Make pressing E open the nearest door.

[coral plinth]

Would be a lot less tedious than having to mouse over and click on it.

[autumn bobcat]

auto doors exist

[coral plinth]

Would be great on outposts.

Would also be great for accessibility.

RSI and all that.

I don't want to have to constantly mouse over and click on every effing door while navigating an outpost. Just let me press a button.

[cedar berry]

Issue immediately crops up when its not an auto door but rather a custom door with manually placed buttons, but then again, bots figure it out most of the time, so should be possible

[untold light]

For button doors, you can click the door itself.

[flint river]

his whole problem is that he doesn't want to click

[untold light]

Get a autoclicker to spam left click when you run?

Other than that, skill issue unfortunately

[kind rapids]

Worth considering that at least in my play groups the absolute clunkiness of interacting with doors was a common complaint among both groups.

These people are basically only playing because they are good friends and I dragged them into Baro. I think it's less a skill issue and poor UI that fans of the game have learned to play around. Part of baros "Charm" as it were.

[surreal saddle]

Just rebind your mouse button to E and press the keyboard instead of the mouse when opening doors.

[autumn bobcat]

just wire motion sensors to the doors it's not that hard

[zinc kraken]

Then it would flood everything; that is the first actually sensible suggestion

[zinc kraken]

Try to think for atleast 2 minutes and then you will understand

[autumn bobcat]

water detector

[zinc kraken]

So the water detectir disables the motion detector?

[autumn bobcat]

no, the water detector would prevent auto opening (manual only) if a room on either side was flooded.

[zinc kraken]

Just say yes. O.o

[autumn bobcat]

anyway basically I'm saying there's no need for this E feature because you can make an automatic door easily

[cedar berry]

I'd like to add to this with these two issues I can personally see for new players.

Baros netcode causes people to constantly teleport back behind doors despite appearing in front of them which despite being a small thing, is so fucking frustrating, moreso to new players who haven't learnt to deal with it and press the door again
"Door with buttons" and custom doors with additional buttons are two different things, and some subs even have both at the same time, Door with buttons are one whole item you press, where custom doors and buttons are 3 separate items in most cases, most doors on vanilla subs use the Door with buttons system, which then gets more confusing when suddenly pressing the door doesn't do anything.
Its also worth noting the hitbox to activate Doors with buttons is far larger than individual button hitboxes as you can see in the image.

[coral plinth]

Outposts. Not your sub, geniuses.

Can't believe there'd be people who would be against adding a keybind to interact with the nearest door or button lol.

Some people must really like tedium and RSI injuries.

If a keybind was added to interact with the nearest door or button and you don't want to use it, then don't. Its inclusion would have no negative impact on your experience and would be very helpful to everyone else.

[coral plinth]

"Skill issue." people are the worst.

"I have no issue with the way things are, so it shouldn't be changed and if anyone else has issue with it they're just not good enough."

stfu

[untold light]

thats fair

i dont see the reason for adding a button for that, especially not as a replacement for the E key

[untold light]

and if you dont want feedback, this probably isnt the right place

[strong flint]

Skill issue isn't exactly feedback but ok

[coral plinth]

Replacement? I don't think you understand.

[coral plinth]

Thank you.

[untold light]

yeah its not, i probably could have phrased it better

[coral plinth]

Pressing E or any other key when near a door or button currently does nothing. I want pressing E (without any tools equipped, of course) to interact with the nearest button or door, regardless of where your mouse is.

Or a different key, if need be. I just feel E would be the most convenient. Of course it should be rebindable.

To expand upon that, I want a specified button to interact with the nearest interactable object period. Opening the UI for a machine or storage, pressing a button, opening a door, etc.

Mousing over and clicking on something is far from the most elegant solution.

[autumn bobcat]

[autumn bobcat]

you still have to mouse over it and press E. how is that different from click

[coral plinth]

I mean not having to use the mouse at all. Near something? Press E/some other button to perform the primary interaction.

[autumn bobcat]

how tf is the game supposed to know what you want to interact with if you don't use the mouse to indicate it lmao

it can't read your mind

I've seen so many ideas or feature requests like this for other games that boil down to "I want the game to read my mind"

[untold light]

and people upvote them

[coral plinth]

Interactable that is physically nearest to the player controlled character.

How does that not make sense?

[autumn bobcat]

then it'd just end up like, hitting a light or something lmao

using the mouse is easier

[untold light]

yeah, even outposts have lots of interaction points

[coral plinth]

Then sort things by priority, then. Or just do it for doors and buttons.

[autumn bobcat]

the clunkiness is intended in baro fyi

[untold light]

doors are supposed to be a bit slow

[coral plinth]

That's stupid.

[autumn bobcat]

how do we decide what priority works for everyone, and how do we decide for example if things overlap

[autumn bobcat]

baro is supposed to be clunky and unpolished atmosphere, fitting the barely scraping by that humanity is doing

[coral plinth]

I'm not saying there wouldn't be edge cases. Just doors and buttons. That's all I want.

[autumn bobcat]

realistically you have to press the button

telepathic doors isn't a thing

[autumn bobcat]

motion sensor

[coral plinth]

Outposts don't save changes, though? And I don't want to have to add motion sensors to every outpost?

[autumn bobcat]

yeah but then what if there's a button and a door next to something else interactable or smth

[autumn bobcat]

ok, then request "motion sensor outpost doors"

[coral plinth]

Just. Buttons. And. Doors.

[autumn bobcat]

idk why opening doors is such an issue, it takes like no time

[autumn bobcat]

ok?

[coral plinth]

Already have. People disagree for some reason.

[autumn bobcat]

it's a feature that you and only you would ever use anyway tbh

and would make wiring annoying

[untold light]

bro made a suggestion in #1148990812013744180 and doesnt expect feedback

[coral plinth]

I don't expect people to have a reason to oppose a quality of life addition which has zero negative impact on the way they currently play.

[untold light]

the devs dont have infinite time

[autumn bobcat]

wiring interactions would also be annoying and inconsistent with how the E key is used in the rest of the game, confusing people.
consistently, mouse is used to open inventory GUI and E in for repair and wiring
this would not follow the bre established system

[untold light]

there are much better uses of that time imo

[autumn bobcat]

holding a screwdriver? wiring mode, door won't open

that's stupid

[coral plinth]

Why would anyone not want to just be able to open/close a door, press a button, or flip a lever just by pressing a key?

[untold light]

your extending this to buttons and levers?

[coral plinth]

Instead of having to mouse over to it.

[untold light]

thats just a recipe for disaster

[autumn bobcat]

👆I'd rather they spend time adding new stuff than spending time making a feature 0.1% of players would use

[autumn bobcat]

ever heard of left mouse button

[coral plinth]

You two make no sense.

[autumn bobcat]

this just goes back to the fact you want the game to read your mind lmao

if you want this so bad, go make a mod
with lua it shouldn't be too hard

[coral plinth]

What does "button/lever/door nearest to player" have to do with reading your mind?

[untold light]

which one do you want?

two buttons lets say

one near feet

one near head

[autumn bobcat]

it'd be insanely inconsistent and annoying
you are acting like the game can know which direction you want to press

[coral plinth]

Closest to the center of the player model, then.

[untold light]

then its just

see heres the issue then

[coral plinth]

Or effing pick one at random. I don't care.

[untold light]

doors are kind of slow on multiplayer

[autumn bobcat]

it's just you want the game to read your mind

[coral plinth]

Anything would be better than having to mouse over to it.

[autumn bobcat]

go get an elon musk brain chip and come back when you've modded the game to read your mind

[untold light]

if the goal is to speed you up then making you get super close to the door is not useful

[coral plinth]

Bugger off with that.

[autumn bobcat]

tbh it's what you want

[untold light]

well, at this point i think weve all made out points and are just arguing

[autumn bobcat]

yes

[coral plinth]

You two are brick walls.

[autumn bobcat]

so are you

[untold light]

we all are

[autumn bobcat]

my brick wall is made of neutronium bricks with mortar made of liquid astatine

[untold light]

sounds pretty strong

[coral plinth]

Regardless, judging by the thumbs up on this thread it seems it's a common opinion that opening doors on outposts is too tedious and there are things that could be done to make it less tedious.

[autumn bobcat]

i think the devs won't waste their time

[coral plinth]

I think you're trolling me by disagreeing with everything I say, just for the sake of it.

[autumn bobcat]

no

i legitimately disagree with your idea

I've said my points

we leave it to the devs

or, you make a simple mod

it wouldn't be hard

[strong flint]

make a mod for it completely removes the point of baro ideas, as why not just mod in every feature eh, and if it’s so simple, the devs can add it easily too

[untold light]

Bruh why you guys still arguing

[surreal saddle]

Pressing buttons can have serious consequences depending on how good/bad the wiring in your submarine is. Having a button on the keyboard to activate the nearest button, which you also press constantly to open doors, seems like the perfect recipie to massively increase the amount of accidental depth charge launches or fixfoam detonator activations.

[autumn bobcat]

👆exactly what I've been saying
the game can't read your mind to see what you want to press

[surreal saddle]

Aim assist already exists; that helps for pressing buttons, opening doors, and any other device. You are always going to need to use the mouse a little bit.

[autumn bobcat]

[elder flume]

Bad point, the thing on the left should not exist to begin with.

[edgy monolith]

just ask them to add autodoors to stations instead then

instead of a game mechanic exclusive to outposts

there are mods that do this you know

autodoors for stations?

[cedar berry]

Doors with separate buttons give a lot more power for wiring

[elder flume]

Only for those with inadequate skill

[cedar berry]

[coral plinth]

I meant it's not a problem on your own sub, not that it should only work on outposts.

[untold light]

Omg the argument continues

Also @coral plinth man you should really consolidate some of your suggestions into big “QOL” suggestions you are flooding the channel

I see like 3 a day from you

[surreal saddle]

Plz no

Giant QoL 50-point discussions are cancer

Much easier to follow 50 different threads rather have everyone talking in one big one

[untold light]

People who dont post 3 times a day just have their posts swallowed though

They should have a chance to be heard

[coral plinth]

God forbid I use the ideas forum for its intended purpose and participate in reasonable discussions lol.

[coral plinth]

If you don't want to be pinged, then just leave the thread.

Or do you just like to complain?

[weak shale]

on the Nautilus workshop sub, there are multiple buttons/switches attached to each door

the switches toggle the automatic mode and the buttons toggle them open and closed

if there was a key which just pressed the nearest button/switch, you'd be pressing the wrong one on accident all the time

so the distinction has to either be made in the sub editor or on a client-side priority list

i think the complexity that this adds is too much

even for doors with buttons it doesn't make sense due to the fact they are often wired to other things

like buttons or levers which toggle locks or whatnot

also, what happens in an airlock where there's multiple doors very close together?

perhaps a way to make this a little better would be to pick the closest button or door within a 30 degree arc from the middle of the character to the cursor

in almost every videogame, interactions require you to aim directly at the object and click or press a key

this is due to how hard and complicated it really is to tell what the player is trying to click when there's multiple things close by

it really can't be done in a proper, all-encompassing, quality way without some way to accurately predict what the player's aim is

maybe my aim is to press the airlock hatch again or maybe i'm trying to press the decontaminate button and fry myself

anyways, and i mean this sincerely, autodoors exist for this

a motion detector wired to a door isn't the same feature, but is analogous

and i recommend building or attaching these into subs

not only for QoL but if the feature of having to click things is annoying it could be useful for you