Garry's Mod

[onyx ridge]

what about garry mod catgirls

:3c

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-ai-generated-king-von-anti-piracy-screen-gif-13459544680774853932

[keen rivet]

the hl2rtx pkgs just wont load for some reason

i dont know why

[earnest yew]

they worked

wdym

[keen rivet]

they did??

huh

[earnest yew]

portal rtx correct?

[keen rivet]

i couldnt get them working

[earnest yew]

are we both talking about portal rtx

[keen rivet]

oh

[subtle bison]

iirc hes talking about gmod

[keen rivet]

no i assumed gmod

because gmod chat

[earnest yew]

oh

[keen rivet]

lmao

[earnest yew]

do i deadass have to unpack then repack all these pkgs for a shitty mod

[willow fog]

I come into Gmod chat

Trans catgirls
Portal with rtx

[subtle bison]

day ruined

[earnest yew]

anyways

kanye twitter

[willow fog]

Fucked up

[willow fog]

Didn't he get banned?

[earnest yew]

nope

hes been going for like a month

[willow fog]

Lemme go check on him

[earnest yew]

he says he wants to kill playboi carti

[subtle bison]

voidmall being the crysis of PVS optimization holy shit 8000 entities

[earnest yew]

wait so why did csgo maps work all of a sudden

[subtle bison]

i have 0 idea

i did nothing to my game lmao

[earnest yew]

lol

[willow fog]

Bro's sad about his kids

[earnest yew]

kim killed him

[willow fog]

Real

Someone let a brother love his kids

💔

[subtle bison]

this will be csgo in 2012

[subtle bison]

map uses over 3gb of vram alone wtf

[willow fog]

What does it look like?

[subtle bison]

its a stupidly dense map

[willow fog]

Oh wow

[willow fog]

Looks great tho

[subtle bison]

the textures are the issue

look at the fuckign size and how many there are

💀

[willow fog]

Amateur game development

Aka modding

[subtle bison]

game is stuttering real bad but otherwise the fps isnt horrible

[earnest yew]

holy map

[keen rivet]

i got pkgs loading

[subtle bison]

WHA rfeew f

ef

rw

t

]tw

[keen rivet]

turns out its not just 1 pkg mod at a time

its jhust

ONE MOD

[willow fog]

Elaborate

[keen rivet]

at a time

[subtle bison]

explain yoursewlf

[willow fog]

Oh...

That's suboptimal

What if I want all of them to load?

[keen rivet]

maybe you could make a mod that loads the mods as submods

which also would be neat because you get to specify loadorder

[subtle bison]

good fucking lord

just this map causes all of our addons to freak out

[keen rivet]

whats being done in renderoverride again

is that the disable vertex lighting thing

[subtle bison]

a lot of stuff apparently

its most likely the light updaters

there is over 800 active lights

[keen rivet]

i thought my new lightupdater code didn't lag that much

[subtle bison]

it doesnt, its just this map lmao

it gets real bad here

if i turn off fvf (its responsible from keeping most lightupdaters from culling)

perf skyrockets

[willow fog]

Post map link

[earnest yew]

yay

[subtle bison]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138642703&searchtext=void

[subtle bison]

it could also be the 7K static props lmfao

[willow fog]

Can you ping me again with the same link? I wanna test something

[subtle bison]

no

[subtle bison]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138642703&searchtext=void

ok its just the static props, these settings help perf a lot
@keen rivet

[willow fog]

Thx. I wanted to click on the open link button because apparently if I click on links I'm the app, it always goes to the browser where I'm not logged in

[subtle bison]

light updaters dont seem to impact perf at all

nvm they do lol

map is too dense

[willow fog]

Is this all from one package?

[keen rivet]

no this is all the hl2rtx pkgs loaded

pkgs dont load if you have more than 1 mod in remix mods folder tho

thats the issue

[subtle bison]

what

what kind of bullshit is that

💀

[willow fog]

WHAT

[onyx ridge]

already half redoing the plastic material now that i like

understand substance better

[keen rivet]

man these assets are so cool

[keen rivet]

YOOOOO

🔥

[onyx ridge]

good thumb for how i'm trying to style these is i normally try targeting the original resolution of the texture

try getting it looking as accurate as i can while adding the other funky map stuff

then bump up the output resolution, tweak it if it doesn't look right and add extra small detailing

[willow fog]

So...

I have an idea.

[subtle bison]

oh no

[willow fog]

Lemme cook

[earnest yew]

add the fucking gravity gun

you sick monster

[onyx ridge]

if you don't respect me at my [image] then you don't deserve me at my [image]

[subtle bison]

they're skinned bruh, no chance without manually replacing in source engine itself

[earnest yew]

oh nvm

🤓

[willow fog]

Do you think it's a good idea to use the hl2 demo conf for Gmod? It's really well tuned and the visuals are clean asf

[subtle bison]

ye we could

no harm in it

[earnest yew]

i wish i could have hl2 rtx shit in portal rtx

portal gun

[onyx ridge]

actual new cooler plastic texture

(difuse)

[subtle bison]

this needs to be part of the compat mod

[earnest yew]

i sense some tension betweer cr and plastic

[subtle bison]

i love pbr plastic 🤤

i made my own mod of this like a year ago but i never updated the hashes

oh well

[earnest yew]

how much of css is custom textures

[onyx ridge]

my blender ass was using a blend node and a uniform colour to control the intensity of height and roughness before

when the levels node is right there !!

[winter radish]

Looks like a great TTT map

[keen rivet]

as many assets i could find that just happened to work out of the box

[subtle bison]

this will be gmod in 2009

[earnest yew]

did you use the pkgs?

or decompile

[keen rivet]

pkgs

[subtle bison]

^

[earnest yew]

FUCK

im at 6 on decompiling

[subtle bison]

still better to do that than remove all other mods just to load the pkgs lol

[earnest yew]

ig

[onyx ridge]

is this the why we have to extract the assets from them to use them

[keen rivet]

yeah it sounds like a remix bug

[onyx ridge]

make an issue

i will not rest until the binary module provides a custom mounting capability for source engine rtx things

[earnest yew]

i NEED portal rtx and hl2 rtx to kiss

make love

[willow fog]

Suuuuuuure

buddy

Anything else on ur mind?

[earnest yew]

i like abracadabra by lady gaga

[winter radish]

Bro keeps going backwards 😭

[onyx ridge]

i rember when gmod with cascaded shadow maps and screen space gi was the peak of visuals

[earnest yew]

reshade up the ass

I FUCKING HATE RESHADE

[willow fog]

hl2rtx is currently partaking in abstinence

[onyx ridge]

now i can play it with a model's ball hairs casting individual shadows from an emissive vending machine

[willow fog]

Also lady gaga is still alive??

[earnest yew]

she died in the joker movie

shes been dead

[willow fog]

nvm

I'm listening to the song rn

Holy shit

It's fire

A dumpster fire

[earnest yew]

told you

[earnest yew]

NVM

[willow fog]

[earnest yew]

my music taste is bon iver and blondie

plus michael jackson

[willow fog]

One of the music tastes of all time

hahaha

It's so fucking stupid

I love it

[earnest yew]

its good : (

[onyx ridge]

like

i even made sure the metal flooring thing has the same amount of bumps as the original texture

😭

[willow fog]

That is how one would ideally remake a texture, yes

[earnest yew]

I Like

Did It

[willow fog]

I don't know which one of y'all did make the texture

Try to individualize a little maybe

[keen rivet]

ok i did a basic symlink for source side assets in hl2 rtx, and now a few more things work.

[willow fog]

Unfortunately you'll have to now do a writeup on how to do all o that

[jade edge]

wow, Chell got a big gun

[onyx ridge]

getting closer to prop builds being able to look like hl:a maps...

[earnest yew]

[onyx ridge]

gmod is such a perfect game for remix

maps that already use baked lighting you can compare to

[earnest yew]

shut up nerd

[onyx ridge]

lots of capability to make buildings with dynamic objects that would in fact lack baked lighting entirely

[onyx ridge]

no

[keen rivet]

ok now if i remember correctly theres one last trick i can do to make more shit work

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/saint-kev-gif-25694947

[onyx ridge]

i have remade the phoenix storms dome texture and you have not

i win this argument

[ocean cipher]

is it possible to put the half life rtx 4k textures in gmod

or use

[onyx ridge]

check pinned

[willow fog]

Kinda

[onyx ridge]

and/or wait and see if xenthio figures out a not-extract-needed way

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet do you mind editing the existing wiki entry if all of this other stuff works?

[willow fog]

I wish things were as easy as making a symlink

But you don't get everything in life, do you?

[onyx ridge]

the dome donut

[ocean cipher]

i wanna steal ALL assets from half life 2 rtx fuck half life rtx

[onyx ridge]

i still need to work on the future/scifi vent texture but auuuu

[ocean cipher]

my rtx3060 cant handle this

[subtle bison]

sure it can

[lament quartz]

got a different atmospheric type map to not be a pain in the arse

[subtle bison]

my poor 2080 does

[subtle bison]

something off with your recording software? there is a real bad jitter

[ocean cipher]

it looks like switch gta6 gameplay or something

[modern quest]

#1351781045279916102

helps a lot

[onyx ridge]

my 4050 can handle grtx i think pocket lint could as long as you were fine running at 15 fps

(i am)

[subtle bison]

is NEE cache off

us HDRI users need it

[onyx ridge]

tbf i think i do normally get like 20-30ish average

[lament quartz]

its discord, if you download it it doesnt jitter

[onyx ridge]

frame gen pulls through

[ocean cipher]

i dont know what i am doing lol

tried to install gmod textures and maps

[onyx ridge]

you are clearly not going to ravenholm

[modern quest]

makes basically no difference in the maps included in the demo

tested it multiple times

but i left it on anyway on the low and ultralow presets

i got the gains elsewhere

[ocean cipher]

it crashes instandly i wonder why

im going to install gmod rtx now ( i dont know what im doing)

whats the new way

[subtle bison]

its pinned

[ocean cipher]

ah sorry im blind

guys thank you for making cool things

https://tenor.com/view/epico-cat-epico-cat-epic-cat-meme-epic-cat-epico-meme-gif-20299736

[keen rivet]

ok so this one should be the ultimate fucking move, anything that should work, will fucking work

UNFORTUNATELY

most default models are now going to be invisible

[ocean cipher]

does gwater 2 work with rtx lol?

[subtle bison]

no

[ocean cipher]

what happens when i use it

[keen rivet]

this step involves some minor hex editing

so i believe, we can do this in our binary module

in a smart way that wont fuck up all the other models that dont have a .sw.vtx

[earnest yew]

mustaaaaaaaaaard

[subtle bison]

🤤

[keen rivet]

but yeah that step should be the end all be all for hash compatibility

so lets get coding so i can see if i can replace it smartly :D

[onyx ridge]

wait is this "unpacked models for new hashes" or "packed models for old hashes"

[keen rivet]

packed models for old hashes

[lament quartz]

ok i thinks i got it all now

[onyx ridge]

oh neat

[keen rivet]

this means, we can mount hl2rtx and not need to have duplicated assets across our hard drive

[onyx ridge]

graaah add it as a mount option in gmod!!!!

it would be funny!!!!

[subtle bison]

and what about the mounting issues with remix?

[keen rivet]

this is totally the steps towards that

[keen rivet]

with pkgs? we'll just have to wait for that to get fixed

[lament quartz]

this is why i stopped making sourcemods too, i hate hammer so much sob

[onyx ridge]

also do remix-ified lights not carry colour info?

[subtle bison]

would be cool to make levels in blender and somehow automatically load collison models with the binary module/lua or something and have remix import the actual models

[keen rivet]

lol

[onyx ridge]

i tried using coloured ones in that house that i hate earlier but they were always white

[keen rivet]

anyways, it's IDA time

[onyx ridge]

also also how difficult would a light size option be for gmod lights

[earnest yew]

@subtle bison

[onyx ridge]

[earnest yew]

do i have to have 1.0 runtime for the new assets

shits a bit fucked

[subtle bison]

you need to ignore the green texture if you switched to the old hash system

[ocean cipher]

looks normal to me

[subtle bison]

thats the detail texture remover

[onyx ridge]

why he ourple

[subtle bison]

blud has half of gmod installed

[onyx ridge]

[ocean cipher]

haha yes kinda

its half life rtx

[subtle bison]

is it hl2

[onyx ridge]

garry's mod but without the garry

[subtle bison]

its hl2rtx isnt it

mod

[ocean cipher]

ye

[earnest yew]

i wonder where the rtx grass comes from

no matter what i do its a error

[subtle bison]

its probably imported in the toolkit

we dont have stable displacement hashes i think so it probably doesnt work

[onyx ridge]

one day... skinned meshes....

[subtle bison]

maybe one day

[earnest yew]

ping kralich...

[onyx ridge]

mostly so i can replace the primitive spheres with smoother ones

[subtle bison]

NO WAY

🙀

[onyx ridge]

sonic mania if it was GOOD ???

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-squid-game-squid-game-2-tuff-dance-tuff-gif-1192143770479362748

[lament quartz]

imagine this lampshade with proper SSS

[subtle bison]

nah this is a blender animation you made
dont lie

🤓

[earnest yew]

cycles wishes

[subtle bison]

nah cycles has CAUSTICS

[lament quartz]

right

[ocean cipher]

it works in hl2rtx i think lol

[lament quartz]

i think i broke the models tho because they are all static and cant be picked up

[subtle bison]

you should actually post this on /r/blender and see if you fool people

[lament quartz]

whar

[lament quartz]

true true

[ocean cipher]

i can look a little bit inside the head of the little zombie thing

forgot the name

[onyx ridge]

your mom

[earnest yew]

lamar

half life fans hate anything that isnt beta

or half life 3

[subtle bison]

or official

[earnest yew]

or beta

so spoooooky

[onyx ridge]

dank and griddy...

[earnest yew]

who wants to join me in hl2 rtx gmod

first two people in rtx ravenholm!!!

[lament quartz]

!!!!

[lament quartz]

yeah rtx skin ik abt it

[onyx ridge]

do you think there'll be people in 2050 playing gmod super rtx on their phones at 16k 500 fps

[ocean cipher]

yes

me

[earnest yew]

why arent the models being replaced?

only materials

[ocean cipher]

thatsthe only reason why i dont wanna die

yet

[onyx ridge]

i don't wanna die because there are still cute girls out there to kiss

[earnest yew]

wtf

[onyx ridge]

and trans/homophobes to piss off

[ocean cipher]

real

i wanna kiss my girlfriend while playing gmod rtx on my phone behind her back

[earnest yew]

downtown tits

[ocean cipher]

das crazy

[lament quartz]

tits rp

[ocean cipher]

Tits Tits Tits

trouble in terorist tits

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison are culling hooks not used anymore?

theyre not initialised

[subtle bison]

i dont have this in my fork hu

i guess its something leftover i forgot to delete

[keen rivet]

culling hooks shouldn't be leftover

thats the r_boxcull patch

[earnest yew]

umm okay

grass works

[keen rivet]

they're not initialised at all dude what if thats why it never worked for you

LMAO

[earnest yew]

some shit just doesn't replace for me

[ocean cipher]

uhm

[subtle bison]

i probably did it intentionally

[ocean cipher]

A_sad

[subtle bison]

remember the r_cullbox patches didnt completely remove culling

[keen rivet]

wouldn't you want them anyways

because it certainly hella removed most for me

[subtle bison]

it was colliding with the view frustrum addon so i turned it off and forgot about it. if it works that well i can add it back but its been so long lmao

[lament quartz]

aw dang it

[subtle bison]

the hashes are stable, enable remix capture mode

[lament quartz]

oh

[ocean cipher]

i know its german but do you guys know this?

[keen rivet]

it did?

[keen rivet]

nv flex release wtf

do you have gelly installed

[subtle bison]

not like on a technical level, just development in general

[keen rivet]

or gwater, but that looks like gelly

[subtle bison]

at that point in figuring out things i thought i could replicate what a proper engine patch does without any weird workarounds like we have present day lmao

[lament quartz]

are the water textures broke or?

[keen rivet]

no you couldn't replicate that in lua

[subtle bison]

thats the texture we replace all water with so the remix water replacement works

[keen rivet]

not properly at least

[subtle bison]

me 3 months ago did not think that lmao

[ocean cipher]

i think i habe g2waterinstalled

have

[lament quartz]

yeah but i have the mod installed that makes it water but there isnt the water pbr

[subtle bison]

yes thats the one

did you enable old hashes?

[lament quartz]

oh right

im stupid

sorry

[ocean cipher]

do i just delete this?

[keen rivet]

yeah or disable

ok yeah i added the rcullbox patch back and theres disabled view frustum stuff and things behind me arent disappearing

[subtle bison]

do you have meshed world renderer still enabled

[keen rivet]

yeah

thats fixed elsewhere

these culling patches dont fix that

[subtle bison]

so its just props/static meshes?

[keen rivet]

so we still need custom world renderer for now

yeah thats what r_cullbox was for

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet how do you feel about including an installer the next release?

and how that should be done?

[keen rivet]

no idea

[subtle bison]

also i fixed our dep issue with the 3 other addons, we only need niknaks again

lithium no longer makes a meaningful impact on perf now that most operations happen in the binary module

[keen rivet]

i didnt know we needed other addons lmao

i only had niknaks

[subtle bison]

we needed a faster hook lib and lithium because my code was super ass when it was full lua

its still ass but its faster

[earnest yew]

i fixed fire somehow

[subtle bison]

i fixed fire 🤵‍♂️

[subtle bison]

well xenthio originally did but i then i adapted it for x64

[earnest yew]

oh its the hl2rtx particles i put in the game textures

[subtle bison]

?

did i like fully wipe it from the repo

💀

[subtle bison]

oh

im blind

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/commit/1000e0b54916094f2af2c6c7983a4f4c5ec658c0

🙂

[lament quartz]

are infmaps still broken?

[subtle bison]

they mostly work

[subtle bison]

gotta wait for chunks to load, unless this is something else

[keen rivet]

ok so i'm looking into a way to try to make datacache.dll check if there's a .sw.vtx before .dx90.vtx
so it tries to load sw.vtx and if it doesn't exist, load dx90.vtx.

[ocean cipher]

is this gta6

[lament quartz]

how long does chunk loading take

[subtle bison]

idk, until its done

some people said it builds faster if you turn off RT

you can check the console for progress

[ocean cipher]

is still cant launch a map

it just turns off

SpunchBopSad

[lament quartz]

idk it may be something other than loading but i could still be wrong

[subtle bison]

wut da hell

[lament quartz]

and this infmap works fine

[subtle bison]

how are the hashes for infmap lol

i never checked

[ocean cipher]

i hear one bird for 0,1 seconds and then it closes

[lament quartz]

surprisingly stable

[subtle bison]

start with disabling all of your addons except the 4 required

and work your way up

also make sure you renamed your game so steam didnt update it

otherwise it removes the patched binaries

[ocean cipher]

14pages of mods💔

i there a faster way

[subtle bison]

you can renable stuff once you figure out what breaks what

yes

[loud mural]

Make sure you also removed flex

I'm pretty sure it still tries to load even without GWater2 iirc

[ocean cipher]

SINCE WHEN IS THIS A FEATURE

i love this

[subtle bison]

a while

@keen rivet so why do we need the rtx menu panel if everything we need needs to be enabled anyway?

just curious

[ocean cipher]

where can i do this

[keen rivet]

i dont enable "disable vertex lighting"

it breaks things

[subtle bison]

so why not just remove it and then hide all these options?

[loud mural]

Just delete the files you installed when you installed GWater2

[keen rivet]

idk

[lament quartz]

ok guys gm fork time

time to see if cr is telling thr truth

[subtle bison]

fork runs pretty ok

i swear

[lament quartz]

yeah it runs pretty ok

[subtle bison]

huh

this looks like stuff from the old gmrtx release

[ocean cipher]

is there a way to change the path

[subtle bison]

im redownloading fork rq

omfg

obs why

fork looks and runs fine for me, 0.6.0 release build

@keen rivet i rebuilt my module with the r_cullbox patches, seems like it doesnt affect lightupdaters?

[keen rivet]

i wonder if the r_cullbox patch didnt apply correctly on client

any errors?

[subtle bison]

get lots of map crashes with cullbox enabled as well lol

hard to test

[ocean cipher]

just deleted those files idk what they are doing but still doesnt work

lol

[keen rivet]

huh

[subtle bison]

yeah im crashing every other map load

[keen rivet]

you can disable c_frustumcull to stop that

wait

[subtle bison]

that isnt a cvar in gmod

[keen rivet]

every other

maybe a hook isnt shutting down properly

[keen rivet]

pushed a fix

[subtle bison]

still crashing

even on a 1st load sometimes

prob ASLR stuff again?

ill try to hook vs if i can reproduce it quickly

[keen rivet]

THANK YOU CLAUDE YOU CLEVER COOKIE I COULDNT THINK OF SOMETHING THIS EASY FOR THE LIFE OF ME

[subtle bison]

is this sarcasm

🙂

[keen rivet]

no

[subtle bison]

oh lmao

[keen rivet]

i actually didnt think of it

expensive fix tho

look at that think time

[subtle bison]

claude my beloved

[modern quest]

the thinking thing is such a waste imo

fills up context and wastes tokens

[keen rivet]

the reasoning was very well spent here

the non thinking claude basically said "yeah i dunno" over and over again

[modern quest]

honestly that'd be the first time i've seen reasoning do something useful lol

[subtle bison]

I've also had great help from 3.7's reasoning

context is very important for it

[modern quest]

i was just using claude to make a program the other day

i mainly used 3.5 as it's cheaper with the API, plain 3.7 was messing up a lot of stuff, and the reasoning was failing with handling multiple files

[subtle bison]

weird, i don't have this issue using the continue plugin on vscodium

i guess it depends on the codebase

[modern quest]

yeah mine was kinda massive

[ocean cipher]

yall do such complicated things and I can't even load into the map

[modern quest]

https://github.com/Kim2091/video-destroyer

[ocean cipher]

💔

[subtle bison]

did you do all of the steps we suggested

also it's probably worth reinstalling the game

[ocean cipher]

doing it rn

is there a way to make a clean install from steam but dont change my main gmod with all addons and stuff

my rtx gmod is on a diffrent drive

[subtle bison]

well reinstalling your gmod should just redownload everything anyway

workshop downloads live on steam and no longer the game

[ocean cipher]

ah yes i forgor

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-i-forgot-i-forgor-gif-22449575

[earnest yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ts-squid-game-squid-game-2-tuff-dance-tuff-gif-1192143770479362748

[ocean cipher]

and the duplicates!?

i think i can save them manualy and put them in the new folder right

[subtle bison]

those are cloud saved

at least they are for me

i have like 8 gmod installs and they all share the same saves and dupes lol

not including workshop

[quasi blaze]

could you try this map? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444986264&searchtext=

[keen rivet]

alright, lets hope this crazy fucking thing works

[quasi blaze]

uhm what's this?

[earnest yew]

filesystem signature scanning and hooking

[steel lark]

gyatt damn

[quasi blaze]

how about this! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444714736&searchtext=

[glass plinth]

lights were broken, had to add them manually

runs amazingly well without frame generation

[keen rivet]

fixed i think for real this time

[subtle bison]

bet

hmmm

also far my game seems to work fine

so im assuming the model stuff is for the hl2rtx assets

im assuming the r_cullbox patches dont touch physics props?

[earnest yew]

why do half of the models not work for me

[glass plinth]

HL2 Alone mod works pretty well when remixed

[ocean cipher]

gmod still crashes how is this possible i did a clean install with no addons

besides the one i need

[subtle bison]

maybe update your drivers?

where is it crashing?

[ocean cipher]

this

[subtle bison]

when its finishing loading the map?

[ocean cipher]

yes

"ready to play"

no

[subtle bison]

sounds like shaderapidx9 stuff, try re-extracting the mod files and make sure everything gets overwritten

ill try a newer gmod build myself and see if something broke

[ocean cipher]

OMG IT WAS MEDAL

[subtle bison]

💀

[ocean cipher]

bro

[subtle bison]

adding this to the github

[ocean cipher]

2 hours of my life wasted

[keen rivet]

OK IT fuckigng WORKS

but it doesnt run early enough

[earnest yew]

howwwww

they dont work for meeee

[ocean cipher]

lowkey i though its crashing again but then i somehow loaded in but it was freezed for like 5 seconds

[keen rivet]

so props in the map dont work, see the can

[ocean cipher]

is this normal

[subtle bison]

just wait a bit

it does that on a clean install

[glass plinth]

I really need to try this with the enhanced assets

[subtle bison]

still working for me

[ocean cipher]

yea its finally working i just closed my cliping programm an the it worked

[subtle bison]

no way to force the engine to reload props?

[glass plinth]

this is the best the glass has ever looked for me IMO

usually it's a black and blurry mess

[keen rivet]

r_flushlod crashed the game so gonna try cleaning mdlcache from c++

didn't do a thing...

[crystal storm]

https://github.com/yeezybeezydeezy/gmod-rtx-fixes-installer/wiki is this up to date or do we still have to do the repo version edit?

[subtle bison]

ye its up to date

[crystal storm]

Hmmm, getting "Extracted Unknown" for almost everything in pkg 1 and got all unknown for pkg 2

[subtle bison]

weird, they made a commit to fix that

[crystal storm]

ah so likely after I downloaded the dxvk main lol, lemme try again

Yup that was it, thanks for the quick response man 💚

[ocean cipher]

rtx only works when im clipping into a wall

[subtle bison]

all maps or just that one?

it probably has some weird material that causes remix to not hook properly

[ocean cipher]

its the third map i tried

gonna try some more

[subtle bison]

huh

does gm_construct or flatgrass have this issue?

[ocean cipher]

i mean its the only one that has it

epic

[keen rivet]

ladies and gentlemen

i present to you

[subtle bison]

peak

lmao xenthio

[keen rivet]

this means we now have more stable hashes, more hash compatibility with hl2 rtx and portal rtx

[subtle bison]

i havent looked at the commit yet, but do we no longer need the existing datacache patch?

[keen rivet]

we do not i dont think

uhh

[ocean cipher]

idk what that means but yaayyy

[keen rivet]

hmm maybe we still do im unsure

the datacache patch fixes a different issue, i havent tested if this fixes that

[subtle bison]

@willow fog not sure if this will make it to the next release depending if things go differently, but i have added a prop toggle for fvf

works around the very slow fps issues when you have lots of physics props

also works for maps that have like 8K static props and you dont care about culling

looking at you voidmall

[willow fog]

Epic

[keen rivet]

just took this photo on my phone

[subtle bison]

make the exposure more uneven and fake optics and you'd be 90% there

[keen rivet]

just took this photo on my phone

[earnest yew]

just took this phone on my photo

[quiet scroll]

oh my fuckin god I thought that was real scrolling through

[lament quartz]

@subtle bison i should post this in r/blender instead

almost photo realism

[subtle bison]

except for the obvious matte materials

[keen rivet]

barely any light bounce

[lament quartz]

yeah lol

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison where's the code for that launcher

[glass plinth]

FeelsDankMan am i doing it right

[lament quartz]

tricked a friend of mine tho (they arent that smart tho)

[keen rivet]

this one

[earnest yew]

yes

[keen rivet]

cool

[subtle bison]

🙂

didnt include it in the main project

[keen rivet]

oh its its own little cmake thingy

[subtle bison]

yea

are you gonna uhhh

do what i think you're gonna do

💀

[keen rivet]

what do you think im gonna do

[glass plinth]

how do I execute the command? pressing enter does nothing

[subtle bison]

you're forgetting the other quotation mark

here

[glass plinth]

yeah my bad I manually typed that out

It still doesn't seem to be working, unless I forgot something else

[subtle bison]

looks ok to me, what happens when you press enter?

[glass plinth]

🤦‍♂️ the little red line below a letter was left at the beginning when I changed the directory for the game

I just had to move it to the end and hit enter

I'm seeing assets relating to ch1 and ch2 of hl2, did they leave everything in for this demo?

[subtle bison]

not everything

there is a lot of replacements without any actual assets so you'll see a lot of blank grey textures

[glass plinth]

would these grey textures show ingame if I were to just drag everything over once it's done extracting?

[subtle bison]

ye

[glass plinth]

damn

I should probably wait for full release before moving the assets over

[subtle bison]

someone can make a script to remove the replacements with missing assets

[quasi blaze]

hmm let me think of more maps

[subtle bison]

so you only have the working assets

anyway im done for tn

💤

[winter radish]

Remix is my one true love

[quasi blaze]

i've got an idea! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3399029154&searchtext=

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-an-idea-junkrat-over-watch-video-game-gif-17492139

[earnest yew]

isn't that just hello neighbor

[quasi blaze]

Yeah but I've been just imagining what would happen if Each video games had ray tracing (or path tracing)

I'm obsessed with it

Ever since I used UE5

[willow fog]

I'd agree if I were blind.

[lament quartz]

ok

[willow fog]

No kidding

That's genuinely far from realistic

[atomic pagoda]

So wait.. was that extractor thing updated? like a billion messages happend since I left and I dont wanna read em all

[half viper]

Can we beg Nvidia engineers to give us skinned meshes fixes

Does half life 2 rtx files do anything when replacing gmod files with it?

Like shaderstd and shit

[willow fog]

Hl2 is x32

[half viper]

Oh right

[willow fog]

No one has given 32bit gmod a shot yet

[half viper]

Dirty 32bit peasants

[willow fog]

Real

[atomic pagoda]

Do I still stick to using this if I want to extract textures? https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/

[winter radish]

DOWN WITH 32 bit

ONLY 64

[atomic pagoda]

Well seems like it didnt work because all im getting is "unable to create folder/open" messages

Any of you guys know what to do?

[crystal storm]

Maybe folder location is the problem? Try making a folder in the C drive itself?

Seems permissions related

[runic gale]

Pretty Sure, It's not supposed be looking like this.

strangely

[crystal storm]

gm_avalance how I missed you

[quasi blaze]

do this map too https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444411473

[quasi blaze]

that's very nice

[crystal storm]

30 FPS my poor GPU

[quasi blaze]

What kind of GPU were you using though?

[crystal storm]

Rocks look weird but got a couple good screenshots

[crystal storm]

ASUS 3080 10Gb

[quasi blaze]

That probably explains the lagging part

[crystal storm]

Sadly my overrides for the transformer model seems to have gone away so its all CNN for some reason

[runic gale]

yeah remove the details texture

[crystal storm]

I do get a solid 60 FPS on Quality preset in HL2RTX though, this map is just really hard on it

[quasi blaze]

Sadly I would not be able to test it also because I've literally Been stuck with a literal 4 GIGS GTX 1650

It's becoming straight annoying

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-lucia-gta-gta6-gta-gta-vi-gif-16739870194737266265

Bad luck I guess

[crystal storm]

You'll get there man, I was running a 1080 for a long ass time

For whatever reason my friends 1660 was way faster at running CSGO than my rig was, he also would get a solid 30 FPS or so over what I would get in the modern CODs

[quasi blaze]

My parents are aware that I need the latest new specs though it's just I can't afford to get New Specs

That's why it's taking a long ass time to get it

[crystal storm]

Especially in today's GPU market and everything else going on in the world, almost shitter time than 2021 when it comes to fair pricing on anything

But it will come, the gates always open and it gets easier to get one

[runic gale]

i got my RTX 3070 in 2021

😦

[crystal storm]

That same friend's 1660 I got for like $200 back in mid 2020, by early 2021 the GPU cost more than his whole rig at $800

[atomic pagoda]

I tried doing that too and it didn't work

@subtle bison I require your wisdom if you wouldn't mind

[quasi blaze]

it was pretty a hell for me that i couldn't experience Portal with RTX due to the GTX "Not supporting the RTX features"

[runic gale]

i was able to play Portal RTX like 50 FPS on 1440p in low DLSS settings

[quasi blaze]

it stayed like this for years ever since i got the current computer back then @runic gale trust me i never got a next upgrade because of my affordability

[runic gale]

At least i was able to get a Upgrade.

So I got RTX 4080 now.

[quasi blaze]

although i live in saudi arabia and i am not sure if there's any stores that has the RTX 4080 that i'm looking for

[runic gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm using Zotac

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-gif-18549684

[quasi blaze]

uhm WHAT THE HECK is that kind of price?

Damn i can't even afford something like that

[runic gale]

:\

*AUD

[quasi blaze]

i just didn't realize the currency differences

[runic gale]

This is the RTX 3070 in early 2022, that i brought

anyway

https://mega.nz/file/614yWRCS#cxtiosSEsSKGdf8jzBDErzKRj0SlUNIP2eVNwIDbAoc

Faithful Gm_Construct Textures asset. Just drop in gmod rtx-remix mods folder

But not complete map, (the buidling windows and some bit.) But majorly ground, walls and ceilings textures.

[crystal storm]

Thank you Gmod! Very cool!!!!!

This happens on like every game exit

[quasi blaze]

Why the heck would a game exe be detected as a security threat?

[crystal storm]

Nah its the server its trying to reach out to, it just marks that it went through gmod.exe, since its a nfoservers.com domain its likely just some random server that the idiot owner tried to hack people with so its forever marked as compromised in multiple databases no matter who goes on to use that IP

[quasi blaze]

Wait is it technically possible to join Gmod multiplayer servers with RTX remix?

[crystal storm]

Yes but the server also has to be running the RTX fix files otherwise things won't render right

[keen rivet]

new launcher

[crystal storm]

I hear there are ways to do it without the server running the files but thats a big no no and any server owner who catches you doing that will likely ban you

[quasi blaze]

Why does the server owners consider that a No No?

[crystal storm]

The way you have to do it, its the same way people load malicious files like hacks n stuff, there is likely a better explanation someone can give, I'm not 100% certain

[quasi blaze]

And some server owners also refuse to add the the RTX fixes to their server too?

[crystal storm]

Eh I haven't tried to convince any of them except for a friend who runs a small server for messing around in

Once remix becomes more popular I imagine more server owners would add it, considering it doesn't make things unplayable for non-RTX players too

[quasi blaze]

I mean yeah RTX remix is Clientside so it makes sense

[crystal storm]

Like I was joking earlier about the RTX Trouble In Terrorist Town server, all it takes is one guy setting the wall textures to 'ignore' and he's got a simple wall hack lol

I will say I was playing a totally different multiplayer game and actually tried to see if remix would give me an advantage by making enemies more vibrant or somehow visible through walls and it just wasn't working out, I imagine you would have to go through some lengths to use remix exclusively for gaining an advantage

[meager oar]

😅 the remix menu is almost like a cheat tool in MP games

Not to mention u can change the player model textures to more vibrant and colorful

Dayum now I wanna test it in CSS

[keen rivet]

any other options that should be here?

[onyx ridge]

explode player on map load

[quasi blaze]

that might explain why server admins are concerned about RTX remix

[quasi blaze]

wait why does it have "load workshop addons" doesen't garry's mod load the subscribed addons from the workshop automatic?

[keen rivet]

It's so you can disable it

[loud mural]

Does it save your custom res?

[quasi blaze]

interesting how does it work?

[keen rivet]

Yes

[loud mural]

Nice

[keen rivet]

If disabled, it adds -noworkshop to the launch options

[loud mural]

Maybe leave a space to let users input custom launch options?

[keen rivet]

Oh yeah i was gonna do that but forgot

[quasi blaze]

also where did you get that Gmod logo from?

[keen rivet]

i extracted it from gmod.exe and tinted it green in gimp lol

[quasi blaze]

it would be better if the logo was polished though

[keen rivet]

i just wanted it to match with gmod.exe

[quasi blaze]

So you mean green indicates that it's the RTX version while Blue is the normal version is that how it works?

[keen rivet]

eventually i would like to make it so it only is rtx if you launch through the launcher

i think that would be neat

[meager oar]

also turn this settings off if anyones experiencing blurry textures even with enhancements

[runic gale]

Off-Line mode?

[quasi blaze]

could you try this map?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=251850928&searchtext=theme+park

this used to be a classic map that was used by SMG4

i don't remember what videos there was that used it though

[keen rivet]

wouldn't that just be enabled when steam is in offline mode?

[onyx ridge]

also any news on hl2 rtx mounting

[keen rivet]

should all work if you build the latest binary module

[keen rivet]

I reckon I should actually add the easy mounting in this launcher

[meager oar]

ok

[meager oar]

runs pretty well

[quasi blaze]

how much FPS are you having currently?

[meager oar]

its in max settings in quality dlss transformer model, getting 71 fps and 132 with FG

[quasi blaze]

but considering that the assets are old in the map i would consider that in need of a you know "Remix"

[keen rivet]

\

[subtle bison]

so how does this actually work?

[meager oar]

i think how normal mounting wrks in gmod? where u only need the games installed to use the assets no need to put them in gmod folders

that will be cool if its like that

[quasi blaze]

wait a minute how does Portal 2 with RTX actually exist?

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[keen rivet]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1289195427119501424

[keen rivet]

itll just do symlinks for you

[onyx ridge]

[keen rivet]

ok it's now able to detect what games you have installed on your computer

[quasi blaze]

what would the assets actually look like in gmod when Portal with RTX is mounted?

[keen rivet]

hopefully all portal assets should look like how they do in portal with rtx

alright

[onyx ridge]

i guess i'll probably need to redo my asset stuff with old hashes

speaking of (more tweaking)

[quasi blaze]

how many details can be added to materials btw?

(textures)

[keen rivet]

okay okay okay

[onyx ridge]

uhhh like 6 iirc
(diffuse, roughness, metallic, normal, emission, height)

[keen rivet]

i think mounting works?

[onyx ridge]

i previously didn't use metallic but i've started using it for the floor plate texture for the grimy bits

[keen rivet]

yep and it recognises that it has been mounted after relaunching the launcher

@subtle bison i made a easy little checkbox thing so adding new games is easy too, you just create a GameMountCheckbox and specify these 3 things

[onyx ridge]

aaaahuh

oh the game launched without any addons

or well it did but they just didn't load anything

aaand the game crashed

???

[quasi blaze]

that's weird that shouldn't happen also

[onyx ridge]

a few restarts and it's fixed

wacky

[quasi blaze]

could you try this model btw? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1688393199&searchtext=apex+legends

[onyx ridge]

wdym

[quasi blaze]

like see if custom playermodels work in Gmod RTX

[onyx ridge]

they generally do

you just can't replace them because uuuhhh sourc engin

[keen rivet]

HOORAY, 1 click content mounting works!

[onyx ridge]

(i still don't like how they're like "hl2 and portal are great examples of what you can do with rtx remix!" mf they only work as well as they do because you can modify the original engine directly)

[quasi blaze]

i wonder if there's gonna be a future solution to this

[onyx ridge]

hopefully because i would Love to replace the phoenix storms props with smoother models

[subtle bison]

umm

what

[keen rivet]

what

[subtle bison]

is grigori not a skinned replacement?

[keen rivet]

idk

probably because he has flexes

i thought they had something for replacement of flexes tho

such a cool model

actually wait im surprised the city scanner and manhack ship with the demo at all

do either of them show up in ravenholm? i dont think they do

[onyx ridge]

is this the hl:a model or one they made themselves?

also they actually get replaced????

yet i can't replace a static sphere

😭

[serene geyser]

how do i fix this

[keen rivet]

make sure

rtx_pseudoplayer_unique_hashes 1
rtx_pseudoweapon_unique_hashes 1

and then goto the alt+x menu, goto game setup tab, and mark all the playermodel textures as a playermodel texture

[serene geyser]

but how do i get rid of seeing the model right infront of me?

the playermodel infront of me then how do i fix it i did do the commands

and when i kill a npc then it just goes like this

[keen rivet]

goto the alt+x menu, goto game setup tab, and mark all the playermodel textures as a playermodel texture

hover over the playermodel, click on it, and start marking the textures

[subtle bison]

or disable them with rtx_pseudoplayer 0 and rtx_pseudoweapon 0

[subtle bison]

looks like vphysics jolt

[keen rivet]

it does?

[subtle bison]

yea it has that funkyness to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVfOmKh3FE

[onyx ridge]

it can be jank but i like it

[serene geyser]

thanks it works

ima do some silly stuff

[onyx ridge]

me when a ragdoll touches a 560000 health prop and it immmediately shatters

it also gets rid of the getting stuck in objects thing

whether that's a pro or a con i dunno

[subtle bison]

odd, i have 8.0.14 installed

ok well recompiling it made it magically work

[keen rivet]

theres a single file publish in the repo that might work

[onyx ridge]

waiting patiently for some magic way to remap hashes

[keen rivet]

also, how does it look with your theme lmao

[onyx ridge]

(i am not patient)

[subtle bison]

good lol

[keen rivet]

wtf its like high dpi

[subtle bison]

ye i have a 4K display

[keen rivet]

high dpi windows xp cursed

[subtle bison]

it would prob look normal with 100% scaling

would be nice if there was a higher res version of the msstyle

@keen rivet if not already, maybe have the launcher automatically modify the rtx.conf to enable old hashes when enabling the remix mounting options?

or we just pick a system and go with that

[keen rivet]

pick old hashes and stick with it

[subtle bison]

so i guess we should probably inform others who've made mods for the new hashes system?

[keen rivet]

yeah.........

sorry guys....

[subtle bison]

it breaks everything we've remade since like dec 9 lol

[subtle bison]

what about the other chance of nvidia fully deprecating the old hash system? (more of a hypothetical question)

[keen rivet]

i mean, isn't hl2 rtx and portal rtx using it?

[subtle bison]

they're not enforcing the old system, those games just use it automatically

or some other method

i just know the rtx.conf flag switches it back for gmod

[onyx ridge]

(this is mostly what i'm paranoid about)

[subtle bison]

also do you have this rendering issue with the old hl2 grass spritecards?

[keen rivet]

yeah but i just did r_DrawDetailProps 0

can probably make those ignore texture actually

[subtle bison]

might be an issue for other maps that use it

[keen rivet]

well considering it looks like that

might as well ignore it

[subtle bison]

yeah but it didnt before is my point

not sure what casued it but its not something in the latest release

[onyx ridge]

today i learned: there's a freakig tower prop

[keen rivet]

and honestly, source grass is way too laggy

i would disable it in rtx entirely tbh

encourage grass inside of remix replacements

[subtle bison]

i guess
also, for some reason some props arent loading their enhanced assets like these explosive barrels, im assuming i need to copy the source-side of the hl2rtx assets or does the launcher also symlink this?

[keen rivet]

looks like you have the source side ones

judging by the lip on the top

recompile the binary module

i did the .sw.vtx fix

[subtle bison]

sweet

good work man

seriously

🙏

[keen rivet]

time to dissappear for 2 months again

cook and dip

[subtle bison]

is that how the game is played? 😜

[keen rivet]

lol nah

force view frustum is so laggy jeez

[subtle bison]

also uhh is this intentional

[keen rivet]

Oh

fuck

if you check console

[subtle bison]

yes, its almost like its stupidly expensive to modify them or something /s
btw its just as slow as a simple 100 line version that sets it once for everything

[keen rivet]

it complains about zombie.mdl's checksum

[subtle bison]

the engine bottlenecks real hard because of overloaded render lists

[subtle bison]

hmm nothing in my console

[keen rivet]

i didnt lag this much in 32bit version where all the culling patches worked

[subtle bison]

yeah, thats why i'd prefer if we had actual culling patches 💀

render bounds modification is the only thing i ever got working within lua

ah there it is

so, anything to fix it atm?

[lapis delta]

left is restir gi, right?

[keen rivet]

i think ill have to somehow check that its valid before i swap the dx90 out for the sw

[meager oar]

Is this menu in the new update?

[subtle bison]

ye most likely

[keen rivet]

i dont think ive ever had this much shit open all at once lmao

[subtle bison]

i dont think i have as much open but i definitely have a busy taskbar

[onyx ridge]

shrug

[keen rivet]

just realised the culling fix convars are never initialised

[meager oar]

yooo do the combine replacement also work?