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fringe minnow Jul 7, 2024, 12:49 PM

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Currently i have "sepa incasso" enabled for recurring payments.
The payment status keeps being pending. I really want to enable a subscription based on payment. I there a way to process the payment immediately?

sonic hatch Jul 7, 2024, 12:50 PM

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Hi Wouter,

The status stays on pending until we receive the funds from the charged bank accounts. Please note that during the weekend, no direct debits are executed by the banks.

fringe minnow Jul 7, 2024, 1:01 PM

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ok, can i use mollie payment for recurring?

fringe minnow Jul 7, 2024, 1:32 PM

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some more info on the matter:
say i have a subscription service for a digital good with an interval of a day.
I use mollie for the first payment.

my guess is i have to initiate a first payment every time to get the status to paid immediately to enable the goods.

How to handle the recurring payment for the subscription if no direct debits are handled in the weekend? Is there a reliable way to keep the digital good enabled?

sonic hatch Jul 7, 2024, 2:16 PM

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If you want direct feedback on a recurring payment, then you should use Credit Card.

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Those will (almost) go immediatly to paid or another status which tells you more

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With Direct Debit you are depended on the banks

fringe minnow Jul 7, 2024, 6:28 PM

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have to stick with ideal for now.
So i guess i have to initiate a first payment every time to get things going and then create the subscription for the next period? is that the common route to go? can seem to wrap my head around

sonic hatch Jul 7, 2024, 6:33 PM

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I am not sure what you mean...

The first payment is, as the name says, the first payment that needs to be done to create a mandate which you can use for the automatic, recurring, payments after.

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Have you checked the doc about this?
https://docs.mollie.com/docs/recurring-payments

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 6:52 AM

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yes, i did. the question is more what the best route is to enable a digital good with an ideal payment.
As the first payment is an actual payment that get the paid status fairly quick. the recurring payment in some cases is staying in 'pending' very long.

so, what should i do:

create a first payment every time, that gets the paid status quickly. so i can unlock the digital good
unlock a digital good while the payment status is 'pending' with a recurring payment (or a subscription i guess, which is the same as a recurring payment but with an interval)

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 9:15 AM

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I can, of course, not decide how you design your payment flow. But what most do is keeping the service enabled until a failure or chargeback comes in. In that case, they block the service and try again or reach out to the customer

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 9:21 AM

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ok. thanks.

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would it also be possible to update the payment amount of a subscription when its active? i would like to implement some sort of sliding scale when yout purchase the n-th item. of course deleting the first item also scales the rest. Is this allowed?

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 9:42 AM

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Yes you can 🙂

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You can also create the recurring payments yourself without the Subscriptions API for full freedom

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 9:54 AM

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i know, but then i have create the payments myself every month i think?

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 9:55 AM

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Correct

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 9:59 AM

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do i understand correctly that if a payment fails or gets a recharge, the subscription becomes inactive automatically?

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 10:04 AM

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Not immediatly.

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 10:09 AM

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how much time would pass by before it does?

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 10:10 AM

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It mostly depends on the reason code

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E.g. if the reason code is that the bank account is closed, we stop it immediatly

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 10:16 AM

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ok, i could also not find the status 'chargeback' for the subscription webhook in the dapi ocumentation directly. Have seen it on another page that i dont remember. Is this also a status thats communicated to the webhook for the payment?

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api documentation

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 10:26 AM

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Correct there’s not such a status. You have to check if there are chargebacks for a certain payment when you get the webhook

fringe minnow Jul 8, 2024, 11:10 AM

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ok. thanks. is there anything i could do to easily test these scenario's? given the webhooks gets called with a minimum interval of one day plus i cannot create a test charge back.

sonic hatch Jul 8, 2024, 11:12 AM

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Unfortunately not. 😦
Our testmode imitates the live mode. So the minimum is one day.

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