Garry's Mod

[meager oar]

yay

devs nowadays should put Xess in place of Fsr 3 if they want people with other GPUs to use upscaling

[subtle bison]

resolution slider 🔥

[subtle bison]

fr, at least until FSR 4 comes to vulkan

[meager oar]

There's a game I've been following and the devs decided to put Fsr 3 instead of Xess, dlss4 and fsr4 just cause fsr3 will work for all GPUs like bruh

[subtle bison]

wow .35 is surprisingly usable at 4K

[subtle bison]

which is funny because XeSS 2 works on everything but looks like FSR 4

[meager oar]

damn I wonder how good it looks on Intel GPUs since they use ai cores for Xess

[subtle bison]

guess vulpes will have to find a intel tester to try it with

since im using the sdk/plugin method for XeSS, it should automatically use the intel render path if a intel gpu is available

[winter radish]

We have two, one Arc A770 and one B580

[meager oar]

Btw that games name is broken arrow, gonna release in 5 days, the devs recently in steam Q/A said that

[modern quest]

XeSS does look worse on non Intel GPUs though

[subtle bison]

still leagues ahead of FSR 3.1

[modern quest]

for sure

buuut imo not quite FSR 4 level

like 95% of it though

[upbeat jewel]

I wonder if one day Intel plans to use iGPU to handle the scaling using XeSS, would take the overhead off the card

But then again that sounds expensive from a transfer standpoint

Seems like a neat idea though

[jade surge]

when I add something to "raytraced render target texture" in game setup (specifically the cameras in the og fnaf 1 map I havent tested anything else) the cameras work flawlessly, however my playermodel becomes visible to me, what causes that?

[winter radish]

@subtle bison should like, drop that XeSS code

[willow fog]

Don't do it cr. Ask for a key first.

Well. Jokes aside, @subtle bison is it worth trying to add features to remix yourself

[weak ermine]

raytraced render target texture

u can mark ur playermodel as playermodel in remix

[jade surge]

yeah, but its already hidden in the default confid prior to adding the texture, so why does it become visible again when I mark a texture as a render target texture?

[subtle bison]

yea its a known issue

i couldnt find a workaround

[jade surge]

dang

I also noticed by default the player texture seems to be ignored by the lack of player shadows, is there any way to auto assign player models to "player model texture" instead?

or do you hide the player model engine side?

[subtle bison]

no they have to be manually tagged in remix

[jade surge]

got it

[subtle bison]

when you enable pseudoplayer, reload the map if you dont see it

if im understanding the issue correcctly

[jade surge]

how do you enable or disable that?

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod

[jade surge]

oooooooooh I see

and after messing with the render target textures I already know most weapons arent properly selected as player model textures yet, maybe in a future update you could add base game playermodels and weapons into the pre made config, regardless I do hope you eventually find a fix for render target textures

[subtle bison]

my guess for render targets is that it shares the same buffer/draw call as some other objects including your player model, we would probably need to make engine changes to seperate RT cameras from other things

[jade surge]

ah

[subtle bison]

but yeah i should probably tag all base player models

also probably clean up the rtx.conf, i merged a bunch of rtx.conf's from other people so its kind've a mess with tagged textures

[jade surge]

otherwise props to NV RT on RT cameras does work really well

[subtle bison]

yea it looks nice

[jade surge]

especially since props in the rasterized camera view are full bright, though its nice the cams actually work properly now ray traced or not

[subtle bison]

i'd say the answer heavily depends on what you're trying to add

the tonemapper stuff was relatively easy since its just shaders mostly

[willow fog]

Right

[jade surge]

I wonder, so if I get to a certain position relative to the RT cam, my stuff vanishes again, I wonder if the model I'm seeing isnt mine so much as it is the model the camera sees, that ends up in the same spot since thats where the camera put it

and if you dont have the RT cam texture set at all, remix just ignores that stuff, hence why its only an issue when the RT cam is active

the RT cam is duplicating the playermodel

[subtle bison]

i think its trying to draw the thirdperson playermodel

[jade surge]

that could be it

so long as you can see other players with the same pm once all is said and done we should be all good, though idk how remix determines that kinda stuff

[subtle bison]

yea im not too sure

[jade surge]

guess thats another thing to put on the "to be tested" list

ok wait, so after marking the texture my ragdoll is invisible, so whatever is being used would effect other players if you are in multiplayer

that also does differ from what pseudoplayer shows when enabled

ok yeah, getting rid of what I had in the player model texture category and disabling the render target camera rt, pseudoplayermodel does differ from the ragdoll, so the RT camera is using the proper model

so even if all playermodels were properly marked we'd still have issues with render targets

only thing I can think of is some way of excluding the player from being rendered in RT cameras at all, but I doubt a mere mod could be made to do that

[subtle bison]

yea not easily

[jade surge]

NV added a super cool feature and we cant even take advantage of it

unless you wanna just play gmod in 3rd person

[winter radish]

Will work on integrating it, thanks

[jade surge]

also nestor works now, no invisible props

[subtle bison]

i forgot to add the xess sdk as a submodule, so clone the xess sdk to ./external before compiling

[winter radish]

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/releases/tag/98f9d03

😊

[winter radish]

I need to update my optimization documentation now, lmao

[winter radish]

wait, what's ./external?

[subtle bison]

is it me or has x64 gotten quite a bit faster recently? camp kairo used to run at like 40fps without RT with all of the culling patches

now its around the 120s

maybe rubat did some magic

[winter radish]

what's the command to clone it into external 😅

[subtle bison]

just cd into that directory and clone it there

[winter radish]

do I have to add the external folder to gitignore or something?

[subtle bison]

it should already be there, if not, you need to compile dxvk-remix first

[subtle bison]

also no

ok yea external isnt part of the repo

it's supposed to be in dxvk-remix/submodules but i didnt put it there

ill push a commit later to fix that

[faint sapphire]

Can't you just use the EyeRefract shader instead of the default HL2 eyes?

[subtle bison]

eyerefract gets returned as wireframe since its not supported in fixed function

the only working eye material is eyes_dx6 but its very buggy

i've tried doing vertexlitgeneric as well but it doesnt work

[faint sapphire]

Is this a Gmod specific issue or something? I remember having EyeRefract working in Portal RTX

[winter radish]

I think I got it

[subtle bison]

its more like portal rtx has engine changes to reimplement those materials in fixed function

all source 2013 games will have this issue except for the offical rtx releases

[winter radish]

NVIDIA keeps the best to themselves, lol

[subtle bison]

the only working branch of source with working eyes without modifications is source 2006

because they didnt deprecate eyes_dx6 at that point

[faint sapphire]

I remember getting it to work in base HL2 too but I think that was because it was using PortalRTX engine binaries alongside the default client server dlls for HL2

[subtle bison]

yes thats probably it

you can bring the portal rtx stdshader_dx6 and dx7 dlls to x32 gmod and it will fix those materials, but they dont animate and will remain completely static

#1116089843479498782 message

[faint sapphire]

Those aren't EyeRefract though

[subtle bison]

if the normal Eyes material is like that, then EyeRefract is probably worse

[faint sapphire]

I remember Eyes being like that but EyeRefract working just fine

[subtle bison]

you're free to try it to see if it works

[upbeat jewel]

this is such a weird argument. remix doesn't use portal binaries, it doesn't have these fixes, thats it

[subtle bison]

they have a modified source engine

[upbeat jewel]

same shit

[subtle bison]

thats the argument

[faint sapphire]

I don't have all of this installed, I'm just trying to give suggestions because I had this working before

Lua implementation seems unbelievably hacky

[subtle bison]

ill give it a try in a bit, i think l4d2 and tf2 models use EyeRefract

[faint sapphire]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

i tried reimplementing eyerefract in fixed function, i got stuff to render but it had the same issue as Eyes
#1116089843479498782 message

i used https://github.com/RaphaelIT7/obsolete-source-engine to compile my own stdshader_dx6 to use in x64

[upbeat jewel]

@subtle bison are these from the docs or did you just chose them (just curious tbh):

        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_ULTRA_PERFORMANCE: scaleFactor = 1.0f / 3.0f; break;   // 3.0x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_PERFORMANCE:       scaleFactor = 1.0f / 2.3f; break;   // 2.3x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_BALANCED:          scaleFactor = 1.0f / 2.0f; break;   // 2.0x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_QUALITY:           scaleFactor = 1.0f / 1.7f; break;   // 1.7x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_ULTRA_QUALITY:     scaleFactor = 1.0f / 1.5f; break;   // 1.5x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_ULTRA_QUALITY_PLUS: scaleFactor = 1.0f / 1.3f; break;  // 1.3x upscaling
        case XESS_QUALITY_SETTING_AA:                scaleFactor = 1.0f; break;          // 1.0x (native)
        default:                                      scaleFactor = 1.0f / 2.0f; break;   // Default to balanced

since the docs say performance should be 2x

[upbeat jewel]

ah okay, that makes more sense, thanks

[subtle bison]

oh i see lol, i used the older ver defaults

though it does scale exactly like dlss with what i have set for now

so i guess its fine

[upbeat jewel]

yep

its cool you can just feed it the m_primaryScreenSpaceMotionVector and it all works like magic

I thought this would be more involved (although you did alot of work)

[subtle bison]

substantially less than fsr3, but with 100x the payoff 😆

the xess2 docs are blessing

[upbeat jewel]

do you have a link to the FSR changes or did you push that?

[subtle bison]

nah i removed the branch

[upbeat jewel]

word

the way the API for XESS is structured sure looks alot nicer to work with

honestly could probably upstream it with a squash merge (and maybe some rebasing for the commit messages 😉)
LGTM lol

[subtle bison]

ill need to fix the submodule include and then it should be good to go for a PR

i guess another place for concern is how im going to include xess2 binaries

[winter radish]

I'm struggling to figure out what branch P2 RTX is using

Xoxor what is your organization

[subtle bison]

nvidia only includes theirs in CI or official releases

[upbeat jewel]

i'd probably leave that up to NV since they're gonna be opinionated on that one

might get a complaint about that being redundant 😛

        case MaterialDataType::Legacy:
          // Legacy material can't have spritesheet data.
          break;

im half joking

oh maybe nvidia added that, I cant see

[subtle bison]

this looks to be nv

wish i could see the last commit for a line on the GH website

but its in a file i dont normally touch (rtx_instance_manager)

[upbeat jewel]

I think you can, you use the blame feature?

[subtle bison]

it was mark lol

[upbeat jewel]

you;d goto the current file in HEAD, click the triple dot on the file in the right and click blame

hah

[steel lark]

lol

[subtle bison]

wow someone already broke it 😊

[winter radish]

Ok, yeah Xoxor might have to import the XeSS changes once Remix merges them
The Portal 2 branch of his runtime is not working for me at all

[subtle bison]

can u give me access to that repo

[winter radish]

did it

should be the branch game/p2 where the last updates were the 1.0.0 changes

[subtle bison]

bro got some radiation on his camera

[subtle bison]

all one commit now 😊
https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/tree/xess2-prod

ready for PR i think

[winter radish]

If NVIDIA rejects it, we riot

[subtle bison]

hopefully not, its a super clean implementation

[winter radish]

They never accepted my latest pr (it just changed low settings bounces from 2 to 1 because Medium also used 2 so there was no difference in performance between Low and Medium)

Like what’s the point of low settings if it does nothing

[subtle bison]

we can always use fork repos for features we want. If the PR gets rejected ill rename dxvk-remix-gmod to dxvk-remix-forge lol

then i can point users who want those features to it

but realistically i think they should be able to merge xess 2

holy crap

100th PR
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/pull/100

[lament quartz]

Tsr whes!!

[subtle bison]

wha

[lament quartz]

Idk

Tsr when I think

[winter radish]

I mean they’ve been open before about merging FSR so they should

[lament quartz]

Fsr sorry not tsr

im a little dreary today

[winter radish]

@subtle bison seems to hate the FSR SDK, lol

[subtle bison]

because its a nightmare compared to xess 2 🥲

ik what i said earlier, but i might give it another try later

[half viper]

Nestor works??
The procedural map

[jade surge]

ye before props were invisible, now they arent

[subtle bison]

pain

you werent kidding, its old

[half viper]

Can i see? 🥺

[winter radish]

Further than me, mine kept spitting an error about NRC submodule missing even though it was there when I checked

[jade surge]

I dont have gmod open atm

[half viper]

Awe

[subtle bison]

i think xoxor4d needs to rebase his changes

wait, what were his specific chhanges

i can just merge that instead lol

[half viper]

Btw CR i thought you didn't know C++

[subtle bison]

i dont 🤓 take a guess

[half viper]

Used an LLM?

[subtle bison]

yeah

[winter radish]

For P2?

[subtle bison]

ye

[half viper]

Damn i really wanna learn doing this shit myself (without an LLM)
But everytime i keep failing

[winter radish]

No idea but it has multiple commits back to like a year from what I can tell

[subtle bison]

im super ADHD so as i get older it gets harder and harder to learn stuff lol. LLMs have been a good enough stopgap for me since I can still get familiar with a codebase

[winter radish]

It started on the pair_mask_rs branch as well

[subtle bison]

so im still learning even while using a LLM, just not as effective as doing it myself

[subtle bison]

pain

[subtle bison]

it looks like he has a seperate p2 branch tho

last updated in march

also looks like all of his changes are at the top lol

[winter radish]

That’s the one that gives me NRC errors

[subtle bison]

also his dxvk-remix repo is public?
https://github.com/xoxor4d/dxvk-remix/tree/game/p2

[winter radish]

I’m not entirely sure if that’s all the changes only

[winter radish]

Ye

[subtle bison]

it is, there is only 7 changes

[winter radish]

Oh, then we could probably even update to the latest Remix without waiting on him at that point

[subtle bison]

ill try to cherry-pick his changes

🙂

time to see what happens 💣

ok its not opening, i assume this is because the bridge version is way too old

[winter radish]

[subtle bison]

i hate the bridge

i think xoxor made specific changes to that too

yep

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/bridge-remix/commit/ca11fe447e6f57bfd74c6e4ae0ef785927ff4e4a

maybe we just wait for him to rebase all of it on a newer remix version?

[winter radish]

We are missing the .exe part of the bridge, lol

[subtle bison]

i added back that stuff, but my compiled bridge doesnt have his specific changes

[winter radish]

I’ll contact him tomorrow about it

I sleep now

[subtle bison]

me too zzzz

[subtle bison]

LOL hl2rtx does use anchors

i can finally admire the hl2rtx assets at 4K 🤤

looks like grigori is a in-engine replacement

[sonic widget]

dayhole

[subtle bison]

🤤

[lapis delta]

implement regir gi. NOW (please 😭)

or maybe sharc cache

[compact blaze]

What’s regir gi?

[modern quest]

they meant restir GI

ah wait nvm

regir is correct

[lapis delta]

"RTXDI SDK includes a solution for world-space sampling called ReGIR, for Reservoir-based Grid Importance Resampling. ReGIR constructs a spatial structure with cells distributed around a given location, typically around the camera. There are two available structures: Grid, which is just a regular 3D grid; and Onion, which is a spherical space partitioning that fills the space with cells whose size gradually increases with distance from the center. The type of structure can be selected with the ReGIRContextParameters::Mode field when creating the RTXDI context"

regir is world-space, restir is screen-space sampling

[compact blaze]

Any demos showing the improvements of regir compared to restir

[upbeat jewel]

highly specific implementation of it, but: #offtopic-game-discussion message

general overview:
https://i3dsymposium.org/2021/posters/jukarainen2021_rendering_of_many_lights_with_regir_poster.pdf

it would take a shit ton of work to integrate correctly, and who knows the perf yet

(not disuading the idea)

[viscid ocean]

has this been released yet

[winter radish]

Maybe try mixing the new runtime with our old bridge shipped in P2?

[subtle bison]

^

you cant mix them

[winter radish]

Well all I know about his changes to bridge is “it fixes a little mismatch between the remixapi header and the dxvk api and adds two new functions to add / remove individual texture hashes via the api”

To quote

Might be good for me to report these things to AMD

[subtle bison]

idk it might not be worth it lol

i want to try finishing xenthios gpu skinning before i retry fsr3

[winter radish]

You think it would be worth it to back port to the 1.0.0 runtime P2 is based off?

[subtle bison]

nah, it would be better to refactor the p2 repo to be up to date with upstream

if im not working on the gpu skinning stuff and have time today, ill look into it

[lapis delta]

CR, please 🥺

[runic gale]

@viscid ocean yea ^ but not complete.

[subtle bison]

that looks complicated as hell to implement

[subtle bison]

also looks like it has license issues
https://github.com/NVIDIA-RTX/SHARC/issues/1

its probably better for nv do this themselves if they choose to

[wispy crest]

omg i think i did it

I took the hl2rtx materials and made a mod for gmod

[lament quartz]

Who's gonna tell

[wispy crest]

for weapons specifically

[subtle bison]

so is this for the hl2rtx viewmodels?

[wispy crest]

bc afaik, mounting hl2rtx does not replace weapon textures

[wispy crest]

yes

[subtle bison]

ye it wont because the meshes arent being replaced

[subtle bison]

which addon on the workshop?

[wispy crest]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3448395748

[subtle bison]

didnt this have a broken gravity gun?

at least in gmod rtx

[wispy crest]

yes it does

also the 357 doesnt show up

[subtle bison]

yea i think they compiled the models in a weird way

[wispy crest]

before

[subtle bison]

if you can port all of the materials, i can try re-doing the models and we can include it in gmod rtx

[wispy crest]

well, i found all the materials

they are in their own folders

Half-Life 2 RTX\rtx-remix\mods\hl2rtx\assets\ch3_routekanal\models

they are in here

I think the emissive are a bit weird

im just more proud that I could do this in the first place

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/mijonju-gif-18000754

Finally have a reason to play Gmod RTX again

[sonic widget]

https://tenor.com/view/no-power-power-outage-simpsons-darkness-hurricane-gif-12515858

[subtle bison]

ok so i guess xess doesnt work correctly on x32?

how does the bridge mess this up

[winter radish]

I mean it is translating

Oh wait, that means P2 is cooked

[subtle bison]

nah i can prob fix it

it looks like its not getting dispatched

what u see in the pic is the fallback if it doesnt init correctly

[winter radish]

[subtle bison]

i built the bridge, its still crashing for reasons i have no idea of

[subtle bison]

it does work, it looks like xess only inits if its the default on startup

whoops

so this would affect x64 as well

[wispy crest]

i think i did it

however, i do not think this was a perfect model port, the materials don't work 1:1

and the smg sight is just blue for some reason

[subtle bison]

@winter radish found the perfect steam deck preset for XeSS 😜

[winter radish]

Lmao

I might open a PR for Gmod RTX to add Steam Deck support one day

[subtle bison]

so just a custom preset?

[winter radish]

@ember grove we need your godly knowledge

[subtle bison]

pls refactor your dxvk-remix changes 🙂

[winter radish]

Ye, makes changes the the Pathtracing settings too to make it lighter on Deck

So pretty much a Potato preset

[subtle bison]

108p actually looks ok if you ignore the super pixelated edges

like the couch texture looks about like it does on native

[ember grove]

not gonna touch that until per portal volumetrics are fixed

[subtle bison]

guess ill backport xess then

no biggie, i think i figured out the merge conflicts anyway

[winter radish]

Goated fr

@subtle bison this was earlier today, lol

[subtle bison]

😦

[winter radish]

Door being FSR SDK

Fix it AMD

[subtle bison]

🥹

time to see if p2 dies this time

🤞

https://tenor.com/view/meme-bob-esponja-gif-2904459546447199840

need to fix the imgui and dispatch but that should be relatively easy

i love 32-bit remix games crashing my display driver ❤️

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

Gotta love custom forks

@willow fog I have your key btw, I’ll give it to you when I’m home

[willow fog]

Awesome. Thanks a ton

[subtle bison]

@winter radish
https://github.com/NightSightProductions/Portal-2-with-RTX-dxvk/tree/game/p2
https://github.com/NightSightProductions/Portal-2-with-RTX-dxvk/releases/tag/xess2

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-gif-27042841

[subtle bison]

[winter radish]

I’ll take a look at it and update the GitHub and Steam builds when I’m home

[winter radish]

@subtle bison Nitec recommended this for FSR

Also he liked your XeSS 2 PR

[subtle bison]

yea i was thinking about doing it that ways since that's what we basically did with xess 2 lol

[winter radish]

Even if the upscaling isn’t worth it, you would get the ability to decouple FSR FG and combine it with XeSS 2 Upscaling

[subtle bison]

ye that is what i wanted in the end

🤤

[winter radish]

Also keep those 20 and 30 users alive, lol

[subtle bison]

ok so it seems like driver crashes on the latest amd driver are far worse

it never recovers

i have to fully reboot

oml i need portal 2 x64 so bad

[winter radish]

Valve holding back fr

[wispy crest]

just make it urself

[winter radish]

No SDK = no 64bit

[wispy crest]

not with that attitude

[subtle bison]

man it would be super convenient if someone just accidentally "leaked" the portal 2 engine code

[willow fog]

Hasn't that happened before?

[subtle bison]

not for portal 2 i dont think

[wispy crest]

it was csgo

and tf2

[winter radish]

And Portal

1

[onyx ridge]

it would be super convenient if the gmod devs politely asked valve for it and implemented portals into garry's mod

(please portals would be so good it would be amazing not having to deal with janky lua based ones)

[winter radish]

@subtle bison what LLM do you use to help with coding? I’m currently using Claude

[subtle bison]

claude, gemini 2.5 pro

[modern quest]

you can use windsurf for a free week of both of those

works really well

more usage than either of the websites allow, and it works better for a codebase

[winter radish]

I get the models through GitHub copilot

Hooks directly into Visual Studio

[modern quest]

copilot is decent but is lacking compared to windsurf

[subtle bison]

got tired of having to reboot my game just to load sublayer changes, added support for reloading any loaded .usda file and also listed the loaded ones in imgui

(light is brighter ingame because i didnt set a radius which remix expects)

i can finally have a decently fast workflow with the blender toolkit

[winter radish]

I love RT so much, being able to change things in realtime is awesome

No waiting for lighting to bake

[willow fog]

Bro runs into minor inconvenience. Fixes it himself

[subtle bison]

the power of frustration

[winter radish]

Sees TAA: implements XeSS 2

[subtle bison]

sees toolkit is nv only: makes blender toolkit

[upbeat jewel]

as one does

[willow fog]

Sees (issue): implements (solution)

[subtle bison]

now works for empty/new files 🔥

also fixed the mod.usda load bug where remix sometimes doesnt load replacements

it now works every time

[upbeat jewel]

Committed? I wanna yoink that 🤤

Seems handy

[subtle bison]

yea ill try to push it to the gmod repo, its currently on a local version of xoxor4d's p2-rtx dxvk-remix repo, so i might have to refactor it so it works on newer remix versions

[upbeat jewel]

cool, even if you just link me to the commit if you push it, I can take care of refactoring it to work on the latest stuff on my end

if I do I'll make a branch on a fork with those changes

[subtle bison]

oh man was i wrong

chat did i cook too hard

[lament quartz]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

ngl implementing this is super painful and buggy

but yay it works

its still quite buggy lol

[subtle bison]

uhh what

stable hashes for viewmodels? doesnt look like bones work, nor are they being replaced with the hl2rtx assets

@upbeat jewel
https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/commit/cf216f9a53c8cace12740e78393b20fa0157ef4f
https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/commit/0e80de76bba1c329cc732c8cbe4f87368e33396a

[upbeat jewel]

Nice! thanks

[willow fog]

?

How

Okay if they're truly stable then you should be able to see motion blur on the model

[subtle bison]

ye there is

[subtle bison]

attempting to continue xenthios work on hw skinning

bones dont exist so it's horribly jank lol

[willow fog]

This alone is kinda huge because recoiling guns really need clean motion blur.

Can you show what it looks like? Maybe some mw weapons

[subtle bison]

trust me its worse than unstable hashes in its current state

[willow fog]

Ahhh

[subtle bison]

ill try, but they might force sw skinning

[willow fog]

Mmm

[subtle bison]

ok its not as bad as i thought

ok on second thought i dont notice any motion blur still

which is weird because the hashes are 100% stable

[quasi blaze]

is that still gmod?

[subtle bison]

nah portal 2 rtx

[quasi blaze]

but i do wonder if the portal 2 maps in gmod with RTX is fixed though

remember? you tested GP2-framework

[subtle bison]

ye but i thought they rendered fine, other than missing lights

which p2rtx also suffers from

ok so lights work now i guess lol

[quasi blaze]

although the map is broken without GP2 at default though

or what i mean (unplayable)

But @subtle bison the workshop version is outdated

for now

so focus on the github version

https://github.com/fahadturki653/GP2-SDK

[subtle bison]

nah its working, just not really noticable

[willow fog]

Okay okay

Now I wonder if it's possible to separate viewmodel motion blur from the world

Like how iw8 does it

[haughty goblet]

I wonder if joint bilateral updampling would work well with remix…
Unironically, it actually should avoid this issue.

[subtle bison]

what

[wispy crest]

nonsense sentence

[subtle bison]

oh bilateral up sampling

while it may help, it might also introduce blur

[onyx ridge]

at that resolution how noticeable will that be 😭

[haughty goblet]

Idk, works quite well for lighting data. It’s the norm for us shady devs.

And I mean doing it jointly to avoid over blurring important geom detail

Idk, throwing an idea in

[subtle bison]

i may look into it but I want to keep the xess 2 implementation as pure as possible

so it gets merged lol

[haughty goblet]

If you do want to look into it, papadanku has an implementation, just ping him for permission to use it ig.

[wispy crest]

so ive been cooking

I did the headcrabs too, but the difference isnt really noticable

[subtle bison]

did you apply the SSS maps?

[wispy crest]

tried, but they broken

like, it makes it all white

maybe i didnt do it right

however, I think because these models are taken from the workshop, and people are tweaking them a bit, that the materials will not work 1:1

I don't really have the knowledge for extracting and rigging these models, so i'll take what I can get

[subtle bison]

weird

i havent messed with SSS maps yet, so no idea whats going on there

[wispy crest]

This is really the first time ive used the remix toolkit, so I might have done it wrong

theres a lot of options for applying SSS

so it wasnt really clear on what I needed to do

[onyx ridge]

aw hell nah

splooged headcrabs

[viscid ocean]

@runic gale can i get your rtx.conf

mine is bugged out

[subtle bison]

this is from the compat mod

[wispy crest]

Im going to try doing some other models

maybe like, doors

[viscid ocean]

what

it wont let me install remix

[subtle bison]

stupid launcher, its trying to grab the wrong archive

ill have to delete that release

@winter radish i gotta pull the xess2-dev release, did u already download it

[viscid ocean]

its in all releases

i had an older one

that did the same thing

[subtle bison]

i just deleted it, restart the launcher

[subtle bison]

also for x64, it will force my gmod branch because it requires specific fixes

[winter radish]

What happened

[subtle bison]

do not install the nvidia version for x64, it will not work correctly

[winter radish]

[subtle bison]

the release itself is fine, the dumb gmod launcher is trying to grab it because its technically the latest

ill just upload the archive somewhere else

[winter radish]

I did download it alreadly, am I good?

[subtle bison]

ye

lets just wait for CI on the PR lol

[subtle bison]

looks like its working again

[runic gale]

Maybe forgot to apply the map fix

in gmod q menu ultites tab rtx setting

[wispy crest]

I have come to the conclusion that this is much harder than I thought

[subtle bison]

guh

[wispy crest]

doors are weird

and I can't find the textures that they correspond to

[steel lark]

how do i disable volumetric fog inside the rtx remix toolkit?

[willow fog]

You can't. Every capture has a snapshot of the conf at the time. You have to disable it in-game before taking a capture.

[steel lark]

zamn

alright

[steel lark]

that's like ass bruh (i have legacy fog remapping which breaks the toolkit completely)

[winter radish]

@lapis delta What is SHARC? just a better denoising solution?

Oh, I see, it's like NRC

[lapis delta]

yes, but it is more suitable for working with restir

like in cyberpunk

[hasty sonnet]

@subtle bison tf is that

[wispy crest]

that's a table

[hasty sonnet]

how do i get rid of it from the sky

[wispy crest]

no idea

[wispy crest]

never had that happen to me

[subtle bison]

hl2rtx assets being hl2rtx assets

[hasty sonnet]

how do we fix it

[wispy crest]

you will worship the giant skybox table

[hasty sonnet]

no

[wispy crest]

I will get you

[hasty sonnet]

no

[wispy crest]

the table will get you

[hasty sonnet]

no

[hasty sonnet]

how the fuck do i deal with this

@subtle bison

[weak ermine]

what wrong lol

[hasty sonnet]

its not loading the textures so i slapped it as an emissive and it worked

is it black magic? not really

[subtle bison]

i dont use nvidia so no idea

[hasty sonnet]

i have concieved an ingenious idea and its called using emissives

[wispy crest]

thats totally going to break lol

[hasty sonnet]

how would thee know

[wispy crest]

because how do you expect it to interact with the world correctly if the color is an emissive

where are you getting the textures

[hasty sonnet]

the game

idk who tf is that yakuza fella who got this shit working

[wispy crest]

what

[hasty sonnet]

i dont need sleep

i need answers

[wispy crest]

oh

well its obviously broken if you need to put the color mapping in the emissives to get it to work

[hasty sonnet]

perfection

[wispy crest]

lmao

[hasty sonnet]

you see

i only wanted to see the textures i didnt want it to have true RTX

but its a neat proof of concept

[wispy crest]

find hl2 rtx models in higher quality on hl2 workshop
can't figure out how to get it to replace weapons in gmod

im explode

[subtle bison]

you should be able to copy those straight from hl2's workshop folder to a addon folder

[wispy crest]

I did

it just created additional models

not replacing world or view

[subtle bison]

if you can send me the link of the hl2 addon I'll take a look when i can

[wispy crest]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3447181833

their texture quality shouldnt be relevant if im replacing them in the toolkit, right?

I wanted to attempt to use this hl2 workshop one because it actually has a properly rendered gravity gun world model

[subtle bison]

ye ur good

[wispy crest]

also, why are doors so hard to replace

they are broken up really weird in hl2 rtx

[winter radish]

why can't we all just hop on RTX Construct and have fun

[subtle bison]

cuz timezones most likely

[winter radish]

Whaaaa you’re telling me not everyone is EST?

[weak ermine]

spawn npc

in mp pseudoplayermodel dont work, so mp for me closed💔

[subtle bison]

do we know why it doesn't work?

i assume it's due to clientside stuff but in theory it should work fine as long the server that is hosting has the remixbinary addon

but i haven't tried mp with another rtx person myself

[weak ermine]

with manual installation and old rtx fixes in mp pseudoplayermodel works fine but now its don't work

i cant see my playermodel

💔

uh and if instead of new rtx fixes use old, pseudoplayermodel appears but light updater explodes

so for me mp closed💔

[subtle bison]

you still didnt say under what conditions does it make it broken on mp

is there errors, is the cvar missing, etc

[weak ermine]

its just don't appear

without any errors

i reboot server, reboot everything

changelevels

[subtle bison]

and this is with a server that is hosting the remixbinary addon?

[weak ermine]

on my server

[subtle bison]

guess im buying another gmod copy

[weak ermine]

nuh, just create lan server inside gmod

[subtle bison]

oh so it's just broken when the server is more than 2 players

so like even if i host it on my game it's broken?

[weak ermine]

yes

[subtle bison]

gotcha

[weak ermine]

light updaters, water fix, and other works fine

but pseudoplayermodel not💔

[subtle bison]

to clarify, we have never, ever done any work for mp so im surprised most stuff works

[meager oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYOK7DoVITE&t=252s wats tis 👀

optiscaler is used to get it wrking on rdn3

[subtle bison]

🤨

[winter radish]

It’s old news

Optiscaler server was talking about it for months

Performance is not good because it’s doing FP16 to FP8 emulation

[modern quest]

still interesting though

aaand possibly useful on the highest end ones

[wispy crest]

@subtle bison did you look into the hl2 addon

[subtle bison]

no im not home atm

[wispy crest]

oh sry my b

[hasty sonnet]

@subtle bison whats a good value for the chunks

like how tf do i fix this

[subtle bison]

chunks?

[hasty sonnet]

yes why is the game acting up like that i want it look normal

[subtle bison]

please tell me you're not on a super old version of the compat mod

[hasty sonnet]

tfym compatability mod

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2

[hasty sonnet]

im on the latest then prob

[subtle bison]

double check

[hasty sonnet]

i installed it just incas

[subtle bison]

your issue looks like the old custom world render stuff that got deprecated like 2 months ago

[hasty sonnet]

does installing that change the rtx.conf

[subtle bison]

yes, back it up

or dont if its cursed

[hasty sonnet]

i always back that shit up

i dont want to lose a bunch of progress

@subtle bison its not that also i kept the size at 8k

custom world rendering

tf do i do here

[subtle bison]

bro custom world render is dead 💀

[hasty sonnet]

makes sense

[subtle bison]

please update

[hasty sonnet]

i updated the fixes

now what binary?

[subtle bison]

nuke the ./garrysmod/addons/remixbinary folder

and do it again

how are u updating it btw, the launcher?

[hasty sonnet]

about page

[weak ermine]

tactical nuke incoming!

[hasty sonnet]

who do i choose

[subtle bison]

sambow23

the correct ones should be default

[hasty sonnet]

is this up to date

[subtle bison]

ur one version off but 1.0.12 should be fine

[hasty sonnet]

\

im gonna fight the gmod rtx gods

[meager oar]

u probably have a new conf that doesnt have all of these stuff tagged properly

[subtle bison]

nah their install fucked

[hasty sonnet]

ill reinstall it then

im backing my mods up

[subtle bison]

yea a clean install should fix everything, this map requires map fixes which is in the remix spawnmenu

[subtle bison]

shouldn't need to do that, workshop mods are separately stored in steam and not gmod

for a while

[hasty sonnet]

rtx mods

[subtle bison]

oh

[hasty sonnet]

i fix that by launching the game with rtx.io off then closing then turning it back on.

@subtle bison can i turn the rtx-remix > mods into a shortcut?

so i dont have to constantly back that up

[subtle bison]

ye you could symlink it

[subtle bison]

huh?

[hasty sonnet]

auto admin rtx launcher NOW!

@subtle bison symlink didnt work

oh you mean that

this doesnt work

[weak ermine]

u need symlink, not shortcut

symbolic link≠shortcut

[hasty sonnet]

i just did a symlink

i fried my brain for this but its worth it

[wispy crest]

holy mod folder

[hasty sonnet]

when bro cant understand transparency

[wispy crest]

what

[weak ermine]

when bro can't understand what that bro talking about

💔

[hasty sonnet]

i will never understand you people, for your braincells cannot match mine

[weak ermine]

alpha male sigma

quote

[compact blaze]

How did you get a transparent window?

[hasty sonnet]

https://github.com/Maplespe/ExplorerBlurMica

[compact blaze]

Thx

[subtle bison]

are we garrys mod rtx'ing yet chat

[wispy crest]

I attempted to make some pbr metropolice, but it didnt turn out very well

far too glossy

I didnt have any roughness maps because i'm not sure how to make them

[subtle bison]

you could look up some guides for blender or other free texturing software

[wispy crest]

perhaps if i'm using source models, with source textures, I should be using the source PBR tutorial

[subtle bison]

source's glossy maps dont really map to roughness maps

[wispy crest]

source models use a specular, which im not sure how to translate into pbr, I think I came to the conclusion that it is metallic map

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Creating_PBR_materials

[subtle bison]

ye but gmod doesn't use pbr, nor hl2

[wispy crest]

source can

[weak ermine]

i just draw roughtness map by myself

[subtle bison]

no, its completely optional

[wispy crest]

I'd like to stay away from using AI, and just use the textures given, as the textures I was using was already 4k

[subtle bison]

hl2 and gmod do not use it

[wispy crest]

well yeah

but remix does\

[subtle bison]

i thought you were trying to take fake pbr maps and apply them to remix

[wispy crest]

hm

I was attempting to remix nemez metropolice models

[subtle bison]

see if they have the original pbr maps

like before exporting to source

or use the hl alyx models

[wispy crest]

I don't think they use PBR, is the thing

they use d, n, and s

and sometimes emissive

but they way they've done emissive for the eyes is through vmt

[subtle bison]

i meant like before exporting to source, like ask them if they have the original maps

oops discord lag

[wispy crest]

im not sure if they were made out of source, yknow

like, they were made for gmod

idk, it was an experiment, and I learned some stuff along the way

but utlimately they came out far too glossy

[subtle bison]

ye but this author released the pbr maps for these models
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2035609495

that's what i was trying to get to

[wispy crest]

I know

nemez is russian I believe, there is a language barrier

[subtle bison]

use a AI translator? if you want to

if you wanna experiment more, try making the maps yourself

you might like it

[wispy crest]

I wouldn't know where to begin

[subtle bison]

lots of guides on youtube

all of them will get you in the right general direction

[wispy crest]

hm, maybe

[subtle bison]

also you can always ask in #asset-creation

[wispy crest]

this is fun though, I do like seeing the difference in game

[subtle bison]

lots of folks here with a lot of experience

[wispy crest]

perhaps I should continue doing models that have the pbr files already

[subtle bison]

whatever you're most comfortable with

[wispy crest]

I attempted to do the combine floor turret, but the model is not the same

[compact blaze]

if anyone ever ever finds someway to mount source content onto titanfall i'd be the happiest mf alive omfg

ik its off topic but needed to get that out my system

[subtle bison]

we love Titanfall

[compact blaze]

imagine the low quality hl2 maps in titanfall 2

[subtle bison]

so peak

i wish titanfall movement tech was ported to source

[willow fog]

Specular means how much of the total light reflects back at the camera as specular.
Roughness is well... How rough the reflection is. Spec CAN be translated to rough. It's just an approximation, but it helps getting started with the basic roughness map.

[compact blaze]

Gmod titanfall jetpack mod with apex inspired sliding mod

[compact blaze]

@subtle bison https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2287816257 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3217854362

here're the mods

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2813902415

add this, boom near tf2 experience

[subtle bison]

coicidentally i already have both movement addons

weapons look delicous 🤤

i kinda like the movement here more than titanfall a bit lol

once you have the right addons, its not jank at all

infinite momentum is peak

fixed the apex viewmodel sway

[weak ermine]

imagine ghostrunner movement style in gmod rtx. this fast and aggressive

[subtle bison]

published my AgX changes to a seperate branch, dunno if this one is good for a PR tho
https://github.com/sambow23/dxvk-remix-gmod/commit/3eadf47b1c99c4c2cf79cc626dedd358a4c53170

i think ill split up agx and aces into seperate files, then it will probably be fine for a PR

[compact blaze]

What are these sound effects

[subtle bison]

kitty0706 sound effects

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3456031847&searchtext=kitty0706

[lament quartz]

Rip kitty0706

[subtle bison]

ok nvm i cant PR this, there is no license

ok well neither does the original implementation which blender uses

fuck it ill just make a PR and see what nvidia does with it

[jade surge]

I noticed RR makes things darker

reference on the left RR on the right

using the normal denoiser rather than the reference mode, it also looks pretty normal

[subtle bison]

if you're on the latest dxvk, try the AgX tonemapper, it should make those strong highlights look better

[jade surge]

so is this just a training issue with RR?

[meager oar]

Only if they knew... 💀

[subtle bison]

poor fella

[wispy crest]

most people don't know the difference

[jade surge]

So much jumping back and fourth, not as bad as reddit threads tho, those are unreadable sometimes

[modern sparrow]

is this stable enough to try something like the dark matter reactor map now i swear every day i see a new issue pop up in the chat or something lol

[jade surge]

There will always be new issues, but it is more stable than ever

[subtle bison]

like the super big one?

i think ik what ur talking about but send the workshop link

[modern sparrow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3360227650

[subtle bison]

yea i tested this one before, it works, but the shader for the actual sphere in the thumbnail doesnt work

valve never made a fixed function fallback for it

[modern sparrow]

moment

hmm other map i guess to ask about is that hinamizawa map do we know if those what was it? vertex explosions were fixed

cause im pretty sure long ago you were saying it was a issue with map size or something maybe i dont fully remember

[subtle bison]

ill try it again, but i think the issue remains, though i havent really figured out the reason, been working on other stuff

[modern sparrow]

i can tell plus i still got my i5 anyways so id be bottlenecked still

[subtle bison]

even if its a recent i5 it will probably be fine, i think rubat has done lots of optimizations for x64 recently. lots of heavy maps been running much better recently

oh wow it works

it requires map fixes which tanks fps (engine limited), but visually its fine

[modern sparrow]

any fix for seeing those skybox areas?

[subtle bison]

not yet, we switched from custom render stuff to culling patches, which makes all areaportals visible

[modern sparrow]

custom render stuff huh is this better for FPS? than before i mean

[subtle bison]

no the culling patches run a lot worse than the custom render stuff. but the custom render addons had a lot of visual issues, not to mention causing lag in other places

so its a trade between visual quality or engine performance

[subtle bison]

to answer your question better, the custom render stuff was the solution to culling before we had proper engine patches

[modern sparrow]

hmm interesting

i will say im a omega slacker and still need to learn the rtx remix tool stuff but its kinda hard when i also now wanna learn to mod halo reach and learn how to mod halo wars and also play NZR in gmod. and make configs for the gamemode [cod zombies gamemode] and i bounce from videos to games back to videos got ADHD which never really allows me to truly focus on stuff.

[subtle bison]

same lol, my adhd has let me to many places

[earnest yew]

can you try the breaking bad map

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3013540185

[subtle bison]

wow this is a peak map

[earnest yew]

it really is

[subtle bison]

lmao even the pizza is there

i dont think the mapper placed lights inside

ye no its just baked lighting from the sun

other than that, map seems perfect

3d skybox is right above the map tho

if u break all of the window models, more light passes through

[sonic widget]

breaking bad if walter white never got with skylar

he lives in chicago and in charge of a big tech science company

[keen rivet]

hello gmod rtx thread

checking in

[hasty sonnet]

@subtle bison is there an NPC'less version of ravenholm?

[subtle bison]

why are you @ing me for this

you can remove all npcs on the map via console commands or the admin clean up menu

[subtle bison]

complete hw skinning patches when

[hasty sonnet]

admin cleanup menu doesnt work

and what console commands

[subtle bison]

ent_remove_all
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Ent_remove_all

[hasty sonnet]

arnoldgo

nvm its ass

[wispy crest]

lol

[keen rivet]

I completely forgot about those

My RE skills wasn't enough for them

[keen rivet]

ent_remove_all npc_*

[subtle bison]

i got x64 sorta working but just like culling patches, so much is different compared to x32

[kind kraken]

What changes have been made since the last time I messed about with it?

AgX is now a core part of our project so I'll have to add you to the credits lol

[wispy crest]

can anyone assist me on importing blender models into gmod

i want to do a proper CS2 weapon model pack, with bone merge

but I can't figure this shit out, and all the tutorials ive searched for doesnt help

[subtle bison]

nothing

only thing that changed was defaults to match aces better

but your existing settings should be unaffected

[lapis delta]

pizza

[jade surge]

I just updated my remix install, here is ACES

and AgX

[subtle bison]

looks like i need to update the defaults on the gmod branch

looks like its been overcooked

[jade surge]

yeah

reference from yesterday

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/pull/101

here is the new defaults

they are designed to match ACES'es look

but you can tweak everything to how you see fit

[jade surge]

this is what mine defaulted to, I'll try theirs

[subtle bison]

ye these are the old defaults that were not correct, i only fixed it in the PR

[jade surge]

thought it looked overblown still but then I realized I had it on punchy

tbh punchy might have been the main issue above

setting all that stuff here is what I have now

[subtle bison]

ye looks better

highlights clip nicely

[jade surge]

tiles on the floor look a bit overblown

[subtle bison]

ye agx wont fix that, but it will make it look more natural than ACES

the way remix uses tonemapping is akin to a camera

[willow fog]

agx supremacy talk in gmod chat rn?

[jade surge]

ye just checked, like that with the other tonemaps so thats just remix exposure

[willow fog]

[subtle bison]

[jade surge]

final image no menu, posting this cause I'm bouta move my camera

I hope an update to RR fixes some areas being far darker than they should

though with the new tonemap some areas are just far darker in general

[subtle bison]

you can adjust the agx gamma to workaround that

[jade surge]

doing that so I can see back here properly with RR

flattens out a lot of stuff

[subtle bison]

ye it wont solve everything

since there is physically less light from RR, the tonemapper wont be able to magically bring that shadow detail back

[jade surge]

technically the NRC fixes this issue, its a lot noiser but its a lot brighter to RR, issue is that the NRC has other issues with gmod

[subtle bison]

i think NRC on its own is just buggy

im on amd so I only got restir gi, not that im complaining

[jade surge]

restir samples better anyway

I know they could do temporal reuse in the NRC they just didnt set it up that way in remix, who knows maybe it'll come in the future tho, but first some stability would be nice

particles being emissive is cool

RT is at its best when an area can be lit exclusively with per pixel emissives

[subtle bison]

if you really wanna be wowed by emissives, try the hdri editor

[jade surge]

where isthat at?

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_editor

[jade surge]

got them hard shadows cast by GI, these are neat too, so many layers of depth to this stuff

at this point the only thing that isnt a nitpick with gmod for me is the fact 3D skyboxes dont work yet

and depending on the map that isnt a big deal

[subtle bison]

i mean they do work, just buggy on some maps

if you want to try them, do r_3dsky 1

the game will warn you about rendering issues tho

[jade surge]

ah I see

well mcdonalds is fine so I'll keep it on for now

[weak ermine]

already exist, no?

[wispy crest]

a lot of them do fake pbr shit, but i think i figured it out

[wispy crest]

I'd like to do this with some hla models, but a lot of them do fake pbr and I dont have the pure models and materials

[weak ermine]

huh

what about use materials from cs2 lol

[wispy crest]

thats what im going to do

[jade surge]

this one is cool

unless you use the transformer with RR

idk what it is, but specifically the transformer model causes it

[subtle bison]

ye its a known issue

i think the transformer D model fixes it? i dont remember the location of the toggle in the runtime tho

[jade surge]

that did not fix it

[subtle bison]

huh

[weak ermine]

i already create a pack of pbr guns, but for old models. there's a port of cs2 models with sweps but some models dont load and spam vertex error in console

[jade surge]

tho I find transformer model D less stable anyways

at least when I last properly tested it

[subtle bison]

i think the only other way to fix it is compress the HDRI precision more, but then it will look worse

remix doesnt officially support HDR emissives so thats why its like that sometimes, but idk why CNN or non-nvidia works fine

[jade surge]

what preset sets it back to the default?

[subtle bison]

re-open the editor

it will reset everything

[jade surge]

oh neat

[wispy crest]

I would love to do this for some HLA models, but I don't have HLA

[jade surge]

ooh parkinglot skybox

[wispy crest]

and also I cant figure out for the life of me to port models into source

[weak ermine]

tor....

[wispy crest]

yeah I was thinking

[subtle bison]

i should probably swap these out for proper enviornments lol

[jade surge]

lol

[wispy crest]

all hla addons on the gmod workshop use fake pbr and suchs

[jade surge]

I do like this tho, casts some nifty shadows

[weak ermine]

kinda cool. sky is burning

simulation destroying

[jade surge]

I do love that with HDRIs a single bright spot acts like a light, this is something I've been messing with in blender and it really makes me wish blender had ReSTIR since this stuff doesnt normally sample well

[wispy crest]

if someone would teach more, or at least help me figure out how to get source 2 models from blender, to be usable in gmod, then I can do all the material shit myself

I just can't figure it out

[jade surge]

dont mind the white line, thats my fault

[subtle bison]

ye this is why i love HDRI skydomes, you can instantly make realistic enviornmental lighting by using a photo

[jade surge]

ye, I even did a shader based one in blender since I cant apply sky textures straight to a sphere (even though I have the projection for it) and being able too control the sun in a room with no access to it was really cool, but it sampled like crap. hopefully blender gets ReSTIR, ik it was in the works but man cycles would be so much better with it

at least I can do gmod shenanigains with it

also props to RR for allowing these shadows to be this sharp, since there is no direct light to separate from indirect light for denoising

[subtle bison]

one thing i miss about being on NV lol

until AMD gets their equivalent

[wispy crest]

ive been troubleshooting rtx stuff all day, I know I should get on to doing what I set out to do, but im burnt out

[subtle bison]

it still looks decent without it, just doesnt hold up in motion

[subtle bison]

then take a break lol

being too ambitious will quickly burn you out

[wispy crest]

I do find assigning materials to be really fun

but blender kicked my ass

[jade surge]

and we'll have to see how good it is, I'm still iffy about some the things AMD got, but the 9000 series is the best step I've seen them take in everything except naming

(just call it the 9700 XT dangit)

[wispy crest]

I mean, I couldnt even figure out how to export a blender model to be used in gmod, that's not ambitious, I just don't know what im doing and its a bit frustrating

[subtle bison]

exporting models to source is known to be difficult

[wispy crest]

stupid QC files

[jade surge]

I tried, it sucks, I hate valves proprietary format and I hate they didnt drop it for source 2, RIP to the source 2 devs in chat

[wispy crest]

If I can nail down the steps to import source 2 models to blender, then export for use in source, I can just go ham and add a bunch of hla for remix

[subtle bison]

source 2 uses fbx so you can import them straight into blender

materials and everything

[wispy crest]

that is if valve did their shit correctly and added the necessary materials for pbr

[wispy crest]

yeah i got the importing down

[jade surge]

really? when I looked it up it was still like VPKs and crap

like source 1

[wispy crest]

it uses vmdl

[subtle bison]

i thought they used fbx? i remember at least being able to export the model to that format with 0 issues

even the bones carried over

[jade surge]

huh

[wispy crest]

im using Source 2 Viewer

https://i.imgur.com/4odaAHS.png

[jade surge]

I never properly tried source 2 stuff, the standard valve model format is just what I read it used in various spots online

[wispy crest]

VPKs are fine

its just like a rar

[jade surge]

I just remember trying to make gmod mods and wanting to fall out of my chair trying to get that stupid model format to work

[wispy crest]

i'll have to find a completely legal and legitimate way to procure half life alyx and do some digging there

since everyone wants to do psedo pbr on the workshop

[subtle bison]

just buy it? it goes on sale a lot

also an amazing game

[wispy crest]

ik

too lazy

to wait for sale

when I actually have some money and maybe vr i'll buy it

[jade surge]

oh CR, add an HDRI thats an overcast day

get them ambient light shadows on everything

[willow fog]

But.... that's how blender works..m

You get perfect shadows from bright light sources in your hdri

[jade surge]

thats just RT in general

it just samples poorly with blender

[willow fog]

I'm pretty sure it samples just fine

[jade surge]

the custom one I made didnt

then again it was quite hacky

[subtle bison]

there is a evening one, i think preset 4?

its about overcast

but yea i can add one in the future

[jade surge]

the evening one is a bit on the dimmer side

overcast can still be fairly bright

still cool tho

[willow fog]

Then your brightness values were setup wrong. Because I've never seen hdris causing issues

[jade surge]

no they were right, it was just sampling not well

[willow fog]

Strange

[jade surge]

again it was a very hacky setup

especially since it wasnt on the sky, it was a texture I mapped to a sphere but in a way that it acted like a skybox

and it wasnt even really one texture, I used I think a gradient on a color ramp to just have a circle I could make bigger and/or smaller, that I could also move the position of around

like it acted like a skybox, but it was fully custon in blender

I was trying to mimic blenders sky texture, since that only works on the sky and cant be used on a shere (despite the correct normals being possible)

tho I bought an asset and it had a custom HDRI (a proper one) and its sampling wasnt even close to what you'd get from a sunlight

[subtle bison]

i assume you need to make the sphere bigger? the one for gmod rtx is massive, and also hi-poly

[jade surge]

not the issue

if you use the right node you can project an equirectangular texture on a sphere as if it were a skybox, with that cyces samples it regardless of sphere size and poly count, if you are inside the sphere then its just a skybox, outside the sphere its like a window

[subtle bison]

rip

[jade surge]

it was the same thing we were doing there, and it had the same effect, it just didnt sample all that well

[willow fog]

I'm guessing you didn't import the image as hdri

When applying it to your sphere

Not to mention that using the world itself as hdri has some optimizations on it

[jade surge]

it was pre imported, I'll get some pics in a sec

ye I'll show some examples

so this is a proper setup, this HDRI is applied directly to the world and is being sampled as such, even at 1024x though its still on the noiser side so you'd need to go a fiar bit further if you wanted to use it in an animation and definitely not as well as remix is sampling them