Garry's Mod

[idle pilot]

if im walking around and playing ill use it but when im getting cool shots ill turn it off

[subtle bison]

so purely from the 2D viewport?

i still wouldnt compare it to native FG implementations

[modern quest]

yeah. the latest release does a fairly good job, enough that i've had little issue using it on a lot of games... and i'm pretty harsh on FG implementations

and i agree, it's not the same

[idle pilot]

when the error gets fixed for remix ill show a difference with framgen on and off

[subtle bison]

i also hardly see how it can help in a completely GPU bottlenecked scenario, doesnt LS depend on spare GPU headroom?

[modern quest]

i hope we'll have a fully functional FSR 3 implementation in Remix one day, either through a replacement mod or a proper implementation

[modern quest]

it does, but so does DLSS FG and FSR 3 FG

if you're truly 100% maxing out your GPU, you'll often see no gain from FG being enabled in native implementations

[subtle bison]

yeah that's why i havent really tried it on remix

i dont see the point lol

[modern quest]

in Remix it actually works completely fine. i haven't run into that issue

not sure why?

i don't get 100% gains, but often 70-80%

[modern quest]

ah, unless you meant Lossless Scaling's FG. i agree it's not really worth it with Remix

[subtle bison]

yes

[meager oar]

hmm but I use it and it works fine for me, the construct video I uploaded here was like running at 40 fps but with lossless FG on top

[modern quest]

i find the latency of LSFG to be way too much when the base FPS is below 50 FPS

can't imagine playing with 20 FPS with LSFG on top

[meager oar]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3zyTF5CPsfg&t=13s 😂 here it is 18 fps, looks like a luma AI video

yea it's a mess at 20

[modern quest]

you should definitely turn off motion blur in Remix's settings

[meager oar]

for me I always try to target for 30 if I ever want to use lossless

[quiet scroll]

I wonder what's causing the bridge crashes for everyone now

I have an on-going ticket for it

https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/rtx-remix/issues/594

[half viper]

whats a goood texture mod cus its kinda ugly the game for me and also i can see two mes

[meager oar]

I kinda like motion blur, Just a Tini bit though

[subtle bison]

yep i haven't experienced any bridge issues myself

[meager oar]

💀 Have no clue what triggers it, The game works and the next day u open your PC to play again bam suddenly the bridge error

[quiet scroll]

Mine keeps "soft crashing" where the game stops responding and the audio repeats from the last thing I did lol

Feel free to upload your logs/crashes to the github page - it may help fix stuff

[idle pilot]

do u know what causes it?

[quiet scroll]

I thought it was my mods causing the errors because of the python script - but I just made a mod last night that never used the python script, so it HAS to be just gmod alone now

Anybody else feel free to upload your logs/crashes/dmps to the github - this might be a bigger issue than I thought 💀

[subtle bison]

has anyone tried downgrading their dxvk/bridge?

or upgrade their drivers recently?

[idle pilot]

yeah

i have

ive tried everything

[lapis delta]

#github-updates message FUCK YEEEEAAAH!

CAN ANYBODY CHECK THIS UPDATE?

PLEASE

[steel lark]

yeah sure

what does it do?

[quiet scroll]

Woah, it looks like it's trasmitting light?

[lapis delta]

can you check tfa base or arc9?

with their 3d scopes

[quiet scroll]

oo maybe not

I don't think I have any of those mods

[lapis delta]

wait, it doesn't work?

[quiet scroll]

I can't really tell

[willow fog]

lemme check arc9

[lament quartz]

is it casting light, check hl1 c1a01 (after the train ride)\

[lapis delta]

remix downloader downloads even failed checks?

[willow fog]

no it just downloaded

[modern quest]

it can't because the builds didn't complete

[willow fog]

nope

Maybe mark

@lucid parcel can you shed some light on what exactly this update does?

[lucid parcel]

In HL2 there are a bunch of security monitors and screens that broadcast Breen's speeches. Those are done by drawing a scene to a render target texture, then drawing the screen using that texture as the color texture.

My MR lets you flag those textures for ray forwarding, which causes the scene being drawn to the render target be added to the ray traced scene, then treats the screen sorta like a portal (in that rays which hit it get spat out from the camera in the other scene)

End result is that the scene in the security monitor gets ray traced instead of being rasterized

[willow fog]

Interesting. Is this a new texture category?

[lapis delta]

yea, check categories

i think

is it work?

[willow fog]

weait

[lapis delta]

oke

[subtle bison]

should also fix gmod mirrors

[willow fog]

Don't see it

[lament quartz]

:gasp:

[lapis delta]

i think you need to enable this... sorry for my eppy head

[willow fog]

where is it

[lapis delta]

idk, i can't check for now

[willow fog]

it brokey

[lapis delta]

it's brover

[lucid parcel]

Split textures up by category and it should be easier to see. The option will only come up when you right click on a render target texture

[willow fog]

Build failed

On github

What does it look like on your end

if you can even show

[lucid parcel]

build worked fine on our internal repo, and that error looks like there was a server crash or something, not a compilation error

I'll ask around about that

[willow fog]

Thx. WOuld love to see it working

[lucid parcel]

set the jobs to rerun, we'll see if it was just some network hiccup

[idle pilot]

is this error getting worked on

sorry to ask if u guys brought it up

just decided to ask

[lucid parcel]

That's just a notification that the runtime crashed - probably dxvk-remix, but possibly the bridge's server.

[idle pilot]

oh alr

[lucid parcel]

The bridge server is just the 64 bit process where dxvk-remix actually runs. So any time dxvk-remix crashes, you'll see that error

[idle pilot]

oh ok thanks

[subtle bison]

looks like it finished rebuilding on github, all artifacts are available

about to try it out

dont know if this is happening for anyone else but once I get ingame, its about a frame every minute lmao

i was using dxvk-remix 0.5.1 previously which ran fine

not sure if it's the game or bridge as the first few seconds its smooth then it just dies

also debug options are missing for the debugoptimized build

ok after a couple of launches its fine, though i cant select the render target texture

clicking does nothing and right click does not have the option

[lucid parcel]

Is that render target drawn to every frame?

[subtle bison]

yes

its just like the RT cameras in hl2

[lucid parcel]

Is it marked as world space UI or anything like that?

[subtle bison]

no

there is another addon that puts the RT texture on the hud

lemme try that one

[lucid parcel]

what does it look like i you unselect that texture?

[subtle bison]

nothing, that texture was already there before i placed the RT monitor

also the hud version did not work

just a black output and it was unselectable

fixed the hud version but it's still unselectable from the toolkit

[quiet scroll]

omg it worked! And it looks like it already categorized the textures for me

[subtle bison]

but breen looks rasterized as usual?

i believe the point of this PR is to path-trace these RT textures

@lucid parcel it might be helpful to add the RT RT texture category to the right click menu

[quiet scroll]

raytraced

#1116089843479498782 message this one was rasterized

[subtle bison]

you sure? look at the difference of shading vs inside the room and on the monitor

you have the roughness at 0 and his face was shiny as hell and its not at all on the RT monitor

also there is no shading on his face other than vertex colors

[quiet scroll]

Ohhh I see, the screen maybe?

[subtle bison]

the screen is emissive so yes it can cast light, but the content itself (breen) should be path traced

see its rasterized for me as well but the screen is casting light which existed before

eyes are blank on RT and there is strong shadows, on the monitor its fullbright and his eyes work

its definitely rasterized

you can also see it here without the monitor model

[quiet scroll]

toying with it a bit

he's path traced, but the screen itself might not be? I can't really tell

[subtle bison]

yes for sure now lol

how did you select the textures? just manually go through the uncategorized list?

i only have that 1 texture so idk how you have all of those

oh

i see

💀

[quiet scroll]

Yeah There were a bunch of black textures that came up so I kinda had to do trial and error

[peak rover]

whats your pc

[quiet scroll]

4090 + i9 14900k

[subtle bison]

definitely working

very buggy with the thirdperson model (breaks pesudoplayer from rtx remix fixes as well)

if you mark them as player model texture again, you cant see yourself in a camera

[modern quest]

any noticeable decrease in performance?

[peak rover]

https://tenor.com/view/nani-jjba-millks-jotaro-kujo-star-platinum-gif-24558285

[subtle bison]

nope, not on my 2080 + 7950X3D at least

it drops maybe 5-3fps for me?

[willow fog]

@lucid parcel @lapis delta

[quiet scroll]

Try some of the other textures in that list

[willow fog]

They do nothing

[subtle bison]

works on props too lul

is anyone else having this playermodel issue though?

it only happens when the rt texture is active

there is literally 2 models co-existing at the same time

[lucid parcel]

source engine sends two copies of the scene down, and we just add both copies to our raytracing scene (deduped, of course - but those player models aren't perfect dupes.) Maybe we would need to do something like the portal player model handling to fix that properly, but HL2 doesn't have any scenes where the monitor would show Freeman

[subtle bison]

gotcha

[quiet scroll]

no notable performance loss

[lucid parcel]

that's... interesting

[lucid parcel]

You should only need to mark 1 render target - and it should show the results of the raster rendering when it's not selected

[willow fog]

Yeah it's freaking out a lot

Would love to see it work otherwise the scopes are a no go

[lucid parcel]

Are scopes typically done with a render target?

[willow fog]

In this mod, yes. There is however a non RT mode but it doesn't look as good.

It zooms your whole view

[lucid parcel]

I only knew of the HL2 uses of it to test out, I may need to spin up gmod to test those out.
Are there any weapons in HL2 that use render targets?

[subtle bison]

if anyone has any flickering issues with the advanced rt cameras addon, max out the frame rate, fixes the flickering

[willow fog]

Not to my knowledge

[lucid parcel]

the test cases we all involved the RT camera being in a completely different scene from the regular camera. May need additional fixes to support having them both render the same scene.

[willow fog]

I see.

I'll try testing another game that uses rt

Tomorrow

[lucid parcel]

This feature is still very experimental - there are definitely still image quality issues that I want to address. But it'll be great to have more useful test cases

[subtle bison]

guess more of a nitpick and im sure it was intentional, but reflections dont seem to show

nvm, maybe it just doesnt resolve that well at a lower res?

[lucid parcel]

to save on perf the RT rays act like translucent PSR rays - which means they can pass through glass, but don't support perfect reflection

[lucid parcel]

that may change in the future - it's just an artifact of the current implemetation which I'm already considering changing

[quiet scroll]

Anybody seen Longlegs

@subtle bison were you able to get the placable cameras raytraced?

oh wait uhh....some guns trigger it to work/not work?

[lucid parcel]

You need both a camera and a surface the camera is drawn to

[subtle bison]

yes

you need a RT camera addon

idk how your normal gmod camera is rasterized

that shouldnt ever be the case

[near tartan]

Love Frame gen big on quality though, so I avoid using it, I run a 4070 SUPER at DLSS performance with no frame gen, which tends to be higher quality because it’s DLSS 3.5, I get a solid 80 fps at 4k

[quiet scroll]

My normal gmods path traced, but I guess some guns in my addons misplaces the surface camera maybe?

[subtle bison]

pbr hoverball

[subtle bison]

357 is cooking in the oven 🔥

the normals on the grip tho 😩 👌

aaand since the grip is a separate model, UV issues ensue

🤪 im gonna lose it

[quiet scroll]

[subtle bison]

oh hello there

wasnt getting these until the newest dxvk-remix build

only happens on launch tho

UV issues wont stop me

[lapis delta]

bro thinks he is sewerslvt

[lapis delta]

also, maybe these glitches happen because of this

[lapis delta]

i asked arctic at server and he said that you can't set the refresh rate there for 3d scopes

it's over...

@willow fog oh no...
you ruined their boy...

[modern quest]

as opposed to just leaving the textures as they were 😛

[lapis delta]

i think we need to close every remix project

[lapis delta]

guys, can somebody test skybox?

please

@subtle bison can you check please?

[meager oar]

tbh i dont understand this weird hate, like why is it bothering them so much about a modder moding one of these old games, they worship these games or what?

[lapis delta]

they think that remix adds only "shaini teksturs"

like

they think that remix is

shader...

[lapis delta]

also, popo

can u check please skyboz?

[meager oar]

with the latest remix build? gotta install that probably will take 8 mins

[lapis delta]

yea

oh, 8 minutes?

[meager oar]

idk sometimes its fast and sometimes its slow, ma dang internet speed goes up and down alot

[lapis delta]

same, sometimes i cant play gta online

[lapis delta]

so are you downloading now?

[meager oar]

yus

[lapis delta]

ok, thank you!

waiting...

[lapis delta]

any results?

[quiet scroll]

jesus causitics be patient 💀

[lapis delta]

naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[quiet scroll]

why can't you do these little tests?

[meager oar]

ohhhhh 💀💀💀😱

wow

[lapis delta]

im in school right now

[meager oar]

here

[lapis delta]

NO FUCKING WAY

NO

FUCKING

WAAAY

SKYBOX IS FINALLY WORKING?

[meager oar]

it jiggles around when u move the mouse though

turn this option on reproject sky

and set the both values below it to 20000

[lapis delta]

to be honest, im already pleased with the progress

there was no skybox before

[gaunt ingot]

OH MY GAAAH

[lapis delta]

why these buildings began to shine brightly 😭😭😭

[gaunt ingot]

hold up i can remember that i did something that fixes skybox but makes really deep fog

[quiet scroll]

Posting a crash example for my github page lol

[gaunt ingot]

Like i just typed r_3dsky 1

[lapis delta]

it was rasterized

but now it fully path traced

[meager oar]

there does not seem to be any jiggle in some maps like inferno and flash

[lapis delta]

life is amazing...

[meager oar]

had to put the vol fog dist to 555,000 or sumthing for the fog to reach behind da citadel 💀

[gaunt ingot]

FINALLY I CAN CHANGE MY WALLPAPER TO THE BEAUTIFUL SKYBOX!!

Yesesh

[meager oar]

u mean the flickering on the white walls? theres like another wall behind them in the 3d skybox for sum odd reason so when it jiggles that wall goes through the white one

hmm game seems to crash now if i alt tab out two times, no bridge or dxvk error though

[quiet scroll]

does yours crash like this? #1116089843479498782 message

[willow fog]

Tell him to cope

[meager oar]

hmm i dnt think i have ever crashed like that maybe in early days of remix but i dnt remember

[willow fog]

Also what server are you in? These people are idiots

[meager oar]

but not anything like that in recent times

[quiet scroll]

Huh weird, hopefully the nvidia guys can help solve all this, I've given them every log imaginable lol

[meager oar]

i think the alt tab crash im getting might be due to the 3d skybox

[lapis delta]

Diamond Doves

[meager oar]

yea i just tested it out its the 3d skybox causing the crash when alt tabbing the 2nd time

[lapis delta]

discord link is in arc9 page

[willow fog]

Never heard of it

[lapis delta]

there are really most idiots there

[half viper]

There was

Reproject sky

[lapis delta]

fully path traced?

[half viper]

Yes

[lapis delta]

huh...

wait, why didn't i know

does it fix 3d scopes?

can anybody check?

[half viper]

Burrito tried

[lapis delta]

so?

[half viper]

Didn't work

[lapis delta]

i mean, he enabled "render target", not "reproject sky"

[half viper]

It works with sky only

[lapis delta]

😭

[half viper]

how do i fix seing my self

[royal vortex]

is their a download link? i's love to get this!

how did you make emissive textures and PBR?

[subtle bison]

I'll release it as a pack on moddb when its finished

[royal vortex]

nice

but how do i do this myself for other weapon models and props

[subtle bison]

photoshop, substance painter, existing alpha/normal maps extracted from the original textures if they exist

[royal vortex]

oh nice thanks

whats a alterative to PS and SP if i don't wanna pay to use them lmao

[subtle bison]

I would google some PBR tutorials if you want to do your own. My method is mostly comprised of knowledge I've learned over the years

[subtle bison]

nothing for SP unfortunately, but for Photoshop you could gimp, krita, blender, etc

[royal vortex]

nice. thank you

i think substance painter is what you use for the emmisives and maybe the reflecty bits

[subtle bison]

np, there is also AI methods but in my opinion they dont really get the materials right

[subtle bison]

nope, substance just makes it easy to paint and manipulate PBR materials onto a 3D model so i dont have to do it in Photoshop

[royal vortex]

i also added a custom texture to one of my models and the texture just appears as a black flat texture.

[subtle bison]

i made the emissives in Photoshop

its usually a color traced on top of the element you want to be emissive, just make sure the background is completely black as that is your transparency

im not near my pc but it would look something like this

[royal vortex]

i basically made a custom texture and it turns black

[subtle bison]

that means the runtime cant find your texture

[royal vortex]

how do i fix this

[subtle bison]

make sure it's properly ingested in the toolkit

[royal vortex]

ah thank you

[subtle bison]

and its inside your mod location

[royal vortex]

i literally forgot to do that

so i have to ingest

here it is in remix

i dont know is this is ingested or not but i made an output and it put it in here.

[subtle bison]

im not able to give you a step-by-step st the moment, but this tutorial by nvidia should get you there
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MQejylcuAeU

[royal vortex]

thank you!

[half viper]

help me i see two player models

[subtle bison]

if you're using rtx remix fixes, it creates a duplicate of your player model for first person shadows, simply go in first person and mark the visible parts of your playermodel as a player texture in the runtime menu

[glossy mauve]

what da apc doin

[quiet scroll]

love this channel

[peak rover]

one day ill buy the rtx 6090 and come back to gmod rtx

[viscid ocean]

this is so good wtf

[willow fog]

@meager oar whats happening?

[half viper]

Stop encoding in av1 it doesn't load on my phone;(

[willow fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196836285545971712/1285890876262060032/hl2_3cVkkk9nqu.mp4?ex=66ebeab3&is=66ea9933&hm=d51305b4580a1fae2a595e14005dd92ce9f91aba91bb1ca860fdc64608fee1c1&

[meager oar]

u fixed it?

[willow fog]

no magazine is still black

[meager oar]

there was a guy here who said u need to like do some configuration in the mwbase vmt files to fix the void textures

tis

heres da deagle with fixed mag

[lapis delta]

this looks so zesty👅

[willow fog]

two more guns done in #asset-creation

[meager oar]

swinging ship

[lament quartz]

"delete these parameters on mwb vmts if you want color"

nad yes i realize its been said before

[willow fog]

nad I don wanna do allat

[lament quartz]

hhhhhhh ill get it for you

later

[willow fog]

u a big one fo dat

[lament quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-rage-anger-meme-gif-11741976053183870900

[glossy mauve]

house

[subtle bison]

this fixed the albedo for the mmod crowbar, thanks

🥵

[meager oar]

A house

[glossy mauve]

A minecraft movie

[subtle bison]

procedural glass is still one of the best addons to compliment remix

[willow fog]

Make cinematic mod alyx

[willow fog]

Found the assets for the two missing pistols. Will set them up tomorrow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134564734415409194/1285952510174957619/hl2_PPeBJgrEB3.mp4?ex=66ec241a&is=66ead29a&hm=2b7f7a30907be98b89c0ead5f4270c6a4382307a565e4b6717fc5989b3cb8754&

https://tenor.com/view/grueling-grueeling-clamplicated-shrimple-gif-26210349

[subtle bison]

me when i have to manually pbr anything

[lament quartz]

[subtle bison]

it looks fine when its not replaced but it breaks when I add replacement materials

[lament quartz]

How does it break

[subtle bison]

albedo is blank, so the whole weapon is grey

removing the 2 lines in the vmt fixed it

[lament quartz]

Ye so it's fine now, or is there still a problem

[subtle bison]

ye its fine now after removing those lines

[lament quartz]

Hella cool

[quiet scroll]

PBRFusion at 30 guidance 🥵

[subtle bison]

man i wish a rtx 4090 magically appeared on my desk

[meager oar]

dang have u uploaded this as a mod somewhere?

[subtle bison]

maybe? its just a fully transparent material, no textures or anything

shouldnt be hard to recreate

[meager oar]

i dnt hav da toolkit installed 😭

[subtle bison]

hu, how are you doing replacements then?

[meager oar]

octatex and paint3d hehe

[subtle bison]

💀

[tulip meadow]

That is a lot of guidance

[subtle bison]

also i should probably rephrase my question, the procedural glass or the actual glass material?

[meager oar]

da material

[subtle bison]

ill see if i can find it, i have so many mod usda's i have no idea where it lives

might be a bit

[peak rover]

active windows makes this 1000x better

[peak rover]

I NEED

[glossy mauve]

https://youtu.be/rl4IBsqS2gY

same vibe ngl

[mild mist]

who'll be the first to port the hl2rtxremix stuff to gmod

[hushed trail]

Hopefully hashes will be semi similar so it won’t be too much of a hassle

There’s issues still

[subtle bison]

anyone might know a reason why these replacements flicker?

it also does it in the toolkit and i dont have a clue why

its just these two textures

my other ones dont

[quiet scroll]

Maybe the "Keep Lights" thingy is causing it? Orrrrr possibly the rtx.io option being enabled in the confs

Or maybe there's a decal texture hidden on the mirror

[subtle bison]

you mean this?

ill see if rtx.io is enabled

[quiet scroll]

yeah

[subtle bison]

toggling it doesnt change anything

its just one texture so i dont think it's something conflicting

i didnt replace the albedo, i just made a reflection map based off a mask

i wonder if the albedo actually needs to be replaced, or at least pointed to a replacement

[quiet scroll]

Ahhhh I see. Hmmm that's interesting, I don't think I've ever made a change without the albedo being switched...now I'm very curious

[subtle bison]

its off

ill try exporting the original albedo as a png and reingest it and see if that fixes it

[quiet scroll]

Good idea

[subtle bison]

here it is in the toolkit

less noticable but definitely same behavior

[quiet scroll]

It's.....alive

[subtle bison]

nope

still flickers with reingested albedo

wtf

ill post in toolkit help

#1286128955518091344 message

can be found here

[meager oar]

trench warfare

[subtle bison]

yea without context, i would have no idea if this is gmod lol

[meager oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moLKoCSOsiM

[winter radish]

AV1 is best

[modern quest]

AV2 ftw

[winter radish]

This is just Source 2 now

No need for S&Box anymore

Gmod forever

[subtle bison]

honestly if the 64-bit patches ever get completed, and gmod gets a lot more lua functions, it would definitely be better than S&box by a mile

so much modding potential

[lapis delta]

absolutely agree with you. especially if we are talking about infmap

or web player

or uhm

[subtle bison]

literally anything

lmao

[lapis delta]

yea, true

[subtle bison]

no more bridge issues either

[lapis delta]

maybe this will fix also "out of memory" error

[subtle bison]

hu

[lapis delta]

when i download 10 or more addons

or when map doesn't load at all, stopping at "loading resources"

[subtle bison]

oh yea

is that fixed on 64-bit?

idk if bridge or dxvk is causing that

[lapis delta]

sort of

64 bit allows you to use more memory than usual

if i understand correctly

[subtle bison]

yea but the freezing issue on loading a map is exclusive to remix

32-bit gmod without remix doesnt have this issue

which makes me think its the bridge

[lapis delta]

yes, it's mainly because of the bridge, because if you go to a regular gmod with the same amount of addons, everything starts and works great

at least i'm waiting for 64 bit fix for two reasons

1. infmap

2. no more these annoying errors

[hushed trail]

Tbf performance will always outweigh graphics in my opinion.

[subtle bison]

well it will also run better on 64-bit since we dont have to use the bridge anymore, it has a lot of overhead

even with my old 2080, im cpu bottlenecked in quite a few maps

[sacred night]

Idk if i need if i can post this here but when i use my phys gun on props it causes my screen to do this

using the grav gun on stuff works fine

[subtle bison]

you need to use
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2961222721&searchtext=fuck+em+halos

[sacred night]

and this is another problem i have

[sacred night]

okay thanks

[subtle bison]

idk if xenthio's video covers this but his rtx remix fixes addon creates a copy of your playermodel so you can have shadows in first person, just mark them as player model textures in the remix texture menu

[sacred night]

alright thanks

im gonna go double check to see if he does

ah he does just me not listening far enough

Question how far have people pushed the rtx remix for gmod like has anyone tried the vr mod with it?

[modern quest]

VR won't work. Remix can only work with a single camera (the view in-game) at a time

the only way would be to simulate a second lens afterward with something like ReShade

[sacred night]

ah okay thats sad

[subtle bison]

and it seems like reshade depth buffer access is broke with mainline builds of remix

only the portal rtx build had a working depth buffer (pulled from the rasterized renderer)

[subtle bison]

working on reimporting the gm_flatgrass 3d skybox back via model replacements, its a huge pain but i got somewhere

[willow fog]

bleh

[winter radish]

My wallet says no, but my heart wants a RTX GPU

[subtle bison]

do you mind making a steam collection of your addons?

[willow fog]

What do you want specifically

[subtle bison]

maps, mw base weapons, idk whatever you got

[willow fog]

I have many add-ons that simply don't work so I'll have to do a ton of cleanup first

[subtle bison]

all good

[peak rover]

rtx 4090

[winter radish]

Where can I sell my kidney?

[peak rover]

rtx 5090

coming out soon

save up for dat

[winter radish]

I'd have to save for a whole new computer because my current one would be a bottleneck

[peak rover]

😭

[noble vapor]

just got gmod, is this still the way? i'm not a py user i don't wanna keep installing/uninstalling it 😦

[lament quartz]

Yes

[half viper]

Keep it on

[half viper]

@keen rivet now that we have bridge api, im pretty sure there was a way to interact with binaries through Lua in Garry's mod

Like how mee got Nvidia flex working in Garry's mod

[keen rivet]

indeed there is

[half viper]

I wonder what we can do with the api

[subtle bison]

better light addons, create remix lights directly ingame

could also have it replace env_projectedtexture

[glossy mauve]

how would you even run that? RTX 8090? 😭

[lament quartz]

Wait like replaces all lights or has a light

[subtle bison]

idk any of that could be done

though i meant like spawn remix lights like the normal light/lamp tool

we could also possibly use the api for map edits? create a stable instance hash to add stuff from the toolkit instead of using a model replacement

possibilities are endless

[sacred night]

I mean as long as I can pull of 75 fps u will be fine

[glossy mauve]

good luck

[winter radish]

DLSS ultra performance, low SteamVR scale, and then frame generation

[glossy mauve]

might aswell use a oculus rift, 600p res

[near tartan]

I’m not too familiar with VR but my understanding is it uses VRAM and CPU mostly, so if I am correct, you probably could do it with a 4090

[willow fog]

If you're not too familiar then maybe don't talk about it

[glossy mauve]

High framerate and High resolution ray tracing is like oil and water

[subtle bison]

not to mention path tracing two full res viewports 💀

it might be runnable with a 4090 but the latency, denoising artifacts, and most definitely low framerate will make it sick inducing immediately

[near tartan]

Just my overall understanding

[gaunt ingot]

how did you fixed the arm colors?

[near tartan]

Never said it would run great but my estimate is about 30 to 40 fps

[subtle bison]

what is that estimate based on? you would need to factor in the base vr headset resolution, the game vr resolution, what gmod map (there are a lot of maps that run sub 20fps normally on remix), DLSS value (if DLSS even works for stereo rendering), etc

estimates cant really exist here since there is no technically feasable way of running this current day

most VR headsets are 2K per eye

even the 4090 would probably run into vram issues with how much vram remix uses

[near tartan]

My estimate was based off DLSS performance a 4090, and a 7800X3D with 32 gb of RAM, lien I said don’t know all too much about what VR demands, also come down to what you consider “playable”

No frame gen cause it’d use a lot of vram

[subtle bison]

framegen would not work in VR since those artifical frames are not perfect representations of real ones, that would definitely make someone sick

not to mention the added latency

[half viper]

Frame interpolation was always used in VR actually

[subtle bison]

when you're running under the target frame rate, its mostly used for reprojection

i could be wrong but steamvr's current implementation seems a lot cleaner than DLSS3 FG

at least for its intended use

[willow fog]

Addon arms

[near tartan]

But if I’m correct, roughy 30 to 40 fps

In my book, is playable

[glossy mauve]

my estimate was 20 fps running that Nvidia rtx xr demo, and that was more nauseating than a rollercoaster

[peak rover]

no

you arent hitting 30 fps

im sorry bro

with unpotimized rtx

rt

although maybe with the rtx 6090 or 5090

[near tartan]

Nah ya just gotta use the automatic overclocking, Trust

[peak rover]

bro

😡

[lament quartz]

Not at all, you aren't getting above 25 if you do vr rtx

[willow fog]

Who was gonna fix the shaders on the guns

[lament quartz]

Me, rn I'm welding a tanker and am working on it, like 5% done

[willow fog]

Better not burn Ur hand or smth

[near tartan]

that automatic overclocking is crazy as shit, I used it myself and went from 20fps up to 50 at times but it averaged at 45 on cyberpunk max settings 4k with a 4070 SUPER

[lament quartz]

I've done much worse than merely burn my hand, and I have a hole in my foot to prove it

[willow fog]

Epic

Worst I've done is solder my finger

[lament quartz]

That's just a little tickle to me now

[willow fog]

Well I've been in numerous motorcycle accidents

[lament quartz]

Weak shit, stop riding motorcycles

[willow fog]

Never

[quiet scroll]

What do y'all have for roughness in gmod?

[meager oar]

scale is the same but bias i at -0.110

[quiet scroll]

https://youtu.be/D7SlVA0zl6k

[lament quartz]

0.2 totally

[winter radish]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

[subtle bison]

i try to make sure any legacy materials are completely flat

still have no idea why, but yeah depth works with reshade if you use the portal rtx remix build

latest master or release does not work

[subtle bison]

https://youtu.be/f_--wZzLnFs

[lament quartz]

Them framed

[meager oar]

abomination41

player model light

[subtle bison]

super buggy but i got emissives working for ropes

i gotta retoggle emissive blend translation a few times before it shows correctly

alt-tabbing seems to break it too

[subtle bison]

that or switching to the camera nearby the ropes

really weird

i wonder if xenthio can do some lua magic to fix this buggyness, its definitely game engine related

[willow fog]

Looks fine to me

[subtle bison]

you dont see the emission literally disappearing midway in the video?

i made it pretty obvious

[willow fog]

Oh

Looks like a remix problem to me

[subtle bison]

nah the game is sending some funky d3d9 info back to remix, as it disappears in circumstantial cases

it looks fine in the toolkit

im sure source is doing some cursed stuff with ropes that isnt seen when rasterized

[lament quartz]

Would they be recolerable or just red btw

[subtle bison]

nah its not recolorable

you would have to edit the emissive map

same case as the physgun

only way possible for both of those to happen is if we had the remix api or something

[quiet scroll]

it's cool how the water decals get path traced

[lament quartz]

Nah man iont wanna work on another custom renderer I'm already tryna figure out and learn 2 different rendering engines

[lament quartz]

How did you get underwater to work

[subtle bison]

if i remember this correctly, you removed the nodraw for fixing the underwater?

[quiet scroll]

Yeah Gumball found a way to fix it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ERl1WIwGeo I haven't tried it yet. This map pool_complex_v2 just had it working naturally

I guess the map author removed it, I didn't have to use gumballs method

[subtle bison]

wait is it just literally just changing to the dx7 water material?

cant we do this in lua?

[lament quartz]

Them map devs be thinking of us for sure, and it's not just pure muck

Luck

[lament quartz]

It's changing plus removing nodraw brushes from the area iirc

[subtle bison]

still cant do that in lua?

im not the coding expert but it doesnt sound like we need to recompile maps for this

[quiet scroll]

perhaps possible?

[lament quartz]

Wdym

[quiet scroll]

I wonder if BlueAmulet has seen this

[subtle bison]

to do the method in the video, for existing maps you would have to decompile them, make the water edits, and then recompile

oops meant to reply

[lament quartz]

Correct

[quiet scroll]

I feel like when stage manager comes out we'll have a lot easier time adding lights to particle textures

[lament quartz]

damn it

also gmod is showing only a black screen for me, i did use the patcher and

oh wait never mind

i forgot gmod uses bin instead of right next to the exe

well no, its still black screen even now

[steel lark]

why have you not disabled spawn effect???

[subtle bison]

im curious to see if emission will work on the fire textures or be a buggy mess like the ropes, only one way to find out

yea its broken in the same way ropes are

[lament quartz]

Interesting

[subtle bison]

it looks good in the toolkit tho

sorry for the 144p viewport

one thing that bothers me is that the toolkit has a remix category called alpha blend to cutout, which is what makes the particle emissive, but this remix category is missing in the runtime

you can try to turn it on inside the toolkit but it doesnt stick

[subtle bison]

hu

popo explain pls

🥹

[meager oar]

i just brighten the image

[subtle bison]

yea i did that for the emissive map

but also added a black background so it applies correctly

[meager oar]

hmm i used octatex to make it emissive

[subtle bison]

and it just works ootb?

[meager oar]

yep it wrks after brightening the image

[subtle bison]

i cant even get my emissive map to apply to the fire/rope without fiddling with these 2 options in the runtime

[meager oar]

imma try to make it even mureee brighter

[subtle bison]

i got remix to ignore the game's alpha blend and now my emission map shows but its not casting light lol

why is this so cursed

fixes ropes a bit but the alpha on the actual rope is brokey

remix pls

[half viper]

Tag it as a beam texture

[subtle bison]

no change

im probably going to reimport the albedo with a alpha layer
(was not replaced prior)

[lament quartz]

Tag it as dear lord rtx remix please fix texture

[meager oar]

is this the red laser looking rope?

[subtle bison]

ye

[meager oar]

huh it was full glowy when i used it imma check it again

[subtle bison]

i have no idea what cursed shit octotex does

anyway, the alpha albedo definitely helped

it still not fully correct

ok and now emission light casting broke again

wtf remix

i didnt even change anything

and ofc it looks fine in the toolkit

[quiet scroll]

Maybe the ropes tagged in the rtx.conf as something? 🤔

[subtle bison]

nah i untagged it

tagging it doesnt really do anything since the assets are replaced too

[meager oar]

crap now the fire is not emitting light anymore after i switched my weapon idk why it caused that

[subtle bison]

yea legacy alpha is bugged (controlled by the game engine)

[meager oar]

well atleast have a image of it

wait a second imma see if its cause the hash id changed

[subtle bison]

if i can figure out the ropes, i can probably figure out the fire

😮

https://tenor.com/view/lfg-gif-24650070

the magic sauce

fucking finally

[meager oar]

yay

and yea the fire texture hash is the same so thts not da issue

[subtle bison]

omg it works so well now that the game engine isnt fucking it up
time to try this on fire

😮

[subtle bison]

the alpha is gonna need some serious touchup but it fucking works 🔥

also fuck my ISP who is graciously throttling my upload speeds 😭

[lament quartz]

Fire

Literally fire

[quiet scroll]

COOL!

Rtx fire

[subtle bison]

wish i had a higher res version of the vanilla fire textue

this is gonna be hard to fix...

[quiet scroll]

Do you know the filename of the original? I might have an upscaled version 👀

[subtle bison]

9EB2F7B527E7A646.dds

i used popo's albedo which was higher res than mine

but i dont think a upscale is gonna help for alpha

idk maybe

its gotta be manually cleaned up in photoshop 😭

you can see all of the black pixels

maybe we can use a different texture?
i really dont wanna clean this

[quiet scroll]

Yeah damn I don’t have an upscale And yeah no way that’s too much to cleanup

[lament quartz]

Make a new fire texture

[subtle bison]

im gonna try resubbing to these 3 addons and pray fire still works

#1116089843479498782 message

and then ill just make the new fire textures emissive

ok well nvm all 3 dont work

i think rtx fixes overrides it since its manually extracted

so ill have to edit the rtx fixes addon kill me

ok i got a idea

ill just use the mmod fire texture atlas and make it a remix mod instead of replacing it in the rtx fixes addon

that should work fine

[meager oar]

there u go

disable that translation option

[subtle bison]

it breaks other things if you do that

its best to leave it and the override on for legacy materials

now that we have a way to fix emissives in toolkit we dont have to mess with those options anymore

[meager oar]

heres the weird part though, if i disable translation, then disable render alpha, enable it back and enable translation back this happens, the light emits

[subtle bison]

yea this is the issue i was running into yesterday

i gave up using legacy alpha blend so i wouldnt have to mess with that anymore

[willow fog]

Why don't you just change the global emissive intensity

[meager oar]

yea its buggy as heck, switching to weapons makes it stop emitting light

[subtle bison]

i think with octotex his emissives are replaced so global emissive wont do anything

its only used for legacy assets

[lament quartz]

@willow fog do you still need the guns shaders removed or

[willow fog]

I do

[lament quartz]

Alr

[subtle bison]

dear lord this looks much better

its still a bit blocky if you really zoom in but i hope its not noticable ingame

[meager oar]

hmmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQZxG2f9Efc these ropes wrked flawlessly a year ago, no replacements or anything

now this dayum

[subtle bison]

might be because of the specific portal rtx build?

i remember all particles casting light

[meager oar]

yea this is using the first portal rtx build

[meager oar]

yea and setting a texture as particle didnt make it disappear in the skybox, here its wrk so nicely https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ziM-HJ4HuE

[subtle bison]

yea i wish that still worked

that looks sick af

[meager oar]

yea look at the tornados casting shadows that like at that time really blew my mind, i wish it still wrked

[willow fog]

Bro has never played modern games

[subtle bison]

well i added the new fire texture but both gmod and remix literally do not apply it correctly

its still showing the old fire texture despite it showing in the toolkit preview

i wonder if it caches textures, maybe ill try different names

[meager oar]

can u share the new fire texture, imma see if it will apply for me

[subtle bison]

one sec, im still trying stuff

ok well its definitely using the new texture

even though the new texture is 1.5x higher res and a hell of a lot cleaner, the black pixels are still easily visible

💀

i think its because of the alpha sorting/filtering

ima keep fiddling with it

so i can either fix the blending and lose emission, or get emission and lose blending 💀

[meager oar]

gold pp

[subtle bison]

yea im giving up on fire

there is no way to fix the alpha without losing emission

[lament quartz]

How did popo fix it

[meager oar]

idk but now its not wrking even for me after i switched weapons

[subtle bison]

he has a emissive texture with legacy alpha state

aka the game controlls the alpha

which seems to be the only way to get the correct blending and emission

but the issue is that it doesnt work most of the time

[lament quartz]

AH

Oops caps

[subtle bison]

btw @meager oar

you can fix the skybox particle issue by turning down particle softness to 0

[meager oar]

dauyyum imma check it out

[subtle bison]

omg

lmfao

[lament quartz]

What

[subtle bison]

[meager oar]

hmm not wrking still for me

[half viper]

The color of the ray is controlled by the shader?

[subtle bison]

no

its the same rope replacement

just applied to the physgun

[half viper]

Btw is it still selected as a beam?

[subtle bison]

no, it doesnt make a difference for replaced assets

[half viper]

Because its supposed to solve the issue where it casts shadows

[subtle bison]

how so?

it seems to cast shadows fine

[half viper]

Its not supposed to

[half viper]

Because its a billboard sprite

[subtle bison]

ah

[half viper]

Remix has a feature for those

Which is selecting it as beam texture

[subtle bison]

even with beam it seems to do it

[lament quartz]

[half viper]

That's weird

Replace it with a 3D beam

[subtle bison]

geometry hash is unstable so that aint gonna happen

unfortunately

i dont think its supposed to cast a shadow lmao

[half viper]

I know

Grrr i started this thread!!
No need to tell me!! /J

[lament quartz]

And I deleted the thread soooo

[subtle bison]

well at least i got another thing working well after getting rid of legacy alpha

smg scope emission works correctly now

[lament quartz]

Hooray

[subtle bison]

oml yess

it finally looks correct

i was scratching my head on why i couldnt have reflectivity and emission working at the same time

[lament quartz]

Why isn't the bottom red one glowing

[subtle bison]

i forgot to add it

[lament quartz]

!!

[subtle bison]

idek if it actually glows in the base game

[lament quartz]

[subtle bison]

i might have another idea for the fire

replace it with a static texture instead of a atlas, and then import the atlas as a animated texture into remix?

idk if that would actually work tho

especially for emission

[subtle bison]

colormatched physbeam now

[subtle bison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyfOHGQewDk

[near tartan]

you just throw it in your mod folder?

[subtle bison]

for gmod it's GarrysMod/garrysmod/addons/

[near tartan]

worked for my friend on hl2 with portal so ima try it

his dumbass don't remember where he put it so ill do some experimenting

[near tartan]

btw in order to make it work for portal hl2 all you have to do is make a folder in the hl2 folder called "custom" and then just extract the file to there

[subtle bison]

ye

[quiet scroll]

Really starting to see why roughness maps help things make sense lmaooo - Lara has PBR and Eli doesn't

This is with roughness at 1 and bias at 0

[half viper]

Uhhh

Change the legacy materials parameters

[subtle bison]

yeah

please

[idle pilot]

why is my sky grey?

[serene geyser]

hi, Where can i dawnload the remix?

[idle pilot]

help

[lapis delta]

increase sky brightness

[subtle bison]

i also think the volumetric fog is too strong

idk if its my screen but i can barely make out the blue

[idle pilot]

how do i turn it down

[idle pilot]

i tried

[meager oar]

open the froxel tab and turn all the three scattering values to a value like 0.2 or 0.1 or u can completely disable volumetric lighting in the same tab

[idle pilot]

ok so it works now i just checked its just the rtx contruct

wait no

i lied

i thought

but nah

wtf

my thing is so broke bro

[subtle bison]

did you follow the guide pinned in this channel?

[idle pilot]

yeah

[subtle bison]

https://youtu.be/JeMrlemVSl8

[idle pilot]

ill redo it

[subtle bison]

make sure you're using the provided rtx.conf

[idle pilot]

i am

[quiet scroll]

arghhhh lmaooo I switched roughness to 1 on the wrong tab - thanks

[idle pilot]

ok so it works now

idk what i did before

[idle pilot]

wtf is froxel tab

[steel lark]

in the rendering part

[near tartan]

keep getting this error while trying to set up?

[tulip meadow]

you need to install python

[near tartan]

I did

[tulip meadow]

from where

[near tartan]

the link under the video

[tulip meadow]

like python.com?

[near tartan]

yeah i think

no

[tulip meadow]

in install did you click "add python to PATH"

[near tartan]

it was python.org

[tulip meadow]

yeh org mb

[near tartan]

I don't think so, I just clicked install and that's all i remember really

i did it quick so I wasn't rlly paying attention

[tulip meadow]

you can manually add it but itd be easier to uninstall it

and re run install

[near tartan]

okay

[tulip meadow]

dont click through options look for add python to path option

and turn it on

and then make sure to close cmd prompt and open it back up again after install

[near tartan]

new error that don't make any sense

im 99% confident I see it right there

@sombody

explain how ts is possibe

[tulip meadow]

That file isn't a python file, it's a txt file name .py

so you'll need to open it

Click save as

In name box type in

applypatch.py

Click ok

Then under type it'll say python file (icon should change too)

And run that command again

[near tartan]

I'm doing smth wrong

[tulip meadow]

send that file here

[near tartan]

no i mean when I save it coems back as a txt file

ill screen record and show you what i'm doing to see if somethings wrong

[tulip meadow]

i understand ill fix it for you if you send that txt file

[near tartan]

thankyou

[tulip meadow]

np 🙂

[near tartan]

so i just install and put it in the folder now and it should work

[tulip meadow]

You put it in folder instead of that txt file and run the cmd command again

[near tartan]

yeah okay thanks

[idle pilot]

ok so my sky is cloudy for some reason

so depressing

[keen rivet]

yep thats what i was thinking

[quiet scroll]

It's fun watching NPC's move around casting their own shadows and shift the light in the room by being in the way of a light source etc

[glossy mauve]

dynamic lights are awesome, i love seeing physics objects change it on a explosion

[night bramble]

It's cause on the far right you have to change the context menu from Text Document to All files.

[willow fog]

bro hasn't played a game in the last 15 years

[meager oar]

yep it makes npc battles in Gmod more atmospheric and cool but spawning more then 7 npcs just lowers my fps to 30 idk why, wish there was a mod to optimize it like Vphysics does for props in Gmod

[jaunty mica]

hit it right on the bell, remember playing mw2 2009 and being mesmerized at the npcs casting shadows from lamps and shit

[glossy mauve]

:<

animated textures still are buggy

[willow fog]

L

[half viper]

Ping someone for that

[night bramble]

Looks like it’ll look amazing if functioning correctly though!

[hasty sonnet]

yo

someone there like whats the bst version for python in this?

i forgot

since its been some years

[meager oar]

i forgot i can replace da sky

[safe jewel]

anyone know how to fix the verex buffer error?

[glossy mauve]

using the most realistically accurate lighting models for abstract art ✨

[meager oar]

idk

AHH

[safe jewel]

anyone know how to fix the verex buffer error?

[glossy mauve]

modellin is har

[safe jewel]

ok, I have rtx gmod and I have the whole scene captured my first goal is to remaster/upscale all the textures using comfyui, but I have no clue how and there aren't any tutorials I could find

[quiet scroll]

There are some upscalers the community here has made that I highly recommend, https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1263287747905327236 and https://discord.com/channels/1028444667789967381/1216200397497045002 the instructions for PBRFusion are in the workflow charts, and for PBRify the instructions are here under the "steps". Make sure to only get the Comfyui version of PBRify https://github.com/Kim2091/PBRify_Remix?tab=readme-ov-file#comfyui

chat I'm cooking, I made a theater projector

[glossy mauve]

added melon racer to the pbr pack (just the melon n some other stuff)

[lament quartz]

Most important game mode of my childhood

[glossy mauve]

now in RTX™️

[lament quartz]

Wow, high resolution melon, shits literally triarch call of duty

[gaunt ingot]

guys

whats the most newest rtx config?

[subtle bison]

the one in xenthio's video

[lament quartz]

Do you guys know how to fix the viewport being all black in a capture?

I can only see the captured lights sources icons.

[subtle bison]

what the

[lament quartz]

Not cash money

[solar wadi]

hey everyone how do i get gmod rtx

ping reply

[solar wadi]

thanks

[quiet scroll]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/liminal-gallery-rtx

[quiet scroll]

Anybody remember how to mount black mesa 2012 mod version to gmod? I'm adding "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\sourcemods\BMS" to mount.cfg but nothing appears

[quiet scroll]

yippeeeee I got it, mym folder was "blackmesa" rather than "bms" in all the tutorials

[meager oar]

wat was the console command that fix the invisible geometry on maps? need it for a map

[lament quartz]

mat_forcedynamic 1

[safe jewel]

ok when the offical rtx remix for half life 2 realeses will we be able to take it's assets/textures and put them into gmod?

[lament quartz]

Most likely yeah

As long as the hash is the same I guess?

[meager oar]

yus portal rtx assets didnt wrk on gmod cause the hashes were different i think idk

[lament quartz]

Hello guys!

Why there is culling?

[meager oar]

U got blu amulats patches?

[lament quartz]

that python file?

yes

i ran it like "python applypatches.py ."

[lament quartz]

Did you take out the contents from patched?

yes

[meager oar]

hmm well I mean I can help super easily...um let me see

[lament quartz]

ok i relaunched the game and now it's ok

What abt the rtx remix addon?

thanks!

[willow fog]

peen

[willow fog]

pen15

What have I gotten myself into

[willow fog]

bowls

mag brokey

[willow fog]

eeeeby deeeby

bullets and barrel and muzzle brokey

[lament quartz]

How brokey we talkin

[willow fog]

completely black

[lament quartz]

And that's with none of the tecture vmts edited?

[willow fog]

ye

[lament quartz]

Right and you aren't going to edit any of them, your asking me to do it?

[willow fog]

You offered first

[lament quartz]

Yeah well

I'm still at work

Without a pc

[willow fog]

Wait where are the addons downloaded?

Reddit is being super useful rn

[lament quartz]

In the workshop folder, I think you'll need to search the entire pc for the addon id if yk how to get that