Garry's Mod

[subtle bison]

other players with remix can

I think

but yeah they're completely invisible to rasterized players since its rendering in remix and not in gmod

implemented a clever but also kinda jank solution to prevent HDRIs from getting culled

i added a menu option that spawns the editor on map load below the player

you can hide it with remix using hide texture instance so remix doesnt completely ignore it

this solution also prevents the skydome from warping when you're too far from the origin

[winter radish]

perfect, no raster players on my Gmod server /j

now create a Steam Deck preset (another /j)

[subtle bison]

lol definitely jank

you dont ever see it in 1st person since i lowered it far more, but you can definitely catch the shadow

[quiet scroll]

omg that's geniusssssss

[subtle bison]

re-working the UI

no more color wheel

just presets since it's infinitely easier to manage this

[subtle bison]

uhh

skybox getting a lil freaky

[keen rivet]

what the spruce

[subtle bison]

the weirdest part is that all of the map lights are stable

even with a really low value for the rtx light updaters

the only loss is culling nearby the player, but that's still better than out of the camera frustrum lol, might ship 256/256 as the default

[keen rivet]

awesome as fuck

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-mr-knight-khonshu-steven-grant-spin-gif-25385259

[lapis delta]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[lament quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

[lapis delta]

this is so me

[subtle bison]

we got an official spawner icon

also new UI is out

just download the latest changes from github

https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_cube

there is still only 4 HDRIs so ill have to figre out what other 4 i should add

im open for suggestions

[fallow mesa]

🥲

[quiet scroll]

HUGEEEEEE, perrrhappps dis one? https://polyhaven.com/a/sunset_fairway I haven't seen the others you've added yet but I thought the sunset was pretty

[drifting hinge]

What's new in the world of gmod remix

[quiet scroll]

did you move the data folder into garrysmodrtx/garrysmod?

oh wait, the hdri's are gone

[fallow mesa]

yes

[lapis delta]

wait, default skybox is working now?

[quiet scroll]

oooo this shit sucks I fear, I'll leave the weapon mods to CR LMAOOOOO

the emissive on the pulse rifle circle thingy lmaoooo

[drifting hinge]

the cirlce thingy my beloved

[quiet scroll]

i won't put it on moddb but here's the weapon mod if anyone wants it :3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/131VUnRZ1a6j5HX8Uu-5hzm3ZEbhBTTqY/view?usp=sharing

[lapis delta]

for rea l?

[drifting hinge]

the zip bomb in question

[lapis delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1144638035661684817/1228004757193494559/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[quiet scroll]

dude look at the fucking sky 💀

[lapis delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077030283792097420/1293242925995524146/togif-9.gif

and there is no more culling, right?

on 64bit

[subtle bison]

hu

im gonna guess you clicked all preset buttons?

[subtle bison]

ye i fixed it

[subtle bison]

yea also fixed

ill try to get a new x64 release pushed out today

its in a good state rn

[lapis delta]

YAAAAY!

[onyx ridge]

include all of the ones blender has by default

[subtle bison]

since when did blender include HDRIs

[lament quartz]

What abt the 2 night ones I asked for a while, could add thoes

[subtle bison]

the ones i already added?

[lament quartz]

Yea

[subtle bison]

they're still there

[lament quartz]

Oh I thought they replaced 2 defaults or something

[subtle bison]

oh ye they still do

ill fix it

[lament quartz]

[subtle bison]

im gonna have to start working on the import tool again, there is no way im gonna be able to accommodate everyone's favorite HDRIs

[onyx ridge]

i think it has like 6 used for the material preview

they call come from polyhaven iirc but i can't remember the names

[subtle bison]

fixed the order of HDRIs and also added numerical values, should make it easier to discern which is what

still working on getting the other 4 HDRIs added, will take longer

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll

[drifting hinge]

[fallow mesa]

Your HDRI is working?

[subtle bison]

ye, why is it broken for yall

i didnt change hashes or anything

[quiet scroll]

EEEEEEEEE thank uuuuuu It’s so beautiful

[subtle bison]

looks even better on a map where you can see the horizon

[fallow mesa]

It's like I've been hanging out

[quiet scroll]

I’ll check when I get back home, idk why it wasn’t working, I could’ve installed it wrong

[subtle bison]

the only thing that changed was the UI

[quiet scroll]

Scraaanch u try it yet?

[subtle bison]

btw instead of changing resolutions to fix the HDRI, try mat_reloadallmaterials @fallow mesa

for some reason everyone is getting different RT results when clicking presets

[drifting hinge]

try what yet mr goober

[quiet scroll]

the pretty hdris

[drifting hinge]

idk i havent played gmodrtx in some time

im busy editing maps!!!!1 uhrhrhhhh

[quiet scroll]

EDITING MAPS? oh shit scranch cookin something

[drifting hinge]

nah nah lol just an edit of ttt_deserted_house for private use xd

you should totally remix that map btw

[fallow mesa]

not working😅

[subtle bison]

does it work with the older version?

also does the HDRI editor change to different color hues now when you click a preset?

(with the latest changes from github)

i had to pre-cache the other 4 presets

[subtle bison]

ye you need to update the files

delete those and replace them with the ones from github

hmm i notice the 1st 4 have alpha, i should remove that

its gonna break hashes but i can fix it pretty quickly

[subtle bison]

ye looks fine now

try it again, but you'll probably still run into the same issue of having to change ur video res

[drifting hinge]

weird ahh first frame

[fallow mesa]

Fg

[drifting hinge]

Fg

[subtle bison]

well its changing colors correctly

so yea the hash is still different for you, and i have no idea why

are you using the autoexec.cfg and launch bat from the x64 release?

[fallow mesa]

I used 32bit

[subtle bison]

its the same launch params

only difference is exe name

skurtyys script should have the same stuff iirc

ill try messing with it on 32-bit in a bit

[subtle bison]

MOON

[lapis pewter]

not sure if I'm late to the party, but blender has robust hdri handling:

[subtle bison]

hmm ill have to try that out

thanks for the suggestion

[lapis pewter]

the thing with ray reconstruction going nuts on the bright spots is not solved right

[subtle bison]

yeah but that's because the HDRI is clipping, its gone when using my steps you replied to

as seen here

we are being examined 👁️

[lament quartz]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

[drifting hinge]

evil lights

[half viper]

light moves as you move or

[subtle bison]

ye, but you have the option of spawning the cube seperately from the player

so it doesnt follow, but the paralax will look weird if you're too far from the origin

the sphere is so big it doesnt really look like its moving when i move the HDRI editor across the map

but you can see it if you look closely

[lapis pewter]

seems that it\s really hard to get a "foggy" scene with volumetrics and still be able to see the sky

[subtle bison]

yeah volumetrics break it for whatever reason

@quiet scroll https://github.com/sambow23/hdri_cube?tab=readme-ov-file#installation

updated the HDRI pack, its not really a curated one but it fills all 8 slots

also updated the guide

hopefully they'll work for you now

[lapis pewter]

it's probably because there's so much atmosphere between the camera and the skybox. If it were possible to have for example only ground level fog, or atmospheric density falloff with altitude, it would work better i think

[subtle bison]

that or controllable volumetric volumes kinda like blender eevee

[lapis pewter]

ya

[subtle bison]

they could probably do that with the remix api as well

[lapis pewter]

thanks for the hdris, for some reason when I use them i don't get that nice strong light and hard shadows

[subtle bison]

do you have NEE cache disabled?

[lapis pewter]

i will check

i dont think so

[subtle bison]

also how did you import everything to this game

best way is to use a text editor to change mesh and prim hashes to an object in your capture

messing with it in the toolkit has caused a lot of issues like this

[lapis pewter]

NEE cache is enabled, i disabled it and it looks the same

[subtle bison]

it needs to be enabled

also lets move to another channel

maybe your game?

[lapis pewter]

I have a huge sphere around the level which is in the base game and gets captured, i put the hdri name in the usda file

ok

[subtle bison]

do you have a link? i cant find it in the remix-projects

or maybe just @ me whereever you wanna discuss it

[lapis pewter]

https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1313627595815911448

@subtle bison https://discord.gg/KMSrx4gu

i can show you on voice and video

[subtle bison]

got it

ty

nah i cant do vc atm

[lapis pewter]

kk

[subtle bison]

so with x64 with no workshop addons other than niknaks enabled, HDRIs still seem to work

so i think should work for everyone else?

[willow fog]

That goes hard

[subtle bison]

well nvm about releasing a new build today, while displacements are fixed, blended textures look like this

i have a way to fix this but its gonna take a while.

[onyx ridge]

[subtle bison]

im a liar

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/releases/tag/gmrtx64_0.2

🙂

installation is a lot easier now that i located the config file that controls physgun halos and spawn effects

[keen rivet]

Damn you don't have RealCSM installed this is criminal...

[earnest yew]

is it the mesh

or the actual textures

[subtle bison]

its treating both textures as two meshes, so they're overlapping

best way to fix this is baking them at runtime with a Render Target and caching the result

[lapis pewter]

Hey CR I Figured out how to make a skysphere that works,
Make two geospheres with reasonably high polycount
scale one down a tad
merge them into one object^
invert the normals
bob's your uncle!

[earnest notch]

not even swamp cineema?

[lapis pewter]

maybe it'd be ever better with 3!
More than 3 might be getting carried away

[quiet scroll]

IT'S SO PRETTYYYYY

[modern quest]

lmao at first i thought that was a real pic

[lapis pewter]

wowzers

[lapis pewter]

I've done some more skysphere testing and i think its heavily influenced by just how extremely large you can make it, try making it 10x larger CR 🙂

[lapis pewter]

actually i take that back, doesnt seem to help

looked good in editor, not so much in game

[subtle bison]

so i take it HDRIs now work properly?

[quiet scroll]

lol yeah I must’ve installed it wrong 😅 the toolkit needs skybox support cuz this shit is literally game changing

[subtle bison]

popo was somehow able to replace the sky

i think whatever tool he used was able to forcefully change hashes

but ngl i prefer this skydome system since it can be controlled in a lot of ways vs a static skybox

[lapis pewter]

ahh ok i think i figured it out, the skydome has to have heaps of polygons

low resolution mesh is mushy shadows

[subtle bison]

hu

did you enable smooth normals?

mine is pretty low-poly but looks fine

you cant even see seams in the dome

[lapis pewter]

yea

yours is mega high resolution

mega

[subtle bison]

hu i dont remember subdividing it that much

[lapis pewter]

its 500k tris lol

[subtle bison]

[lapis pewter]

polys rather

[subtle bison]

that is something that i wish i didnt learn today

🤣

[lapis pewter]

doesnt seem to make any difference to performance if its a replacement mesh

[subtle bison]

the HDRI's themselves dip perf a bit though

at least on my 2080

[lapis pewter]

im gonna make one with 5 million

hold my tea

[fallow mesa]

I can't open gmod after installing rtx-remix/mods

[subtle bison]

hu, i dont include any rtx mods in that

[fallow mesa]

I installed the hdri later

[subtle bison]

so when you delete the hdri folder inside rtx-mods\mods, the game starts up fine?

[fallow mesa]

yes

[subtle bison]

uhhhhh

i dont even know where to start with that

[fallow mesa]

It appears to be all the mods that are in rtx-remix/mods

[subtle bison]

i would nuke that gmod install from orbit

and if that doesnt work, reinstall your video drivers, or even windows

i've never heard of remix mods crashing the game

[fallow mesa]

I'll try another machine

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll can you test as well?

see if any rtx mods crash a fresh x64 install

[quiet scroll]

yeah! lemme check

[lapis pewter]

yep 5mil poly skysphere gives Kris/P shadows

[subtle bison]

hows the fps lol

[lapis pewter]

same

btw your skysphere is 2 spheres, one over the other.. makes no difference, you can just remove one and double the polys in the other and u get sharper shadows for no extra polys

[subtle bison]

they seem pretty sharp to me already lol

shadow softness is more affected by the penumbra effect like real life (the beginning near the object is sharper, but gets softer as it gets further away)

[subtle bison]

i dont think I need to modify the sphere

[subtle bison]

can you show me the contents of this folder

[potent agate]

for some reason I don't have any of the extra stuff?

[subtle bison]

the hdri mod is separate

[potent agate]

that would explain it

[subtle bison]

i would try redownloading both archives, the github release and the remix textures

i really dont know why they're crashing the game, remix shouldnt even be loading it until you spawn the HDRI anyway

[stable scarab]

would dlss 4 ray reconstruction force better resolution on reflections?

[quiet scroll]

[winter radish]

I’m going to love upscaling this from 360p

[potent agate]

where can I find it?

I couldn't find it

[subtle bison]

its linked at the bottom of the release

[potent agate]

Ah

I will say though that this is a LOT more stable with a lot of my addons enabled

[subtle bison]

yeah hopefully me and xenthio can get some of the last few quriks worked out, the stability of x64 makes remix much more enjoyable

[fallow mesa]

I'm waiting

[potent agate]

so uh, black sky?
(hdr making it 10x brighter as usual)

[subtle bison]

turn off volumetrics if you have them on

[potent agate]

still black

[quiet scroll]

make sure you installed it right

[subtle bison]

did you download the other part, the actual HDRI textures?

[potent agate]

yes

[subtle bison]

so your contents look like this? ^

[potent agate]

pretty much

[subtle bison]

does anything change when clicking different presets?

[potent agate]

the indirect lighting on the cube does

[subtle bison]

hu, the cube changes colors because its loading a different texture, but there shouldnt be any kind of IL changes

maybe try disabling all addons except for what's needed in the guide. The hashes are definitely working since your sky changes, but remix isnt seeing the textures

if that doesnt work, delete the textures folder and redownload the textures archive

[potent agate]

fair

[subtle bison]

ill try deleting my local copy and installing the ones from gdrive and see if i run into the same issues

still working for me

[lapis pewter]

actually that sphere i sent has wrong scale

[subtle bison]

this is on a fresh x64 install with no addons (other than what's in the guide) as well

[potent agate]

probably my addons then

at least one of them

[subtle bison]

you can try it on x32 if you want, it'll work there too

if you have a anti virus, i'd also make sure its not trying to flag any of the dds files

i dont think they'd ever trigger one but it'd worth mentioning

[potent agate]

and now gmod refuses to boot???
all I did was close it

[subtle bison]

hu

make sure there isnt a lingering gmod.exe in task manager

[potent agate]

yeah there's nothing, let me close and reopen steam

[subtle bison]

you might have the same issue as @fallow mesa , if your game still doesnt open, delete the hdri folder inside rtx-remix\mods

if it opens then, something really weird is going on

[potent agate]

now it works

[subtle bison]

deleting the hdri folder or after restarting steam?

[potent agate]

restarting steam

[lapis pewter]

fixed

[potent agate]

time to see if hdri works

and it crashed as soon as I loaded in lol

[subtle bison]

[potent agate]

gonna try removing hdri

[subtle bison]

if that fixes it i might have an idea

[potent agate]

yep I loaded in this time

[subtle bison]

💀

ok

im repacking the HDRIs

oml

wait

i think i know whats also causing the other issues

i had similar issues rolling out the HDRI editor the 1st time, and its because git messes up remix USD/USDA files

im gonna include the entire remix mod as one single zip file and we'll see if it fixes both issues

[quiet scroll]

Ooooo I double clean installed and can confirm, sometins wrong

[subtle bison]

dw i think this will fix it

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-you-did-chaos-explosion-explode-gif-3259515045054386931

moment

[potent agate]

lol

[quiet scroll]

typical gmodrtx development

[subtle bison]

ok @potent agate @fallow mesa @quiet scroll
try this

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y_VGJPOsFfe0kgXDkQ240P0nB8LLYEQP/view?usp=sharing

delete the old hdri folder

replace it with this one

i hope this works 😭

[potent agate]

crashed

[subtle bison]

huh??

they work for me wtf 😭

[potent agate]

gmod will not open for me now

[subtle bison]

i even downloaded the archive

[quiet scroll]

hmmm lemme see if I can pinpoint it, even if a mod is like totally scuffed idk why that would make a game not start......atleast i think

o wait i'm modding the original gmod folder, uhhhh lemme try a separate folder install

[subtle bison]

i got another idea

this is just the base mod, no HDRI textures

install this like normal, but DO NOT add the HDRI textures

just see if the game opens

[fallow mesa]

everything that's in rtx-remix/mods makes a crash game

[subtle bison]

if it does, when you spawn the HDRI editor, does the sky turn gray?

[subtle bison]

so even non HDRI stuff?

[fallow mesa]

yes

[potent agate]

another crash

[subtle bison]

ok

[potent agate]

seems like the mod is the cause

if I remove the mod files and leave the textures it loads

[quiet scroll]

weird, it's not exclusively the hdri mod but yeah, any mod in the mods folder causes it not to launch

this might be a remix ticket issue

[subtle bison]

yeah im getting it now too

wtf

this was working on a fresh install when i updated the guide

idek what could change between then and now

[quiet scroll]

i blame garry newman, that man woke up one day and nuked an entire community he doesn't even know exists

[subtle bison]

nothing weird in the remix logs

it just silently dies

whatever this means

i fixed it

💀

i guess dxvk-remix got corrupted at one point

reinstalling it makes it boot again

ill fix the release archive

omg

its even worse

i forgot to include the usd folder that comes with dxvk-remix

no wonder why it was crashing on rtx-mods

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

sorry guys

[lament quartz]

I got called in by the skull emojis

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll @potent agate @fallow mesa
https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/releases/download/gmrtx64_0.2/gmrtx64_0.2.1.zip

just overwrite everything, it should work now

[potent agate]

alright

yeah, idk why the light itself doesn't appear but it works

[subtle bison]

is this normal construct or construct_rtx

[potent agate]

rtx

[subtle bison]

are you using the rtx.conf provided?

[potent agate]

yep

Number 1 has lighting

[subtle bison]

weird, im using the same one and its working

[potent agate]

yeah only number 1 has lighting for me

[subtle bison]

so even the night ones dont illuminate anything?

[potent agate]

it doesn't seem to cover everything though?

[subtle bison]

yea i think the 3d skybox on this maps messes it up

try flatgrass

also do you have directional lights ignored? they interfere with the HDRI

[potent agate]

I do

works on flatgrass

[subtle bison]

weird, i know its broken on normal construct but gm_flatgrass_rtx was fine

[potent agate]

but yeah everything is working now

very very cool

[subtle bison]

ty you all for testing

btw let me know if these error out when spawning them

im running into a race condition where on some game boots they fail to spawn correctly

only way to fix them is restarting the game

[potent agate]

not sure why there's a circle around it

hdr

please

[subtle bison]

lower the radius

you can adjust it by right clicking it in the context menu

[potent agate]

I also crashed when I tabbed out lol

[subtle bison]

yea i still dont get the alt-tab crashes. did you adjust any video settings prior?

[potent agate]

no

[subtle bison]

do they happen in x32 as well?

[subtle bison]

afaik the alt-tab crash issues are a source engine staple lol

[potent agate]

not from what I remember

[subtle bison]

its already there, that button is only if you have autospawn disabled

click open editor and select a preset, its in the context menu, hold C

[potent agate]

spawned another light and the game froze

and now it crashed

[subtle bison]

hu

rtx lights have crashed my game in the past when i started working on them but I thought i fixed it, they dont cause crashes for me anymore at least

[subtle bison]

hold C

[fallow mesa]

😅

[subtle bison]

lemme guess, if you change your resolution, it fixes it?

[potent agate]

this time I got a bunch in before a crash

[fallow mesa]

yes

[subtle bison]

there is something unique about your windows install/drivers that is breaking it

[subtle bison]

no lua errors at least, you see those when shit is about to hit the fan

[potent agate]

true

[subtle bison]

ill keep looking into the lights i guess, though i cant reproduce the crashing

but i guess ignore them for now, they're more of a novelty anyway

[potent agate]

fair

also there's a thing where my mouse keeps flickering on the screen when it shouldn't be visible

[subtle bison]

yeah i think it's because remix isnt designed to be used without the bridge

i get it too

[potent agate]

ah, just wanted to see if it was known or not

[subtle bison]

we probably need to open a github ticket for it

[drifting hinge]

oh boyyy hellooo gmod rtx remixers

[fallow mesa]

64bit gmod performance
.

RTX View Frustrum off

RTX View Frustrum on

[keen rivet]

make sure the world scale in remix settings isn't set to some bonkers tiny value

[earnest yew]

let's just rewrite gmod from the ground up

[quiet scroll]

@subtle bison found a map where the water's the floor in some areas, I extracted it with gmad.exe https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302364964

[lapis delta]

heaven

[subtle bison]

you need to adjust the view frustrum settings per map for best performance, refer to the release readme

[quiet scroll]

Am I trippin, why's pseudoplayer acting all weird

[drifting hinge]

common pseudoplayer L

[quiet scroll]

@keen rivet did something change with the rtx_pseudoplayer_unique_hashes 1? it's never acted like dis before

i thought it copied the playermodel texture hash and just renamed it to something else and then we tagged it - but now it's assigning world textures

[subtle bison]

its probably a render target issue

i have the same issue with the hdri editor when adding new presets

[quiet scroll]

can't have shit with gmod rtx

I just found the perfect map to work on next

[drifting hinge]

👁️

[keen rivet]

I didn't change a thing

[livid rapids]

can the cursor flicker on 64bit be fixed?

[subtle bison]

as said before, a github issue probably needs to be made for dxvk-remix

we're pretty much the only ones using remix without the bridge lol

its also why the remix menu doesn't handle input correctly

[rich glen]

this looks so cool! (screenshot taken on 64 bit gmod)

[subtle bison]

man my brain thought this was real on a smaller screen

[rich glen]

fr

[winter radish]

I'll try it someday

when 64-bit is updated

[subtle bison]

it is

but they also work on 32-bit

its not x64 exclusive

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/releases/tag/gmrtx64_0.2

[winter radish]

I know, I just like 64 bit

[rich glen]

this is normal, right? (i am on 64 bit gmod)

[subtle bison]

yea look at the not working stuff section in the release readme

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[peak rover]

what is the differnce between normal gmod and x64???

[winter radish]

64-bit is better CPU wise if I recall correctly

Which leads to performance gains

[peak rover]

oh so just for few extra frame

[keen rivet]

So i dunno if i'm like stupid or something but

cant i just call a function and set a breakpoint instead of doing the fukcing stupid shit i was doing before to find a function

lmao

[subtle bison]

lmk if this works 🙂

[lapis pewter]

Yo CR,
This blender node setup works well for HDRIs
And its easy to reduce the "sky" brightness while keeping the sun as bright as possible:

[inner cloak]

is there a place to download the rtx remix lights api for gmod?

[lapis pewter]

just set it up like that in the compositor and hit F12

[inner cloak]

or is it exclusive to the 64bit gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

its exclusive to x64, it requires the binary module to communicate with remix

[inner cloak]

ohh okay

is it worth doing?

[subtle bison]

ill try it when i can, though the goal isnt to reduce the brightness of the HDRIs to get them working, just lowering the precision just enough to prevent clipping

[subtle bison]

its more of a novelty, they look visually identical to ingame lights but dont actually depend on the engine to light anything

[lapis pewter]

that\s what it does, it clips the highlight to the max remix can handle without artifacting, leaving the rest of the image untouched (unless you want to touch it)

[subtle bison]

they're unstable as well due to race conditions i've yet to fix/identify

[inner cloak]

oh okay interesting

[lapis pewter]

in the screenshot i reduced the remaining sky brightness to 25% just cos thats what i wanted at that time, but of course you don't have to do that

[inner cloak]

thats cool, good to know they dont function any different

we really need a wiki lol

[subtle bison]

for sure, though it would have to be later down the line when x64 is in a good enough state to replace x32

its close, but the few remaining issues are very difficult to debug and troubleshoot

so it could be a while

[lapis pewter]

if you look in HDRView you can inspect the peak/avg/median luminance values in the hdris and it looks like remix has a fit at values over around 140ish

[subtle bison]

definitely an easier option that what im working on lol

[inner cloak]

i wish facepunch would just fully migrate to x64 as default and then just make x32 optional in the beta section

[subtle bison]

i wish they could add some cvars for stuff we patch in the engine

somthing like cl_rtx or lmao

[lapis pewter]

for example this here all i did was change the 0.25 "remaining sky darkening" setting back to 100 percent
The hdris end up looking identical to the eye, and most of the pixel values aren't touched at all
but the artifacting stops:

[subtle bison]

direct ilumination still works?

[lapis pewter]

yep

[subtle bison]

cool

[keen rivet]

implement the portal rtx convars

[lapis pewter]

and this is nice too, cos i want an orange sky, so you can do all sorts of other image manipulations here to get the look you want

[subtle bison]

got any other contacts at facepunch who are willing to work on gmod?

[keen rivet]

"any other" like i knew someone willing to work on gmod in the first place lol

[subtle bison]

😭

[lapis pewter]

for example i wanted more orange:

[keen rivet]

we can just do things ourselves if we have to

[keen rivet]

speaking of that im gonna try this now

lol

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/big-wave-hitting-me-fail-wave-crashing-boom-gif-13568030

my pr's be like

[keen rivet]

its been a while since i've touched the project to be fair you've been going nuts

[lapis pewter]

btw slight mistake in this node setup, the color correction must go before the map value nodes

[subtle bison]

yeah, im burning out for sure though, the stuff that's left to fix is gonna be the hardest

though i have a few more ideas for optimizing the custom world renderer and view frustrum stuff. Mostly per-map settings or even framerate targets to automatically adjust settings to maintain performance

i really dont want to teach/make users adjust things just to get the game over 30fps

[subtle bison]

the big one is baking blended textures, I'll need to depend on render targets and those seem to be completely broken on 64-bit?

or even x32, i havent checked

its why skurttyskirt's pseudoplayer stuff is broken

[keen rivet]

just set textures that should blend to decal

[subtle bison]

yeah but then only one shows lol

[keen rivet]

shouldn't?

both should show

[subtle bison]

ill check later, im not near my main pc atm

either way, it would be nice to blend those so it looks like rasterized

remix terrain blending is too slow

[keen rivet]

the decal blending runs perfectly fine for me

huh...

[subtle bison]

update your module

those are frame management calls for the api lights

[lapis pewter]

Quick tutorial for you for later

[keen rivet]

wtf

ok so

DoesBoxTouchAreaFrustum should call R_CullBoxSkipNear however it calls the same thing as ApplyFlashlightToLeaf which is supposed to be R_CullBox (not skip near)

were these functions merged in 64 bit gmod

[keen rivet]

thge answer is yes btw i dunnoi why i didnt think of this before it seems so obvious in hindsight lmao

[lapis pewter]

I made the hdri sun green because reasons!

[keen rivet]

[keen rivet]

since they dont even exist in the mathlib header (commented out lol) and i cant use them if i uncomment them i'm gonna asume them is some new R_CullBoxFast or something

NO WONDER I COULDNT FIND IT

THAT MAKES SENSE DOESNT IT

[keen rivet]

@fringe ingot new 64 bit knowledge pinging you so that if you ever finish up your 64 bit patches you don't have to go on this goose chase i went on

lol

Wait so I don't understand then you said there was still culling? @subtle bison

[subtle bison]

with your patches only yes

the view frustrum addon fixes it but it has to be tweaked per map

[drifting hinge]

good morning remixers

[drifting hinge]

That's alot of ray tracing

[onyx ridge]

does this include people with a 2050

[quiet scroll]

i've been missing out on subsurface scattering omgggggg

what setting do y'all use? they're wayyyy too black at first glance, playing around with the settings

[drifting hinge]

who up subsurfacing they scattering

hellooo mr skurty

[quiet scroll]

good tidings scraaanch, top of the mornin to u

[drifting hinge]

fr my homie

[half viper]

can somebody help my dumbass getting the hdris to work

[drifting hinge]

what has the water done now

[half viper]

it dont work😢

i dones everything correctly

[drifting hinge]

well uhmm have you 100% done verything right

[half viper]

yup

on a clean install

[drifting hinge]

well then

idk

[half viper]

why am i always the one who spongles thing up

[drifting hinge]

spongles

thats a new word

[half viper]

idfk

[half viper]

i was on 32bit

[potent agate]

does water not work on x64?
it seems to always be broken even with the mod to fix it

[half viper]

it works for me

[potent agate]

it does not for me

[subtle bison]

you need the remix mod and the lua mod

i think skurttyskurts has both on his repo

ill try include them in mine next release

[half viper]

hey uh the toggle cursor and toggle game input dont work

[subtle bison]

on x64?

are those remix options?

[half viper]

yeh

yeh

[subtle bison]

probably because we dont have the bridge lol

it controls all of that

[half viper]

bruh

so do i find it somewhere

[subtle bison]

there is no 64-bit bridge so i cant really fix that

bridge is designed to translate render calls into a 64-bit address space

in addition to the input stuff

[half viper]

dam so how about a mod for gmod to disable input

[subtle bison]

i dont have any plans to look into that

i use a r_drawvgui bind to toggle the game UI, so when its paused, i can open the remix menu and control it then

[potent agate]

I'm pretty sure I have everything?

[subtle bison]

so the remix water replacements, and then the lua mod installed to GarrysMod/garrysmod/addons/remixbinary/lua/?

[potent agate]

yep

[subtle bison]

hold on ill package both since i already have it on my x64 install

delete the old stuff and replace it with this

[potent agate]

alright

it flickers now

[subtle bison]

huh

this means the lua file isnt working

its not even supposed to be a water texture on the gmod side anymore

do you get any warnings or errors when loading the map?

[potent agate]

nope, just opened it again after a restart

[subtle bison]

so does your path look like this?

[potent agate]

yes

[subtle bison]

weird that its not loading it...

did you restart the whole game?

[potent agate]

yeah

wait now it's working

and I did nothing

[subtle bison]

glad it works

you will find some materials that are definitely not water, replaced with water

[potent agate]

guess it needed a minute to start up???
lol

[subtle bison]

something is off with the heuristics i used and i havent gotten around to fix it just yet

though it only seems to happen in a tiny few maps

[potent agate]

I see

[half viper]

how does i fixes

[subtle bison]

read

[half viper]

ik its something with alpha blending right?

[subtle bison]

its because a couple of maps use blended textures, which works fine on rasterized, but remix cant handle textures like that very well

the issue gets amplified with the custom world renderer because i do not have any handling for it either

i have to find a way to bake textures somehow at runtime

i do not know if i will ever be able to fix it anytime soon

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet oh my god you were right

it actually works better with the custom world renderer too lmao

i marked both as decal

[keen rivet]

Told you

[subtle bison]

i gotta see gm_construct

ok it works but there is still some weird shit going on with the cwr

doesnt do it in every spot

@half viper try marking both textures as decal

[subtle bison]

i dont know why or how, but displacements are rendering on their own, this is even with my custom world renderer removed and world rendering disabled
@keen rivet

did you do any magic

this is on gm_construct_rtx

nah this even happens on normal construct

what the fuck

what is rendering these displacements???

ok i think r_drawworld 0 doesnt control them?

even the hashes are stable wtf

behold

its so beautiful 🥹

im completely removing my displacement code

[subtle bison]

lol wtf

[subtle bison]

particle lights look so good

[subtle bison]

i think its safe to say the custom mesh renderer is perfect now

no more vertex explosions on maps with dense faces

i can now hide all the user UI stuff and force it on

very pretty map btw

@quiet scroll pls pbr this map ❤️

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3380651069

would be an amazing showcase for the HDRIs

[loud mural]

Yeah that's because displacements are rendered in a different way than brushes. That's why CS:GO uses almost exclusively displacements on maps like de_dust2 for anything other than visibility because they are significantly more efficient to render than brushes

[keen rivet]

i dont think so lol

last i was fucking around with them i found r_drawworld was effecting them....

[subtle bison]

yeah i thought that was the case too

[keen rivet]

i think

[subtle bison]

but i guess not

good for me

less pain and the rendering issues are instantly fixed

[keen rivet]

lol

[subtle bison]

gmod x64 getting so much closer to replacing x32 ❤️

[keen rivet]

SOON SOON SOON

SO CLOSE

[subtle bison]

I just gotta find a way to auto adjust the view frustrum lua code per map

not like a whitelist, but maybe based on framerate target?

[keen rivet]

i wonder if we use lua_openscript_cl can we load the binary module in multiplayer

[subtle bison]

one other concern is stopping the usage of the magic dlls

i guess we're gonna extract signatures and have the binary module handle it?

[keen rivet]

hopefully

[subtle bison]

it would also probably help diagnose the CEF issues

[keen rivet]

im still down to have patches exist too because the chromium bug would need to be patched at load which we cant do

[subtle bison]

do we know exactly what broke it?

it looks like whatever shader gmod uses to render it is broken

[keen rivet]

used to be able to fix it by deleting a specific dll i think

[subtle bison]

gameshadergeneric?

it doesnt this time

[keen rivet]

also blueamulet updated their patches btw see if that stop the CEF crash

[subtle bison]

i tried them

game crashes on map load

division by zero stuff again

[keen rivet]

does chromium work though?

[subtle bison]

CEF was working in menu yes

[keen rivet]

i think thats a materialsystem patch

so you can probably just only patch your materialsystem.dll then

[keen rivet]

was the patch causing the crash?

[subtle bison]

what if we patched the magic dlls

[subtle bison]

i dont think the patches themselves, its just not accounting for every division by zero

and i guess the signature doesnt match anything i put in for the VEH

i havent looked too hard into it

blueamulet said they'd try to reproduce it on their own time, so i sent them instructions but i havent heard from them in a week

[keen rivet]

blueamulet is a busy person I think

no reason to rush :)

[subtle bison]

for sure

[old minnow]

how setup?

[subtle bison]

the first pinned message

[old minnow]

thank :D

[subtle bison]

ill try looking into it over the weekend, if the VEH can handle it then our problems are solved

thank god the module loads before rendering

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll you should probably add back the bridge.conf

@old minnow

copy this file here

replace the original if it exists

@old minnow btw with 289 addons, your x32 install is most likely not to run well lmao

or even load into a map

[old minnow]

my main steam acc has 500 addons lmao i had to disable them all

why can i see my player model

[subtle bison]

its called a pseudoplayer, you're supposed to mark it in the toolkit as a playermodel texture so you have first person shadows

you can turn it off with rtx_pseudoplayer 0

[old minnow]

i can stil see it

[subtle bison]

reload the map

if it still doesnt work, turn it off in the sandbox menu

[old minnow]

work now

tf happened to the hls guns

[subtle bison]

they have broken drawcalls, it cant really be fixed in remix or ingame

[old minnow]

oh

[subtle bison]

though they're the only occurrence of that issue

[old minnow]

why does flashlight just not work

[subtle bison]

its supposed to, but it bugs out on some maps

you're gonna see a lot of stuff not working

get used to it

@keen rivet so apparently my world disabling code that doesnt use r_drawworld does not work lmao. I tried a few other ways and nothing gets it to turn off

the good thing is, there is about no performance penalty leaving it on, and you cant even see it in normal rendering

only debug

so im gonna add a Capture Mode toggle that just toggles r_drawworld for clean captures

[keen rivet]

huh

[subtle bison]

now that we can run heavy maps with stupidly large chunk sizes, performanc has once again skyrocketed

x64

ill see if i can compare with x32

LMFAO

32-bit

🚀

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3383243385&searchtext=cmdr

[potent agate]

that's so peak

[subtle bison]

mark it as decal in the runtime

[subtle bison]

ignore in the toolkit

thats pretty much the gist of it

[potent agate]

pretty close to perfect

[subtle bison]

i just fixed that

[fallow mesa]

💀

[subtle bison]

^

[potent agate]

truly winning

[subtle bison]

it'll be a bit till it reaches release

i still gotta fix some QoL stuff so it can be ready to replace x32

i think we're pretty much there in terms of parity

[potent agate]

yeah, it's getting there

for adding the textures as a decal it still does a decent job even without the full fix

[subtle bison]

yeah it looks the same as normal gmod

good lord i love DLSS 4

DLSS balanced almost looks like native, plus no smearing

🤤

[potent agate]

dlss 4 is out already?

[subtle bison]

for cp2077

a couple people here got it working in remix

[potent agate]

oh sweet

[subtle bison]

i think we're still missing some features, so i'd wait for the portal rtx remix build to come out

[potent agate]

I'll be looking for the update eventually

[subtle bison]

im hoping we get some source specific tweaks that improve gmod x64

they did in the past, but they quickly got outdated lol

i belive render targets worked which is a big one for us

[fallow mesa]

64 bit

32 bit

[subtle bison]

map?

also run getpos and send the output for that screenshot

[fallow mesa]

] getpos
setpos 615.685974 -8902.639648 -951.000000;setang -13.529999 82.343994 0.000000

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2856036399

[subtle bison]

good lord its massive

[fallow mesa]

64bits is much better

[subtle bison]

oh i read it backwards

i thought 32-bit had the higher fps lol

[potent agate]

I feel like 32 bit might have crashed here?
I don't remember being able to have this much happening

x64 is much much better

[subtle bison]

so does this map not have a working skybox? its using the one from the last map

[fallow mesa]

why is yours like that?

[subtle bison]

not sure

might be something on my end

im using my dev build

replacing it with a HDRI works fine enough

[fallow mesa]

it takes a long time to enter in large maps

[subtle bison]

yeah not much i can do, its mostly because of the custom view frustrum and world renderer code

it has to build the meshes right after map load

maybe i can add some kind of file based caching

[fallow mesa]

i agree

[half viper]

Thats always what i do first and that didnt work

[quiet scroll]

weird, the bridge works for some people and breaks it for others

[quiet scroll]

Yeahh this one's on the whiteboard, really really pretty map

[keen rivet]

NEED

GRRRR

[livid rapids]

preset J? I heard that's the one using the transformer model

[stable scarab]

that's insane

[subtle bison]

yeah it is, though there are some caveats, i had to turn down some settings for the frustrum culling modifier, so stuff culls pretty close to the player

[stable scarab]

Actually is DLSS 3.100 but yeah DLSS 4 gives me a clearer image than version 3.7.20

[subtle bison]

you can make it go further, but this map kills fps pretty hard going beyond 256

im still working on optimizing it if i can

but i think im near the limits of what render bounds can do

[subtle bison]

i got that premium source

[stable scarab]

how much fps on that spot?

[subtle bison]

23

im out of vram with DLSS 4 set to balanced and a HDRI

it probably runs fine with a nicer gpu lol

[stable scarab]

yeah but its worth it, it looks amazing

[stable scarab]

you would upgrade?

at least to a 4070/3080

[subtle bison]

yes, to a 5090, if i could afford it rn 🙂

nothing less

i need that 32gb vram for creative and ML stuff

the good thing with developing with a 2080 is that i can actually optimize stuff

im one of the lower end remix users here

[stable scarab]

tbh im totally fine with my 3080 for now, let see in some months ahead... when they release more stuff that consumes all my vram lol

[stable scarab]

really?

[subtle bison]

i'd like to think so

[stable scarab]

nobody have a 2000 series?

[subtle bison]

i dont see many 2050 or 2060 users here

[stable scarab]

ohh i see

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet not sure if you'd agree with this. But we should remove the engine and client patches for culling. Performance with just the lua scripts is much higher and there is still room for improvement

x32 and x64

this is on camp kairo which is one of the heavier maps

the perf difference could be within margin of error since the remix configs are different, not to mention the x32 build is the hl2 version and not modern

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll I finally fixed the water addon, it wont tag random stuff as water anymore

here is the file

[near tartan]

Cool

[half viper]

would look even better if you load the vanilla normal maps

[subtle bison]

there is no way to load them from the engine lol

at least dynamically

im not gonna go ingest them either

[half viper]

yeah i know

manually ingesting them would take a while

[near tartan]

So this like, fixes Xeniths water mod?

[subtle bison]

its replacing all water bodies with a static texture the game doesnt use, so we only need one hash for water

[half viper]

i remember images from someone who loaded hl2 normal maps into remix

[subtle bison]

it also fixes broken drawcalls for ep2 water

[near tartan]

So, if I were to set up gmod agin, where would I place this?

[subtle bison]

gonna assume this was like in 2023?

[subtle bison]

@near tartan

extract into GarrysMod

it has the addon and remix mod

[near tartan]

Thanks 😊

[stable scarab]

this addon should work in HL2 ep2 base?

[subtle bison]

no, its gmod only

[stable scarab]

oh ok then

[half viper]

portal rtx era

[subtle bison]

this is an absolutely fresh gmod x64 install from 10 minutes ago

this is the state of the game with my newest changes

no changes to anything

extracted files, replaced things, opened it

😎

also removed engine patches for culling, we definitely dont need them

@keen rivet 🤭

[subtle bison]

is this with the new water addon?

[fallow mesa]

yes

[subtle bison]

send the map name

[fallow mesa]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3302364964

[subtle bison]

i dont think thats something from remix or the compat mod

make sure you have the required content for the map

[fallow mesa]

okay I'll check it out

ok

[subtle bison]

i think the map includes them

i get the checkerboard as well though

but it also shows in rasterized

so its not remix

fixed it

wow this is a pretty map

[fallow mesa]

I'll try to find other maps

[subtle bison]

hopefully that should be it

[subtle bison]

yea the map is doing something weird with the texture

i cant fix that

[fallow mesa]

all the maps in my add-ons

they're fine

[subtle bison]

who wants to test some rtx lights on x64?

im tired of dealing with source engine lights breaking for different reasons and im ready to completely get rid of them

[fallow mesa]

how do I test?

[subtle bison]

place the contents into your GarrysMod folder

replace everything

you can spawn them here

i just want to see if i fixed game crashes

they dont happen to me at all so i cant reproduce

[subtle bison]

stable?

try spawning a bunch

[fallow mesa]

and I was crashes after that

[subtle bison]

after just one?

[fallow mesa]

I just switch the windows to discord

[subtle bison]

oh alt tab crashes might be something else

are they stable as long as the game is focused?

[subtle bison]

ah the "flicker before death" crash

i had those a while ago but i never knew why they stopped for me

ill figure it out

ty

even on a clean build

this sucks

@fallow mesa hey what if you spawn them as a smaller size?

copy these settings

[fallow mesa]

okay I'll try

[subtle bison]

🥹

[fallow mesa]

I saw some boxes

[subtle bison]

yeah i need to fix the alpha

@fallow mesa try this dll

it goes into garrysmod\lua\bin

replace the old one and restart the game

when your game gets unstable, the state manager should remove the light instead of the game crashing

you should see it happening in the console

[fallow mesa]

I'll be back for a try

I have to go to work😅

[steel lark]

where is the 64 bit installer?

or does that even exist

i think i'm misremembering that existing lol

[keen rivet]

Are you sure??

[subtle bison]

yeah i mean if we can get better performance with the lua code but still prevent culling or at least make it work for RT, i dont see why we need to

[keen rivet]

I think making sure anything that uses cullbox is overwritten sounds like a good idea

[subtle bison]

go for it. we might still go with it if I cant figure out some of my existing issues

performance would definitely be more consistent with engine patches

not to mention MP working

[steel lark]

@subtle bison is the 64 bit tutorial pinned i search a bit for it and i think it's not here?

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-fixes-2/releases/tag/gmrtx64_0.2

[steel lark]

that's i wanted

thanks

yay

[subtle bison]

does spawning multiple crash your game?

actually more than 1 might cause the state validator to remove them as i dont have handles fixed yet

[steel lark]

patriotic screenshot

[steel lark]

idk let me test

no but it did make the hdri not work anymore

and the editor doesn't open too

[subtle bison]

huh, those dont talk to each other

it shouldnt affect that at all

lemme see on my end

yeah still working for me

[steel lark]

ohhh i thought you meant hdri editor lmao

[subtle bison]

nah i meant the rtx lights lol

[steel lark]

huh you know what i actually put some five or six lights on gm_construct and it didn't crash but 2 on ttt_waterworld and it crashed immediately

this is so exciting i love the new hdri thing it looks soo good

does the material tool not work?

[subtle bison]

yeah i've seen that before, its something to do with the load on the d3d9 device

[subtle bison]

it did on x32, does it not on x64?

[steel lark]

yeah i know in 32 bits it worked perfectly even with animated textures but on 64 bits it just doesn't seem to work

[subtle bison]

we might be missing some stuff then, you have rtx remix fixes install yeah?

x64 doesnt do anything different than x32 for materials, at least for the tool

[steel lark]

maybe it has something to do with the custom renderer or is that only for the map?

[subtle bison]

are you trying to change materials for a prop?

[steel lark]

i have it i think since i installed everything from the files or do i have to also install the workshop addon?

[subtle bison]

yeah the workshop addon is still needed

[steel lark]

ohh

ok didn't know

i'll try it then

what do i do if the alt+x menu doesn't block game input?

the mouse keeps going to the center if i don't have it paused or in the spawnmenu

[subtle bison]

i bound r_drawvgui 1 and r_drawvgui 0 to two different keys

so i disable vgui, then pause

as far as i know, the bridge is responsible for blocking input, there is no bridge for x64 so we're on our own

its the same reason why the mouse cursor shows when moving the camera around

[steel lark]

oohh that's pretty weird

what is this circle?

[subtle bison]

hu

is it like in the skybox?

[steel lark]

yeah

[subtle bison]

uhh is ray reconstruction on?

i get that if its off, but its fine with RR on

also do mind trying these changes?

extract the contents into GarrysMod replacing everything. try spawning multiple lights again and see if your game crashes

[steel lark]

oh it's cause i was using TAA-U instead of dlss

and this uhh

[subtle bison]

ye i fixed it, its a bug with the custom world renderer