#Goldfish event balancing needs work

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severe hill
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Goldfish Event

Battle marks package - x20000
1350 goldfish
20,000 x 800 = 16,000,000
16mill / 1350 goldfish = 11,851 gold per goldfish

Pirate tokens packages x75000 cost
1200 goldfish
75,000 / 100 for inrogs = 750 inrogs

750 inrogs x 25,000 = 18,750,000 = 15,475 gold per goldfish
750 inrogs x 20,000 = 15,000,000 = 12,500 gold per goldfish

Escudo Package - x1500
1000 goldfish
1500 escudo x 4500 gold each = 6,750,000 gold

average 6,750 gold per goldfish

Leopard Package

If you average out pirate token package both deals and average out the battle mark package it costs: 12,919 gold per goldfish
Leopard cost is averaged to be 27,130,425 gold

Paying 27million in value of shop goods for a fast ship is pretty absurd. Not to mention it's supposedly an event only reward. It doesn't inherently look all that great for stats either as a fast ship.

We need more content for this event and I'm wondering why it took so long for a reskinned chest event where players still lose reputation for sinking players during a literal PVP enticed event. We've already got a player that's almost been kicked for losing reputation for sinking aggressive trade union players that have a chest.

Bottom line: We need reputation removal for players that have a chest in hold it's not worth pvping them unless you're a pirate, give us more ways to do this event other than an RNG system on open water. I've spent the last 2 hours looking in the endless sea for chests and I've grabbed 5. One of those I had 2 on me and entered port and only got rewards for 1. Also why on earth did you remove the ability to trade event currency on the auction house?

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severe hill
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PVE players also have virtually no way of doing this event without being clobbered by pvpers.

bright palm
severe hill
willow goblet
# bright palm How so?

As soon as you pick up the amber you’re PvP flagged and any pirate guild with two brain cells to rub together is going to camp the farming areas and ports to gank people.

severe hill
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This is a glorified pirate event

willow goblet
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With a fomo ship…. This is the first event since launch that I’m displeased by, even after the whale nerfs at Halloween and the map nerfs at Christmas.

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willow goblet
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Key words: “after making it to a port.”

The point is if you are a lone PVE player you’re going to get clobbered by PVP squads camping the ports

severe hill
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bruh

bright palm
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Taken into account that PvE players usually are the flock that brings the most money to such games, pissing them off isn't a smart move imho

severe hill
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dynobot

willow goblet
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The truly ironic part is that they just pushed an update that increased the reputation and black mark penalties for sinking players drastically… then launched an event that forces PVP. Incredible.

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You can’t sell the goldfish on the market???

severe hill
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@#%@#%$

willow goblet
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Stupid bot.

severe hill
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Can't be listed

willow goblet
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Is this just the auction house? Can you at least trade player to player? Either way it’s still ridiculous that one or both is restricted.

bright palm
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I really need to take a thorough look next time I'm online.

Was piling up map fragents to open once the event goes live; planned to do that south-east corner, at the Khalifat ports, so I don't get map spawns in PvP area

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Do we expect the Amber stuff to be in the map loot as well?

severe hill
bright palm
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So I get PvP flagged when I pick up the map loot? What BS

willow goblet
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So the event is already live right? Just to check. Wondering if maybe the currency can’t be sold because the event hasn’t technically started?

severe hill
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I've already done my daily for the event, so not sure what you mean by that

willow goblet
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I haven’t logged in today. I was hoping the event hadn’t started yet and perhaps that was why things weren’t working

severe hill
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Very much live

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willow goblet
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With any luck, they’ll change the event partway through to remove the forced PVP. They certainly made changes during the previous events.

bright palm
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So what currency is the ship actually for? Pirate tokens? Escudos? Goldfish? Actual gold?

willow goblet
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Goldfish.

bright palm
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How many?

severe hill
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2100

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Look above

willow goblet
bright palm
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Do we have an average of fish we get from say maps?

severe hill
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Last event they limited how many maps we could do, i expect it to happen soon

willow goblet
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If my math is right, doing every single daily task gets you just 960 so there is no way to get the Leopard or the other lucrative items without being PVP flagged for more than half of the grind.

bright palm
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12 per map
10 maps for 120
100 for 1200
200 for 2400
So around 180-190 maps

Hard grind, but managable. As long as I don't need to fend off amber chests in my map loot ...

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Oh, right. Daily rewards and fish you might get from sinking NPS or fishing. So with 2100-960 = 1140 divided by 12 average per map = 95 maps.

And again - that is not counting any additional fish you might get from wherever.

Hard grind for sure, but even for PvE players managable imho.

Stands and falls with Amber crap being in the map loot, which you can't inspect before pciking it up, so it might be a "spurprise MF!" monent, when you get some and then you are probably sitting on a 3/4 full cargo hold of previous map loot you picked up on your current run ...

severe hill
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so you want us to do around 2500 to 3000 pirate ships to get that many maps?

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map fragments aren't a 100% drop chance

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and you need 10 pieces for each map

bright palm
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I didn't imply anything like that.
I was just doing some napkin math

severe hill
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gotcha

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I love me some napkin math

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maps can be okay but sometimes they're pretty rough, i've seen people get 5 goldfish and ive seen people get 25

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maybe 12 wasn't a great average

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maybe 17 would be better

bright palm
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I just need some outline for myself to gauge if the grind is even managable for my taste and my usualy playing habits. If I need to redirect serious time resrouces from other games or other activities, I might actually pass on the ship at least.

severe hill
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Tested trading on open s ea, not able too

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bright palm
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With an average of 17, the remaining fish after daily rewards are about 67 maps.

Which is notably better than 95 imho

severe hill
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still roughly over 1,000 npcs to sink

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if you're getting maps fragments every other kill

bright palm
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Tbh, I was originally planning on stockpiling Battle marks in exchange for the event currancy ... that ship now makes that impossible. Can't have both without grinding 24/7 for the full event duration ^^

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Current state, I'm probably gonna pile up goldfish until the event is about to end and then calculate if I can get the ship even. If not, Battle marks it is.

Is there another way of getting the ship?

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Like are there event chests again where the ship can drop from? X-Mas event had event chests with ship in them

steep otter
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Yes the event chest are the amber ones that put you in PvP flags when picked up. Also you have to make it through the blockades at the lighthouses that are there to Gank you... Event is trash the event ship is trash.. the wind rose downgrade is trash.... This games headed towards the ...ya you know the Trash

severe hill
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special crew works for it but you cannot drop it to other players or get rewarded for the 2nd one

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cunning lichen
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You collect an amber chest and get pvp flagged, so you drop the chest out of your inventory. What happens then?

severe hill
cunning lichen
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Jezzzuz! That's like having a live hand grenade in your pocket!

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Has transferring the chest to an escort nps follower ship been tried?

simple sparrow
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I like the chest collecting and bringing to port but having that as the whole event just seems lazy… no offence.

I reckon they could have had that as the main event and a npc ship (less rewarding) you can farm also so there’s more content.

Also, you need to do something about neutrals and traders reputation penalty or just disable it during this event.

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Or

Implement a system so we can put players, flotillas and trade union as enemies in guild page.

quiet gale
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10x amber chests a day x 14 days

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140 amber chests

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140 x 30 goldfish = 4200 goldfish

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  • 960 goldfish from daily
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should be enough to buy leopard and 20k BMs

severe hill
quiet gale
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some players are getting 13 a hour

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i suggest finding the spawn locations in the endless

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its boring buts its doable

severe hill
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was endless sea

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I played for 15 hours straight into the late night off hours and was still getting 2~ an hour

quiet gale
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some areas dont have spawns

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certain areas are "Amber mines"

severe hill
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randomly would find one 2 mins going out but multiple times where i was out for 45mins and wouldnt find 1 anywhere

quiet gale
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from what ive seen

severe hill
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Like i'd go from cursed city to al khalif and not find any xD

quiet gale
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are you zig zagging?

severe hill
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yeah because of the shit windrose

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kinda have too sometimes

quiet gale
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real, idk maybe you just got unlucky

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id tell you where i go but....

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then id have to kill you

severe hill
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it's whatever thje market will be flooded with millions of bm's soon when china starts selling their bm's

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we've already got players that are working towards opening their 500 maps t hey've collected

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gunna take a week or so to open them all

shut elk
bright palm
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So ... you are telling me that ALL of those top-100 games (worldwide) on Steam are:

  • free to play
  • have both, PvE and PvP (aka are neither just exclusively either)
  • are open world farming games
    ?

Don't know what list you looked at, but the one I get is vastly different apparently.

Let's have a look at just the top 5 ...

Counter-Strike 2: 2 categories I listed do not apply

Crimson Desert: at least 1 category does not apply

Apex Legends: doesn't look like open-world to me, but haven't played it

Slay the Spire 2: Also haven't played that one, but from the product page, neither of the three categories apply

Resident Evil 4: neither category applies

=> Concusion: You try compare games with WoSB that do not reside within the same categories as WoSB does, so your comparison is highly invalid imho.
But have it your way, if that makes you more happy than facing the truth.

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stoic moss
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This whole event is complete nonsense. I feel like the developer went on vacation and left the event to his child or something

vapid zodiac