Okay, great :D
#general_chat_arma
urban sluice
Dear god he flies amazingly
He's a very good pilot
He's got a full kit of flight equipment AFAIK, but I fly with a joystick or a keyboard just fine.
Daaamn
I'd love to test flying with a joystick
Have any recommendations? D
:D
Yep, let me pull it up
Awesome, thanks
I use this one. Works quite nicely for Elite: Dangerous
Great, that's not too expensive actually
Honestly though for a few games I just prefer keyboard.
Nope, that's why I recommend it.
Sweet, thank you so much! :)
It's great for casual games like that, but then you get into stuff like DCS which pretty much requires a lot more equipment.
You're welcome
DCS?
dire herald
DCS = Digital Combat Simulator, one of the "hardcore" flight sims, so it's best enjoyed when you have not only a joystick, but also separate throttle, head tracking device and preferably rudder pedals too
urban sluice
Oh okay, sounds wayyyy too advanced for me haha
static cape
Flying DCS with an Extreme 3D pro is totally doable. In fact, one of the most active members of r/hoggit does all his stunts with such a stick, a keyboard, and ghetto trackIR
dire herald
I'm using a homemade trackIR myself, it certainly works better than it looks ; )
finite relic
Afaik, he left Discord.
tropic kelp
i dont know where to ask but i try...why its take me to shoot 5-6 bullet (5.56) on ai before he die?
even Civilian(dont judge me)
tough hatch
#arma3_questions ๐
wispy shard
Thats because 5.56 is a tiny little caliber initially invented to hunt rabbits, which accidently saw introduction in military service.
tough hatch
Heh.
dapper slate
you talking about original .223 which isnt 5.56
plus they pushed that to be even more effective nowdays
wispy shard
the difference between .223 and 5.56 is so small that properly chambered rifles can shoot both without issues. i don't see why one would differentiate between the two for performance evaluations.
urban sluice
5.56 is less effective than it should be because of the way Arma models Armour. It associates more damage with bigger calibres and the velocity of impact. Armour simply gives the unit more hit points for the purpose of the damage calculation. It ignores the physics that velocity is a large component in armour penetration, doesn't care about the differences in through and through verses bullets stopping in the unit and all that jazz. Considering how important damage is to the game it feels weird to have units having 100 health but that is what it is.
wispy shard
the way arma handles armor is pathetic.
feral reef
armor = damage
wispy shard
arma has actually no real concept of armor at all. the way armor should work is that first you evaluate if a projectile impacting the armor at the given angle and speed, will penetrate said armor. if it does, you calculate an estimate of damage from the leftovers of the projectile that pierce thru the armor. if the armor is not penetrated, the chance for any damage at all for the thing behind the armor is obviously close to zero.
dapper slate
yes the arma armor system is crap
because its based on damage modifiers
also i meant the original .223 which is a huge difference and not the modern .223
wispy shard
you're talking about different projectile construction?
sure.
i believe 5.56/223 can be effective, but it leaves you with a narrow band of effectiveness. like if you use a long barrel for good muzzle velocity and shoot a soft target with ammo that reliably fragments, you can put down 300kg deers no problem.
but as soon as you need a versatile thing, you start making compromises. short barrels. armor piercing ammo. barrier blind ammo. 5.56 projectiles are too small and don't have enough mass for including sufficient material for both armor piercing and fragmentation for sufficient wound channels in one.
on the other hand, 7.62 can do all that in one, if you want it to.
but then military on a large scale doesn't need to care about that at all.
dapper slate
ye but the main thing in arma the 5.56 behaves like .22LR heh
wispy shard
Well now since we discussed this in depth and agreed on the issue, i'm sure Dwarden will patch it right away.
r-right?
dapper slate
only if that was so easy ๐
urban sluice
The initial introduction of body armour broke the single player campaign and it was left like that for at least 6 months. It was impossible to progress as you needed 20+ hits to kill a guy and yet your team died in a single shot. They did at least address it many releases later by increasing bullet damage. I don't think you can really do a good armour system without developing a decent wound system however. Type 3 body armour can stop 30+ 7.62 rounds before it allows a round through but they does not mean you could just carry on fighting after any of those hits, they would break ribs and do lots of internal damage as all the energy is still stopped by your body and that plate. If all you do is make the armour realistic you end up turning all the people into tanks. So the fix is a much longer term aspect of addressing wound types and I would far rather just see ACE enabled to do something more realistic than BI addressing it directly.
dapper slate
well yes if they used system like tanks use then it could work just fine
wispy shard
the system tanks use is the right direction but far off what it should be.
dapper slate
yeah but hell alot better than what we got now
thats at least somewhat more accurate
wispy shard
BrightCandle what you say about body armor is wrong tho. A hit of a 7.62 on a type 3 or better armor will not result in broken ribs or internal damage at all. The impulse of the bullet impacting the (stiff) armor plate is the same impulse the shooter will feel in his shoulder from the buttstock of the rifle (simple newton physics, action -> reaction). There is plenty! of videos showing people being hit by 7.62 in the chest on solid, stiff armor plates made from steel or ceramic composite.
The reason why you see bruises or broken ribs at all with bullet proof vests, those are soft kevlar vests and maybe heavy revolver bullets. But that has nothing to do with modern military type body armor and the hard plates used in these.
dapper slate
thats 50 / 50 if you get it or not
that also depends on range
also not sure if in military you get latest plates with trauma pads
wispy shard
there is no trauma if you shoot SK4 plates (rated for 7,62x54R AP rounds) with 5.56.
you won't even see a scratch on the back of the plate.
finite relic
I'm with you on this @dapper slate . And yes, we did purchase aftermarket plates.
wispy shard
how could there be trauma if the plate doesn't deform at all.
dapper slate
you still get the force back even if it doesnt deform at all
thats why they sell those packs
wispy shard
will your ribs break if you put a rifle buttstock on your chest and pull the trigger?
you can't cheat mr. newton.
dapper slate
you cant compare a 762 punch with buttstock lol
wispy shard
besides, ceramic plates dissipate a lot of the energy by shattering and deforming the projectile. that eats up a lot of the impact energy.
where would the energy come from?
magic?
wispy shard
because if you utilize these plates to their absolute maximum, there can be deformation on the pack of the plates which then can lead to trauma.
these plates must perform, even if the production tolerances wander on the weak side, even if you abuse the plate and drag it thru the dirt for years, even if the kevlar soaks up humidity, etc. you don't want to get sued by a dead soldiers family because your plate didn't perform as advertised.
urban sluice
Arma 3 armor damage is not pathetic. They can do something more real for sure, but "we are in a world of limitations" TM.
And stop to flood! JK lol! ๐
dapper slate
arma 4 needs Plate simulator in body armor ๐
urban sluice
I believe a projectile that not pass the armor can even kill what is behind it.
past hemlock
This is a pretty cool discussion ๐
You could probably get a mod made for better armor though
feral reef
nope
urban sluice
Because the impacted area make a "peak" that make similar bullet damage. What i saw was a armor that is a bag filled with some extreme non-newtonian fluid. So the impac on a point is transmited to a bigger area, and the "peak" is a lot less present.
non-newtonian fluids are those liquids you can walk over it.
finite relic
Google pre-cordial thump. It's why people are killed when kicked in the chest by an animal, get hit with a baseball/golf ball.
To clarify though (for accuracy) it normally happens in conjunction with "R on T".
tropic kelp
I opend the pandora chest i see
urban sluice
When you look at how ACE medical works it just goes off the damage values for the body parts to add wounds, there is no split between plate in the API as far as I can see. I had a brief look into this a few months ago and came to the conclusion the only way to try and simulate the armour properly would be to go about defining your own values for how they behave and then back out the damage the game had applied to the body part, reconstruct the event and then do your own thing to simulate it and apply damage values again. Its not easy but I don't think its impossible either, although undoing death is going to be a part of making it work.
wispy shard
its something BIS has to fix.
the whole concept of armor is quite simple, i'm baffled that it wasn't put in the game properly from the beginning.
urban sluice
Friends ! To write about the team play solo br servers?
finite relic
I see that English is not your first language, could you rephrase the question?
undone heron
Anyone know why i'd be stuck recieving data?
unique haven
sometimes it can bug or the server has issues. try again later
onyx dawn
Where can I post a suggestion for Arma 3 Lancher? It is related to scrolling the servers list. Dev may make it smoother... know?
Launcher*
Or "1x line'
Here is rolling 3 line
finite relic
A ticket on the feedback tracker (not #arma3_feedback_tracker ) would be most appropriate. Feedback.bistudio.com
urban sequoia
Is there a way to commad driving AI to follow you on the road and not drive off to the offroad?
urban sluice
lol
soft perch
I've made a great advance in my project of creating ability to dim the bright gauges in Heli Advanced Flight Model for night flight, many thanks to all in these channels (you know who you are)
covert tree
question what is the best online mode beside exile ?
daring radish
Coop MilSim Style ๐
i think this question is a personal decision
some one say, Domination, the next one say King of the Hill, the next one...
This should be a list of all Gamemodes that are available
tight forge
@BIMINIONS xiaobiu299 spamming on the forums again
urban sluice
@covert tree to play or to host a server?
covert tree
@urban sluice play
urban sluice
@covert tree i'm making a new mod (12K lines of code right now) but there arent much players since most of then have problems to load mod in Arma 3 (they dont know how).
covert tree
@urban sluice u are a coder thats so cool i am learning a bout coding in school ut nothing close to making my own mode. what type of mod is it ?
urban sluice
Its a mod that focuse in direct PVP with some important survive features like data base to save everything, phisycal money, storage, property, property theft. Some features are really original and it take some time to learn/understand.
urban sluice
Yes i believe it have something about Exile but i have not played Exile yet so i know few about it. The mod is 100% original.
You can search for BRPVP in Arma 3 Workshop.
And subscribe to the mod.
covert tree
what does the br stand for ?
urban sluice
Really!!!!!!
urban sluice
Yes!
urban sluice
179.207.203.23:2402 and 2502
covert tree
ok thx
covert tree
working on the mod or actualy working ?
urban sluice
Working on real work.
covert tree
lol
late topaz
Hi guys
urban sluice
Hi
unborn sigil
https://twitter.com/ArmaKotH/status/780509320278634498 (no idea if wrong chat)
urban sluice
Hey guys! Not sure if this is the place to post, but I'm hosting a modded Zeus server based on more realistic gameplay tonight. TvT or CooP depending on what people want to do. My goal is to have something people can hop in and play at any time when they want a more realistic (but casual) experience default arma or zeus servers don't provide, without having to make arrangements or play between events. Mods include: ACE3, DynaSound, CBA, Blastcore, LAxemann's Enhanced Soundscape, and BaBe midTex. Kept them to a minimum so you don't have to download 10+ gigs of files :).
Servername: Weekday Warriors - Zeus Realism #1 - ACE3 REQUIRED
IP: 66.229.220.90:2302
So what's currently the best operation breakout / day z / koth type mod in arma 3?
feral reef
@urban sluice #multiplayer_coop or #multiplayer_pvp
devout wren
Looking for someone to help me one on one with a mod I'm creating
feral reef
Spambot again in Forums ...
soft perch
Does anyone know how to set up P drive? I thought I did it correctly but in P: I have only a3/ and nothing else, isn't there supposed to be a bunch of other stuff?
Like where is p:\binarize\ and p:\cfgConvert and all that other bullshit?
Some modder on BI forums says ignore P drive entirely, it's unnecessary and generally a pain in the ass clusterfuck, I think I'll take that direction for a while
south spindle
It's incorrect to have those tools in your P drive. Having them there previously was caused by the Arma 3 Tools directory being used as your default P drive location, but I believe starting with 1.60, it would give you errors if you were using that directory when trying to mount your P drive.
soft perch
Thanks again for your calming and knowledgeable words pennyworth
but I've just this minute discovered a MUCH bigger problem -- the 1.64 update has broken all my flight controllers! I mean throttle, rudder pedal, joystick
I thought it was just here but apparently I'm not the only one
south spindle
Yeah I've heard the same from some people
soft perch
this is the first thing in Arma that has SERIOUSLY fucking made me angry, I think I better stay off forums for the rest of the evening
I'll come back when I can keep a civil tongue
twilit sundial
Can anyone recommend a good blood/gore mod for Arma 3?
I'd mostly just like to see some better entry/exit
patent frigate
dont worry - you havent seen anything yet ๐
finite relic
Reminds me of the saying "if you don't like the weather, wait 10 min and it will change again."
proven otter
Real quick question ARMA mad dudes, whats the name of the object which looks like the dirt after a plane crash?
tough hatch
@proven otter Do you mean https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_CfgVehicles_EMPTY#CraterLong ?
proven otter
exactly, but I can't find it in Eden
urban sluice
As above... Anyone able to help....So what's currently the best operation breakout / day z / koth type mod in arma 3?
proven otter
I want to place down a OPTRE life boat in the furrowed ground object so it looks like it actually crashed
proven otter
I give up lol
dapper slate
final roadmap? ey
Aspect Ratio setting was removed in last dev version and Sitrep doesnt say why
patent frigate
in a future one ๐
vale valley
@dapper slate because it's auto-calculated from the res ... if you have scenarios where you need define manually aspect ratios then please provide them in feedback
dapper slate
@vale valley ok dot dot dot
vale valley
@turbid quartz no, because abuse, the usual
turbid quartz
You fun sponge ๐
urban sluice
I wish the custom emojis were larger.
floral glen
urban sluice
๐๐ฟ
urban sluice
ew, it's whale
@spring heart You never answered my question on Teamspeak as to how you were building an underground base.
good meme
simply ebic
oh
are we going to play it for an op
or are you making this for shits n gigs
oh yeah did you see my upload of the nevertell op also
I gained five whole subscribers, wowzers
brb
urban sluice
Listening to pip scream made me giggle
Ulysses was commanding that op though and he knew he would become the meme unit
I think he was focused on that
urban sluice
Regina complains like a motherfucker
karmic forge
Hi guys, has anyone had issues with Battleye preventing the game from launching? I get the error 0x0000009a and Battleye claims to have blocked files whilst loading. The game starts without Battleye enebaled. Thanks
hollow scarab
third party DLL's from mods ( guessing )
urban sluice
BE will also block the odd driver aswell, might be the issue
Would help to list the dlls its blocking
hollow scarab
odd driver
from overlay software and alike?
urban sluice
nope like i said the odd driver
fair dock
tell me about it, was just playing earlier and tracking gunshots "in front", walked forward cautiously, looked to the sides and... what the heck, the sound is not coming from front, its coming from BEHIND. hehe.
unique haven
yeah that's the biggest problem with the audio. impossible to know if it's front or behind unless you turn yourself
proper quiver
even worse when the shooter has silencer.. its bad.. really bad
urban sluice
I find arma works very well with SBX pro however, it really does add back in the directional behaviour for headphone users.,
spring quest
gaunt vault
hello guys am i allowed to ask about perfommance issue here please ?
finite relic
#arma3_questions #arma3_troubleshooting may be better
finite relic
Just remember, this isn't an instant answer sort of place. People will answer when they can, but many users are in different time zones.
gaunt vault
yea understood, thnx
keen sequoia
Anybody here playing Antistasi ?
proper quiver
i wish there was shoulder ropes for rifles in arma 3.. so we can tie our guns to trees for efficient standing 'bipod'.. like in real life.
urban sluice
hey guys
Well, except for Tanoa, most of the trees don't have branches hanging low enough for that.
where can i look for people to play with?
#looking_for_game or #looking_for_unit @urban sluice
great, thank you :)
Mhm.
proper quiver
vaaun you dont tie it to the branches, but the stem..
proper quiver
yes
hollow scarab
sharpshooters do that a lot
urban sluice
That sounds pretty neat
Vauun you wanna play some tonight? :)
Eh, I can only stand modded. Thanks for the offer, though
Okay ^^
native charm
define modded
proper quiver
you tie the gun strap around the trunk.. then u put the barrel of the gun on the inside of the strap, then spin it over a few times, that way all the weight of the gun will be held up by the trunk/strap and that functions like a standing bipod technique, we used this alot when i was in the military as bipods are not typically available for regular riflemen and its a great way to improvise and get good support for your weapon. in addition to that you will also use the trunk as partial cover for yourself so all in all its a top notch tactic
i just wish it was possible in arma 3 ๐
urban sluice
oh! that way, i just called those tiepods
urban sluice
I love RHS but our server just hated it.
proper quiver
i cant find any good photos of it but here is one of a marksman doing this technique http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/istuma-660x450.jpg
urban sluice
We might go back to RHS in addition to CUP one day
native charm
Get a better server
proper quiver
one arm support, very steady
proper quiver
some situations that is a far better solution than bipod, if u are down hill or in thick foiliage etc
u basically chose ur elevation, pick a good tree and set up. its great
bohemia pls ๐
hollow scarab
https://youtu.be/18XnQDT2RnE?t=1455 14:55 check that... its a movie but I couldnt find anything better now
proper quiver
yes great example
urban sluice
That's really cool. I'd like to see that in a mod too.
proper quiver
normal game mode ๐
urban sluice
That kind of thing would go amazingly with ACE.
proper quiver
its really sneaky too because you are heavily camoflagued aswell while u do this.. its a 10/10 strategy ๐
hollow scarab
its one thing you learn as a shrapshooter in L'Etrange
proper quiver
i learned it in the army IRL lol
while standing in snow up to my balls u dont have option to go prone or bipod haha
hollow scarab
Fin?
proper quiver
norway
hollow scarab
yeah snow also hehe
proper quiver
i was stationed far north aswell so it was total aids
wispy shard
Well anyone who has done some dynamic shooting with a rifle knows that you will by instinct use anything close to you to stabilize your weapon. Like a corner of a house, a tree, anything really is enough to put a hand against it that supports your rifle, and you have a makeshift-bipod that allows for stable aiming no matter how exhausted you are. The weapon sway in ArmA for the large part is so unrealistic because ArmA doesn't offer you the same possibilities in stabilising your rifle with objects around you.
proper quiver
yeayh its true
you even user ur buddy's ass cheeks if necessary to get some stabilization
wispy shard
Also someone at BIS should have their head whacked for weapon sway on bipod supported weapons of 10kg+ like Navid, lynx etc. Even if you're coughing your lungs, no way you'll actually make such a heavy weapon move noticeably at all because you rest it entirely on the ground anyways. [/rant]
hollow scarab
ace had this feature not sure if its still a thing... dont remember was it in ace2, probably
you could rest rifle on a tree
proper quiver
i agree jcd its a bit stupid sometimes but to look at it from another perspective its a balancing thing, if u had no sway at all it would be really overpowered.. as u dnt have alot of other factors like in IRL
wind direction being a critical aspect
wispy shard
thing is, to rest a rifle on a tree with a function a mod offers, say like ace, it will never reliably recognize the tree. the degree of freedom the bipod offers is often shoddy at best. You find a suitable position, you deploy the bipod, you shoot, you reload! and then suddenly, without you moving, you're unable to deploy the bipod again.
proper quiver
bipods are actual stupidly badly made imo
atm
u cant bipod on almost anything and if u bipod on ground u cant see shit cause of grass or u fucking stare into the dirt and gun clips into some bullshit and u cant hit anyting
wispy shard
i would put in a simple timer. if you didn't move around a lot for, say, 1.5 seconds and you're aiming in roughly the same direction, the game assumes you're trying to take a shot at something precisely and then assumes you've found a tree, a house corner, or your buddies ASS to support your rifle, and sway is suddenly reduced a lot (no matter the stamina)
proper quiver
its really crap
wispy shard
that would be fool-proof.
yes bipods are horrible. HORRIBLE.
I hereby DEMAND that absolutely everyone at BIS drops whatever he's working on and works towards 100% realistic bipods ASAP
unique haven
you know that weapon resting is already there even when you don't deploy the weapon. it detects wall on your side. the box icon in the stance indicator means that
proper quiver
hehe it would be nice if they did that but i think we are barking up a stone wall
unique haven
just need to change the values how much the weapon sways
proper quiver
st jimmy yeah but that weapon resting is pretty bollocks, it reduce sway by like one potato
its not good at all
proper quiver
๐
wispy shard
also i think BIS should add an "ELITENESS" slider in the difficulty options.
where you can adjust your soldiers abilities from first-day-grunt to spec-ops operator
???
proper quiver
same problem in dayz standalone too.. sway from hell, max aids
wispy shard
maybe it should auto-increase with hours played.
unique haven
I think it's more about the stamina related sway and that it's annoyingly making the weapon sway sideways even if you hold breath.
proper quiver
give option to use gun straps and ropes to mount ur gun.. give gun mounts inside helicopters.. then we're talking real fun sniper action.. damn that would be sick.. now bench sniping from hummingbird is cancerous
sway sway sway sway
unique haven
you can make 2400m shots with sniper rifle when you're standing and just resting the weapon for example against a pole that's left of you , not deployed. you just need to have your stamina at full to not get huge sway and the sway needs to calm down first from your movement.
unique haven
in my opinion its just not right that the sway is sideways so much. it should go up and down, not left and right. when you hold breath the gun sways pretty much sideways only. it should just mostly go up or down when the gun is well rested, currently it's the opposite.
proper quiver
(offtopic) RIP Pepe ๐ข feelsbadman http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37493165
wispy shard
Can anyone explain the Type 115 rifle to me? What is that .50 underbarrel supposed to be good for?
finite relic
Killing ๐
wispy shard
Well, i know two types of underbarrel "guns". 40mm etc grenade launchers with their obvious usefulness, and "masterkey" like shotguns for breaching.
the .50BW doesn't seem to fit in?
whats its special purpose?
finite relic
Engine block killer
anyway, time for a little bit of light reading (Everyday Cryptography)
wispy shard
Why can't they put in sensible stuff. ;_;
native charm
because some of it is demostration
They are showing you can have underslung that isn't just Grenade launcher
night mist
Can we have a secondary that isn't a launcher?
wispy shard
@native charm that makes no sense at all?
urban sluice
Future weapons makes me laugh so hard
native charm
@wispy shard The gun is more a demostration then something usable, it's showing the mod makers what could be done. if they wanted to
like RHS could be M4 with masterkey shotgun
native charm
that could be said for most people who stroke over X Gun being in Y mod they MUST HAVE
because apparently everyone needs another gun firing 5.56
somber stag
556 got nerfed quite a bit in arma 3 cuz of the vest sys, which i honestly hate
wispy shard
I wish BIS wouldn't make showcases for modders but like, real guns.
i mean what is the rpg-7 supposed to be then? RHS has a far superior version to that, with day/night optics, all different ammo types, even the ballistics work out.
native charm
@wispy shard there is also probably balancing factor, RHS RPG almost requires 1 hour training in proper operation
esp if you plan on using it with different rockets
wispy shard
@native charm i am sure the russian army spends far more than 1 hour training their RPG operators.
I fail to see the issue. Wasn't ArmA supposed to be a realistic military simulation?
Releasing content that exists in a superior form already in a mod seems utterly pointless.
native charm
They bill it as "military sandbox"
Experience true combat gameplay in a massive military sandbox. from Steam Store page
wraith hamlet
Hey there people, just got APEX. Wondering if anyone with a microphone wants to play some coop with me?
wraith hamlet
I know but most of them aren't English speakers
Though I don't doubt they are good players
distant crystal
what? most people speak english to some degree don't they?
wraith hamlet
Well I've joined a few public coop servers and have only found Russian players, so far that is
distant crystal
you should stop joining russian servers... ๐
wispy shard
he shouldn't. russians are among the best when it comes to tactical servers.
wraith hamlet
Well they are just EU servers, since I live in England but I guess I could join a US one
distant crystal
they might be good tactical servers, but if you can't speak the lingo, you won't be able to contribute
wraith hamlet
Seems no one is on as of now
night mist
NA is just getting off work. It'll pick up over the next 2 hours
distant crystal
lucky bastards, i have to go to bed soon and after what feels like a second, i have to go to work... ๐ฆ
gilded thorn
What scope is this? http://www.arma2.com/assets/img/weapons/arma2weapons_M4A1-QDS.jpg
It's an aimpoint. That's all I've been able to find out.
maiden olive
Looks like this one http://us.aimpoint.com/product/aimpointR-compm-ml-xd/
dapper slate
@gilded thorn It's a Aimpoint M2 with old ARMS mount
fun fact - that mount only used by australian army and not US army or Marines
US army used the QRP mount - which is the older variant of the newer one
normal berry
Killing engines and armour
vale valley
@urban sluice no advertising in main channel use #communities_arma3 and w/o advertising also #multiplayer_pvp or #multiplayer_coop and #zeus_discussion
urban sluice
ROGER
hollow scarab
and TOH Bell mutant helo on the right if Im not wrong
warm hazel
ONS Helo actually. No clue how they made it, or what was used.
dapper slate
FYI some chinese spam bot or whatever is still floating the forums
thin parcel
Anyone knows why in MP the radar symbol of some enemy jets are displayed as green triangles? It would only turn red when I fly very close (a few hundred meters) to them. This puts me in a severe disadvantage, Because I can't use R to lock them.
thin parcel
Not this case as I observed
I encountered such a "friendly" enemy about every 6-8 engages.
urban sluice
Something wrong on CBA side?
alpine robin
no. they have Steam to autoupdate and obviously can't connect to servers that haven't restarted in the last hour, because the update was just released
urban sluice
lol
hollow scarab
Some things never change commy
sweet axle
How DARE you update your mod
pine pond
is the lynx with 12.7mm APDS ammunition supposed to be able to kill crew sitting inside the cheetah? because that happened to me just 30 minutes ago
i was not turned out
i was the gunner at that moment
urban sluice
SPAAGS are not known for very good armor.
Unless you're the british and you make the centurion and challenger marksman series of SPAAGs, which are built on centurion and challenger marksmen chassis.
And APDS literally means Armor Piercing Depositing SABOT, so I'd say it's very feasible.
wispy shard
the cheetha is very robust and can even survive 120mm/ATGM hits. the chassis its based on is claimed to be the most armored tank chassis in existance by the israelis.
first is the chassis, second is the turret.
Armor turret: ballistic immunity from 14.5 mm heavy machine guns and 155 mm air bursts[1]
urban sluice
Does it specify what kind of ammunition from a 14.5?
wispy shard
no.
pine pond
i'm just wondering. the lynx apds is probably a tungsten round. but able to penetrate that kind of armor? is it supposed to be a "lightly armored" vehicle?
urban sluice
No, SPAAGs are not lightly armored.
Not generally.
They're often somewhere in the middle in terms of armor.
wispy shard
12.7x108 mm (GM6 lynx) we're talkign 16-18kJ muzzle velocity. 14.5mm we're talking 29-33kJ.
pine pond
yeah, but it's a sabot. so the dart probably getss a lot more muzzle v0
yes, i was playing KOTH. it displays the shooters weapon
urban sluice
Ah
wispy shard
i'm guessing when they say "armored up to 12.7mm" or "14.5mm" on APCs, IFVs, SPAAGs, etc they're always talking AP (read: hardened steel or tungsten carbide core) because defeating FMJ (full metal jacket) is much easier and not a big deal for a vehicle with double digit weight numbers being THAT compact.
native charm
.50 cal rounds are pretty punchy
wispy shard
in koth you can piece many vehicles with lynx, including cheetha. been there done that.
pine pond
i feel it's kind of retarded though? it looks really really well armored. but apparently beneath that steely exterior, the inner armor is butter
wispy shard
yeah but if a 12.7mm bullet pieces and kills the crew, then how does a 120mm bullet not blow it up? mysteries....
@pine pond the arma armor system is broken.
alpine robin
I don't think you can take any damage from penetrating bullets inside tanks, unless the tank is misconfigured
native charm
unless a tank is hit in ammo rack, it doesn't always blow up
alpine robin
easy test. place one in the editor and shoot at it, look if you wound the crew
native charm
it may just be completely disabled
pine pond
i don't think it simulates surfaces. i saw some wireframe version of it. it's basically bubbles/spheres that you have to place. and that would leave gaps
native charm
the Armor Piercing rounds in tank rounds have no "explosive" part, they just punch through armor at high speeds
in fact, stuff blowing up is unrealistic which is why ACE fixed alot of it
wispy shard
well APFSDS ammo works by accelerating a really frigging huge tungsten carbide/depleated uranium kinetic energy penetrator to like, mach 5. Armor steel behaves more like a liquid when hit by that. The effect is massive amounts of fragments inside the tank, some from the penetrator some from the tanks armor. thats why you got spall liner (kevlar) inside. should still be very messy for the crew. HEAT shape charges generate a molten copper jet going even faster, ballpark 10.000m/s. Messy. A .50 bullet is a joke compared to that.
native charm
yea, but when I hit Ifift with APFSDS rounds, it's not going to exploid, the crew is probably dead but it's just going to sit there, not combust
wispy shard
Sure tanks don't always blow up, especially western tanks have blast panels of ammo storage etc, but crew would be dead.
native charm
crew might be depending on where it impacted
wispy shard
In iraq american abrams adapted the tactics of fireing one APFSDS and then one HEAT. APFSDS would kill the tanks, but not visibly mark them killed for following units. Hence the HEAT to light them up so following units don't engage the same targets over and over again.
pine pond
i'm thinking either i hit some sort of math bug or just the geometry issues that the armor system has. but i don't know. i've never created damage models in this game
urban sluice
It's not hard to do in the editor.
wispy shard
wispy shard
@alpine robin i reproduced that multiple times.
pine pond
i must've been looking at an old guide then. there was huge spheres in a grid that represented "armor plating" when i saw it
might have been from an earlier game or an old wiki entry
"You may also need a metalplate component inside free space inside, to catch bullets that otherwise shouldnโt even pass primary armour but for whatever reason (f.e. sticking gunโs muzzle into tank) itโs possible to bypass primary armour. "
could also be that, i never checked from which distance i was murdered
the lynx barrel is quite long i believe
wispy shard
well i don't want to annoy you guys, but i definately shot people out of multiple cheethas already with a GM6 lynx and APDS ammo, and always from distance.
pine pond
i don't mind. i just want to know how it was possible so that i can defend myself from snipers henceforth
wispy shard
well i personally think this is possible because armor isn't realistically modeled in arma.
to protect yourself, i would recommend you to demand a "Realistic Armor DLC" from BIS.
I would support your demand and pledge 20 euros to it.
alpine robin
tanks can't even drive without jumping for no reason. not gonna happen
pine pond
hah, yeah. nah, they'd have to raytrace bullets inside the armor. and currently that's not simulated at all. if you shoot through a 1 km thick penetrable block of wood you'll notice this because the bullet enters at one side. it passes the penetration test and instantly exits the other side. ballistics inside an object is not simulated
alpine robin
crew cursorTarget apply {damage _x}
[0,0,0]
can't damage them
using: "srifle_DMR_03_tan_AMS_LP_F"
pine pond
i.e passing through objects your bullet may very well become a tachyon and exceed the speed of light
hollow scarab
shoot out crew out of namer with a 0.50 LRR? NO ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
hollow scarab
that things packs more armor than the MKIV Merkava...
alpine robin
shoot out crew out of namer with a 0.50 LRR? NO ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
B_Sniper_F ?
hollow scarab
eh?
alpine robin
still [0,0,0]
hollow scarab
no damage?
pine pond
jcb supposedly knows where to aim
alpine robin
using "srifle_LRR_camo_LRPS_F" now
pine pond
*jcd
hollow scarab
of course, what might be possible is that mission has some damage modifiers borked
GM6 Lynx I think they said
alpine robin
I don't believe stuff like this until I can reproduce it
pine pond
yes, it's the GM6 Lynx with APDS ammunition versus the Cheetah gunner
hollow scarab
turned out?
pine pond
negative
alpine robin
any idea which soldier spawns with that?
hollow scarab
uh lemma see
pine pond
but you need that special ammo type APDS. the other one won't penetrate anything
wispy shard
@alpine robin i reproduced that in koth. I don't know if koth messes with dmg/armor/etc. Might be, then disregard all i said.
pine pond
btw, KOTH does meddle with damage values when i think of it. the airplanes are modded for less resilience. and so are the "greek" very high green metal towers which are indestructable.
hollow scarab
I_Sniper_F uses it
pine pond
that may break things with the cheetah i guess
alpine robin
Using 3den...
hollow scarab
he is trying to prove that its not the game problem but the mission if its true
and he will succed
pine pond
to me, it's either or. i haven't played the campaign so i don't know
hollow scarab
spawn it in editor get yourself a GM6 with APDS ammo and try to shoot at it
pine pond
although ballistics are calculated client side i think. so it could also have been a cheat
alpine robin
ahh
pine pond
yeah, in a sec ๐
pine pond
and i guess gunner is in the turret?
alpine robin
yes
it's an AA turret. not that armoured
and it's a special APXYZ round
so I'm sure it's supposed to be like that
hollow scarab
blergh that sounds off but since its not called Namer in the game anything is posible
hollow scarab
yeah snipe the gunner out and then finish it off with whtever AT you got, gg
wispy shard
Note: 14.5mm has almost double the muzzle energy of 12.7
hollow scarab
wait why are you linkin SPAAG?
alpine robin
shrug
hollow scarab
I thought you were talking about Namer?
wispy shard
alpine robin
Cheeta AA
wispy shard
The Cheetah's chassis is based off the real-world "Namer" APC.
Its gun turret is a shared design also used by the ZSU-39 that is based on the real-world "Marksman" anti-aircraft gun system.
hollow scarab
ah shit my bad
alpine robin
tbh though. the aa turrets armour looks weak ingame
hollow scarab
was loking at this and wondering wtf are they talking about http://www.military-today.com/apc/namer.htm
alpine robin
you where the only one rambling about the Namer
hollow scarab
and tbh IRL you wouldnt get near any SPAAG
alpine robin
Cheeta
or Cheetah
whatever
don't question the armour system just because of this. maybe it's just that the APXYZ rounds have to high penetration... who knows
for all I know it's supposed to be like this
wispy shard
Weight From 9,300 kg (20,500 lb)
this is .50cal proof afair
with only 9 tons and far more interior volume
alpine robin
maybe it's just that the APXYZ rounds have to high penetration
wispy shard
idk about russians, but americans mix their MG belts, and they definately have AP in their M2's. i guess its the same for russians.
The americans even shoot raufoss from MGs (high explosive incindiary armor piercing)
alpine robin
those rounds we are talking about are not normal AP rounds though
wispy shard
how so?
alpine robin
idk. they are a special ammo type in the game
wispy shard
AP rounds have a hardened steel (old, cheap) or tungsten carbide (bit newer, much more expensive) armor piercing core.
alpine robin
the normal magazine rounds don't go through the turret
wispy shard
yeah because thats FMJ.
alpine robin
why do you keep talking about this irl crap? totally misses what this is about
wispy shard
well they're APDS - armor piercing discharging sabot.
pine pond
maybe they're shooting depleted uranium APDS through the lynx in arma 3?
hollow scarab
crap
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
wispy shard
so its saboted ammo like a APFSDS shot from a tank.
but it won't be FS (fin stabilised) because its shot from a rifled barrel.
alpine robin
idk what you are on about
wispy shard
you only want fin stabilisation if you shoot from smooth bore (tank ...)
alpine robin
how is any of this relevant
wispy shard
wasn't arma supposed to be realistic? i lean on available real life data and physics.
wispy shard
i am aware of this.
alpine robin
it would be a huge waste of processing time to do stuff like that
pine pond
arma is not supposed to be realistic. but it's not supposed to be arcadish either
hollow scarab
realistic
No
wispy shard
you said its "special" and not like normal AP. normal AP isn't "DS", lynx APDS obviously is. thats the only difference indicated i see.
pine pond
it's like the battlefield series, but with a slightly more realistic approach
it just looks realistic
hollow scarab
walks away
pine pond
i mean, can anyone of you explain the all knowing radar on vehicles? the lack of gear simulation in vehicles? the non-dlc flight model?
alpine robin
people were talking about what exactly in the damage system could cause this "bug"
but it seems all intentional to me
if you wanna change it, there are configs for that
wispy shard
It looks weak to me if you give me a 30mm or 40mm autocannon with APDS, or anything bigger (120mm, ATGM). But with a lynx in my hands i would consider it adequately strong to effectively ruin my day, to be honest. I'm both surprised at how sturdy the Cheetha is against 30mm+ and how weak it is against 12.7mm if you manage to hit the sweet spot.
pine pond
so the basis of the problem was ME assuming that the gunner was encapsuled within the chassi and not the turret
alpine robin
he sits in the turret apparently
pine pond
btw, does anyone know what the titan AP is for? i assume it's anti-personel but it doesn't lock onto personel nor vehicles. it feels like a long range version of that nato anti armor missile which i forgot the name of
wispy shard
@pine pond the titan AP did lock on to people at some point.
pine pond
maybe it's just a cheaper and lighter version of the AT round?
it works like a SACLOS system though
wispy shard
it didn't do damage to tanks in the past afair, but its been a while since i tried.
pine pond
it does do damage now, but it's minimal
wispy shard
and AP, or anti-personnel warheads to kill infantry and other soft targets. AP rounds are significantly lighter and are also effective against light vehicles.
shrugs
pine pond
that's kind of useless, because the AP does the exact same thing
wispy shard
is confused
urban sluice
@wispy shard I forgot that the Rheinmetall M256 is smoothbore and it annoys me because we don't use tank rifle ATGMs
So I can't help but feel like "why bother"
pine pond
err, i mean. the AT does the exact same thing. if i fire it at a soft skinned vehicle that vehicle WILL explode. probably because damage is higher than global health
wispy shard
@urban sluice you lost me, please elaborate?
well sigma it was funny to lock on an AP rocket to a sniper 3km away.
urban sluice
You mentioned earlier that you want APFSDS rounds with smoothbore guns because there's no rifling
er, not want
wispy shard
kinda, need.
urban sluice
oh yeah want nevermind i'm scatterered
right
I know the US bought into the whole tank-rifle ATGM meme with the MBT-70 when we collaborated with the krauts and Russian tank doctrine is hugely based around ATGM warfare with tanks but I don't know why the US still uses it
pine pond
@wispy shard yeah. that's exactly what i want to do. but now they've made ghillie suits (except one) almost invisible to thermal cameras. so it would be very hard. other troops on the other hand... :>
urban sluice
it's just like
"rifle ya shit, US."
wispy shard
the reason you want smoothbore for tank guns is muzzle velocity. the effectiveness of kinectic energy penetrators (APFSDS ammo) is directly linked to their speed. so you want them to go as fast as possible. rifled guns are in the way of that goal, hence why for tanks you get rid of the rifleing and go smoothbore. the accuracy is impacted negatively, but for the relative short distances (compared to the caliber) of MBTs this is acceptable. but no rifeling leaves you with no stabilisation, hence the finns.
well ATGMs fired by tanks give you a bit of a range advantage.
urban sluice
Right
I didn't know that rifling negatively impacted muzzle velocity, but I suppose now that I think about it it's pretty basic physics
Have you ever played Wargame: Red Dragon @wispy shard
pine pond
@urban sluice yeah, it's that gyrostabilizing effect you get. and the bore is often not affected since lead is softer than cold hammered steel
urban sluice
It's pretty neat and it satisfies my need for early 90's era warfare.
mid 70's-early 90's really.
wispy shard
well if you rifle your barrel, then you force the projectile into a spin. since the acceleration of a projectile is very violent, there is a lot of friction involved and the wear of the barrel throat is excessive on excessive muzzle velocities. so you kinda limit your options with balancing lifetime/muzzle velocity etc
a smoothbore is simply much less trouble.
no i haven't played Wargame
urban sluice
Let me shoot you a game I competed in.
There's also a part one if you're interested. Anyways, I have to drive home. Be back in 20.
wispy shard
most rifles stay below 1000m/s muzzle velocity. tanks with APFSDS create 1700m/s.
static cape
@Vauun you were part of 4chan vs reddit 2015? ๐ฎ
vale valley
no politics here go to #offtopic_politics
urban sluice
@static cape Yes, back when I played wargame a lot more we organized a match.
I really like Wargame.
turbid quartz
@urban sluice nice groups
urban sluice
Thanks, I like to invite people who I destroy in Dark Souls to Let Me Suck on Your Finger
static cape
That's cool. You guys definitely won your bragging rights in game 2
urban sluice
I was on right side. I played very well, I think.
I love playing Norwegian Motorized. You get excellent Special forces in cheap Bell 412s and for like 40 points a pop you can just have excellent infantry with fast transport
The armor isn't all that bad either since you get 1A5s
Back when the panserbil had a broken autoloader and an insane rate of fire that thing was notorious for just stopping infantry in their tracks with a 20RPM 3HE gun
Just put two or three in a treeline and you don't have to worry about infantry at all really, especially since they had good-tier optics
cursive surge
is king of the hill game mode ded
wispy shard
no.
vapid stream
urban sluice
Yeah.
neon root
since when was Battle Royale tied up with H1Z1?
feral reef
long time ago
hard flare
is anyone selling a free copy of arma 3?
gift it to me on steam
i will pay with tf2 crates
pls help me
urban sluice
lmao
feral reef
Oh my ^^
hard flare
i would really like a free copy for my friends
feral reef
And i would realy like to become a Rockstar.
You see, 2 things we don't get ๐
urban sluice
My money is on rockstar
feral reef
๐
urban sluice
then again i've been playing guitar for three years and i'm still garbage at it so ๐
feral reef
At least you can play a guitar, i just can sing (two tones: loud and wrong)
hard flare
nah put you money on me so i can buy my friend arma 3
urban sluice
guitar basics are easy, anyone can learn them
90% of acoustic songs you hear are really just like
four chords.
pine pond
well i'd like to learn to play the guitar properly so i could teach the bohemia musician not to make such slimey songs
runs away before getting shot
finite relic
It's funny, you can always tell when it's the weekend in here, it gets very quiet. One would expect it to be busier than it is.
hollow scarab
they seem to have a life ๐
vale valley
if it's quiet it means less headache for me ๐
restive peak
Anyone got a hammer?
timber crow
Hi, sorry I'm sure this comes up a lot, but I'm helping a friend build a pc to play Arma 3, and while I'm well versed on how to build a pc, I'm not sure what kind of requirements this game would require, and I've heard it has a lot of optimization issues and requires a pretty beefy rig to handle. Does this game require a very beefy CPU to handle but not so much GPU? If so does it rely on single core performance more than it benefits from multiple cores/hyper threading? Doesn't have to be on max settings at all ofc, but my friend has a relatively limited budget and I want to know what kind of rig he'll need to play the game comfortably.
urban sluice
@timber crow You want excellent single-thread performance with a decent GPU.
High clock speed RAM + CPU is very good.
I run an OC'd 4690K at 4.5GHz with overvolted RAM to 2400Mhz with a GTX 1070. I average 60 FPS.
timber crow
That helps a lot, thank you. So probably his best bet would be an i5 4690, and the highest speed RAM I can get. I'll have to get the top of the line chipset as well to run the higher speed RAM sticks I think, and it'll help to OC I guess.
It'll be cutting it close so I'll probably have to get away with a lower end GPU, that should be alright yeah? Maybe I'll get a 960 or something. $150 would probably be the limit
I'd imagine any lower and it would suffer in performance
wispy shard
@timber crow i would rather recommend a 6600K instead of a 4690.
and yes high speed ram is worth it.
timber crow
yeah the newest i5, sorry. I knew this game had some weird stuff about it, would never have guessed it was one of the few that RAM speed helped with
Thank you. And just to confirm, GPU isn't nearly as important yeah? Can get away with a mid-tier gpu
vale valley
continue in #hardware_vs_arma ๐
timber crow
I didn't notice, my b. Thank you.
lost stream
cerulean obsidian
TIME TO GET SHWIFTY
hard flare
raised up posterior
finite relic
โ๏ธ
quartz magnet
Isn't something like this a better solution than the current sinking into ground thing?
https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/140105-rendering-grass-at-long-distances-my-thoughts-about-it/
pale patio
Well that's a 3.5 year old thread from when Arma 3 was in beta, if it was either practical or possible then someone, even if it wasn't BI, would have implemented it since then. My guess is that there were performance or technical reasons why no-one has been able to make it work ... which would be a real shame :/
It was sad to see that ShackTack have been turning off grass in their missions because of issues with the current system
quartz magnet
Well...a lot of issues from Beta (or older versions of Arma) got fixed this year so... ๐
As baseline consumer hardware increases in performance, some things may continue to become more feasible. Or so I hope.
urban sluice
It would have been a better solution. Its not really performance that is driving this, an alpha blend like this with the surround ground texture would have cost nothing to actually render, its more a question of whether that could be made to work in the engine in a timely manor and we got our answer, it couldn't be.
Grass is a bigger problem especially with the AI because they aren't impacted by it (and players can turn it off). So while grass really makes the game look vastly better it gives the AI the ability to see better than you in a lot of circumstances and the only reason you can't obviously see them is just grass, but they aren't impacted by it at all.
pale patio
While it might be cheap to render, I think the performance questions come into play when considering which grass textures to apply from the different viewing angles and out to what distance. For example, on level ground 100m away there would be lots of grass between you and another player, in the real world the combined effect would hide the other player completely but if engine only considered the nearest tuft of grass to the player it may only obscure part of the view. It would still be an improvement over what we have now, but it would not be cost-free and not perfect in every scenario.
urban sluice
checkVisibility function is affected by setTerrainGrid so i believe grass matters for it. If AI use that function, in AI FSM, may be grass matter for then.
quartz magnet
@vale valley help
...is it over?
So, what I was going to say was....
Frankly on level ground 100m away the grass close by does enough to obscure the view, but I do agree that the exact patch of grass to use could be an issue. I'm just wondering that, since it's a trick that appears to be done on the viewing client, could it not be possible to just render the alpha layer of all grass around units that are in the player's view? Up to say +/- 2m around the model (use a radius)? That should cover all viewing angles.
delicate current
the spammer has been removed from the chat
twilit sundial
thank the lawd
vivid flare
hello any one from TMT Team
humble ridge
Can i ask for an advice on a crash?
Game keeps crashing every time i place down a zeus module
urban sluice
check your rpts
are you running any mods
what does the crash report tell you
also #arma3_troubleshooting would be a better channel
humble ridge
@urban sluice Status_access_violation
urban sluice
Try re-installing ArmA 3, or at least verify your cache.
urban sluice
Can I ask has anyone tried running arma in Linux? Like with WINE?
Might move to Ubuntu so...
wispy shard
afaik it works, but battleye doesn't, so its quite pointless.
urban sluice
@urban sluice why would you ever run arma with WINE
god i remember how long it took me to get osu! working with WINE
olive prism
ayy boi im here and i aint queer
dreamy obsidian
How can I take a mission someone made then edit it so there is no fatigue?
wispy shard
Kfuck, there is an option called enableStamina
i think if you put enablestamina false; in the description.ext it should do that. but it might be deprecated
urban sluice
Just select your playable units, go to special states, and disable stamina @dreamy obsidian
Right click > Attributes > Special States > Enable Stamina
frozen drum
urban sluice
@urban sluice cause I may change my OS
hollow scarab
dark python
Is anyone on atm that could help me test a mp feature for a vanilla arma server?
pale patio
@urban sluice there is a native port, you don't need Wine
the only problem is that it lags behind the windows version, it's currently at 1.58 with 1.62 on the way
the more people who use it, though, the more likely it is that BI will treat it as a higher priority, and who knows, maybe we'll see the next version of Arma support linux on equal terms ๐
@urban sluice So, all you need to do is install the linux Steam client and you can play Arma on linux
urban sluice
anyone else see their unit squadXML stopped working?
it's shows the tag, but not the information contained in the XML
the logo even shows up on vehicles but not in the player diary tab
tough hatch
Indeed. See Squad.xml does not appear in the map - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120466
#arma3_feedback_tracker
solar dragon
how can i play zombies
urban sluice
...Exile zombies, DayZ, Wasteland w/ Zombies, what?
finite relic
... Ryans Zombies....
pale patio
you could almost say the whole Zombie thing has been overplayed ...
urban sluice
Who would ever think that?
vivid flare
hello
i'm looking is they are a way to add numeral decals to kuma tank or any tank similare to RHS random numbers to the vehicles
the RHS system is limited to RHS Tanks i'm Looking for somthing more general
urban sluice
I'm sure there's a way to with the new vehicle texture editor.
Eyy lads
I loved Warfare in ARMA 2 OA. Is there a way to play it in ARMA 3?
urban sluice
Not to my knowledge. I run a small group that does Arma 2 warfare every once in a while if you're interested.
patent frigate
what about EUTW?
urban sluice
@urban sluice I am talking about putting it to ARMA 3
I've heard of efforts, but I've not seen anything.
jolly canopy
there was gossamer's warfare for arma3, but I think development stopped
ocean spoke
so i switch to another unit with U and then switch back to group leader... this previous unit now stops to follow the leader. how to get him to regroup (there is no regroup command available)
urban sluice
yep he did at march @jolly canopy
ocean spoke
ah, ok... so need to command the unit to move somewhere and then I get regroup... ok ๐
south spindle
Same
surreal lintel
I agree
wheat venture
well wtf
past geyser
whut
wispy saddle
๐
wheat venture
@vale valley plz
void flare
lol
wispy saddle
good shit fam
surreal lintel
I can really see where you are coming from
thorn ridge
could you not
slow estuary
...
chilly sundial
JESUS
proud elm
wtf
warm junco
Fixed
proven saddle
remove cencer pls
hot night
lmfao
wheat venture
thanks
upbeat wolf
GG
unborn schooner
RIP
gaunt river
AY
deep bobcat
F
spice lynx
LUL
slow estuary
thanks โค
steady grove
lol wut
surreal lintel
Bloody hell he was making me horny
fervent mauve
lel
slow estuary
lol
cunning surge
Fuck i was asleep
hot night
๐ฏ
restive vessel
WAT
atomic fractal
Thanks @warm junco
urban sluice
@finite relic
robust stump
Gg
restive vessel
WAT IS IT
urban sluice
please fix this
restive needle
dang
tough warren
Whut
slow estuary
@warm junco for president
fervent mauve
Kids use condoms
tired galleon
Thankyou @dawn pumice
tropic mulch
wtf was that
warm junco
Same stuff going on in BattleRoyale
rugged swan
What is happening
tropic mulch
LOL
rapid moth
Wtf
green bronze
:HAhaa:
warm junco
discord
rugged tartan
Yes I'd like fries with that order
robust stump
Ja perdole
cyan garnet
โฅ
tropic mulch
HAHA
past geyser
ty adam
proven saddle
chat spam looks like twitch lmao
obtuse lagoon
wtf
tepid zenith
i wonder if he got infected with something or doing it on purpose
hot night
lmfaoo
gaunt shore
Xd
warm junco
No worries ๐
proud elm
Kappa
proven saddle
kappa
gaunt river
Kappa 123
steady grove
kappa
spice tusk
LEL
urban sluice
ebic, simbly ebic
vague relic
@WhoismeV2#5641 @vale valley @BohemiaBeck ban this guy plz
tropic mulch
lol
rugged tartan
I'm guessing Lirik isn't streaming
finite relic
On it
urban sluice
Its a bot thats harvesting info from pretty much all of discord
glass scarab
why did i get tagged in this chat?
summer quiver
You rang?
rugged tartan
Disregard, robots are simply taking over the world, you're fine for now though
neat shoal
all hail Mikero!
glass scarab
oh ok lol
swift hound
i got hardcore pranked
glass scarab
are there any awesome scripters in this chat?
rapid hill
What is happening?
rugged tartan
I'm awesome in general
glass scarab
let me rephrase that are there any talented scripters in this chat?
rugged tartan
I don't know.. might want to check.. the #arma3_scripting channel?
tall jungle
No, there's only several notable figures currently online alone. But, what do I know.
thorn rapids
hm, someone tagged me?
grave arrow
someone probably at everyone'd
thorn rapids
hm
rugged tartan
no it actually tagged everyone
glass scarab
ok do you know any scripts on how to program pop up targets?
thorn rapids
Doesn't show up in the list
rugged tartan
it was deleted
glass scarab
@analog oasis where?
thorn rapids
Obviously.
grave arrow
lol are they adding bots here too?
gloomy nest
@everyone
valid adder
Did I get tagged?
gloomy nest
wtf
grave arrow
every discord i got is adding bots now lol
rugged tartan
Twitchcon bleeding over is all
gloomy nest
i dont think i should be able to tag everyone :\
valid adder
Please don't tag 906 people...
gloomy nest
hahah
rugged tartan
@valid adder it's probably your fault anyways
teal galleon
Well this has been enlightening.
urban sluice
whats with the recent influx of retards?
like cmon
whale why are you such a bully
"stop pickin' on me you fuckin' bully"
-based god
n-no, u
light saddle
if you don't like getting mentioned put yourself on do not disturb
otherwise shut the fuck up and stop complaining
urban sluice
"Let me put myself on DND so that other discords don't ping me just because one of them gets retards that spam every once in a while"
That is some top-tier logic right there, I gotta hand it to you
oblique stream
Y U DO DIS 2 ME Chairborne
finite relic
Yeah, dont think I'll uses DND either as I am occasionally needed.
In other news, I think the Ban Hammer has broken a record in the last hour.
proper ermine
Anyone in the Map Making Business?
restive peak
just turn the server and channel notifications to "nothing"
urban sluice
@restive peak
There are people like me who frequently use this server and want to be pinged by it.
finite relic
@proper ermine #arma3_terrain
restive peak
Or as FM needs turn em to @mentions
urban sluice
And the default is to be @ mentioned
restive peak
sorry default on android is all messages โบ
urban sluice
whoops
fringe summit
Did someone mention every single user out of the 580 people who are online?
finite relic
Spammer was here. Move along Citizen, nothing to see here.
finite relic
๐
fringe summit
oh wow, just noticed dslyecx is here
inb4 toggling megastalk.
how are y'all doing anyways?
finite relic
Its a bit quiet tonight, people are only chiming in because everyone was disturbed earlier.
spring lake
Disturbed about what?
finite relic
Spammer tagged everyone
sweet haven
@oblique stream >_>
oblique stream
whaat?
sweet haven
I figured I haven't talked to you on enough chats today
spring lake
Anybody here run Ryan's Zombies and Demons?
I'm working on modifying Exile Z to give some behaviour to the zed spawn
I've got 'em doing LOS checks and responding to gunfire. Going to add in them hearing vehicles
urban sluice
4Head
spring lake
IIRC I think the ones spawned in by ExileZ are agents but can't recall
Really they'd work better on a headless client I think
You can create a unit and disable it's FSM; I think it'd help with CPU
urban sluice
Your network is typically the bottleneck.
crisp turtle
Any decent computer bought in the last 8 years is gonna have a decent hard drive
thats not gonna be the issue unless you cant actually fit whatever your downloading
Mind you it might be a bit slow.. in installing the game or moving files around
granite ember
If you were making a tiered list of units for each faction RTS style, would you include APEX CTRG and Viper as the ultimate level for (pacific) nato and csat, or as another pair of factions?
urban sluice
You know, I was just talking with someone and I brought up a fairly good observation that I thought I'd share here
Arma 3 doesn't really have much support in the way of making actual environments look pretty. You can change fog, lightning, wind, and the time of day, but coming from someone who loves aesthetically pleasing environments, I find myself wanting more
Is there anything that anyone is working on that offers more support for that kind of thing?
primal latch
urban sluice
How do you fi-
That's a bit out of the question.
I was referring to something more or less like an addon.
I can persuade my server owner to install a small addon which gives me more functionality for that kind of stuff, but a map would be hard to justify and wouldn't offer the flexibility I'm going for.
rustic sentinel
what do you want to change?
urban sluice
I'd just like nicer environments in general. More options.
rustic sentinel
yeah i havent seen the makeNicer command
urban sluice
wouldn't that be nice
I.E. setting brightness of moon or sun, more control over cloud cover since it kinda seems to be a little randomized, the predefined rain system is pretty garbage since it goes from barely a piss-trickle to a fucking downpour with a tap of the slider, maybe some more exotic sunsets, options for dust storms perhaps, and maybe some cool night time stuff like aurora borealis or something
fresh elk
Hey, I dont play coop so I came here, does this look like its being used in an MP environment with other people? http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/455236878701637924/D68E066D790C2DAEE62557D3DEFF2B65E2DEBFA8/
native charm
Yes
well, maybe, it's hard to say with names, it's pretty hard to get AI to fly like that
fresh elk
The names seem like AI
urban sluice
I've never come across AI called "Dorgan"
And AI is always given a first and last name
native charm
Vauun only reason I say that is he has 1st Lt. in his name, most wannabes ^H^H^H^H^H^H serious milsim units require ranks in everyone name or no one
and mods will introduce new AI names
the boxes around the man I don't see, if you mean Hexagon, that's group marker from Arma, if you are talking boxes with speed/Altitude, that's mod adding those
wispy shard
@fresh elk thats simply a difficulty setting, can be switched on/off in both SP/MP
fresh elk
hmm, so there is no way to know for sure?
fresh elk
well, the addon is mine, its unreleased, and he downloaded it from our server. I am just trying to make sure hes not distributing it.
He tried to release it as his a few months ago
native charm
he could be, no way to tell
fresh elk
eh, well, ill just have to keep my eye out. Thanks
rugged tartan
aaaaah steam community workshop, what a cluster!@#$
urban sluice
anyone playing breaking point
urban sluice
Can someone help me find a video on how to aim and shoot over distance m?
unique haven
Find bullet trace script and practice with that in the editor
finite relic
Or, enter the magic words into YouTube. Loads of results there. @calm gull and others have some good tutorials.
remote patrol
kinda wish discord would show deleted pings so i dont go crazy
finite relic
If you're referring to last night, it was a spammer who is now banned ๐จ
craggy skiff
That sounds good!
finite relic
Had to Ban a few idiots. Can't wait til a Discord ban equals an Arma Ban (and then maybe a complete Steam Ban)
fair dock
arma ban? ๐
atomic prism
I've made it to the arma chat yay
finite relic
Linking your Arma Key to Discord. You get banned, it gets banned. (Snake Man)
fair dock
yup I got that. but banned how, you say evil things in discord and then what, you cannot launch arma? cannot join multiplayer?
finite relic
I've only just created this magical thing in my head, I don't have all the answers yet ๐
fair dock
I think if you purchase a software, then say something in forums/etc that others dont like and you get punished by not being able to use that software is... kind of hmm, dunno...
atomic prism
+1
finite relic
I think it would be a great tool against the cheats / thieves
fair dock
yeah cheating in multiplayer is bit different than being dumbass in IRC/discord ๐
finite relic
There would be various levels ๐
fair dock
btw I'm no way defending the yesterdays spammers or such.
finite relic
I didn't take it as such ๐
Most bans are for spamming. Repeat spammers who make the effort to get around an IP Ban should be dealt with a bit more harshly I think.
I'm just thinking out loud really.
Haven't had my coffee yet.
โ๏ธ
wispy shard
dangerous thoughts.
one day you ban someone and the next day he's knocking on your door.
finite relic
You forget that most of these methods are already in place, just not linked.
The forums already have the option of linking your BI account to your Steam Account.
As in all things, I can see the inherent dangers in it (if used improperly), but I can also see the good in it (if used properly). https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6899-IOSK-9514
I envision it mostly for IP thieves who try to thumb their nose at the system and say "I can do what I want".
But, to clarify before anyone gets too testy over the whole issue, this is just a musing that's been percolating in my head all morning , not something that BI are actually considering (at least I don't think so).
hollow scarab
FM go drink your damn coffee and breathe some air. Maybe get laid too ๐ DOnt swing axes this early
how did you make that quote above? The > Article ""... part
wispy shard
hands a hot cup of COFE to -FM-
inconspicously pours a bit of irish whiskey into the COFE
pale patio
@hollow scarab He didn't. discord did by looking at the content of the link he posted - only works if the link provides certain metadata, in this case a <meta name="description" content=" ... "> tag
finite relic
It's also by role. Some can only post links, others can post links with previews. Don't worry, no Hammers were harmed this morning.
feral reef
*PicRemovedToTroll -FM- ๐
hollow scarab
go to sleep you troll too much today
finite relic
Lol
red cloud
hi
fleet matrix
Ello
frosty trout
ello
feral portal
allo
frosty trout
anyone wants to learn me arma SQF
gentle mica
anyone here that have any sugestions about life mod servers? hopfully with Task force radio. Thanks ๐
noble quail
why im getting notification from here?
urban sluice
Spammer.
gentle mica
Noone? ๐ฆ
urban sluice
#looking_for_game @gentle mica might be your best bet
gentle mica
ok thanks