Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW)

[full estuary]

I think we need to mark the smoke textures as transparent somehow in remix?

the same with decals

[sly timber]

I mean your supposed to mark them as particles for the alpha colors to go away but that isn't working which is kinda weird, altho if it's a remix bug I'll look into it

[full estuary]

oh, I haven't tried to mark them in any way so far.. only the decals and I fugured it would work for smoke too. I'll test it too with remix

[sly timber]

I mean it's not a big deal rn tho compared to other things so I can test it myself later today

https://tenor.com/view/return-to-castle-wolfenstein-gif-23195009

Whoops didn't mean to send that lol

Anyways cya for now if I get anything cool done in the toolkit I'll send an image here

set as particle texture

[sly timber]

also forgor to show this but I got these to be emissive, gonna make them brighter soon

[full estuary]

looks good

[sly timber]

( @sudden steppe sorry I forgot to ping you but i got it to work)

[sly timber]

so it turns out all the fires already have emissives? its just too dim to see

and ofc its buggy with the world geo resetting

[full estuary]

yea, I remember trying to assign light to texture (or one of the other options) but I saw no difference

well, anytime now i'll have the release ready, I managed to send light to remix..

[sly timber]

Promotional be damned

[sly timber]

Peak !

[full estuary]

f'it no release but a manual build! Let's test it first:

https://github.com/whisperglen/RTCW-SP/actions/runs/13035733799

check these 2:

seta cg_coronafardist "4096"
seta cg_coronas "2"

bridge conf enables remix API, and coronas = 2 should send all coronas to renderer even if behind, far away

@sly timber let me know if hashes are stable, otherwise we might need to compare wolfconfig.cfg; and if you see all the lights

[sly timber]

aye aye give me a second im at work but on break

@full estuary do i put bridge by the exe

[full estuary]

in the .trex folder

[sly timber]

alr

[sly timber]

hashes arent stable at all

could you send me your wolfconf?

[full estuary]

ok, send me your wolfconfig

[full estuary]

once sec

[sly timber]

here is mine

[sly timber]

this is with your conf

[full estuary]

could be the rtx.conf ?

also set r_novis 1 as I was doing some tests before

[sly timber]

it worked! it was the conf

[full estuary]

also r_novis 1

[full estuary]

I also get this when r_novis 0

[sly timber]

yeah its all stable now for me

[full estuary]

do you see the lights an all?

pls send me your rtx.conf, I'd like to compare to mine, see what I changed 😜

[sly timber]

yes

[sly timber]

one sec my break is over

[full estuary]

yea, sure, when you get home

I might take a break

[sly timber]

wowie

[sudden steppe]

Is it a single cobblestone wall texture for all the rooms?

[sly timber]

yeah pretty much

[sudden steppe]

Mind sending me a copy of the dds's?

I don't own the game

[sly timber]

all of them? sure (while they are similar there is a few different ones, however this is 2001 so theres not much)

lemme make a capture rq

[sudden steppe]

No just the cobble wall

Maybe the floor planks

[sly timber]

alright

[sly timber]

here you go my good sir

[sly timber]

I feel like im gonna be playing around with the flamethrower for hours

[sudden steppe]

Think the emissive should be much stronger. That blue flame alone should be able to light the room a bit

[sly timber]

yeah no for sure, but using the auto-translated emissives any higher dont give any more light and make it ✨ crunchy

however that being said we do have technology

[sudden steppe]

Gotcha. You'll probably need an HDR texture for that

[sly timber]

Yea probably

[pine bronze]

I wanted to mention that idea myself, and for quite a time already

[pine bronze]

And is there HDR textures of fire?

[sly timber]

I can't seem to find any that match the Flammenwerfers type

[native halo]

How are you able to get remix running on OpenGL?

Been trying to apply RTX Remix on a Disney Princess game for shits and giggles

but it uses OGL so it's not directly compatible

[sly timber]

saintmaths (i wont ping because they are asleep) made a custom renderer for the game and ive been wizarding things into it myself

[native halo]

d3d8 or 9 I presume

the logs in the screenshot say OpenGL and that caught my attention

[sly timber]

I think its actually a mix of dx9 and remix api or only remix api atp

[sly timber]

which screenshot

[native halo]

it's way above

it's the logs you get upon starting up the game I believe

with a puke-green screen and white text

[sly timber]

ooh yeah

[native halo]

Something-something OpenGL...

[sly timber]

back a while it used to be a opengl game but we made the switch because opengl is not reliable in any way with a wrapper

[native halo]

so I noticed the hard way

there's currently no known wrappers in the market that could reliably translate OGL to modern APIs

[sly timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267580661901037753/1334181307953057813/Wolfenstein_2024-04-16_21-26-41_1-1.mp4?ex=679b98ab&is=679a472b&hm=0d95a23ecdd11fccfa1c7b274f46157f78c69913a975811e95bea4f6d5d1b792& vs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267580661901037753/1334181309483847710/Wolfenstein_2025-01-29_09-27-49.mp4?ex=679b98ac&is=679a472c&hm=07102045b6d214278cbf84b03c915a1fb5be280d4f6c314515342d8d08a22922&

[native halo]

Ray-traced Himmler isn't something I had in mind 😛

[sly timber]

behold (yes ik its supposed to be night its something im working on)

the ending is a work in progress 😛

and yea the glasses are also geeked... for now

[sudden steppe]

Going to bed rn
Can you try these ones?

[sly timber]

ye i can one sec

holy shit

its so... peak

[sly timber]

thank you sm e man

[upper nexus]

POM artifacts detected

[sly timber]

Yeah

[sudden steppe]

Hmmm looking good in game. Though the POM is too strong. I'd halve or even set a third of that strength

[fickle heart]

zink can but its ogl2.1 and above

[native halo]

try putting brick POM on Himmler plz 😛

[pine bronze]

Bruh

[native halo]

lmao

[sly timber]

Alright

Its also Hella clippy with the corner walls that don't have pon which is funny and cool to look at

much less intense

[sly timber]

no lol

[native halo]

Nah I was being morbidly cheeky

[sly timber]

with one pom alone it feels like a new game tbh

[sly timber]

might try using some temporary pbr from ambientcg.com for some things while waiting to see if I can get someone who could do every texture tho or people

[sly timber]

like this tiles that match up perfectly with the origional tiles

[upper nexus]

A random variance between each brick would look nice

[sly timber]

I didnt make that pom, e man did

@full estuary i wanna ask you, but do you think it's stable enough to put the how to on moddb as sort of a beta thing? I don't want to upload it there without you giving the green light n such

[full estuary]

I would like to add the cvars we changed and are mandatory (like r_nocull r_novis etc) to autoexec.cfg because people will always mess with the config and ruin it, autoexec will reapply them whenever the game starts again -> I'll try to do that this evenin or tommorow morning

Then should I test this on an AMD card?

[sly timber]

I mean yeah sure, and alright

[full estuary]

ok, SO has an rx6700, will ask if I'm permitted to test it on her machine 😃

Then it could be ok, I did not find any serious bugs, but hey it's beta release right?

[sly timber]

Yeah lol

There will bound to be issues on a beta release so why not tag it as such

[full estuary]

OMG sv_cheats gets set to 0 on New Game 😱 😂 gotta fix that asap

also, are you seeing this too?

or better yet, don't try it, it will ruin your wolfconfig.cfg with sv_cheats 0 😢

[sly timber]

I am lol

[sly timber]

Wait wdym

[full estuary]

so when you select New Game, then sv_cheats is set to zero, and that triggers r_nocull 0, r_novis 0

[sly timber]

Yea

[full estuary]

since they are cheat protected

omw to find the cause of sv_cheats being reset

[sly timber]

[pine bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/flamethrower-fireman-pyro-overlord-movie-gif-12643409

[sly timber]

Yeah

[mighty lotus]

That looks really fucking cool

[sudden steppe]

Very nice. The adjusted depth intensity helps bringing it back to realistic values.
The visual artifacts you're seeing I think is because remix expects POM textures the be processed for the quadtree method, and the one I sent you is for the old method.
Converting back to png and ingesting via toolkit as displacement texture should fix it

[sudden steppe]

Mind recording a video so I can check how they are generally looking?

[sly timber]

yeah sure one second

[sudden steppe]

Lovely. Thank you 🫂

[sly timber]

ofc

[sudden steppe]

Gonna be doing the corners next

[sly timber]

nice, there is also 2 other stone ones idk if you wanna take a crack at them later down the line at all

[grand shoal]

Me peeing all over the bathroom tiles

[sly timber]

ok

[grand shoal]

idk why it burns tho

[sly timber]

cancer

[sudden steppe]

Lets see how these ones go for now, then I might be up to take the other ones

Also the game isn't that expensive on steam

[sly timber]

yeah

[sudden steppe]

Soon or later I might give it a try

[sly timber]

its really fun trust

its my childhood game lol

between that and wolf2009

[sly timber]

the fact that ambientcg is free at 16k res textures baffles me (for snow nonetheless)

[sudden steppe]

@sly timber here goes another one for yah
Same settings for POM as you last adjusted

[sly timber]

good timing too, im adding 16k snow to my game

my pc is screaming at me

(this is mostly a joke btw)

[sudden steppe]

wait, use these for displacement instead. Ingest them via toolkit so that POM issue should go away:

[sly timber]

wait, which pom issue?

[sudden steppe]

These

[sly timber]

ough ok

sorta half works lol

one sec tho its an rtcw issue not the pom i think

mm no it is the pom i guess? its cut off weird

is there a way to fix that at all

[sudden steppe]

Hmmm weird. The texture is not lining up with the corner.
I baked a little curvature around the edges in blender so the corners would look rounded and not sharp.
There is no POM on these though, only normals distortion
Does it happens often?

[sly timber]

it seems to be because the origional game also never bothered to line up their textures, and it only seems to be the best around doors

ie

[sudden steppe]

boring

Just use a flat one then

[sly timber]

yeahhhh poor alignment

[sudden steppe]

It is not applying to everything though. Some textures are still vanilla, despite looking like they should be the same

[sly timber]

yeah, trying to apply it to thoes makes the texture really weirdly small

[sudden steppe]

Hmm. Then it might not be the same texture. Can you inspect the material and find the captured DDS for it?

[sly timber]

sure, uno momento

hmm, sill a visible split

[sudden steppe]

Weird. Did you restart the game or updated mod.usda to refresh the textures?

[sly timber]

correct

its no longer rounded but the colors are off ig

[sudden steppe]

Are the more places with this issue?

I'm eyeballing back and forth the textures and they seem fine, no seams between them

[sly timber]

yeah, in any area where they werent aligned properly they have the issue, however to save us both time, once I get into editing the bsp ill just realign them

[sudden steppe]

Well, just keep the rounded corner version then, as it will help in places where it works fine

[sly timber]

right

I will

[sudden steppe]

Also, please, if you find that small bit that isn't replacing, send it to me. Most likely something easy to fix

[sly timber]

alrighty I will be sure to

8k snow

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-worthless-gravity-falls-dipper-pines-worthless-gif-25136060

but its funny nonetheless

[full estuary]

It’s a bit paranoid to suggest this, but you could also check the opengl version to make sure its a map problem 😁

[sly timber]

I did

#1229858482530943037 message

its lookin peak tho I wish there was a way to set sky brightness per map instead of alltogether because this is supposed to be dark but making this dark makes all other skys dark too

but making the other skies brighter means this becines a daytime map basically

[sudden steppe]

If there is no dynamic day/night cycle, you can NOT tag the sky texture as sky and replace the dome with a UV sphere frmo blender, then slap an HDRI texture

[sly timber]

all skies are moving textures

[full estuary]

I’ll look into it whe I have some time, I’d like to have different time of day. I don’t know how to do it tho rn. Do you think remix darkens the textures?

[sly timber]

a different time of day for the escape levels? or do you mean like a day night cycle

[full estuary]

Not a cycle, but settable time of day

[sly timber]

but remix can lighten and darken the textures

[full estuary]

Ex I think I could set a vertex color for the sky and that would blend in with the textures: darker colors would make it evening/night, brighter colors -> midday

[sly timber]

I see

[full estuary]

So we would have a different setting for each map, not one globally for all maps, like you said

It might be even be set like this from the bsp, dunno

[sly timber]

oooo

[full estuary]

Speaking of which, is it possible to edit bsps?

Or is there an original file which gets compiled into bsp?

[sly timber]

yes but its via an app that newwer updates cost money

[sly timber]

there are base .maps that get decompiled and then compiled into bsps

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[sudden steppe]

xoxor figured a way to call the remix API from portal 2 so levels can trigger different settings from the remix menu.
Though the remix API is deeply integrated within the game rendering. Not sure if it is possible to inject a code that calls the API while using the game's original renderer.
@novel token what do you think?

[sly timber]

i mean its not using the games original renderer

[sudden steppe]

They want to adjust sky brightness per level and the engine shares some similarities with p2rtx, I think, such as BSP levels 👆

[sudden steppe]

Aah, it is already patched or something?

[sly timber]

Saintmaths made a modification to the game to not use opengl

[full estuary]

And I’ve already integrated remix API to send the lights

So if xoxor shares what api function to call to modify the sky brightness, I think it can be done

[sudden steppe]

Ohhh cool! That is a lot of work already.
I could be wrong but I think just calling this one should be enough:
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/ab6d0bc12e1a5fb95f00a3b30c94a29f2aef5d0b/public/include/remix/remix_c.h#L549

[full estuary]

Mobile browser freaks out on that page, I’ll look in the morn.

[sly timber]

this is what was highlighted (flashbang warning) also yeh isnt it kinda late for you rn?

[full estuary]

Aha ok makes sense I’ll give it a shot tommorow. It’ 23:41

@sudden steppe do you know if there’s a wiki somewhere with api docs/examples? To get the lights implemented I searched discord and found some samples by xoxor and sultim 😂

I’m off to sleep, bb

[sly timber]

cya later saint

[sudden steppe]

There is an example by nv on github to draw a triangle with a green light:
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/main/tests/rtx/apps/RemixAPI_C/remixapi_example_c.c
Sadly there is no usage of that SetConfigVar function in the example but it should be very straight forward to use

[novel token]

There is a lot of code in there to manage, lerp and keep track of the variables and some parts are in the map_settings module as well (per map settings that parses certain config files). All you fundamentally need is this: https://github.com/xoxor4d/p2-rtx/blob/a0378519c9b43f68889539a6ac63f7c71b895cae/src/components/modules/remix_vars.cpp#L119

it’s basically up to you to write some kind of framework around that api call

[full estuary]

Are the variable names the same as rtx.conf?

[novel token]

P2 and other comp. mods I’ve created load a .conf file containing remix variables when the map starts to load.

While that is a really cool feature, it comes with a few issues. If you use the api to change settings and then tweak something in the ingame runtime settings menu and save them, you’ll also save the per map changes to your rtx.conf

[novel token]

Yea

[full estuary]

Great. Thanks for the info

[full estuary]

Yea, so if I understand correctly, when a map loads, my code will change some remix vars which will then be saved to rtx.conf. Artist comes and modifies in remix UI the same vars for testing etc. They press save and rtx.conf is modified. But if the map is reloaded by the game, my code will reapply the old values thst are saved in my own private config for that game. So artist must modify that private config too, to persist new values.

That’s the usecase/workflow I have in mind

[sly timber]

That would save alot of headaches ngl in terms of debugging and problem solving

(By that I mean we can ask if they used the private configuration or autoexec)

[novel token]

Setting vars via the api will not auto save them to the rtx.conf. That only happens when you press save in the gui.
I keep the rtx.conf as a baseline config but yeah, depending on the situation, you need to tweak multiple files.

I actually have a console command that reloads and reapplies the rtx.conf from disk. That will disable the per map changes and gives me the option to tweak the baseline config (like tagging new textures)

[full estuary]

Aha, got it, so it’s a bit more involved. I’ll read the code. Thanks a bunch @novel token

[full estuary]

I wasn’t thinking about autoexec when I wrote that sentence 😄so you need to explain your understanding about that. But lets have this convo when I understand more what can be done with remix api, cause there are a bunch of different scenarios to consider. The easier we make everyones lives working on this the best it would be for the final product, thats my principle.

[sly timber]

I mean yeah sorry lol, its late ig I just thought you meant autoexec.cfg and the sv_cheats thing as well as using somehow using it to force cvars or stuff

Its 11 I needa sleep lol

[full estuary]

Aha, no prob

Yea, that’s another head-ache 😄😂

[sly timber]

I can imagine

Altho there is something we did with the opengl version

Which worked out

Idk if it'll work but on the exe we made a shortcut and added +sv_cheats 1 to it

I tried it with this thing but it didn't work and said sv_cheats is read-only in the console

[full estuary]

I know about that

At some point recently I removed that read-only flag in the dx9 version

It will be a problem when we port to real rtcw

I was not able to set sv_cheats there. But that’s for later.

[sly timber]

I could ask etplayer about it

Tmrw tho lol

[full estuary]

Yes sure

I figured out the sv_cheats issue and commented some lines of code. We’re good to go for the planned moddb beta release

[sly timber]

Alright, just let me know when you make a release and I'll make an upload

And also in the mod do you want to be called saintmath3us or whisperglen?

[sudden steppe]

Don't know if it helps but iirc anything you put on dxvk.conf has precedence loading over rtx.conf

[novel token]

I think it’s the other way around d but could be wrong

[sly timber]

https://youtu.be/lI81hZoyYFg putting this here if anyone wants to watch

[sudden steppe]

Yoo, that is #showcase worthy

[sly timber]

Aye probably tmrw I've already sent a couple of messages and I can't even think coherently past 12, I'm only up rn waiting on if saint makes a release, otherwise I'm gonna be eepin

Oh wait I c what you meant oml 😭

Man

[sudden steppe]

Its 2am here rn. I'm off to bed as well.
Cya

[sly timber]

Cya e man

[sly timber]

Alright almost 2 time to hit teh hay

[full estuary]

https://github.com/whisperglen/RTCW-SP/actions/runs/13069559416 these are the sv_cheats fixes

1. autoexec contains some variables to make sure texture hashes do not change, and geometry hashes do not change - I really do hope I have the settings in your wolfconfig.cfg you used to make the USD exports

^but in any case pls send me your latest wolf config and I will double check

2. do not forget to include bridge.conf in the .trex folder; autoexec.cfg goes into the Main folder

3. and for mentions: whisperglen - since people may want to search for the repo on github

In about 6 hours I'll be away to my inlaws, for a weekend visit, so no access to RTX gpu, only some minor fixes on the laptop

4. mod should be playable with the wolf_spdemo too (RTX works, not sure about your enhancements as I did not test); you could mention it (entirely your choice) e.g. "And I heard some rumors that this is compatible with the wolf_spdemo game files in case you do not own the game"

5. AMD gpus work, but performance is bad (14 fps). I saw King Vulpes raise a ticket that remix 0.6 has worse perf than 0.5. Maybe he could help with some presets for AMD for future releases 🤷

[full estuary]

I just rewatched your gameplay video, This is great!

[sly timber]

The wolfconf9g haven't changed since you sent me yours, and also readin through the rest
2, will do
3, ill be sure to mention you as such
4, i can mention wolf demo and
5, ill ask him

Ill work on making the moddb release

[full estuary]

Good luck. Backup your wolfconfig and then put the autoexec.cfg in main folder and launch the game. Do your changed assets appear ok?

[sly timber]

One sec I can check

Everything is still here so yeah I think its fine

[full estuary]

Great

[sly timber]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-death-star-console-button-buttons-gif-21422478

Altho ofc we aren't quite releasing the pbr yet considering we only have 3 textures

😜 altho probably if we can get one level completely textured

[full estuary]

Ah, I thought you’d be releasing the pbr since the effect is striking. This is what’s possible and all that. But it’s okay with the rtx lights too, a bit plasticky look, but I considered replaying the game like that.. for a couple of minutes 😃 I need to implement a flashlight ingame for that, start of the village in very dark

[sly timber]

Mmmm, I guess fair i might want to add the pbr and yeah a flashlight would be cool, especially in the vest if tram

Vent in*

Alr cool, moddb is being a bitch to me again, uno momento on release lmao

[full estuary]

😂

[sly timber]

its not letting me submit the mod holy cow

its telling me to submit it but the submit button isnt there

maybe im stupid lol

[grand shoal]

Yet another falls victim to the shitty moddb site design

We've all been there

[sly timber]

where do i do it mr burrito

guh?

[grand shoal]

I forgot man

It's been a while since I posted there

[sly timber]

damn

[grand shoal]

Forgor

[sly timber]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/return-to-castle-wolfenstein-reborn/downloads/rtcw-rtx-version-010-beta#downloadsform AHA

but now i cant post an article abt it because it requires 2 or more iamged but i out 2 or more

[full estuary]

@bailey just tested it, and it's missing d3d9.dll and nvremixbridge32.exe

[sly timber]

What

How 😭

[full estuary]

and no pbr textures right? cause I saw none

[sly timber]

Also how

Gah

One sec

[full estuary]

Also I believe the autoexec.cfg is making things too bright, my bad

you can remove the autoexec.cfg for now, if you repack

[sly timber]

the hashes changed on a fresh install but not on my current install with an update

[full estuary]

yea that's what I figured 😢

[sly timber]

damn

I at least updated the zip

[sly timber]

shit doin numbers

[sly timber]

@full estuary it got downloaded and windows started marking it as malware LOL

shits fucked

@full zinc btw you are a mod for moddb right? how can I send a newsletter to the home page? it says I need 2 images but i have 2 images and just sends to linked profiles

[full zinc]

i have no idea

i can barely figure out the website myself

took me half an hour to upload my own mod before

@sick elk would probably know

[sly timber]

alright

[sly timber]

its not just me 💔

[full zinc]

you can send it into microsoft to verify as safe

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission

you need to be really, really clear in the description about the file's purpose. and also if there is source code available, link it

[sly timber]

alright

[full estuary]

Nooo

I think the question is do we want to make a proper release in github?

i.e. pull the mod from moddb and reupload in a couple of days

[full zinc]

if you have a github page for it, they're far more likely to clear it as safe

[sly timber]

we should make a proper release, then send the link with a good description of what it does to microsoft, we dont need to pull it yet as people can still download it (fun fact this isnt uncommon with rtcw mods specifically because of iortcw)

if you hit keep it continues the download

[full estuary]

We do have a githubpage, but it’s a manual build action, and not a realease. Maybe we make a proper release and send that.

[full zinc]

it doesn't matter how it was built, just as long as it's representative of what the program is doing

they approved mine and it was a manual build as well

[sly timber]

they really think there is a security breach, we may gotta take it down temporarily but unless it gets worse i wont yet

[sly timber]

@full estuary it is no longer marked as a virus, did you do that?

[full estuary]

Probably not. I just uploaded the exe to virustotal.com to see the results

[sly timber]

hm weird

[full estuary]

Yea

[sly timber]

im probably going to make a video tutorial tonight on https://www.youtube.com/@ReturntoCastleWolfensteinR-h9e this account i never used to make some things easy+explain some things

[sly timber]

Thanks, but we aren't doing comparison images yet 😅 we gotta make replacements and pbr first

[pine bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-amerigo-franco-nero-i-know-i-am-aware-gif-15020118017750362674

[grand shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/glamrock-freddy-fnaf-freddy-gif-24255336

[sly timber]

@full zinc could you update the Wolfenstein moddb page to say that it is fully compatible n update the method n such

[full zinc]

make a thread in #1199033356571123853 please

i'll def forget otherwise

[sly timber]

oh, i didnt know that existed, sorry lol

[agile rune]

For whoever got RTX remix to work. On this underrated classic. THANK YOU!

[sly timber]

Well originally I got it to work on the opengl title, then @full estuary got a fully fledged dx9 modification

[agile rune]

A dx9 port?

That's amazing!

[sly timber]

for sure

Just check pins

[sly timber]

Also some demo videos n such

[agile rune]

Does it still work without the reborn mod?

[sly timber]

Well using my opengl port it can work,, not very well, so I'd suggest using the reborn mod (because it's what uses dx9)

Is there a problem with the reborn mkd or smthn

[agile rune]

Nah I was just gonna use it without reborn till the Mods completed

[sly timber]

Rn all the mod is is a compatibility mod and is pretty much in a playable state, the pbr n such isn't in it yet

[sly timber]

Didn't do much with rtcw today mostly due to work stuff, tmrw I'm gonna look at making some minor pbr for some things in specific levels, nothing like pom because I'm not good at that by any means but

I might try some pom or pbr app

If any are free

https://instamaterial.com/ more likely than not since I'm somewhat familiar

[agile rune]

That's completely fine

[sly timber]

also @full estuary an update on stable hashes n such, I did look into it and its just new hashes, rather than hashes changing per install, so i can get pbr on the new hashes. however that means probably per update hasehs might change (dunno)

[full estuary]

In this case texture hashes have changed, right?

[sly timber]

theyve changed from the previous update however installing the latest build again they do not change

fresh install A vs fresh install B

[full estuary]

Geometry hashes could change if we change LOD cvars or bugs. Texture hashes could change when gamma/brightness change and maybe overbright bits cvar

Since i put some settings in the autoexec.cfg those might be the reason for different hashes

I have a new release on github, I wonder if the hashes are diffent or stay the same with that version..

[sly timber]

lemme check

this is with your most recent release on git

[full estuary]

So they seem the same, right?

[sly timber]

yep

everything is the same on the build as it is the realease

[sly timber]

wanted to do another one of these, so

[sly timber]

Also minor bug, loading in some cutscenes (from the save memu) seem to crash the game somewhat (reported to me anonymously via discord) I will check this to be true later tonight

[sly timber]

@full estuary when you get the chance can you see if you can put this into the rtx-remix/mods folder on your most recent release to see if it work for your machine

[full estuary]

Sure @sly timber

But it will take a while until I find the time

[sly timber]

alright

[full estuary]

I'm not seeing pbr

[sly timber]

Can you show me your debug

[sly timber]

I meant the debug view

[sly timber]

^ like this one

[pine bronze]

Look same

[sly timber]

Yeah, it shouldn't be not working

Wait

[sly timber]

Did you turn on enhancements I'm the enhancements tab

[full estuary]

one sec

[sly timber]

Weird

[full estuary]

so the toolkit creates some symlinks in the mod folder..

maybe I don't have the enhancements

I mean they were not archived in the zip folder

[sly timber]

Weird, considering that's the packaged mod and not the unpackaged one

[full estuary]

wait a second, I am not a smart man..

[sly timber]

Oh?

[full estuary]

I did not unzip in the right folder

[sly timber]

Oop lol

[sly timber]

HUZZAH

:huzzah:

Alright so it works now, good

[pine bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-return-of-the-jedi-jedi-endor-han-solo-gif-6094994

Whoops

[sly timber]

lol

[full estuary]

Hey @grand shoal my hacks for camera detection were working after all

https://github.com/whisperglen/QindieGL/releases/tag/v1.1

[grand shoal]

This a wrapper hack?

[full estuary]

Yea

You also need r_nocull "1" set it in your autoexec.cfg

[grand shoal]

That's awesome. I'll check it out asap. And by that I mean whenever I wake up.

[grand shoal]

Gotcha

[full estuary]

Yea sure. I also have an idea for stable hashes, I'll let you know in the near future how that goes

[grand shoal]

Also I noticed your sky is being detected as sky

[full estuary]

Yes

[grand shoal]

For me, the skybox geometry leaks into the game world.

Clipping and floating around

[full estuary]

You want my rtx.config also? YOu have screenshots with the changes needed to your rtx.config, above

[grand shoal]

Uh. Sure, why not

[full estuary]

RTX conf for Heavy Metal (with the camera detection wrapper hack)

[full estuary]

I’ve had that happen in RTCW when I disabled FreeCamera -> ViewRelative in remix DevSettings

So I went back to heavy metal, enabled the checkbox, and lo and behold, the sky was fixed 🍻 I uttered the appropriate curses towards your haphazard meddling with the config, but no time was wasted on that wild goose-hunt, so all is well 😂😇

[sly timber]

@sudden steppe didnt you make a leaf model type thing once?

[sudden steppe]

Not for this specie. I made some for P2RTX, for the vines

[sly timber]

oh i see

[grand shoal]

I had tried a lot of different things in desparation lol

peculiar

[full estuary]

This is what you get with my wrapper right now?

[grand shoal]

yep

[full estuary]

Can you send the wrapper logs after you exit the game?

[grand shoal]

Wonder if I have some funky stuff going on in autoexec

[full estuary]

delete r_lockpvs, but that should not cause the above bug

What map is that? I want to test it too

[grand shoal]

first one

Motion vectors alos flash occasionally. Not a particularly good thing.

[full estuary]

Just a quick test, press Ctrl+PageUP

Or ctrl+pagedown, this switches between camera matrixes

[grand shoal]

Skinned meshes disappear

[full estuary]

Ok, One more test. Ctrl+i will dump all the matrixes. Send me the wrapper log after that.

I’ll study that and think about it. Also I need to do smth right now..

[grand shoal]

awesome

[full estuary]

So it fixes itself after a while?

Or was it that Ctrl+PageUp Down thing?

[grand shoal]

what fixes what?

Also fire sword!

Holy shit, it's compressed to hell and back lmao

[full estuary]

r_lockpvs 0, solved the problem in your first screenshot right?

[grand shoal]

It was already set to 1

[full estuary]

this happens to my game if I set r_lockpvs 1

[grand shoal]

ah

let me test

[grand shoal]

same

[full estuary]

This is r_lockpvs 1

This is after I press Ctrl+PG Down

[sly timber]

[grand shoal]

ah

Hold on

I'm just stupid

[sly timber]

[full estuary]

@sly timber sorry I highjacked your channel to talk about Heavy Metal 😅

[sly timber]

Its all good dw

[grand shoal]

its been done before

lol

[full estuary]

So @grand shoal does the game work ok now? or do you still have glitches?

[sly timber]

I was .are confused if anything lmao, I just woke up and thought thoes screen shots where rtcw itself

[grand shoal]

this is waht I see

[full estuary]

Nah, we're good. Mr Burrito should make his own channel, though

[grand shoal]

not yet

[full estuary]

Ah, omfg, set r_novis 0

[full estuary]

we are not yet ready for that

[sly timber]

R_novis my beloved

[grand shoal]

what about novis?

novis 1 or 0

[full estuary]

It took me a while to realize it too 😄

novis 0

[sly timber]

R_nocis did this exact thing for rtcw on the dx9 port

[full estuary]

r_novis 0

[sly timber]

Remember that

[grand shoal]

and lock pvs?

1 or 0

[full estuary]

lockpvs 0

[grand shoal]

okay

yipeeeeeee

works

crashed when I triued to screenshot lmao

[sly timber]

^

[grand shoal]

ah

[sly timber]

Idk if it's able to be solved at all the same way it was for rtcw, by ignoring the novis check on the skybox (that's what I was told at least it could of been done differently)

[full estuary]

It might be unfixable for the games where we don't have sourcecode

[sly timber]

Kinda what I figured

[full estuary]

Maybe i need to go ahead and implement the r_novis 0 optimisation for RTCW..

[sly timber]

Wdym?

Oh you mean the texture thing?

[full estuary]

When I fixed the geometry hashes, we discussed about a possible solution, to have r_novis 0

[sly timber]

The check for sister textures in a given level and to draw those on view right

[full estuary]

Yes!

[grand shoal]

idk if it's a remix thing, but "add light to texture" is broken now.

[sly timber]

The world camera is busted and sets the lights coords way outside the map

Even with saints fix

[full estuary]

It never worked for me 😭 or I'm not very smart, which is also very possible

[grand shoal]

It used to work at one point

[grand shoal]

So what now?

Hashes are unstable

Lights don't go where they're supposed tio

am I fucked?

https://github.com/a1batross/fakk2-sdk

Also this

[sly timber]

Get hashes stable and just reply on emissives

[grand shoal]

I've heard it's not the source code for the exe

[full estuary]

Nah, that is not good

[grand shoal]

I don't think it's that easy

[full estuary]

But I have a plan

It's farfetched

[sly timber]

Saint said they had an idea

[grand shoal]

💡

[full estuary]

I will hook into the game and replace code

Do you have a problem with that?

[sly timber]

Uncle its time we teach you the virtue of patience

[grand shoal]

I know. I am just wondering

[full estuary]

The guy who works on COD2 did not want that..

[grand shoal]

The guy who works on cod 2 is

...

something else

[full estuary]

ok

[grand shoal]

lol

[sly timber]

[full estuary]

The dll will get flagged as virus/trojan maybe, but maybe we do not distribute via moddb.. don't know, we will se

So have a little patience. Am am actually excited about it.. and I am a lucky b*stard

@sly timber I was thinking about making an implementation to have different "rtx.skyBrightness" for every map

I will do that first

[sly timber]

Might I ask if you have a game plan for that? Or will it be a wingit moment

[full estuary]

Also I'm thinking to have an onscreen menu, to update Lights intensity

[full estuary]

SO there will be a config file wolf_rtx.ini

[sly timber]

Like a remix menu or

[grand shoal]

There are a whole bunch of hidden voicelines in the game files lmao

(I'm going offtopic)

[sly timber]

#offtopic

[full estuary]

We will have a section for [rtxconfig.mapname] and there we can set which remix options we want changed when the map loads

[grand shoal]

Just...

[full estuary]

Yea , a menu similar to remix, which a dropdown, to select a lighhash, and then change the intensity and maybe color

[grand shoal]

One more

[sly timber]

I will just say that isn't remix related so unless it hasto do with any opengl title here being supported for remix I'm not gonna allow it uncle

[full estuary]

Uncle, can you please make a Heavy Metal FAKK 2 channel

[grand shoal]

no I'll stop

[full estuary]

We will need to discuss stuff in the future

[sly timber]

That would genuinely be helpful considering stuff like the r_dynamiclight flammen having a flashbang light instead of relying on the fire emissives

[full estuary]

Also @grand shoal do you plan to do PBR and assets for Heavy Metall, or just mess around?

[grand shoal]

I plan on using ai textures for the time being. I already have a major project that's dead in the water at the moment

And that project is much larger lmao

[sly timber]

Which one is that I didn't know you had a project

Anyways if you don't make a heavy metal channel, I will

[grand shoal]

It's NFS Underground 2

It was one of the first modder project to get an insane amount of attention

It's dead at the moment

[sly timber]

Damn

[full estuary]

Do they have a technical issue, or work on assets is moving slowly?

[grand shoal]

Both, really

Assets take a long time to make

And although the game is playable from start to finish, there are a few technical issues that are really annoying

[full estuary]

Aha, got it

Let's pray to the gods of reverse engineering they will be kind to Heavy Metal

[grand shoal]

kinda like these quake related projects. The games are playable, but small tech issues here and there make it annoying

[full estuary]

Ye it shucks

[grand shoal]

Regardless. I'll be sticking with ai textures for a bit. Just to see how it could look.

[sly timber]

That's idtech3 and idtech in general tho, after extensive extensive look into how they get there workarounds (but not source code level looksee) they are quite literally always in the brink of standardization with some new twist

It was fun learning about how they optimize their game tho

[full estuary]

Yea, that was my thinking, at least I will learn a thing or two, even if it fails (my rewrite of the renderer, that is)

[sly timber]

Yeah

[full estuary]

Ok, I will go back to coding, and @grand shoal please create that channel for Heavy Metal

[sly timber]

If you don't i will

[grand shoal]

Yeah, in a bit. Gotta do a lot of writing for a first post lol

[full estuary]

You have an rtx.conf, code in github and a showcase for it

[sly timber]

I still find bsp alone to be such an amazing map structure type, simply being basically binary to define solid arra to empty areas in vistrees and such

[full estuary]

Yea, that's brilliant actually

Ah, @sly timber flammen orange light.. I enbaled that when I created the stable hashes build. Should I disable the orange flammen light? Only the blue one would be visible.. (no ideea where that one is disabled tho..)

[sly timber]

It would be best to disable the fammenwarfers orange light because it takes away from the flames emissive effects, yeah

Altho it's not a priority lol

[full estuary]

Great

[grand shoal]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1337807482046779393

[full estuary]

Yay, good job dude

[sly timber]

Good job

[sly timber]

Another thing I find really neat is the use of mocap for some things in rtcw

Or at least what looks like it

[full estuary]

really? I did not know that

the enemies look pretty good in motion, i.e they don't look like marionettes

kudos to the developers

[sly timber]

Yeah

And in the cutscene https://youtu.be/A087T4qBAx0?t=37s for escape1 its really prominent here with how fluent the doctor moves

it's really impressive to see how they used technology with the limitations of the engine

[full estuary]

you're right, all those unnecessary hand and body movements, it must be mocapped

[sly timber]

Its overall just very fluent and I applaud them for the use of it

Makes the game feel more alive to say something like half life 1 esc animation (not a direct comparison I'm just giving an example)

[grand shoal]

oh wow

Mocap in that day and age?

Crazy

[sly timber]

Yeah

Mocap was made around the 1980s and was used in some movies, but was considered expensive and pointless for video games, however rtcw did alpt of experimentation with their game and had a healthy budget

[grand shoal]

Yeah, I know it's old

But seeing it in games that old is kinda crazy

[sly timber]

Yeh for sure for sure

[full estuary]

@Bailey that remix configuration thingy is done ~~https://github.com/whisperglen/RTCW-SP/actions/runs/13218464223~~ DELETED see below

[sly timber]

ooo

[full estuary]

There is not an additional file in the zip: wolf_customise.ini

[rtxconf.default]
rtx.skyBrightness = 1.0
rtx.fallbackLightMode = 2

[rtxconf.escape1]
rtx.skyBrightness = 0.1
rtx.fallbackLightMode = 0

so here escape1 has skybrightness set low

But every other map has it to 1.0 because of [rtxconf.default]

you can do the same thing for escape2 as for escape1 if you add [rtxconf.escape2] with the same setting as [rtxconf.escape1]

makes sense?

[sly timber]

yep, it does make sense

and it works too!

[full estuary]

yeee

one thing though, the options are CASEsensitivE, they fail silently if the case is not appropiate

I struggled with that for the last half an hour

[sly timber]

I see, i guess that makes sense due to how the map is loaded

[full estuary]

For rtx config too. I was sending the data perfetly on first try, but nothing happended

Luckily I'm compiling the rtx dxvk myself and I debugged through, to discover it was not finding the options I was sending as available in remix

One facepalm later, success, and night day options 🥳

[sly timber]

huzzah!

https://tenor.com/view/my-turn-okay-my-turn-despicable-me-gif-12843805

[full estuary]

Ah, shit forgot about flamen orange light

1sec

oh, and this the mapnames: https://github.com/whisperglen/RTCW-SP/blob/master/map_names.txt

[sly timber]

ive already got all the names of each map by heart

[full estuary]

kudos

[sly timber]

also idk if you tested any, but do loading cutscenes from the save menu crash for you too?

[full estuary]

sadly no

do you get a remix error, or the game just closes?

[sly timber]

the game just closes

[full estuary]

can you send the Crash .txt file in the gamedir?

but what cuscene in particular?

I've only tried loading cutscene1

[sly timber]

its 11 and 14 for me with or without remix

both 1 and 19 work for me

[full estuary]

https://github.com/whisperglen/RTCW-SP/actions/runs/13218563722

no flammen orange light (not tested)

[sly timber]

tested it, works 👍

[full estuary]

cool

no crash for me. I've done spdevmap cutscene19 to get a savegame there, then quit, went to main menu, Load game, Autosaves, and loaded cutscene19, it worked

same for 14 and 11

do you do anything else?

[sly timber]

I only loaded auto saves, I suppose i should try to make a new savestate

[full estuary]

ok, send me one autosave from the save folder

maybe it's the savefile..

[sly timber]

Right, I will after I get ready to work, then I'll most likely be out after I send it for 3 ish hours

[full estuary]

Ah, do it when you have enough time, don't mind me..

[sly timber]

Ah nah de it's fine, if I can send it you can most likely figure out the problem or rather if it's something specific

Dw*

[full estuary]

thanks

[sly timber]

also i did wonder, is this a bug sorta thing? in opengl the distfog works as intended, dx9 no rtx is a flat plane or dist texture and in remix, doesnt work and shows off the non-skybox (happens in tram too)

[full estuary]

we'll have to compare notes when you have time. It may be a bug with the gpu drivers also. I've had the fog working ok in dx9 & no remix

I remember it did not work for you on 1st day..

and yea, I do see that vignette thing (dark screen edges) in tram and norway (and even in escape1, glitching outside castle), I can check that out

[sly timber]

if anything i can just make my own skydome and whatnot (it would be a pitch black dome considering all things or light grey

[full estuary]

can you test with r_zfar 4096 or even larger, and see if that plane dissapears

note: in dx9 the fog implementation is not thick enough to obscure geometry (or maybe devs do not set correct thickness parameters, dunno), so they use a trick to stop drawing map geometry (set lower r_zfar), and it creates the effect that the for is obscuring it..

[sly timber]

noticeable lol

and as for the rtx vig sky, https://ambientcg.com/view?id=NightSkyHDRI001 exists so idk how much that would hurt the style choices of the original game tho

just need to figure out how exactly

[full estuary]

we do need a night sky in escape1: stars or maybe a big moon; something is missing from that sky

also the simple sky (due to vertex light) we have now is pretty different than the sky with lightmaps, so I don't know.. people who complain will always complain..

[sly timber]

yeah lol I feel like no matter what we add nobody will like it, however, my idea is to hold off on stuff like hdri untill we can get more pbr and whatnot so that it can come as a v1 complete package deal type stuff

hopefully the end goal is something similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o70SfFJDGKo not in terms of copycatting but in terms of looking different, but still goof

\good*

man if only i had adobe, this looks literally perfect

https://ambientcg.com/view?id=NightSkyHDRI003 this has a moon, but isnt really stormy

[full estuary]

not really into the stormy look to be honest, for me a happy night night sky is great; is mysterious enough

[full estuary]

It looks good tbh, but that kind of detailed textures would also need mesh replacements, no?

[sly timber]

fair (not like we have a choice anywho my ass is not paying 40$+80$)

[sly timber]

to be honest yeah, it definitely does, that's the plan, hopefully if i can get any modelers

would ask this person until you realize that thats all eu5 base assets and free model assets

still amazing tho

[full estuary]

Yea

On the other hand, and mind you this is not criticism or disagreement, in my later years I have found I far more enjoy a simpler look, like what I found in recent Legend of Zelda games, I fell in love with that aesthetic

[sly timber]

yeah definitely, im not saying we really need a complete overhaul, but just enough of a remake to make it not look like its a geometric nightmare with new lighting, basically tldr not hl2rtx but not doom2rtx

somewhere in the middle

[full estuary]

sounds good to me

[sly timber]

obviously the major thing to note is the bsp, mostly assuming we can edit the bsp rather than try it out in remix, between worldclipping (think "world hitboxes" being differnt than the mesh replacements causing that) as well as becoming too diffferent between asset artstyle

consistency and preservation

ragh sorry for the ranting about this LOL

[full estuary]

np, it revises and distills the thoughts 😜

[sly timber]

i think for giggles and whatnot im gonna see how this imports

[full estuary]

😃

[sly timber]

whoops LOL

but it worked! sorta

[pine bronze]

its pretty much you just have to hide original model

[sly timber]

hitting ignore on the orig model hides the replacement too

one second tho i got an idea

[sly timber]

just dont reload

[full zinc]

why is it using the old RR model again?

[full zinc]

gun looks nice 🙂

[sly timber]

#1116089843479498782 message self note for after work

[sly timber]

besides the fact that the 3d sky breaks with hdri, looks p cool

[sly timber]

@flat garden thanks for the help on this too btw

[flat garden]

no worries im interested to see how it looks!

[sly timber]

so what i have so far is the non ingested sphere that was stolen(cr said to) from their mod and the ingested textures, obviously as youve seen its only been whitewashed textures

[flat garden]

ahhh

don't ingest the textures

just ignore and import

the .hdri sky texture

[sly timber]

i dont get that option

[flat garden]

maybe it was already ingested?

[sly timber]

why would it ask to ingest if already ingested?

[flat garden]

im not sure what is going on there but what i do is select the texture from here

[sly timber]

same here

[flat garden]

are you selecting the file that you just downloaded or does the hdri file exist in your project already somewhere

[sly timber]

the hdri doesnt exist anywhere yet

[flat garden]

is that the toolkit from nvidia app?

[sly timber]

yea

[flat garden]

alright not sure why you dont get the option

but theres another way to do it

is the hdri in dds format

[sly timber]

it is

[flat garden]

would be easier if you could go on the voice chat and i can stream my screen and show you

[sly timber]

again i really cant atm

[flat garden]

no worries

just a sec

do you have many layers?

[sly timber]

not really no, theres is nothing in mod.usda

at least i dont think so

[flat garden]

cool

right click your mesh and go copy prim name

or hash either one

open mod.usda in a text editor and CTRL+F to find that hash

copy the downloaded hdri .dds file into your project folder and edit this line:

to point to the texture

if there is a file with the same name as your hdri .dds with an additional .meta extension, delete the one with the .meta extension

also send me your hdri dds file here if possible

if discord lets you

and your mod.usda and the name of the hdri you are using

[sly timber]

alright im back

[flat garden]

wb 🙂

[sly timber]

this is the dds

and now i have it pointing to the texture witout ingestion

[flat garden]

nice

[sly timber]

and i just hit save?

[flat garden]

yep

save the mod.usda

it should pop up on the bottom right of the toolkit "layer changed, load changes?" or something like that

(if the toolkit was already open when you saved changes to mod.usda)

[sly timber]

the toolkit now does this when opening the mod (it crashed before)

[flat garden]

send me your mod.usda

and copy paste of the whole error log from the terminal there

you can press control+A to select all the text in the terminal and control+C to copy it

then ctrl+v to paste it here into discord

[flat garden]

i don't think thats the full contents of the command prompt

[sly timber]

hold on

[flat garden]

you need another @ symbol at the end of line 407 in your mod.usda after midday.dds

asset inputs:emissive_mask_texture = @./RTCWRTX/midday.dds@ (

[sly timber]

now it works, but is even more pasty white

[flat garden]

could you take a screenshot of this whole section with your skysphere selected in toolkit

[sly timber]

this is all that fits in the screen

[flat garden]

scroll up so i can see the mesh stuff

put emissive intensity to 1 as well

[sly timber]

emissive 1 and mesh selection

[flat garden]

scroll up a bit in t hat section so i can see base mesh please

ah weait u did

already sorry

back up your mod.usda file just for fun
then delete this

[sly timber]

the ground was deleted

[flat garden]

damn alright undo that

[sly timber]

already did

[flat garden]

press the blue dot next to the diffuse texture and normal texture etc. it looks like you are using midday.dds in those as well

those should be empty

it also looks like you have more than one skysphere

one over mesh_27F721E945BF77F4 and one over mesh_B962333BCAD6263B

and the sphere is rotated

maybe the sun is underground

back up your mod.usda and try this one

[flat garden]

no better?

[sly timber]

no better, its just white now

[flat garden]

try going into RTCW and take another capture, but make sure that you have volumetric lighting disabled, and default post processing settings

sorry you're having these struggles, it shouldnt be this difficult, but we will get to the bottom of it.

[sly timber]

well now it kinda works, still no sun and the sun in the sky does this

[flat garden]

alright thats progress

what did you change

[sly timber]

i just used my dds, with the @.rtcs/midday.dds@ and no other changes

[flat garden]

could you send me your rtx.conf? and which level / map is it that you are testing on?

[sly timber]

forest

[flat garden]

also (many questions 🙂 ) are you using a version of the runtime from github?

[sly timber]

i think its a minorly edited runtime from saintmaths dx9 mod

[flat garden]

ahh where can i find a link to that

nvm i found it

pinned messages

[sly timber]

there is also this which is a more recent build with extra support items

[flat garden]

ahh cool where you get that

and how recent

[sly timber]

i made it and put it all together, and recent as in yesterday (me and saintmaths work together on this for compatibility etc but they do most of the source code hard gruntwork)

this is right before i asked you and cr about hdri

[flat garden]

ahh cool

is there a console command or something to load forest

[sly timber]

/map forest or /spdevmap forest

[flat garden]

i think you might have to, instead of tagging textures as sky, ignore them instead

they may be interfering with the replacement skybox

got it working

[flat garden]

make sure albedo color is black too

put your emissive intensity back to one here:

seems good

[sly timber]

hm

so it was an intensity of the emissive issue?

[flat garden]

in the runtime that was cranked to 500 for some reason

[sly timber]

for the flamethrower and torches LOL cuz i didnt wanna make emissive textures

[flat garden]

ahh true

[sly timber]

the worse part is unlike some games each particle is an individual texture instead of a sheet so its a double pain

[flat garden]

if you want those particles to emit light

this has to be turned on

[sly timber]

yeah thats on

[flat garden]

for painkiller i modded the game to add a tiny unique mesh to each particle effect that I could attach a light to

[sly timber]

interesting

[flat garden]

because for that game the particle billboard mesh hashes were not stable

but if yours are stable you can just slap a light straight on it

[sly timber]

beautiful

[full estuary]

This looks good! Good job!

[somber quartz]

grass looks bit off (i dont know if this good for the game atmosphere)

very bit darker ones may do it better

[sly timber]

the grass is not touched

its just the sun

[pine bronze]

yeah, wanted to say that its because of lighting, its overbright

[flat garden]

btw if you have strange orientation and controls in the toolkit set z up to true
and change the line that says y up to z up in the mod and project isdas

usdas rather

[terse sparrow]

Also the gun is like a perfect mirror, should be alot more diffuse lol

[full estuary]

@terse sparrow Excuse me sir, do you have a moment for Todd Howard to share his vision about glass weapons? 😄

[terse sparrow]

No I still need to attend his seminar on environmental storytelling

[full estuary]

In any case I doubt it was intentional, the showcase was about the skybox and indirect light from said skybox 😉

[full estuary]

fair enough

[sly timber]

^ the gun was merely there to make sure i knew how to implement usd models properly to a view model (as to not have it frozen in place)

I also want to state NOTHING in thoes screenshots will be in the final one they are all TESTS

Going to have to slap it on every time.I post any images

[full estuary]

Don't bother, the personas non grata target audience have already made themselves known 😂

[sly timber]

Lol

[full estuary]

Btw, I repro'd the crash when loading the cutscenes after I fiddled in the game a bit.. I'll see if I figure where the issue is.. it's one of those complicated things that hopefully realrtcw has already fixed

[sly timber]

Alright yeah

In other news jc Denton himself sent me a friend request ! ill see where the dms go because I don't have any mutual friends or servers woth them, so I'd assume it's from my moddb page

No, jc Denton is the main character of dues ex

https://tenor.com/view/jc-denton-deus-ex-gif-22280125

[grand shoal]

Who

[sly timber]

Yeah lol

[grand shoal]

Oh

[sly timber]

I don't know how they could've gotten my discord besides from the moddb page

[full estuary]

You’re famous now Bailey, you have to buy us drinks to celebrate 🍺

[sly timber]

Right! Lmao

Drinks all around

[full estuary]

🥂 santé

Live long and prosper

[grand shoal]

Bailey. Buy me the finals battle pass. You must have a lot of money if you're that famous

[sly timber]

Unironically if you want it i could gift it to you, I'm not a brokie irl

[grand shoal]

Nah, nah. I don't like doing that lmao

I was messing around

But my days of wasting money on tf are over. I've spent like 250 on it already

Back when I had more money than brains

Now I have less money and less brains

[full estuary]

A story as old as time 😉

[grand shoal]

Lmao

[sly timber]

he reported that lightmaps dont work in the rtx mod,, and then had this to say lol

[full estuary]

Yea, we will make some cvars readonly, including r_vertexLight

[sly timber]

yeah lol, idek why they wanted lightmaps on the lighting mod...

[sly timber]

😭 oh na

[mighty lotus]

What the fuck 😭

[sly timber]

one thing im remastering is removing the ass from that person

[full estuary]

Yea, take out those highlits

[sly timber]

yeah

[grand shoal]

I would also get an erection if I saw fully path traced latex bodysuit reflection.

Just bein honest

[mighty lotus]

I mean, that mother fuckers room is hella white

In all my days I only seen 1 other mother fucker with that level of (for lack of a better word atm) goonerness

The audacity

And

AGAIN

that shits wild

[mighty lotus]

I mean, ya like what ya like, I ain’t on some pixelated shit myself, but I ain’t judging, but that fact that you telling people you beating ya dick, shits unreal

[grand shoal]

Lmao

I know

"become ungovernable."

[mighty lotus]

Then you become stuck in ya own white paste and fucking die of starvation/dehydration

[grand shoal]

Now that's crazy

[full estuary]

No hating on this channel please

[grand shoal]

I love it when 8 gets angsty

[mighty lotus]

I’ll stop

[sly timber]

discord is dying

anyways yeah chill out here this is a chat of understanding

[mighty lotus]

Already agreed to stop

[pine bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-laughing-alejandro-call-of-duty-cod-gif-1637865648357560663

[sly timber]

Anyways he also said village1 is too dark but I told him we aren't working on village rn

Annnnnd just time to step away from the convo :walkaway:

[mighty lotus]

That’s

Mmm

Maybe

Instead of walking,

Try running

That may be the most insane thing I’ve ever heard anyone say directly to a person with no shame

Or seen ig

[sly timber]

https://tenor.com/view/backawayslowly-awkward-gif-9584750

Yeah

[mighty lotus]

Mhm

[full estuary]

There is a reply you left with your discord id in a moddb convo

Also there is a chance he might join this server if he’s got stalker instincts

[sly timber]

I know, I'm gonna edit it when I get on pc tmrw

For now i changed my discord username ever so slightly to where I can still be pinged but that person can't dm me

[full estuary]

Good, gray rock if he does, don’t entertain, don’t enflame.

[sly timber]

I know, have no plans to acknowledge his existence

I say ik alot

Jeebus

Anywho

[full estuary]

Yea sorry this happend. I may be a little too worried about it 😅

[sly timber]

I'm worried too lol, i could probably ask Kim to ban them before they even join (if they have an id bot) but I thinkkk they wait for people to join the server

@full zinc ...? sorry to ping bur

[mighty lotus]

Forget allat, get the mf on a watch list, he’s the stereo typical rap (can’t finish the rest of that word in the server)

Maybe that was a bit rash

But still

Genuinely worried for your safety and the safety of others

[full zinc]

yes, will do

i had seen this chat and already checked to make sure they weren't here

@sly timber DM me their user ID please

[sly timber]

1165957776405704710

[full zinc]

you're sure that's right?

[sly timber]

Let me double check

1165957776405704710 copying the user ID from profile gives me that yeah

And this is the username

[full zinc]

doesn't work...

weird

[sly timber]

Wdym

[full zinc]

normally you can just do:
<@[id]> to get the user profile to show up, you can then right click and ban

[sly timber]

Ough do you not have an id bot?

[full zinc]

i do but i forgot how to use it lmao

[sly timber]

Which one is it

[full zinc]

custom one. rune is familiar with it. i'll ask him to do this

[sly timber]

Oka

[full zinc]

@sly timber done

[carmine creek]

https://tenor.com/view/his-the-body-lol-clap-gif-5740906

[grand shoal]

No why would you ban him???

[full zinc]

for being a creep

[carmine creek]

Because this is a genuinely disturbing conversation they started and it made people legitimately feel unsafe.

[full zinc]

you know how disturbing it is to have that kind of stuff directed at you?

[grand shoal]

But it would have been soooo fun to mess with him for a little bit before banning him

What the fuck is unsafe? Is the guy going to jump out of my monitor?

Pfft

[carmine creek]

Considering how I have received death threats for my game development work in the past, let me tell you. There is nothing fun about it. Creeps do not belong here, period. It's not up for discussion why obvious pyschos do not belong here.

[fickle heart]

This generation is so soft

you guys clearly haven't been to mw2 lobbies 🤣

[grand shoal]

No fun

[carmine creek]

I have heard enough 10 year olds claiming to have fornicated with my mother and who wanted to unalive me, but xXKevinChad69420Xx ain't gonna show up in front of my house. But credible treats are different.

[full estuary]

Personally I worry about the guy being a nuisance, and pestering Bailey on youtube, twitch etc basically Adoring Fan from skyrim vibes with regular hot PMs