Garry's Mod

[keen rivet]

wait wtf

no require on my install is broken

why

122 at quality

[subtle bison]

4090 moment

[keen rivet]

not as high as i would have liked

dlss setting isnt making it perform better

so its gmod limited it seems

[subtle bison]

cpu?

[keen rivet]

i9 13900k

[subtle bison]

could also be a remix bottleneck

try turning off my mesh renderer and see if fps goes up as well

[keen rivet]

205 with it off

thats a 2 but frame gen got to it

[subtle bison]

so you're getting double fps with it off???

[keen rivet]

yeah

[subtle bison]

i dont even get that big of a drop with it on

[keen rivet]

you might be gpu limited

[subtle bison]

🙂

its weird because in rasterized gmod the hit is very small

[keen rivet]

im out of bounds too so culling is off

[subtle bison]

wait try inbounds

[keen rivet]

wait wtf i turned it back on its...

huh

[subtle bison]

i dont get results like that lmfao, interesting tho

[keen rivet]

wonder why

[subtle bison]

try a simple map like gm_orange

[keen rivet]

link?

[subtle bison]

its low on drawcalls so its less likely to be engine limited

one sec

[drifting hinge]

goodnight garry's mod rtx people

[keen rivet]

good night

[subtle bison]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3362925879&searchtext=gm_orange

[drifting hinge]

👁️

[keen rivet]

k

gonna swap off the mystery everything works binaries

[subtle bison]

lol

latest everything unpatched except datacache is what i got

prob want to use my rtx.conf because newer gmod breaks a lot of hashes

[keen rivet]

ok latest unpatched crashes on startup

[subtle bison]

wha

oh yea

install lua menu

[keen rivet]

i aint doing that brug

going back to patched but only the one that makes chromium work

[subtle bison]

what's odd for me is that if i dont delete the generic gmod shader file or whatever, the normal chromium menu worked fine for me

[keen rivet]

i havent need to do that in years lol

old instructions

holy shit blinded

[subtle bison]

what am i looking at lol

[keen rivet]

idk lol its really bright

[subtle bison]

is that a defualt map light or somthing? i dont see that on my end lol

[keen rivet]

might be im unsure

[subtle bison]

shouldnt be my rtx lights lmao

[keen rivet]

no it looks like default scene unit scale is messed up

better

[subtle bison]

oml i just realized 64-bit source doesnt have the same vert limitations as 32-bit

[keen rivet]

nope

[subtle bison]

i think i can optimize the custom renderer a lot more in that case

havent tested the actual limits but now instead of 512 being the safe default, you can full throttle it and verts wont explode

at least in this map

i think im completely gpu bound now lol

ok yeah other maps break, and then the game

[keen rivet]

lol

[subtle bison]

omg so much fps!!!! 😮 😮 😮

/s

[keen rivet]

ah yes

1326 fps

[lament quartz]

Not enough

More

[keen rivet]

raytracing on gives me 120 :(

@subtle bison custom world rendering does break the 2d skybox, it stops rendering it

is that just a byproduct of however vanilla world rendering is disabled?

[subtle bison]

yes

i was working on a native reimplementation but i had to pause it because of its complexity

not sure how we'd handle it in the lua addon

[keen rivet]

maxxing out things on this map does break some things after all

you just cant see it when rtx is on

[subtle bison]

shhhh

🤫

ok

what the fuck is this bug lmfao

[keen rivet]

oh

more ui texture shenanigans

might port that ui texture fix i had from the old addon into this one

[subtle bison]

it happened after some change i made to the force render addon

[keen rivet]

ok texture fixes give an fps boost it seems too

the rtx lights have an interesting look to them

[subtle bison]

yea i think the radius is inverted or something

setting it to 2 or 1 looks normal

[keen rivet]

new crash unlocked when loading into flatgrass

[subtle bison]

hu the veh shouldve taken care of any of them. i haven't had any since adding it other than remix lights killing the d3d9 device

what where is the crash happening at

(dll, module, etc)

also im going to bed, so just @me if you got any other findings and ill do my best to reply in the morning

[winter radish]

NVIDIA users and their 100+ fps 🥲

[willow fog]

That's actually really good because I'm working on the arc9 mw weapons pack.

[lapis delta]

the fuck?

how?

[willow fog]

Man I love this thread

[lapis delta]

mesh renderer? mesh with stable hashes or wha?

[drifting hinge]

remix morning mr garry's mod rtx remix thread

[subtle bison]

custom world renderer using chunked meshes, removes the need for engine culling patches and also gives you stable geometry hashes to spawn stuff in a map with the toolkit

[drifting hinge]

when are 3d skyboxes gonna be fixed

[subtle bison]

is this infmap?

3d skyboxes already work
put r_3dsky 1 in the console and enable this in the runtime

[steel lark]

that worked before i updated gmod and rtx remix

doesn't work for me anymore

[subtle bison]

this is on both latest versions

[drifting hinge]

not infmap

[drifting hinge]

why was this option not enabled by default

the 3d skybox also glitches and shifts when you move the camera

[subtle bison]

hm i dont get that on my end

what map is it

[drifting hinge]

dd desert road night

i think

thats the name

[subtle bison]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=446417754&searchtext=dd+desert+road
?

[drifting hinge]

the night version

specifically i havent tried the normal version

[subtle bison]

day version has rendering issues on 64-bit, game went completely rasterized, hopefully night works

ye night works

[drifting hinge]

screenrecorder refuses to capture gmod rtx somehow even though it worked a day ago

this is what i meant

[subtle bison]

use obs 🤓

[drifting hinge]

no

[subtle bison]

yeah working fine for me

though i am using a pretty hacked up 64-bit build

lemme try 32-bit

[drifting hinge]

you recorded this with obs?

[subtle bison]

ye i always use obs

[drifting hinge]

because every video you send is just a still image with audio

i have to download it to view

[subtle bison]

lol obs isnt causing that

its a hevc encoded video and for some reason, not everyone using the normal discord app can view it

its some kind of bug they need to fix

[drifting hinge]

browser discord

[subtle bison]

oh then use the app lol

it works fine for me here

[drifting hinge]

later

[subtle bison]

32-bit works fine too

[drifting hinge]

so then why does it happen for me

lol

[subtle bison]

could be a detail texture messing it up

[drifting hinge]

fuck if rtx would let me record i could show you what i mean

[subtle bison]

obs

[drifting hinge]

the entire 3d skybox lags

nevermind ill just disable 3d skybox

[steel lark]

printscreen

[subtle bison]

ah yes

send a screenshot per frame

[steel lark]

no

i mean this

[subtle bison]

oh right

[steel lark]

mine is set to printscreen

that's why i said that

is 64 bits stable yet?

[subtle bison]

stable-ish, wouldnt say its on par with 32-bit yet lol

[steel lark]

sad

[subtle bison]

well i did say that before but there is still some stuff to add before making a beta release

[steel lark]

is it better than 32 bit in a way?

[subtle bison]

yeah it loads faster, no dependency on the remix bridge (less cpu overhead), better performance on large maps, you can load more than 2 maps (32-bit would usually hang loading on the 3rd attempt), some other benefits im forgetting to mention

also with the binary module, me and xenthio can make the experience much more polished

[steel lark]

wdym hang on loading 3rd time?

that never happened to me?

[subtle bison]

at least for me, with a lot of addons, let's say i play on 2 maps for a long period of time, and want to load a different one, my game would indefinitely hang on me

i've had the issue since i started messing with remix

[steel lark]

weird

[drifting hinge]

the

[subtle bison]

what the hell

[steel lark]

i should have probably seem this issue before since i play for long periods of time in a lot of maps but i don't recall it happening even once

[drifting hinge]

das what im sayinn brahhh

[steel lark]

i've seen that happen with the skybox not the other way round lmao

godamit english

[drifting hinge]

what do you mean not the other way around

[steel lark]

in your case the skybox is fixed and the map is wobbly lol

mine was the opposite

[drifting hinge]

the 3d skybox is the one janking

the world is oka

y

everything is wrong wiht the skybox

its lagging behind

[subtle bison]

when the hell did particles cast shadows???

i swear this is new

[drifting hinge]

how are these two numbers different

[subtle bison]

wdym

[drifting hinge]

on my game they are locked to eachother

like

i change one value and other changes with it

[subtle bison]

even when typing the value?

[drifting hinge]

even when typing it

yes

[subtle bison]

wth

lemme make absolutely sure im using the latest remix

[drifting hinge]

also fog tuning tab isnt there for me

[subtle bison]

you sure you installed the latest remix?

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/12382112519

not the release

the CI build

[drifting hinge]

i installed through gmodrtx drag and drop installation

i havent downloaded or touched anything else

[subtle bison]

you'll need to update remix manually

[drifting hinge]

because i didnt want to break anything

[subtle bison]

from that build

[drifting hinge]

should i drag that into the .trex folder and replace everything when it prompts me to or should i delete everything in the .trex folder and then put the new stuff inside

[subtle bison]

either or

1st option worked for me

[drifting hinge]

aight

i love manually fucking with game files

[subtle bison]

@quiet scroll can you include the newest dxvk remix CI into your script?
also might want to add resolution options to the installer

[drifting hinge]

also make it not launch in 640 x 480 resolution every time

[subtle bison]

the script should be setting the game resolution via launch parameters, since we're constantly setting the dxlevel, the game will never remember your video settings
-w 1920 -h 1080 -noborder

no idea if his does, but adding these will fix it

[drifting hinge]

where do i add launch parameters to it

[subtle bison]

what does your gmod directory look like, also what file do you use to launch the game

a screenshot should be enough

[drifting hinge]

ill send that

also the water is fucked now

glitching

[subtle bison]

hu a new remix build shouldnt break water lol

how is it glitching

[drifting hinge]

edited .exe that came with the gmod rtx drag and drop

i edited the name an icon

[subtle bison]

is it just a exe?

[drifting hinge]

yes

.exe

[subtle bison]

no batch or ps script

omg

😭

[drifting hinge]

lol dont blame me it came like that

[subtle bison]

uhh well i have another solution for you

[drifting hinge]

go on

[subtle bison]

it has a lot of useless launch params, but put it inside your gmod dir where the exe is

and run that bat instead

[drifting hinge]

sir yes sir

and so it works

[steel lark]

infmap glass

[subtle bison]

wut the hell

[drifting hinge]

the modern art in question

[subtle bison]

looks like an abstractionist painting

[drifting hinge]

ugly text from debug

[subtle bison]

remove all of the debug stuff from the bat

[drifting hinge]

yeah aight

and hey the skybox works now

[subtle bison]

lol

the magical bat file

[steel lark]

no it doesn't

it disabled it

r_3dsky is 0

[drifting hinge]

nuh uh

[steel lark]

really?

[drifting hinge]

r_3dsky is 1

[subtle bison]

its an old bat, its before the 3dsky got fixed so i never changed it

[drifting hinge]

and no more bugs

[steel lark]

were you not using ANY bat?

[subtle bison]

skurtyyskirts' installer makes a exe based off a ps1 file

[drifting hinge]

playstation

[subtle bison]

ps1 = powershell

tip of the day 🙂

[drifting hinge]

powershell 5 release in stores when

[steel lark]

powershell 3

emulator

[drifting hinge]

real

[subtle bison]

[steel lark]

do the anticulling options in rtx remix itself do anything?

[subtle bison]

not for source

[drifting hinge]

is gm_bigcity_improved rasterized for yuo mr CR

[subtle bison]

vis and pvs are very aggressive lol

[subtle bison]

lemme see

[steel lark]

😭

[subtle bison]

do i check with the frankensteined 64-bit or 32-bit

[drifting hinge]

32 bit

[subtle bison]

renders with remix for me, but the skybox is busted

ill try 64

[drifting hinge]

try selecting the skybox

or something

[subtle bison]

nah its a untextured drawcall, i cant
64-bit crashes loading it

[drifting hinge]

its over

[willow fog]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[steel lark]

no way

it hanged

on the third map

[drifting hinge]

is there a way to execute ent_remove_all func_reflective_glass and ent_remove_all func_monitor on map load

[steel lark]

😭

[steel lark]

you can make a simple mod

addon*

that does that

i can do it if you want

[drifting hinge]

where

[steel lark]

it's just executing a command

[drifting hinge]

where the addon at

[steel lark]

uhhh

i don't think it exists yet

[subtle bison]

i can make one one sec

[steel lark]

ok

[drifting hinge]

Its so over

[steel lark]

just concommand.run right?

[subtle bison]

yea

[steel lark]

cr is making one

[steel lark]

will you post it or just send the file?

[drifting hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854069038686535720/1172252590336131142/zjmg23.gif?ex=655fa44c&is=654d2f4c&hm=72aaf748fa1983f6cfc4938e86a5ec8fb72cd045b7087f6a99031d32df61ea3e&

[subtle bison]

im gonna send it here

it will be added to the main addon at some point

[steel lark]

k

[subtle bison]

what map has a mirror, need to quickly test it

[drifting hinge]

the flying hotel

it has two actually

[steel lark]

gm_wwhouse_cs

[drifting hinge]

also game crashed everytime i shoot or hit anything with a crowbar

anything that makes bullet holes

[subtle bison]

make sure steam didnt validate and replace your binary patches

is your gmod with remix renamed to something else?

[drifting hinge]

what

[subtle bison]

when you patch your game, you need to rename it so steam doesnt update it

[drifting hinge]

i dont use a duplicate folder

[subtle bison]

well then you'll keep running into this issue lol

[drifting hinge]

ermmm use a duplicate folder or DIE

cant i just rename the root folder

[subtle bison]

yea

i said to rename it lol

[drifting hinge]

dead body

[subtle bison]

anyway

this seems to work

game didnt freak out moving around in the hotel map

[drifting hinge]

so it killed the mirrors

[subtle bison]

yes

[drifting hinge]

all my homies hate mirrors

thank you for removing all mirrors

the crash still happens do i have to do anything else

[subtle bison]

re-patch your game

[drifting hinge]

dead body

how

[subtle bison]

easiest is redoing the script
https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX

[drifting hinge]

wont that also kill the new version of remix

[subtle bison]

then just reinstall remix after

[drifting hinge]

ok omie

shooting still crashes it

[subtle bison]

hu

[drifting hinge]

h

[subtle bison]

might have to wait for skurtyyskirts to come online, i really have no idea what his script is doing

[drifting hinge]

dont go insane from gmodrtx challenge

[subtle bison]

up for manually installing everything?
https://youtu.be/JeMrlemVSl8

need to do this on a clean gmod install of course

[drifting hinge]

pass

takes too long

[quiet scroll]

Chat what I miss

[drifting hinge]

gmod rtx doing a gmod rtx

[subtle bison]

might need to take a look at your script

[quiet scroll]

Watbulb made it He’s on vacation. The gmodrtx comes with the latest remix version, I’ll check which ones it has in a sec

But it sounds like we need it to fit to the screen length width, and some other fixes?

[subtle bison]

yea

i definitely recommend forcing the rename or move of the patched gmod install lol

i can try to take a look at the script later, if i make any changes ill submit a PR

[quiet scroll]

What we could do I’m thinking, I could strip my name from the repo and we just make it more open source, that way you and xenthio can get in on it for when 64bit is ready?

Yeah I think doing the renamed folder is the best option, gmod gets updated too often that it’ll cause issues

[subtle bison]

maybe, though im not sure what the install path is gonna look like when the binary module is in a good enough state

[quiet scroll]

That’s ok, I’m sure it’ll just be switching a few directions around here or there

the ultimate gmodrtx installer

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet you might be interested in this
https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-binary/commit/25bc5bd3856204afb299ed6672966d0202535fe5

we can now patch some dlls dynamically at runtime

not all of them work yet but this will help a lot

[lapis delta]

anyway, how did you launch the infmap in remix?

[subtle bison]

blood, sweat, and tears

[lapis delta]

more precisely?

[subtle bison]

the binary module does some stuff to make it work

[lament quartz]

Sweat, blood and no tears

[lapis delta]

can i download 🥺

[subtle bison]

nah its not ready for public use yet

im trying to get a beta release ready i swear

you can try compiling it yourself but i wont be able to support it

[lapis delta]

will this be 64 bit natively?

[subtle bison]

yea

plan is to ditch 32-bit

the module wont ever work for 32-bit

[lapis delta]

what programs can be used for this and how, actually?

[subtle bison]

visual studio 2022, premake

i really cant go more into it as then i would be supporting people before the module is actually ready for people to use lol

you wont have to compile it when a release binary is pushed

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story2-cleaner-you-cant-rush-art-rush-art-impatient-client-gif-20473209

[subtle bison]

😭

idk

oh the gif looped before it was actually done loading

lmao

[quiet scroll]

🤣🤣 take as long as you need CR

[subtle bison]

i would give an estimate but we know how that usually goes when you do this as a hobby

[drifting hinge]

how do I uninstall gmodrtx i want to play without until its more stable

[subtle bison]

2 options
nuke the gmod install and reinstall with steam
selectively remove files and pray it still works

1st option is best 🤭

[drifting hinge]

aight lol thats what i get for not using a duplicate Garrysmod folder

I figured it out you dont have to delete anything just keep your original gmod root folder (with rtx installed with a different name and then verify game files and it will reinstall gmod without rtx into a new folder (without rtx)

i love arrr teeee ecksss

well i hope it works lol its still reinstalling

it works lol

[keen rivet]

DAMN YOU JUST CONTINUE TO COOK

[subtle bison]

in the process of testing this, i reinstalled gmod x64 without any static patches and there is one divison by zero left that leaves some maps unloadable

i have spent like 3 hours trying to get the VEH to catch it

so much pain

[lapis delta]

@subtle bison what about media player?

[subtle bison]

nah it doesnt render at all

[lapis delta]

64 bit?

[subtle bison]

ye

[lapis delta]

very strange

hmm, there's something in the upper left corner. does that affect whether it's displayed or not (I'm talking about there is no shader)

[subtle bison]

yea, chromium probably relies on a shader thant isnt working atm

[lapis delta]

which shader is responsible for the work of vgui?

[subtle bison]

idk

the actual shader system is really bugged on anything below dx9c so its probably due to that

xenthio knows more than me (i think)

[lapis delta]

this explains a lot. i would like to ask another question, are you transferring to dx9 or will it work on an older version?

not dx9c

[subtle bison]

nah it will also work on dx9 (dxlevel 90) as well

anything below that is when stuff breaks

would be better if we just rendered models and the world with FL 70 and everything else dx9

then we wouldnt have these issues

but i dont know if that's possible in the scope of a binary module as it gets loaded during a map

[lapis delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890723904593756200/917388548334837781/image0-1.gif

damn...

so much cooking

and you do it together. this is beyond praise

[subtle bison]

ok fuck this im trying it

i keep thinking this visual studio icon is homer simpson from far away lmao

[drifting hinge]

homer studio

[keen rivet]

does it work with the mystery everything works good binaries?

[subtle bison]

i was using them lol

[keen rivet]

oh right

chromium is the only thing they break

[subtle bison]

💀

[keen rivet]

lmao

[subtle bison]

well if this custom FVF rendering thing works out, no more patched binaries

im tired of this half broken shader system

seriously lmfao

[keen rivet]

if you use only its shaderapidx9 dll i think it works

[subtle bison]

i definitely think this is possible as i have a "certain build" of source that does just this, at runtime as well

no binary patches at all, particle system is still entirely dx9c

xoxor4d also does this with his p2 mod

[drifting hinge]

I don't know what I did but now theres no more crashing when shooting

and now it only happens with sweps

probably addon issue

happens with tacrp and tfa base weapons

[subtle bison]

its not an addon issue, you're crashing from the division by zero error in shaderapidx9, though those should be fully patched in 32-bit

[drifting hinge]

so why it happens

[subtle bison]

i just said why lol

[drifting hinge]

you said it should be fully patched

[subtle bison]

yeah im saying that under the assumption your game might not be fully patched. I wont know until you go through the full manual process as I cant do much support when remix and its stuff is installed with a automated script lol

[drifting hinge]

do i have to remove delete everything and then reinstall

[subtle bison]

no

i got an idea

put this in your GarrysMod/bin folder

replace the old one

do your normal thing ingame and see if it crashes

[drifting hinge]

aight

yeah it still happens

[steel lark]

what's this?

[subtle bison]

my patched shaderapidx9 file from 32-bit

[steel lark]

ohh nice

[subtle bison]

it should be the same as everyone else's

[steel lark]

wdym?

from the patches.py?

[subtle bison]

yea

[steel lark]

oh scronch can't run the patches?

[drifting hinge]

is it really a divide by zero error because i just uninstalled a custom impact addon and then shooting with hl2 guns started working until i got to tfa which has custom particles

👁️ im not an expert but my brains are exploding

[subtle bison]

ok then i really have no idea, i'd ask you to hook up a debugger but thats gonna be a huge pain lol

[steel lark]

why are you using those mods in rtx bruh

[drifting hinge]

because i can

not anymore lol

[steel lark]

well seems like you can't lmao

[drifting hinge]

👁️

[steel lark]

just like uninstall them then 🤷‍♂️

[drifting hinge]

'ermmmm like.... just uninstall the things doing the bugs' mfs when i eat their brain /j

[stable scarab]

this is what happen if i enable that option in the runtime

look at the wall

[subtle bison]

wall

looks like the depth isnt sorted correctly?

does it also move like jelly when you move your camera

[stable scarab]

yeah

[subtle bison]

[stable scarab]

but at least now the citadel its no more dark

[subtle bison]

download this ver of dxvk-remix, overwrite the existing install
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/actions/runs/12382112519

it should "just work"

[stable scarab]

let me check

[drifting hinge]

Bro got the curse of jelly skybox

[keen rivet]

yeah i mean maybe lol, just ditch the vanilla rendering all together lol like i think the p2 mod does

[subtle bison]

working on it now

[quiet scroll]

CHAT I COOKED

I COOKED I COOKED

oop wait, it's on the stove still uhh

https://tenor.com/view/programming-computer-frog-nerd-frog-smart-fog-csharp-gif-25385487

[willow fog]

Huh

[quiet scroll]

Updating the installer, I have the custom screen resolution working but I just need it to copy gmod lol

It's one of those traditional walk you through it installers where you see where it's installing, pressing next, all that jazz

[subtle bison]

oml yes

cook

[keen rivet]

I want to see if I can figure out a proper model hash fix, one that actually works on all models

[quiet scroll]

Oof so close, I'm gunna take a break on it but it's like 99% done, just need to figure out why it's not copying the GarrysMod folder contents. I thought maybe it was a permissions thing but nope. Shall continue cooking

[keen rivet]

I vaguely remember the unstable prop hashes had to do something with vertex lighting, so I want to poke around to see if I can do something in the binary to be a better fix

[subtle bison]

if i get the fvf renderer working, we might want to start messing with that in there since we'll have more control

[keen rivet]

what does fvf renderer mean lol

[subtle bison]

oops i meant fixed function

[keen rivet]

lol

source has fixed function built in, do you mean one that works without needing to have shadermodel set to 0?

[subtle bison]

yeah

we're basically translating shader calls into FVF calls before the d3d9 device gets it

that little source engine demo i sent earlier does exactly that

[keen rivet]

Ah right

[subtle bison]

fixes the particle system and removes the need to patch anything related to it

[keen rivet]

particles work perfectly in my 32bit gmod rtx install

[subtle bison]

yeah because all of the division by zero errors are patched out

[keen rivet]

Ah

[subtle bison]

but i believe vfire and other custom mods that rely on the dx9c shader system are broken on dx8 and below

[keen rivet]

Vfire worked for me last I tried

[subtle bison]

[keen rivet]

I have video of it too

[subtle bison]

nah i believe you lol

[keen rivet]

in my gmod rtx install basically nothing was broken

everything worked

[subtle bison]

i still want to go in this direction since its easier to maintain

[keen rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1116089843479498782/1231757008424669254/Half_Life_Source_2024.04.22_-_10.00.51.20.mp4?ex=6770919b&is=676f401b&hm=558831cc928ea31ecf0e83016704ae21e8400c6a88f251c45cebfa648f3b10b3&

[subtle bison]

we have explicit control over rendering so game updates wont magically break anything

[subtle bison]

god it looks so good

[keen rivet]

Blue amulet probably knows how to fix some of those divide by zero errors since their patches fix basically 99% of crashes

[subtle bison]

yeah but it seems like they're not really active on that anymore

if we can avoid binary patches entirely i think that would be the best method going forward

[keen rivet]

Yeah that makes sense

Unfortunately it means no multiplayer

[subtle bison]

idk gmods vac seems pretty lax lol

[keen rivet]

I don't think it lets you join servers with a binary module loaded

[subtle bison]

unless you mean the module not loading on servers not using it

[keen rivet]

unless maybe we can load it in menu by editing menu code

[subtle bison]

hmm, it would be a bigger effort, but maybe we could inject the module with either a custom exe or asi?

at that point we'd be competing with xoxor4d's mod lol

[keen rivet]

Lol

Custom exe sounds interesting, imagine if that was all the setup needed

And you could maybe make it load the lua fixes with that exe so you can have the single gmod install and not need to create a copy

[subtle bison]

yea

but for now baby steps lmao

[keen rivet]

Yeah lol

But I like the sound of that erection

Direction

Wtf

[subtle bison]

lmfao

[keen rivet]

Freaky Autocorrect

[subtle bison]

bro got things on his mind

👁️

[keen rivet]

yet again this is all brand new territory for me i have near 0 experience in it lol

[subtle bison]

its been a fun learning experience that's for sure

and by fun i mean painful

[keen rivet]

lol

the amount of gmod installs i have lol

[subtle bison]

im only on 3 lmao

[subtle bison]

do they all have addons locally installed?

[keen rivet]

not all

[subtle bison]

newer gmod stores addons in your steam workshop folder

[keen rivet]

i have shitloads of upscaled textrues tho

[subtle bison]

my oldest is the largest

uhh chat

we're about to cook

[keen rivet]

[subtle bison]

it may not look like much, but the FF renderer is offically compiling and sorta working

i just need to add some extra stuff to remix can hook

[keen rivet]

:o

hella gangnam style

[subtle bison]

omfg

im so stupid, whatever you just saw wasnt it lmfao

i was turning on the stupid mesh renderer

😭

[keen rivet]

oh lol

[subtle bison]

this is why you dont similarly name cvars

[keen rivet]

where's the materials interface fetched now?

[subtle bison]

like materialsystem?

[keen rivet]

yeah

this is gone was it not needed?

[subtle bison]

which branch lol

[keen rivet]

main

[subtle bison]

commit?

[keen rivet]

0d6a1eccd20de33f699503bf477257b0bbfdfd14 3 days ago

[subtle bison]

i reverted all of that

oh wait no i didnt

[keen rivet]

afaik that was needed to have materials accessable? how does any of the code that uses it even work without it?

[subtle bison]

which code, the rtx lights dont need it

[keen rivet]

shader hooks uses it i think

[subtle bison]

im directly using it for shader hooks
#include <materialsystem/imaterialsystem.h>
#include <materialsystem/imaterial.h>
#include <materialsystem/imaterialvar.h>

[keen rivet]

wait so it just works if you do that?

excuse my cluelessness here 😅

[subtle bison]

nah you're fine lol

anything exposed by the binary module source sdk works

gmod-rtx-binary\garrysmod_common\sourcesdk-minimal

[keen rivet]

damn i just did it how gwater2 does it and thats fetch it like this lol

[subtle bison]

i believe you'd still need to fetch it for any runtime changes

i was doing it that way for some stuff in other branches but ultimately didnt need it

[keen rivet]

oh goodie i sucessfully can crash the engine wow!

[subtle bison]

omg me too!!!!

😜

[subtle bison]

hey @keen rivet guess what's getting re-introduced 😛

[keen rivet]

was it needed lol

[subtle bison]

i thought no for a while but unfortunately yes

yep i did, i can actually query materials in a map now

[keen rivet]

lol

[subtle bison]

gotta get the state manager working and then i think FF will start working

[subtle bison]

FF's first baby steps

this looks kinda sick lol

varrysvod

vector life 2

you can also see the particles just barely lmao

wireframe is not enabled btw lol

its doing something funky with the d3d9 device

[subtle bison]

🧑‍🍳

FF is alive

strangely chromium is still rendering but not vgui lol

gonna ignore vgui in my FF since i dont think there is any downsides

[keen rivet]

lol yeah

[subtle bison]

btw you can seamlessly toggle between ff and normal

no issues so far

at least until i get remix hooking

[keen rivet]

bruhhhhhhhh im trying to override this lmao

i cant do it

i dont have ida pro lol

[subtle bison]

ida free is enough for me, unles you specifically need the decompile

ok im going to bed

i should stop on a win lmao

i will polish FF renderer tomorrow and hopefully we can get models rendering and remix to hook properly ❤️

💤

[keen rivet]

nice

im stuck trying to figure out all this lol

[lapis delta]

wait, models with stable hashes?

[subtle bison]

not sure

[quiet scroll]

Holy fuck the flying hotel has an entire engine/thruster thingy in the back that the player can't even get to. Attention to detail on dis map berry high

[lapis delta]

but in general is the result close to beta or not?

[subtle bison]

not even close

implementing a FF renderer from scratch is going to be hard lol

[lapis delta]

and what is ff responsible for, if it's not a secret?

[drifting hinge]

where is it

[subtle bison]

fixed function is what allows remix to properly hook onto old games, its not a secret lol

we are already using source's existing fixed function renderer in 32-bit

[lapis delta]

oh, i just forgor 💀

[drifting hinge]

also whats poppin' gmod rtx cookers

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-enemy-gif-26060703

[drifting hinge]

It's over

[quiet scroll]

in da back where the fire poppin out

[drifting hinge]

keep cooking boss

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/cook-chef-wok-saute-cooking-food-gif-16993886

[drifting hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[subtle bison]

big hoss

some more progress

fixed vgui and passed through dx9c particles

[drifting hinge]

the man who remixed gm_flying_hotel (skurtyyskirts)

[drifting hinge]

vfire works?

[subtle bison]

yea since its not being processed by the FF renderer

all particles will work

[drifting hinge]

amazing

[lapis delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/267429765164695554/1241737329379512320/ezgif-5-7f5ecf0a6c.gif?width=160&height=160

no way

working media player and chromium?

[subtle bison]

probably lol, but no models render rn so i cant exactly test it

[steel lark]

emissive video

ohhh

[lapis delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890723904593756200/917388548334837781/image0-1.gif

damn...

[fast epoch]

spongebob

[drifting hinge]

future

[peak rover]

playboi carti dropped

[drifting hinge]

playboi carti HAS to be the WORST gmod map ive ever played on

this aint ever getting remixed

[quiet scroll]

sraaanch you got the freedom to pick the weather, should it be daytime or nightime out early morning late morning evening time wutchu tink

[worldly kelp]

how to change time of day in gmod rtx?

or sun position

[quiet scroll]

#1116089843479498782 message under sky tuning you can adjust the sky brightness, and then the fallback lighting acts as a sun 🙂

[worldly kelp]

thx

[worldly kelp]

tho gmod crashes when i change those values too rapidly

[quiet scroll]

Yeah that happens a lot

[drifting hinge]

that feel when gmod rtx crashes

who could have predicted this

[worldly kelp]

imho gmod rtx crashes way too rarely

not enough crashes

[drifting hinge]

it needs more crashes

[worldly kelp]

true

it should crash when i spawn an object

it should crash when i kill an npc

it should crash when i load a new map

[drifting hinge]

already happens

fo me

[keen rivet]

Video doesn't play for me but I assume it's very awesome

[subtle bison]

everything is rendering but models

vertex formats are a huge pain and i still havent figured it out

im taking a long break before i come back to it

[keen rivet]

oh damn youre gonna do models too?

my fix might not be needed

[subtle bison]

too early to tell ngl

if i dont figure out models for FF, i have another solution.
We go back to hotpatching, but using your cused dll's values since they literally magically work

i can probably write some code to capture the relevant memory sections of shaderapidx9, engine, client, etc from both a unpatched game and a patched one and create the hotpatch set out of that

its all theorized but i dont see why we couldnt

[quiet scroll]

@drifting hinge sckruooouunch i forgot 2 ping

[drifting hinge]

wa the

early morning pleaseee

[quiet scroll]

Good choice good choiceee

cooking i fear

[drifting hinge]

holy damn

you better keep cooking like frrrr

[modern quest]

damn

amazing work

keep it up and maybe put some of it in #1191547320915988610 if it's a mod you plan on releasing

[quiet scroll]

For sure! I used PBRify for the base of the textures

[drifting hinge]

hollup why hasnt anyone made a mod for bullet decals like https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2887678011&searchtext=parallax

[quiet scroll]

That's a good question lmaoo, I'll see if remix takes it

[drifting hinge]

i think its done way differently to make it work for normal gmod

and i also think the decals in the linked mod look ugly and are too big

so goofy 👁️

[lament quartz]

After skurt cooks up this one, my little brother has a request map (only when your done with your current, duh)

[drifting hinge]

whats up cat person

[quiet scroll]

You got it!

[keen rivet]

i had parallax bullet holes but they werent good because i didnt make them good

[drifting hinge]

waittt i found another parallax bullet addon

atleast i think it used parallax mapping

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3138415891&searchtext=parallax

[drifting hinge]

do you have any pictures

[keen rivet]

no

[quiet scroll]

the ceiling lights in the bathrooms/bedrooms cull but I have a genius idea

[drifting hinge]

wait hes cooking this hard

[modern quest]

that parallax map could be just ported to remix

[drifting hinge]

fr?

[modern quest]

light anticulling doesn't work?

[modern quest]

yep. just assign a displacement map to the bullethole decal in a capture

[drifting hinge]

crazy

[subtle bison]

not with source

xenthio's rtx fixes addon has a light updater that works pretty well, not sure what's going on in skurtyyskirts's video

[quiet scroll]

It was attached to an unstable mesh, I found a stable one tho

pain

[modern quest]

that's really weird. it worked for me when testing the original The Stanley Parable mod for source

[lament quartz]

The original mod nowadays has light culling which is weird

[half viper]

Wouldn't work because the hashes change everytime for the decal material

[quiet scroll]

the amount of times I've been jumpscared in the toolkit 💀 💀

[keen rivet]

Have you seen how it works lmao

It's so embarrassingly stupidly jank

[keen rivet]

I was trying to force every prop to use hardware lighting and stuff for stable hashes but I couldn't get it to :(

It seems like there's so many conditions for it

[drifting hinge]

the horror game

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison can i swap these out to remove the need for d3d9x.h

[subtle bison]

sure

[keen rivet]

and this doesnt exist, should i just remove it?

oh it was renamed was it?

[subtle bison]

hm i dont see this on the main branch

ik i have it on the fl9 branch

[keen rivet]

i was looking at your ff90 branch

wanted to compile and try it

the render_state_logger.h doesnt exist though

[subtle bison]

yeah its gone

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-binary/tree/fl90/source/fvf

[keen rivet]

should i just remove it and all usages of it then?

[subtle bison]

yeah, what file is this?

i dont see this on the latest commit in any of the fvf files or module

[keen rivet]

its in shader_hooks.cpp

[subtle bison]

ah i see

it shouldnt be breaking compilation unless you have them included in your solution

i've been manually adding and removing stuff so it doesnt get synced with git (not on purpose)

[keen rivet]

ah

yeah add them to the premake5.lua file

[subtle bison]

even when just doing regular testing? it would make more sense to update that file on main when i actually cherrypick stuff from other branches

[keen rivet]

ah i guess then lol

[subtle bison]

idk we probably need to come up with a rule on how we should be doing that

i went on seperate branches so i wouldnt submit broken stuff to the default branch

that or i can make a fork and just PR the changes

[keen rivet]

that makes sense lol i was just trying to see if i could try it and was just checking

[subtle bison]

yeah you're good lol

[keen rivet]

@subtle bison ayy im on shadermodel 1 and it does show up in remix

[subtle bison]

no FL change?

still dx9c?

[keen rivet]

im on shaderlevel 1

i'll try 3

[subtle bison]

i wasnt using a dxvk.conf in my testing

i was hoping i could get remix to hook all on its own by setting the right parameters but i didnt get that far

[keen rivet]

i dont see anything on shadermodel 3

[subtle bison]

so remix hooked here?

[keen rivet]

yeah

[subtle bison]

try shooting stuff

see if particles get skipped

[keen rivet]

theyre all not raytraced

[subtle bison]

yea thats intentional for right now

[subtle bison]

ill try to work more on it on wednesday

[keen rivet]

with raytracing off this is all i see

[subtle bison]

yea its testing

i was trying to figure out vertex buffer crashes

[keen rivet]

ah

[subtle bison]

rebuild on this commit

https://github.com/Xenthio/gmod-rtx-binary/commit/f6c6cd0dd45f2e41e94ebdd929f9afc40d2ace78

the world will render correctly

and try shooting guns on SM1

btw when you were testing SM1, did remix already hook before running ff_toggle?

[keen rivet]

no

i had capture vertices turned off

[keen rivet]

see missing hud

[quiet scroll]

Flying Hotel finished and packaging!

@lament quartz wut map did ur li lbro want?

[drifting hinge]

🫡

[quiet scroll]

i put 2 lil cute easter eggs in the map

[drifting hinge]

how much has he been cooking

[lament quartz]

Destructable town, lemme find the specific one

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1925136592

[drifting hinge]

oh this map reminds me of Robixn's DMM maps

[drifting hinge]

@quiet scroll is your Gm_Liminal_Bowling map remix mod still working since all the texture hashes got changed

[quiet scroll]

Epilepsy Warning

Ermmmm I gotta figure out why the waters flickering

I tried disabling rtx.io but that didn't fix

hmmmm

[drifting hinge]

this happened for me on my broken rtx install

clean reinstall from xenthios tutorial fixed that and mostly all other bugs i was having

[quiet scroll]

I bet there's a stray hl2 water texture that didn't get thrown in the mix, lemme see if he updated his water mod

[drifting hinge]

when flying hotel uploaded

[quiet scroll]

Uploaded, just waiting on moddb to approve https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-flying-hotel-rtx

I think liminal bowling was the old hl2.exe and I didn't have the captures to switch over

[drifting hinge]

yeah i tested it and there was no difference

[quiet scroll]

fakk xenthio's water mod's not updated yet

I'll do another captures folder of some water maps and see if that'll catch the stray and then run my hash switch python thingy

[quiet scroll]

Xenthio's water mod worked for you?

[drifting hinge]

oop the water also glitching

for me

[quiet scroll]

I almost wonder if it's the depth of the pool that's making it flicker and maybe it's a rendering/LOD thing. Like what's under the water's doing rendery stuffs

[drifting hinge]

also this happens underwater

[quiet scroll]

Yeah that's a hl2 map thing, gumball found a way to fix it but it'd have to be done on hammer per map

[drifting hinge]

yuck

whats the point if it cant be fixed through remix

[quiet scroll]

The pool complex mod has it fixed natively somehow

[drifting hinge]

the what complex

[quiet scroll]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/gm-pool-complex-v2-rtx/downloads/gm-pool-complex-v2-version-2 pool complex, fixed for the new hashes and you can see underwater without it turning into milk

[drifting hinge]

hell naw bro theres two versions on the workshop and one says jumpscare free bro no way the OG creator put a jumpscare inside the map

[quiet scroll]

when i tell u i lost my shitttt, he didn't mention there was a jumpscare when i was making it

[drifting hinge]

lol i aint risking that heart attack

[quiet scroll]

Oh wait, I can't fix the water.....if the water hash isn't captured in xenthio's mod, there's no reference to update the old hash with the new hash. Scranch was other maps doing the epylepsy ting for u?

[drifting hinge]

all maps have the benadryl water

@quiet scroll is 3d skybox enabled when you took that water glitch video

[quiet scroll]

i tried again with it on and off and still flicky flicky

[drifting hinge]

did you make sure the map has an actual 3d skybox

doing r_3dsky 1 on gm_bigcity_flooded removed the flicker

[quiet scroll]

yeah r_3dsky 1 no fix for me, but waitt omg all the waters flickering I swear it was working for me yesterday.

I'm gunna have to deep dive on this and see what's going on

🤪 time to start goin line by line

wut d heck it's all correctly changed

any ideas CR?

[drifting hinge]

still no download for flying hotel

[onyx ridge]

[subtle bison]

probably not all of the water textures are caught?

[keen rivet]

OH i know what this is

you need to disable rtxio

rtx.io.enabled = False
in dxvk.conf

i dont know WHY it causes that it just does

[quiet scroll]

Ahhhhhh the dxvk.conf, I was trying to disable it in the rtx.conf

lemme try it

fakk that didn't work either, rtx.io.enabled = False

To sidetrack, anyone wanna test the new .exe installer? I thiiiiiink it's greenlit to go

You can keep your current one separate by renaming it something like GarrysModRTXX

[subtle bison]

try using cheat engine's speed hack to slow down the game and verify with the remix runtime that every frame of that water texture has been replaced

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet you sure my FF renderer works? i'm on SM1 and its entirely black lol

shader capture is off too

[keen rivet]

Uhh

Pretty sure

I had to shoot once maybe

[subtle bison]

yea i was shooting a lot lol

remix hooked but there is nothing there

[keen rivet]

Oh huh

Interesting

[subtle bison]

wait i didnt try a fallback light

💀

[keen rivet]

Oh yeah lol

The sky was glowing for me though so I didn't need it

[subtle bison]

i forget tweaking fallback light will most certainly crash my game

what commit hash were you on when it worked?

[keen rivet]

Uhhhh

No idea lol

Latest at the time I tried it

[subtle bison]

oh ye sky autodetection works here wow

ngl i think this is still shader based lol

because it still works in the shader mode

ye i still had shader capture on, even with FVF on with shader disabled it goes completely black

a slightly newer commit sorta works?

it grabbed the camera but i cant select anything lol

sweet, guess we're on the right path

huh???

models do work???

yep, its probably a camera/world matrix issue but shit im glad models have been working this whole time lmfao

[subtle bison]

ok so vertex buffers seem to only be an issue when trying to render textures

not sure why its happening but the game crashes whenever i try to set them

a static color works fine though?

[lapis delta]

wait, so, will we be able to play on directx 9c?

[subtle bison]

maybe, depends if i can get this working all the way

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/failed-experiment-love-death-and-robots-failed-test-experiment-unsuccessful-no-time-to-celebrate-gif-22021895

inno setup compiler language is so ugly

[drifting hinge]

good morning gmod rtx peepol

[quiet scroll]

OH MY GOD IT WORKS AHHHHHHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/nasa-rover-curiosity-mars-robot-gif-21155609

i've been trying to figure out why the installer wasn't working, the code wasn't swooping up all the source files

gid meenin scraaaanch

[drifting hinge]

lol

wsg

[quiet scroll]

cooked severely, here's the installer if anyone wants to give it a test run

Spent 27 hours on dat shit

It comes with a screen configuration page where it'll modify the .bat file to run your resolution every time Users don't have to go in and manually edit anymoreee

wait i spoke too soon

arghhh what the heck, it hooks now atleast but it still must be either excluding source installation files or not overwriting with the patches correctly

[subtle bison]

https://tenor.com/view/zip-bomb-thanos-thanos-explain-zip-bomb-thanos-gif-351819195776728650

/s

[quiet scroll]

NO WAIT IT WORKS

for some reason gm_construct_rtx isn't loading in, but everything else works

[drifting hinge]

skurty can you test this map and see if its broken for you https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3220633082

[lapis delta]

does it more stable than xenthio's installation?

[quiet scroll]

it does just the same thing

[quiet scroll]

works for me, but it reminded me the water still needs fixing

[drifting hinge]

fuck all of the textures flicker in and out of existance for me

[quiet scroll]

erm backup your rtx.conf but here's the default gmodrtx rtx.conf, but if it's the same try mat_forcedynamic 1

[drifting hinge]

aight

[quiet scroll]

maybe there's textures needing to be tagged decal?

[drifting hinge]

usually you just have to do that with displacements

i did forcedynamic before trying your rtx.conf and it was fixed

sort of

[quiet scroll]

oh yeah that's a decal texture, there's sand hiding behind the grass

[steel lark]

i usually just ignore the displacement texture lol didn't know you could decal it

[drifting hinge]

yeah but how do i fix it

i cant see select any sand

[quiet scroll]

I guess the sand or the grass can be decal

if anyone wants to take a stab at the broken wa wa, here's the fixed hashes water mod

well, almost fixed, with 1 suspected issue texture

omg I've never seen fish in gmod before, like ever

[drifting hinge]

those are leeches bruv

[steel lark]

a guy on in AIDS (Addons In Development Server) is making a raw .vmf loader

[drifting hinge]

which does?

[steel lark]

idk if that would be good for something

[steel lark]

well it loads the .vmf into a mesh i think

[drifting hinge]

uh huh

[quiet scroll]

Flying hotel got approved

[drifting hinge]

cant wait for liminal bowling hash fix

:P

[quiet scroll]

True I really want to fix that one, lots of vibes

[drifting hinge]

its a nice looking map lol

[drifting hinge]

@quiet scroll will you ever remix and add pbr textures and stuff to weapon addons or vehicles?

[drifting hinge]

the black hole in question

[subtle bison]

iirc it doesnt have nodraws for its water

[subtle bison]

i think i might scrap the FF renderer ngl lol. Xenthio has some magic dlls from a older 64-bit build that still work on the latest version, so im probably gonna make hotpatches based on them.

everything works but cef but personally i think that's worth the tradeoff lol

[drifting hinge]

ten billion years and no remix fixes 2

[subtle bison]

no point in releasing something not currently better than 32-bit lol

[drifting hinge]

estimate release date: 2091

[drifting hinge]

when will fire effects be working again

if they arent already working and i have a busted rtx install again

[subtle bison]

^

[drifting hinge]

thanks CR

[quiet scroll]

I guess I should incorporate the rtx fixes mod by installing it manually

Gunna do this before dropping 0.5 today

CR do you add any additional launch options besides the regular script

I wonder if I could add a custom autoexec.cfg to the install as well

[drifting hinge]

mr skurtyy

[quiet scroll]

Uh right uhhhhh possibly CR was working on a beautifulllllll weapon pack for the mmod weeeepons

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Cooked harder than I ever could manually

[drifting hinge]

welll urhmmmm i literally uhhmmm like uhhh wanted to ask you if yuo could pretty up this nice car addon i found (i also found this other tfa base model 10 revolver that would look maybe nice with the pbr treatment)

but you never posted a mod like that before

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=242839723&searchtext=country+squire

the car in question

[quiet scroll]

A car and a weapons mod would go hard Yeee yeee ill add it to the list

[drifting hinge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375454158&searchtext=model+10

the model 10 also

[modern quest]

you're doing a great job skurts 😛

[quiet scroll]

Thanks! Hopefully will make the install as easy as possible eventually