#arma3_model

one reason could be BI doesnt remember how it works either and as such forgot it for the other vehicle classes

upon destruction model is replaced by mesh defined in Wreck lod

or it behaves differently based on the simulation class

usually proxy - if destructWreck is used and there is no wreck model then you will most likely end with character going through destroyed model

any ideas why planes then have a separate class for their wrecks?

found also this:
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/73538-destrtype-destructwreck/

seems one needs LandContact in WreckLod too

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#destrType

https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/97282-wreck/

well X3KJ this stuff is like 10+ years old

and has no info basically

then change the plane to destructdefault and see if there is any difference

maybe encoding dude wanted to make them placeable in editor too?

yeah, for missions and so on

there is no link from normal model to wreck in config. Its LOD only

and destructtype is for hardcode "kill" behaviour (flatten for tents, fallover for trees, etc) - apparent from the other destruct types

yes that part make sense

maybe wreck destructtype is required for the model to make these weird ass "craters" when impacting ground at speed?

that part that doesnt make sense to me:
if no class is required for wreck, why are plane wrecks based on thing and not on static like the others

overwrite their class properties with something different and see if those are even spawned by plane death. I doubt it

either it has some specific reason due to simulation or some of the properties down the inheritance tree, or the config guy just thought "wow there is class PlaneWreck - lets just use that" (there is also one for Car, Truck, etc)

    class Wreck: Thing
        mapSize = 12.65;
        displayName = "Wreck";
        accuracy = 0.5;
        editorCategory = "EdCat_Wrecks";
        editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Cars";
    class TankWreck: Wreck
        editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Tanks";
    class PlaneWreck: Wreck
        editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Planes";
    class ShipWreck: Wreck
        editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Boats";
    class HelicopterWreck: Wreck
        editorSubcategory = "EdSubcat_Helicopters";
    class CarWreck: Wreck
    class TruckWreck: Wreck```

vs

        editorCategory = "EdCat_Wrecks";
        vehicleClass = "Wreck";
        accuracy = 0;```

Anyone have a good example of brake lights config? thx.

I added the following to the config.cpp selectionBrakeLights="brzdove svetlo"; selectionBackLights="zadni svetlo";

But it is not working?

@oblique vapor your stuff is looking nice bro!

@cedar coral - missing sections in model.cfg?

@rough idol yeah, maybe I am going to look at that. I just need to include both brzdove svetlo and zadni svetlo in the default vehicle class, right?

in your vehicle sections

@rough idol yep, sections missing in model.cfg fix it. Thanks. I need to update the rvmat, but that part is easy. 😉

Anyone know why when I export my model from blender with all memory points done in arma toolbox that it is showing up like this in object builder and the scale is huge? https://gyazo.com/44d350ebc00792e915fd64a50ebc5f83 In blender it looks like this with just the basic collision model for testing because this is my first time attempting to get a vehicle into arma. https://gyazo.com/f00bc2d03bd1235379f9565aa5d15f39

Nvm I got it, forgot to save scale and locate/rotation.

forgot to press ctrl A and apply everything did ya?

Yep, I am a noob.

Is there any way to add an omni light within an object ?

Like we add spot lights, but in this case, an omnidirectional light

innerAngle = 360;
outerAngle = 360;

don't marker lights and beacons do that?

as opposed to using reflectors (directional lights)

i wish the darn game would give me an error warning when no memorypoint was found...

would help wouldn't it.

arma is always a trial and error - mainly the error part

when making an object/vehicle have the ability to be lifted, is it just have a few memory points where the ropes attach to and a bit of script?

it is possible to have a helmet with a thing but when NVG attaches that thing hides?

if yes then how?

If at all, only via some fancy extra section.

but how @halcyon wren

there isnt a anim source to hide it when you get NVG

if there was i could use model.cfg for that

help

oxygen or whatever it's called now

where is the button to edit the mass(physx) ?

tripod keeps getting trolled by physx on slopes

Might be bottom left by default

yeah, thanks.

Wasn't using alt + m

default layout of OB is like a impressionist art with a bit of 💩 sprinkled on it...

wondering if maybe someone can think of a nice trick for perspective, we have a building with a large window, and outside the window we want to make it appear as if earth seen from space is outside the window

obviously as the player walks from one side of the window to the other perspective will be lost. can anyone think of a way to correct this?

in arma or 3D modelling software?

obviously arma. there are no players in modelling software...

such limitation, much wow

making a big black open void is easy, but the second a planets placed its obvious its a few feet away 😦

you cant fake relative distance

So for a vehicle with the back tires being closer than the front tires should I keep the memory points for axis and bound on the wheels to be parallel to the front tires? I currently have them indented to be about on the same part of the tires are the front but the car seems to pull one way or the other when just accelerating. This is the model for a clearer picture of what I am saying. https://gyazo.com/46e46ed1b45df2a6c88d6caa138145b9

I want to dim the brightness of the dials in helicopter in Advanced Flight Model -- could I achieve that by making an Arma 3 helicopter? Pardon me, I'm not even sure what 'model making' is, i'm just looking for a way to begin researching this question

no, they're all part of the HUD and have nothing to do with modelling really

is there a way i could make my own HUD and stick it into a heli, replacing the default one?

The dialogs for the AFM dials are probably in the config somewhere

at least I know now that I'm dealing with the HUD heh

all helis use the same HUD, as far as i can see, so there must be one set of instructions that cover all of them

check the control classes that are listed under the RscUnitInfoAirRTDFullDigital and RscUnitInfoAirRTDBasic

and any other RTD unit info classes there might be

but really this sort of thing belongs in #arma3_scripting and #arma3_config

right, i guess i'm not building a model -- ok thanks for tips

@umbral plume what is that

trabant p601a

❤ Trabbi

Yeah a friend of mine wanted it and says its his favorite, I haven't really seen it before but one of our modelers made it for him so I am just setting up all the memory points and configs.

Its THE Car (Yeah, lets call it a car) of the German Democratic Republic. Like a part of the German History

rennpappe

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/259342887840300106/E5292F330C5F5FFDFA931329112B768CF2B1F5A2/ <--- Now to figure out the texturing side of things.

so how does overlapping uvs affect arma?

We havnt got our WIPS out for a while! to busy life bashing haha. Lets see whats everyones working on! Get ur WIPS out!!!

Sharing some of our mod teams WIPs
http://iforce.co.nz/i/pynvy4br.gjb.jpg

Modeled by cronicash
http://puu.sh/qXdgn/fcf9e2f782.jpg
My first 3d object. Still very much work in progress.

http://i.imgur.com/aFk9017.jpg
Workbench by Nex

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/uga/259342887840300106/E5292F330C5F5FFDFA931329112B768CF2B1F5A2/
And of course the Trabant, modeled by Cronicash and configged by ANixon.

very nice ben which mod is it from?

Well, most of that will go into the Desolation mod reboot REDUX. Structures and vegetation will all go into the new San Juan Island terrain, and ALL assets will get released seperatly for anyone to use. Just felt like contributing to the WIP thread. There is already dozens of other assets made, and probably another 100 or so still to go.

cool, never played desolation, whats it all about?

Desolation was a mod by OPTiX. Hardcore survival mod. Was a good mix of DayZ mod and Origins. But it died out a few months ago.

ah right, heres what im currently working on http://i.imgur.com/Bqky4Xd.png and http://i.imgur.com/pBYldgC.jpg

Landing craft. Nice!

anyone got any tips for UV unwrapping and/or texturing and/or normal maps, ive got up to the point of doing this and i seem to be loosing interest coz its so bloody hard (mainly UV unwrapping, otherwise ide ask in the #arma3_texture thing)

very nice

Ran into the same issue for the longest time.

for normal maps I paint them and use Nvidia tools on photoshop

Just ask Nex. He walked me through it. Suggest watching different tutorials and start off with simple objects. Different tutorials may give you a better understanding.

yeah, like i started off just doing the wheels, which didnt turn out too bad http://imgur.com/ipvArJg. ive got a mate who is able to walk me through it all, the main issue i have is that i made the Low poly the same size as the HP so it sorta clips through, should i scale it up so it encompases all of the HP?

no, the lp should be the same size and you should use a cage to encompass the whole thing

ahh ok

previously i was just scaling up the LP and baking my normals

the other question for all those vehicle modellers out there, do you mirror your UV's so you only have half the car on the UV map? and do you creat seperate maps for the exterior? ( realise that im gonna have to do that for the interior but do you have 2 or so for the exterior aswell?

Mirroring the whole model depends on what it is

if you're going to have camo paint or writing on the vehicle it's usually a bad idea

since you can't make one side different to the other unless you give them two separate textures

but it is fairly normal to have two or three external 2048 textures on a vehicle

and the interior texture

ok sweet

wheels and things that are identical on both sides are good to mirror and share UV space for though

antennas, seats and that kind of thing that are copied multiple times

yeah thats what i did, had the wheels be one texture map

the plan was to have the wheels one, the shell another, then all the extra small little bits another

For UV's i bought a program called Headus UV layout, as for normals currently I use the push modifier in max to increase the LP size over the HP then bake it down in max, hoever not getting the results i like so im exploring other programs to finer tune my process

im using blender for modelling, and ima probably use Xnormal to bake my normals and other maps, wish me luck aye?

good luck haha, iv been told to look into knald for baking maps, anyone here use it?

Was headus worth it?

in my opinion yes

every penny

Blender's UV tools are supposed to be quite good if you use them properly though. I used to use a free app called RoadKill to do most of the UV mapping for my stuff in Maya before they improved the UV tools. Roadkill's authors went on to write Blender's UV tools

the only problem with blender is that it doesnt support cages

I bake everything in xNormal even if Maya does it

and Blender should support cages https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPy-oNtorus

ok nevermind then i was mistaken

if you're baking normal in external programs though, you should triangulate the model before exporting it. So that the triangulation is consistent across all software that is loading the model

with xNormal this means you need to triangulate the mesh before producing the cage, because it relies on the vertex indexes being exactly the same

triangulating the LP and the cage separately usually makes a mis-match in the vertexes that xNormal doesn't like

il bare that in mind, currently i bakae my normal's in 3ds, but not getting results im happy with, i tried x normal but it came out worse, think i need to spend a bit more time with it

wow how you managed to get worse results in xnormal , that must be a rare thing

unless your model has a issue with it

like having Ngons and crap

no ngons i think its more to do with me learning how to use it properly

in with learning how to get my cages right

does anybody here know the guy in charge of the nimitz mod?

Which version? JDogs or TeTeT?

Or Randys continued by Hatchet?

the one on armaholic that seems to be still updated

Probably TeTeT then

know if he comes around here?

He does

thanks

Isn't that Armatec ?

I believe he's referring to this one @oblique vapor http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=23056

Oh yes

something very different for once... https://abload.de/img/wip2_43nll8.jpg

erm, wtf is that?

Looks like a moon rover

pretty close, yes. Extraterrestrial multipurpose allterain vehicle

question about model sizes, if I was to make a bridge model that is a few hundred meters long and abour 80m tall, how many pieces should i make it?

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Roadway

Can anyone give me some guidance on how to tackle this problem: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/194098-baking-picatinny-rails/

I'd model the rail as a single piece first and bake with that

you can do the optimised one with the detached "teeth" later by simply detaching them and then deleting edges and merging the bottom half of the rail

So as long as the UV coordinates remain there shouldn't be an issue with that?

yeah, if you don't deleted UV border edges it should be fine

The one concern I have is the plane that the teeth are extruded from, wouldnt I have to cap the holes where the teeth were detached from?

merge verts either side of the hole that gets created when you detach the teeth

the uvs should merge too

then delete the edge

ok i see

ill give this a try

Seemed to work, only issue was I had to manually merge verts in the UV map, but the result looks good

👍

Thinking about it, it might be that the gaps in the uv map close automatically when you delete the edge after merging the verts, rather than it being when the verts merge

but sewing the gaps together is making doubly sure I guess

Is there a specific point that the SmokeLauncher "weapon" uses from the Mem LOD?

IIRC it's a config parameter where it just takes either the vehicle pointing direction or the turret pointing direction and you define the arc that the smoke covers

Hm, let me do a bit more comparing. I had always used the Weapon and Magazine{} parameter to define it in the commander turret. It worked for most things, but for the Bradley, not so much

Think I see it now

            smokeLauncherVelocity = 14;
            smokeLauncherOnTurret = 1;
            smokeLauncherAngle = 120;```

but I think also it's possible to make custom smoke launcher types that use memory points in the way that flares and chaff are done on aircraft

Anyone interested in helping to create a rappelling harness model? Would be nice to add to Advanced Rappelling addon.

As in help creating a vest item that acts as a harness?

backpack slot might be more appropriate

kind of like the parachute pack or that weird new CSAT pack with straps

hmm, yeah, that'd work better

blocking phase on front frame almost done, concept slowly taking shape...
https://abload.de/img/wip4_2lbs68.jpg
https://abload.de/img/wip4_4jrsqm.jpg

what program you using?

max... not that it matters

na, just curious

looking good

is there any scala issues when exporting from 3DS max to OBJ? had some issues with it before but idk if it is fixed or i am doing something wrong with the unit setup? its set to meters

display or system?

i meant to oxygen 2

what do you mean? PuFu

https://i.imgur.com/P7VQoTB.png

impressive radio

looking good

👍 it's beautiful

what radio is it?

SEM 80/90

nice!

havent done any model work (LODs etc) in hmm couple of years I guess, just installed modo 10.1v2 and trying to get Synide's P3D plugin to install, no luck heh.

if any modo users here, let me know as I could use some help 😃

@cursive sleet you mean you have meters set as display units or system units in the 3ds max?