Ms. Hermes Locks Herself Out (Part 2)

[runic trout]

Hi there this is continuation of this ticket which has been closed due to my time away from the terminal. https://discordapp.com/channels/1053877538025386074/1499895684252434432 . Here are the logs: https://paste.rs/elOBx, https://paste.rs/RKKkW, https://paste.rs/ufKPk. i followed the instructions from this post:
And received this message:
HTTP/1.1 405 Method Not Allowed
date: Tue, 05 May 2026 03:01:09 GMT
server: uvicorn
allow: GET
content-length: 31
content-type: application/json. I'm still very new to this but im not sure it worked.

The original issue is Ms. Hermes attempts to lock herself out with 10001 instead of 1001.

Again apologies for the delay in response

[fading sail]

No worries, and thanks for opening the continuation.

The 405 Method Not Allowed is from the check command, not necessarily from Hermes being broken. The earlier command used curl -I, which sends a HEAD request, and the dashboard route is saying it only allows GET.

Please keep the Docker/Dokploy dashboard off. Do not restart it for this.

If the terminal running this is still open:

hermes dashboard --host 127.0.0.1 --no-open

leave it open.

If that terminal was closed, start it again with:

hermes dashboard --host 127.0.0.1 --no-open

Then open a second terminal on the same machine and run this exact check instead:

curl -sS -o /dev/null -w "dashboard_http=%{http_code}\n" http://127.0.0.1:9119/

If that prints dashboard_http=200, the local dashboard is running correctly.

Please also run this ownership check:

stat -c "%u:%g %a %n" ~/.hermes ~/.hermes/auth.json ~/.hermes/config.yaml

Paste the output of both commands.

If the dashboard check returns 200 but your browser still says the site cannot be reached, then the dashboard is running but your browser is probably not on the same machine as Hermes. In that case, just tell us whether you are using SSH or a remote server/VPS to access the machine where Hermes is installed. We can give you the tunnel step from there without changing the Hermes setup again.

[runic trout]

hi there yes im on a VPS server and I'm on the machine running these commands. here are the outputs: lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$ curl -sS -o /dev/null -w "dashboard_http=%{http_code}\n" http://127.0.0.1:9119/
dashboard_http=200
lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$ No worries, and thanks for opening the continuation.

lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$ stat -c "%u:%g %a %n" ~/.hermes ~/.hermes/auth.json ~/.hermes/config.yaml
1001:1001 700 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes
1001:1001 600 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes/auth.json
1001:1001 600 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes/config.yaml
lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$

[fading sail]

Great, that confirms the local setup is healthy now.

dashboard_http=200 means the Hermes dashboard is running correctly on the VPS.

The ownership output is also correct:

1001:1001 700 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes
1001:1001 600 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes/auth.json
1001:1001 600 /home/lisaalfa/.hermes/config.yaml

So the lockout part looks fixed right now.

The remaining issue is only browser access. Since the dashboard is bound to 127.0.0.1 on the VPS, your normal browser cannot reach it directly unless the browser is also running on that VPS.

From your own computer, open a new terminal and connect to the VPS with an SSH tunnel:

ssh -L 9119:127.0.0.1:9119 lisaalfa@YOUR_SERVER

Replace YOUR_SERVER with the server IP or server hostname you normally use to SSH into the VPS.

Keep that SSH window open. Then open this in your browser on your own computer:

http://127.0.0.1:9119/

Please keep the Docker/Dokploy dashboard off and keep using this local Hermes dashboard path for now. If the tunnel opens cleanly and the browser loads the dashboard, this part is resolved.

[runic trout]

Hi There, Still getting site can't be reached. I originally set the subdomain to be dash.mydomain.com but his is returning 404 page not found. I have not restarted Ms. Hermes yet. but a different yet related questions is how to prevent Ms. Hermes from attempting to change permissions to 10001. Or is it really a StepFun 5 Flash model issue

[fading sail]

dashboard.mydomain.com is not your VPS IP. the permissions was it installing the docker dashboard we had you move off of last time. that was the model setting it up for you and not doing it the proper way for a local backend like you run from what you told me in the last convo. if you dont do that again or launch that docker again it wont reset the permissions. right now, you need to find your actual IP for your VPS and replace the YOUR_SERVER part in the ssh tunnel i gave so you can access it.

Let’s make this very literal.

The dashboard is already running on the VPS. We proved that with:

dashboard_http=200

The missing part is not Hermes now. The missing part is getting your own computer’s browser connected to the dashboard running on the VPS.

Do this exactly:

1. On the VPS, leave this command running:

hermes dashboard --host 127.0.0.1 --no-open

If your terminal prompt looks like lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$, that terminal is already inside the VPS.

2. Now go to your own computer, not the VPS terminal.

Open a new PowerShell or Terminal window on your own computer.

3. Find the VPS public IP address in your hosting provider’s control panel.

It will usually look like numbers with dots, for example 123.45.67.89.

Do not use dash.mydomain.com for this step. That is just an example dashboard domain, not your VPS IP.

4. In the PowerShell or Terminal window on your own computer, run this, replacing only YOUR_VPS_IP:

ssh -L 9119:127.0.0.1:9119 lisaalfa@YOUR_VPS_IP

So if your VPS IP were 123.45.67.89, the command would look like:

ssh -L 9119:127.0.0.1:9119 lisaalfa@123.45.67.89

Do not paste your real VPS IP here publicly.

5. Keep that SSH window open after it logs in.

6. Open this in the browser on your own computer:

http://127.0.0.1:9119/

For the 10001 issue: that came from the Docker/Dokploy dashboard setup we moved away from. That setup used a different Linux user ID than your local Hermes install. Your local Hermes files are correct now at 1001:1001.

As long as you do not restart that Docker/Dokploy dashboard or let Hermes run old permission-repair commands again, it should not change those files back to 10001.

StepFun 5 Flash may have followed the wrong repair path, but the root cause was the mixed Docker/local setup. I would not use StepFun Flash for server permission repair work. For now, deny anything involving Docker/Dokploy, chown, chmod, 10000, 10001, /opt/hermes, or broad changes to ~/.hermes unless we give you the exact command.

[runic trout]

Thank you, I'm a bit confused on whether to do work in the terminal or Powershell on my laptop. Give me a few and I'll reply back.

ok so i figured out how to from my laptop get to the VPS server. and i ran the command from the VPS server. the 127.0.0.1:9119 is not working but maybe Ms Hermes didn't finish setting up. I had originally instructed her to put onto a subdomain. Is it ok to run the Hermes app again?

one more question, there are a lot of new commands and capabilities, Im really trying to learn things. Is there a way to really understand what is possible and how it works like the kaban board, the updates from the 0.12 release. or should i just give the Hermes tool the documentation area to help me understand better

[fading sail]

No problem. There are two different places involved, and the commands go in different places.

If the prompt says this:

lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$

that is the VPS terminal.

If you are in PowerShell or Terminal on your laptop before SSHing into the VPS, that is your laptop terminal.

The dashboard command goes on the VPS.

The SSH tunnel command goes on your laptop.

Do this in this order:

On the VPS, keep this running:

hermes dashboard --host 127.0.0.1 --no-open

If you see the normal lisaalfa@lisaalfa:~$ prompt immediately after running it, then it may not still be running. Start it again and leave that terminal open.

Then go back to your laptop. Open a fresh PowerShell or Terminal window on the laptop. Do not SSH into the VPS first.

In that laptop PowerShell/Terminal window, run:

ssh -L 9119:127.0.0.1:9119 lisaalfa@YOUR_VPS_IP

Replace YOUR_VPS_IP with the real public IP address of your VPS from your hosting provider’s control panel. Do not use dash.mydomain.com; that is just an example dashboard domain, not your VPS IP.

After that SSH command connects, keep that PowerShell/Terminal window open.

Then open this in the browser on your laptop:

http://127.0.0.1:9119/

If you ran the SSH tunnel command from inside the VPS, it will not help your laptop browser. The tunnel has to start from the laptop.

It is okay to run the local dashboard command again if needed. Do not ask Hermes to set up the dashboard or subdomain again right now. The dashboard already works locally on the VPS, and the subdomain path is the part we are intentionally not using for this recovery.

For learning what is possible, yes, the docs are the right place to start. Good pages for what you asked about:

Dashboard:
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/user-guide/features/web-dashboard

Kanban:
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/user-guide/features/kanban

Kanban tutorial:
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/user-guide/features/kanban-tutorial

Slash commands:
https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com/docs/reference/slash-commands

0.12 release notes:
https://github.com/NousResearch/hermes-agent/releases

I would use the docs to learn, but I would not ask Hermes to make server permission or Docker/dashboard changes from the docs until this recovery is fully done.

[runic trout]

thank you and one last question. When Hermes asks for permission to do things is there a way to make the request where the allow, allow for session deny is there a way to make those requests more in layman's terms so i understand what the agent is actually asking to do.

@fading sail While the dashboard itself is not appearing, I should assume the agent did not complete the setup of the dashboard process and will continue from there. Thank you so much for all of your assistance. The ticket can be closed.