBadMan

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:01 PM

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hmh...

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i only see one problem with the big life community nobody wants to share but everybody wants to get something from the other... and they all mod a game that has a pretty realistic baseline and a huge "Frame" but using a diffrent Engine would open so much performance and feature wise... and nolonger stiupid PBO´s .... 😄 Cry Engine 4 is free and if u make < x $$ they want X% but even then all these talents that waste their potential to crop everything to fit into arma.... sad ...

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 1:06 PM

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I started playing arma on life mods and became a life nerd, I just really enjoy creating content for it although it's frustrating sometimes

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:06 PM

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sometimes?

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 1:07 PM

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okay like 50%

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:07 PM

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....

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u mean 99.99999999% 😄

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u can do something over and over again with the same procedure and everytime a new error pops up 😄

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 1:07 PM

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tru

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This is just a fun hobby for me, self taught and everything

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:08 PM

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then the Object builder is a total pain in the ass ... i used it once to make a building with a guy who showed me how to with doors and windows and it was so complicated....

proud finch Apr 28, 2017, 1:08 PM

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how do you think cars are? haha

dark flint Apr 28, 2017, 1:09 PM

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yeah with the wheels and shit....

wraith bone Apr 28, 2017, 2:55 PM

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Cars are simpler imo

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Still haven't figured out Buildings 😦

fickle olive Apr 28, 2017, 3:51 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/TTGjAyf.jpg

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rock anyone? 😃

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 4:21 PM

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could you bloke keep it on the subject, which it isn't if a3 life is cancer or if it is 😉

halcyon wren Apr 28, 2017, 4:25 PM

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Currently going through the A2 trees... silvador really doesnt care about section count. :/

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http://i.imgur.com/w7gR8eQ.png

Imgur

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This is what they decided was worth an section on a tree placed thousands of times...

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 4:31 PM

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😂

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All A2 Trees?

halcyon wren Apr 28, 2017, 4:32 PM

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Just the two beeches. It seems as they progressed through the trees alphabetically it was optimised.

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 4:33 PM

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Yaeh, just opened several others, they look pretty normal

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(1-3)

halcyon wren Apr 28, 2017, 4:34 PM

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I'm absolutely loving -filePatching. Makes tweaking the lighting of my trees directly on the terrain so much better.

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 4:34 PM

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Does it work with model.cfg changes too?

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(e.g. i have to restart Bulldozer, when i add new bones/selections etc)

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 4:35 PM

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simply have to respawn the vehicle

halcyon wren Apr 28, 2017, 4:37 PM

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Modding is so much more fun when the tools actually enable you. 😃

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 4:39 PM

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it happens so seldomly

wraith bone Apr 28, 2017, 5:06 PM

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Can anyone explain the process of doing all the object Builder stuff for the buildings

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I have it imported but I want to add all the geometry, Fire geometry, visible geometry, and all that

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Yes I do have all my components labled

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 5:20 PM

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there is no difference doing geo fire geo etc for buildings than any other mesh

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the only difference is the named properties

white jay Apr 28, 2017, 7:03 PM

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Ive asked myself whats the actual conversion between mass (in Geo LOD) and kg? Poorly couldn´t find any documentation about it :/

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:04 PM

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it is kg

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Some say it is, some say its not. No clue anymore.

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:07 PM

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it's in the manuals 😉

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 7:07 PM

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Note that and mention it the next time the topic comes up 😄

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iirc, we had that with while talking about ACE stuff

polar fiber Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Config/inventory mass is the one that's got weird units

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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some strange formular was posted back then

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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it is not exact if i recall correctly

polar fiber Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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it's separate to the model geometry mass

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Ah damn, right. It was mass

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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but for all intensive purposes GeoLod 'mass' is kg.

wraith tendon Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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too many vars

white jay Apr 28, 2017, 7:09 PM

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Ah that´s lovely, thanks 😃 Did not expected it to be that easy

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:09 PM

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enjoy it while it lasts 😄

wraith bone Apr 28, 2017, 7:39 PM

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how would I set mass to my building and configure the components for the geo

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 7:43 PM

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select all objects, press alt-m, enter mass into the box (should be relatively heavy). for components, Structure>Topology>Find Components. they must be closed/convex.

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 7:58 PM

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back in the arma(1) days I used modo with Synide's P3D plugin extensively to fix and tweak p3d models. this was like what, 401 era or something cant remember heh.

I wrote only few notes, since then I've forgotten much of the modo functionality, after all its like more than 5 years and 5 modo versions later as now I'm using modo v10.2v2 (and v11 has just been released) with ianbanks rvodo plugin.

currently I'm (again) newbie regarding UV sets, I can do UV unwrapping but when I load original P3D file into modo I cant even find the UV set(s), basically I can only destroy existing stuff and make new UV's.

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if you just google "modo uv mapping texturing" there are so gazillion results that it takes forever to wade through all of them. does anyone know some tutorials or manual pages etc which would cover this specific P3D suitable UV issue?

or if any modo guru would help me with this direct issue, I would really appreciate it and this time I write everything down so I wont be asking the same questions again 😃

hollow fulcrum Apr 28, 2017, 8:04 PM

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slowly backs out of the room...

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 8:05 PM

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heh

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 8:05 PM

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@bleak flame ^

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@ebon abyss - you are either doing something really wrong

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or that plug has an issue

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 8:06 PM

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yeah its definitely me.

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also I'm well aware that this is a RTFM issue, but like I said its not that simple, I kinda dont even know what to search for.

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 8:08 PM

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can you post an UV view from modo?

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not a modo user, but software work more or less the same when UV are concern

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 8:10 PM

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well lets give direct example; I load a p3d into modo (and save it to lxo right away). it is untextured in modo because initially the texture path and or file name was wrong, I then fixed the path/file name in shader tree, however model is still stubbornly untextured in modo.

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first direct question is; how I can check which shader tree material is applied to the model (if any)? 😮

wraith bone Apr 28, 2017, 8:25 PM

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okay so when I make my building right, it needs to have 3 ladders in it, and just some basic geometry like walks, 3 steps, a couple of windows, and 3 floors to walk on

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 8:48 PM

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@ebon abyss - no idea tbh, but i thought the issue was modo to p3d

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@wraith bone, yes and?

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specific questions

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 8:50 PM

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well actually its p3d to modo heh. once I have the model properly setup, saving to p3d is no problem.

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I actually now found where the uv sets are located (dumb me I had minimized the dialog where they were heh). but still that above question remains.

quick terrace Apr 28, 2017, 8:55 PM

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google doesn't help?

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 8:57 PM

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was just reading the official modo online doc, could not find any solution so far. difficult to search as I dont know what I'm searching for 😃

white jay Apr 28, 2017, 9:20 PM

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@ebon abyss you might want to look into this:
https://foxhound.international/modo-plugin

ebon abyss Apr 28, 2017, 9:21 PM

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I am using that plugin. or did you mean something else?

white jay Apr 28, 2017, 9:22 PM

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oh sry yea i ment just the plugin

wraith bone Apr 29, 2017, 12:32 AM

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@quick terrace How would one create that geometry, without blocking off all the open areas within the house, allowing people to walk on it and, how would one create those ladders for people to walk on

ebon abyss Apr 29, 2017, 2:00 AM

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seems I may have partly solved one of my issues, I can now load texture (image map) into modo and few of my "untextured model!!" bugs are fixed, texture shows up fine. unless I'm mistaken this answered my question above.
I would still love to ask stupid questions from some modo guru 😃

bleak flame Apr 29, 2017, 2:22 AM

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ping me whenevs @ebon abyss or pm.

ebon abyss Apr 29, 2017, 2:29 AM

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roger, thanks.

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 11:27 AM

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Hi, im experiencing a very annoying Shadow LOD bug with a custom model which i cant seem to fix. The problems are 1. That the lines of the shadow LOD are visivle InGame and 2. Weird Shadow stripes. (See reference pic) http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170429/u3x3fb3w.jpg And here´s the Shadow LOD in OBJ (It is closed, trinagulated and sharp edged) http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170429/xrea5pby.png Does anyone has a clue / tip how to fix that? Thanks 😃

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 12:50 PM

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Guys I need some help. I have a static model of an antenna. When I place it in eden everything is fine as long as it is marked as simple object. Otherwise the object just dissapears as soon as I start the game. It's gone. Any ideas what Iam doing wrong?

wraith tendon Apr 29, 2017, 12:51 PM

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Happens pretty often, you are not the only one.

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 12:51 PM

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Ok, so any solution to that issue?

wraith tendon Apr 29, 2017, 12:51 PM

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Not that i know of, sry.

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Currently checking, if its in the FT.

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 12:52 PM

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its also weird that as soon as i set enable simulation to off or enable damage to off the object dissapears in eden also

wraith tendon Apr 29, 2017, 12:52 PM

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You can check, if its in here:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/project/view/1/

If not -> Open a Ticket.

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(since you got that prob, i couldn't post an example)

fickle olive Apr 29, 2017, 12:55 PM

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this look ok? 😐 http://i.imgur.com/fgZMbHE.jpg

hollow fulcrum Apr 29, 2017, 12:59 PM

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there are many rocks where i live that look like that.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i think it looks pretty good. what is the light patch on the top?

fickle olive Apr 29, 2017, 1:03 PM

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its from the texture, im guessing some kind of quartz

hollow fulcrum Apr 29, 2017, 1:03 PM

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ah

fickle olive Apr 29, 2017, 1:03 PM

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not finished it yet and first time using quixel so thisll just be a test of what i can cock up lol

hollow fulcrum Apr 29, 2017, 1:04 PM

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some more normal power probably wouldn't hurt

fickle olive Apr 29, 2017, 1:05 PM

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true, i dialed it down a bit, probably to far

hollow fulcrum Apr 29, 2017, 1:05 PM

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have fun with quixel, that is my app of choice most of the time 👍

fickle olive Apr 29, 2017, 1:05 PM

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it seems pretty straight forward so far, but barely scratched the surface no doubt.

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 1:55 PM

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its seems like the object is immediately deleted if place via editor / zeus from the game. No idea why. Gonna check dev branch if it is fixed there (couldnt find anything hinting to it from changelog tough)

twin urchin Apr 29, 2017, 2:05 PM

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@hollow fulcrum !

bleak tangle Apr 29, 2017, 3:45 PM

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@white jay Not all of your edges are sharp, in this image the thin red lines mean that edge isn't sharp http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170429/xrea5pby.png

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 3:59 PM

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Saw that aswell, was a mistake as i sharped edges berfore triangualting. Doesnt help. :/

white jay Apr 29, 2017, 4:58 PM

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Thanks anyways

amber stone Apr 30, 2017, 2:23 AM

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Anyone have a written beginner guide I can use to see about getting into model making?

worthy inlet Apr 30, 2017, 5:03 AM

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@Knowlton#9617 Youll need to familarise yourself with whatever modelling software you have chosen.If for instance you choose blender,your best just making some boxs and basic stuff to get a hang of it.Video tutorials aplenty out there.

civic salmon Apr 30, 2017, 6:07 AM

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hey modeling friends, here are some shots of a neon sign I made today. emmulsive .rvmats are cool but can someone teach me how to attach proper light points? I don't know how to do that yet :)

http://tinypic.com/r/ff79jr/9

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well my pic links aren't working so just check it out on my twitter: https://twitter.com/defjon5/status/858562228978565120

white jay Apr 30, 2017, 7:58 AM

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@Knowlton You should check out Burnes tutorial series on YouTube. Helped me alot back in the time.

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@civic salmon Have you checked the Arma Samples (Download via Steam)? Im pretty sure theres a lamppost sample ;)

civic salmon Apr 30, 2017, 8:27 AM

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ok, I found one called lampa_vyoska.p3d but I can't find the config, I see that I need to add a memory and a hit-point for the light

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I take it that it would correspond to something in the config

civic salmon Apr 30, 2017, 8:51 AM

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so is it the Reflectors class I want to use?

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oh I see, class light, and it's an embedded classname

white jay Apr 30, 2017, 10:20 AM

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The config.cpp is definetly located inside the Arma Samples, like I said youll have to load it from the Steam Store http://store.steampowered.com/app/390500/Arma_3_Samples/ Afterwards all the files, including a config.cpp will be located at Steam/SteamApps/common/Arma 3 3Samples / Addons / Test_Lamp_01.

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Otherwise i could load it up to Dropbox or something...

quartz ridge Apr 30, 2017, 5:24 PM

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Hi, I'm working on a car in Object Builder. I want to rename the pbo file. My car.p3d directing to "car\data\int.p3d" but how can I edit the patch? Sorry for my english, but I hope you understand 😃

cinder pivot Apr 30, 2017, 5:54 PM

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You can just rename the p3d file and everything pointing to it

quartz ridge Apr 30, 2017, 5:56 PM

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but how can I rename the patch to another p3d file in Object builder?

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"cannot load pbo_file\data\proxy.p3d"

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sorry. It's a prox2.p3d file.

quartz ridge Apr 30, 2017, 7:02 PM

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Problem solved!

civic salmon May 1, 2017, 4:36 AM

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@white jay thanks for the help, I didn't even know the arma 3 samples were a thing, I found the lamp and I think I know what I need to do now!

wraith tendon May 1, 2017, 2:37 PM

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~~Anybody got an idea, why the damage is sometimes ignored (RedArea)?
https://i.gyazo.com/8e40e389aea531baced2884ba0214c58.png~~
Scratch that... Model had no fireGeometry...

river kite May 1, 2017, 3:18 PM

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can someone tell me why my object builder is crashing when i want to open a proxie of data_f ?

white jay May 1, 2017, 3:18 PM

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cuz these proxies are binarized

river kite May 1, 2017, 3:19 PM

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hm ok

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which ones are the best that i can use for a truck ?

white jay May 1, 2017, 3:19 PM

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try and see

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when you place a proxy, you can view it in buldozer tho

river kite May 1, 2017, 3:21 PM

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i know but i only found 1 yet and they dont fit really ^^

white jay May 1, 2017, 3:21 PM

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you should be able to point a proxy to a binarized p3d

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and even view that in buldozer

river kite May 1, 2017, 3:22 PM

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but how ? ^^

white jay May 1, 2017, 3:37 PM

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Create -> Proxy

river kite May 1, 2017, 3:40 PM

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thanks 😃

wraith tendon May 1, 2017, 4:57 PM

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~~Anybody remember the button to enable/disable the Face direction?~~

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~~(little blue indicators, iirc)~~
nvm, found it "show normals"

wispy orchid May 1, 2017, 6:49 PM

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@wraith tendon thanks for your recommendation to look into physx suspension wheels for the broken suspension on Unsung planes. Unfortunately it opens a whole new can of worms, lol.

wraith tendon May 1, 2017, 6:51 PM

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lol

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Welcome to PhysX.

wispy orchid May 1, 2017, 6:52 PM

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yeah, the geo lod and the physx settings better be closely aligned, otherwise you're in for a surprise, I found the hard way

wraith tendon May 1, 2017, 6:53 PM

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hehe 😄

crystal crest May 1, 2017, 8:42 PM

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hey guys, can someone explain to me what this is actually doing ? 'bis_disabled_Door_07', 1]

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is it literally disabling the door ?

white jay May 2, 2017, 4:23 AM

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Hey guys, any ideas on how to fix that alpha problem ? http://i.imgur.com/fTvOryF.jpg

Tried to change the RVMAT flags, tried to change Pixel and Vertex Shaders, tried to reduce the specular intensity, did "move top", "move bottom", sorting alpha (all that stuff), added "forcenotalpha 1", also "canbeoccluded 0", etc. Still not working. Thing is, when the glass is overlaying a building on my screen, it's not redered..

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 4:58 AM

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Im not sure I see what is wrong with that

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@Ben Archer#5379 would have to see more of that to tell

white jay May 2, 2017, 6:49 AM

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@cinder pivot The blue hollow part

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When any buildings are being drawn behind the glass, it turns that blue

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Or doesn't render at all

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It works fine in the environment

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Only happens with buildings

lime nebula May 2, 2017, 12:17 PM

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Select your glass and use, move top function in structure

inner sluice May 2, 2017, 12:28 PM

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Hello guys. I'm trying to make this model to move like a tank
http://image.prntscr.com/image/ed15aed780564c3384ceb8ad3d8170e1.png
Is there something special to do with memory points or something ? because I can't get it to work :/

zenith quartz May 2, 2017, 2:17 PM

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you need to setup the physx, did you try it?

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 2:27 PM

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@inner sluice look at arma 3 samples for tanks

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shows you how you need to do treads and all that

white jay May 2, 2017, 2:45 PM

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@lime nebula Already did that and all, described what I tried so far under the link

wraith tendon May 2, 2017, 4:13 PM

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What are you trying to do?

lapis sinew May 2, 2017, 4:20 PM

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im on my wrong dc account :/ one sec

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nvm

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 4:25 PM

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okay so for non-convex shit, do I make it convex?

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okay so i'm making this building, and I have a few open areas within it, like an exploded wall and such, I was told to get it properly done and in game as a building/static I have to find all components and close/convex them, but it closes everything up, like doors, windows, and such. is this normal?

quick terrace May 2, 2017, 4:39 PM

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is not normal (or in fact it is, but if you are loosing doors it means you did it wrong)

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make it from simple convex boxes

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use as little individual pieces as possible, but still use pieces, not a single mesh

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 5:43 PM

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can you explain that process plz

bleak tangle May 2, 2017, 5:48 PM

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Have you looked at the various geometry LODs on the Test_House from Arma 3 Samples? (http://store.steampowered.com/app/390500/Arma_3_Samples/)

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 5:55 PM

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If my model has some odd shadows in blender, will it carry over ingame? Not like flipped normals but different shadows, only happened because I imported part of a mesh into blender then continued editing it. The same mesh created in blender doesnt have any offcoloring in the mesh.. Its really odd

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 5:58 PM

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i have looekd at the various geometry lods on the test_house

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but i'm completely confused on how to apply that to my own creation

hollow fulcrum May 2, 2017, 5:58 PM

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@cinder pivot hard to say not seeing it. the shadows ingame come from the shadowLods though, so i'd think it's not likely to transfer over.

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@wraith bone what does your geoLod look like?

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:00 PM

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@hollow fulcrum really new to this, hold on

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:00 PM

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@hollow fulcrum its more like shading vs shadows, like it has one material applied but goes from grey to blueish

hollow fulcrum May 2, 2017, 6:00 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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sounds like a blender thing

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:01 PM

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@hollow fulcrum do you want a gyazo

hollow fulcrum May 2, 2017, 6:01 PM

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linkage is good

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:02 PM

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https://gyazo.com/fd4a44bcfe956bc45177e36e7c23bb49

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thats what it looks like right

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but when I find components and close/convex them

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it just all clsoes up

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i want it so its static, people can walk into it, and onto all those floors

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and etc

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:03 PM

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The google machine says its because the direction of the mesh changes sharply without any supporting geometry, but it happens on almost flat surfaces as well.. Its really odd

hollow fulcrum May 2, 2017, 6:04 PM

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most 3d apps have a shading function that lets you know if your smoothing is proper. probably just need to adjust the smoothing groups. or clear them and reapply.

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:04 PM

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@wraith bone your geometry should be simple and is made up of smaller "blocks" if you will, not one solid block

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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alright

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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And no texture on it

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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no texture on my geo?

hollow fulcrum May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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@wraith bone is that the geoLod or resolutionLod?

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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i think i've been doing this 100 percent wrong

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i only have my geo lod

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:05 PM

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If you see the house in samples, its all built up of smaller blocks for collision

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 6:06 PM

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alright

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any videos or tutorials out there you can give me

cinder pivot May 2, 2017, 6:06 PM

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Arma samples of the house

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Has all you need

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There are guides but I dont have them handy

shrewd owl May 2, 2017, 7:10 PM

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I have a question that I am having trouble googling - Is there a way to disable the bench seat on the RHS MELB AH6M-H? This helicopter seats one pilot, one copilot, and one passenger on the bench seat over the GAU19 mount on the pilot side. I would like to disable the bench seat so the helo only seats two players, because reasons. Thanks

stuck oyster May 2, 2017, 7:32 PM

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throw invisble UAV_AI unit in the seat with disabled AI.

shrewd owl May 2, 2017, 8:08 PM

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huh not a bad idea

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ive just got to figure out how to do that 😛

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yea I dont know how to add an invisible unit

wraith bone May 2, 2017, 8:31 PM

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I'm still confused on the buildings thing

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would anyone like to direct chat and help me???

river kite May 2, 2017, 11:01 PM

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Can someone tell me how i can get my vehicle always displayed in Front,Left und Top View ? also when i editing in other LODs ?

wraith tendon May 2, 2017, 11:08 PM

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F9?

river kite May 2, 2017, 11:13 PM

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yeah then i have the 4 views

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but when i switch to the memory LOD i just see the points and nothing else

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i want it like in this vid ^^

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http://i.imgur.com/O1Fuhec.jpg

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so when im in another LOD i still see the 0.000 LOD

polar fiber May 2, 2017, 11:18 PM

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View Background LOD

river kite May 2, 2017, 11:21 PM

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ok thanks will search for that later ^^

wraith tendon May 2, 2017, 11:24 PM

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File -> Options -> What MonkeySaid

river kite May 2, 2017, 11:28 PM

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yup thanks guys found it ^^

wraith tendon May 2, 2017, 11:32 PM

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"found" lol

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😄

river kite May 2, 2017, 11:57 PM

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yeah found it because of you 😄

light bone May 3, 2017, 11:26 AM

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Is there a way to mass change the model path of proxies in the model? Maybe a hex editor?

terse elm May 3, 2017, 11:29 AM

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Sounds like ur up to no good

light bone May 3, 2017, 11:30 AM

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Why are you assuming that

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?

light bone May 3, 2017, 11:45 AM

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Hex Editor did the trick

halcyon wren May 3, 2017, 11:56 AM

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o2script

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@terse elm
I just had to mass rename proxy paths over the weekend. 😉

light bone May 3, 2017, 12:01 PM

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Will remember that for the future

terse elm May 3, 2017, 12:02 PM

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only time iv heard of ppl using hexedit is for norty things lol, iv been hanging around here too much!

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ppl asume the worst

light bone May 3, 2017, 12:04 PM

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Can understand that but just that you can sleep well I'm part of the new franze & nodunit ah64 dev team

terse elm May 3, 2017, 12:06 PM

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not come across those what are they out of interest

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or what do they do?

light bone May 3, 2017, 12:09 PM

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franze and nodunit made a highly detailed ah64 back in arma2 times. They ported it to arma3 but they dropped the project and gave permission to the community to continue their project.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_ENvnvgZXw

terse elm May 3, 2017, 12:24 PM

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cool

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 12:25 PM

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lol, whats up mike?!

terse elm May 3, 2017, 12:51 PM

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hey hatchet, where u been hiding 😃

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made anything cool lately

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 12:57 PM

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meh.. nothing new unfortunately. lots of LP foo in my life currently.

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@terse elm how about you?

terse elm May 3, 2017, 12:58 PM

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been working on this last few months https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/204074-mpx-baf-virtus-body-armour-system/

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 1:00 PM

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ah very cool

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if im lucky i'll find time to make a muzzle flash hider for the M2 and finally get to painting it today.

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:15 PM

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Hatchet

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are you even alive dude?

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xD

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 1:16 PM

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👀

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possibly.

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:16 PM

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you know that my thing yes?

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😄

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 1:16 PM

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😆

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:17 PM

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so can i expect it soon?

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 1:19 PM

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meh.. soon is relative. im just catching up on where i was before going afk this last time.

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you're after DCL foo right?

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:19 PM

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well you already got those sights done right?

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 1:20 PM

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aye, the 120 is done. i'd have to look again to know about the other 2. i'll get to it before the weekend most likely. i'll send you a PM. (or you know, remind me 😄 )

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:20 PM

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ok will do xD

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@terse elm if you get bored , we at ASTFOR got a lot of stuff to do 😄

halcyon wren May 3, 2017, 1:34 PM

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Woah... I just looked at your to do list for ASTFOR. :D
Any vehicles already started?

terse elm May 3, 2017, 1:35 PM

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looks a cool project, sadly i cant take on any more than im currently doing otherwise il end up divorced

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 1:43 PM

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@halcyon wren Yup , you can see a few in some screenshots

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@terse elm no problem 😉

zenith quartz May 3, 2017, 6:59 PM

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https://youtu.be/XmuWoTeUUFs

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does anyone have a clue about it

twin urchin May 3, 2017, 7:08 PM

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that tank has a hot rod mod on 😄

hollow fulcrum May 3, 2017, 7:09 PM

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that is more of a @woeful viper type question. best i can tell, it is not proper. 😛

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 7:16 PM

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Looks like a typical: PhysX

zenith quartz May 3, 2017, 7:18 PM

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lol

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i've managed to cfg the sherman

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this one is giving me headache

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 7:19 PM

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iirc it had something to do with the contact of the wheels with the ground (like sinking in ground/too low)

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Maybe that hints you in the right direction

zenith quartz May 3, 2017, 7:20 PM

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the problem is only when i try to turn while moving forward

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 8:04 PM

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Anyone got the Problem, that userAction's (e.g. doors) disappear, when you walk inside a Model(House?)

zenith quartz May 3, 2017, 8:07 PM

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memorypoint and radius?

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 8:12 PM

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Nah, they are available when i am outside, when i move in -> Disappear oO

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Pretty strange

river kite May 3, 2017, 8:32 PM

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how much hitpoints are a good deal for a truck ?

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 8:34 PM

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2

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 8:58 PM

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*solved:
The GeoOccluder in ViewGeometry killed/blocked the userActions inside of the Building.

zenith quartz May 3, 2017, 9:15 PM

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solved mine too 😄

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probably the wheels were too close

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 9:16 PM

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Told ya 😄

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(Okay, said something different, but refered to the obvious physXWheels prob 😄 )

white jay May 3, 2017, 10:26 PM

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Altough this might not be the right channel for my question, is Arma loading faster the less .pbo`s are located inside the addons folder? Or to be more clear, is it worth piling lots of models inside one .pbo and config.cpp for better (is it?) Performance ? Thanks again :)

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Edit: or is it basically the same compared to having "every" model in their own .pbo.

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 10:29 PM

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hm, i doubt it there is a *noticable diff.

ebon abyss May 3, 2017, 10:32 PM

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when I load all PMC real world data terrains into my Gaming computer, arma3 startup time until I'm in main menu is considerably longer than without them or with only just CUP loaded. so yeah, parsing through all those pbos (configs?) does take its toll. however if you are talking about small addon/mod, then I would say it makes no difference.

white jay May 3, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Ok thanks

ebon abyss May 3, 2017, 10:40 PM

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just checked, my example data is 194gb in pbo's so that gives you some context 😉

wraith tendon May 3, 2017, 10:42 PM

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🤦

light bone May 3, 2017, 10:54 PM

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in theory, it should be slower but even in the worst case, when files are partitioned all over your drive (non ssd) it is negligible. As an add-on creator I would prefer clean structure over few hundred of ms of gain in startup speed

ebon abyss May 3, 2017, 10:58 PM

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my example is extreme case, however the waiting time is at yawning level when I fire up my arma3 with that load. I might have to time it one of these times I start it up just to get some data about it. its not over a minute though just to give some idea, prolly over 30sec.
oh and I load that stuff from HDD (old western digital 3tb green) because, SSD is full.

light bone May 3, 2017, 11:02 PM

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Your case states the obvious that more content causes longer laoding times. His question was if content located in one pbo gets loaded faster than the same content spread over multiple pbos

wraith bone May 4, 2017, 2:16 AM

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is the 1.00, & 2.00 a res lod or no

hollow fulcrum May 4, 2017, 4:37 AM

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both are resLods

white jay May 4, 2017, 7:50 AM

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@wraith bone https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD
@brThats what I wanted to hear :) Thanks!

past remnant May 4, 2017, 9:44 AM

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Recommended limit on a close shadowvolume?

halcyon wren May 4, 2017, 10:00 AM

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2000-2500faces

glossy mango May 4, 2017, 10:07 AM

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Is it possible to design custom flight displays, HUDs, etc, for vehicles?

light bone May 4, 2017, 10:42 AM

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depends do you mean for an existing one?

glossy mango May 4, 2017, 1:36 PM

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@light bone sure!

still trail May 4, 2017, 2:51 PM

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Good afternoon all, just wanted to highlight how BIS are achieving the "runway" and AI landing on Carrier. There's a new DynamicAirport_01_F CfgVehicle (that inherits from AirportBase class) that can be attached to say an aircraft carrier or any other object. It will then be picked up by aircraft as a legit runway to land on. I tested this out by attaching it to an object on a road... and indeed AI and autopilot will land on the road (or atleast attempt to).

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For those of you working on any LHD or CVN etc

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 2:57 PM

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@still trail its not via attachTo? Its creating it at the location?

still trail May 4, 2017, 3:01 PM

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the carrier is built same way LHD is, via an attachTo script. That script includes not only the carrier parts but also DynamicAirport_01_F. That object has ILS config entries exact same as how terrain airport/runways are defined

zenith quartz May 4, 2017, 3:19 PM

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my tank keeps shooting in the same position even if i turn the turret.
I've double checked

                gunEnd = "gunend_1";

in the turret definition and i've verified that those points do turn. Am i missing something else?

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                animationSourceGun = "gun_1";```

wraith tendon May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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Check your model.cfg if all points move with the turret (are linked together)

zenith quartz May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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already did

wraith tendon May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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"gunbet_1","Turret"

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that stuff

zenith quartz May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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tested in game too

wraith tendon May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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check again 😄

zenith quartz May 4, 2017, 3:24 PM

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with attachto

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that's the weird thing

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 8:52 PM

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hey guys, is it possible to proxy a geometry from another model?

quick terrace May 4, 2017, 8:57 PM

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it is possible to proxy whatever you need to

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 8:58 PM

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Are you trying to just pull geom from another model? but you can proxy it ^ what pufu said

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:01 PM

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trying to create an empty model that proxies all the LODs from another object

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normal LODs proxxy fine but the geo/fire/views dont 😦

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the disappear when your not looking at the base of the object

wraith tendon May 4, 2017, 9:04 PM

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Add Fake Points, in the Memory LOD, the tell the Engine that you are "still looking at them"

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e.g. 20m to each direction

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:04 PM

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i tried that in the view geo, it made the object turn pale blue 😛

wraith tendon May 4, 2017, 9:04 PM

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(iirc ResLOD should work also)

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Either Memory or Res-LOD, can't recall atm.

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 9:10 PM

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Maca I had that problem with the ladder hatch - had to put a vertex way down below it to stop rendering out of view/dissapearing

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:10 PM

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https://db.tt/AuKmdLZRYq 😂

Dropbox

b38803a8-7f25-42b0-833f-7b5624a06c04.mp4

Shared with Dropbox

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thats with a mem point at the top of the tree

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 9:11 PM

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its res lod

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not memory

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:13 PM

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yay

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ok so, trees dont sway properly if you cfgvehicle them, ref'ing the model but if its a proxy it does 😛

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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so you have a tree as another model

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then proxy it all in so it sways?

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haha

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:14 PM

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tanoa tree 😄

cinder pivot May 4, 2017, 9:16 PM

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lol

stuck oyster May 4, 2017, 9:48 PM

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@crude sigil while you can do it that way, it might not be the right way to approach placing tanoa trees. Are you placing them on map in TB or in scenario?

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 9:59 PM

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createVehicle'ing them

bleak tangle May 4, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Why not just write a config and use their model paths?

crude sigil May 4, 2017, 10:09 PM

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they dont sway, some do, some time but its very sketchy

bleak tangle May 4, 2017, 11:57 PM

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As in the sway is being inconsistent with trees of the same classname?

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 9:18 AM

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afaik the "sway" is defined in the p3d, nothing to do with the cfg

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:28 AM

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class=tree or class=*bush defines in the geo lod the sway

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:37 AM

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Sway is tied to the vertexShader assigned via rvmat.

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:52 AM

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you sure? as i can have a tree sway or a bush sway and use something like super or multi

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:52 AM

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I tried it on my trees. Made the tree trunk super shader and it stopped swaying.

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:54 AM

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hmm what would class=tree then be used for?

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:54 AM

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I am wondering this myself. Very likely legacy from OFP.

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:55 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Named_Properties#class

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:55 AM

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There's a lot of copypasted legacy and misinformation in even official examples.

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:55 AM

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see treeHard and Soft aswell as bush*

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it has to be tied to the class

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:56 AM

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Then not sure why it stopped swaying after using supershader. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:56 AM

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and i would allmost bet money on it being a animation and not a vertex shader animation

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:57 AM

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I'd take you up on that bet. 😄

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:57 AM

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😄

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it would be stupid if its a actual animation but it arma we talk about 😛

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:58 AM

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What do you mean by "Actual animation"?

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:58 AM

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in the fashion of a model.cfg animation

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but hardcoded

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 9:59 AM

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No. not possible.

white jay May 5, 2017, 9:59 AM

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hmm ok

ebon abyss May 5, 2017, 10:00 AM

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in arma/arma2 the tree hard and soft was how much wind caused the tree to sway, soft quite a lot and hard much less.

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:06 AM

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Did a quick test. Removed .rvmat. Tree still sways. 😮

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Hah, I was half right. Without rvmat, the polyplanes in the tree dont have random sway. the entire tree just skews sideways in the wind.

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:14 AM

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ok so the there is a mix of the vertex shader and some other magic applied by the class=

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:15 AM

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Yep. It does seem logical being this way.

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:19 AM

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does only the *adv vertex shaders apply additional saw or also the older ones?

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class defines the icon on the map i think

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:19 AM

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thats map=

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:20 AM

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in model or cfg?

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:20 AM

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named property in geoLod

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:20 AM

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hmm

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mkay

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will check the source code then 😃

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:21 AM

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ALways the best course of action: Ask a programmer to dig into the code. 😄

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While at it, see if pa_sx.p3d is still hardcoded to be replaced on 24th-26th dec

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:22 AM

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it probably is. I dont have the latest source btw ^^

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:22 AM

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I know. 😄

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Dirty leak... but it was kinda helpful overall.

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:30 AM

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there are different wind anim specs for Tree/bush/hard/soft

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so swaying probably is connected to class type

ebon abyss May 5, 2017, 10:31 AM

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heh

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:31 AM

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can you also see the vertex shader animation?

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have to look

white jay May 5, 2017, 10:56 AM

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i would say the shader does not do the animation

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it seems to be a hardcoded anim

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 10:57 AM

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the vertex shader must be doing some random movement to the faces it applies to.

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Without them the tree just waves around as a big stump. With faces that have the shader (usually the leafy polyplanes), these then exhibit extra random movement.

white jay May 5, 2017, 11:00 AM

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ok that could be. do you need info about that?

halcyon wren May 5, 2017, 11:04 AM

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Nope.

white jay May 5, 2017, 11:06 AM

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to sum up everything: whole tree swaying is set up by class= and the swaying of branches is set up by the vertex shader

bitter turtle May 5, 2017, 5:25 PM

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Anyone knows how a paths LOD, specifically a stair entry point should be done? The stair is like this one:
https://gyazo.com/67105b2a6ca804132af32ef2d5ec68fa

hollow fulcrum May 5, 2017, 5:36 PM

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ermmm.. probably best to check the sample model (think it has pathing anyway..). at the end of the day though, you should have multiple start points that come together to the main path. preferably at different heights to account for terrain clippling/occlusion.

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regarding ladders, thats a little different. and getting AI to utilize them properly ... meh. probably a ladder in the sample model also though.

bitter turtle May 5, 2017, 5:45 PM

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Yeah, the thing is that sample models doesn't come with a ladder, so no reference is available.. Thinking to make some attempts by try-error method, I'll come back if I get a working solution ..

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Also I'm wondering how is this configured in CUP building (A2 had some of them with ladders)

white jay May 5, 2017, 5:46 PM

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you can use this to check a vanilla model:
https://odolconverter.t-db.de/

bitter turtle May 5, 2017, 5:52 PM

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Ops, didn't know about this page, thanks!

hollow fulcrum May 5, 2017, 5:55 PM

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ladders are effectively two specifically named mempoints in the memLod. the offset between the points has effect on the vector for the animation.

lusty ginkgo May 5, 2017, 9:40 PM

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is there a list of memory points/proxies for models and their translations?

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 9:51 PM

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generally you can name them whatever the hell you like

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so long as it matches the model.cfg and config.cpp

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Czech names are just an old convention from OFP era in most cases

lusty ginkgo May 5, 2017, 9:56 PM

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I am trying to reference ones from BIS models in my config.cpp for a custom weapon using vanilla models

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I am experimenting with the gunparticles for scientific reasons

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:20 PM

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Does anyone know how to force the driver to be visible?

hollow fulcrum May 5, 2017, 10:28 PM

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not sure what you mean exactly. proxy just needs to be present in the relative resLods.

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:35 PM

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forceHideDriver = 0;

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:35 PM

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forceHideDriver = 0; doesn't work

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:37 PM

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trying to figure out what we have on the PTS-M

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:38 PM

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i know for sure it's not a model problem, i've applied the same model to different cfg. In one i can see it, in the other i can not

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but

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i can't spot any significant entry for it

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except the number of turrets

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i'm trying to debug it since two days

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😄

golden oak May 5, 2017, 10:40 PM

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@zenith quartz Are you good with loading mods?

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:41 PM

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what values for canHideDriver do the two have?

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:41 PM

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-1 both

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but i'm not sure if the driver must be visible to be killed with penetration shots

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:44 PM

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dunno. Proxy needs to be in the fire geometry LOD at least

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:46 PM

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bool

Controls whether the crewmember (at this turret) is rendered and damageable.

1= render crewmember when he is buttoned/"turned in", 0= render crewmember only when unbuttoned. Apparently this needs to be set =1 in order for crew to be damaged by penetrating hits (i.e. if crew is not rendered, they cannot be damaged).```

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Config_Properties_Megalist#viewGunnerInExternal

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:48 PM

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Try hideProxyInCombat = 0;

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:48 PM

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nope, it's already set

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:50 PM

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what simulation type is it btw? carx or tankx?

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:50 PM

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tankx

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https://pastebin.com/vwAFnDbp

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https://pastebin.com/SiFr6eap

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class t
is working

polar fiber May 5, 2017, 10:57 PM

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fow_ija_type95_HaGo has hideProxyInCombat = 1; where t has 0

zenith quartz May 5, 2017, 10:58 PM

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let me repack

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oh my

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it works!!

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i had a problem in the inheritance tree and it got overwrite!!

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thank you very much for your help!!

zenith quartz May 6, 2017, 8:34 AM

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@da12thMonkey#2096 hideProxyInCombat = 1; makes the crew always turned out

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:00 AM

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Any reason why in the shade the objects turn completely black?

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https://puu.sh/vI8rX/27c754d577.png

wraith tendon May 7, 2017, 4:01 AM

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Demons.

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:01 AM

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damn demons taking over my logs

wraith tendon May 7, 2017, 4:01 AM

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!!!

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damnit, i had that prob a few days ago, gimme a sec

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:01 AM

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kay thanks

wraith tendon May 7, 2017, 4:02 AM

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Did you changed anything in the model?

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I had mistakenly used a wrong rvmat.

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:02 AM

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I don't think I have actually put those objects in shade since I made them

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Uses the same rvmat settings I use on other objects which work fine

wraith tendon May 7, 2017, 4:03 AM

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hm

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You might ask that Q later again. For many many many in here, its 6 am 😉

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:04 AM

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Will do, thanks for your help though. Going to try a few different things

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:11 AM

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@past remnant remove rvmat and have only _co- might help narrow your problem

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:12 AM

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Yeh trying w/o the rvmat atm

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It is the rvmat. I wonder if it is the spec map

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:15 AM

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Any as? Seems like specular problems

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:15 AM

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nah just nohq/smdi

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:15 AM

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At least its narrowed, best of luck to you sir. I need to sleep now

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:16 AM

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Thanks, have a good one

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:16 AM

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Thats for desolation yea?

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:16 AM

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Yep

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:17 AM

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You want any zombie noises or a model? Have a decent number of sounds from a humble bundle way back

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:18 AM

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I believe we got some sounds recently but you would have to ask BigBen#1428 about that. Not sure what they still need/want.

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 4:19 AM

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Ill see tomorrow if I remember, off to sleep now though.. Up early

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Ill msg him if I can 😄

past remnant May 7, 2017, 4:20 AM

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Sounds good :D

bleak tangle May 7, 2017, 4:29 AM

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Probably any issue with your _AS texture for it to be that black in the shade

tacit karma May 7, 2017, 12:25 PM

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Its the _as map

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 12:27 PM

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^^\

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 12:56 PM

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He doesnt have an _as texture, probably what was in that stage though

polar fiber May 7, 2017, 1:09 PM

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procedurals are still a texture

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but yeah, if you have #(argb,8,8,3)color(0,0,0,1.0,AS) in there, you're gonna have a bad time

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 1:10 PM

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thats the _ass map 😃

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 1:27 PM

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Yep

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 5:38 PM

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👀

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📎 m2_foo.png

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painting time! or at least sometime in the near future. 😑

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 5:47 PM

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Ay lookin sharp

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Just throw that ingame as is and make it shoot rainbows.. Or at least rainbow tracers

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 5:50 PM

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haha, rainbow colored tracers. will have to do a 'jingle special' for sure.

white jay May 7, 2017, 5:55 PM

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Greetings. I am looking for assistance locating or perhaps creating (commission type) near futuristic weaponry such as the following images. Would really help me out if there was some pack that I've just missed! ;3 http://imgur.com/a/TzrsH

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 5:57 PM

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@white jay there is no such content in arma available

white jay May 7, 2017, 5:57 PM

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How disappointing.

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😦

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 6:04 PM

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Thats a lot of $ for custom stuff

lavish mountain May 7, 2017, 6:05 PM

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converting

From what?

cinder pivot May 7, 2017, 6:06 PM

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No pls

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Its sunday funday

white jay May 7, 2017, 6:06 PM

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@faint osprey The images I linked in the gallery above are actually created meshes.

lavish mountain May 7, 2017, 6:07 PM

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If they are not your IP or you dont have permission you could get legal charges...

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 6:16 PM

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25eu/h is my minimum fee

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:30 PM

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sighes...

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undercutting mofo..

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i'd take it, mine is 35usd/h minimum

lavish mountain May 7, 2017, 6:31 PM

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Thats about the same Hatchet

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:31 PM

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quixel 3do is still fucked for me 😦

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even after reinstall

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:31 PM

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👀

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this wont make you feel any better but i loaded the 2.3 you're running on the vm, and it's fine there also. 😕

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:33 PM

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you got a AMD card?

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:33 PM

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negative.

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:33 PM

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i got nvidia

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:33 PM

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shouldn't matter though honestly. what are you exporting out of max?

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:34 PM

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well any model lol

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it gets that half transparency

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even FBX does that

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:35 PM

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no optimization foo turned on right?

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:35 PM

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yes tried it with it and without it

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still does it

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:36 PM

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hrmm... any chance you've moved installs in the course of utilizing quixel suite?

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ie.. swapped up core pathing during install?

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:37 PM

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no that wouldnt work at all

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:37 PM

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ok. that one in particular has caused a many of issues over time is why i ask.

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:38 PM

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i never did have that issue before

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just after that update

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:39 PM

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it got me once when i moved between drives. i still have messages sitting with quixel folks though. can't find anyone having your particular issue at the moment, so hopefully they have a suggestion.

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that would drive me insane rather quickly.

twin urchin May 7, 2017, 6:40 PM

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funny is that those default models work fine lol

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cube etc

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 6:46 PM

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i'd imagine those are already formatted .3do objects. maybe not though. would be interesting for sure if they are not.

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 7:18 PM

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@hollow fulcrum lol

hollow fulcrum May 7, 2017, 7:18 PM

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what did i do?

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oh 😄

wraith bone May 7, 2017, 7:34 PM

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Anyone know anything with normals on buildings

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just confused on how one would do that

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 7:34 PM

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what normals?

wraith bone May 7, 2017, 7:38 PM

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https://gyazo.com/393b429a43933e3b11b69d717fc0866f

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the tgas

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etc

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 7:52 PM

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so what is the question

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how to make the normals?

late root May 7, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Following this and making a very ugly and basic uniform to just see about getting it ingame. have it weighted and following this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Modding_Characters

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Now I need to test a RTM. When I select one in the animation menu nothing happens. Any tips on a RTM I should pick?

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https://gyazo.com/1d54bc03f5eef8e0d28ee6a5eb98f8bc

stuck oyster May 7, 2017, 8:54 PM

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try the ones in the samples

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the A3 ones are binarized and wont open

late root May 7, 2017, 8:55 PM

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Perfect that fixed it

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And my horrible test seems to be working XD

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https://gyazo.com/4120f2e225f4a05674fc5e7912a25487

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Worked how it should, thanks @stuck oyster 😃

stuck oyster May 7, 2017, 8:56 PM

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👌

late root May 7, 2017, 10:09 PM

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So to make weighting easier was wondering if theres a way to get a rtm from samples into 3ds max. I know there is the A2_animation_poses but was wondering if theres anymore besides the one provided.

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 10:12 PM

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nope, i personally wasn't able to import a RTM

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that said, i animate some bones myself between the provided poses to check it out

late root May 7, 2017, 10:13 PM

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Okay i can do that, just was hoping not too lol

wraith bone May 7, 2017, 11:45 PM

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Does Geometry require it to be convex

polar fiber May 7, 2017, 11:47 PM

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yes. Must be closed and convex shapes else it'll have no collision

wraith bone May 7, 2017, 11:58 PM

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So say I wanted to have a opening

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for my doors and such

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how would one do that

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because everytime i pack it, go in, I can walk in and on my Roadway LOD's, and all that

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but i can shoot through it all.

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walk through walls

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etc

quick terrace May 7, 2017, 11:59 PM

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i thought i answered this before: use smaller box meshes

wraith bone May 7, 2017, 11:59 PM

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alright

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 12:00 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/a0d80717c8ec9cf68a72656b6a461188.png

wraith bone May 8, 2017, 12:03 AM

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Alright.

wraith bone May 8, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Whats the maximum angle for a Geometry lod again?

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180 degrees right?

agile flint May 8, 2017, 8:44 AM

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What would be better for Arma modelling? 3ds or Blender?

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3ds looks like a far more cleaner and easier user experience compared to Blender from what I've seen? is that true

bleak flame May 8, 2017, 9:26 AM

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Possibly. Can't tell you much as I haven't used either very much. However there is a recent fork of blender called bforartists that focuses on a UI overhaul; you might want to check that out. There's a thread on polycount about it.

agile flint May 8, 2017, 9:41 AM

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Cheers Bek, I'll have a look

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 10:30 AM

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there is no such thing as a better modelling package. It's the artist, not the software.

But do bear in mind that the norm in the industy are max and maya, on the other hand, blender is completly free for commercial use, and will remain that way for the foreseable future.

Also, from a development POV, blender moves a lot faster than either of the autodesk flagship products

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 11:50 AM

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IM BACK

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 11:51 AM

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you haven't been missed 😉

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 11:51 AM

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i knew you would say that :]

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 11:51 AM

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damn, turning old and predictible then

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 11:53 AM

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well there are only 2 options... or 3. replying positively, replying like 99% of the internet or... just ignoring and carrying on as if i wouldnt exist 😄

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 11:53 AM

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lol

terse elm May 8, 2017, 12:34 PM

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@late root there is a A2 poses file u can drop into 3DS in the arma 3 samples, when u slide the animation bar at the bottom it cycles thru different static poses you can use to test ur character

halcyon wren May 8, 2017, 12:58 PM

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Speaking of houses. I'm totally at it again:
http://imgur.com/a/pW7LW

Imgur

European Buildings WIP

hollow fulcrum May 8, 2017, 1:05 PM

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@woeful viper hey brother! hope all is well

terse elm May 8, 2017, 1:16 PM

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nice @halcyon wren

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 1:41 PM

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@hollow fulcrum yes all is well... was just moving places and it took 4 weeks for net to be operational :/

hollow fulcrum May 8, 2017, 1:50 PM

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that is suboptimal.

echo rain May 8, 2017, 8:47 PM

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@halcyon wren i love that style of building. feels like home :D
small suggestion. i'd focus more on little creases and edges in terms of dirt and rust and other wear stuff instead of such large dirt patches. like distribution based on where stuff would logically settle. or maybe jsut se AO as a mask. i dunno how to properly formulate it. hope that makes sense

halcyon wren May 8, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Yeh. I'm mixing styles here. Some buildings are from 2014, from before I used quixel and blender. Those stick out like a sore

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In terms of style: I think I just captured the most north-german looking picture so far :D
http://i.imgur.com/3aaCcCS.jpg

Imgur

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 8:52 PM

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the corpses are on point... corpses in north germany everywhere you go.

halcyon wren May 8, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Still need to make it so the sidewalks fold up at 6pm.

woeful viper May 8, 2017, 8:53 PM

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in arma it might as well be folded up permanently

wraith bone May 8, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Do the max angle need to be 90 degrees to allow it to work?

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for geo lod

quick terrace May 8, 2017, 10:53 PM

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not exactly

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example:
http://newtondynamics.com/wiki/images/2/24/Convex_shape.jpg

wraith bone May 8, 2017, 11:10 PM

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Alright.

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Okay so thats what my convex shape looks like right, but I want to be able to go inside, shoot out the window, etc. [no glass or door] Will it allow it to happen

stuck oyster May 9, 2017, 6:14 AM

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you make it from smaller separate pieces

quick terrace May 9, 2017, 7:28 AM

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i've told him that at least 2 times now

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check A3 house sample

hollow fulcrum May 9, 2017, 12:49 PM

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😄

white jay May 9, 2017, 2:39 PM

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@halcyon wren Do you have a BI thread for those buildings? They look pretty cool

halcyon wren May 9, 2017, 2:44 PM

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Nothing directly relating to them.

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:02 PM

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Could someone assist me with some vehicle glass destruction? The windows damage but don't "destroy", and they only damage on one side, despite the selection consisting of both inside and outside faces

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my hitpoints are a little far apart, but if they're getting damaged, they should be alright, no?

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:04 PM

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Check for the correct hitpoint names

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e.g.
https://i.gyazo.com/d66ee9c7e3efe7ac7be7b0775cf7efc5.png

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+if possible -> You can use the glass Macro in the A3 files

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:07 PM

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the hatchback uses this naming convention: selection="glass5";

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And I've been trying to replicate that

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:09 PM

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Are all Glass Anim in the animationSources of the config.cpp?

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For myself, i made a Macro:

#define GlassSourceAnim(GLASSNUM)\
class glass_##GLASSNUM##_source{hitpoint = "Glass_##GLASSNUM##_hitpoint";source = "Hit";raw = 1;};```
So

GlassSourceAnim(1)
GlassSourceAnim(2)```
= everything set up for "glass_1" and "glass_2"

In Hitpoints there should be Config rdy for it (iirc there was something in the SampleFiles)

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Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_House_01\config_macros_glass.hpp
Ends up in

class hitpoints
{
    NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(1,0.01,0.175)
    NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(2,0.01,0.175)
};```

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:12 PM

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I've used a macro like that for a building

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:12 PM

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Same for Vehicles

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Config.cpp:

    class HitPoints
        {
            
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(1,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(2,0.01,0.175)
        };
        class AnimationSources
        {
            GlassSourceAnim(1)
            GlassSourceAnim(2)
        };```

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(when using the tiny Macro from me above)

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Model.cfg

    class MyModelName: Default
    {
        skeletonName="MySkeleton";
        sections[] =
        {
            "glass_1_hide",
            "glass_2_hide"
        };
        class Animations
        {
            class Glass_1_hide
            {
                type            = "hide";
                source            = "Glass_1_source";
                selection        = "Glass_1_hide";
                minValue        = 0;
                maxValue        = 1;
                hideValue        = 0.99999;                
            };
            class Glass_2_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_2_source";selection = "Glass_2_hide";};
etc. blablabla closing everything

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"Hitpoint"-names of them are "glass_1" and "glass_2"
Name in any other LOD = "glass_1_hide"

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:17 PM

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Ah good news, I got the front and back ones to break fairly easilky

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:19 PM

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+don't forget to restart Bulldozer, when you add new Glass' to the CfgSkeleton Skeletons->skeletonBones[]=.

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:19 PM

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thanks for the tip

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for your macros, GlassSourceAnim(2) why no semi colon?

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:19 PM

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";raw = 1;};

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It's already inside the Macro

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GlassSourceAnim(1)
same as
class glass_1_source{hitpoint = "Glass_1_hitpoint";source = "Hit";raw = 1;};

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So, Food is rdy. Helptime is over =}

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:30 PM

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alright, packing it up and testing

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thanks for your time

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:40 PM

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Just gimme a feedback if when it works

civic stratus May 9, 2017, 11:49 PM

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LOL

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ah mean please tell me that was a troll, cuz if it was, it was amazing

wraith tendon May 9, 2017, 11:56 PM

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Hu?

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I just want to know, if your model/Animations works^^

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 12:15 AM

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it blew up when I shot a window

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haha

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 12:15 AM

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^^

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 12:15 AM

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scaredt the hell out of me

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 12:16 AM

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You prolly forget to add armorvalue to it ^^

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 12:20 AM

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I used your macro

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the 0.01 is the armor right?

#

NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(1,0.01,0.175)

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#define NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(glassID,arm,rad) \

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armor = arm; \

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 12:23 AM

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Yep

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0.175 is the radius of the Sphere around the Hitpoint

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 12:24 AM

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okay, so 0.01 is a low armor value, but why does it make the whole car explode lol

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 12:24 AM

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You prolly forget to define the other hitPoints?

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 12:24 AM

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nah, they're defined.

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 1:06 AM

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@civic stratus And?

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 1:31 AM

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sorry, have some milsim training for the next 2 hours, the vehicle is still exploding

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 1:32 AM

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check your hitpoint configs again, when you do it again.

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 1:33 AM

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I'll try 0,1 for the armor and report back

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the exploding only happened after I replaced the glass I had with your macros, so I don't think its the other hitpoints I had before

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(body/engine/fuel etc)

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 1:35 AM

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@civic stratus
I know what i am talking about:
https://i.gyazo.com/2a77f75e3186fa5ce0e1c0fd6286a2be.mp4

😛

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 1:35 AM

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I trust that you do

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you're not a veteran for nothing 😛

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 1:36 AM

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Check the Vid^^

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Yeah, about that. No clue why i have it^^

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:13 AM

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yeah I dunno, what I need to do to fix it =/

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:14 AM

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check hitPoints again (names etc)

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:16 AM

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glass_1,glass_2 etc right>?

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:17 AM

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In Hitpoints LOD

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:17 AM

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yeah

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you had said = everything set up for "glass_1" and "glass_2"

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:17 AM

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Yep

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👍

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:18 AM

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thats the name convention I'm using

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for hitpoints

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:18 AM

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Yep

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Then you can use the Macros from above easily, no big config stuff to do then.

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https://i.gyazo.com/f15acf169ca896f994978ff091eed471.png

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:19 AM

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yeah, I've done that already:

        {
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(1,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(2,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(3,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(4,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(5,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(6,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(7,0.01,0.175)
            NORMAL_GLASS_HITPOINT(8,0.01,0.175)```

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I had tried 0,.1

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but it didn't have an effect so I reverted

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            GlassSourceAnim(1)
            GlassSourceAnim(2)
            GlassSourceAnim(3)
            GlassSourceAnim(4)
            GlassSourceAnim(5)
            GlassSourceAnim(6)
            GlassSourceAnim(7)
            GlassSourceAnim(8)```

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:20 AM

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afaik it depends on the size of the sphere (0.175)

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👍

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:20 AM

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so as far as I can tell I've done everything you've directed me to do

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:20 AM

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Should work for the glass/windows now

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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should, but the car just blows up XD

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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THATS not related to the glass

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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model.cfg:

{
    type            = "hide";
    source          = "Glass_1_source";
    selection       = "Glass_1_hide";
    minValue        = 0;
    maxValue        = 1;
    hideValue       = 0.99999;                
};
class Glass_2_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_2_source";selection = "Glass_2_hide";};
class Glass_3_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_3_source";selection = "Glass_3_hide";};
class Glass_4_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_4_source";selection = "Glass_4_hide";};
class Glass_5_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_5_source";selection = "Glass_5_hide";};
class Glass_6_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_6_source";selection = "Glass_6_hide";};
class Glass_7_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_7_source";selection = "Glass_7_hide";};
class Glass_8_hide: Glass_1_Hide{source = "Glass_8_source";selection = "Glass_8_hide";};```

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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That are the other Hitpoints

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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it happens when I shoot the glass, and the glass only

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sorry if I didn't say that earlier

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if I shoot any other part, nothing

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:21 AM

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Yeah, because (what i said earlier) they prolly don't have a Damage/Hitpoint config

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:23 AM

#

            {
                armor = 0.125;
                passThrough = 0;
            };
            class HitLF2Wheel: HitLF2Wheel
            {
                armor = 0.125;
                passThrough = 0;
            };
            class HitRFWheel: HitRFWheel
            {
                armor = 0.125;
                passThrough = 0;
            };
            class HitRF2Wheel: HitRF2Wheel
            {
                armor = 0.125;
                passThrough = 0;
            };
            class HitFuel: HitFuel
            {
                name = "fuel";
            };
            class HitEngine: HitEngine
            {
                name = "engine";
            };
            class HitBody: HitBody
            {
                visual = "camo1";
            };``` this?

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I'm almost certain this worked before I started tinkering with the glass

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:23 AM

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class HitFuel: HitFuel
{
name = "fuel";
};

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?

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:24 AM

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thats how the hatchback handles hitpoints

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I copied it as a base

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both inherit Car_F

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:25 AM

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Upload the Cfg to Pastebin pls

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(Or send me the config via PM if you don't want to share it here)

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:26 AM

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config.cpp or model.cfg or both?

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 2:26 AM

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Yes

civic stratus May 10, 2017, 2:26 AM

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well actually its gonna be kind of hard for you to get the full picture because I include files a bunch XD

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but we;ll see

white jay May 10, 2017, 8:30 AM

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Configs need for loops.

wraith tendon May 10, 2017, 8:39 AM

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macros, yeah

white jay May 10, 2017, 5:32 PM

#

Does anyone has experience with very thin Objects and Shadow LOD? My problem is that even though the Shadow LOD is closed, triangulated, sharp edged, the sun is kinda "glitching" through (see reference). http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170510/q79zkwpw.png :/ Edit: The Shadow LOD is one single object, upper plate and beams are connected!

cinder pivot May 10, 2017, 5:38 PM

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Have you tried a separated object for the shadow LOD? And does it do the same thing?

white jay May 10, 2017, 5:47 PM

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"seperated object", you mean the Shadow LOD consisting of multiple parts, beams and upper plate seperated? Yeah had that and had the same issue. Was hoping to fix it with combinding them...

cinder pivot May 10, 2017, 5:48 PM

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How common will this object be?

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On your map or gamemode etc

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Well try this, have the visual LOD render the shadows, test that and see if it produces shadow errors as well

white jay May 10, 2017, 5:55 PM

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Poorly does not work, thanks anyways! 😃 Also the problem only occurs at late afternoon / morning sun, when the sun is dropping.

white jay May 10, 2017, 7:46 PM

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Seems to be a Engine Limitation in thickness of Shadow LOD, making it thick and ugly fixed it 😑

quick terrace May 10, 2017, 7:49 PM

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i can tell you that a single face (or in fact a single double faced SVLod) works great

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that means 0 thickness btw

bleak tangle May 10, 2017, 8:43 PM

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My guess would have been that the shadow LOD was the same size as the res LOD, so scaling it to be slightly smaller would fix it

white jay May 10, 2017, 9:17 PM

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@quick terrace Yeah ill try that out tomorrow, forgot that Shadow LOD doesnt need a mesh.
@bleak tangle No Ive had the Shadow LOD almost half the Z size.
Thanks ;)

white jay May 10, 2017, 10:06 PM

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does anybody know how to make hats and wants to be a pal?

bleak tangle May 11, 2017, 12:13 AM

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Not sure if I know what you mean by "almost half the Z size", the x and y scale would matter as well.

#

@white jay Have you checked the Arma 3 Samples (http://store.steampowered.com/app/390500/Arma_3_Samples/) for the headgear sample/template? This page has some more information as well https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide

wraith bone May 11, 2017, 5:43 AM

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https://gyazo.com/e48861f73149338f9e19f29cd17e6231 Little bit of help with my res lod please?

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Some of the faces face inwards, some face outwards

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A bit annoying.

white jay May 11, 2017, 7:07 AM

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@bleak tangle Yeah but you know what I mean, i think Ive had a couple of mm on all sides which is working just fine on all my other Models. Also havent Made the dfference between model and Shadow LOD bigger while Ive Made it all thicker :)

white jay May 11, 2017, 7:39 AM

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@wraith bone Touch reversed faces, hit Faces menu in upper menu, hit reverse.

cobalt panther May 11, 2017, 7:48 PM

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How long have weapons supported Event Handlers, does anyone know? Last I checked that stuff didn't work

polar fiber May 11, 2017, 7:53 PM

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Since 1.66

cobalt panther May 11, 2017, 7:57 PM

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oh damn,

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I'm way behind

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thanks man

halcyon wren May 11, 2017, 10:20 PM

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Was there a devblog post about those? I dont remember hearing about those form official side.

white jay May 11, 2017, 10:35 PM

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https://dev.arma3.com/post/spotrep-00062

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search for cfgWeapons

polar fiber May 11, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Aye, was only mentioned in changelogs AFAIK. They didn't do any special OPREP or whatever they call devblogs, about it

white jay May 11, 2017, 10:38 PM

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i think it was mentioned in a sitrep but couldn't find it right now

civic stratus May 12, 2017, 12:44 AM

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So, what's the polycount limit now?

flat flare May 12, 2017, 12:59 AM

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Also @civic stratus I believe its around 100k

sacred grail May 12, 2017, 1:11 AM

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Is it true that 3Ds Max and Blender both generate shadow LOD's?

polar fiber May 12, 2017, 1:16 AM

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you can make a low poly, closed, triangulated and sharpened mesh in any software

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if you're on about using the decimate tools to automatically reduce the mesh and weld verts together for a shadow LOD: Then, while it technically works the results are fucking awful and messy in real terms

sacred grail May 12, 2017, 1:25 AM

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kk

pure whale May 12, 2017, 2:16 AM

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where is the config for the arma 2 trees in plants2 pbo?

umbral plume May 12, 2017, 2:19 AM

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trees don't have configs

pure whale May 12, 2017, 2:20 AM

#

o

#

ty

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:35 PM

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Q: Is there ANY way, to change the BackgroundLOD Color OR the background in O2? My eyes starts to hurt -.-

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

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Yes

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

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And can you also tell me, where to do it? 😛

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

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File -> Options...

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

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nope

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:39 PM

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(llooking it up right now 1sec)

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Then there is a setting called "Backgroun Color" yes, missing r

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BUT

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:40 PM

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"BackgrouN Color" -> Only changes the Text overlay -.-

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:40 PM

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it is retarded

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:40 PM

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missing "D"

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😂

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:40 PM

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so the color array format is ABGR in HEX

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I for example use FFFF8080

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:40 PM

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DoubleClick

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:41 PM

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hit F9, that does set the quadview, but also inits the background color

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:41 PM

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Ah, restarting OB did it. -.-

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:41 PM

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It does weird things to the color in D3D mode, too.

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:42 PM

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Then its good, that i never use D3D mode

#

way better
https://i.gyazo.com/54b84101c2697405fe84f951363c686d.png

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:42 PM

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You must be working with low poly then 😄

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Yeh, i use a light blue to make the yellow lines stand out

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:42 PM

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Bulldozer in the Background to chec that stuff. I don't know any better 😄

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:42 PM

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Funnily, I'm the only one here and every time someone sees me in oxy with blue background they go "woah, what is that" ^^

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:43 PM

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blue, hmm

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:43 PM

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Just better contrast to the yellow lods

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:43 PM

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urgs

#

ouch

#

Thats even worse than White/Yellow

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:43 PM

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dont use full blue

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:43 PM

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What Colorcode do you have?

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:44 PM

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FFFF8080

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:44 PM

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00FF8000

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Thats BLACK

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^^

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(what you send me)

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:44 PM

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what

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ah yeh

#

hit F9

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ahhh

#

no

#

im in D3D mode ^^

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:44 PM

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Ah, mom

#

ohmy

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https://i.gyazo.com/3fd6aa3277d39237a2bc24d0d7d3a348.png

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:45 PM

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wtf

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:45 PM

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lol

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Thats my OB with your Settings 😂

#

bottom right is D3D enabled

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:46 PM

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http://i.imgur.com/xVcwOj7.png

Imgur

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:46 PM

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what the

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Thats not the color you gave me 😦

#

Yeah, FFFF8080 = Black for me

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:47 PM

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Its black for me too upon startup

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but once I F9 to go to quadview its fine

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:47 PM

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I start with 4View

halcyon wren May 12, 2017, 12:48 PM

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Ok, try ditching the first FF

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so its just FF8080

wraith tendon May 12, 2017, 12:48 PM

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aahhhh

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But once in D3D mode -> Turns Red again oO

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Silly OB, y u do dis

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I better stick with Grey ( 00C0C0C0 ), stays gray, even in D3D Mode

quick terrace May 12, 2017, 2:47 PM

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^^

zenith quartz May 12, 2017, 3:42 PM

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Does anyone played a bit with planes configuration?

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samples don't have physx wheels, A3 planes have them

#

i've set them up, but i can't take off 😄

wraith bone May 12, 2017, 11:21 PM

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Whenever I open my buldozer it just crashes, is there anyone who has the path I can personally use?

#

Found one, nevermind on topic above

wraith bone May 13, 2017, 12:39 AM

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Nevermind its still fucked, can anyone help?

rich trail May 13, 2017, 1:24 PM

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Try the 32-bit .exe

quartz ridge May 13, 2017, 5:08 PM

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Someone know why my shadows is fucked? My object then light is behind : https://gyazo.com/4bd1fd0b201d13cf38423fdd27c2ae02 but if light coming front https://gyazo.com/9e8b166f1e962523f2e80e8c64a81184 nothing wrong with the last picture. Sorry for my english 😦

hollow fulcrum May 13, 2017, 5:13 PM

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ermmm... shadowLods need to be closed/convex objects.

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not really much to it beyond that.

quartz ridge May 13, 2017, 5:15 PM

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Thanks I try.

white jay May 13, 2017, 7:03 PM

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i think only closed, triangualted and sharp

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#ShadowVolume

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not convex like geo or so

hollow fulcrum May 13, 2017, 7:11 PM

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that is correct actually. ignore my flailing about.

polar fiber May 13, 2017, 7:16 PM

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having the shadow parts convex does sometimes help their projection on other parts of the mesh though

cobalt panther May 13, 2017, 7:18 PM

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So, I had an idea to overhaul Object Builders UI, I'm sick of looking at it and want to kinda bring it into modern looks, I swear the Icons and such used to be directly replacable, does anyone know where they disappeared to?

hollow fulcrum May 13, 2017, 7:35 PM

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hrmm... it has been some years since i looked at any of that in depth. i used to have a very custom setup. but that went away ... i want to say with the tools upgrade between a2 and a3.

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i also want to say they removed some functionality regarding this, but don't quote me on that. would be happy to be 'proven wrong' as it were though. 😃

cobalt panther May 13, 2017, 7:44 PM

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I'm asking about, I'd really like to bring it to 2015 at least, nice dark colours, better icons etc

hollow fulcrum May 13, 2017, 7:46 PM

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the dark color foo was what really mattered to me. it could use a face lift for sure though.

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 8:55 PM

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sprinkling glitter on a turd 💩

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 8:58 PM

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hi, I'm trying to convert a BTR-40 car to carx. So far I got the suspension working somewhat, but the wheels don't turn. The wheels do turn in buldozer though, just not in game. The config for physx and wheels is here, it comes from a working model: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24569833/ the part for the wheels for dampers and wheels of model.cfg is here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24569836/

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 8:58 PM

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for me its the little annoyances in controlls that bug me. Like when you paste some stuff into another LOD, it creates a new section even though materials and textures are the same as already present stuff

#

@wispy orchid does it drive and handle normally otherwise ?

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if it doesnt turn ingame but in buldozer normally the animationsource is to blame

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 9:03 PM

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need to check

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well, it drives and turns , sharp turns tend to get the inner rear wheel lifted it seems

wraith tendon May 13, 2017, 9:05 PM

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Dscha - Today at 11:02 PM
wheel anims in class animationSources { ?```
😄

#

had the same thought

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 9:06 PM

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ah, that's needed for cars as it is for planes? e.g. change the source in model.cfg and then declare in config.cpp?

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 9:08 PM

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no it isnt

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idk cant see any errors in the configs. Maybe your skeleton has an error in it? didnt post that

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 9:13 PM

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thanks for the check, here's the skeleton: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24569918/

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 9:24 PM

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driveOnComponent[] =
{
"wheel_1_1",
"wheel_1_2",
"wheel_2_1",
"wheel_2_2"
};
does not belong in a carX

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plus your physx LOD should not have wheels modelled in it

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 9:26 PM

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ok , I removed the driveOnComponent and tested, no change. The physX lod is the geo lod minus the wheels

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 9:27 PM

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ok, with this physx stuff you never know how its gonna react to such disturbances

wispy orchid May 13, 2017, 9:38 PM

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there's a lot in the unknown when it comes to it, at least for me

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 9:48 PM

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i started working on tank physx in 2015 ... and yet there are still things that are just plain bonkers and not fixable without direct access to the full diagnostics tools ... i had a tank that just handled extremely poorly and i gave up for a while. After some time and some patches (even though no changelog regarding physx) it just worked alright. There are other issues that i still havent been able to figure out...

polar fiber May 13, 2017, 9:54 PM

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selection in boneName should be the visible wheel

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e.g. boneName = "wheel_1_1";

woeful viper May 13, 2017, 10:02 PM

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no, it should be the damper bone

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wheel_1_1 (the visible wheel) should be child of damperbone of course, but thats what he did

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at least for tanks...

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hm i just looked at the mrap01 and it has wheel_1_1