Team Fortress 2

[blazing torrent]

i think in this build they're pretty much only used by the developer commentary

if sdk 2013 dedicated server supports sourcemod there might be a plugin to make them work

[restive jasper]

also a question

do i need any patches for the server?

[blazing torrent]

no

we would only need them if the server had checksums for dlls and wouldn't let us connect, but it seems like sdk 2013 doesn't do this

[restive jasper]

even with sv_pure it seems to work

[scenic belfry]

ah there is no tf_bot cmnd in the 2007 version, the single bot command is for puppet bots that do nothing

[blazing torrent]

pure doesnt enforce dll checksums

[restive jasper]

*2008

[blazing torrent]

huh aren't we 2007?

we dont have airblast or any items

[scenic belfry]

well the bot stuff is early in 2009 build of tf2

[blazing torrent]

ah early 2008

[hard ginkgo]

Looks good

[restive jasper]

can i have this config?

[restive jasper]

i'll be working on multiplayer now

i also found this: https://github.com/horiuchii/TF2-Base-Stripped

and this: https://github.com/Juesto/Prime-Fortress-2

[restive jasper]

look beautiful

how many IPs should i get for the server? (1-4)

lol

[restive jasper]

not the newest software

fast boi

[restive jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-team-fortress2-talking-spin-gif-17497798

[small wadi]

not quite it ...

[restive jasper]

how is it running in 64 bits?

[small wadi]

not very well

[restive jasper]

but how?

[small wadi]

There's a 64bit branch?

[restive jasper]

is it modern tf2?

[small wadi]

yeah

[restive jasper]

then i have no questions

[small wadi]

Trying to fix the vertex size 0 issue but having to get a little creative with the patch this time.

[small wadi]

yeah nvm the 64bit branch is just constant vertex explosions

[restive jasper]

i think it would be easier instead of copying the entire tf_port folder to sourcemods to just disable vac

it won't do anything either way

[small wadi]

? you can just do -insecure

[restive jasper]

that's what i'm talking about

[small wadi]

what is this even in response to

[restive jasper]

joining servers easier

if someone wants to cheat they can just ignore wall textures

vac won't do anything

the server is online

[latent pulsar]

its vulkan

[small wadi]

I was running it with Remix

[latent pulsar]

i think...

nvm

the main selling point was that its vulkan

[latent pulsar]

how bad is it

[small wadi]

menu has vertex explosions, usual zero size vertex crash, code gen for that was pretty different and there was little to no space to put a patch in, and even with patch 2fort was still just vertex explosions

oh and it loads d3d9.dll from where the .exe is and not the bin\x64 folder

[latent pulsar]

every gmod server i join has massive fucking vertex explosions

especially ui

[small wadi]

@blazing torrent Added generic patcher to https://github.com/BlueAmulet/SourceRTXTweaks/blob/main/applypatch.py
Works against GMod, SDK2013 SP/MP, TF2-Base, Modern TF2, HL1s, HL2, Portal 1, CSS, and DoD

[scenic belfry]

;OOOO CSSSSS

and DODS ;O

[hard ginkgo]

MODERN TF2?

im trying out rg

[tiny bay]

goat

[scenic belfry]

ahhhhhh it wrks in CSS!!!!

NO MORE CULLING

[hard ginkgo]

i get black screen in tf2

[small wadi]

Run with -novid

[scenic belfry]

thank u so much finally the culling was taking my insanity

[hard ginkgo]

it still being black...

OH WAIT

i always forget about dxvk

let me see if it works if i add that

[scenic belfry]

ah the dxvk.conf

[hard ginkgo]

nope..

still black screen

i hear the menu sounds

[small wadi]

black screens on dxlevel 90, I've been testing on -dxlevel 70

[hard ginkgo]

are you using any launch options?

[small wadi]

-dxlevel 70 -insecure -novid -game tf

[hard ginkgo]

its weird..it still happening even whit all of that

when i force it to load a map

it still being black

[latent pulsar]

shader model 0

[hard ginkgo]

I did that-

[latent pulsar]

@small wadi

does modern tf2 still require a shader model?

[blazing torrent]

no it runs in fixed function

makes sure its 0 in the dxvk conf file

[latent pulsar]

send screenshot

[blazing torrent]

bruh all of my posts when i first opened this channel have been in fixed function

[hard ginkgo]

Help me

:(

[blazing torrent]

lol i havent tried the new patcher yet, im just saying modern tf2 fixed function works lol

[hard ginkgo]

A

[blazing torrent]

ill try it in a sec

[hard ginkgo]

Okay

I want to know if it's my game or not

[small wadi]

oh, yeah it is just solid black screen without d3d9.shaderModel = 0 as well

[hard ginkgo]

I did that already btw

[blazing torrent]

yeah thats normal behavior iirc

[small wadi]

Send your hl2_d3d9.log

[hard ginkgo]

Sure.

[blazing torrent]

hmm mine crashes to desktop after loading the main meny

but no black screen

i would assume it needs the portal rtx dlls but those dont work here iirc?

[small wadi]

I haven't been using those

[blazing torrent]

yeah i thought so, as i said iirc this branch of source doesnt work with them anyway

you get some kind of error on startup

but i can try again i guess

yea this

[hard ginkgo]

what the

[small wadi]

hmm, and with which portal rtx dlls?

[blazing torrent]

these, they prevent shader crashes in gmod and sdk 2013

they're pretty much required for most maps and particles

[hard ginkgo]

Cr

[blazing torrent]

?

[hard ginkgo]

you use those for sdk 2013?

[blazing torrent]

its in the guide lol, its what makes the game stable

its the same as gmod

[hard ginkgo]

if i apply those to tf2 it just straight crashes

but if i dont it opens normally whit a black screen

[blazing torrent]

im talking with the tf2 port

not modern

[hard ginkgo]

oh

forget what i say then-

[blazing torrent]

as i said modern tf2's engine branch probably a bit far off from the others

[hard ginkgo]

btw

i got the log

[small wadi]

I wonder why I've never had to use them for any source game including gmod, I only needed the 2 patches to shaderapidx9 to stop it from crashing on menu and maps

[blazing torrent]

odd, its been in the gmod pinned guide for a while and the tf2 port crashes on most maps without it

[small wadi]

You don't have d3d9.shaderModel = 0 set

[blazing torrent]

you can reproduct the crash in gmod by firing a rpg or grenade in a map that works

[hard ginkgo]

but i have it..

[small wadi]

"No config file found at: dxvk.conf"

[blazing torrent]

if it doesnt happen anymore then i guess the guide needs to be updated

[small wadi]

will try

[hard ginkgo]

OH HELL

DONT TELL ME

ITS BECAUSE I PUT .CFG

INSTEAD OF CONF

im stupid asf

sorry

let me see if it works now

OK

NOW IT WORKS

GOOD

[blazing torrent]

are you able to make it to the menu?, i just crash after loading lol (before the portal dll replacements)

[small wadi]

Crashes in vstdlib, interesting

[hard ginkgo]

i haven't joined a game yet

[hard ginkgo]

also yes

[blazing torrent]

how are you able to tell? do you have debug headers?

[small wadi]

You don't need .pdb files for a debugger to point out which module crashed

[blazing torrent]

ah

[hard ginkgo]

OMG

[blazing torrent]

guess ill verify game integrity and try again

[hard ginkgo]

CR

[blazing torrent]

it works i assume? lol

[hard ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/enricopucci-happy-happy-enrico-pucci-jojo-made-in-heaven-jojo-gif-26801198

it crash.

[blazing torrent]

oh

try my simple rtx map

[hard ginkgo]

i will

[small wadi]

For whatever it's worth I've been testing by loading into ctf_2fort via console

[hard ginkgo]

oh

[blazing torrent]

yeah my launch params also have 2fort

[hard ginkgo]

what the hell

yea

it crashes when i tried to load 2fort

im going to try cr map and see if for some reason works-

[blazing torrent]

it usually does lol, its what i used the last time i got fixed function working

its so simple that i guess it doesnt have any shader related issues

just dont select a class

go into spectator

[latent pulsar]

nice textures

[hard ginkgo]

it loads

[blazing torrent]

shader issues it is then ig

[hard ginkgo]

and yes u right

[latent pulsar]

screendshot

[hard ginkgo]

it crashes when selecting a class

[latent pulsar]

rip

[blazing torrent]

yep same issue for over a year

[hard ginkgo]

also we cant join normal maps like 2fort and stuff

atleast we have the culling fix

now its to make it playable-

[blazing torrent]

the portal dlls usually fix the map issues but as i said they dont work in this branch at the moment

i say that because its the same issue on the tf2 sdk 2013 port

except the dlls work there

[blazing torrent]

why are the textures missing lol

[hard ginkgo]

i really dont know-

oh wait

its because i havent made a config yet

the roughness its set at 0

lol

texture works

[blazing torrent]

just copy the one from the github

most of the hashes are the same anyway

[hard ginkgo]

cr

[blazing torrent]

?

[hard ginkgo]

do you have an idea why it crashes when selecting a class?

[blazing torrent]

i said it like 1000 times lol, its a shader issue

[hard ginkgo]

its weird that it works on the early 2008 version but not in the last one

a

[blazing torrent]

the 2008 one will have the same issue if it doesnt have the portal dll replacements

[scenic belfry]

ok

i joined

[blazing torrent]

normal maps wont load either lol

[hard ginkgo]

yea itemtest works too

[blazing torrent]

itemtest nice 😎

[hard ginkgo]

it seems that it crashes when joining big maps

[scenic belfry]

i did cl_drawhud 1

so selection screen dnt show up

which i think crashes the game

[blazing torrent]

i wouldnt really mess with modern tf2 until we have some solution for the shader crashes

[small wadi]

I got no idea, was able to select a class and load 2fort without any issues

[blazing torrent]

💀

[hard ginkgo]

how-

[latent pulsar]

hollly shit

[small wadi]

if you have any crash dumps I can take a look at them, or just try attaching x32dbg to tf2 and send a picture of the exception if no crash dumps

and also cause I have to make sure, you are copying the dlls out of the patched folder over the original right?

[blazing torrent]

yes

[scenic belfry]

dang

[hard ginkgo]

if i open the console

all i get its shader errors

lol

[small wadi]

yeah that message comes from materialsystem

[blazing torrent]

well im able to load the menu with a clean install but the game seems to hang loading 2fort

[hard ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[scenic belfry]

yea me too it hangs when loading 2fort

[blazing torrent]

good news is that im able to select a class on my rtx-tesing map

but shooting the scattergun insta crashes the game lmao

[hard ginkgo]

how did you do it?

[scenic belfry]

Dang I tried well it crashed

[hard ginkgo]

when i try to select a class it crashes for me

[blazing torrent]

are you using the updated patches?

anyway im gonna get x32dbg

[hard ginkgo]

i guess.

[scenic belfry]

Imma try to select a class in itemtest

[hard ginkgo]

i dowloaded it like 5 min ago-

OH

I

THE CLASS SELECTION ITS WORKING

IF YOU SELECT IT FAST

I SPAMMED 1 BUTTON WHEN I CLICKED BLUE TEAM AND IT WORKED

oh..when i taunted it crash..

[scenic belfry]

ok i can koin

[blazing torrent]

nice

[latent pulsar]

why does the fire playermodel happen...

[scenic belfry]

my God the mercs look messed up

[latent pulsar]

nvm

its overlay

[hard ginkgo]

does it crashes when you taunt?

[latent pulsar]

from when they actually get burned

[blazing torrent]

phong shading not working correctly

[scenic belfry]

yep

[blazing torrent]

so it just uses that texture

[scenic belfry]

why is that

[hard ginkgo]

shaders?

[blazing torrent]

because phong shading is shader only

[latent pulsar]

phong_0

nvm it dosent matter

[blazing torrent]

yes it won't make a difference

[scenic belfry]

it seems the culling is not fixed

[hard ginkgo]

true.

[blazing torrent]

@small wadi here is the last exception before it CTD

[scenic belfry]

also bruh how did blu joined 2fort

[hard ginkgo]

i discover it only crashes when selecting RED team mercenaries

blue team works fine

i am dead

[blazing torrent]

nah mine crashed because i took fall damage

[hard ginkgo]

LOL

[blazing torrent]

another particle killed it lol

[scenic belfry]

mine crashed when i shot my shotgun

[small wadi]

huh, materialsystem crash

[blazing torrent]

"bro check out my arm"

[hard ginkgo]

LOL

[scenic belfry]

Yea I tried several maps but only item test seems to work

[blazing torrent]

we'll have to see what blueamulet comes up with, its the same issue plaguing modern tf2 over a year lol

[scenic belfry]

Yus good arm

hahahahaha

disable alpha stuff

for sum reason i can see my playermodel on the map

the zoom on scope 🤣

[latent pulsar]

what launch options yall using?

[small wadi]

are you using mat_queue_mode 0 ?

[scenic belfry]

-dxlevel 70 -insecure -novid -game tf -w 1920 -h 1200

[blazing torrent]

no

but here is my full vars

hl2.exe -game tf -allowdebug -condebug -dxlevel 70 -w 1280 -h 720 -noborder -windowed -debug +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticprop_lod 0 +r_lod 0 +map rtx-testing

[small wadi]

well, did you try setting that?

[blazing torrent]

oh no i did not lol

[latent pulsar]

how are yall joining maps

[blazing torrent]

lemme try

[scenic belfry]

Open console type map itemtest

[latent pulsar]

insecure

[blazing torrent]

well

it loaded PT with my test map, 2fort loads but its not path traced?

i tried shooting lol

[latent pulsar]

shooting breaks it too in shader support

[blazing torrent]

let me try booting the game into the map

yea for whatever reason 2fort is rasterized except i have the fps like its path traced

lemme mess with my remix config

[scenic belfry]

the glowy piss

[blazing torrent]

lots of error in the console for maps that are not path traced

oops sent the image twice

[latent pulsar]

are you seriously getting in with three launch options

[scenic belfry]

the piss does tis

[hard ginkgo]

Its an Elixir🥹

[blazing torrent]

ok nvm the whole game is is rasterized

[scenic belfry]

yus

[latent pulsar]

bro how...

[blazing torrent]

nothing notable in x32dbg

[scenic belfry]

its jiggly

[tiny bay]

he got the brie

[near vine]

@small wadi sorry about that. you triggered our system to block fake links

[small wadi]

lol, was wondering

[near vine]

i DM'd you your text

[latent pulsar]

holy shiiit

my golden frying pan is shit brown!

[covert crystal]

hey guys, I'd like to try remaking one of the materials if they can currently be applied in the Remix toolkit

so if there's a relatively simple, very commonly used texture, send it my way for reference :)

[latent pulsar]

is there any color coding options?

im trying to make it so remix dosent wash out colors

[covert crystal]

there's a tonemapper in the overlay

that might be what you're looking for

[latent pulsar]

gochya ty

@covert crystal

yeah i was asking cause tf2 was really

washed out

[covert crystal]

yeah the default light intensity is wild

eye adaptation + tonemapper should help

[latent pulsar]

ok

its fun to play matches

shits laggy tho

but wtv

i just played a full dustbowl match

[hard ginkgo]

how?

[scenic belfry]

tell now

[latent pulsar]

with bots

[hard ginkgo]

i mean how could you make the map work..

[latent pulsar]

idk

it just loads

[hard ginkgo]

how did you installed the patches?

it doesnt work for us at all since it crashes on every map that isn't itemtest

thats why im asking

[latent pulsar]

hl2.exe -game tf -allowdebug -condebug -dxlevel 70 -w 1920 -h 1080 -noborder -windowed -debug +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticprop_lod 0 +r_lod 0 +mat_queue_mode 0 -novid -high

[hard ginkgo]

WHAT THE

THAT ACTUALLY MADE IT WORK

https://tenor.com/view/enricopucci-happy-happy-enrico-pucci-jojo-made-in-heaven-jojo-gif-26801198

I CAN SHOOT NOW AND CHANGE CLASSES

it loads every map now

:0

my fps are dying but its finally playable!

[latent pulsar]

you're welcome sweet cheeks

[latent pulsar]

yeah its munted

[hard ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-18346209140590964842

[latent pulsar]

@small wadi

portal 2 loads ingame with ur patches

too bad nothing still fucking works

[hard ginkgo]

sandwitch

[small wadi]

far as I saw the patcher doesn't work for portal 2

[latent pulsar]

worked for me somehow

or maybe it didnt

[small wadi]

it would have said several patches failed

[latent pulsar]

it went through

i got three dlls

[small wadi]

This is basically failure

[latent pulsar]

nvm ur right

they went through for me

but the dlls have no changes

[minor radish]

hell yeah the game is playable now. but dustbowl's looking not too good (ignore the error, it just did that cuz i took a screenshot)

[slate hazel]

the game looks so good with ray reconstruction

[restive jasper]

those bot names look like modern tf2

[minor radish]

ye it's modern tf2

[restive jasper]

you actually got that to work!?

[slate hazel]

yep it works now, my screenshots were also taken on a modern tf2

look at the posts above they found a way to make it work

[restive jasper]

something something portal 2?

[unreal pulsar]

I'm trying to get this to work but RTX Remix just won't hook no matter what. I followed the guide from Github. Anyone seeing anything missing at first glance? Dxlevel 70 or 90 just boots normally, without RTX Remix every time, even though the files are in there

[restive jasper]

remix.bat rtx.conf dxvk.conf should be where hl2 exe is

[unreal pulsar]

Got it working by placing the RTX Remix files into bin, although the hl2.exe sits in the root folder.

[scenic belfry]

Hehehehe wow 🤯😳

[scenic belfry]

For dustbowl to work you need to freshly open the game and then join dustbowl, if you joined any other map and then joined dustbowl it will cause that for some reason

[latent pulsar]

too much cached

[restive jasper]

cache files fuck up everything

is there a way to disable them?

[minor radish]

Hmmm that's strange cuz dustbowl was the first map I tried out.

[minor radish]

Is there a way I can delete this cache?

[restive jasper]

search for cache files and delete them i guess

[unreal pulsar]

Dustbowl always looks like that for me as well

[unreal pulsar]

But amazing that it now works with proper TF2. Looks incredible.

[scenic belfry]

hmmm the replacements for the 2008 version i did dnt wrk in the modern version

[restive jasper]

not a suprise

Patching bin/shaderapidx9.dll
Failed to locate patch for b80000000f4c
352C0: Changing 83c4108be55dc3cccccc to 85c07502b0048be55dc3
3D7C0: Changing 558bec to 31c0c3

getting this error when patching tf2

is it anything important?

should i just use portal rtx binaries for that?

can i have a new config?

[scenic belfry]

i also got that error it still wrks fine for me

[restive jasper]

new config?

[restive jasper]

fuck tf2 bots

they just ruined my game

[scenic belfry]

wat they do

[restive jasper]

join games

choose sniper

aimbot everyone

Activate Windows 💀

where can i get a config for this?

the old one doesn't work

[scenic belfry]

Well I can give it to you but later cause I'm not on ma PC right now

[restive jasper]

thanks

[tiny bay]

a friend just sent me this out of the blue lol

[restive jasper]

i thought for a second that someone did it too and wasted (or we) their time

[blazing torrent]

oh hey its me

[restive jasper]

yes i know

[blazing torrent]

(i was making a joke 💀)

[restive jasper]

config please?

[blazing torrent]

config for what?

[restive jasper]

rtx.conf

[blazing torrent]

the one on github works pretty well, why need a new one?

[restive jasper]

it doesn't work well

[blazing torrent]

elaborate lol

[restive jasper]

why do i have to redo it?

[blazing torrent]

what is your problem is what im asking lol

[unreal pulsar]

God dam, this looks good

[restive jasper]

if you already did it what's the point of me doing it over again?

[blazing torrent]

im so confused, why do you need to re-do it

if this is about modern tf2 and hashes not matching, yeah you'll have to mark stuff yourself for the time being

[restive jasper]

i'm asking about modern

[blazing torrent]

i haven't done anything with modern tf2 yet and im busy unfortunately, im sure there is others who can share their config with you

[restive jasper]

k

[unreal pulsar]

The config from Github works for me with modern TF2

What kind of issue are you seeing

[blazing torrent]

When I have the time, I'll edit the readme to include a guide for modern tf2 since it seems to be working well so far

[scenic belfry]

oh now i realize that modern tf2 stuff is different so have to go to maps and fix all the stuff again

[restive jasper]

@scenic belfry can you send me a config for modern?

[scenic belfry]

i have few decal fixes though in it

oh and spot lights are turned off so turn them on in light translation option in remix menu in game setup

rottenburg

dang 60 fps on this map

mvm coal town

[blazing torrent]

you should ignore that fire texture on your player portrait lol

unless thats rasterized

[unreal pulsar]

Everyones burning in rasterized land for some reason. I noticed it when toggling RT on and off

[blazing torrent]

its the phong shader/texture not working correctly in fixed function mode iirc

[unreal pulsar]

@restive jasper Did you copy over the stdshader files to modern TF2 as well? I noticed that it won't work if I do that. Maybe that's the cause of your issues?

[scenic belfry]

boxer tryin to kill meh

dang mvm is hard all alone

[unreal pulsar]

I see. There is a bunch of other weird stuff going on as well, but all that matters is that the RT side works correctly which it mostly does. It's pretty incredible how well it all works considering this is the first time running with RTX Remix

[blazing torrent]

welcome to source spaghetti

[scenic belfry]

this one wrking atleast

[unreal pulsar]

Made a quick vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQcNBWusNI0

[tiny bay]

shame about the particles but it really does look good all things considered

[blazing torrent]

well in the short time i had to test it again, even with these cvars i crash when getting into a map, even with a clean install 🥹

[scenic belfry]

which map were u trying to get in? some maps like doublecross crash for me

[blazing torrent]

2fort, degroot keep

im redoing everything again and also downloading a new patch script just to rule out anything

[scenic belfry]

hmm i tried degrot keep it crashed when i was selecting a class, did it crash for u there?

[blazing torrent]

yeah

though i was able to see ingame for like 1 second, but it was completely rasterized

2fort just instacrashed

[scenic belfry]

yea 2fort also got insta crashed for me

[scenic belfry]

can u try mvm_coaltown?

[blazing torrent]

oh am i just having bad luck lmao

yeah one sec

instacrash after loading class selection

game is also still rasterized lmao

[scenic belfry]

oh yea then its a problem

[blazing torrent]

i wonder if its my remix version

[scenic belfry]

i have the portal rtx one

with rr

[blazing torrent]

same here but i think there might be some left over files conflicting

ima delete my bin folder and try it again

instacrash 🥹

ill have to come back to this later

thx for the help though

[scenic belfry]

do u have that fire texture hidden for the player models?

[blazing torrent]

no, its a clean rtx config file

[restive jasper]

pretty sure it's not

[scenic belfry]

hmm my game is also crashing now whenever class stuff appears and i feel like it cause i have that texture hidden idk imma try to put ma old rtx.conf

[blazing torrent]

@scenic belfry i tried yours from the one you posted earlier but im still running into the map crash issues

anyway i gtg

lmk if you find anything

[scenic belfry]

ohh i see why it was crashing when i open the game and instantly type map (map name) it will crash but if i join the map via practice and stuff which shows the whole loading screen stuff it will wrk and for some reason after doing that if again open console and do map (map name) it will show the whole loading screen and the map will wrk

idk why at the first attempt tf2 doesnt show any loading screen when opening a map via console

[restive jasper]

i have a new problem: warn: ConvertFormat: Unknown format encountered: D3D9Format::SSAA
warn: ConvertFormat: Unknown format encountered: D3D9Format::SSAA
warn: ConvertFormat: Unknown format encountered: D3D9Format::SSAA

yes i did all the patches

[scenic belfry]

can u later try it like this first open a map via Find a game>Training>Offline practice and start a match from there and see if it wrks, if it wrks then disconnect then open up the console and try to load degrot keep from there

yea doing like that wrks for me

[restive jasper]

the patches are crashing my game for some reason

[scenic belfry]

when does it crash?

[restive jasper]

immediately

oh the portal rtx files crashed it

[unreal pulsar]

1. Patch game files with applypatch.py #1133959564824424458 message
   You'll need Python installed. Place the .py file into the games root folder and then run "python applypatch.py".

2. Move the patched files from the patched subfolder into the game directory

3. Copy RTX Remix files into bin subfolder

4. Put dvxk.conf and rtx.conf into root folder next to hl2.exe

5. Start via batch in root folder

Here are the steps I needed to make it work

Tried it just now on a fresh install

[restive jasper]

previously we needed portal rtx files

so we don't now?

[unreal pulsar]

Yeah, it doesn't work with them in there for me

[restive jasper]

good to know

[scenic belfry]

hmm i only copied .trex, d3d9.dll and all the stdshaders from portal rtx

[restive jasper]

stdshaders crash it

for me at least

after trying it out i'm gonna make a guide for github

now to game boots to the loading screen

aand crashes on map load

[unreal pulsar]

Nice

Oh that's not nice

Which map did you try?

[restive jasper]

2fort and coaltown and badwater

[unreal pulsar]

Hmm, the only one that crashed for me was cp_yukon_final

[restive jasper]

warn: Found a null sampler. Fallback to linear-repeat
info: [RTX-Compatibility-Info] Trying to bind a texture to a mesh without UVs. Was this intended?
err: [36] common device objects were not disposed of.

[scenic belfry]

are u doing it like this just opening the console and doing map (map name) or like my way?

[restive jasper]

console

[small wadi]

I guess I'm going to try loading into all maps and seeing if I can get any of them to crash

[scenic belfry]

try doing it like my way

[unreal pulsar]

cp_yukon_final is the one I can get to crash every time

[scenic belfry]

imma try that

[restive jasper]

i tried by offline training and same thing

[scenic belfry]

it wrks for me but very low fps

[unreal pulsar]

Interesting, it crashes for me every time. Tried it a bunch of times now

[restive jasper]

what's the smallest map i can try?

[scenic belfry]

i like first join a practice offline match with bots and then disconnect and join other maps via console

[unreal pulsar]

Oh wait, actually it does load for me now. It doesn't work when going straight from the menu, but when I switch maps I can load Yukon

[scenic belfry]

well itemtest

[unreal pulsar]

There was one map I tried earlier which had insanely low fps and was all kinds of busted

[restive jasper]

itemtest actually loaded lol

[scenic belfry]

joiined a non secured server

and theres just a pyro dancing

[restive jasper]

ip?

[scenic belfry]

194.247.42.130:26346

[scenic belfry]

saw your name in the server

[restive jasper]

works

[restive jasper]

please ignore the fire texture

it makes me sick

[scenic belfry]

i forget

bruh that server had so much stuff and mods ma game setup has so many textures now

dang

[restive jasper]

looks really good

also noticed a hack about the resupply sign

[scenic belfry]

yea those made by a friend

[blazing torrent]

these are just normal dxvk warnings, happens even with the original non-rtx version of it

nothing related to remix

[hard ginkgo]

a

[restive jasper]

but it's only happening for me using remix

same error where i tried to join a server using the old build

[blazing torrent]

i still dont think its relevant to your game issues, its probably the bridge/engine crashing

[restive jasper]

i'll be working on updating the github

ssd upgrade!

[restive jasper]

how are we standing about multiplayer? any vac bypass?

[latent pulsar]

@blazing torrent

I played a full mvm online match

[restive jasper]

how?

can you join matchmaking?

[latent pulsar]

uhh

no comment

[latent pulsar]

yeah

[restive jasper]

h o w

nothing that i tried worked

[latent pulsar]

im not really allowed to say

cause it could be turned into a cheating tool

[restive jasper]

we already made a cheating tool

you can just ignore wall textures

[latent pulsar]

dont mind backround audio

its loud asf

[scenic belfry]

Hey come on now seeing that just makes me sad more cause I can't join servers 😭😞😭😭

[blazing torrent]

i think it would be fair if we did not use some "method" to join servers 🥹

[tiny bay]

yee....

[latent pulsar]

just a test

[blazing torrent]

yea but showing people is definitely gonna cause interest and things can go south if so

if we're doing mp on tf2 rtx it should be with servers that are meant for it

[latent pulsar]

im never releasing this

nor giving it to people

educational purposes

[small wadi]

you are why I didn't even want to do this in the first place

[latent pulsar]

didnt use your patches

[scenic belfry]

Well u can join non secure servers and thankfully there are a bunch in tf2 but all the mvm ones for some reason need a password to join

And these servers are some weird servers man just 1 guy in there probably the owner All alone doing thingies

[blazing torrent]

yea insecure is fine but bypassing vac is a no no

[latent pulsar]

wasnt bypassing vac

[blazing torrent]

ok we dont need to go into specifics

what you did is what we're trying to avoid lol

[latent pulsar]

totes

[manic vine]

wouldnt that still make it one of the most played games on steam?

[restive jasper]

bots?

[scenic belfry]

yus

[latent pulsar]

whats your water fix?

[scenic belfry]

the one CR gave

[latent pulsar]

oh he gave one?

[scenic belfry]

yus

[restive jasper]

can you link the message?

[blazing torrent]

that water doesnt look correct

i dont see the normals at all

unless its just the angle

[scenic belfry]

ah how do i link it

[restive jasper]

right click

copy message link

[scenic belfry]

yea i disable the normal

its set at 0

[blazing torrent]

crash to desktop 🥹

[latent pulsar]

use my launch options

trust

[blazing torrent]

i did lol

[latent pulsar]

-dxlevel 70 -w 1920 -h 1080 -noborder -windowed +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticpro

these?

[restive jasper]

they're incomplete

[blazing torrent]

dont you need mat_queue_mode?

here is mine

hl2.exe -game tf -allowdebug -condebug -dxlevel 70 -w 1280 -h 720 -noborder -windowed -debug +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticprop_lod 0 +r_lod 0 +mat_queue_mode 0 -novid -high

[latent pulsar]

yes

[latent pulsar]

uhh

[restive jasper]

that's for tf_port?

[scenic belfry]

that frst one goes tf/custom

[blazing torrent]

the water replacement should still work

[scenic belfry]

then the second on your rtx-remix/mods

[scenic belfry]

wch map?

[blazing torrent]

i tried viaduct first

[scenic belfry]

oh yea thats gonna crash

[blazing torrent]

💀

[scenic belfry]

crashes for me

[blazing torrent]

what practice map works then lol

[scenic belfry]

try 5gorge

upward

[latent pulsar]

also try 2fort

2fort works

[blazing torrent]

you cant access 2fort from the practice mode iirc?

[latent pulsar]

damn

also

anyone know a fix to lights only working when you walk near them?

[blazing torrent]

its a known source issue

[latent pulsar]

gochya

[scenic belfry]

lakeside and nuclues also wrk

[blazing torrent]

and no there isnt really a solution unless tf2 somehow had lua

[scenic belfry]

have bettr perf

[latent pulsar]

doubt

[blazing torrent]

our solution is to replace the map lights manually anyway

[blazing torrent]

ill try again in a few mins, nuked the tf2 install again just in case

[covert crystal]

would someone mind dropping me a texture or two to try remaking for TF2? Ideally something generic/often re-used rather than specific designs

[blazing torrent]

gotchu fam

wood texture from 2fort in the red base

its everywhere

[latent pulsar]

idk if its the dx mode

but like half of the particles are gone

[blazing torrent]

i think its a byproduct of blueamulet fixing the shader crashes lol

im sure modern tf2 relies a lot on shaders for particles now

[latent pulsar]

true

medigun fucked

and uhh

pyro flames

[blazing torrent]

ok im ingame with nucleus but i still have 0 idea how im rasterized

the fps is the equivalent of running with path tracing tho lol

[covert crystal]

not gonna lie, that's more detailed than I was expecting! I'll play around with it

[latent pulsar]

all the textures are pretty detaield

[blazing torrent]

wtf when i get ubered im path traced

tf

[scenic belfry]

u have dxvk.conf but still raster how is tis possible

[restive jasper]

source spaghetti shines again!

[blazing torrent]

maybe my ultra low end config i had synced over?

i only say that because my viewmodel is still missing lol

[scenic belfry]

U mean the weapons are invisible?

[blazing torrent]

yeah

[scenic belfry]

I got that too but restarted the game which fixed it

[blazing torrent]

i think my issue is related to something else

[scenic belfry]

Now u can try disconnecting then launch 2fort via console

Which should work now

[blazing torrent]

ok so in my case the viewmodel fov was at 0 lol

[scenic belfry]

bruh

[latent pulsar]

#dumbass

and why

was it auto set at 0 lol

[blazing torrent]

i told ya, i had a ultra low config when i was messing with remix before a few months ago but it was pathtraced fine at that time

ever since i used the mat_queue_mode cvar i have been rasterized

[latent pulsar]

gochya

[blazing torrent]

can someone share their rtx.conf?

im still using the one from tf_port

i just wanna rule out a remix config issue

[scenic belfry]

#1133959564824424458 message mines here

[blazing torrent]

uhh

i found something that "fixed it" but it breaks the UI

[latent pulsar]

i got coloring to more match tf2

[blazing torrent]

ok well if i manually tag UI textures they come back with with that option off

oh lawd

turning on my playermodel for the character portrait breaks everything lmao

[latent pulsar]

looks like a shitpost

[tiny bay]

these go hard

could some1 test this map?

i couldnt get it to look functional in any way

[latent pulsar]

i gochu

[latent pulsar]

yeah nope

[blazing torrent]

path traced class selection 😮🥵

[restive jasper]

no shit

i want that

[blazing torrent]

prepare to break your UI lol

turn the top one off

ur gonna have to remark all of the UI textures

[latent pulsar]

im pretty sure that fix's the fucked up looking merc selection

[blazing torrent]

nah it looks the same lol

[latent pulsar]

it works for me

ur game is mega fucked for some reason...

[blazing torrent]

yeah i have no idea why lol, its installed exactly the same as yall

same cvars

same remix

💀

seizure warning 🙂

[restive jasper]

remix at it's peak

[latent pulsar]

vertex streching

[blazing torrent]

i probably have to mark all of the UI textures manually again lol

[latent pulsar]

hold on

[blazing torrent]

all good now

i only marked a few and it fixed itself

[modern hinge]

Summarizes the rtx remix experience

[restive jasper]

is that the new heavy?

[blazing torrent]

thicc

[scenic belfry]

yea the vertix are messed up

hahah

[blazing torrent]

engineer has outgrown tf2

he will take over the word

[tiny bay]

i see this when i sleep

[scenic belfry]

idk how that bot died in spawn

gta

[restive jasper]

yay shadows

[scenic belfry]

Headless demo

[scenic belfry]

found tis no secure server that hosts upto 10 people and is vanilla, it has hightower right now

ip

23.109.60.23:27015

no bounce lighting

[blazing torrent]

looks almost like a noire comic book panel

[blazing torrent]

anyone else just have a completely broken inventory? lol

[blazing torrent]

making a modern tf2 guide as we speak

its gonna be on the same readme, just split into 2 different sections

[blazing torrent]

new guide is out

https://github.com/sambow23/TF2RTX-Stuff/blob/main/README.md

[small wadi]

if you're finding that some maps are just missing tons of walls like koth_viadict, it's related to the 75438b??04f3 world backfaces patch, I'm investigating this now
for most maps it stops the backface culling but for some it just eats random walls

[hard ginkgo]

I'ts someone avalible to help me test my server?

[scenic belfry]

Me

[hard ginkgo]

okay

im starting it

[blazing torrent]

if you figure this out, this would also hugely help maps on gmod with the same issue

good work 🙏

@scenic belfry added u to the credits of the readme

[small wadi]

@blazing torrent Also I realize what was wrong with the debug log spam patch from yesterday, some hex editor patches

No bound shader (materialsystem.dll):
389E8: FF 15 40 C1 0B 10 -> EB 04 90 90 90 90

unimplemented sprite renderer (client.dll):
7845BD: FF 15 90 E4 8C 10 -> EB 04 90 90 90 90

[blazing torrent]

log is clean 😎

[small wadi]

some relocation entries in the dll were replacing NOPs with addresses so just have a JMP skip over all of it instead of NOP slide

[blazing torrent]

degrootkeep looking 🥵

[small wadi]

I'd add the following to the .bat as well: +r_occlusion 0 +mat_softwarelighting 0
If you look in the portal_rtx\cfg\autoexec.cfg you can see the list of cvars they set for remix, note not all of them exist in other source games and were custom added for portal rtx

[blazing torrent]

sure i can do that, do these change anything visual ingame?

[latent pulsar]

blackface...

[scenic belfry]

Heavy map

[blazing torrent]

cursed

[latent pulsar]

this will be tf2 in 2024

[blazing torrent]

this will be tf2 in 2011

[small wadi]

r_occlusion is for func_occluder I believe, and mat_softwarelighting is likely to stop the engine from doing unnecessary work that will just get discarded by remix

[blazing torrent]

i added them 👍

[hard ginkgo]

alr my server its working 100%

the bad thing its that if u are not from near brazil the ping u going to get its pretty bad.

[scenic belfry]

Yus can confirm

[latent pulsar]

@blazing torrent

do you have the issue of remix crashing when you tab out?

[blazing torrent]

no

do you have it in fullscreen or borderless window

[latent pulsar]

its run

[hard ginkgo]

if you press M and then tab out it will not crash

[latent pulsar]

why m

[restive jasper]

loadout edit

[hard ginkgo]

ye

[latent pulsar]

ooh

weird

cool!

[river schooner]

i'm still getting a black screen after running remix.bat. I'm assuming the issue is that it's apparently failing to locate one of the patches for shaderapidx9.dll. is there something important i'm missing?

[latent pulsar]

shade model 0?

[river schooner]

yeah

[small wadi]

That patch is expected to fail for now and is not important

[river schooner]

Gotcha

Not sure what's causing the black screen then

[river schooner]

is there a log file or something I could send?

[blazing torrent]

do you have -novid in the remix bat?

[river schooner]

lemme make sure

[tiny bay]

mine black screened until i put rtx files in bin instead of the root folder

[blazing torrent]

oh shit did i fuck up on that instruction

i just pushed a fix

💀

my bad guys lmao

[scenic belfry]

hmm alot of maps have that dustbowl effect going on with them even sawmill 🥹

how da heck is mercenary park running better then most other maps

[restive jasper]

any fixes for the water and the eyes?

[blazing torrent]

for the water, use the 2 files popo linked earlier, might not work for every map since it was made for the tf port

as for the eyes, probably not.
unless you want to manually add them to the eye texture, but then they won't move lol

iirc tf_port did this

[scenic belfry]

One of the water textures in the files I linked don't have a normal, so the water flickers, I think that water texture name starts with CA

So I have to set the normal to 0 for all the water textures so it looks normal

[blazing torrent]

should be relatively easy to fix, just need to update all water vmt's to point to the cheap water texture

[tiny bay]

is that turbine??

wtf

[scenic belfry]

yus

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=518198067

[blazing torrent]

is this even the same game anymore

tf3 = post apocalyptic survival game

[errant ore]

black screen upon launch

full black in modern

tf2 logo + sounds in port\

[scenic belfry]

191.83.143.109 if someone wanna join

[errant ore]

nvm

i scrolled up

ok so now it crashes on map load i tried the fix but it says insecure

[latent pulsar]

how yall gettin godrays?

[hard ginkgo]

fallback lights

you can configure them

[scenic belfry]

u need to join nuclues first via training then after that u can join any map and non secure servers

[errant ore]

i tried

i cant connect to my own server

[scenic belfry]

are starting tf2 from steam?

[errant ore]

no

the batch file

[scenic belfry]

hmmm can u start it via terminal? and then try joining training

hl2.exe -game tf -allowdebug -condebug -dxlevel 80 -w 1920 -h 1200 -noborder -mat_softwarelighting -windowed -debug +sv_cheats 1 +r_occlusion 0 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld 0 +r_unloadlightmaps 1 1 +mat_specular 0 +mat_bumpmap 0 +mat_normalmap 0 +mat_parallaxmap 0 +r_staticprop_lod 0 +r_lod 0 +mat_queue_mode 0 -novid -high

[errant ore]

ok i tried again and it connected but crashed on loading nucleus

[scenic belfry]

open terminal in tf2 directory and paste that there

[latent pulsar]

what setting

[errant ore]

also is ur monitor 1920x1200?

[scenic belfry]

yus

[errant ore]

hmm

[scenic belfry]

change that to yours

[errant ore]

odd res tbh

[hard ginkgo]

btw disable "directional" lighting

you can ask popo for his fallback light config

[latent pulsar]

@scenic belfry

plz bbg

[scenic belfry]

actually u just need to set the single scattering albedo at 1000 or 5000

in froaxel radiance setting in remix menu

[latent pulsar]

yes

it happens

dont be suprised when shit breaks dude

[blazing torrent]

@errant ore did u follow the github guide by any chance?

i messed up something the other night when publishing the modern tf2 guide, make sure remix is installed to /steamapps/Team Fortress 2/bin instead of /steamapps/Team Fortress 2/

also try using this rtx.conf

it has a few fixes for the UI

pushed it to github as well

also i would try removing anything in the custom folder (huds, model replacements, etc)

[errant ore]

yeah

but i reinstalled remix

[errant ore]

this is a fresh install

[blazing torrent]

but i see a custom hud in your earlier screenshot?

[errant ore]

oh

what

thats on me

[blazing torrent]

lol all good

[errant ore]

ok

got farther

[blazing torrent]

did it freeze there?

[errant ore]

yeah

[blazing torrent]

what map did you load? nucleus?

[errant ore]

yeah

[blazing torrent]

odd

GPU?

[errant ore]

relaunched

[errant ore]

following this

seems to work so far

dlss ultra didnt work

[blazing torrent]

uhh turn off your character portrait in advanced options

[errant ore]

ty

is it super broken or is mine fricked

[blazing torrent]

still not working?

it should render normally, if the UI is flickering, use the rtx.conf i sent earlier

[errant ore]

glitchy flashing all over

[blazing torrent]

i wonder if popo's launch options invalidates the hashes i used for the UI

hmm

let me try myself

[errant ore]

also how do fix water i saw the puthisinport.zip and water.zip but do they work on modern tf2

[blazing torrent]

they should work for the older maps (like 2fort)

i havent gotten around to doing vmt renames for all maps

[errant ore]

👍

also amazing work this is sick

[blazing torrent]

UI no longer flickering?

[errant ore]

stil lflickering

lemme make sure im using your rtx.conf

[blazing torrent]

i just tried popo's launch options, no difference from mine, the new rtx.conf should fix it

btw the UI itself will flicker still as its a known source/remix bug, but you shouldnt get any blinding flashes anymore lol

[blazing torrent]

if there are, let me know where and how they happen, i can try to fix it

[errant ore]

least broken tf2 mod

[blazing torrent]

iirc viaduct is broken because of some fixed function fallback bug

[scenic belfry]

yea some maps are broken like that

[blazing torrent]

some others are like it too

[errant ore]

any ways to boost fps

[blazing torrent]

not really

the lack of culling is what kills the fps but its required for it to render correctly

the only way to get better perf is getting a stronger cpu/gpu

you can try increasing the DLSS to ultra perf but if it does nothing, you're running into a CPU bottleneck

[errant ore]

how i have a 7800x3d

i didnt know it could get bottlenecked 💀

[blazing torrent]

with pathtracing its definitely easy to get bottlenecked with both parts lol

whats the gpu tho

[errant ore]

4070 super

[blazing torrent]

though with a 7800x3d you should have a pretty high average fps lol, my i7 1270P isnt terribly fast in comparison

how much fps u getting

[errant ore]

30 on nucleus 60 on 2fort

[scenic belfry]

huh??

its opposite for me

[errant ore]

wierd

[blazing torrent]

make sure the game is running on your x3d ccd

oh wait the 7800x3d only has 1 nvm

[scenic belfry]

55 on nuclues and 23 on 2fort

[errant ore]

wierd

[blazing torrent]

i wonder if source doesnt take advantage of the 3d vcache

source likes fast single-core clocks

[errant ore]

maybe

[blazing torrent]

so a 14900K kinda blasts past everything

[blazing torrent]

wuh

[blazing torrent]

i also get like 60fps on 2fort

[errant ore]

spectating

[blazing torrent]

hmm prob a broken UI element

ill take a look

[scenic belfry]

how

[blazing torrent]

idk it just does lol

[scenic belfry]

how mch on nuclues?

[blazing torrent]

havent paid attention

[errant ore]

hey popo how do i install ur water fix on modern tf2

[blazing torrent]

lemme check after looking into the spectator issue

[scenic belfry]

well its not mine its CRs

[errant ore]

oh

mb

[blazing torrent]

one sec

extract this into your /Team Fortress 2/tf/custom folder

[errant ore]

kk

[blazing torrent]

put this into /Team Fortress 2/rtx-remix/mods

[errant ore]

extract or pu the zip

[blazing torrent]

both extract

mb

[errant ore]

all good

[latent pulsar]

mvm is fun

i played like 5 ghostown matches

[scenic belfry]

hey dnt show off now -_-

[hard ginkgo]

real

[latent pulsar]

my bad gang

[blazing torrent]

i went through all the hashes and i cant figure out for the life of me why its flickering

[errant ore]

wierd

[blazing torrent]

ill have to look deeper into it later

[errant ore]

oops