Garry's Mod

[loud mural]

Ahh well I guess someones gotta check because I have 0 space on this machine currently

[subtle bison]

i left my pc off at home so i cant check either

stuff with bones, like ragdolls or viewmodels

but even some models with no bones are skinned for whatever reason

not sure why

making the hashes stable would be a very difficult effort

updated the readme

@loud mural if you want, you can file github issues for stuff that doesnt work for tracking purposes

similar for how you did for p2

[loud mural]

Sure, although I won't be able to for a couple of days until I get my new drive

[onyx ridge]

i think some non-skinned meshes have unstable hashes too

last i checked like

all of the models gmod adds (i.e not the hl2 ones) are unstable

stuff like the primitives (wood, plastic), the doll used in flatgrass

[subtle bison]

custom model renderer time? /s

[onyx ridge]

[steel lark]

is it really hdr?

if it is that is insane

[subtle bison]

what, the TV?

[steel lark]

yeah

cause i see you played a video that has hdr in the name

[subtle bison]

nah its just the name

[steel lark]

i don't even know if youtube supports hdr video

[subtle bison]

it does

if your display supports it

but i dont think gmods embedded chromium browser does

[steel lark]

sad

[subtle bison]

its SDR, but remix can still tonemap this stuff to be pretty bright

[steel lark]

could it possibly be modded to be hdr?

[subtle bison]

idk

[steel lark]

ohhh nice

me when i'm stuck in the backrooms (i'm just a chill guy)

[subtle bison]

they "just work"

[half viper]

afair some of them rasterize the game

[subtle bison]

do you know which specific ones?

[half viper]

and some attachments

[half viper]

i really cant remember

its a revolver

[subtle bison]

is it part of the default pack?

[half viper]

thats all i can remember

i doubt it tbh

i always downloaded the extra packs

[subtle bison]

the signalis pack worked fine

so did special weapons

[half viper]

but im pretty sure in the default packs there is an attachement that breaks rendering

scope related, so i think its render target moment

[subtle bison]

scopes seem to become invisible when going into ADS

ill add it to the list

[stable scarab]

@subtle bison btw i see you're still using CNN model instead of Transformer, you couldn't get it to work?

[subtle bison]

i did all of the stuff kim said, but it doesnt seem to work with 64-bit remix titles

transformer is working for RR though

[stable scarab]

oh rlly?

didn't know that

[subtle bison]

i think

[modern quest]

yes

[subtle bison]

it says transformer there tho

[modern quest]

i'll test it in gmod since i still have it

[stable scarab]

app_transformer_dllsd but still uses CNN, that's the project build name

[subtle bison]

preset J shows with RR off

[stable scarab]

yeah that its working

[modern quest]

yes

this was the problem we had before the tweaks in profile inspector

we were only able to force it for SR, not RR

[subtle bison]

added a addon list to the readme, let me know if there are issues with other addons that i can add

[modern quest]

yeah

sooooo

i think this is related to what Nukem mentioned before. Portal RTX (and Remix by extension i guess) has a special driver profile that might be causing this issue

[modern quest]

so it works fine in 32 bit, because of the bridge? but not 64 bit

[stable scarab]

its working

[subtle bison]

is this x64 or x32

[stable scarab]

x32 yeah

[subtle bison]

rip

[lament quartz]

rewatching the classics

[subtle bison]

gmod has beaten reality to a self-lit holographic display

[stable scarab]

omg i need that

its a workshop addon?

[subtle bison]

come to x64

yea its a media player

[stable scarab]

il try to update to x64 but im kinda scared of

[subtle bison]

its more stable than x32 😋

will that entice you 😛

[stable scarab]

It was difficult for me to make it work on x32, I don't want to imagine myself on x64

[subtle bison]

what? DLSS4?

[stable scarab]

but yeah the peformance uplift its insane in some maps

[willow fog]

[stable scarab]

the whole RTX mod

[subtle bison]

nah its easy, its a drag n drop archive

[stable scarab]

i was missing particles and i had to mark some textures inside dev menu, but yeah il give it a try later to see how much better x64 is it

[subtle bison]

read the issues section before installing

we're on par with x32 on rendering though

so any issues you had there exist on x64 for particles

but i have a lot of textures marked so you shouldnt run into that too often

[lament quartz]

tell me abt it

[subtle bison]

lmao

the illusion is cracking 🙀

[lament quartz]

[subtle bison]

gonna start consuming all of my yt content in gm_construct

🤤

[stable scarab]

i like the fact you can watch yt videos inside gmod lol

[subtle bison]

ye thats been a thing for a long while

but as of recently, now works in remix

[stable scarab]

only in x64?

[subtle bison]

bigger

[subtle bison]

ye so far

[stable scarab]

cries in x32

[subtle bison]

there aint much reason to stick to x32 anymore anyway

[stable scarab]

more reasons to upgrade to x64

[lament quartz]

Too busy prop flying

[subtle bison]

i love forced perspective lmao

you cant do this with normal youtube

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linustechtips-stretch-face-gif-14667307610009262438

[subtle bison]

view frustrum stuff update... speeeeeeed

there is now optional distance based scaling for objects, it should help with the addon be more selective of what needs to be adjusted

tl;dr more fps 🙂

still needs to be tuned but things are looking good

if i can find some good settings for all maps, ill hide all of these configuration options

will still keep the cvars tho ofc

good lord even the heaviest of maps are running at least 2x faster lmfao

im pretty sure im gpu bound

[subtle bison]

💪 🏎️:6️⃣ 4️⃣

good fuckin lord this perf is insane for how large this map is

x64 vs x32 🙂

fucking slaughterhouse

[subtle bison]

im having some frame pacing issues with the new optimizations so i cant push it just yet

[fallow mesa]

I added gmod.exe x64 to the nvidia app and the transformers worked

[fallow mesa]

I think 64 bits is better now

[potent agate]

what do you do to get the info in the bottom left?

[fallow mesa]

DLSS Indicator ?

[potent agate]

yeah

[fallow mesa]

I used DLSSTweaks

[drifting hinge]

Tactical Intervention rtx remix

[half viper]

@subtle bison how does gm fork fare with 64bits

[quiet scroll]

I had concepts of a plan to work on that gmod map but it’s 2am what the hell

[drifting hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[compact blaze]

this xm4 mod is peak omg

[lapis delta]

is this gmod?

[compact blaze]

Ya gmod

[lapis delta]

https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-the-rizzler-christian-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-3468410536510015644

tf?

[steel lark]

stanley parable ahh map

[compact blaze]

It is the Stanley parable

[steel lark]

🔥

love that game

[steel lark]

rtx remix light crashes way too often

[half viper]

HYPER REALISTIC BABY

🔥

[steel lark]

shoot that damn baby

[half viper]

all you need is normal maps

[steel lark]

https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-tsp-stanley-tsp-stanley-jesus-gif-9113117925949509447

why is stanley christian 😭

off topic sorry

[half viper]

what map tho

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/stanley-parable-gif-14902906008012607930

[fallow mesa]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2925489145

[willow fog]

day1 of x64

Things are going smoothly

[drifting hinge]

considerably evil

[willow fog]

Damn it

The hashes do be different

Sub optimal

[drifting hinge]

arc9 making me angrier every day

[willow fog]

on god

excuse me?

[drifting hinge]

im like King Von, arc9 turned me into a demon

[drifting hinge]

he doesnt know the method... urgghhh can yuo select the texture

[fallow mesa]

decal texture

[willow fog]

I'm busy with me wife rn

[drifting hinge]

joyless

[subtle bison]

bruh what did you break

[willow fog]

nuthin

[subtle bison]

it looks like u unmarked all of the textures

did u copy ur rtx.conf

[willow fog]

I WOULD LOVE TO TAG THE TEXTURES IF THE GAME LETS ME USE MY FUCKING MOUSE

[willow fog]

yes

[subtle bison]

dont

just use the one in the repo as the base to build on, it already has a lot of stuff tagged

[subtle bison]

you need to bind two keys to control r_drawvgui

[willow fog]

I have the one u gave with release

[subtle bison]

the newest or the old one

it has to be the one from the latest release

[willow fog]

yes

I downloaded the latest release

[subtle bison]

basically you pause your game with the ui disabled so you can control the runtime

we have no remix bridge to take over input

[subtle bison]

i swear gm_construct works perfectly fine with the rtx.conf provided

[fallow mesa]

I saw something

[subtle bison]

yes its the hdri editor, its my stop-gap solution to prevent it from being culled

it sits behind the player

under your feet

[willow fog]

what do I do with this thing?

[subtle bison]

💀

[fallow mesa]

It's probably not going to work

[subtle bison]

shader skyboxes dont work period

[willow fog]

so

what do I do

[subtle bison]

not use that entity?

you'd install the HDRI editor addon and use that instead

[willow fog]

oh waiiiiiiit

that's the wrtong one

I was wondering who came up with such nice graphic design on the thing

ok what do I do with this thing?

[subtle bison]

right click it, click HDRI editor

select a preset

[fallow mesa]

I'm waiting for an HDRI update

[willow fog]

nothing really happens

[subtle bison]

uhh the VTF thing didnt work out, the game was changing hashes each boot, so we have to stick to render targets

[subtle bison]

did you install the remix portion

in the readme

[willow fog]

I'm not thaaaaat stupid

I'm spamming right click in this video

[subtle bison]

hold the C button

💀

[willow fog]

oh

I should also clarify

idk how to play gmod

That's probably important info

[subtle bison]

i thought you played it a bunch

[fallow mesa]

💀

[willow fog]

I did

But I spent 80 hours making pbr arc9 mw

[subtle bison]

btw can someone else try construct other than me and uncle

cuz yeah its working for me just fine

[willow fog]

ahem

[subtle bison]

do you have your enhancements turned on

[willow fog]

yes

[subtle bison]

ok so select the 1st preset and enable the debug geometry view in remix

see if it looks like mine

should be the same purple color

[willow fog]

fucked up

[subtle bison]

that aint the cube

💀

[willow fog]

I was showing things

in general

[subtle bison]

we're rendering the world twice

you can disable the engine world rendering but you lose decals

[willow fog]

da cube

[subtle bison]

ok so your RT's are working correctly

show me the hdri folder in your remix mods directory

[willow fog]

\

[subtle bison]

hu

is it just textures 💀

[willow fog]

ye

s

[subtle bison]

you didnt install the remix mod correctly

it needs to look like this

[willow fog]

my brother

heere

[subtle bison]

ty

[willow fog]

I was in the textures folder

[subtle bison]

ok i want u to try something weird

[willow fog]

you know what

It might be the other mods

[subtle bison]

like addons?

[willow fog]

remix mods

[subtle bison]

other remix mods shouldnt break it

[willow fog]

hm

not that they work

u fucked up the hashes

[subtle bison]

nah the dec update broke it for both x64 and x32 lol

[willow fog]

ah

[subtle bison]

u just have a old gmod x32 install

[subtle bison]

with the HDRI cube spawned and a preset selected, change your Display Mode to something different other than fullscreen

and see if the skydome magically shows up

gezerz has to do this to get them to show up

me theory there is some kind of software in the background fucking up RT creation

[willow fog]

Oh my god

It magically crashed my game

[subtle bison]

💀

[fallow mesa]

yeah I don't know why

[subtle bison]

i would close RTSS or any other software that injects into the game

nvidia overlay, medal, whateveer

[willow fog]

pen15

[fallow mesa]

but the latest makes the game crash

[subtle bison]

yeah i get it too

its probably because of the CEF changes

[modern quest]

burrito has having a really hard time

[willow fog]

burrito is always having a really hard time

[modern quest]

you cannot circumvent me. i'm too powerful

[subtle bison]

try the 0.2 release and see if they work, CEF is broken but the game is more stable when changing resolutions

[fallow mesa]

🤣

[willow fog]

That's what my teacher told me before showing the piece of paper to my mom

[modern quest]

def a true story

[subtle bison]

im def gonna have to push a non-CEF version of 0.3

ugh

stupid engine patches 😭

[willow fog]

Okay

Here's what I'm going to do

I'll delete everything except for the big vpks

And then let steam download everything fresh

[subtle bison]

sure, but im about to push a non-cef 0.3 version, its way more stable but you lose some features

like no media player, workshop dupes, CEF menu

[modern quest]

||what is cef||

[subtle bison]

chromium embedded framework

gmod uses web tech to render most of its UI

[modern quest]

ah

[subtle bison]

remix and shadermodel 0 do not like it

[modern quest]

no wonder gmod's ui always felt horrible to me 😛

[subtle bison]

i heavily prefer native lua but unfortunately a lot of stuff depends on CEF that cant be reimplemented with lua/vgui

[modern quest]

i remember playing it back in like uh... 2010 or something? the UI back then was a lot better to me

[willow fog]

Man

BeamNG also faces the same issue

Great game

Shitty chromium overlay ui

[subtle bison]

so if i send the non-chrome version, you'll be fine with it?

its a dealbreaker for some people lol

[willow fog]

eh

[fallow mesa]

put in the CSS and the Javascript

[subtle bison]

hu

[willow fog]

Might as well use imgui at that point

[subtle bison]

ofc the moment i want to push a new release my upload speed goes to shit

ugh

that or github is having some issues

[fallow mesa]

are you going to release?

[subtle bison]

its the same 0.3 we have, just without CEF

less visual bugs and doesnt crash

its not replacing the existing one, just going alongside it

ill make notes in the readme

[willow fog]

unignoring directional lights causes crash?

[lapis delta]

ahem...

disable blur

[willow fog]

i know

This god damn thing just won't work

Angry

[subtle bison]

ye its a remix bug

[subtle bison]

we're about to find out why, hold your horses

[willow fog]

idk what's going on with the stupid thing

[subtle bison]

it works for like half the people here, and doesnt for the other half

my bet is on external software fucking up engine render targets

[modern quest]

ah

that'd be weird

[livid rapids]

The benevolent Discord overlay:

[subtle bison]

yea please for the love of god disable all overlay software

i cant make fixes for those

[half viper]

reminds me of how replacing gmod with portal rtx shaderstd files used to crash the game for me

until i reinstalled windows

[willow fog]

also this

[subtle bison]

omg this upload is gonna take 2 hours, what is going on at github hq, my internet is fine

yes we know

we dont know why other than arc9 chicanery

[willow fog]

opkay so

now fix it

[subtle bison]

no

[modern quest]

what is the way

[modern quest]

to use this

[subtle bison]

pls read the github not working section 💀

im gonna explode

[modern quest]

also is the grass supposed to be in the sky?

[livid rapids]

And this is why mwb clears

Didn't happen in 32bit btw

[modern quest]

yeah i'm betting i just screwed something up before

[subtle bison]

that looks like the 3d skybox lol

[subtle bison]

uhh that looks like issues from 0.2

[modern quest]

i'm on latest

[subtle bison]

HUH???

[willow fog]

The gun of low framerate

[fallow mesa]

[modern quest]

i mean this is my life

[subtle bison]

why are all of your textures untagged

[willow fog]

I know, I know

[modern quest]

i have no idea 😦

[subtle bison]

i swear to fucking god did anothet gmod update break texture hashes

please

no

[modern quest]

yeeep

no

[subtle bison]

i spent so many hours tagging textures

[modern quest]

there was an update today

[subtle bison]

FUCK

[modern quest]

i thought i had stopped it but it happened anyway apparently

[compact blaze]

Ik this probably sounds obvious but have you tried disabling the duel render scopes? Maybe that has smth to do with it

[modern quest]

i'm sorry CR 😦

[subtle bison]

AAAAA

[modern quest]

chessboard water

[subtle bison]

ok time to offer a downgrade version

🙂

this is the way

[modern quest]

the skybox was floating in the sky even before the update though btw

[subtle bison]

yea thats normal

idk if i can fix that, custom world renderer makes everything visible when its not supposed to be

in the name of preventing culling

[willow fog]

nope

[subtle bison]

@willow fog so basically, i cant really help you fix anything rn until i get this game update fixed 🙂

[willow fog]

You can kind of see the outline of the remix hand under the weird bug

[subtle bison]

ty facepunch

[compact blaze]

So no matter what you change with arc9’s settings it just does that no matter what?

[willow fog]

what happened?

[willow fog]

yep

[modern quest]

the game updated

[subtle bison]

game update broke hashes

AGAIN

[willow fog]

amazing

[subtle bison]

skurtty is also gonna lose it

[modern quest]

he lost it a while back iirc

https://steamdb.info/app/4000/history/?changeid=27219338 @subtle bison

[subtle bison]

its weird because we had multiple gmod updates in 2024 that did not break hashes

what the fuck are they changing in the rendering system

[fallow mesa]

what's new about the latest gmod?

[subtle bison]

it broke everything

[fallow mesa]

💀

[compact blaze]

Do you think facepunch even knows about this rtx remix gmod stuff yet?

[subtle bison]

xenthio has tried talking to facepunch people before

they dont seem to care for it

there is also a request on their github to add remix-specific cvars

but also ignored

we are on our own

[livid rapids]

That will never happen under rubat dictatorship

[willow fog]

check this out @subtle bison

[compact blaze]

Like they just didn’t reply or they replied passively aggressively about it and didn’t care

[subtle bison]

didnt reply and didnt care

[subtle bison]

what am i supposed to be seeing what's wrong

the untextured drawcall?

i cant do anything about that

[willow fog]

Yeah what is that

[subtle bison]

the white square

[willow fog]

Why are hands rendering on top of everything

[willow fog]

NO

The obvoius hands

my man

lmao

[subtle bison]

arc9 messes with render targets so remix gets confused

once again, i cant account for everything

you can complain about every single issue but im not gonna go out of my way to solve all of them for you

[willow fog]

Didn't happen in x32

[onyx ridge]

can you fix the issue where my gt 210 can't play the game with ray tracing

🥺

[subtle bison]

cool, i got bigger fish to fry, its just me working on this atm so give me some fucking patience

[willow fog]

I think cr is losing it

[modern quest]

no thanks to you lol

back off a bit

[willow fog]

I was just wondering why it's happening

I'm not demanding anything lol

[onyx ridge]

video games

[modern quest]

1. an update broke things
2. x64 is still experiencing issues because reasons

[willow fog]

You see

"because reasons" fills me with rage

[modern quest]

well

you can dig into the source code of the patch and figure it out then

[willow fog]

oh no

[subtle bison]

just use your old x32 build if everything is working

[willow fog]

I would if I could, honestly

[subtle bison]

did you remove it? 💀

[willow fog]

what

[subtle bison]

the x32 build

[willow fog]

um

no

but the gmod.exe patch broke it

[subtle bison]

then just go use that while i try to get this fixed?

oh

[willow fog]

so I didn't bother

I'll wait for whatever you're doing

so uh

[livid rapids]

https://commits.facepunch.com/r/garrysmod

[willow fog]

@subtle bison The reason for most problems today is the new update, right?

Broke hashes

[livid rapids]

Just so you know what's happening

[subtle bison]

yep

[willow fog]

In that case

Why is the water still being water?

[subtle bison]

wdym, the actual map water?

[willow fog]

yes

[subtle bison]

probably because i set it to a dev texture with no material

[willow fog]

ah

[subtle bison]

wow they really refactored some sutff

[modern quest]

😦

[subtle bison]

i think engine patches are fine, its just hashes that are screwed

[livid rapids]

And this is why you keep it away from your main install

[subtle bison]

idk of any way to get the old ones back, so yeah we'll have to start fresh

[livid rapids]

If sharing files is forbidden, you could patch via bsdiff or similar methods

[fallow mesa]

full bright

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2979380011&searchtext=

[subtle bison]

blueamulet has a patcher on their github page, i just provide the patched dlls in releases for the sake of simplicity on the user end

unless you mean using bsdiff for downgrading the game

[livid rapids]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

its probably better to support the new one, its harder to support two different hash systems at once

i tried this with hl2.exe gmod and gmod.exe gmod

didnt work out well

[livid rapids]

For the moment probably, but if things keep changing?

[subtle bison]

we'll probably do a N-1 thing

which in that case bsdiff or including the downgraded engine files in the archive

its hard to anticipate updates that break hashes and stuff

since they're usually rare

[fallow mesa]

why do some underwater maps have error?

[willow fog]

I chose a bad day to install 64 patches, didn't I?

[modern quest]

yes

worst day of all time

[livid rapids]

that's the map itself

[subtle bison]

it probably cant render a certain material with the lower shadermodel

its not remix or the compat mod

if it happens on a few more maps i can add some kind of removal for that in the water addon

[livid rapids]

Some people forget that it's a two sided plane, so they don't put the water material on the bottom side

[subtle bison]

that explains why everything gets super dark underwater

even when the world is rendering topside

maybe there is a way to fix/remove that

would look a lot nicer

so uhh

hashes are fine for me on the latest update???

this is with the noCEF version of the compat mod

oh right

[subtle bison]

its because we're using downgraded DLLS

[willow fog]

hmm

so noob question. My guy started flying

what do?

[subtle bison]

its gonna be a bit until i push a hotfix, i need to make some administrative changes

[willow fog]

I don't want to noclip

[modern quest]

is he a bird?

[willow fog]

Birds can't wield weapons

[modern quest]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-guns-gun-gif-22261382

[willow fog]

lol

[fallow mesa]

🤣

[willow fog]

I'm serious, y'all

how do I stop noclipping

[subtle bison]

V

[willow fog]

I figured it out the second you posted that lmao

[subtle bison]

or type kill in the console

[willow fog]

thx

[willow fog]

I could also press alt+f4

[fallow mesa]

so how did you noclip?

[willow fog]

I pressed v

[willow fog]

looks fine

[subtle bison]

i think those are fake volumetric cards?

[half viper]

what change specifically caused the fucked hashes?

[subtle bison]

something to the renderer, though the nonCEF version seems to be unaffected due to downgraded dlls

im gonna push it as a hotfix as we're gonna have to eventually switch to the new hashes

[willow fog]

why tf are people obsessed with nextbots

what do they even do

floating pngs

🔥

[willow fog]

hmm

[modern quest]

CR is deleting himself

[willow fog]

This reminds me

of rune classic

I wonder if that game works with remix

[modern quest]

because i'm bored i might do a full little overhaul of this one area of Skyrim just to make it look good. then never do the rest of the game

[subtle bison]

yes because i sometimes say something and then immediately figure something out
just how my train of thought works sometimes

[modern quest]

don't worry, mine too 😛

happened probably 7 times with the DLSS stuff

[subtle bison]

yall arent gonna believe this but

cef is also fine

i guess the dlls i provided broke something in the newest update.
repatching using the latest version of the game fixes hash issues

[fallow mesa]

I can update my gmod now

[subtle bison]

so yea hotfix time

not yet

i gotta push both archives

i think offering noCEF is a good option for fixing CEF-specific render issues

[modern quest]

yas

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/releases/tag/gmrtx64_0.3.1

please overwrite everything when installing 🙂

[modern quest]

even system32?

[subtle bison]

yeah

make sure to smash your pc with a hammer too

really gotta fit that RTX in there

[modern quest]

https://tenor.com/view/my-computer-trash-bin-erase-delete-elderly-gif-17041770

[livid rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-pc-destroy-pc-bash-the-pc-gif-14915322778488621950

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-doing-markiplier-markiplier-meme-meme-funny-gif-25198883

[subtle bison]

@willow fog see if this works

[livid rapids]

guessing this isn't intended

[subtle bison]

yeah no i was being lazy, there is some material files for the CEF menu

[willow fog]

any changes to the sky mod?

[modern quest]

reminderrr that if possible, please upload packages like this to VirusTotal and link it on the release (or here)

[subtle bison]

i forgot where they were so i threw it all in

[modern quest]

i have it scanning this time. will share link

[livid rapids]

But hey more spawnicons for me!

[subtle bison]

it should be working now that we know hashes are fixed

[willow fog]

so you just magically reverted the hashes?

[subtle bison]

if it doesnt, well then start turning off overlays or any software that would interfere

[modern quest]

if you consider that CR is magic, then this is possible

[modern quest]

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/4818f95d5dcea190ffc121dce8bec66171e9051510f01ce6970068bf13849e12

[subtle bison]

yes and no, the patched engine binaries were made for an older gmod ver, so they broke with the newest update

[subtle bison]

updated the release

hu

why is there 2 detections

oh its still analyzing

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/bard1a-sad-cat-sad-dark-dark-side-gif-11200514925795091536

That was a fucking roller coaster of a read LMAOOOOOO

[subtle bison]

🙂

hopefully all is well now

[quiet scroll]

Legit had a tear roll down my face at first

Awww poor CR, I appreciate all the work you’ve put into making gmodrtx great

[loud mural]

Right? lol

I like how we get screenspace shaders now

[subtle bison]

was that the big change 💀

[loud mural]

I think so yeah

[livid rapids]

not really a "big" change

the screenspace stuff was already there

[livid rapids]

Oh.

nvm

[subtle bison]

if gmod development ever ceases, i hope they open source the actual engine code. at valve's discretion of course

HDRI still works in the newest ver btw

CEF in my case

[modern quest]

i'm so smart

i figured out how to change resolutions

all is good with the latest patch, nice job 🙂

[subtle bison]

despite what i said to jessica, we prob need a launcher for changing resolutions

[modern quest]

very satisfying reflections

[modern quest]

a launcher in general would be great

[subtle bison]

yea maybe something in scope to xenthios

[modern quest]

(this is the first time i've seen moving water in Remix)

[subtle bison]

including hotloading the patches

[subtle bison]

its funny because source is the one animating it somehow

[loud mural]

I've been basically wishing that most of my life but I have sincere doubts that'll ever happen lol

[subtle bison]

yeah same

[modern quest]

refractions!

[subtle bison]

🙂

credit to whoever made the actual water replacement

it wasnt me

i think it was someone working with hl2rtx in like 2022 or something

[modern quest]

i thought it was skurtyy?

i barely ever kept up with gmod dev though soooo

[subtle bison]

noCEF working too

yipeee

[modern quest]

skybox is kinda fun to look at

[subtle bison]

you can turn it on in the main map with r_3dsky 1

though depending on the map, custom world renderer doesnt like it

[modern quest]

lol that's a ton better

it is causing some z fighting on the outer walls though

[subtle bison]

yeah i was about to say

i think construct is the only one to do that

CWR doesnt seem to cause it either

[loud mural]

I think I remember that guy, wasn't he showcasing it in that one Nova Prospekt map?

[subtle bison]

yes

[willow fog]

RAGE

[subtle bison]

remove your overlays

like all of them

and reboot the game

render targets are really fickle

[modern quest]

where do i find the hdri cube to spawn

[subtle bison]

if you're using the non-CEF version, you should be able to change window states

[subtle bison]

its a separate addon one sec

[meager oar]

wats the CEF mod

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_cube/blob/main/README.md

[modern quest]

RTX light crashes it immediately 😢

[subtle bison]

CEF is the main UI rendering framework gmod uses, it also allows media players to work

it causes render and stability issues, so i made a version that disables it

or rather uses the older engine patches that do that

[subtle bison]

yeah they're a race condition nightmare

im still trying to figure out why

[modern quest]

mm

similar issue to burrito. right clicking it doesn't work

[modern quest]

oh okay

[subtle bison]

do the window thing i mentioned

[modern quest]

doesn't work though

[subtle bison]

change from windowed to borderless or something

[willow fog]

Switvhing window mode is always an instant crash

[subtle bison]

even with the noCEF version?

[willow fog]

I have cef

idk what noncef is

or how to run it

[subtle bison]

its the same mod without the default gmod fancy UI

its in the same release page

just download it and overwrite everything

[modern quest]

it works in the main menu

but it didn't fix the hdri thing for me at all

[willow fog]

yeah I did that too

[subtle bison]

ok well nvm then

guess i need to find a new way to have stable hashes

[modern quest]

any logs we could send?

[subtle bison]

nah its not something easily debuggable

render targets arent fully deterministic, but i did a lot of work to make sure its the same hash on every game boot

it works for me, afair skurtty and a few other people

but i want it to work for everyone lol

the issue is that source loves messing up model hashes

[willow fog]

doing non cef now

[subtle bison]

im gonna try reinstalling the game on my end without steam cloud data, i wonder if its a configuration thing

[willow fog]

nothing

[subtle bison]

i guess stay tuned until i figure out a way to make it work for everyone

[willow fog]

propsurfing cube rn

[subtle bison]

ok i think i figured it out? 👁️

sure enough, with a clean config file, the HDRI sphere does not spawn

never been so glad to see something not work

wait nvm

can yall verify if these files exist in your garrysmod/data directory?

the HDRI cache files

[willow fog]

she kinda messed up

[subtle bison]

@willow fog especially u

[willow fog]

sorry I didn't notice

was busy with wife

[subtle bison]

yep that looks right

[subtle bison]

everything looks correct

😭

damn u source engine

[willow fog]

me rn

[modern quest]

[Water Replacer] Replaced texture: maps/gm_construct/gm_construct/water_13_1344_3584_32 with LightmappedGeneric shader
  New material settings:
    Shader: LightmappedGeneric
    BaseTexture:    dev/dev_monitor
[Water Replacer] Completed! Replaced 2 water textures with LightmappedGeneric shader.
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_255_200_150 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_255_200_150 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 255 200 150 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_255_200_150 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_255_200_150 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 255 200 150 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_150_200_255 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_150_200_255 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 150 200 255 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_100_100_150 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_100_100_150 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 100 100 150 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_255_100_40 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_255_100_40 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 255 100 40 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_200_80_100 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_200_80_100 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 200 80 100 
[HDRI Debug] Creating texture for hdri_cache_255_100_40 
[HDRI Debug] Loading cached texture: hdri_cache_255_100_40 
[HDRI Debug] Applied new color: 255 100 40 

when changing it

[subtle bison]

yea thats working right

its the render texture then

wait @modern quest im gonna have u check one more thing

gimme a sec

[modern quest]

i will never stop debugging things

[fallow mesa]

my HDRI is about to be fixed

[subtle bison]

enable the geometry hash debug view and click on each preset

[subtle bison]

do the colors match mine?

[modern quest]

yup all match

[subtle bison]

HUH???

then the RT's are working

why is the dome not spawning 😭

[modern quest]

[14:51:07.864] warn: Sky may not appear correct: sky intermediate format has been forced to HDR while the original sky is LDR and no HDR sky replacement has been found!

[subtle bison]

ah nah thats the engine complaining about no HDR suppoirt

seperate from the HDRI thingy

[modern quest]

that's from the remix log

[subtle bison]

ah, then its talking about the actual game sky

my skydome isnt treated as a sky that remix can see

i have a hunch github is breaking my USDA files, try replacing the ones in the hdri directory inside rtx-remix with these

and reboot the game

[modern quest]

well i think that might be the problem

there were no USDA files there

[subtle bison]

👁️

[modern quest]

i followed the instructions exactly as the page says

[subtle bison]

maybe i fucked up on my install instructions

[fallow mesa]

[subtle bison]

OH

[modern quest]

so like this, right?

[subtle bison]

GITHUB IS TREATING A TREE OF FOLDERS AS ONE

OMG

[subtle bison]

yes

[willow fog]

I REMEMBER

[subtle bison]

i swtg if that fixes it, its all going on google drive

[modern quest]

yup

all worky now

[subtle bison]

AAAAA

[modern quest]

just zip it up and upload it as a release instead

it won't interfere

[willow fog]

GITHUB WOULD COMPLETELY RUIN OUR NFSU2 FILES

[subtle bison]

im gonna brutally murder github with hammers

[fallow mesa]

what do I have to do?

[subtle bison]

i think you already have yours correct @fallow mesa

iirc

[modern quest]

it is amazing just how much an HDRI can change the way even vanilla assets look

[subtle bison]

natural emission my beloved

[modern quest]

vanilla game working exactly as intended 😛

[willow fog]

no issues here

[modern quest]

i know it's from the patches and settings btw

that's one massive tree though

damn

[willow fog]

don't look at that

[modern quest]

and that's actually kinda scary and ominous

interestingly though having an HDRI improves base DLSS's ghosting issues

nice work 🙂

[willow fog]

(Didn't work for me)

[modern quest]

it's like that?

[modern quest]

well i think i've finally met someone more cursed than me with software issues

[willow fog]

computers hate me

[modern quest]

i feel your pain 😦

[willow fog]

can you show me your game's graphics settings?

[modern quest]

@quiet scroll do your modded maps with the replacement assets work on x64?

[willow fog]

nope

[subtle bison]

dont change any graphics settings, the autoexec does it for you

[quiet scroll]

Yeah! Hashes match for both 32bit and 64 There’s only a few maps though, most of my mods are on the hl2 exe

[subtle bison]

@willow fog @fallow mesa have the same issue, something on ya'lls PCs is breaking RT creation

[willow fog]

The sky doesn't show up in hash view

[subtle bison]

ye cuz remix spawns it

[willow fog]

why it ain't?

[subtle bison]

because your RT's most likely have different hashes

[willow fog]

my BUTT

So anyways

[subtle bison]

@willow fog see if your colors match mine

[willow fog]

Let's try without addons

[subtle bison]

addons can break it but its rare

you still need the required addons enabled tho

[willow fog]

Worth a shot

the rage consumes me

where are the addons stored?

[subtle bison]

well until you verify the geometry hash colors are/arent the same, there isnt much i can do for you

[willow fog]

for the cube?

[subtle bison]

nah disable them ingame

[willow fog]

right

[fallow mesa]

In debug, I don't see a change

[subtle bison]

do your HDRI cache files look like mine?

they're in garrysmod/data

[willow fog]

here r mine again

[subtle bison]

@willow fog did you watch the video i sent?

let me know if your colors match mine

[willow fog]

lemme check

[subtle bison]

@fallow mesa something is breaking RT's on your setup

i wish i knew why lol

[fallow mesa]

I checked windows def

nothing

[modern quest]

@quiet scroll it's working in a lot of ways, but some things are def a bit weird lol

[fallow mesa]

decal

[subtle bison]

that looks like a detail texture

try ignoring it in the runtime

[willow fog]

weird

[quiet scroll]

Ahh yeah a decal, I try deleting them in the toolkit but it’s kinda hit or miss if it shows in runtime

[subtle bison]

lol same issue as @fallow mesa

at least its somewhat reproducable

if i only knew what the cause was

[modern quest]

well then there's this unfortunately

i should probably just run this on 32 bit lol

[subtle bison]

so just to be sure, both of you dont have any type of clipping software, overlays, or anything that would inject into the game?

[subtle bison]

another detail texture

you can faintly see it

[modern quest]

mhm

[subtle bison]

its not a x64 exclusive issue

i just didnt ignore every instance of detail textures lol

[willow fog]

so uh

what now?

[modern quest]

how can i disable the gun model and menu overlays?

oh okay

[quiet scroll]

Ahhhh what I should do is go around and tag them in an rtx.conf and ship it on the next release

[fallow mesa]

of course

[subtle bison]

bind r_drawvgui 1 and r_drawvgui 0 to two different keys, press the one that sets zero and then pause your game and use the remix menu

[subtle bison]

do you have any software that i mentioned just above?

[willow fog]

nope

All overlays are disabled

[subtle bison]

any windows specific settings like hardware gpu scheduling or game bar?

idfk, this is definitely beyond the game

[quiet scroll]

You unzipped before installing, right?

[subtle bison]

their hashes arent changing when changing presets which tell me a cache issue

but they both verified the files exist in the directory and look correct

so yeah im at a loss

[willow fog]

Uh

[fallow mesa]

I'll try another machine again

[subtle bison]

im gonna make a AIO archive just to send here

[willow fog]

Try to upload the whole sky mod directly to discord as a zip

Minus the textures

[subtle bison]

nah im gonna send it all as one file

gotta leave out any chance of error

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hb-ybUaCEGJA7XF4VcEyulTGrOWLbgFA/view?usp=sharing

pls

PLS work

🙏

[willow fog]

downloading

[subtle bison]

pls nuke the old shit out of orbit pls

[willow fog]

replace

[subtle bison]

ye ig

[willow fog]

fucking

cappie ain't working with remix and it's making me angry

[subtle bison]

it prob uses a specific shader to render her

a lot of anime models do that

[willow fog]

yeah the toon shader thingy

[subtle bison]

you can try ignoring the material but idk

it works for some, it doesnt for others

[willow fog]

Tried

The other crazy mita model works but I don't want it

[subtle bison]

you can manually edit the vmt if you're desperate

[fallow mesa]

what is that?

[subtle bison]

the entire addon

in one file

[willow fog]

I kinda am lol

alright moment of truth

[subtle bison]

oh shit i just realized i think i sent a wip ver

[willow fog]

well

It doesn't work anyways

[fallow mesa]

doesn't work either

[subtle bison]

yea it doesnt

oops

[subtle bison]

this addon is gonna be the death of me

[half viper]

xwhats this

[subtle bison]

pain

[fallow mesa]

I'm not sure windows insider

[subtle bison]

nvm that was the release one

[willow fog]

I'll fix my wife in the meantime

[subtle bison]

if the hashes still dont change when changing presets

i got no fuckin clue

[fallow mesa]

I haven't needed it yet

[subtle bison]

modern gmod stores it in the steam workshop folder, seperately from the game

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\workshop

[willow fog]

what appid?

[subtle bison]

iirc 220?

idk

[subtle bison]

yep this works for me

on a squeaky clean x64 install

well ill continue on finding a new way to get this working

but who knows how long until i find something that works

so dont expect anything for a while lol

[willow fog]

WHAT

ah whatever

I'm tired of computers

I'll go lie down

Fuck this shit

I hate computers

[fallow mesa]

you're not the only one who is 😄

[subtle bison]

the text being weird is normal

the actual media player works

as long as you're using the CEF version of the compat mod

[fallow mesa]

there seems to be a white filter

[subtle bison]

make sure to use my rtx.conf

there is a texture inbetween the media player the model that is hard to ignore in the runtime

[fallow mesa]

[onyx ridge]

could you not use a toggle

[subtle bison]

idk does that exist?

[onyx ridge]

i think it does

automatically switches between 0 and 1 when triggered iirc

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Toggle

(https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Bind#BindToggle)

[steel lark]

that's very cool

this works bind o "toggle net_graph 0 1; toggle cl_drawhud 0 1" 🤑

[subtle bison]

sweet

[steel lark]

it prints the command every time??? 😭

[loud mural]

It's 4000 for gmod

[subtle bison]

why are render targets the only way to deterministically render textures in source

VTFs work but the hashes change every single game boot

im gonna lose it

i might have to render the editor cube with an entirely custom system at this rate

source material system is evil

[subtle bison]

wow this might actually be viable,

entirely custom mesh and texture rendering

hash is stable between boots

now to actually fix png file loading

[tame crane]

idk why the hell its being like this bru

missing textures

like invisible

not on 64 bit branch

[crystal storm]

How did you set it up, manually or using skurt's easy installer?

[tame crane]

manually

[crystal storm]

I'm sure someone here knows more about troubleshooting the manual install but in case no one gets back to you try the easy installer https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX

[tame crane]

should i uninstall the manual way?

[crystal storm]

If I were doing it I would just start fresh and reinstall GMOD, after that you just run the easy installer and it does almost everything for you minus a couple console commands or tick boxes in the options menu

The easy installer also makes a separate folder for Gmod RTX so it ends up a lot cleaner

[tame crane]

there is a factory reset in gmod files

[crystal storm]

I've never used it so I don't know, I think that clears all your addons and stuff? Not sure lol

[subtle bison]

ye it only clears your addons

[tame crane]

ohh

[subtle bison]

any external stuff is perma

[tame crane]

used auto install

lq textures

[crystal storm]

Some maps may be broken and addons can also conflict, try playing gm_construct_rtx and unsubbing from all your addons (you can add them to a collection to resub after testing) and if it still has issues then something is likely broken

[tame crane]

how do i hide playermodel

bec

i disabled all mods execept for the ones that i need

[earnest yew]

rtx_psudoplayer

[tame crane]

yoo thx

but graphics its kind of broken i guess

its slightly

[tame crane]

broken pupiles

[subtle bison]

they are known to not work

there is no fix atm

[willow fog]

Got ur skies shining yet?

[subtle bison]

nah it's gonna be a while as i said before