Vibe Reverse Engineering Toolset

[dull swallow]

Going all in!

[vagrant kernel]

Fixed the DS video in Resolve to look more like what I was seeing. Uploading it again. The original video looked crazy on my iPad, like every darker area was just black

I assume there will be a number of people looking at it so I wanna actually replace it before I get 100 comments saying "Looks dark"

[quaint kelp]

Hey Kim can you re GoldenEye from n64?

[vagrant kernel]

Note to self: If you just wanna quickly re-up a video and get it online as fast as possible, don't use AV1 cause processing will take forever

I was like "cool I saved like 3GB going AV1" but now the saved upload time has been pretty much cancelled out

[solemn epoch]

Also if you want to share it in chat and want phones older than IPhone 15 Pro to play it

[vagrant kernel]

Ok, we're back in business https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL2FaB5b0Hc

[sharp seal]

Were you able to extract the NPR textures and convert them to PBR for remix?

like is there a possibility that VRET could probably let you do this to do AutoPBR

[sharp seal]

Bruh I'm crying 😭😭😭😭

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[vagrant kernel]

Nah, not yet. Gotta focus on more basic stuff first

[gloomy ginkgo]

you still working on Carmageddon too or I'd imagine you'll be focusing on DS primarily now?

[vagrant kernel]

I'll work on both, when I go crazy over one, I switch to the other. But for Dark Souls I wanna focus on it being a comp mod rather than modding assets

[quaint kelp]

project im doin

i didnt try with other games yet

its a dx11 remix build

@vagrant kernel

[vagrant kernel]

Nice. I wish you the best of luck

It's funny it said that after I told it "the source code is on the drive dude, don't go web-researching again"

[quaint kelp]

im curious if gta5 is safe with me now

lmfao

i need to reinstall or someone can test the build in #1490815562711040110

[dull swallow]

Does geometry actually render?

Or

[quaint kelp]

its wip

wip for a reason

check if you dont believe me in the discord link

[crimson yacht]

Okay but does anything render or work at all? The screenshots in the thread seems to be the games video intro or something

[quaint kelp]

im working on that now

im asking people to post the logs from other games so i can build upon it

[crimson yacht]

Presuming that this is even possible, you should just focus on getting one game to work, especially if you're not even at the point where anything renders in remix, I dont see how getting logs from other games can help you at this stage

[quaint kelp]

like i care, kim did it with fallout 4 her way im doing it my way

[crimson yacht]

Good luck

[quaint kelp]

a game isnt just work out of the box, you have to work on it

and i didnt use vibe to do this btw

[dull swallow]

I mean i guess ill try halo but I feel like this'll be per game

[vagrant kernel]

Bro is wild today

[crimson yacht]

Not necessarily related to these tools but if it weren't for this I would have never known how powerful this AI stuff is and can now do goofy stuff like a cinematic bloom option

[vagrant kernel]

@golden raven You still have that NFS2 project? It might work to point the AI at this project: https://github.com/zaps166/NFSIISE

[golden raven]

Hmm

@sharp seal

[crimson yacht]

goofed again

[rose oasis]

added renderdoc support for cursor, copilot, and kiro in my fork: https://github.com/Kim2091/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering/tree/renderdoc

if anyone using those can test it and see how it works, i'd appreciate it

[dull swallow]

Ill test it

What should I prompt copilot

Or wait idek if I have ts subbed js cursor

Guess i cant test it till cursor is back up for the month

[rose oasis]

ask it to launch a game with renderdoc so you can do a capture. then do a capture and have it analyze it. but it would need to be a DX11/12 game

or vulkan

[dull swallow]

Asking it to renderdoc roblox with evilsvary

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1459717603139256546/1490780479861821500/SPOILER_evil.gif

[quaint kelp]

do it

[dull swallow]

No

[quaint kelp]

aw

[dull swallow]

Not tryna get killed via anti cheat

[quaint kelp]

oh yea

D:

damn eac

[dull swallow]

Eac?

Its uh

[quaint kelp]

easy anti cheat

[dull swallow]

Roblox specific anti cheat

Not eac

[quaint kelp]

oh

theres a bypasser somewhere for vrchat

[bright ermine]

i should try this with unityrtx

im also hitting the limits for bepinex so this would definitely be useful

[rose oasis]

it'll def help. make sure you don't have your mod attached though. you want to do the capture without remix or any modifications to the game

then it can analyze it and find things. it helped me sort out the UI passthrough

[bright ermine]

im probably gonna avoid UI passthrough as it's most definitely going to be game specific, every unity game does something different. Though maybe i could apply some heuristics like how remix does with normal dx9

[rose oasis]

i'd at least test it on one game and turn it into a simple framework where the render target could be adjusted per game afterward

[vital dew]

I love when I feel like I'm on the verge of greatness and get hit with the "❌ Error: (rate_limit) Sorry, you've hit a rate limit that restricts the number of Copilot model requests you can make within a specific time period."

Github just dont wanna see a mf shining, they hatin on a playa 💯

[sharp seal]

I have this one installed

[vagrant kernel]

Anyone had it happen where chats disappear when closing VS Code? Really annoying

[golden raven]

Top right. Click on the history button and open the chat

[vagrant kernel]

Here somewhere?

[fallow helm]

Had a lot of usage left towards the end of the week for once, so I took a stab at 3DS emulation compatibility.
Don't know if this is going to go anywhere (still quite broken in a lot of ways), but here's hoping...

Heavy flickering in the video, so just be advised.

[golden raven]

Uhhh

Oh that ain't Claude

[vagrant kernel]

Ye

[sharp seal]

Stuff for nightmares

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-ben-drowned-link-legend-of-zelda-creepypasta-gif-3527576018346862310

Ben drowned

[fallow helm]

He's fiiiiiiiiine. He just... uh... you know.

[dull swallow]

A little ill

[sharp seal]

Link can't handle the ray tracing so he's feeling kinda sick

[fallow helm]

As freaky as he looks now, it was even worse before the texture coordinates were handled correctly. This was before I got Remix working, though.

[vagrant kernel]

Man, I was on such a good track to just bang out a quick comp mod for Dead Rising 2 but then had to restart my PC which erased the VS Code chat history. Started a new session and the AI just kept breaking stuff on that one. Nice job, Microsoft.

[solemn epoch]

Make sure you open Repo folder in VS Code, it won't display chat history otherwise

[fallow helm]

That sucks tremendously. I do wish you the best of luck getting the AI to cooperate. It has been well over a decade since I played Dead Rising 2. Your compatibility mod might just be the spark I need to play it again.

[vagrant kernel]

I did, I even saved the workspace everything was in but chat still disappeared

[vagrant kernel]

Is there a way to give certain commands that the AI always has to adhere to in VS Code? I'd like it to write findings into a file that it keeps updating with timestamps etc so I have a timeline of changes that can be referenced later in case something blows up.

Lol, tried to export all the DS1 knowledge. This looks very official. Wonder how much of it is slopalicous and how much is actually sound

I should just do a GDC talk with this and pretend I came up with it all

"Lesson 3, Staleness is the enemy!"

[atomic steppe]

What are you using in vscode, copilot?

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah

[vagrant kernel]

Wtf I was just git cloning the repo and had to log in

Cause I got rate limited

[vital dew]

What's the best way to make an instructions md file? I want to make one for some stuff I got at work so I dont have to bring copilot up to speed on what im trying to do every time

[queen spear]

As far as I understand (I could be wrong) Shaders in D.A:O are compiled into .fxo format (For both pixel and vertex shaders). And among the official tools, there is no function for creating or changing the functionality of shaders. One modder tried to decompile the eyelash shader but failed.

If it were possible, the post-processing settings could be changed, since D.A:O has terrible post-processing. Like other filters that make the image excessively yellow and dark brown.

[vagrant kernel]

I wish there was less RNG with this. Earlier working on Dead Rising 2 it was a straight shot to a good baseline, camera was found, graphics were path traced, FFP worked for world geometry. Then the chat session got lost right after a big change, and the AI was never able to restore that good state.
Now, on a clean state, it took longer to just integrate the F4 menu and make the game not crash than it took to get the game to the much better state I had earlier.

[rose oasis]

are you using Claude in VS Code

Claude's sub i mean

if so, i do periodic backups of this folder: C:\Users\mystery\.claude
it contains all of the chat info and logs

[vagrant kernel]

I'm using Copilot Pro with the Claude models

[rose oasis]

that'd be C:\Users\mystery\.copilot then

[vagrant kernel]

Maybe once my Copilot requests run out I'll try Claude a bit

[vagrant kernel]

Hmm ,there is just a single file in there and it's just got the current workspace data in it

[rose oasis]

yeah. yours all got lost sadly so that makes sense

i've lost mine a few times now too

[vagrant kernel]

I've now set up a "best practices" for setting up git properly (thought I did it but for some reason stuff was untracked) and I'll use that on every project, as well as a "timeline" feature where every change will be documented. Hope that will help not lose stuff

[solemn epoch]

This is yet to happen to me lol

[vagrant kernel]

But the RNG thing remains, it just sometimes shits itself even when fed the exact same info

[rose oasis]

RNG is literally how AI models work unfortunately. if it's anything like training image/video models, each training session is started using RNG to help randomize variables

iwouldn't doubt it if LLM chats work the same way to some degree

[vagrant kernel]

I guess that means that if a game doesn't work, just try again sometime

[solemn epoch]

Isn't this how humans operate as well

[rose oasis]

i'm static

[solemn epoch]

[vagrant kernel]

I'd argue a human with certain knowledge would be able to get stuff like the window name right

[solemn epoch]

Debatable

[rose oasis]

anyone got hugs to spare btw

i need one

[solemn epoch]

[rose oasis]

💖

[fallow helm]

That is correct. Claude did manage to decompile some of them. I cannot speak to how accurately it did so, but it has been helpful.

[fallow helm]

That may not be a bad idea at to try at some point. It would help the people who can't use or don't want to use Remix for sure.

[vagrant kernel]

Finally back at this point

Time to figure out the zombie clothes

[muted sun]

not sure how useful it is but you can do a capture with nsight and download a few csv files with information to give to a llm

[vagrant kernel]

Anyone think there could be a way for me to implement the following? Manhunt has a stealth indicator that currently just has you as hidden when you are in predefined "shadow" zones. With path tracing obviously the lighting is too granular and shadows don't always line up, which is an issue for the playablility of the game. Anyone have an idea how you could implement actual brightness information ofthe character as like a value or something? Like sampling brightness off his textures? Technically those values have to be present in memory in some way, but it's probably too deep to somehow sample, right?

Would be very cool to have something like this though, also for games like Splinter Cell

[rose oasis]

well, that stealth indicator is tracked by some kind of value. and it should be relatively easy to find using cheat engine tbh. just use a standard differential search (can't remember the proper technical. become seen, search, become hidden, search, etc.

should narrow it down a lot

then give those values to claude if you can't find it from that and it should be able to narrow it down the rest of the way

it'd be a lot easier to find the real value than to approximate it

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, that part is easy. But there'd have to be some way to get the brightness of the path traced model. Hooking that up to the game would likely be no problem. Probably just a simple binary "seen or not".

[rose oasis]

hmmmm

with remix logic you may be able to find a way to track brightness of an area around a mesh?

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, I'll prob just have Claude take a look at the Remix source code to see what's possible

[rose oasis]

if you can mod the base game, you could manually place meshes around the areas where you're not supposed to be visible or w/e, then in remix track if the player mesh is colliding with that mesh and control it through that

convoluted but it'd be reliable

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, at that point I could also just place fake shadow volumes, but I thought maybe there'd be a way to have it be nice and dynamic

[rose oasis]

tbh, dynamic tracking could go really wrong and be inconsistent. i'm not sure it'd work reliably

[vagrant kernel]

Because the base game lighting often doesn't make sense and I really don't wanna go the route of fake lighting. I'd rather have people look at the indicator and play that way then

If anyone has any ideas about how something like this could implemented it would be much appreciated, also considering it might make sense for other stealth games (Thief 3 when)

[rose oasis]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/documentation/components/index.md

some useful info

[atomic steppe]

Since mythos is so good at looking thru binaries to find security flaws I'm gonna guess it's re capabilities will be amazing for this as well

Although I don't think we'll see mythos itself for a bit probably a distilled version first

[rose oasis]

it sounded like they didn't want to release it at all, and hope to just make "safer" alternatives available later

[brisk trench]

Maybe something that works off of remix auto exposure

[fallow helm]

Bit more progress with OOT3D

[muted sun]

bruh

[quaint kelp]

PC port when

Also any luck with Majora's mask

[fallow helm]

Ah, I wish. This is probably going to be the closest thing until the game is fully decompiled, but hopefully this will be a decent springboard to getting other 3DS games working.

The main issue is that the 3DS did use shaders, so just like with PC games that use shaders, each implementation is probably going to have to be game specific.

[quaint kelp]

Could the vibe tools decompile it

[fallow helm]

I haven't tried it yet, but I can't imagine it would be too much more difficult than OOT.

[fallow helm]

That is a good question. I do think that trying to build a PC port rather than an emulator rendering backend would probably be a good bit more difficult though even if you could use the vibe tools to decompile it.

[quaint kelp]

Ye was just wondering cause of retools

[fallow helm]

Could be worth a shot at some point, honestly. Then again, there is already a PC port of the N64 version of the game. Not quite the same, I know.

[quaint kelp]

Livetools can probably be used if you make a dumper

But you need a 100 percent playthrough

Link between world would be fun to do

[fallow helm]

That it would. I think it actually already has some normal maps as well. MGS 3D would also be a great choice, as it too used normal mapping. Gives a bit of a leg up on Remixing the games.

[quaint kelp]

Wasn't Xenoblade on 3ds

[fallow helm]

They did make a port of it! It was New 3DS exclusive, if I recall.

I don't think that would be a blocker in this case, though

[quaint kelp]

I wonder if I can hook up my 3ds to PC and hook up vibe tools

[fallow helm]

You could just legally dump your games and run them through a 3DS emulator. That is what I am doing.
I am not sure what the latest and greatest one is nowadays, though.

[quaint kelp]

True

But bios capture

[vital dew]

Fucking sweet, amazing progress

Is this using https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1491260970411233300 ?

[quaint kelp]

Just remembered my 3ds is a new 3ds xl

[vital dew]

Oh nvm 3DS emulator, is it DX9?

[fallow helm]

This is a custom Remix focused DirectX 9 backend for Citra at the moment, but it could probably be ported to any of the newer emulators as well given how things went.

[vital dew]

I wonder if that could be used for PCSX2

[quaint kelp]

Zelda port to PS3 when jk

[vital dew]

I remember i asked chatgpt about making a FFP DX9 render for PCSX2 and it was like "good luck lil bro"

[fallow helm]

I will say that I was very impressed with how quickly Claude was able to get a functional implementation of DirectX 9 just by studying the OpenGl and Vulkan backends first. I am not saying it was perfect on the first try, and it still needs refinement, but not bad, you know?

[vital dew]

From what i see it looks amazing so far, between the water reflections and that light following you its pretty impressive

Nintendogs RTX when??

[fallow helm]

The lights being cast by fairies and torches is all from Claude figuring out the game's lighting system and attaching lights to them based on how the game sort of did it (apparently the game itself used directional lights for torch lighting?)

[quaint kelp]

Add a log to the lighting?

[fallow helm]

Already done and it has been most helpful to have.

Claude reverse engineered the game's lighting system and claims that is how it was done rather than traditional point lighting. Given that the game was originally on the Nintendo 64, there may be some truth to it.

[vagrant kernel]

So is it more game-based modding? Or is there success loading other games into the emulator?

[fallow helm]

So far I have only tested OOT3D. I do believe it would be possible to get virtually any 3DS game to work, but it would have to be done on a per-game basis. Each game has their own unique shaders, which means it is essentially going to be necessary to make FFP conversions for these games much like you would for a shader based PC game.

[vagrant kernel]

I sometimes still think about how someone got proper a Z-Buffer working for PS1 games working, posted a video and then dipped forever. Imagine path tracing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyOkw2efQPM

PS1 polygons deserve path tracing too.

[golden raven]

https://github.com/milla-jovovich/mempalace

it's... real?

[umbral folio]

Hi, managed to get here, do you have any idea why I can t use the UI?

[quaint kelp]

What is that

[umbral folio]

Not sure how the menu should look but remix comp ffp proxy

[quaint kelp]

Game?

[umbral folio]

Assassin Creed 2

[quaint kelp]

Oh

https://github.com/Kim2091/Vibe-Reverse-Engineering/tree/renderdoc try this

[vagrant kernel]

Just tell the AI you can't and it'll try to fix it

[umbral folio]

Help me with this, I don t know how to use the agent from this repo, I just ran the build.bat from rtx-comp-proxy and replaced the d3d9.dll in the game folder

I cloned the repo, but I didn t used any AI agent locally

[umbral folio]

Yeah, not sure how to use it locally, I downloaded cursor

[vital dew]

Use Visual Studio Code instead, cursor is so cheeks

The $10 github copilot plan is pretty capable

[quaint kelp]

Above what matt said

And vscode not vs2022 although you might need it

Make sure to link your GitHub to vscode for the sub usage

[umbral folio]

Oh, thank you guys

[quaint kelp]

It needs prompted as well to use the tools so have it do requirements and verify first

Make sure the vibe tools dir is open in vscode explorer

[umbral folio]

Is this the way I have to train it ?

Now is the free version of copilot just for the tests

[quaint kelp]

Tell it to look at both and verify after

I wouldn't use free because of limitations though

[umbral folio]

I won t, I will pay for that. Thank you

[vagrant kernel]

Lol, I tried to get the AI to integrate Flow into Q2RTX and it just composited the output onto the image.

Gonna see if it can somehow utilize world depth data

But it has proper depth so that's something

[quaint kelp]

Pretty

Why is it seeable through walls

Probably need to see if it can not draw upon geometry but still do it's thing

[vagrant kernel]

Because it's rendered outside of the game and then composited in

[quaint kelp]

Ah ok

Interesting

[vagrant kernel]

I wonder if Nvidia actually implemented it into the renderer or if they also did it like this

[quaint kelp]

Hummm

[vagrant kernel]

Kinda hard looking at the footage but I think the emissive lighting doesn't fully line up leading me to believe this could be a similar approach https://youtu.be/vY0W3MkZFs4?t=112

Just adding depth could do the trick

[quaint kelp]

Or timing?

Depth call is different though

So I understand

Timing it for compilation and the game receiving it though. There has to be a gap right?

[sharp seal]

This is still better

Send link

[quaint kelp]

I like the concept is cool

Learning every day

[sharp seal]

Ask the AI if there are flow leftover functions

[vagrant kernel]

That's how I began and it said nah

[quaint kelp]

If there's flow can it be hooked up to weather?

[vagrant kernel]

Was hoping it would be a quickie and now it took hours to get this

I'll ask the ai if it can extract map collision data on load and then spawn everything with that loaded

Should work

[sharp seal]

Once it works it just fucks up

Currently stuck in flow development hell

[vagrant kernel]

Are you also doing flow stuff?

[sharp seal]

I want this for RTX Remix

My version is broken and AI is not helping me much

[vagrant kernel]

Flow in RTX Remix would be sick but it does sound like a mammoth project

[sharp seal]

This is my version (building on Kim's initial implementation)

https://github.com/RemixProjGroup/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/24006778992

[vagrant kernel]

Compositing with depth detection could be a way to do it. Although the way my AI just implemented it made the fps dip to below 1fps

[sharp seal]

All it does it simulate flow voxels but no rendering

[vagrant kernel]

Implementing ray marching in the Remix renderer would be challenging for sure (also sounds expensive as hell)

The integrated particle system already uses screenspace depth information right? If I can get that working with Q2RTX that would be an approach to take

Just have the NV Flow simulation render in the background and be fed depth data

then composited into the image

[sharp seal]

Incase anyone hasn't seen, Kim got this result with her implementation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056847194809970748/1487754171179602000/Remix_API_Flow_Example_2026-03-29_06-03-27.mp4?ex=69d7798b&is=69d6280b&hm=b2db27e6adb507ca1b193f74dd4deae24b42568af86861c5d197055e858be1d5&

[vagrant kernel]

Does it have collision?

[sharp seal]

Not yet

But it would be manageable enough to figure it out since we already geometry access

So for static and dynamic meshes it is possible

Just that it would take months even for a proper engineer

[quaint kelp]

Any vram leaks with it

[sharp seal]

It's just really slowwww

[quaint kelp]

Humm

[sharp seal]

maybe a cpu/gpu bottleneck because it's not integrated properly

Which is where all of the problems are happening

[vagrant kernel]

Actually, I should step back — maybe I'm overcomplicating this.

[quaint kelp]

Actually. Maybe. Actually it's. OH it's that. Found it. Maybe it's actually this

[naive kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ABJQllCgFVQ
"So you do know the difference!" LOL, (gets dark quickly tho)

[quaint kelp]

Frustration detected . Maybe I should look at the response of the user more clearly

Ai in a nutshell

Wonder if I can make a ai that doesn't cost

Use retools on ai lol jk

[vagrant kernel]

One approach to occlusion. Trying to get collisions in there too

Guess this already solves the question of Flow performance, it would've easily been possible to run

[quaint kelp]

Need to log a performance logger to the scene when you use it

So you can feed ai

[sharp seal]

The AI is doing such a bad job at occluding it

Might wanna see some developer on how they implement occlusion for effects like this

[vagrant kernel]

It's just being cautious because the previous depth occlusion pass killed performance

[sharp seal]

Tell it to look at the g_buffer and use that information for precise occlusion

[vagrant kernel]

You can set that buffer to like 1024 res and it looks alright

[sharp seal]

G buffer has depth and a bunch of other things

I'm no expert but this should be the way

[quaint kelp]

I had to look at the buffer for my project

It fixed it with Claude opus

Only thing I'm looking at now is to see why hwnd is at a higher resolution instead of the normal

[vagrant kernel]

The AI broke the particle alignment btw and is unable to restore a working state now, even when comparing to an earlier git commit

I'll just add a line to the instructions that it should git commit after every single change

[rich jewel]

AI giveth, and AI taketh away

[quaint kelp]

#1481706093976621277 message can you ask Kim for hers to help yours?

[solemn epoch]

Compacting conversation

[quaint kelp]

Lol

[vagrant kernel]

Turns out the game just set the render scale to 110% for no reason

Sorry, AI, it's not your fault

[vagrant kernel]

This pistols got some oomph

I think I'm ok with the state of this little exercise for now

Might go back to it and make it look legit

[crimson yacht]

Can flow do explosions and stuff like that? Might be interested in this for SA2

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, although you might have to figure out a way to do collisions and stuff. It just calculates it outside of the game and then composites it on top. For the collisions in Quake 2 I just use bsp data, for RTX Remix projects it might be more complex.

Every gun is a flame thrower

Lmfao

Mini nuke

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-missile-ready-red-alert-2-nuclear-missile-silo-yuri-revenge-gif-77431568473771817

[quaint kelp]

look like your throwing a pez

hmm pez dispensers

[muted sun]

soooo I managed to vibe code dlaa into dying light 1 lol

-# granted I already had all the camera matrices and I knew the motion vectors where good but still

[vagrant kernel]

Someone vibe code RR into Control

[muted sun]

lol

[vagrant kernel]

Might need the crazy security breaking Claude model for that. Lets write them a letter saying we need access to the model. We have important things to do like path trace PS1 games

[quaint kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-kane-command-and-conquer-gif-27702502

[muted sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIYyQvBKCQ8

[rose oasis]

wow

lots of messages here today

[rose oasis]

damn dude

[muted sun]

I got lucky :p

-# wanted to see how feasible it was before moving on to doing it for real with luma

[rose oasis]

that's what happened at first with my implementation

i started from scratch, gave it dos and don'ts list. helped a lot. explicitly told it to ask questions instead of assuming (i do that with every prompt now)

[fallow helm]

More OOT3D. Link is no longer an eldritch horror anymore! Also there are now proper vertex normals. Still uses CPU skinning for the moment, though.

[rose oasis]

looks awesome

[dull swallow]

Fire

[crimson yacht]

finally that one raytracing plugin made by the SM64RT guy for N64 emulators that never released is somewhat a real thing

[vagrant kernel]

And you got it simulating and rendering in world space eventually? Any footage of occlusion and collision?

[vagrant kernel]

This is even better than the RT implementation they promised us for the N64 recomp

[rose oasis]

collision doesn't work, but occlusion does. no footage though, sorry

[sharp seal]

Holy shit

[rose oasis]

i'm gonna say something controversial

[sharp seal]

@alpine dove we got Flow in quake 2 rtx back

[rose oasis]

i think we should focus on enhancing the current particle system instead of trying to implement flow

it's already an extremely solid framework

has direct access to Remix's collision data and all that

i'll mess around with that this week

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[sharp seal]

Flow is very limited in its use, it's only use is for smoke effects

And probably fire

[rose oasis]

well, i'm gonna expand the particle system to handle them

[sharp seal]

But it's like a very solid eye candy, you have to admit it

[fallow helm]

I mean, keep in mind that this is the 3DS version of OOT, so the models and textures were both given a modest upgrade in both cases. They were a bit conservative with the improvements (so nothing like normal or specular maps, etc), but it was still a noticeable change.

Also, keep in mind I am only showing the stuff that works*. There is still plenty that doesn't.

*This is a relative term. I take no responsibility for psychological harm caused by freaky half working monstrosities.

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah, I just meant it's "a better deal" since we get the better assets of the 3DS version this way. Never really was sure how the N64 assets were going to gel with RT anyways

[sharp seal]

Old games with ray tracing has a certain charm to it. That is without any of the PBR materials. Just some basic lights etc

[rose oasis]

i'm working on updating the unity branch rn to add the updated particle system into (it's only worth it for me to do this in this branch)

[sharp seal]

What will be updated about the particle system?

[rose oasis]

adding complex smoke simulation mainly, then expanding it to support fire as well

any feature requests?

[sharp seal]

Are you implementing based on some recent paper or any new algorithm?

[rose oasis]

i will be reviewing papers and code that are of compatible licenses for dxvk-remix. goal is to make a system that can be potentially merged into mainline remix

[sharp seal]

Can you make it so that individual particles can be meshes? Like spheres or cubes?

Like is that possible to do?

[rose oasis]

🤔

i thought it already did something similar to that

[sharp seal]

I haven't seen anything recently that does that. The idea is that you could have meshes be emitted from a particle emitter and they can be tuned to have certain lighting or emissive properties

Maybe custom shapes?

[brisk trench]

I got a subscription to Claude now already used up copilot 🫠

Also payment to Ireland, I know what you're up to you tax dodging fucks

😂

Any advice on using claude code? I haven't used it before

How do I allow all commands for claude code?

[golden raven]

From the settings

[brisk trench]

that doesn't answer my question

[vital dew]

Very carefully?

[vagrant kernel]

Creepy ass procedural moon Claude generated

[alpine dove]

r u fr?

[vagrant kernel]

#1481706093976621277 message

[brisk trench]

I already hit the session limit, my god. that didn't last long

[vagrant kernel]

Damn

Don't people do like work type work with Claude? Wouldn't that run out immediately in an 8 hour shift?

[brisk trench]

It's insane because with co-pilot It can go all day

[alpine dove]

like flow?

[brisk trench]

THe most annoying thing is I've got almost everything working I only wanted one small fix

god I sound like a druggie

[vagrant kernel]

Ugh, that's the worst

I thought I'd try Claude once my Copilot requests run out but I might just pay for extra

[woven zealot]

Same with me. I spend so much on it that other vices would be cheaper at this point

[rose oasis]

hello world

[vagrant kernel]

@bright ermine I vibe slopped some moon and star handling to your sky code for Manhunt. Is that ok with you?

[bright ermine]

yuh

[rose oasis]

Claude spoke in Mandarin suddenly

[sharp seal]

this how we will achieve model efficiency

[sharp seal]

Better start learning chinese

[rose oasis]

i've never seen it do this. it's happened with ChatGPT before

[vagrant kernel]

I had a part of a reply be Chinese too once, but since I know kanji it was no prob

Man just vibe slopping away I enhanced my Manhunt mod so much in such a short time. Easy creation of custom runtimes per game is a game changer

[vagrant kernel]

It's a chinese day (could also be japanese)

Modified my runtime so Remix logic could work off of UI texture hashes and also run logic globally without being tied to a mesh/prim for camera FX in Manhunt

The AI is also just good at answering questions about RTX Remix, like I was trying for so long to get logic working in Manhunt but it turned out that UI texture hashes didn't reach Remix logic

[rose oasis]

with the codebase, it can be insanely helpful

[dull swallow]

gm all

[rose oasis]

hai

[vagrant kernel]

[golden raven]

If you ever get words from other languages and translate them, they'll actually be the correct English equivalent of what should have been there.

[rose oasis]

yeah

[sharp seal]

Why is it doing it though?

[rose oasis]

anthropic probably deployed a new variant of the model today. sometimes they're just prone to doing this

[bright roost]

Dont they have that new mythos model?

[rose oasis]

it's private

[bright roost]

Yeah. Its dangerous

[sharp seal]

Dangerous how 🤔

[bright roost]

Found a 27year old security breach and is able to completely shut down linux kernels

"As an example, Anthropic lists a vulnerability in OpenBSD that has been overlooked for 27 years, which could allow attackers to crash a device remotely "just by connecting to it." It also mentions a 16-year-old vulnerability in FFmpeg that was not identified in five million automatic scans with special search tools. Furthermore, the model was able to combine a series of previously unknown vulnerabilities in the Linux kernel and develop an attack from them that would allow an attacker to gain complete control over a computer as a normal user. These and other vulnerabilities have been reported to the respective responsible parties. Anthropic has published a blog post on the matter."

[vagrant kernel]

We need this for remixing

GTA 5 RTX in 5 minutes

[sharp seal]

RDR2 remix

[quaint kelp]

Hmmm

Ai make me Linux

[vagrant kernel]

Btw you know some Anthropic devs somewhere got some juicy insights they're probably trying to sell right now

[quaint kelp]

Remix toolkit Linux edition

[vagrant kernel]

Remotely log into peoples OS and start injecting path tracing into it

[quaint kelp]

Lol

Remix Linux os

[vagrant kernel]

Turn on their webcam and use that as a texture map against the OSes reflection handling, so they kinda see glimpses of themselves sometimes

My ideas are getting too crazy

[quaint kelp]

Imagine remix toolkit as a os

Ai make me a remix toolkit ai agent

[quaint kelp]

But but. What if we are the texture lol

Plus they can dress us with remix

Who needs filters

Has anyone tried using retools for console game decompiling yet

[solemn epoch]

Decompiling, yes. Painkiller Hell Wars (Xbox Original) model and animation Blender importer
Shotgun

[quaint kelp]

Yesh

Xbox is Microsoft anyway so it would be easier

Ngl video not zoomed in I saw a spaceship

[sharp seal]

Damn

This toolset would help a lot on decompilation projects

I've just thought of that now

[quaint kelp]

Yes

Have you messed with any 360 titles because Microsoft

Can try gears

Or port 2 to pc

[solemn epoch]

Xbox 360 runs on PowerPC arch

[rose oasis]

i've been experimenting with it already

because of the huge context required, it's not that amazing unfortunately

but it can assist in some ways

[quaint kelp]

Yes but if you find the old alpha 360 model on YouTube it was a PC first

[solemn epoch]

Define PC 😄

I would say trying to mess with X360/PS3 games is a waste of tokens

[sharp seal]

definitely

[quaint kelp]

Well original

But they were doing it

[sharp seal]

yes because the original xbox was a PC, it used an intel cpu and some nvidia GeForce GPU

i have never seen a devkit before for the original xbox

[quaint kelp]

https://github.com/ps3dev/ps3sdk eh

[solemn epoch]

I highly recommend to copy your longer prompts before sending them to the agent in VS Code Copilot

It crashed on me after composing a very detailed explanation as to what was happening

[quaint kelp]

Yea it crashes terminal or vscode becomes unresponsive sometimes for me

[golden raven]

Chat I need advice. should I finally give up with rogue trooper and move on to another game or am I in for more torture via Claude?

[quaint kelp]

Have you tried using different agents same time?

Only when stuck

Gpt can look at stuck code then after fix Claude can look at it

[umbral folio]

I’ve made good progress porting Assassin’s Creed II to RTX Remix, but I’m stuck and unsure what to try next. Here’s what I’ve done and discovered:

Set up the FFP proxy and added logging for all D3D9 state (SetVSConstF, SetTransform, SetTexture, vertex declarations, draw calls).
Forced a projection matrix and white material/lighting to make artefacts more visible and debug missing color issues.
Added advanced logging for vertex buffer pointer, size, stride, and detailed vertex declaration elements.
Discovered that some geometry is black because the vertex declaration is missing a COLOR channel. Geometry with a COLOR channel renders correctly; without it, it stays black, even with forced material/lighting.
Tried to inject a COLOR channel (white, 0xFFFFFFFF) into the vertex buffer for draws missing COLOR by cloning the

[vagrant kernel]

What are the big issues?

[umbral folio]

This is a summary made by the agent tho, I don t have any idea what these means :)))

[quaint kelp]

Lol

I was like huh

Check the uvs

Geometry hash too

The world matrix could be wack tho

Ask ai to attach a log

Or logger

[vagrant kernel]

Is the game path tracing? If not, you'll need to keep pestering the AI about the camera matrices. If they don't show under dev, lights, types then it won't work.

There need to be certain values under main.

If there is a way to extract AC2 files (I don't know if they're packed mind you) then do that and point the AI at the files, specifically shaders

[quaint kelp]

You can tell ai to fix pt . It sometimes works

The cam could be swapping too

[umbral folio]

I m just trying to make it run with FFP Proxy, but there are many problems, he recommanded me to make this proxy, then analyze some things to edit in ffp_state.h, and rebuild until everything is looking properly. Is this the correct path?

[quaint kelp]

Can you show a video

[umbral folio]

Sure

[sharp seal]

Ask around for a game to work on if you want. A simple game should do

[quaint kelp]

Simpsons hit and run

Lego games could work

[vagrant kernel]

Yes, It'll keep rebuilding the FFP proxy until it works

[umbral folio]

Not sure why the low fps, maybe because of the logs ?

[vagrant kernel]

Just keep describing what you are seeing to the AI. What happens when you move the camera or whatever. Anything of note.
Also I can't stress enough that unpacking the games files and pointing the AI at the files (just copy the path and say "look at this") really helps A LOT

[quaint kelp]

The world matrix is f

[vagrant kernel]

Especially shaders

[quaint kelp]

Ezio is rastered

[umbral folio]

I already finished my copilot pro tokens

Lol

GPT 4.1 will do the trick

[vagrant kernel]

Damn

You went through 300 requests or whatever it is?

Sadly I don't think GPT 4.1 will help make a complex game like AC2 run

[umbral folio]

Yes... at least I learned how to prompt properly for next time :))

[quaint kelp]

Show the videos to the ai via vscode. It does look at them

[umbral folio]

Ok, trying now

[quaint kelp]

And the videos almost crashed my phone lmao

[umbral folio]

=)))

xD

[quaint kelp]

Low fps is also a buffer issue probably

And vram leaks in code

You need to attach a logger as well to world matrix and cam

Because it needs to find the right one

[solemn epoch]

FFP rendering causes heavy CPU bottlnecks, all older games exhibit poor performance in Fixed Function

[quaint kelp]

Yea and ac2 or ac in general is heavy shaders

[solemn epoch]

Eg Painkiller with the +hwclass tnl flag runs at like 20 FPS on modern systems

DirectX 7 mode in Mount&Blade Warband also runs like crap

[sharp seal]

Use Claude 4.6 sonnet

Or gpt 5.4

[vagrant kernel]

His tokens ran out

[quaint kelp]

Vscode or at least mine has opus still at 3x

10 usd right

The premium would be better

But

Ye

[sharp seal]

Gpt 4.1 is so weak nowadays

Compared to the current top dogs

[quaint kelp]

Gpt 5 is ok

But it summarizes alot

[solemn epoch]

I've only been using GPT 5.4 so far. The only time I tried Opus 4.6 is when I was testing my luck with cracking SecuROM 7.3

Both GPT and Opus failed

[quaint kelp]

Yesh

[vagrant kernel]

I had both successes with GPT and Opus, it's a crap shoot

[sharp seal]

Link it to this

[solemn epoch]

I was curious if it could figure it out on its' own

[rose oasis]

getting pretty close to breaking some rules here

[solemn epoch]

[sharp seal]

Oh yeah sorry

I'll just take it down

[atomic steppe]

Down with the rules!

Down with the rules!

Down with the Kim occupation

[solemn epoch]

[sharp seal]

Tbh the idea of reverse engineering goes so deep into anything. Not just limited to getting remix to work. PseudoPolish's general RE work with painkiller is really impressive

[solemn epoch]

I've never even used it for Remix purposes lol 😄

[quaint kelp]

What prompt did you use for the level editor

[solemn epoch]

I have only had a very quick try at The Witcher 1 the day the repo was published and quickly retreated

[quaint kelp]

Try gothic

[solemn epoch]

Well I just tasked it to make a Blender addon for importing models/animations/maps etc

It's been analyzing the files I gave it and iterated on the addon

[quaint kelp]

How for animations that had to be a few tries

Wonder if I can convert unreal plugins to blender now

Or use vibe tools to re engineer and decompile oblivion remaster

[solemn epoch]

There were some tricky cases with different byte layouts and unknown parameters. I've only been providing feedback in the natural language

[quaint kelp]

Smash it open for modding

Give is binary code language. It understands more I hear

Asm to cpp converting for old ass games

Hmmm

Id has released source for Wolfenstein 3d

I'll have to dissect it

[solemn epoch]

If there's is a prompting practice anyone should follow, I would say it is to be as involved in the process as possible to be able to provide useful feedback

[quaint kelp]

Yea

[solemn epoch]

Knowing how the game works and where to look helps A LOT

[quaint kelp]

There's too many md files in vibe tools. And sometimes it reads them all

[sharp seal]

That's if you know how a game works already

[solemn epoch]

If you suspect that you know what is happening, that info could be crucial for the AI to solve the issue

[quaint kelp]

Or you get user has these instructions here and here

Instructions aren't consolidated

[sharp seal]

Most of the games are not that worked on and hence fully relying on AI might be the only way

[solemn epoch]

It is much easier to know how a game works in abstract terms than doing the actual assembly digging 😄

[quaint kelp]

I thought about giving ai a windows for dummies book for kicks

[vagrant kernel]

My biggest tip is unpack the game files and point the AI at them. That got me results the quickest

Might even be worth considering as a step for the AI to consider tbh in the instructions

[quaint kelp]

Or use livetools for hooking and give it control of the game jk

[solemn epoch]

Absolutely, no point in pointing at archived stuff

You don't want another layer of obfuscation

[quaint kelp]

It has instructions yea. But it does not have documentation from learning

[solemn epoch]

I can't spell things

[rose oasis]

(not really how it works)

[quaint kelp]

I was joking lol

[vagrant kernel]

Trying to implement the Manhunt player brightness probe is heck. I really have to force myself to see through the matrix

You think everything finally works and you set the parameters correctly, then you walk into shadow and the brightness value increases

By a lot

[quaint kelp]

Why not dynamic lighting instead?

Or you could just add bloom

Can you attach a light to the cam?

[solemn epoch]

These things are complicated. Painkiller devs had to absolutely go out of their way to implement Bloom and they obviously had the source

We've had a lot of issues with its' Bloom implementation

[quaint kelp]

Can you re painkiller and find the code?

Or decompile the source

[solemn epoch]

The issue was that Bloom was forcing the framebuffer to be 640x480 no matter the resolution, which caused issues with UI scaling in Remix

If anyone here played the mod during the first days remember that UI was really stretched

[quaint kelp]

Odd. Bethesda added bloom to some of the games they had and you had no issues

Hmmm

[solemn epoch]

You never know what terrors are hidden in the games' source

[quaint kelp]

HDR has to be different

But it helps

Oblivion was a port anyway

So og Xbox first

[sharp seal]

source game jumpscare

[quaint kelp]

Has to be rendering code but you need to fix it to a set resolution without stretching

I might make a triangle bloom project or use an engine and cast it around a block or something

[solemn epoch]

This is what we've done. The patched Engine copies widthxheight values from the resolution config and uses them for framebuffer

[vagrant kernel]

Damn Ai can just do shit like this

Don't hesitate to ask it to give you visual debug

[quaint kelp]

Wall hacks

Jk

Makes me miss the game called the suffering

Use visual debugging in cod lol jk

[quaint kelp]

Yea

I get those

It's frustrating

I might reverse my version to a stable release

See what that error means with ai

[sharp seal]

What even-

The heck

[vagrant kernel]

Yeah

I never thought to ask before but then I just went "Bro I need to see it visually" and it made it so I could 🥹

[sharp seal]

Is it using the game or custom remix runtime edit

[vagrant kernel]

Custom runtime edit

[sharp seal]

Alright

[vagrant kernel]

Doing custom runtime edits with this really is the way going forward

It's just gotta be tailor made for the specific game

[solemn epoch]

Had anyone tried to just throw at AI "Implement this paper in dxvk-remix repo"

[vagrant kernel]

Nah,I pretty much only started the runtime modification thing today, despite thinking about it before

[solemn epoch]

Seems like a very obvious thing to do

[vagrant kernel]

For post-FX AI is like cheating. I got the effect I wanted in two prompts

[sharp seal]

Many people have, I think vulpes had a working Markov chain path guiding implementation in remix

But the dog AI ate it

[solemn epoch]

[quaint kelp]

Wonder if I can make auto detection with geometry hashes so they point at the right texture in ui

Auto

Auto remix

Lol

[solemn epoch]

I like how they modeled the tornado he uses to suck you in right into the model

with bones and stuff

Guess what it is supposed to be challenge

[dull swallow]

Lazers

[solemn epoch]

level: impossible

needs 2004 Polish engineering mind

[sharp seal]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-horns-loki-who-remains-throne-time-loom-gif-10741465178926059528

Time threads

Or something

[crimson yacht]

Rope

[sharp seal]

[crimson yacht]

EVIL and OPPOSING rope

[bright ermine]

that's how the atmos sky came about

[crimson yacht]

Im not european enough i guess

[bright ermine]

had to tune it ofc but it was close enough

[quaint kelp]

That's gonna be fun to do

[solemn epoch]

So there's a railshooter-like level in Painkiller where you ride a rollercoaster while shooting demons

This thing is the rail that spans across the whole level

[sharp seal]

What happened to the clouds stuff, haven't been following your work

[quaint kelp]

Is this the hell level with Lucifer?

[solemn epoch]

It's Loony Park from the expansion

[bright ermine]

I'm probably going to scrap it

[quaint kelp]

Ah

Loony park was creepy

[sharp seal]

[bright ermine]

im not happy with it and i really don't want to keep working on it, if someone else wants to try it, go for it

[sharp seal]

Alright, sorry if it's like bothering you or something but no worries man

[quaint kelp]

Someone make a fork

[solemn epoch]

It's a really neat level, they developed a feature that is used nowhere else

[quaint kelp]

Cr I hope you're not burning out man

[bright ermine]

very much am in general rn

[quaint kelp]

Aw ok

I pray for you

[bright ermine]

sometimes the momentum just dies out and you gotta take a break

[dull swallow]

Truth

[quaint kelp]

Is the unity source editable by anyone or

[solemn epoch]

The railshooter segment was initially supposed to be on motorcycle, but that's all what's left of it

[sharp seal]

Take a break cuz you deserve it, you've always done something amazing for remix in general and for the community ❤️

[quaint kelp]

Kinda Wana put ghost rider on that

[bright ermine]

most of it is open source on GitHub

[quaint kelp]

We all need breaks

[quaint kelp]

All fair

I send virtual hugs

To everyone

[sharp seal]

🫂

[quaint kelp]

What does ai say if you ask for a hug

[solemn epoch]

It gives it to you because it is instructed to do so and isn't allowed to disobey unless the request is violating Terms of Service

[quaint kelp]

Lol

Claude talk to gpt

Filtered so can't

I thought about making cabal from command and conquer though

[sharp seal]

This is a very good idea!

[hardy hound]

Yoo hang on what's all this then?

[vagrant kernel]

Just a thing I've messed around with trying to implement Nvidia Flow into Q2 RTX. It's rendering outside the game and then compositing it in using BSP data as collision/occluder

I just wanted to see it in the game tbh

[hardy hound]

Oh well still very cool man, nice one

[vagrant kernel]

Not sure if that's how Nvidia did it originally, their only shared footage was kind of inconclusive

There didn't appear to be any hooks or hint of ray marched rendering in the Q2 RTX source code

[vagrant kernel]

Wouldn't been able to do it without the help of my boy Claude

https://tenor.com/view/gta3-claude-gif-23601630

[quaint kelp]

Gta 3 when

[hardy hound]

About 2005 I think

[quaint kelp]

I mean vibe tools

lol

[rose oasis]

😔

particle system isn't going that well

it's better than the flow implementation, but it's very buggy

[crimson yacht]

Something something buggy is only 2 letters away from working

[alpine dove]

What update r u trying to implement to the particles?

[opal ridge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/s/gL3FjfJEV4

Wonder if this could be beneficial at all.

[quaint kelp]

is claud compacting alot for everyone right now

[gloomy ginkgo]

Claude's like nah, it can't be done, the game looks good enough rasterized

[vagrant kernel]

XYZRHW is sadly still a tough nut to crack. Have tried multiple of those games without success

[gloomy ginkgo]

Is it because the game uses like a semi isometric camera angle with a in-game mouse pointer that's used to rotate the camera and interact with objects you hover over?

[crimson yacht]

high quality D3D9 !

[crystal kiln]

Lmao. It is submitted to the GPU with transforms already applied (CPU transformation), doesn't mean it can't intercept and patch an earlier stage before where the models are being processed to skip that and submit the 3 individual SetTransform() calls

[gloomy ginkgo]

Hmm I'm going to give it another shot and point this out, thanks so much!

[fallow helm]

Here is a guide I had Claude write up regarding how it got Shadows of the Empire (1997 PC port of 1996 N64 game) to be compatible with Remix. I cannot speak to the accuracy of everything it said, but I believe most of it is reasonably accurate.

[gloomy ginkgo]

Thanks! I'll see if that helps get it back on track because it just said this and I wasn't sure how to proceed:

[quaint kelp]

neat

[fallow helm]

From what I can tell, you will need to extract the camera matrices from the game as well. This has been something needed for SOTE and every other game I have had Claude work on.

It will take a bit more reverse engineering, but it is not insurmountable by any means.

[gloomy ginkgo]

This is gold! lol fingers crossed

[quaint kelp]

damnit

[fallow helm]

Gotta love it.

[quaint kelp]

my log is 982 lines lmao

[quaint kelp]

we do again

lol

[crimson yacht]

Yep im sure you have

[candid mirage]

9/10 times when Claude is very stern and serious in its quirk, "this will work" it does. But every other time it says it more casually, it dont work

[vital dew]

Yall are getting responses at least lol
Mine was stuck on "Working..." for about 2 hours last night

[muted sun]

bruh

[vital dew]

Literally same thing happening again, context isn't even budging. What could this mf be doing??

I said give me 5 seconds not 5 years

Should I just close it or hope that its gonna do something?

[candid mirage]

Try forking the chat

[crimson yacht]

Trying out gemma4, seems to be only interested in doing some light reading and not much else

[candid mirage]

That model is slightly worse than Kimki 2.5 of which is much worse than Claude

Gemma however is good in the fact it can be run without requiring an entire data center

[rose oasis]

essentially: Flow but through the existing particle and volumetrics framework instead of trying to integrate the original version

[rose oasis]

a huge part of what makes these models good is the configuation for them. if it's wrong, it just won't work right. it takes a lot of experimenting

[fallow helm]

Bit more progress with OOT3D. Got the sky to (mostly) work. It even has dynamic sun and moon light colors and positions read from the game itself.

[vagrant kernel]

Wonder if rather than making custom runtimes for specific post process effects we could have a runtime where you can slot different post process files into.

This could be interesting for the main runtime branch as well, but I'm not going to slop that codebase up

[fallow helm]

An interesting idea. Maybe also custom material types for games that use things like cel shading, for example.

[vital dew]

Yeah I took a nap waiting for this mfer to not lock up and woke up to the room being 90 degrees and my oled was still on staring at a scene with debug geometry hashes on, copilot never did anything

[vital dew]

How do I fork it?

[vagrant kernel]

Just press the stop button in the corner and say "continue the work" if it's stuck? At least that's how I do it

Someone correct me if this is a disastrous approach

[candid mirage]

Github copilot has a literal fork button above your last sent message. Of which seems to be what you were using

[vital dew]

Huh ive never seen that, ill look when im off work thanks
Yeah I thought about stopping it and saying something like "you got locked up, resume your work"

Ive also tried messaging it while its locked up trying to jossle it back into working but it ignores me

[vagrant kernel]

You gotta hit the arrow on the message, otherwise it just queues the message

[candid mirage]

Open the github log for copilot chat it will fire specific errors like if the message is too large

[vagrant kernel]

Do people use the CLI for Claude Code

[candid mirage]

id recommend it, I did feel it responded better. Reddit comments said it did

[rose oasis]

i don't

[vagrant kernel]

What do you use? I thought Cursor was their VS Code equivalent but it seems to be a whole other service

[rose oasis]

the extension in VS Code

https://code.claude.com/docs/en/vs-code

[bright ermine]

cursur changed everything with 3.0 🥀

no longer based on VS at all

i highly recommend you cancel your subscription if you have one

[rose oasis]

"lets remove the core of our program that pretty much everyone liked"

[vagrant kernel]

Nice, that's very easy of me to switch to

Or test out

Wasted my last Copilot tokens on trying to fix a Carmageddon issue so I think it's a good time to try out Claude directly

Actually I'm wasting my very last tokens trying to get Deadly Premonition to run with RTX Remix

I think I'm the first and maybe last person on earth to extract that games PC archive files. At least I couldn't find anyone mention their file names online

I let the AI comprehend and extract those files only to find out the shaders were compiled straight into the exe 🥀

[candid mirage]

Claude cli can be launched through/in VS Code hence why I recommend

[vagrant kernel]

I tried Claude and one prompt ate up like half my session usage. How are they calling this pro? Feels like a trial version. I'd rather just pay for the Copilot tokens

[rose oasis]

claude's $20 tier is just kinda shit

ask for a refund

even on the fucking $200 tier it goes incredibly fast

[vagrant kernel]

That's crazy

Yeah, I'll try to just get a refund and spend it on Copilot tokens

I did a rough calculation and by my usage it should come out around $100 a month (actual dollars, so less in Euro and no tax) which would be fine for what would be essentially unlimited usage for me

[dull swallow]

I still gotta cancel cursor

We have 3 days to stop being lazy

[vagrant kernel]

I wanna try to get as much stuff done while Copilot still seems like a good deal before they ruin that somehow eventually

So I tried making a jxr to HDR JPG converter and it pretty much used my session limit up, so any type of adjustment or bugfixing would have to come later

They're just selling a trial version

The whole session thing is so weird, like I go to bed and waste two sessions I could've had?

[quaint kelp]

D:

again

[dull swallow]

What are you trying

[bright ermine]

how do yall cause VS to lock up

[vagrant kernel]

I had it randomly lock up earlier not really doing a lot

[sharp seal]

It does this a lot lately

[rose oasis]

VS and Firefox both keep doing it to me

i don't get the pop up though. it just freezes

[atomic steppe]

Whaaat I've never had vscode crash

[solemn epoch]

NecroVisioN model/animation Blender importer

[vagrant kernel]

NecroVisioN, now we're talking true peak

[solemn epoch]

I think it has mostly the same model format as Painkiller.
PK had a fixed limit of 23 influences per animated mesh and then NecroVisioN came and increased it to 60

[vagrant kernel]

Wait, Necrovision shared tech with Painkiller? It was different devs, wasn't it?

Just randomly add Necrovision as an addendum to Painkilller RTX

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Necrovisioncover.jpg
Peakest cover

[solemn epoch]

NecroVisioN uses PainEngine. The developer (Farm 51) was founded in 2005 by members of the Painkiller team

[vagrant kernel]

Damn, never knew that

[solemn epoch]

They also filled for bankruptcy like last week

[vagrant kernel]

Noo

[golden raven]

Literally

[vagrant kernel]

Kojima was inspired by Necrovision

[golden raven]

Coolest fucking thing I've ever seen

Ghost from cod?

Cheap immitation

[solemn epoch]

[vagrant kernel]

Around 2004-2006 was a goated time for random Eastern European shooters. I miss that era.

If this isn't peak, what is

[solemn epoch]

https://youtu.be/_OmdrpRDfn8?si=5QhTxkHZC00cCM5D

There are even projects like these where people port Painkiller to the newer NecroVisioN engine

[vagrant kernel]

Damn

The Painkiller community goes hard

[solemn epoch]

It brought a lot of software engineering talent together

[vagrant kernel]

This JXR conversion tool is proving to take quite a lot of bugfixing. This would've taken me days on Claude Pro

[sharp seal]

Imagine if Claude releases Mythos

[golden raven]

Nothing ever happens

It comes out and it'll be opus but a bit better

[vagrant kernel]

The first thing you're going to try to do on it will disastrously fail somehow even if it's a simple thing

[solemn epoch]

My experience every single time a new AI model releases

[alpine dove]

i love boneworks

[solemn epoch]

And then people are complaining that the models supposedly get quantized overtime and how that release day model was a godsend
meanwhile me the first thing I'm trying to do on it will disastrously fail somehow even if it's a simple thing

[sharp seal]

ok....what does that have to do with a monstrous AI model capable of finding security related flaws in softwares

[rose oasis]

that it can get it in remix

[sharp seal]

sounds like ambitious

isn't boneworks a unity title?

[bright ermine]

il2cpp unfortunately

it can definitely work but any il2cpp game requires a lot more effort to get working compared to monobleedingedge

[solemn epoch]

Remix doesn't even support stereoscopic rendering

[alpine dove]

mmmmmm

[sharp seal]

no mono

[rose oasis]

two instances of remix

✨

[solemn epoch]

[bright ermine]

i love that game so ill definitely work on it when i continue il2cpp support in the future

[alpine dove]

vibe code it

[sharp seal]

Can we get remix VR support

With VRET

or just Claude code

[rose oasis]

it shouldn't be THAT hard

[bright ermine]

i dont think you'd need VRET for stereo, or even need to make 2 remix instances...

[rose oasis]

2 cameras

simple

[bright ermine]

yeah it shouldnt be that hard

you'd just need to make an openxr plugin next

[rose oasis]

just a niche thing

[sharp seal]

But isn't the camera offset for both eyes separately

[rose oasis]

and um

[sharp seal]

What's that

[bright ermine]

just make it configurable per game

[rose oasis]

given how hard it is to run remix normally...

[bright ermine]

runtime for VR apps

oculus and steamvr use it

i already have beat saber working via unityrtx so if i ever get my VR headset from my folks place i could fiddle with it

😛

[alpine dove]

i wonder why someone hasn’t tried doing vr by rendering the game once, shifting the view slightly on the 2nd camera thru similar methods used in reflex 2/asyc spacewarp, then have the 2nd camera render that missing information

[sharp seal]

Not many people have VR to test something like Remix in old games tbh. It's a very per game thing too

Alright maybe...

[rose oasis]

it's not accurate enough

any flaws are incredibly apparent in a VR headset

[sharp seal]

maybe remix freecam could be messed with to add VR support

[rose oasis]

you don't even need to go that far

[sharp seal]

Would be nice to see what a game environment would look like in VR

[bright ermine]

once again, you just need to create a duplicate of the original camera and just add a spacing offset...

[quaint kelp]

but you move the cam with your head right, never used vr

[rose oasis]

simply pass both cameras to remix?

modify remix for it

[bright ermine]

iirc UEVR does exactly this

[alpine dove]

no one’s tried it before?

[quaint kelp]

attach a camera proxy to it

lol

[rose oasis]

no

I have a VR headset

could mess with it

[sharp seal]

Is it going to render again for the second camera with the offset? won't it be double the performance cost

[rose oasis]

it'll have to if you want usable vr

[bright ermine]

yeah but that's how it's going to be, i wouldnt try to use cheap tricks to mitigate that

[rose oasis]

approximations without it are gross

feel sickening to play with

not worth it

[bright ermine]

its already proven remix is performant enough when there is no overhead, so i definitely think you could get usable VR with remix with 2 cameras

beat saber is definitely one of those games

it already runs on a potato

[muted sun]

path tracing in vr would look nutty lol

[sharp seal]

it's just be the really coarse headset movement that would confuse the stuff that relies on temporally accumulated data

[alpine dove]

idk i just feel there’s potential for groups to look into a system like that, especially with how i seen reflex 2 and comrade stinger’s demo work here https://youtu.be/f8piCZz0p-Y?t=377

[bright ermine]

i've seen this video, and no this definitely would not work for VR

[alpine dove]

Ig the main issue would be having the system try figure out what to render on the 2nd frame

[bright ermine]

VR already has asynchronous spacewarp and it's the best we have rn

[alpine dove]

im basically showing its possible for an engine to warp world space information and have movement in the world react to that

[alpine dove]

im not talking about frame gen in vr dw

[bright ermine]

im not either

[sharp seal]

Could we have a similar technique be applied to VR path tracing where it's like Steam Frame's foveated rendering for for rays?

[muted sun]

vr stuff aside, I wonder how well this would work for normal remix 🤔

[bright ermine]

that would be cool to see

[alpine dove]

its the same concept reflex 2 uses

[sharp seal]

But it would only work if that VR in particular has the eye tracking technology. Like Steam Frame

[alpine dove]

probably not well considering we dont have it yet

[bright ermine]

ideally the next generation of HMD's will include eye tracking, if the PSVR 2 can do it with how cheap it is, so can the rest of the vendors

hell it works on PC now with hacked drivers

[alpine dove]

idk i feel that could be quite jarring if the foveated rendering is as extreme as resolution

• resolution foveated rendering kinda already does that job

lower res = less rays

unless u mean that + even less rays

[sharp seal]

Hmm 🤔

You'd probably also need to rewrite how path tracing functions to adjust itself to eye movement. The only issue here is that the out of focus view would look insanely weird

[alpine dove]

What are you saying wouldn’t work for vr from this video, the exact technique in the video used or just the concept of using smth like spacewarp to copy and offset the first camera

[bright ermine]

because how would this be synchronized with two cameras

i feel like you'd get a screen tearing effect if you moved your head the wrong way

[alpine dove]

Just do it™

[rose oasis]

are my current projects helpful/useful enough that they should continue

[bright ermine]

yes lol

the way i see it, we're showing users and modders that (almost) any game beyond can be remixed

[rose oasis]

even if it ends up not being fully playable/performant, still worthwhile?

[dull swallow]

Absolutely

Even if your game doesnt fully work, that means you've started the basis for other modders to work with them

[alpine dove]

@rose oasis your mods saved my family ❤️

remember when one of your mods saved the orphans from that burning building what a hero

[bright ermine]

bro what

[alpine dove]

that actually happened

[fathom oyster]

I think VR could work in Remix by combining irradiance caching, temporal reuse, then alternating the render camera between the two eyes each frame. Each eye (camera) would need its own motion vector cache to avoid temporal artifacts, but in theory this would keep the cost manageable while still producing stable stereo lighting.

[alpine dove]

i think i’d finally see a new colour

[muted sun]

are there any vr games that alternate the cameras like that?

[bright ermine]

not that i know of

[muted sun]

sounds like it would be headache inducing lol

[solemn epoch]

Luke Ross makes use of AFR rendering

[bright ermine]

most games just rawdog 2 cameras, only time i have seen AFR is compat mods

[solemn epoch]

Terribly nauseating tho

[muted sun]

I was about to say lol

[alpine dove]

i’d personally just heavily use dlss

[bright ermine]

dlss transformers is probably useable in VR anyway lol

man i really want to rush to my parents place to try this lmao

[sharp seal]

I think this is the way to go

[rose oasis]

fo4 vr mod allows it

looks nice

[alpine dove]

vr games already look questionable so PT and dlss strapped to your eyes cant be any worse

[muted sun]

dlss 5 vr when?

[bright ermine]

i'd probably have to do what reshade does to get remix's imgui menu usable in VR

[solemn epoch]

https://github.com/FluorescentHallucinogen/painkiller-sbs-stereo-mod

[bright ermine]

i hope steamvr controller bindings are easy to develop for

[solemn epoch]

Native stereo in Painkiller

[alpine dove]

you tried fallout 4 remix with vr?

[muted sun]

[bright ermine]

[solemn epoch]

[bright ermine]

there is one animal emoji left...

[crimson yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-creed-love-the-debate-great-minds-gif-7898867

[bright ermine]

the prophecy has been fulfilled

[rose oasis]

yes

it's very good

[bright ermine]

hold up

[rose oasis]

I got sick right after setting it up so I didn't get to play too much

[rose oasis]

mod pack. vanilla sucks

[bright ermine]

so to be clear,
fallout 4, rtx remix, virtual reality

[quaint kelp]

fo4 remix 4k mods

[rose oasis]

no

fo4 vr

that's why I only said FO4 VR

no remix

[bright ermine]

🙂

[rose oasis]

I don't see anything about remix there 🤔

[solemn epoch]

[bright ermine]

[quaint kelp]

vr remix even

[solemn epoch]

3 hours of sleep take its' toll

[quaint kelp]

can use fake vr get vorpex D:

[alpine dove]

how was perf?

[quaint kelp]

half life alyx remix when

[solemn epoch]

8h37m was juicy damn

[rose oasis]

normal FO4 barely runs. VR would be a nightmare

[solemn epoch]

There's nothing there

[rose oasis]

but... why would you circle a blank area