Garry's Mod

[hasty sonnet]

god

im suprised your PC is still standing after running gmod rtx

gmod rtx is a unoptimized shit hole

its best to use DLSS at ultra performance

[subtle bison]

funnily enough its actually one of the more optimized rtx remix games 🤓

@twilit oriole #1116089843479498782 message

also disable any vram intensive addons like arc9 or any other weapons addons until you verify your game is stable

[twilit oriole]

ok

I try reinstall Gmod rtx

[weak ermine]

bro 0 fps gaming

[split geode]

Bitdefender deletes everything in this folder, too

[hasty sonnet]

i think you replied to the wrong thing

[subtle bison]

who is using an external AV in 2025

[split geode]

but I found a method to solve it.
before installing it in a folder (a completely new folder created by you) you need to add it to the antivirus auto-scan exemption
and then install gmodrtx.

[half viper]

"U-u-um it doesnt run on my mid range 7 years old gpu that i bought for hundreds of dollars at that time, so must be unoptimized!!!!!" ass statement

[subtle bison]

even with that, there are plenty of maps where you will be engine bottlenecked and cannot be bruteforced unless you have a baller ass cpu

i think a 2060 can probably run gmod rtx fine as long as they stick to CNN and DLSS Perf or below

[hasty sonnet]

im using a fucking 4060Ti

[half viper]

Thats a low end gpu with performance equivalent to a 3 years old gpu, whats your point?

Oh wait

Its 5 years old

[wispy crest]

my 4070S has no problem running it

[hasty sonnet]

nvm before ver 6.5 it was hard for me to run without ultra perf

[half viper]

Duh its a good GPU

[wispy crest]

my cpu isnt bad either

glad i got it before all the economic stuff happened

[lapis delta]

i love my 4070, the best gpu in my life

[lapis delta]

GAH DAM

[subtle bison]

airpod shawddy

[meager oar]

is that Demoman

[distant crystal]

Nah that's Gucci Mane 🤣

[earnest yew]

LMAOOO

[keen rivet]

:(

[subtle bison]

maybe we symlink a different version of a module with the model hooks enabled when someone mounts hl2rtx?

idfk

if you got any ideas shoot

i really dont want the hooks disabled

[steel lark]

wait who had gmod rtx running on linux?

i can't get it to run

how do i fix this error?

[modern quest]

make sure Steam is open

[steel lark]

it is

i used steam to launch it 😭

i'm using proton hotfix btw

and proton 9.0-4 seems to just not work at all

maybe it's cause i don't have any launch parameters

but idk where to get the new ones

[subtle bison]

me, did you open the game normally before installing remix and the compat mod?

[steel lark]

yeah it wasn't 100% clean install

should i redo it?

[subtle bison]

idk maybe, but how did you install and run everything on proton?

[steel lark]

manually 😬

[subtle bison]

yea that what i did

[steel lark]

the launcher refuses to work

[subtle bison]

i didnt even bother trying it lol

[steel lark]

please make a barebones launcher for linux

[subtle bison]

i think getting the existing one working would be fine

[steel lark]

but it needs windows .net or smth

[subtle bison]

idk about how that would be with proton, but i imagine doing it all via a normal wine prefix should work

[steel lark]

yeah tried wine too

same error

even installing both .net 8 and 9

[subtle bison]

weird

maybe ill give it a shot in a bit

[steel lark]

so do i reinstall gmod?

[subtle bison]

ye

[steel lark]

okey

[subtle bison]

but try installing 0.6.0 and using steam launch params since it has everything in one archive

then update it to 0.6.7 manually

wait nvm that would prob cause other issues

[steel lark]

also is the 64 bit version worse or better than the 32bit one now? i lost track lmao

[subtle bison]

x32 is better overall

x64 is faster in a few areas but im done recommending it lol

[earnest yew]

Balls

[steel lark]

alright

[subtle bison]

rubat fixed a lot of shit in x32 since the last time i used it so im perfectly happy with it

[steel lark]

uhh also how do i make steam not super unresponsive and shitty

[subtle bison]

like native linux steam?

i never had issues

[steel lark]

it sucks for me for some reason

what distro do you have

?

[subtle bison]

nixos on my main pc, arch on my bc250 i do gmod testing with

but steam works fine on both

[steel lark]

i have ubuntu

i searched and some people said that it works worse on it

[subtle bison]

i mean it really shouldnt matter, steam uses its own libs

i hope you're using the proprietary nvidia drivers

[steel lark]

wdym?

[subtle bison]

open Software Sources, it should look something like this

or i ig software and updates

i dont remember when they renamed it

send a screenshot when u find it

[steel lark]

it's searching forever?

[subtle bison]

it takes a bit

[subtle bison]

ye ur using proprietary drivers good

just making sure

[subtle bison]

why is your video encoder dead

lmao

[steel lark]

everytime i open the properties menu i clicked on remove non-steam thing

[steel lark]

wdym

it's webm 💀

[subtle bison]

nvm its gone now, i guess discord can just randomly corrupt webm's in realtime

[steel lark]

it's the native screen recorder from ubuntu

pretty cool

webms kinda sucks but i love that i don't need to compress it everytime i need to send it on discord

[subtle bison]

very weird, i assume you tried restarting steam?

[steel lark]

yeah it's happening ever since i moved to linux

so 3 weeks lol

[subtle bison]

could be a steam bug itself

i've never seen that before tho

[steel lark]

maybe i can try using a steam beta

[subtle bison]

ye

[steel lark]

i also enabled gpu accelaration and it made some weird vertical artifacts on some popups lol

so i disabled it

hum actually seems to be a bit better now

not very much tho still definetly happening

@subtle bison it worked but i don't know the updated launch parameters

[subtle bison]

uhh one sec, i dont think its much

-console -dxlevel 90 +mat_disable_d3d9ex 1 -windowed -noborder

yep that's it

[steel lark]

is console required?

[subtle bison]

not really

[steel lark]

ok

bruh

[subtle bison]

a fellow samuel 🤝

[steel lark]

no way lmao

[subtle bison]

way

😎

[subtle bison]

idk all i see here is that the bridge crashed

for what reason i got no idea

u can try x64 if u dont wanna fuck with the bridge

[steel lark]

32 bit isn't working

the alt-x menu isn't showing and the game is rasterized

ok ig nevermind it worked now thx

ok ig nevermind it crashed now

huh

[thorny crag]

Wait which patches do we install now?

Blueamulet's or cr's

[subtle bison]

x32, blueamulet, x64, cr

[hasty sonnet]

and so thats how i started cooking eggs on my Kraken AIO cooler

[subtle bison]

starting to wonder if the model hooks and remix api lights share the same instability issue

because look what fucking works again

i quite literally copied my old commits from jan 17 and transplanted them into the newer codebase and its as if they never broke

networking and all fucking works

im so pissed

@keen rivet do you think its some kind of windows specific issue for the model hooks and api light stuff crashing the game? clearly this is something incredibly difficult to find the cause for

[keen rivet]

I'm on windows 11

[subtle bison]

same

[hasty sonnet]

same

[quasi blaze]

that's what makes it so annoying

it's updates that break it!

also

same

[hasty sonnet]

thats why i spent my time editing that video

[subtle bison]

atmospheric house lit with remix api lights 😭

i missed them so much

[hasty sonnet]

how

i want it

hand it over

before its joever for you

[subtle bison]

nah im not reincluding them, they're gonna have the same instability issues as the model hooks

i removed them because everyone complained they were unstable in the first place

now i know its something really fucky in the OS envirornment, or in the way we do hooks

[hasty sonnet]

i need it

[subtle bison]

i will happily add them back if we figure out what causes the crashing issues

[hasty sonnet]

cant you run a debug console that monitors remix dxvk and everything?

[subtle bison]

last time i debugged rtx lights, they were crashing in remix and/or the engine, but its was never consistent

but the exact same behavior is happening in the model hooks

except i cant reproduce a crash

and now the rtx lights are in the same boat again 😭

[subtle bison]

holy fucking shit

i just hit peak

so fuckiing peak

I REALLY WANT TO FIX THE MODULE CRASHES NOW

I HAVE FUCKING REPLACED MAP LIGHTS WITH REMIX API LIGHTS

IT EVEN FUCKING WORKS FOR HDR-ONLY MAPS

no way we are about to render 1K lights at one time

say sike right now

no fuckign WAY

[half viper]

@subtle bison is it possible to choose which lights to keep and which lights not to recreate?

like

uhhh

[subtle bison]

?

[half viper]

no like

there are some fake sphere lights put by the mapper, we dont need them in the ray traced renderer, so can we have a tool to delete those lights and save these configurations per map?

[subtle bison]

yea that should be possible

but this isnt coming into a release anytime soon until we figure out what causes crashes with the binary module

its stable for me but its definitely not for most people

[thorny crag]

what map is this?

are remix api lights more performant or something or are they just better looking

[thorny crag]

what win 11 version are you rocking btw, just curious

[willow fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269948006615089339/1358215229770825928/KEinEjCfcCcZ2aYf.mp4?ex=67f30801&is=67f1b681&hm=e1a51028da5eedb98abe2c957dc04817c8346cb9d29da38d121a6e5eb2e3eb6f&

[half viper]

Do you think its painful?

[willow fog]

No, it's quick and easy

Just surprising

[hasty sonnet]

make it 2K

4K isnt noticable

[subtle bison]

yea its extremely cheap to render lights in remix, you can do thousands. also you dont have to worry about culling

[subtle bison]

windows 11 24h2 iot

[thorny crag]

Hmm

Isnt that like part of the ltsc stream

[subtle bison]

yep

i also have windows 11 23h2 on another drive

[thorny crag]

Windows versions shouldnt actually matter that much with crashing do they?

Im also using 24h2 but it isnt the ltsc stream

[subtle bison]

probably not but i got no idea what is actually causing the binary module crashes

[thorny crag]

Well to be fair the ltsc stream should be more stable, no?

[subtle bison]

i wasnt even able to reproduce it on a linux system

[subtle bison]

idk maybe

maybe try 24h2 ltsc on a different drive and see if the game is stable?

[thorny crag]

Oh hell nah man im on a laptop

Either way i dont have unused drives laying around atm

[steel lark]

hell yeah

gmod rtx on linux worksss!

i can't open the developer menu tho?

[subtle bison]

the gmod one?

[steel lark]

oops i was using proton 9.0-4

using proton experimental fixed it

crunchy

[subtle bison]

mmm source engine vertex explosions 🤤

[subtle bison]

save/load support ☺️

[willow fog]

Save/load what?

[subtle bison]

remix api lights

[willow fog]

API lights are back?

[subtle bison]

sort of? they share the same issue with model hooks crashing the game for a lot of people

[steel lark]

they're so back

[subtle bison]

so i cant add them back into a release unfortunately

people will complain about stability issues

even though they work for me 💀

maybe i can make some sort of staging release with them?

just acknowledge your game wont be stable for whatever reason

[steel lark]

me and my brother playing gmod rtx lol

[subtle bison]

how does mp work p2p lol

does the niknaks stuff work?

[steel lark]

idk how do i check?

[subtle bison]

did you see any errors from remixbinary loading in?

[steel lark]

yeah

[subtle bison]

click the problems button in the menu and take a screenshot of the lua error

[earnest yew]

am i slow

dosent remix just replace the ingame lights with remix lights

[subtle bison]

im spawning them in the same place as engine lights using data from the map bsp

so the engine isnt aware of them at all other than the entity itself that creates them

so to source they're just a clientside entity

[subtle bison]

ye but those still rely on the engine lights to exist in the first place

so culling or anything preventing them from rendering will break it, my method bypasses all of this

[earnest yew]

sigma

[subtle bison]

here is a longer overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w22J4aow7wY

[half viper]

id love to play with my brothers if they didnt want to kill me

[brittle token]

for some reason some player just use gmod as their outlet for their murderous tendencies (?

[subtle bison]

guh

[weak ermine]

how

[brittle token]

and then CR said: Let there be Remix API Lights!

and he raytraced everywhere

[steel lark]

My favorite part in gmodrtx is when cr appeared and rtxed remixed everywhere

[brittle token]

frfr

[earnest yew]

cr voice

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-tank-nicki-minaj-tanked-mariah-carey-tanked-khia-ice-spice-tanked-gif-3553741162841780851

[jade edge]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-thats-new-never-seen-that-interesting-new-hmm-gif-14627274

hearing CR's voice is unusual

[earnest yew]

thats no cat!

[jade edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tiggle-fat-fatcat-chonk-gif-20269238

[subtle bison]

chopped and slopped?

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-gif-22037253

[lament quartz]

Wow I need this

Altho it's not perfect it works

[onyx ridge]

what are model hooks again

[subtle bison]

fixes unstable hashes for a lot of stuff in gmod

so hl2rtx asset replacements work

[keen rivet]

Glad to see multiplayer works it's always been at the back of my mind in consideration while making anything for this

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet i've been thinking, the same issue that happens with model fixes happens with api lights, they both use engine hooks. Maybe we need to investigate on how we do hooks and if there is any way to make them more stable?

its the only common denominator i can come up with

[keen rivet]

well not all hooks are crashy are they

thats the thing isnt it

[subtle bison]

just the ones that cause stability issues

[keen rivet]

the only things that might causes crashes with hooks if they're not shutdown properly or they're recreated while they exist already

[subtle bison]

most of these crashes seem to be happening ingame where neither of those situations are happening

like the mw base stuff, undoing props with z, spawning remix api lights

i think there may have been another situation or two but i cant remember all of the reported issues atm

i lack the knowledge to immediately know what the specific cause is, but it feels like a runtime thing? idk if that's the right wording

guh i wish my game would crash 😭

maybe it could even be compiler related? whatever that can explain the inconsistency between users

anyway yap over, ill mess with it tomorrow and hopefully come up with something

[wind yoke]

Thank you for all your effort and time. 🦕

[meager oar]

😂 at the end the bugs always win

[compact blaze]

i wanna ask people who work with these sorta cod textures is this a sorta normal map or a general MAS map texture

[willow fog]

METALLIC
AO
SPECULAR

I told you that before

[compact blaze]

Yes I just realized after taking a shower a camo having a normal map would make no sense since the gun would still be using its own normal map

And that’s why I couldn’t find any proper normal map for the gold camo

Pro tip y’all take a shower it’ll make you less dumb

[keen rivet]

It should be me building bugs and CR destroying them

[subtle bison]

[weak ermine]

why he's blue

who chokes him

[subtle bison]

lol it's colored that way for nixos

i got a whole bunch of them

[subtle bison]

chat i dont get it anymore

can someone give me a pc that has crashing issues with the binary module 🤓

[thorny crag]

Can you release a version with the rtx lights?

Who knows it might be stable 😏

[subtle bison]

they were released before way back in january, i dont think it worked for anyone 💀
#1116089843479498782 message
#1116089843479498782 message
#1116089843479498782 message

[thorny crag]

Lmao i thought the code was changed

So it's still the same version huh

[subtle bison]

yep, still got no idea why they're stable for me now

[willow fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/701111497782329364/1359086039330721922/9503C172-1A77-4A3F-B224-66592A2A91B2.mov?ex=67f63302&is=67f4e182&hm=191a7acf3268047b8b94659148d9c27492ad3532ddc146d3561744096eb213be&

[hasty sonnet]

roger

when will i do it?

never

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet i've organized and moved stuff around the module.cpp a fair bit, lmk if you want me to change anything

i tried to move most c++ lua push functions inside their own files so module.cpp is less cluttered

im also probably going to push a release with module hooks re-enabled and add back rtx lights

but ill make a seperate archive with both disabled for those who crash

[subtle bison]

gonna start working on adding more light types so remix api lights can fully replace source engine map lights 🤓

[brittle token]

is it normal that the exposure suddently changes when looking in some directions?

kinda hard to see, it's more visible in gameplay

[subtle bison]

i think hl2rtx sets some weird exposure compensation settings

turn this off

[brittle token]

it still happens, it's a bit strange

no way it's clipping right?

culling*

[distant crystal]

Something along the lines of eye adaptation? I've never messed with the setting myself

[brittle token]

imma check

[distant crystal]

Heard it mentioned a bunch

I'm not sure where it is, most of these issues got fixed by NRC for me

[brittle token]

it happens even with eye adaptation disabled

currently using nrc

it actually became more noticeable

[subtle bison]

it could be NRC stuff but it shouldnt be culling unless that grate on the top left is a model

[compact blaze]

Maybe it’s NRC being nrc, unironically my opps

[brittle token]

the flickering happens even when using restir

weird stuff

[subtle bison]

is this x32?

[brittle token]

yep

i see it happen inside this room on gm_realpark_final

i also notice it elsewhere, but for testing purposes

[subtle bison]

its not culling if its x32

[brittle token]

yeah, it might be something to do with exposure, but im not really sure

[subtle bison]

it could also be some kind of screenspace issue with the denoiser/rays

NRC usually helps with that tho

[brittle token]

and also, is tehre any way to make somewhat lowlight places less blobby? it's like noise, but in blobs

[subtle bison]

ye its just the usual denoiser issues

[brittle token]

oh, alright 👍

[subtle bison]

i've implemented all remix api light types 🔥

only distant and sphere seems to properly activate atm but progress 😎

[brittle token]

oh yeah B)

[subtle bison]

ok nvm i guess they do all work, remix sees them, im probably using some invalid values on the lua side which is why i dont see anything

guh

very fuckywucky

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/cherrysticker-gif-19173161

thy is done

fully featured api lights

now to polish this shit

[lament quartz]

Ok but can it juju on that beat

Can it?

[subtle bison]

how do i make da light juju

on dat beat

[lament quartz]

Automated rgb fade /j

[subtle bison]

i had a auto rgb thing a while back but i think i forgor to add it to this refactored ver

speeeen

iirc the lua errors is just a rate limit since its updating faster than the fixed rate i gave it

cuz speed

adjustable sun

[lament quartz]

Yipee

[lapis delta]

disable transformer model d

[earnest yew]

ur name sucks

cause d3d9c sucks

9c sucks

butt

[lament quartz]

[earnest yew]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1207494544309100586/1264828051057803326/mWbbmJSciB0-4lm--ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[compact blaze]

a question relating to gameutil @willow fog @onyx ridge, are yall on windows 10 or 11?

[weak ermine]

omg when release

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/its-out-when-its-ready-gif-6182608754390432852

[weak ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

are u done? when release

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/its-out-when-its-ready-gif-6182608754390432852

[weak ermine]

oh dang it

are u done? when release

[compact blaze]

It’s ready to let it out 🔥 🔥

[subtle bison]

i absolutely cannot wait to release this, only to see it crash for everyone for all the same reasons 😊 ☺️

[weak ermine]

hell yeah

let's do it

cmon baby

i wanna taste this crash

[subtle bison]

like i said a trillion times before, i did nothing to make them stable so if it dont work for you, uhh nuke your windows. cuz it runs on a fuckin ps5 apu running linux.

so im gonna pin it on skill issue or some dumb shit

[earnest yew]

just redo everything from the ground up

[subtle bison]

i think the same issues would happen. I already re-did rtxlights like 3 times before removing them. they all crashed in the same way, from a engine hook

i dont know enough with C++ about what makes a hook unstable, but I've already spent enough time trying to figure it out, im fucking done lol

[half viper]

Day night system when

[willow fog]

tomorrow

[half viper]

[willow fog]

@subtle bison deadline is up. Get to work lil bro

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[willow fog]

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

[winter radish]

I ain't reading all that

https://tenor.com/view/feel-like-a-sir-feel-like-a-lord-feel-like-sir-gif-22251304

[weak ermine]

lol

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[keen rivet]

pretty sure it ran on my windows 11 i9 13900k just fine

[subtle bison]

light2rtx now supports the additional remix api light types 😍

atmospheric house now has its lighting back 🌞

[earnest yew]

3 fps

[subtle bison]

DLSS quality with transformers just for yall

my 2080 aint built for this

[earnest yew]

ill send you a 1060ti

if it makes you feel any better

[subtle bison]

the lights?

[keen rivet]

ye

[subtle bison]

cool

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1139352699180163112/1359325250755629227/attachment.gif

this hud addon seems to work but it does something fucky with remix lol
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459525275

[brittle token]

@subtle bison is there any way to try out the light2rtx thingy?

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/its-out-when-its-ready-gif-6182608754390432852

[lament quartz]

See it's good but I still think my rendition is better

[subtle bison]

ye manually placed lights are always gonna look better lol

[thorny crag]

Yoo send the mod file

[brittle token]

looks beautiful, but holy fuck my FPS

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3282013166&searchtext=

[hasty sonnet]

addspotlight

[weak ermine]

are u done? when release

[hasty sonnet]

let him cook

[hasty sonnet]

hand it over

[subtle bison]

#1116089843479498782 message

[hasty sonnet]

i added a bunch of emissives

[lament quartz]

Wdym

[lament quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-gif-5314502384487986587

[subtle bison]

😊

[weak ermine]

?

[quiet scroll]

I should probably update gmod32bit, I haven't touched it in awhile as 64 was so nice to have lol, was the giga huge rtx.conf for 64bit or 32bit?

[subtle bison]

both, they share the same hashes

[quiet scroll]

ohhh right duhh lol

[subtle bison]

its just giga cuz i combined a bunch of people's rtx.confs

im still cleaning out incorrectly tagged textures almost 2 weeks later lmao

hopefully next major release will have it all gone

[keen rivet]

Yeah I was doing that too lol

Reminder to use terrain tag instead of decal tag for terrain now you can easily swap between the terrain modes

[subtle bison]

whoops

🤭

definitely have not been marking as decal instead

do they even look visually different?

north yankton 🤤

[peak rover]

oh my fps

has anyone used 5090 on gmod rtx yet

[subtle bison]

im getting like 40fps on this map with DLSS quality, its well optimized

[peak rover]

40 fps and well optimized in trhe same setence

ig its fair

cuz gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

cuz gmod rtx path tracing

[peak rover]

ow

[subtle bison]

fps with RT off lol

the map is entirely model based

so no engine bottlenecks at all

[peak rover]

holy moly

what gpu

[subtle bison]

rtx 2080

[peak rover]

not bad

[subtle bison]

whole map is a vibe with RT

[peak rover]

would you get a 6090

[subtle bison]

i bought a RX 9070 like a week ago, still waiting for it to ship

[peak rover]

oo

is it good for rt

[subtle bison]

ye as long as FSR3 is injected

[peak rover]

lol

[winter radish]

Working on that FSR 4

[earnest yew]

is this not

a real photo

[pulsar flicker]

install?

[subtle bison]

wha

[modern quest]

install?

[subtle bison]

oh no the infection has spread to kim

i need to run

[modern quest]

install?

INSTALL?!

INSTALL?!

INSTALL?!

[earnest yew]

it's effoc

[subtle bison]

[earnest yew]

and it's funny

[meager oar]

dayum map name?

[subtle bison]

i think its just "North Yankton" on workshop

its from gta5

[earnest yew]

it's just the mesh of the map?

[subtle bison]

ye the whole map is a bunch of meshes

[earnest yew]

swag

[hasty sonnet]

@subtle bison

remix terrain system after abuse

[willow fog]

Not nice

[compact blaze]

He’s on an rtx 2080

On dlss transformer

Reminder this is a 7 year old card I feels that’s pretty good for a first gen rt card intended for simple RT stuff like reflections and shadows

[keen rivet]

if the terrain mode is set to terrain as decals then no (unless you use over modulate 4x or whatever its called i forgot)

it should be set to that because its better than terrain baker

[keen rivet]

amd traitor

[smoky otter]

Isn't the path tracing performance on that awful lol

Basic ray tracing is not that heavy so it won't struggle with that

[compact blaze]

on linux properly configured the performance is great

like look at vulpes' performance on an rx 7600

granted its on TAA ultra performance

but still

a decent upgrade compared to 2080

[subtle bison]

I've seen people get great performance with it on linux

[livid rapids]

are those emissive textures ootb?

Also when tf did someone port north yankton

[subtle bison]

long time ago

[subtle bison]

sort of? they are in rasterized, but i had to mark them as worlspace ui in remix

[compact blaze]

@livid rapids good news i finally got gameimageutil working

turns out the lib files also have to be in the same folder as the exe

for some reason

bo6 gold

[winter radish]

cough this is Windows

The worse drivers

(155fps on unoptimized drivers is insane)

[compact blaze]

Omg what

[winter radish]

The power of Xoxor

Don’t worry guys I won’t start a Xoxor cult (yet)

[compact blaze]

Have u tried fully optimizing a Linux install for remix yet?

[distant crystal]

I remember hearing the toolkit can be iffy with Linux, is this still the case?

[winter radish]

Wdym

[compact blaze]

So we can see the performance on ur amd card?

[winter radish]

I haven’t installed Linux on my Desktop yet

[turbid barn]

founded that on YT

i've experienced a bit more % drop on Remix on my 4060

[winter radish]

Sounds right

[turbid barn]

but that makes sense

[compact blaze]

2kliksphillip video?

[winter radish]

I love me some Cyberfunk and Alan Woke

[subtle bison]

its like 6% for me on remix with my 2080

[earnest yew]

that's niiiice

[turbid barn]

yup, looks awesome

sometime i will use pbrify for it

[jade edge]

Alan Woke

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-homelander-the-boys-exhale-relieved-gif-15406600715060657123

[compact blaze]

cold?

[livid rapids]

GameImageUtil says hi

[turbid barn]

[hasty sonnet]

arent we all?

[modern quest]

@keen rivet does the installer have an option for the skybox mod cube thing?

[keen rivet]

it does not no.

[hasty sonnet]

@keen rivet how many bugs did you add to remix

[keen rivet]

atleast 80

[livid rapids]

Can you add more

Pretty please

[hasty sonnet]

remove them before i remove your house with a AGM-114L

[keen rivet]

Wtf!!!!!

[weak ermine]

hell yeah

[turbid barn]

you are getting normals map directly from game?

if yes, what tool are you using? husky?

[livid rapids]

That's very outdated, you need to use greyhound with cordycep

https://dest1yo.github.io/docs/codwiki/test/quick-cordycep-tutorial

No bo6 support yet tho

[compact blaze]

Are there other tools for bo6 support?

[willow fog]

Garry, can you make me a mod?

Garry: ok

Cr and xenthio: But better graphics

[livid rapids]

cordycep has a paid option with bo6 support but no eta on when dest1yo will release it for free

[earnest yew]

i have it

cause i'm awesome

[lapis delta]

absolute cinema.

[subtle bison]

so we are finally back to peak...

entirely custom mesh renderer for static props

best perf scenario with 0 culling period

[wispy crest]

i dont think the game is supposed to look like that

[subtle bison]

ye cuz i have set debug materials and also out of bounds to force the engine to render everything

[wispy crest]

poor source

youre torturing it

[subtle bison]

dw i can/will do far worse

[wispy crest]

noooo

[subtle bison]

yep 100% normal

[earnest yew]

@subtle bison

https://tenor.com/view/cars-tow-mater-mater-my-best-friend-best-friends-gif-16159812

[subtle bison]

holy shit this is really the perfect solution

its faster than culling patches yet far cheaper than previous methods... I havent even added distance culling yet

[wispy crest]

what is this supposed to fix

[subtle bison]

my hands are fucking shaking, its finally happening

[subtle bison]

static prop culling, one of the more severe issues on x64

LMFAO ITS FASTER THAN ENGINE RENDERING

https://tenor.com/view/cherrysticker-gif-19173161

[winter radish]

Huh

[subtle bison]

lol

applying materials is a bit buggy for models that use a single texture atlas

yipee fixed

[willow fog]

CR is ascending

[subtle bison]

x64 about to come the singleplayer king of perf

visual demo

using a HDRI to demo engine props with culling vs our custom static prop renderer with no culling

static props are now a completely solved issue, holy shit

[wispy crest]

oooh this fixes the shadows going away randomly

[subtle bison]

yes

[wispy crest]

ebin

[subtle bison]

csgo cs_office with all of the new upcoming stuff (api lights, hdri, static prop renderer, custom displacement renderer)

rip my fps (transformers dlss qualty @ 1080p on my poor 2080)

[winter radish]

By the way, apparently the reason FSR 4 uses fp8 and won’t run on RDNA 3 is because it’s a mix of CNN and Transformer, which is why it beats DLSS CNN

[subtle bison]

when FSR 4 remix /s

amd pls open source fsr4

otherwise my rx 9070 purchase is gonna suck for remix

[wispy crest]

i wouldnt have bought amd in the first place

[subtle bison]

me when a decent gpu is affordable

im not gonna get vram cucked by nvidia offerings lol

thats the only reason why im upgrading

[winter radish]

I wonder if AMD will actually open source because that may give people a chance to add NVIDIA support which they don’t want

I would ask for the SDK but I don’t know what to do with that

That’s for them to help integrate so I have no need for it

[earnest yew]

ok like

https://tenor.com/view/mater-cars-cars-movie-i-want-you-gif-27645635

[subtle bison]

remix DOES NOT like having everything rendered lmao

cuz the map is full of fuckin alpha trees

yep lmao

[earnest yew]

i think the biggest thing you cant optimize is alphas

[subtle bison]

yea im not even gonna bother

[earnest yew]

dat shit will forever tank games

[wispy crest]

sigma trees

[subtle bison]

thankfully its the same hl2 ep2 tree everywhere lmao, just replace it with a fully modelled one with no alpha

[earnest yew]

would that render faster

[subtle bison]

ye

cuz there is no alpha

alpha and path tracing do not go together

[earnest yew]

https://polyhaven.com/a/pine_tree_01

[subtle bison]

bet

ill do it right now

[earnest yew]

https://polyhaven.com/a/tree_small_02

[subtle bison]

the 1st one matches the hl2 ep2 one

[earnest yew]

https://polyhaven.com/models/nature/trees

[subtle bison]

cuz its a pine tree

[earnest yew]

polyhaven has alot of models

until it dont

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-tank-nicki-minaj-tanked-mariah-carey-tanked-khia-ice-spice-tanked-gif-3553741162841780851

[subtle bison]

what the hell does this gif mean

[earnest yew]

thats a nice tree

i like beach trees

[subtle bison]

good lord the size for 1 asset

[earnest yew]

yes

it big

its like 17m poly

tri's

[winter radish]

Imma say it guys

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-lazy-writing-gif-13152134270122726022

[subtle bison]

importing this tree into the toolkit loves to crash my gpu driver

ty nvidia, amazing driver stability

💀

ok fuck 4k, ima try 2k

[earnest yew]

it might be the poly count

lol

[subtle bison]

im not gonna be able to import this am i

yea fuck that model lmao

17M tris

https://polyhaven.com/a/island_tree_01

only 43K for this one

[earnest yew]

try

you could also prolly just supersize this

https://polyhaven.com/a/tree_small_02

[subtle bison]

this shit is alpha 💔

[subtle bison]

wow 126K tris

maybe its modelled

[earnest yew]

mayb e

nah ion think so

[subtle bison]

wait i think it is?

[earnest yew]

hold on

wow it is

nvm

go ahead

[subtle bison]

lfg

[earnest yew]

nvm its not

the .blend foodled me

theres not even any leaves on the .fbx

[subtle bison]

yea just found out

[earnest yew]

good modeled trees r hard

[subtle bison]

hl2rtx pls

[earnest yew]

they're either highpoly asf

or shitty looking

[subtle bison]

i think im gonna need 256gb of ram to import the 17M tri one

[earnest yew]

let me

see

wtf

[subtle bison]

lmao

u gotta pay for the rest

🤑

[earnest yew]

OH MY GOD THIS IS AIDS

[lapis delta]

guys, i would like to ask many of you, what is better for you now, nrc or restir?

[subtle bison]

nrc with modified training settings

so it actually updates when i move around

instance sampled before that

fuck restir gi

[lapis delta]

i would like to see nrc with temporal reuse so we don't need that screen space noisy peepee

[lapis delta]

can u show please?

[subtle bison]

its whatever uncle provided

[lapis delta]

huh?

where?

[subtle bison]

@willow fog nrc setting pweaze

[potent agate]

my pc is worthy of the pine tree in blender

[subtle bison]

can you send one of them with a reduced polycount?

[potent agate]

by how much

[subtle bison]

idk, as long as the total isnt 17 million triangles

[potent agate]

blender file + textures
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h0jLi5YPqNwMjYSrM2DAnqz5rsXs9N9E/view?usp=sharing
should be only 1 million now

[subtle bison]

💋 ty

no more alpha trees lfg

[distant crystal]

Is this free to use? Would love to put it in a couple games

[subtle bison]

added a optional distance limit to the custom static prop renderer

anything past 1500 units will be handled with pvs and frustrum culling

[subtle bison]

i dont see why not, its from the polyhaven site originally

[distant crystal]

Just wanted to be sure before I go ripping stuff into other games, the Google drive link is what made me skeptical if it was his work or not

[potent agate]

I didn't even see the ping lol
but yeah it's not mine I just lowered the triangle count

[earnest yew]

free rights

[subtle bison]

death

https://tenor.com/view/skweezy-jibbs-sad-ball-funny-gif-20244232

[earnest yew]

lol

[subtle bison]

that fully pixelated mess is our fucking fully modeled tree

[earnest yew]

LOL

now in game

[subtle bison]

nah it crashed shortly after 💔

[earnest yew]

jesus

[subtle bison]

i cannot save the project

help

[earnest yew]

@nv_mark

plz fix

trree epxlic

tree vberea

tree

tere fdreak

[subtle bison]

@nv_mark i need a rtx 5090 and 256gb of ram thx

[earnest yew]

....

[subtle bison]

nvm make it 768gb

[earnest yew]

alex will give it to you

@wooden wind

please be our benefactor

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-half-life-half-life2-hl-breen-gif-19548781

im jus trolling

[wooden wind]

I see, I see. ^^

[earnest yew]

we need a 5090

with 900 vram

900 gb vram

STAT!

the trees...

the trees...

[wooden wind]

Please call me Yoshi BTW, as that's the alias of my fursona. :3

[earnest yew]

oh yeah no problem

i normally read out the nv tags

[wooden wind]

That's totally understandable.

[earnest yew]

how many polys is the fixed tree

[subtle bison]

1M

[earnest yew]

isnt like

the hl2rtx viewmodels 200k

prolly less

[pulsar flicker]

what

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-on-smoke-cpu-blasts-potato-pc-gif-24592403

[potent agate]

somehow my pc handled 3 trees that size in blender and it didn't care

probably because I have 64gb of ram

[subtle bison]

i have 64gb as well but i only have 32gb dedicated to my windows 11 vm

[potent agate]

Could also be vram limited?

My GPU has 16gb I don't remember what the 2080 has

I think it's 12?

[brittle token]

rtx remix be back, no more nrc crash

:D

[brittle token]

the new table material made it damn easy to notice the cup is hovering, darn

[weak ermine]

bro just took a picture of his house

[weak ermine]

btw what map is it

[brittle token]

it's called summer day 2004

[weak ermine]

thx

[brittle token]

the buildings have some interiors, for some reason the map runs terribly, but the scene was too good to pass up

[keen rivet]

Niceeeeeeeeeee

The question is do we have hash compatibility with hl2 rtx on the static props

[weak ermine]

why i can't see view models on hdr maps

[lapis delta]

nrc?

[hasty sonnet]

opne on the right makes it look real

[subtle bison]

pbr one looks like a fucking photo

nice job

[earnest yew]

floating mug

[pulsar flicker]

Real

[half viper]

im not getting the launcher to work properly it just deletes the game ui for some reason

[pulsar flicker]

why is my game crashing on map load

[pulsar flicker]

its caused by the ray tracing

loading with rtx off works fine

ive tried x32 as well it doesnt work

@subtle bison possible fix?

this is x32^

[subtle bison]

prob addon related, most of these logs dont really have anything useful

[pulsar flicker]

Ahh

[subtle bison]

the bridge crashes are a common issue as well, x64 wont suffer from those but it has its own issues

you can try putting this bridge.conf in bin/.trex

i think it fixed issues for me in the past? this was months ago tho

[subtle bison]

consider the rtx 2080 slaughtered by the rx 9070

74fps @ full res 1080p

LMFAO

THIS IS INSANE

[compact blaze]

That’s fsr 3 over dlss right?

[subtle bison]

yep

[compact blaze]

That’s on the unoptimized windows drivers right?

[subtle bison]

yep

i havent even tried linux yet

fuck im excited

[compact blaze]

Imagine how insane the performance will be when amd supports all the DXR 1.2 features

[subtle bison]

i dont think remix will benefit from DXR stuff since its exclusive to dx12

[compact blaze]

Nah remix uses features like this already for 40 series and above

So I’m excited when amd cards support these features

[subtle bison]

article link? remix is VK only so it would be extremely weird to use any DXR features

[compact blaze]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/announcing-directx-raytracing-1-2-pix-neural-rendering-and-more-at-gdc-2025/

[subtle bison]

right but where does remix come into this

as i said this is for the DXR api not vulkan

[compact blaze]

Because remix already supports opacity micro maps and shader execution reordering for cards that support it (40 and 50 series)

[subtle bison]

yes for DXR and vulkan, but we dont know if AMD already supports this in vulkan drivers in windows

im sure RADV on linux most likely already has these extensions

[compact blaze]

That’s nice hopefully

Radv is Linux only right?

[subtle bison]

yea its a open source driver

not developed by AMD but a large community

[compact blaze]

Hope amd is encouraging stuff like that cause it seems to be the thing that heavily boosts rt performance on amd cards

[subtle bison]

yea radv is black magic

[compact blaze]

Ig it was able to be made since amd open sources a ton of their stuff right?

[subtle bison]

not too sure on the details, just know that the userspace stuff is completely open

similar stuff is happening with nvidia as well with nvk

[compact blaze]

That’d cool

[winter radish]

Remix is using Vulkan versions

NVIDIA created new extensions and everything

So AMD needs to adapt those

[compact blaze]

I wonder is it a similar situation with nvidia where rt performance sky rockets with NVK?

[compact blaze]

Oh that’s really cool

[subtle bison]

nah not yet, nvk stuff is super early

the proprietary drivers already perform extremely well on linux

[potent agate]

Welcome to not having to be on dlss ultra performance

[compact blaze]

Oh ya it only supports at most 20 series it seems

[subtle bison]

im on like the other spectrum now lmao

1440p at full res is still completely usable

[winter radish]

@subtle bison if you find any issues with RADV, remember we have a dev in our server to help with that stuff

[potent agate]

I play at 1440p with my 4070 ti super and yeah I can agree

[compact blaze]

But ya I hope one day if amd releases their version of ray reconstruction some magician can swap dlss RR with amd’s version

[potent agate]

I have to use dlss at 1440p but at 1080p it's fine

well actually

60 fps is fine at 1440p

But I'd rather have more since the 1% lows are not 60

[peak rover]

wait does this mean higher fps on linux than windows or am i dumb

[compact blaze]

For amd on Linux if properly configured has higher performance

@winter radish am I right or am I right?

[winter radish]

For RADV typically yes
And they recently fixed some RDNA 4 issues

[subtle bison]

@winter radish it runs worse 💔

something aint right

full res 1080p

[winter radish]

Might want to bring that up to the RADV dev

[subtle bison]

were the rdna4 changes included in a new release or do i need to compile mesa git

also water very broken, just like the bc250

who is the radv person i need to get in contact with?

[weak ermine]

why i cant see god damn view models on hdr maps wtf

[winter radish]

Think you need to compile mesa git

[winter radish]

Yeah, I've noticed assets like Glass are also broken on Linux for our Portal 2 with RTX build, might be related

[subtle bison]

ye its probably a universal issue on radv if its happening on 3 different gens of hardware lol

ye no changes with mesa-git

still runs much worse compared to windows

doesnt seem to be an optiscaler issue, TAAU at full res runs the same

[compact blaze]

so RadV on rdna4 is bad rn?

[subtle bison]

not sure, i've seen someone running hl2rtx with a 9070 xt on a different server with better results

it could be my setup but ill mess with it later

[winter radish]

Unless each game is different, Mesa did have issues opened for HL2 RTX and Portal 2 with RTX

But that shouldn’t be the case since it’s all Remix

[compact blaze]

Asking cause maybe rdna 3 might be more optimized since it’s older and more well known while rdna 4 just came out, so improvement results from rdna 3 might not be as major as rdna 4

Y’know?

[brittle token]

yep

[pulsar flicker]

nothing is fixed

ive done multiple clean installs too

[subtle bison]

i guess move to x64 then, i don't really know what causes them but i know its not game related

[pulsar flicker]

it happens on x64

[subtle bison]

i would google the bridge crashes for hl2rtx since those got resolved iirc?

[subtle bison]

how are you getting a bridge crash on x64, there is no bridge on x64

[pulsar flicker]

not a bridge crash

it just crashes

like map doesnt even load

ima try to reinstall my drivers

[subtle bison]

so where is it crashing?

[pulsar flicker]

once it says ready to play

reinstalling drivers fixed it

[subtle bison]

guh

nvidia moment

[winter radish]

@subtle bison just realized if we get FSR 4 into Portal 2 with RTX
RDNA 3 users on Linux will be able to use it

[subtle bison]

didnt the reddit post say it would be 10x lower perf with fsr4 on rdna 3 because of the fp16 emulation?

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/hush-creepy-anime-sinister-gif-20210197

I have 155fps in the starting area, I can afford a little fps loss

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-tank-nicki-minaj-tanked-mariah-carey-tanked-khia-ice-spice-tanked-gif-3553741162841780851

[pulsar flicker]

is there a way to fix the vram leak

[compact blaze]

U can try increase fsr 3’s base resolution to get the same level of quality and performance as fsr 4 ultra performance will prob be

[subtle bison]

its caused by weapon addons precaching textures

usually at least

but no there isn't a way to fix it unless the addon author disables that feature

[earnest yew]

isnt it like

really easy to edit the addon to not do datr

[subtle bison]

idk

depends on how they do it

[subtle bison]

@winter radish DLSS performance @ 1080p with a massive undervolt

on windows

i think im at RTX 5080 territory of fps lmfao

this is without framegen

absolute fucking monster of a GPU

[steel lark]

niknaks is having errors and the performance is horrible (cpu bound)

[subtle bison]

more news at 11

[steel lark]

on gmod 32bit

[subtle bison]

perf is ass on x32 because there is no culling

[steel lark]

so 64 bit is better again???

[subtle bison]

not atm

it has its own issues

its probably faster but you'll have the same culling issues its known for

[steel lark]

nvmd

proton hotfix fixed it

https://tenor.com/view/biao-panda-biaoqing-biaoarmy-chinesememe-gif-12888728472249105358

[subtle bison]

@winter radish why does RR sort of work on AMD

lmfao

im spoofing a rtx 4090 and it surprisingly doesnt crash my game

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-gif-22037253

[subtle bison]

so ofc 3840x2160 makes the game frozen on boot on AMD, but sure this fucking works fine

💀

its like 1 pixel less on both axis

yea this is insane

72fps @ DLSS perf 4K

[earnest yew]

Yummy...

[potent agate]

I would test my own fps properly but I'm sticking to the more stable 566 drivers, so I can't load the game

[pulsar flicker]

how do I get rtx remix to load mods from rtx-remix/mods

dragging and dropping dosent work

[subtle bison]

i mean thats how you do it

how old are the mods

they might be made for the new hash system which we dont use anymore

[pulsar flicker]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/construct-rtx/downloads/construct-rtx-64

march 17