Garry's Mod

[polar anchor]

I havent went out of my way to block it, what could it be bruh

Well even though it failed, the launcher says I have this version (which it shouldnt be since it failed lol)

[winter radish]

You know all our problems could be fixed with one little app

https://tenor.com/view/steam-valve-logo-video-games-digital-distribution-gif-18279073

[weak ermine]

and

[polar anchor]

our shrine to Lord Gaben

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-loves-you-te-ama-gif-10025501

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison IGNORE

[steel lark]

DIDN'T IGNORE

[subtle bison]

huh

[keen rivet]

Just trying something

[subtle bison]

lmao

[willow fog]

He's taking over

Rtx guy vs Gmod guy

[steel lark]

@subtle bison is rtx logic gonna be useful? (in gmod rtx i mean)

[subtle bison]

yeah, though i cant really mess with it cuz you know, amd 🤓

[steel lark]

is it only nvdia??

[subtle bison]

all of the logic editing is in the toolkit

[steel lark]

zamn

[subtle bison]

its from this lol
https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/pull/12#issuecomment-3733625194

[steel lark]

just edit the usda manually

[subtle bison]

bruh thats hell

[steel lark]

💀

[keen rivet]

I made a ui framework that's like blazor for desktop and I want to try it on the launcher

Lemme know what you think of just by looking at that code

[weak ermine]

ignore what

[keen rivet]

Cuz I'll be honest avalonia kinda sucks

To write things in

[subtle bison]

rtxlauncher 3, coming in 2099

[keen rivet]

True

I might not merge it ever

[weak ermine]

rtxlauncher 2 episode 1

[keen rivet]

It's just to try my thing out on a real program

[subtle bison]

ofc eyes show up in the blender toolkit

this leads me to think our eye issue is that studiorender (or whatever system that animates them) just doesnt work at a DX6 FL

because the material is obviously picked up by remix

@past notch is there anyone who could shine light on this? I believe we've asked before but it would be nice to know what engine modifications were made to get these working. I know it doesnt work at all in the SDK 2013 base (what hl2rtx is based on)

[past notch]

it doesn't fully work in HL2RTX (yet, very close), but I can't be specific since I wasn't the engineer sorting it (and the engineer who did may not be able to be specific due to engine licensing)

as a general guide though it had something to do with the different methods different DX versions use for rendering eyes

I recall that older DX versions treat the iris as a decal on the eyes whereas newer DX versions are actually using texture transforms or something like that

and we found this was broken due to having to run on an older DX version

the edits were being made along those lines, to basically fix the rendering in that context and pick one or the other to be our method

[subtle bison]

gotcha, i'll see what i can dig into

[keen rivet]

didn't KingDavidW have that working in might and magic rtx or something? or am i misremembering

[subtle bison]

old source already had it working

[keen rivet]

ah

[subtle bison]

i tested gmod 10 a few months ago and eyes were working ootb

[keen rivet]

how annoying

well i guess that does mean its fixable somewhere

[subtle bison]

i know what david is talking about, source has a older eye shader called Eyes but its completely removed in modern source

i backported EyeRefract from dx9 but the issue is that eyes dont animate at all

and i havent figured what actually controls that but it's worth looking back into

[keen rivet]

if we register the shader via binary module and use the fxc and stuff from old source, would that work?

[subtle bison]

issue is that we dont want to use leaked code 🙁

[keen rivet]

we dont have to

shaders should just be in old sdks

[subtle bison]

ah

i dont think it's a shader issue at this point though, the material as-is for x64 renders, but it doesnt have any transforms

something has to actually move the texture otherwise it just doesnt show up

[keen rivet]

https://github.com/yupi2/source-sdk-2007/blob/master/materialsystem/stdshaders/sdk_eyes.psh

[subtle bison]

oh shoot

i've been looking for this

https://github.com/yupi2/source-sdk-2007/blob/master/materialsystem/stdshaders/eyes.cpp

[keen rivet]

the c++ might be there too

yeah

[subtle bison]

this is what we need

[keen rivet]

yeah

had a feeling

lol

[subtle bison]

we can probably retrofit it for https://github.com/RaphaelIT7/obsolete-source-engine so we can compile a compatible stdshader.dx6 for gmod x64

i used it for the spritecard shader backport

[keen rivet]

you can just make shaders without needing that?

[subtle bison]

i meant compiling a compatible dll for the engine

[keen rivet]

oh

ohhhhhhhhhhh right because we used to use the portal rtx ones

but cant anymore

well you can still register shaders through a binary module just fine

[subtle bison]

you can for x32 still but the issue remains, eyes are entirely static

[keen rivet]

hm

[subtle bison]

gmod rtx from hell

[keen rivet]

doesn't this look 100x nicer to maintain? lol

[subtle bison]

can we make it look as good as the default avalonia skin?

🤤

[keen rivet]

yeah

this is just windows 11 theme right now

[lean hatch]

Hm

Cr im curious are you doing a remix api version of gmod?

[keen rivet]

these are the themes I have right now

[subtle bison]

you mean like replace the rendering with the remix api methods?

[lean hatch]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

i did some work on it but its a major pain with source
#1116089843479498782 message

same crash issues as API lights when the engine does its per-frame calls, so the runtime would have to be modified to present meshes each frame

[lean hatch]

Ah, I see

I was gonna have a question on it but im guessing its more pain then gain

[subtle bison]

i do want to work on it again, it would be far faster than the perf fork since i can actually turn off engine rendering for static meshes

[lean hatch]

Ah

Ig then my question would be do stuff that break due to rendering systems (such as gwater/betarun) function with the remix api?

Or would it still be a crash situation

[subtle bison]

gwater2 has a good chance of working if it were to use the remix api directly

its open source too but i havent looked into how it actually renders the water with normal source

[lean hatch]

I see

And beta run is different?

[subtle bison]

beatrun?

[lean hatch]

Sorry speech to text

The one parkour mod

[subtle bison]

it does some weird stuff with viewmodels but i havent looked into fixing that either, but should be easier in theory compared to gwater2

[keen rivet]

a bunch of triangles, theyre one huge mesh, everything else is a shader and isnt real geometry

each particle is a triangle

[subtle bison]

but how doesit integrate into source's rendering?

is it actually rendered in-engine?

[keen rivet]

just by adding a shader

[subtle bison]

ah

[keen rivet]

in engine

triangles are built in engine, then rendered as a model

using MeshBuilder

[lean hatch]

Gulp... the s word

[half viper]

CR can you get textures patterns to stop repeating too?
Pretty sure they are resources everywhere about this
And even LLMs should be able to do it

[subtle bison]

context?

i get this is text so its hard to infer emotion, but it sounds like you're frustrated lol

[subtle bison]

im going assume you mean the detail masks gm_flatgrass/construct use to make the terrain less tiled

we completely disable detail textures due to the previous rendering issues it would cause in remix. Since we have auto-categorization, we could probably stop doing that, but it would probably be more preferrable to just let the user handle this on the remix-side

i dont see how it's worth doing in the engine

yeah uhhh, nevermind

[keen rivet]

not quite the same yet

[subtle bison]

🥀

unless we start doing PBR replacements for all of these, i dont think we should bring detail textures back

thoughts?

[keen rivet]

what blending modes exist in remix, one of those might be correct for detail textures

but yeah we dont want detail textures on replaced things

[subtle bison]

🤢

[subtle bison]

i forgor, i know the official toolkit lists them

[keen rivet]

its snowing!

[subtle bison]

dandruf simulator

[subtle bison]

i expect this to fully replace avalonia tomorrow /s

[keen rivet]

idk depends if it works

avalonia is tried and tested, my UI framework isn't

[subtle bison]

what about linux support

[keen rivet]

i did make sure macOS worked

which should mean linux

i dont have a linux install

or i do but i broke it

(grub rescue moment)

[subtle bison]

the detail textures definitely give off a horror vibe

[keen rivet]

you can compile it yourself if you want

clone fazor repo into a folder named UITest next to your clone of RTXLauncher

[polar anchor]

Looks kinda cool. Also wanted to let you know that the latest version of your gmod Remix DOESNT work with World At War. I jumped from 501666b-gmod to the December one. I havent tried any other in between so I dont know if they would work or not. Just thought youd find that nugget of info interesting.

So as far as I am aware right now, stick to 501666b-gmod for waw

[errant knoll]

How to fix white eyes?

[weak ermine]

can't be fixed right now

[half viper]

Replaced textures are also tiled

I think the changes should be done in remix too?

[subtle bison]

No

not even hl2rtx addresses this.
but you could probably avoid it by placing a bunch of decal meshes using instancing and some kind of paint tool on the remix side

I'm not exactly certain on the method dx9c gmod uses to avoid tiling but it's probably a shader?

[half viper]

Wouldn't it be better to do it rtx remix side?

[subtle bison]

But how would that even be done? afaik there isnt any clever way to tell remix what texture to untile, it would have to be a manual process

not to mention this would require new runtime and remix api features

[keen rivet]

there's a method?

i thought it was just detail textures

[subtle bison]

i think there's more, the detail textures aren't meant to look like this (repeating tile)
#1116089843479498782 message

[keen rivet]

oh yeah detail textures for some reason are extra small i think in fixed function mode

[subtle bison]

they're supposed to be randomized too iirc

[woeful phoenix]

Reminder that you guys can and should ship material replacements with shader changes (or intercept and change shaders directly)

Gmod support custom shaders too, dunno of you guys have experimented but it's an avenue to fix stuff

[keen rivet]

yeah i just discussed that yesterday for eye fixes lol

[livid rapids]

reminder we have screenspace_general_8tex now

[lean hatch]

[keen rivet]

not useful in rtx remix

[lean hatch]

Hello everyone

[subtle bison]

nothing to the extent of what you've done with dark messiah. We've done experimentation with the eye stuff but I'm still pretty bad at RE so I'm not sure when we'll get anything usable

[subtle bison]

hi

[weak ermine]

dumbest thing i ever heard

how it gonna help remix

that shit not gonna remixing my gmod and tracing ma rays

[lean hatch]

Omg!!!!!1!1@ is that a interloper referring

[weak ermine]

is that true

or photoshop

[keen rivet]

Ai generated image

[weak ermine]

phew

can u generate rr for amd users

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[polar anchor]

yeah i just keep getting 404 not found errors when at the fetching patch definitions stage

[subtle bison]

which are you downgrading, perf or main (both work but i need to verify something)

[polar anchor]

perf

it might have worked? just not auto patching it afterwords

maybe

so it goes to the October build?

[subtle bison]

no, ignore that

version tells you what you're running

so does the launcher

https://github.com/sambow23/SourceRTXTweaks/tree/perf
@polar anchor
can you reach this URL

[polar anchor]

yeah

[subtle bison]

weird, if the patches arent working idk what's giving the launcher the 404, i cant reproduce this on my end

[polar anchor]

i can run them seperately, it just wont do it automatically

[subtle bison]

hmmm

[polar anchor]

wonder if the update install button will still tell me that Im still on the latest version

wont test that yet since i actually want to play gmod rn lol

[subtle bison]

fixed moddb downloads

@keen rivet

oldest and newest stuff work now

gonna update the UI a bit more while im at it

[subtle bison]

ahhhhh im cooking so hard

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet bad news, we have to get rid of trimming so PuppeteerSharp.Stealth works correctly (workaround for cloudflare)

[keen rivet]

Surely you can make a trimming exception right?

[subtle bison]

i did

first thing i did

😭

[keen rivet]

I refuse to believe it needs to be removed outright lol

[subtle bison]

ok ill keep poking at it

[keen rivet]

Why is it a problem? Does it need reflection?

What is it using reflection for?

[subtle bison]

the embedded chrome browser fails to start if it's on, best i can explain it

[keen rivet]

Sounds like trimming exceptions need to be made

You just gotta figure out what

Are there trimming warnings in build output?

[subtle bison]

yeah lmao

ok i think i set up trim exclusions correctly this time, fingers crossed

[subtle bison]

yay

it was a little more than disabling trimming

there was a embdded json file not getting serialized correctly

[polar anchor]

Doesn't even look or feel like gmod!

[keen rivet]

We are so back

[polar anchor]

Annnnd we are back to gmod xD

[subtle bison]

if anyone wants to try the moddb stuff

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/actions/runs/20933483058

😎

[polar anchor]

Nice

I really can't wait till HL2 RTX comes out, it'll be the new Counter Strike Source texture pack for GMod xD

[subtle bison]

what is the map in the last pic?

[polar anchor]

Oh um rp solane i think

[polar anchor]

It is all from the same map

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3373875462

[subtle bison]

man i wish we actually had a all hand-made PBR mod for a gmod map, trying all of the ones currently on moddb look like shit because they're all made with AI

😭

[subtle bison]

maybe i should make one myself

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[sonic widget]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[willow fog]

I've never downloaded a single remix mod for Gmod from moddb.

Almost all of it is ai slop dogshit mass generated by either popo or skurty

[weak ermine]

yeh do it

after sky

clouds

stars

weather

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[polar anchor]

The mw22 pack isnt

[subtle bison]

yeah the cod warzone weps are peak thanks to @livid rapids

[cerulean moat]

перекур

[onyx ridge]

i should try messing with making my base gmod thing again

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison how much do u think gmod rtx improved since then?

[subtle bison]

a lot, at least in terms of feature support and polish

i think the avalonia launcher was probably the most significant change since it makes setting it up mostly plainless?

[keen rivet]

i think i got most of the static non animated props working

[subtle bison]

yeah you got i think all of them

this must have been before the patches

[brittle token]

was there a way to change skybox (or hdri), fog, etc?

[compact blaze]

Thank you for everything u did with gmod rtx

[compact blaze]

And thank you for starting what you did with rtx remix working in gmod, a dream come true really

[subtle bison]

there are some addons on the workshop that let you change it. to change an HDRI, there is a tutorial on the repo for importing your own

[dusk wagon]

btw how do you download it?

[subtle bison]

if you're signed into github, you can download it here

i will make a formal release soon, need to iron out some linux issues

[winter radish]

I miss Rust launcher

[subtle bison]

i miss it too but i dont think its reasonable to maintain two launchers

avalonia is very much ahead of the rust one in feature support

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet finally got around to testing linux, mods work there too now

[subtle bison]

native depotdownloader integration 😊

all because i didnt want the launcher trying to open all common linux terminals the user might not have installed

has RR always been this bad with water on nvidia

[weak ermine]

lmao

not that ultra intensive

but yes

and we reported that

trillions years ago

[subtle bison]

so i assume its still not fixed? im pretty sure im running the newest nv driver on linux

[weak ermine]

yes

rr is FUCKED in question of reflections

[subtle bison]

yay another AMD win 🤓 /s

[weak ermine]

shadows

[subtle bison]

i guess but if you have the denoiser tuned correctly its not too far off

HDRI shadows are pretty bad still though

[weak ermine]

i hope they fix that shit😭🙏

maybe someone create gub report

bug report

request

idk

im not a gitshit nerd

git0,5mbit/s

[brittle token]

Ray Redestruction

[weak ermine]

eyes degeneration

[brittle token]

what

[subtle bison]

no freaking way, real life

[weak ermine]

wtf is real life

is that game where's GRASS grows in real time?

nah that game does not exist

psyop

[winter radish]

Finally, DLSS got added to my eyes
I can see again

[brittle token]

i think it's a dev branch of half life where valve integrates experimental stuff, like procedural growing grass and trees, seasons, etc. my uncle at valve told me

[brittle token]

woke up seeing as shit, so i got on my knees, put my hands together, and started submitting my bug report to the dev

[subtle bison]

🙂

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-what-im-about-to-angry-said-it-serious-gif-12034998

[subtle bison]

you are witnessing gmod rtx getting its polish hush

🤌

[subtle bison]

what the dialog box looks like for steam creds

I have yet to try the QR stuff

ok i think im done with it, looks good

[subtle bison]

i know most probably wont care, but x32 has been broken for months because of dumb stuff i did with the avalonia launcher, but its fixed now 🧓. Also looks like i broke stuff on the main mod

but it seems to be perfectly stable on the latest gmod version surprisingly

eyes

used hl2rtx stdshader_dx6, completely static still

[winter radish]

Ah yes, let me enter my Steam account login stuff into this third party app

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-valve-logo-video-games-digital-distribution-gif-18279073

Could be more polished

https://tenor.com/view/movies-willywonka-charlieandthechocolatefactory-classicmovies-moviegif-gif-3483573

[subtle bison]

tell me what i should polish

[subtle bison]

i get its a joke but fr there is no other way, steam wont download gmod depots for some reason. we are using depotdownloader which is fully open source so i can promise it wont hack your steam account, but i also get not trusting a 3rd party app for steam creds

hence why downgrading is optional 🙂

[keen rivet]

Are we not able to get binaries for free with no account from the gmod server builds?

[subtle bison]

i think we talked about it before, we need to verify if it actually has the dlls we need

i guess ill check right now while its on my mind

[keen rivet]

People will not be comfortable with entering their steam account password to install a gmod thing for sure

[subtle bison]

yeah for sure

guh

man can i just not download any gmod depots with official steam tools

[keen rivet]

Should be able to

[subtle bison]

time to try depot downloader

[keen rivet]

That's how all dedicated servers update

[winter radish]

I meant more polished with Steam
Like not having to worry about a Gmod update break Gmod RTX

[keen rivet]

It doesn't break existing installs technically and never did

[subtle bison]

looks like it has mostly everything except client.dll

[keen rivet]

oh that would make sense lol

wonder if thats enough for most cases

[subtle bison]

no we need client.dll patches for culling

unless we can mix and match these binaries

most x64 crashes are in engine.dll these days iirc

[keen rivet]

if they have the same symbols then yeah should be able to

[subtle bison]

even if it works, the other issue i can see is that the symbols could change at any point

i'd prefer to avoid that

man if only gmod was free

also there is no x64 server as far as i can tell

just x32

[keen rivet]

hope you're storing those creds properly

[subtle bison]

its using whatever depotdownloader does

[keen rivet]

ah

[subtle bison]

i just integrated it into the launcher so i dont have to deal with terminal BS on linux

[keen rivet]

ideally we wouldn't need to downgrade at all and just try to keep up with the latest versions

[subtle bison]

i tried to fix the patches a month or two ago, i didnt get anywhere

[keen rivet]

which ones changed?

[subtle bison]

none of the signatures, i meant fix as in find where they crash

[keen rivet]

oh so all the sigs are still correct?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[keen rivet]

ok good

[subtle bison]

and the patches do work, the game is just really unstable

[keen rivet]

youd want to fix that anyway since addons and map compatiblity moves alot

like new compiled maps might not work on older versions of the game because of changes

[subtle bison]

😭

even with LLMs, i dont think i have the technical understanding to figure out what exactly regressed using ghidra, etc

would be nice if we had another team member who specialized in RE

[keen rivet]

do you have any crash dumps?

[subtle bison]

not currently but i bet i could make some real quick

[keen rivet]

send me them if so

[lean hatch]

[winter radish]

Guh

[subtle bison]

bro has a contact

[keen rivet]

no im just gonna try look at them lol

[winter radish]

My Steam propaganda has failed guys

[keen rivet]

see if i can spot anything

[keen rivet]

gmod rtx will never get on steam lol

that just wont work

[subtle bison]

hell would freeze over before gmod rtx got on steam

[keen rivet]

that doesnt work, still sounds too likely, it would be more like hell would freeze over and gmod rtx would still not be on steam.

[austere ridge]

i just got it working but every time i open a map it crashes lol

[subtle bison]

if you have .dmp files in your game dir pls send them to xenthio lmao

[keen rivet]

its possible just one of the sigs is wrong and going to a near identical function

[austere ridge]

is this of significance?
-Lua Stack Traces-

Client
0. DrawModel - [C]:-1
1. (null) - addons/remixbinary/lua/remixlua/cl/cl_rtx_misc.lua:116

Server
Not in Lua call OR Lua has panicked

MenuSystem
Not in Lua call OR Lua has panicked

[keen rivet]

a lot

that means its happening as a direct cause of something in lua

[austere ridge]

oh damn

[subtle bison]

uhh

[austere ridge]

so what can I do to fix it?

[subtle bison]

this looks like the old vertex lighting fix

[keen rivet]

try remove the drawflag override

we shouldt need it yeah

[winter radish]

[subtle bison]

iswtg

if this fixes it

im gonna freak out lmao

[austere ridge]

alr i will do that too

[keen rivet]

bro why the codebase so different LOL

[subtle bison]

because it got messy really quickly with the remix api stuff

[keen rivet]

i see

[subtle bison]

[keen rivet]

i guess thats what happens when you disappear for 5 months

[keen rivet]

it also means you could put a print before the draw to see what model is being drawn to crash it

[subtle bison]

i mean if we dont need it im just gonna nuke it from orbit but yeah i can try

[keen rivet]

well that function exists for material overrides too

for material tool

[subtle bison]

ah fuck right

[keen rivet]

what map

[austere ridge]

its some map called "gm_aero_city"

[subtle bison]

ooh i have that

ill try it rq

[austere ridge]

its a nice chill map to be fair

[subtle bison]

i cant even get the map to load, gets stuck here

[austere ridge]

ooh

[keen rivet]

add the prints and check console if theres a funny model there

oh wait nvm youre very early load

[subtle bison]

all maps seem to be doing this all of the sudden guh

[keen rivet]

is it loaded? can you see your mouse and hear sounds?

[subtle bison]

nah its totally locked up, works if i have workshop disabled on launch

anyways

[keen rivet]

addon funny

[subtle bison]

this is what happens if you remove the studio flag

[austere ridge]

i managed to load into a different map that had a big text saying "use this for rtx" but it crashed within a few seconds

[subtle bison]

yeah gm_construct_rtx

no more crashes but bye bye models

[keen rivet]

interesting ok i think you need the render flags

i had a feeling about something

but you should load that map and look at what crashes

is that an old version, btw?

[subtle bison]

no, newest

[keen rivet]

ok

[subtle bison]

what prints would I be adding? last processed mesh?

[keen rivet]

i dont think this is the games fault if it still works, its probably some crash happening in the rtx fixes

[keen rivet]

just before drawmodel about what model it is, if its crashing there

[subtle bison]

ofc it stops crashing when i add the debug prints, ill try workshop stuff again

[austere ridge]

regular gm_construct booted perfectly fine but the sky looks weird

[keen rivet]

need gm_construct_rtx version

in default construct, the skybox is above the map which means it casts a shadow on everything

[austere ridge]

ah ok i understand it now

[subtle bison]

while we figure this out, you can install the perf fork in the launcher which doesnt have any stability issues

[austere ridge]

alr

cool

[subtle bison]

looks like a skbox prop in a tf2 map, crashing in shaderapidx9

[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/weapons/c_models/c_rocketboots_soldier.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/player/gibs/gibs_duck.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/props_doomsday/australium_container.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: viewmodel, Model: models/weapons/c_superphyscannon.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: viewmodel, Model: models/weapons/c_superphyscannon.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: gmod_hands, Model: models/weapons/c_arms_citizen.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/skybox_mountain/skybox_mountain_256_d.mdl

[keen rivet]

what if you spawn it in constract

you could try playing around to see if any of those overrides in those functions causes it by specifically exclduing stuff from running if the modelpath is that

like skip the material stuff if its that model, etc.

[subtle bison]

right but that means we'd have to find every single problematic mesh

iirc these crashes only happen with the hwskin patches

[keen rivet]

no i just want to see if theres a specific thing we can nail it down to

[subtle bison]

ah

gotcha

[keen rivet]

like its a hint if its related to material replacements

[keen rivet]

but if you can find more that would also be a hint

[subtle bison]

weird i cant get this mesh to spawn in sandbox

[keen rivet]

pull out phsygun

does it have a green circle

[subtle bison]

nah its just not showing at all with gm_spawn models/skybox_mountain/skybox_mountain_256_d.mdl
prop_dynamic_create models/skybox_mountain/skybox_mountain_256_d.mdl just gives me an error

[keen rivet]

is tf2 mounted?

[subtle bison]

yeah

i can spawn tf2 stuff from the spawnmenu just fine

ill see if i can find an easier mesh to reproduce

[keen rivet]

i dont see models/skybox_mountain/skybox_mountain_256_d.mdl in tf2 vpk

[subtle bison]

guh

[keen rivet]

is that part of the map?

like bspzipped into it?

[subtle bison]

no idea at this moment

ooh that aero map is finally loading for me

and it crashes yippee

[keen rivet]

send the dump

[keen rivet]

ah its still drawmodel

[subtle bison]

fucking workshop

it just decides to randomly redownload a good amount of my addons

[keen rivet]

same model i assume in console?

[subtle bison]

nope

[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/models/props/fr_decoskybox.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/models/props/fr_decoskybox.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/models/props/fr_decoskybox1.mdl
[DrawFix] Entity: prop_dynamic, Model: models/effects/vol_light128x512.mdl```

[keen rivet]

interesting

whichs means it could be unrelated to the model

unless that crashes if you spawn it in sandbox mode

[subtle bison]

nope same thing as the tf2 map lol

so glad the FUCK mod showed up

[keen rivet]

models/effects/vol_light128x512.mdl should exist though

[subtle bison]

ah it shows in the spawnmenu

lemme hook VS before i spawn it

it does not crash

[keen rivet]

thats not rtx tho

[subtle bison]

RT is off so you can see it

[keen rivet]

oh

[subtle bison]

yeah in this case i dont think its down to model quirks

[keen rivet]

ok well that means you have to figure out what function this is

head to instruction pointer (0x00007ffca74173a8)

lemme swap to 64bit gmod and look

[subtle bison]

im going to try disabling the hwskin patches and see if i can reproduce those crashes, i think that would save us some time if it ends up stopping them

[keen rivet]

the instruction pointer seems to be offset, do you habe a better crash from visual studio?

[subtle bison]

better as in?

[keen rivet]

likke what does visual studio show when you hit that crash

[subtle bison]

i can save the full dump if needed

nvm...

[keen rivet]

is that a different crash?

[subtle bison]

2nd occurrence of the same one that i sent you the dump for.

ok i confirmed it

disabling hw skin patches fixes the crashes

i guess ill need to set up some breakpoints?

👁️

[keen rivet]

part of me thinks i did those

[subtle bison]

well i dont think its actually relevant to our issue, that is for actual hw skinning, not the model draw fixes causing the crashes

[keen rivet]

wait those patches arent enabled

[subtle bison]

yeah

as for the model draw hooks, trying to find a place to start printing

[keen rivet]

you changed those sigs at some point

[subtle bison]

ah i was trying to fixup x64 for hw skin patches

i think i got somewhere, there was a vid of it partially working

[keen rivet]

ok so those aren't related to this crash then because i never got those working on 64bit and i think theyre disabled via ifdef

they are

[keen rivet]

why were they enabled for you then?

[subtle bison]

they arent

i posted that first sc before realizing they werent on

[subtle bison]

#1116089843479498782 message
someday...

[keen rivet]

wait were you confusing it with model_draw_hook

[subtle bison]

^

[keen rivet]

or was it prop_fixes

[subtle bison]

its either model draw hook or prop fixes

i have yet to figure that part out yet

[keen rivet]

what is model draw hook

my lighting fixes are prop_fixes

[subtle bison]

guh i thought you made this

[subtle bison]

oh fuck

well

time to disable this

[keen rivet]

bro what are these LOL

[subtle bison]

😭

[keen rivet]

didnt exist when i was active

[subtle bison]

yeah lmao

[keen rivet]

how did you accidentally add an entire patch what

[subtle bison]

wdym accidentally add?

[keen rivet]

like theres this mystery patch that you dont know what it does

and you thought i made it

[subtle bison]

im sure i had a reason for keeping it at that point (i do not remember and it was probably a bad one anyway lmao)

yeah its my fault for sure lmfao

[keen rivet]

it has a confusingly similar nameto mine

[subtle bison]

my dumb ass

[keen rivet]

this looks like it tries to do what mine does

[subtle bison]

hey gues what

guess what works with a specific thing comment out

🙂 🙂

[keen rivet]

what did you change

[subtle bison]

i commented out model draw hook only

so this entire stability issue for almost entire year was caused by some copy-cat code i added that doesnt even do anything

👏

[keen rivet]

brooooooo

😭

you're using vtables as well

those change more than sigs do

mine works higher level

i assume something mustve not been applicable?

[subtle bison]

i really dont remember the reason

😭

[keen rivet]

because I forced static lighting from lua

did you add this for something that didnt work there?

[subtle bison]

iirc this was brought over from cl_rtx.lua but ill need to check

[keen rivet]

no whoops i meant thats supposed to be there

thats right

i posted the image on wrong message

[keen rivet]

image was meant to be on this one

[keen rivet]

the "this" im referring to is the model_draw_hook

if this type exists in a header why not just use that one lol

[subtle bison]

i dont remember, this could've been added when i was messing with hw skinning for x64 and i didnt realize it was conflicting with prop fixes

[onyx ridge]

how are the goings today

[subtle bison]

#1116089843479498782 message 🙂

[keen rivet]

me showing up once a month, helping fix something, and leaving

[subtle bison]

average Xenthio W

well time to remove downgrading and push a hotfix

[keen rivet]

keep it just incase lol

[subtle bison]

im going to leave it commented out then

oh you mean downgrading?

[keen rivet]

yeah

thoguh you can comment model_draw_hook out maybe because you might realise you had it for a reason lol

even then i feel like theres an easier way to do what you were trying to do there?

[subtle bison]

i dont think i will, this is the issue with vibecoding an entire compat mod

[keen rivet]

well thats why i didnt full vibecode lol

[subtle bison]

yeah...

[keen rivet]

i guess you could fix this by documenting what things do better

the ai and also probably you mightve not known where everything was done

[subtle bison]

i mean i really cant do anything about model_draw_hook until the reason comes back into my head lmfao

if its long gone i dont see the use of keeping it around, especially if it causes issues

[keen rivet]

you could creat a doc explaining things like

hash fixes:
first we use lua in blahblah.lua to turn the static lighting flag on
then we in c++ force blahblah blah

because the AI mightve not known we did that first step in lua already

because thats what that file did, it look like it tried to do what i already did in a way more complex way

which to be fair, if theres a model draw that wasnt able to be intercepted by lua, would be needed

so its possible you added that for a reason

[subtle bison]

my best practice is having the AI read existing project files first before starting on something, at least for the last 6 months so this doesnt happen. so i'd like to blame my past self for not being more careful but i'd be lying if i said i'm far better than i was a year ago lmao

[keen rivet]

but i still think it could be done easier and without the need for all those vtables and manual offsets

[keen rivet]

i'm like fully expecting a "OHHH thats why I did that" from you btw LOL

there was probably reason to it

[subtle bison]

yeah it hasnt hit me yet

maybe its a realllllly slow punchline

[keen rivet]

the slow punchline was that it broke months after adding it

[subtle bison]

dude im still kinda in shock about that

[keen rivet]

anyways yeah try to avoid vtables and manual offsets, try to stick to overriding functions via sigs because that seems to change the least

[subtle bison]

i have been tearing hair out trying to figure out these crash issues and it never occured to me to comment out just that until now for some reason

and i went and built an entire downgrading system into the launcher 😭

[keen rivet]

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/commit/be84a28a8bedbf4af2aee0f0247aca1c73c23b5c

[keen rivet]

i couldnt even find messages from you in this server around that time about any change like this

[subtle bison]

me when the Push button is looking mighty fine

anyways, gonna also fix some 32-bit regressions before i push the hotfix

[steel lark]

wth is this lmao

[subtle bison]

the sole reason why the main version of x64 was unstable

[steel lark]

uhmmm

perf is better tho isn't it?

[subtle bison]

i mean not really?

[keen rivet]

perf runs worse for me

[subtle bison]

ok that should not be true

[keen rivet]

well i have super hardware so my bottleneck is probably different

[steel lark]

is the launcher in rust updated?

[subtle bison]

no rustlauncher dead atm

[steel lark]

i don't want to run the launcher in wine

[subtle bison]

super hardware as in?

[keen rivet]

4090 with i9 13900k

[subtle bison]

perf is GPU bottlenecked 90% of the time

[steel lark]

4070 super lmaoo

[subtle bison]

RX 9070 with 7950X3D

[keen rivet]

mine faster

[steel lark]

rtx 3060 with i5-12400f 😭

[subtle bison]

yeah but you'd still be GPU bottlenecked 💀

all of the engine bottlenecks dont exist on the perf fork

can you provide some screenshots?

[keen rivet]

idk then when i last tried it normal ran better for me

my installs are probably a month or two out of date or so

[subtle bison]

normal gmod rtx and perf share the same runtime settings so it should be straightforward to test them

the latest versions at least

[subtle bison]

avalonia has had linux support for a while

[steel lark]

really??

oh

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/releases/tag/v1.2.0

[keen rivet]

since the start it has yeah

avalonia version was built with linux in mind

[steel lark]

zamn

[keen rivet]

i just didnt like rust

[subtle bison]

i prefer avalonia at this point anyway, the c# stuff is just easier to deal with between OS's

most of the changes i make on windows end up working on linux with minimal changes

i think rust was the same but most of it had to be built from the ground up

[lean hatch]

[willow fog]

Holy shit

I just scrolled through allat

Jeez

[steel lark]

main 64 is crashing for me

[subtle bison]

ye the hotfix isnt pushed yet

[steel lark]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/que-país-é-este-que-país-é-esse-legiao-urbana-rock-rock-nacional-gif-364021430038504769

[subtle bison]

tidying up 32-bit since it deserves some love

[steel lark]

🔥

[subtle bison]

SPR works pretty well on 32-bit, but the jump isnt as big as x64

meanwhile perf on x64 LMFAO

[willow fog]

Cr broke gmod

Xenthio fix gmod

Water is wet

[subtle bison]

i mean i technically fixed it because the right thought hit my head but it probably wouldnt have happened without Xenthio's presence

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/releases/tag/v0.9.1

no more downgrading 😅

[subtle bison]

ok ngl a lot of maps are still crashing

im sure we fixed one part of the puzzle but there is something else causing crashes and i dont have a lua trace this time

lovely

i guess we might need to update our patches or something, ill make that a tomorrow me problem

[keen rivet]

Are there other vtable based patches you made?

[steel lark]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIbTmPxIIx_OAK1wofT2LeXZkPhhs0bLPJxFjAje4m_uhLTxgqrm32rnL6JsztHUTR5wKuxPwZfi_nHai8Gs7nWis08MYNJy6S_p798OrujSPgZP0Uicy0O3VZQeBnHMkIxH72QfsVR1w/s0/Flag_of_Brazil.gif

[weak ermine]

#offtopic

[subtle bison]

not that i know of, but i found what's crashing it this time, its ModelRenderHooks. the sigs probably just need to be updated but im going to set a few breakpoints as its not much to go through

[subtle bison]

looks like GetModel() is the culpit

[subtle bison]

ok thanks to claude opus, adding a re-entrance guard to GetModel() fixes the crash

i dont really understand the full context but the game is stable for me now

ill update the 0.9.1 release

so idk if this is a gmod issue but hl2rtx maps have physical trigger props wtf

https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed/releases/tag/v0.9.1

shouldnt need to downgrade anymore?

the addons and maps i was testing work now

[weak ermine]

lmao

[subtle bison]

oh fuck yeah the tf2 gauntlet works

[winter radish]

I miss playing Gmod RTX

[subtle bison]

then play it 🤓

[winter radish]

Nah, my favorite addons don’t even work

[subtle bison]

like wut

[winter radish]

And I stopped hosting a server

[winter radish]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=307175678

It’s the portal doors that don’t work

[subtle bison]

oh yeah those are cursed

[winter radish]

How does Portal get theirs to render?

[subtle bison]

yeah i was thinking just that

ill look into it

[weak ermine]

im coming lois

[subtle bison]

nvidia has this really cool feature called "driver not crashing when r_3dsky is set to 1"

(i am very jealous)

[winter radish]

Just go back to NVIDIA

[weak ermine]

50 series player?

or

u use ur

2080

🥀

[subtle bison]

2080 in my home server

🙂

[weak ermine]

1 frame per something

[subtle bison]

49fps at dlss ultra perf @ 1080p 🥀

RR off

[weak ermine]

kill this guy lol

even with aidia gpu

he turning off rr

this guy is doomed

[subtle bison]

lmao

i didnt like looking at the buggy af water

[weak ermine]

tell deepshitia about that

[keen rivet]

Oh that's odd that means they might not be compiled quite right then

[keen rivet]

I got them working on portal gun addon in gmod rtx

Or kinda working

[polar anchor]

fate worse then death

usually get that in l4d2

[compact blaze]

I don’t get it

[polar anchor]

Sometimes source engine games force you to redownload/scan every single mod you have

[quiet scroll]

Anybody seeing this like this when they fire a weapon? I thought it was something I did to my rtx.conf but I untagged everything and its still showing

[subtle bison]

does it happen if all of your addons are disabled

[quiet scroll]

i so stupid lmaoo

ty

[subtle bison]

if you find the addon causing it, pls let me know

[subtle bison]

[compact blaze]

What happun

Sorry av1 no work

[subtle bison]

messing with hw skinning again on x64

[compact blaze]

I’m sorry for you

[subtle bison]

i mean im definitely further than i was last time

pretty sure i found most of the important signatures for studiorender

@keen rivet

i may be cooking here

AR2 definitely is animating holy shit

[compact blaze]

@livid rapids

[weak ermine]

thats

ahh

interesting

i guess

[subtle bison]

oh its definitely working 👁️

i need to fix the bone matrixes but holy shit this might actually be the day x64 gets hw skinning

😱

[compact blaze]

@livid rapids how are you missing this it’s happening

[compact blaze]

What tool are you using to record videos?

[subtle bison]

obs, but yeah im using av1 as it saves a lot of space and is far higher quality than h264

[subtle bison]

them bones are cursed

[steel lark]

just use a separate model for every frame of every animation

[keen rivet]

HAhaha the eldrich horrors

[weak ermine]

big progress

[compact blaze]

Breaks my heart more devices don’t support av1

[subtle bison]

ios should do sw av1?

my m1 ipad plays it back ok

and i have an older android phone that also plays it

[keen rivet]

iOS supports hw av1 pretty sure

[subtle bison]

i meant if the device didnt support it

sw av1 should play fine on any modern cpu in the last 10 years

[compact blaze]

Av1 refuses to play on my device tho

Like no matter what

And this iPad is from 2021

So weird

[weak ermine]

skill issue

[subtle bison]

can you downlaod the video and play it back?

[compact blaze]

Oh ya I think I already said the device refuses to save it

[subtle bison]

guh

[weak ermine]

skill Issue

[keen rivet]

no crashes on latest non perf version for me

[subtle bison]

yippe i have succeeded then

[keen rivet]

haha the automatic emissives are very cool I havent seen them in action yet

[subtle bison]

i think most of those are already tagged

auto-emissives are disabled by default because some materials misuse the vmt flag that make them emissive

[keen rivet]

ah

[subtle bison]

grigori what did they do to you my boy

[keen rivet]

wait would it be possible to automatically forward normals and envmap masks over to remix lol

[subtle bison]

probably, just need to give the remix api access to the source filesystem

[keen rivet]

phong exponents, etc

[subtle bison]

we'd still need to convert the normals to be compatible with remix though

[keen rivet]

you could probably piece together some sort of primitive "ToPBR" conversion

[subtle bison]

yea

[half viper]

im dead sure that remix does support opengl and directx normal maps

at least when i used to mess around in USDA files with my trusty notepad++

still my favourite way of doing remix replacements

i still can never get used to the toolkit

[subtle bison]

blender toolkit says hi 🤓 https://github.com/sambow23/blender-remix

[weak ermine]

yeah that's cool shit

better than dumbest ai degeneration

"upscaling"

numbers in my vram usage maybe

but not quality

[steel lark]

holy grail of "i don't care about remixing but i do want the maps to have as much fidelity as possible with no external tools"

[keen rivet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison have you been neglecting build scripts i cant build the project]

@subtle bison wtf is module_alt bruh

builds when i delete that file

[royal vortex]

that water looks different..?

[quiet scroll]

more moving lights in remix when

[keen rivet]

you know what I would love to see in rtx remix

realtime hotspot texture replacements

like hotspot textures in source 2

normalmaps if they were real

hands look better with them

theyre compiled into an addon at runtime

[keen rivet]

so simple yet it goes such a long way

the roughness translation worked on poison headcrabs

[weak ermine]

ahhh

ahhhhhhh

lois

im coming

[keen rivet]

some normals come out as very weird though

[livid rapids]

are they properly converted from tangent to octahedron?

they look very good

the problem with envmaps, much more than phong is that certain textures use it to convey really any sense of reflectivity for example this road in bigcity

and the closest modern relative to the envmap is a metallic map

or this one broken window texture

[keen rivet]

yeah

[keen rivet]

see here

[livid rapids]

That's good

[keen rivet]

i'll have a look at this

i am doing some sort of envmap mask parsing

that will be tricky to convert though

[compact blaze]

What are hotspot textures?

[weak ermine]

insane shit

cool sky, clouds, that shit♥️

gmod rtx year

[weak ermine]

check css models

arctic has some sick normals

[weak ermine]

track name?

🙏

[keen rivet]

what track

wait wtf

i have no idea where that music was coming from

idk what that is

LOL

[weak ermine]

💔

[keen rivet]

i had my headphones off

thats not the kind of stuff I listen to anyways lol

[weak ermine]

ghosts

someone hacked ur computor

😱

can u check css models pls

I'm really need this

[keen rivet]

in a moment

[weak ermine]

my models are kinda pbrless

[keen rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[keen rivet]

very interesting lookingmaterials being generated by accident here

[weak ermine]

bro blind

🥀

[keen rivet]

just noticed he doesnt have fucked sized pupils

[weak ermine]

bcz its on texture

[keen rivet]

do css models not do eyes the same as hl2 ones?

[weak ermine]

no

[keen rivet]

ah

[weak ermine]

sicky shiny stuff

[keen rivet]

ok @subtle bison take a peep at this cool thing I'm heading to bed now feel free to continue and finetune it.

It writes to an addon currently, I have no idea if we can just skip that and send the replacements to remix directly.

[keen rivet]

works really well on anything phong enabled

[keen rivet]

.

[weak ermine]

logical

isn't it's like

pbr's dad

[livid rapids]

blinn-phong will be 50 years old next year so uh

granddad

[willow fog]

Wtf did I wake up to

[half viper]

Same

[livid rapids]

The Great ToPBR Revolution for Assets In Need of Placeholder PBR

[half viper]

Good evening

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet may i ask why you used copilot via a github pr. Not that i really have a problem with it, but it seems like that would be a more painful method compared to using an IDE like cursor

anyway this is huge

i need to try mwbase and acr9 with it

[weak ermine]

yeh

someone still doesn't release pbr pack so

better when endless waiting

[subtle bison]

i mean this "good enough" approximation from source engine textures is a lot better than AI generated ones by a long shot

[weak ermine]

yes

[subtle bison]

best part is that it's probably compatible with every texture available

[weak ermine]

ai generated numbers in vram usage

30 freaky gb of ai shit

for css textures

😭🙏

[subtle bison]

yea no thx

[weak ermine]

my ssd is kinda storageless

so

its technically means

that og source water has normals too?

[compact blaze]

You’re saying there’s room for improvement?

[weak ermine]

or its kinda other normals

not normal normals

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[compact blaze]

I’m guessing the only issue that would arise is a quick increase in install size, since it has to copy all the source engine textures into a mod file, so it’d be like double the textures right?

[compact blaze]

Is there a way to fix those ugly sharp shadows on the hand?

[onyx ridge]

we got auto-pulled pbr textures before addon-based replacements

[weak ermine]

vertex triangles

or some shit

[weak ermine]

😭🙏

can detail texture technically be normals/height textures

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1258769577303867463.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[compact blaze]

Wdym by addon based replacements?

[weak ermine]

i think

u download addon from workshop and its only for remix

maybe something like that

idk

[subtle bison]

maybe they mean remix replacements?

unless they really mean replacements from workshop addons

[weak ermine]

who knows

[onyx ridge]

yeah

instead of using moddb use the workshop for replacements

[weak ermine]

its

[weak ermine]

uh

[subtle bison]

no idea about that, i just mean it's an approximation of PBR

[subtle bison]

maybe possible? we'd have to use a supported file format for the workshop

[lean hatch]

cr, what would happen if we men in blacked you

[subtle bison]

good question

[weak ermine]

i cant translate that shit

[subtle bison]

wiped my memory

[weak ermine]

can someone explain

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-mib-will-smith-u-saw-nothing-kharter-gif-12731469441707899432

[weak ermine]

who are you

[subtle bison]

all gmod rtx knowledge erased

[weak ermine]

why im free money billionaire

who is garry

and why he has mod

well

now we can just

subscribe to cool replacements

and remix automatically transfer them to pbr

🤑

hl2 beta aesthetics

oh hell nah

hl2 fake factory remaster

or how it called now

[onyx ridge]

fully modeled

(now ray traced)

[compact blaze]

So from what I’m understanding this method works by converting the source engine textures into mod files remix can load?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[subtle bison]

love how subtle the effect is

[half viper]

the hand textures tho..

[subtle bison]

i havent looked closely to see how it approximates roughness maps, but im sure it wont ever be perfect

anyway, mwbase/arc9 time

[compact blaze]

https://tenor.com/bclgk.gif

[subtle bison]

ngl it does barely anything atm

[willow fog]

y

[weak ermine]

show us mw2019 pewpew things

[subtle bison]

multi stage blending is off

[weak ermine]

tolerable

[subtle bison]

thats arc9 mw19

lemme try mw base

[weak ermine]

that's

mmm

suck balls ngl

[subtle bison]

i think something might be missing for these sweps

it works well on normal source stuff

[half viper]

whats with the image being so blurry

oh wait

im so sorry for you CR

[subtle bison]

yeah not dlss

also im gamestreaming with the game running at 1080p with xess perf preset

i should probably take these at native 1080p