lol since when asking donations is stealing...
#general_chat_arma
smoky phoenix
vale valley
there is reason why extDB3 https://bitbucket.org/torndeco/extdb3/wiki/Home exists and extDB2 was phased out long time ago as obsolete
twilit oar
Its using stolen content thats stealing @smoky phoenix
lilac jackal
btw. ArmA.Studio release will be today or tomorrow
depending on how fast we can prepare the text posts
unreal rivet
congrats @lilac jackal
wispy pelican
@proud wraith it isn't....as specified by BIS monetization. Stealign is when you provide game content for money
lilac jackal
anyone experience in writing good reddit posts?
mine always look kind of ... odd 🙈
thx @unreal rivet
smoky phoenix
So why don´t you guys close A3L for example... giving only class 3 vests to who pays 15 dollars..
humble harbor
in /r/arma ?
lilac jackal
yep @humble harbor
twilit oar
@smoky phoenix people need to report the servers for someone to take action
lilac jackal
maybe armadev too
unreal rivet
@lilac jackal have a look on reddittext.com they have formatting cheatsheet
lilac jackal
also got enhanced reddit addon
humble harbor
I don't think you need to have a great text to get attention in the arma subreddit lol
gritty wigeon
@lilac jackal what is this arma studio u speak of
unreal rivet
oh well I tried 😄
fervent jolt
oh the "beuaty" of Life servers
fleet lake
@unreal rivet tried it and still crashed, 2 people with all the mods
urban sluice
Phantom is "stealing" though - He was the guy leaking nopixel, A3Pl and so on
fleet lake
and 2 people with 1 mod at the time
smoky phoenix
That stealing argument is trash... this is a game and people only spend extra money if they want...
urban sluice
But @smoky phoenix you sounds like a friend of him
gritty wigeon
]lol
lilac jackal
@gritty wigeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-2WQzoG48
smoky phoenix
I´m not friend of anyone
unreal rivet
have you added diag_logs into your server so you know whats heppening when it does crash, could be literally anything, you could put diag_logs before each server function is called, that would let you know where it starts to fall off the radar
smoky phoenix
ALL the life servers have shit from other servers... maybe the only exception is a3pl
soft rain
What a load of tosh....
fervent jolt
^
humble harbor
he is being sarcastic about it lol
smoky phoenix
But he is right, Life servers is keeping arma 3 alive and you are shitting in them
vale valley
there would be no life rp servers without the hardcore arma community years before so i suggest you keep wise remarks for communities of 1 year lifespan titles
last geyser
Where do you get that statistic
unreal rivet
rip.
twilit oar
heh lifespan
gritty wigeon
savage
sweet axle
https://dev.arma3.com/post/spotrep-00064 Fixed: Life servers BTFO
urban sluice
Did Selods get banned?
humble harbor
Life players think they are the spearpoint of Arma since the only youtube/twitch content is related to Life servers. They don't know about all those private tactical servers and stuff. that is it.
vale valley
@urban sluice ?
smoky phoenix
hahahaahhaah good joke.... there was always life servers in other games wayyy before arma2/3.... good joke
last geyser
That's just the thing
urban sluice
@vale valley Phantom just dissapeared from the Discord after FM did the countdown and wrote goodbye
fervent jolt
People's behaviour on the internet is always kind dodgy
soft rain
Shame... lol
humble harbor
good. he was being really rude and ignorant
gritty wigeon
Im glad i moved on to millsim and got out the life game
urban sluice
That's how Selods is 😄
twilit oar
@vale valley the guy with the name "Phantom Metropolisrp" = selods
vale valley
there were RPG communities in Arma since 2002 but the last mass-casual wave turned the behaviour upside down ...
finite relic
In the spirt of all things Arma, he may be unbanned.
smoky phoenix
let´s see if identity can give us more support
last geyser
Back in the day there were a lot of servers where you could play real arma (or so i heard, have only been playing since a3) and after the release of RPG and DayZ most of that went private
fervent jolt
I can tell by the way the Public Zeus servers are ever since Christmass sale
vale valley
@urban sluice ye FM banned him for trolling, i unbanned him but only if he keeps the spam out of this server
urban sluice
@vale valley Oh - A guy like him should be banned - Ripping everybody elses stuff, using things without having the rights to and so on
humble harbor
all servers should be monitored by admins. doesnt matter which mods
gritty wigeon
one of "them"is he?
fleet lake
@unreal rivet yeah i tried all that
smoky phoenix
Like he was the only one doing it
lilac jackal
like always @vale valley ppl are the problem
sarcasm mode on ppl got expectations!!!!!1111elf we deserve fix! yu no fix our life mission!!!111 we most important ppl!!!! sarcasm mode off
fleet lake
@urban sluice who are you? i would call myself a Arma life vet aswell, and are u sure its selods?
urban sluice
@fleet lake 100% sure
fleet lake
@urban sluice How?
last geyser
The only public thing I actually play anymore is invade & annex and that only on 1 server
Everything else I either played in a unit or with a handful friends on a private server
humble harbor
invade & annex was the best when Arma was in Alpha @last geyser
fervent jolt
@last geyser The pub Zeus servers can be fun. Depends which of the usual suspects is Admining and Zeusing ...
fleet lake
@humble harbor agreed
urban sluice
@fleet lake http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198182692634
twilit oar
malden dlc hype
urban sluice
@fleet lake And https://i.gyazo.com/f4f702d1bf5a5a82a38cdfa72fd03543.png
fleet lake
@urban sluice lol, how did u get his PID?
humble harbor
everybody was working together....on a public server
fervent jolt
HOw do you get multiple game bans? ... maybe I got to rephraze that ... how do you get even one?
finite relic
@urban sluice Too much to even type. In a nutshell "everything is Bohemias fault"
@fervent jolt Hacks, cheats
urban sluice
@fleet lake Not that hard to find - But check the customurl - selods
fervent jolt
that was kind of rethorical ... just figured people know that there is anticheat in most games nowadays
gritty wigeon
the 77th servers are top notch
half olive
@gritty wigeon long time no see
fervent jolt
and in a MP game IDK its just good manners to like you know not cheat
gritty wigeon
yo heisen
finite relic
Since many use Reddit, they are bound to be fooled by all the incorrect info there.
gritty wigeon
nah vanilla, but its well run with a good mission
fervent jolt
@last geyser nope vanilla ... they are the official BI servers
gritty wigeon
^^
smoky phoenix
@urban sluice So what? As one of the developers of arma 3 life mod, him and many other servers owners are the ones keeping arma 3 alive... No one can say otherwise
last geyser
I'll check them out after me and friends are done "liberating" tanoa
humble harbor
@urban sluice are there EU servers or it is an american host?
gritty wigeon
here we go again jeez
last geyser
If we ever manage to do that
urban sluice
@smoky phoenix So it's okay that he leaks everyone's server files, scripts and so on ?
sweet axle
On a positive note https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bCFJ5z1vk look at the game getting better
fleet lake
@urban sluice and what are those costs?
last geyser
I dont get the appeal of life rp, can you not just play GTA online?
finite relic
Not to condone the leaks, but they served to bring down quite a few content stealing life servers.
"Not that they all do"
smoky phoenix
@urban sluice It´s a game, first they should be working together to develop arma 3 life mods in general!!! Everyone is just being greedy af with the donations.... robin hood style... at least he doesn´t charge 30 dollars for a life mod acess...
twilit oar
Also, I don't think keeping arma 3 alive is a good term to use. I don't think Arma 3 is dying
last geyser
Its not even done growing yet
smoky phoenix
isn´t dying because of youtubers playing life mods bruh
twilit oar
thats a good joke
smoky phoenix
just close all life mods and see whats going to happen
twilit oar
I would love to see that
humble harbor
yeah, lets do that in fact
twilit oar
good idea
humble harbor
I wouldnt mind a smaller community
fleet lake
guys try go on twitch 9/10 people are playing life mods
humble harbor
if it would be less toxic
unreal rivet
@sweet axle danke for the link
last geyser
Twitch is no benchmark
fleet lake
i know Twitch is no benchmark, but thats what people see. that how people get into Arma
humble harbor
because not many people want to see someone play milsim. they cant identify with that content. Life is projecting 'general lifestyle' into a game hence why people can identify with it.
fervent jolt
"Fr4Ged - heute um 16:24 Uhr
if it would be less toxic"
twilit oar
^ Besides, lifemods are more entertaining for viewers/streamers because of the interaction
fleet lake
@humble harbor if no one watches it, how is people gonna know about it?
smoky phoenix
Goood luck surviving with vanilla servers hahahah
finite relic
Funny, everyone I know bought Arma without YouTube or twitch
fervent jolt
do you even Milsim?
unreal rivet
"goes to work/study, goes home, has dinner, turns on pc to play going to work, going home, having dinner" I dont get it.
native charm
Do we have angry life people shit posting?
smoky phoenix
I did before yes... it´s not addictive as life mods
fleet lake
@finite relic yes there will always be ppl who buy games without research. but there always will be aswell
gritty wigeon
lol, modding its self is a game mode
twilit oar
@fleet lake Twitch/Youtube weren't around when @finite relic Started playing
gritty wigeon
i have more fun doing that than actually playing
twilit oar
😛
fervent jolt
why would you be addicted to a game?
smoky phoenix
I´m just waiting for Identity to develop their life game mode...
native charm
has anyone stop question and frisk the life players for stolen mods?
humble harbor
steve, no one blames you for playing Life but stop downplaying the other mods or vanilla. People enjoy that stuff. @smoky phoenix
unreal rivet
@gritty wigeon less drama innit
finite relic
15 years. 15 years I've been playing Arma and its predecessors.
last geyser
Check out the more serious YouTube content for arma 3 that shit gets a lot of views
gritty wigeon
@unreal rivet too true i love it haha
finite relic
Or was it 16, I'm not sure now
fleet lake
@last geyser Link?
gritty wigeon
been there done the life stuff moved on, my life is less stressful now haha
unreal rivet
old-age, memory etc @finite relic 😛
smoky phoenix
@humble harbor Just saying that arma 3 won´t survive without it...
finite relic
Good joke
twilit oar
Probably would, it would survive fine
smoky phoenix
Would survive with less 80% population
unreal rivet
I found the orange DLC -> https://youtu.be/C9bCFJ5z1vk?t=358
native charm
@urban sluice that's public
last geyser
@fleet lake dsylexci, luetin09 and operator drewski come to mind
humble harbor
how old are you, steve?
native charm
there is TON of Arma3 activity that goes on in private servers
smoky phoenix
What are you going to start insulting me because you are losing an argument?
humble harbor
wtf
humble harbor
you can't even verify your thesis, mate
finite relic
ShackTac? @urban sluice
smoky phoenix
It´s pure facts, like he said you have 90% of the top servers are life mods...
native charm
I would argue pop doesn't matter
humble harbor
that still wouldn't be an argument for Arma dieing when there would be no Life mod
unreal rivet
just because they have a large player count doesnt make them any better than a server with 12 players, its the experience, gameplay and fun you have
native charm
only people who can settle this conversation is BI who probably have much better tracking stats then we do and they aren't going to tell us
smoky phoenix
Arma 3 could survive ofc, but with what cost?
humble harbor
no, it is a theoretical argument. you can't just say that Arma would die. it is purely hypothetical
last geyser
A better community
native charm
This conversation is pointless
only way to settle it would be to know which % of players ONLY play life
finite relic
Yes
native charm
and which player largely life, then which don't
unreal rivet
or you could just stop feeding the trolls
gritty wigeon
jeez we still arguing about who can get more mates to come to their party
unreal rivet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
finite relic
Its a shame since the hammer had to come out a few times as well.
humble harbor
^
smoky phoenix
yeah but you need quantity to have some money in your account...
humble harbor
oh boy
finite relic
That is the #1 problem right there
smoky phoenix
after all, it´s all about the numbers
finite relic
No, its a game. Its not about how much money you can get from it
humble harbor
tell that EA lol
smoky phoenix
hum... I don´t think so
humble harbor
I know. just saying
gritty wigeon
@smoky phoenix oh dear.....
smoky phoenix
You wouldn´t be here if it wasn´t for the money lol
urban sluice
native charm
so, how about them $localsportsteam?
finite relic
@urban sluice Remember when we had the convo about money??
native charm
snicker
unreal rivet
can we just stop feeding him already, this conversation isnt a conversation anymore and hasnt been for a while
finite relic
well, it is a milsim game...soooo
humble harbor
@urban sluice I always wonder how those people could achieve something in live with such an attitude...
urban sluice
Agreed
finite relic
If you want GTA or The Sims, you are free to buy them as well
smoky phoenix
Or maybe Identity will take over life mode servers...
native charm
Is this entire conversation because x64 is crashing life servers? Is that how this stupidity got started?
unique haven
yes
urban sluice
@native charm Yeap
humble harbor
so to cut that topic. what is the yellowish beverage the BI guys are drinking in the pictures and the "scanning the horizon" video? lol
finite relic
Most likely beer
native charm
@urban sluice Our server has been memory dumping with x64
finite relic
Many Units send beer care packages to BI
native charm
the clients aren't crashing
humble harbor
smoky phoenix
@urban sluice Identity is a game that is being made by asylum life mod creators... it will be a game dedicated to life servers and bla bla bla...
smoky phoenix
Standalone
native charm
@urban sluice This Arma3 server has encountered an error and must close
finite relic
@smoky phoenix Since you seem so intent on promoting Identity, please post all further info in #other_games_chat
smoky phoenix
I´m not lol, Someone just asked what was identity..
finite relic
youve posted it multiple times
native charm
We thought it was memory pressure at first, but monitoring has revealed otherwise
smoky phoenix
You drunk?
finite relic
let me check... mmm, nope. But I will check the search history.
humble harbor
so the new Nato jet from the DLC seems to be a modern version of the F/A 18, doesn't it?
unreal rivet
yeah
finite relic
Yep, multiple
unreal rivet
f18 /f22 hybrid
humble harbor
finite relic
at 3:11, 3:27, 3:38 Whos drunk now?
humble harbor
I was trying to but this conversation hold me busy lol
unreal rivet
yeah ima watch it again in a bit
native charm
I still want Turboprop instead of jets
smoky phoenix
I gived examples yes but i´m not advertising
native charm
but I guess they are saving me from having to buy it
humble harbor
'Black Wasp' niceee
unreal rivet
I trade places with you guys and you can have turboprops minimum of 6 times a day 😛
smoky phoenix
" Since you seem so intent on promoting Identity" ofc
native charm
I'm not sure what Air Superiority fighters bring to table in Arma3 Gameplay
humble harbor
just put the 30mm gatling gun on the Cessna
finite relic
Back in OFP you could add one to a player
unreal rivet
@humble harbor so you can watch it go backwards? 😄
sweet axle
@humble harbor the name of the jet is no coincidence I think https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/171726-fa-18x-black-wasp/
humble harbor
oy! I hope he get some revenue lol
glacial rain
@vale valley fix the arma3server.exe
humble harbor
the Griphon AAF jet looks like a Rafale. the french jet.
sweet axle
It's a Saab Gripen
humble harbor
yeah, seems right
sweet axle
Also note the "side project" mentioned in the old Black Wasp thread...
unique haven
I was about to ask if anyone know do John_Spartan and Saul have fingers in the development
quartz magnet
i wish the CSAT thing looked better though
humble harbor
It is russian. what do you expect lol
quartz magnet
Huh?
vale valley
there ain't no bugs in arma3server.exe , our elite programmer divisions controls the Arma borders and the explosions behind me are just QA tests of JETS DLC ...
quartz magnet
Sukhois are really cool looking jets
quartz magnet
Even MiGs for that matter
vale valley
@urban sluice that's new particle effect code 😉
quartz magnet
Also, honest question, does anyone use UAVs? :/
humble harbor
that is just their front lawn tank getting warmed up
sweet axle
https://arma3.com/assets/img/post/images/arma3_jetsdlc_screenshot_01.jpg change the URL through 1 to 7 for screens
native charm
IMO, Arma3 NATO jet looks like cross between F-22/35
quartz magnet
they keep making new UAVs, i don't know who uses them 😄
twilit oar
@sweet axle yoo when did that get released
native charm
We don't use them in my unit all that often, I do know some Milsim units do use them more often
humble harbor
yeah, we use UAVs on private servers. you don't need a dedicated pilot when using a UAV operator within your squad. @quartz magnet
vale valley
wip on that one too, soonish
finite relic
I like the Darter for recon
humble harbor
if you want to place enemy armor but don't have a lot of AT on foot
native charm
problem we have with them is they are extremely powerful
quartz magnet
Darter is the only thing we use
finite relic
reduce the amount of onboard ammo and dont allow rearm.
quartz magnet
I&A?
humble harbor
or adapt your mission/zeus to it
quartz magnet
Fr4Ged that's the thing, unless the mission is built around the UAV it becomes tough
unique haven
yeah the UAVs need more level sets and ASL option, not just a script
humble harbor
you would see a lot of UAVs crashing into hills when using ASL lol
quartz magnet
^
unique haven
set it up enough high and nope you won't
quartz magnet
that's....also a point.
humble harbor
or manually operate it
quartz magnet
i mean highest point in altis isn't more than 300m (probably less, can't remember)
humble harbor
above see level?
unique haven
yep shouldn't be too much higher
quartz magnet
^^pun intended?
humble harbor
imagine walking up a 500m hill though
I found a hill being 312m.
Thronos north of Oreokastro is 350 lol
native charm
the overpowered part of UAV isn't always the weapons, it's the thermal eye in the sky
quartz magnet
to be fair, thermals can be disabled
humble harbor
is there a new map being introduced with the DLC as well?
quartz magnet
which DLC
New map is Malden, which is it's own thing (see video)
Tanks look quite interesting BTW
humble harbor
a okay. they are talking about all dlcs
unreal rivet
malden is coming to A3 via project argo development
quartz magnet
i really hope either Tac Ops or Orange DLC includes some radio cosplay stuff (TFAR/ACRE) @vale valley pls poke devs 😛
unreal rivet
I hope orange is ships/naval dlc, would make sence sinc you have air / ground dlc's inbound anyway 😃
humble harbor
"there will be a couple of new vehicles, character clothing and gear [...]"
twilit oar
BANANA BOAT DLC
humble harbor
size being between carts and helicopter DLC
vale valley
you will be able disquise as radio <insert random type> and use <number> frequency as your weapon 🤣
unreal rivet
ah crap its a dr who dlc
feral reef
Where can i buy it?
vale valley
BI Store
glacial rain
@vale valley My server keeps crashing
feral reef
link! Nao! Can i haz Tardis? 😄
true goblet
I just bought it @ steam
feral reef
@glacial rain Sucks to be you then =}
true goblet
I hope you still appreciate my money, even if it's not through the BI store.
humble harbor
feral reef
Just watching "Scanning the Horizon"
"Project splendid"
oh my... 🤦
humble harbor
oh tanks will be next year? damn
sweet axle
Can get Jets alone though BIStore as well https://store.bistudio.com/products/arma3-jets doesn't seem to be on Steam alone yet
humble harbor
lol at the requirements
I mean...there will be 4 separate DLCs which cost 22,99€ in the bundle and 8,99€ when buying only jets. If they are comparable buying the bundle would be the way to go.
sweet axle
Orange and/or Tac-Ops might be cheaper than Jets
video does mention that Orange is between Karts and Helicopters in terms of size and scope, so could be slightly cheaper
feral reef
But its still "splendid" XD
humble harbor
yeah, but I guess Tanks would be comparable to Jets.
humble harbor
they mentioned vehicles though
feral reef
New Vehicles, CLothings, hmm...
humble harbor
well we will have the whole summer to speculate about it
finite relic
this upcoming new package will explore an interesting and unique perspective on the battlefield.
humble harbor
yeah, rather cryptic
scarlet flume
The mocap part of the video looked like carrier flight deck stuff
finite relic
...horses....
feral reef
No pls
unique haven
oh new dlc bundle. time to throw some money
finite relic
Good thing I paid upfront 😉
unique haven
I was too impatient to wait the site come back again 😄
finite relic
I'll ride the SE train until they say I have to pay again, then I'll buy another SE 😄
humble harbor
and remember to thank the Life players for keeping Arma alive
humble harbor
or the guys that bought the DLCs which aren't even used in that context
god, I am easy to trigger nowadays
finite relic
lol. I do my best not to. There are too many other things to talk about in the Armaverse
humble harbor
true
lilac jackal
anyone knows how to disable the wysiwyg editor in the BI forums?
finite relic
no, sorry.
feral reef
It's not possible -.- sucks hard tbh @lilac jackal
lilac jackal
@vale valley any chance we could get an option to disable wysiwyg in the forums?
humble harbor
oh shit. they are right. the motion capture scene is like one of those flight carrier deck crews.
finite relic
Then that begs the question " Is Orange a Carrier AND Flight Crew?" Hmmmmm
quartz magnet
the video implied that the mocap stuff is a part of jets, i think?
finite relic
Esp considering the UCAV is Carrier friendly and the USS Freedom bit.
But, BI being BI, whats the OPFOR equiv?
For "Balancing"
sweet axle
CSAT get the island
finite relic
Speculation is healthy
quartz magnet
i don't know if it matters though
sweet axle
Indeed, but Russia parked Kusnetsov off the coast of Syria anyway and US and French carriers have been in the Med and Arabian Gulf likewise in the past few years
quartz magnet
just pretend it's CSAT
put jets on it
maybe they have a CSAT skin for it that hides the USS part
i mean i could totally live with that
😄
unique haven
how simple 😉
quartz magnet
Hex (Water)
Though in the video, there's a frame where a dev is selecting between different skins for the Future Sukhoi
urban sluice
Can you imagine?
sweet axle
CSAT space alien carrier has a cloaking device
twilit oar
Maybe they would try to tackle making a moving aircraft carrier.. Then the 50m geom limit hits and they extend that
Would be dreams come true
urban sluice
The carriers are powered by the east wind device.
And Miller is going full-frogman in order to sabotage it.
sleek ocean
Thats a campaign I'd play ^
thin sable
mandarins are orange fruit -> few people speak mandarin chinese in china -> obvious carrier items -> Nato offensive action against CSAT at chinese sea/ pacific
humble harbor
just curve the ramp a bit more and voilà there you have the CSAT carrier
thin sable
can not confirm or deny that statement.
humble harbor
Orange is the working title since the studio is in Amsterdam. Interesting theory though
tight forge
Like the ™ at the very end 😄
thin sable
Amsterdam is just smoke and mirrors.
urban sluice
If you buy the orange DLC you become a veteran_mod.
unique haven
I'll still stand behind orange tanned women dlc 😉
twilit oar
Lol
vale valley
tsk tsk, more crash fixes in #perf_prof_branch for those who pay attention ...
languid comet
☸
twilit oar
I like my game to keep me on my toes
sleek ocean
Like a midget at a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes.
thin sable
Like @unique haven behind those tanned women. ;D
twilit oar
How orange we talking? Like oompa loompa orange? Lol
open kettle
Ayyy wassup?
rocky peak
sleek ocean
Orange DLC confirmed Ghost Recon Future Soldier
rocky peak
sry if this was posted already
finite relic
Yup, it was. Apology accepted 😉
rocky peak
thx @finite relic, won't do it again >.>
finite relic
its alright, it happens occasionally
lilac jackal
https://discord.gg/RRaPyb9 ArmA.Studio (Community Utility, IDE) discord channel
crisp coral
thx Surprise to me in 2am. new jets so cool
spark zealot
lilac jackal
@spark zealot it is not like i could post in there
spark zealot
aah, 'thought it's for that my bad
quartz magnet
@urban sluice https://youtu.be/C9bCFJ5z1vk?t=248
dapper slate
lilac jackal
nah ...
sweet axle
Pokemon Snap meets Arma
lilac jackal
orange dlc reveal --> http://img01.lachschon.de/images/133608_Heimreise_1.jpg
finite relic
So an integrated Splendid Camera in a user held camera... or ingame video recording
humble harbor
there surely are a lot of germans in here lol
finite relic
There are nein of them in Total
feral reef
Nein nein nein!
silk knoll
did anyone notice the guy hoarding all the plants in the 'scanning the horizon 2017' video ..
finite relic
@feral reef , that's 27
feral reef
Passt.
humble harbor
decent
quartz magnet
i've wanted a UN helmet in vanilla for a long time as it is
humble harbor
if there is a carrier in Jets DLC my guess is marine forces for Orange
quartz magnet
i mean you can already stick people in assault boats
not sure what marine forces would add
maybe landing craft?
quartz magnet
jets
humble harbor
they can operate from islands as well 😛
quartz magnet
yeah, but the thing is, if you have a carrier the airspace becomes much bigger
at present if you start a plane in the air in MP, by the time people load in it's flown over half the map
humble harbor
I'd imagine stuff like the Marines use. hovercrafts etc
sweet axle
Evidence for a carrier: 1) motion capture of Catapult Officer, 2) NATO jets are marked NAVY and USS Freedom, 3) US Freedom was the name of the carrier that Saul was building - he's involved with the B01 Studio as mentioned on the DLC page https://store.bistudio.com/products/arma3-jets and made the F/A-18X "Black Wasp" addon that appears to be the namesake of the F/A-181 "Black Wasp II"
humble harbor
Yeah, I dont doubt the carrier anymore
fallow tree
Carrier would not be fun in Arma
Rip frames rip servers rip latency
Fuck that
#nothankyou
#mAga
unique haven
give hundreds of frames and working physics. "fuck you not delivering this a year ago on time and where is the X vehicle???"
quartz magnet
Carrier would not be fun in Arma
well i disagree. and you don't have to use it, but it makes plenty sense with jets.
Rip frames rip servers rip latency
there is literally no reason for this to happen just because of the carrier itself.
feral reef
^^
raven chasm
Orange dlc drones confirmed
Look at the video closely
You can see it on the thought plans
feral reef
Pics for the lazy motherhuggers in here =} (like me)
feral reef
nope
feral reef
Its OV-iOX
quartz magnet
trolling too? 😄
feral reef
omg... sure, they are a plane from 1960 to 2035... 🤦
raven chasm
Its on there
quartz magnet
😐
raven chasm
I told you
raven chasm
Miero drones is probably micro drones
feral reef
There was a bigger Pic of the Sideborad somewhere in here, that text was "OV-iOX" ... but... ah, nvm. believe what you want. hf
feral reef
Pause the Video and make it fullscreen, while on 1080p^^
fierce valve
feral reef
quartz magnet
Does it say "VON" below that?
feral reef
For me, it looks like iOX
War Correspondence
MsomethingO Something
VON
raven chasm
Micro drones
feral reef
Yeah King
raven chasm
Von I am not sure
feral reef
You don't even know, if it rly means "Drones". Its so blurry.
raven chasm
Knowing whiteboards it could very wel be 10x
You can see a white area where the board is bad
feral reef
Now tell me one reason, why they should add an 60 Year old plane to the game. Only 1 reason.
raven chasm
same with the D from drones
OV-10X
Proposed version for the USAF's Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance contract. In 2009 Boeing put together plans internally to build a modernized, improved version of the Bronco, called the OV-10X,[47] to satisfy a possible Air Force requirement for a light attack plane.[48] According to Pentagon and industry officials, while the aircraft would maintain much of its 1960s-vintage rugged external design, modernizations would include a computerized glass cockpit, intelligence sensors and smart-bomb-dropping capabilities. Boeing indicates that international interest in restarting production is growing, to compete with other light attack aircraft such as the T-6B Texan II, A-67 Dragon and EMB 314 Super Tucano.[citation needed]
feral reef
Don't fkn copy the Wikipedia Text^^
feral reef
w/e, there is more "assuming" than "knowing".
raven chasm
Well arn't we all?
feral reef
So stating something as "confirmed" is far far far from truth 😉
raven chasm
That was hype
feral reef
Don_prince (AJ) - Today at 8:11 PM
Orange dlc drones confirmed```Or sadness in my case as I wanted ships badly
gritty wigeon
#fakenews
raven chasm
Its all fake news man
alpine robin
lol
raven chasm
Yeah I do
onyx dragon
meh... dont like drones
onyx dragon
removes all the stakes of dieing
raven chasm
actualy boats then tonks
feral reef
same X3.
raven chasm
I like boats better
feral reef
Naval Warfare would be just awesome.
gritty wigeon
walkable ship hint * hint
feral reef
no
onyx dragon
@vale valley does it still make a difference ordering on BI store or on Steam in terms of what you (BIS) receive?
raven chasm
I saw rumours I could make mine walkable in one way
feral reef
In SP -> Easy
raven chasm
Something using roadways
feral reef
MP -> Nope
raven chasm
aha thats the tric
feral reef
I mean, you can "simulate" it with constant "attachTo" commands and start anims by hand (as you mentioned "canned walking")
But i doubt, it would look that good.
humble harbor
of course there will be drones. drones are the future of airial superiority. sitting in germany dropping bombs in afghanistan
craggy vine
Anyone knows popular Discord or Teamspeak for Battle Royale mod in A3?
craggy vine
Ok, thanks.
feral reef
=}
finite relic
OV-10X, oooh that WOULD be nice!
gritty cosmos
The walkable C130 is impressive, but it's not solid enough for anything similar to be done on a carrier I think
quartz magnet
of course there will be drones. drones are the future of airial superiority.
-
drones are boring, and there are enough drones already (quadcopter, plane, helicopter, stealth plane, UGV...and well, an auto turret)
-
they probably aren't the future of air superiority, but of CAS - either way, this contradicts the existance of jets DLC.
gritty cosmos
With Arma being Arma, it makes me uncomfortable the way you move inside, I don't think you'd be able to get the fidelity you need to facilitate ship to ship small arms combat
@quartz magnet What about an EOD bot with a Wall-E variant?
quartz magnet
well there's that remote designator thing...
raven chasm
As someone who is used to move around on a lot of different ships quickly on a photograpic memory copy of the blueprint, I can say there is a lot of opportunitys and those are challenging aswell as ships are mazes
last geyser
got a probably stupid question but here goes anyways
how to correctly use flares when flying heli or jet
the ai never gets hit by my AA missles but I seem to get hit 80% of the time despite flaring
quartz magnet
the AI have somewhat perfect reaction times to missiles
which they've apparently tweaked in dev
i just dump flares once or twice when the missile is closer
i do wish that arma let us deploy flares one at a time
instead of like 8 together
humble harbor
I doubt that one or two flares will help any
finite relic
raven chasm
That looks awsome
native charm
I wish we were getting something like that, instead of F22/F35 hybrid
true goblet
Well, as it seems we are getting exactly that in the orange DLC, so I don't see your point.
humble harbor
Propeller DLC sound boring though
finite relic
Think Littlebird agility/speed , with A-10 firepower
quartz magnet
I doubt that one or two flares will help any
the idea is to dump flares at regular intervals when you're in a vulnerable position.
if you do that with 8 at a time then you'll be out of flares quick.
finite relic
Good Example!
quartz magnet
humble harbor
yeah, I know how they are supposed to work. Isn't there an option to switch between fire modes though? or is that only for RHS and stuff?
unique haven
funny thing is that "countermeasure mode" key has been there a freaking long time
it just doesn't do anything
quartz magnet
#enginelimitations
gritty cosmos
ACE gives that functionality to vanilla vehicles too
@last geyser The AI's evasion of AA is not something to compare yourself to. Unless it's some cutting edge craft with a high tech, automated countermeasures, humans don't react that fast
Just practice launching the flares on whatever angle you can get that gets them far away from your aircraft, whilst also banking to a side to get away from those flares you just launched. Try testing using the radar, what the difference is between launching them when the missile is at different distances too.
autumn musk
Discord overlay in Arma 3 working? anyone?
tight plank
Hey guys, I've been out of arma for a while, how do you guys install mods now? just subscribe on steam?
unique haven
for a new guy probably just easier to subscribe from workshop and enable mods in the launcher. beware that some mods require other mods and some mods might not work well together. also mods can break some vanilla missions.
not every mod is in the workshop so don't wonder that
humble harbor
I use the Arma launcher. You can set mod-presets for your different servers/communities and launch it respectively
finite relic
thats why I also linked to A3 Sync and PWS. There is no standard, only personal pref.
but, thanks for the alternate perspective @unique haven & @humble harbor
jaunty whale
Hey guys - the PTF does a Steam/Social Media giveaway each month, and we're going to open it up to the rest of the Arma 3 community next month, rather than just our own members.
Anyone have any ideas for what they would like the giveaway prize to be, with a $45-ish pot?
Arma apparel, APEX DLC, Visa card, etc?
humble harbor
DLC 2 bundle 😛
jaunty whale
thats out? I didn't even know 😛
raven chasm
Do I smell advertisement?
sweet axle
Yep, https://store.bistudio.com/products/arma3-dlc-bundle2 and https://store.bistudio.com/products/arma3-jets for jets alone
jaunty whale
@raven chasm Not yet, but there will be 😃
Whole point of a giveaway is to drive user engagement mate
But if you don't want free stuff, that's totally fine too
hehe
I'ma buy Bundle2 for myself right now lmao
urban sluice
Am I the only one who thinks the new CSAT fighter jet looks incredibly fat and large compared to what it's based on?
jaunty whale
But that looks awesome - we'll probably end up doing that.
urban sluice
It's a shame there's no dual cockpit with this jet DLC...
urban sluice
Not a fan of mods unless it comes as a modpack.
open kettle
@urban sluice your right, there should be a dual cockpit
jaunty whale
It's too bad there's not a C130 or anything
urban sluice
It's the one thing I hoped the DLC would bring.
jaunty whale
A fixed wing adaptation of the Tilt-Rotor they have would be AWESOME
finite relic
@jaunty whale APEX or the new bundle, but I'd give an option of the 2 ( in case someone doesnt have APEX)
jaunty whale
thats what we were planning (not those 2 options, but just having a choice of two in general)
finite relic
Ive given a few APEX out this year myself.
jaunty whale
😄
We did Mafia 3 last month
but we just started up social media pages, so we figured we'd open up to non-members for their opening, and make it a monthly thing.
finite relic
My wife is pissed off at me too.
jaunty whale
Armahosts.com just sponsored us, so shoutout to them for making it possible too 😃
hahaha I'm sure she would be
finite relic
Props to @urban sluice
I'd prefer that sort of promotion to the "Life stuff", sorry @urban sluice
jaunty whale
Life stuff?
urban sluice
Gave out a couple copies of Arma + All DLC myself haha
finite relic
😉
urban sluice
I'm curious to see how the tank DLC will turn out with that T-14 and probably few other tanks.
finite relic
would be interesting
open kettle
Rate apex 1-10
raven chasm
Boats are my thing but tonks will do
urban sluice
As much as I feel hyped for Jet DLC, it feels like a huge let down to me, it doesn't add anything that unique, just single cockpit fighters with different technologies.
No VTOL fighter jet which would have been hilarious as a comment on the damn VTOL V-44X, and a dual cockpit fighter jet.
jaunty whale
Alright, gonna hop back to Teamspeak
but I'll post something in here April 1st, when we start the giveaway - we'll probably do choice of either of the two DLC bundles, or APEX.
urban sluice
I mean after all since they implemented such a VTOL feature they could've used it to more of an extent.
finite relic
Bad day to offer giveaway.
finite relic
yeah
jaunty whale
March 31st then
but it's a monthly giveaway - April giveaway is chosen at the end of April, May is chosen at end of may, etc
finite relic
@urban sluice Depends on how long youve been here.
jaunty whale
but yeah, maybe a day early so it doesn't spur any conspiracy theories
urban sluice
Pardon, conversations are getting mixed.
jaunty whale
My bad, I'm stepping out haha
urban sluice
Are you saying the 2nd thing would be nice as in a dual cockpit fighter?
open kettle
@urban sluice yes
finite relic
2nd as in 2nd of April (1st of April is prank day)
@urban sluice Jets DLC adds loads (disregarding that actual jets). Sensor upgrades, etc.
languid comet
I just spent fucking $35 on Apex because of the notifications for using Apex dlc AMA
urban sluice
That's mostly a part of the free update all jets are receiving.
So I wouldn't count the features with the jet DLC.
finite relic
@languid comet Do you kiss your mother with that mouth? A little decorum is appreciated here.
urban sluice
Though I appreciate the work they put into the jets in the Jet DLC it isn't very unique to me compared to what we already have in the game. Well maybe that Unmanned bomber is but that's probably it.
finite relic
the big complaint for a very lonmg time was no A to A combat. Now we are getting it, and now people complain..
sweet axle
Big surprise. People were complaining in the dev branch that they've given tanks a proper FCS lasing
jaunty whale
@urban sluice You forget that the DLC gives free functionality, but paid content
which is a pretty great DLC strategy
It's not supposed to be a game changer that seperates the community - it just adds on to it
And that's BI's general plan with the smaller DLC
Not every DLC can be an APEX, you know?
urban sluice
The Jet DLC and Jet improvements are quite separate in my eyes.
jaunty whale
Jet improvements are coming IN the Jet DLC
urban sluice
A lot of it is already out. Like the damage simulations.
finite relic
You get the benefits of the Jet DLC without having to purchase it. (just not the jets)
jaunty whale
It's giving dynamic loadouts - similar to the many aircraft mods, which is going to be AWESOME to have in vanilla Arma
thats my main love for it - and that's free (with the base jets)
urban sluice
Dynamic loadouts are a feature free to the game and works even with the standard jets.
jaunty whale
Which is coming in the DLC
"free features"
paid content = the actual jets themselves
urban sluice
It's releasing together with the DLC.
jaunty whale
yea
urban sluice
Not in the DLC.
jaunty whale
It's a free portion of the DLC project
It's being made, and FUNDED, by the Jets DLC.
that is the purpose of the DLC
the people who pay for the content, pay for the features to be pushed to the community at large
urban sluice
It already has a release date anyways.
urban sluice
Which means buying it or not will not change anything as there is a release date.
jaunty whale
Well they're releasing it because they're banking on people buying it
There is of course the possiblity that people could all boycott it - but then that would hurt future DLC releases.
or development releases of the mythical Arma 4 hahaha
urban sluice
And dual cockpit capabilities already exist in ArmA so using it to make the Jets DLC more unique wouldn't be too much.
jaunty whale
You've lost me
urban sluice
Like the CSAT VTOL, and attack helicopters.
jaunty whale
rofl
stiff nova
Ah this reminds me of meetings with product management and the lovely amount of scope creep . "Its not too much to add", they say.
jaunty whale
I think I'm not understanding what you're upset about
urban sluice
Though you can't take control as a gunner on the Kajman, you can on the Commanche.
jaunty whale
Well
I think the problem is with the idea of dual cockpits
Is if you do dual cockpits, you have to give the second guy something to do rather than just copilot
Which means he gets weapon systems.
A jet is OP enough, adding a jet that has a guy solely focused on weapons systems
means that jet will crush anyone that doesn't have DLC
and ruin the balance of the game and make it "pay to play" in the air
but that's just my opinion. I think they made a good choice leaving it out
urban sluice
It isn't as overpowered as it relies heavily on communication between the two.
jaunty whale
All I'm saying
In my milsim - when we have a double seat F18 fly
It stomps the AI
doesn't even have to get close to the ground
urban sluice
Any air to ground stomps the AI in ArmA 3.
jaunty whale
When it's a single seater, theres a lot more risk to the pilot, and its not as OP
but a two seat could stay out of AA range
Because he just zooms in on the flir camera
😃
Just my two cents - but I gtg
urban sluice
You know there's a drag calculator on the jets that can lock on from up to 4 KM away.
jaunty whale
talk to you later mate
finite relic
@urban sluice You dont get the Arma Tick/Tock do you?
urban sluice
If you're trying to make a noise the only thing that comes to mind is a clock.
finite relic
Its a serious question.
urban sluice
I'm not joking on my answer either.
finite relic
as a Moderator, I'm not joking.
Tick gets the improvements, Tock gets the content.
Tick does not pay, Tock Does.
finite relic
Users that do not not pay for DLC get the improvements in the engine, while users that do, get the content (jets)
so, you may get improvements in past content, (sensors, etc) but not the new jets.
So, those that pay for DLC provide you with extra functionality.
urban sluice
If so wouldn't that mean even if dual cockpit was in the Jet DLC. Tick would still have the feature and Tock would still only have the jets?
feral reef
You don't own the DLC -> You can get in Cargo
You own the DLC -> You can fly it
extremely simplified
finite relic
OMG @feral reef has finished Brokeback Mountain 😉 (joke really)
feral reef
🇫 🇺 🇨 .....
urban sluice
If you don't own it would gunner still work?
feral reef
😄
finite relic
Gas no Gas
feral reef
Exactly.
finite relic
0 or 1
feral reef
Fart or no fart.
stiff nova
haha
finite relic
@feral reef Didnt work out for you did it?
tired blaze
I randomly landed on this convo when i misclicked the wrong channel, but I have to say I loved reading it
finite relic
Some convos are "deeper" than others, but in a respectful way.
humble harbor
scroll back to 10 hours ago. those were some conversations worth to read.
finite relic
@humble harbor Imagine me saying to go back a few years, lol
urban sluice
Anyone got appid of legacy?
urban sluice
Prev build
twilit oar
It follows a trend of like Legacy164Build or something
@calm orchid Metropolisrp#1561 Arma3Legacy164 -> replace 164 with w/e last build was
So Arma3Legacy166 should be it
opal nacelle
@urban sluice is the Dynamic Vehicle Loadouts thing available on dev build yet?
It's been for a while now but has to be configured per-jet so for a while only the Wipeout (Dynamic loadout) had it, then came the Blackfoot (Dynamic loadout)... now there's a Buzzard (Dynamic loadout) too, with thanks to @proud pollen for image link: http://imgur.com/lU6gWsM The in-game default for that Buzzard is two Falchions, two Macers, and two seven-rocket Shrieker HE pods.
@spring heart In the new roadmap they mention infrared sensors not working if the engines get flipped off.
Hopefully there's heat buildup
At last check of the sensors BIKI page description for infrared there's six seconds of engine on required before detection is possible, then presumably a long cooldown time to prevent this exploit.
uncut jolt
OMG JUST SAW JETS DLC IMAGES
IVE NEVER BEEN MORE HYPED
Jets are literally like my thing and I'm so excited to be able to make in depth missions with them now
maiden pecan
@uncut jolt SAME!!! 🙃
opal nacelle
@primal latch There's been and may still be further tweaks -- try the Caesar BTT from Apex for example -- but as previously stated no fixed-wing AFM will happen
primal latch
the caesar is ... not sure of the word
not good
bah if they don't do that then i'm probably not buying it
proud pollen
Plot twist: Carrier is actually for CSAT. Why not NATO? Budget cuts. :>
opal nacelle
@primal latch As it stands apparently the helicopter AFM only happened in part because it'd already been done for Take On Helicopters... oukej posted a more comprehensive explanation on the forums about both why the helicopter AFM and why no fixed-wing AFM
uncut jolt
Honestly the flight model in Arma hasn't been terrible it just had no way of simulating advanced damage effects
At average speeds or higher it handles pretty well
things only get weird at low speeds
I actually was hoping for more advanced fighter jet AI
opal nacelle
@uncut jolt it just had no way of simulating advanced damage effects And that's been addressed, see the "blinking out HUD" in the video upon a missile hit to the Black Wasp II... as for jet AI the improvements seem to be bits-and-pieces
opal nacelle
Already lost a Buzzard to engine failure after too many low-altitude strafing runs against an armored vehicle with a sufficiently high-elevation MG
white cobalt
man really should someone make a moon nazi mod
like iron sky, that whole damn fleet with UFOs and scifi style nazi soldiers
quartz magnet
Isn't there an entire game dedicated to moon Nazis
Anyway, Cessna is the only plane at the moment that has a flight model that I like :D
white cobalt
it'll be more fun in arma
i mean the only scifi nazi-like we have is STARWARS and the black order
but russian hide STARWARS so deep and the black order has no more update to bring heavy troopers
quartz magnet
but russian hide STARWARS so deep
what
white cobalt
after they shut down the develp of SW mod
I find out another SW mod with load of crafts&gear weapons
and even stardestoryer
it's shared on red bear community but, they deleted it on ther sync server so I guess they only share it when they decide to start a contest on it
oh yea and there is a scifi mod called lost dragon
still in processing
finite relic
They've most likely deleted it because if they get caught with it, they'll get the crap sued out of them.
thin sable
Dunno, I think theyre still at it. Though in sekret.. Lost Dragons menitoned though!! 😍
white cobalt
yea but still sad that the good things can't share to the community due to some copyright shit
@thin sable LOL I love what lost dragons has complished so much, and after 3 years of development they actually got that badass armor monster worked.
thin sable
Its been that long already?! Joking.. 😄 Sorry we've not been able to push out a release though. Still so much to do.
red bolt
Chortles, you say dynamic loadout has to be defined per jet. Do you happend to know what magic is needed in the p3d? I am guessing a proxy? Tried a few but with no luck.
Trying to enable it our jets
finite relic
@sakjdbasd#6542 it's not "copyright shit". This community has zero tolerance for IP theft.
white cobalt
@finite relic not saying IP theft have right, just some harmless free mod that could do sooo many goodys to the AA community is canceled due to the fear of IP law suit, it's just kinda sad.
@thin sable that's cool, lost dragon is some amazing work and perfect for alien mission😝
twilit oar
Well if they used assets from their game, I see the problem.. but if they created stuff on their own - like the halo recreation mod
I dont see the problem
white cobalt
the sad thing is that HALO mod become one of the best, but T-rex and SW are gone.
and there was once a damn awesome terminator mod, vanished even without a declaration, 😱 .
thin sable
@white cobalt yeah its always problem when using others ips. The Halo guys can use the Halo theme no problems there thanks to how Microsoft wrote its license, but its hard to organize a large group to work on something for long time like what making Arma mod takes.
white cobalt
yea so hopefully the lost dragon can be a successful project
thin sable
😄 We're original ip so no problems anywhere. Except of course if/when we hit Armas limits.
red bolt
weapon model.cfg doesn't work on launchers with a defined "modelSpecial"?
sweet axle
@red bolt no, modelSpecial versions of the launcher can't be animated and it causes all sorts of weird behaviour. Can use isSelected for some applications people used modelSpecial for previously
red bolt
da12thMonkey, thank you. For this (M72 launcher) its actually ok to just use weapons config, and then use ACE to handle the "spent" model.
sweet axle
as for the dynamic loadouts stuff. I'm not sure. Firewill has got it working on his addons by the looks. To my understanding the plane only requires proxies for the pylons, which are configured with a new simulationtype in cfgNonAIVehicles. Pylon models appear to contain the proxies for the missiles with maverickWeapon simulation
At least he said he was able to cut the number of stores proxies on the F-16 he made, down from like 40-odd to just 8
last geyser
anyone had problems with their crosshair in helicopters disappearing (while using ace3)?
last geyser
alright apparently it's not a ace problem but a general arma problem
winged harness
This is a slightly specific question I am aware but has anyone in this server read The Plague by Albert Camus by any chance?
sinful basin
This conversation might have been had before, but what do you guys think about arma 3 mine detectors?
Specially in the context of multiplayer, where mines are OP, except if there is a mine detector, in which case they go from 100 to 0 and become utterly useless
quartz magnet
well it could be balanced a bit, with mine detectors beeping, and the detection radius reduced
rugged escarp
@vale valley Is there any way to have a short talk with your game designers? I'd have a couple of important questions
quartz magnet
apart from that, to me they're more of a mission "gimmick", but can be made interesting sometimes
I'd have a couple of important questions
me too haha
feral reef
"important"
quartz magnet
I can trust Ezcoo to actually have important questions 😄
feral reef
I mean, instead of asking in here 😄
rugged escarp
Well, I'd like to have a short talk with them about working as game designer for Bohemia before my application deadline
But yeah, if you can answer those questions too, why not 😃
Because moving to Czech in this life situation is quite a big change for me, and I'd like to make some things sure before I decide to move 😄
quartz magnet
See, told ya I could trust Ezcoo 😄
Man, i hope you end up with them, will finally get decent VON 😂
rugged escarp
Haha, at least someone has noticed my spamming in VON thread 😄
spark zealot
From the latest dev video, my favourite part was the comfy studio they have
feral reef
Too many windows, too many Plants, too much light.
0 / 10 Bunker rating.
unreal rivet
also every pic/vid coming from BI seems to have them drinking berocca by the gallon
spark zealot
I really wish they did a bohemia insider or something 😄
gritty cosmos
Yep, but only if it shows the room with wall to wall monitors, scrolling through contstantly updating social media feeds, all showing tweets and posts with keywords relating to "optimization" "rewrite engine" "low fps". There's one guy in there Clockwork Orange style with the eye hooks and eye drops. God bless.
proud pollen
I just noticed that - if you rewatch the Scanning Horizon 2017 video - flares are renamed to "CM Burst" in the top right.
So I'm guessing we have the option to toggle between burst and single modes.
spark zealot
I think you can right now? Atleast with ACE
Well atleast 100% some mods like RHS have that feature
proud pollen
Not in vanilla.
white cobalt
sm on aircraft? why
spark zealot
I'm wondering if adjusting loadouts will have anything else to offer like differnt flare setups and other things
native charm
Most aircraft can't really switch up countermeasure loadouts except ratio of chaff/flares
proud pollen
I doubt it for flares, but I do hope we have the option to hide pylons on the F/A-181 and Shikra for that stealthy look. :3
white cobalt
naa it's flares, the position of it
but you can tell NATO are really damned, using the obsolete aircraft to recreate advanced fighter in 2035, but F35 flying around during 09.
but CSAT, holy shit they got that crazy ass sci fi VTOL
proud pollen
Tbh, though I would've loved to have seen an F-35/F-22, I really like the Black Wasp. The design is nice and refreshing imo.
white cobalt
lol ture
spark zealot
what happend to f-35 from the trailers
proud pollen
Shikra is very sexy too. Gryphon looks nice model-wise but the textures don't look that good currently.
native charm
I thought Jets DLC CSAT wasn't VTOL
white cobalt
tho it is the year of 2035, F35 become so old in that time
native charm
are you nuts?
white cobalt
rabbit im talking aboot that VTOL in APEX
native charm
F35 will easily be operating in 2035
raven chasm
I had a weak time today
proud pollen
The F-35 from 2011/2012 was meant to be improved but it was instead cut. It was named the F-35F.
native charm
it's likely replacement for F35 won't be released until 2040 or later
white cobalt
that is the problem, all you can see is BI decide NATO can't use F35 in 2035
proud pollen
Also yeah, F-35 will probably surpass 2050s.
white cobalt
but they can back to the black sea
raven chasm
For now its all borrowd government money....
native charm
I be more Black Wasp design is based on BI wanting to have some fun
proud pollen
^
native charm
and not have to worry about royalities
native charm
Blackwasp looks like F-22/F-35 have love child
white cobalt
😱
proud pollen
The US uses more aircraft for sure, you can find destroyed C-192 Samsons (AKA C-130Js) at the airport during Game Over. There's also references to an F-35 in the Xi'ans manual description.
white cobalt
also V22
native charm
but I'm pretty sure Black Wasp is BI art department having some fun
white cobalt
but destoryed
proud pollen
Black Wasp II is an F-22 + F-18 with some F-35 influence (cockpit).
white cobalt
yea first time I thought it is the F22
and CSAT's aircraft is T50
then I find out naaa, they are updated old model
proud pollen
The Shikra is a T-50 + SU-35 hybrid, I believe.
white cobalt
it's more SU35 than T50
proud pollen
(Honestly was hoping for a SU-47 + T-50 hybrid, I have a thing for swept forward wings but the Shikra is nice looking.)
native charm
I doubt I'll get it, but I'm looking forward to the update
white cobalt
I wish I could
but all my money is on wildland
and hell that game is bad, but I played more than 2h so steam tell me to F off when I try to get my money back
😫
proud pollen
Well I mean, it's Ubisoft so what did you expect in terms of quality. :P
white cobalt
Lol
they cheated me again with that fancy E3 trailer
😂 never trust Ub's so called "pre-alpha real time footage"
humble harbor
you should have watched some streams. I looks hella repetitive.
concerning the jets dlc I am good with the modern F/A 18. The F35 might be the most modern jet but it looks boring as hell.
also I would have liked the Eurofighter to be the independent jet instead of the Griphon
humble harbor
might be a copyright issue, maybe?
proud pollen
Still can't wait to give all of them a try. Especially that sexy Black Wasp.
Dunno.
humble harbor
yeah, easily the most interesting DLC of those four upcoming.
especially the aircraft carrier
also since I was in the Airforce back then I feel more bound towards aircrafts 😄
humble harbor
I doubt that that humongous bomber jet will be good against the Black Wasp 😛
proud pollen
Tanks DLC and Jets DLC equally interest me the most.
I just love tanking, and I love flying.
white cobalt
there aren't many infos aboot tank
proud pollen
Especially dogfighting.
white cobalt
but I think I saw T14 in that video
proud pollen
T-14 was concept art so we may or may not see it, or see it in a different form.
white cobalt
tho it's werid to see T14 like future tank when we already have T100
they should really bring back T100's big gun from alpha version
proud pollen
Malden Free DLC.
white cobalt
I think Malden will be bigger than the original
there are more stuff in the map than before
lol and that orange dlc is kinda mystery, still a code name even it's the second one
proud pollen
Red Cross most likely.
white cobalt
also I think there are some connection between tac-ops and project argo
spark zealot
Dobut it
white cobalt
as there 1st step to try to improve the gameplay, they'll update arma3- a current product