Garry's Mod

[subtle bison]

ah so it's most likely gwater1

isnt gwater2 under patreon?

[meager oar]

Of course hehe I don't have gwater 2 😭

Wait were u all thinking it was gwater 2 all along?

[glossy mauve]

would be awesome if gwater 2 worked

[meager oar]

Yep and I think it will becomr free after Mee finishes it

[subtle bison]

^

good chance it wont since it relies on external physx libraries and a way to overlay it over the main d3d9 renderer

[glossy mauve]

that's when we strike 🙏 😈

[winter radish]

It would be cool just to host RTX Remix multi-player events just to look at maps and stuff, lol

[glossy mauve]

that'd be awesome

tough with how outdated my gmod is i doubt i could join

still awesome idea

[meager oar]

I have the latest one, it's pretty easy to reinstall again cause I got practiced for doing it so many times

[subtle bison]

uhh

this is without gumballegal's dlls

[glossy mauve]

hm

[subtle bison]

i did not find the file, i simply downgraded my game to the march version, used the latest blueamulet patcher, grabbed these files from prelude rtx and here i am

how did i not discover this ages ago

anyway now that it's figured out now everyone can have fire ❤️

[lament quartz]

iont know how to downgrade to do this waaaaaaa

[subtle bison]

we might not actually

i need to confirm if that's actually needed, i only did it because gumball's dlls are from around that version and i was having crashing issues

[glossy mauve]

really?

[subtle bison]

try moving those 4 dlls from portal prelude rtx into your gmod on a modern ver

ill try updating mine rq

[lament quartz]

I dont have prelude installed one moment

[subtle bison]

i also did not verify if prelude is needed either

lemme try portal rtx dlls

[lament quartz]

can you send thoes dlls here, i dont have space to install prelude

[subtle bison]

they work too

[subtle bison]

hold on ima try a few things before i confirm everything i did to get fire working is actually true

god this is such a mess 😭

[lament quartz]

ok

[glossy mauve]

@subtle bison just to ask, do you have crashing problems on your main? and was it crashing like constantly on the version i use?

[subtle bison]

nah it was crashing on map load after mixing and matching a few files

definitely on me

[glossy mauve]

oh oka

[meager oar]

hmmm I have the latest Gmod I'll see if fire works for me

[glossy mauve]

@meager oar while you're at it, can you test if the ar2 particles work too?

[hoary shore]

tutorial pls hahaha

[subtle bison]

ok well when using the stock stdshader*.dll files i cant even load into a map

i dont know if they actually fix the fire but it helps with stability using the portal version of those dlls for the march update

though if im not mistaken we didnt need to do this for newer gmod versions?

im upgrading to the august/july updatr

we'll see what happens

[peak rover]

ok small promblem

i verify the game steam files yadayada

it didnt fix the promble

the rtdx files

rtx

are still

in my base gmod

[subtle bison]

yea you need to rename the folder with the rtx files to something else

[peak rover]

i did

[subtle bison]

steam shouldnt be redownloading the rtx files?

maybe send a screenshot of the folder

[peak rover]

how to ss

on win 10

[subtle bison]

Win + Shift + S

then you can paste it into discord

[subtle bison]

so you renamed GarrysMod to GarrysModRTX ?

that's what i meant

[peak rover]

yeah

that one your seeing rn

is supposed

to be my main gmod

the other one you see

thats called

"gmod with rtx"

is the rtx version ofc

[subtle bison]

so you have 2 duplicate rtx installs or is gmod with rtx empty?

[peak rover]

2

[subtle bison]

huh, well delete everything in the GarrysMod folder and then re-verify game cache, you want this one to not have rtx files

[peak rover]

you sure abt this

[subtle bison]

yeah that's the intention, you shouldnt have much to worry about wiping your gmod unless you have some specific config files, the game will redownload its addons when you launch it

[meager oar]

yep fire is not wrking nor ar2 particle, heck not only ar2 but all the default hl2 weapons

[peak rover]

okie dokie

bye bye gmod

[subtle bison]

@glossy mauve how did you check your gmod version?

im supposedly on the august update and fire works

also am i installing my gmod rtx wrong? i still need those 4 dlls from portal/prelude rtx otherwise a lot of maps crash on load

ik this is an older issue but i swear blueamulet fixed this a different way

AR2 particles seem to work too?

ill get a video

[meager oar]

huh im also on the aug update, the fire did wrked before the aug update for me cause i was playing with my friend online and he kept blowing me up

[peak rover]

ok its downloading gmod again 🙂

i wish gmod rtx worked with a vr bro

but i think it would be hella laggy

nvnm

[subtle bison]

@meager oar this look good to you?

[glossy mauve]

version on console

[subtle bison]

uhh what

i replaced my entire bin with the august update

[glossy mauve]

huh

[subtle bison]

holy crap all mmod particles work now

[meager oar]

dang that looks cool why da heck did my fire stopped wrking uff

[peak rover]

is gmod rtx just broken with proformance on some mod maps?

[subtle bison]

its just really heavy

especially on large maps or a lot of alpha effects

[lament quartz]

Some maps have too many textures to even load, like my map, altho there is a fix for it

[subtle bison]

[lament quartz]

:yooooo:

[subtle bison]

ok so maybe we need more newer install instructions?

though i still need someone else to reproduce this before i think my method is right

anyone able to?

[hoary shore]

voluntary here

[subtle bison]

if you have one of the rtx games installed, copy these 4 files from Portal with RTX/bin to GarrysMod/bin

i cant send them here as that would have legal issues

[hoary shore]

prelude or normal?

[subtle bison]

either

they both work

[hoary shore]

ok

[meager oar]

ill try

[hoary shore]

ok now

[subtle bison]

run the game and see if igniting anything shows fire

[lament quartz]

😢

Now I gotta make room somehow

[meager oar]

unless

[lament quartz]

Unless what

[meager oar]

well there u go

[subtle bison]

ah man it looks even better when it interacts with light

here is my rtx.conf if yall have the mmod weapons/particles

[lament quartz]

it fixed the wolfenstein ports too

[meager oar]

not wrkng for me but imma try your conf and see

[subtle bison]

i dont see much going on here, what if you set a prop on fire?

[subtle bison]

try installing the blueamulet patched dlls over a clean bin folder

[lament quartz]

for note the guns flashes used to be white squares and werent changeable in the menu

same with the rpgs explosion

[hoary shore]

nope

[hoary shore]

how

[meager oar]

yep definitely sum problem on my end cause this was clearly lit

[subtle bison]

ok still not fully reproducable

any spam of logs in the console while stuff is on fire in front of you?

[hoary shore]

i dont have that patch btw idk if maybe is cuz that

[peak rover]

question if i download a mod will it download in both verions of my gmod the rtx and non rtx one or no

[subtle bison]

you shouldnt be able to load into most maps if that were the case

[hoary shore]

i mean i have the xenthios patch

[subtle bison]

yes, gmod actually downloads the content when its ran

so both get it

[peak rover]

icing on the cake

[subtle bison]

it should be the same, its linked in the youtube video

[subtle bison]

i used the steam depot downloader to specifically download the bin folder from steam instead of the whole game but its a pain to use, i would recommend doing a fresh gmod install instead, i can try to make a mini guide though if enough people want to try it

[hoary shore]

hmmm im gonna try that

[subtle bison]

though i still think there is a missing piece

i need to figure out if its either a game version issue or some kind of random chance

[hoary shore]

maybe,i have the latest version of everything

[subtle bison]

im gonna download a new gmod off steam

and reinstall remix and the patches, etc

[lament quartz]

@meager oar whats ur fallback settings

[hoary shore]

@subtle bison r u sure that with only that dlls fire works

maybe its another one

[subtle bison]

i didnt change any other dll other than the ones that get patched by blueamulets patcher

either way im about to find out

[lament quartz]

I still get texture errors with mmod redux tho

[subtle bison]

idk if i have the same mmod addon as you

ill check as soon as i verify my current test

[lament quartz]

lmao

[subtle bison]

ok so those dlls help with stability but with a completely fresh copy fire is dead

omg why is this so hard to figure out 😭

[hoary shore]

nope mine doesnt work

[subtle bison]

i can even copy the bin folder from the working gmod install with fire and it doesnt work

what the hell is going on

[hoary shore]

maybe it could be the rtx bridge version

[subtle bison]

its the same rtx ver for all 3

portal rtx's

but the remix runtime has nothing to do with it

the engine is the issue itself

ok well now its broken for my backup

[hoary shore]

this one and the other one have everything the same?

[subtle bison]

the only major difference was uninstalling all of my addons except for the rtx fixes, etc

yes

so a addon is fixing this?

and if so what

it seems random really

[hoary shore]

how many addons u have installed in the one that the fire worked

[subtle bison]

a lot but i just recently fixed mine (earlier), but im not sure if its actually an addon

me and gumball dont have the same ones and his works

i still need to mess around a bit

if i find out a striking detail ill note it here

[glossy mauve]

lmao i love seeing yall surprised with something i've had since forever

[subtle bison]

yeah but i just broke mine again with no idea why

we really need to figure out what exactly fixes/breaks it

[hoary shore]

lol,and just cuz i asked something hahahah

[subtle bison]

im determined to get it figured out

[glossy mauve]

hehehe keep curious

[glossy mauve]

you got this o7

[subtle bison]

omfg why does gmod need to delete unsubscribed addons

just dont use them 💀

i gotta redownload 135 addons now

[glossy mauve]

lmao i find it funny that my rtx gmod build does download new addons i subscribe to

but won't uninstall ones i've unsubbed

[hoary shore]

mine too ,i had like 20gb of unsubbed addons

[meager oar]

not wrking 😦 i even tried CR cinfig, portal rtx remix files, uninstalled and reinstalled dlls but still wont wrk but imma try unsubbing addons

[hoary shore]

dont do that

i have a clean gmod and neither work

[meager oar]

hmm augest update seems to have broken the fire for me, it did wrk before

[hoary shore]

maybe is that

[meager oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRPHf7eYJMw&t=54s look at the thumbnail the fire is wrking, this was before aug update

i wonder if Vfire would have wrked if i tested it at that time

[meager oar]

does Vfire wrk for u?

[subtle bison]

no idea since im still trying to get normal fire fixed 😭

[meager oar]

it got broken for u again?

[subtle bison]

reinstalling my addons fixed the fire what

[glossy mauve]

seems like a particles problem in general

[subtle bison]

at least on my backup

lemme try the fresh gmod install

it works on the august update

Exe version 2023.06.28 (garrysmod)
Exe build: 17:28:13 Jul 24 2024 (9391) (4000)
GMod version 2024.08.09, branch: unknown, multicore: 1

idk why it says older but this is straght up downloaded from steam

[hoary shore]

sso probably its actually a addon

[subtle bison]

yea im making a collection for yall to try

[glossy mauve]

what kinda addon is that??

crazy

wait

do you think it's remix fixes?

[hoary shore]

probably one addon that changes or touch the way fire works on source

[subtle bison]

its not remix fixes as i had those on the fresh install first

ok well steam doesnt let me create a collection so here is the 3 addons i tried

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1752929412
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1796166180
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3229087828

though this didnt fix fire for me the first time i tried them

ill try removing them and see if fire still works

fire still works without them

the fuck

what in the name of that is holy fixing fire

[meager oar]

this is some weird stuff man

[glossy mauve]

dark magic

the fabled source spagetthi

[hoary shore]

good news

[meager oar]

fire wrks?

[hoary shore]

it works now 🙂

[meager oar]

wat did u dooooo???

those 3 addons?

[hoary shore]

but i mena

it works for barrels and pnjs

but doesnt work on maps

[glossy mauve]

oh yeah this is the addon i was talking about when we started!

the one i coulnd't find the name of

[subtle bison]

yea but i can disable all 3 and fire still works

it cant be them

[glossy mauve]

hm

[glossy mauve]

did you noclip there?

[subtle bison]

it fixes some smoke particles but it doesnt actually fix broken particles in general

[glossy mauve]

you need to go trough the trigger first to spawn that fire

[hoary shore]

no

[glossy mauve]

go back into the lil house that you break trough the pallet and see if it shows up now

[glossy mauve]

this is some advanced spagetti

[subtle bison]

i only have rtx fixes and niknaks (the required addon for rtx fixes) enabled

💀

its just really fucking janky

[glossy mauve]

huh

[hoary shore]

wtf

[glossy mauve]

do you think it could be map based?

[subtle bison]

no

it also broke on flatgrass

[glossy mauve]

idk just trowin stuff at the wall at this point

yeah

[hoary shore]

now try the ravenholm map and see\

[subtle bison]

i think there is some condition to be met that fixes this

[hoary shore]

but its strange,for guball it works for everything

[subtle bison]

ok i restarted my game with the same addons AND THE FIRE IS BROKEN AGAIN

no way

[glossy mauve]

what 😭

i do wanna mention

i went to play today

the AR2 plasma ball explosion wasn't showing up

is there any command to reload particles?

[subtle bison]

ok i fucking got it

those 3 addons do fix it

you just restart your game after installing/enabling it

and it magically works again

no fucking way this cant be true

[glossy mauve]

time to decompilee and loook at how they work

woof

[subtle bison]

i still thing there is something horribly wrong here

and i just havent discovered it yet

[glossy mauve]

yeah same

[subtle bison]

ok

i figured it out

the addon is changing how fire works for entities

but for map fire

its still broken

notice the zombies on fire

but no fire here

[glossy mauve]

weird

since it works for me

[subtle bison]

💀

[glossy mauve]

yeah

can you try the alt fire on the ar2?

does it have that ring-like explosion?

[subtle bison]

stock AR2?

[glossy mauve]

mhm

[subtle bison]

it worked when i had the mmod guns with the older gmod ver

[hoary shore]

yup got the same result

[subtle bison]

lemme try on the newer ver

[subtle bison]

maybe we can get xenthio to do some lua magic to fix fire?

[glossy mauve]

please 😭

[subtle bison]

surely if these fire addons can partially fix it, he can go the full way?

[hoary shore]

so how does gumballegal have fire in ravenholm

[subtle bison]

older gmod ver

lemme try my march bin folder to verify

[hoary shore]

rtx remix with source have the most strange bugs i have ever seen in my entire life

[glossy mauve]

classic source engine X3

[subtle bison]

hopefully the hl2 rtx engine is the most friendly of the bunch

[hoary shore]

hopefully were alive to see that,i think its more probably to see first gta 6

[glossy mauve]

yup

or half life 3 lmao

[subtle bison]

nah looking at the ravenholm trailer, and assuming its chronlogical progress, it could be 6 months to a year away

[glossy mauve]

we'll figure this out

i'm just annoyed i can't use my toolkit

[subtle bison]

march engine

[hoary shore]

ok so the thing is,the things thats solving the problem are addons

[subtle bison]

and finally, time to try gumball's bin folder

aka hell

🙂

[glossy mauve]

X3

[subtle bison]

Exe version 2023.06.28 (garrysmod)
Exe build: 15:18:08 Dec 14 2023 (9040) (4000)
GMod version 2024.03.21, branch: unknown, multicore: 1

[half viper]

It already does that

[subtle bison]

guh

[half viper]

Xenthios mod is supposed to fix fire

[hoary shore]

SUPPOSED

[subtle bison]

maybe it got broken over time?

our results seem extremely inconsistent

[half viper]

It never worked for us but for xenthio and gumball

It fixes even vfire

[glossy mauve]

cause i'm lazy and never updated uwu

[half viper]

#1116089843479498782 message

[hoary shore]

now we need to know,why it works for them and not for us

[subtle bison]

sounds like a time for more extensive testing

[hoary shore]

have you tried already with gumball's bin?

[subtle bison]

just did

no fire but also no errors in the console

i didnt noclip

nvm

there are errors

[hoary shore]

@glossy mauve what graphic card u have

[subtle bison]

just different ones

[hoary shore]

and what version of drivers?

[subtle bison]

nah the gpu or driver isnt the issue here

[half viper]

Shouldn't matter

[subtle bison]

its still an engine bug

[hoary shore]

ok,its obviously that gumball or xenthios have something we dont have

[subtle bison]

@keen rivet hate to ping you but me and a few others have spent a good couple hours trying to reproduce working fire, no one here except you and gumball seem to have everything working. I was able to partially fix it with other addons that replace the original particles but maybe you could try your fix in a clean environment to help us debug?

you can see our results by scrolling up after this ping

[keen rivet]

Hmm they should work I think?

[subtle bison]

^

a fresh install (august build) with the rtx fixes addon (and its dependencies)

nothing else

[keen rivet]

I kinda can't be bothered setting up a new environment right now to test haha

[subtle bison]

that's ok, whenever you get the time

[keen rivet]

Lol ok

[glossy mauve]

question, does anyone else get this broken alpha mask when turning on their flashlight?

[meager oar]

yes

[hoary shore]

put its as a decal

[glossy mauve]

ah i see

[subtle bison]

yea its a weird bug

[hoary shore]

its related to some rtx configs

[subtle bison]

hu

[glossy mauve]

i just realized i made the textures on the default pbr pack 512x res -3-

[hoary shore]

btw,what causes the underwater bug in source?

[glossy mauve]

wdym?

[hoary shore]

when u go underwater every texture outside the water dissapeat

[glossy mauve]

oh huh

sorry i'm a lil blank on this one

[subtle bison]

i think it uses a separate render pass

it culls out anything above the surface as well

someone here fixed it in the really early days but i think it was a engine mod

safe to assume hl2 rtx will also fix it

[hoary shore]

maybe cuz portal rtx have that issue too

[subtle bison]

it does

you dont ever go underwater (at least able to for a few seconds before dying lol) in those games so it was never fixed

[glossy mauve]

isn't there a console command for this?

[subtle bison]

uhh i forgor 💀

[glossy mauve]

could've sworn there was

[hoary shore]

if there was only a way to turn of occlusion culling on source hahaha

[subtle bison]

you would have to search real early in this discord

its when remix wasnt open source yet

[hoary shore]

mmmm

ok im seeing some messages from 2023

kamilk made a fix,but it seems to work only on gm construct

[subtle bison]

i thought he also fixed it for hl2?

it might be in the hl2 or general thread

[hoary shore]

.

[subtle bison]

oh is that it lol

mat_drawwater 0

[glossy mauve]

haha knew there was one

[subtle bison]

i think i already have that in my launch params tho

[hoary shore]

its works

but it disables water

[glossy mauve]

guessing it's a custom water replacement for construct only then?

[subtle bison]

yea i think the actual fix was a engine hack then

lemme see if i can find it

[glossy mauve]

try this r_ForceWaterLeaf 1 @hoary shore

[subtle bison]

https://youtu.be/t99Me2NJWjc

[hoary shore]

nope

[subtle bison]

doesnt do anything for me either

[lament quartz]

Igor is what got me started here

[glossy mauve]

huh

[subtle bison]

same

[glossy mauve]

r_waterforceexpensive 0 ?

mb

[subtle bison]

nada

[glossy mauve]

hm

[hoary shore]

but in this clip it works cuz the water is not deep

[subtle bison]

yeah but it would still cull everything above

i can go to that map to prove it

[hoary shore]

go for it

[subtle bison]

omg i forgot this is a HDR map and it doesnt work correctly unless i have the fixed version

so i have no map lighting 💀

ty valve for 15 year old bugs

[hoary shore]

F,btw is there map lighting for highway 17 chapter?

[subtle bison]

if you have a fixed version of the bsp

[lament quartz]

Fixed version? How does one get her maps to work (I wanna try it on atmospheric house)

[subtle bison]

as long as mat_fullbright isnt engaged lighting will work

[subtle bison]

decompile and recompile the map with modern hammer with HDR disabled

[glossy mauve]

yup

that's how i made gm_construct rtx

[lament quartz]

Man how did sk get it to work without

Allrrr

[glossy mauve]

water culling for world geometry only?

[subtle bison]

yes

models seem to stay

[glossy mauve]

i'm very sure there's a console command to disable hdr in any map

[hoary shore]

hmmm,there aint a way to deactivate culling on source 😩

[subtle bison]

if the map has a SDR version

[glossy mauve]

i c

[glossy mauve]

eyup

[subtle bison]

lotta new maps these days are HDR only

[glossy mauve]

smh

sdr gang

[lament quartz]

Phooey

[glossy mauve]

random but i love how the water looks

also the caustics guy would go crazy over this

[subtle bison]

rtx remix caustics when

would also fix non-thin glass flagged materials casting shadows

[glossy mauve]

yup

they do actually cast colored shadows wich is funny

[subtle bison]

if you enabled thin-walled iirc

i have videos trying it

[glossy mauve]

yup

[subtle bison]

but then you lose refraction

so its chose 1 atm

[hoary shore]

so maybe there's a way to make hl2 full functionable on rtx remix?

[subtle bison]

yea there is

use hl2 updates maps

i got hl2 update mmod running under portal prelude's engine lol

coast seemed to work

[hoary shore]

gotta try that

but it have culling issues?

[subtle bison]

by default yes but it can be fixed

its also a pain in the ass to set up but i mentioned briefly how in #1103495588374401115 recently

[hoary shore]

everything that involves rtx remix and source together

[subtle bison]

yes

[hoary shore]

i have faith to valve release source 2 sdk

one day

[subtle bison]

here is the infamous nova prospect map with fullbright working correctly under HL2U mmod

[hoary shore]

wooow

[subtle bison]

hey look guys i got early access to hl2 rtx 🤓

[hoary shore]

how many hours and fallen hair was there

[subtle bison]

definitely not copying the trailer or anything

[glossy mauve]

[subtle bison]

honestly it didnt take that much time when i discovered portal prelude rtx is just source sdk 2013 singleplayer rtx in disguise

lmfao

[hoary shore]

looool

[subtle bison]

i just moved a bunch of sourcemods directly to preludes directory and tried running them

hl2 alone worked first, and then with some effort, mmod works too

a bunch of the particles are broken though

no fire, no gun particles, etc

[hoary shore]

but it just works with prelude,portal rtx doesnt seems to work?

[subtle bison]

i havent tried it but the last time i tried running games with normal portal rtx, it was like normal portal

aka it couldnt run anything other than hl2 but that may have changed

prelude is just a newer source base so i stick to it primarily

here is the particle issue

you cant even ignore them as i cant click on the bugged particles

[hoary shore]

try to search on decal or particle textures

[subtle bison]

nah they arent there

i already tried

[hoary shore]

or just search the textures

[subtle bison]

the engine just sends empty data to remix

so its even worse than gmod lmao

[hoary shore]

hmmm

[hoary shore]

Lol, but prelude have a very old version of remix

[subtle bison]

oh yea i should've mentioned i add portal rt'x newer rtx remix runtime on top

best of both worlds

[hoary shore]

ur crazy lol

but at least u did it

[subtle bison]

i think this nova prospect map is actually one of the few with almost all map lights working

early chapters have almost half just completely missing

[hoary shore]

i think the worst one is highway 17

[subtle bison]

oh yeah now i can actually try water again

[hoary shore]

but idk

[subtle bison]

one sec

[hoary shore]

loooool

nope it doesnt work on portal rtx

[subtle bison]

doesnt even launch?

[hoary shore]

nope

[subtle bison]

you need both mmods in there, the base and then the hl2u version

and also hl2 update installed on steam

unless you're trying the base mod

[hoary shore]

yup

[subtle bison]

hmm lemme see

[subtle bison]

the window briefly opens for me but this engine error shows

same for you?

[hoary shore]

yup

black screen and crash

[subtle bison]

ok so yeah portal rtx is actually portal

[half viper]

Ignore untextured drawcalls

[hoary shore]

este proyecto me va dejar loco

[subtle bison]

remind me where that is again?

trying to look for it rn

[half viper]

Under sky parameters

[subtle bison]

any specific value to raise it to?

[half viper]

Uhh

Do 100

[subtle bison]

no effect

[hoary shore]

😦

[subtle bison]

ok well i fixed it for guns, i forgot about this menu

fire is still broken though

or anything using the same particles as firing a gun (turrets)

[hoary shore]

Having nova prospekt working its a miracle

[subtle bison]

i'd say gameplay wise its actually playable

just avoid large amounts of fire

kills fps

here is highway 17

the sun light gets culled easily depending on where you're looking though

gmod could fix this easily if it had a fixed bsp

you could just copy these maps to gmod actually lol

[lament quartz]

White water

[hoary shore]

Mmmm

[glossy mauve]

me when i skip vvis

legit that's how i've avoided culling issues

[subtle bison]

rip fps x2

[glossy mauve]

just render maps without areaportals lmao

[glossy mauve]

real time pathtracing and worried about vvis X3

ksksks jj

[subtle bison]

honestly with how flat this looks, if you look far away enough you would mistake it for rasterizied hl2

anyway i sleep

i am dead

[glossy mauve]

i legit tought it was for a sec lmao

gnn

[lament quartz]

Goodnight thank you for your help n stuff today

Same for you @glossy mauve

[glossy mauve]

<3

[hoary shore]

Goodnight guys @glossy mauve @subtle bison @lament quartz

[lament quartz]

Night

[meager oar]

got bored https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDEndtXk-2I

but dang look at those multi colored shadows

[glossy mauve]

sheesh

[hoary shore]

whats the command to fix the npcs guns

[glossy mauve]

isn't there an option on the spawnmenu? 🤔

i want a crt monitor sb

[subtle bison]

you have a local ewaste center?

[glossy mauve]

i need something small, sadly they don't have something like it around here

[subtle bison]

where are you if you dont mind me asking?

[winter radish]

I smell horror potential here

[glossy mauve]

le sa

[glossy mauve]

woops forgot i had the interloper soundtrack on the background

[subtle bison]

wha

[glossy mauve]

south america

[subtle bison]

ah

i was messing with rtx remix on a crt for a full month, i think i posted a photo here somewher

[glossy mauve]

that's awesome

i got to borrow my friends tv for a day

it was awesome

[subtle bison]

#1103495588374401115 message
#1103495588374401115 message
#1103495588374401115 message

best part is that a CRT doesnt have a native res, so gmod/hl2 rtx at 1024x768 with DLAA looked fucking crisp as hell irl

[glossy mauve]

yup

it's so awesome

[subtle bison]

i kinda miss it for remix lmfao

[glossy mauve]

i'll legit play trough hl2 rtx with one

[subtle bison]

the image quality is technically better than my LCD

[glossy mauve]

i love the idea that phospors are better for ray tracing since they're electron beams being shot at the screen

the whole process ray traced

[winter radish]

Raytraced retro games on CRT >

[subtle bison]

lmfao it comes full circle at that point

no wonder its peak

if only i could get one of those few 1080i sony CRTs that weigh 400lbs

[glossy mauve]

sheesh

[subtle bison]

with native HDMI

god that with remix would make my pants come off

[glossy mauve]

i just love how crts take away almost completely the downsides of upscaling

[subtle bison]

yep

i gotta try official hl2 rtx on the CRT when it comes out

[glossy mauve]

yess

[winter radish]

Ah interlacing, I still use it in Resident Evil

[subtle bison]

its the only way im gonna have a playable time with decent fps anyway

my poor 2080

[glossy mauve]

mind if i asked how many fps you get on gmod rtx??

[subtle bison]

on a LCD?

[glossy mauve]

your default setup

[subtle bison]

yea, at 1600x900 with DLSS perf and preset E (to minimize ghosting), depending on the map, 20-53fps 🥹

[glossy mauve]

shuckles

[subtle bison]

flatgrass runs in the 50s pretty much the entire time

[winter radish]

Yikes I need to release those optimizations

[glossy mauve]

yeah i almost all of the time need to use lossless to make it playable

then you look at the devs playing in crisp 4k at 60 🥲

[subtle bison]

its definitely BVH CPU load on heavier maps, i went from a shitty laptop cpu to a 7950X3D and some maps got a huge fps lift

regardless of how bad remix runs on my gpu i still cant find a good reason to get a new one

all the cheaper stuff is about as fast other than RT perf

[glossy mauve]

fair

honestly with how good FG is getting imma just keep running with mine too

[subtle bison]

what do you have?

40 series?

[glossy mauve]

3070 laptop

basically a 2080 desktop lmao

[peak rover]

they prob have like rtx 4090 or a sneak peak of the 5090 bruh

[glossy mauve]

eyup

[peak rover]

i got losses and it feels odd on gmod

[glossy mauve]

are you using 4x?

[peak rover]

im bout to

[glossy mauve]

yeah the input lag is pretty nasty on higher levels

[subtle bison]

the issue is that lossless scaling needs a lot of gpu headroom and a high base fps to work as good as it can. its awesome for games that arent rtx remix lmao

also i recompiled one of portal 2's maps with LDR support

this game heavily relies on areaportals and they dont work correctly after recompiling so there are a lot of leaks

i tried decompiling without them too but no avail

[peak rover]

yeah i realized so you need like a rtx 4090 for losses scaling to work good on rtx games esspacily gmod

i have desktop rtx 3070 and if i put it down below ultra perfomance i can feel the delay

[subtle bison]

yeah at that point i'd rather leave it on performance and just cope with the low fps without lossless

motion blur helps a bit

[subtle bison]

im gonna PBR-ify some of these glass materials

if i can fill up some of the map leaks i can try to get some DLAA screenshots

[glossy mauve]

people keep wondering how i play at 30fps, just enable motionblur lol

[subtle bison]

yea its really not an issue if you manage your expectations

especially in a sandbox game

[glossy mauve]

yup

[subtle bison]

how out of touch am i

[glossy mauve]

btw could ya publish or pack those portal 2 levels? i'd love to try messing with their textures

[subtle bison]

did this just come out

[glossy mauve]

lmao i also didn't realize until my toolkit stopped working

[subtle bison]

sure, but you should be able to do the same on your end if you've decompiled a map before, i vaguely remember that you did?

or was that someone else

[glossy mauve]

i meann yeahh butt

could you zip bsp 👉 👈

[subtle bison]

anyway for whatever reason, portal 2 is one of the very few post-alien swarm branch source games that allows you to compile LDR maps, how lucky are we

[subtle bison]

yea no biggie

they're not that big

[glossy mauve]

shank you

do l4d2 maps not compile ldr?

[subtle bison]

not with their hammer branch

according to valve wiki

[glossy mauve]

damn

i'll give it a shot

[subtle bison]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/HDR

[glossy mauve]

there's a few of those maps on the gmod workshop so

yeah sad

i'd be really excited for l4d rtx

[subtle bison]

only way i see that is an offical release, a majorly patched engine, or someone with leaked source code, and rebasing the alien swarm code on top of l4d2

[glossy mauve]

thankfully we have garry's mod and addons, so it's a mildly achievable dream

hm

[subtle bison]

aint no way

but also, way

[glossy mauve]

honestly im gonna make that a side project

[glossy mauve]

huh??

[subtle bison]

oh yeah my drivers are from march

wow why are my decompiled maps over 60% smaller than the originals?

i compiled without VIS

but that cant be the whole filesize right???

just the 1st 2 intro maps btw

im trying to find better ones to mess with

[glossy mauve]

i guess vis takes it's toll on map size?

[subtle bison]

yea the maps were very quick to compile

i would think rad would still take forever though

but it was like 3 seconds for both maps lmfao

[glossy mauve]

ldr fast?

[subtle bison]

that or the sheer speed of a 32 thread cpu lmao

[glossy mauve]

holay

hammer go brrr

[subtle bison]

most map lights were working too so yeah i guess vis is slow as hell

[glossy mauve]

mhm

[subtle bison]

huh???

guess you can do all the tagging in the toolkit now

sweet

[glossy mauve]

oh yeah

the new auto texture button is a time saver

thank the remix gods 🙏

[subtle bison]

the what now

[glossy mauve]

this

basically auto assigns all the pbr textures to their slots

[subtle bison]

wtf

[glossy mauve]

yup

[winter radish]

How to be evil using this: remaster the whole thing, post screenshots claiming Portal 2 RTX is in the works knowing that it's not

Give them hope and take it away

[jade edge]

GMOD 9.0, holy...

[glossy mauve]

dosen't that show up to everyone?

[subtle bison]

i think you have an addon that shows that lol

[glossy mauve]

weird

isn't it a startup command?

like dev or something

[subtle bison]

no that gmod 9 watermark was actually part of gmod 9

10 and later got rid of it

[glossy mauve]

huh

weird

i guess my files are that cursed lmao

[subtle bison]

pbr-ified glass got my fps down to 12

why

[glossy mauve]

(side) project L4D2 remixed is a go

[peak rover]

weird didnt work for me also which one is the mods folder?

[peak rover]

ok thx

[hoary shore]

xenthio already find something about the fire issue?

[lament quartz]

Just like my game sadly, the area portals also reset every hash that isn't a gun too

[winter radish]

It's been awhile since I've installed Gmod RTX, is the instructions the same? or has anything changed since I've last done it

[half viper]

https://github.com/Joshua-Ashton/VPhysics-Jolt/releases/tag/0.20

[lapis delta]

wait WHAT

[peak rover]

i dont under stand what is that

[peak rover]

imo its not even worth it bc of the lag and dlss you have to go through for it to be smooth

wait till it gets more optimized or get like a rtx 4090

😭

[winter radish]

I'm fine with 60fps, my monitor is capped to it anyway

[peak rover]

whats your gpu

[peak rover]

fps isnt the promblem its the quality the game looks like a vhs tape but you can still go ahead by all means its just if you want the picture quailty you see on youtube you need kind of a beast

[winter radish]

RX 7600, with FSR ultra performance it'll hit 60fps

[peak rover]

you sure its gonna work without a ray tracing gpu

[winter radish]

I'll take some screenshots to share the quality

[winter radish]

It has raytracing, lol

[peak rover]

what?

i never knew

amd

gpus

had ray tracing cores

wth

[winter radish]

They got it back in 2020

[peak rover]

ok want me to send a tut

[winter radish]

Is it the one already on YouTube?

[peak rover]

https://youtu.be/JeMrlemVSl8

this one

[winter radish]

Yeah, I've seen that one

[peak rover]

ok

gl and i pray it works for you because i made a small mistake that took me like 1 hour to fix

the rtx is kinda cool

most blood mods dont work hto

tho

[winter radish]

Yeah, Gmod seems to require more steps than most

[peak rover]

and made sure to dupe your gmod folder

[winter radish]

I actually don't care too much about having regular Gmod saved, so I just the same folder

[subtle bison]

wow joshie finally returned from this

i was wondering when he would

game seems to run

definitely working

can do a lot more complicated physics stuff without my game exploding

[glossy mauve]

holy cow

with rtx?

[subtle bison]

yea, its just a physics engine replacment so there isnt any reason why it wouldnt work

[glossy mauve]

i would expect at least a few crashes X3

but that's awesome

[subtle bison]

nah its fine

[glossy mauve]

i'd give it a try but my gmod is already haunted enough

[subtle bison]

im using your bin folder and its working fine lol

[glossy mauve]

hehehe

we shall see

imma start my shenanigans with l4d addons

[hoary shore]

worked good for me too

btw what about the fire,theres a fix already or not?

[glossy mauve]

afaik download my bins lmao

/jj

[hoary shore]

send it hahahaha

[subtle bison]

nah the fix is those 3 addons

his bin dont fix map fire issues

[hoary shore]

so wtf does

[subtle bison]

xenthios rtx fixes is supposed to fix all particles but it seems extremely inconsistent for all users

i might do a deepdive on it and maybe fix it myself?

im not a lua expert but i can certainly try

[hoary shore]

if you want to

[subtle bison]

i do but lua and engine debugging isnt exactly my strongsuit

[hoary shore]

its ok just do what u can

[lament quartz]

after watching that nvidia broadcast

[subtle bison]

i swear i did not do a damn thing

i unsubscribed from rtx remix fixes, extracted the addon, placed it into my august gmod build addons folder to debug

got in the broken spot and low and behold

💀

looking at the context menu it looks like an older version though?

that or maybe gmod mounts a manually installed addon differently

yeah that seems to fix it on the august build

it doesnt work on the march one but at this point i dont care lol

[subtle bison]

ok so apparently steamdb has manifests as old as 11 years ago

the 1st gmod 13 build
Protocol version 24
Exe version 1.6.20.0 (garrysmod)
Exe build: 14:37:55 May 20 2013 (5308) (4000)

still works too

it honestly doesnt look too different

some of my addons downloaded but most fail because of the out of date lua

[scenic jungle]

for some reason rtx mods i make dont work

[scenic jungle]

and my fps has deteriorated

[peak rover]

did it work

how is everything running gngy

[glossy mauve]

how much?

[meager oar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkZ3rqcZUs&t=1010s cant wait to use it in gmod rtx 😍

question is, whos gonna remaster CSS textures on that kind of level 😭

[quiet scroll]

Yeah, the CSS textures are gunna stick out like a sore thumb on maps

[hoary shore]

so basically is necesary an ol version of gmo

[subtle bison]

no

just extracting the rtx remix fixes addon, unsubscribing from it in the workshop, and then manually re-adding it fixes fire

i have no clue why

[hoary shore]

installing manually the plugin_

?

[subtle bison]

since the addon is freely available on the workshop, there should be no issue for me uploading it here

[hoary shore]

is still necesary niknaks?

[subtle bison]

yes

[hoary shore]

ok

[subtle bison]

broken fire workaround:
download the extracted version of [rtx remix fixes](#1116089843479498782 message) , unsubscribe from the addon on the garry's mod workshop, extract the folder like in the screenshot, then restart your game

[hoary shore]

ok

im gonna try

finally

yeah it works

[meager oar]

this is gonn fix the fire?

[hoary shore]

yes

[subtle bison]

it did for me

[meager oar]

imma try

[hoary shore]

for me too

[subtle bison]

i guess the gma has mounting issues

there is yalls inconsistencies folks

no idea why

[hoary shore]

btw,cr you know how to mount hl2 update maps into gmod?

[subtle bison]

uhh, 2 ways, put them directly in the gmod maps folder, or replace your hl2 ones

they should work independently of hl2 update

[hoary shore]

and theres is a fix for grass or its just a engine issue too?

[subtle bison]

wdym

the weird blending issues on highway 17?

[hoary shore]

no,when you move the grass goes crazy

[subtle bison]

hu

maybe get a clip

[subtle bison]

hu i dont have this

[meager oar]

set them as decal or particle textures?

[subtle bison]

are the grass decals marked as decals in the toolkit?

[hoary shore]

yup

[subtle bison]

@modern quest do you mind pinning this message?
#1116089843479498782 message

[subtle bison]

hmm lemme see if i have the same issue

[hoary shore]

oh ok i fixed it

idk how but it fixed it self lol

[subtle bison]

remix moment

[hoary shore]

im gonna try search more issues,if there are not more issues i do a complete walkthrough with hl2 gmod

[subtle bison]

the coast will have some buggy/broken textures as it blends a lot together for the terrain

there is terrain baking in remix but i find it often buggy and it kills performance

those might require actual map edits

[hoary shore]

yeah

[meager oar]

wrkssss

[subtle bison]

😎

[hoary shore]

but at least is a big progress

but i dont have installed rtx remix 😦

[subtle bison]

hu

[hoary shore]

the only thing that upsets me is 3dskyboxes

for everything else i think its very good

[subtle bison]

they should work

r_3dsky 1

at least with portal rtx's remix runtime

[meager oar]

it also fixes the flickering of water??

gwater

[subtle bison]

😎

[modern quest]

@subtle bison combine the text into the same message as the image

[subtle bison]

oh its not

oops

[hoary shore]

idk how to instal portal runtime,i use the latest one,idk if that ones work

[subtle bison]

delete your existing d3d9.dll and .trex folder inside GarrysMod/bin and copy the d3d9.dll and .trex folder from Portal with RTX/bin to GarrysMod/bin

also try using my rtx.conf for it

maybe back up yours first if you have issues

[hoary shore]

òk

[meager oar]

aw mann this is not fixed though

some cars become blurry in high speeds

[subtle bison]

i assume this is a natural limitation of screenspace motionblur and denoising

[meager oar]

but for some reason it doesnt happen on m3 gtr and a few other cars

[subtle bison]

is this scars?

[meager oar]

simphy

[subtle bison]

if its the addon itself i got no idea

[meager oar]

thin film glass

[hoary shore]

it just give me a black screen

[subtle bison]

hu

the portal rtx runtime does?

[hoary shore]

yup,when i start my backup its normal

[subtle bison]

you did a clean install of it right? deleted the old .trex and d3d9 before installing the portal one?

[hoary shore]

yup,im gonna try it again

now it crashes when i start a map

[subtle bison]

you probably need the 4 stdshader files from portal rtx

if not already

[hoary shore]

ahhh ok

[hoary shore]

yeah yeah, i had the preludes one

[subtle bison]

they should be the same

if it still crashes i got no idea

[hoary shore]

now it works

but 3dskyboxes are pretty broken

[subtle bison]

hu they should at least be fullbright

are they pathtraced now?

[hoary shore]

ìdk

the citadel looks all black lol

[subtle bison]

im glad particles work but sometimes i think there is just too many lmao

my fps is gone

[hoary shore]

now is full bright

[subtle bison]

yea thats how it usually looks

maybe hl2 rtx will also fix 3d skyboxes

[hoary shore]

probably

somethimes when the map changes the game crashes

[winter radish]

Haven't done it yet

[glossy mauve]

y'all got 3d skyboxes?

[meager oar]

yus but its buggy so i disable it

[subtle bison]

ive been having that issue since day 1, except instead of crashing its just frozen on a load screen

usually a restart fixes it

[half viper]

Uhh reproject skybox

Under Sky parameters

[woeful phoenix]

3D Skyboxes works fine

they didn't put in my dynamic skybox scale calculator

so just set the scale to your map's skybox scale

it's usually 16

In almost all of HL2 it is a fixed 16

[half viper]

Btw

I noticed that some maps work perfectly with it
And some other maps have a lagging behind camera movements effect

[woeful phoenix]

that USUALLY means the scale is bad

you've tried messing with the scale numbers?

[half viper]

Kinda, not a big difference tbh
But didn't mess with it enough so i can't really judge

There was an automatic scale detector right?

[woeful phoenix]

yeah that is not in the live version

In the live version you have the fixed scale only so you may have to fudge with the numbers there

[half viper]

Yea read that in the PR

I still wonder why they removed it

[willow fog]

No it's just that remix is really dogshit with particles.

From visuals to performance

[jade edge]

looks cool to me, adds speed effect

[meager oar]

Nah it's not what u think it is, the image can be deceiving but in game its a absolute mess with car constantly blurring and unblurring all over the place.

[peak rover]

Bro cmon

[scenic jungle]

By like 40 fps down

[peak rover]

What’s yall gpu and cpu for gmod rtx

[quaint zodiac]

How i can fix that?

[lament quartz]

Mat_forcedynamic 1 (idk if it's the right error I can't read it on a tts but can see the white)

[quaint zodiac]

There about too many surfaces with same material

[quaint zodiac]

Ty, i will try it

[lament quartz]

Yeah Mat_forcedynamic 1

[glossy mauve]

i suck at character texturing lmao

[hoary shore]

wheres that

[peak rover]

that looks sick

[glossy mauve]

i fixed it

[keen rivet]

fuck that explains why it works for me

[livid rapids]

I'd recommend using something like github desktop for cloning the remix fixes repo, that way it updates when you open the app instead of redownloading it on every update

At least that's what I used

[meager oar]

vfire still seems to be invisible for me

i think rtx remix fixes addon also fixes that right?

[meager oar]

hmm no colored shadow

[glossy mauve]

sadness

[meager oar]

theres atleast intensity of shadows

:(((((

[meager oar]

making sum mercury

[quaint zodiac]

Until I approach the light source, it will not shine. Can this be fixed somehow?

[half viper]

Rtx fixes mod

In the workshop

In addition to niknaks mod i think it was called

[quaint zodiac]

Oh, ty!

[lapis delta]

guys, does it look good?

[wanton scarab]

I approve

[willow fog]

Looks like a handguard to me

[lapis delta]

oh, yea

[glossy mauve]

i don't understand subsurface scaterring on remix, but ay it looks kinda cool

[peak rover]

typp

yupp*