#Loading stuck
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is this for both or just main menu
Can you get into a campaign now?
Alr
hot
IF disabling certain services dont work
you need to try more rigourous try
by hiding all microsoft services in msconfig services tab
then DISABLE ALL
reboot
ALSO
i went into KSP2 folder and ran directly from the .exe aswell
but that last part i tried yday aswell but didnt work but then i didnt do the disabling services thing im telling about now
They still need to fix it tho, we shouldn't need to do that in order to play you know...
so i am truly convinced its there
i know i know
i feel some services are conflicing causing an issue
my personal guess is VPN services
Wait... I have a vpn installef
i had protonvpn and hotspot services active i noticed even when i didnt se the apps but at windows boot it loads those services
I usually have vpn(NordVPN) off on startup but I will try layer tonight
i know
Installed*
can you say step by step what have you done
yes ill format properly
one moment please
Step 1)
Open msconfig
Step 2)
Select msconfig services tab
Step 3)
Hide all microsoft services
Step 4)
Disable services you think you dont need or even if you do but know are not essential, for my own example i disabled things like hotspotshield service/protonvpn service, HP printing service things like that etc.
Step 5)
After unticking certain services reboot your OS
Step 6)
Open KSP2 folder and run KSP2 directly from the .exe
Step 7)
If no progress you might want to try something more agressive as such disabling all start up services (not the microsoft ones obv.) see Step 3) then after Step 3 instead if picking services individually disable all:
and reboot your OS and try again
(also run the .exe as administrator)
i hope this was a clear play by play of what i did
to verify if it actually still working i just closed the game and rebooted the .exe from ksp2 folder (run as admin) and started a new campaign again and still works
im really convinced its a conflict with certain background services, my hunch is the VPN services
that all?
yep
yea srry bout that
did it work
not sure
I'm not at my pc atm. currently busy doing non kerbal things like cooking
After my victory smoke gonna test booting the game through steam
't does not work
it even works booting through steam now without running as admin
there is one more thing i forgot i also did and that is clearing steam download cache:
good luck all
did you also read my step 7 and disable ALL startup services? also dont forgot to reboot OS after you did that
if you did that and STILL no success you might want to try installing DX services again aswell as Microsoft visual c+++
The Microsoft DirectX® End-User Runtime installs a number of runtime libraries from the legacy DirectX SDK for some games that use D3DX9, D3DX10, D3DX11, XAudio 2.7, XInput 1.3, XACT, and/or Managed DirectX 1.1. Note that this package does not modify the DirectX Runtime installed on your Windows OS in any way.
obviously start with my step 7 if previous steps didnt help, after that try my steam clear cache thing and as last do the directx and visual C++ thing
guys this problem will be fixed ||hopefully|| soon we just have to wait
Although I can't test it rn, this looks quite promising! Thanks for sharing what worked for you! (and what according to your description may be the first reliable and reproduceable workaround any of us have found)
It also aligns with an observation I got yesterday, that some Microsoft services seemed to take a l o t of resources in the task manager while KSP2 is running, for reasons I did not quite figure out
❤️
I wouldn't doubt Microsoft using 30%+ of my computer without my consent
in my case it was frequently above 50% 💀
It really was chomping off a bigger piece of the cake than even KSP2 itself, and if Chevron's fix doesn't work consistently for others, I'd still be happy about the potential performance boost
I had that happen earlier... i think it wsa something wrong with the graphic settings. Set the graphics settings like change them to something else then change them back on the main menu before loading your game... then it will work.
(I do that each try)
I read something (devlog) day one update so anyone now our problem will be mentioned
what
By the way, I have created a bug report thread. Can you guys confirm that you experience the same issues in that thread so it gets shown a little bit more on top? Thank you.
(https://discord.com/channels/1039959585949237268/1078996575008870450)
I have another question for you all, do you by any chance have vmware installed?
Virtual Machines? If so, no I do not
Aye
Ok
2nd launch and am in orbit woot, game runs pretty decent
Sorry just happy lol
no
HOW DID YOU DO IT?
I didn't get stuck on loading yet but each loading session takes 2 minutes, which is way too long for a game where we might revert flight or load often. Even just simply watching the tutorial video takes at most 2 minutes to load.
oh yeaaah then you have a different issue
we're talking game crashing/irrecoverably freezing on the "Pumping Sim Once"-part of the save loading screen here
so do we know how to fix it?
considering you partook in the conversation where Chevron sent his possible solution, I am surprised you asked
yea i did but it did not work
aww
Sorry raf but i have a hard time believing you
about it did not work WDYM
The way you have been posting in this thread, insulting, not being constructive at all or helpfull
well i said this
it actually worked
it's running like a potato but it worked
I also tried it and Im still stuck at Pumping Sim Once
Raf red arrows you are playing ksp2 for 20 mins now, is it working?
it was now it isnt
Thats great news!!! And also great confirmation!
It gives me further confidence the issue for the most part is services related
And for the people saying it didnt work dont forget to also go the extreme way and disable all services i explained in my step7 approach
I had 1 issue, and that McAfee won't actually turn off lmao
Did you also do my step 7 extreme measure disable all services? And @meager frost that might also be a test to see if it improves performance further for you
Thats very interesting lobster
I also disabled mcafee service when i did it myself
I noticed that if I let it crash and keep waiting it eventually loada
Takes around 15 mins though
Happens for every load screen
I highly recommend disabling all services to see if performance improves
performance wise, I'm getting a solid 20fps when looking away from kerbin
I can finally spend another 100 hours in ksp
there different levels of stuck
For me personally i disabled the services from mcafee, hotspotshield, protonvpn, hp printing, easy anticheat and some
one is pump and other one is kerbal roster data
Kerbal roster is different issue i believe
Its interesting lobster also had mcafee services
I do not have mcafee
But my device is way below recommended specs
So say what you want but if you dont try then well
Oof Endyy thats a bigger issue there then and hard to say then
same
or
it's below a decent bit
So with lobster trying the steps i posted it worked so thats slowly proving a workaround
Again i repeat if it doesnt then try going into msconfig- services then hide all ms services and then hit disable all serviced, reboot pc and try again
If you are unwilling to try then dont complain in this thread
I also have web browsers and discord closed while playing so you can also try that
Very great extra tip
@green oxide its looking like we found a sort of workaround, disabling services through msconfig, although that doesnt make clear still which services are conflicting or causing the main issue
My personal hunch is the mcafee services/vpn services and such
It's a start at least
No problem(I mean I want to play the game I payed for)
XD
ye same here
Same, and i have a very similar problem
@livid rune @woven jackal can ya check these steps please
#1078687584626155560 message
It will take some effort and multiple OS reboots but perhaps will get some progress
I can try later currently not by my pc
Cheers ty
ye
I hope it works for me otherwise looks like i can't play it
already trying that
I don't know if this is the same loading problem i have tho
it has been a day.
still not fixed.
but I'll stay patient
it will be okayt,
okay--
Is there a solution to this problem?
Kinda
Its for both main menu and the pumping sim
Yall can try that
Try these steps please #1078687584626155560 message
didn't work
If ita crashing is it sending you to a specific screen?
Dang
No basically the main topic in here is people get stuck on a loading screen
So for how many people did disabling services actually worked?
Oof mine slightly does that then sends me to a broke main menu
here is the log if anyone wants to read it.
Oof that sounds completely different
@livid rune also disabled all services and rebooted that i mentioned in step 7?
Also try clearing steam download cache
Will read your log in a min
aight i think that the game freezes and thinks its done loading
from the log file at least
I tried it it did not work for me
From my experience it’s a ram/vram issue where the game uses more then the min spec on loading and runs out
From what I can understand yes
didn't work
hopefully not about the ram
There is a temporary solution by increasing the swap file of your computer which would use storage space as ram one normal ram runs out
Do you think the ram too for why i load a save it sends me back to the main menu but broken?
how would i do that
But if ksp keeps using this slower ram it will slow the game down
so the game needs changing?
if its about the ram 2 years of waiting was gone to waste 😔
To change the size of your page file, navigate to the 'System' section of the Windows Control Panel. Open 'Advanced System Settings' and navigate to the 'Advanced' tab. Click the 'Settings' button under the 'Performance' section to open another window. Click on the new window's 'Advanced' tab, and click 'Change' under the 'Virtual Memory'
(Borrowed from google)
wdym by "Windows Control Panel."
Its not per se the ram
At least what we discissing here
Maybe thats food for another thread
Also after disabling all services step 7?
phew
Seems like the issue can be caused by multiple issues
If you are running out of ram when loading the game it’s probably ram
If your rams fine then it’s something else
In this thread its mainly people stuck on pumping sim
is true
Lobster how much ram you got?
8
Then that’s the issue
No
i can run it
ok so im having the same pumping sim problem
ive tried all of chevron's steps and ive increased the virtual memory to like 50 gigs
anyone found a fix yet?
Also if you are all steam users
its still stuck
So thats an issue related to low ram, hardware, or software?
Might want to lower that to something like 8
Please go to steam settings - download and clear download cache
Also try going ksp2 folder and run ksp2 exe as admin
stuck on loading ui background scenes
I know asking alot but trying to help
I’m not sure but for me increasing ram fixed it
Yes please disable mcafee services in msconfig
why tho?
Or go extreme and disable all services in msconfig
Reboot is required before testing do mind
ive tried that as well 🥲
yep done that and all the settings are cranked down to the lowest possible
i have had issues with other games where mcafee decides "oh no, that game is a virus", disable antivirus and reinstall and it works fine
If all else fails download dx and ms visual c++ links i posted below my steps
hmm im gonna try that now as a last ditch effort
When i was stuck loading first thing i checked was ram usuage and didnt see a visible indicator for that
Also the steamnsettings clear download cache
my ram is always maxed out(thanks to mcafee)
Thanks all for being patient and trying things out
My first thought when having the issue was a memory leak tho
But then that doesnt coincide with what fixed it for me by disabling services through msconfig
all we know is something is causing "pumping sim once" to crash. and that something can be disabled in msconfig
personally, i blame mcafee
Plus i didnt see an indication for it in task manager
Yea kinda same lobster
Altho maybe easy anticheat service through epic launcher aswell
Now that i got it working not really privvy in breaking it again to find the real culprit lol
@sour fjord thats not the case i have 16 ram so
@elder lance please fix this thousands of people are not able to play
Same
now thats some thing for a different thread
i changed the windows language from my native language to english and its working now
I had the same issue and changing the windows regional format to English (UK) solved it for me. I know it sounds unrelated but that region format thing coused issues to many people when MSFS - GSX Pro released and changing it just solves is somehow. I've been playing since yesterday and didn't occure again. Give it a try if you want to ..
stuck here
Usually this is because of a lack of RAM
Check tasks manager when opening the game
Even with 16 you may run out if your gpu is using shared ram
i have 45gb 
What gpu?
Verify game files
I'm gone 8 hours to sleep and people got angry fast...
did that like 5 times
my windows is single language can't change it
you can download it from settings - language and time
MSconfig solution does not seem to work for me
kerbal roaster data
Thanks for checkong Yandan
Might also wanna give clearing steam download cache a try
Also if not tried yet do the disable all services thing to check
Already tried, did not work. I also tried closing everything including my 2nd screen
This one
Gotcha that seems to be something different then
Might wanna try Saknes workaround if your windows isnt in english
gonna try reinstalling
Have you gone to KSP_64X and run with admin
IT SOLVED
ANYONE HAVING THE LOADING SCREEN IN THIS LEVEL: Turn your windows language to English (UK). Then you past this level
LES GOOO BOISSSS
I can only change preferred language not display language
Well, it should look like this
yeah I can't change the top one display it's locked to my native
rip
gotta wait for a fix
have fun tho
swithcing to English UK solved the roster thing for me. I am in
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
it
it solved
solveeeeeeeeeed
region it is all about region
Wooot
it is always the region
Happy for you all
GUYS THIS CHAT IS ABOUT PUMPING SIM ONCE
or date times ?D
why do game is not working in Turkiye
it is probably the date format or something
what bug are we talking about
roster stuck bug
People that get stuck at loading roster need to change os to english
YEA this chat is about the pumping sim once bug
fixed it for me through janky waysa
reinstalled tryed to run it, froze my entire computer, restareted my pc then windows had to fix my C: drive and then it worked
so

ok so ive tried all the 7 steps +reinstalled c++ redist + added more virtual memory + rebooted several times
it sitll refuses to budge from pumping sim once
any other ideas?
where did u hear this
this
oh
Dakota and the QA's in here are working on it
oh yea
yeah probably because of the format
change the os language to english if anyone stuck on the loading screen when loading to the campaign
Howdy bean. Doesn't look like anything changed
Rip
My only choice is to wait for a fix
Im just gonna play KSP 1 for now
you should be able to add new language
I cannot change display language
It's locked
I have the single language version whatever
add a language and try again?
weird
it may not allow if your windows is not activated. maybe try activating first
Maybe we should tag the developers for this bug? We at least solved 1 of the 3 bugs
I sent a ticket yesterday, they followed up and i sent the dxdiag and log, now still no response
i did not know single language package was a thing. instead of adding additional language, maybe you can try to change the default language to english. i did a search like windows home single language change language and several pages came up. below you can find two of them. i did not try them myself hope it works.
https://www.asus.com/my/support/FAQ/1030002/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuwXyRfXFg
Hi, everybody. In this video, we tried to explain how to change the language of a computer with the "Windows 10 Home Single Language" operating system.
Transaction Summary:
1- We learned the number of bits and versions of our operating system.
2- We downloaded the language package from Google that is suitable for our operating system.
3- We g...
I'll check them out thanks
Hopefully we get some news soon
yea devs are working on it
same after build
wdym
@unborn ore @tepid portal I FOUND A SOLUTION
WHAT
?
When it says "pumping sim once" just click, constantley and fast
for some reason, it helps it pump
ILL TRY
That worked once for me. But not always
AHHHHHH YESSSSS
i build a plane and this hapen i get stuck wen i launch
Try not reverting to launch or tutorials
ok
sadly did not work for me
doesnt work for me but happy for you lmao
literally no solution so far has worked and ig its upto the devs now
the game wont let me make a new campaign
same
idk what to do!!
nether do we!!
i really hope that it will work soon
we all do
The only thing we can really do is keep trying things ourselves while the devs figure this out :/

Bruh
wdym
oh no
that happend to me
😂 HA 😂 my laptop fell on my face and turned on flight mode and nothing was loading 

good morning pump gang
guys do we have any other way of contacting the devs other than discord and support or DMS?
@mellow sleet
@untold creek
is there a way to fix how i cant make a campaign
Not really. I’d recommend against spamming them too; they’ll give us an update when they have one
Nope, still nothing yet
ok
Please stop pinging the IG staff, they are very busy working on the game.
Raf if you continue pinging members of the IG team we're going to have to mute you, it's very distracting for them.
sorry i said sorry
It's also their weekend.
its all of our weekend
I know, but you also said sorry the last few times that you pinged them and we asked you to stop
🤨
Besides, it wont do anything. They can’t give you a fix when they dont have one
Patience is key here bud, i know it can get frustrating but have some trust in them and let them sort it out, okay?
yea
Yes. But on my weekend, I like to leave my work at work. They work hard on their weekdays, lets let them have time off on the weekends. Even if KSP2 has just released. The devs are here because they need access to our feedback. It's not so that we have access to them. We don't want them to feel they can't be here at all. That's what will happen if the pings don't stop.
Yes, and they (probably) have time off during the weekend
YEA OKAY SHEEESH
We know there's a candidate build in the works as of Friday
what does that mean
We’re just telling you why its a bad idea, no bad intentions here at all
prototype for release
and again what does that mean
It means that a new build that could be released to the public is in testing
Basically an update to deal with some of the bugs
We're not trying to pile on here, btw. It's just trying to impress on you the fact that carrying on with what you are doing is possibly going to be bad for all of us, so lets try and not do the thing anymore. 🙂
okay
how long do you think it will be till the "pumping sim" bug gets fixed? this is a guess and i know you guys dont know it!
@tender stirrup @errant kernel
Could be within a few weeks
Maybe a few days
I'd expect something on that pretty quickly, tbh.
today or tommorow for the weekend patch
But pretty quickly doesn't mean anything in real terms. I expect them to find a fix relatively quickly. For it to get released... that's a question we won't know an answer to.
Do you know if they have a hypothesis or what?
A weekend patch is unlikely
its unplayable 90% for us and some youtubers
theres gonna be a patch to fix atleast this
I haven't seen anything (and I don't have any inside info) but once something like that shows, you get a pointer so you know where to look.
Eventually
99% of bug-fixing is trying to find the point the bug occurs, the other 1% is actually fixing it. That's one of the upsides of EA. Even though we all go through the ringer with bugs, they get found and fixed.
I do expect, unless we get an experimental branch, that updates will be relatively slow.
With the game attached to PD and T2, I have an expectation that each will need to go through QA.
The fact they asked for direct logs and dxdiag dumps from us means they have definitely been looking into it. This is a pretty serious issue, so i assume its one of the higher priority ones. As for when to expect a fix: no clue, hopefully they’ll be able to tell us more later today but i wouldn’t be suprised if it takes a few days
Yeah I hope we do get that
does anyone know how to fix these errrors
ERR 11:24:15.483] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' and key of 'ConsoleDebug/ControlNumericField.prefab'.
[ERR 11:24:15.483] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' and key of 'ConsoleDebug/ControlLabel.prefab'.
[ERR 11:24:15.483] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' and key of 'ConsoleDebug/ControlDropList.prefab'.
[ERR 11:24:15.483] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' and key of 'ConsoleDebug/ControlCheckbox.prefab'.
[ERR 11:24:15.483] AssetProvider unable to find asset of type 'UnityEngine.GameObject' and key of 'ConsoleDebug/ControlHorizontalSlider.prefab'.
yea
Yeah a bug that hinders people from playing the game is going to get triaged as really bad
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at KSP.Game.SaveLoadManager.Update () [0x00000] in <8c5bdf369a8c45f68951f69eb825ef73>:0
and this
Did you verify files?
We’ve tried nearly everything without luck, best we can do at this point is wait
mk
Such is early acces :/ it sucks, but atleast its being looked into. Honestly this game has really nice devs, they actually care about the game and the community
not so sure of that
what is that meant to mean
probably just salty
pretty sure that dev care about the game but not sure the companies think the same
hard to not be with an early i can't even launch
Just for context, many of us (including QA) are working through the weekend to assist the community with day 1 issues. This one has been a tricky one to nail down, but we have 7ish devs looking into it and I'll communicate as soon as I know something.
totally tubular
hope too, i bought two copy one for me and one for my nephew to learn him spatial science but for now i will go for a refund if i can't still launch the game next week. I'm not so salty i'm used to play early access game and the bug that come with it but hey guys if i can't even launch it i will get my 50€ back and wait after you make something playable
I ofund a way to fix
how?
reliably?
go to app dataa
The msconfig didnt work Man?
and delete the whole thing
holy crap it works
where app dataa already?
IK
You got it working man?
YUP
guys guys delete the entire appdata files
Happy for you man
Go to app data
Users
“Ur name
AppData\LocalLow\Intercept Games\Kerbal Space Program 2
%appdata%\..\LocalLow\Intercept Games\Kerbal Space Program 2\
i will test this (i try also on my second pc, my best config)
Y?
Delete the KSP2 folder in AppData, not all AppData
don't care, the game already don't works
Only ksp 2 file
wait are you being serious or joking
ONLY KSP2 FILE!!
OK
NOT APP DATA!!!
ALRIGHT
it work on my other pc XD
If u delete app data then it will delete 90% of ur games etc
yiiiiippeeeee
Yippe
Ok so lets make this clear since there are 3 loading issues in this thread:
-
wont load into main menu
I recommend tryinf disabling startup services through msconfig, mainly mcafee, vpn services and or anti cheat services, at least one other users tested and it helped to get into game -
loading campaign stuck on pumping
Try disabling services, clear steam download cache, reboot and delete ksp appdata folder -
stuck on loading roster
Several users reported changing your OS language to english fixed this
i now will try the appdata thing on my laptop too
Good luck all and please be nice to eachother and dont ping PD staff like that raf dude
what is services and how do you disable it
#1078687584626155560 message
sounds good
A combination of this all might likely help people, however do keep in mind if your running on min or below specs that can slso influence your issues
Now i wanna rename myself to Bhaun Sean
No fix to the Pumping Sim Once issue. It is a known bug. The Devs have mentioned that the Pumping Sim Once done Freezing/Crashing does not appear to be spec related. They are still working. Be patient!
lol
ill keep that one in mind for an alt
OH MY GOD
deleting the folder worked ONCE im gonna try again when/if this session crashes
ok so it's work a little on one of my pc but not on my laptop, don't know why
but hey now i can test it
So just by letting it crash I managed to get it to work a couple of times
refreshing?
Mainly Ive noticed in my Task Manager, it usess all my RAM
me too, maybe a ram trouble
my laptop is quite as the limit not my computer
so the ram is a small answer of why it not work good
but still have crash during tutorial with my biggest computer
My windows crashes once with ksp but thats likely because of the ram being used 100%
If it helps, it seems it can be solved sometimes by putting mouse inputs
Not all the time though
is it fixed now?
tell em to work harder
Bruh
i paid 50$ i want to play
jesus christ, Jesus Christ...
We all were waiting for 3 years, just wait 1 more week lol
NO
If you dont like it, get a refund
Then wait patiently
We have all been waiting for years
They didnt have to give us early access
tru
did it work for u
same man, but you got more time in then i did...
WHAT
AHAHAHA
I went with Chevron's fix, and at Pumping Sim Once, now I bluescreened, twice, instead of ksp2 crashing
not being able to play the game due to a tricky bug is frustrating, but dealing with it is almost as fun
ok maybe avoid this fix for now '
You can try it out if you want
you will always be the best
oi dont be mean to them they are already working hard for this bug fix
Exactly, they’re sacrificing their weekend just to assist the community. Absolute W devs❤️
Common Dev W
Ok
There’s something you don’t understand about business
They are crunching to save the publishers game
If they don’t do it now, because of the lack of good reviews, the game will be screwed
By screwed i mean delays
Or, they could just genuinly care about the game and its community? Most of the dev team were big fans of the original, they even have someone on the team who used to be a prominent modder for ksp1
the game just released chill
Exactly
Its an early acces. They have a long time to go until actual release, so ratings arent all thát important currently. Bugs (even major ones like the one we’re experiencing) are to be expected, and if you’re not okay with that you’d do better to wait until the game gets officially released
Petition to ban @bold vault
Nah, its fair for them to give criticism, as long as they remain civil about it
@green oxide can we ban @bold vault or mute
Dont ping the Devs. They are trying to work to let us play. dont be annoying
aw good point
I see no reason to ban anyone here.
@mighty sandal fine mute him then he is being unreasonable
Please don't demand moderator action.
fine
What happened after I went to bed lmao
everything
Bru u cant ask for someone to be banned for stating an opinion you dont like
He didnt break any rules
We are very well versed in looking and understanding context, and working with that. Disagreeing with someone does not mean they deserve any action taken against them. Remember to remain civil with those you disagree with. If there's a stronger reason for action, use the report function, and we will take a look at it.
WHAT HE WAS BEING MEANT TO DEVS
ah oh yea sorry everyone
What does The Kraken do as a Bot?
he he he
😦
Reporting isn’t gonna change anything
...
What one mod says goes
reporting when there is already a mod in chat...
Idk why people have been acting so childishly abut the game and the players opinions
This
It calls the Mods? Thats good!
Like some people aren’t gonna like it, that’s okay, others are gonna love it, that’s ok too!
ooh a mod call button
Let’s all just be glad there even is a KSP 2
Please don't abuse it.
It might be too late to stop him now
L
Did you read the reason?
yes
That is your answer.
but you did not resolve it
there is no need to be toxic...
take a joke
It is absolutely resolved.
really really huh no
That the resolution doesn't match what you want does not mean it isn't resolved.
I suggest if you have any further issues, you DM me.
This is devolving quickly
Did the loading stick glitch get fixed?
Don’t think so
Ok
Probably be patched over the weekend
I’m sure I’ll enjoy the game soon enough
maybe not
I’m happy waiting
There’s 7 devs looking into it; we’re in good hands
1050ti is a good bit below the minimum spec’s currently
I don’t suppose an intel Pentium i3 can run it
Eh, i think i just got in?
Overtime the system requirements should go down but as of now your specs aren’t enough for the game
The intro video is playing atleast
Probably not
Whoops
You could try it
So far it’s just been stuck on pumping sim but it’s a good start
Major part is the ram
Aaand it still crashed 😦
But GPU runs on full uses
The ram is plenty but the gpu will be your limiting factor
Right
I think they can optimise the Tessellation required for the GPU
From some testing yesterday, OBS was crashing when I was trying to record. One time it worked by me starting KSP2 after I was recording. Guess when OBS crashed next?
So even low end can run it
If they don’t get stuck on the loadscreen, yes
So this just happened:
I lowered the games resolution, tried to open a new campaign, actually got through the loadscreen, then got to see a very choppy intro video before the game crashed once more
Progress?
hope fully the devs will have it fixed soon but we just have to wait they are working so hard for use
‘Pumping Sim Once’?
You got it.
Huh, odd
That hints to me that pumping sim once is stressing the GPU at that stage.
we just need to wait
That then pushes towards a GPU difficulty, which is likely to affect lower spec GPUs. (all just an idle theory at this point)
Pumping Sim once also caused my graphics driver to crash when I was purposefully using my iGPU.
But some people here yesterdam claimed they had above recommended GPU’s, so it’s weird the issue would occur for them too then
I have a feeling it can occur to anyone, but likelihood increases the lower spec you have. I also had it fail once on my discrete GPU.
I do not think pumping sim is related to GPU. I am playing the game with old 1050ti laptop right now. I even did a kinda succesful mun landing
I’m honestly just as curious as to what’s causing the issue as to how to fix it
Seems to be rather complex
As I say, it's idle theory, but I don't usually consider this many coincidences without taking a closer look.
True that. I’ll try watching if my GPU does anything weird when pump sim occurs, haven’t looked at that yet
Can you try to close everything possible? This includes second screen and every app that uses cpu and ram. And lower every setting including resolution and make it windowed. Then also remove the appdata files. Open it as administrator. And in the loading screen spam click the game
right i am off to bed soon i am in uk so like its 10 so i am going to bed soon
be good
Never close it again.
I was trying to look at my gpu in task manager after it got stuck, opened the game again and voila
This feels like a weird memory leakage so, maybe you clicked few times while loading?
what is loading roster
do you mean in settings going to Time & Language > Language > windows display language or something else?
Loading roster error is this one. This error is solved if you change your Windows language to english UK. At least it solved on me and few people
yes
windows display language
Windows display language. I should have a screenshot for this in a bit up on this thread
I have mine on English (United States) does it have to be UK? Because it's currently not working for me
try it, some of them fixed by changing it to uk
Not sure, I only tested UK and it worked
Does it have to be windows display language or just in windows preferred languages?
do you know?
display language
See this one
anything yet?
Nothing reliable
Some have found that if they change Language to English UK, it works
I've just gotten in by using KSP2_64 as admin, but idk. It does not always work.
I got as far as the ksc, but it crashed when i tried to open the vab. No clue how i got it to load in the first place
I'm at recommended settings but was getting hung up on loading... Reinstalled and verified files as well as lowered graphics settings to min... Now able to play
I got a save file, but when i try to load it it pumps sim once
I do too now, i was hoping trying to open a save rather than starting a new game would work but it results in the same issue
I really hope the devs find a fix soon, i cant wait to play😢
I installed a the newest driver and it worked once, I tried like 5 more times. Then I restarted and still didn't work. My suspicion is that the 1920MB of VRAM is the cause of my problem. What's weird is that in the log line 146 it says that [LOG 15:03:16.441] [System] Pumping Sim Once completed in 0.0303s. Here's my log:
@green oxide
People with way more VRAM also seem to run into the issue
The rest of my system is up to spec though, so it's not like my gpu is helping the problem is what I'm saying.
Ok, I got it to work, but I was luck I think. I closed everything in the background, launched it from steam, it crashed to desktop during save loading, then I tried again from the file explorer and it worked...Here's my log:
Realized I didn't have the kerbals I wanted and reverted...crashed to desktop again. Log:
huh, why isn't it letting me upload my crash log
wierd
i got a CTD when it pumped the sim once when i ran it in admin
there we go
what I find interesting is that my log states that "pumping sim once" took only 0.0033s, maybe it's because my ksp crashed due to overly poor hardware though
i'm unsure
It doesn’t CTD if I launch through launcher/the exe directly without admin
i think this is my log for this time
Any solutions?
not yet
any luck?
I restarted my PC and waited a bit, after a while it would stop at that same point for around 15 seconds and then would continue loading.
For anyone not able to even get the loading bar to move, and if in your Player.log is mentioning DXGIFactory at all. Copy dxgi.dll from Windows/System32 folder => into Steam\SteamApps\common\Kerbal Space Program 2\KSP2_x64_Data\Plugins folder then rename the dxgi.dll file to d3d11.dll Hope this helps.
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You should have them in your Windows/System32 folder, and if you do not maybe do a file search?
It is just the dxgi.dll file you need to COPY(for clarity) over to the Plugins Folder and then rename it to d3d11.dll
same
I got it running for a bit! verified integrity and disabled all the programs as said
At any particular point? Anything repeatable to isolate the issue?
nope, just whenever i try to start playing and it gets to the pumping sim it crashes
Same if I launch in admin
Good question.
If they fix it, they will probably announce the update, just wait.
I’m above minimum, it takes forever to load then crashes and you can’t enter a game or create one. So I think the problem isn’t just specs
My game freezes at pumping sim once, albeit on way sub-minimum specs (i7-7500U, GeForce 940MX, 16 GiB RAM). Graphics drivers are fully up to date and both normal/launcher and running the exe directly as admin don't seem to work. The music keeps on going, so the game is still sort of running in some capacity. It isn't getting quite far enough to actually start a new save, apparently
My game loads through pumping sim once extremely slowly, and it’s honestly getting a bit annoying
Are all settings set as low as they can be? Also are there anything in your Graphics cards software settings overriding the applications settings?
(Obviously as a method of diagnosis)
Mine are set to all low
Have any with the "Pumping Sim Once" issue tried minimizing the program as soon as loading starts and waiting it out? Or anyone with loading issues at all.
Yep, i did that earlier today and it got me through into the ksc screen. Still crashed when trying to load the VAB tho, so i don’t think that actually fixed it
It’s also unreliable i might add. Most of the time the game would still be stuck on the loading screen and immediately crash when i maximised it again
Obviously it* was meant as a means of troubleshooting, rather than an actual reliable game fix. What it points to for the ones it does help would likely be an issue with DXGI (Direct X Graphics Infrastructure) and how the Swap Chain Rendering has been applied. Which seems to be missing -force-d3d11 in the case of Unity 2020.3 LTS
Yeah that's true the game is very buggy at this point, so that is probably what it is. Also I eventually got it to work, even though I'm way below minimum
I normally have to restart to even have a chance of loading in
guys enough there is no way to fix it we just need to wait @here
Weekly challenge?
#1078452800415092776 (warning, forums are having issues in this discord, so posting pics might not work)
Stuck too... Still no solution ?
Yeah, nothing
:/
Reinstalling got me into the vab and launch, revert still got stuck again
the tests have already cost me an hour of play, I only have one more to be able to ask for a refund...
Up to you... I'm keeping, and I'll try again tomorrow. I just want to get to the mun, then I'll wait till the next patch. Or next week's challenge.
I can't even access the KSC personally
If I can load the save then I can....as long as it's not loaded a whole savefile it works, like the main menu and all the buildings work
is pumping sim once fixed?
Not yet, sadly :/
oh same!
What worked for me (only time I did it, mind you, don't know if it has an effect when one only has one data point, but I had a 100% failure rate elsewhen) is to go to the tracking station, where my FPS is ~100 times higher than the KSC screen (ik my gpu is awful ok) and open the VAB from there
If it fails, at least you have seen some pretty planets in the process:)
I'd love resolution settings (8th/4th/half/full resolution) and KSC trees being toggleable by terrain scatter settings as some performance settings that could, even if the GPU is not at fault here, in any case improve performance
If i manage to get into the ksc again today, i’ll try that 🙂 i’d love to just build * someting* at this point haha
Didn’t know you could enter the VAB directly from the trackint station in ksp2, thats a nice quality of life improvement
im still stuck at pumping sim once regardless of opening a pre-existing save or making a new campaign of various permutations and combinations
i have tried literally every single solution in this thread 🥲
same
yuup, same 🥲
after crashing trying to drive a 11-part rover I have decided to change my KSP2 EA goals from playing to testing, at least before I get a direly needed non-integrated GPU
(the times I manage to pump the sim once)
Mine´s stuck too
good morning pump gang
WHAT ABOUT THE PUMPING SIM ONCE BUG
that isnt a bug for me
😭 LUCKY
but what drive
leme check
ok
ssd
ssd
Nice, mine still doesn’t work. Maybe they’ll update soon tho
hopefully
its ssd
hopefully:(
the real question is what does "soon" mean...
Any updates?
I do not believe

Any devs reading this that might be able to give us an update on where you’re at with this issue? Has the cause been found yet? Not gonna ping y’all, i dont want to bother any of you
(yeah can we, yknow, maybe not ping red, purple or orange-roled people here)
(they're already prioritising this issue quite heavily, and have said they'll bring good news to us when there's good news to bring)
As Arjja-lavlla says, Dakota said they would swing by when they have some information.
Right, guess we’ll have to show some more patience. It’s hard though, watching everyone have fun with the game already
I know. It's hard, because we also want you to be playing the game not stuck behind a bug. Process has to be followed though. (And I can't give you any updates on anything as I literally know nothing)
at least this is a prime opportunity for making wishes of what we'll do in KSP2. Remember to write the ideas down somewhere, so you can make them come true 
Is the bug atleast already being reviewed by the devs?
yes!
Good to know.
(latest update, I think?)
oh, and we accidentally turned ourselves bug testers!
btw I can with more confidence conclude that changing MS accounts does not fix the ⛽ nor widen the cracks of success
so when do we expect a update? @here
when there is one:)
either in a few weeks, or a few months
wow so long

nobody knows except the devs

This haha
I’m honestly fine with it, i truly believe this dev team will do ksp2 justice as a succesor to the original. I knew what i signed up for with early acces, and that issues like this could happen. Still cant help feeling a little disappointed i cant play yet, but there are worde things in life
Im having fun bugtesting. Makes loading into the game feel rewarding.
yea
my computer specs for anyone interested (like devs if they look here)
Processor - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor 3.59 GHz
System type - 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Graphics - DELL SP2309W (2048x1152@60Hz)
6128MB ATI AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT (ASRock) OS - Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Motherboard - ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI) (AM4)
%1 Chipset Ram - 16.0GB
that formatted weird
It’s pretty cool that the devs have acknowledged our “complaints”
That makes me think we’re in good hands
ye
But when will we get an answer, and will it be the same answer for everyone?
That's why I emailed support directly, so I can 1-on-1 help for my case.
But it's been two days now.
I can wait. Even if for some reason I'm unable to play KSP2, at least I gave some money to those who deserve it.
fr
Im thinking of asking for a refund
But i dont think its worth it
Since the game wont become cheaper any time soon
And im going to install it back once this bug is fixed
I can still get my money back, but just the fact that the developers did not peace out after releasing the buggy game cough cough age of history, instead actually trying to solve our issues, means I'm not going to
I think I'll have quite a lot of fun in KSP2 when I can
Maybe if i can reset the game data Over and Over again it "might "work
Assuming its getting stuck on some memory issue
I'm stuck on a different loading step (Creating vehicle), but this appears to be the error loop the game is caught in
The funny part is

is pumping sim once fixed yet?

I got past it once, and my computer is a potato. like a core i3 processer and a dell 5500 gpu, but it ran it, so thats not the issue
I changed my display language to UK English and now it works every time
i just did that and it no work
Dang that sucks
Na, my theory is it’s software with unity or windows ++ library thingy. Some people may not have the correct dependencies software installed, and their game can’t execute the unity simulation. Aka it’s stuck on load
I personally don’t have the issue so I can’t test this, but it is my theory.
I have a few hours logged now in game and flying but I did used to have the pumping Sim once issue
At around 6 fps
no, its definitely a ksp issue
Uh
lol
I don’t…? Think so?
only helps with a certain stuck screen
not for pump
Sorry my phone hit enter to quick lol
far too many people have the issue for it to be clientside
It helped me with pump
That’s why it can be a common thing for dependencies, Unity is a bit .. difficult.
Unity didn’t install the dependencies it needs, ksp 1 may run but ksp 2 may not.
Diff versions of unity
just hope they fix it soon
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so do the devs now know what the issue is?
In another thread about this is says to make sure your computer language English(UK). Nit sure about the validity of that, but it seemed to help someone else
I tried resetting my graphic‘s settings and then it worked. For some reason there were some multiple selections like „medium + high“ at the same time.
Thats just a visual glitch, the doubles dissapear when you hover over them
Well, I just had luck then
I just hope the bug stays away
Hope so for you too!
Im sure there will be a hotfix coming pretty soon that resolves all these game breaking bugs
all we need to hold on to is a little patience
i tried that


Which one did it solve? If you say roster data I will be extremely happy.
pretty sure changing language to english (UK) was the solution for roster thing
Thanks. I will need to get rid of my win11 single language then, I guess.
It crashed my laptop 😭
roster I believe
Omg
Any solution already?
So i have this exact same problem with the Pumping Sim Once loadning bug. I have tried changing my language to English (UK) ... but idk why that would work. im running on low graphics for everything and 720p but nothing I do will work. ive tried deleting the KSP2 folder Intercept Games folder, just reinstalling on steam but its the same thing every time
I have been having a problem when loading from the VAB after returning back and launching again it gets stuck
i have never even got into a save
i have almost 4 hours playtime and i havent started a campaign
Im saving it
Just in case
If i want a refund
Prob not hapenning
im not refunding, i hope intercept can use my money to make a game that can actually create a save
changing display language to UK is for a different loading issue it's for the "Loading Roster Data" stuck bug
@forest void try this
2nd one
i tried that. no difference. still trying to pump sim once
Whats your system specs and pc or laptop
laptop
integrated GPU
i’m buying more ram tomorrow i’ll see if that helps
once i do that i’ll be above minimum specs in all regards
Please let us know if it does, as far as i know nobody’s tried upgrading their system yet
im running a laptop aswell, for me disabling services through msconfig fixed it
yeah it HAS only been out like 3 days so not a lot of time for people with problems to sort stuff out
And to assure you this will be fixed; dakota said 7 devs were working on this issue 2 days ago. There’s a lot of people with the same issue, we just have to stay patient and wait for the devs to find a solution
i saw that. what do you mean?
I’ve been meaning to ask, what services did you disable exactly?
in msconfig in the services tab you can untick services that get booted with the windows boot, e.g. like mcafee service even if you dont use mcafee
also vpn services you might not actually use or vmware services
the most rigorous option is to hide all windows services then hit disable all and reboot
although more ram in your case might not hurt
I’ve disabled those already, so i might have to try your more rigorous option
for me i disabled services like Mcafee, easy anti-cheat service, hotspotshied/protonvpn
its definatly worth a try doing the rigorous option, dont forget to reboot first, then also go to C users appdata and delete entire ksp folder
then go to ksp folder and run ksp exe as admin
can someone ping me so i can easily find my way to this spot
did you also check task manager to see ram usage?
0 usage so i presume it crashed but didn’t close
seems to be that way for most
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ITS TILL NOT FIXED??
My loading gets stuck right in the middile, it cant load "Kerbal Roaster Data"
It's literally only just Monday give them some time, game development is a large and complex task and the cause of a problem is often not obvious right away. The devs have a lot on their plate right now and are doing their best, unfortunately all we can do is be patient and wait for a solution to be found and implemented.
A quick patch job might fix one issue, but if you're not careful could cause even more problems down the line.
I'm not like unhappy about how long this is gonna take, I'm just sad that I cannot play the game, I will try to contain my patience
I'm sure that once the issue is resolved it will be communicated.
hopefully 🙏
also my loading gets stuck at "Loading Kerbal Roaster Data", is it same for anyone else?
change your computer language to English (uk) and I think that worked for everyone else
as a previous user mentioned, alot of people experiencing the Loading Roster issue have solved it by changing windows to English UK language, might have to download the language pack for that but that seems to be the way to get rid of the loading roster issue
Same i cant start a campaign
no solution for "Pumping Sim Once" ?
not any solid solutions yet, but i’m sure pd is working on it
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