#Rocket keeps tipping over

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jolly idol
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I'm trying to build a deployable probe that can be deployed out of the service bay of a rocket.
Thing is - the delivery rocket keeps tipping over either backwards or sideways.
I tried adding struts, reactions wheels, gimble, control fins - nothing helps.
I even tried playing around with different configurations such as no cargo bay but direct attachment, or a fairing, or going with a 4 booster config - it always ends up tipping over.
Any tips?
Here are some screenshots of various configurations I tried (I know we can't attach actual ship files)

dull raptor
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Why does the image of the craft in the VAB look different from the craft flown in the third picture?

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In the third image the craft looks very heavy on the top, that could be the issue. \

short cloud
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the rocket could also be to top-heavy and at the moment fairings don't work
the aerodynamics don't take them into consideration

dull raptor
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I think adding more wing surfaces on the bottom could outweigh the drag coming from the top

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Or removing some drag heavy parts from the top

short cloud
jolly idol
dull raptor
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H70C32ECn6E This video could be helpful too

How to stop your rocket from flipping backwards. (KSP 1.11.2)

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jolly idol
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Anyway I also thought it was just being top heavy but various things I've tried to make it more bottom heavy didn't help either.
The control surfaces being reversed sounds more likely - since it only starts happpening when I start my gravity turn and the more I try to correct the more erratic it becomes

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Also it would suck if it turned out only SOME of them are reversed, it sounds like a hell to fix

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Symmetry is kinda broken I think

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Anyway I'll give the video a look.

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Thanks!

short cloud
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disable everything else except pitch and reverse it

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if you want yaw and roll add another set of wings at the end of it
disable pitch on them, but don't reverse their controls

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that is at least my approach when building planes at the moment and you want to fly with sas and engine gimbal

jolly idol
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Oh, well... Hmm.

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Thanks for the advice!

somber coyote
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heavy parts in front, draggy parts in back

jolly idol
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I see

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I'll try that too

jolly idol
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OK even this super simple rocket easily tips over
I'm starting to think the common denominator is the hydrogen tank

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Yup, replaced it with a regular tank and it was fine.
It was also much heavier - I think @somber coyote hit it straight on the head: having the hydrogen tank - a much lighter tank - on top, might be my issue.
I need to find a way to "carry" it through launch 🤔

dry berry
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You could do radially decoupled liquid fuel. Extra delta v plus more upward stability

jolly idol
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Got it up there! Thanks everyone!