Garry's Mod

[quiet scroll]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3384083598

These'll be all the addons that would've appeared, showed in any of my mods

[upbeat jewel]

just installing HL2 rq to test

[upbeat jewel]

bleh, my internet died. @quiet scroll here's the script

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/9efb38c87aea33feb4ca9ef4ba859fc4762e3db7c4779e856b9fd1aaacc463f7

I removed your -w and -h options, those probably shouldn't be there

oops, sorry, wrong exe.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file-analysis/YjI4ZDhmMjMxNTIzY2UyNDc4YTYyMmI2OGY0MDY5ZmU6MTczNDE3NjEyOA==

only detected by nobody AV's and not defender (I just used PS2EXE)

after running resulting folder should look like: (if you want it to also copy your mod files let me know)

[quiet scroll]

Yayyy it works! Thank you thank you But it launched really small lol

[upbeat jewel]

thats weird. the problem with adding the w / h options though is if the user doesn't have that resolution it might not work correctly

I guess maybe we can just say change your resolution once in game, if its not already exceedingly obvious

[quiet scroll]

It's perfect Another Watbulb w

[upbeat jewel]

heh, thanks. I can add the option later where if it detects the .exe file being run from the github folder it can also copy in the files based on where the user selects the location of gmod.exe

if you need to update the launch options in the script, just do that with the source copy and then run it through ps2exe. (you can't upload the shortcut to github, shortcuts can't use relative paths)

[quiet scroll]

Thanks! Do you have any page or place people can go to check you out for the credits?

[upbeat jewel]

just putting watbulb is fine enough

nbd, really

[quiet scroll]

RTX Remix Installer for GMOD 32bit
https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX

[upbeat jewel]

in fact the script already has my name so its completely fine.

[quiet scroll]

All done! It's my first time having a github page, so some stuff might not be right But it's all ready to try

[meager oar]

wats tis?

[upbeat jewel]

looks good to me. if there's any static files though (non-remix related) it might be worth putting them in the master branch as long as its not huge or a copyright problem

[meager oar]

ohh its a installer

[quiet scroll]

uhh what's a static file? 🫣

[upbeat jewel]

basically I mean things like your mod.usda's and things like that

then you can leverage github to track updates to your mods or what have you

[quiet scroll]

Ohhh gotchu gotchu, thanks!

[quiet scroll]

Yeahh an installer, will making downloading remix a LOT faster, and help new people get started without having to do it manually

I'll keep it updated with new remix releases and notable dxvk/bridge updates

[upbeat jewel]

I'll try it right now on a completely fresh system

[quiet scroll]

here we go folks, eeeeeek

[upbeat jewel]

@modern quest pin pls #1116089843479498782 message

[quiet scroll]

oops, already seeing some changes I can make - I'll use my rtx.conf file with all the pre-tagged textures and reset the default runtime settings

[upbeat jewel]

works for me so far, literally painless. I haven't tried any maps yet tho

[meager oar]

looks so goood with dlss quality 😍

[quiet scroll]

that's beautiful

[meager oar]

played with ultra perf dlss before with 40 fps man im loving 4070 super, big upgrade from 2080 super

[quiet scroll]

NO WAY, congrats popo

[meager oar]

tanks

[upbeat jewel]

@quiet scroll what is the pool map called

also the lego one

[quiet scroll]

Gm_Pool_Complex_v2, and Lego Treasure Island RTX

Weird, my old rtx.conf file isn't working to tag all my previous textures, things like decal/playermodel are all untagged, but my dlss quality and volumetrics are the same

But that's alright, I can go in and tag everything again, I have a fresh rtx.conf most the time because I accidentally delete it

[upbeat jewel]

so long as it doesn't change between resolutions, LODs, or with different mods installed should be good

otherwise that's gonna be real bad

[quiet scroll]

Very true, I'll keep it vanilla as possible

[upbeat jewel]

well what I mean is test for that. because if you tag everything and it only works under this very specific configuration or set of mods, whatever it may be, its going to need some working around to make sure that the remix mods will always work

[quiet scroll]

I'll make sure of it, this'll help a lot of people out

[upbeat jewel]

so far it seems like you and popo have lots of mods and stuff installed so far, so maybe it might be good to compile a list of known tested mods (that work well together)

then at least if its untested you can just say its probably not supported

oh, also make sure to put your steam mod page in the readme

[quiet scroll]

That's a good idea, most gmod maps tend to use the same textures, so having multiple map mods installed will probably cause things to start getting clumped together. But I can go in the mods and update the rtx.conf to adjust any issue textures. Source games have a lot of detail textures ontop of walls and stuff that make everything see-through

verison 0.2 possibly coming out tonight haha

[upbeat jewel]

@quiet scroll is this expected?

[quiet scroll]

[upbeat jewel]

oh I see, the rtx.conf doesn't really have anything in it ? \

[quiet scroll]

omg I wonder if the old hl2.exe is a custom .exe and it somehow detects it as a separate game, like the hashes

lemme try something real quick

damn u valve

[upbeat jewel]

is it available on a special game branch or something?

[quiet scroll]

Hmm xenthio probably knows, @keen rivet do you know why the hl2.exe is in/was in the gmod folder originally?

[upbeat jewel]

it still kinda works okay with alpha blending off

may be that all the mods need to be redone for the new hl2.exe

@quiet scroll so when you run it with the working hl2.exe, does it show up in task manager as hl2.exe or gmod.exe

im wondering with the change if its not applying these properly:
https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix/blob/2ca2a27b95fba7368f1ee6bd98168a710fb5cb8b/src/util/config/config.cpp#L460

were you relying on that before?

[quiet scroll]

Ooo lemme see

ahh, it shows up as Garry's Mod, gmod.exe

now I'll revert to my backup and open task manager

OH NOOOO that's what it issss, my backup has Garrysmod running as hl2.exe

they must've JUST released an update abandoning hl2.exe and switched to gmod.exe, that's why everyone's having issues recently

[upbeat jewel]

yep, makes sense

easy fix if thats the reason

take the code snippet I pasted above and extract all the hl2 options and put them in rtx.conf

if there's a non rtx. option put it in dxvk.conf

anyways, it still looks amazing with no mods at all and no alpha blending. really suprised. and thats without those settings applied

[quiet scroll]

Will do! I'll go update it now

I'm glad you're able to try it, gmod rtx is definitely the smoothest experience besides portal rtx for sure so far

[upbeat jewel]

I wasn't able to get it working with any of the hl2.exe's you sent me. so it could be that they literally dont use it anymore

but if that's true I have no idea why the FactoryReset-GMod.bat file says:

@echo off

::We don't want people running this in the wrong place
IF NOT EXIST ".\hl2.exe" (
    ECHO Game binary doesn't exist. Are you executing this script from the wrong directory?
    EXIT /B 1
)

[quiet scroll]

So strange, I wonder why they didn't make an announcement about it, just quietly dropped hl2.

I should head to bed and eep, thank you SOOOOO much for your help today watbulb, you the best I'll pick back on it tomorrow, and hopefully figure out a way to fix the install

[upbeat jewel]

yeah no problem

this is fucking bonkers

no mods

[quiet scroll]

I am SOOOO excited for you to see that map with my mod (if u want of course lol), it totally changes the feel of everything

[potent agate]

so the reason everything is broken is because they switched it to gmod.exe?

[upbeat jewel]

probably, and remix internally expects hl2.exe for support. So this needs to be done: #1116089843479498782 message

[lament quartz]

fr?

[upbeat jewel]

Just follow #1116089843479498782 message

Skurty will fix the mod compatibility problem with the new gmod.exe soon since gmod doesn’t seem to use hl2.exe anymore

[willow folio]

Alright

[lament quartz]

omg thank you guys it works now !!!

sorta at least lol

[upbeat jewel]

Turn off alpha blended in the remix options

Should help a bit until we get proper mods translated or we fix the rtx.conf

Gm_Pool_Complex_v2 with alpha blending disabled works well with no mods

Also enable view model under game setup

[subtle bison]

best to use the existing rtx.conf in xenthios video

or mine

[upbeat jewel]

The problem is remix applies hardcoded options to the rtx.conf only for hl2.exe. Gmod no longer renders with hl2.exe on the latest builds

[subtle bison]

ah, totally missed that

[upbeat jewel]

Np, basically we need to just #1116089843479498782 message

And hopefully it should work with gmod.exe. We tried copying all the past versions of hl2.exe into the latest gmod build and it doesn’t seem to use it 🤷‍♂️

[subtle bison]

they probably incorporated all the same changes they did with the 64-bit branch

[lament quartz]

it does seem to be a config issue lol

[subtle bison]

does the patcher still work on the 32-bit binaries?

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah hopefully 🙏

I think so, but I think only for hl2.exe?

And gmod won’t execute it anymore …

[subtle bison]

iirc it only looks for the folder structures and not the executable

[upbeat jewel]

Oh okay, then I’m not clear. Honestly haven’t looked at the patcher at all

But I presume skurty tried using it with limited success

And we can’t copy the real hl2.exe if it’s gone now.

[meager oar]

wait does the change to gmod.exe made gmod stop wrking for sum people?

[subtle bison]

ill try looking into it a bit, im still using an older build not updated by steam

maybe for now we can recommend people to downgrade the game using steam depots?

[upbeat jewel]

Well basically it doesn’t use hl2.exe anymore, and remix applies hardcoded options to the game when using hl2.exe #1116089843479498782 message

@meager oar

I think we can just use CRs config for now

But we should port those options to a new one

[meager oar]

i have the latest gmod though

[upbeat jewel]

Yes, but what version of hl2.exe do you have

[meager oar]

idk it says gmod.exe there

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah that makes sense, let’s see your config

I bet you have the old hl2.exe options in there

[meager oar]

rtx.conf?

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah

[subtle bison]

working on my own fork of rtx remix fixes, adding a culling system that should help with maps bottlenecked by drawcalls

very early but i got some code that seems to work

[upbeat jewel]

@meager oar yeah thats why, your config uses the old hardcoded options which were saved into it from when you used to use the old version

[meager oar]

dayum

[upbeat jewel]

#1116089843479498782 message

in that code, it says is the target application hl2.exe? if yes allow these options to be hardcoded and saved

so they will never get saved if its only gmod.exe

so you kinda got lucky

[upbeat jewel]

wow nice 👍

@subtle bison what are you using as an adapter into rtx? the bridge API? some kind of lua FFI?

[subtle bison]

entirely lua

[upbeat jewel]

im just going off the filenames so I could be toally off

yeah but are you controlling the runtime in any capacity from lua?

[subtle bison]

nope

[upbeat jewel]

ah I see

thats cool

[subtle bison]

if feasable i could go in that direction, but early days for sure

i want it to be like the visleaf system that xoxor4d has

less agressive than what i have now

[upbeat jewel]

that's pretty cool. What's the strategy you need to use in this engine from lua? Do you just mark leafs as visible? Does the lua framework give you that much control??

[subtle bison]

im not sure yet, I want to see how much I can get away with with the existing lua framework. on the technical end, I do not know much about how leafs actually work other than seeing how they work in xoxor4d's mod. So most of this is gonna be a learning process

😅

[upbeat jewel]

ah okay. neat. curious to see what you find out.

I presume there is just no "disableVis" type option?

[subtle bison]

not as far as i know.

[upbeat jewel]

I haven't looked into visleaf stuff in a long time, but this is a pretty cool video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfCRHSIg6zo&pp=ygUYcXVha2UgdmlzaWJpbGl0eSBjdWxsaW5n (and well researched)

[lament quartz]

ive watched that video a thousand times and its really reliable

[upbeat jewel]

yeah it has really nice visualizations

like criminally good

one interesting part about it all, is if you remove all the portals from the visibility tree, it should pass all the leafs through because there is only one portal between A and B. Thus only two planes

this is a similar technique to what was done for COD 2

[lament quartz]

weve tried locking pvs in my other (on hold) project unfortunately removing them only locks it to one area

[upbeat jewel]

the downside of this approach is if it uses precompiled BSPs, they need to be recompiled without portals

[upbeat jewel]

@subtle bison https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Areaportal

you try r_portalsopenall 1 and r_portalscloseall or r_DrawPortals 0/1?

[subtle bison]

those work fine for maps that use them but the ones that dont have horrible perf, which is where something dynamic needs to be put in place

[upbeat jewel]

ah yeah makes sense. the BSP needs to be compiled to support it

[subtle bison]

gm_cosmodrome is a good example of a map that just says fuck it and renders everything

this is on a 7950X3D lol

[upbeat jewel]

would be good to make a shortlist of those if you can remember any. we desperately need to use those maps for remix until we can otherwise get it working

the indoor ones work alright though

[subtle bison]

yeah, even some outdoor maps work well because they make clever use of areaportals and some enforced lod control

[subtle bison]

ill try to, i can only think of that map atm

[upbeat jewel]

im guessing recompiling BSPs is no simple task

asking as a completely clueless individual

[subtle bison]

you can decompile the map and manually add areaportals but it would be preferrable if we didnt have to do that

[upbeat jewel]

yeah def. makes me wonder if it would be possible to do it in some automated fashion provided there is a robust BSP reader framework

but yeah I agree

[subtle bison]

yeah if i can do it in lua that would be amazing

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2861839844&searchtext=niknaks

[upbeat jewel]

I wonder how much of that is exposed through the scripting support 🤔. there's so much lua mod stuff for this game floating around it makes my head hurt

[subtle bison]

[subtle bison]

https://github.com/Nak2/NikNaks/wiki/BSP-Parser

looks like it has visleaf, pvs, and more

[upbeat jewel]

wow thats really cool. im total ass at lua but im happy this exists

[subtle bison]

hmm i wonder if creating some kind of cache system is the way to go here.
load all area portals if there are any, read the visleaf/pvs data, cache it, unload all of it, draw it dynamically

very simple overview but it sounds like a feasable idea?

[upbeat jewel]

this seems interesting: https://github.com/Nak2/NikNaks/wiki/PVS-and-PAS#pvs

Removes a VisLeaf from a PVS.

[lament quartz]

is this only for source game bsp?

[upbeat jewel]

depending on how all this is implemented on thee NikNak side I would sort of expect you could parse this before level load, and spit out a BSP to pass to the BSP loader with the applied changes

[upbeat jewel]

this might do something unexpected and remove all the leavs leaving nothing to draw. one method could be to add all the leafs to a single PVS

I also forget the difference between PVS and PAS

oh PAS (Potentially Audible Set)

[upbeat jewel]

the creator just says garrys mod, but I would imagine it would kinda work with almost any source game that doesn't do anything too weird

[lament quartz]

so not a q3 game

[subtle bison]

probably wouldnt use this here for flatgrass or any wide open maps, but i also added distance culling

still only for props, npcs, and ragdolls but hey it still makes a pretty good fps difference

[upbeat jewel]

Not sure sorry. 😞

[upbeat jewel]

stupid ahhh discord mobile shows paused video 🙃

[subtle bison]

probably because it's encoded as hvec

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah it works on desktop

[subtle bison]

so did a new build of dxvk-remix fix emission from particles?

i did nothing to my game to make fire emission work

[upbeat jewel]

Which one were you using before?

[subtle bison]

something from months ago

i updated it about a week ago but i havent messed with fire until now

[upbeat jewel]

strange

[upbeat jewel]

okay I was able to get gm_pool_complex_v2 working almost completely with POPO's config.

@quiet scroll you'll need to compare his config with yours, and extract the options from the config.cpp file to just double check, and it should work then for gmod.exe

[lament quartz]

how do you guys get the third person pms to show up? i only can get the arms to have shadows

@meager oar

[meager oar]

Enable pseudo player model option In the q menu/utilities/user/RTX

Then select the pm as player model texture in rtx remix menu

Oh and you need rtx remix fixes addon by Xentho aswell

[lament quartz]

i have rtx remix addons in my addons tab but nothing in utilities

[subtle bison]

try installing it as an archive instead of a workshop addon

#1116089843479498782 message

[meager oar]

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2861839844 do u have this aswell?

[lament quartz]

i dont

[meager oar]

yea rtx remix fixes need tat

[lament quartz]

ah

[lament quartz]

now i have both the pm and view model mashing together

[meager oar]

hmm try disabling psuedoweapon option maybe

[subtle bison]

make sure view model is enabled in the remix runtime

i can see your physgun clipping with the ground

[lament quartz]

thanks, that fixed it

[upbeat jewel]

🤯 @quiet scroll works with the hl2 config (you also need to include the xenthio fixes mod and niknaks on github)

[dense crow]

does anyone else seem to have a problem where the game doesnt respond to any kind of input and doesnt have sound? has this been asked before?

[upbeat jewel]

you're probably using a incompatible dxvk version or config. checkout the steps here: https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX. and make sure you have xenthio's rtx fixes mod and niknaks installed from the workshop

for a config, give this a try

(replace the one GmodRTX comes with for now)

[modern quest]

do i get a credit for pinning it? 😛

[upbeat jewel]

seems reasonable to me

Kim: saves us from typing many words

[dense crow]

Grahhh! thank you >:3

[upbeat jewel]

no problem, let me know how it goes. that repo literally just went online last night. and we still need to merge the config changes. but hopefully thats it. you'd be one of the first testers

tl;dr gmod doesn't really use hl2.exe anymore

[dense crow]

i was probably doing something wrong anyway cuz i was just trying to hobble together the guide from memory

[upbeat jewel]

oh, its just asking you where your hl2.exe is installed. do you have hl2? if not I can help with that. we'll probably disable that now that we know for sure latest gmod doesn't use hl2.exe anymore

[dense crow]

oh real?

so i can just put it in wherever?

[upbeat jewel]

so basically, if you have hl2, you can just click hl2.exe wherever its installed, for that window. if you don't, you'll need to create a shortcut to gmod.exe called gmod.rtx.exe in the same folder as gmod.exe. if you do this, edit the properties of the shortcut to make the target say something like:
D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\GarrysMod\gmod.exe -dxlevel 90 -nod3d9ex +mat_dxlevel 90 +mat_disable_d3d9ex 1 -noborder -windowed +sv_cheats 1 +r_3dsky 0 +r_WaterDrawReflection 0 +r_WaterDrawRefraction 0 +mat_softwareskin 0 +r_shadows 0 +r_frustumcullworld

you still need to follow the steps in the readme, all that installer does for now is copies hl2.exe and creates a shortcut with those options. in the future it will do more

[dense crow]

nah 'sall good i got hl2

[upbeat jewel]

but yeah to be clear gmod doesnt use hl2.exe anymore, but we just found this out

[dense crow]

ill just install it and continue with the guide

unless theres questions arising

IS WORKING

GRAH

uhh

what do you do when this happens again??

[upbeat jewel]

you may need to select some stuff manually in the textures list, like the sky texture, some stuff probably needs to be updated for the rtx.conf

#1116089843479498782 message
#1116089843479498782 message
try these configs

[dense crow]

gotta ask! the render target thingys.... do they do anything rn?

[upbeat jewel]

or CRs #1116089843479498782 message

nah not for that, render targets are for security camera style things, or televisions

[dense crow]

is maybe something up with rtx overlay?

i cant even click on any of the textures on screen

maybe the game is supposed to be in a different window mode?

[upbeat jewel]

well, for sure you'll need to set the resolution to whatever is appropriate.

you can do fullscreen or window, shouldn't matter

a good rule of thumb is to disable overlays as its not known what they will do

[dense crow]

no i meant

how do I check if the rtx remix is outputting anything

[upbeat jewel]

well how did you get this?

[dense crow]

because the texture selection doesnt work and nothing becomes gray/highlighted

[dense crow]

i can only click on stuff in the menu

sorry if im not providing enough information

ill try to record a clip if i can

I have discovered that going underwater makes the rtx remix actually kick in for some reason??

yup, theres something that's disabling the whole runtime when im not out of bounds

[upbeat jewel]

this should be the whole install process.

[dense crow]

ohhhhhh!

[upbeat jewel]

its kinda buggy on that map, no replacements loaded for me, but yeah

[dense crow]

i did do one thing differently

[dense crow]

found another person with similar thing

[subtle bison]

this took way too many hours but I was able to use BSP info from niknaks to identify static props
I really hope I can cull these, they're baked with the map

[upbeat jewel]

oh nice! did you use that BSP reader thing?

[subtle bison]

yeah, my next to-do if possible is have the addon control all map culling

not sure if having engine culling disabled breaks this as we currently have it disabled in our launch options

[loud mural]

Does anyone know why the mirror texture isn't working, I've installed RTX remix on gmod plenty of times and it's never not worked

Also I'm unable to select my eyes as any kind of texture

[subtle bison]

did you add the actual replacement texture to rtx-remix/mods?
https://xenthio.github.io/stuff/Optional-RTXRemixEmissives-v1.zip

oops meant this one
https://xenthio.github.io/stuff/RTXRemixMirror-v1.zip

[loud mural]

Yup

[subtle bison]

are your replacements enabled?

[loud mural]

Water doesn't work for me either oddly enough

[loud mural]

Yup

[subtle bison]

maybe verify the gmod you have running is matching the same dir you're in

[loud mural]

It's certainly the same one because I only have one gmod install on this machine

[subtle bison]

ive accidentally installed gmod twice on 2 drives and had a fun time trying to figure out why remix wasnt working

[loud mural]

Fun

[subtle bison]

uhh maybe its your texture quality?

the hashes will change depending on what your picmip level is at
mine is at 0 so i guess the default

[loud mural]

nvm you are correct I do have two installs

Although I just checked the other and it has no remix stuff in it

[loud mural]

Ahh okay let me check that

[loud mural]

Mine is also 0

[subtle bison]

what does your texture quality show to be in the video settings

[loud mural]

High

and shader level is also high

[subtle bison]

yeah same here

folder permission issues maybe?

could try running steam or the game as admin

[loud mural]

I can run it as admin but not as Steam since I don't want my steam cloud or workshop items to download

I've been doing this for a while now and it's always worked until now. Also idk why my viewmodel fov is so high and I'm unable to change it

The .bat doesn't seem to want to run in administrator mode for some reason

[subtle bison]

maybe its in relation to having gmod's executable name being changed in the latest update? a lot of people are having weird issues
#1116089843479498782 message

[loud mural]

Fun

[subtle bison]

im still using an older build so i dont have any experience with fixing it

[loud mural]

Ahhhh okay

That makes sense

I heard there was new volumetric fog and I wanted to check that out

It seems all the texture hashes have changed because none of Xenthio's ignored textures work in his rtx.conf

[lament quartz]

it is

[quiet scroll]

YAY!! I'll go ahead and extract those hl2 settings from the github into the rtxconf/dxvk

And update the github, 0.2 should fix all the enchancements not showing up

[modern quest]

will the installer be made open source btw?

[subtle bison]

getting started with PVS, debug view is the 9th circle of hell

think remix is getting in the way lol

[modern quest]

can't you just toggle RT in that case?

[subtle bison]

for some reason, even in the latest debug optimized builds, im missing the option

it shows in other source games though lol

[stable scarab]

@quiet scroll really thanks for doing this!. il give it a try later and see how it work!!

[modern sparrow]

whenever /the if 64 bit patch gets finished one of the first maps id check out is this though that provides a question am i going to have to decomp and put all the addons i want into a different install? cause i normally like make a copy of the game im using RTX on well the few times ive used RTX that is.

[map name for the curious though is "Fringe (Halo 2-Themed)"]

[quiet scroll]

You got it! I should have 0.2 up today, right now the download works, but the rtx.conf doesn't help with gmod yet, but we got a new one coming

[quiet scroll]

I should probably specify that while it does install gmod rtx, it'll also include rtx.conf and steam workshop items that pertain to my mods. GmodRTX alone might be a little misleading. If they didn't want the mods all they'd have to do is unsubscribe, or not subscribe to those in the list. The rtx.conf is just a really, really fleshed out rtx.conf file I've had playing for a year now lol.

[quiet scroll]

0.2's out! If anyone's yet to download this'll work https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX

[modern quest]

@upbeat jewel would you mind open sourcing the installer? it seems like a nice framework to use for other games as well

[keen rivet]

facepunch just renamed it from hl2 to gmod

recent change

[lament quartz]

So we get gmod maps n pbr such?

[quiet scroll]

It'll only subscribe you to all the maps used in my ModDB, but it won't come with the PBR packs. Because hl2 and the source games mush all the textures together, having all of them in the runtime would probably look very wrong

[lament quartz]

Ah

[quiet scroll]

w charlie

[lament quartz]

So does 64 bit gmod work?

[quiet scroll]

Barely, you can load into maps and get it intalled, but it's veryyyy broken. Firing your weapon crashes the game, and some other things I can't remember. But yeah, we just need 64bit patches

[meager oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I01IK3dlewM

[quiet scroll]

Holy fuck, that's like shit AAA studios try to aim for

Hmmmm what do y'all think? Keep it white or give the sun some color for construct_rtx

[meager oar]

Abit color, I use 1.000, 0.900 and 0.800 values for noon sun, it's not noticeble much but it adds a bit of yellowish tint

[quiet scroll]

Oh yeah that's perfect, I'll use that and set the intensity at 3 to give newcomers some fanfare if it's the first map they load into

[wind yoke]

My oled says the darks are too dark.

[lapis delta]

reference mode?

[lament quartz]

No clue

Probably not

[modern quest]

reference mode for the denoiser, it accumulates the RT information over a period of time

you can turn it on in the developer menu

[upbeat jewel]

I can just give you the source code since it changes so much per game. We shouldn't even be copying the hl2.exe anymore so its kinda useless atm unless I expand it to do more things, like copying specific mods from a list, downloading them, and verifying them in-place.

its very simple actually, you can just make your own. like I said, made this in 5 seconds

@quiet scroll I will test 0.2 rn. I thought about submitting a PR to just make it do a regex lookup for (hl2|gmod)\\.exe, but I don't think that's the right way. Having config options applied no matter what by the runtime is kinda annoying, but I can see why they did it for portal and half-life. Better to just have a reference config with those options.

[quiet scroll]

Sounds good! I forgot to take out the gmod.rtx.installer.exe from 0.2, but other than that the rtx.conf should get people going with everything looking right now

[upbeat jewel]

I'll just give you a new copy that makes the shortcut, no need to take it out

[quiet scroll]

Ahh gotcha

[upbeat jewel]

https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX/pull/1 pls accept

[quiet scroll]

THANK YOU! Glad you appear in the contributors section know, was tryna figure out how to add manually lol

[upbeat jewel]

works fine. shows up exactly how it should in gm_construct. no mods loaded of course.

@quiet scroll how do I load a glass orb?

pool room is crazy

[quiet scroll]

Gotchu, I'll make a new a new mod for it, my old crystal ball mod had addon dependent meshes, these should be for default gmod

[upbeat jewel]

maybe triangle culling in the remix options is on?

at least you can see all the text for the leafs, which is sick

[quiet scroll]

Here they areee, on the gmod Q menu if you search ball it'll be these that are spheres, I did a mixture of different reflectiveness/thickness for variety

[upbeat jewel]

awesome, thank you

[quiet scroll]

https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX/releases/tag/v0.3-alpha 0.3's live, watbulb kindly updated the installer, no hl2.exe needed anymore, just need to point to gmod.exe rtx.conf polished a bit more

[upbeat jewel]

@dense crow these steps should work better

[quiet scroll]

https://www.moddb.com/groups/rtx-remix-modding/downloads/gm-construct-rtx

[lapis delta]

whats the problem?

[quiet scroll]

What method did you install?

[lapis delta]

yours with that installer

[quiet scroll]

The latest one?

[lapis delta]

ye

0.3

[quiet scroll]

Lemme check it real quick

Hmm it works fine for me. Did you unzip the download and place all the files in your gmod directory and run the gmod.rtx.installer.exe?

you'll launch the game with the new gmod.rtx.exe it creates

[lapis delta]

yea

did it all

[quiet scroll]

What’s your gmod folder look like? You might’ve had to click yes to overwrite files if asked when moving the files in the directory

[lapis delta]

can't show it now, but i unpacked everything that was in the zip directly into the gmod folder

i mean, game folder

[quiet scroll]

You might have to do a clean install of gmod, they recently removed hl2.exe and now it’s just gmod.exe

[fast epoch]

pg3d

[peak rover]

question what is this

[quiet scroll]

An easier way to download GmodRTX

[peak rover]

so you just use the installer and thats it?

[quiet scroll]

Run the installer .exe and just drag and drop the other files in

[visual rover]

can you drive that too?

[meager oar]

Yus

[dense crow]

wahooo

[near tartan]

Remix Fixes stopped working?

[lapis delta]

nuh uh, i just copied rtx remix fixes on that version and now its working!

and maybe even better

i think

cuz still it didn't crash

[stable scarab]

u like alot that npc model!

[dense crow]

good job its really nice so far!

[dense crow]

i guess its not very useful because i dont know what was causing issues

[upbeat jewel]

no worries. happy its working now 👍. looks good

[subtle bison]

ok so its my code

[subtle bison]

hello PVS

now just need to get the culling to work with it and then optimize the hell out of it

[lament quartz]

Hello light leaks

[quiet scroll]

CR COOKED!!

[subtle bison]

first baked map prop to be culled (the doll)

for some reason it doesnt work in other maps with baked props but this is big progress lol

the view culling seen here is just for debug because it would be too hard to debug with PVS instead lol

i also might take a break from this and focus on the particle system and see what can be done to make x64 gmod not crash 🙂

[wind yoke]

The sun...

[visual rover]

isnt garrys mod kinda bad for Remix i mean if u were to choose gamemodes etc they all use different assets? Idk the game

[lament quartz]

Not really? It's a really good game for rtx

[visual rover]

im sorry i never played it. So its uneducated guess

can i buy the 32bit version of the game on steam?

[upbeat jewel]

of course. I mean it's true there are going to be assets in online matches which wont get the full PBR treatment, but the game works well under remix regardless. #1116089843479498782 message in this image here, I don't have any mods or PBR replacements loaded, this is just remix rendering the standard map and it's lights (i just had to mark the wall as a decal, thats all)

and yes

even better if you load into a map with replacements. you could make a server for your friends that only allows the same map content, and you'd just make sure everyone has the right mod. if they dont have the mod it could still work okay

[visual rover]

oh eow thats insane.

how to buy 32 bit tho.

you maybe just sold the game for me.

[upbeat jewel]

I think you literally just buy it on steam. To the best of my knowledge it already is 32bit

You’d need to go into the steam branch builds thing to flip it to 64bit

[quiet scroll]

Yeah gmod on the steam store comes 32bit, if you right click it and go to the beta's section you can enable 64bit, but 32bit is more stable with Remix

[visual rover]

Cant a 32bit app only use 4gb ram max?

[quiet scroll]

Remix isn't limited by any of that

[visual rover]

lol what a hack

[willow fog]

The remix bridge translates the 32 bit directx 9 calls to 64 bit and then sends it to the actual runtime which is a 64 bit process.

[visual rover]

so basically smart stuff

[willow fog]

Yes

[visual rover]

ngl now that theres a installer i might get gmod.

[meager oar]

da heck is RR doin here

[modern quest]

that looks like the displacement strength is way too high, so RR just doesn't know what to do with it

[visual rover]

maybe its just stupid

Whats up with cars in garrys mod lol

https://youtu.be/TPgk8mzeUCA?si=nu8J99Mxv_etM1_4

can anyone try this with rtx remix lol imagine it Looks Better than the actually sa remix

[meager oar]

nah its not the pom, for sum reason the hdri sun is buggy on RR wch is causing all ths noise

[upbeat jewel]

looks like the light is too strong

its over sampling

[meager oar]

yea CR has a way to fix it but that software he uses its on linux only i think 😦

[upbeat jewel]

you might be able to reduce emissve intensity or something in the lighting tab

but yeah idk how its implemented, or turn down sky brightness? there should be a HDR toggle in sky tuning

[meager oar]

yea i did but didnt solve it

[upbeat jewel]

oh weird, yeah must be ultra strong

@meager oar maybe importance sampled instead of Restir GI?

[meager oar]

didnt wrk

[upbeat jewel]

rip

[subtle bison]

infmap doesnt work with remix currently

i think someone had limited success on the x64 branch but it was very unstable

[subtle bison]

iirc remix doesnt properly support 32-bit integers from HDRI images so you have to slightly compress its dynamic range so its 16-bit instead. might be wrong on that explanation but i believe mark explained it a bit ago

the method is pinned, its a bit difficult but it's the only way I've been able to fix it while maintaining dynamic range

i tried to make a script that does it all for you but i haven't gotten around to finishing it

[hollow marten]

Hello everyone I would very much like to shoot my GMOD MACHINIMA, in RTX REMIX format. But it doesn't work well, not which NPCs have white eyes, etc. I really want Harris Mod to work with RTX REMIX, with mods correctly.

[subtle bison]

would be a miracle to get eye rendering working lol

would have to port whatever changes portal prelude rtx did

[half viper]

can we ask david about it?

ill do it anyway

[livid rapids]

has anyone got the raytracing toggle working with gmod

I switched to debugoptimized but still haven't got it

[half viper]

@past notch what kind of changes were made to the portal rtx prelude to enable eye rendering in remix?

[subtle bison]

yeah i have the same issue, not sure why it's only gmod that's affected

[livid rapids]

found it

but I'm wondering how would it pick up gmod.exe?

and there it is

rtx.showRaytracingOption = True

[subtle bison]

yep worked for me

ty

[past notch]

I'm not exactly certain, sorry!

[subtle bison]

i can try looking into it at some point

[near tartan]

remix fixes not working sinice the new runtime, is this issue known?

@keen rivet

iirc you made them, just want to let you know

[subtle bison]

use my config file that was sent a few days ago

gmod got an update that changed its exe name and broke stuff

remix fixes is fine

[subtle bison]

^

[near tartan]

Thanks

[lapis delta]

rtx.conf?

[upbeat jewel]

They were using the old config. Gmod no longer runs as hl2.exe so that option is automatically applied now on 0.6 or later

You need to use the config included in skurtys gmod rtx if you want all those hl2 options but for gmod now

Unless you still have the old config (or are still using the old hl2.exe)

[livid rapids]

Yeah

Seems skurty's and xenthio's config has it disabled

[upbeat jewel]

@quiet scroll heh, when you copied the options, I guess I should have clarified don't copy the rtx.showRaytracingOption = False

[quiet scroll]

Oops! Nah it was all me, will fix in the next update

I'm going to add a glass mod in the next update, there's a considerable amount of glass, adding it should take no time

[meager oar]

heres my conf with the showraytracing option enabled if anyone wants

[upbeat jewel]

you could just add rtx.showRaytracingOption = True to any config ...
what maps does your config work on?

[subtle bison]

i looked into it, they most likely forced the dx6 fallback for dx9 for the eyes

im testing this on another branch of source and will see if it works

[glossy mauve]

rp_christmastown

[subtle bison]

changes do not seamlessly apply to gmod...

vgui is completely busted too, remix isnt even injected

will probably have to inject my changes rather than completely overriding the stdshader_dx9.dll

fun

[subtle bison]

seems to be working with dx8 FL?

will need to try with remix

eyes still working with dx7 as well
hopes are definitely up

🥹

i swear i will figure this out

im glad at least gmod x64 loads a foreign stdshader_dx9 file

hu they dont even show with RT off. this is really weird since they work without remix injecting

[meager oar]

https://tenor.com/view/the-undertaker-rolls-eyes-smack-down-wwe-wwe2007-gif-17660806

[near tartan]

Iirc (considering gmod is built off hl2) the way half life 2 does eyes is by using two textures. One for the eyeball without the pupil and the pupiel is added on top of the static eyeball texture and follows a view point. So the eye might look like that because it’s not rendering both textures correctly, or not rendering one of the 2

Idk if that’ll help

[subtle bison]

the eyeball is rendering fine but yeah the pupil seems to have issues, remix does see it

I most likely need to change how the pupil gets rendered

[near tartan]

It looks like remix recognizes the people as just one whole texture

Considering in both toolkit and game set up they pop up as a whole and you can’t individually click on just the eye

If you just separate the eye and the person that might fix it alone

The best way to test that is to somehow get a person with the pupil and see if you can click on the eye and the body separately

It is a weird issue

I’ve launched the game before and it was able to render the pupli

And then I started it an hour later and then they were missing

[near tartan]

That didn't work

[drifting hinge]

did anyone ever have a bug where all texture hashes are personalized and different from the ones mods use

[quiet scroll]

Yes, recently discovered that all of the old mods were built on hl2.exe that would read a config, rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True. Now that it's just gmod.exe, they'll all be new hashes, plus they're getting rid of the obsolete=true soon.

So for now, place rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True in your rtx.conf file, but just know this is a temporary fix until we figure out what to do

[drifting hinge]

you're a lifesaver thanks

[lament quartz]

Are the hashes unique per game?

[quiet scroll]

It looks like, they don't match my old captures

(ignore the .png, upscale that took the hash name)

[lament quartz]

But do they change every time you boot up the game?

[quiet scroll]

uhhh lemme see

Yep they match

[lament quartz]

That's good at least

[quiet scroll]

The one on the far left is from the .hl2 based gmod, all the old mods would need to be updated

[drifting hinge]

another bug the viewmodel is moved forwards
id appreciate any help

[quiet scroll]

Try this .conf, it's obsolete but it should have the correct camera positions

[drifting hinge]

thanks

lol one problem solved another takes its place now the useobsoletehashontextureupload doesnt do anything

[half viper]

what the fuck have i done

if only this shit would work

[meager oar]

da heck are u doin

[half viper]

something :3

[steel lark]

interloper c ahh map

[glossy mauve]

me trying to make snow without having ever seen it in my life

[quiet scroll]

gmod rtx made my most played this year

[jade edge]

Love to see my boy Sackboy in your emotes

https://tenor.com/view/happy-joy-little-big-planet-sackboy-gif-27302665

Huge fan of LBP series since 2015 (when i got PS3 where LBP1 was installed, and some time later got into LBP2 before 2017 when PS3 was sold by parents in favor of PS4 for which i got LBP3 only in 2019)

Those greats days of Playstation 3 having free mutliplayer (which became locked for PS+ on PS4/5)...

Nothing beats the feeling of random player joining your Pod and start endlessly slapping you without a dare to stop

[stable scarab]

so after installing il getting this and idk why or what its causing this...

maybe a conflict?

[loud mural]

Watch the end of this^ (5:43)

Those are detail textures you want to ignore

[lament quartz]

Looka like some things aren't marked as decal textures or ignored

[stable scarab]

ok il try

and how can i fix my player model shadow?

[loud mural]

I assume your using some gmod legs addon or something right?

[lament quartz]

Nah, xenithos mod has a pseudo playermodel setting

Xenitho*

Xenthio*

[lament quartz]

^

[stable scarab]

yeah

[loud mural]

Yeah just enabling pseudoplayer won't help you in the case

I also assume you want to still see your legs themselves right?

There used to be a fix somewhere for this but I don't remember where it was posted in this thread

Okay I found it

Are your legs tagged as playermodel?

You could maybe try something like this although idk if it will work since I don't have a gmod install atm to test with

[stable scarab]

i fixed by disabling gmod legs

so now i need to kow if is exist a fix to the drastically culling issue in gmod...

like this for example...

[half viper]

uhhh

you are on x64 beta right?

the 64bit patches are incomplete, the ones that disable culling

[drifting hinge]

bug with different texture hashes than what mods and rtx.conf uses happened again
rtx.conf and mods dont work because texture hash is different

[upbeat jewel]

Durant is using the rtx.conf from skurtys repo with the old hashing method

So no

Shouldn’t be too different at least

[stable scarab]

So wich one i have to use?

[upbeat jewel]

I’m saying that’s probably not the problem

[stable scarab]

btw if i use the "beta x64 chronium" remix even open anymore

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah cause the 64 bit build isn’t supported

[stable scarab]

so there is no fix for the culling issue right now?

[upbeat jewel]

Well it depends what the problem is because you aren’t showing what’s wrong very well

Does it happen with enhancements disabled?

Need some info lol

[stable scarab]

yeah in any instance, wait il show better with a video

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah if it happens with enhancement disabled it isn’t a hashing thing. Probably some bug. Idk you should be able to disable culling, but some maps don’t let you

I’ve played several gmod maps over the last few days with no culling problems

So double check the map and your config

Some maps will force cull if they use a bunch of hardcoded portals that can’t be turned off

And yeah don’t use 64 bit

Can also try setting disappearing stuff as decal

[subtle bison]

64-bit has incomplete engine patches so there is culling and particle crashing issues

[stable scarab]

well now for some reason my game opens but crashes after the main menu lol, so i would re-install the whole thing

[upbeat jewel]

Yeah well I wasn’t expecting him to be on the 64 bit branch

Bro you gotta stop doing random shit

Just follow the install 😅

[subtle bison]

ideally we want to be 64-bit as we would no longer need to rely on the bridge (it causes a lot of issues with gmod lol). in addition to all of the benefits of the engine being 64-bit

if i get time this weekend i can investigate what i can do with lua to address some the existing problems

[stable scarab]

yeah maybe changing to the beta x64 broke my gmod compatibility with remix so now crashes

[upbeat jewel]

Heh. I’m all fairness the skurty mod does say only works on 32bit. But yeah best to re install. Crap happens

[stable scarab]

il could try that, in some maps like hl1/hl2 the culling its soo annoying

[upbeat jewel]

Does it just crash all the time or what? If it does crash can we even figure out why? Like are there pdbs or source?

[subtle bison]

there are pdb's for other 64-bit source games but unfortunately they dont line up with gmod at all

i hsve already tried porting patches, the compiler differences make it stupid difficult

[upbeat jewel]

Damn that’s rough

I really would have figured with all the gmod modding they would have sauce or something

That’s kinda crazy actually

I guess Lua

And that’s it

[subtle bison]

thry have the source public for everything that isnt the engine

so yeah lua lol

[upbeat jewel]

That fella that made niknaks must have some deets tho

Or maybe he just went insane in lua

[subtle bison]

a lot of maps use particles that make the map crash immediately on load, at least from what i have seen. iirc it has to do with some divide by zero error in shaderapidx9

[upbeat jewel]

[subtle bison]

im hoping at least with niknaks i can force visibility for all leafs lol

it would be the opposite of what im doing currently for optimization but it would make it on par with 32-bit gmod

[upbeat jewel]

If you know what shader does it or if it’s a specific one I can checkout maybe disabling it using a wrapper for the API? Does that sound logical?

[subtle bison]

i can probably find out with x64dbg

i was thinking about doing that yesterday

[upbeat jewel]

Word

Yeah if you know which one can probably be done. But if it’s like involved in all of them would probably take some tinkering on the inputs and outputs sent to the shader from that dll

Maybe some strange precision float thing can be rounded off

Idk

Another method is use the special dxvk shader dumping method. Find the shader with the bad hash, and in the runtime when it’s seen, null it out

I think there’s a conf option to dump all shaders by hash, but idk if it’s xxh64 hash or sha256

[stable scarab]

well in other news i manage to fix the culling issue by re-installing the whole game but now im wonder how can i fix the eye issue with npc's

and i noticed that im bottlenecked, my gpu in some areas only uses 70%-85% but im guessing that is pretty normal since this maps are actually bigger than gmod normal maps...

[willow fog]

correct

[stable scarab]

is there a fix/workaround for the eye issue?

[willow fog]

Eye issue, I really haven't looked into much tbh

[upbeat jewel]

CR said he was looking into it: #1116089843479498782 message
there is no fix currently

[drifting hinge]

i love gmod rtx remix all my homies love gmod rtx remix

[subtle bison]

👀

it sort of works? culling gets completely disabled but then remix fails to hook lol

but the fps difference is there

[subtle bison]

absolutely diabolical idea

capture the world faces/brushes, disable world rendering, re-render world geometry as a mesh

it works with rasterized at least lmfao

i hope this works with remix, cuz then x64 is back on the table

YES LFG

CULLING HAS BEEN DEFEATED ON 64-BIT

[meager oar]

yayyyy

[subtle bison]

now i need to focus on fixing map and particle crashes

this is probably gonna be out of the scope of lua tho lol

reshade also works correctly on x64 which is pretty nice

can actually recognize my hotkeys

[half viper]

thats 40% decrease in FPS

[subtle bison]

not really surprised, culling is out of the picture and im sure there is some extra weight rendering everything as a mesh

maybe i can optimize it later down the line but my goal is to get x64 in a more stable place for now

oddly the fps doesnt dip too hard without remix which is pretty odd

im not even that gpu bound

also uhh

another big win

CW: lots of strobing

completely stable geom hashes

[quiet scroll]

Are the 64bit hashes different from 32?

[subtle bison]

shouldnt be?

im using the same launch params

[quiet scroll]

HUGE

[subtle bison]

this also works for 32-bit since its just rendering the world differently

[quiet scroll]

Moddings about to be so much easier

[subtle bison]

yea

definitely a remix bottleneck

fps barely changes rasterized, absolutely tanks with RT on lmfao

i wasnt really able to get anywhere with modifying the particle system with lua so ill give reverse engineering the materialsystem another go, god help my wretched soul

[meager oar]

Will the perf be better on 64 branch if it gets stable like 32?

[subtle bison]

uhh no idea

ideally perf would be best if we disabled culling via the engine but i could not figure that out

[half viper]

before remix went open source

disabling culling was very cheap

(afair)

on version 1.0 it got a giant performence hit

idfk what happened

[subtle bison]

probably because it has to handle additional methods used by other games?

i remember prelude rtx with its own remix build running far better than gmod on the same map lol

[half viper]

doubt

[subtle bison]

which part

[half viper]

first

[subtle bison]

yea i really have no idea then

[stable scarab]

this is normal? i mean the fire particle is missing

[subtle bison]

^

also why does every overlay think remix is dx12 lol

[stable scarab]

yeah its a bug, but personally i really dont care lol

[subtle bison]

lol

[stable scarab]

well i follow the instructions but that didn't work for me

[subtle bison]

do you have niknaks enabled? also disable any other addons that mess with particles

[stable scarab]

what is that?

[subtle bison]

niknaks is required for rtx remix fixes to work

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2861839844&searchtext=niknaks

[stable scarab]

maybe that's my issue

yeah il have it

[upbeat jewel]

step 5 in the GmodRTX readme, so yeah should be included

[upbeat jewel]

Nice job!

[stable scarab]

also its kinda weird that i have the addons folder empty

[subtle bison]

hu

[upbeat jewel]

I think gmod uses sourcemods but im also

[stable scarab]

so maybe i have to put the rtx_remix_fixes inside sourcemods?

[subtle bison]

well you need to re-follow my instructions for the fire fix lol

[subtle bison]

no

structure should look like this

[stable scarab]

yeah

let me try one more time

nope still no fire 😦 i guess that i missing something

[upbeat jewel]

what map is it? maybe @quiet scroll can test with the GmodRTX stuff and see what is missing

[stable scarab]

gm_construct_rtx

[upbeat jewel]

oh. weird. yeah I dunno maybe we miss an addon or one conflicts

[stable scarab]

il try even with a hl2 map but the particle still missing

[stable scarab]

should i re-suscribed to all the rtx addons?

[upbeat jewel]

I mean, probably, thats why they are mentioned in the readme. I dont know what happens if you uninstall them or install different things on-top

not even sure fire was properly tested 🤷‍♂️

skurty will know better

[subtle bison]

rtx remix fixes fixes fire but only if it's at the top of the addon load order

[upbeat jewel]

word, yeah I just mean with GmodRTX specifically

[subtle bison]

oh the repo

[upbeat jewel]

ye

oh, wait

@subtle bison didn't you mention fire was working only in a recent build?

we package 0.6 so maybe it doesn't have that fix

[subtle bison]

you're probabbly thinking about particle emission

that wouldnt have to do with the particle working itself

[upbeat jewel]

ah okay

does it improve if you disable alpha in the material overrides or use triangle culling?

re the bottleneck

[subtle bison]

ill see

where is triangle culling?

[upbeat jewel]

I think its in terrain

or near that

fuzzy memory

[subtle bison]

yeah its already on

[upbeat jewel]

ah okay. yeah maybe alpha. it would be useful to see how many drawcalls there are

you could probably change that in the debug options until nothing draws, which will tell you the draw call count

[subtle bison]

performance drop is still brutal even with 32-bit with no culling

[upbeat jewel]

if its super super high thats probably why, just so many meshes and textures. but if you are rendering it all as one mesh it should be quick, but I dont think thats possible if its showing a unique hashes for the mesh faces in the debug view?

[subtle bison]

1st pic is with my mesh rendering, 2nd is normal 32-bit gmod with culling disabled

[subtle bison]

iirc there is a command that measures drawcalls in source, ill find it in a sec

mat_threadedendframe (if that's correct) seems to skyrocket with custom mesh rendering

also the fps drop is much worse on other maps

[lapis delta]

@quiet scroll how to fix that?

nvm, fixed that💀

[subtle bison]

flatgrass 💀

[upbeat jewel]

hmm, maybe its spending a bunch of time on the material system since its rendering all of them now

and maybe its not well optimized if its expecting to have culling

[subtle bison]

nah culling is still off in the engine in both pics

the only difference is that world rendering is off and is rendered as a custom mesh

[upbeat jewel]

oh interesting, so remix is taking extra time maybe

[subtle bison]

the fps drop only happens with remix which is really odd

[upbeat jewel]

yeah, im guessing whatever that thread is doing is causing a much longer path once the calls reach remix

texturing or something

[subtle bison]

i could try different renderhooks and see if i can make it faster

[upbeat jewel]

I wonder if it would go fast if you turned on white materials

the default geometry workers in the rtx conf is set up based on a 2000 call average for 4 threads. could maybe bumb that up too

[subtle bison]

the sun is leaking....

[stable scarab]

So in order to fix your fire particles you follow CR instructions and put rtx_remix_fixes inside addons?

[meager oar]

I did that but it still didn't fix it, only recently for some odd reason it started working out of nowhere, I think it was after the latest Gmod update, I had to reinstall remix again cuz it messed up the files

[subtle bison]

so i guess my method broke in a new update?

[stable scarab]

So now its fixed? Kinda weird

[meager oar]

Ohhhhhh wait wait I got confused, I thought you meant the emission of the fire, CR method did made the fire visible again haha I got confused

[stable scarab]

Yeah well that didnt work for me, the fire emission still not visible sadly

[meager oar]

I have the rtx remix fixes folder in my add-ons folder in Gmod

[stable scarab]

So dont know what is causing the issue

[subtle bison]

added PVS culling for the mesh geometry, it kinda helps?

its hard to optimize this ngl

when its not even a game engine issue

lmao

remix is just coping too hard

[meager oar]

hmm if u put the remix fixes folder in the addons folder it and then sub to niknek it should work, maybe it's related to rtx conf aswell?

[subtle bison]

yea try using my rtx.conf i sent here a few days ago @stable scarab

[stable scarab]

Ok il try and see if it work, thanks u all

[quiet scroll]

Yeah fire was something that wasn’t working for me either, I’ll see if xenthio might know a fix, he’s updating his water

@keen rivet is fire part of the rtx remix fixes or is that separate?

[keen rivet]

it is on my end lol

it only works if you download it from git and place it in your addons folder i think

[quiet scroll]

Ohhhhh git

[subtle bison]

instead of doing PVS, im combining meshes using cubic chunks, and wow the perf gap is much closer now

ill fix the skybox in a bit

[quiet scroll]

CR COOKING

[subtle bison]

this could also probably fix missing geometry with maps that use too many faces 😉

[quiet scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/very-good-gif-11417951659847615064

[stable scarab]

wich git? can you post the link here?

[keen rivet]

https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXFixes

[subtle bison]

hey i've been adding stuff to your addon for a little bit, do you accept PRs?

[keen rivet]

yeah of course

sorry about the code mess lol

[subtle bison]

its fine lol, mine isnt much better

niknaks is a goldmine though

its really helped me do a lot of stuff without having to reverse engineer the engine

[quiet scroll]

Think sprites is causing crashes when firing weapons?

On 64

[subtle bison]

yea

been messing with it on IDA

l already made a 64-bit patch a month ago but i guess its not working lol

[lament quartz]

real homies know this map

[subtle bison]

32-bit and 64-bit runny pretty good now

fps drops when a lot is on screen still but at least its not almost 50% less perf now lol

64-bit definitely takes the lead in fps though

these optimizations seem to break on higher density maps like flatgrass, i hit a engine vert limit on 32-bit

probably wouldnt with 64-bit but it crashes when loading the map sooo uh yea 🙂

[quiet scroll]

I'll 10000% take the fps hit for stable hashes haha

[subtle bison]

its only about a 10% hit so far now

i cant really push this yet as any other map breaks the addon lol

stupid engine vert limits 😭

[stable scarab]

that didn't work for me either sadly, i will try some other things but im guessing that i would stick with this issue for some time

[subtle bison]

maybe unsub from all addons except for niknaks?

cant really help with troubleshooting further until you have a squeaky-clean gmod install

[stable scarab]

yeah il try uninstalling all addons and re-installing only rtx ones , this may help idk

[quiet scroll]

pro tip, if you go into \GarrysModRTX\garrysmod\cfg and edit autoexec.cfg, you can enter console commands that'll stay active in every map you load into, sv_cheats 1, god, implulse 101, host_timescale, etc etc

r_novis 1

[subtle bison]

just dont put the launch params in there

i tried to do that and it makes the game crash on start without fail

[stable scarab]

also i found my gmod addons folder but putting "rtx_remix_fixes" here does nothing in the game... so its useless extract the folder here

[subtle bison]

behold exhibit a

gm_bigcity on x64

🥹

[stable scarab]

so now runs better and the bottleneck have been reduced i suppose

i mean, using the x64

[subtle bison]

nah the optimizations breaks there, 7fps and half of the verts are missing lmao

the left image is the game with culling

considering source isnt a mesh rendering-first engine, i probably dont have much leeway here

[winter radish]

I can't wait for Gmod RTX to get HL2 RTX assets

[subtle bison]

still optimizing the shit out of it

this is bigcity now

im having some leaking issues due to the engine vert limit but hopefully i can find a good middleground 🔥

meanwhile this is what happens to smaller maps lmfao

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
no more leaks

lua dark magic at its best

mmm look at those stable hashes

[meager oar]

yus

[loud mural]

This is already fixed by forcing a dynamic vertex buffer with mat_forcedynamic 1

[subtle bison]

yeah but that absolutely kills fps

[loud mural]

True

[subtle bison]

this shouldnt since it handles world rendering entirely differently

[loud mural]

Yup

[subtle bison]

skybox rendering is gonna be a pain, i hope renderhooks will be good enough

wait no it shouldnt, i just need to ignore redrawing the skybox textures

glad i thought of that before i went ham on doing renderhooks

ok well i do, the skybox stops tracking with the player camera when world drawing is off

[stable scarab]

this part is iconic in-game i hope can fix the fire particle issue near future

[subtle bison]

did removing all non-rtx addons not work?

[stable scarab]

nope still without fire

and even try to run the latest github action build "dxvk" that didn't work either

and i was having some flickering issues in the water with the latest build so i rolled back to this one

[stable scarab]

im having this exact same red errors in console

[subtle bison]

it means it cant render the particles on the FVF particle system

the only way to fix this is replace the particles with a simpler one, which is what the remix fixes does for a few particles

i can see if particles are broken on the latest gmod build in a bit

[stable scarab]

minus fire, right? i mean, fire its included inside "rtx_remix_fixes" but for some odd reason the particle its not working

[subtle bison]

no fire is included

[stable scarab]

yeah but its not working right now as it should 😦

[subtle bison]

yes but there is so much I can do without actually re-tracing your steps lol

when i get the time i will try a fresh modern gmod build and use the automated installer

[stable scarab]

when u do, pinn me if you can

@meager oar just to know... Wich version of "dxvk" you are actually using ? mine is "remix-0.6.0+f02a859a"

[subtle bison]

I FINALLY ||FUCKING|| FIXED THE PARTICLE SYSTEM ON 64-BIT

materialsystem has some divide by zero errors in addition to shaderapidx9.dll

i patched them out and mmod particles no longer instacrash

[stable scarab]

back then you remember wich version of remix/dxvk/bridge you had?

[quiet scroll]

HUGEEEE

[lapis delta]

@quiet scroll this shouldn't have happened, right?

[quiet scroll]

are you subscribed to niknaks?

[quiet scroll]

I think addons go here

[lapis delta]

they also works like this, not gma file

[quiet scroll]

Ahh, it might be that xenthio's updated the rtx remix fixes for the new hashes, we're kinda in a transition stage from the old hashes to the new hashes

[lapis delta]

wait, where

[quiet scroll]

on the workshop, he said he's already begun to work to adjust for the new hashes

[upbeat jewel]

Wouldn’t he already have the one on the workshop then? It auto updates so I’m not following

Just get it from GitHub or something

[quiet scroll]

Oh true, it would've updated. https://github.com/Xenthio/RTXFixes

I'll check mine here in a minute and see if I'm culling as well

[upbeat jewel]

That’s 7 months old so idk. Maybe xenthio hasn’t put the updated one up yet?

[lapis delta]

i didn't update anything, not even gmod. why can it start working like this out of nowhere?

[upbeat jewel]

#1116089843479498782 message

[quiet scroll]

#1116089843479498782 message gmod nuked the hl2.exe so hashes might've swapped on you. Either set this to True or False in your rtx.conf and see if it fixes

[upbeat jewel]

I wouldn’t use hl2.exe anyways. It’s a huge hack. And it makes absolutely no sense to use a game binary from another game to play a game you already own

It’s ridiculously

Stupid

Not really following why valve allowed that or supported it

[quiet scroll]

Yeah, and just now changed it in 2024. Hell black mesa got it's own .exe and that came out a few years ago, not 17

[upbeat jewel]

So weird. I’d bet it had something to do with the whole missing textures debacle where people would copy textures from other source games to make gmod maps work

Then everybody just started copying hl2

And it snowballed from there

Valve did officially support it tho because their own factory reset script for gmod calls out hl2.exe

Ngl pretty sure it’s illegal to not advertise you need hl2.exe to make gmod work properly

Just so weird

[drifting hinge]

hi skurtyy the obsoletehashontexture thing doesnt do anything for me atleast

[quiet scroll]

Did it work earlier?

[drifting hinge]

i didnt see any difference except a maybe tiny performance boost i might have imagined

[quiet scroll]

Hmm, so with the water rtx-mod in the mods folder, and with rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True in the rtx.conf the water on construct is still not showing correctly?

[drifting hinge]

yeah no mods or the conf was working

[quiet scroll]

Hmm. Well, I guess I'll kinda just have to put the gmodrtx installer on hold or in a "in progress" stage while all the new hashes are updated for all the mods. Seems like some stuff is working and others not - but it's best to wait until the gmod.exe hashes are used in the updated mods, the old hl2.exe ones are no bueno

[drifting hinge]

its over

[quiet scroll]

very joever

[hushed trail]

That’ll make things a little harder, but should be ok.

I wish there was a way to make a list from the .vpk to find the names vs hashes of packed files. Then recursively replace each old hash with the new one.

There’s no way of knowing the hash from the vpk though right? All in engine for loading that, I wonder if there is a way.

[quiet scroll]

Transition starting now! I've been kinda cooking. I took a complete game capture of hl2, ep1, ep2, counterstrike, gmod, all my old maps, old weapons - and then downloaded all of the game captures on moddb of hl2, ep1, ep2, counterstrike, then made a python script that will compare if the .dds file is a match based on image being 1/1 with the old .dds capture files and the new .dds capture file, and if it's a match it will use the new hash filename and replace any instance that the runtime see's the old hash, it will now have the new hash to replace it, while still using the old hash that the mod was built on for replacing purposes

[quiet scroll]

I went in and tested 7/11 and it looks like it's working as expected, I'm going to kill this batch just to get more captures, I luckily saved all my old captures so I'll beef up the comparison folders and when I think I've got 10000's of them I'll run the comparison thingy again

But for now, I eep

[drifting hinge]

bless you fr for saving gmod rtx in real life

[subtle bison]

update: i am far from done 😭

there is still one stupid divide by zero left and i cannot for the life of me get it to not break the game when patching it out

[stable scarab]

i mean, your actually build version u are using, not your dxvk config, you can see wich version u are using by writing in dxvk.conf " dxvk.hud=1 "

[lapis delta]

its already in conf file

[stable scarab]

@quiet scroll i downloaded your pbr pack thinking there would be some light in this scene lol, but still so dark

this is how should look like but once i cross this spot the lights went totally off

[stable scarab]

this is so weird... fire particles actually work in the heli

but then... its not working in this prop

[quiet scroll]

Nah it’s just a PBR pack, no adjustments to the campaign or added lights were added

[lapis delta]

so what to do?

[quiet scroll]

wait until all the mods are updated unfortunately

[lapis delta]

you mean patches?

[quiet scroll]

The patches should still work, idk why those are broken for you. Maybe try a clean install?

[stable scarab]

well i managed to fix the fire particles by changing this 2 files from Portal RTX/bin to GarrysMod/bin (i replaced them) but the lightning its not working for some odd reason, i mean there is no light(path tracing) that emanates from the actual fire

the issue was the stdshader.dll

oh and almost forgot now the npc have eyes again...

but its weird

[quiet scroll]

Ahhhhh that explains it, I didn't have those portal 2 files in my install

very pog

[stable scarab]

srry i was wrong... in the GUImenu "particle lights" was disabled

now its working like it should

[quiet scroll]

hmm, but particles was enabled on my side and still no bueno. I'll have to check here in a bit

[stable scarab]

just copy those 2 stdshader.dll from portal rtx/bin and paste/replace them inside gmod/bin

at least now they can see again

finally it works!!! yay

[lapis delta]

which dlls?

with dx6 and 7?

[stable scarab]

this two

[stable scarab]

yeah

this is normal ?

[quiet scroll]

press alt + x, go to developer settings, and under categorize textures, move your mouse over to the texture ingame, and set it to particle texture.

You can also pause the game when you see the smoke, and are still able to tag it with the menu 🙂

makes it easier lol

[stable scarab]

many thanks

[quiet scroll]

graffiti/posters/dirt/etc you can usually tag as decal texture and it'll fix it's appearance

[stable scarab]

so my question now is, should i play HL2 with gmod or should i install rtx inside hl2 and play along the 20th aniversary update...

[quiet scroll]

I guess it's personal preference, I usually use gmod, with this addon it pretty much fixes the campaign for gmod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3022183926

[stable scarab]

oh and also i downloaded your pbr pack, those 25gb worth it

so crazy how hl2 changed with path tracing and pbr textures

[quiet scroll]

Thanks! Depending on how much longer hl2 rtx takes, I might release an update for it

Oh in the GUI menu, where did you enable particle lights?

[lapis delta]

works fine, but particles on hl2 weapons are X

[upbeat jewel]

Crazy concept. You could make an issue on the GmodRTX repo with an issue about particles, and we can look at fixing it more generally. Instead of, yknow. Talking about this every single day (with zero useful information)

[stable scarab]

just alt-x and go to rendering "particle lights", i was having this at "None" i changed to "High" and then wala

[lament quartz]

How do you pause the game with remix

[quiet scroll]

Oh not with remix, just pausing the regular game 😅 Remix will still let you select what’s frozen in time when u pause the game

[lament quartz]

Ooooo ok, here i thought there was something magic remix pause lmao

[stable scarab]

look @subtle bison

[subtle bison]

yea i've already seen this before

[quiet scroll]

My fixed mods are gunna be getting updated over the week Fixed the water, adding the glass mod, fixed the mirror mod, and removing the rtx.useObsoleteHashOnTextureUpload = True from the rtx.conf to makeway for gmod.exe hashes so new gmodrtx installer incoming

[quiet scroll]

https://github.com/skurtyyskirts/GmodRTX/releases/tag/v0.4alpha

Recommended to do a clean install of gmodrtx to ensure hl2.exe isn't in your game directory anymore

glorious water fixed for gmod.exe hashes

[drifting hinge]

new magical shadow that follows the camera view happened after new install