Sonic Adventure DX ( 2003 Version )

[royal ridge]

Ingame now

You need an old 2003 version, NOT the steam one

do not install BetterSADX or SADX Mod Manager

install this
https://github.com/elishacloud/dxwrapper/actions

and place the OLD rtx-remix files from first portal rtx game

and here you go, GUI and other related stuff is kinda broken, but you are able to run the game at least

didn't tested further

[barren lichen]

hmm

can you capture the scene?

[royal ridge]

idk i didn't tested

the first remix gui is poor

do not wanted to use it

lol

[barren lichen]

this looks very good

natural lighting

[barren lichen]

@royal ridge does the game crash when capturing USD

[royal ridge]

i'll try wait

[royal ridge]

yup

it crashes

her blue skin ( or fur tf? ) reminds me the unleashed shaders

or generations

i like that

[royal ridge]

but it can't run with the latest rtx-remix and thats freaking sad

[barren lichen]

put an issue up on github

they will look into the crashes

[royal ridge]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix
?

or some particular repo?

[barren lichen]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues

[royal ridge]

okie dokie

[royal ridge]

i did

[royal ridge]

OK

You can use SADX Mod Loader

with old portal rtx files

[barren lichen]

but we need 0.2.0 support

[royal ridge]

it crashes in any situation with 0.2.0

i just didn't noticed that you can use SADX Mod Loader

it works with old remix

and the raw game works too

but 0.2.0 doesn't work at all

[barren lichen]

Fixed?

[royal ridge]

of course not

they're not that fast

idk why but some normals are jsut dark

but god

not glitched places looks amazing

[warped fox]

Alright so, old 2003 version, and which version of RTX?

[royal ridge]

I grabbed the old one from portal rtx

[warped fox]

damn, now I have to download that, lol

[royal ridge]

Yeah good luck

💀

[warped fox]

23gig isn't too bad

[royal ridge]

The GitHub ones doesn't work

Maybe the first one on the GitHub will work

But I didn't tested

[warped fox]

Did you try with that newer Portal mod that was remixed?

[barren lichen]

@royal ridge did you try taking the portal dxvk.conf file and running it with latest remix version?

[royal ridge]

The others are don't

[royal ridge]

Yes

Nothing is changed

[royal ridge]

Prelude?

[warped fox]

Yea

[royal ridge]

It has a version between 0.1.1 ( I think, I forgot the name on the GitHub ) and the latest 0.2.0

So, it doesn't work

[warped fox]

Well, once I get this up and running, I'll potch around

[royal ridge]

And even with portal's old rtx remix, there's a black surfaces around

And broken denoiser

[warped fox]

Better than nothing for now, it'll be good to get a head start remastering

I just want to get started making some artwork

[royal ridge]

Denoiser is working, yes, but it blurs out everything

[royal ridge]

Yeah Im understanding you

[barren lichen]

try the fixed denoiser instead, it was made by HellRaven

[warped fox]

You got a source for that?

[royal ridge]

It blurs and "stretching horizontally" idk how to describe it

[barren lichen]

yeah its for Underground 2 but it should work for every game right?

#1103377328530276403 message

its in here

with a download link

[royal ridge]

But the old remix is lack of settings

I hope it'll work

[warped fox]

They better give us ray reconstruction soon

That is the most exciting thing to happen in a while

[royal ridge]

I want to try OctoTex so bad

On sadx

[warped fox]

Which one was that?

[royal ridge]

Wdym?

[warped fox]

What did it do? lol

I didn't pay attention to most of the mods included with it

[royal ridge]

OctoTex is my tool for automatic upscaling and PBR generation

[warped fox]

Ooh, righto

[royal ridge]

And automatic exporter back to the remix

[barren lichen]

yeah i was making a GUI for it, worked 60% of the time lol

i like that it generates all of the PBR, but i really need write.py to be functional

[warped fox]

I'm a bit behind with Remix, did anyone ever figure out how to bring in your own meshes?

[barren lichen]

actually yes

[warped fox]

something that isn't painful? 😛

Oh yea? nice

I tried with The Thing, but gave up

meshes were brought in, but the normals was messed up, as well as the UV's

[barren lichen]

#1110245358040260668 message

#1110245358040260668 message

its our go-to project for now lol

[warped fox]

That's.... a lot to go through 😛

[warped fox]

I give up, I can't get it to work, it's in game, but super glitchy, and doesn't even look like it's active

Using the old Portal rtx files, with DXWrapper.

[royal ridge]

Glitchy?

If you see the white screen

That's ok

Or yellow screen

Use sadx mod loader

To start the first act in the game

Not the first boss battle

[warped fox]

I thought you said not to use that?

SadX

[royal ridge]

Yeah, I thought that it doesn't work with old rtx

But it does

On original CD version of course

[warped fox]

Can I be a pain and ask your step by step for this, like currently how it's set up for you

[royal ridge]

I can't tell you in details, cuz my PC is in office

And I'm home right now

[warped fox]

Alright well, we'll spit ball

I have original game

installed fresh

[royal ridge]

Yup

[warped fox]

then we get DXwrapper

[royal ridge]

Yes

[warped fox]

use the DX8 dll with wrapper dll and ini

[royal ridge]

It does not support 16:9 high resolution screens right?

[warped fox]

put those in the exe folder

[royal ridge]

Yes

[warped fox]

ok cool, then we take the files from portal rtx

.trex folder

[royal ridge]

Yeah

d3d9.dll

dxvk_d3d9.dll

[warped fox]

nvremix dll?

[royal ridge]

And bridgeSomethingIForgot32.dll

I've forgot

[warped fox]

NvRemixBridge32

this one lol

[royal ridge]

Yup

[warped fox]

And they go with the exe

[royal ridge]

Yes

[warped fox]

I did all that, was there anything you did with the configs?

[royal ridge]

Then run the sadx mod loader

[royal ridge]

Yes but I can't remember, and all files are on the PC on office so

[royal ridge]

Select your max resolution

[warped fox]

was there a specific version of SADX you used?

[royal ridge]

Hmm

[warped fox]

There seems to be a few floating about, and the one I havae has a ton of mods that come with it

like that lighting engine etc

[royal ridge]

I've downloaded it from a pirated site so idk actually

[warped fox]

lol, great 😄

[royal ridge]

Yeah cuz steam version does not working for me

[warped fox]

mine boots up, but crashes in game

[royal ridge]

I've disabled everything

[royal ridge]

Are you sure you have the old game?

[warped fox]

Yea, 2004

[royal ridge]

disable all the mods

Idk

[warped fox]

I have to find the right SADX first

[royal ridge]

I can send you an exe file

[warped fox]

I think mine is non US, which is a problem I ran into before

[royal ridge]

But idk how it will work for you, cuz my pirated version comes with a Russian garbage translation

[warped fox]

oof, not touching that lol

[royal ridge]

Mine is not US too

[warped fox]

alright there's one on nexusmods, which should be clean

[royal ridge]

Hope it'll work

[warped fox]

this look about right?

[royal ridge]

Yeah

Try to find original 2003 US exe file

I have it already

Found on the internet

But didn't tested

[warped fox]

I'll dig around

[royal ridge]

Maybe it'll work

I can send you my files if you ask

But tomorrow

[warped fox]

I may do if I can't find it

I knew this shit would happen

[royal ridge]

Oh yeah

That means that Im using that US version from the internet

They're not answering, busy shoes

[warped fox]

?

[royal ridge]

That's the guys who's able to run sadx with rtx remix

[warped fox]

Oh right

Yea I saw that one video on youtube, I'm jealous lol

[royal ridge]

But as always, you cant get an answer from the popular guys

That's just one of the universe rules

[warped fox]

I think it's because a ton of people bug them, been there man, it's not fun

[royal ridge]

Yeah, probably

But they're not responding to the yt comments too

💀

[warped fox]

lol, of course

[royal ridge]

There's 5~6 comments only bro

💀

[warped fox]

Oh wait, the SADX mod installer has an option to downgrade to the 2004 version

[royal ridge]

Oh yeah?

[warped fox]

Could try that

[royal ridge]

Try that

I'm interested

Thanks man

[warped fox]

Getting that stupid bug where the mouse isn't displaying where it should be

can't remember how to fix it

[warped fox]

I'm so fecking close, I can see the raaaaaaaaaays

I just need this damn mouse to play ball with me

[royal ridge]

Yeah same thing

[warped fox]

Using the downgrade works btw

I had it somewhat working, had to plug in the sky texture, it didn't look very good, but it was definitely ray traced

I'm gonna try and use that portal mod with RTX, use the rtx files from that, see what happens

I really want this to work, if you can't tell XD

[royal ridge]

Does anyone tried to use rtx remix with any emulator?

[barren lichen]

yes

most of them do not work

but one xbox emulator works

i'll show you

[royal ridge]

hmm

interesting

[barren lichen]

@royal ridge

#game-compatibility message

CXBX-Reloaded, pixel shaders disabled (CXBX hack setting), rtx.conf file with vertex shaders enabled

[royal ridge]

loool

[royal ridge]

Here's my files

[royal ridge]

@barren lichen @warped fox SORRY FOR PING BUT

And working denoiser

YEAH!

[barren lichen]

👀

nice progress dude

Love it

❤️

[royal ridge]

thanks

the denoiser now works as it should

and everything is ray traced

on the latest rtx-remix btw

and i think it hooks the lights cuz light is spawns in really strange places

like in source games

i need to try and take a capture

[royal ridge]

i've installed a modern sonic mod

if all goes well i'll upscale and generate pbr textures

this models too high poly

it lags

[warped fox]

So what was your workflow this time?

@royal ridge sorry to ping, but you must share your secrets! Lol

[royal ridge]

yeah

ok install the old rtx-remix

is it installed for you?

[warped fox]

Yea think so

[royal ridge]

download my config

use it

and then

download the latest rtx-remix version via exe file

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1132988164814934167

[warped fox]

Will do, anything else?

[royal ridge]

but do not install it

[royal ridge]

yes

dont touch it

[warped fox]

I don't understand, what use does downloading but not using it do? Loo

Lol*

[royal ridge]

wait pls

im busy rn

fooof

i can talk now

[royal ridge]

OK

now open the .trex folder

in the sadx

and in the latest rtx-remix

and drag
d3d9.dll
GFSDK_Aftermath_Lib.x64.dll
rtxio.dll
NvLowLatencyVk.dll
NRD.dll

from the NEW to the old trex folder

and try to launch the game

[barren lichen]

Can you make gold rings reflective

[royal ridge]

i'll try

nah captured dds are broken

[warped fox]

Dude that's sick

[barren lichen]

Someday.... This grass texture will be an actual foliage (billboard textures)

[warped fox]

Definitely doable

unfortunately, the game will always be a buggy mess underneath

but it'll be the prettiest buggiest mess ever

[warped fox]

very pretty

alright, time to reinstall and start from scratch

This is still the 2003(4?) version though right? @royal ridge

[royal ridge]

yeah

[warped fox]

Ok, I'm going to try to downgrade route, since that did work for me somewhat

[warped fox]

Damn...

Stop teasing me dude

This is working really well

[royal ridge]

it is not, there's alot of glitches

but i think it is possible to beat the game like that

like yeah

[warped fox]

Yea but I'm sure those could be fixed, I wonder if texture replacement would work here

I'll try once I get it working

[royal ridge]

idk

but you can't capture them

[warped fox]

Oh

Need to nudge Nvidia to fix it XD

This would be huge for the Sonic fans

[royal ridge]

hell i need the texture replacements

that will be fire

broken sand

[warped fox]

Are you still using the DXwrapper yea?

[royal ridge]

yea

OH BRO

i found a better solution

[warped fox]

This guy...

you're a machine lol

[royal ridge]

just drag and drop everything what's inside new rtx-remix .trex fodler to the old

EXCEPT

for the NvRemixBridge.exe

this may sound stupid

but it works

and even fps is higher

lol

[warped fox]

??

alrighty then

[royal ridge]

but all the glitches still appears

[warped fox]

Ok, so wrapper, old RTX from portal, replace .trex with new

except that exe

[royal ridge]

yes

and here you go

[warped fox]

ok cool, I'll give it a shot

[royal ridge]

gotta go faest

[warped fox]

Faest

[royal ridge]

yes

i typed like that specially

[warped fox]

Wish we had engine level access

[royal ridge]

yeah

[warped fox]

Mods would be insane

[royal ridge]

i've already searched for decompiled sadx

but no luck

noone did it

[warped fox]

oh well

[barren lichen]

But rtx remix is still from portal, only bridge is new

Old renderer

[royal ridge]

yes

and it works better

lol

without black things around

[warped fox]

It's better than nothing right now

I'm sure some smart egg will figure out how to make it work with the new one eventually, or we'll just have to wait

[royal ridge]

not absolutely new

everything is replaced except for old bridge files that has a different names

and NvRemixBridge.exe

[warped fox]

progress!

[royal ridge]

how's it?

[warped fox]

well it works, but it's noisy as hell

[royal ridge]

enable the denoiser

[warped fox]

it's enabled

[royal ridge]

and enable this stuff

[warped fox]

Oh wait, no it wasn't

lol, why was it off by default? weird

[royal ridge]

idk

[warped fox]

strange

[royal ridge]

maybe my config file

[warped fox]

Fixed the mouse issue as well

with rtx menu

[barren lichen]

Damn. Pointy boobs lol

Reminds me of Lara croft

[royal ridge]

yeah

[warped fox]

I upped the metalness, as that gives a more accurate representation of the textures

my shadows aren't sharp like yours though

[royal ridge]

yaaay it works

[royal ridge]

did you checked the option i said to check?

[royal ridge]

here

[warped fox]

Ahem...

Capturing works

[royal ridge]

wow

it does not for me

[warped fox]

That's interesting.

[royal ridge]

check if the textures a ok

cuz for me they're broken

[warped fox]

They look garbled yea

[royal ridge]

i mean i can't even open them

[warped fox]

Lots of glitches like this

[royal ridge]

woow

[warped fox]

so bugged lol

[royal ridge]

yes

can you open it?

[warped fox]

yes

looks like a little robot head

[royal ridge]

show me please

[royal ridge]

i can't 💀

[warped fox]

I have to scale these images way up

[royal ridge]

WOOW wtf

[warped fox]

I use Irfanview with a .DDS plugin

[warped fox]

That sounds like a write access problem

[royal ridge]

yeah

[warped fox]

Maybe install it else where?

or move it if you can

should be able to

[royal ridge]

nope does not work

[warped fox]

Damn that's strange

[royal ridge]

yeah

well, i'm glad that it works, even if it does not take a captures

they're broken as hell

upscaling looks goood

but artifacts are

just

yeah

[barren lichen]

what in the lord's name is that

this is going to give me nightmares lol

[royal ridge]

fac e

yeah i thought the same when i saw it for the first time

thanks rtx-remix capturing

[barren lichen]

looks like some demon that enters your dream

[royal ridge]

yeah

[warped fox]

For me personally, since I'll be making textures from scratch, this is probably a non issue, since it will most likely use new assets fine

at least, that's the dream

[barren lichen]

yeah

[warped fox]

as long as I can decipher what the textures are, making new ones shouldn't be a problem

[barren lichen]

use new textures or the orginal source textures

[royal ridge]

Oh that's amazing

Yaay, we finally able to do something with sadx

[warped fox]

why is Shreks eye lash in this game?

[royal ridge]

hahaha

[warped fox]

Love that we have motion blur now 😄

Interestingly, when capturing, Sonic turns into Shadow, somehow

[barren lichen]

Should add these problems or update them in the sadx GitHub issue

[warped fox]

Why SADX? I'm not sure they would even care since it's RTX

[barren lichen]

I don't get your point

I'm saying we (or Alex) should update the GitHub issue on rtx remix

[warped fox]

Oh, yea you said SadX github

which is why I was confused

Alright. time to see if I can replace textures, regardless of how messed up they look, I'm hoping it should be doable

[royal ridge]

I'm so glad that we're now able to run sadx with rtx remix

God

[warped fox]

Texture replacement works, but it still suffers from UV problems

it's also way darker than it should be, but that's just a setting I need to change somewhere

Shiny rings

Glowy shiny rings

Perfect time to try mesh replacement, these rings need more polygons!

[royal ridge]

Exactly

[warped fox]

Oh then again, Not sure I'd be able to, since they're all classed as different meshes, it's not a simple mesh swap.

[barren lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

more shiny wen

[warped fox]

here's a nice low poly bird for you

with water that's lava

apparently

[barren lichen]

more like blood

[warped fox]

yea kinda 😛

[barren lichen]

giving it sonic.exe vibe

[royal ridge]

That's actually a sonic.exe

File

[warped fox]

Can anyone remember which format to use for roughness maps?

[royal ridge]

Dds

[warped fox]

Yea, which one though, BC5 , 7 etc

I remember the texture as basically all red channel

[barren lichen]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1111273025657114654 @warped fox

[warped fox]

Oof perfect, thanks

BC4, that's what I need

I'm a bit rusty if you couldn't tell

[warped fox]

New shiny rings

Really wish the map uv's weren't getting all screwy

[royal ridge]

Yeah exactly

[warped fox]

I wonder if replacing the mesh with itself may fix it

[royal ridge]

Hmm that's an idea

But it already has a good uv but it broken out in some places

And sometimes works so

[warped fox]

It's angle dependent I've noticed, if I look out to sea, sometimes it pops into place, it looks great then

[royal ridge]

Maybe we will find a solution someday

I'll try to play with the settings tomorrow

Maybe it'll work

Woah I can't wait to see the sadx with a HQ models

[barren lichen]

@copper copper all the progress is here

[barren lichen]

can we replace the tree?

[warped fox]

Can replace anything at this point

[barren lichen]

i would love a nice palm tree

that's detailed

surely omniverse has a plugin for that

right?

[warped fox]

Maybe, but I'd go for megascans if anything

that or make my own

[barren lichen]

would be interesting to see a megascan

what do you want to replace first from the scene?

obv can't do sonic cuz skinned mesh geometry

no support for that yet

[warped fox]

I already replaced the rings, aren't you happy? XD

job done, I'm going home

LOL

[barren lichen]

its in my name

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-six-going-dark-captain-price-call-of-duty-modern-warefare-gif-18648667

[royal ridge]

How to replace the mesh?

[barren lichen]

idk, use the omniverse tool i think

@royal ridge
https://github.com/Ekozmaster/NvidiaOmniverseRTXRemixTools

this lets you replace mesh

[royal ridge]

Ugh

Don't want to use omniverse

Ok, I think it's time to make a tool for that also

[royal ridge]

I've actually messed up already with different model formats reading

In the past when I've worked on 3D game engine on opengl

[barren lichen]

With omniverse?

[royal ridge]

By hands bro

On C++

[royal ridge]

Reading the vertices positions, how they're connected and uv maps

[barren lichen]

I'm not that technical lol

[royal ridge]

Amazing

[royal ridge]

I mean, if I dig deeper, maybe I'll find a way to convert the captured objects to fbx or mdl and then back

To make life for modders easier

[barren lichen]

Ummmm....this is very big claim

[royal ridge]

Like, that's much easier to load a script that will do it's stuff

And then edit it with blender

And write back

Like with OctoTex

[warped fox]

So pretty

[royal ridge]

Actually yeah, but why not to try

[royal ridge]

Try to disable the foam texture

In the remix menu

If it's possible of course

[warped fox]

stumpy refracted legs

I don't think there's an option for that, is there?

[royal ridge]

I'm freaking love this

[royal ridge]

You can select a texture and set it to ignore

Like a sky, or particle

But there's an ignore option

[barren lichen]

Nice 👍

[warped fox]

Those are separetely UV'd meshes, can't just switch it off I'm afraid

[royal ridge]

Wait

But I've disabled a shadow mesh under the objects

Why you can't disable the foam that way?

The foam on a separate mesh too so

[warped fox]

This line here?

[royal ridge]

Ooooh, water doesn't align with the ground

That's a shame

[warped fox]

It does intersect, what's happening here is my new texture is clashing with the old coast texture

so it looks a bit rough

patience though 😄

[barren lichen]

@warped fox can you capture sonic?

I mean the textures of him

[warped fox]

Yes

Good fucking lord

[barren lichen]

It's all path traced?

👀

[warped fox]

Well, It's remix, whatever it's using lol

but yea, reflections are great

[barren lichen]

I mean, are the water bodies reflecting the actual sky?

[warped fox]

Yes

it looks glorious

I'll make a short video

[barren lichen]

can you make sonic eyes reflective?

Lol

[warped fox]

Yes probably lol

Ugh, guess I need to sub to nitro, I'm nto messing about with youtube, hang on

I was playing with a keyboard, so ignore my shitty gameplay, although to be fair, the game is notoriously shit to control

[royal ridge]

That's fire bro

🔥

[barren lichen]

indeed 🔥

[royal ridge]

We need to fix capturing and uv maps

And the game will be fire

[warped fox]

I wish it was simple lol

[royal ridge]

Probably

I wish too

[warped fox]

We need to get remix working for this in general, since it's kind of a hacky way we got it working

[royal ridge]

Btw what is your GPU?

[warped fox]

4080

[royal ridge]

Ooh

Amazing

[warped fox]

It's slow at 4k due to omniverse and other stuff running in the background

It's very smooth without that stuff running though

[royal ridge]

O didn't tried it on windows

For me it lags in some places for no reason

[warped fox]

What do you mean?

[boreal niche]

Are you on win 11 ?

[warped fox]

Yea

[boreal niche]

If so you can suspend the kit.exe process

via task manager

[royal ridge]

When sonic spawns, that place is dropping an fps for me, if I run forward in just about ~50cm it works fine

I meant that

[warped fox]

Oh ok, what gpu?

[royal ridge]

RTX 3080, but I'm playing on Linux through proton

[boreal niche]

This will prevent it from running the renderer on the gpu

[warped fox]

Hmm

[royal ridge]

And my CPU is kinda cringe for this gpu

[warped fox]

you may lose performance with all the magic going on in the background

lots of translation going on with proton right?

[royal ridge]

Probably

I think so

[boreal niche]

Forgot proton is just wine + dxvk 😄

[warped fox]

Perhaps, I'm not too familiar with it, other than my Steam Deck

[lavish frigate]

Sorry to barge in here, but I believe a number of issues have been fixed for this title in the latest Remix binaries for bridge/dxvk. I posted a comment on the bug specifying which actions to use: https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/241

[royal ridge]

Kinda hate windows so

[warped fox]

!!

[boreal niche]

Thanks for the hard work! ❤️

[warped fox]

Dude, man I hope this works, thanks for pointing it out

[royal ridge]

Here we go

The Alex goes brrrrrr

Thanks man ❤️

[warped fox]

Do I need to compile those myself?

Because, uhhh

I don't know how

lol

[royal ridge]

It compiles itself on the git

I think

We need to wait till the build is finished

[boreal niche]

No just use the https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1132988164814934167 once it compiles on the github

[royal ridge]

Oh yeah I forgot

That's much better solution

[lavish frigate]

I believe the builds have finished, so you should be good to go.

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/6100037649
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/actions/runs/6099434198

[royal ridge]

Ugh I'm not on my PC, waiting for others to try it

😭

[warped fox]

I wish github was simple with downloads

I'm crap with coding stuff

[royal ridge]

It isn't? 💀

[boreal niche]

@royal ridge The downloader is a compiled python script so you should be able to run it from the source

[warped fox]

I'm not technically minded

[royal ridge]

I can with exe file

[warped fox]

ARtisticly yes, but not technical lol

[royal ridge]

Im running a proton from steam with alias in my bash

[boreal niche]

That build is finished hours ago

[warped fox]

I cry

[boreal niche]

@warped fox Use this, it is simple as double clicking it https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1132988164814934167

[royal ridge]

Yeah use that tool

[boreal niche]

boom you get the latest builds

[warped fox]

I do have it somewhere, hang tight

[royal ridge]

Shit I want try this so bad

I hate the difference in timezones

💀

[boreal niche]

We need a concave earth

[royal ridge]

Yeah

Ok if it's gonna work, I will upscale the whole game tomorrow

[warped fox]

Way ahead of you XD

Actually, I think we'll end up with two very different versions

[royal ridge]

Combine our work

[warped fox]

so this exe only downloads remix, what about dxvk etc?

[royal ridge]

That too

It just combines everything

[warped fox]

I don't see a .dll for it

[royal ridge]

So no headache

[royal ridge]

It creates a folder with everything

As I remember

And .trex also

[royal ridge]

Inside that folder

[warped fox]

that's all I get with it

I don't see DXVK

[royal ridge]

Yeah and that's all

[warped fox]

Oh

[royal ridge]

Just copy everything

[warped fox]

Alright, wish me luck lol

[royal ridge]

Wish u luck 🍀

Luck for every sonic fan

Moment of truth

[warped fox]

Well, it works

no changes with the UV's though

[royal ridge]

Did you copied everything?

[warped fox]

Yep

[royal ridge]

Oh, on other hand we now have a latest rtx remix version working

[warped fox]

everything except for the bridge.conf, because I have it set up the way that works really well

true

Feel like I should do a fresh install though

so much left over mess

[royal ridge]

Fresh install again?

[warped fox]

yea

[royal ridge]

Waait

Try to capture

[warped fox]

oh yea

2 secs

[royal ridge]

Yup

Oh btw

I remember

[warped fox]

well, didn't crash lol

[royal ridge]

I had this problem with uv maps in Gmod

When used an old portal rtx files

Just like in sonic

Maybe the latest version in fresh install will work

[royal ridge]

That's a progress

[warped fox]

it's still broken

I think I need to do a fresh install

only way to see if this is actually working and not using old file?

which file remembers all of your texture selections etc/

was it rtx.conf?

[royal ridge]

I can't remember

[barren lichen]

What CPU

[royal ridge]

I5 9400f

[warped fox]

That's not too bad is it?

[royal ridge]

I think the newer CPU is gonna be better

[warped fox]

I use a 12600k, no complaints

[barren lichen]

Enough for BvH geometry cache

[royal ridge]

And that's PC at my work btw

On the home PC I have i5 3570

[warped fox]

Ok that's painful XD

before this one, I had a 5820k it was seriously showing it's age with the newer gfx cards

[barren lichen]

I have a 10400f

No gpu currently

Simple display adapter

For display lol

[royal ridge]

GPU is mine but everything else is not

So I need to build a PC around that GPU for home use

[warped fox]

So I wanted to try the steam version clean, doesn't boot

it's trying but the game isn't loading

[lavish frigate]

I believe the steam version works, but only with SADX and by setting the graphics quality setting to lowest

[royal ridge]

Steam version is a port of a port of a port

So

[warped fox]

Ok, I'l try with SadX then

I was more curious than anything lol

[lavish frigate]

As far as I could tell, the difference between steam and CD (with regards to d3d9 usage) is steam removed the quality setting which works with remix, and so it's only shaders

[royal ridge]

Yeah

[warped fox]

Ok, so it's probably worth doing the 2003 downgrade still then

[royal ridge]

The sadx 2003 has no graphics settings too

If I remember correctly

[lavish frigate]

I'm looking at this bit:

[warped fox]

works

just works right off the bat

[lavish frigate]

The following 3 issues should be fixed:

• Crashing
• Stretched textures/UVs
• Sky rendering black

Let me know if you find something different

[warped fox]

absolutely fixed yes

Good work guys, really happy

[boreal niche]

Does it fix the sky not being visible to reflection & refractions?

[warped fox]

now to re apply all my changes XD

I have noticed the sky is moving though

I know it moves with the character, but when you jump, it rotates

is that normal behavior? I can't remember

[lavish frigate]

Ok, I can see what thats about...

[warped fox]

Yea it kind of rotates around where it's mostly supposed to be static

It is attached to the character, if that helps

[royal ridge]

That's amazing, it works

[warped fox]

it's supposed to be

[royal ridge]

Copies the character position and rotation

[warped fox]

shouldn't be rotating like this though

[royal ridge]

Yeah

[warped fox]

I'll have a tinker though

[royal ridge]

Love the days when I played sadx and watching how sky is rotating with my character

[barren lichen]

Maybe with the original game it was not noticeable

Sky remains the same wherever you look, right?

[warped fox]

I think it's just rtx makes it way more visible lol

[boreal niche]

disable world transforms, it might help

[warped fox]

It's a very small skydome, and the meshes behind it are showing through, giving a very weird illusion

tried that, I think it just needs to be scaled way up

[boreal niche]

Don't worry you can put a new skydome just like tadpole did with the chess titans

[warped fox]

This isn't something that they can fix on their end, it's up to us really

Yea we can just scale it way up, infinite view distance lol

[barren lichen]

Exactly

It's a mesh replacement

[warped fox]

Shame fog doesn't work and stuff

[barren lichen]

Adding your own skydome

[boreal niche]

Is legacy fog remap on?

[warped fox]

is that a remix option??

[boreal niche]

It should be under volumetrics

I don't remember the exact path

[warped fox]

I can't even find that, was looking for it earler

[boreal niche]

Gotta take a screen hold on

[warped fox]

GOT IT

thanks

[warped fox]

yea, changing the settings doesn't do much though

[boreal niche]

Try to adjust transmittance distance

lower it's value

these

[warped fox]

ugh, it's not recognising my keyboard inputs..

it does this now and again, so frustrating

[boreal niche]

Mouse doesn't work?

[warped fox]

mouse does fine, but it's slow lol

[boreal niche]

Hmm so you are one of those keyboard guys 🙂

[royal ridge]

One of those? 💀

[warped fox]

I like to input exact numbers, sue me XD

[royal ridge]

Sounds frustrating

[royal ridge]

Same thing

For me it triples all the values I type

And only in sadx for whatever reason

[boreal niche]

Those who uses vim keybinds to navigate through browser

[royal ridge]

Nah :q! please

[boreal niche]

Those who never lift their hands off the keyboard

live with the keyboard

[warped fox]

ok, this game currently needs a view distance of 670 for the size of the skydome

[boreal niche]

die with the keyboard

[warped fox]

looks fine now

[boreal niche]

become one with your keyboard

[royal ridge]

Or is this vi?

I forgot

[royal ridge]

Become keyboard 💀

Detroit: become keyboard

[warped fox]

You guys need to get on this shit

it's really good

[royal ridge]

You mean the game?

[boreal niche]

I don't have the game :/

[warped fox]

yea lol

[royal ridge]

Yeah ik

I'll try tomorrow

[warped fox]

Do you have steam? @boreal niche

[royal ridge]

betterSADX can downgrade the game btw?

[warped fox]

Yep

that's what I did

[royal ridge]

Or is it sadx mod loader?

[warped fox]

works a treat

it's the mod loader

[royal ridge]

I'll do that

[warped fox]

it looks like that

[royal ridge]

Okie dokie

Gosh I'm glad that it works now

[warped fox]

I'm gonna be up all night with this shit, I can feel it lol

[royal ridge]

Try to take a capture!!

[warped fox]

Oh yea

[royal ridge]

I'm fully understanding you

Love sonic games

They are shit probably

But I love them

[warped fox]

Exactly lol

this one is the shittest, but the bestest

[royal ridge]

Exactly

[warped fox]

capturing still needs work

BUT, we can replace textures regardless

[royal ridge]

Rtx remix has built-in function to transform sadx into sonic.exe

I like it

[warped fox]

This is your next job @lavish frigate XD

I kid, really good work, appreciate it

gonna make a lot of Sanic fans happy

[royal ridge]

I'm happy already

[warped fox]

Time to reapply my changes

hopefully it's just a straight port lol

[royal ridge]

I've played every sonic game btw

Even sonic Spinball

[warped fox]

great game

classic

[royal ridge]

Chaotix

All the hedgehogs

[warped fox]

I read a bunch of Archie comics back in the day

All the lore

[royal ridge]

Even 06 on the emulator

But never touched unleashed

[royal ridge]

Broo

I think the most crindgy games is heroes and maybe shadow she hedgehog

But I like the animations from Shadow the hedgehog

[warped fox]

Silver...

[royal ridge]

It's no use

[warped fox]

I fucking hated that character so much

just adding more hedgehogs for the sake of it

I will say though, I enjoyed the movies, they were fun

[royal ridge]

I enjoyed walking on the walls

That was fun

Oh those insanely speed levels

With unstoppable sonic

I actually played some acts of unleashed on xenia

I like it

And the movies are good

Gosh I didn't talk about sonic for ages

[warped fox]

lol

Ok I need to start again, it's using old data and it's broken the uv's again

not a problem though

[royal ridge]

Oh

[warped fox]

Just need to do a new mod etc

[lavish frigate]

Interesting! I have an idea, but not sure when I will get to it

[warped fox]

Lol, no rush, texture/model swapping is possible regardless

just hard to visualise stuff like this is all

[royal ridge]

Yeah

No rush

You did an amazing job

[warm notch]

Maaan, that is so cool. So the steam version is working, with better SADX and graphics to lowest?

[warped fox]

Yep

[warm notch]

I wanna try it so much. What I need?

[warped fox]

ok, steam version to start, then you need the SadX installer

[warm notch]

I already have the game with better sadx installed and at lowest, + latest dxvk + bridge

[warped fox]

go through the installation and you'll come across a point where it gives you a few options, Steam to 2004 is what you want

[warm notch]

Oh, ok

steam to 2004 is what I'm missing

[warped fox]

I tink for best compatability you'd best use that, although I don't think it's a requirement

Maybe try the dreamcast one

[warm notch]

Well, I managed to boot into the game and first cutscene, though its all black

[warped fox]

try 2004 downgrade then

[warm notch]

Maybe next comes the mods folder

[royal ridge]

Download the latest remix

[warped fox]

oh yea

lol

[royal ridge]

And disable lantern engine

Cuz it uses shaders

[warm notch]

Could you guys share the rtx.conf + mods folder you're using?

[royal ridge]

Ask Kiory

[warped fox]

Hmm, I would but my rtx config is using a bunch of assets you don't have now

[royal ridge]

Cuz I have no access to the pc

[warped fox]

I'll get the bridge though

hang on

[warm notch]

U mean, mod.usda?

[warped fox]

the rtx config refrences custom meshes and textures and stuff, right?

I'm not sure if it would play well if you don't have those assets

[royal ridge]

USDA references

Not the rtx.conf

[warped fox]

oh so it shouldn't matter?

[royal ridge]

Yeah probably

[warm notch]

Yeah, rtx.conf shoud work on its own, and is important for me 👉 👈

[warped fox]

well I'm started fresh anyways, so there's nothing t here that would break anything

Barely tagged any textures in there lol

[royal ridge]

Now we need ray reconstruction

[warped fox]

hells yes

gimme

[royal ridge]

Gimme too

[warm notch]

Oh maan, that is beautiful

[warped fox]

So the uv's break when swapping out textures

[warm notch]

Here I categorized a bunch of UI textures as well as the sky textures for the first fight scene agains chaos

[warped fox]

I fucking hate that

I really hate that song

[royal ridge]

Hahaha

[warm notch]

Well, I added the car reflection texture as sky texture by accident I guess

[royal ridge]

Why?

I like vitas

[warped fox]

Lol, I just can't stand it

[royal ridge]

Hehehe

[warped fox]

I feel like it's better if sky textures are added as Wolrdpsace ui

They're reflected then

[royal ridge]

The sky option is not reflected property?

[warped fox]

Yea they don't reflect at all

[royal ridge]

But the thing is that the worldspace UI is emitting light

[warped fox]

Nah

[royal ridge]

Does it affects the shadows?

[warped fox]

works fine

[royal ridge]

Hmm

[warped fox]

unfortunately yes, don't know if there's a way to disable that

would be nice if not

I'm gonna try and scale it out

Remix really doesn't like referencing meshes it's captured itself

Like, I want to increase the size of the skydome, so I do the whole xform trick, but reference the captured model, but it's not visible lol

[warm notch]

Hmmm its not ideal to do that at all, specially if you want to share your mod with someone else. Can't trust the state of the captures/* folder at all.
On the toolkit I added an option to right click a mesh and "Setup for Mesh Replacement" which does exactly what you want

There is also a known bug with textures marked as Sky not being replaceable. We struggled with that in U2 and decided to unmark them to replace with an emissive huge default sphere mesh

The sky dome in this game is actually pretty much identical to U2's

[warped fox]

Hmm

The map will require a considerate amount of work to make this look decent, there's a reason they had a tiny sky dome

It only shows up if I mark it as sky, but it is bigger lol

Ideally, I want it to show up as worldspace ui

so it reflects

No dice so far

[warm notch]

I'd like to see this reflection issue a bit. There's got be a way to workaround it, as marking it as sky should be the way to go while we don't replace it with actual HDRI meshes

I managed to get the game really good looking with those settings, specially for color

[warped fox]

Ideally yea, maybe they can add a checkbox to add it to a reflection buffer or something

[warm notch]

Honestly, I don't understand why this happens, ppl on GMOD have been having this issue too AFAIK. It is just a light ray bouncing off of a surface and hitting the sky mesh. Maybe the engine isn't counting secondary+ rays when they miss the scene

How did you get the reflections on water again?

[warped fox]

I think it's ignoring it entirely

I set the sky texture as a worldspace UI texture

it's much nicer

[warm notch]

I mean, the water surface itself

For me it is just

[warped fox]

Oh, well yea I set it as a translucent material and added a quickly made normal map