Garry's Mod

[subtle bison]

what resolution?

i often ran remix at 900p with dlss ultra performance when i had my 2080

[zealous narwhal]

1920x1080 ultra performance (640x360)

[uneven vale]

I finally achieved 60 fps at 1440p with transformer model dlss (performance mode) on gm_construct (physical skybox)

[compact blaze]

thats a demon

What did u do to have a filter like that?

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison gp2 update

[subtle bison]

reshade probably?

it works on x64 remix

[brittle token]

sounds like a model issue to me (or maybe sky brightness)

i wouldnt expect a space constant nuclear explosion to not be 🔥

[brittle token]

its from a vhs style reshade for cyberpunk 2077. it got fairly famous 2 months ago on reddit. i think it was called "alternative tapes" or somrthing

got the name completely wrong.

https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/26915?tab=description

[modern quest]

this is very much not close to how VHS looks 😆

[brittle token]

i modified the preset a bit so that the image looked sharper and didn't have the borders

[modern quest]

their example images are good though. it really does need to be a lower res to work right

[brittle token]

tried to get a more vintage camera look to it instead too

[brittle token]

i dont think it actually has lower res. just blurrier and cropped to a different aspect ratio

[modern quest]

here's the output from my VHS simulation script. it's accurate enough that it can be used to train models to restore VHS tapes

[brittle token]

though one did have interlaced with 480

[modern quest]

4:3 480p

[brittle token]

isn't it not affecting the colors enough?

[modern quest]

it is pretty impressive for reshade tbh

[modern quest]

a lot of the color shift you see on VHS and stuff is actually nowhere near as bad as people usually think

it's pretty minor in reality. iirc it's from color space differences

[willow fog]

I wonder if you can figure out the math behind VHS degradation and use it to create data.

[modern quest]

that's what this is

[willow fog]

Well you could do this but even more accurate

[modern quest]

no like

[modern quest]

this simulates the actual processes used for NTSC conversion. the rainbows, dot crawl, everything are incredibly accurate to real conversions

enough that i was able to train an AI model to restore real VHS tapes using this simulation

[willow fog]

Ah

[modern quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056847194809970748/1476427136259850380/MASTER_TUGS_Sizzler3min_processed.mp4?ex=69a1156b&is=699fc3eb&hm=64440c4d2916eddd472bf161d8e525cedfc1dfdd76062cdb42a29d6406d87217&

[willow fog]

I should try this shader out

Where the link at

[modern quest]

mine isn't a shader, it's a simulator written in rust
https://github.com/Kim2091/ntsc-simulator

i can DM you the built exe to mess around with if you want

[willow fog]

Sure

[brittle token]

this one's a standalone program too

https://ntsc.rs/

[modern quest]

i messed around with it before iirc. it's a lot less accurate

like it's easier to use and looks probably more like what people expect, but it didn't work well for datasets at least, meaning there's some kind of inaccuracy

[brittle token]

vhs degrades over time right? maybe it simulates that

[modern quest]

mine simulates that

i don't think this one does

[wispy crest]

generation loss

[brittle token]

god damn

[subtle bison]

bro is loading the whole gta 5 map

[subtle bison]

wtf

are spawnmenu icons not rendered via render targets???

remix doesnt see this other view at all the fuck?????

[brittle token]

bogus binted

[brittle token]

it was rp_nycity, couldn't even finish loading it 🥹

[subtle bison]

weird, that map has worked for me in the past

[brittle token]

me and the boys sitting to watch the GREY

[subtle bison]

seems to work fine?

make sure to load in with perf mode already on

otherwise it runs like this lmfao

[brittle token]

it just reaches critical mass and crashes lol

[subtle bison]

wow i shoulda tested the night map ver first 🤩

[subtle bison]

cuh how much ram do you have

[brittle token]

16 gb

[subtle bison]

what is using the other 12

oh wait that says 6gb

[brittle token]

idk. i'd like to know too

but task manager is fucking useless

[subtle bison]

wow 8.3gb for me lmao

[brittle token]

im going to try to start it after a restart

[subtle bison]

good lawd that is a lot of lights

who needs the day version of the map when you have the physical sky 🌞

[brittle token]

taking this corner makes my FPS go to hell

there even are like. 3 spatiotemporal anomalies on that screenshot

[subtle bison]

last frame before gpu bursts into flames

[brittle token]

i got that 0 (1%lows)

and it crashed

[brittle token]

at least the 3 bar loading actually finished this time though

[subtle bison]

how mmuch ram u got leftt

holy crap my entire pc is chugging

[modern quest]

vram?

[subtle bison]

nah my desktop compositor doesnt support tear free corectlyyy, so if gmod is using 100% of the gpu, eeverything elsee struggles

omfg lmfaoo

barely any vram used surprisingly

[subtle bison]

good lawd

i assume the only addon enabled is the map?

[brittle token]

nop

[subtle bison]

im surprised mine is using less than yours

ah

[brittle token]

no idea what addon could be grabbing up that much

just disabled them all minus the map, hopefully it work

yep, it works now, imma go murder an addon

actually. nvm, i dont want to have the crash not even a single time more 😭

[subtle bison]

i have a feeling this has to do with some d3d9 fuckery because i remember in 2023, a specific portal rtx remix build had spawnicons working and also screenshots

time to investigate 🕵️

shit it even had depth buffer passthrough for reshade

#1116089843479498782 message

[brittle token]

(please ignore the GREY road, i beat it up with the "decal" stick right after the screenshot)

would probably be nice to have either a progress bar or something showing the current texture in toPBR

[subtle bison]

2nd looks like it got jpeg-ified

1st looks

[brittle token]

big map

huh, never saw that before

strangely. stuff do be loading to the sides

[subtle bison]

guh what map is this

[brittle token]

rp_asheville i think

static props started loading

and i think toPBR was enabled. so that's going on too lol

[subtle bison]

yeah topbr is really heavy, so loading a big map with it is a death sentence lol

oh hey the ep1 citadel storm works now , particles blend a lil too much tho

raster for comparison

camera tool IS FIXED

had to modify the runtime to fetch the render target backbuffer when the game takes screenshots

this also sort of fixes offscreen render targets like spawn icons???

its all blue but its a start i guess lol

[brittle token]

still havent crashed. goes to show how much that unknown addon fucked it up lol

[subtle bison]

yep it also fixes the spawnicon editor

[brittle token]

ok, i t hink it loaded. even if it doesn't look like it did

physical atmosphere is damn good

bro i took this one and some seconds later heard the interloper chime

https://tenor.com/view/interloper-gmod-garrys-mod-umbrella-man-umbrella-gif-8807737941865211622

https://tenor.com/view/error-sign-interloper-vrad-gif-17892410714426301608

[brittle token]

HOLY SHI-

got blasted on the face with one for standing in front of it lol

[subtle bison]

i guess since adding all of the shader backports, the windows in the brutalist map can finally be ignored

man this map is pretty

[brittle token]

YEAAAHHH

[subtle bison]

observe as all of this alpha-foliage destroys my GPU

lmao the video fps is gone

[subtle bison]

bro this looks like one of those "ultra rtx hdr super realism" reshade presets you see on nexusmods 🥀

[brittle token]

fuck it i aint posting shit no more, yall blind

[subtle bison]

to what?

[modern quest]

i'm pretty sure it's the VHS simulation thing

[subtle bison]

uhh dutch you ok? 😂

for some reason vertex colors cause this

lol

[weak ermine]

oh god

noise

🤮

[subtle bison]

these rdr2 model ports are so good

[weak ermine]

ITS JOHN MARSTON MICAHH

why no one ported rdr1 map to infmap

[lean hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bernardson-silly-goober-silly-cat-gif-3512342629753561110

Bevause

Infmap suxks

[weak ermine]

make u eat babys rtx

[subtle bison]

im literally trying to get infmap to work rn lmao

it should also fix 3d sky for perf mode

[weak ermine]

i know

im in ur wals

[subtle bison]

hi

[weak ermine]

hi

[subtle bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139352699180163112/1476812724951322819/attachment.gif

[keen rivet]

Guh

Ohh I see, The vhs effect is hard to see on mobile

[onyx ridge]

oh i need to try this again

i remember last time i did most of the map was invisible because of material limits

[compact blaze]

how’s it compared to other vhs simulators?

[compact blaze]

try use alan wake’s model pls

[ionic cipher]

It is already... (good morning btw)

[modern quest]

all i know is mine is extremely accurate, enough to train AI restoration models on. i couldn't achieve this with other ones i tried

[compact blaze]

is there a link for it?

[modern quest]

https://github.com/Kim2091/ntsc-simulator

[compact blaze]

imagine this in real time

[modern quest]

it runs at 180 FPS for me

[subtle bison]

you still have the old perf fixes package installed

[compact blaze]

how come other vhs simulators have to be rendered for full effect?

[modern quest]

what do you mean?

[ionic cipher]

Switched to Xenthio, now it works fine
only sambow23 breaks camera dunno why

[subtle bison]

perf fork isnt being updated anymore, the remix runtime and fixes packages share a remix header that need to match on both ends

[ionic cipher]

thats sad

[subtle bison]

the perf fork got merged into the xenthio one, it's called Performance Mode in the spawn menu

[ionic cipher]

oh

[lean hatch]

Good morning gmod chat

[modern quest]

👋

[lean hatch]

Today we are going to be expelling spells in rtx

Maybe

[modern quest]

is gmod worth living for

[lean hatch]

Idk

[compact blaze]

Ntsc simulator i remember using had to pre render the effect for the full effect

[lean hatch]

We really don't enjoy gmod outside of the 2 weel gmod phase

Week*

[modern quest]

i honestly don't know why that'd be necessary

we don't enjoy gmod at all lol

[subtle bison]

guh

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[weak ermine]

yes

[compact blaze]

gmod is worth living for

unironically so happy im alive

big ups to me for not getting hit by a car or smth

got to see gmod remix

[modern quest]

🙏

[subtle bison]

what does the confounded emoji mean @modern quest

[lean hatch]

This emoji?

[subtle bison]

guh

[weak ermine]

guh

[lean hatch]

Its metal gear rising revengance with rtx

[subtle bison]

yuh

[lean hatch]

Oh do you not mean that one

[modern quest]

did u guys know gmod runs on source?? 👀

[weak ermine]

isn't it goldsource

garry sause

[subtle bison]

OMG NO WAYYYY WHAT!!??!???!??!?!?!?!?!!!

🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 v

oops i meant to reply to kim lmao

[lean hatch]

I genuinely didn't know

Oh lmao

[subtle bison]

i am on a cooking streak

decals now work in performance mode

like all of them

as always the changes are live in nightly

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-cook-cookin-M6bJf9VBmrN1qTtPyL

[subtle bison]

i have defeated the abused $selfillium usage that made stuff randomly emissive

runtime will only allow legacy emissives on stuff that actually has an alpha channel

but you can manually force it if needed

ahhhh yeah this is peak

[weak ermine]

volu clou😭🥀🙏

[subtle bison]

naw im in bug fix mode

[weak ermine]

okay

water fixed?

[subtle bison]

naw that shit is a pita

it will get fixed but not rn

the new shader backport is available but we still using dev_monitor for rn

[subtle bison]

fixed the smooth normal crashes but yeah something is weird with NPCs because it dont do shit

[half viper]

are bullethole decals replaceable? afair their hashes changed with every restart

i'd love to replace them

parallax bulletholes 🤤

[subtle bison]

no idea, havent tried it

at one point the hl2rtx decal replacements worked

smooth normals seem to be broken in general in gmod lol

without

i've added a global option to enable smooth normals and uhh yeah....

holy shit hl2rtx grigori is a crackhead

fixed it, for some reason the hl2rtx model uses a reaaaallly small iris scale

[weak ermine]

i remember someone showed that smooth normals on maps parts always fucked, no matter what game is

[subtle bison]

[weak ermine]

bruh i thought 1 screenshot is without and 2 is with

🥀

[compact blaze]

NOOOOOOO

[subtle bison]

ok so why is performance mode correctly loading the hl2rtx ver of the mapp

meanwhile vanilla shows the old hl2 one

the fuck

how is this even possible

[weak ermine]

fuck

ravenholm at morning looks so sexy

[subtle bison]

yuh atmos sky is peak

lighting is completely broken on ravenholm for some reason

[weak ermine]

nuh uh

its gonna be peak only when vol clo release

[subtle bison]

🥀

most blood replacements work except the main one some how

[half viper]

bulletholes and blood share the same texture

its probably why it cannot be replaced

[subtle bison]

i pray the hashes are stable

im gonna try changing the hash in the USDA

[compact blaze]

bullet holes in hl2 rtx have parallax

and you could always edit that atlas texture if thats the right term

[compact blaze]

thats how u know perf mode is peak

[half viper]

just checked, you are right
it doesnt seem like they changed anything with how these decals work though

i do remember those decals hashes changing with every launch

could be gmod issue

[half viper]

that or they modified their game to be replaceable

[brittle token]

strange, ray reconstruction doesn't like these pipes

(cp_sunshine)

[subtle bison]

whats wrong with them

[brittle token]

they wiggly

they bobble and swibble

[subtle bison]

what the hell

[modern quest]

i wish i could pin this

[willow fog]

Do not KY self. You will never get to see what Gmod with RTX looks like once hl2 rtx is fully released. Wouldn't that be a shame?

[brittle token]

oh god, they wiggly. because for some reason it had the water texture flag on

disabling that flag on the prop makes them stiff

[willow fog]

Stiffy

[brittle token]

truly terminology

are smooth normal only on a new nightly or something? they sound kinda neat

[subtle bison]

ye but they broken as fuck

#1116089843479498782 message

[brittle token]

oohhh my god. the bubbly switch. it causes everything to rounden up. i wonder if it'd look better on something like a night map

that might be just the displacement being low poly though, might not get fixed by it

lämp

[zealous narwhal]

rp_dunwood finally has actual lighting

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1974653004

[brittle token]

is it normal for the USDA fixes to take a bit?

[subtle bison]

no

its usually instant

[brittle token]

damn

ok.. so it appears mounting games was not just that. what does it wants to find? the USD from hl2 rtx?

[subtle bison]

ye

what does the mounted hl2rtx folder look like

[brittle token]

not sure what that would mean, the install folder?

(im copying the mod folder inside of rtx-remix/mods over to the same place but in the gmod rtx)

[subtle bison]

nah like the hl2rtx folder inside of (yourgmodrtx)/rtx-remix/mods

[modern quest]

i will live for barnyard rtx with all of the cows and voice lines replaced with HL2 characters

[subtle bison]

uhh dont

[brittle token]

uhh, oki

[subtle bison]

the launcher symlinks all of the required hl2rtx files so nothing takes up extra space

[willow fog]

Barnyard shall be remixed

[brittle token]

(modd it's just a little mod i did when i was bored)

[subtle bison]

so i would verify the integrity of your hl2rtx install, close and reopen the launcher, and mount it again

[subtle bison]

i wanna see what that would be like

a fever dream for sure

but an entertaining one

[zealous narwhal]

TF is happening on Kiryu's back

[subtle bison]

is that the flexible normals addon or whatever

[brittle token]

it doesn't seem to make a symlink or. well. anything

[zealous narwhal]

No

[subtle bison]

also a yakuza game mode????

[subtle bison]

uhh something is wrong

what does your hl2rtx install look like

[zealous narwhal]

No, it's just NPCs

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2845609286

Why am I getting so many embed fails today

[subtle bison]

mind blown

[willow fog]

I'm still looking for an addon that spawns enemies randomly for me to fight endlessly

[subtle bison]

how did i not find this sooner

[subtle bison]

and rtx-remix/mods?

[subtle bison]

i wonder if the launcher is just failing to find that drive

cuz it with the game installed to an F:\ drive on windows and my local one on linux

[brittle token]

maybe. but it did detect this normally. so im not sure why

[subtle bison]

so nothing happens at all when you mount hl2rtx?

maybe try running launcher as admin?

[brittle token]

didn't seem to make a difference

[subtle bison]

what does logs show

[subtle bison]

guh thats not the log

[subtle bison]

[brittle token]

lmao

the emoji switch

[subtle bison]

holy peak https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3246252281 holy shit

steam embed where are you

[brittle token]

garrykuza

(epic embed fail tho unu)

[subtle bison]

so what if you refresh the rtx-remix/mods folder in file explorer

there should be a folder called mount-hl2rtx or something in there

[brittle token]

f5 doesnt change anything (it do refresh)

[subtle bison]

🥹

[brittle token]

and refreshing on the mod tab shows this

so. no hl2rtx 😭

[subtle bison]

you could copy over the hl2rtx mod folder manually

would take up a lot of space but it should load

[brittle token]

yep, did that. ctrl+X'ed it to make it faster. rip hl2rtx. the implant shall hopefully be accepted by the recipient

[subtle bison]

looks to be an issue with vertex normals, unfortunately smooth normals doesnt seem to fix it 🙁
only model i found without the issue so far is shirtless kiyru lmao

[brittle token]

missing the grass for some reason, but everything else seems to be workin

[subtle bison]

you might need to copy over the source engine map, it has anchors to spawn the grass

its not a normal replacement

[brittle token]

ok, well. maybe not everything

[subtle bison]

this is so fucking peak

time to add 100+ hours to this addon alone

[zealous narwhal]

Shirtless kiryu doesn't have black squares?

[subtle bison]

^

a model porting issue i presume

[brittle token]

too sexy for his shirt

[zealous narwhal]

There'll be a better version of these NPCs coming out soon, it's called Like a Dragon: Source

[subtle bison]

oh shit i think i saw the trailer for that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DNbLen54DU

[zealous narwhal]

TF

[subtle bison]

mark the tatoo as decal

[lean hatch]

Hmmmmm

I wonder if gmod has an axo from fortnite pm

[zealous narwhal]

That fixed it :)

[lean hatch]

Cr can you pretty pretty please check

[brittle token]

blade

[zealous narwhal]

Also his neck and beard are missing, marking them as decal works too

[subtle bison]

man the gmod workshop has some sussy models

closest not nsfw result

[lean hatch]

For axo???

[zealous narwhal]

Gonna record shibusawa fight, I'll brb

[subtle bison]

lol yeah

[lean hatch]

Jesus christ

[lean hatch]

I dont wanna have to port it myselfffff

Idk how to make a playermodellll

[subtle bison]

https://giphy.com/gifs/malcolmfrance-reaction-television-classic-K8WeQVlvzBWh8BaPnn

[lean hatch]

What, do you

[subtle bison]

not directly, i just know its not fun

[lean hatch]

I have the model itself

But

Urggh

[brittle token]

maybe it's somewhere in this one?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1811940956

[zealous narwhal]

TF is going on with bro's head

[subtle bison]

lmao

damn why shibusawa oiled up

[zealous narwhal]

Marking as decal fixes it all

[brittle token]

why he looks so real

[lean hatch]

Hoping

[brittle token]

and kinda oiled

[zealous narwhal]

Yume Dream of every yakuza fan

[brittle token]

oh shittt

fortnite

[lean hatch]

Is axo in there

[brittle token]

cant seem to find them

[lean hatch]

Fuckkkkkkkk

[lean hatch]

Guess i gotta port it myself

Pbr and all

[willow fog]

Spice gives me an erection so hard that it's almost painful

My dingaling hurt

[lean hatch]

Well pbr via remix

[brittle token]

spicy

[subtle bison]

kriyu in cutscenes be like

bro... 😭

fuckin finally

GO MY OILED UP KIYRU'S

[zealous narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnfSBKatfkY

Excuse my terrible gameplay as I have not played with this addon in a while

[brittle token]

this is so cursed

[subtle bison]

holy shit this is crazy lmao

[brittle token]

this hl2 house is photophobic

sun shining and i cant see shit

it seems it was NRC NRCing

restir worked

the lighting in this image is so fake

[modern quest]

Gordon Freecow and G-Cow

[compact blaze]

with transformer?

[brittle token]

i think it was actually cnn. but the main cause of the swiggly was the water texture flag

[compact blaze]

use transformer my goat

[brittle token]

my gpu kinda old 🥹 (3080 ti)

[compact blaze]

come onnnnnn try it

[brittle token]

yea i know, just havent gotten around to setting it as a default on the new branch. cnn got them fps going high

how do i get this fucking thing offffff 🔥 💥 🔫

accurate noclipping mid air lol

[zealous narwhal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3669954381
Physical atmosphere gets very close to replicating the dark atmosphere this map has wow

There we go

This would probably look better with HDR

[zealous narwhal]

Steam why the hell do you compress the shit out of screenshots

[compact blaze]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3656742470

someone run this thru autopbr

[half viper]

one outdoors

[compact blaze]

Cods of duty

metal looks a bit fake sadly

[subtle bison]

topbr has an optional metallic mode but it breaks other stuff

[half viper]

i had it enabled

oh btw

[subtle bison]

oh

[half viper]

it seems like the light beams billboard texture is not being ignored anymore

why is that?

[subtle bison]

cuz they werent rendering beforehand

i added a hash to the rtx.conf to ignore them

does it not work?

[half viper]

it changes

[subtle bison]

[half viper]

with every launch

[subtle bison]

this fuckin engine

[half viper]

auto catgorize that ignores light beams 🥺

[subtle bison]

yeah i've been meaning to add a manual list for it to tag stuff as

[subtle bison]

ehh i think im just gonna replace the vtf with a transparent texture so it just doesnt show at all

i did the same thing for the gravity gun beam

@half viper still building but i fixed it
https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/commit/bf8e1e248b4835269fdf3aa48542cbc77c468fb6

[half viper]

thank god

btw why is it building for 32bit aswell?

[subtle bison]

idk because why not

x32 works but just doesnt get the fun stuff

[keen rivet]

i want to fix up 32 bit lol

just never got around to it

network_test branch is great but its 32bit only

[subtle bison]

? it does work

at least since the last time i fixed it like 2 months ago

[keen rivet]

oh i meant like for some of the newer features

[subtle bison]

oh like the remix api stuff?

[brittle token]

tried activating smooth normal on tf2 medic's syringe gun glass barrel (idk, it was glowing and i was trying to fix it) and it crashed

[subtle bison]

update your runtime

[brittle token]

also, toPBR is a godsent 🔥 it looks so damn good

though i think some textures weren't made with ray tracing in mind, it's still nice

[brittle token]

can i do it through the advanced install tab instead? kinda getting tired of re-installing

[subtle bison]

ye

you shouldnt have to reinstall at all unless something broke

[brittle token]

im broke, do i need to re install my wallet 🥺

[subtle bison]

yuh

[brittle token]

gman kinda menacing like that

i mean, at least the explosion is gone. sadly alongside everything else

[subtle bison]

turn off pvs culling if u have perf mode on, its borked in a lot of hl2 maps

also guh what happened to your eyes

[brittle token]

that fixed it, thanks :D

[brittle token]

yeah idk what's up with that

[subtle bison]

try relaunching the game? the eye patches sometimes dont work when switching maps

i havent been able to reproduce it consistently enough to track down on why that happens

[brittle token]

yep, i think it works now

👁️

[subtle bison]

[brittle token]

metrocop 1 and 2 are doing their job. but metrocop 3 is straight up just farming aura

[steel lark]

wow that's looks good

[brittle token]

this' what the hl2 movie will look like in 2015

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kai-cenat-interruption-meme-funny-son-gif-12073453477776311884

[sonic apex]

@subtle bison you interested in a bleeding edge tonemapper? know of something in testing right now

[subtle bison]

[sonic apex]

it's in the renodx server
can dm you an invite

[compact blaze]

whats it called?

[sonic apex]

PsychoTM

[woeful phoenix]

@subtle bison apologies I have been very busy with personal things this last few weeks

was there still stuff you needed from me?

[subtle bison]

no worries, it was something about getting the hw skinning hashes to match hl2rtx's

[compact blaze]

is there any showcase to its visuals?

[sonic apex]

all the screenshots I've seen are hdr pngs so they're not super sharable

[loud mural]

Any idea why this happens sometimes when I take out the physgun or gravity gun?

HW Skinning is off btw

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison thoughts on custom gmod launcher for probably better multiplayer support?

[subtle bison]

sounds good to me

[subtle bison]

replied to the github issue first, but it's an old nvidia driver bug

if you can reproduce it consistently I would make an issue in the rtx-remix repo https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix

[loud mural]

Whoops, my bad

Should I close that issue I made on your repo?

[subtle bison]

naw leave it open

[keen rivet]

PBR 😍

[loud mural]

Yeah topbr is very pretty even if it's a bit broken lol

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/64

idk if this is a gmod rtx issue or another Remix issue

It's really odd

[loud mural]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/issues/51

Not quite sadly

[compact blaze]

thats an insane screenshot of gmod rtx

[loud mural]

Yeah HL2 is beautiful with gmod RTX and topbr

It's incredible how modern Valve's approach to material rendering was back then and especially how much and how well the artists took advantage of it. I think a lot of it comes down to how realistically the enviorments have decayed or are at different stages of decay by the time you've gotten to them. Like these windows really look like they haven't been cleaned in 20 years and reflect like as such. Path Tracing just brings all that material work into light

[half viper]

noticed that too
its like there is a line of shadow that seperates on screen and off screen reflections

[loud mural]

Yeah it even seems to render shadows for which there are no objects for

It's really weird

[subtle bison]

what textures are these?

[weak ermine]

hl2

i guess

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-valve-steam-meme-ai-gif-11963374429514166959

[weak ermine]

NNOOOOOOOOOO

WHAT U JUST DID

WHY

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[willow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-go-my-steam-happy-steamhappy-steam-funny-gif-3051835105049511162

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-boykisser-ominous-stare-gif-1854943194524266546

[weak ermine]

if u don't know that before

i have very bad news for u

like

very

[subtle bison]

it meant on a more philosophical level but ok

[weak ermine]

ur steamhappy gonna vanish from ur emotions on steam

[weak ermine]

uh u about that

nuh its not true

[subtle bison]

i have literally never seen this detail on my AMD gpu 🥀

[weak ermine]

amd potater

[lean hatch]

That rtx 6 billion 90 with ultra graphics processing and direct x 23 support is looking good right about now

[subtle bison]

maybe remix? I'll need to see if that happens on my end

[lean hatch]

Ill hold my tounge on the worst message I dunno kf you where here for the mr x stuff

[subtle bison]

wdym that was peak

[lean hatch]

He does and will forever hold the award for worst message

I dont remember the exact words but he was telling me and burrito to look out in the next few months cuz he worked for both a graphics card company and the mafia

[weak ermine]

who

pls

let me know

i wanna know

[subtle bison]

wasn't there also the dude who was a friend of mr x who posted almost borderline pornographic gmod rtx screenshots. He claimed he was some sort of texture artist or modeling expert

he showed up shortly after mr x left iirc

[lean hatch]

Yeah although let's be real he was probably mr x

[subtle bison]

lmao mr x alter ego

[lean hatch]

But yeah that was the peak of thos server

The heian era

[subtle bison]

how do we become peak again

[lean hatch]

We cant

Were in the post public interest stagnant era

[weak ermine]

who the fuck is mr x

[lean hatch]

You'd just have to have been there at the time

[lean hatch]

All thats left is the passionate modders and the people who dont know how to install xoxors mods correctly

[weak ermine]

sob

[lean hatch]

[weak ermine]

nah im mr x

im working on mafia

boo

[lean hatch]

Not working on mafia

He said he worked for the mafia

[weak ermine]

that's why im tried to say

but language barrier

brain barrier

neuron barrier

[lean hatch]

A

[subtle bison]

ty @loud mural🙏
i love good bug reports

github decided to die today

[loud mural]

decals/decalstain011a
overlays/stain_oil_01

[loud mural]

Huh? What exactly haven't you seen? The topbr envmap conversion?

[loud mural]

np, I would have loved to have posted more if YouTube didn't ask me to verify my identity via ID on a ten+ year old account that I use frequently

[keen rivet]

wtf is this lore I missed

[subtle bison]

the visible reflected environment, its so pixelated on my gpu lol

[subtle bison]

the enshitification continues 😟

[winter radish]

Sounds like an AMD issue

[half viper]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3670141261

Can someone test this?

[loud mural]

It's so weird, I've been on this map a bunch of times now and only this load did it turn the fences into glass lol

[loud mural]

Sure

Honestly looking at the citizens as well it doesn't seem like there's much of a difference. That addon probably takes more advantage of Source's rendering

[half viper]

Its mainly for the normal maps

[loud mural]

Oh no

Every time I load into this map the glass infects more things lmao

halp

[keen rivet]

WTF

yeah ive never had the incorrect glass issue

autopbr i assume

[loud mural]

Yeah

[keen rivet]

ive seen others talk about it though

[loud mural]

idk maybe I'm blind but I still don't see a difference in the normal maps

[compact blaze]

idk i think gman looks pretty swanky

[loud mural]

The left screenshots are with it off and the right screenshots are with it on btw

[subtle bison]

you might have to regenerate the replacements, i dont think it does it on its own

[loud mural]

In the console it says it regenerated them

[subtle bison]

it always says that but it never replaces the files

[loud mural]

Ohhhh

[subtle bison]

i tested this addon myself a week ago and i could tell the faces were more reflective

[loud mural]

My bad then

[subtle bison]

at least in a pleasing sense

[subtle bison]

naw that's on us lol

[compact blaze]

sweaty face

lick

[subtle bison]

me when human skin oil

😱

[loud mural]

RTX oil

Oh btw CR I can attatch the debugger now to gmod RTX, sorry I ghosted on that before I had some personal stuff come up

But I still have no idea what I'm doing so help would be appreciated whenever you feel like it

[subtle bison]

no worries

sure, what are you stuck on?

[loud mural]

I'm basically where we left off last time

But let me execute that real quick

I forgot you actually showed me how lol

[loud mural]

So I load in on dm_crossfire and now that's fixed????

Also I can't get the game to hang with the debugger attached ofc

[loud mural]

The broken glass is all purple now though

[modern quest]

normal maps ✨

[loud mural]

Yeah it's just weird because topbr was capturing them and properly applying a glass material to the previously

[weak ermine]

can someone test this babies
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3643930410
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3675270719

[loud mural]

Sure

I can't test the enhanced materials atm because I'm testing some topbr stuff atm

But I can test the map

[weak ermine]

no problem

[loud mural]

It hangs at "Initializing world..." for me

[weak ermine]

no no no

[subtle bison]

that's how it usually goes lol, i would just leave it attached until it eventually dies

[weak ermine]

second map with this shit?

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-gif-3746287728568117387

[subtle bison]

man this would look so good if the materials worked correctly

[loud mural]

It looks great when they do

It seems the more I load up my game with topbr mats the more fucked things get

I re-install my game and the mats act way more sane

[subtle bison]

like with more stuff becoming glass?

genuinely flabbergasted from that lol

[loud mural]

Yeah or things that should be reflective or glass becoming matt

Or just showing a normal map like that Black Mesa glass screenshot

[subtle bison]

btw i replied to most of your GitHub issues but they might not show up because they had some kind of outage

[loud mural]

Alright, good to know. I'm making an issue for what we just discussed as we speak

Okay the game finally hanged

[subtle bison]

gmrtx 0.10.0 about to be the most polished and feature packed release yet

[loud mural]

Thank god

Okay so what do I do now?

[subtle bison]

send a screenshot of what VS looks like

should show some kind of exception window

[subtle bison]

guh

[loud mural]

Game is still hanging

[subtle bison]

yeah VS usually pauses execution when that happens and shows a stack trace

so i guess in your case its still technically responding

one sec

hit the pause button here

[loud mural]

Alrighty

[subtle bison]

i think you might have hooked the chromium process

[loud mural]

There was only one gmod process

[subtle bison]

hmm usually there is more than 3 for x64

[loud mural]

Yeah I noticed that in your video

For me there was only one for some reason

I am running on x64 ofc

[subtle bison]

it might be a vs2026 quirk? ill be home in like an hour and i can see why its only showing 1

my best guess its consolidating all of them into 1 behind the window title?

[modern quest]

vs2008 ftw

[loud mural]

vs2013 ftw, that's what """"modern"""" Source is compiled under lol

[subtle bison]

gmod rtx is a vs2022 house 🤓

for remix and the module

but fr 2026 shouldn't be that different

[loud mural]

Was there any particular reason you chose 2022?

[subtle bison]

it was the newest at the time

[loud mural]

Ahh

[subtle bison]

no reason for us to not switch to 2026 i think

[loud mural]

Yeah in task manager I got five of them lol

idk why vs didn't see them

[subtle bison]

what does the visual studio window picker look like

[loud mural]

Why are there three now?!?!?

I swear to glob there was only just one before

[subtle bison]

can you show all of the results?

[subtle bison]

weird, i still dont see the proper one

[loud mural]

0% nice

[subtle bison]

try searching gmod in the search, title needs to be Garry's Mod (x64)

[loud mural]

Alright

[subtle bison]

what the hell

evil visual studio

unless rubat changed the window title, i still dont see it 😭

[loud mural]

The window title is the same

[subtle bison]

huh????

[subtle bison]

naw the title is different, your VS results only show the chrome Garry's Mod ones

[loud mural]

Ohhhhh

Okay

[subtle bison]

ill need to double check my video to make sure im not going insane

[loud mural]

Yeah I just checked

You have three processes and one of them is Garry's Mod (x64)

[subtle bison]

oml discord mobile lag

[loud mural]

lool

[subtle bison]

i see you already found it

[loud mural]

Ye

Oopsie...

Uhh

I didn't have this checked

Hello Garry's Mod (x64) my beloved

Sorry about that lmao

Well I already got something

This isn't the hang but it booted me out of the game window and showed me this

[subtle bison]

you should be able to resume

[loud mural]

Alright

I keep clicking continue (the little green play button on the top right) but it just throws the same window up instantly

[subtle bison]

ah then yeah it's crashing at that point

oh wait did you check this

[loud mural]

No because I assume just in case later on if the same file throws another exception I won't be able to see it, but idk anything about these things so am I supposed to check that?

Oh wait I thought you were asking about the bottom checkmark

No I didn't check the top one

That was automatically checked

[subtle bison]

i meant the bottom one, we can undo it later since we're trying to figure out why remix is locking up (at least from what I remember)

[loud mural]

Alright I got it to hang again

And I'm hooked onto the right process I think

[subtle bison]

what shows in the stack trace if you pause it

[loud mural]

I paused it but I don't see the stack trace

I see Call Stack

[subtle bison]

ah yeah send a pic of that

[loud mural]

I tried double clicking it and nothing happened

It just showed up here on the side

[subtle bison]

What does Thread: show here

something aint right

[loud mural]

nvoglv64.dll

[subtle bison]

guh the nvidia driver

well that would be right technically lol, but i wonder why nothing is showing in the callstack

it should've at least referenced d3d9.dll

does it let you select what module (dll) in the thread dropdown?

[subtle bison]

ah yeah perfect

[loud mural]

Yeah I was just going to say I see d3d9.dll in here

[subtle bison]

try selecting it and see if the callstack updates

[loud mural]

It did but it's just this

[subtle bison]

i should've asked this, when you ignored the shaderapidx9 exceptions, did the game start responding again or did it stay frozen

i swear most of them are non-fatal but i might have made you skip fatal ones

[loud mural]

I ended up not doing it because I had to shut off the game

So I just exited the debugger

And then I just reatached it later on

[subtle bison]

ah

so it looks like from most of your github issues, black mesa's dm_crossfire is a great map to test bug fixes

[loud mural]

iirc I thought most of my stuff was on dm_undertow

Also what should I do with VS?

[subtle bison]

still hangs without VS catching anything?

[loud mural]

I'll try restarting and hanging it again

[loud mural]

Okay so I hit that exception thrown message

Should I uncheck that

Or not because it may skip a fatal one at some point

[subtle bison]

so if you hit continue, it breaks there again immediately after?

[loud mural]

Oh wait I got something in the Call Stack

[loud mural]

Yes

[loud mural]

In the exact same place in memory

[subtle bison]

if you unhook VS does it immediately crash? if so, we're running into a new engine issue

[loud mural]

Do I Detach or Stop Debugging?

[subtle bison]

detach

[loud mural]

No it doesn't crash

[subtle bison]

game runs like normal?

[loud mural]

Yes

[subtle bison]

ok yeah strange

[loud mural]

I didn't hit the normal hang scenario though

This happened while I was trying to get it to hang

This just happened during perfectly normal gameplay

Although I did noclip outside the map and back in

I think it happened as soon as I re entered the map

Probably something to do with visleaf my beloved is my guess

[subtle bison]

this time around when you hit the shaderapidx9 exception, unchecck the top one

[loud mural]

Alright

[subtle bison]

ill need to fix that shaderapidx9 issue if i can but i dont think its related to the hangs

[loud mural]

Okay it resumed to normal gameplay

[subtle bison]

sweet

[loud mural]

I'm just going to try to cause the hang now

[subtle bison]

btw

the launcher doesnt copy the .pdb for the remix build

so when it does hang in remix, VS wont be able to locate the debug info

im working on fixing that rn

[loud mural]

Alright

So is it useless if I capture the hang now?

[subtle bison]

nah i can just send the .pdb

[loud mural]

If I don't have the .pdb

Alright

Then I'll get back to causing it

thx for letting me know though

[subtle bison]

lol its on me that i forgot to include those in the github runner builds 😭

[loud mural]

It's so nice to see the door handles actually render behind the glass now

Way less alpha sorting issues

[subtle bison]

throw this next to your d3d9.dll in garrysmod/bin/win64

[loud mural]

Alright

Do I need to detach the debugger?

[subtle bison]

nah

[loud mural]

Ight

[subtle bison]

it doesnt load it until a breakpoint is hit anyway so it should see it once that happens

[loud mural]

Huh

Water texture my beloved

[subtle bison]

guh

[loud mural]

I wish mat_crosshair worked for decals

[subtle bison]

mat_crosshair ?

[loud mural]

That tells you what material is under your crosshair

[subtle bison]

ah

[loud mural]

Yeah for whatever reason the only time my physgun glow isn't glass is only on Black Mesa maps lol

[subtle bison]

my question is why does it only happen on specific maps lmao

[loud mural]

I guess the hash changes??

idk

[subtle bison]

it works fine globally for me but still weird af

perhaps

the hash does change every game launch/map load

wow dm_crossfire with topbr on made my driver crash so hard it kicked me out of my desktop session

starting to see a trend

[loud mural]

Yeah crossfire is really heavy

[subtle bison]

something about remix reloading materials really stresses out the driver

like its happening to me on windows and linux, which have drastically different GPU drivers

[loud mural]

Is that with topbr enabled?

[subtle bison]

yeah only happens with topbr enabled

if i load into it off its fine

[loud mural]

How much VRAM do you have?

[subtle bison]

16gb, im nowhere near running out though

the crashes are happening while topbr is processing materials

like enhnacements are still on, there just isnt anything going on when loading into the map

[subtle bison]

maybe remix is hitting some kind of race condition

i need a way to stagger reloads or at least smooth them out so the driver doesnt get overwhelmed

at least crossfire reliably crashes it lol, good for debugging

good lawd black mesa maps are so pretty with topbr

[loud mural]

Turn on light fog on dm_stack, it looks so nice

[subtle bison]

rtx error

[loud mural]

I wish the plusing effects would work in Remix

[subtle bison]

probably can?

[loud mural]

I'd love to see that

I mean I saw pulsing on breens monitor

So I'm sure it's possible

[subtle bison]

ihh

uhhh

uhhh

topbr cooked

[loud mural]

Yes

Exactly what they used to look like for me

Before they just turned into a normal map all of a sudden aka the picture on the right

Huge sad

But yeah it's beautiful

[subtle bison]

topbr is bipolar 🫃

[loud mural]

It loves to categorize these BM decals as water for some reason lol

[subtle bison]

guh

[loud mural]

I am literally still trying to hang the game lol

Now that I want it to hang it just refuses to

[subtle bison]

could try deleting all of your topbr mod files and starting over

i think the hangs are caused by what i described above tho

since they happen to me as well i think i can get it fixed, but lmk if you get hangs even with topbr off

[loud mural]

Yeah maybe, it's just topbr already processed the materials on the maps I was on

Or are you saying it was caused loading the converted materials?

[subtle bison]

not the mateirals themselves, even though they arent being reprocessed, topbr is most likely rewriting all of the usda entries causing remix to reload the mod every second

[loud mural]

Ohhhhh

[subtle bison]

im working on some kind of file lock/debounce so it only happens once

[loud mural]

Yeah that's likely what it is

Because I don't play the game without topbr at this point since it looks so nice even with all the glass weirdness

Do the doors on dm_crossfire look like this for you without topbr mats enabled?

[subtle bison]

ill check

[loud mural]

So oddly enough topbr turned itself off

That's why my glass looks like that

It was never converted

[subtle bison]

lua cvars reset if the game crashes if they werent saved from a previous clean exit

[loud mural]

Ohhhhhh

[subtle bison]

so enable topbr and then exit the game, should be persistent after that

[loud mural]

Gotcha

lmfao

So uh

[subtle bison]

its not wrong

[loud mural]

🤦‍♂️

No wonder why the Black Mesa water treatment decal is marked as water

[loud mural]

Yeah that's normally what it used to look like for me

Now it's just like the light of god is coming from the door for some reason

and as you can see it didn't catch a detail texture on the door for some reason

[subtle bison]

i think black mesa is a special snowflake

not that i mind lol

[loud mural]

Well yeah they are pushing limits

[subtle bison]

good for us topbr enjoyers

[loud mural]

envmap my beloved

[subtle bison]

ssbump my beloved

[loud mural]

Does that work now propperly

[subtle bison]

yep

tf2 stuff looks awesome

[loud mural]

Niiice

There has to be a better way to tag water textures then just to look for the word water lmao

Don't they use a special shader?

[subtle bison]

ngl a lot of the topbr stuff was done with the online copilot thing xenthio tried out

[loud mural]

Ohhhhh

Okay that makes sense now

[subtle bison]

to be fair its really good for what it is

but yes the keyword thing is a little silly

[loud mural]

Oh yeah absolutely but you can tell it's a bit jank lol

[subtle bison]

yeah, but most water falls back to lightmappedgeneric if they opt for it

[loud mural]

o

God I forgot how much lightmappedgeneric handles in Source

[subtle bison]

[loud mural]

models/props_industrial/light_strip03_on
Needs invert alpha mask on

[loud mural]

Turn on light fogTurn on light fogTurn on light fogTurn on light fogTurn on light fog

:P

Do it with raster sky as well because the sun angle happens to be really nice

[subtle bison]

rip my gpu

[subtle bison]

but muh atmos sky

[loud mural]

Just for a moment

[loud mural]

Maybe there is a way invert alpha mask can be detected because the engine knows some how

[subtle bison]

good idea

[loud mural]

Me when fog is fogging

[subtle bison]

we love fog

[willow fog]

Holy fuck I creamed

[subtle bison]

ok so i have loaded 2 maps with the debounce changes, no driver crashes so far

gonna push it

[loud mural]

Looks like backface culling is brokie again

[subtle bison]

oh no please no

[loud mural]

Yeah I used freecam

It's deffinitly broken

[subtle bison]

well at least perf mode is pretty much on par with engine rendering

[loud mural]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

gonna make a clean install and see if it happens for me

[loud mural]

Uh static props?

Where they go?

[subtle bison]

turn off pvs culling

niknaks doesnt get pvs data correctly for hl2 campaign maps

ep1 works fine oddly enough

and i think ep2