Garry's Mod

[keen rivet]

idk if i ever implemented updater

[subtle bison]

its fine, it still does pretty much everything the winforums launcher does

i did say its a rushed release

[keen rivet]

it should be 1.1.0 i think i made it btw lmao

[subtle bison]

guh

[keen rivet]

oh

maybe i didnt

maybe i only changed the version built for the winform project

you can still fix the original winform version if you wnat

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[keen rivet]

its on another branch

that what i do for fixes

since i still am unsure about the avalonia being ready for release

[subtle bison]

its just updater and mods section thats left right?

[keen rivet]

uhh

i think?

[subtle bison]

i didnt notice any other issues

am i cooking or nah

@winter radish what do you think about this for p2 rtx

we could do all of the lighting work ingame and export it to a mod

[winter radish]

Might be very useful since it's in realtime and could be faster than loading individual captures
I don't know if P2 has a pause command to freeze the game for sequences like the escape scene which are constantly moving

[subtle bison]

bindtoggle r_drawvgui 0

then you can pause the game with the UI off

[winter radish]

cool

this supports all light types?

[subtle bison]

its super early, but depending if this is a desirable feature, i intend to support all of them

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

Reminds me I need to merge all the current assets

I've been sick all week and haven't been very productive

[subtle bison]

radius gizmo is very cool 🤤

[willow fog]

Cr just.... does things, doesn't he?

[subtle bison]

ya

[wind yoke]

Can you run native with the 9070? 🦕

[subtle bison]

native what

[wind yoke]

res

[subtle bison]

depends on the map, but yeah

[wind yoke]

Coolio

[subtle bison]

1080p is okay, but 1440p is pushing it lol

its just like the RTX cards tho lol

[wind yoke]

Might have to give it a whirr with the new 9070xt, then.

[subtle bison]

not many people are running remix at native

[subtle bison]

just barely 30fps @ 1440p native

[subtle bison]

76fps with XeSS 2.1 quality @ 1440p looks almost like native (until you move )

[wind yoke]

I enjoy source 1 in particular because in spite of all its shortcomings, it isn't a temporal ghosting mess. Never once had an upscaler work as advertised.

[subtle bison]

you'd need a upscaler for native anyway with remix

for temporal jittering so the whole image isnt a jagged mess

[wind yoke]

🙁

Might work out, ig

[subtle bison]

i mean look for yourself, look how bad it looks without XeSS

[wind yoke]

Haven't tried yet. Can't roast it.

[subtle bison]

this is native 1440p with no upscaler

[wind yoke]

GeForce 3 throwbacks

[subtle bison]

you dont get any upscaling artifacts if you run them at native so i dont think you'll have any issues there

[wind yoke]

Fair.

Thank you for the info. ⭐

[subtle bison]

here is a short vid, you tell me

[woeful phoenix]

Did you guys manage to get the HW skinning thing going with the dark messiah code

[subtle bison]

not completely

i think xenthio made some decent progress but nothing for actual meshes with more than 0 bones

so skinned props work, but nothing else

[woeful phoenix]

I see

0-1 bone still use the root position so it may not be as much progress as it seems 🙁

But you guys are using the API directly in some cases, have you tried pushing the tris that way?

[subtle bison]

its enough for most hl2rtx props, which is what i think we settled on for now

[subtle bison]

nope

the API usage on x64 is very cursed so doing per-frame draw calls has always resulted in instability, at least for me. so lights for example are now completely managed in the runtime, our API just tells it when to update, create, and delete lights

it works fine for those but i imagine pushing meshes that way would absolutely not work

we could probably do it on x32 if we ever end up using the bridge api

[keen rivet]

no

i had much struggle finding equivalent hashes and stuff for the hooks

[willow fog]

Yeah same. My 4090 can't keep up with 1440p. Dlss quality works really well though.

[keen rivet]

I'm fine at 1440p on 4090

I play 70 fps or so at native res

Then it's framegen to 130

[willow fog]

Won't hit 79 for me

It's close to 50-60

[compact blaze]

how rushed is it?

[compact blaze]

also thx for still having the actual log

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison why is everything blue when restir/importance sampled is enabled instead of nrc

[subtle bison]

huh

can you word that in a different way

[compact blaze]

stuff becomes more blue when i have restir enabled

[compact blaze]

sry i meant nrc in the end

the legend

[subtle bison]

legacy emissives break when enhanced assets are loaded, just untag it

[subtle bison]

idk i dont have that issue

[willow fog]

LET ME UPDAAAAAAATE

fuck, my internet is so slow rn

[compact blaze]

Does anyone elsw have this issue on a clean install of gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

did you try turning off RR

[willow fog]

hl2 stuff how?

[subtle bison]

1. mount hl2rtx using the new launcher
2. apply USDA fixes
3. done

[willow fog]

new launcher where

[subtle bison]

same url as the old one

how to kill gmod rtx
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3572440635&searchtext=

havent tried it myself yet but i imagine it will be 1fps

[subtle bison]

whoops, you also need to install the newest runtime

so its actually

1. update to 9/21/2025 build of dxvk-remix-gmod
2. mount hl2rtx using the new launcher
3. apply USDA fixes
4. done

[willow fog]

ughhh

I have to learn a new thing

uuuuuuuuuuu

[subtle bison]

like?

[willow fog]

The new launcher

But I learned it dw

Once hl2 fully releases, many maps are going to look fresh

[willow fog]

I suppose skinned meshes don't work?

This would have looked so good

[subtle bison]

naw its a major pain in the ass

[willow fog]

damn

How are hl2 guys doing it?

[subtle bison]

they have full engine source code

we dont

[willow fog]

I wonder if one could commit some crimes within the hl2rtx dev group

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[subtle bison]

would be really convenient if hl2rtx was based on source sdk 2013 x64

could make the RE work far easier

i do not wanna maintain gmod x32 😭

[willow fog]

lol

[willow fog]

Uh. Can I get the anchor meshes from the hl2rtx ravenholm map?

Wait, nah

I think it's working.

Why is the sky so bright though

[subtle bison]

the hl2rtx ravenholm maps really piss off niknaks, nova prospekt works fine

[subtle bison]

no idea, maybe they handle the skybox differently

[willow fog]

what was the skybox enable command?

[subtle bison]

r_3dsky 1

idek if ravenholm has a 3d skybox tho

it might be 2d only

[compact blaze]

yup

rr off

[willow fog]

great

I accidentally travelled to the previous map

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[subtle bison]

[willow fog]

fucking soure and its smart ass loading

uuuuuuuuuuuu

I just want to fight the combine with hq weapons

oh cool

gmod just keeled over and died

[subtle bison]

avg source engine experience

[willow fog]

Try again

gotta wait 15 hours for mats to load

[weak ermine]

"i wanna fight some combines"

[willow fog]

crasha again

[weak ermine]

but instead of that bro fighting with sause engin

[willow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[weak ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-plankton-meme-gif-15640350090336605258

[willow fog]

?

[weak ermine]

too much pixels

on textures

[subtle bison]

are you loading maps while also loading enhancements

[willow fog]

no

I waited for them to load first

[weak ermine]

looks like u gonna wait again

[willow fog]

relaunched gmod

Seems to be loading now

crash

[weak ermine]

combines dont want to fight with u

[compact blaze]

wow

[brittle token]

them lucky mfs

[weak ermine]

broken uhh triangle fingers

[brittle token]

i mean, if people have an RT capable GPU, there's no way in hell they are using 32 bit windows

[weak ermine]

i see something dumb

in ur message

[brittle token]

yea, it's me qwq

[brittle token]

whachumean

[weak ermine]

what does gmod x32 have to do with windows

like bro

by default gmod is on x32

[zealous narwhal]

Damn gm_adit looks better with HL2 RTX enhancements

That floor

[brittle token]

that gmod is 32 bits by default for compatibility (game's from 2005). by now, every pc is capable of running gmod 64 bits, and things seem to work better both in vanilla x64 gmod and in x64 gmrtx

[smoky otter]

try with tarkov weapons. Their models are crazy detailed

[willow fog]

Game crashed

[compact blaze]

also with pseudoplayer how do yall get that working? whenever i enable it in menu nothin happens

[willow fog]

HL2 but gordon decided to pack some HEAT

[weak ermine]

bro cant jump crouch

[willow fog]

Can't

[weak ermine]

hl2 but gordon served in rangers

[willow fog]

Okay gmod is really unstable

Just crashes way too often

[polar anchor]

It happens to me too. Usually when the camera moves too fast or when spraying guns

Sucks to wait 20 mins to get in only to crash from almost nothing lol

[weak ermine]

i guess

"nothing"

is ur 20 minutes

of loading 100000 addons

[compact blaze]

how do yall get pseudoplayer working?

[weak ermine]

restart map i guess

[compact blaze]

decided to play elevator and ohhhhhhhh nooooo

[polar anchor]

No. Id be in the map and then boom freeze and crash from nothing. Like id have nothing spawned in or id be shooting a firearm for a few seconds.

[weak ermine]

just like i said

10000 addons in memory

[willow fog]

Crashes crashes crashes

[weak ermine]

no way

bro crouch jumped

progress

[subtle bison]

iirc the culling patches are the source of crashes.

[willow fog]

source mentioned

[subtle bison]

the custom render fork has been 100% stable but im still not recommending it due to it being kinda jank compared to normal source rendering

[willow fog]

How jank

[subtle bison]

1. how well entity anti-culling works highly depends on the map
2. displacements dont fully match engine rendered ones
3. api lights are still sorta noisy compared to game lights.

[willow fog]

hm

[subtle bison]

I'd say its 90% there

oh yea and 4. hl2rtx model replacements don't work

[willow fog]

I should give it a try if there's a build

[subtle bison]

different mesh hashes

[willow fog]

ahhhhhh

fuuuuuu

nvm

[subtle bison]

nah not yet

maybe within a week or two, but it will definitely not be as polished as normal gmod rtx

[willow fog]

hm

But would you rather crashing every 5 minutes or slightly janky rendering

[subtle bison]

the latter, it was nice having gmod rtx open for like 4 hours

[livid rapids]

I've crashed with IVP errors on normal gmod recently

Rubat's just fucking things up when porting from csgo branch

[keen rivet]

i assume you're way more skilled than me lol, did you want to have a look maybe?

[subtle bison]

has anyone tried vphysics jolt on x64 to see if it fixes the crash issues?

[willow fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1370776315266859131/1420052131561607179/4K_views_20_reactions__Jensen_please_my_wallet_cant_take_it_anymore_pcgaming_pcgamer_gaming_pcsetup_gamer__SignalRGB_1918488408997758.mp4?ex=68d3fe1b&is=68d2ac9b&hm=c06e02fe1ed83171199c243da04666c3513a51401b48952501dd92040a89dfb4&

[compact blaze]

wowie

hm

[subtle bison]

the skybox table returns

[wind yoke]

The OG upscaler

[livid rapids]

huh

Sure

oh

[subtle bison]

you're the 2nd person to have the disappearing world geometry

did rubat fuck up something

also how do yall get that table to show up 😭

[livid rapids]

spawnmenu

other dude had it spawn on the map

[subtle bison]

when i get the time i can fix the weird table, but the disappearing world geometry is definitely new

[livid rapids]

it's high time for an xdelta downgrader

[subtle bison]

lol yeah downgrading would be the easy way out

im thinking about uploading the may build binaries to a github repo and then providing a md5 hash so it can be verified against the steam depot

would be easier than trying to get the launcher to download the depo itself, no auth

[livid rapids]

i don't know how would facepunch react to binaries just being on github

[livid rapids]

could use the builtin steam console instead of steamcmd

[subtle bison]

ah yeah i forgot about that

that would be preferable, ill see what i can do

[livid rapids]

huh

only happens if I stand exactly in 81.078697 7.660676 128.031250

[subtle bison]

rubat what the fuck

[livid rapids]

oh my god bruh

this reminds me of culling issues in like 0.3

[subtle bison]

this is like anti-anti-culling

[livid rapids]

Yeah

it's even geometrical

Amazing triangle

[weak ermine]

thats eeh

bigass table

[subtle bison]

i wonder if removing the culling patches fix it, if not, we're really fucked

[livid rapids]

models/props_wasteland/laundry_cart001.mdl possible skybox bug as well

don't have a 3dsky to see

[subtle bison]

you mean it being stupidly large?

im pretty sure the issue comes from the usda fixes so having the mesh hash would help me a lot. but i can hunt them down as well when i can get to my pc

[livid rapids]

Jesus I got fucking jumpscared

big ass gibs

[subtle bison]

lmao

[lapis delta]

anti culling culling club

[subtle bison]

@livid rapids does the issue only happen with hl2rtx assets mounted? i just did a fresh install and everything seems fine so far

no weird culling

[livid rapids]

you know I could check but I quit the game and now it crashes at menus

so I gave up but probably yeah

[subtle bison]

maybe its a nvidia thing? if anything, the game is very stable for me lmao

no weird physics crashes so far

[livid rapids]

No that's definitely a standard issue

[wispy crest]

I've never seen the elusive table

[subtle bison]

i meant for the weird geometry culling

[livid rapids]

I'll check if it loads without rtx mounted

[subtle bison]

did yall re-toggle RT to see if it fixes it?

[subtle bison]

I think I was able to reproduce it?

re-toggling RT does fix it

[subtle bison]

the ominous sky table is fixed :3

[subtle bison]

nah, the model itself doesnt exist but the replacement block existed in the USDA, leading it to being invisible

[livid rapids]

interesting

it happened with a few of the book models too

didn't test too much after that

[subtle bison]

the entire hl2rtx demo is like that, my script missed a lot of blocks because even if the model didnt exist, the textures did, so the script left them untouched

fixed now

[subtle bison]

do you remember which one?

[livid rapids]

most of the ones in comic props

[subtle bison]

seem to be working

good LORD these models are detailed

anyway, fixes are pushed

just press the USDA fixes button again and everything should be good

[livid rapids]

did you see the pc gpu model on hl2rtx twitter

shit has EVERYTHING modeled

[subtle bison]

nop

[livid rapids]

https://fixvx.com/hl2rtxofficial/status/1940117359009964257

Half-Life 2 RTX Official (@hl2rtxofficial)

↪️ Replying to @hl2rtxofficial

And a look at the human - an old, battered PC in the lab, powered by a period-appropriate Geforce256, both by Michael McCormick!

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 1, 2025, 6:36 PM

[subtle bison]

[subtle bison]

we are so blessed

[livid rapids]

I'm surprised now that I can properly inspect every model, some of them had been on hl2 assets remade for hlx and have been replaced by other versions

Many are missing, I still have their spawnicons

And some are still the old remade assets versions, like the vending machine or the big combine terminal

[subtle bison]

❤️

fucking vphysics

thats it im trying jolt

to absolutely no surprise, it fixed the stability issues

nvm

[subtle bison]

static prop replacements sort of work in the custom render fork lol

i think its just the textures applying and not the meshes since the UVs look weird

a lot of physics props dont work either even though their hashes are stable, might be worth implementing the rainbow table idea

hl2rtx water looks wack

[wispy crest]

thats how water looks

you just cant see it because your eyes get all blury

[subtle bison]

real

[brittle token]

wait. is Nvidia canon in hl2RTX??

[brittle token]

i swear some of the people that coded the water refraction thingy have never seen water before, water irl compresses a bit, but not that much holy fuc

[wispy crest]

a voodoo card is fully modeled in alyx

[brittle token]

oh god

[wispy crest]

Nvidia bought 3dfx (they made the voodoo card)

[cerulean moat]

guys, im trying to get garrys dxvk to work, but im getting this error where powershell just cant detect visual studio somehow, but i have it right here

[cerulean moat]

fixed it

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison can you guess what is the reason why it doesn't compile completely?

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/why-do-u-ping-ping-discord-discord-ping-ping-why-did-you-ping-gif-8379994546500872858

idk maybe expell the demon out of your pc

[lapis delta]

thank you

[weak ermine]

the demon

of caustics

[lapis delta]

it almost finished compiling, but something went wrong and in the end you get this

[manic hazel]

Just a quick update, the commit regresses our internal tests, so we'll need to dig into that.

[livid rapids]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/warzone-20-rtx/downloads/mwiishared

Pistols in like 5 minutes when it finishes uploading

https://www.moddb.com/mods/warzone-20-rtx/downloads/mwii-pistols-rtx

[subtle bison]

WE ARE FEASTING

@willow fog your turn

🤤

mah gawd its so beautiful

[wind yoke]

That's close to photoreal. Wow.

[subtle bison]

accumulation mode @ native 1440p 🤤

[livid rapids]

Hands incoming

[subtle bison]

viewmodel idle animation makes a perfect fake dof holy shit

[livid rapids]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/warzone-20-rtx/downloads/iw9-handsrigs-rtx-pack

@willow fog Your turn

[livid rapids]

If only skinned meshes had stable hashes and motion vectors... we could have the sexy ass weapon motion blur

Oh and bonus stuff coming!

[livid rapids]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/warzone-20-rtx/downloads/iw9-battle-pass-props-rtx

[compact blaze]

goated

[livid rapids]

Quick recap of everything I just dropped

MWII Shared Content + Pistols (shared content will expand once the remaining weapon packs are released)

c_hands + MWB rigs pack (for PMs use enhanced playermodel selector with hands support, rigs are only for MWB weapons, toggled in the MWB spawnmenu options)

Battle pass props as a bonus, use them for showcasing the weapons, scenebuilding, or whatever you want!

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison ya this is so weird, seems to be an issue with remix in general where at least for 50 series cards restir and importance sampled has a lot of its rays be blue

basically all the indirect light is blue tinted

[willow fog]

Ughhhhhhhh

Ughhhhhhhh

I don't

Ughhhhhhhh

I just need to finish the SMGs

[compact blaze]

mfw

[weak ermine]

view model enabled

[subtle bison]

yep no issues here on AMD

[compact blaze]

Ya it’s an issue I encountered using the latest official remix release on other games

[subtle bison]

env_projectedtexture support for remix api lights

should work for games like portal 2

still need to fix the cone shaping

[wispy crest]

cone lights

[subtle bison]

yipee its accurate now

looks like its working

very peak

@winter radish gmod rtx has better light support for portal 2 maps than portal 2 rtx does itself 🤓

[weak ermine]

but scripts are dead

[subtle bison]

guh

wdym

[weak ermine]

u cant compete game from beginning to end normally

[subtle bison]

oh yea

[weak ermine]

bcz begining

not begin

💔

so its kinda useless

[subtle bison]

nah a lot of community maps use the entity

[weak ermine]

i remember only one

atmosphere house

for tv light

[subtle bison]

guh i need to try that

[weak ermine]

i accidentally find this when play around on that map

and boom

env_projectedtexture

[subtle bison]

it def works but its not very bright

[weak ermine]

and some 0 fps bcz of volumetrics which i forget to disable

[winter radish]

Is that why I’m constantly seeing lights everywhere in the toolkit that do nothing?

[subtle bison]

no, they won't even show in the toolkit

xoxor4d hasnt done any handling for those

[winter radish]

Did you just create a light system that accurately converts all the OG lights to pathtraced ones?

[subtle bison]

somewhat accurate, but yeah. The lights dont exist ingame tho

They're networked entities at the very least, all of the updating and rendering happens in the binary module

[winter radish]

I might have to use Blender soon
Remix toolkit is making it difficult to recreate a light

[subtle bison]

i think you can also spawn lights via the p2rtx imgui menu

[willow fog]

FUCK yes

I've been asking xoxor

For light support

For ages

[subtle bison]

iirc remix will accidentally capture api lights so i could just make captures for every map and re-export them as a mod

[willow fog]

But. I can't say much because the whole reason p2 even works is that I kept bugging him for that specific game over and over again.

[winter radish]

I haven’t tried it but it’s about the direction of the light

[compact blaze]

GOATED

GOATED GOATED GOATED

I wonder when remix will add support for example lights that project an image

[subtle bison]

i think dome supports that?

i havent looked too far into it tho

[compact blaze]

I mean like an actual projector

Also this bucket is stupidly detailed god

[subtle bison]

what da hell is that 3rd image

[compact blaze]

Beam addon

[subtle bison]

finally, a way to demonstrate PVS culling, some guy left a huge floor under a map

[compact blaze]

@livid rapids dude ur asset port looks insane

[subtle bison]

entirely different game with these mods

[half viper]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=finnish&id=3003051584&searchtext=

@subtle bison can you try this map?

Its really big

[brittle token]

im only now noticing how much sheer space this blank area takes lol

cant even see the full viewport

seems it's the stage manager's fault

[subtle bison]

its pretty well optimized

depending on where you are, you get like 80 fps

i think im GPU bottlenecked for the most part

[polar anchor]

Finally! Hopefully mwbase wont break my install again

Gmod RTX is a house of cards, one wrong card and the whole thing tumbles

I already have CW2, ARC9, and TFA working together rn

[subtle bison]

none of these should perma break a gmod install

especially mw base

i've had all of these co-exist without any issues other than vram consumption

[polar anchor]

should is the word of the day xD

[subtle bison]

ill be more direct
dont

they might have bugs themselves but they should never have to result in a reinstall, they dont have that kind of access

[half viper]

why is the underground so bright?

[polar anchor]

oh i didnt mean it that way, i meant the list was working but the moment i added mwb stuff it broke. thats what I meanyt. Anyways just installing this one MWB pack worked but im getting broken verticies when sprinting and the world disappears when shooting

[subtle bison]

i prob left on some light strength multipliers

[polar anchor]

also third person is still broken on my end, im thinking it is vamnip breaking that maybe with rtx. Im really not sure

[polar anchor]

sam with my view tilt. Does remix have issues with tilting/moving cams?

[subtle bison]

no, those issues are probably created by render targets with their own cameras which remix does not like

its the same reason why 3d skyboxes are so buggy

[polar anchor]

wait maybe third person broken cuz of dynamic height 2, bro maybe i should test that lol

[polar anchor]

somehow they got tilt working on wolfenstein 2009 recently

[subtle bison]

?
like i said, the main game camera supports everything the normal gmod supports

so you can do any kind of transform

[compact blaze]

This fucking bucket

[compact blaze]

Also wdym by dome?

[brittle token]

dear god

[compact blaze]

https://vxtwitter.com/sourcegallery1/status/1971721687332016263

Source Gallery (@sourcegallery1)

Shard, Counter Strike Source (Source 1)

vxTwitter / fixvx · Sep 26, 2025, 11:40 PM

imagine this in rtx

[polar anchor]

Load it up bro

[compact blaze]

idk where the map is 💔

[weak ermine]

bro really cant just

google

shard counter strike source

💀

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3132648839

[subtle bison]

dome remix light

[wispy crest]

will 3d skybox ever be possible

[compact blaze]

it is its just iirc it gets pretty buggy sometimes

like 3d skybox melding into the main world

[compact blaze]

sadly no references of a dome light

[winter radish]

I want a spotlight

[compact blaze]

insane still no spotlight?

oh no... nrc's biggest weakness!

a blank room!

[winter radish]

Makes some scenes difficult

[compact blaze]

ikr

[subtle bison]

oh

i thought that was a light type

[compact blaze]

Any more context on dome?

Is it actually smth part of remix just thru the api?

[subtle bison]

nah it doesnt exist

[brittle token]

mirror's edge mentioned 🔥

[brittle token]

omg guys i cant believe it, im in a graphics tech demoo! :D

oh no i messed up

no idea what causes this evil aura on some cloths

but transformers seems to fix it

like, it's still there, just less

[wind yoke]

Unreal 3.5! 🥲

[dull comet]

nodraw shows the material at the other side

is there a way to make NODRAW or INVISIBLE (source engine material tools) to not show its backside

[weak ermine]

open remix menu and checks this textures as "ignore texture"

[dull comet]

for an example i have ablock thats nodraw on one side and a wall o another

the nodraw side is invisible

but wherever i look the wall side is visible

normally in source if you look thru the nodraw sign

you should not see any other texture owned by that bruck or brush

[compact blaze]

YOOOOO

[quasi blaze]

i finally got a 4060

i was able to run Portal with RTX

[subtle bison]

nodraw uses PVS to not draw those, the culling patches force the engine to draw everything

[quasi blaze]

now i'm downloading gmod rtx

[dull comet]

hmm

any way to

change

this?

[subtle bison]

not at the moment, controlling how the anti-culling works becomes a lot more complex when patching engine binaries

[dense crow]

Threat interactive posted!

[willow fog]

WOAH

lets gooo

[dense crow]

Man I love my rubber trash

[willow fog]

Yeah, okay lambert in ue5 is stupid

I saw it a while ago

[livid rapids]

Oh god

[willow fog]

What is the state of Gmod, y'all?

Too quiet

Not even slow mode needed

This does not bode well

[subtle bison]

im busy with a lot of life stuff so development has slowed down

[willow fog]

Mmm

Fair

Go win at life, king.

[keen rivet]

gary mode

[meager oar]

lary mode

[runic gale]

lazy mode

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison i wanted to ask you what would be better to choose regarding ai for coding or changing code: claude sonnet 4 or gpt 4o?

[subtle bison]

claude sonnet 4.5 or gpt 5 codex

also gpt 5 high is also good

[lapis delta]

are these versions bad or what?

[willow fog]

4o is old asf

Relatively speaking, you'll be better off using 5

[lapis delta]

and sonnet 4?

is it bad and old or what?

[lapis delta]

as i see, many people praise this ai

[willow fog]

Sonnet 4 is good. They released 4.5 yesterday.

I've done some tests before. So far, I've found the Claude lineup to be the best at code. Though I've never tried any of the gpt models. Not for code.

They seem okay at best.

[subtle bison]

gpt-5-high has been super consistent for me

[keen rivet]

GEMINI 2.5 PRO 🔥

[modern quest]

sonnet 4.5 outperformed everything i tried

including opus 4

4.5 was able to fix a problem in my video upscaling architecture in one go. even Opus 4 was struggling

[wispy crest]

smh fake coders

[runic gale]

cool.

[quiet scroll]

anybody ever seen dis?

[runic gale]

probably it's model thing

[past notch]

yeah, this is a Source Engine issue when you have a model that is too high-poly in the actual engine

I'm not exactly certain what causes this as different models seem to get away with wildly different polycounts

I tend to encounter it most with animated models (which is where I think the "dynamic" part possibly comes in)

[livid rapids]

Yeah I remember this high poly issue was very prevalent on ragdolls

You'd kill a high poly npc and the game would just crash

[runic gale]

In fact a Directx 9 models runs fine. If it's Model poly more than what Directx 9+ can handle it should but if it's at fixed Directx 9 verison that RTX is running on. It's just don't work.

[past notch]

I still occasionally get this problem in my own sourcemods (which aren't on RTX Remix, just SDK Base 2013 Singleplayer) - I would anticipate the limit is probably higher, though

and as for Gmod specifically, people uplod all kinds of crazy models to the workshop, so I wouldn't be surprised if this particular issue is patched in some way in gmod

[brittle token]

no way, the horizon is in the middle of the sky

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison i wanted to ask you about sharc, how did you try to integrate it? i'm asking this purely for the future

[subtle bison]

i dont remember

[lapis delta]

sharc code and remix code were in the same folder, so that the ai could see both codes or what?

[brittle token]

i've seen it, the operational end of the device..

[willow fog]

Careful

[subtle bison]

very carefuly

[brittle token]

hl2 rtx now works perfectly, that one bug was tanking my fps

i know for a fact that it isn't a problem in gmod thankfully (though joining the game and seeing 200+ fps would be nice lol)

[austere oak]

ta

[smoky otter]

118ms wth

[winter radish]

Me and CR played the HL2 RTX maps in Gmod RTX, lol

It was pretty cool

[compact blaze]

What bug?

[brittle token]

portal rtx and half life 2 rtx were behaving as if they were on the background and not foreground, that caused the nvidia control thingy to cap the fps to 20. changed it, and now it runs way better (60 )

this mf was the culprit

[grave lava]

I wonder how it runs on a 3060 ti i might install it and do that fix

I see videos with 30 but im guessing thats accurate even with the background max framerate turned off lol

https://tenor.com/view/craig-robinson-sad-crying-and-gif-15305174

[compact blaze]

difference is insane right?

[weak ermine]

yeah

i think this glock have as many triangles as map has itself

[subtle bison]

this will be garrysmod in 2011

[winter radish]

HAND!

[willow fog]

Got damn, where are those hands from?

[wind yoke]

I want brick wrinkles too.

[livid rapids]

collect my hands

https://www.moddb.com/mods/warzone-20-rtx/downloads/iw9-handsrigs-rtx-pack

Sadly at least you can't use the ones in the screenshot but there's some normal PMs in there too

[willow fog]

M

[smoky otter]

Mmm wrinkly

[subtle bison]

hi gmod chat

[livid rapids]

I wish I knew how to use the SSS stuff so it doesn't look so ass

cod uses some type of SSS map but I haven't got them to look correctly

[wispy crest]

never could figure out how to apply sss in the toolkit correctly

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison how can i make changes related to spatial reuse to your gmod branch?

[subtle bison]

make a pull request

so fork my repo, commit your changes to that fork, then use the github website to submit them as a PR

[compact blaze]

How do these changes improve noise quality?

[haughty goblet]

Highly unlikely they do, with ad-hoc changes to restir you generally just bias it to hell and back

[brittle token]

legit, i dont think there even is a button for it

this fr?

no tutorials

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison im still working with the restir, but i still wanted to know for sure.

[proud mural]

how to not get 31 fps with an rtx 2060 DLSS Ultra Performance

[onyx ridge]

get a better gpu idk

[proud mural]

that would no longer be an rtx 2060

[subtle bison]

assuming you're gpu bottlenecked, there isnt much you can do

[proud mural]

gpu bottlenecked?

as in, the gpu is just weak orr

[subtle bison]

as in it being fully utilized by the game

like 99% usage

if it's already 99% and your fps is around 31, it's too weak

[proud mural]

well vram was 90% that i remember

[subtle bison]

i used to have a rtx 2080 and the highest i could go was dlss performance @ 1080p, but i never really got over 40fps lol

[proud mural]

so if u have rtx 20s its over?

[subtle bison]

30 fps is technically playable, at least to me. you just have to adjust your expectations.

remix is very demanding so while a 2060 is a decent gpu for other games, remix needs faster

[proud mural]

i mean it makes it look way too good, like prob 2024 graphics or something, but if it is possible to config it to become 2020 graphics where it can be runnable on an 2060 it would be cool

[subtle bison]

it's path tracing so that's not really possible

what you see is what you get

[proud mural]

so if i want a "less pretty" look to get better performance i need a diff tool?

reshade sucks

[subtle bison]

there is some tricks to make it run slightly better but it won't be a 50% improvement

[onyx ridge]

i have a laptop 4050 and it can barely eke out like, 20fps most of the time

it does have framegen which does help a lot but still

[subtle bison]

20 fps + frame gen 💔

[proud mural]

which trick

[onyx ridge]

i am not playing competitive shooters like that don't worry

[proud mural]

i am using this btw https://github.com/Xenthio/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed

oh i also tried lossless scaling

it's good but...

when it spikes down to sub 40 it becomes ugly

[subtle bison]

when i can get near my pc i can send screenshots of what settings to change

[proud mural]

and input lag

[brittle token]

imagine if, frame gen, but not 4000

*gets shot by a Nvidia employee

[proud mural]

also a lot of the time (eg. rn) when i leave it in background for a few mins it freezes and i have no choice but to term

like if im afk or watching vid or smth

[willow fog]

I have a desktop 4090.
It does not hit 60 fps at 1440p native

I need to use dlss quality

No way a 2060 is doing much

[weak ermine]

play at 77p and dlss ultra performance

with low settings

or just without rtx remix lol

[proud mural]

even 1p is still 31 fps

[weak ermine]

i think its skill issue

or its some secret marketing plan from nvidia

who knows

[proud mural]

even without skill issue it's 31 fps

hard cap

[weak ermine]

secret marketing plan

[proud mural]

rtx 2060 was marketted as 31 fps

[weak ermine]

its means u need

6090

for 30k$

[proud mural]

my wallet is 31 fps, can't

[weak ermine]

skill

issue

[winter radish]

RX 7600 level, fr

[subtle bison]

@proud mural uncheck the two checkboxes pictured and set indirect illumination to importance sampled

i get about a 30 fps jump on my AMD RX 9070

not sure how nvidia scales though

[proud mural]

even without skill issue it's 31 fps

[subtle bison]

honestly it might be worth including a low-end rtx.conf file and then add the ability to select it via rtxlauncher

i think @winter radish knows a few more options to change as well

[proud mural]

im trying this rn

[subtle bison]

it wont help with your npc fights btw, but it should improve general perf

[proud mural]

same fps, not much changed

just did it

[subtle bison]

rip

what is your cpu

[proud mural]

i5 12400F

[winter radish]

That’s what I do for RDNA 2 as well

Tho P2 RTX was giving us problems from what I remember

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-anime-girl-annoyed-anime-girl-gif-11942012416213248789

[proud mural]

screw this im switching to my nvidia geforce 210 card, it will be beast in rtx remix right?

[subtle bison]

decent for remix, probably not the bottleneck then

[proud mural]

i did a recent pc upgrade that's why. i upgraded everything apart from gpu

it's currently the weakest part in my rig

[winter radish]

My CPU bottlenecks my GPU

[subtle bison]

join the X3D race 🤓

[proud mural]

time flies tbh back when i bought it in 2019 rtx 2060 was a beast

[winter radish]

Plan to when I’m not broke

[subtle bison]

used 7950X3D or 7800X3D is calling your name

[winter radish]

For a few more, the 9800X3D is calling me

It’s funny because AM4 is technically not dead, it’s still getting new CPUs

RDNA 3 is also still going for some reason
Got a new GPU for that as well

[weak ermine]

boobooboo

buy nvidi gpu

[winter radish]

I did, it sucks

RTX 5000 drivers are some of the worse I’ve experienced

[weak ermine]

buy 4000 rtx nvidi gpu

[modern quest]

i made low end presets here: https://github.com/Kim2091/rtx-remix-custom-configs

[smoky otter]

buy nvidia cpu

[winter radish]

Ah yes, Downgrade 💀

[winter radish]

It can go lower

[weak ermine]

ah yes, drivers problems ♥️

[winter radish]

Maybe NVIDIA Should have tested things before releasing

[subtle bison]

visualizations for spawned API lights
need to make them a bit thicker damn it looks good 🤤

this looks a lot better

i think im done with this for now, looks great

[winter radish]

I wonder if Gmod RTX was on Steam if the Half-Life 2 RTX team would lend their assets

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderation-ban-mod-ban-gif-9351874248631360646

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-caped-crusader-caped-crusader-batman-batman-pose-gif-12537728247115118999

I am Steam man

[subtle bison]

man do i love networked entities

(watch the lag lol)

[winter radish]

Turn on Ray Reconstruction please

[subtle bison]

physics prop hidden, gravity disabled, and made visualization outlines stand out better

i think the api lights are pretty polished now

[keen rivet]

YOU SWAPPED TO NVIDIA???? WELCOME BACK

[winter radish]

I've been on NVIDIA

[keen rivet]

your username was an amd card before wasnt it

[winter radish]

I changed it in April 😭

[keen rivet]

oh bruhhhhhhhhhh

lmao

shows how much i pay attention

[subtle bison]

dynamic physics models

i still have the default cube physics on so its a lil buggy

[subtle bison]

this is so peak

apparently -multirun exists, time to torture my gpu with 2 gmod rtx's

[livid rapids]

I'm constantly surprised by people not knowing multirun exists

I ❤️ DXT

[subtle bison]

holy shit most of my custom render changes work in MP 🙀

api lights also work

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-homelander-the-boys-homelander-sad-homelander-its-peak-homelander-peak-gif-14542009839452529163

@keen rivet u seein this shit

[keen rivet]

Try connect to vanilla server

[subtle bison]

u damn well know it ain't gonna work there 😜

[winter radish]

Finally, I can cancel my RTX server

[subtle bison]

guh

nah you still need it

even more so since the game is gonna be a culling mess without the addon on vanilla servers

[winter radish]

I have the power to delete the only RTX compatible server

https://tenor.com/view/xxiisoul-thanos-gif-23843096

And you know, what?
I’d use the extra money on another Minecraft server

[subtle bison]

😟

[winter radish]

I forgot I left the Gmod one on Slenderman, lmao

Perfect for October anyway I guess

[proud mural]

i think only your fork will help then

[smoky otter]

🥶

[brittle token]

any idea why gmod looks so big?

supposedly the resolution matches

changing to fullscreen and back fixed it

weird

[polar anchor]

Seen that bug before

[brittle token]

why is gmod talking to adobe

[subtle bison]

guh

[smoky otter]

buh

[smoky otter]

They are having a date ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[royal vortex]

haven't been here for awhile, is the new gmod rtx update up?

[winter radish]

Is it on Steam yet

https://tenor.com/view/yamamoto-yamamoto-shigekuni-genryusai-yamamoto-shigekuni-bankai-zanka-no-tachi-gif-27096936

Me in 2050:

[subtle bison]

hu

[royal vortex]

huh

i also took a look at the Remix Lights, they look way better than what it uses as of now.

[subtle bison]

is that what you meant by update?

[subtle bison]

you mean used to be?

[royal vortex]

yeah.

[royal vortex]

is the new version avalible in the rtx launcher to download is what i mean

[subtle bison]

the custom render / api light stuff isnt pushed yet, i intended to release it yesterday but things came up, im aiming for this weekend now

[royal vortex]

awesome. will be looking foward to it.

[weak ermine]

that's some

reflective gun

[viscid ocean]

map name?

oh

wait its a background

sad

[livid rapids]

it's from the hdri editor mod

https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_editor

[brittle token]

some random addon causing my gmod to tweak apparently

[weak ermine]

nuh, u just forgot to put ur glasses on

[brittle token]

and probably had a stroke

[weak ermine]

💔

[brittle token]

gshader library was the culprit

no idea why it was enabled

[subtle bison]

yippee no more light lag

[subtle bison]

will add thisi to the incompatible addons list

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison what was ur old pfp i forgor

[subtle bison]

https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/14916663?v=4

everything is networked now so dupes and saves work

[subtle bison]

i have fixed the temporal history of my cursed implementation of api lights so the swimming issue is gone (denoiser is off in the vid to show how stable they are)

@compact blaze i think you said voidplaces had it real bad?

ok well nvm that map is still cursed

[compact blaze]

yup

idk what it is

is there any explanation why games like alan wake 2 and indiana jones have more performant PT compared to other remix projects

at least thats how it feels like to me

[subtle bison]

specialized game implementations? idk

better vid to showcase the new temporal stability
hopefully im actually done this time working on the lights, i need to push the perf fork today

[subtle bison]

per-light volumetric influence controls 🤩

[weak ermine]

holly damn fuck

[subtle bison]

it also works for the sun

[willow fog]

10/10

[subtle bison]

smoke preset actually looks good for once when its not globally applied

[willow fog]

neat

Release WHEN?

[subtle bison]

hopefully today

[weak ermine]

HUH

[subtle bison]

it comes with a catch

its only on the perf fork atm

[weak ermine]

nuh idc

[subtle bison]

lol ok

[weak ermine]

on ur perf fork hashes are stable, yeah?

[subtle bison]

texture ones yeah, same as normal
mesh hashes are stable too but are different from the normal project

so no hl2rtx stuff

except for textures

[compact blaze]

i love this

[subtle bison]

added the option for api map lights as well

[compact blaze]

Where can I go to install and setup the perf fork?

[subtle bison]

its not out yet

im going to add it as a option for quick install in the launcher when its ready tho

[compact blaze]

Amazing

[subtle bison]

about an hour or two from release, in the meantime, loading indicators :3

[brittle token]

@subtle bison btw, would it be hard to remap the hashes so that the fork is compatible with hl2 rtx assets?

[subtle bison]

havent looked into it yet ngl

[brittle token]

oh yeah, glorious 60 fps-

AAA

blas trick worked, thanfully

weird, getting in the water lowers my fps. almost like an altitude meter lol

fps draining plants, but, these ones dont really look complex, like, at all

[subtle bison]

path tracing alpha cards be like

one of the most demanding things you can do to remix

we are so close chat

[brittle token]

screw tensor cores, we need alpha cores

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet i figure this will make users less confused

i would fix it, but i need to push the other launcher stuff asap

its here
https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXLauncher/releases/tag/avalonia_v1.1.0
https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf

you must create a new, seperate installation, do not upgrade a install that uses the main project

[subtle bison]

@weak ermine @willow fog
#1116089843479498782 message
:3

[willow fog]

Mmmmmm

[brittle token]

first time trying the new launcher, looks damn nice

[subtle bison]

btw entities like physics props, NPCs, etc, will cull by default
just tick this to fix it

its off by default because depending on the map, it can tank pef

[brittle token]

2560x1440@90~FPS on default settings, wow

this prop is way too big for it's own good

[subtle bison]

it may be a func breakable or something

[brittle token]

i once imported it into blender and it was all 4 arcs

[subtle bison]

btw the PVS check will fail sometimes and will cull stuff in front of you but its a rare occurrence from what i have seen

[brittle token]

any idea what's up with the sky here?

[subtle bison]

wdym

[brittle token]

it's gray, it should be blue

transition frame

[subtle bison]

guh

what map

[brittle token]

map : gm_excess_island at: 2228 x, -4432 y, 353 z

[subtle bison]

LMAO

[subtle bison]

is it only in that spot?

[brittle token]

also around the map apparently

[brittle token]

XD

[subtle bison]

hmm im not able to reproduce it, at least not yet

can you send the output of getpos of a spot where it breaks?

[brittle token]

maybe it's my settings?

[brittle token]

oks

[subtle bison]

not sure, im running the release build with the only addon being this map, only setting changed is xess and game res

[brittle token]

strange, cant make it happen again now, i think it got fixed when i re-toggled rt

[subtle bison]

nvidia moment maybe

this is a cool map tho

btw someone else pls try the api lights

if they dont crash for anyone im gonna be so happy

[brittle token]

wacky underwater meshes, not new though

[brittle token]

they seem to work quite well

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[weak ermine]

i can test only in 2 hours

💔

[brittle token]

white light

[subtle bison]

bro made 1 pixel

[brittle token]

🔥

wacky ahh column

VOLUMETRICS

wacky rooms

i like seeing this bar bounce back and forth

[polar anchor]

Definitely runs so much better but the sky moves with my camera, it is a bit jarring lol

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/garrys-mod-rtx-remixed-perf/wiki/Known-issues

most of the stuff you will run into is seen here

[keen rivet]

Huh they should download and install

That was working when I tested it

That was coded

[zealous narwhal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2622655285

This map was basically unplayable but the new performance fork makes this map actually playable at 30-40 FPS

[polar anchor]

Freecam randomly works again!!?! GOATED

Got 3 installs of gmod now lol and they are all on the same drive

[subtle bison]

guh it never worked for me, i assumed it was unfinished

[subtle bison]

guh what is this helldiver model

[polar anchor]

Tomboy Helldiver https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3573426166&searchtext=tomboy

there you go my friend

i forgot to check the bodygroups of it lol, gotta reselect it

[subtle bison]

guh

LMFAO

[polar anchor]

it has very good view hands

im gonna run it for a while lol

[brittle token]

everybody be dogpiling onto portal prelude rtx, but it legit runs quite well and looks amazing

[lament quartz]

Everything with the word "shader" in it is incompatible or works but is really broken

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

gmod rtx does not use shaders in any way

[brittle token]

she's tweaking

[subtle bison]

miku is balling

[viscid ocean]

guys where is the preformance forj

fork

[subtle bison]

#1116089843479498782 message

you need to use the new launcher to download it

[willow fog]

holy moly

https://tenor.com/view/erection-acquired-erection-text-gif-17662338

[lament quartz]

i mean shaders on the workshop

@subtle bison I have a bug where if I mount Half-Life 2 RTX Ravenholm, it is just white. Even though Half-Life 2 rtx demo is made for ravenholm also it can't find where my Portal RTX installation is, but I have Portal RTX installed correctly

[simple umbra]

absolute peak

[zealous narwhal]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3583696319&searchtext=

This map surprisingly loads but the static props take forever to be built, over 400 seconds. The framerate is so low it's unplayable, and I am amazed the game hasn't crashed.

[subtle bison]

real

[lapis delta]

WHAT THE FUCK?

[dusk wagon]

poolrooms water is looking good

[livid rapids]

was about to say what do you mean map decals don't work and then

💀

[dusk wagon]

wheres the addon

[subtle bison]

its built into the compat mod itself

if its not being replaced in that map then its doing a non-standard way of placing water

[lament quartz]

hey cr are mirrors auto replaced

[subtle bison]

no, only map that has them replaced is gm_construct_rtx

[lament quartz]

is it possible to have auto mirror

i got a idea

[subtle bison]

probably, just havent gotten around to doing it

[lament quartz]

replace func_mirror with func_rt_mirror

[weak ermine]

tf this bro talking about

[lament quartz]

what

[stark ether]

unc_mirror

[lament quartz]

func_mirror is a real thing in the game i think

[subtle bison]

unc_burrito_mirror

[weak ermine]

replace not existing thing to not existing thing

[weak ermine]

try to use google next time lol

[livid rapids]

30 fps 3060 1080p dlss-d performance 🙏

[weak ermine]

i heard this is cool thing

[livid rapids]

I love you legacy emissive

[subtle bison]

how does this compare to the normal project

[livid rapids]

dude

I ran it the other day

3 fps

[subtle bison]

😎

[subtle bison]

im not seeing those gains on the AMD side but glad to see nvidia getting a big boost

[lament quartz]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Func_reflective_glass

it does exist just not call func_mirror

[subtle bison]

are you fully gpu bound?

[weak ermine]

no way

[livid rapids]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

good lord

[livid rapids]

5800x

[subtle bison]

so the engine bottleneck is like completely gone

[lament quartz]

func_mirror Func_reflective_glass same thing

[livid rapids]

that's like saying func_door and func_door_rotating are the same

No it's not

[weak ermine]

func_mirror does not fucking exist hello

its like

0 = 1

[subtle bison]

i rarely see gmod maps that use the mirror

mostly in cinema maps for me

[weak ermine]

i know only

2 maps

its construct and cs_office_night

uh and nmrih map

[subtle bison]

can a nvidia user with the perf fork try
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3450250071

[livid rapids]

oh yeah

[subtle bison]

it runs pretty good for me on AMD but i wanna see how big the jump is