Garry's Mod

[loud mural]

Ahhhh

Well I don't think those maps (ep1 and 2) were updated for the anniversary update iirc

[subtle bison]

i thought they were for hdr and bicubic lightmaps?

ph

oh nvm

i see

[loud mural]

bicubic lightmaps is a shader option

it works with existing lightmaps

[subtle bison]

ah gotcha

i wonder if its something as simple as bsp version differences that niknaks isnt updated to handle

[loud mural]

and hl2 maps were missing ldr not hdr lighting

That's why if you played with ldr on you'd get fullbright after Ravenholm I think

[subtle bison]

wasnt that just the coast-nova prospekt?

[loud mural]

Yeah I think so

But everything got HDR lighting after Orangebox they just forgot to include ldr for some maps

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet rubat hates us

[keen rivet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://tenor.com/bhXs0.gif

[subtle bison]

hmm nothing shows to fail

[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_brush_backfaces
[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_world_backfaces1
[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_world_backfaces2
[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_frustumcull_client
[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_forcenovis
[PatchManager] Applied patch: rtx_patch_skip_world_draw
[PatchManager] Applied patch: rtx_patch_world_backfaces1
[PatchManager] Applied patch: rtx_patch_world_backfaces2
[PatchManager] Applied patch: rtx_patch_frustumcull_client
[PatchManager] Applied patch: rtx_patch_forcenovis
[PatchManager] Restored patch: rtx_patch_skip_world_draw

[keen rivet]

oh

do all of them noticably make a difference?

[subtle bison]

only 1 that doesnt work is brush entity backfaces

at least from what i can tell

ill test other maps, most world geo is stable in trainstation_02 other than the window brushes

[willow fog]

decals?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[willow fog]

zamn

Finaloly

[subtle bison]

the only place they dont render is displacements because they use a different render path

but it shouldnt be too hard to fix

[loud mural]

Any idea why these props don't render without perf mode enabled?

[subtle bison]

guh i thought i fixed this

[loud mural]

This is ctf_gorge btw

Red spawn

[subtle bison]

rendering seems to shit itself randomly when perf mode is on with this newer ver of gmod

i think its because of the decal patch signatues changing maybe

stuff will randomly vertex explode

wait maybe its the engine flashlight

i've only seen it happen when its on

[loud mural]

It was off in that screenshot though

[wispy crest]

just think when hl2rtx is complete (never) we wont need auto pbr

[subtle bison]

wait you're saying it only renders with perf mode on?

lmfao

i have no idea

[loud mural]

Yeah lol

[subtle bison]

the bigger question is why those props dont render in fixed function normally

[loud mural]

Yeah I tested without PT and yeah they weren't there

[subtle bison]

SPR renders static props directly with imesh so i guess we're skipping some kind of engine issue

[loud mural]

Yeah it's there on standard DX9

[subtle bison]

good news, clean install with topbr on from the start, no driver crashes after 3 hl2 ep1 maps

[loud mural]

Great!

[subtle bison]

the only caveat is that its slower to apply the replacements but meh i dont think its a huge deal since its a one-time only process

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

nevermind it was a driver issue with remix :3

(i totally love AMD and definitely do not have any hatred towards it)

[loud mural]

Didn't you have a choice between an Nvidia and AMD card?

Or am I misremembering?

[subtle bison]

back in march/april of last year, the 9070 was a better deal than nvidia cards at the time

and the RT perf was really good (still is to a degree), but time has passed and the driver situation has gotten worse and AMD doesnt really seem to care

[loud mural]

Wow

That sucks

I didn't think they'd just let their drivers decay like that

[subtle bison]

yeah remix is borderline unusable on windows, its far better on linux in terms of stability but there are some rendering and performance issues, but i have made gitlab issues for it

[loud mural]

Hopefully they get fixed

What is their track record with that kinda stuff?

[subtle bison]

the radv devs?

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

they fixed a lot of RT stuff this january

pixelcluster is one of the main people spearheading that and they're doing a great job

[loud mural]

That's good

You should make the fixes package show which nightly the user has installed

If that's possible

[subtle bison]

yeah i see i did that for the remix runtime but not the fixes packages 🥀

ill fix that real quick

[loud mural]

Also which binary patches should I have installed for the nightlys?

[subtle bison]

this one

[loud mural]

Okay cool, thanks

[subtle bison]

ssbump

[loud mural]

Ayyyy it's ssbump my beloved

That does looks pretty nice

Running the game using the native resolution option causes the window to be an odd size for me

[subtle bison]

looks like windows is shifting it down?

oh

wtf

i assume if you directly set 3840x2160 it works fine?

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

i wonder if the launcher is grabbing the usable desktop resolution (space minus taskbar)

[loud mural]

It's not the end of the world it's just weird

Likely

That was my guess

But it's funny since it doesn't position the window properly

[subtle bison]

i swear ssbumb gives a displacment/heightmap vibe, it looks more satisfying than normal maps imo?

extreme case where the casted light is very sharp

[loud mural]

Wow that does look crazy

I thought ssbump was only good for the space savings

Yeah I fresh installed and the doors are mostly back to normal

odd

[subtle bison]

what the fuck

its not a gmod update because this install is like 3 weeks old, gpu are u ok

[loud mural]

Your GPU turned it's hazard lights on wth

[subtle bison]

1 game reboot later and its fine

lol i was trying to take a snapshot of this pretty map and then my driver crashed and recovered and it caught it somehow

[willow fog]

Tater

[subtle bison]

note for self, possible update that sorta broke culling

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison another interesting thing we could investigate that allows cs lua on any server for rtx multiplayer

https://github.com/lj-expand/lj-expand

[subtle bison]

lol nice

[keen rivet]

or https://github.com/vurvdev/Autorun-ng

just randomly came up in conversation and I thought "maybe i could use this hmm"

[keen rivet]

this is a sign to buy Nvidia

[subtle bison]

yea i've messed with this before

holy shit black mesa is literally perfect with topbr

also we have the advantage over the official mod because facial animations work 🤓

[weak ermine]

no way this bath was in og game

[subtle bison]

nah i think bms uses the same mesh name and i guess the hl2 one overrode it lol

why is it only the women that t-pose

[modern quest]

it's fun

[subtle bison]

resonance cascade rtx

gpu driver crashed twice towards the end, im surprised it recovered. windows could never
remix camera changes always do that on RDNA 4 no matter if its windows or linux

[lean hatch]

Better question is why arent YOU tposing

[subtle bison]

i am you just cant see me

[lean hatch]

We see all

6 eyes style

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-domain-expansion-gif-19197982

[subtle bison]

LMFAO WHY IS THE SECURITY GUARD FREAKY LIKE THAT

[weak ermine]

"oh yehh more more"

[subtle bison]

man its like 11 pm but i wanna do an entire playthrough of bms through gmod rtx now

this shit is so peak

[weak ermine]

yeah too

but

maybe u switch to ur nvide gpu

this unrr shining

so bad😭🙏

[subtle bison]

man im so blind to it

what no RR and DLSS does to an mf after like a year

to me it looks normal

[weak ermine]

we losing him

[subtle bison]

glass smoke 🥀

[weak ermine]

lmao

[lean hatch]

PLEASE CR

TEST RESIDUE PROCESSING

[subtle bison]

sur

do we know the specific map number?

for hl1 its c2a4a

bms also uses the same map names so i hope its the right one

[lean hatch]

Shrug

Dont quite know

[subtle bison]

https://wiki.sourceruns.org/Black-Mesa-Maps.html

yay im right

what am i lookin for

the bright radioactive stuff?

or just that first open part when you get ouside the trash compactor?

[weak ermine]

maybe

✨bright✨ radioactive stuff

[lean hatch]

First open part

The cliffs

The water

[subtle bison]

im very engine bottlenecked here

also no glowing radioactive stuff 🥀 it gets toPBR'ed

[weak ermine]

what a shame

[lean hatch]

You think the uvs/hashes match up in gmod to black mesa

[subtle bison]

i would hope so

but no idea

portal 2 rtx used to be compatible but according to burrito something broke

either on our end or p2

[weak ermine]

or its lie and bubito lier

[weak ermine]

its me or this shit is not normal?

like

very bright sunlight

and dark room

[willow fog]

Buy me black mesa

[modern quest]

you really want it?

[willow fog]

yes

To play in garry and his mod

Ot'

It's been a while since I've caught up with gmod

[modern quest]

🤔

i can't tell if you're joking

[willow fog]

I am not.

CRs gpu is fucking garbage and his clips look like hsit

[modern quest]

😖 okay

i have a key but i'm not sure it'll work in your region

gimme a few mins to find it

can't find it 🙁

sorry

[weak ermine]

isn't game like cheap

[modern quest]

$20 on official stores rn

goes on sale for like $4 though

[weak ermine]

yeah that's what im talking about

[keen rivet]

i remember it being so yeah

[weak ermine]

Mandela effect

[compact blaze]

Someone needs to let bro know that the fixed function stuff needs to be kept cause im scared bro will delete it thinking its abandoned code no one’s using

[compact blaze]

ya its like there’s no bounce lighting

maybe its cause he has his bounce lighting set to low?

maybe only 2 bounces or smth

[onyx ridge]

"we are updating gmod to use vulkan and completely rewriting rendering to make use of it"

[compact blaze]

i think this would actually just shut down CR

[subtle bison]

😟 🥹

[onyx ridge]

🥺

[lean hatch]

i gotchu man

[weak ermine]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3674545069&searchtext=classic+offensive+

[subtle bison]

👀

time to test infmap again

[ionic cipher]

flowing gun

[subtle bison]

wotr

alpha foliage final boss
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3675270719&searchtext=

[subtle bison]

doesnt seem to work 🙁

[weak ermine]

models

someone

check

psl

🙏

[compact blaze]

what could this fix

[compact blaze]

how r u doing that

[subtle bison]

invisible 3dsky on perf mode and objects dissapearing when outside of map limits on infmap

both only happen on the remix side

everything works in raster

[compact blaze]

So it didn’t fix the 3dsky?

[subtle bison]

didnt fix either

[compact blaze]

:(

[subtle bison]

im looking into my own solution rn

i just gotta figure out what remix is doing

[compact blaze]

i wonder how much of the work u did on gmod remix can be ported to portal 2 remix

[subtle bison]

what would even need to be ported?

[compact blaze]

also have u tried fsr 4.1 yet?

[subtle bison]

i can only think of legacy emissives

[compact blaze]

like the chunked bvh and autopbr

[subtle bison]

no, didnt know that came out

[compact blaze]

i mean it didnttttt but it got leaked and u can use it, improves stability a bunch at no perf cost

[subtle bison]

portal 2 rtx would benefit more from rendering all of the static map details as a remix replacement, i already verified it's almost a 2x perf increase

because 90% of perf issues in portal 2 rtx is cpu bottlenecks in the engine

[compact blaze]

what ifffff u added chunked bvh on top

[subtle bison]

that wouldnt work

the chunked rendering is dynamic and runtime based, but the geometry would be the same as a remix replacement

gmod needs the dynamic stuff because its not a linear game, we have to account for any workshop or mounted maps

where portal 2 rtx is linear as it only has a story and coop

[compact blaze]

What if i have a ton of physics objects

[subtle bison]

we dont handle any dynamic entities

so that would still cause an engine bottleneck regardless of method

and its not worth reinventing the wheel for those

[compact blaze]

ah ok

[subtle bison]

way too compliciated

[compact blaze]

just praying for the most amount of optimization possible in portal 2 remix so tsp can reap those benefits

[subtle bison]

tsp would also need to be manual work

your best bet is waiting for gp2 rework to come out and play in gmod rtx instead

also tsp would probably run fine as-is on p2rtx because of how much of it is indoors

[compact blaze]

For just the static map detail replacement?

[subtle bison]

yes

[compact blaze]

i mean my mod would prob have a a good few “outdoor” sections so i’d wonder how i could optimize that for remix

[subtle bison]

dont use alphacard geometry 🙂

[compact blaze]

and actually does 3dsky work in p2 rtx?

[subtle bison]

idk

probably?

it works in most source games already

[compact blaze]

i hope so cause i really want a gag where theres building destruction in the 3dsky and it falls into and scares the player/narrator but does literally nothing cause its a 3dsky

[subtle bison]

lol that would be funny

[compact blaze]

also quick question, would it be visually annoying if we could see stanley’s shadow indoors

with how the ceiling lighting will cast multiple shadows

[subtle bison]

idk

depends on the person, maybe just make it a togglable option

[compact blaze]

ik i could prob get away with it cause stanley still cant see his two feet wheb he looks down

[compact blaze]

maybe cause of how in the lore its a malleable game/story, only outdoors the office building can we see stanley’s shadow

[loud mural]

Nope, sadly it doesn't work

And iirc xoxor4d won't fix it

[compact blaze]

especially cause i want to harness remix’s visual bugs/debug settings as cool visual effects

[compact blaze]

heart breaking why?

[loud mural]

idk he doesn't feel like it I guess

He seems busy with other projects anyway

I got like 900 bug reports on that GitHub that haven't made any progress in months

My guess is he's done with P2RTX

Other than maintenance

No HW skinning either so no dynamic prop replacements

[compact blaze]

too focused on gta 4 ig?

[loud mural]

and some NFS game

Same for L4D2 as well, no progress

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison can you please make portal 2 run on dx12 and add path tracing so this is fixed

[loud mural]

lmao

[subtle bison]

it happens to us all, unity rtx and blender toolkit dead on the wayside rn

i do want to work on them again but im still on a gmod rtx high 😭

wish i could duplicate myself

[loud mural]

Oh no I understand, we all have lives

[subtle bison]

for p2rtx iirc, doesnt it have raised vert limits?

you could probably get away with engine replacments for stuff that is unstable

[loud mural]

Wait he raised the vert limits just for P2RTX?

ik he did some stable hash stuff for the cube and a couple other physics objects

But panels are screwed from a hash prospective

[subtle bison]

ah i meant for portal 2 normally

since its one of the more modern source branches

[compact blaze]

can i get away with adding ai generated models

unmodified ai generated models

raw

[subtle bison]

wha

[subtle bison]

cursed

[loud mural]

That may be slightly more than 65,536 verts idk though

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

instead of fighting with remix and the source sky camera, why not make perf mode render everything in the main camera pass

[loud mural]

Would you be able to fix the 3D sky clipping with the main map?

[subtle bison]

like the hallway in gm_construct?

[loud mural]

Yup

[subtle bison]

it still the same issue but i think we can mitigate that easily

[loud mural]

Nice

How do you plan about going about that?

[subtle bison]

probably do what source does already, we need the 3dsky geo to move with the player

[compact blaze]

how does this affect perf?

[subtle bison]

not at all?

at least i dont think

[compact blaze]

Does the lake have a line around it or is it just me

[subtle bison]

ye its just how the replacement looks

its always been that way

[compact blaze]

shame

[subtle bison]

wdym shame? its probably just a blending issue with how the map geometry is

[compact blaze]

shame it looks kinda weird

[dusk wagon]

is this the closest we got to 3d sky working

[subtle bison]

its a start

[dusk wagon]

[subtle bison]

oddly static props only render when outside playable map bounds but hey i'm getting closer

🔥

☺️

[compact blaze]

did u get so annoyed remix wasn’t fixing anything to the point u decided to do it urself

[subtle bison]

well a lot of our issues arent inherently remix ones

even if some are, the fixes needed are usually game specific anyway

[compact blaze]

the floor looks so weird

[subtle bison]

its just using the normal map from the game

its a little too reflective for me but topbr has that issue in general already

[compact blaze]

is it an unfixable issue?

[subtle bison]

no?

[keen rivet]

that floor looks worse with a higher roughness trust me

looks like roblox

source shading model is very not at all capable of showing a little bit of reflection

the envmask is always full sharpness

[subtle bison]

ahh ahh doctor, im coming

[subtle bison]

btw 3dsky isnt enabled at all here, this is all in the main camera pass man i cooked so hard

[keen rivet]

so it relies on normal maps or high contrast noise heavy envmap mask for a percieved roughness

[keen rivet]

i'd argue its more reflective in hl2

[subtle bison]

perf mode becoming the defacto rendering mode

i can probably make an engine-friendly version so it works without perf mode on too

[keen rivet]

like it looks straight up wet in some spots in hl2 lol

[subtle bison]

bro has csm-life 2

or stupidly sharp lightmaps

[keen rivet]

uhh

oh i have hrcs installed

highres cubemap shadows

didnt realise

[compact blaze]

idk i think it looks kinda off at this angle and distance, kinda looks like it has no material at all

just a matte surface

[keen rivet]

oh man is this the amd experience? 🥀

[subtle bison]

can yall focus on the working 3d skybox? 😭 😭 😭 😭

[keen rivet]

lol

[loud mural]

It's great to see that the top of the citadel actually fades out as it should without marking it as water

But that's because your directly rendering the mesh I assume instead of doing whatever fuckery is done to get it to appear larger in Remix

[subtle bison]

yeah fighting remix with the sky camera was not worth it

i assume the same thing can be applied to infmap but i will have to fork it

[loud mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOcrTgkI8G0

Is this the same issue as before?

Or is it something different

[subtle bison]

maybe? does re-toggling RT fix it?

also does it show with RT off

[loud mural]

re-toggling doesn't fix it

and it doesn't show ith RT off

[subtle bison]

i guess remix still

[compact blaze]

what does it look like with RR and nrc?

[subtle bison]

i havent pushed it yet, still working out some bugs

[keen rivet]

DUDe my emails LMAOOOO

[loud mural]

oops

[keen rivet]

nah you're all good

its just funny

[loud mural]

God I just realized now how many people I've done that to lmao

[willow fog]

What if I steal black Mesa

[subtle bison]

progress ☺️

[willow fog]

Will Gmod list the map

[loud mural]

What's wrong with the blending on the grass?

[subtle bison]

auto categorization didnt catch it on this map load

[loud mural]

Ahh

[subtle bison]

since we're doing all of the 3dsky drawing in the main render pass, im setting up some AABB culling so we can cut off anything that intersects with the main world geometry

so we can avoid any depth fuckery

[loud mural]

Ayyyy

[subtle bison]

its a tad agressive

[loud mural]

ow

Do you know what's up with the skybox skyscrapers?

Like why are they gray?

[subtle bison]

yeah i was gonna mention that, its something happening on the engine side cuz it happens with normal 3d sky too

[loud mural]

Yeah I noticed

[subtle bison]

ropes are also black

i have no idea whats causing this

[loud mural]

What's weird is all of the skybox buildings appear black in the engine renderer but only that specific building prop gets fucked in Remix

[subtle bison]

ye it seems to bind a black texture for whatever reason

or maybe its the d3d9 device state getting corrupted

[loud mural]

I looked at the .vmt file and there's nothing strange about it

[subtle bison]

ye you just need the bms directory mounted via mount.cfg

[loud mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXGizS9TXZc

What in the what is this black circle following me for

Is this another Remix thing I assume?

[subtle bison]

probably an NRC bug?

i haven't seen this at all

try switching to restir gi

[loud mural]

Damn I reloaded the map and he went away

[subtle bison]

[loud mural]

What does the super portal look like lol?

[subtle bison]

you have to manually turn on r_3dsky since we arent using the sky camera, but its pretty broken lol

technically everything renders but only as a wireframe lol

i think the ep2 portal was all shader based iirc?

cannot wait to see what topbr does with the tf2 water

ok nvm it did nothing ☺️

pretty much everything other than gm_construct_rtx seems to work perfectly with the fake 3d sky lmao

so peak

[loud mural]

Yes it uses the VolumeClouds shader

[loud mural]

It's nice to see the beams working at least

[subtle bison]

[loud mural]

What's wrong with gm_construct_rtx?

[subtle bison]

overlapping geometry, im still working on the culling but i've been testing these other maps with it off

[loud mural]

Ahhh

Try d2_lostcoast

It has overlapping geo in the water

[subtle bison]

looks like its fine?

map geometry is weird but that looks to happen inside the playable map

[loud mural]

At 51 seconds when your looking at St. Olga over the cliffside in the water there's that really low res texture

That's the skybox leaking into the main map

[subtle bison]

guh

lemme get closer

OH i see it lmfao

its literally in the water

[loud mural]

Yup

[lean hatch]

Is this gmod specific

[loud mural]

Yes

[lean hatch]

Fuck

[subtle bison]

it fixes a lot of maps where the 3d sky is above the playable area

[loud mural]

Yeah I saw

I can't wait to try twins_2 with this

[subtle bison]

ill see if i can wire up a toggle cvar for it so i can push it as-is

because its currently all or nothing

[lean hatch]

The scale feels wrong

[subtle bison]

why

[lean hatch]

The buildings just feel small

Fsr

[subtle bison]

its the same scale as normal r_3dsky tho

[loud mural]

Probably because the mapper lowered them for this version of gm_construct

They do look smaller but they look like they aren't on those high concrete blocks like they are in og construct

[subtle bison]

[loud mural]

Yeah they are still on concrete blocks but they look shorter than normal

[loud mural]

@subtle bison I updated #86 with the map

[mild vigil]

yo im tryna downloaded rn. which ones better rtx remixed main or perf?

[loud mural]

perf is deprecated

It was merged into main

[mild vigil]

oh aight cool den

[subtle bison]

make sure to use the nightly build

[mild vigil]

in the advanced install settings?

[loud mural]

Yes

[mild vigil]

k thx

[subtle bison]

its also in the setup, but if you've already done it, make sure RTX Remix and Fixes Package are using the nightly versions

[mild vigil]

wait its set to proton version 10.0 should i change it to experimental instead?

[subtle bison]

yeah

10 probably works though

[mild vigil]

k. im gunna make broly touch netanyahu in rtx. wish me luck

[lean hatch]

Hello gmod crew

[subtle bison]

hi

[lean hatch]

Hru all

[loud mural]

h i

[subtle bison]

good

[lean hatch]

Glad to hear

[subtle bison]

hbu

[lean hatch]

Could be better, been sick all day and have to go to work still

[subtle bison]

yall wish me luck for a mending librarian

[subtle bison]

that sucks 😭

[lean hatch]

Migraine included

[subtle bison]

aww hell naw i cant do anything when i have a migraine

[subtle bison]

what the hell is this

[loud mural]

I'm so glad I don't get those, apparently I hear CBD is one of the only things that help with those

[loud mural]

What modpack are you using?

[loud mural]

gl

[subtle bison]

all the mods 10

[subtle bison]

oh if you get CDB with a bunch of THC its pure bliss

[lean hatch]

Yep

How it feels to medicate

And we would but work

[subtle bison]

yuh same here

random drug tests and the like

[lean hatch]

Cant really work on a migraine but you also cant while inebriated

[subtle bison]

hope you dont work at a long day factory

[lean hatch]

Unfortunately......

Its also bright af where we work so,,, yay

Off topic tho

[mild vigil]

Yo i cant move in game, the spawn menu and flahslight work. But other than that, i cant move my camera or player

[subtle bison]

it means your remix or fixes package isnt matching the other, ensure you did what i mentioned here ^

should look like this

[mild vigil]

Oh i effed up the fixes 2 one. I though i switched em

Now i downloaded it

Worked. Thx guys

[brittle token]

crustiest fit in the history of city 17

[subtle bison]

1 hour later ☺️

[lean hatch]

Mending

[loud mural]

Holy flip

How many enchantments are in that pack, Jesus

[subtle bison]

dude

like 100 at least

lmao

[loud mural]

God daymn

[loud mural]

Just a couple

[lean hatch]

"My enchanting book tier list"

[subtle bison]

lmao

[noble vapor]

wow this looks so cool

[half viper]

today is so bad people are talking about minecraft in garry's mod channel
the end is nigh

[subtle bison]

☺️

[half viper]

has this been pushed yet?

[subtle bison]

no

[ionic cipher]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3678249856&searchtext=

[brittle token]

9999 1% lows

ok seeing how much this game lets go of the GPU during the loading, that might actually be an actual number

[subtle bison]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yakuza-akiyama-shun-UZe3qVOkvNfjZSCBCs

gm chat

[onyx ridge]

have you 3x the framerate yet

[lean hatch]

Morning

[compact blaze]

wait u haven’t been awake this entire time?

[subtle bison]

yeah i actually sleep isn't that crazy?

[willow fog]

nah wtf

[compact blaze]

but it shows u as red

see

[subtle bison]

☺️
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/actions/runs/22727225767

[subtle bison]

[weak ermine]

its just

ep2

no rtx

i see no difference

[subtle bison]

but with 3d sky 🤓

with rtx

[weak ermine]

booo

rtx

goytx

0.5 fps

huang shiny jacket never gona force me to play with this dead technology

[subtle bison]

🥀

[loud mural]

Ayyyyyy!

[loud mural]

This is performance mode

[loud mural]

This is standard rendering

I turned off static prop PVS as well

Map: hazardous_ai0

[weak ermine]

u get ur 10 fps boost

what the problems

[loud mural]

No props is 0% nice

[weak ermine]

100% nice

who need them

[loud mural]

me

@subtle bison I finally got VS attached while a hang occured, what do I do now?

Because yes I am still getting hangs

[lean hatch]

poker night at the invetory is back

[subtle bison]

did it show an exception window?

[subtle bison]

how did you turn on the sky?

for perf its rtx_3dsky 1 or the 3d sky toggle in the performance menu

dont use the source engine one

[subtle bison]

workshop link? tried searching it manuallly but im not finding anything that looks like youe screenshots

[loud mural]

I used the 3D sky toggle in the UI

[loud mural]

It's a G-String map

[subtle bison]

gotcha, ill mount it rq

[loud mural]

Nope

[subtle bison]

guh

seems to be fine here?

oh

nevermind

im blind

[loud mural]

Yeahhhhh

[subtle bison]

im doing some trickery to make static prop coordinates in the 3dsky be in the main map space so the engine doesnt cull them, i wonder if gstrng does something special cuz it should work here

[lean hatch]

nvm, i just had to run it as admin

[loud mural]

Yeah G-String is really pushing some limits

[subtle bison]

so somehow treesway works in perf mode with hw skinning even tho its not turned on???? it doesnt even work on the engine side

i need to see how gm_fork looks

prob gonna run like ass

[subtle bison]

whoops i missed this, try pausing execution and see if the callstack shows anything from d3d9

[loud mural]

I'm away from home atm, I'll do that when I get home

[subtle bison]

runs at 16 fps but holy peak

[subtle bison]

gotcha

[loud mural]

Aren't there supposed to be a bunch of billboard trees in the skybox iirc?

[subtle bison]

ah yeah i was wondering why it looked so barren

i wonder what entities they are

ah the engine is just bugging out lol

they should come back after a restart

nvm

[subtle bison]

@loud mural dunno if you saw this comment
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/93#issuecomment-4002413697

[ionic cipher]

yay train ride

[subtle bison]

do you have GM+++ or whatever that player interaction addon is called installed?

your character movement looks different and that addon causes a bunch of rendering issues

if you have any of these, disable them
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/wiki/Problematic-Addons

[loud mural]

Yeah I saw this, I just didn't have time to try it. Thanks though

[loud mural]

Nothin

[subtle bison]

uhh

[subtle bison]

guh

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-face-cats-qZgHBlenHa1zKqy6Zn

if nothing is happeng there then where is it coming from

[loud mural]

I made sure I had Garry's Mod (x64) selceted

[subtle bison]

VS will catch a fatal exception so whatever it is, its stalling the process instead

weird that pausing/breaking isnt showing anything either

usually it will show some kind of NT wait/sync in the call stack if its stalled

how often do the hangs happen?

[loud mural]

Usually after I do a bunch of stuff in one instance of the game, then restart it and go back on the map I had just disconnected from

If I try a map that I hadn't played in the previous instance it doesn't freeze I think

It's such a weird hang

iirc I had this before topbr was a thing

[brittle token]

👀

[subtle bison]

so wait you're fully exiting the game?

[loud mural]

I tried all the tier0 s

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

huh???

this is so strange

i thought this was happening between subsequent map loads or something

[loud mural]

Sometimes it does

Sometimes it just happens after starting the game after a long session

[subtle bison]

it sounds driver related to me but i guess ill need to get an nvidia gpu to find out

i havent had any hangs like that

[loud mural]

Sometimes it will happen over and over again and then I won't have it happen for hours

It's really weird

and annoying as hell

But it is what it is

Can you try sp_a2_fizzler_intro

I can't get into that map

[subtle bison]

stuck on initializing world?

[loud mural]

Nope, stuck on Lua Started and Ready to Play

nvm

It literally just loaded after four retries

mb

[subtle bison]

bro what

[loud mural]

lmao

Just for you

[subtle bison]

i wouldnt even know what to do with it since ram is so expensive

meh i guess i could always use a backup mobo

[loud mural]

It's still weird to see an AMD bored with an LGA socket for me

[subtle bison]

yeah im used to the pin layout from AM4 and older gens still

[loud mural]

I'm glad they switched over though

LGA is better

[loud mural]

Okay can you try this map with GP2 installed?

It does keep hanging whenever I have it installed

I bet it has something to do with SolidEnergy my beloved

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison did u install the new 26 mesa driver?

[subtle bison]

ye

i've had it for a while with the git ver

but i switched to stable since the nee cache rendering bug isnt there

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison do u get a perf inprovement like this

[subtle bison]

no

remix did not get any faster lol

[loud mural]

I can't start any map with GP2 installed :c

[subtle bison]

rip my wallet

[loud mural]

o o o o f

[subtle bison]

back to nvidia ☺️

[loud mural]

wooop

Are you going to sell your AMD GPU?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[loud mural]

Nice

[lean hatch]

awesome!

[subtle bison]

i have had enough copium

come back to me RR my sweet prince

[loud mural]

Back to Shiba Reconstruction

Exactly

[lean hatch]

yeah cr

all im saying is its worth it somewhat in the long run for hobbies

[loud mural]

All bro does is eat RTX Remix and he had an AMD gpu

pain

[subtle bison]

tbf you get used to the visuals pretty quickly

so i was enjoying remix on AMD other than the driver instability

[potent agate]

I could sell my 64gb of ddr4 for RTX 5080, totally not coping

[subtle bison]

(i have not played an RE game since RE7)

"welcome to the family son"

[livid rapids]

The smoker in question

[subtle bison]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yakuza-akiyama-shun-Lvknpeoz3XMjpQpOR6

[compact blaze]

you could’ve waited a year for rubin 💔

[subtle bison]

who

[compact blaze]

the rubin architecture releasing in 2027-2028

the 60 series gpu

First die shrink since 40 series

extra NVfp4 acceleration leading to future proofing for fp4 dlss

[subtle bison]

yeah no way in hell would i wait for that

[compact blaze]

literally just wait a year

u already got a 9070

[subtle bison]

bruh ur insane

[compact blaze]

patience is good n stuff

[subtle bison]

naw im not waiting for prices to get 4x worse

[compact blaze]

idk what the saying is

[subtle bison]

patience is a virtue

[compact blaze]

u planning on selling ur 9070?

[subtle bison]

yeah its a sinking ship for remix

[compact blaze]

noooooo amd isnt :(

[subtle bison]

no SER or OMMs in hardware, plus the lack of any decent driver supprt from AMD

fuck yeah im getting rid of it

[subtle bison]

yeah it is if i have to keep buying a new GPU to support stuff Turing already had in 2018

dont get me wrong, the RX 9070 is literally perfect for raster games, i have no complaints there

great 4K gaming card

[subtle bison]

unity rtx or gmod

[compact blaze]

Hoping udna will reach that blackwell level

[lean hatch]

gmod

[subtle bison]

can you send the workshop link

im gonna see how they ported the UK maps

[lean hatch]

kk

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3404039240&searchtext=ultrakill

ooooooh cr you want to work on uk rtx ooooooo /silly

[subtle bison]

i do

😭

[lean hatch]

You should try that one thing the guy talked abt

[subtle bison]

decomp?

[lean hatch]

No the shader0 stuff

Although what you said abt bypassing

Shrug

[subtle bison]

huh

i got the memory of a goldfish

[subtle bison]

@compact blaze

finally got around to it

looks very good

ultra perf is very sharp now

motion looks very bad

[winter radish]

Leaked DLL spotted, reported to AMD military

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-mushroom-cloud-atomic-bomb-bomb-boom-gif-4464831

[subtle bison]

meh its my 9070's last days idc 🤓

[winter radish]

lol

[subtle bison]

this isnt freaky at all lmao

[lean hatch]

the next emisis blue leak?

[subtle bison]

6 driver crashes since my time on windows ☺️

time to go back to safety

[keen rivet]

Dude that sucks lol

@NV_Jensen see if you can get this guy a 5090 that fell off the back of a truck

[lean hatch]

When will we get rtx 9070

[subtle bison]

as in i bought a 5080

[subtle bison]

^

[keen rivet]

OOOO

[subtle bison]

🙂

[keen rivet]

does that mean you have a better gpu than me

[subtle bison]

its not as fast as a 4090 but its close

also 16gb of vram

[keen rivet]

but you can mfg

[subtle bison]

but its a substantial upgrade from my 9070 so i am perfectly happy

[keen rivet]

so full res DLSS at 144 😍

[subtle bison]

yeah playing gmod rtx at 4K 240 is gonna be awesome

i can finally utilize my monitor lmfao

[keen rivet]

things like this remind me i need to get a job 😔

[subtle bison]

💰

[subtle bison]

techpowerup my beloved

ngl its only 15% faster than my 9070

so raster probably wont be that much different but yeah i expect remix to run like 4x as fast or some shit even without MFG

[modern quest]

how much was it

we had a 4090 and switched to a 5080. reallllly the perf difference wasn't too noticeable

[subtle bison]

$1300

🙁

[modern quest]

😮

😖

ours was $1k

[loud mural]

I finally tried this and I wasn't able to find the texture

[onyx ridge]

i keep forgetting this emote exists

😖

[ionic cipher]

This is mine 5080
After UHD 730 on my old pc i felt like i can breathe

[weak ermine]

finally

https://tenor.com/view/you-couldn’t-live-thanos-endgame-back-to-me-you-could-not-live-gif-16221515858415007908

[subtle bison]

replied to the github issue with a video

[half viper]

https://tenor.com/view/starting-generator-gif-11373315

[loud mural]

For me there is no glint texture

And yes I'm using the BM compat addon

[half viper]

@subtle bison this is peak

[subtle bison]

3d sky?

[half viper]

yes

[subtle bison]

maybe try a clean install? those NPCs use the eyerefract shader

[weak ermine]

its just gopro real life photo

[half viper]

i have the brightness set to 10

[subtle bison]

i'd say the sun brightness is probably one of the more un-natural parts

or maybe its just the lack of sky indirect light contribution

btw @half viper what is your ingame fps without MFG

i wanna know how well the 50 series runs remix

[half viper]

40ish

in this map

its a 5070

[half viper]

is there a specific map you want me to test?

[subtle bison]

naw

[subtle bison]

what dlss preset

[half viper]

quality at 2k

[subtle bison]

guh

[subtle bison]

bro did a nuke go off

[half viper]

70fps~ on flatgrass

[half viper]

i like my sun bright

least bright summer in middle east

[subtle bison]

fair

[weak ermine]

ohhh

ohhh

i coming doctor

[subtle bison]

guh where did these bricks come from

topbr is not that good 🤓

[weak ermine]

i think its

[loud mural]

Tried it, same result

[weak ermine]

ambientcg

[subtle bison]

uhh

[half viper]

stole it from god knows where

[weak ermine]

booo

stole

[half viper]

same with the grass

though the grass normals arent powerful enough

so it still looks flat

[weak ermine]

maybe used bcz its free✨

[half viper]

they look good enough on 10 times more powerful

using displacement for grass is a bad idea

[weak ermine]

per texture material sliders when

vol cl when

cool water when

hopium administered

[subtle bison]

only the BMS support addon was enabled? I cant think of anything that would break this. Do other NPCs work?

[loud mural]

Yes

[subtle bison]

guhh

do they work in vanilla gmod

im running out of ideas

[loud mural]

Even on the same map other NPCs work

[subtle bison]

do they work with RT off?

[loud mural]

Not really

[subtle bison]

guh

[loud mural]

They worked for the first couple of seconds

Now it's just the white eyes again

[subtle bison]

ok so if its broken in vanilla gmod then its probably not remix or the eye patches?

[loud mural]

Yeah

That's so odd

[subtle bison]

how did you mount black mesa? the mount.cfg method?

[loud mural]

Yes

Using the newest version ofc of BM

[subtle bison]

ye same here

[half viper]

i need more maps

does anyone have interesting maps

something thats actually fun to play in

[subtle bison]

all of the void maps

because cool lore

[half viper]

@subtle bison where can i find the usda fixes

for hl2rtx

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/rtx-usda-fixes

[half viper]

https://tenor.com/view/starting-generator-gif-11373315

[loud mural]

What is that even supposed to mean lol?

[half viper]

i should have a counter for how many times gmod crashed

3/4 times the game crashes on startup

or crashes during loading materials

or during loading the map

or when playing the map

i should no clip less

[subtle bison]

guh

it crashes when you noclip?

[lean hatch]

kyoob is not made for remix

does the nightly not have topbr anymore

how do i turn it on?

[half viper]

going from an enclosed place to an open space using no clip does it i think

idk

its so random

[lean hatch]

nvm

[half viper]

its just super unstable with hl2rtx materials

[lean hatch]

well actually yes tpb still isnt working

[half viper]

weird
you have the skybox one right?

should be there

[lean hatch]

no its there as a setting now but its just not working

like this

this used to work with topbr

[subtle bison]

i havent changed how topbr works, the only difference is how/when it writes the materials so remix doesnt die from upload overload

[subtle bison]

so it might take a minute or two for everything to apply

[lean hatch]

ah

[loud mural]

I found when enabling it for the first time I had to restart the game two or three times to get it to apply

[lean hatch]

so i have to wait

is what youre sayin

[loud mural]

Then it starts working after that for me consistently

[lean hatch]

ive already tried that

guess ill js have to wait then

[subtle bison]

it only takes one game reboot for remix to see the mod

i can fix this by including the mod with the nightly so its loaded from the get-go

[subtle bison]

did you use the minecraft-ify option or something

[loud mural]

Yeah probably a good idea

[subtle bison]

lots of stuff looks broken in your screenshot

[lean hatch]

gm_uk_replacement

[subtle bison]

ah

[subtle bison]

so this only happens with hl2rtx assets mounted? I havent experienced any game crashes, just driver ones.

For nvidia specifically, you need to disable texture sampling

if its on, it causes a lot of stability issues with streaming

so that might explain the noclipping crashing it

[lean hatch]

the only thing in the mod folder for me is just base mod

[half viper]

enable it ingame

[subtle bison]

oops i meant sampler feedback

try turning it off and see if the crashes go away

[lean hatch]

is it not

[subtle bison]

its off by default

[lean hatch]

oh

how do i turn it on

[subtle bison]

the spawnmenu

its called toPBR

[lean hatch]

oh i have that on

i thought they meant the base mod

maybe my install is fucked

[subtle bison]

looks very fucked lmao

[lean hatch]

lemme reinstalll

uuuurgh

[half viper]

ughhh

keeps crashing while loading the materials

in the main menu

[subtle bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1116089843479498782/1479572491100754010/image.png?ex=69ac86c3&is=69ab3543&hm=ad11a4239c7476ee0b89bf9505bb650952b6d09c692c8d5f7a8fb19de3205e03&

[half viper]

turned off

its quite literally a matter of luck

sometimes it works

[subtle bison]

i guess ill find the issue soon when i get my 5080, hl2rtx replacements are stable for me

[half viper]

sometimes it doesnt

[lean hatch]

fresh gmod, fresh rtx install and its still all fucked

[subtle bison]

did you load in with addons disabled

and also check if your vanilla gmod isnt modified

[lean hatch]

i do have addons dissabled

[subtle bison]

it looks like nothing on the lua-side is loading

what steps did you do to install gmod rtx

[lean hatch]

installed the simple instller then the advanced install

loaded nightly

[subtle bison]

you can do nightly directly from the setup page

[subtle bison]

ok but like what folder did you do it in

[lean hatch]

desktop

[subtle bison]

that might be why its broken

are you signed in with a microsoft account

[lean hatch]

yes

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed?tab=readme-ov-file#installation

make a sub folder in downloads or something

@keen rivet i know you dont like appdata but i think im gonna force my hand and standardize the gmod rtx install location
ill leave an option to make it work where the launcher is placed but this will just make things so much simpler

[lean hatch]

how do i do the nightly through the quick install

[subtle bison]

it gives you a choice between stable and nightly

you might need to download the newest launcher

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/releases/tag/nightly

[lean hatch]

im gonna delete the gmod stuff inside then reinstall

[subtle bison]

same issue is applying, did microslop start enabling onedrive sync on downloads or something?

it fucks up symlinks and other stuff which is causing those issues in your screenshot

[weak ermine]

i just created folder "gmodrtx" in steamapps/common

[subtle bison]

that only works if its not on the C:\ drive due to permissions in the program files folder

[lean hatch]

ok fresh install

in the downloads folder

with onedrive off

maybe

or should i not do it in downloads

am i dumb

awesome, nothing changed

sounds like a good time for a nap cya all later

Sorry I sounded pissy there

[weak ermine]

farty

[half viper]

@subtle bison could you fix admin clean up forcing all geometry to be rebuilt?

[subtle bison]

ye

[subtle bison]

so you did what I did here? (ik its linux but the steps are identical on windows)

[lean hatch]

Yes

[subtle bison]

try it this way:

1. verify game files for vanilla gmod on steam
2. once thats done, open vanilla gmod and load into a map, then exit it
3. make a gmod rtx install somewhere like C:\gmodrtx (or even your user folder like this: `C:\Users\cr\gmodrtx)
4. do nightly quick install

if that still doesnt work then some unknown factor in your setup is messing up the install.

[lean hatch]

I will but im to sick rn im gonna nap first

[subtle bison]

sounds good

i see why smooth normals dont work lol

[compact blaze]

why does this option exist if it causes issues

[compact blaze]

why doe?

[weak ermine]

maybe it works in other games

[subtle bison]

because the model geometry is that fucked up

part of his back is pointy lol

[weak ermine]

nah its bcz gman is too powerful to be smoothed

[subtle bison]

idk, but i remember running into it when i had my 2080

if i got too close to a specific replacment, instant game crash

[keen rivet]

I was thinking it should ask like an installer

[subtle bison]

ok but it still defaults to appdata 🤓

[brittle token]

the russian gm_construct map (and even just loading the assets of it) causes gmod rtx to crash