Vibe Reverse Engineering Toolset

[quaint kelp]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GEi4dLoZFfmiFL4U_tZjLw5kg5Ee9g5M/view?usp=sharing

heres the x86 ver

[dull swallow]

ill test it later

[quaint kelp]

ok

[dull swallow]

FUCK

[rose oasis]

wat

[dull swallow]

the actual object/world placement is likely already baked into vertex positions for these draws.

im at 95% quota and spent all day on this blehhh

[rose oasis]

you'll want to try to pull rendering information from another spot then

but i'm sorry 🫂

[dull swallow]

and thats where we end it off for the week sob

[rose oasis]

🫂

[rose oasis]

grr

told claude that X didn't fix Y

spend 45 minutes talking

it tries X to fix Y

[pine coral]

https://tenor.com/view/special-dumb-dummy-gif-7068419121745449264

[simple orchid]

Claude just asked me a record 15 questions.....claude i'm vibe coding, I have no idea just do what you think's best

[solemn epoch]

I hate it when Claude does that. When you only want to get shit done and it's like

16. Do you believe in God? 17. Would you call yourself insecure? 18. Are you friends with your father?

[vagrant kernel]

What service is this

[crimson yacht]

Antigravity

[vagrant kernel]

Is it good?

[crimson yacht]

I wouldve said its great like 2 weeks ago but all the models have been lobotomized recently for no reason
(Unless its a skill issue but I actually think theyve made them dumber)

Like gemini 3 flash which is an already weak model actually managed to get some things done, but now it cant do the most basic of tasks

[vagrant kernel]

RIP. I've had some good experiences with Gemini but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it fully

Is Claude usable on Antigravity or do they charge you out the ass

[crimson yacht]

Charge? For AI? In this economy? Im a free trial leech, it resets every week (exposed)
don't know much about the pricing of claude, but I can tell you that you'll almost never be able to use Claude on a weekday, it always tells you "We're experiencing high traffic", its the number one issue people are having with antigravity

[vagrant kernel]

Hmm, that's a shame

[vagrant kernel]

Lots of AI getting stuck on steps recently. Gonna be awesome for people once Github Copilot is switched to usage based billing

Btw I tried making a RTX Remix compatible DX9 renderer for REDRIVER2 (Driver 2 PC port) but it's pretty deep in "remixers will say it's peak" territory

I guess this is what happens when you feed PS1 geometry to RTX Remix

[vagrant kernel]

These PS1 games love putting all textures on a big atlas

[bright roost]

Btw, claude code probably wont be available in the pro version of claude in the future

Yay, paying 100 bucks just to use code

[golden raven]

What the fuck

Insane

[quaint kelp]

ue4 game

with the proxy

nothing is getting drawn

i dont know what that is

[solemn epoch]

Random garbage that is

[quaint kelp]

ok ill clean it up

matter of fact ill wait, im 50 usd over

[solemn epoch]

You probably shouldn't waste money on this🙂

[quaint kelp]

its a proxy not a wrapper

but yea

dis true

just waiting 30 days is a pain

[tropic stream]

btw is this the dx11 proxy or remix plus

i wanna try hello neighbor

[quaint kelp]

its a proxy hang on

[quaint kelp]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5mm6L8D14kA9GMevEDnESmC-gGi8A_m/view?usp=sharing

im not releasing on github rn

not until its stable

[tropic stream]

are we having "(WIP) UnrealRTX" rn

[quaint kelp]

its for all games. dont mind the proxy window name. i kept it for cr credit and plus is for sparkles

[tropic stream]

also,

[quaint kelp]

did it make a unity remix log

[tropic stream]

yeah, why?

[quaint kelp]

i need it

[tropic stream]

im trying to upload it but discord isnt letting me 😭

[quaint kelp]

probably host it somewhere. you need nitro for bigger files

[tropic stream]

its 0 kb anyways

[quaint kelp]

give me the remix log

in rtx remix

[tropic stream]

also 0 kb

[quaint kelp]

ill check rq

[tropic stream]

also, i was using the pre alpha version of hn

which is ue4 4.8.3

[bright ermine]

v0.2 is out btw 😛 , idk if that game is monobleedingedge tho

[alpine dove]

its actually c++ ❤️

[tropic stream]

are you talking about hello neighbor

[quaint kelp]

hello neighbor is unreal

[tropic stream]

idk how anyone can confuse hn for unity... maybe its just me

[alpine dove]

shhhhh hello neighbor appeared in unity before

[quaint kelp]

it alpha

in*

[tropic stream]

WHEN???

[quaint kelp]

alpha itch io

[alpine dove]

bendy and the ink machine

[tropic stream]

:/

[quaint kelp]

people keep stiring people away from what im doing and i dont get it

[tropic stream]

just try and ignore them

[crimson yacht]

guh??????????????

[quaint kelp]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aZY8Npzza0ZRKeQ1rO7pSvHKK2LxhCJs/view?usp=sharing try this fresh install

[tropic stream]

alr

[quaint kelp]

wipe the game of old

[tropic stream]

hasent worked either

[quaint kelp]

yea i run in the same thing with demo

it made logs though

so ill usem

test another game until i get it worked on

[quaint kelp]

example of the log file. since this is what it showed for me

[tropic stream]

this is what chatgpt said

[quaint kelp]

dont use the windows one because it suppose to run from game dir

hang on

i know what its doing

version_real.dll when its from the windows dir but renamed to that. will read the windows one and forward it to the proxy

nevermind it didnt work

ill check later

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-meme-smirk-tony-stark-iron-man-gif-11885783305913878074

[quaint kelp]

[15:10:51.874][WARN] Proxy: refusing to load ourselves (C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hello Neighbor Demo\HelloNeighbour\Binaries\Win64\version.dll)

@tropic stream im fixing it bud

[tropic stream]

i got a log

[alpine dove]

what do you think yall coulda had made with 113k worth of claude in a month

[quaint kelp]

oh geez

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[quaint kelp]

wait 4 people?

[alpine dove]

with that money you coulda hired more real people 💔

[quaint kelp]

true

[crimson yacht]

The fact that this is not seen as embarrassing and incredibly stupid is very sad

[rose oasis]

my own claude

[quaint kelp]

time to make an nvidia ai with toolkit

[rose oasis]

like fucking seriously

[quaint kelp]

jk

[alpine dove]

If anyone had that kinda money here i’d hope they’d spend it on hiring a real coder instead of claude 💔

[rose oasis]

buy a bunch of high VRAM GPUs + develop training software and datasets

or just run GLM 5.1

like

it's really good lol

[quaint kelp]

really?

i thought qwen had potential but its slow dev

has anyone tried deepseek

[rose oasis]

hemry built the Remix VR mod with GLM 5.1 afaik

qwen is a different model

and deepseek kinda sucks

[quaint kelp]

ah

time to switch to glm

lmao

problem is they all code different so a fresh project would be ideal

just have them all code in asm it would probably save time

or basic

[muted sun]

what?

[alpine dove]

here’s the full post

[quaint kelp]

everything is using c++. but other code like .asm or .bas is forgotten

[alpine dove]

@rose oasis does anything he’s saying sound realistic?

[muted sun]

doing a project of this scale in assembly is just asking for trouble
gotta be honest

[rose oasis]

he should have used AI to write for him because i can barely read it

basically, he's a dumbass lol

[muted sun]

just use c++

or rust if your feeling really special

[quaint kelp]

is there anything after c++?

[crimson yacht]

[rose oasis]

unless you have like 200 employees using it all at once, 24/7, doing literally nothing else... it should not be that expensive

[muted sun]

there's c++ standards that release every so often
it isn't like set in stone or anything

[quaint kelp]

you would think we wouldve had tech advancement past it though

c++ is old just like C

[muted sun]

old doesn't mean bad in this case

just more mature

and more likely to support wider use cases

[quaint kelp]

why not make something better for security measures

[alpine dove]

Such money wasted lmao, his febuary bill was 50k 💔

[quaint kelp]

something new

[muted sun]

there's rust

[solemn epoch]

Many C++ features are not even used by people yet, like "return might be these types" etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailing_return_type

Didn't even know how it was called

[quaint kelp]

no'one uses F sharp

can a person re engineer c++

[rose oasis]

for things like coding languages, slow progress is much better than fast

[muted sun]

it's one of those things that C++ is mature enough to where vast majority of the things you'd want to do someone else has already done before

[solemn epoch]

This and C++ are fundamentally different tools designed for different priorities

Can't see your point

[quaint kelp]

yes but some knowledge can have backdoors and those doors need to stay shut

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-gif-11323896251305000178

[muted sun]

I mean feel free to use assembly

but I'm warning you
you will run into issues

[quaint kelp]

yes im aware.

[solemn epoch]

You don't use Assembly to code such complex programs. It was never used like that

You insert some assembly in the existing C code for very specific low level purposes

[muted sun]

that too

like my halo compat mod has some assembly stuff in it for patching

[rose oasis]

assembly was used for writing programs and games... in the 70s-90s mainly. don't wanna use it for that now. it's also incredibly difficult to maintain and debug compared to a normal coding language

additionally, LLMs kinda suck at it compared to normal coding languages

rollercoaster tycoon is one of the best examples of a game written pretty much entirely in assembly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon_(video_game)#Development

-# wouldn't recommend it

[muted sun]

yeah

devs back then were built different

[rose oasis]

😆 for sure

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/kingsquest-king-graham-bard-plants-gif-20725847

[solemn epoch]

RollerCoaster Tycoon is one of a kind

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-city-snes-gif-24387523

[solemn epoch]

It's a testament to their unmatched sheer skill

[rose oasis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_programmed_in_assembly_language

-# i'm tired

[quaint kelp]

about old asm software and games. are those reverse engineer-able so we can use them on later any os?

say if i wanted an old windows 3.1 solitare game

for example

or maybe an old screensaver that does not run on modern systems

claude 4.7 is in gaslight mode for me rn

stops working while working

@tropic stream i wont be able to get to it now., spent too much

[vagrant kernel]

Doing more PS1 RTX (through recompilations though)

[quaint kelp]

is this a port?

[vagrant kernel]

Ye

https://github.com/phoboslab/wipeout-rewrite

[quaint kelp]

cool

[vagrant kernel]

I hope I can make it look good and upload it

[quaint kelp]

i need to figure out how to do that

lol

[vagrant kernel]

Hope on this one I don't try to go too far and get burned out when stuff starts not working

I def need RTX Remix API lights and emissives

[quaint kelp]

see whats left on that project. seems it hasnt been touched in a bit

[quaint kelp]

https://github.com/phoboslab/wipeout-rewrite/pull/162

[vagrant kernel]

I'm just doing graffix

[quaint kelp]

ok just wondering if the bug will cause a vertex explosion

https://github.com/wh1t3lord/recvx2c

https://tenor.com/view/the-walking-dead-zombies-walking-creepy-gory-gif-10634473

[vagrant kernel]

Doesn't seem like thats in a playable state yet sadly

[quaint kelp]

yea not yet

2 years and nothing in this

needs some work

[vagrant kernel]

There are fully done recompilations that didn't even get a playable version yet

Why did no one make an MDK or Trespasser recompilation

[quaint kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnBe6li6Tzk this would be good if it didnt get taken down

[alpine dove]

Lol guys! 😃🤣

[sharp seal]

She'll find three smoking guns at chipotle

[rose oasis]

https://kim2091.github.io/vapourkit-site/

made a website using Claude Opus 4.7

also made documentation for vapourkit: https://kim2091.github.io/vapourkit-site/introduction/

had it spawn uh... i think it was 8 Opus subagents to research segments of the program in depth and write the docs. i read through it all and it is accurate

[rose oasis]

did everyone die or somethin

[dull swallow]

Were still here

[rose oasis]

https://github.com/dxx-rebirth/dxx-rebirth

i think i'm gonna try descent remix

[muted sun]

what?

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-reaction-gif-27157580

[rose oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/cash-money-eating-nomnom-hamsternomnom-gif-1111125702196750674

[crimson yacht]

Bribing the hamster was the correct choice IMO, be careful when making that sketchy deal with the racoon, hes not to be trusted

[muted sun]

opus 4.7 is quirky lol

[rose oasis]

all of the opus 4.7 options on other services seem incredibly cursed

on claude max it's never said anything like that lol

[naive kindle]

The’re easter eggs

/** Easter-egg loading messages, used ~1 in {@link FUN_WORKING_MESSAGE_RATE} picks. */
const funWorkingMessages = [
// Generic
localize('chat.working.fun.1', "Bribing the hamster"),
localize('chat.working.fun.2', "Reticulating splines"),
localize('chat.working.fun.3', "Untangling the spaghetti"),

// Halo
localize('chat.working.fun.halo.1', "Activating Cortana"),

// Minecraft
localize('chat.working.fun.minecraft.1', "Mining diamonds"),

// Microsoft
localize('chat.working.fun.ms.1', "Summoning Clippy"),

];

[muted sun]

interesting lol

[pine coral]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-think-be-clever-be-smart-gif-10617231

[rose oasis]

idk why but claude shits itself whenever it comes to working on FNV

[muted sun]

relatable

[pine coral]

I too shit myself when working on beth games. they just have that effect.

[rose oasis]

[pine coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-smooth-criminal-bug-glitch-funny-gif-4727836

Who would not shit themselves riddle me that?

Imagine the levels of pants destruction incurred by newly onboarded devs at Bethesda. Changes a single line of code and the whole codebase implodes

[rose oasis]

🤭 yeah...

[pine coral]

If you're not already doing it I'd load it up with all the docs you can find though on NVSE, FNV, and as much detail of your project in particular every single chat. Been having a lot of success that way with MW rather then letting it just go with just web search and guess work which seems to result in it going off the rails sooner then later.besides steering stuff I always make new agents read My project quick start which is kept up to date with the state of the project, Known issues , todo's and completed tasks at all times.

[naive kindle]

I started running some local models to check how they would do with RE and code changes, and looking through their reasoning msg I swear I sometimes see the desperation intensifying. They probably reach a point where a normal human would say ‘no idea bud, it doesn’t make sense anymore’ but the model needs to give a confident answer. I guess nobody would pay the sub anymore if the model said: I don’t know, this train of thought leads nowhere.

[pine coral]

I'd almost rather they let it say something is too hard

[naive kindle]

Yes

[rose oasis]

unlike (most) humans, models don't really know when real knowledge ends and hallucinated information begins

the small local models are especially bad with it

[brave oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/sub-rosa-gif-27492556

i wish someone would do sub rosa

[vagrant kernel]

Integrating RTX Remix API lights can still be such a pain. Wipeout has been already working well forever but just getting API lights in there is now taking an eternity

Doesn't help that GPT seems to have gotten lobotomized

Doing some Claude ass "the answer was in the cfg all along" shit now

[solemn epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/lobotomy-luxerp-gif-26265908

[bright ermine]

who lobotomized gpt 5.4

[vagrant kernel]

Can the Chinese not already do a "we made a better model than anyone, here it is" moment

[bright ermine]

pls

even then, the AI tooling on copilot is great, but they rarely adopt those models 🙁

i dont wanna use kiro because its methodology sucks

[quaint kelp]

yay please

[vagrant kernel]

Getting Wipeout to path trace: 20 mins
Getting API lights into Wipeout: 9999999999999999999 hours

Bro there is still stuff to do

Wonder if this counted as a request

[crimson yacht]

ive been promised chinese saviors MANY TIMES in MANY INDUSTRIES and I have YET to feel the effect of any of them

[jovial totem]

is this peak?

[vagrant kernel]

That's indeed peak

[jovial totem]

I can't believe it took 20 mins to get here

[vagrant kernel]

Hope it doesn't take much longer to improve

I finally got fucking lights in Wipeout

This took a hundred years

I thought it'd be like 30 mins max

[jovial totem]

i'm fighting with nfs2se more than a month and I only arrived to the main menu

[vagrant kernel]

Damn, I was thinking of trying to get that working

Maybe I should stay clear

[jovial totem]

i have a perfectly working version of the game with dx9

[quaint kelp]

https://chat.z.ai/ found a only glm ai site

[quaint kelp]

hmm it keeps saying it cant read the github and yet it writes code lol

autoclaw seems better for credit use or am i wrong

[vagrant kernel]

cliff

[rose oasis]

bweh

[muted sun]

https://tenor.com/view/cliff-burton-metallica-burton-metallicacliffburton-gif-11569608

[rose oasis]

considering trying to get just cause 3 working

but i shouldn't... the future only holds pain and suffering if that project happens

hmmm

[muted sun]

there's a luma mod for it already, no?

[rose oasis]

there is

[quaint kelp]

doing something but now i wait

[golden raven]

Woah

Code Veronica on PC

[vagrant kernel]

The hell is bro finding

Just trying to reduce draw calls for Wipeout and my man is like "need to make sure aurora borealis is off"

[sharp seal]

https://tenor.com/view/aurora-borealis-steamed-hams-the-simpsons-simpsons-super-intendent-chalmers-gif-26950836

[alpine dove]

we’re not getting to ai superintelligence anytime soon

[golden raven]

thingy

[gloomy ginkgo]

Is it just me or is antigravity completely unusable? If I try using opus it will error out in like 10 seconds saying traffic is too high. If I try Gemini, it will work for 15-20 mins before getting that same error..I tried this at all hours of the day, even 2 in the morning.

[crimson yacht]

never try use claude on antigravity during a weekday, its impossible

[golden raven]

https://fxtwitter.com/tmuxvim/status/2055275374905307216

tmuxvim (@tmuxvim)

I put a prompt injection into my LinkedIn bio and recruiters are messaging me in Old English and calling me Lord.

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[ember sundial]

Should I use cursor?

Or copilot

[rose oasis]

copilot

[ember sundial]

kk

[solemn epoch]

[simple orchid]

Yessss completely useless same thing here

[vagrant kernel]

P
E
A
K

[jovial totem]

ready to deliver

[crimson yacht]

remixers say this is peak emoji when

[bright ermine]

we getting a 2nd minecraft remix project

[dull swallow]

A third sometime in the fufure

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/double-your-villains-double-your-fun-dr-robotnik-gerald-robotnik-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-two-villains-twice-the-fun-gif-13411091618471820033

[solemn epoch]

I'm yet to use vibecoding tools for Remix. This is better

Vulkan renderer in Minecraft PE 0.6.1

||meaning native RT||

Can't wait to run it on Samsung S25 once it's up and running lol

[bright ermine]

sweet, i didnt know source code for old pocket edition was out there

[solemn epoch]

🤫

[golden raven]

Oh shit. You got much further than me

@sharp seal

[jovial totem]

with the same approach nfs3 is working too

@golden raven

[golden raven]

What approach

[jovial totem]

Recompiled NFS from a github someone shared on this channel
-> Win32 shim + SDL window/input/audio
-> original game renderer calls Glide/3Dfx
-> Glide calls are intercepted
-> DX9 backend converts them to real D3D9 drawcalls
-> RTX Remix hooks d3d9.dll

[solemn epoch]

that's how sky looked in old PE

It honestly surprises me how little time it took, the game is practically there

some missing pieces like fog, particles, viewmodel and it's done

[muted sun]

damn

does having the source code really make it that easy?

[solemn epoch]

Yeah, it helps that it is fixed function OpenGL ES

really simple stuff

[vital dew]

Do we have FO3 working or just FNV and FO4?

Recently got back into fallout 3 gulp

[rose oasis]

FO3 should work via TTW for FNV

[quaint kelp]

fixing the port im working on with anti pirate and such wont read so where its hashed based on what your actual copy of the game is

could make it pc based to like bf6 and other games

after i do all this the port should be ready

but gotta wait again

[vagrant kernel]

When the AI says something is going to take 5-6 weeks of work and I say "ok, understood, begin the work and don't stop until it's done"

[alpine dove]

u got PE working natively on pc?

[solemn epoch]

You can build it for Windows

You can even build it for Web

[alpine dove]

it runs on vulkan or java?

idk what they mean by java beta

and u can swap renderers on the fly?

[solemn epoch]

PE runs on C++

[vagrant kernel]

Web version of RTX Remix when

[solemn epoch]

It's a repo that is being maintained by fans, they added some graphical features from Java

I'm adding Vulkan (GPT 5.5 is)

[alpine dove]

how much money r u spending

[solemn epoch]

From a triangle to the functional game it took 4% of Codex $100 weekly limit

GPT 5.5 High

[alpine dove]

then how did those mfs spend 100k in one month on claude

[solemn epoch]

But then again MCPE 0.6.1 isn't rendering much, it's all fixed function and doesn't require going out of your way to make it render in Vulkan

Someone could make it render in DX9 instead for Remix

[tropic stream]

would prob crash your browser and eat your ram

would need 2000 optimisations

[candid mirage]

Claude the only one I see do these stupidic time estimates which make no sense

[crimson yacht]

Actually I guess dont try to use it ever. Just doesnt function.

[gloomy ginkgo]

good to know.. well my 4080 legion desktop decided to stop booting up on me last night, just weeks after my 2 year warranty ended so guess thats it for me until I get a job 😩

[crimson yacht]

when the camera works but its in the wrong position and rotation and the stupid clanker cant fix it is just the worse

And now it thinks it needs to modify the runtime

[vagrant kernel]

Random "welcome back", I wasn't gone dude

Hope to get a random "go to bed" some day

[crimson yacht]

Team Fortress, 2 screenshots in RTX Remix

[ember sundial]

Wow

Tf2...

[crimson yacht]

No, it's the character called Team Fortress, and I posted 2 screenshots

[ember sundial]

Wow

I see...

[crimson yacht]

I need a counter that will count every time gemini says "Ive made a MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH"" and then literally breaks everything and gets nowhere

Yeah I just felt like nothing changed
It was my feelings

[quaint kelp]

you mean deletes system32

or your project. an ai did that one to me

[dull swallow]

Wonder why anyone hasn't used vibe coding to fix team fortress 2

[crimson yacht]

Team Fortress 2 Hard

https://tenor.com/view/gol-d-roger-meme-funny-one-piece-writing-gif-5206510315195397953

[dull swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291185557789343744/1505390129466835065/Desktop_2026.05.16_-_21.59.53.05.mp4?ex=6a0a734f&is=6a0921cf&hm=818a4a1a645435da456eacf888a6248af3cc7996048ec70faf4243efb79acab1&

This is the ONLY reason wede wanna do roblox past 2019 rtx

[golden raven]

I'm afraid these particle effects are gonna look booty with remix

Remix is just... really bad with sprite particles for whatever reason

[dull swallow]

Yeahh

They look good enough in game anyways

[golden raven]

I don't have a screenshot right now but rogue trooper makes heavy use of particles like huge sheets of rolling dust etc. They look really good I'm vanilla but remix really fucks them up bad.

[dull swallow]

Damn

This is pretty damn cool lookin tho

[golden raven]

Yeesh

[exotic magnet]

I only want Roblox past 2019 in general for Digital Swirl based Sonic fangames :)

[quaint kelp]

any spooky games working?

oops sorry i pinged and didnt read

so far the legal side works

it reads the actual disc. security enabled for those with bad copies

[quaint kelp]

https://github.com/Murray2k6/Resident-Evil-Code-Veronica-X-PC-Port

https://discordapp.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1505616137151316018

[vagrant kernel]

Fully rebuilt Trespasser from source with a native DX9 renderer only to end up with the same terrain issues

Only now they are also there in the non RTX version

[quaint kelp]

what issue

[vagrant kernel]

What were they doing with this terrain back in 1998

Isn't obvious from the pic

[quaint kelp]

i think rendering was different back then

wasnt true 3d

basically was billboards

you can see if it can rip the assets and look at them first

will take vibe tools

[golden raven]

I should do sh2

For traggey

It's been a while since I've seen him here

[pine coral]

Do it.

He posted 2 days ago int the SH2 channel btw.

[quaint kelp]

looks like they added coding behind a sub wall

[candid mirage]

3 weeks late to the party, its only for the $100 tier and up

[golden raven]

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

fucking stuoid

[quaint kelp]

What is

Ai can be that

[ember sundial]

too lazy to figure out howto vibe code

[bright ermine]

i worked on 2 different vers of tf2 years ago

imo tf2 really doesnt need the remix treatment

[dull swallow]

Shrug

[sharp seal]

Half life alyx

Just in time for the VR mod

[bright ermine]

#1133959564824424458 message
https://github.com/sambow23/TF2RTX-Stuff

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1133959564824424458/1221921600211910696/image.png?ex=6a0ccaab&is=6a0b792b&hm=f669dfc79ca00ca91c84849d8ec273f6d4852b30c5166ff678ac027df54b4919&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1728&height=972

[dull swallow]

Does it work on modern tf2?

[bright ermine]

it broke with the x64 update a long while ago

can be fixed but im not working on it anymore

[dull swallow]

Fair nuff

[bright ermine]

there is a port of the 2007 ver of the game that probably still works

its one of the methods in the github readme

[candid mirage]

👀 Doing some crafty transparent overlaying of a GL UI onto the Remix output. Interceptting the UI draw programs, then sitting it over Remix.

[dull swallow]

What opengl version is this game?

[candid mirage]

3.3

[dull swallow]

Damn

[rose oasis]

you guys got any ideas for random shit i can leave claude doing while i work on other things?

[sharp seal]

random? Like what

[rose oasis]

projects i guess

[sharp seal]

battlefield 2 compatibility??

[muted sun]

getting it to mess around with tracy could be interesting

[sharp seal]

Or is it a feature project 🤔 I'd say that we got pretty much everything covered. With the recent IES feature working somewhat

[sharp seal]

Xoxor messed with it but it's not really playable

[rose oasis]

tracy is a profiler

[rose oasis]

i could

[muted sun]

yeah lol

[fallow helm]

As far as random projects, original DS emulation perhaps, if you were interested. It's semi-functional, but still needs a good bit of work.

[rose oasis]

if you can give me a rundown of what needs to be done, i can leave claude to work on it

i have access to 4.7 opus 1M. i just don't want my subscription to go to waste

[muted sun]

or hear me out

you how cr nulled out the static meshes in portal 2 and just handled them via replacements

a semi automated framework for that would be incredible

[fallow helm]

There's still quite a bit. Off the top of my head, there is the following:

Separating cameras and 3-D draws to their proper screens
Proper alpha testing and alpha blending in most games (only works for a few at the moment)
Proper UI handling
Fixing culling (already partially solved, but still a lot of missing tris)
Stabilizing geometry hashes
Figuring out why most games have proper camera matrices and a stubborn few do not (based on limited testing)
Performance optimization
Polygon wobble elimination (might also help with stabilizing geo hashes)

I'll go ahead and clean up the repo and get it uploaded then invite you to it shortly. In theory, it should work (to varying extents) with just about any game that has 3-D draws.

[vital dew]

Might also be useful poking around in Battlefield Vietnam, its slightly more stable but may unearth some useful tactics for BF2

[sharp seal]

I feel as though the refractor 2 engine is more extensive since it'll allow project reality to work in some form.

my ultimate goal for any personal project would be to figure out the frostbite 1 or 2 engine with VRET.

Also that I have an interest in understanding that engine in particular (rendering wise)

[alpine dove]

brother what is this 💔

[dull swallow]

Road blox

[golden raven]

Started new project

[woven zealot]

https://github.com/nvpro-samples/vk_lod_clusters with mega geometry would be 🤤

[rose oasis]

[pine coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-huang-nervous-sweating-gif-10630254440065812489

[woven zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[bright ermine]

i wonder if VRET can help me convert google earth VR from GL to vulkan, it has a really nasty vram leak issue that prevents me from playing it for long sessions

ngl one of the best VR apps for anyone imo

the street view part is so peak

[sharp seal]

Remixing (Google) Earth would be so peak

[bright ermine]

i feel like it would be a tad too taxing and the 3D map geo is not really high fidelity enough to justify it

i just wanna use street view for more than 2 hours

i get lost in doing virtual sightseeing

[quaint kelp]

Can you just use Microsoft flight simulator. It reads Google map I believe

[rare needle]

Yeeeah, it can be very based

I wonder if one can squish gaussian splatting onto Streetview...

Results would probably be ass 7 times out of 10

But in those 3 times...

[bright ermine]

i wonder if google plans to start doing that for their updated street views, wouldnt be surprised

obviously they'd do popular/big cities first and then eventually roll it out over years

[bright ermine]

uses bing unless you mod it, horrible

[fathom oyster]

A random project I’m working on.

[rich jewel]

Forza 6 looking good

[vagrant kernel]

Whats that

[fathom oyster]

Sega Model 3 Emulator (Supermodel) d3d9 render.

[vagrant kernel]

Holy shit

I've been dreaming of doing Daytona USA RTX somehow

Was there a Model 3 VirtuaCop as well?

[alpine dove]

whats the sega model 3 emulator?

[fathom oyster]

If you don’t know what this is, you’re too young, kid.😜

[alpine dove]

this in remix?

[vagrant kernel]

Are hashes stable?

I feel like the older I go with my RTX games the more messy the polygons become

Wipeout I have to mod with RTX Remix API because the hashes are just all over the place

[fathom oyster]

Very Stable

But UI not work...

[solemn epoch]

Minecraft PE 0.6.1 Vulkan backend is almost there, all the rendering paths are there including animated textures. Still not happy with the fog though and performance is noticeably worse than in OpenGL

[rose oasis]

[solemn epoch]

It's been really smooth and problem-free so far. The only real issue that I've had so far is alpha textures flickering that took some time and specific explanation as to what was the problem for GPT to fix

[rose oasis]

tell it to rewrite rivatuner to report higher FPS than it actually is

then you're set

[solemn epoch]

The problem was that blocks that use alpha are the only blocks that you are able to see both from inside and outside, meaning you can see the backfaces through the leaves for example

The backfaces were always rendering even though they should be culled, causing Z fighting with the front faces

just goes to say that AI can go a long way if you can explain what exactly is happening

[rose oasis]

this is why i don't recommend people try this unless they have knowledge of rendering already

[solemn epoch]

understanding at least some concepts is needed for sure

When it comes to graphics programming it is especially important, because the AI has no way of knowing what is going on without your input

[dull swallow]

Hello everyone

[vagrant kernel]

Ah yes, the other old game issue

[solemn epoch]

The plan is to improve Vulkan performance and point it at the Quake 2 RTX repo and say "replicate the pathtracer. make no mistakes"

[golden raven]

Bro is so happy

[solemn epoch]

Claude experiencing the "remixers will say peak" moment

[crimson yacht]

this pisses me off more than the clanker being useless and I dont know why

I just hate it when it does that

[solemn epoch]

yeah like just stfu brother

[crimson yacht]

Like bro, we both know youre not real, you cant get excited OR disappointed, so stop pretending you can be either and just do what I tell you to do

This is also how I treat customer service

[solemn epoch]

[golden raven]

Okay. Okay.

[solemn epoch]

signs of pathtracing spotted

peak neuron activation

[crimson yacht]

REMIXERS say this is PEAK
We really need an emoji for this

[golden raven]

mmmm

Everything bunched at the center

[quaint kelp]

Stunts 4D remixed when

[quaint kelp]

Nfs2?

[golden raven]

ja

[quaint kelp]

Have nfs3 hot pursuit but not 2

Maybe a good reverse engineer will do

[golden raven]

U2

Not 2'

[quaint kelp]

Ah

Can a ai reverse engineer itself

[golden raven]

Crouds are there now. Wow. They're not rigged but they're there.

[rose oasis]

what are you doing

[golden raven]

The original method forced shader model 0

So the crowds were gone

The game disabled a bunch of features

So now I'm doing a proper FF port of the normal mode

[rose oasis]

oh nice

🤞

i hope the culling patch still works properly in this one

[golden raven]

I miiight make a new one

Well the old one isn't really that bad

Then other things like brake lights and particle lights for nitros and original color correction

There's a lot that can be done here

[rose oasis]

tbh, culling patches are much harder in some ways than an FFP conversion. would not recommend redoing it unless you really have to. at the very least just use the existing addresses as a start point to improve it

[golden raven]

Yeah, fair

[muted sun]

bruh

[rose oasis]

😢 u took all my edits

[golden raven]

kek

[solemn epoch]

That's probably an unlucky anecdotal experience. Culling is an algorithm, a function, that can usually be patched in the binary. The devs specifically coded this functionality, meaning it could be altered

In Painkiller you do a JMP instead of JZ and frustum culling is gone

[vagrant kernel]

Turning culling off is simple but often kills performance

Getting a good performant implementation is where the pain begins

[golden raven]

Remix REALLY needs to do something about high drawcall counts

Like

Even to this day, the whole system is best optimized for portal

[vagrant kernel]

Even old ass games I've disabled culling on immediately go down to like 25fps

[solemn epoch]

yeah that's why we are getting rid of all the static geometry making it only render in Remix

[rose oasis]

yeahhhhhh no

i've done it in 3 games now and all took more time and effort than the FFP conversions 😭

at least to have a good anti cull patch that doesn't destroy performance

the gta 3 patch is probably the best i'll ever manage lol. it's pretty much perfect

[solemn epoch]

This is odd because like I said culling is something the developer specifically coded. The bytes are there, you just need to figure them out. Whereas an FFP conversion is something peculiar to say the least

Perhaps you were looking in the wrong binary

[rose oasis]

the problem is usually identifying those patterns, and a lot of older games use some cursed methods

barnyard for example is a nightmare. if you disable culling in one part... it will actually hide all geometry close to the player. if you try to patch both parts, it will break all game scripts

xoxor had done a partial patch which fixed most culling (not all), then i later fixed game scripts. it still behaves weirdly

[solemn epoch]

Painkiller has several for different purposes, but the rendering is mostly happening in Engine.dll

Not that much going on in the .exe itself

[muted sun]

halo has a multi layer culling system which needed like 8 different patches to get everything stable lol
patching out the culling can be such a pita

[rose oasis]

[solemn epoch]

Yeah Painkiller is the same. We have Frustum, Portals, Antiportals

[golden raven]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-dramatic-chell-chell-gif-25525994

[solemn epoch]

You can delete the portals/antiportals in Maya/3DSMax/Blender

[golden raven]

What?

[rose oasis]

[solemn epoch]

Frustum is binary patched

[golden raven]

Be nice to orphans

[solemn epoch]

This should be similar to most games tbh

Frustum is not enough, a lot of stuff you don't actually see is still being rendered

For that you need Portals (to only render stuff that you can see through the door/window for example) and Antiportals

[golden raven]

I still want to know if there's a rt/pt friendly culling solution out there

[solemn epoch]

Let's say there's a giant column in the middle of the room. You don't want to render anything behind it. That's why you put Antiportal inside it

there are smarter techniques today ofc without the need of putting the actual geometry with the antiportal_ flag on the level

[solemn epoch]

AABB

[golden raven]

Hmmmm

[rose oasis]

-# AABBAA

[golden raven]

Dancing queen

[solemn epoch]

Basically 6 frustum planes around you

[golden raven]

The hit song

[solemn epoch]

Following you

So that you're always in that box

[rose oasis]

that's kinda creepy

[solemn epoch]

we use it

Have been for a while at least. it's probably not that relevant anymore considering that we are switching to the Remix only static geo

[golden raven]

Funny how Polish is, for once in his life being so serious and everyone else is just saying shit

[solemn epoch]

[rose oasis]

idtech uses a similar system. drove me insane trying to patch it

2 months later and it still doesn't work btw

too complex

much pain

[rose oasis]

when i'm up for too long this happens

-# sorry

[solemn epoch]

What idtech is this? Chances are they are still using similar techniques from idtech4

I would ask AI to look over idtech4 code

[muted sun]

how well does switching over to remix for static geo work?
I really want to try it for Halo CE but I'm kinda overwhelmed with how much work it would be lol

[rose oasis]

wolfenstein 2009. and it is idtech 4. however they heavily modified the culling system. no amount of references from other open source idtech games helped

[rose oasis]

if i may, what's the benefit of doing this anyway?

[muted sun]

performance

[solemn epoch]

Painkiller suffers from heavy CPU bottlenecks so in our case the performance is quadrupled in some cases

[muted sun]

damn

[rose oasis]

hm

how would one do this 😢

[vagrant kernel]

RTX Remix should just do that on its own imo

[rose oasis]

hmmmm

good idea

i'll look into it

[solemn epoch]

Export the level into Blender/Maya and make it a one giant replacement mesh

Remix has no trouble rendering very complex geometry

And disable the rendering in the engine

[rose oasis]

hrm

i'm wondering if this would allow FNV to run well with culling fully disabled

a custom culling solution won't work for that game really

[muted sun]

yeah I genuinely think it's the only way to get new vegas's performance in check lol

[rose oasis]

well. i'm gonna see if i can automate it at least partially on remix's side. it'd help a lot of games

[muted sun]

if you do static geo on the remix side I wonder if you could combine that with culling on the remix side...

[golden raven]

It is possible. I've tried up to 50 mil triangles and it runs mostly well.

[solemn epoch]

You have to be careful with differentiating the static geo and everything else. We have the means of doing that

Might not be that trivial for other games

[rose oasis]

yeah that was my immediate concern

[golden raven]

Maybe one day I'll re NFS underground 2 and make a map importer

Ooh the vram usage though

[solemn epoch]

Yes, this should be used
Remix has virtually no limits on geometry complexity

[golden raven]

Man

[golden raven]

Fine with small linear levels but the whole open world is way too large.

[solemn epoch]

That too...

We haven't had any culling solution at all for quite some time and it was working mostly fine.
We were rendering the whole level every frame

It was kinda bad but it never dropped below 30FPS CPU

[golden raven]

Okay I'm going to go to bed while I'm ahead of myself and not patch anything else.

Don't want to fall into another rabbithole

Just goon and sleep. Ez day.

[solemn epoch]

[vagrant kernel]

I still think that UE3 compatibility could be worked on further

I tried getting Outlast to be more compatible but I think the tracer doesn't output something the AI can work with because nothing ever changed no matter how much I tried

It's like tracing on the wrong path or something

[solemn epoch]

Honestly I'm not really sure how that would work. Remix cannot access the engine to disable the rendering from the inside

That part you cannot automate

You could probably make it assemble the replacement mesh somehow, but then how would it discern what is static

[vagrant kernel]

It was more of a joke like "why doesn't it just automatically do it"

[rose oasis]

it's not gonna be completely automated. there's no way to do that. but i could try to make it easier

[muted sun]

how much performance would you be giving up if you just did the bsp for older games on the remix side?

[solemn epoch]

UE3 source code is out there, I don't know if anyone made use of it to make it work

some UE3 games have changes specific to them though, if you've looked at UE-Explorer there are a lot of ifdefs just because there's always something different for some games

[muted sun]

-# the ue3 source code is how compatibility was added to that fork in the first place

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, just need to find a way to get that loop of "issue in game" to AI fixing it going somehow

[vagrant kernel]

I hate how when working on old games the software renderer is somehow involved in the HW path

Like fuck off

[quaint kelp]

just replace it

reverse engineer and find the software render

ai can read hex too

[bright ermine]

good luck filtering out dynamic meshes

imo this is best left to manual implementation

perf in p2 rtx's glados introduction 2x'ed when replacing all static level geo with a remix replacement, but source allowed me to turn off all dynamic entities in the first place to make that proper capture

[candid mirage]

Thoughts on Gemini 3.5 anyone? Flash model is out, Pro model is next month. We thinking yea or nay on if it can at least match GPT 5.5's level?

[bright ermine]

pricing is bad

just like every other provider recently, its stupidly expensive

[rose oasis]

i'm just going to try to add some stuff to make it easier, that's all. it's not going to be completely automated or anything

[dull swallow]

looks so much better

[sharp seal]

Roblox?

[dull swallow]

yeah

[sharp seal]

Which version is this?

[dull swallow]

2019

[golden raven]

https://youtu.be/eLP3ag0YpyA

ughhh

[vagrant kernel]

Looks like peak to me

[dull swallow]

ok so now they say there isnt any per object transforms and that its just something else jdfsnjkfdskjnds

fun

[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

idk why everything is so bright

even the debug view is so bright

it might be some ui effect?

like bloom

BUT

buuut

no more of the stupid jittering crap

just geometry flashes and the objects being flat

thanks claud

[golden raven]

ughhhh

[dull swallow]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING US

so we have no per mesh wvp but infinite mesh wvp

[golden raven]

mmm exact numbers?

[dull swallow]

only the roads and buildings are being ran via ff

the terrain (which is the only thing staying still) is still shaders for whatever reason

[rose oasis]

given the way terrain works in roblox, i'd be surprised if that converted to FFP properly

it might have to stay as shaders

[dull swallow]

were gonna js accept that honestly

if it works

dont fix it

still dunno what were gonna do about textures

or why they look like that

prolly something to do with how roblox blends textures

also the random bright stuff

[golden raven]

This is so bad

[rose oasis]

your car is flat

[golden raven]

The bigger issue is that every triangle is a draw

[rose oasis]

most likely. texture blending is one of the biggest pain points in remix right now

[dull swallow]

do yk anything abt why stuff might randomly be bright? is our hunch correct and roblox bloom bleeding thru

[rose oasis]

can you enable debug view and see if anything is emissive

[dull swallow]

nothing is emissive

[rose oasis]

hm

[dull swallow]

maybe

hold on

..? no

[rose oasis]

😔

[dull swallow]

guys remix

[rose oasis]

[golden raven]

STOP CRYING

[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

yay! njfdsjknsfdkjkjn

we keep making it worseee

dont skull emoji us

@rose oasis we lied everything IS emissive

[rose oasis]

yeah that sounds right

it's probably the alpha channel of the textures bugging out and being marked as emissive or something

[dull swallow]

we got it back to this state at least

well,it no longer rotates, but now moves on the x and y axis

[fathom oyster]

Just tell the AI to batch draw all faces that use the same texture into a single draw call. Old games used low poly meshes, so they shouldn’t hit the 65,535 vertex / index limit anyway.

[quaint kelp]

what made it break?

an update?

sorry if i did not read above

[golden raven]

No, that was me being stupid

I was looking at primitive index instead of mesh hash

Because I'm stupid, if you haven't realized that yet.

[golden raven]

ughhhhhhh

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/wax-on-wax-off-mr-miyagi-daniel-larusso-daniel-san-gif-24814730

shiny

[golden raven]

Somehow managed to run out.

[vagrant kernel]

Implemented a feature I always wanted which is a slider to change default roughness. Useful for when you want to just get the sheen off of legacy materials without having to redo them all or give them manual attention

There was always roughness bias but that would change the properties of custom materials as well

[golden raven]

Uhhh

Excuse me, but have you tried the "legacy material parameters"?

[vagrant kernel]

Nah, never saw that

Guess I didn't need to do this then. Whatever it was just one prompt

[candid mirage]

Pretty frustrating when you cant progress a project because the peformance with Remix enabled is 3fps. Vibe coding has its benefits, also has its pitfalls lol

[vagrant kernel]

Is that post disabling culling or just in general?

[candid mirage]

I can load in a world's geometry, millions of verts. Though as soon as I start loading in entities with deformations and animations, FPS goes 30 to 3.

Not a culling issue

Claude and GPT both hit this deadlock of sorts. They've both made their own proxies months apart from each other. Both die performance wise right as soon as I start deformations of any type. Whether its deformations for block geometry, water, or for entities.

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, reproducible stuff like that is a tough nut to crack

Like how a completely newly written DX9 renderer for Trespasser ended up with the same texture issues the main game running through a compatibility proxy had

Though I was able to get it to at least kinda have the right textures now

[muted sun]

nice

should try remix plus if you haven't already :p

[vagrant kernel]

Does that come with better eye adaptation

I still feel we could have a more solid "one size fits all" version of that

[muted sun]

I'm working in that

[vagrant kernel]

The default RTX Remix image is not as good as it could be

[vagrant kernel]

Goat

[muted sun]

all the tonemapping has been redone too

[vagrant kernel]

That's cool

But I think my main issue is with eye adaptation. At least in the games I tried I can't seem to just extend it into one direction, as in "make dark areas slightly brighter". It always shifts the whole spectrum so now bright scenes are overexposed

[muted sun]

exposure is just scenecolor * x

so everything shifts

[candid mirage]

Speaking of textures. Anybody ever run into an issue of multiple planes overlapping one another, each with transparency. Hence causing one plane to take priority over the others, with the remainder pixels just being transparent/see-through world?

[muted sun]

could maybe handle the highlights and shadows differently but my concern with that control with that

[vagrant kernel]

Interestingly CR's HDR implementation sometimes managed to fix the issues I had, even with HDR output disabled

But for some reason when trying it with Dark Souls it just produces a black image

[muted sun]

interesting

maybe the auto exposure isn't running on a rgba16_float buffer?

not sure how his hdr implementation would impact it otherwise

[muted sun]

it probably has to do with the upgrades he was doing with that

feel like it would be a hud thing

[bright ermine]

could be, but there is a reason why i scrapped all of that stuff

[muted sun]

Yeah I haven't attempted to do hdr myself because of how they handle stuff like the hud lol

because they just pass that through iirc

[bright ermine]

yeah i had tried a few ways to isolate rasterized geometry as that's usually the hud, but it would always break something in the process

if i had to do it again, I'd probably do it via some kind of composite layer

but meh I'd rather we get non-vibecoded HDR

[quaint kelp]

glm 4.7 took a hike for me

lol

started speaking in chinese

[vagrant kernel]

Dark Souls HUD is a nightmare so that's probably why there are issues

Every single thing on there is drawn individiually and across multiple full screen render targets

[bright ermine]

if i had a dollar for every japanese pc port being absolutely cursed, I'd be a millionaire

[golden raven]

pls

[dull swallow]

pls is this correct

[rose oasis]

maaaybe. sounds weird

[dull swallow]

it was in fact

wrong

[rose oasis]

[rose oasis]

this is what was happening in empire at war. i had to modify the game's shaders to fix it. the game was generating an alpha layer that was used to blend the textures in the vanilla game, but remix read it as transparency which caused issues

[dull swallow]

everything we do either has no change to the current issue or breaks raytracing this is so eckk

[crimson yacht]

whever its "mathematically" anything just start a new chat, when it starts saying that its over

[dull swallow]

oh...

[crimson yacht]

Ive probably had 50 different "mathematically correct" fixes for SAASRT's camera and they were all complete gibberish nonsense and never worked

[candid mirage]

You mean basically do alpha cutout instead of transparency?

[rose oasis]

try to remove the alpha layer in the original game

[solemn epoch]

The first slice is in.
Enabled the required KHR feature chain for RT in Minecraft

tomorrow gonna make terrain chunks produce BLAS objects and a TLAS that a raygen shader can actually trace.

and maybe then we will be in the "remixers say this is peak" territory

[golden raven]

Why do I bother?

[golden raven]

MY FUCKING GOOOOOD

I HAD BEEN CHASING THIS STUPID FUCKING BUG FOR A BETTER PART OF 12 HOURS

AND THE ISSUE WAS THAT I ACCEDENTALLY TAGGED THE WRONG TEXTURE AS UI

[rose oasis]

😖

[golden raven]

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[rose oasis]

[dull swallow]

imagine this roblox game with rtx

imagine

[rose oasis]

🥺

[golden raven]

If only you were a good reverse engineer

[dull swallow]

ouch

[candid mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/teste-19--k01KS41HN1DR6YBEYEZHT3TKV6X

[golden raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1169686913804939334.webp?size=128

[dull swallow]

even if im not that was uncalled for

[golden raven]

My apologies

I am very close to fucking throw myself out the window

[candid mirage]

https://klipy.com/gifs/v-a-sly-1--k01KS41PAYPB078GKJRHT8VXRRR

[dull swallow]

cool were back to c0-3 is wvp again

this ai is gettting on our nerves

we started a ne chat and its going in circles again

[rose oasis]

🫂

this is usually a sign that the LLM model just isn't good enough to fix the issue. gotta wait for a new claude or gpt 5.6 or w/e to fix it

either that or you have to fix it yourself. easier said than done ofc

[dull swallow]

bleh

[sharp seal]

Which game?

[dull swallow]

roblox 2019

[rose oasis]

i was gonna work on it but i ran out of time 😔

sorry 🫂

[sharp seal]

I think the AI should be okay with figuring out WVP

[rose oasis]

some games are just extra cursed

i couldn't get WVP in a few games

[dull swallow]

it thinks c0-3 is wvp, then c0-3 isnt wvp, then it is then it isnt then it is then it isnt

while nothing changes and the world looks like this

it might be easier just to skip ff and make roblox just remix friendly shaders entirely

[rose oasis]

yeah

that's what i'd lean toward tbh

or use the API

newer games with more complex shaders are pretty incompatible with FFP conversion

[rose oasis]

what happens if you load up one of the older roblox maps, like from 2008?

[golden raven]

Chat, should I attempt Rogue trooper again?

[dull swallow]

everything moves around

lmkklmsdf yeah screw this

[rose oasis]

🫂

[rose oasis]

ya

[dull swallow]

is remixapi even plausable on 32 bit applications

[rose oasis]

hm

likely not

i forgot this is 32 bit

[golden raven]

Alright then. As soon as I get nfs stable, I'll work with rogue, then come back to nfs for api patches

hopefully remix plus should be stable by then

[rose oasis]

the only thing that should change now vs release is the auto exposure

i don't have time to work on anything else for it

[golden raven]

I was waiting for clouds stuff

[rose oasis]

yeah you can just use the latest actions build

[golden raven]

oh

neat

[rose oasis]

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/26176417123

DLSS is updated automatically now too

[sharp seal]

did you manage to get the crowds back?

Or is it the old nfs2se compatibility

[rose oasis]

he did but they're not animated

[golden raven]

Stole my words

Going to have to fix the bugs first.

[rose oasis]

🐛

[sharp seal]

Nfs ug1 might have the same problem, I wonder if it could be modified to do hw skinning

[golden raven]

This has been a 🥫 🪱

Never attempting a NFS ever again

One's enough

[dull swallow]

You should try nfs carbon

[golden raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1361554673739501609/1506688959844192337/SPEED2_M0yFEHW855.mp4?ex=6a0f2cf0&is=6a0ddb70&hm=ee219dacdf6d8a4086657694501b45085155191479a87c7e0e6289f87db47b1d&

[golden raven]

Yeah bro I'll download from xoxor4d's got and start build.bat

[rose oasis]

the car shadows driving looks really funny tbh

[golden raven]

It's all been fixed

[dull swallow]

You should do it again

[golden raven]

Brb

The window is calling me

[sharp seal]

Why the cars be fucked bro

what did you do

[golden raven]

They fixed now bro

[woven zealot]

Without debug view it looks 😬

[rose oasis]

very impressive that you got it that far. wow

what are the issues in the normal view?

[bright ermine]

yeah was about to ask, would think meshes look fine if they're good in the albedo debug view

[sharp seal]

This is source engine right?

Or was it the first game only

[bright ermine]

heavily modified, yes

even apex still uses source

[rose oasis]

for some reason i thought you were talking about the Just Cause engine

[golden raven]

It's as source as cod engine

[bright ermine]

i wouldn't even call the TF branch of source anywhere related to valve's

[golden raven]

(not much)

[woven zealot]

Tonemapper, I messed around with the hillaire sky so that is causing the orange, alphas arent working for clouds but they are for trees

[bright ermine]

casually drops a decent looking screenshot

[rose oasis]

[bright ermine]

other than the fallback light being strong

[woven zealot]

They took source and they reused some of it but luckily for me they completely stripped about absolutely everything with the rendering 🙂

[rose oasis]

just need to adjust the fallback light and the auto exposure

[dull swallow]

Were js under the understanding atp that rendering developers past 2009 are all stoopid /jilly

[woven zealot]

Whoever made TF2 rendering was mad

Or brilliant idk

[rose oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-a-mad-genius-aang-avatar-the-last-airbender-you-are-incredibly-smart-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-17170052420843423127

[woven zealot]

Its taken me over a month and hours each day

[sharp seal]

please tell me if the flickering light script made by John Carmack still exists in the game or rather the engine
https://80.lv/articles/valve-reused-the-code-for-flickering-lights-in-alyx-22-years-later

[woven zealot]

Anyway Ive been putting off uni work so ttyl 😔

[bright ermine]

lmao

[golden raven]

I believe there might be some source code online

[woven zealot]

Yup I downloaded it and checked it out but apparently its completely useless 😮‍💨

[crimson yacht]

???? What did they do to antigravity? What the fuck is this? I can't view or edit files in it anymore?? Why?? did Gemini 1 vibecode this??

The desktop shortcut or directly running Antigravity.exe doesn't even work in this updated version, they literally do nothing how is that even possible

Did they ask grok to code this?

[rose oasis]

they're copying cursor who did the same shit

[candid mirage]

Looks like codex imo

[crimson yacht]

Its fucking shameful, whoever did this should be ashamed of themselves like how the plumber of the house im staying at probably is after he "plumbed" this god forsaken house like an orangutang on cocaine

If google is going to stop me from easily viewing or editing the code on my computer then I should have as little faith in their claude clones as they have in me, what a complete screw up the person is who came up with it

[candid mirage]

Just ask Gemini to vibecode a custom theme, so easy /s

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-angry-cat-angry-black-cat-angry-black-cat-gif-8431628872897666919

[candid mirage]

Stop complaining and RAYTRACE Antigravity!!

"Gemini create a Python to DX9 wrapper for Antigravity"

[crimson yacht]

Why si it a video

Discord sucks too whatever

[vagrant kernel]

implemented headlights in Wipeout when going in tunnels rather than just making the tunnels brighter cause it's cooler

[vagrant kernel]

Also enabled for other drivers. Will put in an option to disable and a manual headlight toggle too

Need to replace that ugly ahh MS Paint spray can looking explosion particle effect

[dull swallow]

these games are always so weirdly cool looking with remix despite being so low poly

[vital dew]

How it looked to me on my PSP when I was like 9

Honestly Wipeout RTX is peak

[dull swallow]

this is good news mark, we can be bee

s

[alpine dove]

how's the path tracing perf with such a low poly game?

[dull swallow]

whar

[alpine dove]

how fast does a low poly game run with remix

[dull swallow]

idk i dont have that game

[dull swallow]

mannn, shut yo B-

https://tenor.com/view/shut-your-mouth-gif-18065197

[vagrant kernel]

Who does he think he is

Threaten to unplug the server rack

[dull swallow]

right

its not even that big

its just disabling culling+addint texture based aabb

[dull swallow]

yay seperation of bricks mdfsjkndsfjkjknfdskjndskfjjnsdfkjns

ahahahahahahaha

this fixes so many things, like the noob being the wrong colors too

ehehehhehheheehe

idc how poorly this was done if it is this is what works

vurrently theres still one texture thats still combined tho

working that out

[rose oasis]

yay!

nice progress

[quaint kelp]

Whoa dope

[dull swallow]

This is great tho, because now I can have custom water, custom "grass" etc without everything being transparent or everything being weird

Dunno what to do abt the connected big texture yet, probably just the same thing, but we have 2 days to think on it

[vagrant kernel]

I think Wipeout might be nearing completion from my side and now comes the scary part of putting it on Github. Do I do the fork of the original repo and then upload my files into that?

[golden raven]

Hey @rose oasis I'm getting this very weird bug where all the alpha blended objects jitter violently when they or the camera moves

Any ideas?

Like any particles or transparent neons under the car etc

[rose oasis]

sadly i can't think of anything. that's pretty odd. do the hashes change?

[golden raven]

Same hashes

Everything is stable

[rose oasis]

i noticed that in FNV, particles always face the camera. this has caused flickering issues like what you have there. but it wouldn't explain the neons issue

[golden raven]

particles are always supposed to face the camera, kim

[rose oasis]

well yes...

but the way FNV in particular did it was problematic

[golden raven]

For me, it's everything alpha blended